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Hello, Stu.

Glad America is back.

America is, Morica is back.

Merca is back.

Not just America.

Merica is back.

And I want to bring you some, I want to bring you some slight evidence of that.

Let me just show you.

Well, let me start in 2019.

Here's an American Eagle ad

from 2019.

Do we have it?

Yeah, there.

There we go.

This is an American Eagle ad from 2019.

I'm showing you a poster of a very large Lizzo-style woman.

Lizzo

style.

I mean, look at the size of that woman.

Okay.

That's a lot of denim.

That's a lot of denim.

Didn't know America made that much denim, but that's 2019.

Now, let me show you

with Sidney Sweeney a new ad

for America and American Eagle.

She's in tight jeans, a tank top, white tank top, and she's

getting into a Ford GT350,

a Mustang.

Hello.

Hello.

Recognizing the American man again.

You get into a Mustang, a GT350, which is a lot of people on their I Wish I Had That Car list.

Sweeney, which is on a lot of people's I Wish I Had That Gal list.

Gentlemen tend to appreciate her.

They do.

She's not ashamed of her looks.

No.

She

doesn't mind if she dresses to impress the male species.

That ad is directly aimed at American men, the kind of men that everyone has said for the last 10 years should be ashamed of themselves.

I will say I don't agree with that.

It is not at all aimed at the typical American man.

It is aimed at the typical American woman because it is saying to women who this is true about a lot of them, don't you want to look good for men?

That's what it's saying.

Wow.

It's not even saying, because I mean, I'm not buying those jeans.

She looks hot in the jeans, but I'm not buying the jeans.

Who's buying the jeans?

Well, American Eagle does both, right?

Yeah, but I'm not buying American Eagle jeans because Sidney Sweeney looks great in American Eagle jeans.

No, but I will pay attention to American Eagle.

Very true.

I might go into American Eagle, whatever I wouldn't before.

But, like, what I think what they're acknowledging there is, hey, men and women are attracted to each other.

Yes.

When you present an image of a woman who's attractive to men, women might want to buy the products that make them also look attractive to men.

And that's okay.

Either way, this ad would not have happened a few years ago, just two years ago.

Would not have happened.

Do I need to bring up the American Eagle thing one more time?

Yeah, okay.

That's where we were.

Yes, the

Lizzo

model in

American Eagle jeans.

Now, this is the first jeans that I have seen where, you know, you have that style where they're ripped jeans.

Okay.

These might be ripped because of her trying to get into them.

Yeah, I mean, structurally, this ad is more impressive.

The fact that they can keep all that together is really like, hey, maybe they do make incredible jeans.

And who's that supposed to impress?

Now, but I mean, and like.

You would say that's shooting towards women.

Hey, be comfortable in your own skin, right?

And look, there's nothing wrong with that.

I happen to be one of the people who's a little larger than the average model in an

hour to detect, but yeah.

But like, there's nothing wrong with people

advertising to people who are larger.

But I mean, there's also nothing wrong with someone being hot and having a muscle car.

And

we've totally threw that away for years and years.

I have no problem.

Celebrate your diversity.

I have no problem.

You know, I really have a problem where, you know, if you're overweight, you can't get a good pair of jeans.

You can't get nice clothing.

You got to go to Target or Walmart to get clothing.

And not that Walmart and Target doesn't have nice clothing.

But it is the place where you can't go into a,

you can't go into a, I don't know, Ralph Lauren or or some, you know, really like big scale, upscale brand, and they don't make 3x.

You know what I mean?

Right.

They don't make it unless it's for like basketball players.

Then they'll make it.

It's just 3x tall.

All right.

And that really bothers me because there are all kinds of different bodies, but we were denying.

that there are different style bodies and

we were glorifying fat.

No, we shouldn't glorify fat.

Right.

Shouldn't glorify it.

And also, like,

America.

America.

MERICA is not just about muscle cars and Sidney Sweeney, although it's a wonderful piece of it.

Yeah, well.

It's also about aspiring toward something, right?

Muscle cars and Sweeney.

Right.

Well, that is that.

Yeah, right.

But like, you know, the thing that drives me more crazy than anything that politicians say, and it's mostly Democrats, but Republicans say it as well.

It's like, you know, this is a great country, and we need to get back to where we've been.

You know, this is a country that's always aspired to be in the middle class.

And it's like, well, there's nothing wrong with being in the middle class, but that's not what we're supposed to be aspiring for.

We aspire for the best.

We're America.

Of course we aspire for the best.

That doesn't mean only material things.

I can give you the 9,000 disclaimers I'm supposed to on that sentence.

But at the end of the day, we don't aspire to be middle class.

There's nothing wrong with being middle class.

i would rephrase that mediocre middle in the middle yeah when you're talking about finances right but you're talking that is the middle right but there is no problem and i know you're not saying this there is no problem

wanting to be in the middle class if your priorities are for

uh you know having a happy family you know right you know but like you know having that having that lawn with a picket fence or whatever it is that you dream that's a separate it's a separate aspiration It is because I think of course we aspire to that.

I aspire to that more than I would aspire to be an elitist or have millions of dollars.

Right, but I don't, what I, what I, what I think is it's not about what class you're in.

It's to that you have the right to dream your own dream and accomplish it, to have a chance to accomplish it.

You're locking me in disclaimer prison.

And what I'm, but what I am literally saying is when the commentary is about class, which is what I'm bringing up.

Yes, yes, okay.

We don't aspire to be middle class.

Like everyone who's in middle class has struggles in their lives, right?

They might have to pay, you know, they might have struggles paying for health insurance or their rent or their mortgage or whatever it is.

And everyone aspires to not have those problems.

There's nothing wrong with saying that.

It's a lot easier.

Life is a lot easier when you have more money.

And then you can do all those things.

And you know what?

If you make millions and millions of dollars and you're just the most perfect person and you don't want to spend any money on any material things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah you can give it all away and do even more good the bottom line is we have to like act like we don't want to do better we have to act like we all are okay with it being 85 pounds overweight it's okay it's wonderful let's celebrate maybe we shouldn't maybe let's

that's the problem we celebrate the mediocre or the dangerous when it comes to fat.

We have been celebrating that.

We should not celebrate that.

We should celebrate the fact that you have the ability to do whatever you want.

But everybody who is celebrating the middle says you can't get past the middle.

You may never even get to the middle because someone's holding you down.

Whether it's some party or it is the country or the system, it's rigged against you.

You know, it's not rigged against you.

It's not.

And even if it is rigged against you, so what are you going to do?

Well, you work around it.

You find a way around.

You know what?

You know what was rigged against the pioneers?

The Rocky Mountains.

Crossing the country and getting to the Pacific, it was as if the land was rigged against it.

So you find a way through them.

And we all aspire to climb the front half of the mountain and stop about three-quarters of the way up and just live there.

That's what we all aspire to.

Yeah, go ahead.

Although, i will tell you i would have

oh i wouldn't have i wouldn't have aspired to it i would have hoped i could have achieved it but known i would have failed yeah i don't even think i would have gone three quarters up i think i would have stood at the base of it and gone i'm not doing no thank you no thank you no thank you not doing it uh i mean but there would have been that moment where you woke up like you were listening to some podcast that was inspirational you're like you know tomorrow I'm climbing that mountain.

I'm going to the other side.

You would have been at some 1800s Tony Robbins convention and went, I'm climbing that mountain.

And then three days later, you'd be like, that was crazy.

I should have in no way.

But like, again, in a way, this ad with Sidney Sweeney is a way of acknowledging a couple of things.

One, most men.

Would would would like the idea of having

a relationship, a girlfriend, and when they're younger or whatever that looks like Sidney Sweeney.

And it also is acknowledging that most women would like to look like Sidney Sweeney at some version, right?

Yes.

Now, I will acknowledge she's a little top heavy.

Probably later in life is going to be falling over and not be able to stand up straight.

But that's a whole thing that's separate.

Maybe at that point they wouldn't acknowledge it.

But like, generally speaking, people like to be attractive.

It's okay to acknowledge those things.

That does not mean it's the most important thing in life.

No.

It's like

the car is.

The car is.

The car is pretty great.

The GT350.

That's a pretty important thing.

Yeah, that's important.

But you should, it's not the only thing you should aspire to.

It's not the most important thing.

But it's it's okay to acknowledge that it's these things are great.

It's okay.

It's great.

It's a great part of American life.

And isn't that what America was?

It's okay.

It's okay.

Nobody was trying.

I've never tried to jam my version of America down anyone's throat.

I have stood for people who were on the opposite side when

they were thrown under the bus by the left or the right.

I've stood with them because I'm not.

It's okay.

We can handle it.

You know, America is a tough place.

We were the people who crossed the mountains.

We're rugged.

We're tough.

We can take it.

And once we start coddling everybody, that's when it all falls apart.

And by the way, there's a second ad for Sweeney.

And here it is.

Here it is now.

My body's composition is determined by my genes.

Oh my gosh.

Look at that.

Eyes appear.

So funny.

City Sweeney has great genes.

So now, I would just like to point out, so this ad goes right to her cleavage.

And then the camera is pulled back up to her eyes.

That is.

Can we stop playing?

It's distracting.

Now we could look at this ad and say, yes, but it still has.

It still has a progressive message.

All about the genes.

they're still trying to engineer people she has great genes and you can be spliced into that so easily you could look at it that way maybe they're maybe they're just using her to push their eugenics message oh yeah it could be could be

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Did you watch Powell and Donald Trump with the hard hats?

Yes.

It was a fun moment, I felt like.

Let me play you just a clip.

Yesterday, Donald Trump went to the Federal Reserve, first time I think in two decades that a president has made an official visit to the Federal Reserve.

Yeah, it was George W.

Bush, right?

Yeah.

So he comes in and he's getting a tour in hard hats

throughout the Federal Reserve because they're making a

trillion and a half dollar

renovation of the Federal Reserve.

Trillion and a half dollars.

Not trillion and a half.

No, sorry, trillion and a half.

Sorry.

Because that would be an awesome building.

I know, but billion doesn't sound like a lot anymore, does it?

No, it doesn't.

Yeah, so a billion and a half dollar renovation.

So you know, Donald Trump said yesterday that he redid the old post office and made it into a really nice hotel.

And remember, bathrooms and kitchens are the most expensive.

It had like 200 marble-slabbed bathrooms in it for 200 million.

So this is quite the renovation that the Federal Reserve is doing on your tax dollar.

And you can complain, you might say, oh, Donald Trump,

all the people on the media are like, ah, he doesn't know enough about this and he doesn't know enough about that.

He knows enough about this.

Yeah, he does.

If there's anyone who knows how to renovate a building, it's probably him.

Okay, so listen,

here is the back and forth between Trump and Powell.

It looks like it's about 3.1 billion.

It went up a little bit or a lot.

So the 2.7 is now 3.1.

I'm not aware of that.

Yeah, it just came out.

Yeah, I don't know.

So he takes out.

No, that's what it is.

And he takes out a sheet.

He's like, here, Powell, here it is.

3.1?

3.1, 3.2.

This came from us?

Yes.

I don't know who did this.

Awkward.

You're including the Martin renovation.

Our entire capital plan?

You You just added in a third building, is what that is.

That's a third building.

Oh, yeah, but it's a building that's being built.

No, it was built five years ago.

We finished Martin five years ago.

We finished it over.

It's part of the overall work.

So we're going to take a look.

We're going to see what's happening.

And it's got a long way.

Do you expect any more additional cross-dollar loans?

Don't expect them.

We're ready for them.

But we're ready for them.

With our tax dollars.

Okay.

That's an amazing clip for a hundred different reasons.

Yeah, right.

And when they first met, I don't know, do we have the video of him just getting slapped on the back?

Look at this.

Like it's got a long way to go.

Yes, sir.

So President,

are there things the chairman can say to you today that would make you back off some of the earlier criticism?

Well, I'd love him to lower interest rates.

Other than that, I'm going to take a look at it.

Wax him on the back.

Wax him on the back.

Okay.

This is Donald Trump.

This is the way

that visit was all about intimidation.

Okay.

The slapping on the back, the aggressive handshakes that he gives.

Okay.

I mean, that's the guy he is.

And it's not, it's just the guy he is.

And he dominates the room.

You walk into any room with Donald Trump, even before he was president.

He controls the room.

He just does.

He's a guy who just walks in and all the oxygen goes right to him.

It's an amazing thing to watch.

Yeah, these are old school power dynamics.

Yes.

Right.

I mean, but they work.

They work.

They work.

I mean, because, like, you watch that clip.

There's no reason to have that moment in front of cameras.

Nope.

That was a moment.

Correct me if you think I'm wrong.

It was planned.

Yeah, I was going to say.

Do you think it was planned?

Absolutely.

Number one, he does it in front of cameras.

He's saying basically there's a massive cost overrun

by the guy he's standing next to in front of cameras, which would be an embarrassing moment for this guy in theory.

Then he also has a letter in his jacket to pull out when he says, no, that's not happening.

He pulls it out.

He knows that's coming.

Now, look,

the building was finished five years ago.

It is a...

What his point was, you're right, you're right.

But his point was, it is, this is part of your renovation.

Right.

But it's not new.

I know.

I mean, it's not a new cost overrun, the way he's presenting it.

But he's doing that intentionally because it's old school power dynamics, right?

Because this seems to be something that Trump thinks about a lot for a lot of different reasons.

So let me show you what he did.

What he's doing here is the same.

What has he been saying about Powell?

He's been saying

he's dumb.

He needs to resign.

He's dumb.

He's saying he's dumb.

We have a dumb person at the Fed who's not lowering interest rates.

That tactic, the best

example of that tactic is Little Rocket Man.

Look at Little Rocket Man.

Yeah, well, Little Rocket Man, maybe I'm just going to to have to wipe him off the face of the earth.

And then what does he do?

He goes where no president has ever gone before to Little Rocket Man space and sucks all the oxygen out of that room, okay?

And stands next to this giant standing next to Little Rocket Man.

Did you notice

how big Trump looked next to Little Powell?

I mean, it was almost the same power dynamic, okay?

And Powell knows.

Powell knows.

Trump, I think, is older than Powell.

And look at how young Trump looks next to Powell.

He does look younger, yeah.

So he's been saying Little Rocket Man, Little Rocket Man, Little Rocket Man.

He then goes to

the place where Little Rocket Man is, in this case, the Federal Reserve.

And then what happens?

What is he saying today?

You know,

I'm not going to fire Powell because I think he's going to do the right thing.

I mean, we had a really nice meeting.

And, you know,

while those cost overruns are important, I think he's got it under control.

I think he's going to, there's, I don't know if there's a reason to investigate.

Gives him an out, basically.

Gives him a complete out.

He has hit him hard.

Then he meets with him and hits him hard again in front of the press.

I can guarantee you they had a delightful conversation behind.

And he's now, we're now in that place where it's lather, rinse, repeat.

You don't repeat if everything is, your hair is clean, right?

You don't have to do it a second time if everything is fine.

So he'll do that.

Lather, rinse.

Am I going to repeat?

Do I have to repeat?

Because I'll repeat.

We'll go back to lather.

I just rinsed.

I lathered up.

Yesterday we rinsed.

Are you clean enough now?

Or do you need to repeat this cycle?

That's exactly what he's doing.

And he's kind of also giving him the message that I'm going to make your life a living hell every day.

And he's doing it in Powell's space.

Yeah.

There's something about doing it in someone else's space shows you do not have fear.

But he works on both sides of that, right?

Because he does sometimes go into their space and do this type of thing.

Yeah.

But also...

And this, because when I was watching this interaction, it reminded me of something you talked about about when you were in the White House, of the way he's designing the White House.

He's thinking about these old school power dynamics constantly when he's designing what the White House is like.

So he is, because this really bothers me because America isn't, we don't have palaces for our president.

And he's putting gold everywhere.

And

I didn't say to him that, you know,

hey,

the gold thing, you know, maybe you should cool your jets on that.

He brought it up to me

and he said,

look at the gold.

I I mean, this is beautiful.

And this is like, it's 24 carat gold.

Is that the most, is that the best?

24 carat, 12 carat?

I can't remember, but it's the most expensive kind of gold.

Okay.

It's not like spray paint gold.

It's not Dabalon.

It's actual gold leaf, really, really expensive.

And he's paying for all of it.

And

he said, he said, you like this?

I've got to go to leaf.

Basically, I'm going to go.

I'm thinking about gold leafing Melania soon.

And

I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, this is not an app.

This is not a palace.

And he almost sensed this, I think, from me.

He said,

you know, I know we don't have a palace, but everybody from foreign countries that comes in, they are around palaces.

They see power a certain way.

And he said, so I want to make sure when they're sitting in here, They understand this is the most powerful room in the world in every language that they might speak.

Okay.

So he's doing all this

to

to as a way to intimidate again.

And if you look at it, you would think United States is broke.

I can't believe they're gold leaving.

No, they're not.

He is.

So

he's not only saying this is the most powerful office, but I'm putting gold all over it because I'm wealthy and powerful because I, unlike maybe you Mac Ron I wasn't in politics I went out and actually built giant buildings in the biggest city in the world okay

so he's again exercising a power dynamic and when you watch him in those meetings where notice he has press conferences with these guys how do we usually announce big things with countries when their prime minister or their president comes over we we we put them up as equals They each get one question.

Right, back and forth.

You get the president on one side of the room and the foreign president or leader on the other side of the room.

They back and forth and they're equal.

And the flags are there.

Not with President Trump.

Very few are getting that.

They're all sitting down in his office.

in that intimidating space and a gaggle comes in and he's like, hey, I want to introduce you.

Here's the president of the Philippines.

He's a great guy.

We're doing doing some great stuff.

We got this new deal, blah, blah, blah.

And maybe the president of the Philippines will get one question.

Maybe.

Maybe, maybe.

Like, so are you really the president of the Philippines?

Okay.

Is that really a country?

I didn't know that.

So maybe he'll get one question.

But then that guy has to sit there uncomfortably while the president is answering questions.

about the world,

about the country, Elam Musk, or whatever else is going on in his life.

He has nothing to say, so he just sits there as a secondary.

That again is a negotiation tactic.

Donald Trump, people don't think he thinks about this stuff.

They don't think he's a deep thinker because maybe because of his language.

But I think his language is also a choice.

His language is a choice.

One, I know he can, I know he can, you know, he understands big words,

but he speaks the language of the common man for a couple of reasons.

One, I believe that was the language he learned in construction with his father, because he had to start working at the bottom.

You want to build a hotel, son?

Great.

Then you need to know how the air conditioning handlers work.

In fact, you're going to go down and work side by side, and you're going to help build them.

So he grew up.

in the business world talking to those guys.

That's why those guys love him because he speaks their language.

Also, have you noticed Donald Trump has started to let the F-bombs fly?

Now, why would he do that?

Why would he do that?

Did you see what Joe Rogan was just saying about Hunter Biden?

He was just saying, you know, the guy, he doesn't care.

He just uses the F-bombs like everybody else does.

And that was endearing.

to Rogan and also the Atlantic.

That, you know, he's just, he doesn't care.

He just is who he is.

Well, Donald Trump is showing you a little bit more who he is, where he wasn't in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.

Now he's speaking the language because I believe our culture is, not in a way I like, but our culture is changing and he is adapting to it as well.

The guy is brilliant.

I wish I could spend a month with him because I think I could write a book about Donald Trump and what, how he thinks.

Just spending a day with him a few weeks ago and hearing how he spoke about every piece of art in the what he selected every piece of art and where it should go.

And it was to clarify who he is and what he wants to accomplish, remind him what his job is.

So all the way from his bedroom all the way down to the oval, the

art on the wall is to remind him of who he is and what is doing.

If you're on a tour, you come in and you see Donald Trump on one wall and he selected Barack Obama for the other wall.

George Bush doesn't even have a painting in a bathroom.

He put Barack Obama there as a symbol of

we're a country that is split, but this house brings us all together.

Would anyone ever give him credit for thinking that way?

He's thinking about what the message is on the tour.

He's really brilliant.

And I think that's why things are changing so rapidly is because he's using, he knows how it works now.

He knows the game he's playing.

He's learned it.

He's mastered it.

And now he's just executing one after another.

Check, check, check, check.

And look at the results in six months.

This weekend is officially six months in.

He's accomplished more than I think any other president has accomplished in maybe their full term in six months.

Now, I'd like to see it codified, but if he had a Senate and a House that were actually,

you know, doing the business of the people, it would be codified.

But he has made more.

Let me give you an example of a couple of things he did yesterday.

I want you to think back in the last week.

What has he been doing?

He's been making your life

easier.

He is intentionally targeting your life.

He, no more shoes off

at the airport.

The shower

nozzles.

Now

you can no longer restrict how much water comes out.

Yesterday, the EPA rules on gas cans.

Anybody who's used the new gas can,

if you're in Dallas and outside, you might burst into flames after using the new gas cans.

He's saying that's ridiculous.

Spout the air out the right way.

Return to the normal gas can.

No president is thinking about gas cans.

He is

because you are most likely.

In a million different ways, he's going to target you.

and make your life easier or better because it gives you time.

Notice how he's talking now about the Fed.

He's not talking about,

and this is true because it goes right to the economy.

He's not talking about numbers and everything else and, you know, our economy and it's going to help our deficit.

He'll mention that.

But what is he doing now?

He's saying people can't afford to buy a new house.

So he needs to lower the interest rates by three points.

That will make the housing market explode.

Whether you agree with that or not not is a different thing.

But that's what he's saying now.

The average person.

And you know what?

If he doesn't do it, then I'm going to get rid of the tax.

When you sell your house, if you've made any money on that house, no gains, no capital gains on houses.

You know, if you have, you know, an income under X.

He's going right for the person who is struggling.

Again.

You can agree or disagree with what he's doing, but that's why he works.

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All right.

We had Jessica Bates on,

and she wanted to be a foster mom for two children after her husband died in a car crash.

She's a single mom to five biological children.

She was on because the state stopped her from being a foster mom.

Here's what what she told me.

Yeah, so I felt like God had put it on my heart to look into adoption and went ahead and got in touch with the Department of Human Services.

And after finishing their resource on adoptive families training, I let them know that some of their things that they teach about sexual orientation and gender identity, you have to

support

their views and you

have to take a child for cross-sex hormone injections or possibly post

pride flags or LGBTQ plus things on your lawn you have to support and I let them know my faith convictions I could not do that and they ended up denying my application to adopt

and did they come out and say that

There was a phone call where they basically said we're going to put you on hold.

If you change your mind, we can put your application back into circulation.

But we're going to put you on hold for now.

And then about two months later, they did officially deny me with a letter.

So here's what happened.

She's going to be able to begin the adoption process and continue her lawsuit against the state of Oregon because the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of her yesterday.

It upholds free speech and the free exercise of religion for Christian families hoping to foster or adopt and open their home to children in need.

The loser here is what a surprise, Oregon.

This is a big victory.

Now, I'm sure Oregon's not done.

It'll go to the Supreme Court, but I mean, I don't think Jackson Brown is really going to have, you know, her saying, her saying that.

What?

You're talking about Katanji Brown Jackson?

Yeah, whatever.

Jackson Brown is, is, you know, she's not going to convince anybody.

If she sang, maybe,

maybe Jackson Brown could, you know, convince a few people, but she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, if you know what I mean.

So that's good news.

Now, I got a little distracted on this story because we were playing this and I just, I saw me and I'm like, oh my gosh, I was Elvis.

I could have been dead on the bathroom floor.

Wow, this is my fat

days.

I mean, like really fat days.

Wow.

Do I not look like a man who's ready to die in that?

You look like a man who's pleading to die.

I might have been.

I might have been.

You look at that and you're like, that guy's going to be dead soon.

Wow.

Whatever topic we were talking about, it seemingly had to be negative just because of the vibe of

the video.

Your appearance indicated we couldn't be positive about a topic.

The appearance really kind of was like more important than that whole Christian thing.

You know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

Okay, look, it's been a bad week.

It's been a bad week for a lot of people who are Gen Xers

because pop culture of the 80s, Malcolm Jamal Warner, Theo Huxtable, drowned in his swimming pool in Costa Rica.

He was 50.

I think it was a swimming pool, though.

He was in the

ocean.

Wasn't he dragged out to sea?

Oh, Oh, yeah.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

He's terrible.

God, what a 50.

Terrible story.

He actually did a lot of other things, too.

He wasn't just.

Like, you know, a lot of these guys, they're child stars.

They never do anything.

Name 10 things.

10?

Yeah, and I have to go to his.

He's done a lot of other things.

He has done other things.

Name 10.

No, I'm sure he did.

Name one.

Detroiters, which is a great show that he was on.

I mean, it was a huge role in it, but he's really funny in that show.

There's a bunch of different stuff he did, but he actually built a pretty decent career and kept it going, which is not easy to do.

Oh, it's not.

No, a child star?

Yeah.

Almost impossible.

And to stay normal.

Yeah.

And such a weird legacy, too, because the show, I don't know if you've noticed this or maybe were aware, but the guy

whose name is on the title of the show turned out to be a rapist.

So

it did pose a problem for me when I was raising my kids on the Cosby show.

And,

you know, then he went to trial, and we were only a quarter of a way into the, what, 10-year run.

Yeah.

And Tanya and I were like, should we stop watching this?

And I'm like, nah.

Nah, just go for it.

It's like Santa.

They'll find out in the end.

Yeah.

Wait a minute.

Santa's a rapist?

No.

No, it's a different story.

It's a much darker story.

They keep releasing these, like, there's these like IP that winds up going into public domain.

Like they're doing these horror movies of like Winnie the Pooh and Popeye.

Right.

The Santa one, don't look too

deeply.

It actually is a really dark story, but we're not going to go there.

Anyway,

but the because I keep wanting to,

for some reason, it keeps popping into my head to show

my kids the Cosby

stand-up special.

I think it was called Fatherhood.

Do you remember this?

It was one of his most famous ones.

I watched it.

I mean, it had to be a thousand times when I was a kid.

I think it was called Fatherhood.

And...

Did you, did you have your kids watch The Cosby Show?

No.

Really?

Because of that?

I mean,

it was so good.

Yes, he turns out to be a rapist, but

it was so good.

The values in it were so good.

Yeah.

I didn't.

I didn't.

I think it was.

Gosh, what the heck was it?

Anyway, I mean, he also had amazing, and it was like somewhat family-friendly friendly that I remember.

I feel like I need to go back and watch it because you never know from those days.

Plus, it was, you know, a guy who was accused of rape later on.

So, you want to make sure you're not seeing any coded messages as well.

Uh, but like, I don't know.

I have stayed away from it just because I'm like, I don't know that I necessarily want to.

There's nothing like it, though.

There's really nothing.

Name the shows that were that solid

for

kids of all color

families.

name the show.

Well, I don't know.

It makes me feel almost like, hey, you know, let me show you this wonderful sermon given by a pastor who later was involved in a scandal, right?

Like I.

But he wasn't later.

It was happening during the filming of that show.

So it's much worse than what I'm saying.

I'm just saying it's not later.

In fact, it was happening for like two decades before he even did the show.

He was doing this stuff back in the 60s.

So there is, you know.

That's much worse.

I feel like there has to be a lot of people.

You don't want to teach your kids you can be a really horrible human being rapist, but if nobody finds out, you could also make it in America.

You don't want to teach your kids that lesson?

Because I do feel like there is a thing that

develops.

This happens, I think, a lot with people, unfortunately, with faith, where like if they go to a church and then that pastor winds up being a dirtbag, which does happen,

they wind up being shaken out of their faith, which, by the way, shouldn't occur.

No, because you're putting your faith in man.

That's the thing I like.

This is how I get around it in my head.

Is

I'm not going to put my faith in man.

I'm not going to put my faith in a preacher.

If the preacher is saying things and he's doing something,

I really don't like that.

I don't like that.

But as long as he's gone, you know, okay, we caught him.

He's gone.

Great.

I'm fine.

I'm fine.

I didn't believe in this church or this faith because of man.

I believe in it because it was a place to learn truth and people are all flawed.

Same thing with the Cosby show.

What he was teaching there was truth about families.

He wasn't living it, but I'm not watching it.

I'm not watching it because he was truth.

Yeah, right.

And that's, by the way, the same way you should think about your church.

Yes, it's really important to think about it that way.

Otherwise, you'll leave every church you're ever in.

Well, yeah.

Well, yeah.

It's not a change.

You'll find something that somebody is doing that you'll be like, I can't believe that.

Yeah.

It sets up for an impossible standard.

It sets up a godly standard on man.

Yeah.

An unfair standard for man.

Unfair.

They cannot live up to.

And also lets yourself justify all sorts of things.

Oh, gosh, well, I mean, obviously I've been let down by this church, so therefore, hookers and blow.

Like, that's it.

That's not the Hunter Biden.

No, that's not the way to look at it.

No, it's not the way to look at it.

That's what happens if you stay in a church where he's doing hookers and blow and everybody's like, I don't care.

Give me another sermon.

Right.

You know,

then that might lead

to trouble.

By the way, Bill Cosby himself was the one I was thinking of, not fatherhood, himself,

which was a great special.

And I remember being so entertaining.

It was about dads and kids, and I loved it.

And I'm like,

hysterical.

Yeah, I mean,

it's probably hysterical.

He shouldn't.

I mean, the work is the work, right?

Yeah.

I mean, mean, lots of actors in movies did terrible things later on.

But, I mean, it's something about like that relationship you have with a stand-up in a different, obviously different than a pastor, but like it is a sort of, you know, there's an intimate relationship you have with a one-on-one relationship.

I mean, they say the same thing about radio hosts.

And I want to bring up intimacy with your favorite radio host that might be overweight if we show that picture again for 2023 quickly of Glenn in 2023.

I don't think we need to show it again.

Remember who you work for, you in the control room.

Remember who signs your checks.

Crap.

Oh, yes.

They think I signed their checks.

Oh, I'll find out who put that up.

I will.

Also,

you know, I mentioned that Theo Huxtable died.

Also, Ozzy Osborne passed away this week.

And yesterday, Hulk Hogan.

That's rough.

And both Hulk Hogan, particularly Hulk, I mean, Cosby had a way of giving others drugs.

Hulk and Ozzie had their own relationships with drugs.

And

damaging ones.

I mean, honestly, I've been noticing that if you do drugs, you become successful in America.

That's what you got out of this conversation.

I'm beginning to think so with just these three.

Yes, maybe.

No,

I would argue it maybe destroyed all of their lives.

Not

I'm talking about Bill Cosby, not Malcolm Jamal Warner, who's the third person here.

But yeah, no, I think drugs, drugs, a negative,

a negative influence on many people's lives, Glenn.

You don't breaking norms.

You think drugs affected Ozzy Osborne in any way?

Yeah, you know, yeah, I noticed a slight, you know,

I'm a pretty quick study of the human character and notice a little bit of an influence on Ozzy over his life and maybe how

it turned out.

A lot of

interesting moments in that life.

And Hulk Hogan as well.

Like, I mean, you know, even if you just look at like this, the steroid type of stuff that affected those guys, the fact that you make it to your 70s after living that life is actually impressive.

You know what?

I think it is.

I mean, what was Theo Huxtable doing?

Exercising.

He was swimming.

He lived a clean life that we know of.

He was swimming.

Guys at 54, these guys?

And they get made to 74.

And they're going to get poison into their body and they make it into their 70s.

It does feel a little bit unfair, doesn't it?

I mean, come on.

I love Hulk.

You know, I wasn't a big fan of Ozzy's music.

I was never a big fan, but still, there's something charming about him.

And can I bring up one-third?

The TV show, it was strangely charming.

Can I bring up one extra thing that is a personal jihad of mine?

You know, we have these things where you just, they stick in your craw over a long period of time.

We've done a lot of good work in America here.

of pushing back against cancel culture recently.

A lot of people who were wrongly canceled and then were kind of like, you know, I don't know, freed from that.

We've kind of come back and said, no, that person shouldn't have been canceled.

We did a lot of that.

Sharon Osborne is one we need to revisit.

She was just kind of blown out of her entire career in life for no reason.

What did she do?

I don't even remember.

That was we were so busy canceling people.

That check was canceled.

And I'm like, wait a minute, what?

She was on like a view type of show.

You know, remember it was called kind of

something.

And then she said something that wasn't racist and she was accused of being racist.

And then there was,

and then she was kind of tossed off the show.

If I remember the story right, later on, a behind-the-scenes video and audio of her having a conversation with the person who eventually called her racist, one of her co-hosts came out where she was saying to Sharon Osborne, yeah, I know, I know you're not racist.

I mean, you know, we, you know, just I had to say those things.

You know, this, I'm expected to say say those things.

I had to imagine.

I was just imagining saying, having, having the balls to say that out loud.

Yeah.

And was caught on

a microphone.

And then she still got it, kind of got canceled and just kind of left to the sidelines.

It's total BS.

And like, let's put her, let's, after she borns here.

Let's put her on the show.

Give her 24 hours and get her on the show.

She'll be fine by Monday.

Get her on show Monday, will you?

I just felt like that was one thing.

We never correctly righted that wrong.

Yeah, we should look at all those people that were canceled.

Yeah.

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