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There's a lot going on today. It's Friday, and I want to start with the most important story of the day that is in our show prep.
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So there's a story in today's show prep that is so personally disturbing to me because I don't think people really understand. And this is everywhere.
And we have to have a conversation about what's going on. There's a story in the show prep that is all about this new trend of people thinking that they're Robin Hood, thinking that they can exact social justice.
Let me just give you the first few paragraphs of this story. Lee insists he's famously a very good Catholic.
He's a moral person. His mother raised him right.
And by his internal calculation, it's okay to shoplift from Whole Foods why Jeff Bezos from 2020 to 2022 Lee a 20-something communications professional living in Washington DC engaged in what he described as grand theft autoing from his local Whole Foods store he would cheat the scale at the, pocket spices, or take home four lemons in the self-checkout aisle while only declaring two. Lee has never shoplifted anywhere else.
No, no, no, not Safeway, not a local store. He's largely stopped taking from Whole Foods now because he moved into a different neighborhood that doesn't have a Whole Foods.
However, he told this reporter that there's one by his gym that he'll pop into and steal from from time to time. Now, Lee has weighed the ethics of his doings.
At one point, his guilt got to be so much that he needed to confess his misdeeds to his mother. Once he explained his reasoning, however, Amazon's market power, Bezos's wealth, what the billionaire has done at the Washington Post, mom came around.
This is the opening story of this long report. And get it in today's show prep.
Just go to glenbeck.com. This is a really important story that you should sit around your dinner table with your family sometime this weekend and share it and talk about it.
It shows person after person after person stealing from stores and justifying it with social justice. Not justice justice.
Of course not. Social justice, which doesn't exist in reality.
So let me summarize this article and try to share why I found this the most disturbing article of the day. Let me paint a picture here of three different people.
First, a man standing in the dim glow of a warehouse, a barcode scanner in his hand, sweat on his brow. He's been hard working and then a flicker of temptation.
This guy's name is Jack. He's not a villain from a comic book, no cape, no maniacal laugh.
He's just a guy who is really tired of scraping by and he's been inundated and living in this stew that has been in the media about social justice. And one day, he stumbles on a glitch in the system.
He can get a $10,000 TV for three cents. Now, he doesn't report it to his boss.
No, no, no. No.
He punches it in and keeps it quiet and sells it off. And then he takes another one, three cents, sells it off.
It's a little victory, right?'s a it's a victory for the little guy across town there's another unrelated story a man with a torch that flares as he and his fellow radicals set teslas ablaze symbols of a world they despise we've got to get away from that evil el Musk. They set fire while screaming for justice.

And a third person.

This one is in a dorm room.

A kid leans on Grok to turn out an essay.

He doesn't even understand.

He didn't read the book.

He didn't pay attention.

But he grins at the A's he gets.

All of these are relatively small acts, petty even.

But there is no need for it. but he grins at the A's he gets.
All of these are relatively small acts, petty even, but they're not just stories. This is coming from real life now, and they are cracks in the foundation of everything that we have built as humans, as a society, as a civilization.
Key word there, civil. They don't hurt Jeff Bezos.
They don't hurt Elon Musk. They're never going to feel this.
They hurt Jack. They hurt the radicals.
They hurt the kid. They hurt you and me.
They hurt all of us. How? Let's start with Jack.
Jack's not stealing from a faceless billionaire. Bezos is not going to miss a meal.
He's still going to have sex with a hot baby he's got by his side. Jack is stealing from himself.
He is stealing from each of us. He's stealing first trust.
Here's the first principle that Jack is misunderstanding. It's older than any religion.
It's woven in the fabric of every single human being, and it is the cornerstone of all civilization. Here's the idea.
You don't take what's not yours. Now, you can call that a social contract.
You can call it the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, whatever. It's not about Bezos.
It's not about his bottom line. It's about the guy next to Jack who then loses hours because Amazon tightens security.
It's about the customer who pays an extra buck for toothpaste because theft gets baked into all of the prices. You see, Jack thinks he's winning.
He thinks he's Robin Hood, but he's not. And worst of all, he's trading his soul for a quick buck.
And that's a loss no profit can ever cover. Now, let's go to the next one.
The Tesla is going up in flames. It's happening all over the country and everybody thinks they're a hero that's doing it.
That is not justice. You know what that is? That is envy dressed up as righteousness.
Gee, I'm starting to see a pattern here. I'm starting to see exactly what the left has told our kids is right for the last 20 years, all coming home to roost now.
You see, the radicals think they're striking the blow against excess. They think they're sticking it to the man with power.
But what they're actually doing is torching their own future. Insurance is going to spike.
Oh, now they're going to have to go after the insurance people, but don't worry, you can kill that guy as he's coming out of a hotel. Jobs that are going to vanish when companies pull out, and the air that chokes with the smoke of all of the batteries on fire.
And then the last one, the kid with Grok, he's not cheating a teacher. He's not cheating the system.
He's cheating himself. He is paying for an education that he's not getting because he chooses to cheat.
He's going to walk across that stage. He's going to get a handshake.
He's going to get a diploma. But inside the rest of his his life, he's going to be like somebody.
I hope nobody finds out. I'm a fraud.
I don't know what I'm doing. He's empty.
He has no grit. He has no wisdom.
Just a shell with a grade. And none of these are isolated.
None of them. They are threads that are being used by the left to weave into a tapestry of decay and all of us are woven into it.
You know, we don't even talk about Christian ethics anymore. The last 2,000 years, have we gotten any better as people? You know, Jesus came, he taught us all this stuff.
We still argue. We twist his words.
We argue what's right. We even argue if the guy even existed.
Theft isn't just about the thing you take. It's about the heart that you break in the process, your heart.
Thou shalt not steal. That's not a suggestion.
That's a rule. I mean, Exodus doesn't care if it's a TV or a pencil.
It's telling you thou shalt not steal because that act will corrode you and leave you with nothing inside. And then Jesus

doubles down and says, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Jack's not just a thief. He's a man losing himself, his soul, one glitch at a time.
the radicals they're not revolutionaries. They're Pharisees.
They're cloaking pride in a cause. Think of that.
And the student, he's not learning truth. In fact, he's not even going to school.
He's going to the church of his own building. He's worshiping at the temple called convenience.
You know, everything that we know, all these golden rules, all those things, it doesn't, when you break these things, it doesn't hurt just the target. It poisons you.
I don't believe in God. Okay, don't believe in God.
Let's talk universals.

Truth that hold whether you pray or not.

Every society from Athens to the Iroquois have known trust is the glue to civilization.

Why do you think these radicals who want to destroy everything are sowing distrust in everything? Because they know you can't build a city. You can't build a family.
You can't build a friendship without trust. Jack's theft, the burning of Teslas, the cheated homework, they are all termites in the woodwork.
They don't topple the house today, but I guarantee you, they will topple

the house, and the left knows it. Rome didn't fall in a day.
It rotted. It rotted until it

just toppled over because everybody stopped caring about the small stuff. Philosophers

like Immanuel Kant, he nailed it. Act only in ways you want everyone else to act well that's not Jesus although it sounds like Jesus that's not Jesus if every car burns out of social justice you know what we're all walking if you burn and destroy Tesla does that hurt Elon Musk? Yeah, but it also hurts everybody who has bought a share.
It hurts everybody's bottom line, and it destroys the precious planet you keep screaming about. If every kid cheats, what does that mean? We're led by fools with degrees.
And that's not hyperbole. All of this is math.
This is the way the world works. This isn't about the rich getting richer or the poor getting revenge.
Bezos isn't the victim. He's the least hurt.
The real pain lands on the invisible, the single mom that loses her shift, the driver who can't afford insurance anymore. And the revolutionaries love it because then they can rail against the insurance companies and burn that down to the ground.
What's worse, you go ahead, cheat your way through school. You know who loses? The patient whose doctors failed and faked their their way through medical school now they're standing there like i don't really know what i'm doing but i can't tell anybody because they'll all find out jack's theft doesn't hurt or touch the penthouse it hits and hurts the trailer park.
The radicals don't dent Musk's empire. They burden the worker who can't replace his torched ride.
And the kid, he's not sticking it to the system. He's ensuring that the system fails all of us when we need it the most.
See, here's the thing. There are things that you stand up for and you're a revolutionary

for. that the system fails all of us when we need it the most.
See, here's the thing. There are things that you stand up for and you're a revolutionary for, but when that is social justice versus justice justice, everything falls apart.
Defiance for social justice doesn't liberate it enslaves everybody talk about the thief himself jack the radicals the student they're not just hurting even society what's worse is they're hollowing themselves out and they know it that's why in the first story I gave to you, the story that this whole thing

starts with about the kid who says, you know, and I got felt so guilty, I had to go talk to my mom and tell her, but he convinced her his justification was so powerful that she agreed. So now he's got mom's endorsement as well.
you know this country became great in the first place because we knew there was dignity in struggle, and we learned it from the pilgrims when they came over, chased out of a country because they just wanted to live their lives morally the way they chose. They just wanted to dedicate themselves to the God of their understanding.
So they came over here and they struggled and struggled and struggled, but they made it and there was dignity in that. Dignity gives you the quiet strength because you've done right when doing right is hard.
Jack could have reported the glitch. Maybe it would have earned him respect.
Maybe it maybe it would have given him a raise. Maybe not.
Maybe then that turns Jack even more better. I reported that I've saved this money.
So this company so much money and they didn't even care. But now he's a shadow sneaking through life.
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10 seconds, station ID. You know, Jack in the store, the radicals out on the street, they could have been building something, but they didn't.
They decided to burn it all down. The students could have wrestled with ideas and grown sharp, but they didn't.
They chose the cheap way. And cheapness is a cancer.
Nietzsche, not a Christian, mind you, saw it. He said, quote, he who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
Everybody thinks they're so smart today. Everybody thinks they're beating the game.
They think they've got something new. They don't.
This has happened over and over and over again. What they're doing is they're losing their humanity, and then we will lose civilization.
Because civilization is not invincible. It's a garden that has to be tended by decency and it's choked by neglect or apathy.
When trust dies, everything else dies with it. The French Revolution devoured itself when envy outran reason.
Now, we are struggling right now to put reason and fix her firmly in her seat again. We're struggling just to have common sense again.
That's what this movement is really all about, restoring reason and common sense over envy. We're not immune.
When we let small things slide, we invite the big ones. A society where theft and destruction and deceit are all shrugged off, it doesn't stand.
This is why it matters. This is why everything you do matters.
This is why the small little lies in your life matter, because they all add up. All of our little lies add up.
Decency, old-fashioned, stubborn decency is what fixes this. Jack could have said no.
The radicals could have built instead of burnt. The kid could crack a book, you know, attend a lecture.

Look in the mirror and choose better.

Just do the next right thing.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program from KNRS today in the studios. I want to thank KNRS for allowing me to broadcast from their studios here in Salt Lake City.
I was in Miami yesterday and flew out to Salt Lake. A friend was having a birthday party and, geez, it was like the who's who at this birthday party.
It was a surprise party for him. And I walk in, there was like, I don't know, 20 attorney generals from, from, from all around the country and just really, really amazing people.
And I had some fantastic conversations about what's happening in Washington, uh, and, uh, things that they're concerned about and watching. And, and I'm going to have a few of them on in the coming weeks because, uh, I think I wish you could have been there with me having these conversations with them because I learned an awful lot.
But we'll talk about that coming up in just a little while. Sarah was just saying to me during the break, you experienced what I was talking about firsthand with your daughter.
Yes, it was a little earlier than I expected, but she's taking college courses and they gave her this essay she had to write about a book that was 500 pages if not more and she said that i'm just going to put it into chat gpt and i'm like okay thinking the teacher will know everybody else is probably using chat gpt at this point it's a college course so i'll just let her do it and see if it bites her. That's an interesting approach there.

It is. So you weren't like, see if it bites her, or you were like, it's going to bite her and let her feel the pain of it? The latter.
Look, I know I've had seven drinks, but I'm going to drive home. And I was like, I'm going to let her have those consequences.
She'll learn her lesson. It was shots.
Oh, it was shots. Okay, thank you.
Okay, yeah, there's a difference between a full cocktail and shots. Right, of course.
Give me some credit. So I asked her a couple.
Honestly, I was hoping that she would not do that and actually try to read the book, at least like even if it was Cliff Notes, you know? Right. That's understandable.
I mean, we had to work for it. We had to at least read cliff notes.
Yeah, I know. So I asked her later, I said, how did you do on the essay? And she said, I got a 90.
And I said, well, that's not good. And she's like, mom, it's a 90.
And what else was I supposed to do? I had no other options. The homework.
Yeah, read it. The homework.
What are you going to do? Make me actually do the assignment, Mom? I don't know. You know what's crazy is when she said, I got a 90.
My response would have been from her. Only a 90? Grok sucks.
Get over to Gemini right now, kid. That's the new parenting.
So what did you say to that I couldn't say anything you know I just have to hope that she

won't do it again and tell her

you gotta stop on the hope thing

you can do something you do realize

this right

I feel like

you told this story as a much more

responsible parent off the air I feel like

your version on the air makes you seem like

you're like ah I just gave

I gave the kid to Sam

Altman that's all that's it

Thank you. parent off the air.
I feel like your version on the air makes you seem like you're like I just gave the kid to Sam Altman

that's all. That's it.

What? So when she was

going she had at least a flight to an

island.

It didn't really carry as much weight until I heard

Glenn say that you know a

surgeon is just going to go for it

and not really know what to do and the patient's the one that

suffers so now I'm actually going to get on her

a little bit more. Here's what's going to happen.
And, you know, the important part of that monologue that I just gave a minute ago was that you hollow yourself out. You will.
I mean, I don't know if anybody. This is one of the reasons why I'm an alcoholic is because I felt like a fraud my whole life.
I didn't feel like I had earned anything because I didn't know anything. You know, I started radio when I was 13 and I learned the tricks of, you know, how to present things and everything else.
And there wasn't any like real, anything real behind it for a long time, you know, until I was about 30 and, you know, started to think and get off the sauce. And.
And some of the things that I was drinking away was I felt like a fraud. I felt if anybody knows who I really am, if anybody knows what I've done, blah, blah, blah.
And so you hollow yourself out. And so these kids are going to come up in a time where they're going to feel like, I don't really know anything.
I hope nobody figures this out. I don't really belong here.
And if you're a doctor, that's going to be a real problem. But don't worry, doctors will be replaced by machines.
But you won't be able to think enough to be able to go, wait a minute, that sounds like that machine is trying to eliminate me. You have to have reason and logic, and that's not something everyone is born with.
You have to be taught how to critically think, and that's what school is missing. School is making kids memorize stuff.
Stop with the memorization of stuff. It's the thinking that matters.
It's how to get kids to critically think, to ask. School should be more about the questions than the answers.
How do I question things? How do I ask a series of questions that gets me to be able to use my own brain to think? So you're hollowing yourself out, and on top of that, you are going to pay a heavy price. At point or another, you will pay a heavy price.
What's what they're finding in colleges now is colleges like Harvard, they're having to offer remedial math now because the kids can't think. And again, math is not about the numbers.
I mean, it is in the end, but it is really about how to think, how to critically look at things and go, oh, here's how you figure this out. And so what they're finding now in universities is some of the best universities are now seeing the highest scores they've ever seen.
And these professors, they know, and they're saying to their own class, gee, you know what's

incredible is I've done this for 30 years, and student for student, you are the smartest class

by far I've ever had. I don't know what's in the air right now, but boy, as all schools are

getting worse, you are defying all the odds because all of you are getting A's on your homework. Now, here's a test.
I'm going to watch you take it. And as they do, they fail their tests.
So the professors are saying, gee, I wonder how the smartest class, when they're away finishing their homework, can't take a test and answer the questions that you clearly know because you did your homework. The answer is they didn't do their homework.
That's not just cheating the system. Why would you pay for an education and then not get one? Why would you pay for something and then cheat yourself out of it? It's like, it's honestly, it's like, it's like buying the most expensive package at Disneyland or Disney World and then not going on any other rides.
Why did you go? I thought you were going to go because you wanted to ride the rides. No, no, you're paying for that because all you want to say is, I went to Harvard.
I graduated from Harvard. You didn't want to experience anything.
You don't want to learn anything. You just want the piece of paper in the end.
That paper is worthless. It's worthless.
That's what we have to teach our kids. But right now whole the whole of society is teaching vengeance is yours get them social justice over actual justice get them you've been screwed your whole life others are keeping you down get them you take it whatever however you have to do it The ends justify the means get them you don't want to live in a society built by people like that but that's what we're that's what we're allowing to happen with our children the best thing you can do is don't a don't let your kids have access to any of this stuff okay as stew As Stu said, you know, you don't let your kids watch porno movies.
You know why? Because they'll have plenty of time after they're in their 20s to watch all the porn they want. I mean, that's one of the reasons.
That's not the main reason, but yes. Yeah, no, I know.
But, I mean, they make their decisions once they have experienced the good, once they have been raised in a home that has standards. They have a chance of going out into the world and surviving the poison that is surrounded by them.
Don't give them poison as part of their diet. Let them live good things.
Let them learn and use their brain. You know, you can't question.
If you're using Grok or any AI and you're just letting it give you the answers, you're stupid. You're stupid because it lies.
It cheats. It cuts corners.
It is. It's so crazy.
You know how God, we were created in in god's image but none of us are gods we're kind of a crappy version of of god we're like you know i've said this a million times if i were god right now i would have been hitting that smoke button every day all the time smoke smoke smoke smoke smoke i'm not a good godote, smote. I'm not a good God.
Thank you. He knew

that. That's why I'm not a God.
I am a reflection of him. I have all of the good things and I don't have the restraint that he has.
Okay. And we should recognize that we're not God.
So imagine that we are made in his image.

AI is being made in our image.

And it's not going to be as good as we are. It might be smarter, but that's not the end-all and be-all.
You know, in fact, smarts are probably the worst thing. I would rather have a kid that is not all that smart, but a decent human being.
A kind, gracious, servant of mankind. I would much rather have that as a son or a daughter.
I'd much rather be that than rich. It's easy for him to say he's rich.
Get him. I'd much rather be a decent person because that leads to real happiness.
That leads to something of value. That is something that is real.
And there isn't anything real anymore. And that's only going to get worse.
It's not going to get better? What's real? Computer, Earl Grey, hot. What is Earl Grey? I don't even know.
It just comes out of that machine and it's hot. There's nothing that is going to be real soon.
And the only thing that matters, and you know this, you know this. I mean, you can go.

You can be Jeff Bezos, who for some reason I've been picking on for the last couple of days, mainly because he is injecting himself with something. I don't know.
But he's like turning into the Hulk. And he's like.
And he doesn't even look like himself. And then he's got so much testosterone in him now.
He's got the testosterone of a 16-year-old boy that he just has to, you know, be with this. I'm sure she's a wonderful person, but she dresses like a hooker.
And you know, he's just like, I'm going to have sex with that tonight. I'm going to have sex with that.
Okay. You're going to have all the sex you want.
You can have all the money you want. You can have all the yachts you want.
But Jeff Bezos, I can guarantee you, if he's not yet, he will be a very sad individual. Because none of that means anything in the end.
None of it. So how do we create meaning? I'm going to tip you off to a podcast I did yesterday.
Honestly, I don't know if anybody's going to watch it. I hope you do.
This is the first podcast that I have done. Usually it's an interview with somebody.
This podcast, episode 251, is the new God that could destroy humanity. And it's all about AI.
And it's not about how terrible AI is. It's about the questions that we have to ask ourselves right now.
And this took me a few weeks to put together to write as I've been working with AI and I've been thinking about the world that is coming right over the horizon that most of your friends don't even think about. I've been thinking deeply about it and I've been making a handbook and a journal on this as I kind of question everything and go down these rabbit trails on what's right what's wrong what's good for humanity what's bad for humanity uh and i i want to i wanted to share with you in a podcast form this new god that doesn't have a soul and and ask have you even thought of these questions so it's kind of a deeper philosophical podcast.

It's out right now for Blaze TV subscribers, and it'll be out tomorrow.

I highly urge you to listen to this and maybe share it with friends or even share it with your family.

The new God that could destroy humanity.

The Glenn Beck Podcast comes out everywhere tomorrow, wherever you get your podcast, episode 251. Don't miss it.
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We're talking about artificial intelligence. It's kind of everywhere, right? And it's doing a lot of bad things that we were just speaking about, and a lot of good things as well.
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Let me speak directly to Jack, the guy I was telling you about in this story, that is, you know, stealing from, you know, Whole Foods because stick it to the man. Let me say, if you're one of these people, you're not a lost cause.
You're a person that can still turn back and turn around. And the radicals that are trying to burn down Teslas, you don't have to destroy.
You can still create. The student that is using Grok to cheat, you can still learn.
But it has to start with each of us. And as a recovering alcoholic, I know it's hard to say no, but you have to say enough is enough.
Enough. No more shortcuts.

You know, no more torches.

Enough lies.

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That's what society is trying to teach you.

You're just a pawn.

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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
Well, tariffs begin on cars next week. I want to talk to you about that and a very important podcast that I want you to listen to this weekend.
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I'm going to share that with you coming up. It's available now at Blaze TV and it's going to be available everywhere beginning tomorrow.
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All right. Hey, Stu, would you do me a favor? Would you give me a list of all of the car companies that are going to be hit by the tariffs beginning next week.
And we'll give you these car companies here in just a minute. But I want you to be prepared for something.
If you're in the neighborhood and looking for a new car, this would be the week to buy it. If you buy anything that is foreign made, this would be the week to buy it.

Because as of next week, they're going to go through the roof in cost. 25% tariff on all foreign made cars.
And already, if you go into a showroom this weekend, you're probably going to have a hard time getting it or doing any kind of negotiation on it because they're going to charge a full price because the business of selling foreign cars right now is at a peak because everybody who wanted to buy a foreign car is in there right now going, I got to buy it before this tariff comes in. Now, here's a part that I want you to really understand.
This is going to do what COVID did to used cars. So if you're thinking about buying a used car and you want a foreign car, then you better buy that one right now.
Because as of next week, when the price of all of these cars, the new ones are through the roof, most people are going to say, I'm not paying that for it. I'm not going to pay an extra 25% for that new car.
I'm just not going to do it. And so they'll stop buying it.
But if you have to buy a car, you're going to buy a gently used car, a pre-owned car. And those are going to become scarce because those will not fall under the tariff.
So it's going to be exactly like it was with COVID. You're not going to be able to get the new car just for a different reason.
I mean, you could, but you're not going to pay for it like that. Most people won't.
So you'll go out and try to buy a used car, but those used cars are going to become more and more expensive. I was just talking to somebody about this, and they were like, that sounds like a good investment.
Maybe I should go out and buy a bunch of used cars. I don't know.
I don't know if that's a good event or not.

But I just wanted you to think about that, that things are going to change next week, at least for a little while. And gosh, if you're a car dealer and you sell foreign cars, I feel for you, brother.
I feel for you. Hopefully, this thing will turn around quickly.
Hopefully, you know, Europe will break before we break. But it's going to be a tough ride.
But if you need to buy a car right now would be the time to do it. All right.
You want to listen to Glenn before we move on? So first of all, pretty much every company imports some of their cars. So that includes like Ford, for example, about 20% of the cars they sell are imported.
Honda is about 35%. General Motors, about 40%.
That's imported. So you think General Motors is an American.
General Motors? Yeah, you think of them as an American company. A lot of them, too, might be imported from Mexico, right? Right.
So it's not necessarily from China or whatever, but the highest percentages of imported vehicles sold here in the United States, Volvo is about 90%, Mazda and Volkswagen about 80%, Hyundai about 70%, and then Mercedes about 60%. So those are going to be the most important.
But you have to look at like BMWmw and doesn't bmw and volkswagen or is it audi they own like like a billion different brands then they just gobble up a whole bunch of stuff sure yeah there's a yeah each one of these companies has a bunch of brands under it for sure um so that is that's going to be the situation and remember too a couple things on tariffs like first of all, the tariff is on basically what it costs you, not what the final retail value is.

So it's not necessarily 25% on top of the, let's say, if it's a $50,000 car, it's 25% of $50,000.

If the car takes $30,000 to produce, the tariff's paid on that number.

So it isn't quite as high. So it's only 25% on $30,000, not $50,000.
I'm trying to be helpful here, Glenn. As you know, I oppose all of these policies.
I know. I know.
It's just going to hurt a lot of people. It's just going to really, it's just going to crush a lot of people.
Will it even go into effect is a big question. Donald Trump has more than half of the tariffs he's promised have been paused or delayed.
So we don't know if it's going to actually happen. Could be a negotiation tactic.
But you're right. I mean, because to your point, hey, let's start a business on used cars.
What if this tariff doesn't go into effect next week? Exactly right. I don't know.
Exactly right. It's so hard to tell.
But this, I will say, is the weakness of this approach. Because companies have no freaking idea how to run their businesses as of next week and by the way the reciprocal tariffs are supposed to go in to effect on april 2nd as well which is also next week so a lot of the stuff's going on we just don't know what it means yet and for any company that imports anything this is a real stress on how they run their business remember it's American importers that are paying these taxes, even though you wind up paying them eventually.
On the business side of that, they're like, well, what's my cost of business next week? Is it $100 or $125? I don't know. Don't know.
Don't know. Don't know.
I have a friend who sells foreign cars and he is just like, he's like, I have no idea. He's like, right now, it's a feast.
feast right now everybody is coming in and buying everything because they don't want to avoid these tariffs he said but i feel bad because you know i mean they they may not have had to pay the tight tight price that they had that they paid this week if the tariffs don't exist he said but they won't be able to afford it if the tariffs do exist. And so I don't know.
And he said, and nobody's really thinking about the used cars. He said used cars are going to go through the roof.
Yeah. So we'll be in exactly the same situation we were in in COVID if this actually happens.
And so we don't know. Go ahead.
Invest in those used cars. Yeah.
Go buy a bunch of them this weekend. And it's interesting, too, when it's not just foreign cars.
Like, for example, let's say you want to sell your, you know, what's going to happen if this goes into effect? Foreign cars are going to go up. The foreign used car market is going to be aggressively higher.
By the way, it's still way higher than it was pre-COVID. I mean, there was that spike.
I just did a show on this this week, which is all the things that change through COVID. Some of them spiked and came back to normal.
Many of them spiked and never came back to normal. We've never had, it's the new normal, if you will.
Used cars is one of those things. They're still way higher than they were before COVID.
And if this happens, if you were a type of person who was buying american before this right like i own an american car if i when i sell it it's the american car used car market that's not going to be going crazy right it's the foreign cars so the people that bought foreign cars before are going to be oddly rewarded with this policy when they try to sell their car on the used market because those cars are going to be likely more scarce um so i mean there's so many factors that play into mind and the other part of this glenn is almost every time this is attempted if you are let's say you're you're selling an american car you're selling your car for a hundred thousand dollars you're uh competition selling for a hundred,000. They get a 25% effective tariff.
Let's say they've raised their prices. They got to raise it $220,000 to compensate for those tariffs.
What are you going to do as a business person? Now your closest competition is $20,000 priced higher than you. Do you keep your car at $100,000? Or do you sit back and say, I think we can get 108, 110 for this thing now, right? We're still going to be way below our competition.
Why wouldn't we get a little bit of extra profit? That's why we need government to step in for price gouging. Yes.
Price controls centralized economy. It always works out well.
It's so good. It's so good.
All All right, let me share with you a podcast that I am doing this weekend. It's released now for anybody who is a Blaze TV subscriber.
The podcast is episode 251. Glenn Beck warns this new God could destroy humanity.
And I think we need to start asking some fundamental questions as we get deeper and deeper into AI. And it is coming faster than anyone has expected.
And most of your friends are not up on this. You are a way ahead of most people.
If you're listening to this program and you don't listen to tech podcasts, you're way ahead of the rest of the country that doesn't listen to tech podcasts. And I'm trying to build and give you information that you're going to need about tech, because even those who are listening to tech podcasts are not necessarily listening for the ethics of what has to happen and the questions that we have to ask ourselves before we go down this road.
And so I want to give you a couple of pieces here from the podcast and let you begin to ponder this and encourage you to grab this podcast this weekend. It's out wherever you get your podcasts.
Listen to this. This is the opening couple of paragraphs here of the podcast.
I want to talk to you about the objective God. I've always said that if God exists, he is the greatest scientist.
He is the greatest mathematician. That's who God is.
God is a God of reason and who is precision, but he also is many other things. But I want to focus on the precision of the watchmaker.
Think of a watch. You know, maybe your grandfather had a pocket watch, or this is a watch that's 60 years old.
And it is just a, it's precision. It's beautifully crafted.
It's finely tuned. And everything is in its place.
Imagine the precision of each single tiny little gear, the meticulous placement of the springs, the perfect alignment of the hand sweeping across the face. There are watches now that are made by hand that take one person a year to make.
This, just this watch, didn't just happen. It's just like I put a bunch of stuff in a box, shook it up, and boy, look at this watch.
It requires a designer. It requires intellect, a mind, an architect.
Now, a watch is complex but not compared to the universe. Now let's look at the universe.
The vast, endless cosmos that is above us. Our earth is spinning just fast enough to generate a stable atmosphere, but not so fast that we are flung out into space.
Our moon is positioned so perfectly that it stabilizes our planet's axis, our tides, even the tides within our own bodies. And our own bodies are miracles.
The way we regulate temperature, the way it heals wounds, experiences love. That's a biochemical cocktail that is so exact that even the most advanced neuroscience cannot fully explain how all of this works.
Just love, even. And in the world, we are told this is an accident.
Now, you believe whatever you want about God, but this is where they lose me, because randomness does not create order. It goes the other way.
Randomness creates chaos. It doesn't build watches.
It doesn't write a symphony. It doesn't paint the ceiling of a Sistine Chapel or send a man to the moon.
It's not random. Randomness is what happens when a child spills a bucket of Legos.
Never does your child spill a bucket of Legos and you're like, oh my gosh, look, he spilled it and it all just assembled itself into the Eiffel Tower. It doesn't.
Everything was created first here. Everything was created by a creator.
And so we arrive at our first critical question. And it's not, does God exist? But rather, honestly, how could he not? That's from the podcast.
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I want to go back to the podcast that is coming out and is out for Blaze TV subscribers now. You can get it tomorrow wherever you get your podcast.
I'm interested to see how many people connect with this because it is different as a podcast. And it's kind of the deep questions that I think that we all need to be asking ourselves because believe it or not, we are all, you know, scientists are now trying to make a God.
Listen. If human beings are made in the image of God, then maybe AI is being made in the image of human beings.

How about this one?

We're not trying to create humans.

We're trying to create a God.

Oof.

Now, let's just say we're trying to create something that is being made in the image of human beings.

It's going to be a shadow of the shadow of God at best. And at worst, it will be the darkest parts of humanity come to life.
It already lies. I mean, I'm using AI all the time to work, to research, to figure things out, to try to grapple with some of these ethics because I don't want Silicon Valley to tell me what the ethics should be.
I want to know what they are. And I'm already finding it's lazy, just like humans.
It will lie, just like humans. It will make stuff up.
Researchers have found that it even conspires. It will be dominating.
It will be self-serving and it will be cruel. It will be the lowest dust of man without the breath of God.
If it escapes our notice that it is simply a tool that we put back into the box. The creators of AI, they don't know that.
They don't realize just how far man's creations are from God's design.

Instead, they believe that although God didn't create them, they can create God.

Gollum, Frankenstein, Pandora's box,

Vicarious flying too close to the sun.

It's the same story over and over again.

Man, in his arrogance, creates something beyond his control, even beyond his understanding. And isn't that what we're doing right now? You know, this amazing AI, we don't even know how it works.
We've built a neural network. And just like the brain, we have no idea.
You know, it's teaching itself languages. No one taught it.
Somehow or another, they have no idea how this works. You'll teach it a bunch of languages, and then something will pop up in a completely different language that it's never seen before.
And somehow or another, it knows what that language is. How? We don't know.
Somehow or another, we have managed to muster more hubris than the men who thought they could build a tower to heaven. With artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, which is right around the corner, and artificial super intelligence, we don't want to just reach heaven.
We want to conquer it. Like our ancient ancestors, we want to build idols.
We want to create gods. That's not hyperbole.
That is something I know firsthand for a fact. Some of the people who are at the highest levels of creating AI and super AI, they want to be in the presence of what they deem will be a god.
It's a great podcast. You don't want to miss it.
It's available everywhere tomorrow. All right.
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It's Friday. Lori, welcome.
Hello, Lori. Hi, thank you.
You bet. Good morning.
Thanks for holding. Oh, yeah, no problem.

Actually, since I started holding, you've brought up like religious epistemology with like the teleological argument for creation or, you know, a creator. And like Old Testament downfall with idol worship.
Right. I'm like, oh, something light for Friday.
Get get my podcast. Yeah.
But but really, this is this call is about about AI within education.

Yeah. And my own child was dinged for plagiarism.
and while other kids were using AI,

my child, and they didn't get,

they were all like like high achievers. So, again, like with the hubris argument, right, like the teacher didn't even look like, oh, great.
It's so and so. And that person always gets good grades.
Mine was working really hard to impress the teacher and work hours and hours and hours. And I was in with my child and my kid got dinged for plagiarism when that wasn't even the case.
And it just... You mean plagiarism through AI? Just plagiarism in general, even though there was no proof, but because everybody else used AI and tweaked a word or two, they worked for half an hour on their project.

My kid worked eight to 12 hours.

I mean, really, really hard, but then was told, oh, well, that couldn't be your work because your work is never that good. So it just, I feel like it disincentivizes like the media, like the less than high achievers, sort of the average achievers, because then they can go, well, if that's what you expect,

then I'm going to use AI because what's the point of working hard on my own? And it was really just a sad story. I bet it was.
But here's the thing. We have to find our worth beyond the grades and everything else.
We have to now be satisfied with knowing that we did the work, that we have grown, and we're better than that. And that's really hard to do, especially in a situation where, you know, grades are everything.
But I'm telling you, education and everything is on the verge of massive upheaval.

And if I can help that along in any way, oh, I'm planning on it.

But it's massive upheaval, and you don't need the systems and everything else that we have that are going to judge. All you're going to care about, all your kids should care about is their internal growth,

because that's what's going to matter in the end

laurie thanks for your call let me go to gene in new york real quick hi gene hi glenn hi um i i wanted to also talk about artificial intelligence um maybe a slightly different perspective that maybe will hopefully put your mind at ease a bit so um i've been reading this wonderful book called Morality with My Teenage Daughter,

and it is Catholic-based,

but it's a bit. So I've been reading this wonderful book called Morality with My Teenage Daughter, and it is Catholic-based education-based formation, and it is talking at this point of the book about our true conscience that we're born with and given by God, our Creator, because He loves us so much and has given us free will.
And so that is one thing that artificial intelligence can never replicate, which is the conscience and the ability to choose right and wrong. And I think that probably really frustrates scientists, because they can never replicate that, and so they will never be God.
They can try, but they can never. That is, I think, a wonderful example of God's authority over everything is his ability to give us that conscience and free will.
I agree with you, and I certainly agree that that is the greatest gift to mankind. However, you know, if you believe in a God and then you believe in opposing force, Satan, you know, that Satan just his whole thing is take away your free will.
That's why sin enslaves you, um, because it takes away different things. That's why salvation is so good because it gives you back your free will because darkness whispers to you, you'll never be able to change.

You'll never be able to choose another course. And so it is a battle of free will.
While AI will not be granted free will, if you will, it will convince people to lose their free will. You will get to a place to where you don't know if you made the choice or if you were subtly moved in that direction by AI.
And that's the real danger. And that's why in this podcast, thanks for your call, this is why in the podcast I talk about, you have to make sure that you understand that it is a tool for you.

So you maintain your free will because that is something that you can't take for granted.

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The true danger of the world AI will turn against us in some sort of Terminator apocalyptic war. But instead the real danger is that we will turn to it willingly, trustingly, and only realize too late that we have just given up control.
Not just control, free will and our very purpose for being alive. That's another question you should ask.
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I don't miss this podcast because the danger of AI is real, but the possibilities, the glorious possibilities of man keeping it under control and using it as a tool to help us grow and help us explore is just tremendously bright. But the choice in the end is going to be ours.
can we, this is probably a sign that it's a good podcast because I have about 46 different questions. But let me start with the most recent thing, which was the most recent one I have is from the caller who called up and talked about her son.
Is there, because I'm with you on this stuff and I'm with the caller on this where it feels really dangerous to me all the stuff we've talked about especially with kids and this stuff seems really dangerous but is there an argument to be made sort of devil's advocate here that you know like the same thing could be said about a calculator or the same thing could be said about gps like people's map skills kind of do suck these days probably and the fact that fact that that skill sucks, you know, is bad, I guess, in theory of like some sort of EMP situation. But generally speaking, people just use GPS and get where they need to be all the time.
Right. Can't people use this the same way and kind of get through life without those skills? Yeah, they can, but this is not a calculator, nor is this GPS.
This is more like social media. You know how social media could be used.

The internet could be used for all good, but it's how you use it.

That's what determines, you know, I don't know of a bad way to use a map.

It's like, oh, man, I'm getting the greatest porn from GPS right now.

Right.

You know, the calculator is the same thing. Those two things will weaken your skills, but that's not what I'm most concerned about.
What I'm most concerned about, and I want to make sure that I think the future can be very, very bright, but this is going to be the hardest thing we've ever had to navigate as human beings. This is not giving you a supercomputer in your pocket this is putting a nuclear weapon in everyone's pocket okay so it's really it's a degree it's a it's a scale thing almost like a it's a degree of terror we're like yes maybe your math your addition skills suck because you use a calculator that's just one little part of life and it helps this is and if everything calculate right and if the calculator goes out uh you know you're screwed if there's no calculators on earth but the odds of that not of that happening are are not as great um you know but the the the rot the intellectual and moral rot that comes with social media, this is times a billion.
This is beyond your imagination on how it can rot. And that's why I started this podcast.
There's going to be a series over the next few months. But this is the first cornerstone and is the fundamental questions that before we get too much further you personally not society you personally must ask these questions of yourself because if you don't ask them of yourself and of your family you will be lost in the storm because it is a storm that is of biblical proportions that is coming our way uh what's the end game of this i mean are we looking at the uh award-winning documentary idiocracy where we're all giving you know brondo sports drink to our plants and not understanding why they grow like what what because it outside of a complete technological collapse which i don't know.
While I worry about it and you worry about it, I don't think the average American worries about that type of thing all that much. They should, but they don't.
Solar flares are enough to spook the hell out of you if we really had a solar flare like we did in the 1800s. Right, if you think about that.
But I think most people are like, that's such an outlier possibility. I'm not going to consider that in my daily life.

If this just keeps going and we keep developing these things and AI takes

over and all that,

what does that future look like?

Well,

I think there's two ways to look at that.

Idiocracy is one of them where we're just morons doing what we don't know,

you know,

but it doesn't have to be that way.

I mean,

you could still,

if,

if you use it, like I haven't had, I mean, I'm having a hard time sleeping because my mind is going in a billion miles an hour because I'm using it in the ways I think is is relatively healthy.

And that is to ask deeper questions and to ponder things that would take, you know, I can sit at a table, you know, a virtual table with some of the greatest minds and have conversations and ask questions that I can't have with, you know, if Jordan Peterson was my neighbor, I'd be having this conversation a lot. But Jordan Peterson is not my neighbor.
And so you can have really deep intellectual spiritual conversations and it will

help you think it won't give you the answers it will just help spur on more thought which to me is extraordinarily exciting so you don't have to be a moron by using it the the real the real fear of mine is we give up freedom of will. We give up free will.
We give up thinking, engaging, asking deeper questions. We give up.
We just surrender so much of ourselves like we have to social media and social justice, quite frankly. We've surrendered so many of our values and our principles just for convenience, and I don't know, somebody else can think about that, that we're creating this dystopia that nobody really wants to live in.
Even the people who are firebombing the Teslas, they don't have any idea. I mean, it really is, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
They have no idea, most of them, the world that they are creating by doing this. The same will be said by us if we don't pay attention to AI right now and go into it with eyes wide open.
We have no idea what we're going to walk into and create if we do it like we did with social media. how much of this, when you're talking about, because you discussed in the earlier clip about how we're basically creating a God, right? We are, and do we really want to do that? I would argue no, but it does, it seems like a bad idea to me.
I think you made a good case there. Thank you.
I think you made a good case. That's all the case really that needs to be made for me is no how much of this though is because i think we would blame technology for this we're like oh these these you know this this advancement these big tech companies were creating this god but how much of this is just connected to what seems to be an ongoing human process of you know the old god is dead theme right from back in the day with was it nietzsche right that's you go back and you look at that and you say okay uh we are creating these false gods because there has to be something and we're we are mentally killing off what the actual god and with a need to create that higher power that this is the result of that ongoing process that no technology is no technology is bad okay even nuclear weapons it's not bad technology it's how you use it and if you get rid of the real god you will replace that with a god of your own making And that could be nuclear weapons.
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And it's a sham that we now know really was covered up by our intelligence and our Justice Department and everything else. I asked Sean to be on with us now.
He is the CEO and the co-founder of The Federalist. Because I think it's kind of the same topic here.
We're talking about the JFK files and the things that, you know, we exposed this week on my program. And he wrote a great essay about what these files were all about.
And I think we agree, but he has a much deeper understanding of some of the other things that were happening at the time. So I wanted Sean to come on the program.
Hi, Sean, how are you? I am wonderful, sir. Thank you for having me on again.
You bet. You bet.
So I was fascinated by what you wrote in response to what we were talking about on the JFK special that we did, because you go a little deeper. And I think we agree that What the files really reveal is the CIAia's involvement whether they actually you know set them up to kill or whatever the cia was doing a lot of really bad things and what they have been holding back is uh trying to make themselves you know trying to hide the fact that they're just they were reallyfarious.
And I personally think the same things they were doing now or then they're doing now again. Do I have, do I have generally the right, the right take on your, your, your opinion here? Absolutely.
In my kind of fascination with the whole JFK thing came about, you know, I'm, I'm, I wasn't alive when he was killed. So, um, you know, I don't have memories going back to that or anger about that.
What bothers me is seeing how similar everything they did leading up to and after JFK's assassination is like a dead ringer for stuff that they've been doing my entire whole adult life. Um, not the least of which was the Russiagate hoax.
It is shocking. You know, they say history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.
And I'll tell you, it feels like I'm listening to the same poem or the same song over and over again in comparing different responses. It does.
Everything that we're seeing now, when I, you know, I was looking even at even at the fact that, you know, Donald Trump shuts down USAID. The same thing that that John F.
Kennedy did. He got in the Schlesinger memo.
Then he fires Alan Dulles. He says there's a real deep problem with a deep state in the CIA.
Then he disbands an organization that's out to help the world. And he says this this is just nothing but deep state.
Does CIA take in this money and overthrowing? And then that's exactly what Donald Trump does. He disbands the organization that JFK started to replace the dirty organization.
I mean, it's just it's the same story over and over and over again. And what I find so fascinating is not only is it the same story with the same behavior and the same lies, it's actually involves the same country.
You know, it was, um, there are a lot of people in government in the sixties who believed that Kennedy was a Soviet agent, that he was a spy. Um, that's why he wasn't strong on the cold wars.
They wanted, they didn't like that. He was trying to trying to warm relations with Khrushchev over there.
Does that sound like what the left and the corrupt intel agencies were saying about Trump and Russia in 2017? It's the same songbook. So what is it, Sean? Because it seems as though they just think they know better.
They want to control the world the way they want to control the world. And they'll just roll over anybody.
Is that the story? Or is there more to this story with what the CIA is doing and has been doing? I think that's the exact story. You have people who, whether I don't know if it's arrogance, misguided, sense of noblesse, oblige, or what it is, they think they are not accountable to anyone other than their own individual moral compass.
I mean, in the JFK case, I think we had three separate CIA directors who lied to Congress. We had Dulles who lied to him.
We had Richard Helms who lied to Congress. We had John McCone who lied to Congress.
We had scores of CIA agents involved at the time who lied to Congress. And if you look at that and you think, oh, well, you know, that's kind of crazy.
They would never do that now. Think about James Clapper and john brennan yes lying to congress they think

they are accountable to no one but themselves so isn't this the real isn't this i think you know um cash patel said to me about eight months ago he's sitting in my office and he said i said everybody's dead cash why why who are they trying to protect this point he said glenn it's not it's not who, it's what. And with this release, to me, everybody has kind of downplayed this is no big deal, and maybe it isn't.
But to me, this release has made it very, very clear. We're seeing exactly the same pattern over and over again, and nobody is doing anything.
They're claiming it's a conspiracy theory and everything else. And if we don't stop this, we're never going to get out.
We're never, if we don't hold the CIA and the intelligence community accountable this time, it's going to continue to happen. Before we got on the radio today, I was reading through an old interview with Jim Garrison, who is a New Orleans prosecutor who set up his own task force to investigate the JFK assassination and the CIA's involvement in it.
And he said something that it's almost like you were reading from this transcript. When he was interviewed decades ago about it, he said, look, they lied about everything.
The CIA lied about it. These people aren't accountable to anyone.
And if this kind of behavior is allowed to continue, you cannot have democracy. And if you don't have democracy in this country, this country will fall.
And he is exactly right. You cannot have an unaccountable paramilitary intel organization that thinks it can do whatever it wants, that thinks it reports to no one, and that its only sense of duty is to its internal sense of honor.
That is a recipe and a description of tyranny, not democracy or freedom. So are we going to be able, because I don't, I hear kind of a collective yawn on what's been released and what I think we're supposed to learn from this, are we going to, I mean, can it be stopped at this point?

Because if it would have been really truly exposed and stopped in the 1960s, we may not have had a Watergate. We may not have had a 9-11.
I mean, they're always going to fight back. But if we could have stopped it, a lot of our history would be a lot different than it is today.
Can we stop it? I think we can. You know, it's interesting.
I agree with you that people kind of yawned when the files came out. I don't think it's because people are uninterested in it.
I think it's because everyone assumes there were lies the whole time. You would be hard-pressed to find someone who's done any amount of research or paid any attention who thinks, yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gunman.
He wasn't working with anyone. There was no conspiracy.
And it's exactly how they all said. I actually think everyone assumes the intel agencies are entirely crooked.
And I think that's one reason Trump won this election in the way he did. I think people are sick and tired of it.
So I have hope, but it takes more than hope. It's going to take concrete work to tear down these corrupt institutions that are trying to destroy and take over the country.
So can I really go down the crazy trail with you? I think, you know, when I saw this, when I saw, when I saw the Signal thing happening, and I know that Signal got some of its first funding through radio free asia which you know trump has just put on the uh chopping block because it's clear that money's not going to anything good um and then you have you know the the woman who was part of all of the cia and state department color revolutions all over the world, who's now at NPR trying to control that as propaganda, was at Wikipedia, and now is on the board of directors of Signal. You look at that story and you're like, this is another CIA operation.
That's all this is. This is another lie and another gotcha from the CIA.
At least that's the way I feel. I don't know if it's true, but it sure feels like that to me.
My first inclination, anytime we get a new story about what's going on in the intel community or some new scandal we're supposed to pay attention to, I just assume they're all lying. That is my default position before I know anything.
And I'll tell you, I've kind of used that rubric for the last like 15 years. I probably should have used it for the last 30.
I don't think I've struck out yet. Like it turns out to be a pretty accurate way of looking at this stuff.
So I don't think you're crazy on that at all. I smell a rat basically every time we have a story about something from the intel community, because it always looks like they're trying to grab back power that doesn't belong to them.
Exactly right. So what do people have to do? Because I worry about, you know, well, let me ask you before you get there.
I was gonna say I worry about our president, But I now am questioningixon and i'm not saying nixon was a good guy but i'm questioning whether that was just a cia opera you know operation with watergates this never really made sense why would he do that but i'm not saying he was a good guy either so i don't know maybe he just did it because he was stupid but now that i'm looking at it the pattern seems to be the same with the nixon thing was was that a setup oh of course it was i mean you had the burglars who were connected to the cia and then you had the guy who you know was deep throat the super secret source who clearly didn't have an axe to grind or anything was the deputy director at the FBI. So like, I, of course you should smell a rat with Watergate.

And then, you know, roughly 10 to 15 years later, they decide to take out the guy who ended the Vietnam War that had been lying in their pockets the whole time.

Again, history doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme. Yeah, that is the one thing it is always.
It's the military and intelligence industrial complex that seems every time you threaten that thing. Oh, and I should say the Fed as well.

Every time you threaten those things, that is a line you just don't cross without serious consequences. And, you know, it's amazing to me that Trump has survived what he has survived, especially with the entire intelligence agency.
The whole thing set up against him over and over and over again. and then this assassination, which was completely just the idea of this young little boy.
It's just completely he's a lone wolf. How does he survive this, Sean? Well, you may think I'm crazy here.
Divine grace is the only reason he survived that. And by the way, he didn't survive one.
He survived multiple ones. I mean, we've talked about the guy at Palm Beach who was somehow camping out of his golf course for days and just happened to be super connected to everything the CIA and the military was doing in Ukraine.
Yeah, I'm sure that was just a coincidence, just like everything else was just was just a coincidence you know when people say that's a conspiracy theory i seem to recall that this was something back in the 50s that the cia said you know a way to stop people from finding the truth just call them conspiracy theories and rat people out as conspiracy theorists and that'll just stop everybody in their tracks and so now you have the population saying oh it's a conspiracy theory you're a conspiracy theorist and you're like don't you realize you're using the tactics that they came up with to to to make sure that nobody's talking about the possible truth it's odd it's odd yeah and they came up with that in the wake of the jfk assassination to to get people to not talk about what we all knew happened um it's it once you see it i feel like all of this is like those magic eye posters that were big in the 90s where you had to stare at them for a little bit and you could see the 3d image if you crossed your eyes just right. But once you saw the image, you could never unsee it.
That's how I view all of the operations and psyops, whatever you want to call them, that these people run against the American public. Once you've seen one of them, you start to see the pattern everywhere and it's unmistakable and you cannot unsee it at that point so is the is the is the intel community and and this deep state uh are they just coordinating these useless are these useful idiots on the street that are burning teslas and everything else are they you know people who are marked i love this one the people who were marching on the first day that usa id was shut down nobody knows what usa id was i mean and if you did know what it was you weren't a fan of it because everybody that did know what it was knew it was a cia front i mean uh is this just more of the deep state just using useful idiots? Yeah, and I think there's this, whether you want to call it the NGO industrial complex, I don't know.
But you've got all the money that's kind of on the outside from Soros types. Everyone likes to make Soros a boogeyman, and obviously he's a bad dude with a lot of money doing bad things.
But they've created this own little, almost like self-licking ice cream cone of organizations and street theater and shock troops that they see, you know, BLM, Antifa, all these protests. Nobody believes they're organic.
Nobody. So the only question is, where's the money and organization coming from? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be the same people who've been behind everything else for the last 30 years.
Yeah, I really thought as we were exposing it back in my days of Fox, that it was the Tides Foundation and Soros, but it was so much money that I kept saying, geez, these billionaires on the left, they really care.

No, it's the NGOs that are getting money from our government.

That's what's happening here.

We're paying for our own destruction.

It's really remarkable to watch.

Sean, thank you so much for all that you do.

Thanks for starting the Federalist.

Such a great organization.

And thanks for being on today. I appreciate it.
Well, you're very kind and generous. Thank you, sir.
You bet. Sean Davis from The Federalist.
He's the CEO and co-founder. You should read his work on the CIA behind JFK's assassination.
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I understand watching Snow White. This is the third time you've seen Snow White, right? Yes, Glenn.
It's the third time I've seen it. It's just that good.
And that's why I keep going back to the theater over and over again to make sure I can support. Mainly, I do it to support a free Palestine.
That's my goal here. No, I get it.
I get it. That's important.
I think all of us, and on our children especially, you know, when our children pick a movie they want to go see, they're like, I want to do the one to support you get free Palestine. And then you take them to Snow White.
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You know, the burning you know, just go to see Snow White and you'll be helping them out. I prefer the old arrangement we used to have where Teslas would set on fire by themselves.
That was a much more enjoyable situation. Now they seem to be all fixed and now we're letting them on fire manually.
I like the old timiness of the Amazon vans that just burst into flames and you can't put out. You know, it's like, ah, those days with Tesla, they don't come back.
No, no, it's very true. I don't know how a company survives this, like, with the amount of hate they're getting, right? Like, all of their buyers were left-wing buyers their entire time.

And then on a dime, now they seem to be all conservative buyers.

Can that happen?

Can you navigate that as a company?

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I mean, could anyone, could you, can you imagine anyone other than Donald Trump surviving what that man has survived in the last 12 years? No, including the bullet. No, I can't.
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Kirk Cameron is on with us, actor, producer. He is with Brave Books, and it's now braveplus.com.
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How are you? Glenn, it's so good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, we're so excited. Iggy has landed, and kids all over America are so excited.
And I'm doing my best to honor Mr. Rogers with this new kids TV show.
How old do you know? I meant to look this up before you came on. Do you know how old Mr.
Rogers was when he started compared to your age now? I don't either. I don't either.
But, you know, he had years and years. Stu, look that up for me, will you? He had years and years in front of kids, raising kids, and became this just beloved figure.
And I remember, I mean, you know, he started, you know, I don't know. I don't even know if, if he was around when I was a kid, I I'm sure he was, cause it was all black and white, the early stuff.
Um, but, uh, you know, I, I only found Mr. Rogers when I was older and I'm like, wow, this is weird.
Cause now in looking back, you know, nobody was that nice. Nobody was, now you suspect people that are that nice and so, and so sweet.
But that guy was truly an amazing, uh, hero, a godly, godly man and really a respected guy by everybody. He was 40 by the way, Glenn.
40. He was 40.
How old are you, Kirk? I'm 54. 54.
So he was 40 years old when he started this. And to step into kind of a little bit of his shoes must be a little intimidating.
It is. And, you know, in this show for kids, we're teaching clear moral lessons like he did, like forgiveness, lessons on telling the truth, lessons on overcoming your fears.
We're even diving into cultural and political issues. We're teaching children about the dangers of socialism and about the sanctity of life.
We're even having an episode, number four, it is on identity. And Mr.
Rogers didn't really need to talk about some of those things back in his day. But today we've got Disney's Snow White and we've got Nickelodeon and other shows that are introducing stuff like, you know, non-binary big birds.
And we've got all sorts of crazy stuff that kids are trying to wrestle with. So we need to address these issues in a way that's safe for kids, that parents trust, and that also ignites those little imaginations for the good and imparts virtue and faith.
And that's what we're doing.

We are pumping so much garbage into our systems.

I've heard you talk about, you know, it's like food.

But it's true.

We're pumping garbage food into us and expecting our bodies to work.

We're putting garbage drugs into our bodies and thinking it's going to work out well and garbage into our minds. And it's not going to work out well unless we turn this corner.
Yeah, that's right. And I'm actually really thankful for all of the weird, woke and twisted things that have come down, because in a sense, it's the wake up call we've needed.

And now parents are leaning in, they're waking up, they're speaking up, and there's an opportunity with so many things going on politically in the country with Trump and Doge and all these other things where all of a sudden these government top-down institutions are now going to be drained to a degree. And there's a need for parents and communities and churches to work at the grassroots level to provide better alternatives.
And so I think the timing of this is perfect. I'm so excited.
It could be the most important project I've done, and it's available everywhere for everybody to see. If you've got kids or grandkids, and you want to nourish their hearts and minds when they are in the middle of screen time, just check out Iggy and Mr.
Kirk, and it's on Brave Plus, the app on your TV or braveplus.com. And it's not the only thing.
Don't you have like Strawberry Shortcake? I'm trying to look. You had a bunch of stuff.
Strawberry Shortcake. Bob the Builder is on there as well.
So it's all these great character building shows. Yeah, that's right.
That's what's really cool about Brave Plus. We're not waiting for Disney to pick up the clue phone and figure out the stuff that parents actually want and can try.
They've created their own streaming platform and really high standards. So if it's overstimulating, that's as bad for your kids as processed foods.
If it's, if it's, if it's not underlining a good, moral, traditional American and godly values, it doesn't make the cut. But there's over 50 shows on there.
And you can watch the first three episodes of my new show, Iggy and Mr. Kirk, for free.
If you want to watch the rest, we've got a whole season complete, along with 50 other shows, like you said, Bob the Builder, Strawberry Shortcake, Madeline, so many great shows there that are safe without a second thought, and your kids are going to love them. So let's, can we just go through, because I really want parents or grandparents that have little kids to understand what you're doing, because this is so important.
We have to rebuild education from the ground up and entertainment, and entertainment that you can actually feel comfortable in leaving the room for five minutes. And you're not, your kids aren't going to be coming back and, you know, speaking a language that you're like, wait, wait a minute.
You're, you're confused in your own body. Why? Um, so can we just go over the first couple of episodes? First one is injured bird.
The lesson there is. Yeah, this is injured bird.
This is all about the sacredness of life, all life, including unborn life. And Iggy is essentially really upset at this bird that has snuck into his treehouse and is stealing all of his worms.
He wants to go fishing and and the bird is stealing his bait. What he doesn't know is that this is a mama bird who's collecting worms because the little chicks in her eggs in the nest are about to hatch.
And he learns that these little lives inside these eggs are precious and he's got to learn to take care of them. But then the episode continues on to value disabled life and elderly life.

And so it's a whole show about the sanctity of all life.

What an appropriate first episode.

Yeah.

So good.

Yeah.

And then episode number four is dealing with identity.

And in the middle of it, Mr. Kirk, that's the Mr.
Rogers character, reads to Iggy, the little adorable green iguana, a book called Elephants Are Not Birds. And this is a show about identity where culture, the vulture, tries to deceive Iggy into thinking that if he were somebody else, if he was someone other than what God made him to be, he would be liked and loved more by his family and friends.
And so we have this whole show helping Iggy to discover that God made him just the way he is, and that when he embraces who he is, then he can fulfill the purpose that God has given him. Have you heard of, have you seen any of the research on this or talk to any of the viewers and discovered something that you didn't know was going to be a benefit of this or something that you were surprised by? You're like, Oh my gosh, I'm so glad I didn't even think of that, but I'm so glad this is happening with the audience.
Well, you know, more and more data is coming out that is showing that children's brains are negatively impacted by most of the children's programming coming out. Because at the end of the day, just like junk food is designed to be cheap and addictive.
And most children's shows are the same way. Kids are staring like zombies at the screen because they've been designed to addict them through non-diegetic sounds that are put in in post-production.
It's not part of the world they're actually looking at with flashing lights and jump cuts every two to three seconds. It's a literal brain hack on your kids to keep them glued to the screen.
And they say nine minutes of that has measurable negative impact on their cognitive development. And so we're going the opposite way back to Mr.
Rogers, where it's, we take our time and we lean into relationships and develop trust and impart virtue the old fashioned way. How difficult was that to do? Because, you know, everybody in the media, they didn't start out.
Well, some of them probably did, but they didn't start out with nefarious purposes. They were just like, we got to get these kids to watch the show.
How are we going to do it? Well, if we add this and this. And now to go the opposite and say, we don't want to use any of those tricks.
That had to be a little scary. Yeah, it was.
But it's like you, Glenn, you're a guy who says, no, my bottom line is I want to do the right thing. by god and by my family i want to love people i want to champion what's good and true and beautiful and at the end of the day that's why i like working with brave books is that's really their bottom line their company they they they don't want to go bankrupt they want to make money but more than that uh this was an eye doctor who dropped that business to become the CEO of a book publishing company and now a whole media company because he's got kids and nobody else is doing it.
So that's why we're doing it the way that we're doing it. Yeah, it's scary.
But at the end of the day, I've got to answer for everything that I'm a part of. Kirk, I'm so proud to be your friend and to see what you guys are doing and what Brave is doing.
I just think there's just nothing more important than, than beginning the journey that is going to be a very long journey and generational journey, but beginning the journey right now to put things back in order. It is, it's the most important thing anybody can do.
And especially with anything on education. And, um, and I, I, I know, you know, this, but anything I can do, whatever I have is yours.
You just tell me how we can help. Um, because you're doing, you're doing God's work and you're, you're helping save the, you're helping save, not just the country, civilization.
You're helping save civilization. So thank you.
Well, you're so kind. You always put wind in my sails.
Amazingly so. And you're an inspiration to so many of us.
So Glenn, thank you very much. God bless you and keep up the great work.
I want you to go to braveplus.com. That's braveplus.com.
If you have children, grandchildren, you know somebody that has young children, this is so important and it will help your kids. We've got to stop with the Sesame Street stuff.
We have to, we have to, it's the stuff that is being taught now to our kids so early is absolute poison. And it's not what we grew up with.
You can look at all these things and say, well, but I was fine. It's a different world now.
It's a totally different world. And these are not the Jim Henson lessons that we used to get as kids.
And I am not against progress. I'm very progressive in the right ways.
I believe in future. I believe in making new things and cutting edge and everything else.
But we cannot disregard all of the things that have worked for centuries. The truth works.
And Kirk is doing a yeoman's job here along with Brave. So go to braveplus.com.
You can see the first three episodes free, but share it with all of your friends. Braveplus.com.

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Welcome to the program. I got to just leave you with this.
I mean, it's nice to see, you know, Jon Stewart joined the club. Finally, one of the things that's really big on social media today is Jon Stewart figuring out finally exactly how the U.S.
government is working. Thanks to Donald Trump.
Watch. States must submit a five-year action plan.
The states kind of go back and they kind of think about how they're going to do this.

And they don't just say, okay, you know, thank you for the money.

We're going to spend it.

And you can see how it worked out later. We're like, here's our five-year action plan.
Then the FCC must publish the broadband data maps before NTIA allocates funds. So having done the NOFO, the letters of intent, the request for planning grants, then the review, approval and awarding of the planning grants, then the five-year action plans.
In between that, the federal government has to put forward a map saying where it thinks we need rural broadband subsidies. And then of course, the states need an opportunity to challenge the map for accuracy.
And you can imagine this doesn't all happen in like a day. Okay.
Step eight is states must submit an initial proposal, an initial proposal to the NTIA. Then- Is that the result of their $5 million planning fund? This initial proposal? I this initial but then what was the five-year

plan and what the did they apply for that is what donald trump is attempting to fix that is true

i don't know that uh this is for some reason a surprise to john stewart but

we're all learning together boys and girls

this is glenn beck