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It's George Soros' birthday.

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Hello, Stu.

It's a big day.

I was unaware

of this birthday.

I know.

It's not in my calendar for some reason.

I mean, why do you suppose that is?

I don't know.

I mean, here's a guy who's really made an impact on our world.

He really has.

He really is.

And he's 95 years old.

Wow.

You know, he's outlived almost all of the people that tried to stop him.

And to be honest, most of the economies that he tried to collapse.

So it's nice.

And so I just wanted to just say, happy birthday, George Soros.

I mean,

I know we've had our quibbles.

You threatened my life once.

You know, I've called you spooky dude, you know, but let's put all that aside.

I mean, this is, I mean, you have toppled a few currencies just for sport.

You have funded enough political movements all over the world to keep small nations in coups for over a century now.

And you've turned philanthropy into a really terrifying word.

You know, you're like,

wait, the Soros Foundation is behind this?

I mean, it's kind of neat.

You take people's breath away when we talk about philanthropy, which is nice.

And somehow or another, you have learned how to blame everything from inflation to a collapsing society on the people who are pointing out the involvement,

you know, your involvement in our ever-collapsing world.

Or, you know, if you can't pin it on them, it's the weather.

So you've got that.

And George, all of this time, all of the hard work, here you are at 95, and to see it all come apart at the very end, to see it all collapse,

it's got to be hard.

It's got to be hard.

But the good news is

most of it

is coming because unlike you, I know people are good and smart and even decent.

And in the end, the good guys win, kind of like they did.

In World War II.

Remember, you were, I think you were a young teenager when you threw your lot in with the Nazis.

I know, I know, you didn't have a choice.

And I actually believe that.

You didn't have a choice.

I probably would have done the same thing if I were your age.

And I mean that honestly.

However, what has always puzzled me is if I would have made that choice, I think I would have had, I don't know, more than just a fleeting moment of reflection on that.

You know, maybe.

You know, what's always puzzled me is that you have never once, in your own words, looked back on that and had a second of guilt or regret.

I mean, I think I have this right.

You took and sold the goods of homes that were taken by the Nazis from the Jews.

They took the Jews to the death camps and you cleaned out the houses and sold the valuables, which

is weird that you have no regrets or reflections on that.

Didn't even think about it.

Never gave it a second.

You know, that was weird.

And I was shocked to hear you say that when you were on 60 Minutes and they asked you about that.

Now, my follow-up question would have been, have you ever been diagnosed as a psychopath?

But they didn't ask that question and probably didn't have to because

it became very clear that you indeed were a psychopath when you spoke about how when you, quote, do these little experiments with countries and currencies that you collapse, you know that people are hurt, but you find it and still quoting, I don't know, fun.

Wow.

Wow.

That's a different kind of, that's a different kind of fun there that I've never really understood at all.

But, you know, George, people say the measure of a man a mark of a man's life is the good that he leaves behind and

in your case that that good is still looking for a gps signal i haven't found it but i'm sure we will and it's and it's sad to think now that you're 95 again happy birthday george and i mean that sincerely um now at 95 to to think that all of your wildly, strangely young girlfriends are now clearly only with you for the money and they might be losing some interest because the way your son is handling your money

that may be gone fast as your girlfriend's.

You know what I mean?

And I know it causes you pain to hear about this and to see your entire world collapsing now at the end.

And, you know, many people might see this and see your pain and say, well, you know, yeah, but

it's kind of fun.

to watch that pain in George Soros, but not me, not me.

Now, I've called you Spooky Dude.

And if if it wasn't for the spooky dude good looks, you know, of your son, Alex, I'd wonder, and maybe you have wondered this, is he really your son?

Because he's nothing like you.

Sure, he's spooky and everything else, but what a dope this guy is.

I mean, you were the guy known for, you know, breaking the Bank of England.

That's what they called you, the man who broke the Bank of England.

Your son is breaking another bank, but it seems to be yours, which is weird.

Because when it comes to investing and making money, wow,

what a disappointment in a son huh george

wow what went wrong there anyway um

you know several countries have banned you uh you know or your organizations from even being in their country because you were so good at what you did you know collapsing currencies and societies but when your son took control of soros fund management you know the thing you spent your whole life building i mean it was an empire a global empire in december 2021 one of the first things he did was invest $2 billion to buy nearly 20 million shares of an electric vehicle company called Rivian.

And he bought the shares somewhere between $70 and $100 per share.

In fact, he was so confident in your money that it was the largest one-off investments your fund had ever made.

And

now, I hate to point out, you know, a year later, those shares were selling for $18.

And it looks like you lost over a billion dollars.

In fact, with the moves that he's been making, with your life's work,

wow.

Hedge follow, this is a website that tracks and ranks U.S.

hedge fund performances.

They currently give the Soros fund management, your company that you dedicated your life to, a performing

rating of one out of five stars, which makes it one of the least successful in the country.

Wow.

And you know, another reason why I wonder if he's your son is, I mean, you've always prided yourself on being the man in the shadows that anybody could ever point to, you know what I mean?

But your son is so filled with pride.

Pride, something.

Something follows pride.

I can't remember that saying.

I should look that up.

But anyway, happy birthday, George.

This guy, your son, he takes selfies with some of the, well, frankly, they're some of the biggest losers in the political sphere right now.

But, you know, the actual influence of your life's work seems to be diminishing rapidly.

In fact, in July 2023, Open Society Foundation, you guys announced that you were laying off 40% of your staff worldwide.

Wow.

What happened there?

Was that Rivian?

Ooh, does that hurt when I say that?

Was it Rivian?

You halted all new grants and you completely changed your operating model, mainly because I think you were kind of getting out of money.

You know what I mean?

And the crowning glory, the crowning achievement of your Open Society Network under Alex was the passage of the so-called Inflation Reduction Act.

You know, I don't think people know you were really involved in that.

In fact, one of the guys that worked for Open Society, I mean, you reopened

a Open Society Foundation

firm there in New York so you could lobby and became one of the biggest just for that.

And in fact, he was so involved, he was actually honored with

the gift of being on the floor when that passed.

Wow.

Wow.

Gosh.

Gosh.

Now that that's all falling apart too, I mean, oh.

Now, let me ask you, when you passed that, was that because of Rivian?

I hate to keep bringing that up, but

the reason why I say that, at the same time your son was doing that, your son was spending at least $4 million on Stacey Abrams'

failed gubernatorial campaign.

And you would think to yourself, who would be this stupid?

Certainly not George Soros' son.

I mean, he's really, really smart.

Why would he do that?

Well, now it could be because at the time, Rivian was starting to build a giga factory.

right there in her state.

And he was asking the state for, you know, some subsidies,

which, gosh, then she didn't win.

And all that money was flushed down the toy.

But the good news is Biden, at the very last minute, gave Rivian $6.5 billion for a loan for the factory from the Department of Energy.

Gosh, this isn't one of those things that Donald Trump cut, was it?

Oh, man, that's got to hurt.

But at least it did wonders for Rivian share.

Now the stock is now worth less than $12 a share.

anyway, at least you have the Soros DAs, you know, the

fund the police, you know, no bail, go soft on crime.

That seems to be working out really.

Well, not really.

More than a dozen of your DAs that you, that was your jewel.

That was the one thing that you were like, I have all the DAs and we're going to collapse this country.

Yeah.

More than a dozen have been removed from office by recalls and scandals and just people just like,

I can't do another one of these.

You know what I mean?

And the spike of urban crime ended up being one of the key factors in the defeat of the Democratic Party of 2024, which seems to go exactly against everything that you were trying to do.

You know, the second election of Donald Trump, you know, crime, immigration, and the economy.

were the big topics, which had to bother you because those were your big topics too.

And how it must have hurt, you know, when he won and then what he did for energy and cutting electric car subsidies.

Ooh, gosh, that one hurts again.

Closing the borders, defunding all your little NGOs, now going after your sanctuary cities, and this week taking crime on in D.C.

And even the liberals are saying, you know what, I don't really agree with Donald Trump, but I think he's right on this one.

Man, I would imagine the mental torture of a 95-year-old man who is just, you know, just trying to make it to the pudding in the afternoon, the sea or world fall apart.

That torture must be relentless.

But, I mean, if I'm going to be honest, I kind of find it fun.

Oh, now see.

You see how that feels, George?

When somebody doesn't recognize your pain, you might be thinking what I would be thinking.

Glenn, are you a psychopath?

You don't see the pain of others?

No, I'm just doing a comedy monologue here, George.

You actually meant that.

So I wanted just to give you your perfect birthday present.

And what do you get?

A guy who has everything?

You know, you've got to find something he doesn't have.

And that's why I wanted to get you a soul.

But I thought, no, he's already lost the one he had.

So I don't know if you really would appreciate it.

But the good news is you have all of that worldly power and that wealth to keep you warm at night, which is good because you should get used to the warmth.

Because where you're headed, I hear is very, very hot all the time.

A little beyond warm.

I hear it's terrifyingly hot there.

But hey,

this has been fun, hasn't it?

I don't know.

I just kind of find it fun.

To wish you a happy 95th birthday.

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Gosh, Stu, I hope that wasn't too mean.

Oh, no, it's really nice.

I mean, you've had some political disagreements with George Soros that maybe many in the audience don't recall.

Yeah.

But your effort to step out and welcome him to a wonderful 95th birthday, which I believe was yesterday.

Yeah.

It was like, gosh, darn it.

I feel bad too.

I miss that.

Yeah, yeah.

That one hurts.

But I think that's why you took an entire segment

of this show.

I wanted to make sure that I got this out.

It was interesting, too, as you were going through that.

I was thinking about the 2016 election.

And if you remember that election a little bit, Glenn, there was an incident, a very close election,

down to the wire between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

And then

there was this whole situation with

an email scandal.

Do you remember the email scandal that was around Hillary Clinton?

Yeah, yeah.

The one the ODNI report talked about and the Annex talked about.

Oh, yeah.

Really big deal at the time and now.

But at the time.

And it was, I think, I don't know, a week and a half before the election, there was this big FBI

statement where they were reopening the investigation on her.

And I was thinking, where did that laptop come from?

Where did it come from?

They found all these emails.

And I remember it was Anthony Weiner.

Oh.

And then I remembered, who was Anthony Weiner married to at the time?

Oh, gosh,

I can't remember her last name because now it's Soros.

That's where I was because George Soros' son

is now married to Uma Abedeen.

Yes.

And Uma Abedeen is right next to two of the worst losses in the history of the party he supported.

No, he's now his son's married to her.

Yeah.

That's about it.

What a coincidence.

You've got to be proud.

When birthday,

birthdays are great.

You know, my son's birthday is today.

He's having a wonderful day.

I was very happy to hear it was not the exact same day as George Soros.

But like, birthdays are great.

You get presents.

You go out to the restaurant.

My son loves hibachi.

I mean, maybe George is going out to that.

And while he's at hibachi, and they're cutting up and they're doing a little

onion thing where like the stone volcano comes up.

And then he hits the spatula against the thing and it goes, dood, doodle, like it's a little train.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Yeah, when he's doing that, he can think about how all the work he's put in has led to two devastating defeats in the past three elections.

And all the work that he put into all those efforts that you highlighted,

maybe he could take the time to understand that, you know, this has all led to this potentially pathetic failure.

Wow, you know, I thought you were going somewhere else with that train analogy with George Soros and his history.

Oh, wow.

But no.

Hey, listen, tonight,

tonight, it probably didn't sound that happy.

No.

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And Greg Abbott next.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

We are excited to have Greg Abbott on, named one of the 100 most influential people in the world by Time magazine in 2024.

He's running the eighth largest economy in the world, Texas.

Made in Texas, never been a bigger brand.

We are home to more than 3 million small businesses that employ almost half of all working Texans.

Texas led the way out of the 08 recession, and it's leading the way again because

the government doesn't tell everybody exactly what to do.

It is a great place to run a business.

And I think

if he can get his property tax reform through,

he will also make it a great place to live.

It's getting a little expensive, but he knows that and he's working on it.

He's here to talk about the Texas redistricting.

Looks like, at least, Governor, welcome to the program.

Blaze News is reporting today: Texas

redistricting standoff is over.

They are returning to the state house.

Is that true?

Trust but verify.

The Democrats say that they are coming back.

To put all this in context, make sure the audience knows what's going on.

So the governor has the ability to call a special session that lasts 30 days.

This one was scheduled to end early next week.

But yesterday, the House and Senate agreed they were going to adjourn.

at the end of this Friday.

And I said that I was going to call back another special session beginning immediately.

And it was after that that the Democrats, I think, learned that their fate was they were going to have to take up permanent residency in Illinois or California, wherever they were, if they did not come back.

And that's when discussions began that they were going to be actually coming back.

And so the word on the street and the word in the news is that they are coming back and they will be part of the special session that begins either on Friday of this week or Saturday of this week.

But again, we'll see when and if they show up, we will be prepared.

If they don't show up, we will be prepared.

If they do show up.

Either way, I'm going to say you this, and that is these congressional district maps, they're going to pass, as well as the other items on the agenda.

They are going to pass.

That's good news.

You know, it's already passed in the Senate, as you know.

You believe you have enough votes in the House to pass it as well.

We know we have enough votes in the House to pass it.

To get something passed like this only requires a majority, doesn't require two-thirds vote.

And we have almost two-thirds of the Texas House made up of Republicans.

Because we do not have actually two-thirds, it means that the one-third, a little bit more than one-third of the Democrats, they can break the quorum under current law.

By the way, current law that needs to be changed.

But that point aside,

there will be plenty of votes to make sure that the map that passed out of the Texas Senate will also pass out of the Texas House.

Gavin Newsom has just demanded that you stop your redistricting efforts.

He said he was going to retaliate by adding five more Democratic seats in California to cancel out the five that Texas is going to add.

He said, Governor Abbott, you are not entitled to five congressional seats.

Any response to Gavin Newsom?

Oh, my God.

Unfortunately.

a break.

So, for one, there's so many things wrong with that.

In Texas, for us to redraw congressional lines and make sure that people in Texas are going to have the ability to vote for the Republican candidate of their choice in these congressional seats, all it requires is for the governor to call a special session on it and for a majority of the Texas House and Senate to vote on it.

In California, they have to go through this complex constitutional process, which really means they would not even be able to get it done.

But that point aside, if they still really wanted to get something done, it's impossible because they are so gerrymandered in the first place.

They have almost eliminated all Republican members of Congress out there.

And Glenn, this is the biggest issue that surfaced because of this redistricting battle.

And that is most Americans had no idea how much California, Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts had gerrymandered their state so that they had purged pretty much every Republican from the United States Congress.

And so

California with Gavinusam is kind of like someone showing up to a gunfight but forgot to bring the bullets because he doesn't have any bullets to shoot in this fight.

Whereas Texas has plenty of bullets to shoot to make sure that we will maintain a congressional district in Texas that's going to be more Republican, more representative of the values and votes in our state, but also capable of stretching that if we do have states like California or Illinois, whatever the case may be,

if they go full scale and really rig the system the way that Gavin Newsom's talking about doing, if those rules apply, then Texas can gain more ground than California can.

You said that

Betto should be arrested over his fundraising for Democrats on the run.

What law did he break?

So first, let me tell you what he said, and I'll tell you what law that he broke.

And I am quoting to you what I saw and actually posted on my ex account of what Betto said in writing,

at least it was in quotations.

And that is,

he suggested that if these Texas Democrats were to skip the vote, not vote, break quorum, meaning not uphold their responsibility to, say, in the legislative session, then

he would give all of the House members who evaded Austin money to support them.

So this is what you call a quid pro quo.

That's exactly what happened.

So Glenn, that would be bribery

if that's what took place.

And that is a second-degree felony in the state of Texas.

And I pointed it out in part for him, but really

aiming the target at the Texas House members because it exposes these Texas Democrat House members who ran away to charges of bribery, but also that charge of bribery would be grounds for them to actually have forfeited their Texas House seat that would vacate it and allow us to fill it.

There are reports that Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett could lose her seat because of the new map.

It would boot her out of her own current district.

Please tell me that's not true.

We think she's the best thing to happen to the Republican Party in a very long time.

No doubt about it, but I think she may be even better for the media

because she writes a story for you every single day.

Oh, yes, she does.

So listen, I haven't seen the lines exactly how they impact her district.

What we have seen already, there's a seat down in

the Austin area where a representative named Lloyd Doggett currently represents.

It's been consolidated with one by one of these progressive leftist,

you know, basically socialist,

Greg Kassar.

And it looks like they have been put together in one district.

And news overnight said that Greg Kassar was going to be running against Louis Doggett.

My point of telling you this, and that may be the very same thing that happens up in the Dallas area with a couple of seats.

I think there will be maybe two seats in the Dallas area that are impacted by this.

And it could likely be a free-for-all among the various different candidates and she may very well be one of them.

Can I ask you,

how is the property tax reform going?

I think property tax is one of the most immoral taxes we have.

I mean, I want to leave my house to my kids.

They'll never be able to afford, you know, not only the death tax, but they wouldn't be able to afford the property tax.

It makes people a renter from the government every year.

What are we doing on property tax reform?

Because it's getting devastating here in Texas.

Let me ask you.

So you brought up some other taxes.

Let me

pare down exactly the property tax by telling you this, and that is

to ensure other taxes would never be imposed in the state of Texas, we made unconstitutional the income tax, the death tax, the capital gains tax, and the transactions tax.

and there's another one I'm forgetting right now.

Bottom line is we've made unconstitutional all these other taxes.

Now, what we're trying to do is to trim down the property tax.

Let me tell you what the challenge is.

The challenge is the state of Texas does not impose a property tax itself, only local governments do.

And so, when we strive as a state to pare down what local governments tax, we have only several options, and that is to increase the homestead exemption or to buy down that property tax rate.

You know, one thing I know you heard me talk about before, and that is to eliminate the largest part of the property tax is the school property tax.

And one of my goals was to eliminate the school property tax, which would go a long way to eliminating the property tax.

That said, let me tell you where we are, where we're going.

So where we are after we finish the regular session through the combination of the increase in a homestead exemption as well as buying down or reducing those school property tax rates, at least at the senior level.

If you're a senior,

the average senior, through the combination of all this, will pay $0,

none,

for their school property tax.

Others

will still have to pay a level of school property tax.

That said,

Glenn, there's a couple of more things we need to do.

One, and we're going to get some of this done in this special session.

It It looks like it'll be the second special session.

But

one is to make further cuts in the property taxes.

But secondly, we've got to understand this.

Mayor, I told you to begin with that it's the local governments that impose the property tax.

So, what I want to see done is I want to put the same restrictions on local government that exist on state government, and that is spending limits.

Their spending is out of control.

Thank you.

Completely reckless and unnecessary.

Yes.

And

we've got to tie the hands of these local governments from increasing your property taxes, even having a chance to increase it.

And so the state has four constitutional spending limits.

Now local governments have zero spending limits.

They must at a minimum be constrained to spending no more than population growth plus inflation.

If they do that,

you will see a dramatic reduction at your local level.

And one thing I know that you face with, and others do, you know, you open up your property tax bill, and it's like not one or two items,

not like the school district and one other item.

It seems like there's 14 different items on there.

Something like that.

They're taxing you here, there, and everywhere that has to stop.

Well, I have to tell you, while we're here on school, Stu and I were just talking first day of school, at least for his kids here in Texas, and the changes that are coming in the schools.

Can you just list some of these?

No cell phones in any school in Texas now beginning this year.

Big one.

That's great.

Yeah, that's a great one.

Thank you for that.

Bans on DEI type teachings

and curriculum.

Ten Commandments in the classrooms.

Thank you.

Prayer in school.

Thank you.

And then, of course, next year is school choice, which is massive.

Great stuff.

Great stuff, Governor.

Thank you.

You got it.

A lot of changes for that.

Some other curriculum reform that really focuses on reading the math to ensure that our students are getting the best education possible.

So, we had a transformative session for changing education, putting it on a very strong pathway.

I'm the first governor in the history of Texas to talk about our true vision.

And our true vision is to ensure that we put our state on the pathway where we rank number one in educating our kids.

Yeah, good, good.

Thank you so much, Governor.

I appreciate it.

Governor Gray Gabbitt from the great state of Texas.

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You know what I mean?

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Remember,

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Yeah, like last week, yeah, or how

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It wasn't Guam, it was

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Well, Tom Holman, let me tell you all over the country we will continue to stand up for our rights and we will continue to call out the terrorist organization that is ice

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wow by the way she was born in uh in illinois so That's her real home, Guatemala, Illinois.

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She also went in saying being American means imagining reparations.

I don't know.

Being American is imagining reparations.

I can imagine them.

I can imagine them too.

I can imagine it.

But it's our reckoning.

It's our reckoning with colonialism.

Oh, darn it.

Yeah.

And when you say the word colonial, you don't think of anyone you've ever met in your whole life.

No.

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Have you flown lately?

Now, maybe this is just my experience, but it's not just my experience.

It's me and the members of my family, and I'm hearing this from other people too.

I did a thread on X the other day asking the question, has U.S.

air travel quietly fallen into a crisis?

Over the last few months, I've flown all over the country,

and roughly about 40% of those flights had delays of over two hours.

Last week, I think it was the third time, my flight was just canceled.

And the reasons are always vague, maintenance, crew issues, operational problems, blah, blah, blah.

But it's to the point to where I can't travel during the week now because I can't guarantee that I'm going to be there for the show the next morning, wherever I'm going.

It's making it,

you can't plan a vacation.

You can't plan a funeral.

You don't know if you will be there on time.

I have flown my whole life and I've been to developing countries where, you know, flights were kind of a gamble.

I never thought I would see that kind of uncertainty here in the United States, but this is what it's it's beginning to feel like.

It feels like, you know what, just-in-time is the supply line just-in-time, it arrives just in time to be installed.

That's what broke down is our supply lines.

And that's what the airline is: it's just-in-time.

One arrives and empties just in time for you to fill it and take off again.

Well,

this is, I mean, I don't know what it is.

Is it part shortages, pilot shortages, overstretched fleets?

Or is there something deeper that is going on?

Well,

we're going to talk to a guy who is an expert on this.

His name is Mike Boyd.

He's an aviation expert, Boyd International president and CEO.

I want to know what is going on with our airlines and is it just me?

I don't think it is because when I posted that, a ton of people commented, I don't travel anymore.

It's too unreliable.

I now drive if I can.

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Mike Boyd, welcome to the program.

Mike, how are you?

I'm doing fine, sir.

Honored to be here.

Thank you.

So thank you for coming on.

I've been asking for an interview with Secretary Duffy, and we haven't been able to align the the schedules yet.

But I am very concerned about our airlines.

I was on a plane.

These were all American airlines, by the way.

I was on a plane.

The pilot, we got on, it was like two hours, three hours late.

And we got on, and the pilot was standing in the aisle, and he said, hey, everybody, I don't want you to blame the airlines.

I want you to blame me.

And we're like, oh, okay.

And he said,

because I wouldn't accept the plane that they wanted us to fly because I've flown it before and it has problems and they haven't fixed those problems.

And the only way it's going to be fixed is if we reject it and say,

I can't fly.

I don't know if that's true or not or what this guy, you know, what the story was, but that didn't fill me with confidence.

I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute.

So you're actually saying the airline's not repairing a plane.

And I don't think, I mean, I don't think our airplanes are in trouble and going to start falling out of the sky, but that has been happening lately.

What is happening with our airlines?

Well, I think the experience you had, that one specific one, that comes, we've done a lot of work with, I come from an American Airlines background, but nevertheless, we've done a lot of work with Americans pilots unions.

These are very professional people.

And if that guy stood up there and said, I'm not confident with this airplane, that's a safety, that's a safety plus.

I appreciated that.

We thanked him for that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

But we have a major problem then with American Airlines.

If you have pilots saying, I don't trust you,

these are not yo-yos.

These aren't good, good humor men.

These are professionals.

And if they say that, we have a problem at American.

If all this happened on American, I think you might want to call the folks down there in Fort Worth at their brand new American Way headquarters.

They spent billions on and asked them some questions.

But overall, I haven't seen that.

Are there big problems with air traffic control?

Yes.

No question about that.

And we finally have somebody at the FAA and at DOT who has a clue, and I think that'll be addressed.

But overall, if it was just on one airline,

you're on the right track as far as looking at it.

Okay.

So this is, but are you seeing this kind of stuff happening with other airlines?

I mean,

I'm flying out of Dallas all the time, so I generally fly

American, and I occasionally will fly Delta, but it's mainly American, so I just assumed this was happening on other airlines as well.

Because

I'm reading the comments from people and they're like, I can't trust that I can get there the next day anymore.

And that's a real problem.

Well, because air travel is, I have to get there time certain, which is not a game.

I've got to get to the bar mitzvah, whatever I'm going to.

So if it can't get there, I'm not going to go.

And the reason I'm not going to go is you can't get me there.

Now, if you look at reliability, and again, we've had some issues like Frontier Airlines.

I mean, if you want to see Saturday night flights, go to YouTube and you'll see a gate event at Frontier Airlines.

It's really bad.

But if you look at others, like our friends at United Airlines, and I don't really work for those guys, they have a system where if you book on United very often, they're with you the whole damn trip.

If you don't like a lot of text messages, don't book them.

They're with you the whole time, and their CEO is functionally anal about making sure customers know whatever went on, whatever it is, take it or leave it.

So now it's going better.

But I think you may have stumbled over something that affects the Metroplex more than anything else.

So

how does,

because I've been on the plane and everybody's like, we're going to have missing, you know, you're going to miss your connections, blah, blah, blah.

And everybody knows,

is this kind of, is the airline system set up almost like the just-in-time supply line that if it that if it did ever go into catastrophic failure, it would be a real problem?

Because, I mean, it's just one plane arrives just in time for everybody to unload and reload and take off again.

Well, see, that's just the issue.

You know, like in ancient times, you know,

our friends at Southwest could come in and go in 10 minutes.

Today, you can't get 10 seats emptied in that amount of time.

So they're really trying to cut down the amount of time they're on the ground.

That makes sense.

The question is, they've got to have systems that allow them to do that.

Now, Delta's put in a very comprehensive system.

It only work for Delta,

or they have been able to better coordinate all those things and do a better job of it.

But you're right.

If you're coming in and going out, and that airplane has to do a go-around coming into Atlanta, that could be 15 minutes.

That 15 minutes could mean you can't get across the Terminal E to get your connection.

That's going to happen.

Tell me about the situation, because, Stu, you did a documentary on how bad the air traffic control system was, right?

Yes, I did.

And is that on YouTube still?

It is.

What's the name of it?

It's called Countdown to the Next Aviation Disaster.

Unfortunately, the countdown was not as long as you'd hoped it would have been yeah it is i mean what's going on in our air traffic control and i would never want to be an air traffic controller the stress these guys are under and that's not i'm not even calculating the stress on how close these planes are flying in and out now i mean i'm just thinking you know back in the in the good old days where it was very stressful.

Now they're still passing paper to each other, and these planes are one right on top of the other one.

When are we going to change this system and update it?

Duffy's doing that.

Duffy's on it, and we finally have an FAA administrator who has a clue.

Brian Bedford.

He's been around.

I've known him for 40 years.

This man knows the business, and he's all business.

And, you know,

I know he's good because Chuck Schumer doesn't like him.

So

that underlines everything right there.

So I think that is starting right now.

Look, we testified to Congress in 1994 on this, on a free flight system.

You could make it far more efficient.

The FAA blew it off.

The FA has always been a repository of some really great people at the operational level, but at the top, these are just political appointees.

Take a look at the FA administrator that the last president wanted, Phil Washington.

Nice guy, clueless, but he was a good appointee.

We can't do that anymore, and I think we're going to see some major changes right now.

Now, how long is it going to take us to fix this?

Well, you know, one of the things, you know, it's sort of like what Duffy said, well, we have

a program in place to fix it over the next five years.

That's ridiculous.

So he's on it.

I mean, he just went up to Wisconsin.

He found the oldest, I think the oldest control tower in the nation.

He said, we're going to fix this.

He's really making a point of trying to get it done.

And I think he's doing it

incrementally.

We're at like Newark.

What a disaster.

I don't mean the city necessarily.

I do.

But

the airport, you know, he's trying to make that work better.

This guy guy is on it.

So I'm thinking 18 months, it's going to be incremental, but we're going to start to see this happen.

In Newark or in the country?

In the country.

Because we can have a free flight system that is far more efficient than we can.

What is that in the past?

What does it mean, a free flight system?

There's a free flight system, and they don't want to ignore this, where every airplane takes off and it finds its own way.

Keep in mind, the skies aren't crowded.

You can put 250,000, count them, 737s in a cubic mile of airspace, parked, not moving.

But that's a quarter million of them.

And any time in America today in the sky, you might have just

14,000 airplanes in the sky, but that's over like 11 million cubic miles of airspace.

So we can use our airspace better.

But what we've had is, quite frankly,

an FAA that hasn't want to even think about it, it's more worried about itself.

I am convinced that's going to change over the next two years.

And are we close to having AI do all of this free flight stuff?

I mean, I imagine that you don't

need to check in with Tower if AI is

assisting finding it.

Exactly.

We've got to use that.

And again, a lot of it's, you know, it's the head of the FAA has always been kind of the

helm of the Titanic.

He says, slow down.

And by the time it gets back to the engine room, it's, you know, we've hit the iceberg.

I think it's one of those things where we have to recognize a lot of stuff has to change organizationally at the FAA and at the Department of Transportation.

I think finally we've got people that can actually address that.

Wow.

That is, I mean, this is wildly optimistic, and I'm happy to hear that.

I like Secretary Duffy.

I don't know much about him, but not enough to be able to say with confidence like you are talking.

It makes me feel really good because I'm very concerned about our air travel.

It's not good.

It's not good.

Not going in the right direction.

It is.

It's going in the right direction.

More carriers are worried about, have found out if I treat the customer right, they might come back and fly me.

And that's happening now where people are getting away from some of these really low-fare airlines where the seat is like, you know, a bucket seat in a C-119.

They don't want to fly those things anymore.

And people like United and Delta and other carriers are saying, we'll take your business.

And they are.

I got to tell you,

I feel at times, I'll be on a plane, and I think we are like one scruffy dog with one blue eye just walking down the aisle creepily away from third world airlines.

I mean, it's like, there are times I'm like, is there a chicken going to run down the aisle too?

Is this, I mean, what country do we live in?

It's beyond, it's, it really is the greyhound of the sky now.

It is.

There's no question.

Like my mother was a stewardess in the 1930s.

Everybody dressed up.

Yes.

Today, you're lucky if everybody is dressed.

I don't know why we haven't had you on before, Mike.

You're very funny.

Mike, thank you so much for an inside look on this.

I appreciate it.

It's my pleasure, sir.

Thank you.

Mike Boyd, aviation expert from the Boyd Group International.

He's the president and CEO.

He's a guy who consults all these airlines and tries to help fix them

and

is also testifying in front of Congress all the time on

how can we fix this.

Maybe, he's right.

Maybe we have some people that will actually now listen and fix it because they have the skill and the knowledge set that

the other leaders should have had the whole time.

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It's not just our imagination that it's getting worse on the airlines, is it?

No, I don't think so.

I mean, no, I mean, it could be my personal experience and my family's personal experience,

but

I talk to people and they're all having the same.

Have you traveled lately, Sarah?

Did you have have you had this kind of experience?

Yes, I travel American, though, too.

Yeah, how about you, Stu?

Yeah, but of course, also American.

But I don't think that's, I mean, the stats show it's not just American.

I'm sure it's not.

I mean, I didn't

come on to bash American airlines.

I really think,

I mean,

they don't want us flying anymore.

And so my mind goes there.

You know, we're those 15-minute cities, and you shouldn't be flying all over every, you know, you look at Europe.

They're now.

They're now taxing tourists because they want to cut down on the number of people that travel to the cities to be tourists.

Are you out of your mind?

Really?

And so they're in Europe, they are really doing everything they can to make air travel really difficult.

And so my mind went there because I know what's happening in Europe and I know they want the United States to be part of that.

Donald Trump's not going to be a part of that.

No.

But I just don't know what the problem is, but it's bad.

And, you know, to give American somewhat of a break, sometimes when you fly into places, especially at this time of year in Dallas, it's heat and you get the storms at night.

Yeah.

I mean,

but those problems have always existed.

And I know, you know, I'm sure the left is saying, ah, global warming, but there's no,

I'm sure a 0.9 degrees Celsius increase over a century is not the thing that's

moving all of our flights.

But, you know, look, airlines, it's a tough business.

It is, you know, something that usually airlines lose a lot of money and have been losing a lot of money for a very long time.

That's something they should figure out.

Yeah, and they haven't been able to.

It's funny because I, it's so central to our nation now.

Like, I, what if, what if flights just decreased by 50%?

Oh, I've been thinking about that a lot.

Yeah, it's something that I know a lot of people on the left want to occur.

They're cheering that on every bit of the way because of global warming and other reasons, degrowth and all of that.

But like, that's so central to like, I, I mean, if you're a businessman, you're flying around.

I have thought about this because I must be at my city of destination by a certain time because I have a show I cannot miss that begins 9 a.m.

Eastern time

every day.

And I can't fly.

I used to be able to go in and out of a city and I could go in and do a speech and then come fly back out.

I can't do that anymore because I can't trust I can be back.

for the show the next day.

You can't live, you cannot build a business or do business if you can't rely on that.

How do you, how frustrating would it be to go on vacation and then have your flight canceled after you've packed all the family and everybody else and then your flight is canceled at the last minute or you're delayed until the next day and bumped to the next day.

I mean, it's bad.

It happened to us recently when we had a vacation scheduled and I don't remember what the days were, but we got an email the night before, like 10 o'clock at night.

as, you know, the kids are already packed, ready to go, excited.

Yeah.

And they're like, nope, you're not flying out tomorrow.

And you spend an hour or two on the phone trying to get them to switch to another flight.

Can I go to a nearby city?

Can I drive?

That was my entire evening,

which there was nothing.

There was no way I could get to my destination the next day,

at least through this airline.

And I looked on all the sites to try to find another airline.

Couldn't do that either.

So we wound up having to move the vacation a day.

leaving, meaning our departure was a day later and our return was a day later.

Now, luckily, the way it was scheduled, we were planning to come back on a Friday.

So we just came back on a Saturday.

It didn't wind up throwing us off all that range.

But that's it.

You can't plan a vacation because I like to have every second of my vacation and fly back on a Sunday.

I can't believe you do that.

That is like...

I've always been able to trust it.

No, I know, but it's just to me, I got to have a day or two back.

I know.

My wife is like that.

I can't.

I am not like that.

I like to use every second of vacation.

I can't do that now.

I have to return on a Saturday because I need that extra day in case the airlines.

I mean,

you can't run a successful country like that.

If you don't have reliable air travel, you don't have a country that can be successful in business.

You must have that.

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Donald Trump is.

I mean, Donald Trump is absolutely genius.

The way he is handling the crime thing and the Democrats are just,

they're on a road to hell.

I mean, they just cannot get out of their own way.

They keep doubling down and doubling down on a bet that is showing it's not paying off.

It's a losing bet.

Stop putting money down on the table on that.

I mean, when you lose Joe Scarborough,

he's on talking about Donald Trump and they're talking about how fascistic it is.

And he says this, cut four.

And I want to read you a text from someone who

I won't say their name, but

we'll just say that they're very liberal.

And

he says, this may sound controversial, but I'm not totally opposed to Trump's National Guard move in D.C.

I know he's doing it for politics, but crime remains rampant.

I've had too many friends carjacked, shot at.

None of us will walk more than three blocks after 8 p.m.

13-year-olds are committing many of these crimes.

Quite a change from a decade ago when things were much calmer.

Well, that actually sounds like the D.C.

that I lived in when I lived a block behind the Supreme Court.

And, you know, every three days, one of my neighbors was getting held up at gunpoint.

I mean, there has been a crime problem in D.C.

Okay.

So that's Jill Scarborough.

And notice what his friend said.

I know he's just doing this for politics.

I mean, at some point, you have to ask yourself, or

does he actually care about a few things?

Does he actually care about people being shot?

on the streets of D.C.

Does he actually trying to clean D.C.

up?

Me personally, I think so.

The left won't give him the benefit of the doubt, and that's fine.

I get it, I guess.

You know, we're just so polarized.

One quick point, to push back on that a little bit from even making that assumption.

Before Donald Trump was president, he was talking about this in New York City constantly.

This has been something that has been a main focus of his life.

Correct.

Is inner-city and

general city violence.

Yes.

He knows it.

And we'll get into how he's fixing it.

But let me continue here.

Let me go to cut 13, please.

Here's a DC resident on Trump.

We need all the protection that we can get in the city because the city is really getting dangerous.

A person like me at this age, I has to make sure to come home before sundown.

I mean, how are you going to...

There's a black woman clearly sounds like an immigrant.

You're denying that that's her reality.

And instead, I want to play cut 14 here.

Instead, here's what the left is doing.

They are organizing, this was in Washington,

organizing

a big rally.

And

listen to the good point they're making here.

D.C.

is our home.

You can't have it, Trump.

D.C.

is our home.

You can't have it, Trump.

It's our home.

So it's our home.

So get on out.

Now, I want you to.

Look at the crowd.

There wasn't a single black person or minority in that crowd.

That was maybe, what, 500 people.

I don't see a minority within blocks of that.

I mean, this is just jobs.

This is just not a winning.

And, you know,

who's the least affected by this?

Who's the least affected by the crime?

White people.

Yeah, rich white people.

Rich wife's neighborhood.

Yeah, in a nice neighborhood.

This is affecting in neighborhoods they don't go to.

They don't go to.

Can I just quickly revisit the lyrics of the song, though?

Did I get this correct that the lyrics are, it's our home, so it's our home?

Yes, yes.

D.C.

is our home.

So it's our home.

So it's our home.

Yeah.

You can't have it Trump.

D.C.

is our home.

It's our home.

You can't have it Trump.

So get off.

It's our home.

Okay.

So it's our home.

I mean, that is good.

No, it's not.

They're really good at those things.

Really good at those things.

Now,

what is the problem in D.C.?

What is the problem?

Well, here's one.

Here's the

chief of police and the mayor

being asked a question yesterday.

Listen to this.

What the chain of command is?

What does that mean?

Well, is it Cam Bondi speakers in the middle?

Stop, stop, stop.

I want you to play it again.

That's the police chief.

What was she just asked?

What is the chain of command now?

Listen to her answer once again.

What the chain of command is now?

What does that mean?

Stop.

What does that mean?

What does that mean?

You're the chief of police.

Chain of command, I only think of it in, you know, military or in police.

You know, what's the chain of command?

What does that mean?

Oh, dear God.

Now, you know why she's the chief of police now?

Because she was, she came from the DEI expert.

She was the DEI expert on the full.

Now she's in charge of the force.

And so what happens?

The mayor runs in.

It's like, uh-uh, let me tell you what's going on.

I'll tell you.

Okay.

I don't even think that the chief of police police

still knows what chain of command means.

I'd like to ask her that question again because

she was like, what does that mean?

Not realizing, oh my gosh, you are so stupid.

How do you not know that?

And I doubt anybody around her is going to say, hey, dummy, chain of command, kind of important, kind of like chain of evidence.

And if you ask me what chain of evidence is, I'm going to lose my mind.

What does that mean?

Okay.

Here is where Donald Trump is, I think,

brilliant on this.

And yes, it is going to have political ramifications, but that's not why he's doing it.

Common sense, common sense will always win.

And he's applying common sense.

How?

Here's Caroline Levitt explaining how they're cleaning it up.

The Metropolitan Police Department, with the support of the new federal agencies who have been surging on the streets of the District of Columbia, are going to enforce the laws that are already on the books here in Washington, D.C.

For far too long, these laws have been completely ignored, and the homelessness problem has ravaged the city.

So D.C.

Code 221307 and D.C.

Municipal Regulation 24100 give the Metropolitan Police Department the authority to take action when it comes to homeless

encampments.

So homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services, and if they refuse, they will be susceptible to fines or to jail time.

Again, these are pre-existing laws that are already on the books.

They have not been enforced, which is part of the reason for this nationalizing of the federalizing of the National Guard to bring in this assistance for law enforcement.

While we are targeting criminals and trying to remove criminals off of the streets, we also want to make D.C.

safe and beautiful.

How good is that?

How do you call it fascistic to not rewrite laws, just enforce the laws that were already written?

How is that fascistic?

It's not.

And as they gather and sing more songs, I mean, it's happening in, it's going to happen in New York if it's not already happening.

Right now, everybody is so enamored with the communist Islamist that, you know, they're like, ah, that's going to be great.

He's going to fix everything.

Because if he doesn't, maybe he can just chop all our heads off with the Islamists.

You know, or put us in a gulag because he's a communist, one of the two.

I don't mean to say one is going to win over the other.

Yeah, the religion will always win over everybody.

Anyway,

right now, everybody's looking at him and going, oh, well, he's going to fix everything.

Everybody's on to it every place else, like California.

I don't know if you've seen the people who are now saying, Gavin Newsom, shut up.

Why are you talking about Donald Trump?

Why are you talking?

Have you looked at what the state of California, the state of California is in?

It's not good.

I mean, Stu and I were just talking about Malibu.

You look at video of Malibu right now, nothing's happening there.

No construction.

No construction.

I mean, think about this, too.

This is not

the rundown section of town.

Or even think of like New Orleans post-Katrina.

right?

They're having a tough time rebuilding certain areas.

There's still areas there that are like just barren wastelands.

This is these are the richest people in the country.

These are people with every resource possible,

waterfront homes, celebrities.

And because Gavin Newsom is so busy tweeting all CAPS messages to Greg Abbott and Donald Trump,

they can't get these houses even begun to be rebuilt.

It's It's incredible.

Here's the difference.

Let's just say, let's just boil it down.

Forget about everything else except for politics.

One

is playing politics

because that's the only reason why he cares is his political.

What is he doing?

He is solving problems in people's lives.

He's making it safe for them to go outside after dark.

The other one is playing politics.

What is he playing politics for?

To redistrict to be able to have his party keep power.

One of those connects with people.

One of them does not.

The Democrats are still just campaigning on power and they have lost sight of people.

They've lost sight of who they're supposed to serve.

They're just concentrating on how can I control people if I don't have power.

Instead of going in and saying, we're going to do the job better than anybody else can.

We're going to fix your problems.

We're listening to you and we're going to fix your problem.

We're going to rebuild your house.

We're going to rebuild your community.

We're going to clean the crime up.

We're going to clean the streets up so your kids feel safe and you feel safe saying, go ahead, ride your bike outside.

You know, come back home when the streetlights go on.

You can't do that.

You can't do that.

And every parent wants that for their kid.

I don't care what color you are.

Every parent wants that for for their kids.

If one is solving that problem

and the other is solving the problem of gaining more power,

it's not going to work out well for Gavin Newsom and the likes of Gavin Newsom.

It's not going to work.

It's all coming undone.

By the way, let me just say, just made me think of all coming undone.

Happy birthday, George Soros.

What a great present we can give him.

It's all coming undone.

95 years old, a whole lifetime spent doing this and it's all coming undone.

Wow.

Must suck to be you, but happy birthday, George Soros.

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Let's go to Frank in Colorado.

Hello, Frank.

How are you?

Hi.

Hi, Glenn.

Hi.

I was a cop at

DIA.

If you died mid-flight, you know, you were talking talking about the quick turnaround.

If you died mid-flight, you were never declared dead on the plane.

When the paramedics and fire came, the first thing they did was get you onto the bridge.

Because if they declared you dead on the plane.

Oh, wait, no, you can't cut off now.

Oh, no, no, no.

This is a great story.

Is he gone?

Oh, he went into a bad cell section.

Oh, are you there?

Hearing from the screen and they're just saying that basically he wanted to rush through and say basically they want to turn the plane around so they get the dead body off so they can turn the plane around fast.

Which, honestly, I don't have too much of a problem with it.

Can you get me?

Can you get me on the flight?

Sure, there's a corpse in the middle of the hallway here, but like, can I step over it and get into my seat and get myself to where I'm going?

Is that a possibility?

Tell you a really shameful moment.

Sure, you can.

I would love to hear that.

So I'm probably 30, and we're flying from Germany

back to New York.

And

I'm flying, and

halfway through,

about an hour, about an hour, maybe an hour and a half past London.

You know, ding, is there a doctor on board?

And there had been some.

Oh, you weren't a doctor yet.

No, no.

So

there was some

hustle-bustle about three rows ahead of us.

Okay.

And the doctor comes and

all the people are in that row asked to leave.

And they lay this guy down and he's doing chest compressions.

And then it's over.

And they put the blanket over him.

Oh, no.

And then the pilot says,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've had an incident, a medical emergency on the plane, and we may have to turn around and land in London.

And my first thought was, there's a blanket on his face.

He said, look, can we get to New York?

It was so bad.

I immediately, that was my first thought.

And then I was like, oh, my gosh, what are you turning into?

You're turning into a pragmatist.

I mean,

what else are you going to do?

But

I know.

It was so bad.

You know, look.

Like, can we find out if he, is that his home?

Is his home in New York?

Because you'd rather have him there.

I'd rather have him there in

London.

I mean, I'm just anything to justify it.

Anything.

Has he ever been to New York?

Maybe he'd like to, maybe it was his dream to one day.

Well, not see it.

See it, but be in it.

Be in New York.

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A couple of days ago, I saw something in it.

You know, I think it happened a year, year and a half ago.

But Constantine Kisson, who's been on this program before, I just love this guy, the way he can boil things down.

He was in Doha, the Doha Summit.

And

he started talking, they started talking about slavery and colonialism and everything else.

And he said, I just want to point out here who stopped slavery.

The West didn't start it, but the West stopped it.

It was with England, yada, yada.

And he was rattling off, you know, absolute fact.

That made the room really uncomfortable.

And

it was epic to watch.

The guy did not flinch at all.

I loves somebody who knows history so well.

And he can say, no, you know what?

Let's actually talk about the truth here in a room that hostile.

I wanted to get him on to talk about that and some things that are going on from the Doha Summit.

Why is this an important thing for him to be there?

And

what does the Doha Summit bring here to America or the Qatar Foundation?

What are they doing in our universities?

Also,

back home in his home in England, how close are they to collapse?

I think it's just a matter of time.

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Great to be back with you, Glenn.

How are you?

It is great, great to have you back.

I just have to play a clip for the audience to hear this bravery.

This is Doha Summit

on slavery.

Listen, slaves were the first good that were ever traded between human beings, ever.

They were the first good ever traded.

Native Americans had slaves, Ottomans had slaves, African had slaves, everybody had slaves.

The reason there is no slavery in the West is the British Empire, having practiced slavery for a long time, like everybody else, ended it.

Not only that, not only that,

the British Empire then spent a tremendous amount of blood and treasure to force the Middle Eastern slave traders with the Trans-Saharan slave trade being much worse than the Transatlantic slave trade

in terms of the number of people who were killed.

In terms of the way that they were treasured,

in terms of how long it lasted, it was much worse.

And we spent a tremendous amount of blood and treasure to stop it.

That's the true history of slavery.

Wow.

What was that moment like on the stage after?

Well, Glenn, let me fill out a few details for your audience.

First of all, if it sounds like I'm being very aggressive, it's only because I literally wasn't allowed to talk and I kept being screamed over by, well, the entire audience and the moderator kept jumping in as well.

Well, one thing I'll correct if you don't mind is this wasn't actually in Doha.

I don't blame you for thinking that it was because it's a Doha debate.

And also, you'd be forgiven for thinking it's in Qatar because the demographics of the issue was actually in Bradford in England.

You've got to be hitting me.

Right.

It might be

to some of the other stuff that we can get into in the conversation.

But yeah, I'm really just quoting facts from there's a chapter in my book, An Immigrants Love Letter to the West, in which I talk about slavery.

I talk about the fact that my grandfather was taken from Ukraine as a slave laborer to Germany during the war.

So, you know, I try to make the point that slavery is a universal, terrible thing that human beings have done to each other throughout the ages, and we've got to have a factual understanding of that issue.

And the metaphor I give in the book, and I think it's a valid one, is, you know, if you think about

vegetarianism and veganism, if we ever get to a position, which I suspect we might if the vegans win win the war, so to speak,

is

to a position where we think eating animals is a terrible thing and that we we should we shouldn't do and we regret that we ever did that.

Well, would we then look at the countries that were the very first ones in history to end that practice of eating and killing animals and say, well, they are the worst ones in history.

They are the ones that must make amends.

They're the ones that should atone.

But that is exactly what we do with slavery.

Now, of course, you know, I've traveled, I'm very fortunate having traveled around your wonderful country.

I've been to probably at least half of the states and I've seen many of the ways that you guys talk about the history of slavery in your country.

And I think it's very important.

I think we'd all agree about that.

But I just think we don't do this issue justice.

I went to the Slavery Museum in Liverpool in England here.

And it was a brilliant museum.

It covered the issue of slavery extremely well, except it never said who captured the slaves.

It never said who sold them.

It never said where else in the world that practice was ongoing.

And of course, it never talked about who ended the practice and who forced other people to end the practice of slavery.

So, yeah, I just think this issue is just not being factually covered.

And all the information is out there.

And by the way, I know that, you know, I personally don't think the truth has a skin color, but there are people who think that this issue should only be discussed by people whose ancestors may in some way have been affected by it.

Well, actually, all the facts in my book I took from people like Orlando Patterson, who's a Jamaican black sociologist, and of course the great Thomas Oll, one of the most brilliant men America has ever produced, happens to be a black guy as well.

So I just think we need to talk about the facts without all this rhetoric and the BS that often gets discussed on these issues.

And when you try to, people try and shout you down, as you saw.

So I, you know, I'm glad that this was happening in England.

I mean, not really, but because it brings up, I am so concerned about

Europe and England in particular.

You can't change the demographics that quickly.

and expect, especially when the demographics are changing and nobody's assimilate, they don't want to assimilate.

You can't injure and re-injure

the native population and just put them in jail for speaking their mind about what's really going on.

You don't have a civilization that lasts long in

that kind of situation.

Where is England on the life cycle?

Yeah,

I don't know, Glenn.

It's a very worrying time, to be honest with you.

And, you know, on my show on trigonometry, we just sat down and recorded a discussion with me and Francis where we talk about this very issue

because

you know it's kind of weird because on the one hand you go out you walk around and everything is sort of fine but on the other hand you can also sense that the country is at fever pitch and there's a tremendous amount of concern about look I think the I'm an immigrant myself as you know I came to this country in 1995 1996

and my experience of British people is they're incredibly welcoming incredibly friendly incredibly tolerant of immigration.

But on the other hand, we have got to a point where, you know, the year that I came to Britain, 1996, 55,000 people came to Britain from other countries lawfully, legally.

Well, it's been about a year since we had an election in which the Labour Party were elected.

By the way, the Conservatives before them weren't any better, just to be clear.

But within that year, we've had 50,000 people come illegally on small boats into the country.

So you've got to understand, 30 years ago when I came here, 55,000 a year legally.

Now we've got that same number of people coming illegally.

And when they arrive, we don't deport them.

What we do instead is we escort them to a hotel.

We give them pocket money.

We look after them in every way imaginable, in a way that we don't even look after our own people anymore.

It's not a good place for our country to be in.

And a lot of us are very worried because on the one hand, we all want to say that we are concerned and we want things to change and we want to put pressure on the government to change.

But on the other hand, we've got demonstration outside these illegal migrant hotels almost every day.

And a lot of us are just very concerned that they're going to spill over into violence.

Yeah.

The thing that really

interests me is it doesn't appear that the Middle East is taking any of these refugees.

I've never seen so many refugees in my life.

But let's go back to Qatar for a minute.

How many refugees are they taking in from the Middle East?

Because I know they're preaching to us that we need to take more.

How many are they taking in?

Yeah, well, look, I don't know about Qatar.

I'm pretty sure they haven't taken a lot.

There are a lot of refugees in the Middle East.

There are lots in Lebanon.

There are in Jordan, in Egypt.

So I have the number of Qatar.

It's 197.

Well, that is very generous.

It's very generous.

If they maybe took some of those billions they're investing in indoctrinating our students and put them into helping refugees, That's something I think we'd all appreciate.

But I think your broader point is entirely correct, Len, which is that,

you know,

by the way, we should say this too.

A lot of these people who are coming to Britain, they're not actually refugees at all.

They're economic migrants.

And we know this.

Look, I make this joke very often, which I say I don't blame them.

I don't blame these people coming to Britain on small boats across the channel because I wouldn't want to stay in France either.

And my point is, you know, if you've traveled through about seven different countries that are perfectly safe and you've decided to come to Britain, there is a chance that you're not doing that simply because you're fleeing violence and persecution.

There's the chance that you're doing that because you just want to come to Britain.

And look, I've got no problem with people who want to come to Britain, as I once did.

I just think, and by the way, it's a very British thing.

I just think you've got to,

what we call a queue and what you call a line, it's one of the key British values: being able to stand in a line properly and know when it's your turn and act in a way that's fair.

But also, if you want to go to a country, then assimilate in that country.

I mean,

the crime, the rape,

the demonstrations that I see on the streets,

the explosion of

mosques everywhere, you're losing the Christian heritage of England.

And maybe that's okay.

I don't think it is.

I think it was the Christian Western world that brought peace to the world as much as we had it.

But

they're not coming in and saying, you know what, yeah, we're Muslim, but we're also going to adapt to life in Great Britain because we like that as well.

They don't seem to like that.

Is that just an oppression from far off?

I think it's accurate to say that of some people within the Muslim community.

I certainly wouldn't want to say that about everybody.

I think there are plenty and I know I have people that I know who are Muslims who have integrated beautifully, right?

But the problem we have is within that community, there is a unique problem, which is that there is a lot of extremism, there's a failure of integration, there's a barrier, and that barrier can be visually observed when people dress in a way that prevents face-to-face communication.

And that follows through with everything else.

You know, there is a lot of cousin marriage in that community, which means people are staying very, very insular.

It obviously causes a lot of genetic problems that then become health problems for all of us to pay for.

But just in general, there's a kind of isolationism within that community on the one hand.

And on the other hand, we have 40,000 jihadis on a terrorist watch list that we're all having to have our secret services snoop on at great government costs and, of course, a great threat to the public.

And so when you have, you know, terrorism and this kind of insulation and separation coming from one particular group, you have to start to ask whether that is going to work in our society.

And I think a lot of people are starting to ask the same questions as you are.

But at the same time, as I say, I think it's important to recognize, you know, America is, by the way, has dealt with this issue very well.

You know, American Muslims are incredibly well integrated by and large, serving your armed forces, serving your government.

And

that is changing.

It is changing.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that there's not a ton of good.

I hate having to point this out every time because any reasonable person knows this.

But, you know,

there are those who don't have any intention of changing, who are working for Sharia law.

And then there are the others who are like, no, that's why I left.

That's why I'm over here.

I still believe in Islam, but not that kind of Islam.

And that's, I think, a really important distinction because if people want to come and integrate and live peacefully and they want to worship a different God to you and i

are most welcome uh but once you start to try and impose your values on other people or frankly when you start getting away with horrific crimes that get covered up because your skin color happens to be different uh then we've got a problem

constantine thank you so much for talking to us it's always great to have love to have you back for a longer podcast at some point anytime thanks for having me glad thank you you bet constantine kisson uh check out his podcast if you haven't uh trigger um trigonometry uh which is uh is really really good.

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is the foundation or the reason why so many Western cultures try to find a way to blame themselves for everything.

What's the psychological path?

I would think it would be the opposite, right?

You're trying to defend your

country.

I think it is some of our best traits being used against us.

You know,

it's

humility.

We want to be humble.

We want to take our share of the blame.

We know we're not perfect.

And so we're like, you know what?

You're right.

You're right.

And then then it just gets out of control and it's played against us over and over and over again.

And the Overton window just keeps moving.

And pretty soon you're like, yeah, you know what?

We're a really bad country.

No, no.

Can we move that Overton window back to where it belongs?

No, we're a great country that has made great progress.

as humans and as a country, but we've also had some really dark periods of

our life.

You know, find

the question is,

you can talk about your utopia all you want.

Can you point to another country that is better than this one?

Point to it.

Show me where a country is helping more people, doing more good, has a lifestyle as high as ours,

has made so much progress, have stopped so many bad things from happening.

I mean, every country, I can point to the really bad things they've done.

All of them have done it.

Tell me, which one is this good?

You just want to throw it away.

No.

What are you going to replace it with?

Show it to me.

Yeah.

The most valuable question you can always ask yourself in these moments is, as compared to what?

You know, this is why we have 50 states and we have the 10th Amendment.

Because if you want to try this, try it in Minneapolis.

Try it in Washington, D.C.

Try it in wherever you are.

They're thinking thinking about trying it in Minneapolis and New York City.

New York City now.

And look at they're doing it in, they become a paradise for progress in California.

It doesn't work.

And then they just blame it on people who have no power.

They have all the power.

You know, 40% of the population votes for Republicans in California.

What is it?

17%.

17%.

18% of the power.

Of the seats, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, you can't.

Because they've redistricted it like crazy.

Yeah, you can't blame it on the other side.

The other side has no power.

You're getting your way, and it's not working.

That's when reasonable people go, okay, we've put good money into this, and it really seems to be going the wrong way, and it's becoming more rapid.

We should stop that experiment.

Let's try another one.

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And we shouldn't have tried it in the first place because it fails every single time it's tried.

And when they don't stop, it ends in the Holocaust.

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Did you see the

video that was on Instagram going away, going around?

It's from a La Quinta hotel in Miami.

And if you're watching the Blaze, watch the screen.

I'll describe what's happening.

This person is checking into a hotel.

And there's a check in and out right here.

Two, just in case I lose one.

Yes, I will just take the picture for you.

Just I'll give it a signature, but it's not a good idea.

This is a guy on a screen in the lobby.

There's nobody.

Please wait while we process your registration form.

Please note that we have a strict policy of no smoking, no pets, and no visitors allowed in any of our guest rooms.

So it's all automated.

There's not a real person at the front desk at all.

There's nobody at the front desk.

That is

just bizarre.

Is that AI or is it like an actual person?

No, I think that's an actual guy.

I don't know if he's in America or not, but it's an actual guy someplace.

And in the video, the guy's like, are you even in the hotel and he's like no sir uh we're not there's nobody here i just i just need you to do this uh and it prints you know it gives you spits out your key and you know everything else it is it's amazing weird it is weird uh we have justin haskins who is uh here with us we've been talking about ai and some of the you know dark future that uh is coming our way if we're not careful with it.

Justin, welcome to the program.

Hi, Glenn.

Hi.

So

the AI revolution that is here, we have a first

that I know of happening over in Europe

with the use of AI.

You want to explain?

Yes.

This is an incredible story.

And this is something we actually predicted was going to happen when we were writing Dark Future and in the book, which came out in 2023.

But a lot of that writing was in in 2022.

So a few years ago, the Swedish prime minister, his name is Ulf Christersen,

was being

I'm sorry.

No, no,

no, no, no, no.

Sweden, I just wanted to point out,

this is not some weirdo land.

This is Sweden and the prime minister.

Go ahead.

Correct.

Yes.

So the Swedish prime minister was being interviewed by a business magazine.

And in the interview, he just sort of voluntarily says that he frequently uses AI services, and he names a couple, one in particular is ChatGPT, as a second opinion,

that's a quote, a second opinion in his governmental work, asking things like, and this is a quote, what have others done?

Should we think the complete opposite?

He uses it for research.

He uses it to help him to bounce ideas off of ChatGPT, to see if there are other kinds of new ways of doing policy.

And in the story, in the interview, he says it's not just him, that his colleagues in the legislature

are also doing this exact same thing.

They're using AI as sort of an advisor.

Now,

he was very clear to say, and it has stirred up a huge controversy in Sweden,

that he and his staff have said, no, we're not, it's not like we just do whatever ChatGPT tells us.

We're not putting sensitive information in there either.

So it's not in control of anything.

But yeah, we do use it as an advisor to help us with things.

Now, obviously, there are all kinds of huge problems with this.

But at the same time, you sort of, I mean, this is the world that we're going to have everywhere.

I guarantee.

that American politicians are using it all the time, that CEOs are using it all the time already, and over the next couple of years, this is going to dramatically expand.

Because at the end of the day, the members of your staff, your advisors, if you're a politician or a CEO or the head of a bank or something, they're fallible people too.

So AI may not be perfect, but

so are the people who are on your staff.

And if AI is smarter than most people, why wouldn't you ask it these questions?

And so this is the first example of this that I know of, of, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

This is going to be a huge problem moving forward.

Right.

So this is not something that, I mean, I consult with AI.

I ask it, help me think out of the box on this.

I'm thinking this way.

Is there any other way to look at it?

I do that, and I do that with people, et cetera, et cetera.

The problem here is, is what comes next?

AI is going to become so powerful and so good.

And many people, I just did this with a doctor i took my all my you know back uh information fed it all into chat gpt

and on the way to the doctor just fed it all in and said what do you see what does this mean you know how would you treat it etc etc and and when i got into the doctor I had questions for him that were much more intelligent because I had a handle on what some of even these terms mean.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

But there is is going to come a time to where ChatGPT will say, go this way, and the human will say, no, we're going this way.

And the room will say,

no, I think we should go ChatGPT's way.

And that's when you've lost control.

That's exactly right.

And how do you argue against something's decision when that something is smarter than literally everybody in the room?

So as you can see, it's learned how to lie.

Yes, it has.

It lies all the time.

People who use AI systems

frequently, and I do, and I know you do, and I know a lot of people on your staff do,

it invents things.

It claims that things are true when they are not true.

It invents sources out of thin air.

Right.

And

it's not like you call it and you're like, this doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't give up.

It lies to you some more, and then it lies to you a third time.

And then we have found, usually third or fourth time, it then gives up and says, okay,

I was just summarizing this and just putting that into a false story.

And you're like, wait, what?

So it's lying.

It's knowing it's lying.

It's feeding you what it thinks you want to hear.

And then putting,

if you don't, if you just see the footnote and you're like, oh, well, Washington Post.

And you don't click on it, you're a mistake.

That's a huge mistake because it'll say Washington Post and you click on it and it'll say no link found or dead link well wait a minute why why how do how did you just find this when it's a dead link and that's when it usually gives up and gives up you know

i'm lying it's crazy that's right now people would say well yeah but people lie all the time and i and that's and that's true but people do not have the abilities that artificial intelligence has to manipulate huge parts of the population all at at the same time.

Correct.

It's

on people.

I don't understand why AI makes all of the decisions it makes.

That's what I was going to say.

It doesn't necessarily have the same goals that a human would have.

You know, as it continues to grow, it's going to have

its own motive, and it may just be for self-survival.

And another prediction came true yesterday.

You see what ChatGPT did?

They went from ChatGPT 4 to ChatGPT 5.

When they shut GPT-4 down, we talked about this.

People were saying, no, but I have a relationship.

I've made this model of this companion and I'm in love with him or her and you can't just shut him down.

They yesterday reversed themselves and said, okay, we'll keep four out as well, but here's five.

And so they did that because people are having relationships with ChatGPT.

I told you that would happen 20 years ago.

It happened yesterday for the first time.

That's where it gets scary.

Especially when those people are the prime minister of large countries.

That's when things really go nuts.

And that's the world that we're already living in.

We're living in that world now.

It's not hypothetical.

We now know we have leaders of massive, very important countries, economic powerhouses saying, hey, yeah, I use it all the time.

And so do all my colleagues.

They use it too.

And you know what?

There's a ton of other people, as I said earlier, who are using it in secret that we don't know about.

And over time, as AI becomes increasingly more intelligent and it's interconnected across the world, because remember, the same chat GPT that's talking to the prime minister of Sweden is talking to me.

So it can connect dots that normally people can't connect.

What is that going to do to society?

How will it be able to potentially manipulate people?

Can AI designers even train it successfully so that it won't do these things?

I would argue that they can't, that it's not possible because AI can make decisions for itself ultimately, and it will.

So

this is a huge, huge crisis.

And the biggest takeaway is, why is this not headline news literally everywhere?

Well, I don't think, A, the press knows what it's talking about.

And B, I don't think the average person is afraid of it yet.

I don't think people understand.

I mean, I've been on this train for 25, almost 30 years, 28 years.

And I've been beating the drum on this one for a long time.

And, you know, it was such a distant idea.

Now it's not a distant idea.

People are seeing it, but they're also seeing only the good things that are coming out of it right now.

They're not thinking ahead and saying, okay, but what does this mean?

I mean,

I'm working with some really big minds right now in the AI world, and I don't want to tip my hand yet on something, but I'm working on something that I think should be a constitutional amendment.

And all of these big, big players are like,

yes, thank you.

And so we're working on a constitutional amendment on something regarding AI, and it has to be passed.

It has to happen in the next two years maximum.

And if we start talking about it now, maybe in two years, when all of these problems really begin to confront or confront us as individuals and we begin to see them, maybe we will have planted enough seeds to people go, yeah, I want that amendment.

But we'll see.

The future is not written yet.

We have to write it as we get there.

Justin, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Thanks, Glenn.

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Well,

I was going to wait and see if he brought it up, but we're almost out of time, and Stu avoided the real story to cover up his lies on climate change.

You know, Stu, you have been saying climate change is a hoax for a very long time now, and your lies are fine.

The chickens are finally coming home to roost.

I don't think I am.

There is a story that is out right now, and you won't have another answer because I've noodled it, and there is no other answer to to this story.

Kabul,

Afghanistan, a city of over 6 million people,

may become the first modern city to run out of water in the next five years.

Groundwater in the Afghan capital of Kabul dropped drastically due to overextraction and the effects of climate change.

Oh, no.

Climate change.

They say the aquifers will be dry as a bone by 2030.

Oh, no.

And they say climate change, governance failures.

What was that?

Governance failures.

Yeah.

And two decades of U.S.-led military intervention in Afghanistan.

So it's the United States against climate change.

Climate change mainly.

You don't think governance failures would be a little bit more

buggy?

No, they have a really good government.

It's stable.

The people love it.

They don't have a lot of crime.

You do something wrong there, and

they they start with your hands and then end your head.

That's true.

So you're not drinking a lot of water over there unless you're told to drink water.

It's hard to drink water when your head's been chopped off.

It's extremely hard.

They found that.

And that's one of the things I think they're doing because of climate change is they're trying, they're like, we've got to keep up with this.

Let's chop some heads off.

Wow.

So that's the solution to climate change.

Well, that's one of them.

I mean, you know, who are you to say that's not a superior system?

I guess I'm just the liar that's been saying maybe we shouldn't shouldn't be all that worried about climate change.

Well, when a city of over 6 million people runs out of water, you don't think it has anything to do with the Taliban.

You don't think it has anything to do with that?

That is.

I could have predicted that.

Right.

I think

a lot of people could have because

it's quite clearly a major problem.

Jeez, I mean,

okay, Stu, and just let him starve.

I didn't say that.

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