Trump's Peace Talks Prove We FINALLY Have a World Leader Again | Guests: Sen. Eric Schmitt & Melanie Phillips | 8/19/25

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Speaker 4 Hello, America. There is quite a bit to talk about.

Speaker 4 What happened in the White House yesterday was historic. Now, does anything come of it? I think there's a good chance.
I think

Speaker 4 there seemed to be real progress yesterday. We'll talk about that coming up in just a second.
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Speaker 4 All right. Hello, Stu.
How are you?

Speaker 1 Wonderful, Glenn. How are you?

Speaker 4 Oh, my gosh. I was with PragerU yesterday.
We were doing...

Speaker 4 I guess if PragerU is the new PBS that doesn't take any money from the U.S. government,

Speaker 4 which I think is the big problem with PBS, was it was taking money from... Anyway,

Speaker 4 I guess I'm the new big bird,

Speaker 4 but I was recording with him all day yesterday up until

Speaker 4 yesterday evening. And I missed seeing a lot of this stuff live.
And it is one of the most...

Speaker 4 What happened yesterday is one of the things that I wish I would have been able to watch live. Jason, I know you were there watching it live the whole time.

Speaker 4 Stu, did you get a chance to watch it all day?

Speaker 1 I watched a good chunk of it. Not all of it, but most of it.

Speaker 4 Let me hear your takeaway, Stu.

Speaker 1 I think it's really encouraging that there's a chance, right? I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't know what to make of a final,

Speaker 1 you know, wonderful unicorn land where there's peace and Vladimir Putin doesn't do anything wrong again.

Speaker 1 But the bottom line is the possibility of improving the situation is there, and I'm excited about that.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm sure the Ukrainians have their ups and downs with this. They want the war to be over, but don't want to lose land, which is what's going to happen here, quite clearly.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the day, what our interests are is what is important to me.

Speaker 1 And our interests are getting this over so it doesn't spiral into World War III. So I am excited for the possibility, but, you know,

Speaker 1 you're, of course, always hesitant when trusting Vladimir Putin is part of the puzzle.

Speaker 4 Jason, your takeaway.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow.

Speaker 7 I didn't know what to expect based off of news coverage leading up to this.

Speaker 7 I half expected there to be a bunch of European leaders that all weirdly look like evil accountants that were going to be charging through the halls of the White House and were just really going to give Trump a piece of his mind to protect poor Zelensky to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 They were to protect him there because he was going to be bullied. Remember that? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 But what we got was a European love boat within the White House. They were all just heaping praise upon praise on President Trump.

Speaker 4 Now, did you see the New York Times response to that today? No. New York Times wrote a story today that the only reason, I mean, who learned more on

Speaker 4 how to handle

Speaker 4 Donald Trump, Putin or the European leaders? Because they all just bend the knee to him now. And they're only doing that because they have to.
Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 You only have to bend the knee to him because what?

Speaker 4 He's completely irrelevant.

Speaker 4 He's not making a difference in the world. Why would you bend a knee to a man who is a dictator, who's all the things the left always says? And I didn't get that impression now.

Speaker 4 I didn't see it yesterday. I only saw the clips.
But I didn't see anything other than what I thought was actual respect for moving the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 No touchdown, but he's moved the ball down the field.

Speaker 7 100%. And there were other diplomatic moves that led to this, like bend the knee to a dictator, Putin-friendly.

Speaker 7 I tell you, in my opinion, the only reason that Putin has come to the table and is really taking this seriously right now, one of the reasons why I am very optimistic are the other foreign policy moves that Trump has maneuvered just to to get to this point?

Speaker 7 Let's talk about Azerbaijan and Armenia. I mean, that is a huge shot across the bow of the Russians.
Huge. It's something

Speaker 7 their

Speaker 7 proximity to the Caucasus and wanting to exert influence down in that area. That was a huge move right there that people are not even talking about something that led to this.

Speaker 7 But I tell you what, Glenn,

Speaker 7 when I saw this go down, as I saw them say, you know, you broke the stalemate, direct quote, three and a half years, we got nowhere. More movement in the last two weeks.
That is all President Trump.

Speaker 7 That is all him. And I thought at the, there was one moment where they were like, you know, breaking news, you know, the meeting has stopped briefly.

Speaker 7 President Trump is immediately calling Vladimir Putin. There was a collective within the entire world.

Speaker 4 And we thought, is he going to get this done? You know, he said, because I heard him speak this morning. He was on Fox and Friends this morning.

Speaker 4 And he said, you know, they said, did you really just stop the meeting? Do you call him, put him on speakerphone? He said, No, I wouldn't do that to him.

Speaker 4 He said, But I promised him I would give him an update.

Speaker 4 And he said, As soon as we were done, I was going to call him. And he said, It was already like 1:30 in the morning over in Moscow.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so he said, I just called him up and gave him an update of where we were. This is a guy who I think is feeling the pressure of 20,000 people, you know, dying every couple of days

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 wants this thing thing done

Speaker 4 and seems to have a good relationship with now Europeans and also Vladimir, I mean, sorry, and also, yeah, Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 4 Let me just give you some of the quotes. Here's Zelensky.

Speaker 4 If you look at the silver lining of where we stand right now, we found a solution in 1944, and I'm sure we're going to be able to find a solution in 2024, or sorry, 2025.

Speaker 4 President Trump's efforts have reignited the dialogue. That's Zelensky.
Emmanuel Macron,

Speaker 4 he praised him earlier for calling for a 30-day ceasefire, said it was a positive step in diplomacy.

Speaker 4 And then he said, President Trump's effort to stop the killing in Ukraine, end Russia's war of aggression, and achieve a lasting peace. He has moved the ball down the field.
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Speaker 4 emphasized that any deal has to include Ukraine and not allow Russia to dictate terms.

Speaker 4 The joint statement,

Speaker 4 we welcome President Trump's efforts, which have paved the way for Ukraine's security guarantees.

Speaker 4 The leaders

Speaker 4 were flattered, they flattered Trump to keep the movement going. Now, that's the spin from the press, that they flattered him.
I think there was actual

Speaker 4 respect from most of them. for what Donald Trump has done.
They had completely stalled for three and a half years. There no movement for three and a half years.

Speaker 4 They couldn't get anything done. Putin won't talk to any of them.
You know,

Speaker 4 President Trump is

Speaker 4 doing things.

Speaker 4 He's doing things that I don't think that

Speaker 4 I expected. him to be so good at.
You know, in his first term, we didn't really talk about the art of the deal.

Speaker 4 And I think it's because everything was so combative. Everything was combative.

Speaker 4 This time, the art of the deal is happening in almost everything. He is becoming that deal maker everywhere.
Everywhere.

Speaker 4 Yesterday, he whispered into

Speaker 4 Macron's ear, which is weird, I think. Your wife is a man.

Speaker 4 And then he said,

Speaker 4 I think Putin wants to make a deal. I think he wants to make a deal for me.
Understand that? As crazy as it sounds. Now, everybody went crazy on that, but I think that's true.

Speaker 4 I think Donald Trump has this way of

Speaker 4 bringing you into the fold. He can push you out,

Speaker 4 but you want to be in his circle. You know what I mean? And I think every European leader and Vladimir Putin is feeling the same way.

Speaker 4 He'll push you out, but he can bring you in, and then he makes you feel like you are the center of the universe, you know?

Speaker 4 And nobody wants to be a global pariah, not even Vladimir Putin wants to be a pariah. He wants to look good to the rest of the world.
I think he also wants to win in the eyes of his own people.

Speaker 4 So does Zelensky. President Trump has this way of

Speaker 4 moving people,

Speaker 4 and maybe he's done this with Putin, maybe not, but maybe he's done this with Putin to get Putin to the point to where

Speaker 4 he does want to be

Speaker 4 friendly to the United States and Donald Trump. When he said, you know, it's weird, but I think he wants to make a deal for me.

Speaker 4 I think Donald Trump, the one thing he is good at is reading a room.

Speaker 4 And I think he's possibly right about that. Also, the security guarantees, Stu,

Speaker 4 it looks like

Speaker 4 they all came together and

Speaker 4 verified that

Speaker 4 not a NATO Article 5, but an Article 5-like agreement is actually on the table, and Putin seems to be somewhat

Speaker 4 accepting of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm hopeful that that comes to, it gets there. I think.
I think,

Speaker 1 let me,

Speaker 1 re

Speaker 1 I'm not 100% sure I like the idea of us being in a NATO-like agreement in Ukraine, but I like the idea that

Speaker 1 there would be a threat there to stop them from doing this again. So, you know, again, devils in the details on this stuff.

Speaker 4 For those who feel like you do, and I include myself in that, I kind of look at this a little like the Taiwan deal. Yeah, we're not going to go help them.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not going to happen. It is sad.
It is sad. I don't know what to say about it.

Speaker 1 At the end of the day, if Russia invades them again, we're probably not stepping in with troops. I mean, the one thing that you could see as a potential

Speaker 1 legitimate,

Speaker 1 I don't know, offset here are two. Well, actually, there's two things.
One is we, in the process of this, whatever time they're not.

Speaker 1 you know, killing each other, whatever long that lasts before Putin decides to do this again, if he does, you can build up the defenses of Ukraine, right?

Speaker 1 You can do a good job making a much much harder border. That's something we can actually, I think, move with weapons sales and such, and Europe can help with that as well.

Speaker 1 The other one is potentially having troops in that area, you know, a, you know, like a few troops, right? Like some that would say, hey, you know.

Speaker 1 Don't invade. We have some of our guys there.

Speaker 1 Sometimes that is enough to offset an invasion from a country that doesn't want to get involved in us. One of those two is a possibility.
You know, I've heard that maybe

Speaker 1 that possibility is not going to happen. We'll see on that.
But one other thing I wanted to bring up briefly, Glenn, on the reaction from the European leaders, whether they were sincere or not.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we can't read into their thoughts.

Speaker 1 But I would argue it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter if they're sincere in giving Trump credit over this.
In reality, that's a personality thing, and I don't really care about it.

Speaker 1 One of the things Trump is really good at, though, in these situations, and this is something that's totally different than past presidents, is projecting American power. Like

Speaker 1 last time Zelensky was here, he was arguing, they were bickering, they were fighting, they were, you know, this time the guy shows up in a suit. He is complimentary every single step of the way.

Speaker 1 Every European leader there sounds like they could be at a MAGA rally. Like that is not a coincidence, right?

Speaker 1 That is Donald Trump saying, look, if you want us to be on board with any of this, you'll come here, you'll be respectful, you will acknowledge how much the American people have given to you.

Speaker 1 Most of them not only acknowledge that, but also personally thank Donald Trump over and over and over again for that. I mean, you could argue, oh, Donald Trump loves that attention.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's what it is. I think he's trying to project American power and saying, hey, if you want us to be involved in this, if you want us to be doing these things that you really need,

Speaker 1 then you will understand

Speaker 1 the way these countries are stacked. And by the way, we're at the top of that.
And I don't think that's a bad thing for an American president to be pushing out into the world.

Speaker 1 And I think that's part of the reason why you see there's a chance at success. Again, I don't know how this turns out.

Speaker 1 But, you know, before Trump started doing this, we didn't even have a lottery ticket for it. There was literally no way this was going to end.
And everyone's been mocking him this entire time.

Speaker 1 And they will all claim this wonderful victory if this war goes on, as if they were right and they had this wonderful thing. At the end of the day, though, you have to try.

Speaker 1 You have to at least attempt these things, or there's no chance for success. So I just think that, like, the media and the left is going to get all hung up on this nonsensical detail.

Speaker 1 But the bottom line is, we have, I think, a lot more than a lottery ticket here to solve a really bad problem.

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Speaker 4 So there's two things that I think are the real outcome that should be noticed at this point.

Speaker 4 You know, when Donald Trump

Speaker 4 first

Speaker 4 came on the scene,

Speaker 4 we knew he was going to change things.

Speaker 4 When he won the second term, he made it very clear he was going to send a message to the world that he's changing things. He's changing the order of the world since the 1940s, since Bretton Woods.

Speaker 4 He is doing that

Speaker 4 while we have had every other president since

Speaker 4 maybe Reagan

Speaker 4 start bowing a knee to the global world order. Remember, it was George H.W.
Bush that said, you know, there's a new world order.

Speaker 4 And the world has been marching to that drum that America is, its time has passed. We're not in the driver's seat anymore.
We need to have deference to everybody else. Stop leading the world.

Speaker 4 What Americans have always wanted was stop being the policeman of the world. We don't want to be the policeman.
And we are not being the policeman.

Speaker 4 in the world that Donald Trump is designing right now.

Speaker 4 What we are is the leader of the world.

Speaker 4 And you saw that yesterday. If you saw any of those pictures of all of the world leaders in his office, it was like he was the principal.

Speaker 4 And he is calling all of the kids in or the teachers in because it's time we have a little conference here and I need to tell you what's going on in your own classrooms.

Speaker 4 That's what it felt like yesterday. That is the projection of global leadership.
It is clear there is one person that is running the world. For the first time in a long time, I feel like,

Speaker 4 you know, the left keeps saying that, oh, you know, he's just an embarrassment where we don't have any credibility. We didn't have any credibility with Alaska.

Speaker 4 And you couldn't say this about Donald Trump in

Speaker 4 the first term because

Speaker 4 the tide hadn't turned on him yet. You know, it was still so split, but the world is behaving differently because of him now this term.

Speaker 4 And he has become the world's leader. And he's doing it by making peace.
He's not doing it by threatening.

Speaker 4 He's doing it by just exhibiting leadership, getting up in the morning and saying, this is what has to be done. Let's go do it.
You know,

Speaker 4 and I'm going to get to this part here in a second. That phone call that he made with Zelensky is all telling.

Speaker 4 All telling. Not Zelensky, but Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 4 When is the last time you saw any world leader without the UN

Speaker 4 just say,

Speaker 4 I need all of the big countries.

Speaker 4 I need what are there? Six yesterday? I need the big European big six to come on over and sit in my office for a while. We're going to spend the day together.
When's the last time?

Speaker 4 I don't think I've ever seen that. In my whole life, I've never seen that.

Speaker 4 And then when he was sitting in that room and they were coming to a conclusion and the things were wrapping up for the day, he just gets up and says, hang on just a sec.

Speaker 4 I've just got to call Vladimir Putin. None of the people in that room could have made that call.
None of them could have made that call.

Speaker 4 But he didn't wait for somebody to tell him to do it. He just did it.
He went into the other room out of respect, calls Vladimir Putin up and gets it done. So what are the two things next? Glenn Beck.

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Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 4 I want to give you

Speaker 4 the two things that I think are the two messages that we should take from all of this.

Speaker 4 America is truly once again in charge. That's number one.

Speaker 4 We are leading the world, and we're not leading the world through military force. We're not leading the world through

Speaker 4 just words and projection of power. We're leading the world because Donald Trump is actually going places and leading the world.
You know, when you look at

Speaker 4 he's been saying here

Speaker 4 over the last couple of days, you know, I stopped six wars.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 yes and no, I guess. You could say,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 we could quibble over were these wars or were these just flare-ups, but I don't know anybody who has done more for world peace as a president

Speaker 4 in just the last couple of months, in a two-month period, I don't know of a president who has done more for world peace than Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 Name anyone who is close. If they're lucky, they'll solve one thing.

Speaker 4 He has gone in six different times now, and not all of them are.

Speaker 4 We're all having our fingers crossed that the Middle East and Iran is at least peaceful for a little while. Same thing with Ukraine and Russia.

Speaker 4 It's not done yet, but hopefully when it is done, it will last a while. It's not going to be a forever peace.

Speaker 4 But look at what he did. He stopped Pakistan and India

Speaker 4 from having a nuclear war.

Speaker 4 He is bringing peace to the world like I've never seen before. And again, as I said, maybe for the first time in my lifetime, America is the global leader.
And

Speaker 4 I think I say that because, well, I mean, Ronald Reagan was the global leader in the 1980s. That's the last time that I think that would even be close.

Speaker 4 But Ronald Reagan still had his detractors and they never came to the table. You know, Ronald Reagan, his power came from

Speaker 4 just the political prowess that he had here in America

Speaker 4 and his just strength of will that he just wouldn't give up. And then he also had Margaret Thatcher and the Pope on his side.
This president really has not had anybody on his side, nobody on his side.

Speaker 4 But you'll notice they're no longer taking him on and calling him a thug, a clown, a dictator, or anything else. They're not calling him any of those things.

Speaker 4 At least the world leaders, the European leaders, are no longer saying those things. They're taking him seriously because he's actually getting things done.

Speaker 4 So, A, America is in the leadership role. Now, why is that one

Speaker 4 worth

Speaker 4 really

Speaker 4 standing back and admiring for a minute?

Speaker 4 Because every president,

Speaker 4 every president has tried to reverse that. Every president has been working on this new global coalition.
You notice he's not talking about,

Speaker 4 this is what you hear from every president. We have a global coalition.
We're cobbling together all these, you know,

Speaker 4 states of the willing, all of these people who are coming together and they're willing to stand together. Well, that's happening.
But Donald Trump is not setting out to get a global coalition.

Speaker 4 He's leading the world and a coalition is forming around him

Speaker 4 and he's really not part of the coalition. He's leading the coalition.
He's saying, we're not going to do this. We're not doing this ourselves.
But let me show you how it can be done.

Speaker 4 Now, you guys go and do it. We're not providing the arms.
We're selling. ammunition.
We're selling arms to the Europeans. They want to do it.
They can do it.

Speaker 4 So again, it's a different kind of leadership.

Speaker 4 We are not the ones paying for it. We're not the ones carrying all the weight on our shoulders.
He's saying, look, I can get this done, but then it's your job to do it. It's not ours, it's yours.

Speaker 4 That is unlike anything I have ever seen before.

Speaker 4 Okay? So while he is building coalitions, he's leading them. He's not just another one of the coalition.

Speaker 4 That's true leadership, especially in a time when the whole world has said for a long time now, and many of us believed, the era of America's leadership is over.

Speaker 4 Is it?

Speaker 4 Because it sure doesn't look like it to me now.

Speaker 4 And that is, and that has been done in six months.

Speaker 4 Finally, a guy who knows how to wield the power of the United States without being a a bully.

Speaker 4 Now, the second thing,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody really understands this.

Speaker 4 I was in, during the, was it, 2007, 2008

Speaker 4 election,

Speaker 4 I went to the White House because I was called on the carpet by George W. Bush because I was not happy with the war and the way it was going.
And I had made some comment about,

Speaker 4 I don't remember even what it was, but I had made some comment on the air that,

Speaker 4 you know, hey, left, you want to impeach him? Here's the thing you impeach him on because this is actually impeachable.

Speaker 4 And that didn't sit well with the Bush administration. They didn't like that.
And I get a call on the way home from the studios, and it's the White House.

Speaker 4 And this is the first time the White House had ever called me without me reaching out first.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I get a call, and it's a 202 number. And I'm like, it's 1414.
202, I can't remember, 458 or something, 1414. And I remember 202, that's Washington, D.C., and 1414.

Speaker 4 I remember that's the number of the White House. And I look at it for a while, and I'm like, I think that's the White House.
And I pick it up. Mr.
Beck, yes.

Speaker 4 The president would like to see you in the oval tomorrow morning at 10. Now I'm on the air at 10 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 4 Do you think you can make that?

Speaker 4 I didn't even know what to say. I literally held the phone away from my head and I looked at the phone.
I'm driving and I look at the phone and I look at the road and I don't even know what to say.

Speaker 4 And I just,

Speaker 4 you know, I said, well, hang on, let me check. Let me check.

Speaker 4 And I put the phone back up next to my ear and I'm like, okay, looks good. Yeah, I can be there.
Hang up the phone.

Speaker 4 It was freaky.

Speaker 4 I get there and the first thing the president says, I sit in the chair, in the Zelensky chair,

Speaker 4 and the first thing the president says to me is, and laced with profanity.

Speaker 4 You know, a lot of people think they know how they can be the effing president. Well, they have no effing idea how to be the effing president.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is going to be the longest hour of my life.

Speaker 4 And he read me the Riot Act.

Speaker 4 After that was all over and he had that out of his system, we stood up at the end and

Speaker 4 it was the day that Barack Obama had said that if he were president, he would just fly our planes over the border into Pakistan and he would just bomb Pakistan.

Speaker 4 Well, this is at the point where Pakistan is kind of helping us.

Speaker 4 They're not our friends. They're more frenemies, frenemies, but they're kind of helping us at this point.

Speaker 4 And he says, Barack Obama says, you know, and if he would have done that, the whole, the whole coalition of the willing, all of that crap would have gone right out the window.

Speaker 4 And so I said to the president as I'm walking out and he's standing by the oval or by the resolute desk and I said,

Speaker 4 Mr. President, I said, I don't know if you heard this, but today, Barack Obama, and he said, oh, I heard that.
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And I said, okay.

Speaker 4 And he said, trust me, Glenn, whoever comes into this office, no matter what party they're in, they're going to sit behind this desk.

Speaker 4 And they're going to realize, because they're going to be advised by exactly the same people that have been advising me, that they really have no choice. This is what they have to do.

Speaker 4 And he said, have a good day. And I'm like, holy cow.
I walked out and I, do you remember me calling you after that, Stu? Yes.

Speaker 4 And I was freaked out. I was like, this is not good.

Speaker 4 The president isn't really the president. The president is just listening to all these advisors who were in advising the last president and the president before that.

Speaker 4 And it's all State Department stuff. And

Speaker 4 they're just executing a long plan. What difference does it make who we have in the office, if that's true?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 one specific part of that that you didn't mention was because he was very angry at you, but that part of the conversation was meant to make you feel good, right? It wasn't like an angry thing.

Speaker 1 It was a, hey, it's okay, calm down. All the decisions will remain the same.
And it's like, that didn't calm you down much.

Speaker 4 No, it made it worse. Yes.
And so.

Speaker 4 Why do I bring this story up, which I've told before? Why do I bring this story up? I bring this story up because

Speaker 4 when Donald Trump sat at the table and said,

Speaker 4 just going to get old Vlad on the phone, and he stands up, walks out of the room with all the world leaders, and he just picks up the phone and calls Vladimir Putin and says, hey, I just want to keep you up to speed.

Speaker 4 What's going on? He didn't ask for permission. He didn't have anybody whispering in his ear.

Speaker 4 He's leading the State Department. He's leading the world.
He's keeping his own counsel. That hasn't been done by a president in I don't know how long.

Speaker 4 And it's why we're once again the leaders of the world.

Speaker 4 Because these

Speaker 4 advisors, all of these doctors and professors and

Speaker 4 people who have been in the State Department their whole life and know better than everybody, Donald Trump has said to them, shut up. I've seen your record.
It doesn't work.

Speaker 4 We've been doing it for 100 years. We're losing credibility.
We're losing money. We're losing power and influence.
I don't want to hear it. This is the direction we're going.

Speaker 4 And he didn't have the juice to be able to fire all of those people last time. And he put the wrong people in position.
Now at the State Department is Rubio.

Speaker 4 And I got to tell you, Rubio is one of the last guys I would have picked. I would have thought Rubio was a big globalist.
Look at who Rubio has turned out to

Speaker 4 So the two things that are happening

Speaker 4 are really based on one thing, and that is the President of the United States is in charge of his administration. The President of the United States keeps his own counsel.

Speaker 4 The President of the United States listens to his own gut. For the first time that I have seen since Ronald Reagan, and Ronald Reagan did it in one place, and that was the Soviet Union.

Speaker 4 He knew the difference between good and evil, and he called it, and he didn't care what anybody said. Donald Trump is doing this in

Speaker 4 example after example after example. He's keeping his own counsel and he is telling his people,

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Speaker 4 Last hour, I told you the two things that you need to pull from yesterday's meetings at the White House, and that is that, one, America is in the leadership role again in the world in a way that I have not seen, maybe since Reagan, but if it's not Reagan, never before like this in my lifetime.

Speaker 4 And it comes from

Speaker 4 the president keeps his own counsel. He is not listening to all of the advisors and the State Department experts and all the experts.

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Speaker 4 Those are the two things that you really need to pull from yesterday. But

Speaker 4 this hour I want to talk to you about a couple of things, the rest of the program, and I think it's going to take me a while. One, the president spoke today about going to heaven.

Speaker 4 And I think that's an important thing that we have to just stop and look at and analyze here for just a minute. But also,

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Speaker 4 Also, Eric Schmidt is going to join us in about 60 seconds.

Speaker 4 He's put together a book called The Last Line of Defense, and

Speaker 4 it's really about the court system. And, you know,

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Speaker 4 The last line of defense, how to beat the left in court it comes out today uh eric is a good friend of the program he was uh from missouri or still is from missouri but he was he was the a g in missouri and was one of the best a gs in the country and now he's the senator from missouri we're going to talk to him about uh his new book last line of defense but also i want to talk to him about Trump trying to eliminate mail-in ballots.

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Speaker 4 Well, let's say hello to one of America's best senators, Eric Schmidt. Hello, Eric.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 6 Senator. I'm great, Glenn.
How are you doing, my friend?

Speaker 4 I am really good. I'm really good.
Excited for your new book. I haven't had a chance to read it.
I'm sorry. But I want to talk to you about it.
Last line of defense, how to

Speaker 4 beat the left in court, because

Speaker 4 that is truly, you have it right, the last line of defense, their last line of defense, and our last line of defense, which is why I've been saying for a while the AGs are so, really, so important.

Speaker 4 Before we get there, can I ask you about the thing that's trending in the news today is Trump trying to eliminate mail-in ballots. Can he do that legally?

Speaker 4 Because I thought all voting was done by the state. Can he eliminate mail-in ballots?

Speaker 6 Well, I want to see kind of what the specifics of the proposal are. But yeah, typically elections are

Speaker 6 run by the states.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 the Democrats would try to federalize. Yeah, and Democrats would try to federalize elections before.
I think what he's talking about is

Speaker 6 providing leadership on getting and you know with states. But this is, and he referenced, I heard the clip before I came on that Jimmy Carter talked about.

Speaker 6 There was a Carter-Baker Commission about 20 years ago that came out with 10 things you can do to secure the election. This was not partisan then.

Speaker 6 This was really kind of a bipartisan effort of what are the things that rationally or reasonably you can do to protect elections. One was to severely limit the ability to have mail-in ballots.

Speaker 6 In fact, in Missouri, In order to do that, you have to sign an affidavit, typically with somebody with disabilities.

Speaker 6 It's a care, only a caregiver or a parent or a or a you know a a son or a sibling or daughter can even help with that so it's very restricted i think what president trump's getting at and actually talk about it in the book the last line of defense it's a chapter because we took on mark elias in missouri in during covet times he tried to upend these laws across the country that protected the integrity of elections and he was successful in certain places think of pennsylvania think of georgia yeah and what they did was they just mailed out glenn ballots to everybody everybody across the state?

Speaker 6 Then they had drop boxes. That's the real problem with mail-in balloting: there's no real verification that that's actually a person.
They do ballot harvesting, illegal immigrants vote.

Speaker 6 You saw that kind of in the lead up to the 2024 election. The RNC this time was very well prepared for that.
It went to court ahead of time to beat it back.

Speaker 6 Whereas in 2020, a lot of people were caught flat-footed.

Speaker 6 And I know we're going to talk about the book in detail, and I wasn't planning on talking about the book in that way, but we do talk about that.

Speaker 6 The left was hell-bent on using this pandemic as a reason to undermine all the election integrity laws we had in 2020. And in some places, they were successful, and it certainly affected the election.

Speaker 4 So it's good to do it in the states, like you did. You took on Mark Elias,

Speaker 4 and I didn't know this was in the book. I'm so glad to hear that it is in the book.

Speaker 4 You took him on.

Speaker 4 You battled that in Missouri. You held the line.
But

Speaker 4 what we're going to have is what we already have. I mean, look at what Gavin Newsom is is doing right now.
The three people that just died in Florida. This is one of the worst stories I have heard.

Speaker 4 And Gavin Newsom is like, hey, Donald Trump's administration let him in. Well, no, wait a minute.
Hang on just a second. They had already said by 2019 that this guy needed to be removed.

Speaker 4 It was Joe Biden that let him. But none of that matters.
Why would you give him a truck driving license? Why would you give him a commercial license? The guy can't even speak English.

Speaker 4 And what we're getting to is this country that is split in two. We've got states that are using common sense and the law and the other states that are just going into crazy town.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, but here, let me, I guess, offer, yes, and this is the problem with mass migration,

Speaker 6 illegal immigration, mass migration, what it does to communities.

Speaker 6 The Democrats made a bet.

Speaker 6 They made a bet that if they open up the borders and you bring 20 million people in here, that they would have political control, they would win elections, they would eliminate the filibuster in the Senate.

Speaker 6 They would pack the Supreme Court. They would add D.C.
as a state. They would federalize elections.

Speaker 6 They would do all the things that they did in one fell swoop to aggregate power and exercise it ruthlessly. Here's the good news, though, that in 2024, in November, I think the fever broke.

Speaker 6 We lived through this fever dream of sort of the woke left, and it's hard to, you know, I think people forget what a grip the woke left had on this country.

Speaker 6 And it's honestly, Glenn, it's one of the reasons why I wrote the book, Last Line of Defense, that's available on Amazon now, is because during those dark days, President Trump was out of office, right?

Speaker 6 His allies were out of power. It kind of fell, and you talked to some of the Republican VGs.
It sort of fell to this relatively unknown group of people. I happened to be one of them that fought back.

Speaker 6 And so you got to remember: take the DeLorean back in time here.

Speaker 6 This was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, deliberately deliberately open borders, DEI struggle sessions, ESG requirements, and a censorship enterprise so vast that the Biden administration created it's the biggest affront to the First Amendment in American history.

Speaker 6 And so what I decided to do in that moment, I mean, I didn't think that was going to be my role, but my role ended up being trying to hold the line until the Calvary came, and Calvary came in November.

Speaker 6 So we fought vaccine mandate to the Supreme Court. We won.
We fought the student loan debt forgiveness came at the Supreme Court. We won.

Speaker 6 We brought the Missouri versus Biden censorship case, and we exposed this vast censorship enterprise.

Speaker 6 And so what the book does, it's kind of a behind-the-scenes look, Lynn, which you'll appreciate, your audience will appreciate. What was it like to take the deposition of Anthony Sauci?

Speaker 6 What was it like, what did we learn from Elvis Chan, who was the FBI guy in Northern California, who was pre-bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story?

Speaker 6 What did CISA have to do, this agency dedicated to cybersecurity infrastructure? Why were they involved with silencing Americans?

Speaker 6 Why were they involved in the election integrity project meant to silence Americans and affect the 2020 election?

Speaker 6 All these things that were going on, this landscape that I saw in that role, we fought back and we won. And that's the playbook.
That's the blueprint moving forward.

Speaker 6 And the key element of all of this is courage. You have to be willing to stand in that arena and fight back when all the slings and arrows are coming at you.

Speaker 6 I'll tell you, when I sued 50-plus school districts in Missouri for their mask band-aids, that kitchen was hot.

Speaker 6 There were reporters interviewing me with masks on in their cars because they weren't allowed in their studios. And they're interviewing me saying, why are you trying to kill the kids? Basically.

Speaker 6 And I was saying, look, there's no science behind this. No kids are dying from COVID.
Kids are twice as likely to die from a dog attack and COVID.

Speaker 6 And these adults who should know better are abusing their power, and somebody had to stand up to them. And so that's really what this book is about.
It's, hey, in the darkest times, you need courage.

Speaker 6 Now we're on the other side of it. We have to continue to fight and win because they're coming for our freedoms and our liberties.

Speaker 6 They're just out of power, but we have to kind of maintain this hold on the high ground, and I think we can do it.

Speaker 4 We're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt about his new book, The Last Line of Defense. It's out today.
I urge you to get it.

Speaker 4 I think Senator Schmidt, Eric, if I may call you that,

Speaker 4 has been on the front lines and is one of the most important leaders and voices when it comes to how to fight the left and how to do it legally, how to make sure we're keeping them in check by using the law.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 Frederick Douglass once said that the Constitution was the greatest affront to liberty

Speaker 4 and it was a slave document until he was urged to read. And somebody came up to him and said, hey, would you read this book about it, the unconstitutionality of slavery?

Speaker 4 He did, and he completely flipped and said, no, this is the greatest freedom document because the laws can be used to set people free.

Speaker 4 And that's where we that that's what we have to understand is that the laws,

Speaker 4 when we actually know them, learn them, and apply them, we can set people free again. And I'm, you know, we have to have smart, brave people actually doing those things.

Speaker 4 You know, one of the things on the mask mandates, you fought it in Missouri, but It doesn't feel to me that we've really learned our lesson from that. And it's scary.

Speaker 4 These vaccine mandates and everything else, it doesn't feel like that's never going to happen again. That feels like that could happen again in a heartbeat.

Speaker 6 That's right. Because the playbook that they had was you have an emergency, real or imagined, created, aggregate power.

Speaker 6 other people, the othering of your fellow brothers and sisters, and then you silence dissent. They were executing that.
COVID was a bit of a trial run.

Speaker 6 They couldn't believe their luck that the left could move something like this. And, you know, it's interesting because

Speaker 6 you and I, I think, first met in person in Utah, and this was in 2021.

Speaker 6 And RFK, actually, RFK Jr. was actually there too.
I don't know if you remember this. And he had a conversation, and

Speaker 6 I recount this in the book.

Speaker 6 He reminded me of something that I hadn't read or even thought of in years, was something called the Milgram Experiment. So in the 1950s at Yale, they did this experiment where people would come in.

Speaker 6 There was a guy in a white coat and a clipboard, and you'd come in and there was somebody paid on the other side of the wall. So this wasn't actually being hurt.

Speaker 6 But when the person on the other side of the wall gave a wrong answer, the guy in the white coat would instruct the participant of the experiment to turn up the pain gauge, right?

Speaker 6 And so he would do it. And then, you know, another wrong answer, they'd ask him to crank it up, crank it up more, crank it up more, even if they were told that somebody might die on the other side.

Speaker 4 If I remember right, they kept cranking it up and

Speaker 4 the screams of pain eventually stopped and there was no sound that the other person that was cranking could hear.

Speaker 4 And the doctor would say, he didn't answer, meaning, you know, like the guy could be dead. He didn't answer, crank it up again, give him another shock.
And they would still do it.

Speaker 4 They might have killed the guy in their mind.

Speaker 6 And what that haunted me, that story, it haunted me during COVID and gave me strength because what I knew was, you know, you had Fauci on TV and this just acceptance of that kind of authority in many ways.

Speaker 6 You need courageous people who are going to stand up and say, no, you're wrong. Actually, these five-year-olds shouldn't be forced to wear masks all day long.

Speaker 6 People shouldn't, you know, the guy who's working overtime to feed his family shouldn't lose his job if he chooses not to get. a COVID shot.

Speaker 6 But they were trying to lead people along here down this really dangerous path of petty totalitarianism. And so I think it's easy for us to kind of forget about that, Glenn.

Speaker 6 Like, you know, I think in some ways, you know, watching Tiger King was fun and the last dance with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 6 You know, I, you know, played Uno a lot more with my kids at the early days, but that became a terrible experiment, a terrible experiment.

Speaker 6 And so really what the last line of defense was, what did we do in those moments? What did we do? And I chose to stand up and fight back. And

Speaker 6 I wasn't the only one. But I think those lessons learned,

Speaker 6 you know, there's a

Speaker 6 Czech writer, Milan Qadir, once said something like, you know, the struggle against power is man's struggle of memory versus forgetting. And we can't forget that stuff.

Speaker 6 And, you know, think about what they were trying to do with President Trump with lawfare. So I think for a long time, conservatives viewed the courts as a place where they didn't want to play.

Speaker 6 And, you know, there are so many people telling us the Constitution is a living document. And, you know,

Speaker 6 the left kind of controlled the courts. That's changing.
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Speaker 6 And so we can be in that arena. We can fight back and we can win.
And I think that's important lessons as we fight to hold on to this Constitutional Republic.

Speaker 6 And, you know, as you're citing history and Ben Franklin walks out of the convention and says,

Speaker 6 what do you have? He says, a republic if you can keep it. So we have to be willing to fight on all fronts.

Speaker 4 We're talking to to Eric Schmidt. He's a senator from

Speaker 4 Missouri. He was the AG of Missouri, and I believe

Speaker 4 the top two AGs. I don't want to get into a fight between some of the AGs who are all my friends, but one of the top two AGs.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 his new book that is out, Last Line of Defense, came out today. Eric, I got to take a one-minute break.
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Speaker 4 Tell me how long you have because I've got a ton of questions for you.

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Speaker 4 We're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri. He has the book, Last Line of Defense.

Speaker 4 I don't think people really understand

Speaker 4 the machine that the left, Mark Elias is really a big part of this, that the machine of the left has really built

Speaker 4 to take on

Speaker 4 everything that we are doing, everything we believe in in the courts to try to destroy Donald Trump. They just came out recently and said, if we win the House, it is impeachment.

Speaker 4 And they're talking about impeaching Tulsi Gabbard, everybody. I mean,

Speaker 4 their whole plan is just to gum up the machine and just grind everything to a stop and use the courts against us. Can you explain, Eric, a little bit about

Speaker 4 the plan that they have and how vast this thing is?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 6 they are willing to use all levers at all times for their purposes. And the things that conservatives kind of hold on to is providing structure or guardrails that they want to eliminate.

Speaker 6 I mean, if they had it their way, like I said, they would just simply be adding states of the union to get to a number in the Senate.

Speaker 6 And by the way,

Speaker 4 did you see the article in the New York Times yesterday? The

Speaker 4 pack the courts. I mean,

Speaker 4 it was. And by the way, it was

Speaker 4 scary.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and think about how dangerous of a road this is.

Speaker 6 Let's just play this out.

Speaker 4 Let's say that. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
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Speaker 4 Let me take a quick, quick stop break, and we'll come back with that and so much more. Last line in defense is the name of the book, Eric Jones.
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Speaker 4 We're with Senator Eric Schmidt. He is from Missouri.
He was the AG. He's got a new book out called The Last Line of Defense.

Speaker 4 These are really stories from the front line, but also stories that we need to learn from and make sure we are voting for the right AGs. And all of us need to grow a spine.

Speaker 4 I know you have a spine, but maybe there's somebody in your family that needs to grow a spine, or maybe somebody that is an AG in your state that needs to grow a spine.

Speaker 4 You know, as we were just talking, Eric, before the break about how the

Speaker 4 left, the New York Times just ran an op-ed about... you know, packing the courts,

Speaker 4 you know, adding states, I mean, everything that they could do to undermine the Constitution and the rule of law.

Speaker 4 They're now openly saying, got to do it, which would completely destroy the United States of America. It's not a re-founding of America.

Speaker 4 It's the founding of an entirely new country and system.

Speaker 6 That's right. I'm generally a very optimistic guy, but I do think you'd have a bit of a shot clock start on the Republic if they got their way.
And they're not hiding it. They're actually saying it.

Speaker 6 Democrats are campaigning on it. I mean, this is not like a secret.
So if you played it out, like if they really wanted to do this,

Speaker 6 what it would look like is, you know, they they win the House, they get the Senate, they eliminate the filibuster in the Senate, they pack the Supreme Court to get their way, they add four justices.

Speaker 6 And by the way, if you do that, of course, the response would be then, if Republicans ever have the same thing, well, you added four, why don't we add 10? And why not 50?

Speaker 6 And then all of a sudden, you end up with a banana republic that doesn't resemble this constitutional republic that's supposed to have a federal government of limited powers and these kind of, you know, really kind of guardrails that our founders created to protect against the sort of ambition from the other side here to upend everything.

Speaker 6 And that's why I think it's really important to stand up and fight. You got to have the right people there.
And again, why I wrote the book, Glenn, I just saw it. In that role, I saw it.

Speaker 6 And so, you know, the last line of defense, how to beat the weapon court, I think the easiest way is people on their phone just go to Amazon and order it right now.

Speaker 6 But it is, like the book takes you through. It's kind of wild to think about this time.
It was defined by social unrest.

Speaker 6 rioting. We had Soros prosecutors.
We talked about how we took that on. The COVID wars.
We talk about protecting sovereignty and these deliberately open borders.

Speaker 6 And we held that off for a while, dismantling the administrative state,

Speaker 6 fighting for the Second Amendment. And this woke ideology, these DEI struggle sessions and CRT in our schools, we fought back against that.

Speaker 6 But I do think perhaps the culmination of all of it, Glenn, was the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit where we uncovered the censorship enterprise.

Speaker 6 It really laid out in full view what they were willing to do. And you kind of go back to Russia Gate.
This was their impetus, I think, their foundation that they laid.

Speaker 6 Everything was Russian misinformation, disinformation. It gave them license to try to undermine President Trump's first term.
They tried to, again, affect the 2020 election.

Speaker 6 And then when Biden's in, this apparatus that was created was supercharged.

Speaker 6 And so when we took the deposition, say, for example, of Elvis Chan, who was the FBI guy in Northern California, I mean, he didn't hide from it.

Speaker 6 They were having monthly, then weekly meetings of the biggest companies in the history of the world, these big tech giants, and saying, look out for this Russian hack and leak operation.

Speaker 6 Yole Roth, who's this guy from Twitter, who's an integrity guy, testified or wrote an affidavit that said, he specifically said the Hunter Biden laptop story was going to be a Russian disinformation campaign.

Speaker 6 The FBI had it. They knew it was real.
In 2019, they had the laptop. They verified it.
It was Hunter Biden's, yet they were still trying to affect things by saying this was fake.

Speaker 6 And so it's just, it's totally crazy. You look, and then you get into the COVID era.
We took Fauci's deposition. He sends his chief deputy over to China.
He's a big fan of the lockdowns.

Speaker 6 He's telling friends masks don't work. He tells the American people that you have to wear masks or you can't go to school.

Speaker 6 What they were willing to do to control the narrative and to get what they wanted, to oust President Trump, to get the American people to be part of this left-wing movement that they really believed in and bought in, the culmination of that, of course, is the things that we're talking about, packing the court, having a permanent majority, all those things.

Speaker 6 But uncovering all that as AG and seeing it was just really eye-opening. It certainly affects my service now in the Senate.
I've seen it all, and I'm trying to fight back against that stuff.

Speaker 6 And anyway,

Speaker 4 what was the moment in

Speaker 4 probably that case, but in any of the cases where

Speaker 4 you couldn't believe what you had just uncovered?

Speaker 4 Was there a moment like that?

Speaker 4 Sure. So

Speaker 6 when we filed the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit, go back in time again, hop in the DeLorean and go back. This is in May of 2022.

Speaker 6 No one knew. Elon Musk had not bought Twitter yet.
James Comey and Jim Jordan weren't having hearings yet.

Speaker 6 But we were watching, I was watching Jim Saki at the podium talk about, hey, we're flagging posts for Facebook for misinformation about vaccines or masks.

Speaker 6 And then, remember, they floated this idea of a disinformation governance board with that Mary Poppins. person you know talking about it

Speaker 6 whatever and i couldn't believe i i thought like the Orwellian term, Ministry of Truth, must have already been taken to come up with this term in America that the government was going to decide what the truth was and what you could see and hear.

Speaker 6 And so there was enough there. We filed the lawsuit and we sued everybody under the sun in the federal government, all these agencies.

Speaker 6 And one strategic decision that we outline in the book, last line of defense, is we sought discovery first before we sought a preliminary injunction because I knew there would be a lot of focus on this.

Speaker 6 People would call it a crazy conspiracy theory. And we got the discovery.

Speaker 6 And that was the moment, Glenn, when we got the documents, the emails, the text messages from high-ranking government officials to senior executives at the social media companies about take this down.

Speaker 6 And this started three days into their administration. On day three, they began this censorship enterprise that was this leviathan of government agencies.
This wasn't just one or two people.

Speaker 6 This was the CDC telling the social media companies, these are the words and phrases that we want you to censor. And they did it.
So, you know, RFK Jr. was affected.
A guy by the name of Dr.

Speaker 6 Jay Bhattacharya was, who's now, by the way, the head of the NIH. He was one of the plaintiffs in our lawsuit.

Speaker 6 He was, they tried to, Fauci tried to destroy this man because of the crime of saying natural immunity is still a thing. Like they tried to ruin his career, his life.

Speaker 6 And so, again, I think it's easy to kind of forget about this stuff, but I don't forget about it. And that's why I wrote the book because we can't let it happen again.

Speaker 4 So we're talking about the book, The Last Line of Defense, Available Everywhere Now. You know,

Speaker 4 I have not gotten a good answer from anybody on this.

Speaker 4 Why have we not repealed the

Speaker 4 Smith-Munt

Speaker 4 Modernization Act that in, what, 2008 or 9, Barack Obama put through,

Speaker 4 and it allowed propaganda to be done on citizens in the United States. We banned that right after World War II.
It's wildly dangerous. And yet,

Speaker 4 why haven't we repealed that? Why hasn't anyone stood up and said no propaganda on the American people?

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, you're right. And here's the thing.

Speaker 6 One of the things that I'm very focused on, and so I handled the rescissions package in the Senate. So this was the thing that pulled back.
You know, we defunded NPR. Thank God.

Speaker 6 I think it was on your show talking about we covered $8 billion for all this nonsense, these NGOs. Because here's the nexus.
There's something called the National Endowment for Democracy.

Speaker 6 And one of the things we talk about in this book is we have to dismantle not just this big government to big tech collusion that happens, but what the government has decided to do in many instances is outsource this stuff.

Speaker 6 They outsource some of the censorship to Stanford and University of Washington to flag stuff so they could say, well, that's actually them doing it. They're working with the social media.

Speaker 6 But they were funding it. Just like we're funding a lot of these NGOs that do two things, principally more than that, but two big things.

Speaker 6 They They were the ones, these NGOs funded by your tax dollars, fueling mass migration to our southern border and working on censoring American speech.

Speaker 6 And we have to get rid of that all together because it is what became very clear to me in writing this book and reflecting on it, but in the moment was I couldn't believe, I mean, most Americans, you know, these, these alphabet soup agencies that exist, they've never heard of many of them unless they're out to ruin their lives, which sometimes happens.

Speaker 6 But they were all in, like they were all in weaponized and some of the high profile stuff of course was the fbi going after catholics and parents who show up to school board meetings but again

Speaker 6 um

Speaker 6 also i would say to glenn one of the things that lay out in the last line of defense is i saw from the highest levels of government to then the local superintendent at a school district how does a superintendent in springfield missouri become so infatuated with this DEI and CRT agenda.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 6 these organizations, these think tanks are funded. They bring people into Washington.
They say, here are the training materials for your teachers and staff.

Speaker 6 So when people say, well, CRT is not a class

Speaker 6 in a grade school, it doesn't need to be a class. If everybody's trained to divide the classroom by oppressor and oppressed, you have now affected instruction for everything.

Speaker 6 And they are very serious about all of this stuff. And that's why President Trump, and I start the book by saying in November 2024, the fever broke.

Speaker 6 Because I think now we're on the other side of it, but we have to be vigilant. Part of what I like about about this administration, it's a team of disruptors that we so desperately need.

Speaker 6 We can't fiddle around the edges anymore. We have to go at the heart of the beast.

Speaker 6 And the left is playing to win, and we have to play to win also, and we have to be willing to do that in the court system as well.

Speaker 4 The name of the book is The Last Line of Defense, How to Be to the Left in Court, which is literally the last line of defense. I'm thrilled to see what President Trump is doing.

Speaker 4 He's changing so much, but they're not going to give up. They're doubling down in court.

Speaker 4 Can you tell me, what do you make of the Andrew Bailey being named the deputy director of the FBI with Dan Bongino?

Speaker 4 What do you make of that? And by the way,

Speaker 4 I don't like taking him out of the AG role in Missouri. He was really doing a great job there.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, Andrew's great.

Speaker 6 He will do a great job in that role. And I think,

Speaker 6 you know, the call to service, it's an important position. And I think, you know, he's a guy that served in the military.
He served as AG.

Speaker 6 I think he views it as a way to serve now in an agency that needs a lot of reform. And I think he'll do a great job.
So it's a loss for Missouri for sure.

Speaker 6 And my successor, Andrew, has done a great job on some of his own cases, the cases I filed, and all that. And I think he'll do a great job at the FBI.

Speaker 4 You know, we're looking at all of these things coming out. And, you know, you say,

Speaker 4 how to beat the court how to beat the left in court um

Speaker 4 but they have to get to court uh with all of the things that are coming out now about rushagate and and you know i just saw tulsi gabbard talking about uh

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 uh about andrew uh fauci uh again uh and how you know there's new stuff on him

Speaker 4 The Senate has not opened up and confirmed the new U.S. attorneys, which is really hurting the DOJ.
I don't know why the Senate's not doing that.

Speaker 4 And are you convinced that we are doing enough to get these cases into court? Are we going to see any justice in the court system?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so two things. First is, I'm actually in a working group right now

Speaker 6 today in September. We're going to change the rules in the Senate and not in a way that affects the Senate like the Democrats would.

Speaker 6 This has never happened in the history of the country. So think of this.
The Senate has three calendars.

Speaker 6 It has a legislative calendar, an executive calendar where we do confirmations, and then an impeachment calendar. There's only three things we do in one of those three calendars.

Speaker 6 Usually what happens is on the executive calendar, for the history of the Republic, there's no roll call votes on the ambassador to Uruguay. You know what I mean? Like it's just

Speaker 6 unanimous consent. If somebody wanted to object, there would be, but there's no objection to that person.

Speaker 6 The Democrats have objected to every single appointment that President Trump has made since he came into office. That's historically unprecedented.
And so we're going to put an end to it.

Speaker 6 We're going to say, look,

Speaker 6 you don't have to wait

Speaker 6 for multiple hours for every one of these votes. We're just going to shorten the time frame.
If that's the game you want to play, we're going to get President Trump's team in place.

Speaker 6 And so I think that's coming. And I think that'll, you know, the Democrats are competing to be who the chief resistor is.

Speaker 6 As far as the other cases go, I actually think, and I have an op-ed out yesterday, about a path for indictments in Russia Gate. There is a path to do it.
I think it should happen. And I think Brennan,

Speaker 6 Clapper, and Comey ought to be lawyering up here because,

Speaker 6 now,

Speaker 6 Obama, ironically, has presidential immunity because of what they did to President Trump.

Speaker 6 And actually, my Solicitor General, John Sauer, is the Solicitor General of the United States now and was President Trump's lawyer in that case and won.

Speaker 6 So basically, Obama might have immunity for the time he was in office. I don't know what he did after.
I don't know. Was he part of this ongoing conspiracy? We'll find out.

Speaker 6 But I think that the indictments are coming and they should be on Russia Gate. And as far as the U.S.

Speaker 6 attorneys go, I think that's sort of the next thing to move to get his team in place to go out and just protect our cities. You know, I mean, more than anything else.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 there's a lot of corruption that I think they're still uncovering in a lot of these agencies, and there ought to be accountability.

Speaker 4 Senator Eric Schmidt, it is always good to talk to you. Thank you for all of your hard work over the years.
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 You're really, truly one of the good guys fighting the valiant fight.

Speaker 4 The latest book is The Last Line in Defense. It's an inside look at what he has done and what we need to do to be able to win against the left in the courts.
Senator, thank you so much. God bless.

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How are you?

Speaker 6 Hello. I'm very well, thank you.
Very nice to be speaking to you again.

Speaker 4 Yeah, thank you, Melanie.

Speaker 4 I'm a big fan of yours, and I want to get into liberal mindset here in a second, but I wanted to first touch on if you had any thoughts, I don't know if you had a chance to really sit down or even had a chance to really process it yet, of what's happened just over the weekend with President Trump meeting with Putin and then calling all of the world leaders to the White House.

Speaker 4 I've never seen that happen before. What was the real message or the impression that you took away from all of this?

Speaker 6 Well, it was very comical to see all these leaders who really can't stand President Trump all lined up like schoolchildren with a headmaster.

Speaker 4 I thought it was really amusing

Speaker 6 because, you know, he is the most consequential politician of our lifetime and in the world today, and they have no option but to try and

Speaker 6 manage this presidency and get on with him.

Speaker 6 But they were there for obviously a particular reason. They wanted to

Speaker 6 support

Speaker 6 President Zelensky, support his cause to the president,

Speaker 6 and to plead his cause really,

Speaker 6 that

Speaker 6 President Trump should not rule Zelensky over and basically hand him over, as they would see it,

Speaker 6 to surrender to President Putin.

Speaker 6 And I think, I don't know whether those leaders had any particular influence. I suspect very little.
But something has changed in President Trump's attitude, I think. I think he's a bit chastened.

Speaker 6 I mean, it seemed to me he was a little bit down after he had his meeting in Anchorage with Putin. He was not in Brilliant.
He didn't have a press conference.

Speaker 6 And I thought, you know, here he is coming up against the dead end of his President Trump's world view, which is basically that every world leader is capable of being either threatened or bribed to do the deal.

Speaker 6 And there are some leaders who cannot, who will not do that. And there are some leaders with whom President Trump, I think, is going to find, is finding it very, very difficult.

Speaker 6 And I think that was Bettis one.

Speaker 6 And so in that mood, we saw

Speaker 6 when he met the world leaders and President Zelensky, we saw a bit of a movement.

Speaker 6 It may not amount to very much, but in a kind of mood music, first of all, you know, there was a great sort of show of amity, obviously very different from the last time President Zelensky was in the White House, which was disastrous.

Speaker 6 So all sides were off their best behavior and all was kind of sweetness and light. But the more consequential thing was that President Trump said, you know,

Speaker 6 understand that the Europeans want to defend Europe against Putin. And if pushcasts to shut up, America will help them do it.
Now, that's a very big change from President Trump's previous position.

Speaker 6 It may not amount to very much in the short or medium term, but nevertheless, it was a change of mood music. Now, we'll see how President Putin responds to what's being offered.

Speaker 6 I would have thought that President Putin would not be very keen on

Speaker 6 NATO stroke, the Europeans being involved in in the military defense

Speaker 6 of Ukraine at all. He made it very clear that he won't put up with that.

Speaker 6 So I would be surprised if he were to actually

Speaker 6 be enthusiastic about this kind of deal, but we'll see. It's obviously

Speaker 6 a high-stakes poker game, isn't it?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it really is. So it's weird that you would say this because I didn't catch the downbeat, but

Speaker 4 you may be right on that.

Speaker 4 Did you

Speaker 4 is it just American wishful thinking in a way that

Speaker 4 I've never seen

Speaker 4 a president or really any world leader like this

Speaker 4 call for a meeting like this and get everybody to sit around the desk exactly like you know a principal calling you know the teachers in and having a sit-down with all of them?

Speaker 4 I've never seen that. And it

Speaker 4 the image that I came away with is that

Speaker 4 America is

Speaker 4 leading again,

Speaker 4 but not in the way where we are

Speaker 4 threatening bombs and everything else, but we're just

Speaker 4 being the facilitator, in a way, of making this happen and bringing people together that I don't think would have ever come together for anybody else. I just don't think it would have happened.

Speaker 4 Is that wishful thinking on the American side?

Speaker 4 On my side?

Speaker 6 Absolutely right.

Speaker 6 I think that's absolutely right. I don't, it's certainly unprecedented.
None of us ever seen anything like that before. But I think it's a testimony to

Speaker 6 President Trump's power.

Speaker 6 And as I say, you know, he's the most consequential politician in the world today.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 people feel they have to, you know, foreign leaders who don't like him even

Speaker 6 feel they have to dance to his tune.

Speaker 6 They're all working out ways in which to manage him,

Speaker 6 mainly through flattery.

Speaker 6 Sir Keir Stalma, the British Prime Minister, I think,

Speaker 6 is particularly adept at this. He seems to have made a friend of President Trump in the sense that President Trump has said warm things about him.
He seems to take a bit of a shine to him.

Speaker 6 He's found a way, I think Kier Starmer found a way of

Speaker 6 getting through him on a personal level. All that amounts to, in the end,

Speaker 6 probably not more than Hilla Veenes.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 it doesn't really impress me very much that all these world leaders are dancing attendance upon him.

Speaker 6 I mean, it's interesting. I say it's far family funny, but quite comical in a way.

Speaker 6 But the important thing is, you know, what is President Trump going to do about President Putin and his attempt to destroy the integrity of Ukraine?

Speaker 6 Does President Trump now believe that it is in America's interests

Speaker 6 for President Putin to be pushed back? Or does he still think that it's nothing to do with America? And if Europe wants to do this, well, that's Europe's affair and it can jolly well get on with it.

Speaker 6 It seems there's a bit of bit of a change, but I don't know. It would be a very big change.
But this is the question of

Speaker 6 when Putin basically turns round and says to President Trump, you know, you can go and shove your

Speaker 6 beast deal, and he may may do. What is President Trump going to do then? That's what matters to me, not these, not the spectacle of all these pathetic prime ministers and presidents

Speaker 4 coming and sitting in the middle. You know, it's funny that you would say this because I read this

Speaker 4 slightly different in that I think President Trump was changing

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 systems that had been set up since World War II. And when he was saying, you know, NATO,

Speaker 4 you know, I don't know if NATO really matters anymore. And, you know, you can do whatever you want.
We're not going to be involved. I think that was to tell Europe, we're not paying the bill anymore.

Speaker 4 And we're not going to be the first to rush in and be the world's policemen anymore. You've got to carry your own bags.

Speaker 4 And when they started to carry their own bags, I think, I think that's, he was doing that to get them to carry some of the weight in their own bags.

Speaker 4 And he does believe in a world order that, you know, that we help each other out on our allies. So I think it's not as much of a change as it's a completion of the strategy.

Speaker 4 Do you see any reason in that?

Speaker 6 I think we're entirely right that he was trying to g-up the recalcitrant Europeans.

Speaker 4 Correct.

Speaker 6 Stop just riding on America's coattails. And I think he's entirely right to do that.
I think, you know, for decades,

Speaker 6 the Europeans have just relied upon America being there

Speaker 6 to support them militarily and in the defense of the free world without feeling that they have to step up to the plate themselves. And I think I personally entirely agree with him.

Speaker 6 That's entirely wrong.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 obviously, you know much more about American politics and culture than I do. But it seemed to me that when he became, when he was elected,

Speaker 6 re-elected as president,

Speaker 6 he was surrounded, as he still is, by a number of people who I would call real isolationists,

Speaker 6 who really do believe that what goes on in Europe is of no concern to America. It's not in America's interest to get involved.

Speaker 6 The last thing they want is to extend government treasure on anywhere in Europe because it has nothing to do with them.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 this troubled me because I think that this kind of isolationism in America has a long tail, a long historical tale. And I think that, you know,

Speaker 6 yes, America's got to put its own interests first, but it is in America's interests to restrain Putin.

Speaker 4 To put it another way, if Putin were to

Speaker 4 take over Ukraine,

Speaker 4 I'm absolutely certain that he would see that as

Speaker 6 the gateway to make further incursions into the old Soviet Union empire, because this man, Putin, believes that he's a kind of reincarnation of Peter the Great.

Speaker 6 He believes in the restoration of the old Russian empire. And if

Speaker 6 America's isolationists really do believe, if they really do believe, that if that were to happen, a resurgent Russian empire run by a man like Putin and the Communist Party would be of no,

Speaker 6 would not put America in greater danger than it now is.

Speaker 6 They must be living in cloud cookie land. And that's what I think President Trump was kind of leaning towards in his earlier weeks or months.

Speaker 4 Because he really,

Speaker 4 Millie,

Speaker 4 I'm going to give a monologue here in just a minute, if I have time today, about America first. And it's exactly on this.
I think that's a misreading of what Donald Trump was moving towards.

Speaker 4 I think you're right, he is surrounded by isolationists, but I think he was going for something different

Speaker 4 because he does believe America needs to play a leadership role. And that, you know, that means you're actually engaged in things.
We're going to run out of time, and I don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 Let me take 60 seconds and come back because I want you to explain what I heard you talk about, the liberal mindset.

Speaker 4 It is so so clarifying and so spot on that I wanted you to share it with the audience. We'll do that in 60 seconds.
Yesterday it was with Frager University.

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Speaker 4 All right, 10 seconds. We're back with Melanie.

Speaker 4 So, Melanie, I've been so frustrated by the progressive left because of their self-righteousness. They just are just, they're just better than us.

Speaker 4 They're just, they're just good people, and they know they're good people.

Speaker 4 And they're good people because they're liberal. And it's so frustrating.
And I saw you speak on this and the way you set it up uh and the way you explained it um

Speaker 4 it just it was helpful for me to understand why i'm so frustrated at times can you explain the liberal mindset

Speaker 6 Sorry, which particular aspect of the liberal mindset are you talking about?

Speaker 4 I'm not sure. Well, you were talking about,

Speaker 4 you were talking about how

Speaker 4 they view themselves as good, and that's what makes them a liberal, because liberals are good.

Speaker 4 Yes, yes, yes. So, okay, so

Speaker 6 they believe in things like the betterment of humanity. They believe in things like compassion and

Speaker 6 standing for justice and for standing up against women at home and abroad, and for standing against racial bigotry and prejudice, and all those sorts of things.

Speaker 6 And they believe in the brotherhood of man.

Speaker 6 Now, many of those things I believe in,

Speaker 6 but

Speaker 6 they believe that because they believe in those things, that makes them liberals,

Speaker 6 because they actually think that

Speaker 6 the world will be a better place if there weren't Western nations, that the West is fundamentally evil and wrong and bad, and so they believe in the brotherhood of man.

Speaker 6 But because they believe that this is their badge of moral identity, they believe that believing all these things makes them good people, anyone who challenges any of that

Speaker 6 is written off as not just wrong, but evil.

Speaker 6 And because they're evil, they won't listen to a word that you say.

Speaker 6 So if you produce fact and evidence and say, well, you know, you would think X, but actually you're wrong because look at all these facts and evidence, they say, I can't possibly believe that because it's coming from a tainted source.

Speaker 6 I mean, frankly, if I were to say, you know, today is Tuesday, they would say, well, I did think today might be Tuesday.

Speaker 6 But on the other hand, now that she has said it, since she is a neo-Nazi or fascist or ultra-right winger or whatever epithet

Speaker 6 they decide that they're going to give me on that particular day, because she said that, it can't be Tuesday, it must be Monday. And that's the way they think.

Speaker 6 And it sounds bizarre, but you can't really get through that. And

Speaker 6 that's the insufferable moral self-righteousness. And they don't actually believe in the things that they think they believe in.

Speaker 6 You know, the idea that they believe in the wretched you know the the they have compassion for the wretched of the earth when you look at for example their support for the palestinian arabs of gaza right if they really supported the wretched of the earth if they really supported the the arabs of gaza they would be out on the streets uh demonstrating against hamas uh for

Speaker 6 locking them up for killing them in great number, for persecuting them.

Speaker 6 They say nothing about that. They say nothing about people who are being persecuted all over the world.

Speaker 6 They say nothing about the women who are so dreadfully abused and raped and tortured and stoned in the Islamic world.

Speaker 6 They don't care about any of the people they purport to care about. What they care about is their own sense of themselves as wonderful, good, righteous, upright, morally wonderful people,

Speaker 6 themselves,

Speaker 6 their image to themselves in this respect, and their image among similar people. It's a kind of echo chamber of self-righteousness.

Speaker 6 And if you culture that, if you try and puncture that by giving them facts,

Speaker 6 such as look at all the women who were not just raped but sexually mutilated in the Hamas-led atrocities of October 7, 2023, they won't even think about that.

Speaker 1 They won't even acknowledge that that it even happened.

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Speaker 4 We have been so backed up today. I need

Speaker 4 a full three hours again today just to get to all the stuff that I wanted to get to. I'm not going to be able to get to

Speaker 4 really defining America first and using yesterday as an example.

Speaker 4 One of my favorite lines from the Princess Bride, it does not mean what you think it means.

Speaker 4 I do not think it means what you think it means.

Speaker 4 It was in full view yesterday, and I haven't heard anybody talk about it. And I want to really explain that, but I want to have enough time to do that, and we'll do it on tomorrow's show.

Speaker 4 Also, if you missed earlier today, there were a couple of lessons that,

Speaker 4 again,

Speaker 4 I think is unique that I laid out in hour number one of today's podcast, and that is the lessons from the summit yesterday.

Speaker 4 And to summarize, one, America is back, leading without wars, building coalitions, but putting America first without disengaging.

Speaker 4 We are leading the coalition.

Speaker 4 We are building the coalition, but unlike other coalitions in the past, where we built the coalitions and basically all it was was was a bunch of flags behind the president so he could say, we got a coalition of nations and they didn't really do anything.

Speaker 4 This time it's different. He's building the coalition and then ours is the flag behind them as well.
And we're not really doing anything other than

Speaker 4 the second point that I brought up earlier today is

Speaker 4 our president keeps his own counsel.

Speaker 4 You know, he hears counsel from others, but he keeps his own counsel. He's calling the shots.
Like Babe Ruth used to do.

Speaker 4 He'll go, you know, to home plate, and as the pitcher is winding up, he'll point and say, it's going there.

Speaker 4 Every other president that I've seen, except for Ronald Reagan in the Soviet Union battle,

Speaker 4 has always

Speaker 4 been counseled to do X, Y, or Z, and it was just

Speaker 4 another line from the State Department that just got us into all of these endless wars.

Speaker 4 This guy, and it was evidenced yesterday by the phone call that he made where he just got up from the table with all these world leaders and was like, I got to call Vlad.

Speaker 4 And he went in the other room and called Vlad. Nobody whispered into his ear, hey, you have to call Vladimir Putin.
He did it. And he didn't ask for anybody's permission.

Speaker 4 This is a president that is actually a leader in America, a leader in every room.

Speaker 4 And America is leading again. And don't tell me that we don't have respect of the world.

Speaker 4 You know, you can get two kinds of respect. You can get respect because you have the biggest stick, which we do.
And I think that was, in some ways, the first term of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 But the second term, he is much more focused and he is using that stick, but he is also bringing them to the table as a leader because they're seeing he can do do things that nobody else has been able to do.

Speaker 4 The other thing I wanted to talk to you about today was this piece that I heard right before I went on the air today.

Speaker 4 Donald Trump called into Fox and Friends, and he said something really interesting. Listen to this.

Speaker 10 I just want to end it. I want to end it.
You know, we're not losing American lives. We're not losing American soldiers.

Speaker 10 We're losing Russian and Ukrainian, mostly soldiers, some people, as missiles hit wrong spots or get lobbed into cities like Kiev and towns.

Speaker 10 But, you know, if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I think that's a pretty, I want to try and get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not doing well.

Speaker 10 I can't really hit the bottom of the totem pole.

Speaker 10 But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 4 So there's a couple of notes, and I'd like to hear, Stu, your thoughts, and Jason Buttrell is with us, our head researcher.

Speaker 4 I'd like to hear your thoughts, but the couple of things that came to mind was,

Speaker 4 one,

Speaker 4 again,

Speaker 4 and I've made this point over and over again,

Speaker 4 he actually cares about people. He cares about the lives that are being lost in war.

Speaker 4 I talked to George W. Bush during the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war.

Speaker 4 I can tell you firsthand, think what you want about the war, think about whatever you want about him. But the one thing I do know about George W.

Speaker 4 Bush is he cared about every soldier that was fighting. He deeply cared.
He knew the names of everybody that was wounded the night before.

Speaker 4 That's the first thing he would do: he would get the names of the dead and the wounded from the day before. And he started his day by making phone calls to parents, and he carried that with him.

Speaker 4 It bothered him. He carried them with him.

Speaker 4 Afghans, I don't know. Donald Trump, we're not involved in this.
But Donald Trump deeply cares.

Speaker 4 That's why he's so focused on stopping these skirmishes and these wars, is because he deeply cares about human life, which is

Speaker 4 fascinating to watch. The second thing is his use of self-deprecation.

Speaker 4 He, I think, actually is thinking about heaven. I think he has this new understanding of God.
And he's, you know,

Speaker 4 he's coming to the end of his road. Probably with him, he'll be 150 before he dies.

Speaker 4 But, you know, he is at that age where you think about those things. And notice he's not thinking necessarily about his legacy.

Speaker 4 I do believe he's being self-deprecating and humorous here, but he does care about that. That, I think, is the legacy that is becoming more and more important to him.
Where am I headed? At the end.

Speaker 4 Jason,

Speaker 4 you brought this clip up to me

Speaker 4 when it was playing. We were both listening to it.
You said, wow, listen to that.

Speaker 4 Why did you say that? Well, it's kind of what you just said.

Speaker 7 I feel like there's,

Speaker 7 I don't think he's expecting anything, any help as far as his legacy is concerned here.

Speaker 7 I mean, I think he absolutely just, I think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize just based off of what he's already done. I agree.

Speaker 7 I think that if he gets this done, it's a shoe-in.

Speaker 4 No, no, it's not. It's a shoe-in for anybody.
It should be.

Speaker 4 It should be. He won't get it.

Speaker 7 I mean, Obama was granted it just on basically just good thoughts.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I know. Pretty much.
Yeah, what I'm going to do.

Speaker 7 But this was literally something that

Speaker 7 everybody else at the table yesterday could not have done.

Speaker 4 They couldn't have done it.

Speaker 7 Vladimir Putin would not speak to them because of everything they've been doing. He was able to, at the end of the meeting, just say, yeah, I'm just going to call him.
They couldn't do that.

Speaker 7 If they called Vladimir Putin, he would hang up or not even pick up. I mean, this is all based off of his efforts.
And when I heard him talk about, you know, I want to save the lives, you know,

Speaker 4 I want to get to heaven.

Speaker 7 He's always bringing up, you know, he even did yesterday,

Speaker 7 you know, the assassination attempt. He said that was a very bad day.
We know that's always in the back of his mind. We know that the lives are in the back of his mind.

Speaker 7 He also made a comment yesterday about how some people were saying, well, you know, well, we'll get the two of them, you know, Zelensky and Putin together, you know, maybe in a couple months.

Speaker 7 And he said, a couple of months, that's measured in not days, but lives. He said it's that he didn't say that directly, but he said that's like 40,000 lives.

Speaker 7 He's thinking about the lives lost on this, which is something that we're not even really used to hearing, you know, from some of these leaders. It's always so cold.

Speaker 7 It's always so, what do we get in return? It doesn't even really sound like he's

Speaker 7 looking at that or thinking about that. So, I mean, it's just amazing to what we are living through history right now.

Speaker 7 And if it goes the way I hope it's going to go, I mean, I'm just glad that I was here to watch it.

Speaker 1 Stuh First of all, I love the self-deprecation. I think it's the most likable version of Trump where he's just like, yeah, I mean, I'm on the bottom of the totem pole.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know. He's so engaging that way.
And I think he should do that more when it's possible,

Speaker 1 just because I think it's super likable and funny. I mean, as you've said many times, Glenn, he's just a really funny guy.

Speaker 1 He knows how to do this. And I think when he leans into it, that's really successful.

Speaker 1 The other part I just mentioned is that

Speaker 1 there's a lot of guesses about his motivation on this stuff, right? Like, the left is always guessing that he just wants to be friends with Vladimir Putin or he wants to be a dictator.

Speaker 1 You know, some people who are just skeptical of Trump are saying, well, he's just, he knows how good this will look for him, and he's doing it for politics and everything else.

Speaker 1 I think you guys are both right and hit on this. He really, A, believes this.
This is one of his central core beliefs. It's one of the things he's been consistent on since the 80s, right?

Speaker 1 Like, this is,

Speaker 1 he really does want to end this war. And, like, there's not a super direct line to American advantage or Donald Trump advantage for getting this done, right?

Speaker 1 It's, it's more of something he actually just really believes in.

Speaker 1 And I think that's laudable. And,

Speaker 1 you know, it's funny because, you know, I think part of it is legacy, right? You mentioned

Speaker 1 the shooting, like him getting shot on stage. That tends to change a man.
Tends to change a man when you're about to go on the ninth hole and there's a gunman in the bushes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Tends to change a man when someone from Georgia was arrested for saying, quote, so there's only one way to make America great, and that's putting a bullet in between Trump's eyes.

Speaker 1 I'm going to kill Donald Trump. I'm going to put a 7.62 bullet

Speaker 1 inside his forehead. I'm going to watch him bleed out and watch him die.
I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1 He was arrested yesterday. That's a new story, if you didn't hear that.

Speaker 1 Another U.S. attorney announced arrest of a New York woman who traveled to D.C.
and threatened to kill Trump. That came out yesterday.

Speaker 1 So like when you are in a moment where this is happening to you constantly, where people are trying to murder you on a daily or weekly basis,

Speaker 1 You're damn right. You're going to be thinking about these things.

Speaker 1 He has to be thinking about these things. And I do,

Speaker 1 I find it pretty,

Speaker 1 I don't agree with every Trump policy, but I find it really hard to understand the people who just come at this and look at it as like, well, his motivations for these things are bad.

Speaker 1 Like I think he really does want to end this.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's not Hitler. So you're saying he's Hitler.
So you, I mean, but I mean, when people say he's Hitler, I mean, you have to go to, he can't have any good motivations. You know, right, right.

Speaker 4 That's true. You can't assign anything good to Hitler, and you have every right to want to kill him and watch him bleed out in the streets if you think the guy is Hitler.
That is the problem.

Speaker 4 And the left knows exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 4 It's interesting to me that neither of you brought up low man on the totem pole because I think the frog and maybe the killer whale is a little lower on the totem pole than he is. Now he might be

Speaker 4 he might be ahead of the bear, which is a symbol of protection. Sure.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know, and

Speaker 4 either the raven or the thunderbird at the top. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest.
I know my totem poles.

Speaker 4 The Thunderbird is the sky and the power. And I don't think he, you know, he's definitely under that.
But

Speaker 4 might be above the bear, might be below the bear. I'm not sure.
But

Speaker 4 definitely the frog and

Speaker 4 the killer whale on the bottom.

Speaker 1 Theologically speaking, Glenn, how tall is the heaven totem pole?

Speaker 1 How far does that get up there? Does it go?

Speaker 4 The high totem pole, the heaven totem pole?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I assume it's got to be pretty tall.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 I don't think that I'm not sure that

Speaker 4 I'm not sure heaven is even involved with the totem pole. Really?

Speaker 1 Even after your very detailed analysis of it just moments ago,

Speaker 4 wow.

Speaker 4 I'm not really sure that heaven, seeing that it's a completely different system,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 It does seem to be a different system completely.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is a little different. It is a little different, you know.
It's,

Speaker 4 you know, I guess it's kind of like, maybe it's like a Catholic Catholic

Speaker 4 Native American thing. You know, they took the Catholic, they have the, you know, the statues and, you know, hey, Mary's over here and Saint Joseph is over here.

Speaker 4 This, they just have the orca and the frog.

Speaker 4 I don't think it's as powerful as the Catholic thing, you know, but you know, it works for some. It works for some.

Speaker 1 And you speak as a man who's received a doctorate

Speaker 1 from a religious university. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes, I have. Not one that involves totem poles.

Speaker 4 Strangely. No.
Strangely, I don't think I'm going to get one of those. But anyway,

Speaker 4 I find

Speaker 4 so much to be learned just from yesterday. And tomorrow I want to share with you, but I just needed the time and didn't have the time today.

Speaker 4 I want to really share with you what America First really is.

Speaker 4 Because it was on full display yesterday. And, you know, Melanie Phillips

Speaker 4 was with us just a second ago, and she was like, you know, and that's isolationism. No, no, it's not.
No, it is not.

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Speaker 1 Here's Hollywood star Chris Pratt with Bill Maher.

Speaker 4 And so I don't know what to believe, because it's not like I sit with Bobby and I go, so hey, let's talk about this. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 It's like we're just playing cards or playing mafia or having fun or having dinner. I'm not going to pick his brain to find out exactly which of those things are true.

Speaker 4 I just kind of assume that none of them are. And for the most part, I wish him well, man.

Speaker 4 I hope there's certain things that he oversees that seem to be supported in a bipartisan way, like getting terrible, toxic stuff out of our kids' food. I think that's a great thing.
And so

Speaker 4 if you just do that, that's amazing. I'd hate to be so mired in hatred for the president that any success from his administration is something I'd have an allergic reaction to.

Speaker 4 To be like, oh, oh, well, if they do it, I don't want it to happen. I'll feed my Clorox in my children's cereal myself.

Speaker 4 You know, say, come on, have some, be reasonable here. There's certain things that would be a good thing to have.
I want them all to be successful.

Speaker 1 You wish every Hollywood A-lister would be like Chris Pratt. Few and far between, unfortunately.
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