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The president was tweeting from Air Force One, high stakes, high stakes, and it is.
He's meeting Putin in Alaska.
And I mean, Nancy Pelosi,
I mean, would you please retire for the love of Pete?
Go have your pudding at your home and leave us alone.
She is, she's lost her mind.
I don't even know what she was talking about.
She's like, dad, I thought we were steak.
Wow, God,
I was the first one in Ukraine.
And you're like, well, okay, I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.
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Hello, Glenn.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Could you please translate into English what Nancy Pelosi was trying to say here?
Cut two.
Well, let's hope, but he said he was going to end it one day.
He hasn't done that.
But again, we want the
people of Ukraine, we commend them for fighting for democracy and in fighting for their democracy to they're fighting for ours as well.
They are fighting for democracy writ large.
It's taken a long time and he said he's going to do it in one day.
It's been, what, a hundred, whatever, how many days.
He hasn't done it yet.
I'm disappointed that he has not continued the military assistance because that has
been a problem for the Ukrainians.
But I wish him well on that.
I don't trust Putin at all.
I don't know what Putin has on the president, that he just
be coming to Alaska.
They shouldn't be going to Alaska.
Russia claims Alaska.
Russia claims it.
But nonetheless, it's happening.
We hope we'll be successful.
There's one thing more I want to say about this.
I follow this.
I was the first
official of America to go to Ukraine after Russia invaded.
That's great.
And I think she means that, you know, first American official back in the 1800s, perhaps, but I'm not really sure.
You know,
they claim Alaska.
Why would they go to Alaska?
Yeah.
You know who actually owns Alaska?
The United States of America.
Do you know who's going to fly that big, huge plane that has the American flag on it to the state of Alaska?
Our president.
So Putin has to go to a place where he thinks, you know, you know, Alaska should have been ours.
It should have been ours.
Yeah, you sold it for like, I don't know, a hundred grand, some ridiculous amount of money.
Yeah, you guys blew that one.
But welcome to the United States of America.
And one of those states is Alaska.
Here, have a seat.
We've pull up an ice cube.
I mean, I don't know why she thinks we shouldn't be sending him to Alaska.
I personally think it is exactly the right place.
It kind of sticks a finger in his eye myself.
And she's very disappointed that he hasn't continued the funding for the war.
And I say, Donald Trump, thank you for that.
Thank you for not continuing the funding for the war.
Is that even true, though?
We've been
there's been interruptions and pauses and alterations.
No, we're sending stuff over.
No, we're sending stuff over, but we're selling it to Europe.
And then Europe can send it there.
Europe is buying it from us.
And then they're sending it to Ukraine.
I'm fine.
I'm fine with selling arms to Ukraine.
That's okay.
That's all right.
You know, use them.
Use them.
I'm fine with selling arms to
Israel.
Use them.
I'm just not going to fight your war and I'm not going to spend the money on it.
It's your deal.
It's your deal.
If Europe wants to help out, I don't recommend it, Europe.
Have you looked at your balance sheet lately?
Have you looked at the condition you guys are in?
Probably not a good thing.
Jason is here to tell us what the strategy is for the president and the meeting with Vladimir Putin.
Yeah, it's several days.
I mean, well, this is...
I don't know.
This is at least a month in the making with Steve Witkoff going over and having conversations with Putin.
There's been a lot of back and forth.
First off, before that, no, to answer your questions, too, and as Glenn
explained, it's not true.
It's completely not true about not sending weapons.
They've been reauthorizing weapons for a couple of months now.
Wait, wait, wait.
But we're paying for it?
No, no, no.
We're not paying for it.
We're selling it exactly like you said.
Yeah, okay, good.
But just absolute ridiculous.
And again, it furthers that narrative of, I don't know what, you know, Putin has on it.
Shut up.
Oh, my gosh.
What does he have on it?
You know, I can't believe he hasn't done it in a day.
You know what?
You started it in a day.
I'm sorry we can't finish it in a day it would be nice that is what he said he would do but uh you guys screwed the world up so much that it's taking a little longer sorry about that but uh we're not going to follow your plan of sending them money which is laundered and we now know through a usaid and everything else it is laundered and we're losing all of that money we're not going to send any more money over there and we're not going to sell them arms or send them arms we'll sell them to the french And if the French want to buy them from us and send them over there,
that's their deal.
Yeah, well, at this point, I think if Nancy Pelosi wants to continue to contribute to this grand conspiracy that we're calling Russia Gate, which we get a new release, document dump almost every other day.
I know.
Keep perpetuating it.
Go ahead.
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, okay.
I have John Solomon on in about a half an hour.
I want to ask him about this.
But anyway, so what is the strategy here?
Well, so Witkoff is what, so
we're getting little tidbits of information from what Witkoff negotiated, but he kind of set the groundwork for it.
What it sounds like is what they, the, the big, uh, uh, thing that they were talking about was a ceasefire and at least opening the door for territorial concessions.
So basically what Russia has taken, it will then, you know, you know, be considered that that's their red line.
They're not going to give it up.
Right, but didn't Zelensky say he's, I'm not button up on that.
That's what Zelensky said.
And then it's kind of ridiculous.
Zelensky and the Europeans kind of got together.
They made a big statement.
I believe it was last week.
And they said the most ridiculous thing I had ever seen in my life.
I'm going to have to try and find the video.
But it said something along the lines of, you know, territory in this new day and age, you know, cannot be, you know, taken by the means of force.
I'm like.
That's how territory has been taken the entire history of the world.
Starting with the dinosaurs.
The dinosaurs moved in man moved out i'm sorry like we don't have to like it we don't have to say it's fair but that's called war and it happens so that's unbelievable that can't be like one of your restrictions or red lines in the conversation to get them together is oh we're just not talking about that because no that's a very big part of the of the of the of the uh of the talk well you know he's lost to people
Zelensky has lost the people.
Yeah.
At least, Stu, did you look into this poll at all over in Ukraine?
Because, I mean, you probably could figure out if it was, you know, bogus or not.
But there was a new poll out that shows that the people beginning in Russia and also in Ukraine, but more pronounced in Ukraine, they're done with the war.
They would just want an end to it.
Yeah, that is, that's what they definitely want an end to the war.
I think, I thought where you were going to go was the sort of faith in Zelensky at the head of Ukraine, which that has faded quite a bit.
I mean, at the beginning, he was incredibly popular and was popular even into a period where some in the United States were falling away from him.
But that popularity has fallen to.
He's basically a normal politician now with a divided country.
So that's a good, just what we need.
I mean, the country, of course, still really hates Russia and really hates what happened there, but they do want it over.
There is
not a lot that I've seen as far as
wide-scale multiple polls that show that they want to give up territory to end it.
I mean, I don't think that's what they're looking to do, but that is the reality probably.
Jason, what was,
remember the episode we did,
it was years ago, and I talked about how war, I remember I said the last phase is war, because when you start a war, by the time you've fought it for several years and your life is just, you just want it to stop and you will forget about what it was before, at least at the end.
When you're negotiating a deal, you're just like, I want this just to end.
And so that's the chance to change the currencies.
That's the chance to change borders and everything else because the people are so fatigued by war.
That's that's how you make giant changes in the world.
And it's, I mean, it's been the plan from the very beginning.
It was a plan of World War I.
It was a plan of World War II.
You just fight it out and keep dragging it on.
And eventually people are like, okay, okay, I just want this to stop.
And you never go back to what you were.
Right.
It's a very dangerous time.
And I'll even extrapolate that even further.
That's also, you know, their strategy over COVID.
It was the exact same thing.
Yes, it was.
There's a reason why they always like, when they were talking about COVID and all the things they were changing at the time, the great reset, there's a reason why they kept on hearkening back to Bretton Woods.
Remember, they kept saying that.
the new global rules-based order that was established after World War II.
Yep.
Because exactly what you said, people were just tired of it.
We'll accept anything at this moment.
Whatever.
We don't care.
Can we just have some normalcy?
Yeah.
That is exactly where I think the Ukrainian people are.
I think that is where Donald Trump is approaching
Putin and Ukraine on.
You know, I heard a report today that, you know, Donald Trump is gunning for the Nobel Prize.
He could cure cancer, which, by the way, Joe Biden is still working on.
He could cure cancer.
He could stop all wars.
They're not going to give him a Nobel Prize.
It just won't happen.
You know, maybe, you know,
Teddy Roosevelt got one, a Nobel Prize, but it was like, I don't know, a hundred years after he was dead.
We're not even talking about some of the things that he has done that would go towards that.
India, Pakistan seems like,
did that happen?
Like, no one even talks about it.
He was directly involved.
Azerbaijan and Armenia.
That has been going on.
That's been going on forever.
They've been slaughtering the Armenians and the Christians over in Armenia forever.
And I mean, it was horrible.
We couldn't get anybody in Washington to even talk about it, let alone go over and solve it.
He solves it.
Yeah.
And contrast that with Obama, who it was just an idea.
Like didn't even do anything.
They're like, ah, screw it.
Let's just give it to him.
It's really,
it's really amazing what he has done.
You know, politically speaking, however,
he has got to fix the economy.
You know, you could solve every war.
You could solve the crime thing.
You could solve the border, which he's on the road for all of those things.
But if he doesn't, if people are still worried about their grocery bill, it's just not going to, it's not going to, it's not won't bode well.
And I'm telling you, these people, if they get back into power, I mean, who was it?
Was it Blumenthal?
Who was it that came out and said, you know, when we win the midterms, there's one word that's guiding us, impeachment.
And I thought, oh, that'll even make you even more popular.
That'll just make you more popular with the people of the United States.
I think people are so done with all of this.
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Stu, I'd love your opinion on this.
I think the American people are so done
with all of this back and forth,
especially the stuff like Betto is doing right now.
You know, we've got to redistrict.
Look at what's happening in California.
The polls now are showing that even the California Democrats are saying, no, we don't want your redistricting.
We have it all set up.
No to redistricting.
The Democrats are saying that.
And I think that's because everybody's like, we've got, I don't know, a whole town that's burned down that nobody's doing anything about it.
We've got homelessness.
We have crime.
We have, you know, our kids are going to schools that are indoctrination camps.
you know, watching big fat men pretend to be women.
Enough is enough.
I think people have had it.
And on both sides, people want to start talking about things that are real, things that will actually affect them.
I think that's why what Donald Trump is doing in Washington, D.C.
is so smart.
He's not doing it for political reasons.
I should say alone.
Let's not say that he's a saint.
But I do believe he wants to clean up Washington, D.C.
because he knows he can.
He knows he can.
Yeah, and this also does set him up politically very nicely, right?
To have an argument about, hey, I think Washington, D.C.
is bad and dangerous, and you are saying the opposite.
Like, that's a good place.
You want to be on Donald Trump's side of that argument.
I do think, though, if we kind of step back a little bit,
and you said this a million times, Glenn, the American people generally, even, you know, most, not AOC left, not Antifa left, but like even Democrats generally want want the, they want to believe the world is, is, is, and their country is being run by a set of rules.
We're Americans, and there is that is still fundamentally inside most Americans.
The Democrats are, I believe, currently
betting that they can convince those people that this is so bad, what is happening is so egregious and so terrible, and Donald Trump is so awful, and Donald Trump is Hitler, and Donald Trump is a fascist, and all these things, that they can get them to the side of where it's time to break the rules.
It's time for chaos.
It's time for this.
I mean, Betto's doing it.
You know, Gavin Newsom is in the middle of doing it.
I mean, they have a
theoretically nonpartisan redistricting committee in California, which has been incredibly beneficial, shockingly, for the Democrats.
Yeah, it's very, very non-partial.
Regardless of that.
If 40% of the votes go to the Republicans, they have 17% of the representation.
Pretty extreme.
And there are other factors involved in that, but it's pretty extreme.
What they are betting on is that they can convince, and Gavin Newsom, this is his 2028 presidential campaign in action right now, is he can convince people that things are so bad, you have to do all these crazy things.
You have to break all the rules.
You have to ignore the Constitution.
You have to do all these things.
They've attempted this before and failed with the American people.
Whether this time it will work, I don't know, but that I think is their bet.
I mean,
I think they know right now this isn't going to be incredibly popular with everybody right off the bat.
As you point out, I think it's 60% of Democrats are opposing this law change in California, which would be a prerequisite to being able to redistrict in the way that they want to do it.
But I think they think they'll wear people down over time.
Over time, they'll be able to convince them.
There is another force that's working against them now, and that is the force of
their communities falling apart.
Yeah.
You can listen to somebody when you have the luxury of worrying about, you know,
redistricting in your seats and everything else, when you have the luxury to worry about, you know, I think we need more DEI,
that's because everything else in the country is going relatively well.
You know what I mean?
You're fat, you're sassy.
If you are a country that you're worried about your safety, you're worried about your children's safety, you're worried about getting food on the table and your job, that's what you care about.
And anybody who's talking about that wins.
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I want to play something from 2017, a quick flashback
from a Senate hearing with FBI Director James Comey.
Listen.
Director Comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
Never.
Question two on
relatively related.
Have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
No.
Has any classified information relating to President Trump or his
associates been declassified and shared with the media?
Not to my knowledge.
Is there an investigation of any leaks of classified information relating to Mr.
Trump or his associates?
I don't want to answer that question, Senator, for reasons I think you know.
There have been a variety of
leaks.
Well, leaks are always a problem, but especially in the last three to six months.
And where there is a leak of classified information, the FBI, if it's our information, makes a referral to the Department of Justice, or if it's another agency's information, they do the same, and then DOJ authorizes the opening of an investigation.
I don't want to confirm in an open setting whether there are any investigations open.
Wow.
Listen to that.
I mean, this guy is in deep trouble.
We have John Solomon with us from Just the News.
John.
Good to be with you.
That, I haven't heard that.
My staff put that together.
I remember it well.
Uh-huh.
That is not good.
That's everything that he said.
We now know verified is a lie.
Yeah, listen, I think it's going to get worse.
I think there were in the documents I put out last week some information that was redacted by the Justice Department from the FBI documents.
I think the redactions on that information could be lifted by the end of next week.
And I think we will see even more evidence of Comey's media and leaking strategy.
And it may come from some of the most surprising sources.
So we already have his right-hand PR man,
Mr.
Richmond, who was a
lawyer at Columbia University, very clearly saying that he was asked by Comey to burnish Comey's image and to work with the media.
And he clearly had a conversation with a reporter about classified information.
And he gave one of, I think, one of the greatest non-denial denials we're ever going to remember in Washington history, right up there with Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky denial, depending on what the meaning of the word is, is.
We all remember that famous Dodge.
When Richmond was asked, did he leak the information that the reporter published right after he talked to him and right after Comey had given Richmond the intelligence, he said, I'm pretty sure I didn't confirm it.
And I'm sure, comma, with a discount, comma, I didn't give him the information.
I'm sure with a discount.
I guess.
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Yeah, the FBI clearly thought it meant that you're going to have to give me a little wiggle room on my answer here.
So, and that's not what that's what it means when you, you know, I'll buy that.
Sure, I'll buy that for a discount.
Yeah, you've got to take a little bit off of it.
So
that's how the FBI took it at the end of the day.
There was a Justice Department, both under
President Obama and President Trump 1 that wasn't willing to pursue the evidence that sits in these leak documents.
And I think most of those leaks are going to be unpunishable at this point.
Hey, John, Jason Budgell here.
I'm Glenn's chief researcher.
Huge fan of yours.
I was reading through that document.
I think it was like 266 pages.
And it was talking about leaks from Adam Schiff.
It was talking about leaks through Daniel Richmond, that Columbia University professor.
All these different leaks.
And the FBI would end those different segments within that document with, we decided not to go forward, we decided to close the investigation.
How?
How in the world were they just closing all these investigations and not finding information that would lead to an indictment?
Does it make sense to you?
It makes no sense to me.
Well, it makes sense in this respect.
Every time they went to the Justice Department, the U.S.
Attorney that had prosecutive authority that our prosecutors wouldn't prosecute, right?
I mean, that is,
I started my career as a sports writer, and I remember one of the great defenses of all time, the steel curtain of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
There was a steel curtain around James Comey, and anyone who went after Trump, any Democrat that had a criminal problem, whether it was Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, his classified documents, every time the FBI went to get the sort of normal prosecutive help they get all day long from the U.S.
attorneys, the answer was, no, we're not going to help you.
See you later.
Decline.
And you see now in these documents a very powerful dual system of justice.
Does this have anything to do with the fact that we cannot get new U.S.
attorneys confirmed?
I think they the I don't think this is a most of the crimes here are beyond the statute.
There's one statute that allows a 10-year willful prosecution on classified information, the Adam Schiff,
many of the legal experts I talked about based on the whistleblower.
If that whistleblower's account could be verified, Adam Schiff might still face a knowing and willful violation.
But most of these are done.
So the Democrats aren't putting their foot out to trip up these U.S.
attorneys because they think these guys are going to get prosecuted.
They're putting their foot out because they don't want Donald Trump to succeed at anything.
They would love to see chaos on the streets and be able to blame him for that.
So what better way to do that than not allow them to have judges and prosecutors who could do the job that the American people need done.
And so I think
their obstruction is much larger than just protecting themselves on the 2016, 2017 racket.
But does this testimony, while it's out of statute of limitations, doesn't this play right into the grand conspiracy?
That is where there's a strong possibility.
Listen, that's a complicated case.
You never know how a grand jury will digest it.
But there is a strong, they're already underway.
I confirmed this this week.
There are grand juries currently collecting evidence in multiple jurisdictions in Pennsylvania, in Virginia, and in New York.
So the work of gathering the evidence and securing it, which sometimes is missing.
In the Adam Schiff file, one of the most extraordinary things, the FBI clearly had grave concerns.
They interviewed the whistleblower four times.
They knew this was serious stuff.
But
when they went to go say, hey, Adam Schiff, we got to get your staffers to talk to us, they said, we're not going to talk to you.
We were protected by the bait and speech clause.
And the Justice Department wasn't willing, under Donald Trump to pierce that claim, which I think is pretty tenuous from the legal experts I've talked to.
So you just see every time the FBI follows the lead, they get to a certain point, and then it's the Justice Department that really is the Department of Injustice.
It is simply not allowing FBI agents to complete investigations that would embarrass the deep state or the Democratic elites or their friends in the government who carried their water in 16 and 17.
I just talked to the author who exposed Raven 23 and got those guys out of prison.
And, you know, I said, what happened to all of the prosecutors and the FBI and the people in the State Department?
She said, oh, they're all still there.
Nobody's learning any lesson at all.
Is the DOJ doing enough?
There is a transition underway in the Justice Department, and I think the jury is out on Pam Badi's tenure.
Obviously, bumpy start with Epstein.
I think in the grand conspiracy case, there is a sign that they're doing it just the way they used to do it in the 1980s when the Justice Department was at its heyday and it took down
the mob and it took down the early drug cartels.
When you have a grand conspiracy case, you start with an FBI predicate.
That happened.
Then you create a strike force, something we haven't used in a long time, but strike forces are very effective prosecutive tools.
She did that, and then she authorized the use of grand juries.
So they're following the playbook, the non-political playbook, the way the Justice Department is supposed to act.
Whether she succeeds or not is a long way out on the investigation on cleaning out a house, they've cleaned out a lot.
They're very short of prosecutors right now.
There are career positions that are open, and almost all the U.S.
attorneys are open.
So until those positions fill in a little bit, there is a limitation to what can be succeeded.
But you see in the last couple of days in the District of Columbia how quickly the Justice Department and the FBI could clean up some pretty bad guys off the street real quickly.
They're doing a lot of things.
They're being asked to do a lot more than what they have resources for now.
And I think over the next six months, we'll know whether they get resourced enough and whether they have the toughness, the tenacity to fight this fight.
They're going to go up against the best lawyers the Democrats can throw at this, the $1,500 an hour lawyers.
And the question is: can the government defeat them in the courts?
And that is
a verdict yet to be written.
FBI cleaned up enough?
They're moving pretty quickly.
Yeah, there is.
I will tell you, there is a significant
tenor in the voices of the agents I've known for a long time when I talk to.
They feel like they're allowed to go investigate crimes and that there's no politics anymore.
And when they predicate a case, it goes.
And I think that Cash Patel has very quickly changed the mindset.
They're still craning out people.
Sometimes, you know, one of the interesting things people ask me about this, why those two guys, guys, why was Cash Patel holding on to the two guys?
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my best friend, which is you want to know for a while from people you got on the meat hook, where are the bodies buried?
What was going on here?
Your job depends on you telling me the truth.
And so some of the people that I think Cash Patel kept around for a while was to really interrogate them and find out how bad was it.
And it was those efforts that found the secret room where some of the evidence was, the burn bags that they found.
So that was a productive time.
And then I think when that exercise was over,
those agents leave as well.
But there are some really significant signs in talking to people that the FBI is a different organization today than it was just a few short years ago.
And
last question on this.
What's coming next?
And when should we expect it?
I think round two of what we're going to learn about Comey is going to be pretty eye-opening.
I think we're going to get a strong sense that maybe there was better evidence and more explosive witnesses against him.
It's just an inkling I have based on the way the documents are redacted.
So we're going to keep working that to get those redactions lifted.
I think the Justice Department is going to do the right thing for the public.
And that's going to be important.
We'll be able to get the complete picture of James Comey.
And then I think there are a couple of other big shoes to fall.
I think another place that has to be cleaned out is the intelligence team.
That has been a slower process.
The FBI is cleaned out much quicker than the CIA and the ODNI, but I would be watching for Tulsi Gabbard to unleash in the next couple of weeks the most sweeping cutback of the U.S.
intelligence committee you've ever seen.
You're going to shrink it down so that they don't have time to do politics.
They only have time to do national security threats.
That's going to be a major, major moment in the history of our intelligence weaponization concerns.
Hey, John, Jason again, Glenn's chief researcher.
I haven't felt this overwhelmed with the barrage of information we're getting since I think I was looking at your Ukraine leaks.
You gave me about
probably two weeks straight, 24 hours a day straight of just going through all the stuff you were foying and everything.
Have you ever been so overwhelmed with all these releases like since then?
It's just been insane.
Yeah, listen, the velocity of action in Washington is unprecedented.
I've never seen in the 35 years I've been in this town this much speed, this much things going on.
There are major news stories every four to six hours, and there are major releases of documents.
What it tells you is that when the president said he believes in transparency and is going to impose it, which by the way, he said all through the first campaign, first presidency, but he didn't have people around him who had the courage and tenacity to overcome the resistance and do it.
He's got that team now.
Tulsi Cabert, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, to her credit,
she's not afraid to release anything that will give the public a sense of how bad it is.
Radcliffe has been a little bit more hesitant.
I know he resisted on some things, but they have a group now that is really committed to getting the story out.
And the beginning of the process is: if you're going to prosecute your old enemies who did these terrible things, you've got to build public will behind it.
You've got to make the case to the public so that they're not hoodwinked by the Democrats to think, oh, this is just retribution.
They're doing it in a very sophisticated way, but it is, it can be overwhelming.
It's a lot of paper.
For me, it's like being in an amusement park.
I mean, it's an amazing operation.
No, it's Christmas every day.
Christmas every day.
It is.
John, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
I love it.
Yep.
God bless you.
You bet.
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Putin hasn't been to the United States since 2007 at the United Nations.
And it's not like he's a respected and beloved figure here.
You know, you see him walking down the street, you'd be kind of like, is that Vladimir Putin?
And everybody's saying that, you know, this is a big win for Putin coming to Alaska.
I don't think so.
And Stu, do you agree or disagree?
Yeah, I mean, I get the argument, right?
Like, I mean, it's so he's being, there's, the argument is that he's being treated as an equal, right, to Donald Trump, a guy who, you know,
the leader of the free world as opposed to this guy who invaded his neighbor and blah, blah, blah.
And I get that argument, but like, I just, I don't, I mean, we're telling him to come to our turf, right?
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You come here.
Like, I was waiting for you to go to the house.
And it's not like we're taking him to, you know, West Palm,
taking him to the beautiful beaches of California.
We're like, I mean, who thinks they're being really respected when they're like, we'll have a meeting, but only in Anchorage, Alaska?
On a military base, right?
Like, on a military base.
Not even the pretty parts of Alaska.
You can't even go to the basement.
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I don't know.
I'm not too won over by that particular part of this argument.
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Well, it's a big weekend for the president.
He is up in Alaska with Vladimir Putin.
There was this great article in the Free Press recently from Matthew Cotnetti, and
he said, Trump gained the upper hand through the new energy policy here in America, bringing NATO together and just pounding them together,
and the use of force against Iran changed all the dynamics.
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I think going contrary to what everybody in the mainstream media is saying, they're saying, oh, he's bringing him over to Alaska, and that's such a win for Putin.
I don't think it's a win at all for Putin.
And it has taken him more than one day
because he had to change the dynamics of American policy and, I think, the policies of the world.
And you point that out in your article.
You want to go a little deeper into that?
Oh, sure.
Absolutely.
No, I think that Trump is going to this summit today in Anchorage with a lot of leverage over Vladimir Putin.
And you're right.
The mainstream media
wants already to characterize this as a win for Putin because there's a meeting taking place at all.
But I think this fundamentally misunderstands President Trump.
President Trump wants to meet anybody.
He doesn't care.
He's happy to talk to anybody.
The question is always what will come out.
And if you remember, he met with Kim Jong-un
twice.
And in Hanoi, when Kim Jong-un just wouldn't give up concessions on his nuclear program, Trump walked away.
So that could easily happen this time.
But I think the overall dynamic changed in just the past few months.
The first step was getting Ukraine on board a proposal for a 30-day ceasefire on the ground and in the air.
And as we know, you know, Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, was reluctant even to sign on to that before that Oval Office dust up earlier this year.
But Zelensky got on board, and that meant that Trump could then go and say to Europe, Let's get additional leverage by agreeing to increasing our defense budgets.
And then Trump agreed to this deal where NATO will purchase weapons from the United States.
We're not spending any money.
We're getting the money from Europe for these weapons.
And then Europe would hand the weapons to Ukraine.
That definitely got Putin's attention, as did our successful strike against Iran's nuclear program
in June.
Remember,
Iran is a Russian ally.
Iran has been supplying a lot of those drones that are raining down on Ukrainian cities.
And we basically took Iran out.
I mean,
Israel helped quite a bit, of course, in the 12-day war.
But so we've slowly ratcheted up the pressure on Putin thanks to President Trump's policies.
The most recent one was this 50% tariff on India.
Now, we might say, well, what does that have to do with Ukraine and Russia?
Well, India is a huge purchaser of Russian energy.
And so when Trump says, look, we're going to punish third parties that are financing the Russian war effort, well, that's when Putin said, look, I'd like to talk to you directly.
Wow.
You know, I've been trying to figure out the
India angle because India is a huge trade partner and we really want them on our side.
That makes a lot of sense.
So if they stop
purchasing the Russian oil, then that trade barrier comes down.
Absolutely.
I mean, this is how President Trump uses tariffs.
Sure, he likes them for a variety of reasons.
They raise revenue for the government.
They want to incentivize foreign investment to build factories in the United States.
But he
likes them in particular because they're a way that he can use America's economic might to get results in the foreign policy sphere.
And in this case, you're exactly right.
The tariff is going on India because of the purchases of Russian oil.
If they said we're going to reduce those purchases, then the tariff would come off.
Let's not forget, too, the energy sector is hurting in Russia.
That's really Russia's main source of economic growth and government revenue.
And oil has declined some 19% year over year since Trump has taken office.
That's partly because of Trump's energy policy, the drill baby drill policy.
That's freed up supply.
And of course, more supply means lower price.
And that hurts Vladimir Putin as well.
They have like, I think it's when it goes, what is it, below $80 a barrel,
they have to start dipping into reserves.
They can't afford it.
Yeah, and I think when it crosses 60, goes under 60, then they really start to hurt.
Right.
Hey, Matthew, Jason Butchell here, Glenn's chief researcher.
There's been a lot of,
I guess, word from the Europeans, Ukrainians, even the Russians talking about territorial concessions and like that's everybody's red line.
Do you think with some of the setup discussions with Witkoff, with Putin earlier, do you think that there's any
room for
leeway here?
Do you think that possibly Trump might have an upper hand with that as well?
Or will we see anything when that's always the huge red line between the two?
Right.
Well, I think the
administration may have gotten a little bit ahead of itself right after Witkoff's meeting when you heard the president mention these land swaps.
Very quickly, President Zelensky said, well, whoa, I'm not ready for that.
And then the Europeans also said, well, we need to be part of the tables.
Well, Since then, in the days leading up to today's summit, Trump has been very careful to lower expectations.
He's said that this is a feeling out meeting.
Caroline Levitt called it a listening session.
Trump has said, look, if Putin's not ready for a ceasefire, then I'm going to leave.
And he's also said this is just the first meeting.
He's been very clear in the past several days that any settlement, a settlement that would probably include some type of territorial lines being drawn, would only happen in a meeting between Russia, the United States, and Ukraine.
And then, as President Trump said the other day, maybe he'd invite some Europeans to the meeting as well.
So I think that
we heard that land swap talk early on, but in the days since, I think the President has had a much more realistic view of what might be attainable in this first meeting with Vladimir Putin.
Remember, he hasn't met Putin in person since 2018.
So I think he wants to get a direct sense of Putin's body language and psychology.
That's important for the president, you know, because
I've kind of studied some of the deals that he has done in the last, you know,
15 years on land and as, you know, Trump,
you know, as a company.
And there's a story about when he was trying to sell the New York Plaza and he met with the Japanese people and it was all arranged.
All they had to do is just close the deal with him.
And he got into the room and he spent maybe three or four minutes talking and listening to them.
Within five minutes, he had changed the deal and said, you know what, I'm building something over on the East River
or the West Side Highway that I think you're really going to like.
And he started, and everybody on his team, when they broke, they said, what are you doing?
He's like, they're not interested in
the plaza.
He's like, I can tell right away, we're not going to be able to close that deal.
I switched to this deal.
So him face to face, there's something about him when he's negotiating face-to-face.
He feels the room clearly that even his closest advisors can't translate and can't give him.
Do you agree with that?
Oh, I agree completely.
I mean, he makes very gut decisions based on people's appearances, based on people's body language.
Are they fidgeting?
What sort of health are they in?
And these are things that are hard to assess over the phone and even hard to assess when you have an intelligence briefer there.
Trump, of course, always wants to see for himself.
And so that's why I really do think that this meeting will be exploratory.
Remember, too, you know, Trump has had this string of diplomatic success during his second term.
Just last week, he presided over the deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the White House.
And that was very important as well, because that part of the world, the Caucasus, has always been considered part of the Russian sphere of influence.
And here we have two nations from that part of the world not going to Moscow, but going to the White House and shaking hands with President Trump to arrange a deal.
And that Putin there too is saying, okay, I'm losing my influence not just in Europe, where, of course, NATO has expanded rather than contracted since the Ukraine invasion, but even in my own backyard, we have these nations, Armenia and Azerbaijan, looking to Trump.
And then, of course, we have the recent flare-up between Thailand and Cambodia that Trump was able to stop from escalating out of control.
Earlier in the year, India and Pakistan, the same thing.
These sort of agreements that Trump has been able to marshal, preside over, use our economic leverage to obtain, I think is one reason he wants to have this meeting with Putin because he's beginning to understand his method of bringing the two sides to the table and forging an agreement.
We're talking to Matthew Continetti.
He's with AEI.
He's a senior fellow and also a columnist for the Free Press.
Matthew,
I don't think
anybody today really gives him the credit that he deserves as a master negotiator.
You know, he was known as that in business, but what he's done in the last seven months to the world and changing the dynamics of the world and bring all these people together, you know, he's never going to get a Nobel Peace Prize.
Uh, you know, everybody's like, somebody's going to nominate him.
Well, yeah, uh-huh.
And, you know, let's watch that happen.
Do you think
at some point,
assuming all these things continue to hold and he continues this trend?
I mean, he could be one of the greatest peacemakers in American history.
I think so.
I think he's taking a real lesson from Theodore Roosevelt, you know, who
won the Nobel Prize 100 years after he died.
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, Teddy Roosevelt's foreign policy was gunboat diplomacy, right?
No.
No regime change and nation building.
Gunboat diplomacy, you have a strong military.
You might have to do a raid every now and then, like we just did against the Iranian nuclear infrastructure, but also mediation.
Theodore Roosevelt wanted the United States to mediate between different powers and get them to the table.
And I see that working in Trump's foreign policy as well.
You know, and let's not forget, even in his first term, he had the Abraham Accords between Israel and several Arab nations.
And so you're right, Glenn.
He is a peacemaker.
And I think even though he won't get any credit from the liberal media now, the test of time will, I think, ensure his legacy.
Because, you know, going back to the first term with the Abraham Accords, the Biden administration, which followed him, never really gave Trump any credit, but they also didn't do anything to disturb the Abraham Accords or, in effect, wanted to try to expand them just as Trump wants to do right now.
So I think what he's doing is building a foundation that will last.
And I also hope
he's teaching lessons that future presidents can take to heart.
America can use our economic power in a way to obtain peace agreements, to make sure that our position is maximized in different negotiations.
We don't always have to resort to military force, even as we keep it as an option in a case like the Iranian nuclear threat.
Matthew, thank you for the the insight.
Appreciate it.
Wait, wait, before you go, one more thing.
Expecting anything to come out of this?
I have pretty low expectations, Glenn.
I think there's a chance we may get some sort of ceasefire, but I wouldn't bet the ranch on it.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Thank you very much, Matthew.
We'll talk again.
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Stu, I'm kind of expecting the same thing as Matthew,
that not anything's going to come out.
Here's what's going to come out of it.
NBC, ABC, CNN, all over.
The president failed over the weekend to get anything done right because he was just, he may have given away Alaska.
And Vladimir Putin even made money.
He with selling snow cones in Alaska over the weekend.
That's what you're going to hear.
Well, and you also got
President Prime Minister's going to end this war on day one.
And that's the one.
President Nancy Pelosi.
Yeah.
I know it only took you guys a day to start the war,
you know, but it does take a little longer to end the war, apparently.
I thought President, if anybody could have ended it in a day, it was President Trump.
However, the more we look in and the more we find out about the Russiagate, I'd love to hear your opinion on this, Jason.
The more we hear about Russia gate, the more I think Putin didn't go in because of the lack of
power, if you will, from Joe Biden.
Because that's what I thought.
Donald Trump was such a strong guy.
He's never going to do it.
I think he could go in because he knew that he was, you know, Biden was a weenie,
but also
because he knew what that group of people had done to Ukraine and to him prior to that we're now fighting.
And he's like, I'm not putting up with that.
You're not.
I'm not going to give you another opportunity to screw me.
I think that's what happened.
Do you agree with that at all?
Well, yeah, it's a huge part of it.
I mean, the left were, they were the ones that were delivering the reset button.
You remember that to the Russians?
But at the same time, they knew that they were conspiring in Ukraine.
They were doing all these different things.
And then they would launch this huge, you know, you know, weaponized, you know, narrative campaign to blame the Russians for everything going bad for Democrat politics back in the United States.
So, I mean, it's a huge shift that the Russians are even now even willing to talk to us.
Because of every the damage the Democrats did,
our adversary wouldn't even talk to us.
Now, since the first time since, what is it, 2007 in a non-UN related visit, he's actually coming to the United States to talk to us.
That in itself speaks volumes right there.
And meanwhile, things are out of control in Europe.
We're going to go to this next.
Do we have that clip and play just a little bit of this clip?
Because I know we're running out of time.
But there's this clip that was from GB News in
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So I saw this report on GB News.
GB News is
just a great news outlet in Great Britain, independent and conservative and
allowing voices to be heard.
You know, Great Britain and Europe does not have talk radio.
They don't have the freedoms that we have.
They just don't have them.
And GB News is making, I think, a huge impact over in England.
But I saw a report
about how
these anti-migrant parties and these
extreme, right, right, right, right, crazy Nazis, even worse than the Nazis kind of parties are all
starting to win in all of the polls.
And I think people of Europe and in Great Britain may be getting very close to saying enough is enough.
We'll see.
Nicholas Dunning is with us.
Nick.
Thanks for your report.
And can you tell us what's happening?
And is it real?
yeah thank you for having me so i think the main issue that we're starting to see here is that europeans might have had enough of the liberal consensus on immigration and also european integration which might not be something that you cover so much over there in the states um so in the uk we have reform uk which is led by nigel farage who is the guy who won brexit around the time that Trump was elected and they are leading on 31% in the polls in the UK.
It's well within the realm of possibility that they could win a majority in the House of Commons in 2029 at the next election.
That would be equivalent to, in the US, a party coming in and destroying the Republicans and the Democrats at the same time.
That would end 100 years of Labour-Conservative rule.
It would be unprecedented once in 100-year
event.
In France, for the first time in the Fifth Republic, you've got the national rally led by Marine Le Pen.
She's polling at 36%.
They actually won the legislative elections last year, although they didn't have enough for
a majority.
And
she was leading in the presidential polls, but for now she's barred.
We're waiting to see if she can appeal that.
In Italy, you've got the national rally.
Sorry, in Italy, you've got Brothers of Italy.
They're polling at 29%.
And actually, they're already in power, albeit in a coalition led by Giorgio Maloney.
And then finally, in Germany, you've got the alternative for Germany on 26%
and that's the interesting one because Germany has this history obviously of not wanting to go too far to the right because of what happened in the Second World War.
I think people thought that maybe there would be a lid on voters taking a risk but it seems that that lid has kind of been lifted and they have a Conservative Prime Minister who a Chancellor who's only been in office for 100 days yet for the first time this week the alternative for Germany have overtaken him in the polls.
Wow, that's amazing.
Now, I saw a report, and it may have been from you guys,
I saw a report that said
that this might be the end of the EU experiment, which I would celebrate myself,
you know, freedom to every one of these countries and stop this.
nonsense that the people are the people are being destroyed and the country's cultures are all being destroyed.
You know,
America used to be a very different place.
Even when I was growing up, you'd go from state to state and it would be very different.
Now it's just the same wherever you go.
Just the mountains are different.
And here in Europe, I think they're doing the same thing and trying to.
And
it's really bad.
But with that,
if that's really a possibility,
is that going to be allowed to happen?
Well, the EU has a strange structure.
So
if you think of it, if I can try and relate it to the way the US works, you have your states, which are the European countries, and then you have your federal government, as you do in the US.
But
in Europe, you have the
individual countries who get together and they work with the Commission, which is an unelected body that basically just dishes out lots of rules that every country has to follow.
So you'll have that,
if you have Eurosceptic and anti-migrant parties coming to power at the same time, then they will probably be able to overrule the coalition and start unwinding some of these rules.
The thing is, a lot of these parties are talked about as though they're anti-migrant parties because that's the narrative now.
But a lot of them started as being
rejecting European integration.
I mean, reform in the UK, that was largely came about because it was about Brexit.
It was about leaving the European Union.
Marine Le Pen was always about leaving the European Union and dropping the Euro, which she has dropped that now, but it's clear that her bias is against the Euro.
Georgia Maloney came up in Italy
bemoaning the effect of the single currency on her country.
And the AFD, the alternative for Germany, was actually founded because of its opposition to the Euro.
Because there was, after the financial crisis in 2008, it fell on Germany to bail out basically all of southern Europe to the detriment of its taxpayers.
But aren't these the same kind of people people?
Aren't these the same kind of issues, though?
I mean, when you boil it all down,
what the people are saying is we don't want to
be following a bunch of unelected officials that we feel are destroying our livelihoods, our lives,
you know, dictating everything.
And now
it's not that they're anti-immigrant, I don't think.
It's that
they like, this doesn't make any sense.
It's destroying destroying our cities.
It's destroying our culture.
So we just want our countries back.
Yeah, with the, well, what I was going to say, the issues in a way, they're kind of tied in.
We're being anti-EU, being anti-migrant.
It's about people wanting to feel represented by the people in power and that they have their national interests.
interests at heart.
So far, you know, we have had countries in the EU where they've had a Eurosceptic government, but the rest of the main countries in the EU have been pro-Europe, and so they've moved to suppress that country or punish them.
That's what happened with Britain in many people's eyes when it left the European Union.
But if you have France and Germany especially, the most influential within the EU now that Britain's left, if you have parties in control of those hugely influential countries, France, the EU's main nuclear power, Germany the economic power, and they decide that they don't want this level of integration and they decide that they don't want open borders, then there would be no way to stop that.
How is that going to be allowed to happen?
I mean, you're living in the UK where we're watching your freedom of speech, which you guys don't have codified, but you know, we've always thought that we were living in free countries.
What's happening to the average person for just saying, hey, I don't agree with this, is
insanity.
How are they going to let go of that throat?
I mean, many people in the UK are concerned about this.
It's one of the reasons why GB News has overtaken BBC News and Sky News to become Britain's number one news channel.
That happened last year.
I didn't know that.
Congratulations.
Gosh, I didn't know that.
Good for you.
Yeah,
it happened three years ahead of schedule.
So everyone at GB News is feeling very happy about their work.
But it also shows that mainstream opinion, mainstream concerns haven't been being represented by politicians and by the mainstream, well, the rest of the mainstream media who purport to represent the mainstream, but it seems as though they're not.
And that's the issue, I think.
People just want their borders protected, it seems, and they want people in charge of their country that they feel love their country, and they're prepared to shop around to get it.
What is the pressure like with you guys at GB News?
In what way?
Speech, saying the things that I mean, you know, you've got a very different system than we have.
What is the do you get the pushback at all?
I mean, you know, when they're arresting citizens for posting something on Facebook, what's the pressure on you guys?
Well, as far as I'm aware, we're allowed to say what we need to say within the bounds of the law.
And we've shown that with the fact that we've been able to represent mainstream opinion on immigration to talk about this.
You know, we have a huge small boats crisis on the southern coast of England.
We've had 50,000 people,
87% of which we found out and we revealed exclusively yesterday, are all men coming across on the channel.
That's 50,000 since Labour took office last summer.
We've been able to cover that, we've been able to keep that on the agenda and we've been able to secure policy changes from the Labour government.
It's more about
we do have restrictions on our speech in the UK.
We have things called hate speech laws.
And there is
many people feel an arbitrary interpretation of them at times.
But we're finding that if you make passionate arguments about and you champion Britain, you're able to talk about what you need to.
But we are massively concerned.
I mean,
the US State Department released a report this week saying that they are concerned about human rights violations with regards to speech.
We've seen last year in the wake of the Southport murders and the riots that followed that there were
European, there was a lady called Lucy Connolly who's still in prison now for a tweet she deleted that she put out in haste.
Deleted herself, if I'm not mistaken.
It wasn't asked to delete it.
She actually felt bad about it.
It was like, you know, that wasn't so smart.
And deleted it herself.
And then they still arrested her.
She did.
She did.
And it's come out today that there was a Labour Labour councillor in the UK who had said in an open speech in public that people on the far right should have their throats cut.
And it's just come out today that he has been found not guilty for hate speech.
So I think
people.
Yeah.
So the issue, I think, for lots of people in the UK,
we haven't really got to the point to decide whether we want...
fully free speech.
I think a lot of the argument in the UK is if we have these laws, can they be applied equally?
And I think that's a lot of where our debate comes around.
We've had hate speech laws since the 60s.
We haven't had, we don't have a First Amendment like the US.
And so I think
there is, of course, we have what was called freedom of expression, but there's lots of different caveats to it.
And so I think at the moment, a lot of our debate is more about can we at least trust the state and the judiciary to enforce our laws fairly and equally across the board?
And we haven't even got to a stage yet where we're debating whether we should have those laws at all.
You know, some people would look at 50,000 men coming over in small boats, men, not families, men coming over, and they would view that as an invasion
of sorts.
How do you read that?
See,
UK politics tends to be much more subdued than Americans.
You guys are much more dramatic and you, well, maybe because of your free speech culture, you tend to say what you think more.
And, you know, to as someone who's followed UK politics and covered lots of it, to hear politicians using the word invasion is quite shocking in Britain.
It means that things have are moving forward.
People are able to say more, but it also speaks to more the fears.
I mean, we've got when when migrants come to Britain, I don't know how much your your listeners know, so I'll explain a little bit.
When the migrants come to Britain, they are treated as though they're asylum city.
And when they come,
they get hosted in hotels and with everything else, paid for a little stipend to tide them through.
And what they've been doing, they've been putting them in hotels across towns and villages across the UK.
So you could be in a village of five, six hundred people, all of a sudden, there's a hotel full of 100 migrant men of very different cultures with very different attitudes to women and children who have no job, nothing to keep them occupied, and they're allowed to roam freely.
And what we're seeing is, I mean, in London, the BBC reported last year that there's a rape an hour being reported.
And that's and then we're seeing lots of issues across even rural Britain now,
story after story of
allegations against migrants for sexual crimes.
We've got mothers on the streets in Essex, which is a county just to the east of London, a wealthy part of the country,
typical like middle class families.
And you've got these people who are not politically motivated, people that would never normally be out in the streets holding banners outside hotels saying, Save our children.
And I think that that's something once you
we're not like the French, we don't tend to go out in the streets for nothing.
I think once you get Brits out in the street, and normally in our history, it's only been about tax.
So
if you come out on the streets about something else,
you can't put it back in the box.
No, I, you know, I don't know if you, you know,
America's very well aware of,
you know, the
restraint of the British.
We're very well, very well aware of, you know, exactly
hype things up at all.
So we're aware of that.
Thank you so much for everything you're doing.
And please pass on my congratulations, Nick, to everybody at GB News.
I didn't know that this had happened, and I'm thrilled.
We watch you and we watch and trust we're getting a
straight deal from you guys.
And it's nice to see.
Thank you.
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I have to tell you, I am becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Christian music.
It's really changed.
It's kind of like, you know, when I was growing up, when I was growing up, we had movies that were Christian movies and they were
horrible.
They were horrible.
They were embarrassing and horrible and just you wanted to claw your eyes out.
Now Christian movies are really good.
Christian films, Christian TV shows shows are just really amazing.
Christian music, I don't think has ever been horrible, but
it didn't sound the same.
It wasn't, I don't know, just it wasn't as cool as, you know,
hit music.
That is changing.
That is changing.
This weekend, I am up at the ranch.
I'm doing a kind of a little mini concert interview with Emma Nissen, who is this amazing Christian artist who has just kind of popped on on the scene.
And she's a cross between, I don't know,
Ella Fitzgerald and
Nina Simone and I don't know, maybe a little Billie Eilish in there too.
I mean, it's crazy.
I heard another artist just a couple of weeks ago and I immediately sent this song that I heard to my daughter, who we're moving into her first apartment this weekend.
And, you know, because she's a show person, you know, she's part of those show people.
And
so she's constantly, constantly
worried about what people have been saying.
And she's gotten over that.
But it really was hard for her because,
you know, it's hard for girls as it is, I think.
And I heard this song called IDK.
I don't know.
IDK.
And
I immediately looked the artist up and we tried to book her and she's on with us now.
I want to play a piece of this song because I just think it is, and all of her music is like this.
It's so empowering.
Allison Id joins me in just a second.
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Allison Ide.
Welcome, Allison.
How are you?
Good.
How are you doing?
I'm great.
I'm great.
Thank you for coming on the show.
I want to play, if I may, I want to play just a little bit of IDK for the audience.
For anybody who hasn't heard this, listen to not only the voice and the production value, but listen to the words and what she's saying.
Listen.
I don't know.
What if no one loves you?
I don't know.
Or what if they hate you?
I don't know.
Or what if you die low?
They'll I do note the one who knows it all.
I don't know.
Or what if you're not enough?
I don't know.
What if you can't please anyone?
I don't know.
Or what if you're just not talented?
I don't know.
What if you're actually bad at teaching?
I can't play any more of that because I'm only legally allowed to play 30 seconds of it, but then it gets into the hook.
It is a great song.
It is a great song
called IDK by Allison Ide.
Allison, how old are you?
I'm 25.
You're 25.
You're wildly talented.
How long have you been doing this and writing in particular?
Great question.
I grew up in a music family.
So my dad was actually a worship artist, singer songwriter.
So I grew up touring with him in middle school, high school, with like writing songs since I was a kid just because I loved to.
It was just fun.
And it was my dream to do this someday.
But I didn't release my first single until 2023, which did happen to go viral.
And everything has snowballed after that.
So
the first one was Who I Am?
Love Who I Am, yeah.
Love Who I Am, okay.
And this one you just released and it went mega viral in hours, didn't it?
You know, literally within like a couple days, that thing had like a bunch of millions of views on social media.
Yeah.
And then it definitely, when I released it on like streaming platforms, it was my highest streamed song.
So I've had a couple moments like this, but IDK is definitely the biggest I've experienced, which is like really cool.
Very grateful.
Yeah, it's great.
By the way, I would love to invite you.
I'm doing a series of interviews with musical artists and things.
I would love to invite you up to the ranch if you would be willing to perform up at the ranch.
And it's just kind of a performance and then conversation kind of thing, but we could talk about that off air if you're interested at all.
I'll go to the bottom.
But
so
the lyrics really on all of your songs are speaking, I think they speak to me, and it shouldn't.
I mean, I know who I am.
Anyway,
but I thought of my daughter immediately
because, I mean,
girls are wicked.
They really are mean to one another.
And, you know, when she was going through high school, my gosh,
it was constant, you know, crisis of identity and who do I listen to and everything else.
And you seem to have that theme.
Did you go through that?
I struggled a lot with my mental health, I'd say, since I was like 10 years old.
So a lot of
my
where these songs come from is just really me being mentally mentally a disaster and having no idea how to heal and get better.
So wait a minute.
Can I ask you what do you mean?
What do you mean you struggled with mental health?
If you don't mind me, you can tell me to stop anytime.
I won't push you.
I have, no, you're so good.
I have struggled with an anxiety disorder called obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then struggled a lot with different trauma and
episodes of depression.
And that was in and out throughout like middle school and high school and college.
College was at its worst, which was ironic because I was like playing college basketball.
I loved like performing on stage, but behind the scenes, I was just really debilitated.
I grew up in a Christian family, though, so I was like, oh, I
like, I should be able to trust God.
I should have faith in him.
I should be confident.
Like, if God loves me, how come I don't know how to love me?
And it was just this like tension at all times.
If I'm a Christian, I love God.
why is it so hard and I feel like he's not here and in college was when it was I was struggling the most but there was one night like in my car at 2 a.m.
and I always wrote songs to like get through all of this but I remember really experiencing Jesus in my mess and I learned like his heart does not repel our mess he actually is a magnet to those who are broken and so the bigger the mess the closer Jesus is
that inspired me to be like I'm not gonna write songs and tie them up in a bow.
Like, I'm just going to say it as it is, unfiltered.
And
the Lord has, for some reason, taken these songs to a lot of places to help people.
So I just think he uses what's really bad and changes it for good.
And that's a blessing.
I tell you,
I can understand how I need to be as a father by
looking at him as my literal dad.
And
I can look at my daughter and,
watch her struggle.
She struggled through a lot of the same stuff that you
struggled with and depression, you know, in and out of hospitals.
And it was really difficult.
And
she found,
you know, God
to be the answer as well.
And
I love the lyrics in Love Who I Am.
God, I need to see me through your eyes.
I've been so dependent on how I think.
They think of me, truth pushed aside by the opinions that, uh, opinions I've been harboring.
I want to love who I am, not through somebody's lens, but through the author holding the pen.
It's just great.
Those lyrics.
Yeah.
That's
the Lord is kind for that.
Thank you, though.
You're very kind.
So where do you go from here?
Are you, do you do tours?
I'm sorry, I just, I'm, I heard the music and I loved it, and I asked my staff, can you get a hold of her?
So
I don't know that much about you, but I want to learn where are you going now?
Great question.
We just finished summer tour, so
we were all over the U.S., my band and I, for that.
And
the last leg of tour, we had a couple headline shows in New York and Florida, and it was the first time playing IDK Live.
And it was crazy how the fans like screamed that song.
So that's kind of what we just finished up, and it was really cool.
We are currently working on tour plans for end of fall and then next spring.
But in the meantime, I'm just releasing, I have three more singles coming out this year, and very, very excited about them.
What are they, King?
Yeah.
So the next one's called Digital Jesus.
And what is that about?
I mean, besides Jesus.
Digital Jesus is basically a song about
going through grief or any mental struggle and like numbing it out with the phone and with the noise and just being like, God, I am done and like wanting to throw the phone away and run and be with the Lord and feel again.
And the bridge of the song really touches on how like the discomfort,
where there is discomfort, where you feel a mess, that's where God's presence is dwelling.
And so it's not fun,
but to feel and to experience Jesus is worth it.
And so I went through a difficult year.
I lost my dad to cancer a year ago, and it was a really traumatic experience.
And going through that type of grief was
very foreign to me.
I've never experienced something like that.
And so, Who is God Amidst Grief and the Mess has just been the theme of these songs?
So
it is fabulous.
I don't know if you've ever heard of Emma Nissen.
She is really good.
I love Emma Nissen.
Yeah, she's cracked.
She's crazy.
I know.
I just talked to her on the phone for, we're getting ready for her to come up at the ranch, and I just talked to her on the phone a couple of days ago.
She is hysterical.
She is really
very, very kind,
really powerful.
She knows who she is, but she struggled through a lot of, I don't know if you follow her, but
she talks about about body image and everything else that I know girls are dealing with.
And it's, it's in, and it's just a really powerful way.
But anyway,
I've heard her say that,
you know, I don't necessarily want my music to be called Christian music or, you know, pop music or jazz or whatever.
She's like, it's just good music.
And
do you kind of feel that way?
Are you...
Are you kind of pushed into the Christian music?
even though, I mean, your lyrics are obviously Christian, but it doesn't sound, I could listen to your music and it's like listening to Billie Eilish or anybody else.
Totally.
I totally understand Eminism with that, too.
I think
what Christian music is known as, like CCM, feels like such a strict bubble.
And I think
a lot of us younger artists are ready to break free from that box.
I know for me, there was a time when I was traveling to Nashville.
I'm from Minneapolis, Minnesota, but when I traveled to Nashville and was building a team, a lot of people were like trying to
help me write a song that's geared towards radio or fit the theme of like the Christian sound.
And I was like, that's not me.
So I just kind of took it independent and built this from scratch a little bit.
And I have noticed that the industry has never been shifting and changing more than ever before.
And I think people are ready for just, like Emma said, good music.
For me,
I think
I am fine being known as like a Christian artist, but I think more so when I my mission is to
rebel against the
how do I explain this?
The expectation to have everything together.
Yeah, it's a I would love to show what it looks like to be an absolute disaster and still love Jesus, to be doing the things that are like seem un-Christian, but are actually just revealing what mess looks like.
And my songs showing, just modeling what it looks like to be authentic with the Lord.
So, whether or not I'm pegged as a Christian artist, as long as that's what people are experiencing from my songs, then I've done my job and I trust the Lord with the rest.
I will tell you, just stay true to him, and the whole world is going to change.
I mean, it already is changing.
I think people
have dealt with labels for so long.
And, you know, when I first heard Emma,
I thought
I could peg her with three.
I'd listen to a song and I'm like, oh, that's who she is.
And then I'd listen to the next song, oh, that's who she is.
And then
I heard, I don't remember what it is, but one of her songs, and she sounds exactly like Ella Fitzgerald.
And that's when I knew there's something entirely unique.
She's her own little box.
I feel the same way about you.
You're your own little box.
And
labels don't mean anything.
And I think just quality, and I don't know why you can't have good quality
music like yours that, yeah, it happens to mention God or Jesus, but
the other music that is pop is mentioning all kinds of darkness and really bad stuff.
I'd rather have me and my family fill my head with good music that I want to listen to, but also have decent lyrics.
Why does that have to be in a box that's not pop?
I think that's going to change.
I really do.
I think it's going to change.
I so agree.
I think also
the powers that be in the industry have never had less power because we have viralities and social media in this digital age give everyone a much more of an equal chance to have a voice, which means the internet is chaos of music, but it's beautiful because there are not as many gatekeepers and I think now we get to see music.
I think
it's a little unpredictable now, which means the Lord has more control on where the songs get to go and who it gets to impact, which anything in the Lord's hands is that's the best hands something can be in.
So, I mean, that's what I think.
And I think it's chaotic, but it is a very important time for people to just write the music and make the songs that feels authentic to them.
And you bring Jesus into that, whether explicitly or implicitly, I think the Lord blesses it.
Allison, I hope to meet you.
I just love your music and love your attitude.
Thank you.
Keep going.
Thank you.
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10 seconds.
You know, I was a top 40 programming director for a long time.
And I remember
a radio station saying, you can't play Pearl Jam, you can't play Stone Temple Pilots,
you can't play any of these alternative on top 40.
And I was like, no, you really can.
It's okay.
Nobody cares about the labels.
They like good music.
And I have the sense, I had that sense back then that things were changing in music.
And I have that same kind of sense now.
This music is going to become more and more popular.
Stu is just looking at me like, you wrecked every station you ever touched.
Well, first of all,
that's mostly from your telling.
It's funny when you tell this story because I live, I was a kid.
living in
a teenager.
I was, you know, I don't know, late, like, I don't know.
It feels felt like you are in high school.
Um, and you were making these changes to the station I was listening to, uh, one of the stations I listened to on a normal basis.
Like, I totally went through this entire thing as a listener, and it was so bizarre because it was like one day it was playing like one type of music, and the next day it seemed to be totally different.
Now, it was the type of music I liked.
You know, I was an alternative rock.
It was the time that you liked this.
Yeah, it was the only time I really liked the station, other than when I was like a real small child, you know, listening to top 40 only.
So, and it would, it felt like it lasted like nine months, and then it was all gone.
It was back to the other stuff.
So, I don't know.
I was drinking.
Okay.
I was drinking, and I was relieved of command
after nine months.
But I stand by that work.
I stand by.
It was.
It was great.
It was a great nine-month station.
I'll tell you that.
It was.
It was.
All right.
Anyway.
Final thoughts on the program, and I think we have to
spend a little little time talking about cheerleaders.
Next.
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So
the Minnesota Vikings, the Vikings
now have two male cheerleaders.
Now, when I first heard this story, I said to my wife, wife, daughter, because they brought this up to me, and I said, well, now let's not be hasty.
I said, there's lots of sports teams that have male cheerleaders.
And I said to my wife and my daughter, who are both cheerleaders, I said, didn't you have, you know, when...
you know, college, didn't they, they have the guys run out and the cheerleaders and they hold the girls up and throw them and everything else.
And my wife went, that's not this.
And
I haven't seen the footage footage yet but here are the here are the two male Viking cheerleaders
cut 29
oh
there they are
dear God
okay we can stop we can stop please no more we can stop do you like it?
Give me a Y.
Give me an E, give me an S.
What's that spell?
Yes.
No.
That came out way out of your mouth way too easily.
That's been practiced in front of a mirror.
I'll tell you that.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
No,
I don't think so.
So
Vikings season ticket holders are canceling their season tickets.
And now, what part of Minnesota didn't you understand when you bought a ticket?
You're in Minnesota.
Of course, it's going to happen in Minnesota.
But the Vikings, the Vikings would have killed cheerleaders like that.
Well, they didn't have cheerleaders.
It's not like they were on their ship.
Give me an R, give me an A, give me a P, give me an E.
What's that spell?
Rain!
I don't think they had that.
Very likely.
Yeah, you don't see that in the
historic accounts of their practices.
No, no.
So the Vikings having male cheerleaders like that, not exactly makes a lot of sense.
It's not a surprise, though, right?
For Minnesota?
No.
Yeah.
I would say most NFL teams,
you would not be stunned to see it.
Cowboys, I would probably be stunned to see it.
I mean, most of their most feminine people in the team are players, so they wouldn't necessarily need them as cheerleaders.
Hang on just a second.
Hang on just a second.
I just know Jason's there.
Stupid.
Good gosh.
Do you think the Eagles would put male cheerleaders like that on the field?
Yeah, probably.
They probably would.
I don't think they do that.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
Do you think male cheerleaders like that would walk off the field of Philadelphia the same way they walked onto the field?
Not in the area where the stadium is.
No, no, no, no.
No.
Yes, it would be a little rough.
But I mean, the team, you know, the Eagles team is pretty liberal and the conservative.
I mean, you know, the Cowboys, relatively speaking, are pretty conservative, right?
So you wouldn't see
you'd be very surprised to see that at the Cowboys.
I mean, this one is pretty over the top, though, right?
I mean, it's, it's
as,
I don't know, it's as far as I've seen.
Don't American.
That's who it is.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I remember him.
Yeah.
Don the American.
He is a guy who seemed a little effeminate to be in ISIS, but
Al Qaeda, wasn't it?
Oh, Al-Qaeda, that's right.
Al-Qaeda.
Send the American spokesman.
Yeah, send back your soldiers, your sailors, your spies, your attachés, etc.
That was
from where to where?
It was somewhere to
Satan to Zanzibar.
I'll never forget.
Or
you don't do it.
We're going to give you such a slap.
It was not necessarily the persona you'd expect to lead an al-Qaeda messaging department, but it was effective.
By the way, we lost him.
We've lost Gadon the American in 2015.
Didn't quite make it.
He passed away, Glenn.
We didn't just lose him in the mall.
He actually died.
Hello, where is everybody?
Right.
Al-Qaeda.
You know, he was looking forward to his shot as a Minnesota Vikings cheerleader, too.
That's just so sad.
And you know, Al-Qaeda would have loved that.
They would be all in support.
Look at it.
Look at this again.
This again, the same people in Minnesota that are wrapping their arms around the Somali flag.
They're ready to put in an Islamist socialist mayor in Minneapolis, and
you're putting on the two transgender bender
cheerleaders.
That's not going to go well with your people in Somalia.
You don't think?
I mean, we're the haters.
They're the ones who kill them.
I mean, it's nuts.
It's interesting.
Yeah, Adam Godon was kind of like, he was like early to that boat.
Yeah, he was.
He was the, you know, he was the red, green, pink alliance way back before it was even a thing.
Pretty amazing.
True.
Now, I'm not sure that he was ping.
He was prophetic of it, Glenn.
Are you just judging him by his accent?
By his speech?
Oh, no.
No.
No.
All right.
Good.
Because then you shouldn't do that.
By the way,
I saw a promo for,
oh, is it on Netflix for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleader thing?
Or I saw it in the news.
I saw something.
It was a big show.
Oh, it was a clip on, I think,
on Instagram from one of the episodes where they're talking to the girls.
This was a mistake.
This was a mistake.
If you're doing a how the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Become Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, nowhere in that pitch should it say, and we talk to the girls.
It would be kind of a weird show if they didn't actually speak to the girls.
It's like a reality show, right?
You know,
I thought it was really weird when they did talk to them because of what they said.
They asked them questions like, who's the president of the United States?
Now, this was taken before Trump.
Who's the president of the United States?
You know what the answer was?
O Biden?
No.
O'Biden.
O'Biden.
It's a
completely accurate answer.
I totally back that answer.
That's exactly who it was.
Exactly, O'Biden.
That's a good point.
How many yards are there on a football field?
Answer
50?
Well, there are 50.
There's just another 50 and then two end zones.
It was, I mean, it was.
If I were dad or mom and I saw this episode, I'd be like,
sweetheart, you're cute and everything, and you can dance.
But
we need to have a talk with you using what God gave you upstairs beyond the shoulders, a little higher than the shoulders.
We need you to work on that one a little bit.
A little bit.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
I will say, too, it seems like they've for a long time they were putting them on this reality show and they were, you know, dancing at all their losses and
they were paying them like 11 cents a month.
And now I guess
they've upped the salaries of them.
I mean, they're the most famous cheerleaders in the world, right?
And they were not exactly bringing in the cash.
I guess now they're finally making some money, which is good.
Yeah, you know why?
Because you know what the excuse was?
You have the honor of being a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader.
And that actually is kind of like.
Yeah,
I mean, it is quite an honor, right?
It's a real honor, and you could probably get, you could probably marry some real, you know, dumb sexist money, too.
I don't, you know, just by like,
I'm a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader.
And somebody's like, I got lots of money.
We're made for each other.
I don't think they have
a TV show for the Philadelphia Eagles cheerleaders, do they?
No.
I'm pretty sure they don't.
I mean, in Minnesota, they have men now, you know, as cheerleaders, but in Philadelphia, they have cheerleaders that are female that just look like men.
No.
have you ever seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
You're watching that show.
That's Danny DeVito.
It's true.
And I will say, you know, there is, I don't think there's any trans
cheerleaders on the Eagles.
I will say their players keep wearing all this jewelry, though.
They keep getting all this new jewelry every couple of years.
Jason, how many years has it been since the Cowboys picked up some new jewelry?
We had our time.
You
person there.
How can you be i i tell you what sitting in the heart of dallas cowboys you know you know the mecca there and we have philadelphia eagles fans do it makes absolutely no sense oh
i told you you don't understand jason my entire life i've been an eagles fan and living in areas where they hate the eagles and in almost which is wait wait which is wait hang on just a second which is everywhere outside of philadelphia basically yes
basically utter just like hatred for the Eagles every place I've been.
And that, you know, normally sucks.
I will say the past few years have been absolutely glorious living in this city.
Watching the Eagles win two Super Bowls with the Cowboys in whatever the hell they're doing right now has been utter pleasure from beginning to end.
And it's the only time in my life I've ever been able to enjoy it.
So give me this one thing.
That's all I have to say.
I will tell you, I have season tickets to the Cowboys.
And
every time we go,
I'm shocked at how many non-Cowboy fans are in the stadium.
Oh, yeah.
It's like the Cowboys are almost booed at home.
It's almost like, wow, there's a lot of people here that don't like the Cowboys.
Yeah.
It's true.
And a lot of these like stadiums are building now are kind of built for that, really.
They're huge.
They're not really about the football anymore.
It's more like a kind of like a rock crowd.
You know,
we have, you know, we're up.
You know, the the nose doesn't bleed, but it's close.
Um, but you're, you're in the seats and we're at the 50-yard line and we're eye level with the big, huge TV, the giant TV.
And every time we're there, we're, we're just watching it on TV.
And at some point, I'm, I look at, you know, my son, I'm like, we could have done this at home.
Yeah, yeah.
We could have done this at home.
Why are we not looking at the field?
That is legitimately distracting.
It is.
Yeah.
No, I don't like going.
It's a pain in the butt to go into a lot of these sporting arenas anymore.
Like it takes like an hour to get in.
It takes two hours to get out.
They all have these big screens.
You might as well just sit home.
I know.
I don't know why they don't.
It would be so much better if they would just put that yellow line down on where the first down is, you know?
Yeah.
Why don't they do that?
That's so weird.
I don't know why they don't do that.
They do it on TV all the time.
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Stu, Jason, he is our head researcher, just found something out.
Chief researcher.
What did I say?
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Jason Butchell, chief researcher for Glenn.
Now I introduce him with glee, Jason.
That's right, Glenn.
Breaking news.
There are actually 12 NFL teams that are introducing male cheerleaders this year.
Dallas Cowboys are not one of them, but coming in at the power spot of number five, Stews, Philadelphia Eagles.
They could be recruiting their cheerleaders from Al-Qaeda, and I would still love them.
I don't care what they're doing.
Unlike the Cowboys, people don't go just for the cheerleaders in Philadelphia.
It's a good part of it, though, Stu.
It is a good part of it.
It's the American part of it.
It's engaged the American man.
It's heartbeating.
I can't disagree with any of this talk.
I have to say, I'd like to.
I'd like to, but no,
they are fantastic.
They are.
They do a great job test.
They do a great job.
And they're all 100%
USDA grade women.
That's right.
I thought you were going to say natural, and I was going to say, eh, I don't know about that one.
No, I'm not stupid.
I know there's 100 yards on the football field.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's part of the enjoyment there, going to Cowboy Stadium, especially as you mentioned with the 9,000-foot television.
It does get a little awkward when you're there with your kids and they're six inches away from the navel with the cameras.
It's like, I don't know where I'm even supposed to look.
I don't know.
I'm just going to.
I know exactly where you're supposed to look.
Yeah,
I know where God said.
You're a man.
You're a man.
You're looking right here.
Now, you can look, but do not order from that menu, but you can look.
You're a man.
Just to remind you who you are.
All right.
We will see you back on Monday, same Beck Time, same Beck Channel.
Stay safe, and may God save the Republic.
Thanks.
This is Glenn Beck.