Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Eric Schmitt & Melanie Phillips | 8/19/25

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Glenn recalls the time when he was invited to speak with President George W. Bush and what Glenn learned about the presidency and who’s actually calling the shots. Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-Mo.) joins to discuss how the Left will stop at nothing to win. Glenn spoke with British journalist Melanie Phillips, who gave a breakdown of the Western liberal mind and progressivism.
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There's a lot to take away from the summit that happened at the White House yesterday.

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But there were two things that I came away with that I haven't heard anybody talk about, and maybe it's because of personal experience with presidents in the past.

But the two takeaways that I had from yesterday's summit with Trump and Zelensky and the other EU leaders that are really important.

Also, Eric Schmidt, he's senator from Missouri.

He takes us back and gives us a glance at some of the really important court cases that he, as AG,

filed against Biden and the fights that he had trying to keep rights alive.

And he's written a new book out and it really outlines what we have to do to make sure we don't lose the Republic.

Also, Melanie Phillips, she's a columnist from the Times of London.

She watched yesterday the summit at the White House.

As somebody from England, what did she take away?

Fascinating to hear.

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you're listening to the best of the blend back program well let's say hello to one of america's best senators eric schmidt hello eric how are you sir senator i'm great glenn all right how are you doing my friend

I am really good.

I'm really good.

Excited for your new book.

I haven't had a chance to read it.

I'm sorry.

But I want to talk to you about it.

Last line of defense, How to Beat the Court and Left, Beat the Left in Court, because

that is truly, you have it right, the last line of defense, their last line of defense, and our last line of defense, which is why I've been saying for a while the AGs are so, really, so important.

Before we get there, can I ask you about the thing that's trending in the news today is Trump trying to eliminate mail-in ballots.

Can he do that legally?

Because I thought all voting was done by the state.

Can he eliminate mail-in ballots?

Well, I want to see kind of what the specifics of the proposal are.

But yeah, typically elections are

run by the states.

And

the Democrats have tried to federalize.

Yeah, and Democrats have tried to federalize elections before.

I think what he's talking about is providing leadership.

on getting and you know with with states but this is and he referenced i heard the clip before i came on that Jimmy Carter talked about.

There was a Carter Baker Commission about 20 years ago that came out with the 10 things you can do to secure the elections.

This was not partisan then.

This was really kind of a bipartisan effort of what are the things that rationally or reasonably you can do to protect elections.

One was to severely limit the ability to have mail-in ballots.

In fact, in Missouri, in order to do that, you have to sign an affidavit, typically with somebody with disabilities.

It's a care only a caregiver or a parent or

a son or a sibling or a daughter can even help with that.

So it's very restricted.

I think what President Trump's getting at, and actually talk about it in the book, The Last Line of Defense, it's a chapter because we took on Mark Elias in Missouri during COVID times.

He tried to upend these laws across the country that protected the integrity of elections.

And he was successful in certain places.

Think of Pennsylvania.

Think of Georgia.

And what they did was they just mailed out Glenn.

ballots to everybody, everybody across the state.

Then they had drop boxes.

That's the real problem with mail-in balloting: there's no real verification that that's actually a person.

They do ballot harvesting, illegal immigrants vote.

You saw that kind of in the lead up to the 2024 election.

The RNC this time was very well prepared for that.

It went to court ahead of time to beat it back.

Whereas in 2020, a lot of people were caught flat-footed.

And I know we're going to talk about the book in detail.

And I wasn't planning on talking about the book in that way, but we do talk about that.

The left was hell-bent on using this pandemic as a reason to undermine all the election integrity laws we had in 2020.

And in some places, they were successful, and it certainly affected the election.

So it's good to do it in the states like you did.

You took on Mark Elias,

and I didn't know this was in the book.

I'm so glad to hear that it is in the book.

You took him on.

You battled that in Missouri.

You held the line.

But

what we're going to have is what we already have.

I mean, look at what Gavin Newsom is doing right now.

The three people that just died in Florida.

This is one of the worst stories I have heard.

And Gavin Newsom is like, hey, Donald Trump's administration let him in.

Well, no, wait a minute.

Hang on just a second.

They had already said by 2019 that this guy needed to be removed.

It was Joe Biden that led him.

But none of that matters.

Why would you give him a truck driving license?

Why would you give him a commercial license?

The guy can't even speak English.

And what we're getting to is this country that is split in two.

We've got states that are using common sense and the law, and the other states that are just going into crazy town.

Yeah, no, but here, let me, I guess, offer, yes, and this is the problem with mass migration,

illegal immigration, mass migration, what it does to communities.

The Democrats made a bet.

They made a bet that if they open up the borders and you bring 20 million people in here, that they would have political control, they would win elections, they would eliminate the filibuster in the Senate, they would pack the Supreme Court, they would add D.C.

as a state, they would federalize elections, they would do all the things that they did in one fell swoop to aggregate power and exercise it ruthlessly.

Here's the good news, though, that in 2024, in November, I think the fever broke.

We lived through this fever dream of sort of the woke left.

And it's hard to, you know, I think people forget what a grip the woke left had on this country.

And it's honestly, Glenn, it's one of the reasons why I wrote the book, Last Line of Defense, that's available on Amazon now, is because during those dark days, President Trump was out of office, right?

His allies were out of power.

It kind of fell, and you talked to some of the Republican EGs, it sort of fell to this relatively unknown group of people.

I happened to be one of them that fought back.

And so you got to remember: take the DeLorean back in time here.

This was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, deliberately open borders, DEI struggle sessions, ESG requirements, and a censorship enterprise so vast that the Biden administration created, it's the biggest affront to the First Amendment in American history.

And so, what I decided to do in that moment, I mean, I didn't think that was going to be my role, but my role ended up being trying to hold the line until the Calvary came, and Calvary came in November.

So, we fought vaccine mandates at the Supreme Court.

We won.

We fought the student loan debt forgiveness came with the Supreme Court.

We won.

We brought the Missouri versus Biden censorship case, and we exposed this vast censorship enterprise.

And so, what the book does, it's kind of a behind-the-scenes look, Lynn, which you'll appreciate, your audience will appreciate.

What was it like to take the deposition of Anthony Fauci?

What was it like, what did we learn from Elvis Chan, who was the FBI guy in Northern California, who was pre-bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story?

What did CISA have to do, this agency dedicated to cybersecurity infrastructure?

Why were they involved with silencing Americans?

Why were they involved in the election integrity project meant to silence Americans and affect the 2020 election?

All these things that were going on, this landscape that I saw in in that role, we fought back and we won.

And that's the playbook.

That's the blueprint moving forward.

And the key element of all of this is courage.

You have to be willing to stand in that arena and fight back when all the slings and arrows are coming at you.

I'll tell you, when I sued 50-plus school districts in Missouri for their mask band-aids, that kitchen was hot.

There were reporters interviewing me with masks on.

in their cars because they weren't in they weren't allowed in their studios and they're interviewing me saying why are you trying to kill the kids basically and I was saying, look, there's no science behind this.

No kids are dying from COVID.

Kids are twice as likely to die from a dog attack and COVID.

And these adults who should know better are, you know, abusing their power.

And somebody had to stand up to them.

And so that's really what this book is about.

It's, hey, in the darkest times, you need courage.

Now we're on the other side of it.

We have to continue to fight and win because they're coming for our freedoms and our liberties.

They're just out of power, but we have to kind of maintain this hold on the high ground.

And I think we can do it.

We're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt about his new book, The Last Line of Defense.

It's out today.

I urge you to get it.

I think Senator Schmidt, Eric, if I may call you that,

has been on the front lines and is one of the most important leaders and voices when it comes to how to fight the left and how to do it legally, how to make sure we're keeping them in check by using the law.

You know,

Frederick Frederick Douglass once said that the Constitution was the greatest affront to liberty,

and it was a slave document until he was urged to read.

And somebody came up to him and said, hey, would you read this book about it, The Unconstitutionality of Slavery?

He did, and he completely flipped and said, no, this is the greatest freedom document because the laws can be used to set people free.

And

that's what we have to understand, is that the laws,

when we actually know them, learn them, and apply them, we can set people free again.

And I'm, you know, we have to have smart, brave people actually doing those things.

You know, one of the things on the mask mandates, you fought it in Missouri, but It doesn't feel to me that we've really learned our lesson from that.

And it's scary.

These vaccine mandates and everything else, doesn't feel like that's never going to happen again.

That feels like that could happen again in a heartbeat.

That's right.

Because the playbook that they had was you have an emergency, real or imagined, created, aggregate power, other people, the othering of your fellow brothers and sisters, and then you silence dissent.

They were executing that.

COVID was a bit of a trial run.

They couldn't believe their luck that the left could move something like this.

And, you know, it's interesting because I, you and I, I think, first met in person in Utah, and this was in 2021.

And RFK, actually, RFK Jr.

was actually there too.

I don't know if you remember this.

And he had a conversation, and

I recount this in the book.

He reminded me of something that I hadn't read or even thought of in years, was something called the Milgram Experiment.

So in the 1950s at Yale, they did this experiment where people would come in.

There was a guy in a white coat and a clipboard, and you'd come in, and there was somebody paid on the the other side of the wall.

So this wasn't actually being hurt.

But when the other side person on the other side of the wall gave a wrong answer, the guy in the white coat would instruct the participant of the experiment to turn up the pain gauge, right?

And so he would do it.

And then, you know, another wrong answer, they'd ask him to crank it up, crank it up more, crank it up more, even if like they were told that somebody might die on the other side.

If I remember right, if I remember right, they kept cranking it up, and the

screams of pain eventually stopped and there was no sound that the other person that was cranking could hear.

And the doctor would say, he didn't answer, meaning, you know, like the guy could be dead.

He didn't answer.

Crank it up again, give him another shock.

And they would still do it.

They might have killed the guy in their mind.

And what that haunted me.

That story, it haunted me during COVID and gave me strength because what I knew was, you know, you had Fauci on TV and this just acceptance of that kind of authority in many ways.

You need courageous people who are going to stand up and say, no, you're wrong.

Actually, these five-year-olds shouldn't be forced to wear masks all day long.

People shouldn't, you know, the guy who's working overtime to feed his family shouldn't lose his job if he chooses not to get a COVID shot.

But they were trying to lead people along here down this really dangerous path of petty totalitarianism.

And so I think it's easy for us to kind of forget about that, Glenn.

Like, you know, I think in some ways, you know, watching Tiger King was fun and the last dance with Michael Jordan.

You know, I, you know, played Uno a lot more with my kids at the early days, but that became a terrible experiment, a terrible experiment.

And so really what the last line of defense was, what did we do in those moments?

What did we do?

And I chose to stand up and fight back.

And

I wasn't the only one.

But I think those lessons learned,

you know, there's a

Czech writer, Milan Qadir, once said something like, you know, the struggle against power is man's struggle of memory versus forgetting.

And we can't forget that stuff.

And, you know, think about what they were trying to do with President Trump, with lawfare.

So I think for a long time, conservatives viewed the courts as a place where they didn't want to play.

And, you know, there were so many people telling us the Constitution is a living document.

And, you know,

the left kind of controlled the courts.

That's changing.

And thanks to President Trump, we actually have real judges who believe in law and order and what the law is, not what they want it to be.

And so we can be in that arena.

We can fight back and we can win.

And I think that's important lessons as we fight to hold on to this constitutional republic.

And, you know, as you were citing history and Ben Franklin walks out of the convention and says, what do you have?

He says, a republic if you can keep it.

So we have to be willing to fight on all fronts.

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from the Times of London.

Our columnist there, Melanie Phillips.

Hello, Melanie.

How are you?

Hello.

I'm very well, thank you.

Very nice to be speaking to you again.

Yeah, thank you, Melanie.

I'm a big fan of yours, and I want to get into liberal mindset here in a second, but I wanted to first touch on if you had any thoughts, I don't know if you had a chance to really sit down or even had a chance to really process it yet, of what's happened just over the weekend with President Trump meeting with Putin and then calling all of the world leaders to the White House.

I've never seen that happen before.

What was the real message or the impression that you took away from all of this?

Well, it was very comical to see all these leaders who really can't stand President Trump all lined up like school children with a headmaster.

I thought it was amusing

because, you know, he's the most consequential politician of our lifetime and in the world today.

And they have no option but to try and

manage this presidency and get on with him.

But they were there for obviously you know a particular reason.

They wanted to

support

President Zelensky, support his cause to the president

and to plead his cause really

that

President Trump should not rule Liz Zelensky over and basically hand him over as they would see it to surrender to President Putin.

And I think, I don't know whether those leaders had any particular influence.

I suspect very little.

But something has changed in President Trump's attitude, I think.

I think he's a bit chastened.

I mean, it seemed to me he was a little bit down after he had his meeting in Anchorage with Putin.

He was not in Brilliant.

He didn't have a press conference.

And I thought, you know, here he is coming up against the dead end of his President Trump's worldview, which is basically that every world leader is capable of being either threatened or bribed to do the deal.

And there are some leaders who cannot, who will not do that.

And there are some leaders with whom President Trump, I think, is going to find, is finding it very, very difficult.

And I think that was Bettis one.

And so in that mood, we saw when he met the world leaders and President Zelensky, we saw a bit of movement.

It may not amount to very much, but in a kind of mood music, first of all, you know, there was a great sort of show of amity, obviously very different from the last time President Zelensky was in the White House, which is disastrous.

So all sides were off their best behavior and all was kind of sweetness and light.

But the more consequential thing was that President Trump said, you know,

understand that the Europeans want to defend Europe against Putin, and if push comes to shut up, America will help them do it.

Now that's a very big change from President Trump's previous position.

It may not amount to very much in the short or medium term, but nevertheless it was a change of mood music.

Now we'll see how President Putin responds to what's being offered.

I would have thought that President Putin would not be very keen on

NATO stroke, the Europeans

being involved in the military defense of Ukraine at all.

He made it very clear that he won't put up with that.

So I would be surprised if he were to actually

be enthusiastic about this kind of deal, but we'll see.

It's obviously

high-stakes poker game, isn't it?

Yeah, it really is.

So it's weird that you would say this, because I didn't catch the downbeat, but

you may be right on that.

Did you

is it just American wishful thinking in a way that

I've never seen a president or really any world leader like this

call for a meeting like this and get everybody to sit around the desk exactly like a principal calling the teachers in and having a sit-down with all of them?

I've never seen that.

And

the image that I came away with is that

America is

leading again,

but not in the way where we are

threatening bombs and everything else, but

we're being the facilitator in a way of making this happen and bringing people together that I don't think would have ever come together for anybody else.

I just don't think it would have happened.

Is that wishful thinking on the American side?

On my side?

Absolutely right.

No, I think that's absolutely right.

I don't,

it's certainly unprecedented.

None of us ever seen anything like that before.

And I think it's a testimony to

President Trump's power.

And as I say, you know, he's the most consequential politician in the world today.

And

people feel they have to, you know, foreign leaders who don't like him even, feel they have to dance to his tune.

They are working out ways in which to manage him,

mainly through flattery.

Sir Kier Starmer, the British Prime Minister, I think, is particularly adept at this.

He seems to have made a friend of President Trump in the sense that President Trump has said warm things about him.

He seems to take a bit of a shine to him.

He's found a way, I think Kierstalma found a way of

getting through him on a personal level.

All that amounts to in the end, you know, probably not more than Hill of Beans,

but

it doesn't really impress me very much that all these world leaders are dancing attendance upon him.

I mean, it's interesting.

I say it's far family very

quite comical in a way.

But the important thing is, you know, what is President Trump going to do about President Putin and his attempt to destroy the integrity of Ukraine?

Does President Trump now believe that it is in America's interests

for President Putin to be pushed back?

Or does he still think that it's nothing to do with America?

And if Europe wants to do this, well, that's Europe's affair and it can jolly well get on with it.

It seems there's a bit of a change, but I don't know.

It would be a very big change.

But this is the question of, you know,

when Putin basically turns around and says to President Trump, you know, you can go and shove your

beast deal, as he may do, what is President Trump going to do then?

That's what matters to me, not these, not this spectacle of all these pathetic foreign ministers and presidents

coming and sitting.

You know, it's funny that you would say this because I read this

slightly different in that I think President Trump was changing

the

systems that had been set up since World War II.

And when he was saying, you know, NATO,

I don't know if NATO really matters anymore.

And, you know, you can do whatever you want.

We're not going to be involved.

I think that was to tell Europe, we're not paying the bill anymore, and we're not going to be the first to rush in and be the world's policemen anymore.

You've got to carry your own bags.

And when they started to carry their own bags,

I think that's, he was doing that to get them to carry some of the weight in their own bags.

And he does believe in a world order that

we help each other out on our allies.

So I think it's not as much of a change as it's a completion of the strategy.

Do you see any reason in that?

I think we're entirely right that he was trying to gee up.

the recalcitrant Europeans

stop just riding on America's coattails.

And I think he's entirely right to do that.

I think, you know, for decades,

the Europeans have just relied upon America being there

to support them militarily and in the defense of the free world without feeling that they have to step up to the plate themselves.

And I think I personally entirely agree with him.

That's entirely wrong.

But

obviously, you know much more about American politics and culture than I do.

But it seemed to me that when he became, when he was elected,

re-elected as president,

he was surrounded as he still is, by a number of people who I would call real isolationists

who really do believe that what goes on in Europe is of no concern to America.

It's not in America's interest to get involved.

The last thing they want is to expend love and treasure on anywhere in Europe because it has nothing to do with them.

And

this troubled me because I think that this kind of isolationism in America has a

long tail, a long historical tale.

And I think that, you know,

yes, America has got to put its own interests first, but it is in America's interests to restrain Putin.

To put it another way, if Putin were to

take over Ukraine,

I'm absolutely certain that he would see that as

the gateway to make further incursions into the old Soviet Union empire, because this man, Putin, believes that he's a kind of reincarnation of Peter the Great.

He believes in the restoration of the old Russian empire.

And if

America's isolationists

really do believe, if they really do believe that if that were to happen, happen, a resurgent Russian empire run by a man like Putin and the Communist Party would be of no,

would not put America in greater danger than it now is.

They must be living in cuckoo land.

And that's what I think President Trump was kind of leaning towards in his earlier weeks or months.

Because he really,

Melly,

I'm going to give a monologue here in just a minute, if I have time today, about America First.

And it's exactly on this.

I think that's a misreading of what Donald Trump was moving towards.

I think you're right.

He is surrounded by isolationists, but I think he was going for something different

because he does believe America needs to play a leadership role.

And that, you know, that means you're actually engaged in things.

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I want to give you

the two things that I think are the two messages that we should take from all of this.

America is truly once again in charge.

That's number one.

We are leading the world and we're not leading the world through military force.

We're not leading the world through

just words and projection of power.

We're leading the world because Donald Trump is actually going places and leading the world.

You know, when you look at

he's been saying here

over the last couple of days, you know, I stopped six wars.

Well,

yes and no, I guess.

You could say,

you know,

we could quibble over were these wars or were these just flare-ups, but I don't know anybody who has done more for world peace as a president

in just the last couple of months, in a two-month period.

I don't know of a president who has done more for world peace than Donald Trump.

Name anyone who is close.

If they're lucky, they'll solve one thing.

He has gone in six different times now, and not all of them are,

we're all having our fingers crossed that the Middle East and Iran is at least peaceful for a little while.

Same thing with Ukraine and Russia.

It's not done yet, but hopefully when it is done, it will last a while.

It's not going to be a forever peace.

But look at at what he did.

He stopped Pakistan and India

from having a nuclear war.

He is bringing peace to the world like I've never seen before.

And again, as I said, maybe for the first time in my lifetime, America is the global leader.

And

I think I say that because, well, I mean, Ronald Reagan was the global leader in the 1980s.

That's the last time that I think that would even be close.

But Ronald Reagan still had his detractors and they never came to the table.

You know, Ronald Reagan, his power came from

just the political prowess that he had here in America

and his just strength of will that he just wouldn't give up.

And then he also had Margaret Thatcher and the the Pope on his side.

This president really has not had anybody on his side, nobody on his side.

But you'll notice they're no longer taking him on and calling him a thug, a clown, a dictator, or anything else.

They're not calling him any of those things.

At least the world leaders, the European leaders, are no longer saying those things.

They're taking him seriously because he's actually getting things done.

So, A, America is in the leadership role.

Now, why is that one

worth

really

standing back and admiring for a minute?

Because every president,

every president has tried to reverse that.

Every president has been working on this new global coalition.

You notice he's not talking about,

this is what you hear from every president.

We have a global coalition.

We're cobbling together all these

states of the willing, all of these people who are coming together and they're willing to stand together.

Well, that's happening.

But Donald Trump is not setting out to get a global coalition.

He's leading the world.

And a coalition is forming around him.

And he's really not part of the coalition.

He's leading the coalition.

He's saying, we're not going to do this.

We're not doing this ourselves.

But let me show you how it can be done.

Now, you guys go and do it.

We're not providing the arms.

We're selling ammunition.

We're selling arms to the Europeans.

They want to do it.

They can do it.

So again, it's a different kind of leadership.

We are not the ones paying for it.

We're not the ones carrying all the weight on our shoulders.

He's saying, look, I can get this done, but then it's your job to do it.

It's not ours, it's yours.

That is unlike anything I have ever seen before.

Okay.

So while he is building coalitions, he's leading them.

He's not just another one of the coalition.

That's true leadership, especially in a time when the whole world has said for a long time now, and many of us believed, the era of America's leadership is over.

Is it?

Because it sure doesn't look like it to me now.

And that is, and that has been done in six months.

Finally, a guy who knows how to wield the power of the United States without being a bully.

Now, the second thing,

and

I don't think anybody really understands this.

I was in during the, was it 2007, 2008 election,

I went to the White House because I was called on the carpet by George W.

Bush because I was not happy with the war and the way it was going.

And I had made some comment about, I don't remember even what it was, but I had made some comment on the air that,

you know, hey, left, you want to impeach him?

Here's the thing you impeach him on, because this is actually impeachable.

And that didn't sit well with the Bush administration.

They didn't like that.

And I get a call on the way home from the studios, and it's the White House.

And this is the first time the White House had ever called me without me reaching out first.

And

I get a call, and it's a 202 number, and I'm like, It's 1414, 202, I can't remember, 458 or something, 1414.

And I remember 202, that's Washington, D.C., and 1414.

I remember that's the number of the White House.

And I look at it for a while and I'm like, I think that's the White House.

And I pick it up.

Mr.

Beck,

yes.

The president would like to see you in the oval tomorrow morning at 10.

Now I'm on the air at 10 o'clock in the morning.

Do you think you can make that?

I didn't even know what to say.

I literally held the phone away from my head and I looked at the, I'm driving, and I look at the phone and I look at the road and I don't even know what to say.

And I just,

you know, I said, well, hang on, let me check.

Let me check.

And I put the phone back up next to my ear and I'm like, okay, looks good.

Yeah, I can be there.

Hang up the phone.

It was freaky.

I get there.

And the first thing the president says, I sit in the chair, in the Zelensky chair.

And the first thing the president says to me is, and laced with profanity,

you know, a lot of people think they know how they can be the effing president.

Well, they have no effing idea how to be the effing president.

And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is going to be the longest hour of my life.

And he read me the Riot Act.

After that was all over and he had that out of his system, we stood up at the end, and

it was the day that Barack Obama had said that if he were president, he would just fly our planes over the border into Pakistan, and he would just bomb Pakistan.

Well, this is at the point where Pakistan is kind of helping us.

They're not our friends, they're more frenemies, but they're kind of helping us at this point.

And he says, Barack Obama says, you know, and if he would have done that, the whole, the whole coalition of the willing, all of that crap would have gone right out the window

and so i said to the president as i'm walking out and he's standing by the oval or by the uh resolute desk and i said um mr president i said uh i don't know if you heard this but today

barack obama and he said oh i heard that don't worry about that don't worry about that and i said okay and he said trust me gland

whoever comes into this office no matter what party they're in they're going to sit behind this desk

and they're going to realize because they're going to be advised by exactly the same people that have been advising me, that they really have no choice.

This is what they have to do.

And he said, have a good day.

And I'm like, holy cow.

I walked out and I, do you remember me calling you after that, Stu?

Yes.

And I was freaked out.

I was like, this is not good.

The president isn't really the president.

The president is just listening to all these advisors who were in advising the last president and the president before that, and it's all State Department stuff, and

they're just executing a long plan.

What difference does it make who we have in the office, if that's true?

Yeah,

one specific part of that that you didn't mention was because he was very angry at you, but that part of the conversation was meant to make you feel good.

Right?

It wasn't like an angry thing.

It was a, hey, it's okay.

Calm down.

All the decisions will remain the same and it's like that didn't calm you down much

no it made it worse yes and so

why do i bring this story up which i've told before why do i bring this story up i bring this story up because

when donald trump sat at the table and said

just gonna get old vlad on the phone and he stands up walks out of the room with all the world leaders and he just picks up the phone and calls Vladimir Putin and says, Hey, I just want to keep you up to speed.

What's going on?

He didn't ask for permission.

He didn't have anybody whispering in his ear.

He didn't, he's leading the State Department.

He's leading the world.

He's keeping his own counsel.

That hasn't been done by a president in I don't know how long.

And it's why we're once again the leaders of the world.

Because

these advisors, all of these doctors and professors and

people who have been in the State Department their whole life and know better than everybody, Donald Trump has said to them, shut up.

I've seen your record.

It doesn't work.

We've been doing it for 100 years.

We're losing credibility.

We're losing money.

We're losing power and influence.

I don't want to hear it.

This is the direction we're going.

And he didn't have the juice to be able to fire all of those people last time.

And he put the wrong people in position.

Now at the State Department is Rubio.

And I got to tell you, Rubio is one of the last guys I would have picked.

I would have thought Rubio was a big globalist.

Look at who Rubio has turned out to be.

So the two things that are happening are really...

are really based on one thing, and that is the President of the United States is in charge of his administration.

The President of the United States keeps his own counsel.

The President of the United States listens to his own gut for the first time that I have seen since Ronald Reagan.

And Ronald Reagan did it in one place, and that was the Soviet Union.

He knew the difference between good and evil, and he called it, and he didn't care what anybody said.

Donald Trump is doing this

in example after example after example.

He's keeping his own counsel and he is telling his people,

this is what I'm going to do.

Find the constitutional way to do it because this is what has to be done.

And he's not taking no for an answer and he's not kowtowing to the people who have been there forever.

Oh, Mr.

President, you have to listen to this man.

He's not listening to him.

If it doesn't make sense to him, he's not listening to him.

And he is not waiting for permission from anyone.

That's the takeaway from this last four days.

America is leading

because we actually have a leader who knows who he is, knows what he wants to do,

and is not going to take no for an answer unless it's unconstitutional.

He gets it done.

That in six months?

That's a remarkable development.

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