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I will tell you that Stu and I have been talking a lot about all of the different things that are in the news today.

The one that we keep getting stuck on is the president's fitness test because neither of us could even come close to it.

And Stu is like, you know, that's outrageous.

That's, Stu, I looked up the fitness test from John F.

Kennedy in 1962.

I don't think you're going to like it.

I don't think you're going to like it.

It makes this one look like a wuss test.

I'll give that to you here in just a second.

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First of all, you know, the number one search today, what's trending on Google, is cashless bail.

What is cashless bail?

Cashless bail is when somebody is arrested and charged with a crime, they may be released before trial if they can pay bail.

Okay, that is the financial guarantee that you're actually going to show up in court.

Cashless bail removes money from the equation.

So instead, a judge decides to release, you know, a release is based on other factors, the severity of the crime, the person's criminal history, whether they pose a risk to the public or if they're going to, you know, leave.

So there is no cash.

You get bail without any cash.

That's, that's easy.

Now, some people are saying, you know, there shouldn't be justice shouldn't be for sale.

It's not.

Safety is what everybody's worried about, not justice.

And, you know, the left sees cashless bail as a step towards, you know, fairness.

You know,

I tend to look at it as you're just letting the person out, just letting the person out.

I mean, I know, I'm not for excessive bail.

That's in the Constitution.

You cannot have excessive bail.

I think this is the exact opposite of

excessive bail.

You know, this is no bail.

And

there are some things that are tried and true and have been going on for a long, long time that prove

to show results when you're trying to stop crime.

Bail is one of them.

Excessive bail is a sign of real problems in a society.

No bail, I believe, is a problem of real,

a real problem in societies, ours in particular.

So that's what cashless bail is.

Let me get that off the plate.

Okay.

I want to talk about the

Defense Department.

Now maybe being the Department of War.

You know,

Trump is, Trump is, he's just non-stop.

He just doesn't stop.

Every day, it's like...

I've heard it described by some people as Christmas every morning.

You wake up and you're like, what's under the tree today?

Sometimes it is coal.

Sometimes it's not.

Sometimes it's a new bike that you've been waiting for forever.

But every day he has got something else underneath the tree for us to open up.

There's a couple today that

need to be opened and discussed.

And one of them is the Department of Defense or the Department of War.

And when I first heard this, I thought, I don't know how I feel about that because I want to be defensive.

I don't want war.

Who wants war?

War is so icky and so scary.

I don't want war.

Okay, for the first 158 years of our republic, that's what it was.

It was the Department of War.

Why?

Because we were off again, on again.

We didn't have this big Department of Defense.

We didn't have a standing army.

When we had to go to war, we just got everybody together and say, bring your guns in.

We had a, you know, a Department of War that would open up and we could fight that war.

Then we would send everybody home.

We had that during, you know, Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the trenches of France, the beaches of Normandy, all of them.

What changed?

Well, Harry Truman came into office in 1947, and it was, you know, the most destructive war of all time,

but the war that would change everything.

And Truman recognized that we had to have a standing army.

Well, Americans were against against that.

They didn't want a standing army.

You know,

we were like, well, wait, wait, wait, what?

Because it was such a huge change.

And so Truman convinced everybody that we had to have a standing army because of now the bomb and everything else.

So he established the military

and within two years, it was called the Department of Defense.

Okay,

why did he do that?

Was that an act of political correctness, you know, before before we had a term, you know, for that?

Was it meant to sue the war-weary public?

Remember, we had been through two world wars in 20 years.

Is this trying to soften us and say we're not the aggressor?

We don't have a Department of War.

We have a Department of Defense.

We are only a defender, you know, or

was it something else?

What happened with the next president?

Because the first, the president that did this is Truman.

Who was the next president?

The next president was Eisenhower, the general.

He was the general that led the troops on the beaches of Normandy.

He was the five-star allied commander of World War II.

He becomes president.

And what is the last act he does in office?

The last act he does is give a speech where he's like, hey, I just want to warn you.

You know me.

I kind of like, you know, I kind of like the military.

You know, I fought kind of several wars.

The big one, you might have remembered WW2, you know, the big one.

I was there.

And I just want you to know we're in trouble because there's this military industrial complex and a military educational

complex.

And those two are going to get together and it's going to be really bad for America unless we all pay attention.

What he was saying was, we now have a Department of Defense full-time.

And you might think it's for defense, but it's not.

It is going to start doing things that it shouldn't do.

And it's going to start convincing you that we should be at war when maybe we shouldn't, because it will be good for the military-industrial complex.

And so after we went to the Department of Defense, now it's not just because of the name.

But after we went to the Department of Defense, because we had an established military now that was full-time, we started spending money like there was no tomorrow, and we started working on weapons, and those weapons had to be used and proliferated and everything else, and we ended up here.

So the president comes out, and he says, I really, really think we need the Department of War.

And everybody is like, wait a minute, I don't know if I like the Department of War.

Truman, I think, was rebranding it for peacetime.

Donald Trump is saying, and I I quote, I don't want to be defense only.

We want defense, but we want offense too.

And he is tapping into something that is, A, true.

You know,

you have to be, well, strength, you know, peace through strength.

This was Ronald Reagan.

I think Donald Trump is taking this a step further.

On the same, we're talking about this on the same day he said we should get rid of all of our nuclear missiles.

Who says this?

Oh, I remember.

The other warmonger, Ronald Reagan.

We just found out yesterday that Ronald Reagan

was trying to get rid of our nuclear missiles.

He didn't want to get all rid of all nukes.

He wanted the bombs that could be loaded on planes, but planes could be turned around.

Missiles cannot be turned around.

And so he said, let's get rid of missiles as a world.

Well, Donald Trump, I don't think coincidentally, this week is coming out and saying the same thing.

But he's also saying, at the same time, let's get rid of missiles.

he's saying

we should have a Department of War.

I don't think anybody's going to really give you all of this.

I certainly know the New York Times and the Post and everything else that all of your liberal friends read are not going to do anything except, see, he's a warmonger.

He's a warmonger.

No, he's really not.

I think the best way to stop war, and you're seeing it right now,

is to have a leader and a country that knows exactly who they are.

They walk up to the plate and say, you know, we could do this the easy way.

We could do this the hard way.

I recommend you do it the easy way.

Let's sit down.

Let's have a conversation.

Let's stop the killing.

And he tries and he tries and he tries.

But knowing

if you don't want to go that way, that's fine.

But I'm going to turn your sand into glass overnight.

And I'm not going to rebuild you.

I'm not going to bail you out.

You want to start something, go ahead, but we will finish it.

When your country has the credibility that that is exactly, he means what he says and says what he means, which is exactly what Donald Trump is doing,

why is the world coming to us?

Why is he able to solve all of these problems?

Why has he been able to grant peace?

Why has he been able to do all of these things that nobody else has even been able to do?

Now, yes, he hasn't solved Ukraine and Russia, but not all conflicts are really easy, super easy to solve, you know, with a bowl of peanuts and a nice glass of iced tea.

Some of them are a little difficult.

But why is the world coming to us?

Why is he having, is he effective like this?

Because they know he means what he says and says what he means.

You want to solve this?

Great.

You don't want to solve this?

Then these are the conditions that we're going to move forward on.

And that doesn't...

That doesn't embolden enemies.

That terrifies them.

He is the most anti-war president we have had since Jimmy Carter, but Jimmy Carter did not have the strength.

Carter was weak and signaled weakness, and so he made the world more unsafe.

This president is strong.

This president is making the country stronger, and he believes in peace just as much as Jimmy Carter does.

I think this president is saying, I want the people to know that this is the Department of War, not just externally, but internally too.

We need to be reminded all of that money, that defense, when you think of defense, what do you think?

You think of, well, there's cybersecurity and there's all this other kind of stuff, and we've got spy programs and, you know, we're going to have a missile shield.

But when you think of war, what do you think?

My children are going to die.

Bombs will be dropped.

That's the reality.

I think Donald Trump is trying to remind us, that's the reality of our Defense Department.

And we keep getting roped into all of these wars

that are meaningless.

Why?

Because somebody's making money.

So I don't know.

You know.

Who are we?

Do names even matter?

Do names guide our national character or follow it?

Are names important?

My dad always taught me words matter.

Every word matters because every word tells you something about what a man believes about himself.

So, do we need a Department of Defense or a Department of War?

What does the answer tell us about our leaders and about ourselves?

I can't believe I'm saying this because just last night before I really started thinking this through, I was against the Department of War.

I think I'm actually for the Department of War.

I think it's the right thing to do.

It shows strength externally, and it reminds us, most importantly, internally,

it is war.

It is death and destruction.

That's the biggest thing that bothers me about our Department of Defense when they're like, well, we got a nation built and we're going to train our Navy to go in and be just buddies.

That's not what the Navy is for.

That's not what the Air Force is for.

That's not what anybody is for in the Department of Defense.

It is

for war.

Break things, kill people.

That has to be reminded.

We have to remind ourselves every time.

You want to build things.

You want to be peaceful.

You want to make sure.

That's what, that's perhaps, perhaps what the State Department is for.

The Department of War

is for war.

Let's be clear and stop deluding ourselves.

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help me out here.

What is the new

president's physical fitness

plan?

Well, the thing that RFK Jr.

and Hag Seth were rolling out the other day, I don't know if it was the full test or anything, but they were issuing a challenge to America to be able to do 100 push-ups and 50 pull-ups within five minutes.

That's crazy.

Thank you.

That struck you also as crazy.

I don't think there's ever been a time in my life I could have done that, let alone now with shoulder problems and much too much weight.

Remember when I was a young ripper slipper before I needed this walker?

I don't think there was a time in my 20s or my teens that I could do that.

In five minutes?

50

of them in five minutes.

Yes, both of them.

So it's not like 100 push-ups in five minutes.

It's both tasks within five minutes.

No, no, that's not true.

That's not what they are.

RFK Jr.

is doing it in jeans.

Yeah, well, RFK Jr.,

he's a weirdo.

I mean, he is.

Come on, when it comes to fitness, he's a weirdo.

Yes.

I mean, he's done this his whole life.

He's, you know, like 800 years old, and he can still do it.

He's, I don't know.

It's impressive.

He's a sex machine.

That's

that's been a problem for him, yes.

that's been a problem.

It's been an issue in his life.

Yes.

Separate from the president's physical fitness test.

But I mean,

like,

they don't really think we're going to do that, right?

Like, I mean, how long would that take you to do?

I think for me, it would take a good month.

I think a month, I could probably get two pull-ups a day.

That would get me around, you know, a little over 50, so I could do that.

Plus the push-ups.

In a solid month, I could do that.

You would would do more than two a day you would do more than two a day you know Glenn I gotta say I think

I'm just gonna throw a number out there this is there's no science behind this but I'm just as a guesstimate I would say 40% of the population can't do any pull-ups maybe 30% 30% of the population can do exactly zero pull-ups precisely zero so an infinite amount of time would be the correct answer for a third of the population I think you're I think you're being

I think you're being a little too optimistic.

I think it's closer to 40 or 50.

I think it is closer to 40 or 50.

Right?

Maybe 60 for some.

Yeah.

Push-ups are one thing.

I mean, I think almost anybody could do

a push-up.

One.

You could do A push-ups.

Singular push-ups.

And if you could do one, you can wait long enough to do a second one, and at some point, the hundred gets done.

That is not the case with pull-ups.

Pull-ups,

you

can sit there and think about how much you want to do a pull-up for a really long time, but that doesn't make a pull-up happen.

If you've got a certain amount of weight on you or, you know,

you're not doing a pull-up.

It's just not occurring.

I have no idea how many pull-ups I could do.

I have an exact number of how many pull-ups.

I don't think I can do anything you could do.

Do you?

You think so?

Yeah, yeah.

I have the exact number of people.

I just haven't calculated.

AI has been running a report on me.

It came up with zero.

Right, really?

I bet I could do.

I mean, this is so pathetic.

Listen to this.

I bet I could do three.

You bet I could do three.

In a row?

With property in a row.

I'm saying, like, holding onto the bar without letting go, you're doing three.

There's no way.

I don't think so.

With proper form.

No, come on.

With proper form.

I don't know about that.

I don't know about that.

I don't know about that.

And I'm saying it has to look pretty.

You got to get your chin up above the bar, though.

It can't be one of those things where like you're a quarter of the way.

So I could do one and rest for 10 minutes and then do another one.

I think I could do that.

If you, I'm not saying like you, you jump up and you pull yourself up as you're going up.

You got to come, you know, from full hang.

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On this, you have no idea

who you're dealing with.

No, you don't have any idea who you're dealing with here.

I got my DNA test back like 10 years ago.

Okay.

And we all took it because we were looking for, you know, we were looking for things.

And so we all took it.

My DNA test came back.

And everybody in the family, their test made total sense.

We're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Then we read mine.

We have to find it.

I have to find it.

See if Tanya even has it still.

We should have it framed.

I swear to you,

they mixed me up with somebody else.

Somebody else is like, wait a minute.

Man, I'm this pathetic?

Mine came back and said, you have the

muscular structure of

a something like a...

an elite athlete.

You have the abilities and agility and everything else of an elite athlete.

And I'm like,

there's not a chance.

I don't have any of that.

I don't even know if I have muscles.

I have to check once in a while and go, do I have muscles?

Doctor's like, move your leg.

And I'm like, I don't know.

Can I?

I don't.

I don't know.

How do you know?

Just press against my hand on the leg.

I ache.

I don't know.

I don't know how to do that exactly.

So.

You sure it said

elite athlete and not elephant?

I mean, if they misspelled it, it could have been a smudge.

I was having eye problems at the time.

No.

I mean, we read it and I was like, Tanya, I believe that for Tanya.

Maybe they switched me and Tanya because Tanya is really strong.

She'll kick your butt.

She works out every day, all of that.

Me, never, never.

And it kind of makes me wonder when I get to the other side and the Lord went,

Okay, so what did you do with your life again?

Because I gave you this incredible body and you wasted it the whole time.

And I'm like, you should have been more clear.

Okay.

You should have been more clear.

I,

you know, maybe I could have played basketball, but I tried once and it was embarrassing.

It was embarrassing.

It was like sixth grade and I'll never live.

I don't even want to think about my time on a basketball court.

Okay.

So don't start with me.

You should have made it a little clearer when I first started to do stuff.

And I think that's fair.

I think that's a fair argument.

In my defense, in my defense, Your Honor,

God,

you should have made it a little more clear.

Yeah, I mean,

if they really wanted us to do this, then the 11th commandment is 50 push-ups and

50 pull-ups and 100 push-ups, right?

Like, put it in a commandment if you really want us to do it.

You know,

you have to be more specific.

We're Americans.

Okay.

So let me give you the top of the list for the JFK

presidential fitness test.

Okay.

This is what you had to do in high school.

In high school.

34 pull-ups.

Bar dips, 52.

What's I?

Because I believe I did that a long time.

And I don't recommend it.

Not a bar hop.

Oh, it's what?

Oh,

bar dips.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Bar dips, 52.

Handstand push-ups, 50.

What are handsets?

Oh, my God.

Hand stands.

I can't even stand on my hand.

Is that like I'm doing a handstand and a push-up?

Because that's not happening.

Yeah,

you're not human.

You're balancing yourself on your hands.

Your feet are above your hands

on the wall, like a wall, and you're doing.

Oh, so you're balancing yourself.

That makes it a little easier.

Still impossible.

Yeah.

But a little easier.

Impossible.

You could do precisely zero of those.

Right.

Okay, so you had to do 50 handstand push-ups or

one arm 30, no, sorry, 26 one-armed burpees in 30 seconds.

Isn't that a one-armed push-up?

No.

So

you're bracing yourself like you're about to begin a push-up in a burpee with only one arm, which that's not that difficult.

But then you're doing, I think

you move your feet towards your hands and then you jump up in the air, basically.

And then you do it repeatedly.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's ridiculous.

That's no.

There's a law of gravity, okay?

You're You're not supposed to violate it.

Yeah, that's not.

If it was a recommendation of gravity, maybe jumping would be appropriate, but it's not.

So follow the law.

In 48 seconds, you had to do a 300-yard shuttle.

Now, I've been to the airport.

I think I've done a

300-yard shuttle, but it depends on who's driving.

Right.

You know?

Yeah.

Rope climb.

Try this.

Rope climb.

This is bad.

20 feet.

Hands only sit start.

So

that's I remember from the president's physical fitness test.

And I remember looking at that rope and being like, no chance I can get up that thing.

Oh, I just remember looking at that rope thinking, humiliation.

Yeah.

Humiliation is coming my way.

I'll never kiss a girl because that ain't happening.

I'm going to get maybe 10 feet up.

Maybe, maybe.

And you were right for 24 years from that time.

Approximately.

Agility run, 17 seconds.

Extension press-ups.

Yeah, I need to do what, what?

I'm just so tired from reading this.

Extension press-ups.

What's an extension press-up?

Eight inch.

Let's see.

You got to do a hundred of those.

An exercise for low back pain involving lying on your stomach and pressing your upper body up with your arms while keeping your hips relaxed and down on the mat.

How I could do that.

Eight inches?

I could do the last part of it, relaxed and down on the mat.

I think it's what my doctor says I should be doing.

What?

I can do relaxed and down on the mat that part of it i can yeah i can do that i am the only guy i i took yoga for a while like three weeks my wife was like yoga you could do yoga let's just do yoga together i did and the yoga instructor said to me because we were doing like you know uh you know a plank yeah and uh

she came and all i remember is her waking me up and saying i think you're the only person i've ever

ever taught that fell asleep in yoga.

And I'm like, it's just so relaxing.

Just let me sleep.

Just let me sleep.

That's interesting, especially listening that you did yoga.

Is there any footage of that?

Is there any video of that we can do?

No, there's not.

I mean, that'd be good for you.

You had to do pegboard, five trips of pegboard.

And I think that's when you have the two like pegs.

Yes.

And then

you have to take it out and put it up, right?

And climb.

That's

a ninja warrior.

This is not.

There's no way.

There's no way.

It's amazing.

Try this one.

You had to do a 45-second handstand.

I've never been able to do a handstand.

Never.

Never.

I've been able to do this.

I am an elite athlete.

Try this one.

A man carry.

Five miles.

What?

What do you mean, a man carry?

Five-mile man-carry.

Is a man carry as obvious as it's?

I think it is.

You're carrying a man.

me that man

you got to carry me that man for five miles

i'm not sure i can't carry any man for any miles uh i mean if i'm a if i am a firefighter count on burning in the house you're just gonna burn you're gonna burn up in the house because i can't carry you out i could get in there and go yeah i'm gonna have to leave you

I'm gonna have to leave you here.

I can't help you.

Sorry.

It's also getting really hot in here.

I got got to go.

You had to do a five-mile jog, an obstacle course.

You had to swim prone for a mile.

You had to swim underwater for 50 yards.

Any strokes, two minutes.

Deep water front hang float with arms.

What is a deep water front hang float with arms?

Wait, wait, wait.

It's a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes.

What kind of

al-Qaeda PE class was this?

Who has access to?

Who has access to, like, you're in the middle of the country.

You don't might not have a deep water body nearby.

Are you sure this is their actual test?

This is the actual test.

This is the actual.

What is a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes?

Can you look that up?

A deep garage.

A deep water hang float is an aquatic actress

done in a deep end of a pool with the aid aid of a flotation device, such as a noodle or belt.

In this position,

the flotation device supports your upper body while your legs and torso hang freely below you.

The setup, what that can't be what it is.

I mean, I could do that.

That's just

a deep end with a noodle.

It's every weekend.

What are you talking about?

Can you bring a margarita?

Well, it's man, I could.

This test is no big deal.

What?

No way.

No way.

Here's the last thing on the test.

A vertical tread in an eight-foot circle for two hours.

No way.

Vertical tread in an eight-foot circle?

So you're in the water and you're treading water in a circle.

For how many hours?

For two hours?

Two.

This is not.

This is not going to be the test.

I told you this is the top of the test.

I told you this is the top of the test.

So this was for the ones who could do all of the other tests this was the top of the test

the bottom of the test is not that much better here's the entry okay

uh let's see pull-ups

uh

two slash six slash ten i don't know what that means push-ups 16 24 32 bar dips 4 8 and 12 sit-ups 30 45 and 60 broad jump

six foot six six six six six and six nine

to jump six feet

I don't even know if that's.

I mean,

that one is possible, Glenn.

Yes, I know it sounds incredible, but yes, that one.

It sounds incredible.

It is possible.

You know, I think we should have the average person Olympics.

I really do.

Oh, I really do.

I mean,

I would watch that every time because you'd see them coming, you know, and you're like, hmm, that one's not three feet.

I've given him three feet.

200-yard shuttle,

agility run, rope climb, 18 feet, hands only,

880 yards in three minutes, a mile in seven minutes, pegboard, six holes, a 50-yard swim,

40, 40, 50-yard swim in 36 seconds, man carry, 880 yards.

No, thank you.

No, thank you.

Look at what we've gone down.

That's the bottom of it.

And I don't think most Americans could do that.

I couldn't.

Well, I could because I'm an elite.

I have the body of an elite athlete.

You, yeah, no.

You could not.

Now, of course, you,

now in your, let's just say, and this is supposed to be for a high school kid, right?

So this is the prime of your athletic life.

Could you do some of these things?

Probably.

Go into high school.

Go into any high school and ask them to do this.

There's no way.

And all of the kids would be, meh, meh, meh,

Well, that's kind of what the reaction would have been.

I mean, don't get me wrong.

I would have been

there too.

And my parents would have said, suck it up.

Just do it.

So nothing's really changed, but

that's been the reaction to this proposal, too, of bringing this back, right?

Like

the media is covering it.

It's like, it's going to embarrass children.

You know, I mean, I do remember being like, I can't do that.

I'm not going to be able to get to the top of that rope.

That's not happening.

That's, you know, sort of life, right?

Like, sometimes you can can do things, sometimes you can't do other things, right?

Like that's.

That's why you have to learn how to injure yourself.

Right.

You know,

how many stairs can I throw myself down to not do serious damage, but enough to get me out of PE?

Yeah, you have to fake an injury.

You have to like learn from LeBron James.

Like act like you got hit in the eye and fall down and like

you were just stabbed over and over again during an athletic competition.

No way.

No way.

And you know what?

Honestly, if we, this is why we're not having sex with each other.

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You know what's really sad and pathetic, Stu?

You put either of us up against our wives, and we'd look really pathetic.

I mean, we look pathetic standing on our own, but put us next to our wives.

People

note that often in the comments below photos she posts, and I don't think it's appreciated.

Yeah, mine, mine does, wow, Glenn, how this work?

How this happened?

That's the number one comment when I'm in a picture with my wife.

Yeah.

Wow.

Not helpful.

Miracles do happen.

I don't know if you think you're blind.

She's blind.

She's not helpful.

Yeah, no.

Yeah, you know, it's just helpful.

You don't really need to state it.

Yeah.

But thank you for doing it because it really brightens my day when you point it out.

It does.

It helps me get along.

It helps, yeah, it helps me keep looking up.

But like reaching for the stars.

You know, my wife, she works out every day.

She's in very good shape.

She's tiny, too.

And so

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Right.

She's what?

She's like, she's four.

ten?

No.

She's like five.

Maybe a maybe five one.

Five one.

Okay, okay.

Tiny.

Five one.

Like it was ridiculous to say four nine.

It seemed like you were going into little person territory.

She's

that's in the threes.

I mean she's clearly not a little person.

But she did like a pull-up challenge at her gym, which they had like in a month had to do 10 consecutive pull-ups, I think it was.

She weighs what, like 35 pounds?

Yeah.

Not a lot.

You know, 100 pounds?

Yeah.

She got to

nine.

She got to nine consecutive ones in the challenge in a month.

Wow.

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So we have a story that you probably have not heard,

but it is raging in some circles, and it's about the United States giving money to a leader in the Taliban.

And now there's an argument of, oh, that was the right thing to do because he's a changed man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I want to get it from the horse's mouth from the acting president of the U.S.

Institute of Peace.

I've never even heard of that, but you pay for it.

It's the State Department,

and we're going to talk to him in just a second.

His name is Darren Beatty, and he is fantastic.

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Say hello to Darren Beatty.

He is a U.S.

Institute of Peace acting president, U.S.

State Department Undersecretary for Public Diplomacy.

Darren, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Darren, are you there?

Is he there?

Okay, check if he's there.

See?

Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney.

Trying to shut him down.

They don't want peace.

They don't want peace.

They don't.

They don't.

He is a big-time anti-globalist.

I got to tell you, what we're doing with the State Department, I absolutely love.

The State Department has been a big problem for this country for a very long time.

It's what's gotten us into these global wars, these endless wars, everything else.

And,

I mean, I don't know what happened to Marco Rubio, but he is tremendous.

And the way President

Trump is appointing different people like Darren, I mean, it's fantastic.

Darren, are you there?

Darren?

Something must be wrong with our lines because we are talking to him offline on the phone here, and it does seem to be working, but not coming through our

broadcast

board here for whatever reason.

Well, let's see if we can get that fixed, and maybe let me just talk here for five or six minutes on something else, and then we'll take a break and come back and see if we can get them.

There's something else that I want to really want to talk to you about,

and that is this flag-burning thing.

Now, this is not an amendment.

This is something the president is putting up in an executive order, and it has very little teeth to it.

But I

look, I understand as a guy who's putting an enormous flagpole up at my house today.

I mean, an enormous flagpole.

I love the flag.

I love it.

And there are few things that make me more angry than seeing somebody, you know, set our flag on fire.

For a lot of people, it's a punch in the gut, especially our military people.

And it has been planted on distant battlefields.

It's raised after victory, saluted in the morning or should be in our schools, and folded and given to the hands of grieving families.

It feels like spitting on every sacrifice that ever made this nation possible.

And the argument against flag burning is really simple.

It dishonors the idea of all of that, okay?

And it offends millions of people, including me.

It disrespects, I think, the veterans who bled, the families who mourned, the dream that binds us together.

However,

here's the hard truth.

Symbols only mean something in a land where freedom is alive.

If you outlaw the burning of a flag, you have placed the cloth above the Constitution that it represents.

You have made the flag an idol.

We don't worship idols.

If you can only praise the flag and never protest it, then it stops being a symbol of freedom and starts being an idol of obedience.

Now,

that's the argument for allowing it.

At least to me, because the real strength of a free nation is to

it's how we protect not the speech we love,

but how we endure the speech we hate.

And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this, and

the line they drew wasn't an easy one.

Freedom of speech stops where it directly, directly incites violence.

And that's the same thing, kind of, in this executive order.

You You can burn the flag, but if I'm not mistaken, but if it incites violence, then you're in trouble.

And that's true.

But it's the bar of inciting violence is so incredibly high.

And it doesn't have anything to do with speech that offends.

It's not speech that stirs anger, not speech that makes you want to punch the speaker in the mouth.

You know, it is speech only that provokes imminent and specific violence.

And unless it's that, the government doesn't have any right to

get into the business of silencing speech ever, ever, ever.

It is a hard line.

And that standard is really hard.

It's painfully hard because what our citizenship requires, this is civics, what our citizenships require

is that we defend, oh, I hate this.

We defend the right of your opponent to mock everything that we hold sacred.

Now, I want you to think this: you can burn a Bible,

you can burn the word of God,

but some want to make it illegal to burn the flag.

Where are our priorities?

You can burn the Constitution, the words that actually are the ones that stir us into action,

but you can't burn a flag.

You can't burn a Koran.

Can't burn one.

Can't.

Can't.

You will quickly come to a quick end, not legally, but you will come to a quick end.

I don't ever want to be like that.

Ever.

You burn a Bible?

I think you're a monster.

What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with you?

But

you have a right to do it.

Why are we drawing a line around the flag?

The reason is, is because we feel things so passionately.

And that is really a good thing to feel love of country so passionately.

But then we have to temper that.

My father used to tell me that I think this country needs to hear over and over again every day.

My father used to, we would talk to somebody and we'd walk away and he'd go, I

so disagree with everything that man just said.

But Glenn, son, he would say, I will fight to the death for his right to say it.

He used to say that to me all the time, which now leads me to believe I know where I got my strong opinions from because dad apparently disagreed with a lot of people all the time.

But that was the essence of freedom.

That is the essence of what sets us apart.

Standing for universal and eternal rights, like free speech, it's not easy.

It means you have to take the sides of those people that offend you.

It doesn't mean you have to agree with it.

You can fight against it.

You can argue back and forth.

But you tolerate the insults to the things that you love most.

That is so hard.

And that is why most of the world does not have freedom of speech.

It's too hard.

But our founders believed People are better than that.

Our citizens can rule themselves.

The only way you can rule yourself is if you don't have limits on freedom of speech.

So the question is, do we want to remain free or do we want to just feel good?

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It's too hard.

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All right.

Let me

let me bring Darren in.

Darren, are you there now?

Yes.

Oh, thank goodness.

Thank you for putting up with this.

I don't know what happened to the phone system, but first of all, tell me what the U.S.

Institute of Peace is.

I've never even heard of it.

That is a fantastic question, and I'll try to give the abbreviated answer because I know we don't have several hours this time.

I know.

But

U.S.

Institute of Peace is one

lesser known but quite important member of the NGO archipelago that was created in the eighties.

It belongs to the same cohort as National Endowment for Democracy and some other better

some other better known NGOs that really in the broad context of things and in kind of the sweep of things was created as a kind of reorganization of the government structure in the aftermath of the church pike committee hearings that exposed a lot of the dirty dealings of government agencies such as the CIA.

And so sort of a broader response to that government-wide was to create this NGO layer of governance with an arms distance, plausible deniability, a kind of chameleon character of not exactly being government, not exactly being private, in order to fulfill some of those more sensitive functions that had been exposed in the course of the church hearings.

And so

U.S.

Institute of Peace is one of those NGOs that had a particular focus on conflict regions.

But of course, as I think you suggested earlier,

peace requires at the very least an asterisk because they're involved in a lot of things that conventionally, according to I think most American citizens would not think should belong as part of the portfolio of something calling itself an Institute of Peace.

Aaron Ross Powell, so what was the thing with

this Taliban member that was getting money from us?

Right.

So

this is an interesting case.

This comes, so there was a whole saga of a takeover of the U.S.

Institute of Peace.

under

Doge,

and that's really a fascinating story unto itself.

Just to give you a sense of what these characters were like, they barricaded themselves in the offices.

They sabotaged the physical infrastructure of the building.

There were reports of there being loaded guns within offices.

There was one like hostage situation where they held a security guard under basically kind of a false imprisonment type situation.

It was extremely intense, far more so than the better known story of USAID.

And in the course of all of that,

they tried to delete a terabyte of data, of accounting information that would indicate what kind of stuff they were up to, what kind of people they were paying.

And in the course of that, Doge found that one of the people on their payroll was this curious figure who had a prominent role in the Taliban government and then seemed to kind of play a bunch of angles across each other, sort of one of these fixer types in the middle of Afghanistan.

The question is, what the heck is an organization like this doing having an individual who is a former Taliban member on their payroll?

It just underscores how incredibly bizarre the whole arrangement is.

And just to reinforce that, I think what's even more bizarre than having this former Taliban guy in the payroll is the kind of schizophrenic posture in relation to Afghanistan exhibited by the U.S.

Institute of Peace.

One truly bizarre thing is that one of the U.S.

Institute of Peace's main kind of policy agendas was basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated under Taliban leadership.

They had multiple reports coming out basically saying, this is horrible that

the opium trade has diminished under the Taliban.

We need to find some way to restore it.

How bizarre is that?

What was their thinking?

Well,

it's very strange, and it depends, you know, what kind of rabbit holes we want to go down, but the whole story of opium in Afghanistan and its connection to

government entities is a very intricate and delicate and fascinating one, but it seems very clear that the U.S.

Institute of Peace was involved in that story to some degree because their public reports, they had like a full-time guy on this beat of basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated under the Taliban.

And meanwhile, they're funding this former Taliban guy.

Unbelievable.

Now, ProPublica got this, and, you know, you guys released a statement on it, and ProPublica just completely whitewashed this, said this guy was a victim, and his family is taken hostage.

Was his family ever taken hostage because he was exposed?

And correct the ProPublica story, would you?

Well, yeah, I mean, the ProPublica thing, as usual and as expected, was a total joke.

I mean, this guy, I'm not an expert on this particular person's history, but what's very clear is he was a former Taliban guy, and he was probably one of these people who was playing all sides, made a lot of enemies.

I know that there were several kind of attempts on his life by the Taliban in the course of

various decades.

This has nothing to do with Doge.

I mean, he's a known quantity in a region and somebody who's made a lot of enemies, and

he was on the payroll of US Dutch Peace, and nobody's expecting something like that.

U.S.

Institute Peace goes in, and again, there's this sort of hostile takeover situation where the people are barricading themselves in trying to delete all this data.

And then sure enough, what's in the data, it's stuff like this.

These

random former Taliban guys making, I think his contract was $130,000.

This is the real deep state stuff that I think bothers people so much.

Look, we expect our

CIA to do stuff.

We don't necessarily want it to do it, but we expect it.

But when it's in the State Department, when it's in every department is pushing out money to NGOs to overthrow governments and everything else,

it's out of control.

It's just, it's completely out of control.

And who is overseeing all of that?

That's a great question.

I mean, I think, again, part of the NGO layer structure, this was, USIP was almost a cutout of a cutout.

A fourth of its money actually came from USAID.

So in many ways, it was a cutout of USAID, which is itself a cutout.

So there are many kind of layers of distance, plausible deniability.

And USIP, I think institutionally,

really perfected this chameleon structure of being able to plausibly present itself as government when that was convenient for what they were doing, and also to present itself as a private organization when that was convenient.

It's a very intricate setup that they had that was truly optimized for this chameleon character of of plausible deniable operations in conflict zones doing god knows what with american taxpayers money and it's just an absolute hornet's nest we have recovered that terabyte that they tried to delete and once we get things settled in in the building itself I intend to do a kind of transparency effort whereby release all of this material to the public

just as I'm doing at the State Department.

So I'm concurrently an acting undersecretary of the State Department and doing a transparency effort here.

After I eliminated the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the internal censorship office within the State Department, decided we got to air this out to the public.

So within the next couple of weeks, we'll have our first tranche of hundreds of thousands of emails documenting what they were doing.

I would love to have you back on to go through some of those emails.

I think you guys in the State Department are doing an amazing job.

Thanks for being on.

Back in a minute.

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One of my good friends, a guy who I just so admired, is Peter Schweitzer, or admire, I still admire him.

He is the president of the Government Accountability Institute.

He is the host of the Drill Down, which is a podcast.

He has written numerous books.

He's an investigative reporter, been on this program a million times, and is always way ahead of the game.

He's brought to my attention some land exchanges that are going on with China here in our own country, exchanges for dollars, and they are still buying up more land and nobody's doing anything about it.

And then there's a story today

about the 600,000 Chinese students that Donald Trump is letting come in.

Now, there's got to be more more of this story on why he's allowing that.

But I mean these are people that, if I'm not mistaken, and this is my first question, Peter, aren't these students, you have to be close to the CCP to be able to travel to the United States, don't you?

You have to be well connected with the Communist Party.

Yeah, that's right, Glenn.

I mean, look, the reason I think that Trump is allowing this to happen is because this is a top priority for Xi, and they're trying to negotiate a a whole bunch of things.

But I still think it is a mistake.

And here's why.

There are 600,000 Chinese students that come to the United States.

American students going to China is a trickle.

So this is not about an exchange of ideas.

You know, it's not like junior year abroad in Italy where you learn more about Italian culture and you remember it the rest of your life.

It's not that at all.

The students that come to the United States are screened for their political views.

Their families are screened for their political views.

Their Their costs are borne by the Chinese government.

So when they are here, they are functionaries of the Chinese government.

And if they fail to fall in line or do what they're asked, damage can come to their family, damage can come to them.

And the entire premise behind the student exchanges going back to the 1980s is that this would make the Chinese elite more like us, right?

They get to know us, they become friendly, they become more Americanized.

The vast majority of the hardline aides around President Xi were educated in the United States, primarily at places like Harvard.

So it's not working.

The Chinese leadership is actually more hardline now than it was under Hu Jintao or under Deng Xiaoping, and they're more Western educated.

So it's not doing what they claimed it was going to do.

So why is he doing this?

I think Trump's doing it because he is trying to secure

a series of trade deals with the Chinese.

He's trying to deal with them on the Ukraine-Russia war to Prussia-Russia.

He's got a whole bunch of things on his agenda.

This is a priority for Xi.

I would say one of his I understand that, but why would it be a priority for Xi?

I mean, he gets

600,000 spies here in the United States.

Yes.

That's correct.

And so here's what we know.

We know the Chinese students coming to the United States have engaged in espionage.

And by the way, they're not coming here to study comparative literature or sociology.

The

vast, vast majority, over 90% are in the hard sciences.

So it is stealing our secrets.

We also know, by the way, that the fentanyl trade in the United States, as we've talked about before, the Chinese are intimately involved in that.

A key component of the money laundering is Chinese students in the United States who are taking suitcases full of cash to Chinese state-owned banks.

This is well documented.

So there is a component to it there.

There's also a political component to it.

Chinese students in the United States have done everything from shout down speakers on college campuses that are critical of China.

There have been reports in California of Chinese students being bussed to places like San Francisco to engage in counter protests when people are concerned about human rights in Tibet.

When President Xi, remember, visited San Francisco, there were thousands of Chinese students bussed in there to organize pro-Zhi rallies.

So there's also a political force component to this.

Wasn't there not, weren't there two students or were they just scientists?

Just recently, they were trying to bring in really dangerous stuff and we caught them, but twice we caught them.

That just happened a couple of months ago.

Do you remember that story, Peter?

Yes, that's exactly right.

And so, yeah, these were scientists, but these are scientists that

oftentimes are educated in the West.

They take on research lab positions at American universities like the University of Michigan, as in this particular case.

And so they sometimes bring in dangerous things.

There was a report in Canada of Chinese students that were bringing in pathogens related to COVID back in 2019, widely reported in Canada.

So it's an enormous problem, and it's not really something that we are focused on.

Again, we are teaching, we are treating them as if they're German exchange students or Americans studying in Italy.

That is not how China views this.

They view this as a component and an extension of the state, and the students need to fall in line.

And if they don't, they're going to suffer serious consequences.

Donald Trump is so strategic, and nothing he does

is without several things down the line.

He's usually playing 3D chess.

He's way ahead of everybody else.

I cannot imagine what we're getting out of this that would balance this in our favor, but

we'll have to see.

Is anything being done on the Chinese buying up land?

I know you're on a big story now about how much land is being purchased up in the Northeast that is extraordinarily dangerous.

Yeah, so we're working on a report right now.

One of our top researchers picked 20 military bases at random in the United States, and he wanted to look at land records and say of those 20 military installations, how many have Chinese-owned land that is just adjacent to those military bases?

The answer, Glenn, is all 20.

So, this is a massive problem.

Land purchase is not regulated at the national level in the United States.

They not necessarily should be.

It's done at the state level.

And certain states like Florida and others have worked hard to pass legislation in this area.

The problem is, you have states like California, where there was legislation passed in the state Senate and the state assembly on a bipartisan basis that said foreign hostile governments, it didn't even say individuals, just foreign hostile governments cannot buy land in California.

Gavin Newso actually Newsom actually vetoed that bill.

So the problem is, yeah,

it was that narrowly written, bipartisan support.

Gavin Newsom vetoed that bill.

And I think part of the reason, frankly, is he's involved in the wine business.

He has land, vineyards in the wine area.

And Chinese state companies have been buying up vineyards in Napa Valley.

So it probably would have affected the valuations of his property.

That's, I think, one of the motivations.

And as we've talked about before, he has a, let's say, long history of association with people involved in the United Front groups and, frankly, people involved with Chinese organized crimes.

So the land issue is not going anywhere.

It's a major problem.

Peter, if I'm just looking at this on the surface, I immediately think back to what Ukraine did to Russia with the drones, where they were in these trucks, they were right outside the military base, and they destroyed things that

we in our wildest dreams couldn't have destroyed just a few years ago.

And it was because of drones, and it was a whole new line of attack.

Everybody knows that China is the leader in drone technology.

I mean, they are just way ahead of everybody.

If you have a drone and it's not, what is it, DGI, DJI,

it's not the best.

It's all coming from China.

If you have property all around the United States, all adjacent to our military bases,

that is a direct threat to our national security.

I mean, you could have a barn full of those drones or a truck full of those drones, and you could take everything out on those military bases quickly, and America wouldn't have any time to respond.

Is it deeper than that

on concerns?

Well, I think, yeah, I think that's the main one:

the ability not only to cause kinetic damage, as the Ukrainians have shown, by you've flown drones and you blow things up.

And look, even our most secure military bases are not going to be able to defend against attack like that.

You have the additional problem that you could do something more stealthy.

You could take drones

with pathogens, with poisons, and introduce them into a military installation.

So, yeah,

it's a massive, massive problem.

And the notion that we can't even limit the Chinese government or government state-owned companies from buying real estate, that that somehow is a violation of some constitutional right, as if the Chinese government has constitutional rights in the United States, is patently absurd.

So, this is something we've got to continue to address.

We're going to keep exposing it.

You've been on the front lines of it, Glenn.

And it's one of those things I think that people innately understand.

When you think about currency flows, when you think about money laundering, it gets complicated.

This is very real and basic and understandable.

Yeah.

Peter, as always, thank you very much.

Thanks for your hard work.

We'll talk again.

Peter Sweiser.

Thanks, Lynn.

Eva,

I got an email from somebody yesterday

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I'm giving this speech and I'm telling these stories and as I'm talking about history, I'm looking out on this audience of Prager U and the best, literally the best historians in the country were all in the room.

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A couple weeks ago, I saw a video of a young woman who was speaking at a forum and she was

talking about what happened to her when she was 14 years old.

And now she is detransitioning from that.

And the way she told her story, what she had to say, is so important.

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care

for kids who want to transition into another sex.

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Welcome to the program, Claire.

How are you?

Hello, I'm doing well.

How are you?

I am.

I'm really good.

I watched your video, and the story of you and your mom is so unbelievably compelling.

And especially since, I mean,

I'm a father of four.

And, you know,

I have children.

My children have told me all kinds of things.

And it is so hard as a parent, especially at this time when everything is so confused, and all of the experts are saying, no, your kid's going to kill themselves.

It is

what your mom went through, let alone what you went through, but what your mom went through, is just, I think, so universal to some degree or another.

And I want to thank you for coming on and telling your

story.

Can you start at 14?

What happened?

I can.

Yeah.

Well,

it'd be better to start a little earlier.

I

started identifying as trans

when I was 12 years old

following a sexual assault and

some pretty severe bullying that I was experiencing at school.

And adopting this identity gave me,

well, one, it gave me the ability to pretend to be a new person,

someone that this didn't happen to, and it also gave me an entire social network, a whole friend group of other kids who felt similarly to the way I did.

And

I fell into this social group and

started seeing

therapists recommended by the people in the support groups that we were going to.

And they made my parents feel like abusers for being skeptical, for wanting to take pause before like making irreparable changes to their child's body.

Did anyone say, any doctor say, hang on, we should look at the abuse.

We should I mean, this might be something that is tied to the abuse and to those experiences.

Did anybody say that and take that seriously?

No one.

No one.

My mom asked about the abuse, the bullying, all these things that I'd gone through, disordered eating.

And

she was told in no uncertain terms, no, that does not make a child think that they're trans.

That has nothing to do with it.

And

these are doctors like at Cook Children's Hospital in Dallas, a fantastic children's hospital.

So

they have credibility with parents, right?

One of the most well-funded children's hospitals in the nation, yes.

Interesting way of verifying what I said.

The most well-funded.

Okay, so at 14,

you were put on testosterone, and then like six months later, they're talking about surgery?

Yeah, no.

I started testosterone in November of 2018.

And by January, I was approved for surgery.

It didn't happen until

June, but that was just because we wanted to wait until the summer between my eighth and ninth grade years.

Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my gosh.

That's pretty young.

You're not legal to do anything at that point.

Right.

I couldn't get a learner's permit.

So

what did they tell you about the surgery and what didn't they tell you about the surgery?

Well, they told me that I was transgender, that I had gender dysphoria, and that

the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria was chemical and surgical intervention.

That if I didn't go through with this, the most likely outcome was suicide.

That's what they told my parents right in front of me.

And

they

didn't tell me that they would be performing a drains-free mastectomy on me,

meaning there was a significantly higher risk of fluid buildup and after rejection as a result, which did end up happening.

They didn't tell me that

it would permanently take away my ability to breastfeed.

They didn't tell me that the majority of kids who

look to pursue this end up growing out of it.

There was a lot of things that I wasn't told.

So, I mean, but you weren't told like serious, like, you know, pelvic floor dysfunction and urinary incontinence.

And

anything.

I mean, I see commercials on TV for

drugs, and they go into 45 seconds of all of the things that could possibly happen to you they weren't required to tell you these things

no they were required they just uh didn't they just didn't do it sec and the doj are uh investigating now

they're still doing it aren't they

uh

the

doctor who did it to me is currently being sued by the Attorney General of Texas for continuing to do it after it was banned.

So, when did you know?

I heard you talk about how when you know the double masectomy, the bandages came off and you cried, and everybody thought there were tears of joy, but you weren't so sure.

What

was like, when did you start going, uh-oh, uh-oh, what have I done?

There was always

a feeling of

sadness

surrounding my chest, but the

the narrative that they tell you in the trans community is that everyone kind of feels bad after surgery.

It's post-op depression is what they call it.

And that I believed that it was just post-op depression for around a year

until

what actually happened was a girl on my high school's volleyball thing got a breast reduction.

And I learned what a breast reduction was from that and realized that

a complete mastectomy was not the only option that was available to me, that things were hidden from me.

And that's when things started

tides started changing for me.

So when did you start trying to speak out?

Because they silenced you immediately, right?

They deleted my reviews off of

my surgeons' websites.

But

I started posting on the internet

in like 2021

about

what happened to me, but I wasn't fully woken up to the reality of the situation until

last December.

That's when I had my first public event.

And what did you wake up to?

That we're having children, that there's no such thing as a trans child and

no one is born in the wrong body.

That you don't become your true self by cutting off pieces of yourself.

You, in your story, said that at one point

you started wearing like a padded bra bra and you didn't want your mom to know about it and I thought it was

heartbreaking

how you were protecting your mom and maybe you didn't know it at the time but

can you go through that part of the story

yeah

so

shortly after I had the realization after I learned what a breast reduction was, I

started,

I got curious about women's fashion.

Again, I started wanting to be seen as a girl again.

And so I started wearing padded bras in secret, and I would hide them under my mattress whenever I got home from school.

And one day, my mom found one of these padded bras.

And she asked me if

she had made a mistake, basically, if all of this had been for nothing.

So wait, wait, wait.

Not if you made a mistake, but if she had made the mistake.

Yes.

Well, I mean, I was a child, and we all knew that I was a child, and that this was ultimately

not my decision.

It was there were many medical professionals and guardians who had to sign off on this.

But yeah, she asked

if all of this had been a mistake and I got really defensive and upset and I told her

that I lashed out at her and I told her that this was why I didn't tell her that I knew she was going to overreact and make it a big deal.

But it was a big deal.

And that's why she made it one.

And

you know, I didn't tell her that I regretted my transition.

I didn't tell her that I was

detransitioning until I decided to get breast implants when I was 18.

When you're how old?

18.

18.

And that's when you told your mom when you were sitting in the meeting for reconstructive surgery, right?

Yes.

Or going to the meeting.

How is your mom doing?

She's

doing okay.

We both live with a lot of pain and a lot of regret.

And

we talk about it a lot.

There's a lot to unpack, and there's a lot of wounds that will never really fully be healed.

But

she loves me.

And I've never questioned that.

She did this because she loves me and

she thought she was saving my life

so you can understand how you can understand how parents are just as duped as the 14-year-old

yeah I mean when you're sitting in front of a mandated reporter who you've entrusted with your child's life and they're telling you that you're killing them that your child that your child is cutting themselves and starving themselves because you won't go along with this this identity that they've claimed, it would take

a lot of prior knowledge of this issue and a lot of like very strong will to be able to

just overlook that, to be able to say, no, I know what's best.

So now the FTC is looking into

whether the pediatric gender medicine industry is deceiving families, hiding risk, making false claims.

And this could really be a big impact on stopping this nightmare.

What do people do to help?

Well, if you are someone who has been affected by pediatric medical transition, or if you know someone who has, the FGC is taking comments from the public,

submissions for people to investigate, essentially.

And if you need any assistance filling out that submission, the LGB Courage Coalition,

helping people to

submit those forms.

And if you don't, if you're not someone who

and you don't know anyone, spreading the word is a great way to help.

sharing things like the IWF documentary that me and my mom participated because people really believe that this isn't happening.

People need to know.

I want you to, I urge you to go to iwf.org, iwf.org, and

read and learn and watch.

And you can go there and you can actually submit a comment directly to the

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Claire, thank you.

Thank you for being brave enough to share all of this.

Tell your mom we pray for not only you, but also her.

God bless.

Thank you, Blen.

Bless you.

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that just heartbreaking still

i mean absolutely devastating

it's hard

to believe that that could be a thing that's happening in this country.

You know, it seems like

it's

either a psychotic horror movie or something you heard from like some weird pagan society of like, you know, it's multiple centuries ago.

It is, it is, it's so bizarre what's happening.

And I, you know, I've been saying, I think we're, I think we're getting better.

I think America's waking up, et cetera, et cetera.

I don't know, after the stuff I've seen in the last week or so

with the left and especially Gavin Newsom and what's happening in California and, you know, what this judge has just done in Utah and

how crazy things still are on the left.

I'm not sure.

I think we're making great progress in Washington.

I think

things are changing there and I think people are waking up.

But man,

I'm not sure if the left has changed or if enough people on the Democratic side are waking up.

I'm encouraged to see that their numbers are just falling through the floor.

But

things are changing for the better, aren't they?

It's easy to mistake improvement for a solution.

You know,

this is not over.

They're not going down without a fight here on this.

They're not.

They're not.

And they have not yet begun to fight.

The good news is, neither have we.

Neither have we.

All right.

Back in just a minute with more.

This is Glenn Beck.

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I'm going to tell you a couple of stories here.

And I want to tell you a story,

but it

I want to I want to give you real perspective on it after I tell you the story, because the story is tragic.

It's about a young girl that escaped the bombs and the shells and the bullets of Ukraine.

She's 23 years old and she had a very simple human hope

to live free of fear.

That was it.

She left Ukraine 23 years old.

She moves to the United States because she felt she was safe here.

The United States is a sanctuary.

It's where the refugees go.

Now let me take you on a warm Friday night.

Last Friday, Charlotte, North Carolina.

It's about 10 o'clock at night.

The East West Boulevard, there's a light rail station.

She was there.

We're not sure if she was on the train or on the platform.

We know she was found on the platform.

She had been repeatedly, violently stabbed.

And

her life, her hopes, her journey bled out on the platform there where she was just seeking a ride home.

That's it.

We caught the guy.

We don't have a motive yet.

We don't exactly know exactly what happened.

But he's not a stranger to courtrooms or handcuffs.

His name is De Carlos Brown Jr.

He's 34 years old.

He's homeless.

He has a criminal record stretching back more than 10 years.

Felony, larceny, robbery with a deadly weapon, communicating threats.

He served 10 years behind bars and still

he was able to walk the streets.

And what's really tragic is he has a history of deep mental illness.

There was a welfare check just a couple of months ago, and police came, and he told the officers he believed a man-made material had been implanted in his body, controlling his movements, his eating, even his speech.

Police said there's, I mean, this is nothing police can do.

That's a medical issue.

You have to see the doctor.

He wasn't taken in.

He wasn't held, nothing.

And on that Friday night on that platform, life and death met.

Police did what they always do: they put the police tape around the platform.

Cameras showed up, captured the glow of the red and the blue lights flashing against the steel train cars.

As I said, the officers can't tell you where it began,

the train, the platform nearby.

They only knew she died there.

He's been charged with first-degree murder.

Her family,

I mean, it's unspeakable.

America was a place she flew to for a new beginning, and it became a place where her story ended.

And the truth is,

it doesn't matter where you are.

Sometimes it's not the war zones, you know, abroad, but the violence that we've allowed to fester here at home that destroys the innocent.

Now,

I go through story after story after story every day to figure out what to tell you, to figure out how can I share something with you that will give you perspective, how can I help you have a little bit of strength

during the week.

I look at my church as a hospital.

I really do.

Sunday, it's time for me to go to the hospital.

I am so battle-worn.

I have so many wounds in me by the end of the week that by Sunday comes, if I'm not at the hospital, I won't make it another week.

I need a spiritual hospital.

And

that's how I view things.

And

I view my job as trying to give you perspective, but...

But in times on days like today where it seems to be really difficult today, I got up this morning and I had to say some things that, you know, I knew many listeners are not going to like, but it's my job.

And to warn you of things and to show you horrible things like this.

Why would I tell you this?

Because I want to tell you this.

Sometimes it feels like the whole world is on fire, doesn't it?

You get online, you scroll the headlines, and every headline seems worse than the next.

And the crime, the outrage,

just reminder after reminder, we are going in the wrong direction.

What is wrong with us?

How could people be like this?

We're turning into animals.

All these horrible things.

And if you're not careful, and if I'm not careful, because I'm paid to go through all of those things and then try to pick the ones that I think are important.

If you're not careful,

you begin to think that's who we are.

That's all there is.

Darkness is winning.

But it's not.

And I want to prove it to you right now.

If you're in a sea of people right now, you're standing in a crowd, you're in your office, if you're in a car, just look around the cars around you.

Look around in your own life.

Not at the screen.

Not at the stories that you're seeing on TV or on your social media, but actual people sitting next to you, sitting next to you in a restaurant or at dinner at your own table, a neighbor who just waves to you as you drive by.

The little

slice of kindness that you miss all the time.

That's real life.

That's real life.

The news is going to tell you about murder and corruption and failure because that's what the news is.

Those stories do matter.

But I would not be doing my job if I said that is less than half the story.

We have to confront those things.

That's why I tell you.

That's why I tell you them.

We have a problem with mental illness in our country.

That story.

is verification of that.

And there's a million stories like it.

You most likely see it on your own streets.

Why do we have to stop this craziness on our streets?

It's inhumane.

It's inhumane to the people who live there who are decent people.

It's inhumane to allow them to be subjected to the insanity of crime or just to insanity.

And

it's inhuman.

to not recognize the struggle of sanity that so many of our fellow beings are going through on our streets right now.

We can't ignore it.

But don't let these stories be the only story you tell yourself.

Those are problems we have to solve.

That's not who we are.

You are still surrounded every single day by people who are good.

They're good.

By families who are still praying together, by communities that still help one another in quiet ways, by men and women who still will tell the truth, even though it costs them something.

Our biggest problem

is belief.

Civilizations don't crumble overnight.

They're lost when people stop believing they're worth saving.

And I can tell you with everything in me, this is worth saving.

And that's why hope matters.

That's why remembering the good matters

because what you focus on is what you feed and if you believe we're finished then you will behave as if it's true

but if you remember that the light still outnumbers the darkness you will rise you will fight you will build it's why every totalitarian government wants to destroy faith

because at least christianity and others too, but Christianity is our main driver in this country.

It tells you to be good.

To be a follower of Christ, you have to do good.

You have to believe in hope.

You have to believe in redemption.

You have to help the injured.

You have to see the poor.

You have to push back against the rot.

That's our task.

That's what makes you so dangerous.

There is rot in our institution, lies in our politics, erosion of our values, but that's not the whole picture.

The whole picture is you still live in a country where neighbors pull each other out of floods.

Miracles happen when bad things happen.

Strangers pay for groceries when somebody comes up short, where children still laugh in the playground, where love and quiet and stubborn everyday love still outnumbers hate.

Do you know that

marriages that last are the norm now?

There's so much good all around you.

Don't walk away from this today thinking, oh my gosh, the whole world is on fire.

Yeah, it is, but it's not the whole world.

And you're the firefighter.

You have the fire extinguisher.

You have everything you need, the protective clothing to not be burned by that fire.

So breathe.

And know that no matter what you see today on social media is not the sum total of reality.

Much of it is not reality at all.

It's the exception.

Real life, most of life,

is not the exception.

It's the rule.

And so it's a little boring at times.

It's goodness.

Most of life is still good.

Most people are still good.

And it's our job to protect it, to multiply it, to pass it on.

You're not alone in your feeling of,

holy cow, things are falling apart.

Do not allow others to feel alone.

You have to pass on, yes,

but look at all of the good.

That's how you push back on darkness.

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Glenn Beck will be right back.

Oh,

you know, as I'm here telling you, you know, there is hope for society.

I want to go to the, you know, the master of hope,

where we've all gotten so much hope over the years, Snoop Dogg.

Snoop Dogg, not exactly the one that you would think would be the one you go like, yeah, I can hang my hat on that one,

but you can today.

What did he bring his kids to a Disney movie or something?

Pixar.

Disney movie.

I think it was.

It was

a

Buzz Lightyear.

Toy Story.

Yeah, the spin-off.

Yeah, Toy Story spin-off.

Right, right, Buzz.

Speaking on a podcast,

he said he went to the movie and

his grandson asked him how Alicia in the movie was able to have a child with another woman.

And his response was, I'll edit slightly here.

Oh, crap.

I didn't come in for this crap.

I just came in to watch the gosh darn movie.

It screwed me up.

Wow, there's a lot of editing.

This, very few words.

I've tried to do this on the fly.

A lot of them have to go.

Apologize to all stations.

It screwed me up.

I'm like scared to go to the movies now.

Y'all throwing me in the middle of this junk that I don't have an answer for.

These are kids.

We have to show that at this age, they're going to ask questions.

I don't have the answer.

And that's interesting.

I mean, because he's not doing it for political purposes.

He's not, I'm sure he's not any conservative by any means.

No.

He's just saying like, this is, I think, the very normal reaction.

to families who want basic enjoyment, want happiness, want some nice experience with their kids without having to get into the biggest questions we have in our world, right?

That's a basic thing you should be able to accomplish with a movie.

I think it's a really hard balance to stay absolutely engaged and in the fight,

but

only when you're on the front lines and you have to be.

And in your real life, to be exactly like him.

What the?

Why?

Why?

Because that's where everybody is living.

They are not living on the edges of this audience is different.

You're engaged.

You want to know about politics.

You want to know about the everybody else generally doesn't want to know.

Okay.

They just want to live their life.

And if you're like me, I just really want to live my life too.

But we know we have a civic responsibility to stay engaged.

But that's the way I think to win people over.

And to also keep hope.

That's the average person.

That's Snoop Dogg.

Snoop Dogg has done things, I'm sure, in his life that,

you know, might, we might have to have him explain as well.

I don't understand what did you just do there?

And even he is saying, we don't need this crap with our children.

That's good news.

Can't believe I'm saying this.

Thank you, Snoop Dogg, or if I may call you Mr.

Dog or Mr.

Snoop.

Snoop Dogg.