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Paul Sperry is with us today to tell us about a grand conspiracy that is now being

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But somebody who worked at CBS, who was way back with the press pool,

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Selena is going to talk about that.

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So about an hour and a half ago, two hours ago, Susan Crabtree from Real Clear Politics, she is their national political correspondent.

She tweeted something about, you know, that Wall Street Journal ridiculous letter that was posted.

I mean, just

so bad on Epstein.

She just posted.

that the guy who was the reporter that did that story, his only job of journalism before that was he worked for Maine Justice,

which is Glenn Simpson's wife's publication.

Who's Glenn Simpson?

Glenn Simpson is the founder of Fusion GPS.

Who's Fusion GPS?

The firm that Hillary Clinton paid to come up with and produce the steel dossier.

Come on.

I mean, this is just,

it's incredible.

It is absolutely on Monday, we were all going, Donald Trump, what are you doing?

Why are you saying this?

By Wednesday, I'm like, wait a minute, I think he might have some.

Today, it's just like all falling into place.

You're like, oh my gosh, this is such a setup.

Oh, it's incredible.

Now, Real Clear Politics having a really kind of a banner day, especially today.

Real Clear Investigations, the senior reporter there, Paul Sperry, is the guy who really has the story on what the Trump team is doing on this giant conspiracy case that they are building.

Paul, welcome to the program.

Glad to be with you.

Thank you.

So on, what was it, Sunday, they had an urgent meeting, the Trump officials.

And what were they meeting about?

Tell me the story.

So what we know is they have declassified a new batch of documents related to the Russiagate hoax, and they're planning to release them soon.

And I've got that confirmed now from the highest levels of the ODNI.

And they're planning to brief reporters and publish the documents in a report prepared by DNI Gabbard's office, which has declassification authority across the IC, the intelligence community.

And this would be just the first wave of declassification.

It's not a dump of all the documents at once.

And

all this is being coordinated with the White House and the Department of Justice.

And this is a 200-page congressional audit.

And

what is it saying?

That's part of it.

That's part of it.

There's more?

Yes, they're not going to release the whole thing, as I understand.

They're going to take some pieces from it that I was told the documents

not only definitively,

definitely back up the internal CIA review of the ICA and possible perjury by Brennan and Comey,

but there's way more from that, including emails

showing links between the crossfire hurricane and the rigged ICA operation.

This is the intelligence community assessment that Obama ordered, which would strengthen the predication for a conspiracy-to-Frank Trump case.

Jeez.

So, I mean, this is like, this is like an unbelievable smoking gun if it is as advertised, right?

I mean, could we have asked for a bigger smoking gun than this?

Well, we don't know exactly what it is.

And of course, we've been

over-promised in this never-ending zombie Brushagate scandal and and and under been under delivered on the promises so many times like you know it's almost like losing the football at this point um

but uh

you know they're they're the the

investigation the conspiracy investigation is real I mean this is happening and we understand there is a case file number

and an EC officially opening the investigation.

This is an electronic communication.

And it's it's been assigned to a field office.

So, and they're focusing on a number of potential co-conspirators, and we'll be publishing a list of them at Real Clear Investigation.

So, stay tuned for that.

And what they're dealing with with this.

What's that?

Hang on just a sec.

We do know that Comey and Brennan are part of that list, don't we?

Absolutely.

They've actually

formally been named already in a criminal referral

for a conspiracy to commit perjury.

And what they're doing with

trying to do this as a conspiracy case rather than individual charges,

they're trying to deal with the statute of limitations, which is five years in federal cases, most federal cases.

So they have to tie it all back together as a broad conspiracy to get around the time time limits.

And that's why they're reaching as far back as the Clinton email investigation to also show the double standard of her favorable treatment by Comey

versus Trump's aggressive treatment.

And this is also by Obama and Biden investigators and prosecutors going forward all the way up to the Mar-a-Lago

raid.

So, you know, according to their case theory,

you know, they all conspired to protect Hillary and to frame and to stop Trump.

To protect Hillary from what?

Just the...

From investigation so she could be president.

From convict from, you know, they exonerated her.

The servers.

And they never investigated.

And that's another thing that they're looking at

in these documents is the declassification of these highly classified annex, first of all, in the Inspector General report

that

revealed a number of foreign actors breaching Hillary's emails in her unsecured email server.

And then Comey and Peter Strzok, who is the head of counterintelligence.

He was supposed to investigate things like that.

He didn't bother and just completely neglected to investigate that huge breach.

And then you have the classified appendix in the Durham report, which talks about a Clinton intelligence,

a Clinton plan intelligence that was intercepted, and Brennan got a hold of it.

And, you know, basically

laying out a Clinton plot to frame Trump.

And this was in July 2016.

And Comey and

Strzok didn't investigate that either.

So it's a double standard, disparate treatment, and that's part of a conspiracy case that they're building.

Okay, so

let's just say that we're not Lucy, and we haven't been down this road a million times because I know the football can be pulled away from us at any moment and probably will.

But let's just look at this moment and say, okay,

these things are possibly going to be produced and are

What does this mean for the people involved, do you think?

I mean, how bad is this going to get?

And how deep will they go?

Well, I mean, there are a lot of co-conspirators,

as long as your arm, that would be named at once.

But,

and, you know, it...

It definitely is ambitious, but it's not pie in the sky because the data points are all there for a conspiracy.

They just have to find a grand jury to hear all the evidence with an open mind.

And that won't be in D.C.

Yeah, 90% data points that automatically bias against Trump.

But they could move it to Florida, right?

Sure, because as an ongoing conspiracy, they're going all the way through to Jack Smith and the whole Mar-a-Lago business.

And on and on it goes with

leaks and more sabotage.

But

this influence operation

has done lasting damage.

It's caused lasting damage to Trump and his presidency, his legacy.

Polls show that the vast majority of Democrats still believe, still, to this day, believe that Trump is a Russian agent, despite the complete debunking of the Hillary's dirty dossier and the PK

and all that made-up garbage.

So,

in the end,

Paul, even if these people go to jail, if that's not corrected,

and I don't know how you would correct that in people's minds, if that's not corrected,

this only makes the left even more angry and probably more violent because now they're locking up everybody who is just against Donald Trump.

How do we solve this?

What does this mean in the end if we can't change that?

Well, there has to be some accountability, and it may not

lead to convictions,

even indictments.

But

if these documents get out into a court law, if they get out into

a courtroom, the media will finally be pressured, at least.

I'm not saying forced to cover it, which they've buried this because they're so invested in the whole

Russia

business they won Pulitzer Pulitzer for.

So

they're running block and tackle against any of this stuff.

But

if you finally get declassified documents and put out there in the public domain, put out there in the courtroom,

smoking guns, as you were saying, they have to cover that.

I think right now

they want to get past this Chepry Upstein news cycle so the media doesn't have an excuse not to cover it before they release this stuff, or at least let it die down a little bit

um a couple of questions why wouldn't we release it why wouldn't they release it you said if they release it why wouldn't they other than no they're it's going to be released it's just it's just uh they're they're preoccupied right now with

the epstein business so do you think that's what it do you think that's what is leading to the president being so angry he's like i've got something would you please shut up so we can release this

Possibly, yeah, because I know that they briefed the White House on this on Tuesday, and I can't imagine that Chief of Staff didn't, in turn, brief the President.

Wow.

And the last thing, the meeting did not have Pam Bondi or Tulsi Gabbard in it.

Do you know why?

The principals were not in the meeting.

It was high-level staff for both the DOJ and ODI.

Why?

Is that normal?

I don't know.

Oh, yeah,

that's normal for stuff like this.

They don't have to be there.

You know, then

they're briefed about it.

Okay.

Paul, great investigation.

Thank you.

Thank you for bringing us up to the speed.

This is really remarkable if it happens.

This is game-changing.

It absolutely could.

It's definitely the dam is starting to break on on all this.

There's no doubt.

Paul, thank you very much.

I got to tell you, Jason.

Wow.

I mean, that's what we've been hoping for, right?

That's what we've been waiting for.

This restores the trust we've been saying we needed to see from Epstein.

This could be the one that, I mean, you could go all the way back to Hillary Clinton.

I can't can't imagine they're going to lock her up.

They should, but I can't imagine they're going to lock her up.

But I mean, to be able to have those documents out and show this conspiracy, again, I don't know if it's going to change the left's point of view because they're just insane at this point.

But

get it into a courtroom, that's going to be

pretty intense.

Yeah, Glenn, I mean, I'm just biting my fist through that entire thing because I just want to scream out.

This is amazing.

You got to give it it to Paul.

He is the true personification of a journalist and investigator.

So he was, but I was while he's narrating this or talking about it, I'm like, oh my gosh,

they're killing the deep state, everything.

Thank you for saying this.

Thank you for saying this because I'm talking to Paul.

I don't know Paul and I'm talking to him.

And he's like, well, yeah, I mean, you know, it could be a very big deal.

And you're like, wait, oh my gosh.

I just thought it was bigger than that.

You're exactly right.

He's a journalist.

That's a journalist for you.

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This is the best of the Glen Beck program.

Selena Zito.

First of all, Selena, congratulations.

Let me just say this.

I don't know if this is the first time that it's been said to you on a national broadcast, but I want to introduce you to Selena Zito, a number one New York Times best-selling author.

Hello, Selena.

No, it is the first time, and you're going to make me cry.

I was with the first time, the first time I was a number one New York Times bestselling author, when it, you know, when it really meant something, when the New York Times wasn't just like, ah,

I was with Vince Flynn.

And

he said, congratulations.

And I said, thank you.

And he said, I want you to know how hard it is for me to say that because.

I worked my whole life

writing to get there.

And you,

you just wrote a story and now you're number one.

I feel for you because you worked your whole life in writing and studying how to write and listening to people.

And I'm so proud of you and happy for you, Selena.

Well, I have to take this moment to first thank you, Glenn, for using your platform to introduce your listeners to the book and to the importance of the book, not just about what happened that day, not just about me being a witness to history, but also

why things are happening the way they are.

That's what the book Butler does, and it really gives a profound

look at what is happening in the country.

And I think

it concludes at the end with a chapter called The Reckoning, and it's about my profession.

It really tells you everything

that you need to understand about what is happening with my profession.

And you can see it with the whole Epstein thing.

And also the...

Okay, so I want to, hang on,

I want to get into the Epstein thing.

I've got so much to talk to you about to get perspective on, but I have to start here.

Could we please play the CBS

reporter who now has had to have therapy?

Listen.

For those of us there, it was such a horror because you saw

an emerging America.

And And it wasn't the shooting, Chuck.

This was, I got diagnosed with PTSD within 48 hours.

I put on trauma leaf.

Not because I think of the shooting, but because you saw it in the eyes, the reaction of the people.

They were coming for us.

If he didn't jump up with his fist, they were going to come kill us.

I know.

I know.

Wow.

No.

Selena,

I did not get that appearance from anybody, but he was there.

He saw it.

Wait a minute, you were there.

What did you see?

Okay.

Well, I didn't see that.

You know,

first of all, when you're a journalist,

your last reaction should be, this was about me.

Right?

Because you're there

to tell the story of what happens.

You're not there to talk about your feelings.

And it's just so insulting for him to frame it that way because

he was talking about, you know, people turned around and were yelling at the camera.

He thought they were yelling at him.

No, they were saying we also are going to fight.

This is about standing up for America.

And I know that because it's in the book, Butler.

Well, he didn't read it.

He was too busy with therapy.

So wait.

So you're saying that when they looked at the cameras, they weren't looking at

the American people sending a message through the camera?

Yeah,

and I know this because

after the shooting, it's about two hours, it's an hour later.

Everyone is in the parking lot.

Remember, there's 50,000 people there.

There's at least 15,000 to 20,000 cars, and people can't move.

Now, if they were angry and wanted to hurt him, they would have not been peaceful, sharing food, sharing water, hugging, singing.

It was a very aspirational moment.

And one guy was talking to me, and he said, Yeah,

we looked at the camera and said, We will fight.

And like, the one guy said, Yeah, I gave the camera a finger.

And he goes, We're going to tell the whole world that America

is not backing down and you can't take us out.

Now, if you took the moment to,

if he would have taken the moment to think about it, maybe you know, maybe he couldn't do it in that moment, but be more reflective afterwards and understood what was happening in the moment, he wouldn't be talking about himself and his feelings.

But wait, is this, did you, is this what your psychiatrist told you after the shooting?

Yeah.

Yeah, there.

I didn't have a psychiatrist.

Wait, but wait a minute.

You were just a couple.

Yeah, you were just a couple of feet away from the president who was bleeding.

You could see that.

You had a Secret Service agent on your back.

You were in the line of fire.

And what do you mean

you didn't go to a psychiatrist after?

I don't know.

I mean, you know, we have a job to do as journalists.

And, you know, even though I cover politics and shooting isn't typically part of it, if you come up as a journalist, you know, you cover cops,

you cover things that happen all over a city or a region.

You learn to completely detach and do your job.

That's what you do as a journalist.

That's your job.

That's your function.

You're supposed to deliver the news as it happens.

And your feelings are not supposed to be part of it.

Okay.

Let me give you something different.

This was just about two hours ago posted on X by Susan Crabtree.

I don't know if you know her.

She's the national political correspondent for Real Clear Politics.

Okay.

She just announced on X that, you know, the Wall Street Journal did that report yesterday.

where they showed this letter and this drawing that Donald Trump

sent to Epstein.

What, you don't, You didn't believe that?

It was in the Wall Street Journal.

You didn't believe that, Selena?

Not for a second.

That's not his signature.

Everybody knows his signature.

And he wouldn't draw that sloppy.

He is very perfect about everything that he does.

He would not draw that picture.

All right.

Okay.

So I think everybody, even Elon Musk is like, okay, come on.

All right.

Yeah.

Everybody knew that immediately, except for the Wall Street Journal and the reporter that apparently got that inside card or letter that he was sending to Jeffrey Epstein.

Now, here's what Susan Crabtree just reported about two hours ago.

The Wall Street Journal reporter.

that did that story yesterday worked for the main worked for Maine Justice, which is Glenn Simpson's wife's publication.

For those who don't know who Glenn Simpson is, he's the founder of Fusion GPS.

If you don't know who Fusion GPS is, they're the ones that were paid by Hillary Clinton for the Epstein file.

I mean,

it's, I don't know,

how?

What?

So how does an editor allow something to go past their desk like that.

You have to press and ask questions of the reporter.

You have to make sure that everything they have said, especially something that could possibly be as salacious as this

appeared to be,

you have to make sure that

everything is unearthed.

That's your responsibility as an editor.

That this got on to a page in a storied news organization is just beyond the pale to me.

My editor would have throat punched me if I would have tried to pull something off like that.

I love that.

Sorry, I didn't know that.

I was just talking to

you.

That's all right.

No, no, no.

It's so funny.

I was just talking to Donald Trump's wallet yesterday, and I'm like, have you gained weight?

And he's like, yeah, a little bit from CBS, but I'm about to put on pounds now with the Wall Street Journal.

I mean,

this is ripe for lawsuits and defamation, is it not?

Yeah, it is.

And here's the thing, Glenn, and I don't think people are talking about this enough.

Take a look at all of the wins that the president has had,

not just since he was sworn in, but just in the space of the last six weeks.

It's been unprecedented in history.

So how do you stop those wins if you don't like what he's doing?

I mean, that's the question.

And I think the Wall Street Journal provided the answer.

Well, I mean,

I hate to ask Jason

to explain

how this has worked, but Jason, could you explain to Selena what what's happened here today and yesterday?

Are you talking about your prediction?

Is that where we're going to now?

I don't.

No, I don't.

I don't.

I don't know.

Whatever it is you wanted to know.

Selena, whatever it is you have.

So, Selena, what happened was I'm Glenn Beck's writer and chief researcher, and we were going to do this amazing story on Wednesday and show where we were going to just talk about a whole bunch of Epstein stuff.

But he throws it out at the last minute, which...

Trust me has never happened to me before, ever.

Like, Glenn's never done that to me.

But yeah, he just throws it out, and he's like, you know, I got this theory that I think that, you know, one of the reasons Donald Trump is so pissed off and why he's naming Hillary Clinton and all those things in his posts is because maybe he's got inside information that they're about to start releasing information on that

ties him in some way to this.

Yeah, that is, that's not true, that you, you know, that he knows that this is coming and we're not seeing it.

He knows it.

And

he's like, you guys cannot be this stupid.

Now, I said on Wednesday, I don't know if this is true, but this is the only thing that makes sense to me.

And look at what's happening, which also brings me to why they're ignoring the left.

You know,

the Democrats have just let the left take over and they're revolutionaries and there's blood in the streets, or at least it's coming in buckets, I believe, if the Democrats don't start stepping up.

And I said, I don't think they are.

This is a few weeks ago.

I don't think they are because they're afraid of their own supporters.

I'm not sure that's true.

After what we just saw with this letter in the Wall Street Journal and what is coming out of real clear investigations now about the

conspiracy investigation that's going on, I think they're more afraid of jail than they are blood in the streets.

I think they are desperate now to stop this any way they can because they know it's over.

What do you think of that?

Well,

so

the key word that you just said, Glenn, is desperate.

And desperate people do desperate things.

And we see that just

when this story came out yesterday, I was driving home from DC and thanking Jesus for getting out of there.

And I thought,

this is so obvious.

And to to your point, if you just sort of follow

everything that the president has said, everything that he has posted, and then all the sort of things like Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, and then

this Wall Street Journal.

I mean,

it's so obvious.

Even a 12-year-old could put the puzzle pieces together that they were prepping to do this because they know a bigger problem is coming their way.

They know it.

They can feel it.

It's coming down their back.

It's amazing.

Selena, thank you so much for your perspective and congratulations on the number one New York Times bestseller, Selena Zito, the author of Butler a Must Read.

If you want to understand not just what happened on that day, but understand where we're headed, what's happening.

in our country, what the press is missing.

I mean, I swear to you,

I wish people had an open enough mind that people who disagree with me would just read this book because you would be able, if you had an open mind, you might be able to understand what people like me and others who are not revolutionaries, who don't want to round you up, who don't want any of the stuff that your side claims we want.

You would begin to understand us.

Really well, well written, well researched, and well done by Selena Zito.

Thanks, Selena.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, everybody.

Thank Thank you.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Okay.

Jason, you had MRIs, right?

Yes.

Okay.

And,

you know, either like, do you have anything in your pockets?

You know,

you're wearing button-up jeans, you know, and you know that it's a powerful magnet.

I got it.

I got it.

It's a powerful magnet

I don't know if this is what you thought

but a 61 year old guy walked in opened the door to an open MRA room where there was a session going on he had a heavy metal necklace around his neck and they described it as he was sucked into the machine.

You open the door,

your chain around your neck sucks you across the room into the machine, and he's in critical condition.

Did you have any idea that's how, I mean, I would have taken the, you know, do you have a belt on a little more seriously?

Holy cow.

This is like if Magneto, like you open the door and Magneto is on the other side and does his little thing.

I don't know.

I have questions though on this.

This is like,

how big was this chain?

Was this like flavor flav and his like clock necklace?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It just says he has a heavy, he had a heavy metal necklace on, rushed to a hospital where he was listed in critical conditions with unknown injuries.

What?

What?

What?

I mean, it slammed him against the machine so hard, it, you know, it pulled him to a point to where it might have snapped his neck.

What happened?

Yeah.

I want more on this story.

I know.

And it says it's unclear how he got authorized.

He did not have authorization and it's unclear how he gained access.

Poor dude was just looking for the bathroom, open the wrong door and get sucked in by Magneto.

Well, like, what?

Don't they?

This story's getting more and more bizarre as you tell it.

Um, aren't there usually locks on those doors?

I mean, if there's not, there should be.

If that's the way it is, and grandma could be with her walker and she opens the door, you know, and she impaled the person who was sitting there in front of the MRI machine with her walker.

I mean,

that's pretty serious.

Yeah, that's it.

It's got,

they have to have locks on those doors.

They do.

Oh, I mean,

the picture on the New York Post article where I'm reading this from shows a door.

I don't know if it's the door, but it shows like one of those numbered locks where you have to punch in the code off of each little.

Oh, yeah.

That's what it shows.

I guess it wasn't working, or I don't know.

I would investigate if there

maybe he was a Trump supporter and there was some lefty there.

It's like, hey, you want to do something fun?

Punch these four numbers into that door right there.

Now, there's also something else, and I don't know how I feel.

Well, I do know how I feel about this.

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as part of his Devils on the Run tour with this

doll.

Members from the Gettysburg police responded to a hotel in the township, Adams County, for a report of a deceased man in his hotel room found there by workers.

Nothing unusual or suspicious was observed at the scene.

The case is pending autopsy results, blah, blah, blah.

The New England Society for Psychic Research described this particular doll as demonically possessed.

It was given to a nursing student in 1968.

She claimed that

there were occurrences with the doll, and they they were introduced to a medium who told them the doll was inhabited by a spirit of a young girl named Annabelle.

Two roommates tried to accept the doll's spirit and please it only to have it reciprocate with maliciousness and violent intent.

I'd like a little more

description other than reciprocate with maliciousness.

I mean, you know, if we're talking about a possessed doll, did it drag you across the room and slam you into an MRI machine?

I mean, I'd like a little more than,

you know, it was malicious.

How was it?

Society's late founders, Ed and Lorraine Warren, kept the doll stored in a glass case in an effort to contain the evil spirit

kept in a glass case in an effort to contain the evil spirited entity.

Now,

I can't say

I can quote the Bible,

but I don't remember any place in the Bible where Jesus was like,

and if I could just trap the devil in a glass case, we'd be sad.

I mean,

do you know of anything like the properties of glass that could contain an evil spirit that I don't know of, Jason?

I will say that everything involved with this doll is weird.

I don't really trust everything that comes from

the couple that, you know, the Warren.

Ed and Lorraine Warren.

Yeah, they were the Amityville horror people, right?

Like, they were the ones that investigated that, a bunch of other things.

It's weird.

But the Annabelle doll, I was just looking up some of the history on it.

There was three main victims that claimed to first report this back, what, in the 70s.

But then there was also a priest who is still unnamed who got into a near-fatal car crash that was involved.

Yeah.

Wait, an unnamed priest who was in an almost fatal car crash?

That doesn't happen.

Okay.

I hear you're speculating.

No, no, I mean,

no, I mean, that's not.

What is that?

He saw the doll, and then he had an almost fatal

accident on the way home.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, Smarty Pants.

Well, okay, victim number five is, oh, crap, a named motorcycle rider.

Okay, I mean, it's like this guy.

Paranormal investigator Dan Riviera, who's been touring the United States with supposedly haunted raggedy hand doll named Annabelle, died unexpectedly at a hotel.

Well, what does that mean?

He's at a hotel.

Of course his death was unexpected or he would have been at the hospital.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, all death is unexpected when you're not at the hospital.

Yeah.

So what is that?

I mean, what does that mean?

He was 54 years old, found dead in his room on Sunday.

Now, if he had little Raggedy Ann handprints on his neck, then maybe I go there.

So that guy was.

I'm sorry.

He was respected in the paranormal investigations community.

So

I saw a lot of people, like a lot of outpouring, you know, just of love and respect from like people that were in that community.

No, I don't.

I don't mean to make fun of his

death by any stretch, but I mean, look, I believe in evil i believe you know i believe in possession i believe i believe a lot of people in the in the country today are possessed i mean you see it you see you see some of these crazy people and they have either gone absolutely gonzo nuts or some of them are possessed you look at some of the reactions from people you know you know on the street and you just you say something i mean i know you've seen these videos where somebody will bring up something about donald trump or they'll be you know

you know, preaching the Bible, and these people come out of the woodwork and they're like, ah, and like, wow, that seems like a serious mental illness or possession.

Yeah.

And I think people are possessed right now.

I think we have a real problem with that.

And I think people are nuts.

But I mean,

why would you put this in a glass case and then tour it around?

Right.

Why?

Why would you do that?

If it's evil, wouldn't you want to...

So when we first built our ranch,

I went in and I tried to build it like my grandfather would.

My grandfather had no money.

And so I built it the same way he would have.

We went and we found old doors, you know,

at an architectural, you know.

place where they just had all old doors and windows and everything else.

We bought everything there.

And these doors were less than $100, maybe 50 bucks.

And we were putting them in, and there was one door that came in, and the guys hung it before I got there.

And it was this blue door, and everybody who was involved with the rebuild, and I know this sounds crazy, they were all like, when I got there, they're like, Glenn, there's a door that was delivered and none of us feel good about this door.

And I'm like, this is a bizarre conversation.

What's wrong with the door?

And they're like, well, it just, I don't know, there's something about it.

And I said, let me see the door.

And I went downstairs and immediately, it was like, I don't know.

It was like a, from a murder house or, I don't know where this door came from, but it had such bad mojo on it.

I said, immediately, take, take it down.

Let's take the screws out of the hinges right now and burn it in the backyard.

And we burned the door.

So I believe in stuff like that.

But I would have never went and said, you know what we need to do is put this door in a glass box and then take it around for a tour on the country.

It just doesn't sound like, it sounds like something evil might want you to do.

You know?

Right.

Yeah, I will say that I went to a private Christian university and we had, we had to have, well, we had to go to a Bible class every single semester.

And in one of the Bible classes, we had like a two to three week long conversation on objects like Ouija boards.

It was the most bizarre.

I don't know how we ended up going that way in the discussion, but we talked about it forever.

And the professor was talking about how that he believed that, you know, evil, dark, you know, dark spirits, the devil use even objects as conduits.

So even if it's something ridiculous, like Ouija boards, they use them.

If enough people are talking about this Annabelle doll and believe that it could be evil, I absolutely believe that it could be used as a conduit.

Absolutely.

Oh, I believe that.

I believe that.

Here's where I have a hard time with it.

Why in God's green earth would you put it on tour?

I agree with that.

Why wouldn't you destroy it?

Hey, look at this.

We just found something really super spooky and evil, and we're all against it.

Pay five bucks to see it.

We're going to put it on tour.

Why?

It just.

It makes no sense to me.

Makes no sense.

Yeah.

Especially when, you know, there's a lot of stuff we have to put up with.

A spooky, raggedy and all is not something that we need to have in our life.

Let's just cut out some of the easy stuff, can we?

No, no, no, no.

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

No.

Charlie's sober.

He's gonna tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action, aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.