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There is a ton to talk about,

including, did we just land a very big military plane

at Bagram? Remember where Bagram is? Yeah, that's in Afghanistan. That's the base where we left everything for the Taliban.
And that's the base the Taliban was going to give to China. What's happening? We just landed a C-17 there, and we don't know much about it, but something is happening.
And I have a feeling it has everything to do with China. We'll talk about that.
Also, there's a big, huge city being considered now here in Texas, a new Muslim city. What does that mean? What exactly does that mean? Ken Paxton is going to be joining us to talk about that on what he can, because there's lawsuits that he's going to be having to, you know, be involved in.
But we're going to talk to him about that. Also, more on the tariffs and where we're headed.
So much to talk about.

We'll begin here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Rough Greens.
This weekend, I'm going to have a hard time talking about this. This weekend, we're putting Uno down.
And if you have a dog, you know what that feels like.

And I have to say, can we just stop the music here for a second? This would be less of a commercial and more of just a kind of personal note here. I feel horrible.
I feel absolutely horrible every time. This is the third dog we've had to put down.
And it's honestly, it's like, Lord, can't you just let them die? Please take them. You know, Tanya has a sweet aunt who's, oh gosh, almost a hundred now.
And she gets up every day. She still very very a ton she's like god why why am

i still here um she's got all of her faculties and everything else but she's like i'm done

i'm done living take me why am i still here uh and i i kind of feel this way with uh

Thank you. I kind of feel this way with.
Our dogs are. They're protection animals.
So we trust them. We we.
Our dogs are different than just the dog that you have is member of a family. These dogs are members of the family.
But they also, you know, Uno at one point when we were traveling a lot was, you know, sniffing for bombs in audiences before they would, you know, before the audience would come in. I mean, they do different.
And now I kind of feel like, who am I to say? And you, you, you get to this place with your dog to where you see them suffering.

And I don't want him to suffer.

You know, I walk into a room now and he just,

he does what he used to do sometimes when he was younger,

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anybody else would walk in the room,

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I'd walk in the room and once in a while he would just,

his eyes would just dart up to me like, what? What do you want now? I'm sleeping. And it was always funny.
Now he's doing that with everybody. Because he just, it hurts too much to get up.
And I don't know. Has anybody else had to deal with this? You wonder, is now the time? I don't want to wait too long.
I don't want to take him too early. It's horrible.
It's horrible. So kids are all coming home on Saturday, and we're putting him down on Saturday.
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Hello, Stu. How are you? I was doing great.
Sorry, i know you are the same way oh i'm just a wreck it's the worst if you don't have dogs you don't have any idea yeah i mean you remember president miles oh yeah um we got to that point with him i mean he couldn't even like walk it was really he was really at the end of it and we waited too long with ella because she was like that yeah i i know i'm we've talked about this off the air like i'm like i'm a wait wait wait wait wait guy uh and uh you know got to the point where basically my wife was like we have to do something and uh we called the uh you know the place that was going to yeah to do to assist with this process and uh he they're supposed to come at like 8 a.m literally he died at like three in the morning oh that would be such a blessing it's such a blessing although one of our best memories with uno is when not uno uh victor was when we were all together as a family you know and we just laid a blanket out on the floor and yep i i man i this is a tough week for you i'm sorry that's there's there are things that are worse but it feels like there's nothing i know i know it's it's so weird and then you think gosh you're gonna i mean you do you feel that way about your own loved one when they get old you know i feel that way about some of my teenage children at times can i put them down now right i mean it would be an end of the pain mine not theirs how many trimesters is too many when you get into the triple digits it starts to feel bad yeah it feels a wrong. It feels a little wrong.
But, you know, then you look at it and you're like, how do you make that decision with other people? Did you see what's happening in Canada? Exactly what we predicted. They're loosening the reins on made you know medical assisted um medical assisted i don't remember but it's medical suicide yeah you know with doctors euthanasia yeah and uh it's i mean this is a really bad line to cross when you feel bad about with your dog.
You know, I guess you could play it two ways because it does. It plays on you both ways when you look at your dog and you're like, I don't want to put him down too early, but I don't want him in pain.
You start to feel like, oh, man, you know, and, you know, Greta, she was in so much pain. You hate to see her in pain in pain you're gonna put your dog down because of that but your your aunt Greta is not a dog you know it's just is it just me I mean where you where that starts to play in your head on how do you feel about this with humans if you're this concerned about your dog I kind of go it's interesting you bring it up that way i kind of go the opposite way of that like i oh no no no i i always end there okay but i but it plays on me both ways yeah you know what i mean yeah i i tend to think you know i think about life you know someone brought up it was there's some anniversary of terry schivo remember that of course you remember the Terry Schiavo case to the audience and making sure that they do.
It's been, it's been about 25 years, right? Cause it was 2000. If I, if I remember right.
My daughter learned about it in school and she said, dad, have you ever heard of Terry Schiavo? And I was like, excuse me, what? Very involved in that case. If for those who were not around at that time, it was a long time ago now.
Yeah. It was a, we were deeply involved in that case and we know the family and terry and everything else we were great people and we were very involved in that case and she said this is just a horrible case i just don't know what to think about it and i said well allow me to illuminate her mom said what you know you're going to the right person to ask because your father was very involved.

And she's like, what? Yeah. But I mean, that's, you know, that case sort of helped form my viewpoint on these types of issues.
And me, too. You know, I just I you know, God makes a lot of decisions and I don't want to necessarily get in the way of them.
um I tend to very much lean in all of these cases towards, you know,

like letting it go until it's absurd.

I mean, again, I don't want, you don't want someone to be in utter pain, obviously.

But, you know, you start saying terms like quality of life,

it makes me really uncomfortable.

No.

Because of that, I mean, largely because of that case that we dealt with 20 years ago life is life life is life life is life it's not your decision necessarily to make quality of life decisions i mean there are some cases where things are hopeless and and you know maybe there's a different choice to be made but i i don't even like i like waiting as long as possible if you have to be put in those positions and it's it a difficult thing for every family when it comes to a pet or, God forbid, a loved one. And, you know, gosh, you all know, everyone knows you're going to go through this so many times.
It's really depressing when you stop and think about it because it's the worst moment of your life. And you're going to repeat it a lot of times, unfortunately, throughout your life.
2016, Canada introduced medical assistance in dying, made. It allowed somebody to be eligible for medical assistance.
If they were terminally ill, they could be assisted by medicine. By 2021, the need to be terminally ill has been removed now and uh they are now they just updated it to made by 2027 can be used by people suffering from mental illness and no physical illness oh my god i mean quite obviously one of the big problems with mental illness is you are unable to process the information to make proper decisions uh and let's let's not forget uh right now we say trump derangement syndrome is a mental illness, and I believe that.
And the other side says you're voting for Donald Trump. You're mentally ill.
Yeah. Let's not go down the mental illness thing.
That's a very bad thing. No.
And especially for people who are massively depressed, like obviously the right decision is not to kill yourself in that situation however the problem the reason why this the situation is a problem is because you're not able to process that information properly right you are you're making you you see things in a way that they aren't and so to give that person the legal right i mean obviously they already sort of have the right they can do it anyway. But the legal right to encourage it, to help it along is a psychotic instinct by human beings.
It's psychotic. Did you hear about the parents that were with their child who was wildly depressed and up in Canada? And they went to lunch down in the cafeteria.
The doctors came in, talked to their child into MAID, had them sign MAID. So now it couldn't be reversed.
And the parents come back from lunch and they're like, we're going to administer MAID. I'm sorry, what? and the medical profession could talk him into it and you know because they didn't talk him into they just gave advice they just they just gave their professional opinion now in canada two medical professionals have to agree oh two wow the standard took it Even Germany had three.
had three Germany had three Canada just thought you should know that wow it's crazy this is why abortion stuff everything is so important yeah life life life life life life life and uh scary I'm sorry we I didn't even plan on talking about any of this that's tough it started with a rough greens commercial and anyway uh gosh i hope our next commercial is something positive patriot mobile's coming up we'll do that you probably shouldn't take that to anything about death right yeah i don't well let's try it okay you ever think about switching your cell phone company? Then stop yourself from going any further than just thinking about it. You just you don't.
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It's sort of a mini city.

And the governor of Texas has recently used words like Sharia law and that the organizers might be trying to, quote, circumvent the law.

The Texas Rangers have now been directed to investigate what the heck is going on.

It's called Epic.

And there is a slick video produced by Epic. is the east plano islamic center epic uh here's the video and now we embark on a new chapter of vision of harmony where homes and hearts unite 402 acres of beautiful scenery.
Grassy. Welcome to the future of living.
Welcome to Epic City. So kind of the blueprint of a planned community heart of josephine texas it is about 20 miles and 20 minutes from epic okay uh yeah you know look you want to build you want to build a christian town i don't i don't really care as long as the concept.
Let me put it this way. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, otherwise known as the Mormons.
I am not for a Mormon government in Utah. I'm not for a Mormon government in Salt Lake City.
I'm for an American government. OK, you want to bring your church and your people together.
That's fine. That's fine.
But you don't at any time say, you know what? But our church takes care of these things. So we're going to have our own little court.
Now, I'm not saying that that is going to happen there. That's what's being bantied around, that it'll'll have sharia courts and everything else not sure that's for the you know texas to figure out but you know we have a court of israel that if there's let's say there's abuse in a family then the court of israel comes in our church comes in and they deal with the spiritual side after we have alerted police okay we let the police take care of the criminal stuff the church takes care of the heart stuff that's okay but once you start crossing the lines of the church or here possibly an islamic uh center or a mosque now starting to say, yeah, but we have our own laws.

That's an absolute no go zone in America.

No go zones should mean the exact opposite than what they do in Europe.

You want to put people together? That's fine.

But this is America, period.

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How global elites betrayed America on trade and immigration tonight, you don't want to miss it. Do you remember the do you remember the show we did years ago, Stu, when I had the two imams and we were talking about Sharia law because there was rumors that they wanted to do this right here in our area.
And there were rumors that they were going to do Sharia law. And I said, let's let's bring in.
Let's talk to them. Let's bring in the imams.
And I brought them in. And, you know, it was a very comfortable conversation.
And I wanted to make it very comfortable. For one, if they had anything to hide, maybe they would have a conversation about those things because they'd feel comfortable.
Otherwise, I don't have a problem with you. You don't want Sharia law.
I'm I'm totally cool. Well, one mom said, no, Sharia La'a, no, no, no.
And then the other mom, in a moment of ultimate comfortability, do you remember this, said, well, I mean, we all agree that your hand should be cut off if you're stealing. And I was like, wait a minute, what? And we just pursued that for a while.

And the other mom sitting there on the couch with him was like, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. And he just he went and, you know, kind of revealed.
And that kind of put a stop to that particular area in Texas and going down the Sharia law. Is this another one? I don't know.
but ken Paxton is going to be on with us to talk about that here in about half an hour from now. Now, when we come back, I want to talk to you about Bagram Air Force Base.
What is happening at Bagram? We're landing C-17s there? We don't own it. This is Glenn Beck.
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I'm probably going to talk about this tomorrow. Stephen Moore is going to be on with me in about an hour from now, and we're going to touch on this.
I just want you are you know if you pay attention to what's happening in the markets uh you'll see the uh you'll see the fed the treasuries are going up that's the opposite of what should be happening right now and that is because of something called basis trade uh and it's a very very big deal if it's not turned around. The hedge funds playing fast and loose, and now they got their foot caught in the door.
And it's almost a 2008 kind of thing if it doesn't get under control quickly. It's really not a good thing.
Not caused by the tariffs, but kind of pushed over the edge because of the tariffs, the unwinding of this thing that has been a problem for a long time. And I just want you to know we're aware of it and we're watching it for you.
And I'll have more on that tomorrow. I might be able to get to some of it later on in the program today.
Let me go to Jason Buttrill. He is our former Department of Defense Intelligence Analyst, and he is also our head writer and head of research here at the Glenn Beck Program.
And Jason, there is something that I did not expect to read and maybe ever.

A C-17 aircraft from ours took off in Doha on our military base and arrived at Bagram on Sunday. It was said to be carrying senior U.S.
intelligence officials, including the CIA deputy chief, military equipment, etc., etc. Now, there's rumors that the Taliban handed the base over to us, which I don't think that happened just because of the kindness of their hearts.
And I have a feeling this I don't know what kind of if this is true.

I don't know what kind of deal we had to make with the Taliban to get that base back,

because that base is strategic like nobody's business.

If you're going into any kind of war with with China.

Jason, can you fill us in on this? What's true? What's not? What do you read from this? Yeah, so none of this is is official. This news report came out because there's people on the ground that are watching flight trackers.
They saw this flight take off. They saw it land.
And then the rumors spread from from there, from, you know, the whole thing about, you know, the Taliban handing over Bagram to us is probably a complete and total pipe dream at the moment. I don't know where it goes.
Eventually it could. But of course, the Taliban denied it.
Like they can't be seen, you know, handing over facility in their like that's what sparked off Al Qaeda, you know, in Saudi Arabia having us us, you know, at their military base. They're not going to admit that.
Right. But I do see we have to look at the state of the world and kind of think about during the Cold War.
Can you imagine if during the Cold War, the media landscape was how it is now? So that I mean, who are these Contra people? Like like what are we dealing with or who are the sandinistas like this news would be everywhere non-stop and we're going to start seeing that with this trade war that's going on right now and by the way you're going to by the way i i think it's important for us to say i think it's official we are in a trade war china just retaliated again a second time what was it number this time 54

they added another 50 so they're up to 84 now and we're up to 104 104 so we're at a trade war and then europe as well europe just retaliated with 25 as well so this is not a good thing you You don't like trade wars.

Trade wars are not a good thing.

Stephen Moore, Art Laffer, have been advising the president. And Stephen's going to be on with us here in about about 45 minutes.
Oh, not confirmed yet. OK, he will.
We've been chatting this morning on text all morning since about 4 a.m., both of us wide awake going, what's happening in the world? But anyway, we are at a trade war. So why does that play a role in with Bagram? Well, we're going to start seeing activity not I mean, beyond tariffs.
Tariffs are the are the main lever. But you're going to see some clandestine activity and other moves from like our intelligence services, maybe even military movements in the middle of this, because right now between the United States and China is a very, you know, big and competitive world and issue between the both of them.
And I think this is squarely about China. I really think it does.
That's what was so scary about handing over Bagram to begin with, because that's a major part of their Silk Road initiative. So one of their major trade objectives is to get to be able to have a land route through places like Afghanistan.
So I think that there's a big issue that both us and the Taliban can agree on, if you can believe that. And that is the elimination of ISIS-K in Afghanistan.
That's their affiliate in Afghanistan. The Taliban doesn't like them.
I believe they've worked with them in the past, but now it's a completely different state of the game for them between the two groups. So I can see them making concessions to allow us to, let's say, operate some intelligence assets out of there or use it in some way.
I think we are of the uh of that negotiation right now with this

that's my opinion can you believe after all those years at war with them there's the possibility that we're going to need their help with china i mean that that's insane that's insane and none of this would have happened had we not just handed them the base that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

We paid how many billions

for that base?

Oh, gosh.

I mean, too many. Yeah, too many billions of dollars in that base.
And we just handed it to them, just handed it to them. And we left all our equipment there.
Now, there's a couple of other reasons that, you know, you can speculate on. Are we doing counterterrorism or intelligence operations in that area? Maybe not with just China or not against China, but also, you know, this is a central place to be for Russia and China, for the United States.
Make sure we have a foothold in that.

What do you think we would have to do you think we would have to offer the Taliban to get this? Well, I think that I don't think we'd be giving them anything, but I do think that we would, you know, you know, offer our services. I don't know what to call it, offer our services, but show that we both have the same enemy in ISIS-K.

And I don't call it offer our services, but show that we are we both have the same enemy in ISIS-K. And I don't think that we'd be sharing anything with them.
But I mean, if you look at our relationship with Afghanistan, while the Taliban pre-2001 was in place, we didn't have a major foothold in Afghanistan. We had intelligence operatives within the country clandestinely and outside the country.
That's how we managed the terror threat before. I think we're moving into a more aggressive phase where that is our stance in that area.
We have some intelligence assets in the country. We have some intelligence assets in places like Pakistan and other places.
Not a major military footprint. I don't think that's going to happen again.
I really don't. I don't think Bagram will ever be fully turned over to us again.
I don't think that's going to happen. But I could see some kind of accommodation to allow, let's say, and this is very dangerous, like a a la Benghazi, like a compound or something like that, that we do operate out of, like a handful of intelligence assets.
Extremely dangerous, but I can see them moving in that direction. And so what does that give us, Glenn? That lets us attack terrorists, which is what we want to do.
We don't want them to get larger groups within Afghanistan. That benefits the Taliban as well, but it also lets us keep an eye on who is using that air base also.
Are the Chinese there? Are the Russians there?

More importantly, are the Chinese there?

That's what I think is going on. What is the Chinese relationship with Afghanistan?

Because they've got to, I mean, Chinese need Afghanistan too.

Chinese absolutely need Afghanistan for Silk Road.

And I mean, look what they've done in places like Africa.

They move in and offer the world. We'll build this super highway.
We'll build up this infrastructure, this infrastructure, this infrastructure. Eventually, the way they structure those deals, Afghanistan becomes a slave to China because then they're on the hook for a trillion dollars in infrastructure payback.
That's how China exerts force. So that's what that's China's stake in this game.
And that's probably what they're maneuvering to do. We would want to stop them from doing that in this overall trade war, looking down the road a decade, two decades from now.
You know, everybody I've talked to, everyone has said to me, Glenn, in a trade war with China, if we get into a if this doesn't back off off we're both in real trouble uh china has got to have us and we really have to have china for our medicines and everything else and uh i said so which which which which which which which one of us wins in the end and it's like any war you don't know um whoever can stomach it the longest uh i guess is the answer your thoughts on what we're entering and how europe is now responding you know history teaches us so much and if you if you look at the world post-world war ii it was very similar to who was that that japanese geopolitics person or philosopher, I can't remember, where he said that this was the end of history. But he was talking about, I think, World War, was it talking about World War I or World War II, I can't remember.
But he said this is the end of the history because the world is so interconnected, we're not going to want to go to war again. Well, that's complete bullcrap.
You know, you look at, you know, books like The Clash of Civilizations that pointed out that, well, actually, people are just going to move into their own, you know, racial or race or race or identity. And that will be the new, you know, you know, spark for war going forward.
Sure. But this is but the solution to that, thinking that this is the end of history, was to fully interconnect all these countries, the entire world, so that if we go to war or, you know, whatever, we all suffer for it.
So we won't do it. So it's the end of history.
Right. Well, that system that we built made it to where we are dependent on all these other countries.
We're dependent on China for our, you know, our, our, all of our, what's it? 75%, I believe, of our medicines. 75%.
We depend on this country for all of these rare earth minerals. We're dependent everywhere.
That is the system they built. They never thought it would turn around and bite people, even though we saw in COVID that that was completely wrong.
We are in bad shape, and it's not sustainable. Hang on a second.
That is the scariest thing, because when you when you fully understand that, then you understand what the president is doing. And then you're looking at it going, geez, but that doesn't give us relief right away.
This this this is going to cause a lot of temporary pain. And i don't know what temporary even means it will be temporary but it's going to cause a lot of pain and i'm not sure that the american people even understand truly what's going on they think it's just about the economy it's not it's about changing everything yeah and people rightly point out that change doesn't happen overnight.
And that's exactly right. I mean, how many billions of dollars does it take for a company to set up a plant or manufacturing facility within the United States? It's billions of dollars.
How long does it take to build those? What, three to five years once they finally pull the trigger? We're only in the negotiation stage. I we're talking about a long far you know uh far off in the distance plan that we're just negotiating right it has to be done it's unsustainable and it's but we are seeing the beginnings and the pain now and it's only going to get worse if we don't do anything but we have to to understand the pain may be maybe a long time.
This 100 year plan longer than that now being turned overnight. And it's it's not going to it's going to cause some shocks along the way.
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We have the guy who's going to run against John Cornyn in Texas. Excited about that.
Ken Paxton going to be joining us in just a little while. We're going to talk about something that is called, what was it, Epic? a town here, right down the street here in Dallas, Texas,

that is going to be a new Islamic town. And the governor is investigating everything else.
We'll have more on that tonight on our Wednesday night. Kind of like Wally World.
It's a little different, but similar. Yeah.
Wally World, if they cut your hands off. I hope that's not it.
Hopefully that's it. Anyway.

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He was a big Obama guy, but also was a big guy warning of the Biden inflation. So he's not generally fair.
Yeah. Fairish.
I don't agree with all of his policy. I agree.
I agree. But he is concerned about something you brought up off the air this morning about this divergence of uh the stock prices which are going down the markets going down and interest rates going up one of the kind of like secondary justifications of this policy that i was hearing from some people on the right were like well what he's doing is he's trying to lower rates yeah right and you know i even said monday that's not what i don't think that's what he was intended but that is one of the benefits however that's not what's happening no the opposite is happening he points out long-term interest rates are gapping up even as the stock market moves sharply downwards this highly unusual pattern suggests generalized aversion to u.s assets in a global financial market we are being treated by global financial markets like a problematic emerging market like how you'd look at like one of these yeah there's something going on it's the the the economy's being upended in you know yeah rwanda and like so countries want to stay away from it he's seeing that type of thing here now he could be wrong, obviously, but that is concerning because of all of our debt and all the other things built up over, you know, stuff that Trump had nothing to do with going back years and years and years and years.
Again, I will bring you back to Trump's not an idiot. No, he's not surrounded by idiots.
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How can this unchecked immigration change entire communities?

How is Texas changing?

Well, one thing that is changing in Texas, possibly, is a new community, a very large Islamic community. And as I said, you know, last hour when we were talking about this, okay, you want to build an Islamic community? I don't have a problem with an Islamic community, as long as you also, you know, are digging the United States, you know, Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You know, I, you know, Mormons crossed the mountains and started their own community. But the first thing they did that first, I don't know, a few days that they were there, they had a parade in the middle of desert.
Nobody was there. Everybody was in the parade where the women were carrying the Constitution and the men were carrying the Bill of Rights or something like that.
And Brigham Young said, remember, don't take it out on the people. The principles of America are correct.
You're going to get that in this new Islamic community? I don't know. I don't know anything about it.
We're going to be doing a special on this tonight to get down to some of the facts. Ken Paxton and the governor have put a halt to construction and it's being investigated we're going to talk to him about that also he's uh announced that he's going to be running against john cornyn oh oh could this be the end of john cornyn please say it isn't so we'll talk to ken paxton here in just a second first here's the thing about buying or selling a home you absolutely don't know what you don't know at first you think it's mainly just boxing stuff up picking paint colors all sorts of things and uh turns out uh no no that's not all there is the timing of your closing date inspection issues that crop up what happens if all of a sudden the buyer the buyer wants you to replace the roof or the furnace or both? This is where a good real estate agent, a solid real estate agent makes all the difference in the world.
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Ken Paxton, welcome to the program, sir. How are you?

Doing great.

How are you?

I am.

I'm great.

I'm great. I'm very excited to talk to you about your your Senate candidacy.
Me too. Yeah.
But first, let me let me talk to you a little bit about what is happening here in the the Dallas Fort Worth areaIC. EPIC is an Islamic center and community.
And let me just play some of the video as we're talking about this. And now we embark on a new chapter of Vision of Harmony.
All right, so... Homes and hearts unite.
As a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints i mean you know they crossed the mountains and started their own community in salt lake but they don't have a mormon uh separate law you know what i mean it's all based on the constitution and the bill of rights and it's it's not going against everything that the country was done so i have no no problem you want to start any religious community not a problem is this that kind of community do we know enough about it yet so i don't so we're in the middle we just started investigations i don't know the answer i do agree we are a free country first amendment it's Amendment. And you can, you can, you can believe whatever you want to believe in this country and still be free.
On the other hand, you're right. I mean, we have laws in this country, and those laws matter, the Constitution matters.
And if you're not following the laws of our country, then we're going to have some controversy and some contention. So in the end, you have whatever religion you want and believe whatever you want, but you still have to follow our laws, our state laws and our federal laws and our constitution.
So the developments attorney says that any investigation is just racial profiling. I'm so sick of that stuff because I don't think that it is racial profiling.
I think we have reason to be concerned. Look what's happening over in Europe.
And we can't let that happen here in America, especially Texas. Well, yeah, countries are being taken over and the Sharia law is taken over whatever country they're in.
And that's certainly we can't let that happen here. I mean, the rule of law, our constitution, what our founders put together, it was so beautiful and wonderful, given us freedom for so long.
We're not going to sacrifice that for Sharia law. It's just not going to happen in Texas.
And so we're going to be very focused on that and make sure they're following our laws. And at the same time, as you said, we want to be cognizant that people have a right to have their own religion.
And we respect that. So where do you how do you possibly because everybody involved is going to say, well, of course, you're not going to have Sharia law.
Of course, this isn't going to be a no go zone. But that's what has been said now for a few decades over in Europe and that's exactly what they become how do you if you can't find you know a smoking gun with how to bring sharia law into texas you know you're not gonna find that pamphlet how are you going to be able what what could you possibly find that would be solid enough to say no well so it's what you say is different sometimes than what people actually do.
So we're going to be looking at what people are actually doing out there. What are the developers? How are they implementing this? Are they discriminating based on whether you're a part of a certain religion? Because that would create issues with fair housing laws.
And so we're just going to be looking at what is the actual practice? Not what are you saying? Not what is your promotional material, you know, lawed, although the promotional material may tell us something. So it's actually what is actually happening on the ground out there.
And that's our focus. What is the truth? So multiple state agencies are involved in this.
And are we talking about fines, injunctions, something bigger violations are found?

Yeah, so I can't issue fines, but I can certainly sue over it and get, if there's a reason, get an injunction to stop it.

If it's doing imminent harm, it's usually what you have to show.

You have to show imminent harm and that you win on the merits. Otherwise, you know, we would sue him over some type of consumer law violation.
Or if the governor had other violations through some of the agencies that he's directing, we could represent those agencies in lawsuits. So there's all kinds of different ways to address that, depending on what we find in our investigation.
So when you were under investigation here in Texas, your attorney that represented you in the impeachment hearing, which was all cleared, is now representing the developers. Does that cause a conflict of interest with you at all? Look, I certainly didn't know about that until recently.
And I would say, obviously, a little concerning that I wasn't made aware of that. And, you know, there definitely could be an argument that there's conflict because I'm still being represented by him, and he's representing clients that are investigating.
So yeah, a little conflict to me. Yeah.
Uh, all right. Let me, let me switch to Cornyn.
This makes Stu very, very happy. Uh, makes me happy too.
Uh, I think when I found out we were together, I gave you, we hugged it out. Um, yes, we did.
Yeah. Anybody, anybody who is staying against Cornyn.
I think I, I think I told you in person. Yeah, you did.
You did. But so we have Cornyn in.
Have you heard anything? Have you talked to the president about this? Is he going to stand against Cornyn and stand with you? Do you have any idea yet? So I don't know. I mean, obviously, what I have noticed about President Trump is typically he waits till later, closer to the election.
He likes to see how things are going, whether people are doing doing what they said they were going to do and whether they're performing. So I mean, I part of the reason I decided to get this over with, I think there was a big effort by John Thune and some of the swamp to get John an endorsement before I got in or somebody else got in.
And I wanted to make sure I was in the game before, you know, all these things got done in Washington. In my opinion, one of the frustrations I have is it feels like sometimes that Washington wants to decide, oh, well, Ken, you can't run because we haven't picked you.
And I'm like, I don't care if you pick me. What I care about the people of Texas, right? It feels like they think that they get to decide, well, we picked John.
So sorry, you can't run. Well, I'm just not into that decision making and never will be.
So they don't understand. It should be the voters of Texas that decide, not John Dune and a bunch of Republican senators that think they should run the world.
So for anybody who hasn't been paying attention for the last 400 years, what would be different between you and Cornyn? Oh, my gosh. You know, so far, I've had this discussion many times.
Everything. I mean, he and I, his focus is in D.C.
His focus is not on the people of Texas. My focus is on the people of Texas.
And that translates into him wanting to be happy and satisfied in D.C. So he fights to pass gun restrictions on Texans and all Americans.
And he worked with Joe Biden. And Joe Biden said, hey, great job.
President Trump on the other hand said, no, this is your rhino.

Don't, this is bad legislation. And so not only did John pass legislation that hurt,

hurt the rest of the country,

but he also enabled the ATF to then have angles to,

to try to expand their control over gun ownership.

And I had to go sue them twice. So it's things like that.

It seems like the, the, you know, amnesty that he suggested he's for. It's the fight he fought, you know, building a wall.
He fought Trump on that. He's been unsupportive and critical of Trump when he ran both times, calling him an albatross.
So fundamentally, John and I are very different and we believe very different. Our focus is on very different people and he's part of the establishment.
He was put there by the bushes and he doesn't look out for the interest of individual Texans. He's thinking people in Washington are his, are his, are his people.
Ken, part of the establishment in this particular case is I would say an understatement. And one of the benefits of being part of that establishment is you've got a lot of friends who have a lot of power, a lot of money.
They are going to come after you really, really. I mean, I can't even imagine.
They've already told me. No, they've already told me.
They told me that I should not run, that I was not picked, and that I should not run, and that they would spend, I was told, $120 million to make sure that they kept John Cornyn. And I said, Hey, can you tell me why John Cornyn is running? Just, just, I just want to know that.
And there was a quiet silence and there was like, well, you know, we told him not to run. He's already been in there four terms.
We told him not to run. And, uh, but he's, but he's our friend.
So we're going to support him and we're going to spend the money to beat you. And I said, so you're telling me, you don't even know why John Corn is running and you can't explain why he should be this.
And you do think he's already been there too long, but yet you're still going to support him. And the answer was, yes.
And we will spend a lot of money to make sure it's not you. $120 million that could go to defeating people on the left.
Yes. And look, I don't know what the real number is.
That could, $120 million in the primary. I don't think that's the real number.
That's been a lot. That's been a lot.
Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't.
Do you have the pockets to go against that? I am. Right now, I'm doing quite well.
I mean, part of this has to be separate with super super packs, but I am anticipating that I will be very competitive on the fundraising side. I already know I'm going to be competitive.
Now, will I have 120 million? I don't need 120 million, but you know, 20 to 40 million that's doable for me. Well, money can't, uh, money can't buy this.
Um, you know, it's, it's going to be whether – just getting your name out and making sure that people understand what John Cornyn has done. Who are your friends in the Senate that would be your pack? So I doubt, you know, those senators, most of them, they all kind of stick together.
Behind the scenes, there are several telling me they hope I win. The only one that I think that would, you know, openly support me is Tommy Tiberville, who said, I'll support you.
And I think he's obviously leaving to go run for governor. But he's a rare breed up there.
And that's fine. I don't need Washington to support me.
Ted Cruz won't do it? I think Ted, because I don't think he'll say anything. I don't think he'll endorse either way.
Yeah, he's got to work with whoever wins, I guess. Is that the game we're playing? That's the game we're playing.
Yeah, okay. Look, and I'm just happy if, you know, that's, that's a win for me.
If Ted just stays out of it, that's, that's the message, right? I mean, I know he endorsed Cornyn last time. If he doesn't endorse him this time, it's helpful.
Yeah. Well, and by the way, I'm a benefit to Ted because I'll be supportive instead of disruptive to what he wants to do, because I am a fan of Ted Cruz.
I think he's the kind of senator that Texas deserves and should have. And he's done a fantastic job.
And I've supported him ever since he ran the first time. Yes.
And John Cornyn, in contrast, is opposite. I mean, as I think I heard you say, he'd be fine in Vermont if we had him as a Republican.
We'd be happy to have him, but not in Texas. I want, as you, I think I heard you say he, he'd be fine in Vermont if we had him as a Republican,

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The Cornyn campaign response is Ken Paxton is a fraud.

So it's just going to be it's going to be an ugly thing here in Texas.

But nobody deserves it more than John Cornyn.

Ken, let me ask you about the what the district courts are doing

and trying to stop the president and all of his policies.

They've obviously been overturned now by the Supreme Court,

but they are going to have lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. What needs to be done? So first of all, let me just comment about me being a fraud.
It's so funny that this is a strategy. If you haven't done anything for 23 years and you don't have anything to talk about, which he doesn't, and all the things you've done that are highlighted, his big accomplishment being the gun restrictions.
I mean, he's going to have to spend his money to attack me and bring my numbers down because he's in serious trouble and he's way behind in the polls. So he will run a very negative, nasty campaign on it'll be personal because it's not, it can't be on the issues because he loses.
So as far as an H-Y injunction, look, we

see nasty campaign on it'll be personal because it's not it can't be on the issues because he loses so as far as nationwide injunctions look it we we sued joe biden 107 times we got a few nationwide injunctions they were very sparingly given out on issues like immigration when he tried to stop deporting he said we're not going to deport anybody well we sued him i said you can't do that federal law requires this and it doesn't just require require it for Texas, because if we only get an injunction for Texas, well, then they just sent them through New Mexico and California and end up in Texas anyway. So in some cases, if you can show that you have standing, what the injury will be, and then it's an injury to the whole nation, there is some, I think, benefit to being able to stop an illegal action.
However, these liberal judges have gone crazy and they give it for everything. You don't even have to have a standing, which means that you have to show that you're affected by it.
And what business is a federal judge having stopping what President Trump is doing as he's trying to cut the size of government or he's trying to send criminals back to Venezuela? So it's gotten out of control. And, you know, I just hope that the reaction isn't so overwhelming that we can't stop Joe Biden next time.
Right. We have no way to that Congress makes it so restrictive that then Joe Biden can do whatever he wants and no judge can stop, you know, completely unconstitutional.
Actually, there's no check. But I agree right now.
I mean, they've granted, I think it's a ridiculous number of injunctions, nationwide injunctions. And so I understand and I agree something has to be done because the president has to be able to do his job and the courts can't just micromanage everything that he does about their job.
Supreme Court can if it's unconstitutional, but the federal judges can't stop what the President of the United States is doing at every step of the way.

It's got to go to the Supreme Court, in my opinion.

Ken, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

God bless.

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And that is what's happening right now on something that is happening with the markets. As we're trying to sell our treasuries, our debt, with everything that was going on this week, the treasury, the yield or the interest rate should have gone way down.
And instead, it's going up. So in other words, we have to pay more money to get people to buy our bonds.
But because the stock market has been so crazy, that should have gone way down because everybody's rushing into U.S. Treasuries.
Well, that's not happening. And people are wondering, why isn't that happening? What's really going on here? and it's what's called a basis trade panic that is going on.
And I'm going to try to explain this as well as I can. I want to make you aware of it.
We'll talk about it in depth in the next few days, but I want to make you aware of it because it could become a very big problem. Imagine that you're at a lemonade stand and you notice that lemons cost a dollar each, but across the street, somebody is selling lemonade made from those lemons for $1.50.
You're like, I can make 50 cents. Maybe I can make 47 with the sugar and the water, but I'm going to buy lemons cheap, make lemonade and sell it for a profit.
Here's the catch. You don't have enough cash to buy tons and tons of lemons.
So you borrow money from a friend promising, look, I'm going to make I'm going to make 47 cents, you know, for every lemonade that I sell. And I'm going to be able to make more than one glass of lemonade with a lemon.
So we're going to make tons of money. Okay.
And you borrow the money

and say, look, I'm going to pay you back later. Um, so I can buy these lemons today and then sell the lemons and make just a few cents on every, every glass of lemonade.
That's called a basis trade. That's what hedge funds do in the financial world.
They're not dealing with lemons. They're betting on a tiny price difference between a couple of things um u.s treasury bonds super safe ious from the government that's what a treasury bond is we need to borrow money from you so we're going to give you uh an iou a bond we're going to give you an iou and we're going to pay you interest.
But because nobody really wants their money in that, because it's long term and you're going to sit there and you're going to make, you know, a couple of interest points on it. Market usually is better.
Nobody buys them unless the market becomes very, very unstable. Then all of that money gets out of risky things and runs into treasury bonds.
OK. That's what should have been happening this week.
The difference here when you have these IOUs from the government, then these hedge funds, they take futures contracts and agreement to buy those IOUs later at a set price. The difference is usually really, really thin, but that's what these hedge funds do.
They play the market. And usually it's like pennies.
So they borrow tons of money, sometimes 20, 50, or even 100 times of what they actually have. And they make big, big gains off of those small, tiny little gaps between what they bought and what they're going to sell it for in the future.
It's like borrowing $100 to make a dollar of profit over and over and over and over again. It's all good unless something goes wrong.
Anybody think about 2008? This is almost the same kind of story with the derivatives, the CDOs. Remember, everybody was, we're making money.
It's great, unless something goes wrong. So what's going wrong now? All right.
Picture that you, hedge fund, you just borrowed a mountain of cash to buy lemons, but suddenly a storm hits and uh and it's cold and there's nobody who wants lemonade out on the street anymore so you're stuck with all these lemons that you can't sell and your friends are like hey dude i need my money that is what's happening right now with the basis trade something maybe trump's trade war threats, China selling our treasuries, just bad luck, whatever.

This has been a problem for a while, but it has been under the surface.

Something has pushed it over the edge and probably the trade war that's going on now.

So the prices of treasuries and futures aren't lining up like they used to.

And the hedge funds are losing billions of dollars fast. So what are they doing? They're selling off their treasuries.
They're selling the lemons. And they're selling in a panic to be able to pay back their loans.
This is causing a chain reaction. Treasury prices are crashing.
Inter interest rates are shooting up by 50 points in two days that's huge and the whole market is getting shaky because it it's like a crowded amusement park where everybody's running for the exit at once trampling everything in their path if if you don't calm the crowd this is why the president tweeted early this morning. What did he say? It wasn't calm.
It was be cool, right? Be cool. Be cool.
Be cool. This is this is bad.
It's like a roller coaster breaking down mid ride. You know, the track is starting to come a little bit loose.
Hedge funds are in trouble. The big players, they have borrowed so much they can't pay it back.
They could go bust. That's billions of dollars at risk.
The market chaos that this will cause, the panic selling is making it hard for anybody to buy or sell treasuries smoothly. Let me just say that again.
The panic buying and selling. Nothing happens good when you're in your lizard brain.
This is, I think, maybe one of the reasons why I felt so calm and at peace this week when I see everything on fire. And it might just be that I'm kind of resigned to, you know what? It's going to happen.
Whatever's going to happen is going to happen. And we're not going to stop it.
So let's not be freaks about it. Let's not freak out.
Just prepare for whatever might happen. And maybe part of that is because, I don't know, maybe the Lord is blessing me to say to you, don't panic.
Because nothing good happens in a panic. And that's what's making everything.
It's it's it's like the lemonade stand shutting down, leaving everybody thirsty, confused. The ripple effects.
Treasuries are a cornerstone of the financial world. The banks, the companies, regular people through pensions or savings.
Everybody depends on these. And if they become unstable, that messes the entire economy up kind of like the amusement parks power goes out all the rides are stopped except that ride with a roller coaster that runs on gravity that's already going down the track and the track is broken okay it we could need two trillion dollars of a bailout for these stupid hedge funds okay uh that's you know filling a swimming pool with uh thousand dollar bills and you know still having oh a ton left uh not a good not a good not a good thing um we're watching this uh and i'm aware of it i i want you to know that that is i don't say this you know panic is not good but i saw this yesterday and uh started doing my homework on it and you know when red lights are flashing and nobody's really talking about it those are the kind of red lights that i kind of see all the time.
I see kind of the big ones that could cause catastrophic damage. And it might be a lower probability.
I don't know. I've talked to quite a few people in the last 24 hours about this.
And they're like, it's nothing to panic about. What time is it? Nothing to panic about now.
But by the end of the week, if this continues, it could start to be a real problem and the Fed will have to step in. And if the Fed steps in, what are they going to do? They have to bail the hedge funds out.
How popular is that? bail the hedge funds out to make sure that, you know, we keep the economy stable,

which means they're going to have to print the money which means what inflation is going to go up uh this is there there are no good solutions here unless people stop panicking would trump bail hedge hedge funds out would he advocate for that you think I don't think I don't think so

I mean, the Fed's doing so much stuff right know. But do they even have to be anymore? I mean, yeah.

The Fed's doing so much stuff right now.

Look at the Constitution anymore.

No, we really don't.

We really don't.

Let me ask you this.

Go on.

OK.

And this is maybe an uncomfortable question when I ask it anyway.

OK.

Yes, I know.

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Yeah.

OK.

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All right.

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Now, there is a bill being being floated in congress currently the bill uh is being supported by a lot of people you do not like a lot of people i don't not like um many many democrats along with um a slew of republicans Some of which are you're're okay with but most of which seem to be like mitch mcconnell types yes okay susan collins right like the republicans that you don't like however the bill and let me just give you the devils in the details okay we know that but let me give you the baseline of the bill the bill would require um when the president puts on new tariffs they would have to within 48 hours come to congress and present a justification for for those tariffs and sell it and then it within 60 days congress would have to approve or disapprove of the of that tariff this is by the way congress's job in the constitution actually it's they're supposed to be just doing it but this would be a regaining of the power given to congress in the constitution to deal with tariffs specifically and it's like i look at that bill and i have been begging for many, many, many years for Congress to take back this power because first of all, I think it's unconstitutional that they gave it up in the first place. But secondly, these things I think should move slowly.
I think tariffs should be something that moves slowly when at all possible. They gave emergency power to the president to do what he's doing here.
He's declared an emergency and has used it to do these tariffs whether you for these tariffs or not though the founding fathers were clear of what they wanted where they wanted that power to lie which is with congress the reigns act would do something similar um although more expansive and of course the democrats don't aren't adopting that of course not of course not So now that we have this bill in front of you, which way do you support this bill? Or do you oppose this bill? Because I'm conflicted about it because the people who are supporting it are not people that I like. However, it is something that I do think is the appropriate power of Congress.
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all right let me uh let me give you the answer. Your question is.
Yeah, there's a bill supported by a lot of people we don't care for all that much that I wind up supporting because it is essentially enforcing Congress's constitutional power on tariffs. Yes.
And you're asking if I would support you support that? I would support that because I'm for the Constitution at all times. I don't care if I'm sitting here and I'm like, Charlie Manson, you're on my side on this.
I don't really care if it's constitutional, if it is the way to protect and defend the Constitution. I'm for it always, no matter who I'm standing with.
To be clear, in this situation, it's much worse than Charlie Manson supporting it with you. I know, I know.
With that, on this particular issue, comes a real problem. If Congress, you know, the president can say, I'm enacting these tariffs, and then within 60 days, Congress has to say yes or no on that, okay? Everybody will just wait you out for 60 days because they know Congress is such weasels.
They won't do anything, okay? However, the way to fix that. Okay.
Everybody will just wait you out for 60 days because they know Congress is such weasels. They won't do anything.
Okay. However, the way to fix that is the reins act.
So you can restore the, the treaty or the, the tariff responsibility back to Congress and all of the other responsibilities. Congress doesn't become spineless.
When we hold their feet to the fire. They've given away all of these duties, all of these powers, because they don't want to be held responsible for anything.
So I'm for the Reigns Act, which restores their responsibility, because that has to happen. You want to fix the country.
Congress has to be responsible for what the Constitution says Congress is responsible for. However, there's a caveat on this.
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One of my dear friends and what I think one of the best reporters in the nation, she works for the Washington Examiner. She's a national political reporter there.
She's written a couple of books. The first one was about Donald Trump and his first win.
She's the one who really saw that. Unlike anybody else, she called that one.
She's got a new book coming out this summer called Butler. Can't wait to talk to her about that.
But she just wrote a story about being, you know, in Pennsylvania and talking to people in Pennsylvania and what she learned about America first. It's fascinating.
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I can't wait to talk to you, Selena, about Butler. We'll get into that here in a second.
But can we just talk about your story that you wrote a couple of days ago what i learned about america first in pennsylvania in a steel mill tell me about your experience um so thanks so much for having me on glad you bet so nice to talk to you you're so great uh you know so this is this is a a special correspondence to the um washington post uh and And they reached out to me after the election to do this kind of work. And I really wanted to get in there and tell the people's story, in particular the steelworker's story, not only about how they feel about this sale to Nippon, but also how they feel about the tariffs.
And it is, you know, walking into that steel mill, I have to tell you, it was a thrill of my career. I have wanted to go inside that mill for 30 years and have always been turned down.
And I think finally I just wore them down. And you just walk in there,

I don't know if you've ever been in one.

No, I haven't.

But it is.

Is it like the pictures where the sparks are flying?

Is it still like that?

Yes.

Wow.

So cool.

I really, really enjoyed it.

I have my hard hat on, earplugs, the sound,

everything like the sound, the smell, the the visuals everything about that place screams work right you just felt and you felt like you were in a place that was part of something bigger than self and that is how these men and women see what they do is is it's bigger than them. And it, because what do it makes your appliances it makes your cars it makes your roads it makes your buildings everything um everything and and and if we are ever threatened it makes the vehicles and the instruments to protect us so they are part of something bigger than self it is a very patriotic job.
U.S. Steel is America's first big company.
Once upon a time, the largest company, not just in the country, but in the world. That's the magnitude of U.S.
Steel. And what are some of the things that took it down? Tariffs, trade, bad trade deals.
And these guys have been just hanging on by a thread trying to keep this very important thing still made and produced in America. Now, when the Nippon deal first came out in December of 2023, the union guys, the management, they were like against it.
Why? And there's a historical reason. Most steelworkers are generational, right? Their grandfather, their great-grandfather, they all worked in it.
So the images of the 70s where Japan was selling the deal, dumping the steel. But they're also, you know, they have grandfathers and fathers that fought in World War II against Japan.
They probably should let that one go. Yes, they should let that one go.
But still, there's this cultural thing. Right, right.
Yeah. And so they were initially against it.
But then as they realized that U.S. Steel was never going to reinvest in their mill, if people take a look at the story, they can see the rolling mill in action.
I put a free link up in my Twitter account, Zito Selena. But that rolling mill that you see there, which is like this awe-inspiring, powerful thing, is 86 years old.
It's really, really difficult to be competitive with any other company or country because of the age of that mill. And it cost a billion dollars to make a new one.
And the U.S. deal has said, yeah, we're not going to do that.
We'll just, you know, go down south. And so Nippon comes in and says, we're going to rebuild it.
Not only are we going to rebuild it, we're going to invest in several other billion dollars into your company. And it took a lot of talks, a lot of understanding, a lot of getting more investment from Nippon, where the steelworkers, by the way, they are not aligned with the international.
These are the local steelworkers, the guys that show up every day, not the suits, the guys that show up every day, and they said, we're for the deal. It'll save my community.
It'll save my local church. It'll save my schools, the tax base.
And it won't turn my community into places like McKeesport or Aliquippa, which are now just shells of what they once were because of steel mills left in those areas. So I just said, Selena, this week that, you know, when Donald Trump talks about bringing jobs back, he's he's not talking about and hear me carefully, not talking about going back into Pittsburgh and saying we're going to open up all the steel mills.
He is talking about steel mills, but they will be smaller and different, closer to the needs, et cetera, et cetera. There are things everything is going to change, but it is it's different kind of jobs and different kinds of things.
We're not talking about this nostalgic, you know, rebuilding of Pittsburgh the way it was. Do they? Right.
And they understand that the workers, right? Absolutely. Yeah.
And the amount of technology that they use there would blow people's minds. They're like, there's so much stereotype of what you think happens in there that you often get from my profession.
And then you walk in there and you're like, oh, okay. And here's the other thing.
And to your point, this is a really important point. This is another story I covered last week.
Two weeks ago, the Homer City coal-fired tower plant was leveled. It was very dramatic watching the highest smokestack in the country fall to the ground.
But 10 days later, thanks to Trump, thanks to Burgum, they are open, they are putting in its place and nobody knew this was going to happen. They're putting in its place, the largest electrical gas powered plant in its place, that will not only provide electricity to Pennsylvania, but also parts of Maryland, New York, Ohio, and West Virginia.
And more importantly than that, it is, they're going to build an AI data center next to that. It's going to be 10,000 jobs, 10,000 jobs, $10 billion investment, and it's shovel ready.
And there are places like that all over the industrial Midwest that you can retrofit these coal-fired power plants and make them power plants for AI. You know, Trump and Bergam has said, you know, it used to be the arms race that we wanted to win.
Yeah. Well, we need to win the AI race.
Yes. It is non-negotiable.
We have to win it. And these are the places where we'll build them.
So what is your feeling now that the tariffs, you know, everybody in Wall Street, everybody's freaking out. And I think it's starting to freak people out, the average person, you know, because everybody is like screaming so hard about it.
You know, it's like, you know, when the media doesn't talk about gas prices, nobody says anything about gas prices, even though the average person feels it. This is kind of like that.
The media is just freaking out about all of this. And maybe they have good points here and there.
I'm not sure how this is going to work out. But the last thing we need is to freak out about it.
What are the people like you meet in those small towns, the working class people, what are they saying about the tariffs? well you know know, Glenn, we have had this conversation so many times before. I feel like I straddled two different worlds.
If I step on social media or if I put on the legacy news, it's a very, very different narrative than when I talk to people. Yeah.
And, you know, for so long, the playing field has not been level for them. And I know that sounds like a cliche.
However, it is true. And it's really interesting to me.
To a person, they are willing to have a short-term sacrifice for a long-term betterment for the country. I was talking to Anthony.
It's going to be in my upcoming story with my interview with Bergam. I was talking to Anthony.
He is a PhD in chemistry, has traveled all over the world in the energy industry. And I said, so how do you feel about this? And he said, I think it's the best thing for the country.
It's going to make the country better for my children and for my grandchildren. And we need to start thinking in those terms.
We have been thinking in terms of satisfying Wall Street. And I know, look, he goes, I'm 10 years from retirement.
I know what my 401k looks like right now. However, I also knew what it looked like in 2008 and 2020.
America rolls back. What we need in this country.
And he said, we should have learned this from COVID. We need to make more stuff here.
We need to make more stuff here. And we haven't

been able to because corporations see how cheaply it can be made in China, how cheaply it can be

made in Mexico or wherever, name a country, Vietnam or whatever country it is. And we need

to be able to have our supply chain be able to supply us. And if that makes me take a haircut, I'll take a haircut because it's going to be better for my kids and my grandchildren.
I've got about a minute before I have to break. I'm going to pursue something else.
But do you think that the average person really understands that this is not about the economy today this is about survival this is the great reset not done by the elites this is the great reset saying no we're going to put our faith back into america and to our principles and it's not about racism it's not aboutism. It's just about what the elites have been doing is wrong and it's going to hurt, but we got to do this.
Do you believe that they understand that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, to a person.
And it's really interesting because I don't lead into that question, right? To try to get them to say it. It's one of the first things that they say, in particular ranchers.

You know, talk to a rancher in Kansas, and they will tell you, you know, we haven't had a level playing field at all. We have been on the short end of the stick for decades.
And, you know, this is the first time that we have a chance to show what we have and show that we can compete so that our ranchers ranches for our kids and our grandkids are are better stronger more viable because they're not going to be if we don't selena it's always good to talk to you you know the one of the things that let me just say this to anybody who's listening. One of the things I love about Selena, we've known each other for decades now.
And I love I love her because she does not drive the highways. She doesn't fly place to place.
She drives the back roads. She stops at the coffee shops and the little stores in the gas station.
And that's that's why I think you have such a good handle on the heartbeat of the average person in America. So hang on just a second, because I want to come back and I want to talk to you about your book, Butler, because I find this fascinating.
Back in just a second. Let me tell you first, everything's fine.
Everything's economy is completely stable. A dollar is strong.
Banks are perfectly reliable. Government's not going to make any move that puts your retirement at risk and all of that stuff.
Disregard all of that. Okay.
Disregard all of that. You know, I was just checking to see if my nose would grow.
It doesn't. So I'm okay right now.
You and I both know that things are shaky. That's the truth.
Fed's been printing money like it's going out of style. Inflation is really worrisome.
We don't know where the stock market's going to be. We don't know.
We don't have hindsight yet. We have history to look at.
But is it going to play out exactly the same way? How is it going to play out this time? the world is changing the whole financial world is changing right now everything is about to change

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10 seconds, station ID. So, Selena, Butler, Pennsylvania is in your neck of the woods.
Were you there that day? Oh, yes, I was there that day. In fact, my family, when they first came here from Scotland and Germany, they settled there in the 1750s, fought in the French and Indian War.
So I know Butler very, very well. And I was there the day that President Trump was shot.
In fact, I was very, very close to him, all by happenstance. None of what was supposed to happen that day happened.
And if you want me to tell you a little bit about that go ahead go ahead um i began i began the morning um i was gonna have five minutes to talk with donald trump to interview him before the event um and well you know anybody knows donald trump i knew it was gonna be longer than five minutes you can't say hello shorter than five minutes it was it horrendously hot that day. I think it hit 103.
And so I get there at 6 in the morning. At about 2 in the afternoon, I get a text saying, hey, we're going to have to move the interview.
And I'm like thinking, as a reporter always does, I'm like, there it is. It's getting canceled.
But then I get a text after that.

How about, you know, five minutes after the rally?

Like, fine, I'll do it.

Then I get another text about, oh, 15 minutes.

No, about an hour before the president goes on.

And Susie Wiles and she says, hey, so how would you feel like flying to Bedminster from here with the president?

So he has more time to talk with you. And I was like, well, okay, I'm game.
I didn't have that in my bingo card. And about five minutes before he goes on to the stage, they come running back and grab me and say, it's go time.
Like, oh my God, they changed their minds again. So we went running backstage along with my daughter.
She's a photojournalist. She was with me.
And, you know, I'm standing there behind stage. And I'm like, well, where am I doing the interview? And the campaign aide said, I don't know.
And so he comes back rather sheepishly and said, he just wanted to say hi to you.

And so he said hi. He does his usual thing by saying, oh, Selena, you have the best hair in America.
And then at that point, they couldn't get me back to the riser. So he said, get in the buffer.
When he comes out, take some photos, record it, whatever you want to do. Just make sure you're over on the right-hand side so that you're ready to go when he's ready to go so we can grab you.
So that, I come out with him. He, you know, I mean, you know, I follow along, I'm in the buffer, which is like a well between the crowd and the president.
It's usually for security and photojournalists follow. He comes out onto the stage stage i get to his right and he does two things that he never does he um a a chart comes down i'm like what is he doing was he ross perot he never has a chart and and then the other thing he does is he turns and looks at it.
Now, if you've ever been to a Trump rally, it is very transactional between him and the people that are attending it. He never takes his face off of them.
He may move his body to the left or the right, but he never turns his head away. And he does that.
Within that moment, pop, pop, pop, right over my head, and the gunshots go off. Now, I see him go down,

but I see he takes himself down. He's not taken down by the bullet.
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in my direction and I'm still standing there and I see a sea of secret service men and women

surround him. Then I hear four more pops and then I get taken down because I'm not standing.
I'm still standing there. I'm still recording it.
I watched the entire thing. I have all the conversation that he had, and I get into that in the book.
But what happens the next day, Glenn, is powerful. Okay, hang on just a second.
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She is author of a new book coming out this summer called Butler. More in a minute.
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She is the author of a coming book.

We'll talk to her again this summer when it comes out.

A coming book called Butler,

the untold story of the near assassination of Donald Trump

and the fight for America's heartland.

I think that's chapter one. That's the longest title, Selena, I've ever heard.
And my books have long titles. I didn't come up with that.
Okay. Anyway, you were talking about when he was shot, and you said it was the next day that was really telling.
Let me ask you first before you go into the the next day you were close enough to see when he was down on the ground i asked him recently um privately what what was going through your head and he said uh honestly glenn this is pathetic it looks weak get up you're not afraid get up get up yeah uh that was amazing has he talked to you about that yeah it's in the book i won't give too much away i want everyone to buy it i'm ordering mine today everybody should read because selena is a great writer she's the one i would want to tell this story but anyway go ahead yeah yeah pre-orders you know that's how important that is, especially if you don't live in New York or D.C. So, you know, we had that conversation, and I'll tell you a little bit of it because I had the same, the way he explained it was so powerful.
So the first thing I think people should know is that he called me first thing in the morning the next day. And before I could even say hello, he said, Selena, are you okay? Is your daughter okay? Isn't that crazy? And I kind of swore at the president, and my mom's going to be mad when she reads this part, but I said, are you bleeping kidding me? You're the one that was shot, right? But it was just so stunned that that was the first thing he was thinking of.
And it was, oh, dark 30 in the morning. Like, it was really early in the morning.
We proceeded to have about seven more phone calls, I think maybe more. And, you know, one of the things that he said to me was, one thing people don't know

is before he said

fight, fight, fight

I could see him

he says

USA

twice

he's still on the ground

and then I see him

turn and get up

and say fight, fight, fight

and so we talked about that

and I said

why?

Like you did

and he said

well Selena

at that moment

I wasn't Donald Trump

I was

Thank you. that.
And I said, why? And like you did. And he said, well, Selena, at that moment, I wasn't Donald Trump.
I was symbolic, even though I wasn't president yet. Again, I had once been president.
I had an obligation to show that the country is strong, that we will not be defeated, and that we are resolute. I did want to be the symbol of america being weak jeez that does not happen when i even yeah that is not i mean you're bringing me to tears that is not something that happens that is in you that is either in you or not in you and it's in very few people.
Yes. and we talk a lot about faith as well there there are some very gripping emotional moments that he and i have not only that next day but also i saw him probably a dozen times after that at different rallies that i covered and we had some very emotional conversations um but but he in that moment.
And I think he believes that always. You can tell by his swagger.
You can tell by the way he talks. He always believes that you have a responsibility as the president of the United States.
You are a symbol of the country and everything that it stands for. You should project strength at all times.
And he had it in that moment. Isn't it weird? Isn't it weird? You know, there have been other world leaders that have had assassination attempts, and it makes them egotistical.
this assassination attempt actually humbled him and yet

strangled have had assassination attempts and it makes them egotistical this assassination attempt actually humbled him and yet strengthened him it's it's the most bizarre thing i've seen you know he could have easily gone up and said it was the it was the most beautiful bullet of all time but my superpowers you know what i mean and he doesn't like, God saved me. Um, and, and doesn't use that as a, that's why, uh, you need to go stay at the Trump God golf course that I'm building.
I mean, you know what I mean? No, no, no, you're exactly right. And if people are wondering why he is so resolute on everything that he's doing and everything he is doing at such a warp speed, it's because he believes, and he told me this, that God was there.
God saved him because he never uses a chart. He never turns away.
He asks me several times, I don't know why. You're like, outlaw.
He's like, I don't know why I did that, Selena. I don't know why I did that.
And the man you see today, and you see what he is projecting, and no matter who is sort of saying, this is terrible, you're going to break the country, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is. He's like, no, I am supposed to do this.
I am supposed to save this country. And I don't think you're going to see him, you know, waver it.
Now, will he change his mind on things? Sure. He's not dumb.
He's pragmatic. Yes, he's incredibly pragmatic.
There's also some, by the way, people will find out that Trump in this book, in Butler, that Trump is not the only president to be shot in Butler and almost die. George Washington did.
Oh, you're kidding me. Wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. He was shot? I didn't think George Washington was ever wounded.
He did. They missed.
Just like this guy did. Oh my God.
That's that's the um that's the that's the first chapter george washington running through butler i think we need to make sure everybody knows you're running for president don't go to butler jeez and and butler but the reason why butler is also so important is that butler is is a symbol of everyday america right this is This is a county and a city that is a great big mix of suburbs, but also industrial and farmer and ranchers, right? This is, if you wanted to see like a melting pot of the country in one county this is it and he goes to places

like that and he lets people know that they are seen yeah i know um there's a just like east palestine like that was the moment that changed the trajectory of his election was showing up in east palestine in february of 2023 people might not remember he was down in the polls then this was before the primary process started.

And he was down in the polls then. This was before, you know, the primary process started, and he was down in the polls.
One week after he went to East Palestine, he shot out above DeSantis and Haley and never looked back. And that is that magic power that he has in that he makes places and people in those places feel seen.
And so the book will take you also through what nobody saw and heard during the election cycle. Hang on.
Hang on. Let me go back to Butler here for a second.
He also said to me the one thing that cemented where he knew. and I think this is part of where he got his swagger back where he knew the American people were with him he said I get back up and I see the crowd is not a jumble of chaos everybody stampeding toward an exit I've never really seen the video of that moment from the crowd perspective.
Just you always see the video of him. What was it like in the crowd when that was going on? What was happening to the crowd? It was like a miracle.
People were not freaking out. People were cheering him on as he left.
And after he was safely gone, they just quietly exited. And what is really profound, Glenn, is, you know, they kept me in the back for a long time.
They were trying to make sure I wasn't hit because I never got down. And, you know, because sometimes you don't know if you're hit, right? And so I go out and walk with my daughter and my son-in-law.
We walk to our car and there's, you know, this is on a big farm, right? And there's all those cars are still there. They hadn't let anybody leave yet.
And instead of like people blowing their horn, like this is an hour after it happened, right? Instead of people freaking out, people were outside of their cars. They were hugging each other.
They were sharing like waters and food and helping each other, making sure everyone was okay. It was incredibly moving to be there.
And I talked to people that were there in, in, in the book and it was, um, absolutely, I get chills even talking about it because what you saw in that moment was, was the way that people, um, um, behave in, in, in a crisis situation can go one or two ways. Yeah.
And, and many people said to me that they felt the presence of something greater than self in that moment. And they believed they weren't scared.
They weren't scared. Selena, the name of the book is Butler and it's coming out this summer.
You can pre-order it now. I'm literally going to order my copy today.
Thank you. Selena, she's one of my favorite writers in the world, and just really, really good.
So this is going to be a great story. Do you get into who the shooter was and all of that? Yeah, I mean, the shooter actually grew up maybe three miles from my home of 30 years.
There's not much to tell in terms of motive, but I really get into the family, the poor sportsman range where he went to. This know, this is a kid who, you know, I went and looked at the log of when he went to the range.
He went on Thanksgiving. He went on Christmas.
He went on Valentine's Day. These are days.
You're with somebody. You know, you're able to get more of a profile of this gentleman.
But I also, you know, you're you're able to get more of a profile of this of this gentleman.

But I also, you know, this is like this is a day that had the wind blown any other way.

You know, so many things could have been so wrong in that moment.

And that's the heart of Butler.

And and you saw it elsewhere throughout the election with

the president. And like I said, there's some funny spots.
He chases me with hairspray all the time.

All the time?

Oh, yeah. Yeah.
He thinks that I have the greatest hair in America. And he will tell you that.

I'm not going tell you that. But he also is like, you need to wear hairspray.
I'm like, I don't want my hair any bigger. It's Italian.
I can't help with the way it looks. And so, yeah, there's some very humorous moments in the book as well, but also just like really on the ground in Pennsylvania and really seeing what really was happening in that election, not just with President Trump, but also with Harris and Walt.
There are some stories there that will blow people's mind in terms of how inept and unprepared they were. we're gonna we, we'll love to have you back, you know, when, when the book is out, but thank you so much for sharing that.
I know you didn't plan on sharing it today, but thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Oh my gosh. Thank you so much.
I really deeply appreciate it. It's always good to talk to you.
Good, good. Dear friend.
And one of the best journalists out there, Selena Zito, the name of the book is Butler. You can preorder it now.
Get it now and be one of the first to have it. We'll try to have her back on when the book officially comes out.
But it sounds like a great read. All right.
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i want to tell you i just want to give you a story that's from the new york post it's in our show prep today just as a kind of a kicker story let me read it exactly a woman was named november june by her parents even though she wasn't married or she wasn't born in November or June. When November June Brown was born, her mom, April, decided to carry on the family tradition of being named after months in the year.
November June isn't the only one in her family named after a month of the year. Her grandmother is also called June.
Her mom is called April and her sister is December. April is born January.
April was born in January. June arrived in April.
December's birthday is in November and November was born in August. Nice and easy.
This is crazy. You might want to sync your calendars for this particular family and they you know what they celebrate their birthday even though that april born in january april first everybody calls april and says happy birthday june was born in april as well so they call june and say that december's birthday is in november and november was born in august so august 1st they all call and say happy birthday to november it's bizarre i love this is there any month of the year that's not a a name i mean pretty pretty rare to hear november right like there's a few that's a good november october is i don't remember I don't know if I've ever heard anyone named October.
No, I've known August. I've known January.
I've known April, May. Not February.
Not really February. No, or March.
July, I think, maybe. I'm thinking of Eric July's last name.
You got to do what Turkmenbashi did, the old former leader of Turkmenistan, who renamed one of the months on the calendar

after his mom.

Just like April, May, June, Greta.

Isn't that where August came from, though?

Didn't Caesar?

Yeah, there you go.

It was named after...

There you go, yeah.

Yeah, so...

I like it.

You got that.

I love that story.

It's in our show prep at glennbeck.com.

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