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I don't know.

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Oh, is that what you're doing?

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How are you?

Wonderful, Glenn.

How are you?

My gosh, just so great.

Friday.

Friday.

It's Friday.

It's been a long, it's a very, very, very long week.

And if you've been listening to the program, you know, and I, you know, I don't want to overshare, but that's what I do, okay?

I make people uncomfortable by oversharing.

And then usually my wife will say at some point in the evening, well, that's what happens.

That's why we don't have any friends, huh?

But it's been a long week.

My kids have moved out of the house.

We moved out of our house.

And

I cried over a gravy boat this week.

And I know, I mean, I mean, I'm prone to tears, but I mean, as a man, A gravy boat shouldn't be.

It wasn't even a gravy boat.

It was just like this stupid little, I don't even know, gravy boat.

And

we were packing up the house and we were just giving a bunch of stuff away.

And this stupid gravy boat, and I'm packing it up to give it away.

And I look at it and all of a sudden I remember my children, because this is what Tanya used to, she would make spaghetti sauce every Sunday and she would put the spaghetti sauce in that.

And I remembered the faces of my children, you know, pouring the spaghetti sauce out.

And I'm just like, I just start bursting into tears.

And I'm like, we can't give away the gravy boat.

It's been a wild week.

So I'm glad it's Friday.

Let me start with something.

You know, you saw the Sidney Sweeney ad.

Can we replay the ad, please?

I think it's cut 23.

You can take the dude out of the country.

You can't take a country out of the dude.

Okay, so

let me just let me just say let me just say this.

DEI

and

all of this politically correct crap is dying.

However, have you noticed the pushback on this?

It's not going away

quietly into this.

I mean, it is kicking and screaming as the American people are trying to just put a spear in it.

It's a vampire, and we have got to put a giant stake in its heart, or it'll come back over and over and over again.

But the average person is, well, I mean, they're human.

I hate to break it to progressives, but you're dealing with humans.

And

socialists and communists, you should know this.

You can't change human nature.

You can coax it.

You can inspire it, but you're not going to change it.

I mean, we are built as a species this way for a reason.

You know, here's an idea.

You know, guys like hot-looking women.

Why?

Otherwise, the species dies out.

God created us this way.

Why do you think, I mean, think about how, I mean, honestly, I don't mean to get, but think about how icky sex really is.

I mean, if you just think of it

clinically, it's pretty icky, right?

It's pretty icky.

And I think that's the clinical word for it.

But,

I mean, everybody loves it.

Why?

Because it feels good.

Do you think it feels good out of happenstance?

It feels good because that's God going, how am I going to get these people to do this?

How am I going to get them?

How am I going to get them to do this all the time?

Otherwise, the species, I could tell them, hey, you got to do this or the species will die out.

And everybody would be like, nah, no, thank you.

And we'd be doomed.

That's why we're attracted.

That's why we have these things that are going on.

You can't deny that.

And if you try to deny that, it's a really bad thing.

You can control it as as an individual, but if you try to beat it out of people, it's just not going to happen.

So they're doing everything they can to tell us that we should all be attracted to people who are wildly out of shape, like me,

or really unattractive, again, like me.

But it doesn't work.

It doesn't work.

And so now the natural man and natural woman are coming back to say,

yeah, I'm really tired of this fat is beautiful thing because it's really not.

It's really not.

And it's not healthy either.

You can see

as all of these things are starting to happen,

notice that Nike did the

ad with the golfer.

What was the golfer's name, Stu, with baby?

Scotty Scheffler.

Yeah, what a great ad that is.

But you notice that one's not getting the pushback that the Sydney Sweeney one is.

Have you noticed that?

Yeah, no, I haven't seen any pushback on that.

It's

just a, and I, I just, universally great.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's just universally great, right?

The Sidney Sweeney thing,

that one's getting all, that's getting hammered.

Now,

I did, I want to bring something to you that

people are saying, we're not sure if this is really her or if this is AI.

This is to give you an example of how you, this is the first test that you need to give yourself every time you see a story.

You see something in the news.

And again, remember, this is, we're not sure if this is AI or not.

Okay.

The first test you take is,

is this making me really, really,

really unbelievably happy to hear it?

Because if it is, most likely you should pause before you say that's real.

Okay.

Because it just makes you feel so good, probably has a good chance it's not real.

This really made me feel good.

I think this is cut 24.

Here's quote Sidney Sweeney about the controversy.

It has come to my attention that like fat ugly chicks are upset by my American Eagle ad.

And that's like honestly like so funny because fashion is only for attractive people.

I mean, who are you kidding?

Like, I'm sorry, you're disgusting, but this product, yeah, it's not for you.

Liberal women are such spiteful b ⁇ s sometimes, but it's like not their fault, I guess.

Some of them are just born hideous, and that's like tough.

I also just want to say that throughout this ad campaign, people have been guessing my political views, and I, against the wishes of my publicists, I'm going to share that I am way more right-wing than you could ever imagine.

Now, I didn't, this is the first time I've seen the video.

That's obviously not her.

But if you're just hearing the audio, you know, you're like, okay, I mean, would I like that to be true?

But no, it's not.

No, it's not.

Now,

I would have to say the same on the other side

because

this is a response from the Democrats

and a congresswoman I want you to watch cut 25, please.

Look, all we're saying is that we want representation, okay?

If Republicans are going to have beautiful girls with perfect teeth in their ads, we want ads for Democrats too, you know?

We want ugly, fat bs wearing pink wigs and long fake nails being loud and twerking on top of a cop car at a waffle house because they didn't get extra ketchup.

Just because we're the party of ugly people doesn't mean we can't be featured in ads, okay?

And I know most of us are too fat to wear jeans or too ugly to go outside, but we want representation.

Klobuchar.

I don't think that's actually her.

What tipped you off on that one?

Was there a specific she made sense?

Oh, yeah.

She was speaking the truth?

Yeah.

I don't know.

You know, that one was a little harder.

That one was a little harder

because that's absolutely true, what she said.

But

yeah, did you see that?

I think it was Gavin Newsom posted, you know, some photo of Donald Trump crying or J.D.

Vance.

I can't remember who.

It was one of the Republicans, you know, doing something.

And it was an obvious AI photo.

And people were pointing out that the law that he wanted to pass, which would make,

you know, it was being challenged in court, but it would make AI representations that aren't clearly marked illegal.

Oh, that's right.

He violated his own law by posting that.

Oh, my God.

So, you know, it's funny because these things, like,

there's always room for parody.

And

these, both of those videos you played were both so over the line and overt that you could tell, right?

Just because of what they were saying, obviously they would never say those things.

But, like, we're not far away from

a situation where you're not going to be able to tell.

And I think

that you could do it if you really wanted to and make it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You spend time and money.

You can absolutely do it.

Do you see the Dave Rubin uh lookalike no

so uh dave rubin is uh uh going on you know his august vacation uh and so he did an interview with himself ai dave

and you can tell because it's I mean, you could tell it's AI, first of all, because it always, everything he says, the AI answers with something like, you know, that is a really good comic.

That's how you know AI is AI, is if it's telling you, you're a genius.

No matter what you say.

I was thinking about putting my hands in shoes and walking on my hands all the time.

And AI will go, that is a very good idea.

That's the best thing about you is your creativity.

But anyway, but it looks just like Dave.

Looks just like him.

Sounds like him.

It just doesn't have

his sensibility at all.

But that's, do you remember, Stu, we should find the old show that I did

five or six years ago when I couldn't get anybody to pay attention to deep fakes.

And I said, no, no, no, you don't understand.

And we played a deep fake, I think of me, just my voice at the time.

And

it was so digitized and so bad, you just had to listen.

You could tell, you know, it was obviously a computer, but you could hear the beginnings of it capturing my voice.

Do you remember that?

Yeah.

Yep.

And I said, it won't be long before they'll nail this.

The good thing is, it's harder to nail the voice than it is the image, believe it or not.

But now,

there's no difference.

The only thing is, is

just the expression is not quite right.

It still doesn't have any life to it, any life behind it.

That'll change.

We keep holding on to this idea that we can tell.

You know, there's that uncanny valley sort of aspect that

it's, I don't even think it's, I wouldn't say it's gone yet, honestly.

Like, there's still

going to be gone, and we're not far away.

I think there's this hope that like humans have this sort of

internal detector that is going to be able to pick this stuff off for a long time.

And I don't think so.

I mean, I think right now I can still tell a lot of the times.

You know, there's like weird hesitations.

I mentioned this to you.

I don't know if we said this on the air or off the air, but quickly, I was listening to a podcast that had like an interview at the front of it, and the back of it was like a news update.

It was like 10-minute news update.

So I listened to the interview, which was real.

And then I went into the second part and it was a news update.

And I was listening to it, and it just fell off to me.

Like, I, you know, it's second, it was in the background as I'm driving.

I wasn't paying that close of attention.

And then at one point, it was a financial podcast, and they got to a point where they were describing a change in 401ks,

and they said 401ks.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and so, like, and then I was like, oh, gosh, this is AI, right?

Like, you know, at that point, I definitely knew, but I felt it beforehand.

Like, this is something wrong.

Is this AI?

I don't know.

There's something to it, and I hope this remains.

I hope this is what you're talking about, and it's accurate.

It's almost as if you can feel there's no soul behind it.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

You just, and, and it gets worse once you know it.

If you're listening to something and it's just a little off, you know, and it's just not connecting exactly right.

But once you know it's AI, then it's glaring there's no soul behind it.

But I wonder if we're ever going to be able to close the gap of,

I hope we don't,

where you can't feel the life or the soul that's missing.

Does that make sense to you?

Do you know what I'm saying?

Yes, that's kind of what I was talking about.

Like, I'm hoping, like, I think there's a belief that maybe we just have this ability, this inherent ability to do that.

I do wonder about it, though.

I mean, there are times where it's really difficult

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So I've, I told you this before, and Stu, you have got to go before, I mean, you should go to, have you ever been to England?

No, I have not, no.

Okay, I've only been there once, you know, besides being in an airport.

And

you should go.

If anybody can afford to go to Europe or England, you should go now because

it's not long before it won't be England or Europe anymore.

But in England, they have this, I don't remember what it's called, this ABBA show.

And the kids and Tanya, you know, we love ABBA.

And, you know, we'd be out in the pool every summer since they were little and we'd be listening to ABBA and singing in the pool and, you know, fooling around as a family.

And so the kids love ABBA.

And

Rafe knew what we were going to go see, but we didn't tell Cheyenne what it was.

We just said we're going to go see Abba.

And they're all excited.

Now, this is two years ago, maybe.

So they're close to adults.

I mean, they're not kids.

And we go into the show, and it took them like five years to produce because they're the first to do it.

And now the technology is there like crazy.

But it is, it's hard to explain because it's not, a hologram doesn't sound right.

It is

projection of some sort.

3D.

3D.

They took, I think, 300 cameras on each of them and filmed them.

And the lighting, the way this computer is,

the graphics are so amazing because the lights are real in

the room.

You know, you're seeing the light go on and it will track right on their clothing.

It will throw the shadow on the ground the right way.

It is crazy.

And I said to

like the second or third song, Rafe and I were talking about it as we were, because we were so amazed by it.

And I said, and let's see what Cheyenne thinks.

I said, hey, Cheyenne.

And she said, what?

And I said, do they look real to you?

And she looked at me like I was crazy.

And she said, what?

And I said, do they look real to you?

She said, of course they look real.

I said, they're not.

She said, what are you talking about?

I said, that's not them.

That's a hologram.

She didn't believe me at first.

Wow.

I mean, the technology, the things that we can do right now are stunning

and used in good ways.

That's great.

But

I hope that uncanny valley stays at least on the one-on-one experiences, you know, where you're listening to somebody or you're hearing them and you can tell it's not really them.

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It's Friday.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

We have John Solomon coming up in just a minute from Just the News.

He is a journalist, formerly of the Wall Street Journal.

He was of the New York Times, Washington Post.

And then he was like, you know what?

I don't think they're telling the truth and started his own thing.

He is, I think, one of the best reporters in America.

And he has been really tracking the story that broke yesterday and all of the stories leading up to it.

And I wanted to get him on to talk about what was released yesterday.

So he's coming up in about a half an hour.

Yeah, and that's kind of the big story.

I think the biggest story of the day

outside of Sidney Sweeney video on radio.

But it's funny because it's like, it's such a big story and such such a big development.

And you can see the media is already going into overdrive to sort of try to push it down and give you reasons why you shouldn't believe it.

But we wanted to make sure we started with the guy who kind of broke the story, which is John Solomon.

And he's coming up here in a little bit.

Yep.

So don't go anywhere on that.

I also, it's Friday, and I wanted to

sweep up on some things that we were talking about earlier this week.

You know, I've talked

this week, I've really tried to talk to young men

and

talk to you if you're parenting a young man

because they're really struggling and they've been taught lies their whole life

and they've been told to be something that they're not.

You know, it's kind of like I was saying you know earlier.

I'm sorry, but guys are attracted to beautiful women.

I remember walking down the,

we were in the mall, my dad and I were walking, and this beautiful woman passed us who, you know,

had, you know, as my father would have said, a nice caboose.

And she walks past us.

Now, my dad is shuffling along.

He's 75, almost 80 at this point.

And I said to him, as she passed, I know where my eyes went immediately.

And I said to him, I said, Dad, can I ask you something?

He said, sure.

I said, Does the feeling of and that's all I said?

And he stopped me and he went, nope, it never goes away.

You see it no matter how old you are.

And I mean, I couldn't believe it.

I mean, that's how guys think.

And

you can try really hard to be, you know, moral and decent and you can accomplish those things, but you can't change nature.

And that's exactly what people have been.

People have been saying, lying to boys about, you know, they're bad, they're, you know, they're, they're too aggressive, they're not protectors.

You don't stand up and open the door for women.

I don't even know what is toxic masculinity.

How would you define that?

God,

other than just woke nonsense.

Yeah.

They say it's like a

belief in male entitlement, right?

Well, that's not male

toxicity.

That's just stupid.

That's just wrong.

Yeah, right.

I mean,

the question is whether it's real or not.

I mean, I don't,

know anyone who thinks like this, right?

Like, it's just, you know.

I'm sure there are, but there are Neanderthals.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Emphasis on emotional suppression,

valorization of aggression and dominance.

Yeah, see, that is, you know, and that is true, but it's taken so far to where you're not supposed to be a man.

You're not supposed to stand up.

You're not, you know, there's never need for a warrior.

Yes, there is.

Yes, there is.

You know, you don't always have to lead.

No, you don't always have to lead.

But, you know, a lot of women like a man who knows where they're going and says, hey, where are you going?

Let's put these two things together.

Let's go.

You know, and it just, the secret to success in life, I think, is confidence.

Without being arrogant, it's confidence.

I think the sexiest thing in a woman is she knows who she is.

And she's not afraid of it.

She's not afraid of showing, you know, her weaknesses.

She's not afraid of being who she is, whether the world likes it or not.

I just, I find that very, very attractive.

And I think most people are like that.

And so, you know, here are guys, they've been told, sit down, shut up, you take this medication, you're too aggressive, you know,

all of this, all of this stuff.

And now they're left at a place to where they don't have meaning in life.

They don't know what anything is.

There's nothing real.

You know,

they don't have to talk to people.

And this is on both male and female.

You don't have to talk to people anymore.

You never grew up having those uncomfortable moments because it's all been texting, even if you're sitting next to one another.

And, you know, I look at my son, his friends, et cetera, et cetera, who are great kids, great guys.

I'm just so proud of my children and their friends.

But

they're still lost.

This is a lost generation.

And

you have to,

it is so hard.

You have to,

you have to find out who you really are, what you really are.

And, you know, my,

I've heard people say, you know, fake it until you make it.

And

I guess that's somewhat true.

Because you have to break these habits.

And I remember my father,

he was such a help to me when I was, you know, recovering from my alcoholism and trying to figure life out.

And, you know, I just said, I was on the phone.

I don't even remember what I said, but I was saying something about, you know, dad, I just have all these problems and I just

and he said, you are living a lie.

And I said, I know, that's one of my problems.

And he's like, no, no, no, no, you are living a lie.

He said, I want you to do something.

He said, I want you to get up tomorrow morning.

And I want you to, tonight, I want you to put

notepad and a pencil or a pen next to the bed the minute you open your eyes I want you to take and put a line down the middle of the sheet and just put a P and an N, positive negative and he said don't judge the thoughts don't think of the thoughts don't pursue them just Just look at everything that goes through your mind every fleeting thought that goes through your mind from the minute you wake up until you go to bed that night and just put a hash mark.

Was that a positive or a negative?

He said, you are focused all on the negative about you.

And

so I did that.

And I remember I called him about noon

that day because it was, I'll never forget, it was like 5.38 a.m.

I had been up for about an hour.

And I had gotten dressed, got out of bed, gotten dressed, got into the car.

I was halfway to work and I was sitting at a stoplight in Hamden, Connecticut.

I can see right where it was and I'm sitting at the stoplight and I pick up my pen and I put two hash marks down in the N category.

And I realized there wasn't a single P in that category or on that paper, not one.

And there was probably 20 N's.

And

I called my dad and I said,

This is unbelievable.

This is unbelievable.

And he's like, that is the problem.

Your thinking is what creates your life.

What you think about yourself, how you look at life, what you think, all thought, this is really important, all thought is creative.

God thinks it, he speaks it, and it becomes.

You think it, you speak it, and it becomes.

It's why

I try my hardest never to say things like, oh, I'm just a screwed up person.

No, I'm not.

I'm not.

I'm somebody finding my way.

I'm somebody really searching for the truth.

You have to change that and break that because

until you can say,

I just told my son this just the other day, you got to start saying to yourself, I'm strong.

I'm positive.

I'm getting better every day.

I'm getting stronger every day.

I'm getting healthier every day.

I'm understanding the world more and more every day.

Instead of saying, I'm just so confused.

I'm just so lost.

And that is natural to say.

We tend towards the negative anyway.

And let me show you this.

This is an action.

Now, this almost got a friend of mine who's now my new CEO of my new company,

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One of the reasons why

I want to work with him and wanted to work with him for a few years is because he's one of the most optimistic guys I know.

And he is a guy who, is a serial entrepreneur.

He's always curious about things.

And he has just created great teams and

done it over and over and over again in his life.

And he doesn't need to do it anymore,

but he wants to.

And we were talking for a while about putting something completely different together as a company.

And the other day I was having a really bad day, really bad day.

You've heard it because if you listen to me this week, you know.

And

he came over to the house, and I was in a mood.

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And I come up, and there he is, with his smiley-ass smile on his face.

And he's just happy.

He's always happy.

He's honestly, he's like a dog that's always wagging its tail.

It's always like,

I'm so glad to see you.

And sometimes you're like, back off.

And

I open up the door and he's not even in yet.

I open up the door and I said, Lynn,

are you always

happy?

And he said, yeah, I am.

And I said,

I'm going to have a hard time with this conversation tonight because I'm not happy right now.

And he said, you know, Glenn, and he's walking in, you know, Glenn,

I found that happiness is a choice.

And I said, wow, I understand that because

I realize right now that punching you in the face is a choice.

And I'm choosing not to punch you in the face.

And he still stood there and he just laughed.

And then he smiled back at me and he's like, see, it's all a choice.

This is a guy who's actually mastered that.

I'm not a guy who's mastered that.

But once you understand that everything in your life is a choice, nothing is happening to you

you can't choose to look at it in a different way, in a positive way.

Not just saying that you're denying things, because I really felt like a fraud for a while.

My father said, change your thinking, change your life.

And he said, you have to start telling yourself things.

And I said, but dad, I don't believe those things right now.

And he said, you will.

He said, but you have spent your whole life telling yourself you're this when that's not true.

He said, so now you just have to, every time you have a negative thought,

he said, remember, it takes about 10 positive to overcome a negative.

You have to figure out what that thought is and then change the way you think about that.

So instead of saying, oh, I'm just so lost, I am finding my own way.

I'm finding a different way.

I'm finding a new way.

I am right now

really searching for this new path.

He said, if you do that, eventually you will believe that about yourself.

And honestly, I didn't believe that.

When he said that, I said, I don't think so.

And he said, well,

I'm 70, you're 30.

What do you say?

You give me the benefit of the doubt and give it a whirl.

And I did.

And

it totally changed my life.

Totally changed my life.

That is the one thing that we have to convince our young men of.

You are not who everyone has you are.

You are not somebody who is boxed out.

And by the way, you can't say to yourself, I'm not unhappy, because it doesn't under your brain doesn't understand positive and negative like that.

It just is.

It will create whatever the overall action is.

So we have to tell them that they're not that, but we have to also tell them what they are.

And then they have to start telling themselves that.

You know, if we all started to say, you know, we're a country that has had really bad problems, but we are a country that is getting better every day.

We're a country where our citizens care.

We're a citizen that cares.

I struggle sometimes, but I am finding my way to new ideas and new ways to care to make my country better.

That would change the world.

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Somehow or another, we need to find ways to tell ourselves these things and to teach it to our children because they are extraordinarily lost right now.

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stuff than we can possibly imagine.

And they are going to change the world.

And it may not be the way we like it, but if they're smart, if they have been taught proper principles, they will change it and it will be for the better.

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You know, if you think about some of these things, we have to stop saying, saying, you know, how long have we been told we're racist?

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They're obviously Russian.

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Hello, America.

It's Friday, and we've got a lot to cover.

John Solomon, I've got two of my favorite people on this hour.

John Solomon from Just the News, he is a credible investigative journalist, been around forever, praised by everybody until he started telling the truth that some on the left didn't like.

And you know what?

You can always, you know, a good journalist when...

People on both sides have a problem with things that they might report.

And you're like, okay, they're fair.

Remember Tim Russert?

John Solomon is cut from that cloth.

He's going to tell us what's going on with the Clinton emails, the stuff that was released yesterday.

To me, it looks like very big news.

And what a surprise.

George Soros is involved.

But we'll get John Solomon to talk about it.

And then after that, we have Vivek Ramaswamy at the bottom of the hour.

We're going to talk a little bit about the beatdown in Cincinnati and what is really happening in Ohio.

He's running for governor of Ohio.

We're going to talk to Vivek coming up about 30 minutes from now.

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How are you?

It is great to be with you, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

So here's, I want to start with this premise, and I know you're the same way.

I really don't care about the politics at this point.

Politics will follow later.

I want to know the truth.

And if I'm reading the Washington Post or New York Times, they're saying, this is not news.

These are all fake.

These were all Russian

tools

put out to discredit Hillary Clinton.

And so we shouldn't pay any attention.

Tell me what was released and what you think at this point is true and not true.

Yeah, so what was put out yesterday is called the appendix, the classified appendix to John Durham's final report, the special prosecutor who looked at Russia Gate.

This is something he couldn't release publicly because it involved highly classified intercepts that the United States government had.

These intercepts are of Russian spies, the GRU and other Russian spy agencies.

And this has been a very successful program.

There are multiple ways we intercept the Russian spies.

But over the years, we've used this to make very major decisions about Russia.

So the information is deemed to relatively be reliable.

In fact, James Comey thought it was so reliable for this program that he used information from this program to rush out and wave his magic wand and decide that on his own, even though he wasn't the Attorney General, he would clear Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing in the scandal.

Why?

Because the Russian intercepts suggested that Loretta Lynch was part of an effort to fix the case, and he didn't want that to happen, so he fixed the case himself.

And uh that uh so we've acted on it we've acted on this intelligence over the years in july of 16 durham says the united states government intercepted information saying that the russians had uh found out that hillary clinton had developed a plan and personally approved it to uh hang a fake russian shingle on donald trump's campaign house basically accuse him of being a vladimir putin stooge maybe be involved in the hacking of the democratic national committee uh computers and uh it was deemed so credible that John Brennan ran and briefed Barack Obama on it.

And then he briefed the entire senior leadership, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, James Comey, James Clapper, and of course, John Brennan himself was the recipient of the information, so his agency did it.

Rather than investigate it, rather than use it as a reason to be dubious, when Christopher Steele walks his dossier in or Michael Sussman walks in his Alphabank baloney,

they actually lean into it.

They actually decide they're going to investigate these allegations as real, even though there was enormous reason to be paused.

Now, in these information, there are purported emails in which someone in the George Soros world writes, hey, I just got told that Hillary Clinton's going to hang the shingle and the FBI is going to participate in it.

Now, he denies he wrote the email.

Wait, wait, wait.

He says, I don't remember writing it.

One of the lines kind of sounds like me, but I have no recollection of it.

Or did he actually say absolutely false i didn't do it yeah he he said i i wouldn't have used language like that i didn't write that email he does now jay jake sullivan's a little bit different jake sullivan is uh uh i don't remember but i can't rule it out so jake sullivan the national security advisor to both clinton and biden over the years uh has a little bit different but

As you walk through this, the intelligence community ultimately decides that this is probably not a fabrication.

The FBI does so in 2017.

Now, it doesn't stop them from continuing to investigate the bogus Russia collusion back, but they decide that this intelligence is likely not fabricated.

The CIA believes that it's likely predictive.

Now, the way the program works, sometimes the Russian spies will fabricate in some way

the detail.

They'll make it look like it's an email, but it's really a summary.

So we're aware of that.

But what we generally know is whatever we get from the program is probably accurate, even if it's not an exact replica of an email or an exact replica of a text text message.

And so

both the intelligence committee said there's likely the FBI and CI that this is not fabricated.

It probably is reliable information.

And history will tell us that what we intercepted actually happened.

Hillary Clinton did exactly what we know.

They authorized the steal dossier.

They authorized the Sussman Alpha Bank stuff.

They went out on

the news media and tried to paint Donald Trump as a fake Russian stooge for Vladimir Putin when he wasn't.

And I want to point out the most important evidence that the early intelligence people realized looked like the Russians either were fortune tellers or they knew and had intercepted a real plan.

One of the early intercepts is that what's going to happen is

Hillary Clinton has approved this plan and then we're reaching out to Joe Biden for Joe Biden to take the lead on this.

Well, guess what happens?

Within 24 hours of that intercept,

Joe Biden goes out and he's the very first major Democrat to go suggest that Donald Trump's got a problem with Russia and that he's a stooge and that he's going to be bad for America and that he's owned by Vladimir Putin.

How would the Russians know that?

How would they guess that and just know that that would happen?

How would they know that

the FBI was going to open up a case in a few days?

So when the intelligence community looked back at this, the actual events of what played out with Hillary Clinton looks like exactly what the Russians knew in advance, and that's why they gave great credence to the idea that whether a specific email is accurate or not, the the general information the Russians had intercepted likely occurred.

So then, why did Durham bury this stuff?

Because what they're saying is they had all this stuff.

Durham was, you know, this is under the Trump administration.

Why didn't this come out if it was so real?

This is just, they're just doing a hatchet job on, you know, Hillary and Obama.

I mean, the New York Times said the reason why this is out is because he's trying to avoid his name being, you know, in the Epstein files or whatever.

That's right.

So

why didn't we come out with this?

Why are we just hearing about it now?

Well, in fairness, there were parts of the ⁇ you had to work hard because John Durham's team was not a good writing team.

The original report in the unclassified version had a lot of this, and I wrote about it a couple of years ago, and I spent the last two years trying to get this declassified.

And when I brought President Trump onto my show a couple of weeks ago, I asked him, he said, I'll do it.

And two weeks later, he gave it to Joe, to Chuck Grassy.

So he did what we asked him to do.

I have been advocating for the release of the classified version for two years.

You could tell there was something very important.

John Durham generally talks about the Clinton Plan initiative.

Most reporters didn't see it as significant.

I did.

And I think now we see why it's significant, which is the FBI had a very good reason not to investigate Steele's Dowsé based on this intercept.

It had a very good reason not to go to the FISA court and seek fake surveillance warrants.

It had a very good reason not to bring the United States through the trauma of what we call Russia gate, but they chose not to do it.

And it's the same FBI that a few months earlier had used the same Russian intelligence intercept program to take concrete action in the Hillary Cooking case.

So when it's beneficial to a Democrat, they treat the Russian intelligence as real.

And when it's detrimental to a Democrat, they try to dismiss it as Russian disinformation.

I'll just say this.

History shows.

In the last few years, when the New York Times tells you that something is true or not true on Russia, they've been generally wrong a lot.

And when Democrats call something Russian disinformation like the Hunter Biden laptop, we should all be a little dubious.

That is going on right now.

That machinery of the New York Times and the

Democrats are back to the Hunter Biden language.

We should be dubious.

We should get to the facts.

One of the things in the New York Times story this morning completely omitted.

In the Durham report, it says that the FBI concluded that these were likely not fabrication.

You think the New York Times would put that in their story, but I couldn't find it in there.

No, it's not.

It's not.

John, give me the best argument on their side

that should cause you to pause and go, well, maybe, maybe this isn't right.

Can you find

this?

Go ahead.

Yeah, John Durham never found an email, though he had access to subpoenas and other things.

He never found an email that matches the one that is attributed to the Soros Foundation.

He did find others, and he found language in other emails that were sent that are identical, but just not from this guy.

Now, that is something that happens a lot with the Russians.

They know that we're spying on them.

So sometimes they mix things up.

They intentionally say this came from Joe when it came from John, so that if we do intercept it, we think it's misinformation.

But in fact, they have it.

So John Durham ultimately concludes that these were probably compilations of real intelligence.

By the way, that's a very important thing.

John Durham says, all right, it doesn't matter if the emails are exactly from who they say they are.

The intelligence in them is likely to have been true.

So this is another reason why I felt that these were credible when they first, before I even read any of it,

I started reading some of the

summaries of them and commentaries about them.

And the left was immediately saying, it's old.

It doesn't matter.

It was 10 years ago.

And I thought, wow, Russian disinformation and it doesn't matter anyway.

That's usually the sign that it's.

We heard that song.

It's going to to be a country song someday.

What makes this different than all of the other stuff that doesn't go anywhere?

Well, listen,

it may not be different, and that will be the legacy of this era, that we unraveled one of the worst political scandals in history, and we really couldn't hold anyone accountable.

Why do you say this?

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Why do you say this is one of the worst political scandals in American history?

That's quite a statement.

It is, because no other time in history have we found a U.S.

intelligence and FBI apparatus used to carry out a political dirty trick.

Listen, they knew the Steel dossier was fake.

They decided they continued to use it to spy and mislead the FISA court.

They knew that the career officials of the intelligence community didn't think Vladimir Putin was trying to help Donald Trump win the election, and they overruled them and rewrote the report.

Those are incredible abuses.

These are the most powerful tools we give the U.S.

intelligence community and the FBI.

They're supposed to only be used to go after our enemies, terrorists, intelligence threats to America.

And in this era, from the 2016 to 2019 timeframe, we see those communities are being used to carry out political missions, to denigrate a political opponent, to falsely call true evidence of wrongdoing against a Democrat, the Hunter Biden laptop, disinformation, to use the FISA court to spy on your political enemy, submitting to it to get that permission, unreliable and inaccurate information.

That is one of the greatest abuses.

In past times, we've had a lot of abuses in intelligence communities, things like we tortured people and we did things.

Here, the abuse is the American people.

The intelligence tools were used to carry out a political dirty trick designed to deceive the American public about who they elected and who they might elect.

And I think that's why it's such a big scandal.

You have to get to 30,000 feet to look at it.

You can get into the weeds and then it gets complicated.

But the FBI and CIA were used to deceive the American people and to potentially thwart the will after they elected Donald Trump.

That's something we can't allow to happen again.

John, thank you.

Thank you for everything you do.

I know I say this to you every time, but you're one of the few guys I really trust.

And I appreciate all the hard work you do.

Thank you.

That means a lot.

Thank you, Glenn.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

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I want the other side to be true.

And that's how you know.

You know, people ask me all the time,

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Well, I look for people that will say things on both sides, and they will say, this is true, this is not true, and you're not always happy with what they have to say.

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It is really amazing, Stu, isn't it?

How the

New York Times and the Washington Post both are pretty much ignoring this.

I mean, they're not ignoring it.

They're running one story saying,

you know, basically the same thing they said on the Hunter Biden laptop, exactly the same thing.

And the mainstream media is following them, doing exactly the same thing.

You want to talk about, you know, doing the same thing and expecting different results.

They're insane.

They have gone insane because they're doing exactly the same thing.

And they're expecting now different results than

I think when what they're, you know, it hasn't been working for a long time, and I don't think this is going to work.

The only thing they have going for them on this one is they'll say it's old, and all these people are in the past, and it's confusing.

And it is, but it doesn't matter how old this is, it's important to correct it.

Yeah, you know, reading the New York Times take on this, they I would say are leaning harder into it's just not real.

It's not, you know, it's more of that.

One of the most shocking things in it is they claim, they basically get mad at Durham for putting all of this in the annex because

they were hiding the fact that this plan was likely Russian intelligence, which is, I guess, what they come up with as a summary of it.

But we didn't even know about the plan.

What do you mean he was hiding that it was Russian intelligence?

We didn't even know about these messages really until today or yesterday.

And they're pretty incredible.

Even if they are pieces of other emails and Russian

pieces,

you can see, and as John said, what those emails say happened.

So, I mean, what a coincidence that is.

Here's what the Washington Post said.

The report contains no proof that as Trump officials and allies have alleged in recent weeks, Clinton and senior U.S.

officials close to President Barack Obama schemed to concoct erroneous Trump links to Moscow, sullying his 2016 election victory in first term.

The existence of unverified intelligence suggesting Clinton approved a campaign plan to tie Trump to Russia has been publicly known since at least 2020.

Okay, so they hid it until 2020.

And so, you know, it's old.

So why do you even care?

Well, because

it does show, and it's not close to President Barack Obama.

It is President Barack Obama.

You know, one of the things I'm really so frustrated about, and they'll never do it because it'll expose the whole thing.

You know, and I know that they have, the NSA has every keystroke of everybody's,

everybody.

They have every keystroke.

And if you're important, you don't get dumped and cleared out.

You know what I mean?

That's what those NSA server farms are in Utah.

I mean, it's a side of a mountain, a side of a mountain, deep underneath.

It's just server farms.

Well, what do you think they're collecting?

And every time I hear, well, we don't know,

that's a lost email.

They can't, the NSA has it.

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He's running for governor,

and he was, you know, he was born and raised in Cincinnati.

And

I really want to know,

you know, what is the deal with this incident?

What is happening?

And

is there any evidence that we don't have all of the picture?

Because I got to believe

if that was happening, you know, people thrown around the N-word, and I can see that happening.

I'm not denying that that could happen.

Thrown around the N-word and just, you know, they're just everybody's being pigs.

You know, I could see that, but I would think we would know about that.

And I'm reading stuff about, you know, well, Ohio has a bad history of race relations.

Well, you know what?

If you want to go back, because I'm blamed for slavery back in the old timey days, if you want to play that game, I'll play that on the opposite end.

Ohio was a central stop on the Underground Railroad.

Tens of thousands of people, I think Tubman even was sending people up through Ohio.

It was key to the Underground Railroad.

So, you know, it might have bad race relations right now, but historically speaking, Ohio played a very important role in the end of slavery and race relations.

Vivek is on the phone with us now.

Hi, Vivek.

How are you?

Glenn, how are you doing?

I'm great.

I'm great.

You know, you were born in Cincinnati

and, you know, you're following this because you're running for governor.

By the way, I hear you're doing really well, and I'm happy to hear that.

Thank you.

I see the city councilwoman.

I see

the police chief saying, well, you don't know all the facts, and I might not know all the facts.

And even if there are more facts, it doesn't justify what we saw.

But have you seen any other facts that the public doesn't know about on this beatdown?

Glenn, I think that the basic point is common sense.

We should not have everyday hardworking Americans who are afraid to go into their cities, particularly a city like Cincinnati, for fear of being beaten up, for fear of assault, for fear of battery.

And I did speak to the victim, Holly, who was assaulted.

I spoke to her on Monday.

At the time I had spoken to her, one of the things that surprised me is that she said not a single state or local official had even reached out to her at that point in time.

And that was on Monday

after the Friday night of the incident, which was remarkable.

And I reached out because we wanted to be helpful in any way.

I mean, I saw she had some neck injuries.

My wife, Aporva, is one of the top throat surgeons in the country here in Ohio.

So we wanted to see how we could help.

But I was surprised that, frankly, not a single public official at the city level or the state level had even reached out.

And I can see why, in part, because there is a culture of fear around these issues relating to violence and urban crime in particular.

In Cincinnati, so I grew up there, as you say, I was born and raised in Cincinnati, lived my first 18 years of my life there, went to public schools through eighth grade, public schools where there was frequently, you know, fights and stuff breaking out.

I went to a Catholic high school for high school after that.

And I will tell you, a number of the people I went to school with, grade school, high school, who still live in Cincinnati, I live in Columbus now, but they're in Cincinnati, reach out and said, thank you for saying something about this because we've noticed this issue.

There is a culture of fear in our city.

There's also fear of people being able to go to the city without the risk of violent crime.

I think the risk for the stats right now, sadly, are one in 137 is your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Cincinnati.

So my view is I don't care what Democrat or Republican party you're in.

I don't care what your skin color is.

We ought to be united around the issue of fighting violent crime in our cities.

And this is in part directly the result.

I'm sorry to say it, Glenn, but it's true.

It is directly the result of this defund the police, the anti-cop, the anti-rule of law culture that's spread across our country.

And I want to be a governor who's able to speak that truth in a manner that unites people, not divides people, but doesn't hide from that truth or sweep it under the rug either, because I do think that's what's going to be required to address the problem.

You know, as a whole society, we also have to start striving to be above animals.

I mean, you know, I watched this and it was like watching fifth graders, you know, everybody's standing around a fight and everybody's like, fight, fight, fight.

I mean,

you're not in fifth grade anymore.

I didn't see anybody, and this is what a civil society would do.

I didn't really see anybody step in and go, hey, hey, hey, hey, guys, back off, back up.

What I saw were people that were cheering it on or...

not involved suddenly jumping in and getting involved, which was terrifying.

When the female went down, I thought they killed her.

I mean, her eyes were open.

She was out cold.

That was a dangerous situation.

I've talked to her several times in the last week, Glenn, and it is very sad.

She's a working mom.

She's a single mother.

And she's somebody who, on a rare occasion, went to the city to have a good time for a friend's birthday party.

I think it's unconscionable that not only after she was knocked out, she wasn't even able to take an ambulance.

She had to call her own Uber to get out of there.

That situation of risk.

And I just think that we have to think about ways we have to improve the way we're doing things.

What do you mean she couldn't take an ambulance?

Well, there wasn't an ambulance.

She called an Uber.

And so

this is the kind of thing that's just sad.

And I do think we ought to have an open conversation about, first of all, there's reports now that one of the assailants was let out on bond

for a different crime or offense alleged earlier this month, so in the month of July, earlier that same month was out on bond with somebody who previously was convicted of other crimes.

And so we got to rethink some of the breakages in our judicial system.

We've got to rethink what it means to have more of a law enforcement presence on our streets, at least in predictable hours of when there's a baseball game going on, when there's a national music concert on a Friday night in certain areas of urban parts of our cities.

Does it mean that we deter crime by having just a greater law enforcement presence?

And I think we've got to have that conversation in the open.

And I say this as somebody, Glenn, who will be the first person to not only recognize but shout from the foothills, there are so many good men and women working very hard, men and women in blue in the Cincinnati Police Department, who I respect deeply for their service.

It's not their individual fault by any stretch, and anybody who says so misses the point.

But the point is what kind of leadership do we bring to a city, to a state, to say that we do stand for not defunding the police, but funding the police, that we stand for allowing them to do their jobs with that fear of looking over their shoulder for being sued, and also to be able to have a judicial system and necessary reforms that don't just send violent criminals right back onto the street.

This is common sense stuff, right?

This is not left.

This shouldn't be at least left versus right stuff, right?

This is common sense.

And that's why I'm running for governor.

I do believe that we have had too many politicians who have tried to sweep these issues under the rug for too long.

I'm going to Cincinnati actually on Monday, Glenn.

Part of my point is I want to practice what we preach.

I called a friend of mine who's a former NAACP, Cincinnati chapter president, a former vice mayor of the city, who actually has been quite thoughtful on a lot of these issues as well.

We're going to co-host a town hall.

Anybody come.

If you disagree with my politics, that's fine.

You could show up.

But we're going to have a conversation about how we crush crime in my hometown of Cincinnati and how we crush crime in cities across our state.

And I hope Ohio sets a model nationwide for putting an end to this epidemic of lawlessness and violence and do it in a way that brings us together through open dialogue.

That's what I favor.

And so that's the kind of leader I'm hoping to be for our state.

That's why I'm in this.

And, you know, hopefully we're going to succeed.

I hope that does succeed because Cincinnati is a great town, just a great, great town.

It is.

And I wouldn't go into Cincinnati now.

I wouldn't.

Tell me, and you know, one of the reasons why I wouldn't is not just because of what I saw in this video, but the reaction from one of the city council members, from the police chief, your governor, what do you say to that police chief?

Look, I've had conversations with all of these folks, you know, one-on-one, or not all of them, but many of them.

And look, I want to be a leader who's bringing together people across the state, whether they like me or not, right?

Whether they agree with my politics or not.

But what I will say is this.

It is time for a new generation of leadership that speaks hard truth, that speaks with a spine.

As it relates to law enforcement, we need critical, out-of-the-box solutions.

I mean, you think about even in the 90s, you know, Clinton and Gingrich back then talked about the idea of equipping localities with cops to deter violence and then leaving it to the localities after that.

Well, at the state level, should we be thinking about similar solutions?

I think we ought to at least have a conversation about it.

Thinking about bail reforms, at least in common sense ways, that we're not sending back violent criminals right back into the street to be a repeat offender when we know that's a high risk to the rest of ordinary law-abiding Americans trying to have a good time in the cities where they live.

So I think these are issues where you do have a lot of leaders, including governors, including mayors, who try to sweep these issues under the rug, hope they go away.

That's not a strategy.

In fact, it causes frustration to fester.

And when people have frustrations that they don't feel free to talk about, that's when actually bad things happen.

That's what actually spurns social division.

And I think true cohesion comes from being able to confront these issues head on.

And so that town hall in Cincinnati, I don't know how it's going to go.

I hope it goes well.

But

it's on Monday evening.

But I think that, you know, I did one of these in Springfield last year.

Remember Springfield when it was in Ohio as well, the theme of national news?

And I will tell you.

Does Ohio have a bad history of race relations?

You know,

it's not that Ohio has a, I mean, you brought up a great point.

Think about Ohio.

We're the end of the Underground Railroad.

Cincinnati was the final destination.

So you think about a long enough course of history, Ohio was part of the emancipation movement in the United States of America.

So have there been issues over time?

Sure, you go back to the early 2000s.

There were racially charged riots in the city.

The National Guard had to come out.

This is back when I was in high school, etched into my brain.

But that's true in different places across the country.

I think Ohio is a great place actually to embody the best of what our country is about.

You know, you go to Cincinnati, you go to Columbus,

you draw a circle around it.

You've got a cross-section of the country.

And more than California or New York, or even, I may say, Glenn, even more than Texas or Florida.

The beautiful thing about Ohio is that we're a cross-section of the entire United States.

So, if we're going to get these issues right for the country, Ohio ought to be ground zero for fixing it.

And I think that's what, on the positive side, I wouldn't call it a particular history of trouble, but I think we are a part of the country that's diverse enough, that's in every sense, that you see a lot of these things bubbling up in Ohio.

We got to fix them first in Ohio.

I have to tell you, I, you know, you would have talked to me 30 years ago and you would have said, this guy has a particular history of alcoholism and

hard to work with and yada, yada.

I'm not that guy.

You just have to choose.

And

an inspiring leader,

DeSantis is one here in Florida.

An inspiring leader, somebody who just says, no, we're going in a different direction.

People want to be safe.

They want to, I don't care what color you are, what

income bracket you're in.

You want to be safe.

You want your family to be safe, your children to be able.

You want to be able to go into town and

have a nice night.

You don't want to feel all of this stuff.

And you don't want to have bad race relations.

I mean, some do, but I think a very, very small number do.

And,

you know, you can change things

if you're leading by example.

But it's going to be hard because there's a lot of people that have power that don't want to fix these things.

I'm convinced of it.

They don't want to fix these problems.

Well, that's why I'm in this, Glenn, is that I think if yesterday's politician was going to fix it, it would have happened already.

But I think it's going to take a new generation that says, I'm not even making this about Republican versus Democrat politics.

You know, I mean, is there a dimension to it we could?

Sure, but forget about that.

Common sense, right?

Should you follow the law?

Should you be able to enjoy your cities without fear of getting beaten up or assaulted?

Should you be able to speak your mind freely in the open without fear of government retribution?

These are the basic tenets of just what it means to be an American, to live in the best country known to the history of mankind.

That's what it means to be an American.

I think it's the birthright of every American to live those basic aspects of the American dream.

And I want to at least revive the Ohio dream and the version of that in the heart of the country that represents the country.

And you're right, people are hungry to be led.

At this point, you know, it's easy to just tell your followers the same things they want to hear, and it's easy to just preach, you know, and lambast, you know, the other side.

I'm not doing that.

What I want to do is I want to speak truth.

And there are a lot of people in the inner city of Cincinnati who are every bit as worried about this epidemic of crime that might have voted Democrat in the past that still don't feel safe.

And the fact of the matter is, we have an opportunity to bring them into our tent and our coalition as well.

That's what I'm working to do.

And I think it's basic common sense, safety, a good education, the economic mobility, and the right to speak freely.

These are your birthrights as Americans.

And that's what we're going to fight for and revive here in the state of Ohio.

Well, I have to tell you, Vivek, thank you.

And,

you know, if you've listened to me for a long time, I don't endorse people,

but I also don't lie to you and tell you, you know, something.

I don't pretend to be neutral when I'm not.

If I lived in Ohio, I would be voting for Vivek.

I think he is dynamic and

part of a very bright future.

Vivekforohio.com is

his address where you can go find out more about his candidacy and maybe help him out as well.

Vivek, I'd love to talk to you next week after you have had this meeting to see how it went.

Yeah, I'll tell you what we learned.

Take care.

Thank you very much.

Vivek Ramaswamy, Ohio Gubernatorial Camp.

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So we've had some really good news about the GDP growth this week, and we had a disastrous job

report come out today.

They have just revised the last two months and

we are down in jobs and

to me this

is not

well I don't want to say this in just a sentence or two.

Next hour we're going to start with the job report and talk to you about

what I think the truth is that nobody on any side in business or politics is willing to say.

I'm just dumb enough to say it.

We'll do that when we come back.

It's Friday.

This is Glenn Beck.

Final hour of the week, Stu.

What do we have to talk about?

I really want to talk about the job market and the future here.

We have to do that.

What else have we missed today that we have to hit?

Well, today's Liberation Day Part 2 also kind of ties into that conversation.

Liberation Day Part 2?

Yeah, that's all the tariffs and stuff.

Today's August 1st.

Now, the way they introduced those, we can go into this as well, is that actually they're not going to kick until August 7th.

And then a lot of the stuff that is going to be hit won't actually be hit until October.

So,

you know,

the markets are reacting negatively, but like, you know, not catastrophically to

what everybody has been predicting.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I would agree with that exactly.

I think it's,

you know,

I think it's somewhat appropriate, honestly, to the level that we're talking about.

We're talking about higher tariffs, but again, tariffs are a small part.

You know,

importing goods is a small part of our economy.

So it could affect that part.

But well, hopefully the echoes aren't too large.

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It is Friday.

We had some good news about the GDP this week.

Up 3%.

That's really good news.

We had some, I think, bad news.

The Fed did not lower interest rates, so it's harder for the average American and harder on our debt.

But then we had some good news.

The dollar is the strongest it's been in years, which is kind of shocking.

And then today we had some bad news about the job numbers.

And I want to focus on that here for a second because I think a conversation has to be had that I'm not hearing anywhere.

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All right, Stu, go over the jobs report.

It just came out today.

Yeah, they showed a gain of 73,000 jobs.

This is not a particularly good number.

No.

I think you could look at it and say when you examine it a little closer, it does show some pretty strange things.

First of all, it seems almost all of the job gains are coming from the healthcare industry.

And that is consistent over several months.

In fact, there's a chart that shows the six-month change of employment.

And

most of the lines are either flat or slightly negative.

There's a couple industries that have slight growth, financial activities, leisure and hospitality.

Over well, I mean, it's almost like one of those old COVID charts with jobs where you just see all these little lines and then then there's this giant line that

careens off the screen almost.

Private education and health services are the industries that are showing almost all the growth in the United States right now.

I'm so glad to hear that about private education.

I mean, that shows that we are actively engaging in something that we know has failed us

and we are...

we're changing our lives as a people.

I think that's good.

The other thing,

healthcare, I would love to know

what parts of healthcare,

is that insurance or is that like doctors and nurses?

Do you have any idea?

I don't have the breakdown of that in front of me.

I can look for it, though.

It's probably in this data.

I'm just kind of scanning through a bunch of the data.

It does show without healthcare jobs, we've, as a nation, have lost jobs overall for three straight months.

Part of this was a major revision to the data, which showed a loss of 255,000 jobs from the two previous months that had already been reported.

So a major negative.

What is wrong with this?

Why can't they get this right?

This is not that hard.

This was happening, you know,

the last four years, much worse than that.

And now it's happening again.

You're talking about just revisions?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, there have always been revisions.

It does seem to be

bigger lately.

So you look at all that, and this is a largely

discouraging report, I would say, overall.

But

we're seeing in some of the prediction markets,

odds for a recession are going up.

However, what we're talking about as far as where they resolved is like 15 to 20% is what people are saying is a chance for a recession.

So it's not like, again, a lot of times I think this stuff gets blown out of proportion and everybody's catastrophic or incredibly jubilant, right?

Like, oh, gosh, everything's working.

You know, we shut up all these economists.

They were all wrong.

I think what we're seeing now is it's probably too early to take a victory lap or, you know, jump off a building.

Doom parade.

You know, I have to tell you,

I think we should take a moment here and recognize, do you remember what the economy was like?

You know, six months ago, a year ago?

Everything was trending in the wrong direction.

Everything was trending in the wrong direction.

For us not to be in a recession at this point, I think is pretty remarkable, especially with the amount of changes that Donald Trump is making to some of the fundamental structures of America.

You know,

look at the job numbers and then the numbers of the people he has fired from government.

When you're talking about reducing, for instance, the Department of Education by 50%,

that is going to affect your job numbers.

It's going to.

Yeah, and it's important to note as well, and that is in the data.

The government jobs are down.

Again, not

to a point where it would outweigh some of the other stuff we're talking about, but it is down.

We expect there to be more of that

coming.

And, you know, I think you can look at that and I think it is an important factor.

It doesn't necessarily overwhelm the fact that these reports for jobs have not been positive.

It doesn't overwhelm that because, again, to me and you,

government jobs going away is a necessary thing.

It might hurt the job number reports for a few months.

It's like Carol Roth has been saying for months.

Got to be careful.

Don't want to move too fast on that.

Yeah, you don't want to move.

Yep, and I think you've got to be careful.

But

I look at that as a situation that is needed.

And I think Donald Trump does as well.

So I don't look at that and say, okay, well, that's, you know, I'm going to sit here and cry about government jobs going away.

And it'll take time for people who've lost those government jobs to find their way in, you know, in another industry.

But it is an important part to note that that is

a chunk of this picture.

Aaron Powell, so here's what I would really,

like to, I'd like to try to reframe this in your mind as a listener,

if I can.

We have got to stop looking at everything through the lens

of the glasses that we have always used.

Our entire life, my entire life, you can look at job numbers and you can say, well, it's this or this and we have to fix this, and this is growth, and this is not.

And, you know, here's the growth industry.

Honestly, we don't know what tomorrow holds anymore because of AI, because of this

AI revolution that we are on the verge of.

And

I've told you this for years, but maybe it will start to make sense to you.

Between now and 2030,

that's four years, now and 2030, there will be as much change to

business and life itself as there has been for the last 400 years.

So from the moment of the Enlightenment until today,

that amount of change is coming in the next four to five years.

And that's so huge, it's hard to believe or get your arms around.

But that is true.

So when we look at jobs, I mean, you know, if I I were looking short-term and I'm 20 and I'm like, okay, what do I do?

I learn how to weld.

I learn how to build.

I learn how to get involved in building power plants and server farms because I know that's an industry that is going to grow in the next five to 10 years.

It's going to be non-stop growth.

And AI is not going to be able to take over.

an actual build yet.

Maybe in the 10 years, maybe, but not right away.

So it's going to take labor.

If I'm looking to do something in labor, that's the kind of labor I'm looking at.

You know, but when you're going to school, what do you go to school for?

Healthcare,

and I'm telling you,

being a doctor is getting harder and harder.

You don't necessarily, you know, make the kind of money that you used to because you've got this gigantic bill you're paying off.

And it's very frustrating.

And I believe within 10 years, I think easy in 10 years,

there's going to be so much growth on AI that

your job as a doctor will be more of hand-holding

than anything else.

I mean, you still for a while will be doing surgery, but if you're a doctor, you should be doing robotic surgery right now.

You should be looking, you should be leading the movement in robotic surgery to be able to do what you do faster and better and using new technology.

In healthcare,

I think the growth, and I could be wrong, I don't know anything about healthcare,

just trying to understand.

Let me say it this way.

What is the biggest problem our kids are dealing with right now?

They're dealing with nothing having meaning.

And they're dealing with the, whether they know it or not, they're dealing with these problems because they don't have

real human connection anymore.

They're talking to each other all the time, but it's all on, you know,

it's all on text.

They're not relating.

And when you're sick, there comes a time that you're going to need human interaction and you're going to be monitored by all kinds of AI devices and everything else and you're in the hospital, whatever.

You may not have a lot of nurses because AI will be doing all of the grunt work, if you will.

But there's going to come a time where nurses are so important because they're your human connection.

You need to look somebody in the eye who's human that can hold your hand.

The empathetic things are going to be a growth industry.

And I'm not sure I even know what this is.

I'm just thinking about these things out loud.

But sending your kid into college right now to be an accountant,

again,

this is not my area of expertise.

So take it for what it's worth.

But I would reconsider.

If you're going in for law, I would reconsider.

Already, you know, the law clerks, those jobs are gone.

Those jobs are gone or quickly going away because you can get AI to do so much.

You're going to need somebody to argue cases, but you're not going to need somebody that needs to go through,

you know,

go through all of the records, all of the law check.

You know, can you read this contract and check this contract to make sure it's right?

AI is already doing most of that.

You know, you just don't necessarily know that, but the attorneys do.

You're going to school, and in this time,

it might be better until we know

what's coming, to focus on trade,

to focus on trade schools, for instance, you know, building, welding, healthcare,

things that you can do even temporarily.

Or honestly, things that make you more empathetic.

Instead of building debt for a world where you just don't know what's going to be I mean, honestly,

accounting,

the machine's going to do it.

A machine is going to do it.

It's just the way it is.

You're going to need the personal interface, but

this large pool is not going to be needed, and everything is going to change.

So when you're looking at these job numbers, what we should be talking about is that

these numbers

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So, when I say we're going to look back and say these jobs,

you know, these job numbers were a dream come true, what I mean is as AI

becomes stronger and stronger, there are going to be other jobs.

I don't know what they are yet.

There are going to be other jobs that grow that we may not be thinking about right now.

That's why I wouldn't rack up debt to go into accounting or law.

But

be careful with your debt because those those jobs may be gone.

Other jobs will be created, but there's going to be this massive overturn of jobs and lots of job losses coming.

If you're going, what we should be teaching our kids right now is not,

you know, our entire education system is built on this is going to be on the test.

Hey, write this down because this is going to be on the test.

Why are tests so important right now?

Why?

Why is that memorization stuff of dates and names so important?

Because this system was created to get you to follow rules.

Can you follow rules?

Can you do what you're asked to do?

This is going to be on the test.

Write this down and remember this.

Okay?

It's not taught to teach you to think outside of the box.

It's teaching you to remain in the box.

All right.

That was important in 1950, 1970, even maybe 1990.

It was important that you could assemble a car, that you could stand in line, you could do these things, okay?

But that's not what's going to be important in the very near future.

We're not talking 20 years down the road, we're talking five and ten years down the road.

What's important is not

what to think, but how to think.

How to think.

They were teaching us how to get a job, how to work in these industries.

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We're in a time period.

Think of...

Think of what it was like between 1850 and 1930.

That's the span of somebody's lifetime.

Think about about what they saw.

My father said to me, you know, he was born in 1926, Glenn, when I was growing up, we never thought about going to the moon.

That wasn't even a possibility.

And he said, now we're on the moon, we're in space, we have computers.

Think of that.

That's the kind of stuff that is going to happen in five years.

You will go from that kind of change.

That happened over the lifespan of my father.

This is going to happen in really the time your kids are going to go to school or graduate school, it'll all be different and it will continue to change.

We have to have the conversations of no debt, no debt, not for education, stay out of debt.

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without having to get somebody else to do it?

You know,

you look at some of the things that is happening with Generation X.

They are teaching themselves by using YouTube, they're teaching themselves how to fix a sink, how to do different things, and they're doing it really kind of out of entertainment in a way.

A lot of them are just watching, and you're like, you don't have a sink, you don't own a sink, what are you doing?

I don't know, I just find this fascinating.

I think that's because there is a call now to real things and real work and doing things with your own hands, usable skills, usable skills, critical thinking.

And the last thing that we should be encouraging our kids to explore and learn is anything about meaning.

Meaning is going to be,

it's already crisis level.

That's why our kids are killing themselves.

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They don't know how to find meaning.

That has been a lifetime struggle for most of us, but

it is a critical situation for our kids.

So no debt, usable skills, critical thinking, and meaning.

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Welcome to the Glad Back Program.

We're glad you're here.

There's lots of things going on we still have to get to.

I want to kind of continue our conversation that we were just having about,

you know, the economy and everything else.

And, you know, Stu and I were just talking about trade, and, you know, both of us are free trade people.

And, you know, so far,

you know, things are going a lot better than all the experts said would go on.

However, there's lots of reasons for that.

We don't have to get into them now.

But

so

I don't know if we've seen the impact.

We've seen some good things, but have we seen any of the negative impact on it?

We don't know because a lot of it doesn't come into play.

Supposed to come into play today, but now it's been moved to what, August 7th?

Yeah, so yeah, the way they implemented these were they were going to be August 1st.

They're now going to be August 7th.

And then,

but that doesn't cover, like, we should not still be seeing stuff, a lot of products with the tariffs

for at least a couple of months because what they're saying is it's basically the actual deadline of when we're going to have all products that are going to be tariffed at these rates, assuming these policies stay consistent, will be I think October 5th.

So there's going to be a couple more months here before these things really kick in.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So one of the reasons why he's doing this is

because of, you know, he feels that we need to be treated fairly, and so he wants to, you know, put the kind of restrictions on them shipping stuff to us as they have had on for years.

I think he's going, you know, a little further with some countries.

You know, India is one that I look at and go, gosh, you know, India is a good friend, and they're a huge, huge power and an offset for China.

Let's not push India away.

But

I

let me tell you a story about, I was just on the phone with the people at Burna, they're sponsors of the program, and

they make this Burna launcher.

It's a great

self-defense gun, really, except it's not a gun.

It fires tear gas pellets at very high velocity and

will save your children and your family and you from problems.

But anyway,

you know, they've always been made, or I shouldn't say that, they've always been assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

And they've been very proud of that.

But they, you know, when they first started making these, you know, there's a lot of stuff that you just couldn't make in America.

You couldn't get it from America.

I remember when we started 1791, we could not get a good, and of all things, baseball hat made in America that wasn't $55, you know, as a blank, you know.

And so

we'd have to go someplace else to get it.

And it drove me nuts.

Now that has slowly changed over time, but there was a big change when it comes to COVID.

And between COVID, when Burna, when COVID hit, they were like, okay, supply chains, this isn't good because we have, you know, all of these parts being made overseas.

We can't complete anything.

if we don't have those, if we don't have the supply chain.

And company after company after company figured that one out and then when donald trump also said i want things made here in america they for one and i think a lot of companies did this good companies did this but burna did this they started saying okay we we have to find ways to make things here in america and find the people who will make these parts for us here in america well in the last few years they're now 90 percent of everything in a burna launcher is made here in america that's pretty astonishing would it be great to be 100%?

Yes, and that's their goal.

But 90% is astonishing.

You know,

look at your truck, your Ford truck, is 90% of it made here in America?

Not a chance in the world.

And so there's two sides of this.

To do trade, to balance things out,

make sure that we're not getting screwed by other nations, et cetera, et cetera.

That's important.

But when you look at India, I want to have really good good relationship with India,

just like I want a really good relationship with Canada as well.

Canada, however, to me is more important than India is in one way, and that is

I can drive a truck across the border.

You know, the global supply chain isn't so bad when it's Mexico or

Canada.

And so, you know, anything we can do to bring things back into America to make them, you You know, that's one of the arguments that Stu and I were both talking about here off the air, you know, in the last hour was,

you know, with everything changing so much, you know, creating things that are made here in America.

And, you know, how are you going to believe that jobs are going to be created here when you don't know how things are going to be made?

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But we must make things here in America, not

just for the future, for AI, et cetera, et cetera, but

because the supply chain, we learned our lesson, or did we?

Yeah, it's interesting because I think one of the

midpoints, like, because there was an acknowledgement that building everything in America, first of all, it's never a good idea to have everything in one basket, right?

North Korea does this.

They have everything as much as possible made inside their country.

It can be a problem, too.

That's not.

Well, it's still a communist country, though.

No, I know, but like it's an insular communist country.

And so they want to keep everything inside the country.

Like we've seen this with, we've had manufacturing problems here in the United States.

We're not perfect.

It's good to have alternative sources for things, right?

It's good.

It's one thing, it's competition.

Competition always makes everybody and every product better.

Yeah.

I mean, when you're totally reliant on outside of your country, you know, it could be a negative.

But there's always been an acknowledgement that we obviously are a wealthy nation.

Things cost more to do here.

We pay our employees more.

All these things that are part of the package.

Everyone understands them.

One of the things that we tried to do as a midpoint in saying, hey, it's probably not healthy for us to be relying on the Chinese Communist Party for everything that we need.

How can we work around that?

And a big part of that was to focus on Canada and Mexico.

And

I could be wrong on this, Glenn, but like

it seems like President Trump is saying, hey, we need to move as much as we can back here.

But the one country he's been, I don't know, almost oddly lenient with has been Mexico.

You know, over and over, he just announced another pause with Mexico.

And he seems to be giving this president of Mexico, you know, the weird treatment he does, which is like really compliment them while at the same time negotiating really hard with them.

He has that way about him, and that relationship seems to be one that he's focusing on.

And look, you know, it would be good for us if we had

a place where where we could get cheaper goods made that would supply the needs of the U.S.

marketplace and also help a country at some level.

Mexico having a terrible economy is not good for us.

We don't want to.

I mean, it's almost a failed narco-state

in many ways at this point.

And that's not good.

That's not good.

That's why I'm actually glad to see him.

Because I can guarantee you things are happening behind the scenes.

Yeah.

I And he's working towards something.

He's not just like, you know, Mexico is a great place to go on vacation.

Right.

Right.

It's not happening.

Yeah.

So, I mean, I think we have to acknowledge that at some level,

there just has to be a mix, a better mix than we've developed over the years.

And, you know, I don't know, you know, again, I don't love all the tariff policy stuff, but I think that is certainly Trump's goal here

is to make

that situation more healthy.

And, you know, you hope it works.

I am concerned, you know, because we do have a lot of,

I think we have a lot of negative things that are inside of our economy that we're working through.

We've been talking about spending and debt forever.

That doesn't seem to be getting any better at the moment.

I think a lot of the things Trump has done has improved the economy and are helping us, certainly with energy, is really making us even more of a force than we were before.

And that's more positive.

Taking off the Obama, what is it?

Oh, the Declaration of Harm.

Declaration of Harm.

When it comes to global warming, massive.

That is, that's probably the biggest

repeal of regulation, at least in 100 years.

That's huge.

It's a huge one.

I mean, tons of regulations are based off that finding back from, I think it was 2009.

Yeah.

And so Lee Zeldon's working on getting that overturned.

There's a process to that that it'll take some time.

But like, that's a real, a real positive.

And look, I don't like, man, I'm not a tariff guy, as you mentioned,

but it is important to keep it in perspective.

We have a $30 trillion economy.

Imports, especially imported goods, are

about 10% of that.

So, you know, right now, what we have as an effective tariff rate before

August 7th, right now it's been about 8.8%, I think, overall, which is a lot higher than we've had.

But you're talking about an 8% tax on 10% of our economy.

It shouldn't throw us into into catastrophic collapse.

No.

And what we have here, you know, again, I don't like these policies, but I think they are far less damaging than what was initially proposed.

Right.

But I think you're also maybe,

you know, we all tend to not look at the favorable

tariff lowering from the other countries.

You know, when

he makes a deal with Europe and now we can sell our autos into Germany or to Japan, that makes a difference.

It's absolutely unreasonable to buy an American vehicle over in Europe.

It's unreasonable for a myriad of reasons, but

the former tariffs that they had on us made it ridiculous.

There's nobody going to buy one.

Nobody.

I love though.

I mean, look, those parts of the agreements where we're lowering tariffs on stuff that we're exporting, I think is fantastic and should continue.

You know, that is, I think,

an objective positive.

And, you know, there's obviously, I know we never certainly didn't get to 90 trade agreements in 90 days by any means.

There's still a lot of work to do on that front.

But, I mean, he does seem to be working to get there.

So, you know, look, I think people get overwhelmed by this stuff.

And, you know, it is still a small chunk of the economy.

He hasn't touched tariffs on imported services, which is also a big part of this.

Like, he just left that out there.

So that's a whole nother thing.

It's just been goods.

And if, you if it keeps maintained to these levels, I don't think it'll be positive for the economy.

And I'm worried about it stacking up on each other.

But I don't think it's going to destroy us either.

Which we were both afraid of.

At those older rates,

I think much more immediately noticeable.

I mean, when you look at all of these negotiations.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, and we talked about that at the time.

I think

you said

when you have these things, you look at all the tariff studies that have been done over the years,

the price hikes tend to come within a year or two of the hikes.

It's not like

they get raised by 15% and 15%, they go up.

They slowly work their way through the economy.

And

importing trade is one thing.

One of the other things we have is American companies that make things that, as you kind of mentioned earlier, that have parts imported.

So it winds up hitting domestic stuff as well.

We hope that we can just avoid a lot of that.

And I think part of the reason why we might be able to offset some of it is because the other changes he's making in the economy are

really helping, right?

Like energy being, I think, the biggest thing you can point to.

So again, it's just going to be a complicated picture, and we're not going to know the results of it for a couple of years.

It makes everybody uncomfortable, but it's the truth.

I want to mention one other thing.

I'm going to take a quick break and then come back.

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It's Friday.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

You know, I was thinking yesterday,

I don't remember what was in the news, and I saw President Trump, and he was, I don't know, on the moon or wherever he was.

And I thought, this guy, how is he doing this?

I am

so tired all the time,

I feel like.

And this guy is

just running and running and running and running.

And I thought, has there been, and I'd like to get your opinion on this, Stu, has there been a harder working president

than this one?

Now, and I say this, I don't, I say this knowing that a lot of presidents worked really hard.

FDR worked really, really hard.

You know, he did a lot of stuff.

However,

the times are different now.

It's constant 24-7 news cycle.

It's constantly battling everything

it's uh constantly um

uh social media things on the other side of the globe you're traveling here and there

i think in the last 30 years maybe i don't think there's been a harder working president than this one you may not agree with what he's doing but

but honestly have you seen i mean the how many vacations how many days off did uh was uh barack Barack Obama taking all the time?

Same thing with George Bush, same thing, all of them.

They were always taking vacations.

Joe Biden was always on the beach.

This guy,

I mean, I don't think he takes a couple of hours off every day.

It's amazing.

It is amazing, especially, I mean, remember, you forget this guy is in his late 70s.

I don't know how he has the energy to do this stuff.

I have to tell you, there's very few people.

I think maybe Elon Musk could keep up with it.

But he has, as he always says, great genes

and he's never had to sleep an awful lot.

You know, he's always like, if you didn't have to sleep, can you imagine what you could accomplish?

Yeah, that.

You could do that.

I just don't think anybody, and everybody should recognize that, even if you disagree with what he's doing, I don't think anyone has worked this hard as President of the United States, especially in their first six months.

This is Glenn Beck