WSJ's New Trump-Epstein 'Evidence' DESTROYED in Record Time | Guests: Paul Sperry & Salena Zito | 7/18/25

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Glenn examines multiple positive news stories, including the cancellation of Stephen Colbert's show and a CNN poll that shows Trump's approval ratings are increasing despite the fallout from the Epstein files. New reports are coming out that the Wall Street Journal's "smoking gun" reporting that Trump wrote Epstein a birthday letter is tied to the man whom Hillary Clinton paid to produce the Steele dossier. Senior reporter for RealClearInvestigations Paul Sperry joins to discuss the new information revealed by the recently declassified documents surrounding the Russia collusion conspiracy.Β New York Post columnist Salena Zito joins to discuss whether the press was targeted in Butler, Pennsylvania. Glenn and Jason discuss President Trump's push to release the grand jury transcripts from the Epstein trial. Will the courts allow this release? Glenn discusses the possibility that President Trump knew what he was doing when he was telling his base to stop talking about Epstein. Glenn and Jason discuss the death of a paranormal investigator who was found dead in his hotel room after touring with the infamous possessed doll Annabelle. Jason tells Glenn the terrifying story of buying raw milk for his wife.
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Hello, America.

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There is so much going on and so much good news that is happening.

First of all, we have the guy who can tell us everything about this secret meeting that happened with the Trump administration officials.

An urgent meeting.

It's not really secret.

It was private, but not secret.

It was an urgent meeting that happened on Sunday.

with new information on Russia Gate,

which it looks like they are going to be using to build a criminal conspiracy case against Obama, Biden, the administration of Obama and Biden, Hillary Clinton, and all of the political appointees that have weaponized the federal government.

It is,

it's about, we're about to open the floodgates.

You'll get all of that information in about a half hour.

Also, I just want to go through some of the stuff.

You know, from yesterday we find out,

yesterday we find out that NPR and PBS gone,

defunded, $9 billion cut in Doge cuts.

So we saved $9 billion.

It's a nice start.

Then we have the rescission.

We have the secret meeting.

We have Coke now with coming out with sugar, real sugar.

I don't know if I believe that, but I mean, it's another one the president, I guess, has been working on.

And Rubio

telling our outpost now

that that

stay out of foreign elections.

We're not getting involved in any foreign elections.

What's happening?

All of a sudden, like our country is

like making sense.

You know what I mean?

Oh, and there's one more thing.

Looks like Trump is now saying to the courts he wants the courts to release all of the information they have.

on

Epstein.

Oh, and another thing.

The Wall Street Journal has finally jumped the the shark.

What a ridiculous letter that they published.

And Trump sues them.

And

I hope he sues

the Wall Street Journal and Murdoch and gets at least the yachts and what, the half of Australia that Murdoch must own right now.

Because what happened to Donald Trump yesterday with the Wall Street Journal is an abomination.

Oh, and the Genius Act.

Oh,

and good news

with Stephen Colbert.

And I'm going to start there in 60 seconds.

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Stu returns from vacation Monday.

Jason, thank you for filling in this week.

You and Pat.

Welcome.

How are you?

I am great.

I'm even greater,

if that's correct.

After I saw a ex-post from a real clear politics reporter about,

I know you're going to get to the story later about this Wall Street Journal thing, but oh my gosh, I did not believe your predictions from the Wednesday night special TV show would be coming alive already.

You know,

I talked about this a little bit yesterday.

I don't know if I said it on the air or not.

Maybe I don't know.

But I was talking about how, you know, know yesterday you were like because you really have a problem with

the

with the Epstein thing and the way it's been handled and I think on Wednesday night you were the biggest pushback on me because I walked in and maybe it was because you had ownership and all the hard work you put in writing a show and then I walk in in the last minute and go yeah I'm not going to use any of that I have a theory.

And I walked you through this theory on Wednesday and you were like, Really?

Uh, and I thought you were a million miles away from believing it, and you're right, the Wall Street Journal practically proves that's probably what was happening.

How many times have you done this to me, Glenn?

I was like, no,

but magic usually ends up happening later, so it's it's all good.

I know it's it's it's really incredible.

Uh, all right, let me give you what I think is some of the best news,

at least the most satisfying for me.

Please play cut six.

Here's Stephen Colbert.

Before we start the show, I want to let you know something that I found out just last night.

Next year will be our last season.

The network will be ending the late show in May.

And...

No,

please no, he's going to have dancing vaccines.

Yeah, I share your feelings.

It's not just the end of our show, but it's the end of the late show on CBS.

I'm not being replaced.

This is all just going away.

Oh.

Oh,

and

I'm sad.

Tragic.

I'm very, very sad.

It's tragic.

And who would have seen it coming, you know, besides anybody who's ever watched, you know, a funny,

you know, show late at night?

Who would have seen this coming?

That, you know, after people start to wake up, you know, and they start to realize this whole forcing people to believe what you believe just isn't funny or really acceptable in society.

It kind of builds a bad civilization.

Who would have seen this coming?

That, you know, those shows that were pushing it the hardest are no longer popular and are going to be canceled.

Now, he went on to say, well, this is just budgetary.

Yeah, you know why?

Because you can't make any money.

Because why?

Nobody wants to buy your stupid show.

Why?

Because nobody's watching your stupid show anymore.

Why?

Because you suck.

Why?

Because you made it all about politics.

I mean, it's really not that hard to figure out, Stephen.

But it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Bye-bye.

Okay, so let's see.

What else?

Oh, here's one from CNN that I think you'll enjoy.

Here are the CNN

reporters

revealing the new

polling on Donald Trump.

Here it is.

I mean, look, I think this one surprised me a bit because of all of these complaints online going after Trump and the Epstein files.

You might think his approval ratings were going down, Republicans.

If anything, they're going up.

Republicans who approve of Trump, look at our CNN poll.

The prior one, 86%.

The one out this week, 88% were Republicans.

How about Quinnipiak?

The prior poll, 87% approval of Republicans.

This week out, 90% with Republicans.

If anything, Donald Trump's approval rating has gone up since this whole Epstein saga started.

He is at the apex or close there to in terms of his popularity with Republican voters, Epstein files, complaints or not.

You know, I think Charlie Kirk said it best this week when he said, we're upset about the Epstein files because we love the president.

We like the president.

And we don't want to see the president, you know, duped by the deep state.

And what he's been saying this week is he doesn't want to see his supporters duped by the deep state.

And as it turns out,

he may be the right one on this.

But we'll see.

We'll see, as we'll follow it and we'll give you all the information coming up in just a little while.

We have so much to cover today.

Here's some more good news.

Rubio has told now the U.S.

outposts a directive that U.S.

consulates and embassies can still congratulate the winner of a foreign election, but should not criticize an election without approval from a senior official.

Marco Rubio directed overseas outposts to refrain from weighing in on foreign elections unless there's a clear and compelling U.S.

interest in doing so.

The order is intended to bring the department more in line with the White House and Trump administration's stance on foreign elections.

Now,

this one seems so incredibly easy.

You know, don't you hate it when another government comes into our country and they're like, you know what?

Let me do it this way.

So they were thinking that maybe what you should do is not elect Donald Trump.

Are you going to listen to that guy?

Even if you hate Donald Trump, you're like, hey, mind your own business, right?

But not America.

No, no, apparently, our State Department not only likes to overthrow governments that they don't like,

but they'll be very vocal on it, too.

You know, you Swedish people are just too stupid to elect somebody smart like we do.

Oh, that's that's good.

You know what, Jason, I don't know about you.

I cannot believe how much I'm impressed with Marco Rubio.

Oh, yeah, unquestionably.

And what was was weird is at the beginning, he was kind of a lot of people were kind of standoffish and they're like, oh, really, Rubio?

But now I feel like, what does he have, Glenn?

Like maybe 18,000 jobs right now?

And he's doing perfectly with all of them?

It's insane.

All of them do.

All of them do.

My podcast today is with the guy who Trump had originally nominated for the head of NASA.

He's this entrepreneur that, you know, convinced his folks to just let him drop out of high school, had to get his GED, but

let him do his own thing because he was horrible at high school.

His parents did.

He starts a business.

He turns it into a billion-dollar business.

His dad goes to work for him.

I mean, it's just this incredible story.

Then.

As a kindergartner, and this made me feel really old because he was like, you know, when I was in kindergarten, I remember reading about The Challenger.

I'm like,

oh, in your

kindergarten,

you read about the Challenger.

I don't feel too old now.

But he said, I remember reading about that, and I was just in love with the space program, and I always wanted to be an astronaut.

So I trained myself.

I took, you know, I went and I took my money and I.

I started buying up airplanes, you know, fighter planes, planes, and then I developed the largest independent air force in the world.

And then I contracted with

Top Gun, and we were the fighters, all my pilots with my planes, we were the ones that would train against

the Top Gun pilots.

We were the enemies that they would go out and dogfight with.

Yeah, well,

I got into radio when I was about your age.

This guy is just amazing.

But he was talking about, you know, how,

you know, now the labor secretary is the interim NASA head as well.

They all have 400 jobs and they're all doing them well.

What is happening?

Yeah.

What is happening?

And this thing with Rubio, like, and the State Department,

I don't know if you realize, I know this audience realizes this, but how big of a deal this is and how much work they have to do.

But I mean, you've shown multiple times about how in a bunch of European countries, how the State Department not only is supporting another party or another president actively against the will of the people that voted there,

but they're also like funding like George Soros groups to hit the streets and protest and give this illusion that there's like a big uprising.

It is that is embedded in

those people.

Yeah.

Right.

It's it's it's it's the state department that goes in and trains the revolutionaries on the streets to help them overthrow the government the State Department doesn't like in some foreign country.

It's insane.

And he's changing that culture.

And so is Donald Trump.

Yesterday, it finally went through.

It's now sitting on the desk for the president to sign.

He has cut $8 billion from the U.S.

Agency for International Development, that's USAID, just because it says aid in the name.

It's not an aid program.

They're not starving children by cutting this.

They're stopping the overthrow of foreign governments.

It was a tool used by the State Department and the CIA.

This is Donald, I mean Donald Trump, John F.

Kennedy started USAID not as an extension of the Peace Corps and, you know, some sort of a food program.

He did it because the agency he shut down was

a shell

and a ghost operation for the CIA.

And when he found that out and found out what they were doing, he was like, well, I'm shutting this down and I'm starting a new program and we're just going to help nations develop.

And the CIA was like, okay.

And they just went into USAID and did the same thing.

Finally, that has been cut, cut,

and

a billion dollars no longer going to the corporation for public broadcasting.

And they're really, really sad.

They're very sad.

They don't know what happened to them.

They're like, wait, I thought everybody loved us.

No, no,

no.

Here's another good piece of good news.

Trump is now saying it looks like he's going to designate organizers and financial backers of the violent ICE protest

as terrorists.

So if you are backing the violent ICE protests, you're going to go on the list for the government as a terrorist organization.

Oh, boy, that would be

bad for your, you know, your

date nights.

Sorry, I don't know if we can go out to eat tonight.

I've just been designated a foreign terrorist.

I mean, that's really bad.

So he's designating organizations as a terrorist group.

If you provide material support, he will freeze your assets, restrict travel for members and supporters.

and it will allow for enhanced law enforcement surveillance, I don't like that, investigations, and federal resource deployment while signaling security threat domestically and internationally.

Now, this is, of course, going to be, you know, they're going to start saying, oh, yeah, they're going to starve children, or whatever their excuse is this time.

These are people, many of them, working with foreign governments who are working with our own governments, with the people that used to be in USAID, to overthrow our nation.

If you are paying and organizing these protests that are designed to be violent, not all protests, those that are designed to be violent,

I'm sorry,

you're a terrorist because what you're doing fits the only definition, the only word that fits by definition is the word terrorist.

You are trying to change the country's policies by instilling fear.

So

congratulations on yet another great move by the President of the United States.

Now, the House sent the Genius Act to Trump and passed two other crypto bills.

We'll get into that.

We're also going to get into some really good stuff in about 10 minutes with the guy that actually wrote the article that Jason was just talking about, Paul Sperry.

He's with Real Clear Investigations.

He's a senior reporter there.

And it looks like the Trump team is now going to release some documents that have been classified, which will expose the Obama-era Russia hoax conspiracy.

That's, you know, that it doesn't matter, right?

You can't do that because of statute of limitations.

No, no, no, this changes everything.

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So, about an hour and a half ago, two hours ago, Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics, she is their national political correspondent.

She tweeted something about, you know, that Wall Street Journal ridiculous letter that was posted.

I mean, just

so bad on Epstein.

She just posted that the guy who was the reporter that did that story, his only job of, you know, journalism before that was he worked for Maine Justice,

which is Glenn Simpson's wife's publication.

Who's Glenn Simpson?

Glenn Simpson is the founder of Fusion GPS.

Who's Fusion GPS?

The firm that Hillary Clinton paid to come up with and produce the steel dossier.

Come on.

I mean, this is just,

it's incredible.

It is absolutely.

On Monday, we were all going, Donald Trump, what are you doing?

Why are you saying this?

By Wednesday, I'm like, wait a minute, I think he might have some.

Today, it's just like all falling into place.

You're like, oh my gosh, this is such a setup.

Oh, it's incredible.

Now, Real Clear Politics having a really kind of a banner day, especially today, Real Clear Investigations.

The senior reporter there, Paul Sperry, is the guy who really has the story on what the Trump team is doing on this

giant conspiracy case that they are building.

Paul, welcome to the program.

Glad to be with you.

Thank you.

So on, what was it, Sunday, they had an urgent meeting, the Trump officials.

And what were they meeting about?

Tell me the story.

So what we know is they have declassified a new batch of documents related to the Russiagate hoax, and they're planning to release them soon.

And I've got that confirmed now from the highest levels of the ODNI.

And they're planning to brief reporters and publish the documents in a report prepared by DNI Gabbard's office, which has declassification authority across the IC, the intelligence community.

And this would be just the first wave of declassification.

It's not a dump of all the documents at once.

And

all this is being coordinated with the White House and the Department of Justice.

And this is a 200-page congressional audit.

And

what is it saying?

That's part of it.

That's part of it.

There's more?

Yes, they're not going to release the whole thing, as I understand.

They're going to take some pieces from it that I was told the documents

not only definitively,

definitely back up the internal CIA review of the ICA and possible perjury by Brennan and Comey,

but there's way more from that, including emails

showing links between the crossfire hurricane and the rigged ICA operation.

This is the intelligence community assessment that Obama ordered, which would strengthen the predication for a conspiracy-to-Frank Trump case.

Jeez.

So, I mean, this is like...

This is like an unbelievable smoking gun if it is as advertised, right?

I mean, could we have asked for a bigger smoking gun than this?

Well, we don't know exactly what it is.

And of course, we've been

over-promised in this never-ending zombie Brushagate scandal and

underdelivered on the promises so many times, like, you know, it's almost like losing the football at this point.

But,

you know,

the

investigation, the conspiracy investigation is real.

I mean, this is happening, and we understand there is a case file number and an EC officially opening the investigation.

This is an electronic communication,

and it's been assigned to a field office.

So, and they're focusing on a number of potential co-conspirators, and we'll be publishing a list of them at Real Clear Investigation.

So, stay tuned for that.

And what they're dealing with with this is

what's that?

Hang on just a sec.

We do know that Comey and Brennan are part of that list, don't we?

Absolutely.

They've actually

formally been named already in a criminal referral

for conspiracy to commit perjury.

And what they're doing with...

you know, trying to do this as a conspiracy case rather than individual charges, charges.

They're trying to deal with the statute of limitations, which is five years in total cases, most federal cases.

So they have to tie it all back together as a broad conspiracy to get around the time limits.

And that's why they're reaching as far back as the Clinton email investigation to also show the double standard of her favorable treatment by Comey

versus Trump's aggressive treatment.

And this is also by Obama and Biden investigators and prosecutors, you know, going forward all the way up to the Mar-a-Lago

raid.

So, you know, according to their case theory, you know, they all conspired to protect Hillary and to frame and to stop Trump.

To protect Hillary from what?

Just the the from

investigation so she could be president.

From a convict from, you know, they exonerated her.

The servers.

And they never investigated.

And that's another thing that they're looking at

in these documents is the declassification of these highly classified annex, first of all, in the Inspector General report

that

revealed a number of foreign actors breaching Hillary's emails in her unsecured email server.

And then

Comey and Peter Strzok, who is the head of counterintelligence, who was supposed to investigate things like that, he didn't bother and just completely neglected to investigate that huge breach.

And then you have the classified appendix in the Durham report, which talks about a Clinton intelligence

Clinton plan intelligence that was intercepted, and Brennan got a hold of it.

And, you know, basically

laying out a Clinton plot to frame Trump.

And this was in July 2016.

And Comey and

Strzok didn't investigate that either.

So it's a double standard, disparate treatment, and that's part of a conspiracy case that they're building.

Okay, so

let's just say that we're not Lucy, and we haven't been down this road a million times because I know the football can be pulled away from us at any moment and probably will.

But let's just look at this moment and say, okay,

these things are possibly going to be produced and are real.

What does this mean for the people involved, do you think?

I mean, how bad is this going to get?

And how deep will they go?

Well, I mean, there are

a lot of co-conspirators,

as long as your arm, that would be named at once.

But

it definitely is ambitious, but it's not pie in the sky because the data points are all there for a conspiracy.

They just have to find a grand jury to hear all the evidence with an open mind.

And that won't be in D.C.

You know that.

Right, that won't be in D.C.

Yeah, 90% data that automatically biased against Trump.

But they could move it to Florida, right?

Sure, because as an ongoing conspiracy, they're going all the way through to Jack Smith and the whole Mar-a-Lago business, and on and on it goes with

leaks and more sabotage.

But, you know, this influence operation

has done lasting damage.

You know, it's caused lasting damage to Trump and his presidency, his legacy.

Polls show that the vast majority of Democrats still believe, still, to this day, believe that Trump is a Russian agent, despite the complete debunking of Hillary's dirty dossier and the PK and all that made-up garbage.

So in the end, Paul, even if these people go to jail, if that's not corrected,

and I don't know how you would correct that in people's minds, if that's not corrected, this only makes the left even more angry and probably more violent because now they're locking up everybody who is just against Donald Trump.

How do we solve this?

What does this mean in the end if we can't change that?

Well, there has to be some accountability, and it may not

lead to convictions, even indictments.

But if it gets out and if these documents get out into a court of law, if they get out into

a courtroom, the media will finally be pressured, at least, I'm not saying forced to cover it, which they've buried this because they're so invested in the whole

Russia

business they won Pulitzer for.

So

they're running block and tackle against any of this stuff.

But if you finally get declassified documents and put out there in the public domain, put out there in the courtroom.

Smoking guns, as you were saying, they have to cover that.

I think right now

they want to get past this Jeffrey Epstein news cycle so the media doesn't have an excuse not to cover it before they release this stuff, or at least let it die down a little bit.

A couple of questions.

Why wouldn't we release it?

Why wouldn't they release it?

You said if they release it.

Why wouldn't they?

Other than no, it's going to be released.

It's just

they're preoccupied right now with

the Epstein business.

So

do you think that's what is leading to the president being so angry?

He's like, I've got something.

Would you please shut up so we can release this?

Possibly, yeah, because I know that they briefed the White House on this on Tuesday, and I can't imagine that Chief of Staff didn't, in turn, brief the president.

Wow.

And the last thing, the meeting did not have Pam Bondi or Tulsi Gabbard in it.

Do you know why?

The principals were not in the meeting.

It was high-level staff for both the DOJ and ODNI.

Why?

Is that normal?

I don't know.

Oh, yeah,

that's normal for stuff like this.

They don't have to be there.

You know, then

they're briefed about it.

Okay.

Paul, great investigation.

Thank you.

Thank you for bringing us up to the speed.

This is really remarkable if it happens.

This is game-changing.

It absolutely could.

It's definitely the dam is starting to break on all this.

There's no doubt.

Paul, thank you very much.

I got to tell you, Jason.

Wow.

I mean, that's what we've been hoping for, right?

That's what we've been waiting for.

This restores the trust we've been saying we needed to see from Epstein.

This could be the one that, I mean, you could go all the way back to Hillary Clinton.

I can't imagine they're going to lock her up.

They should, but I can't imagine they're going to lock her up.

But I mean, to be able to have those documents out and show this conspiracy.

Again, I don't know if it's going to change the left's point of view because they're just insane at this point, but

get it into a courtroom,

that's going to be pretty intense.

Yeah, Glenn, I mean, I'm just biting my fist through that entire thing because I just want to scream out.

This is amazing.

I, you got to give it to Paul.

He is the true personification of a journalist and investigator.

So he was, but I was, while he's narrating this or talking about it, I'm like, oh my gosh,

they're killing the deep state.

Everything.

Thank you for saying this.

Thank you for saying this because I'm talking to Paul.

I don't know Paul and I'm talking to him.

And he's like, well, yeah, I mean, you know, it could be a very big deal.

And you're like, wait, oh, my gosh.

I just thought it was bigger than that.

You're exactly right.

He's a journalist.

That's a journalist for you.

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Let me just say this.

I don't know if this is the first time that it's been said to you on a national broadcast, but I want to introduce you to Selena Zito, a number one New York Times best-selling author.

Hello, Selena.

No, it is the first time, and you're going to make me cry.

I was with the first time I, the first time I was a number one New York Times best-selling author, when it, you know, when it really meant something, when the New York Times wasn't just like, ah,

I was with Vince Flynn, and

he said, congratulations, and I said, thank you.

And he said, I want you to know how hard it is for me to say that because I worked my whole life writing to get there.

And you,

you just wrote a story and now you're number one.

I feel for you because you worked your whole life in writing and studying how to write and listening to people.

And I'm so proud of you and happy for you, Selena.

Well, I have to take this moment to first thank you, Glenn, for using your platform to introduce your listeners to the book and to the importance of the book, not just about what happened that day, not just about me being a witness to history, but also why things are happening the way they are.

That's what the book Butler does, and it really gives a profound

look at what is happening in the country.

And I think

it concludes at the end with a chapter called The Reckoning, and it's about my profession.

And

it really tells you everything that you need to understand about what is happening with my profession.

And you can see it with the whole Epstein thing.

And also the.

Okay, so I want to get, hang on, Mick.

Yeah.

I want to get into the Epstein thing.

I've got so much to talk to you about to get perspective on, but I have to start here.

Could we please play the CBS

reporter who now has had to have therapy?

Listen.

For those of us there, it was such a horror because you saw

an emerging America.

And it wasn't the shooting, Chuck.

This was, I got diagnosed with PTSD within 48 hours.

I put on trauma leaf.

Not because I think of the shooting, but because

you saw it in the eyes, the reaction of the people.

They were coming for us.

If he didn't jump up with his fist, they were going to come kill us.

I know.

I know.

Wow.

No.

Selena,

I did not get that appearance from anybody, but he was there.

He saw it.

Wait a minute.

You were there.

What did you see?

Okay.

Well, I didn't see that.

You know,

first of all, when you were a journalist,

your last reaction should be, this was about me.

Right?

Because you're there

to tell the story of what happened.

You're not there to talk about your feelings.

And it's just so insulting for him to frame it that way

because

he was talking about, you know, people turned around and were yelling at the camera.

He thought they were yelling at him.

No, they were saying, we also are going to fight.

This is about standing up for America.

And I know that

because it's in the book, Butler.

Well, he didn't read it.

He was too busy with therapy.

So wait.

So you're saying that when they looked at the cameras, they weren't looking at

the American people sending a message through the camera?

Yeah,

and I know this because

after the shooting, it's about two hours, it's an hour later.

Everyone is in the parking lot.

Remember, there's 50,000 people there.

There's at least 15 to 20,000 cars, and people can't move.

Now, if they were angry and wanted to hurt him, they would have not been peaceful, sharing food, sharing water, hugging, singing.

It was a very aspirational moment.

And one guy was talking to me, and he said, yeah,

we looked at the camera and said, we will fight.

And like, the one guy said, yeah, I gave the camera a finger.

And he goes, we're going to tell the whole world that America

is not backing down and you can't take us out.

Now, if you took the moment to, if he would have taken the moment to think about it, maybe you know, maybe he couldn't do it in that moment, but be more reflective afterwards and understood what was happening in the moment, he wouldn't be talking about himself and his feelings.

But wait, is this did you is this what your psychiatrist told you after the shooting?

Yeah,

yeah, there I didn't have a psychiatrist.

Wait, but wait a minute.

Yeah, you were just a couple of feet away from the president who was bleeding.

You could see that.

You had a Secret Service agent on your back.

You were in the line of fire.

And what do you mean you didn't?

You didn't go to a psychiatrist after?

I don't know.

I mean, you know,

have a job to do as journalists.

And, you know, even though I cover politics and shooting isn't typically part of it,

as you come up as a journalist, you know, you cover cops,

you cover things that happen all over a city or a region.

You learn to completely detach and do your job.

That's what you do as a journalist.

That's your job.

That's your function.

You're supposed to deliver the news as it happens.

And your feelings are not supposed to be part of it.

Okay.

Let me give you something different.

This was just about two hours ago posted on X by Susan Crabtree.

I don't know if you know her.

She's the national political correspondent for Real Clear Politics.

Okay.

She just announced on X that, you know, the Wall Street Journal did that report yesterday.

where they showed this letter and this drawing that Donald Trump

sent to Epstein.

What, you don't, you didn't believe that?

It was in the Wall Street Journal.

You didn't believe that, Selena?

Not for a second.

That's not his signature.

Everybody knows his signature, and he wouldn't draw that sloppy.

He is very perfect about everything that he does.

He would not draw that picture.

All right.

Okay.

So I think everybody, even Elon Musk is like, okay, come on.

All right.

Yeah.

Everybody knew that immediately, except for the Wall Street Journal and the reporter that apparently got that inside card or letter that he was sending to Jeffrey Epstein.

Now, here's what Susan Crabtree just reported about two hours ago.

The Wall Street Journal reporter that did that story yesterday

main worked for Maine Justice, which is Glenn Simpson's wife's publication.

For those who don't know who Glenn Simpson is, he's the founder of Fusion GPS.

If you don't know who Fusion GPS is, they're the ones that were paid by Hillary Clinton for the Epstein file.

I mean,

it's

how?

What?

So, how does an editor allow something to go past their desk like that?

You have to press and ask questions of the reporter.

You have to make sure that everything they have said, especially something that could possibly be as salacious as this

appeared to be.

You have to make sure that

everything is unearthed.

That's your responsibility as an editor, that this got on to a page in a storied news organization is just beyond the pale to me.

My editor would have throat punched me if I would have tried to pull something off like that.

I love that.

Sorry, I didn't.

That's all right.

No, no, no.

It's so funny.

I was just talking to Donald Trump's wallet yesterday, and I'm like, have you gained weight?

And he's like, yeah, a little bit from from CBS, but I'm about to put on pounds now with the Wall Street Journal.

I mean,

this is ripe for lawsuits and defamation, is it not?

Yeah, it is.

And here's the thing, Glenn, and I don't think people are talking about this enough.

Take a look at all of the wins that the president has had,

not just since he was sworn in, but just in the space of the last six weeks.

It's been unprecedented in history.

So how do you stop those wins if you don't like what he's doing?

I mean, that's the question.

And I think the Wall Street Journal provided the answer.

Well, I mean,

I hate to ask Jason to explain,

you know, how this has worked, but Jason, could you explain to Selena what what's happened here today and yesterday?

all right are you talking about that your prediction is that is that where we're going to now I don't know I don't I I don't I don't know whatever it is you want

Selena whatever it is you have so Selena what happened was I'm Glenn Beck's writer and chief researcher and and we were gonna do this amazing story on Wednesday and show where we were gonna just talk about a whole bunch of Epstein stuff but he throws it out at the last minute which Trust me has never happened to me before ever like Glenn's never done that to me um but yeah he he just just throws it out and he's like, you know, I got this theory that I think that, you know, one of the reasons Donald Trump is so pissed off and why he's naming Hillary Clinton and all those things in his posts is because maybe he's got inside information that they're about to start releasing information on that that ties him in some way to this.

Yeah, that is, that's not true.

That you, you know, that he knows that this is coming and we're not seeing it.

He knows it.

And

he's like, you guys cannot be this stupid.

Now, I said on Wednesday, I don't know if this is true, but this is the only thing that makes sense to me.

And look at what's happening, which also brings me to why they're ignoring the left.

You know,

the Democrats have just let the left take over and they're revolutionaries and there's blood in the streets, or at least it's coming in buckets, I believe, if the Democrats don't start stepping up.

And I said, I don't think they are.

This is a few weeks ago.

I don't think they are because they're afraid of their own supporters.

I'm not sure that's true.

After what we just saw with this letter in the Wall Street Journal and what is coming out of real clear investigations now about the

conspiracy investigation that's going on, I think they're more afraid of jail than they are blood in the streets.

I think they are desperate now to stop this any way they can because

they know it's over.

What do you think of that?

Well,

so

the key word that you just said, Glenn, is desperate.

And desperate people do desperate things.

And we see that just

when this story came out yesterday, I was driving home from D.C.

and thanking Jesus for getting out of there.

And

I thought,

this is so obvious.

And to your point, if you just sort of follow

everything that the president has said, everything that he has posted, and then all the sort of things like Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, and

then this Wall Street Journal, I mean,

it's so obvious.

Even a 12-year-old could put the puzzle pieces together that they were prepping to do this because they know a bigger problem is coming their way.

They know it.

They can feel it.

It's coming down their back.

It's amazing.

Selena, thank you so much for your perspective and congratulations on the number one New York Times bestseller, Selena Zito, the author of Butler, a must-read.

If you want to understand not just what happened on that day, but understand where we're headed, what's happening in our country, what the press is missing.

I mean, I swear to you,

I wish people had an open enough mind that people who disagree with me would just read this book because you would be able, if you had an open mind, you might be able to understand what people like me and others who are not revolutionaries, who don't want to round you up, who don't want any of the stuff that your side claims we want.

You would begin to understand us.

Really well, well written, well researched, and well done by Selena Zito.

Thanks, Selena.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, everybody.

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So, Jason, I'm not sure I understood what you were saying about what happened on Wednesday.

And really, and

you're going to run this in?

I mean, I just, I mean, I, you know, I, I, all I said to you was, no, trust me, Jason.

Trust me.

I mean, I know you've worked really hard on this, but I got to throw it away.

Just trust me on this.

I think this might be right.

And, and so then what happened after that?

I'm trying to

piece this.

You kind of called the whole dang thing.

Got it.

Okay.

That's all I saw.

Okay.

That's all I say.

That is the part I was.

Gosh.

I'm just trying to understand what you were trying to say.

And now, so you're saying you were right, Glenn.

I was wrong.

I got it.

I got it now, right?

Okay, good.

There was an amazing chalkboard planned.

You just threw it out with a better one of your own.

But, I mean, you know.

Well, because it was, because it was wrong.

Just because it was wrong.

I will say that in the years I've worked for you, that's usually when the scariest and most magical things happen when those moments do happen.

It still pisses me off in the moment, but

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I have,

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Yeah, that's really good, but I'm not using any of that.

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Now, there is another side to this Epstein thing, some more information that Donald Trump is, again, doing exactly what is the right thing.

I think he is pushing for the release.

The court has to make the decision, but he is pushing for the release of all the documents from the court cases

in the Epstein case, which is really a great move that helps people just understand what was in there, and it doesn't look like you're hiding anything.

It's up to the courts to do it, and I urge them and hope that they do,

just

out of, you know,

it's in the public's interest.

It's in the national interest to put this behind us.

But I think, Jason, you wanted to bring that, me to bring that up to show that,

you know, maybe,

maybe a slight possibility that I wasn't right on Wednesday.

I'm just still trying to get my script read.

That's setting.

That's pretty much where it's at.

No, I think, I think this is a very good move because I think this is what it's what we need.

It's what we want.

And it appears that, you know, the president wants this as well, it sounds like.

And just releasing these grand jury transcripts would be huge because we know there's a lot of stuff that we know that the

judges are keeping under lock and key.

And, you know, there might not be a handwritten list out there, but it kind of sounds like

there was an unspoken list.

There was definitely people that were involved.

I mean, Dershowitz was basically kind of saying the same thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's something else on this.

I think.

You know, what we heard today about the release of the documents that are going after the grand conspiracy, which I think is absolutely brilliant.

This is how you put the mob in jail.

And honestly,

that's what the deep state has become.

It's a mob.

They operate in the shadows.

They deny that there is anything to the dead bodies that are just showing up in the bottom of the river with cement shoes.

What?

I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm just a businessman.

That's all I'm doing.

That's exactly what is happening with Brennan.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I just work in Intel.

That's all I do.

And so to get the mob, you've had to be able to go past the statute of limitations if

you can tie conspiracies together.

This is a conspiracy

to

traffic drugs or whatever it is.

And you can tie all these things together because you're building a case.

It's not just this one person.

It's not just this one thing.

It's all of these, and they're all connected.

That's what breaks down the statute of limitations.

And they are going all the way back now to Hillary Clinton and her emails.

And I think why Donald Trump was so angry and we're now seeing it.

I mean, yesterday I said,

yesterday I said, I think I have to say Donald Trump may be right

on the tariffs because of the new information that is coming out.

And I am, I don't believe in tariffs.

I don't believe in that.

I just, I,

it doesn't make any sense to me.

But the information that is coming out, and it's still too early, we need more months to see it.

But so far, everything he is saying that tariffs will do is happening.

And now let's watch it.

That's why I said yesterday, I may have to apologize.

And I'm glad I didn't have to apologize because this is not a week that the president wants to hear from people like me.

Because

when he said, you know, I don't want you as my supporters, he wasn't talking about you being stupid.

He was talking about people like me being stupid.

And at first, I was greatly offended by that.

And then on Wednesday, when he started saying, you know,

this was written by Hillary Clinton and Comey and

Brennan, I started seeing it in a different way, which led me to, what was it again?

Wednesday.

Oh yeah, be right, right, Jason?

And now that these things are coming out, I'm really seeing this is why he was so upset because the word is that

the stuff that has been declassified, it's already been declassified, just hasn't been released because he didn't want it to be buried with all this Epstein stuff.

So that's why he's been like, can you guys shut up about this?

Because I'm going to do everything you're asking me to do.

I'm going to start investigating and

indicting people and arresting people.

And I've got it all tied together in one big package.

If you guys would just pipe down for a minute.

If this proves to actually come out and be what, you know, I don't want to be Charlie Brown with the...

you know, Lucy holding the football, but if it turns out that that's actually what's going on, I owe the president a huge apology.

And I still think it was rolled out horribly and everything else, but

no, I can't say that.

I was going to say I should have trusted him more.

No, no, we shouldn't.

We should always be skeptical of our government.

But I feel bad.

I feel bad, actually, if these things turn out to be because it looks like we're about to get everything we've been begging him for on justice

in a much bigger way than I thought was even possible, which I guess should be the,

which should be really the, you know, the, the, the slugline of

Donald Trump.

It shouldn't be make America great again.

It just be, it should be,

yeah,

more than you thought was even possible.

You know, Donald Trump, uh-huh, more than you thought possible.

Did you ever think that we would have

we would defund NPR and PBS?

Did you ever think that we were actually going to cut the Department of Education by what, 40%?

Some crazy number like that?

And it's actually happening now?

Did you ever, did you ever think, I mean, little things like, and I know he had nothing to do with this, but

that Coke would start putting sugar back into, you know, real cane sugar back into Coca-Cola instead of corn syrup?

I mean, I buy Mexican Coke and I hate it.

I mean, I love it, but I hate the fact that, you know, can you just make Coke ripe the way everybody wants it, you know, with real sugar in it, please?

All of these things that are happening that we never thought could happen are happening.

right now.

And then again, some things are not going everybody's way.

For instance, if you're at a Cold Play concert, may I suggest you don't go, if you're a CEO, don't go with the HR director and make out.

It might not work out well for you.

I don't know if you saw this.

The CEO of the tech company, astronomer, Andy Byron, was at the Cold Play concert.

And he's standing there with his co-worker and they're in a love embrace, just enjoying the concert.

And then all of a sudden, he comes up on the jumbotron, and they see themselves on the kiss cam.

And all of a sudden, he just like he melts.

He just like, look at what?

Look, it just goes down on the ground.

I would say he just drops to his knees, but that's probably a bad analogy in this one.

He just drops to the ground and just disappears, you know, like, oh, crap.

She stands there frozen, like, what is going on?

He's married.

He's married.

And,

you know, wife and children

at the Cold Play concert.

Not a good day for him.

I'm wondering

what are you supposed to waiting for him when he got home?

Jason?

Nothing good.

Let me tell you that.

Nothing good.

I can't imagine.

You must have known.

I was reading through some of the comments that

the internal text threads and stuff from the workers of

his company.

And it sounds like everyone

has seen this.

Yeah, they were like, it sounds like everyone pretty much knew what was going on, and they were like, just pretty much elated that he was finally getting outed for doing this.

Pretty, uh, pretty wild, especially with, especially with the HR director.

That HR director should not have a job as HR ever again.

You know, that's the person who's like,

no sexual harassment.

You are the one caught with a CEO, you know, in a love embrace.

Oh, that's good.

That's really, really.

That's going to look well on you.

She's going to walk in with a resume and they're going to just look at it and go, oh, you were the one with, yeah, we've already filled the position.

It's not good.

It's just not good.

Let's see.

Is there something?

Oh, yeah, I played this earlier, but

I don't think it hurts to play it again because it was such an enormous announcement.

Cut six.

Before we start the show, I want to let you know something that I found out just last night.

Next year will be our last season.

The network will be ending the late show in May.

And.

No.

No.

How can that be?

What?

Yeah, I see your feelings.

It's not just the end of our show, but it's the end of the late show on CBS.

I'm not being replaced.

Oh, this is all just going away.

Right.

Well, you got to be proud.

You got to be proud.

You know,

when a company fires you from a job you were hired to do that just had a whole bunch of legends that came out of it, you know,

and then they fire you, and then they're like,

it got so bad under him.

We're just going to, we can't, and there's no way to revive the format.

I mean, that's, again, good luck with that resume, Stephen Colbert.

You know, I can't wait for that to happen finally with Jimmy Kimmel.

When is that going to happen with Jimmy Kimmel?

Yeah.

These guys that just took

just took the joy out of every bit of laughter for so long.

Things are changing.

Glenn, when I was a kid, like junior high, high school, we all would watch Letterman and Leno.

They were pretty much the only two, but everyone would watch them all the time, including Saturday Night Live.

We would all watch it and everyone would talk about it the next day at school.

No one does that anymore because it sucks.

No one does.

And it's sad, especially with Saturday Night Live.

God, so sad.

No, there's, I mean, and Saturday Night Live is one of the last communal things we have.

You know what I mean?

It's one of the last communal.

It's on Saturday.

You watch it on Saturday and everybody talks about it on Monday or you watch the clips.

It's the last thing that we have where everybody's kind of watching it in real time or very close to real time and you can talk about it.

And it's just, it's horrendous what they have done.

And, you know,

this, again, is yet another sign of how the culture is changing, how we are winning.

These guys, you know, Stephen Colbert, they didn't just let him go because, you know, his ratings sucked.

It's not just the ratings.

He can't get a sponsor.

Nobody wants to sponsor that program anymore.

Ratings suck, and even the woke Pfizer people are like, you know what?

This is kind of going to turn ugly.

We should probably distance ourselves from Stephen Colbert.

It's pretty intense.

I just saw something, what was it, a movie I was flipping by,

and I saw a trailer for it.

It came out in 2020 and it was talking about the Me Too movement and

it just had references and kind of jokes about, hey, you can't say that and Me Too.

But it was seriously, I mean,

it was joking, but it was seriously saying.

You can't say those things anymore.

You can't do those things anymore.

And I thought, oh my gosh, this is going to age so poorly.

All of these things are going to

age so horribly in the next three years.

In the next three years, all of that stuff is going to look like ancient history.

And, you know, I thought I'd bring that up because it's Friday.

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Hello, America.

I was gonna say we have some bizarre news coming out of California, but isn't everything that comes out of California a little bizarre, including the people, which is weird.

But we'll get to that.

Also,

have you ever had an MRI?

And you walk in and they're like, do you have any pins in your bones or anything?

Do you have any metal in your body?

We are in a chain or anything.

And you're like, no.

And they're like, you got to take off your belt.

And,

I mean, I always knew that that was a powerful magnet.

But did you hear about what happened to the guy in Long Island?

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Okay.

Jason, you had MRIs, right?

Yes.

Okay.

And,

you know, either like, you have anything in your pockets?

You know,

you're wearing button-up jeans, you know, and you know that it's a powerful magnet.

I got it.

I got it.

It's a powerful magnet.

I don't know if this is what you thought,

but a 61-year-old guy walked in, opened the door to an open MRA room where there was a session going on.

He had a heavy metal necklace around his neck, and they described it as he was sucked into the machine.

You open the door,

your chain around your neck sucks you across the room into the machine, and he's in critical condition.

did you have any idea that's how i mean i would have taken the you know do you have a belt on a little more seriously

holy cow this is like if magneto like you open the door and magneto is on the other side and does his little thing i'm like wait what yeah i have questions though on this this is like

how big was this chain was this like flava flave and his like clock necklace or i don't know i don't know i don't know it just says he has a heavy,

he had a heavy metal necklace on, rushed to a hospital where he was listed in critical conditions with unknown injuries.

What?

What?

In what?

I mean, it slammed him against the machine so hard,

it pulled him to a point to where it might have snapped his neck.

What happened?

I want more on this story.

I know, and it says it's unclear how he got authorized.

He did not have authorization, and it's unclear how he gained access.

Poor dude was just looking for the bathroom, opened the wrong door, and gets sucked in by Magneto.

Don't they?

This story's getting more and more bizarre as you tell it.

Aren't there usually locks on those doors?

I mean, if there's not, there should be.

If that's the way it is, and grandma could be with her walker, and she opens the door, you know, and she impaled the person who was sitting there in front of the MRI machine with her walker.

I mean,

that's pretty serious.

Yeah, that's it.

It's got,

they have to have locks on those doors.

They do.

I don't know because I never.

The picture on the New York Post article where I'm reading this from shows a door.

I don't know if it's the door, but it shows like one of those numbered locks where you have to punch in the code off of each little.

Oh, yeah.

That's what it shows.

I guess it wasn't working or I don't know.

I would investigate if there

maybe he was a Trump supporter and there was some lefty there.

It's like, hey, you want to do something fun?

Punch these four numbers into that door right there.

Now, there's also something else, and I don't know how I feel.

Well, I do know how I feel about this.

Paranormal investigator Dan Rivera, who has been touring the United States with a supposedly haunted raggedy and doll named Annabelle,

died unexpectedly at a hotel, sparking a big reaction online.

Riviera, 54, found dead in his room on Sunday at the end of a three-day stop in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania,

as part of his Devil's on the Run tour with this

doll.

Members from the Gettysburg police responded to a hotel in the township, Adams County, for a report of a deceased man in his hotel room found there by workers.

Nothing unusual or suspicious was observed at the scene.

The case is pending autopsy results, blah, blah, blah.

The New England Society for Psychic Research described this particular doll as demonically possessed.

It was given to a nursing student in 1968.

She claimed that

there were occurrences with the doll, and they were introduced to a medium who told them the doll was inhabited by a spirit of a young girl named Annabelle.

Two roommates tried to accept the doll's spirit and please it, only to have it reciprocate with maliciousness and violent intent.

I'd like a little more,

I'd like a little more description other than reciprocate with maliciousness.

I mean, you know, if we're talking about a possessed doll, did it drag you across the room and slam you into an MRI machine?

I mean, I'd like a little more than, you know, it was malicious.

How was it malicious?

Society's late founders, Ed and Lorraine Warren, kept the doll stored in a glass case in an effort to contain the evil spirit

kept in a glass case in an effort to contain the evil spirited entity.

Now,

I can't say I've...

I can quote the Bible,

but I don't remember any place in in the Bible where Jesus was like,

and if I could just trap the devil in a glass case, we'd be sad.

I mean,

do you know of anything like the properties of glass that could contain an evil spirit that I don't know of, Jason?

Or

I will say that everything involved with this doll is weird.

I don't really trust everything that comes from

the couple that, you know, the Warren Ed Lauren Warren.

Yeah, they were the Amityville horror people, right?

Like, they were the ones that investigated that, a bunch of other things.

It's weird.

But the Annabelle Doll, I was just looking up some of the history on it.

There were three main victims that claimed to first report this back, what, in the 70s.

But then there was also a priest who is still unnamed who got into a near-fatal car crash that was involved.

Yeah.

Wait, an unnamed priest who was in an almost fatal car crash?

That doesn't happen.

Okay.

I hear you're speculating no no i mean

no i mean that's not what is that uh he saw the doll and then he had an almost fatal con uh uh uh you know accident on the way home okay

okay okay smarty pants well okay victim number five is oh crap

a named motorcycle rider

okay i mean it's like this guy paranormal investigator dan riviera who's been touring the United States with a supposedly haunted Raggedy Ann doll named Annabelle, died unexpectedly at a hotel.

Well, what does that mean?

He's at a hotel.

Of course, his death was unexpected, or he would have been at the hospital.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, all death is unexpected when you're not at the hospital.

Yeah.

So what is that?

I mean, what does that mean?

He was 54 years old, found dead in his room on Sunday.

Now, if he had little Raggedy Ann handprints on his neck, then maybe I go there.

So that guy was

he was respected in the paranormal investigations like community.

So

I saw a lot of people like a lot of outpouring, you know, just of love and respect from like people that were in that community.

No,

I don't mean to make fun of his

death by any stretch, but I mean, look, I believe in evil.

I believe, you know, I believe in possession.

I believe, I believe a lot of people in the country today are possessed.

I mean, you see it.

You see some of these crazy people, and they have either gone absolutely gonzo nuts, or some of them are possessed.

You look at some of the reactions from people, you know,

on the street, and you just, you say something.

I mean, I know you've seen these videos where somebody will bring up something about Donald Trump or they'll be, you know,

you know, preaching the Bible and these people come out of the woodwork and they're like, ah,

and you're like, wow, that seems like a serious mental illness or possession.

And I think people are possessed right now.

I think we have a real problem with that.

And I think people are nuts.

But I mean,

why would you put this in a glass case and then tour it around?

Right.

Why?

Why would you do that?

If it's evil, wouldn't you want to?

So when we first built

our ranch,

I went in and I tried to build it like my grandfather would.

My grandfather had no money.

And so I built it the same way he would have.

We went and we found old doors, you know,

at an architectural, you know,

place where they just had all old doors and windows and everything else.

We bought everything there.

And these doors were less than 100 bucks, maybe 50 bucks.

And we were putting them in, and there was one door that came in, and the guys hung it before I got there.

And it was this blue door.

And everybody who was involved with the rebuild, and I know this sounds crazy, they were all like, when I got there, they're like, Glenn, there's a door that was delivered and none of us feel good about this door.

And I'm like, this is a bizarre conversation.

What's wrong with the door?

And they're like, well, it just, I don't know, there's something about it.

And I said, let me see the door.

And I went downstairs and immediately, it it was like, I don't know.

It was like

from a murder house or something.

I don't know where this door came from, but it had such bad mojo on it.

I said, immediately, take it down.

Let's take the screws out of the hinges right now and burn it in the backyard.

And we burned the door.

So I believe in stuff like that.

But I would have never went and said, you know what we need to do is put this door in a glass box and then take it around for a tour on the country.

That just doesn't sound like, it sounds like something something evil might want you to do, you know?

Right.

Yeah, I will say that I went to a private Christian university, and

we had to go to a Bible class every single semester.

And in one of the Bible classes, we had like a two to three week long conversation on objects like Ouija boards.

It was the most bizarre.

I don't know how we ended up going that way in the discussion, but we talked about it forever.

And the professor was talking about how

he believed that, you know, evil,

you know, dark spirits and the devil use even objects as conduits.

So even if it's something ridiculous, like Ouija boards, they use them.

If enough people are talking about this Annabelle doll and believe that it could be evil, I absolutely believe that it could be used as a conduit.

Absolutely.

Oh, I believe that.

I believe that.

Here's what I have a hard time with it.

Why in God's green earth would you put it on tour?

I agree with that.

Why wouldn't you destroy it?

Hey, look at this.

We just found something really super spooky and evil, and we're all against it.

Pay five bucks to see it.

We're going to put it on tour.

It makes no sense to me.

Makes no sense.

Especially when, you know, there's a lot of stuff we have to put up with.

A spooky raggedy and all is not something that we need to have in our life.

Let's just cut out some of the easy stuff, can we?

All right, I want to tell you about Voice of America.

You know,

Voice of America, well, that's not a commercial.

It's a tease for something I'm going to tell you about a story.

Voice of America is

something that the government,

didn't we just defund that,

Jason?

VOA, I'm not sure.

No, it's NPR and

what was the other one?

PBS.

PBS.

But I thought like last week or last couple of weeks, at least we talked about it.

I think they did something with Voice of America, too, which is good

because Voice of America has turned into a horrible thing.

So an employee of Voice of America

is about as smart as that Raggedy Andoll is

and

decided that he was going to,

well, he was going to fix some problems.

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I am telling you, people have gone nuts on the left.

Authorities now have arrested a former Voice of America employee.

Apparently,

some serious charges coming his way.

He decided that he was going to threaten

a sitting

congresswoman.

It's Marjorie Taylor Greene, and her staff.

And apparently he made multiple

over the span of like 15 months multiple phone calls to

their offices saying, you know, I'm going to kill you, et cetera, et cetera, threatening to kill her and the staff and everybody else with firearms.

It took him a while to trace that, which I find interesting, but it took him a while to trace it.

But it all went back

to phone lines from Voice of America.

And he had worked for years in the studios and control rooms.

And

he took his freedom of speech probably a little too far.

He now faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison

by

trying to influence a federal official by threatening a family member

and threatening to kidnap or injure, and he could face an additional five years for the harassment

on the telecommunications.

So we'll see if he's convicted, we'll see.

But I mean,

you have the USAID people,

the people that were fired saying, literally coming out and saying

to a press person, the president made a huge mistake because we know how to create revolutions.

And now, if he would have just tolerated us and left us alone,

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That's a direct threat.

That's crazy, this guy.

You have the people

all over the country that are threatening ICE agents.

You have the Democrats that are just putting up with it.

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You want to talk about a grassroots organization.

There it is.

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His company wouldn't do it because, A, he didn't think it would be effective.

But B, he said, because I thought it it was going to be tied to violence and I wanted to have nothing to do with it.

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So Elizabeth, who does the makeup

for the program, just came into the studio and she said, you know, when I was a kid, I was, you know, we played with a Ouija board because, you know, I remember this as a kid too.

Isn't that like a Ouija board?

And it's like a Milton Bradley or something.

One of those big game companies, yeah.

Yeah.

And so, and it was marketed as just a toy.

And, you know, everybody who, at least in my family, everybody who was religious at all was like, ah, stay away from Ouija boards.

And I believe, don't, don't conjure anything.

You can call this stuff on

and you know don't conjure up anything stay away from from that kind of stuff

but I mean that's just the way I was I was raised apparently Elizabeth was raised the same way you I mean you you you grew up in a wasn't your dad a pastor Jason yeah yeah he was Yeah,

so he had to have been all over the Ouija board thing.

Oh,

not in our house, you know, not at all.

And he actually went to this, he went went to the same school that I went to, where I was telling you about that.

We just got into that crazy, you know, like two to three week conversation just on Ouija boards and just the idea that evil can be channeled through any object.

And he had this insane story and we've all got them pretty much.

But here we go.

Wait, this is your dad?

No, no, this is from, so this is from my professor.

A professor.

And so we've all got these, you know, these stories, but coming from like an authority in, you know, theology and the Bible, I was like, okay, this is insane.

He was talking about how they were doing it.

It was actually, I think they were doing it as almost like an experiment.

I don't, I don't know, or maybe they were just being stupid, but they were.

Yeah, I don't like experiment.

Hey, let's do an experiment with the devil.

Right.

That's, that doesn't go well usually.

It's really easy.

But it didn't go well for them either.

So they were all like in this apartment.

They were messing around with this Ouija board.

They said the phone kept ringing.

They would, one person would leave the board, go pick it up, no one would be there.

Eventually, like the last two times the phone rang, all they heard was like a growling.

And they were like, uh, okay, this is weird.

They hung up the phone.

They kept screwing with it.

Then they heard a knock at the door.

One of the guys opened the door.

The guy, and I kid you not, he said that he levitated off the air and got pushed into the wall.

And they all freaked out.

and got rid of the Ouija board.

But this is not someone that would like make that up.

And this is not something where you could easily lie, you know what the big lie on these Ouija boards is like, oh, you're moving it.

You're moving it.

That's not someone moving the little piece on the board.

That's the description of a serious demonic presence right there.

I think that is absolutely, I mean, that is what we are experiencing in the country.

It is.

And, you know, one day you're playing with a Ouija board and the next day you're out buying raw milk in the black market.

I was thinking of saying that

i know hang on hang on i just i don't want to make light of this because i actually do believe all this stuff exists i just it starts with this raggedy and thing i don't believe a ougea board is a good thing i don't put it in a glass box and take it on tour i burn it you know if i got a raggedy ann that is suspected of killing people i don't take it on tour i burn it i don't understand why you would what what the point is of of even playing around with this stuff just get rid of it just get rid of it glenn you're concerned otherwise you're gonna be buying raw milk glass protects us from mosquitoes you think they can't protect us from evil demonic forces i mean come on

i well i i know they're very much alike they're very much alike

Did you see the story about raw milk in the blaze today?

This hit close to home.

About how.

Why?

Are you a raw milk drinker?

Are you a raw milk drinker?

Well, this is this story

from the Blaze.

Well, I'm typically not, but my wife is all into things like this.

And

this story on the Blaze, it said, you know, why buying raw milk feels like breaking the law.

Hold on, Jason.

Hold on.

I just have to point out,

this is how rebellious we really are.

Jason just said, I'm not into the raw milk thing, but this is the kind of stuff my wife's into.

Oh, okay.

Whoa, you're living out on the edge, Jason.

That's crazy.

All right.

So tell me about the black market raw milk.

This is a thing.

It really does feel like you're breaking the law.

And you're like, wait a minute.

I'm just buying milk, but I wasn't told this by my wife.

She was like,

she goes, hey, babe, do you...

Do you have, do you have your gun?

And I'm like, well, yeah, you know, I always have my gun.

She goes, well, make sure you bring it to one of our meetings today.

And I'm like, what?

I know.

I'm like, like, what are you talking about?

And she goes, well, you know, I heard from a friend, from a friend, from a friend, and, you know, I won't tell you that person's name, but we're going to go to a place that, you know, has raw milk.

And I'm like, okay,

like,

this is that big of a deal?

And she's like, yeah, I don't really know who they are, but just let's go and we'll figure it out.

And I'm like, okay, whatever.

So I'm like, I'm down for an adventure.

We go to this like really shady neighborhood, go to the neighborhood, walk up,

Like, a wife or something first comes to the door and vets us for like maybe 15 minutes, just talking to us about random junk.

Almost like if you're in a go fly on the LL flight, you know what I mean?

And they just like, see, you described this before.

That's what it felt like.

I was like, they're looking for inconsistencies here.

This is crazy.

So, like, wait, wait, what are they?

What are they, like, what are the questions they ask you?

You know, like, if you get stopped, everyone's like, oh, you, you know, you came from here.

Oh, okay.

What were you doing over there?

Oh, okay.

so you know you you came down this street to get over yeah yeah okay do you always come down this street you know every once in a while you know whatever things like that

weird i know this was like an operation

is this like in farmland you said it was a sketchy neighborhood Are they shady cows?

What do you mean?

Where are you buying your milk?

I know.

So that it gets even deeper within that.

So, no, this was just like a way station.

So, like, they have the farms somewhere else.

But, like, this was in like...

come on I'm dead serious We go into this neighborhood.

This is like while after we get vetted for 15 minutes Then it's like a look is like you know like a nod or something then this guy that clearly looks like a farmer comes walking around the corner.

He's like, all right, you guys come back here.

We go to his backyard and then he's like, all right,

do you want one gallon?

Do you want two gallons?

Like

we're like,

is there an extra charge?

Like if we have more than two grams of cocaine that you get charged more?

is it weighed like that

i could i could i get a lifetime supply i never want to come back here again

but no it's like it absolutely felt like breaking the law and then i was looking up the laws after the fact about you can do it in texas there's many states where it's so overregulated that

It really is kind of like breaking.

You definitely, raw milk, you can't even transport it across state lines.

So it actually is kind of like drugs or something like that.

Unless you're a cow.

And that's a very

time.

Unless you're a cow.

I've been transporting raw milk and these cows back and forth across state lines for years.

It's so unfair.

And they can't even help it.

Dang.

But yeah,

in Texas, you can get a permit for it.

So you can get permitted to, I guess you have to be a farm.

The farm can get a permit.

then they can sell you raw milk.

But it just seems so ridiculous.

I mean, wait, wait, wait.

So, was this an underground raw milk place?

Was this a place that didn't have the permit?

And they're like,

hey, I got some good milk over here.

Is this a non-permitted place?

This was totally underground.

This is definitely not permitted.

No way.

What is your wife?

Where is your wife?

What is happening?

How is your wife now

gotten you involved in a raw milk, you know,

cabal?

Cabal.

Yeah, I know.

Well, they did invite us out to the farm after they kind of got to know us.

And they're like, you know what?

I think I should actually follow up on that now.

This might be kind of interesting.

Can I see your license for the raw milk?

Because this is weird.

I don't know.

I mean,

everything that I've heard about raw milk, I mean, have you had it yet?

Have you

been drinking it?

We've been drinking it, yeah.

Is it good?

Yeah, it's there's definitely it tastes a little bit sweeter, I think, in my opinion.

Uh, and really the only difference is it hasn't been heated up to, you know, extreme temperatures

for the whole process.

But those worries are really for mass production.

So, if you're just, if it's a farm, you know, that's got a few cows, well, come on, worry for mass production and

unclean conditions.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean, you know, you want to make sure somebody's got at least a rag around, you know, to clean the others before, you know,

maybe it's just me, but

I don't know.

I really want to try it.

I've never had it.

I want to try it.

It makes sense to me that we, I mean, we cook everything out of our food.

We cook everything good out of our food.

Yeah.

But

it seems to make sense, although drinking the milk of another animal doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me.

Wait, what?

It doesn't.

I mean, we're the only ones that do it.

We're the only ones that do it.

You know, you don't see a koala bear coming up to a, I don't know, a bird and say, hey, vomit in my mouth, will you?

I mean, they don't, we all kind of eat our own thing, you know what I mean?

If koala bears, what other if they ate cereal, they would definitely be drinking milk.

That's my thing.

All right, you're right.

It might be the cereal.

That's why we're the superior animal.

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So, Zoran Mamdani

is taking another level down to hell on his communism.

There is a resurfaced video now.

We don't know the date, but it wasn't a current video, of him talking about private property.

Listen to this.

This is the possible next mayor of New York City.

Listen to this.

My platform is that every single person should have housing.

And I think faced with these two options,

the system has hundreds of thousands of people unhoused, right?

For what?

And

if there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.

And I think that people try and play like gotcha games about these kinds of things.

And it's like, look,

I care more about whether somebody has a home

than if you're a communist?

I mean, listen to him because this is a, this was recorded not yesterday.

Some people, some people are saying, ah, he's just trying to, you know, play into this AOC thing.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

He means this.

He is a deeply considered,

a deeply

considered Marxist.

He's a guy who has thought about this for a very long time.

He believes these things.

I mean, he has talked about how he's going to build public housing and take private property away and start turning it into public housing.

Okay, well, he's just said that recently, and this shows that he's been committed to seizing private property for a long time.

He's talking about taking and having public grocery grocery stores.

Grocery stores have a margin of anywhere between 2 and 4%.

This is not the greedy grocery store magnets that you're worried about.

I mean, there's not a lot of money in the markup on a grocery store.

If you start taking

and

doing government grocery stores, First of all, how are you going to compete?

You're going to save somebody 2%?

That's not worth going to a government grocery store because you're going to suck at it because you're going to make all the decisions and not let the market make the decision.

So

it's going to suck.

And what?

You're saving 2% or maybe 4%?

Is that worth violating all of our principles for?

And now private property.

Got to get rid of private property.

This guy is clearly a communist.

And

why he is still polling is an indictment, really, on our educational system.

It shows nobody knows what communism is.

Nobody's been taught how dangerous it is, how dangerous Marx is, that it has led to over, what, 150 million murders in the last

150 years.

It's more deadly than I think all of the diseases put together

in any given time.

I mean, it is a deadly ideology, and yet so many in our country are flirting with this.

This is because education stinks on ice.

That's why I'm dedicating the next portion of my life to education.

And you'll find out more about that and the torch as we get closer to its launch in January.

All right, have a safe weekend.

May God save the Republic.

This is Glenn Beck.