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Speaker 3 three tales, really. Three tales.
I saw a story in our show prep, which you can get at GlennBack.com.

Speaker 3 And as I'm going through these 60 different stories, I thought the only one that I must cover is this one.

Speaker 3 And it's,

Speaker 3 it is what's happening to our society. It is about people that have decided that they can steal from any company because, well, I mean, Jeff Bezos is rich, so why can't I steal from Amazon?

Speaker 3 Why can't I steal from Whole Foods? Why can't I burn down a Tesla?

Speaker 3 I tell you why and make a critical case that you need to hear. Also, we talk about the podcast that is coming out tomorrow on AI that

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Speaker 4 Also,

Speaker 3 Kurt Cameron joins us on a new show that he has just launched. He's kind of doing Mr.
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Speaker 3 And also, we have the founder and CEO of the Federalist on to talk about the JFK files one more time this week, all on today's podcast. Here it is.
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Speaker 3 the best of the blend background so there's a story in today's show prep that is uh

Speaker 3 is so personally disturbing to me because i don't think people really understand and this is everywhere and we have to have a conversation about what's going on There's a story in the show prep that is all about this new trend of people thinking that they're Robin Hood, thinking that they can exact social justice.

Speaker 3 Let me just give you the first few paragraphs of this story. Lee insists he's famously a very good Catholic.
He's a moral person. His mother raised him right.

Speaker 3 And by his internal calculation, it's okay to shoplift from Whole Foods.

Speaker 3 Why?

Speaker 3 Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 3 From 2020 to 2022, Lee, a 20-something communications professional living in Washington, D.C., engaged in what he described as grand theft autoing from his local Whole Foods store.

Speaker 3 He would cheat the scale at the hot bar, pocket spices, or take home four lemons in the self-checkout aisle while only declaring two. Lee has never shoplifted anywhere else.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, not Safeway, not a local store. He's largely stopped taking from Whole Foods now because he moved into a different neighborhood that doesn't have Whole Foods.

Speaker 3 However, he told this reporter that there's one by his gym that he'll pop into and steal from from time to time. Now, Lee has weighed the ethics of his doings.
At one point, his guilt

Speaker 3 got to be so much that he needed to confess his misdeeds to his mother.

Speaker 3 Once he explained his reasoning, however, Amazon's market power, Bezos' wealth, what the billionaire has done at the Washington Post, mom came around.

Speaker 3 This is the opening story of

Speaker 3 this long report.

Speaker 3 And get it in today's show prep, just go to Glenbeck.com.

Speaker 3 This is a really important story that you should sit around your dinner table with your family sometime this weekend and share it and talk about it.

Speaker 3 It shows person after person after person stealing from stores and justifying it with social justice. Not justice justice, of course not.
Social justice, which doesn't exist in reality.

Speaker 3 So let me summarize this article and try to share why I found this the most disturbing article of the day. Let me paint a picture here of three different people.

Speaker 3 First, a man standing in the dim glow of a warehouse, a barcode scanner in his hand, sweat on his brow. He has been hard working.
And then a flicker of temptation.

Speaker 3 This guy's name is Jack. He's not a villain from a comic book, no cape, no maniacal laugh.
He's just a guy who is really tired of scraping by.

Speaker 3 And he's been inundated and living in this stew that has been in the media about social justice. And one day, he stumbles on a glitch in the system.
He can get a $10,000 TV for three cents.

Speaker 3 Now, he doesn't report it to his boss. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 No, he punches it in and keeps it quiet and sells it off. And then he takes another one, three cents, sells it off.
It's a little victory, right? It's a victory for the little guy.

Speaker 3 Across town, there's another unrelated story, a man with a torch that flares as he and his fellow radicals set Teslas ablaze. Symbols of a world they despise.

Speaker 3 We've got to get away from that evil Elon Musk. They set fire while screaming for justice.

Speaker 3 And a third person.

Speaker 3 This one is in a dorm room. A kid leans on Grok to turn out an essay.
He doesn't even understand. He didn't read the book.
He didn't pay attention. But he grins at the A's he gets.

Speaker 3 All of these are relatively small acts, petty, even.

Speaker 3 But they're not just stories. This is coming from real life now, and they are cracks in the foundation everything that we have built as humans, as a society, as a civilization.
Key word there, civil.

Speaker 3 They don't hurt Jeff Bezos. They don't hurt Elon Musk.
They're never going to feel this. They hurt Jack.
They hurt the radicals. They hurt the kid.
They hurt you and me. They hurt all of us.

Speaker 3 How? Well, let's start with Jack. Jack's not stealing from a faceless billionaire.
Bezos is not going to miss a meal. He's so going to have sex with a hot baby's got by his side.

Speaker 3 Jack is stealing from himself. He is stealing from each of us.
He's stealing first trust.

Speaker 3 Here's the first principle that Jack is misunderstanding. It's older than any religion.
It's woven in the fabric of every single human being, and it is the cornerstone of all civilization.

Speaker 3 Here's Here's the idea. You don't take what's not yours.

Speaker 3 Now you can call that a social contract. You can call it the golden rule.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, whatever. It's not about Bezos.
It's not about his bottom line.

Speaker 3 It's about the guy next to Jack who then loses hours because Amazon tightens security.

Speaker 3 It's about the customer who pays an extra buck for toothpaste because theft gets baked into all of the prices. You see, Jack thinks he's winning.
He thinks he's Robin Hood, but he's not.

Speaker 3 And worst of all, he's trading his soul for a quick buck.

Speaker 3 And that's a loss no profit can ever cover.

Speaker 3 Now, let's go to the next one. The Tesla is going up in flames.
It's happening all over the country, and everybody thinks they're a hero that's doing it.

Speaker 3 That is not justice. You know what that is? That is envy dressed up as righteousness.

Speaker 3 Gee, I'm starting to see a pattern here. I'm starting to see exactly what the left has told our kids is right for the last 20 years, all coming home to roost now.

Speaker 3 You see, the radicals think they're striking a blow against excess.

Speaker 3 They think they're sticking it to the man with power. But what they're actually doing is torching their own future.

Speaker 3 Insurance is going to spike. Oh, now they're going to have to go after the insurance people.
But don't worry, you can kill that guy as he's coming out of a hotel.

Speaker 3 Jobs that are going to vanish when companies pull out. And the air that chokes with the smoke of all of the batteries on fire.

Speaker 3 And then the last one, the kid with Grok.

Speaker 3 He's not cheating. A teacher.

Speaker 3 He's not cheating the system. He's cheating himself.
He is paying for an education that he's not getting because he chooses to cheat.

Speaker 3 He's going to walk across that stage. He's going to get a handshake.
He's going to get a diploma. But inside, the rest of his life, he's going to be like somebody.
I hope nobody finds out I'm a fraud.

Speaker 3 I don't know what I'm doing. He's empty.
He has no grit. He has no wisdom.

Speaker 3 Just a shell with a grade.

Speaker 3 And none of these are isolated. None of them.
They are threads that are being being used by the left to to weave into a tapestry of decay and all of us are woven into it

Speaker 3 you know we don't even talk about christian ethics anymore

Speaker 3 the last 2000 years have we gotten any better as people You know, Jesus came, he taught us all this stuff. We still argue.
We twist his words. We argue what's right.

Speaker 3 We even argue if the guy even existed

Speaker 3 theft isn't just about the thing you take it's about the heart that you break in the process your heart thou shalt not steal that's not a suggestion that's a rule

Speaker 3 i mean exodus doesn't care if it's a tv or a pencil It's telling you thou shalt not steal because that act will corrode you and leave you with nothing inside.

Speaker 3 And then Jesus doubles down and says, what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?

Speaker 3 Jack's not just a thief. He's a man losing himself, his soul, one glitch at a time.

Speaker 3 The radicals, they're not revolutionaries. They're Pharisees.

Speaker 3 They're cloaking pride in a cause.

Speaker 3 Think of that.

Speaker 3 And the student, well, he's not learning truth. In fact, he's not even going to school.
He's going to the church of his own building. He's worshiping at the temple called Convenience.

Speaker 3 You know, everything that we know, all these golden rules, all those things,

Speaker 3 it doesn't, when you break these things, it doesn't hurt just the target. It poisons you.

Speaker 3 I don't believe in God. Okay, don't believe in God.
Let's talk universals. Truths that hold whether you pray or not.

Speaker 3 Every society, from Athens to the Iroquois, have known trust is the glue to civilization.

Speaker 3 Why do you think these radicals who want to destroy everything are sowing distrust in everything?

Speaker 3 Because they know you can't build a city. You can't build a family.
You can't build a friendship without trust.

Speaker 3 Jack's theft, the burning of Teslas, the cheated homework, they are all termites in the woodwork.

Speaker 3 They don't topple the house today, but I guarantee you, they will topple the house, and the left knows it.

Speaker 3 Rome didn't fall in a day. It rotted.
It rotted

Speaker 3 until it just toppled over because everybody stopped caring about the small stuff.

Speaker 3 Philosophers like Immanuel Kant, he nailed it.

Speaker 3 Act only in ways you want everyone else to act.

Speaker 3 Well, that's not Jesus. Although it sounds like Jesus, that's not Jesus.
If every car burns out of social justice, you know what? We're all walking.

Speaker 3 If you burn and destroy Tesla, does that hurt Elon Musk? Yeah, but it also hurts everybody who has bought a share.

Speaker 3 It hurts everybody's bottom line, and it destroys the precious planet you keep screaming about.

Speaker 3 If every kid cheats, what does that mean?

Speaker 3 We're led by fools with degrees. And that's not hyperbole.
All of this is math. This is the way the world works.
This isn't about the rich getting richer or the poor getting revenge.

Speaker 3 Bezos isn't the victim. He's the least hurt.

Speaker 3 The real pain lands on the invisible, the single mom that loses her shift, The driver who can't afford insurance anymore.

Speaker 3 And the revolutionaries love it because then they can rail against the insurance companies and bail that and burn that down to the ground. What's worse? You go ahead, cheat your way through school.

Speaker 3 You know who loses? The patient whose doctors failed and faked their way through medical school.

Speaker 3 Now they're standing there like, I don't really know what I'm doing, but I can't tell anybody because they'll all find out.

Speaker 3 Jack's theft doesn't hurt or touch the penthouse. It hits and hurts the trailer park.

Speaker 3 The radicals don't dent Musk's empire.

Speaker 3 They burden the worker who can't replace his torched ride. And the kid, he's not sticking it to the system.
He's ensuring that the system fails all of us when we need it the most.

Speaker 3 See, here's the thing. There are things that you stand up for and you're a revolutionary for.

Speaker 3 But when that is social justice versus justice justice,

Speaker 3 everything falls apart.

Speaker 3 Defiance for social justice doesn't liberate. It enslaves everybody.

Speaker 3 Talk about the thief himself. Jack, the radicals, the student.
They're not just hurting even society. What's worse is they're hollowing themselves out.
And they know it.

Speaker 3 That's why, in the first story I gave to you, the story that this whole thing starts with about the kid who says, you know, and I got felt so guilty I had to go talk to my mom and tell her, but he convinced her his justification was so powerful that she agreed.

Speaker 3 So now he's got mom's endorsement as well.

Speaker 3 You know, this country became great in the first place because we knew there was dignity in struggle, and we learned it.

Speaker 3 We learned it from the pilgrims when they came over, chased out of a country because they just wanted to live their lives morally the way they chose.

Speaker 3 They just wanted to dedicate themselves to the God of their understanding. So they came over here and they struggled and struggled and struggled, but they made it.
And there was dignity in that.

Speaker 3 Dignity gives you the quiet strength because you have done right when doing right is hard.

Speaker 3 Jack could have reported the glitch.

Speaker 3 Maybe it would have earned him respect.

Speaker 3 Maybe it would have given him a raise. Maybe not.

Speaker 3 Maybe then that turns Jack even more bitter. I reported that.
I've saved this money so much, this company so much money and they didn't even care.

Speaker 3 But now he's a shadow sneaking through life.

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Speaker 3 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 3 So I think the last time Sean Davis was on the program, we were talking about

Speaker 3 David Weiss, who was the U.S. attorney in Delaware.

Speaker 3 And he said he had the ultimate authority over the Hunter Biden criminal case. That whole thing was a sham, and

Speaker 3 it's a sham that we now know really

Speaker 3 was covered up by our intelligence and our Justice Department and everything else. I asked Sean to be on with us now.

Speaker 3 He is the CEO and the co-founder of the Federalist because I think it's kind of the same topic here. We're talking about the JFK files and the things that we exposed this week on my program.

Speaker 3 He wrote a great essay

Speaker 3 about what these files were all about. And I think we we agree, but he has a much deeper understanding of some of the other things that were happening at the time.

Speaker 3 So I wanted Sean to come on to the program. Hi, Sean.
How are you?

Speaker 5 I am wonderful, sir. Thank you for having me on again.

Speaker 3 You bet, you bet. So I was fascinated by what you wrote in response to what we were talking about

Speaker 3 on the JFK special that we did, because you go a little deeper. And I think we agree that what the files really reveal is the CIA's involvement, whether they actually

Speaker 3 set him up to kill or whatever, the CIA was doing a lot of really bad things.

Speaker 3 And what they have been holding back is

Speaker 3 trying to make themselves, or trying to hide the fact that they were really nefarious. And I personally think the same things they were doing now, or then they're doing now again.

Speaker 3 Do I have

Speaker 3 generally

Speaker 3 the right take on your opinion here?

Speaker 5 Absolutely. And my my kind of fascination with the whole JFK thing came about.
You know,

Speaker 5 I wasn't alive when he was killed. So,

Speaker 5 you know, I don't have memories going back to that or anger about that.

Speaker 5 What bothers me is seeing how similar everything they did leading up to and after JFK's assassination is like a dead ringer for stuff that they've been doing my entire whole adult life,

Speaker 5 not the least of which was the Russiagate hoax. It is shocking.
You know, they say history doesn't doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.

Speaker 5 And I'll tell you, it feels like I'm listening to the same poem or the same song over and over again and comparing those different responses.

Speaker 3 It does.

Speaker 3 Everything that we're seeing now, when I, you know, I was looking even at the fact that, you know, Donald Trump shuts down USAID,

Speaker 3 the same thing that

Speaker 3 John F. Kennedy did, he got in the Schlesinger memo, then he fires Alan Dulles.
He says there's a real deep problem with a deep state in the CIA.

Speaker 3 Then he disbands an organization that's out to help the world.

Speaker 3 And he says this is just nothing but deep state the CIA taking this money and overthrowing things. And then that's exactly what Donald Trump does.

Speaker 3 He disbands the organization that JFK started to replace the dirty organization. I mean, it just, it's the same story over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and what I find so fascinating is not only is it the same story with the same behavior and the same lies, it actually involves the same country. You know, it was

Speaker 5 there are a lot of people in government in the 60s who believed that Kennedy was a Soviet agent, that he was a spy. That's why he wasn't as strong on the Cold War as they wanted.

Speaker 5 They didn't like that he was trying to warm relations with Khrushchev over there. I mean, does that sound like what the left and corrupt intelligencies were saying about Trump in Russia in 2017?

Speaker 5 It's the same songbook.

Speaker 3 So what is it, Sean, that I mean,

Speaker 3 because it seems as though they just think they know better, they want to control the world the way they want to control the world, and they'll just roll over anybody.

Speaker 3 Is that the story?

Speaker 3 Or is there more to this story with what the CIA is doing and has been doing?

Speaker 5 I think that's the exact story.

Speaker 5 You have people who, whether I don't know if it's arrogance, misguided sense of noblesse, oblige, or what it is, they think they are not accountable to anyone other than their own individual moral compass.

Speaker 5 I mean, in the JFK case, I think we had three separate CIA directors who lied to Congress. We had Dulles who lied to him.
We had Richard Helms who lied to Congress.

Speaker 5 We had John McCone who lied to Congress. We had scores of CIA agents involved at the time who lied to Congress.
And if you look at that and you think, oh, well, you know, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 5 They would never do that now. Think about James Clipper and John Brennan

Speaker 5 lying to Congress. They think they are accountable to no one but themselves.

Speaker 3 So isn't this the real,

Speaker 3 isn't this, I think, you know,

Speaker 3 Cash Patel said to me about eight months ago, he was sitting in my office and he said, I said, everybody's dead, Cash.

Speaker 3 Who are they trying to protect at this point? And he said, Glenn, it's not who, it's what.

Speaker 3 And with this release, to me, everybody has kind of downplayed this as no big deal, and maybe it isn't, but to me, this release has made it very, very clear.

Speaker 3 We're seeing exactly the same pattern over and over again, and nobody is doing anything.

Speaker 3 They're claiming it's a conspiracy theory and everything else. And if we don't stop this, we're never going to get out.

Speaker 3 We're never, if we don't hold the CIA and the intelligence community accountable this time, it's going to continue to happen.

Speaker 5 Before we got on the radio today, I was reading through an old interview with Jim Garrison, who is a New Orleans prosecutor who set up his own task force to investigate the JFK assassination and the CIA's involvement in it.

Speaker 5 And he said something that it's almost like you were reading from this transcript. When he was interviewed decades ago about it, he said, look, they lied about everything.
The

Speaker 5 CIA lied about it. These people aren't accountable to anyone.
And if this kind of behavior is allowed to continue, you cannot have democracy.

Speaker 5 And if you don't have democracy in this country, this country will fall. And he is exactly right.

Speaker 5 You cannot have an unaccountable paramilitary intel organization that thinks it can do whatever it wants, that thinks it reports to no one, and that its only sense of duty is to its internal sense of honor.

Speaker 5 That is a recipe and a description of tyranny, not democracy or freedom.

Speaker 3 So are we going to be able, because I don't, I hear kind of a collective yawn on what's been released and what I think we're supposed to learn from this.

Speaker 3 Are we going to, I mean, can it be stopped at this point? Because if it would have been really, truly exposed and stopped in the 1960s, we may not have had a Watergate. We may not have had a 9-11.

Speaker 3 I mean, they're always going to fight back, but if we could have stopped it, A lot of our history would be a lot different than it is today. Can we stop it?

Speaker 5 I think we can. You know, it's interesting.
I agree with you that people kind of yawned when the files came out. I don't think it's because people are uninterested in it.

Speaker 5 I think it's because everyone assumes there were lies the whole time.

Speaker 5 You would be hard-pressed to find someone who's done any amount of research or paid any attention who thinks, yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gumman.

Speaker 5 He wasn't working with anyone. There was no conspiracy, and it's exactly how they all said.
I actually think everyone assumes the intel agencies are entirely crooked.

Speaker 5 And I think that's one reason Trump won this election in the way he did. I think people are sick and tired of it.
So I have hope, but it takes more than hope.

Speaker 5 It's going to take concrete work to tear down these corrupt institutions that are trying to destroy and take over the country.

Speaker 3 So can I really go down the crazy trail with you? I think, you know,

Speaker 3 when I saw the Signal thing happening,

Speaker 3 and I know that Signal got some of its first funding through Radio Free Asia, which Trump has just put on the chopping block because it's clear that money's not going to anything good.

Speaker 3 And then you have

Speaker 3 the woman who was part of all of the CIA and State Department color revolutions all over the world, who's now at NPR.

Speaker 3 trying to control that as, you know, propaganda, was at Wikipedia, and now is on the board of directors of Signal.

Speaker 3 You look at that story and you're like, this is another CIA operation. That's all this is.
This is another lie

Speaker 3 and another gotcha from the CIA. At least that's the way I feel.
I don't know if it's true, but it sure feels like that to me.

Speaker 5 My first inclination, anytime we get a new story about what's going on in the Intel community or some new scandal we're supposed to pay attention to, I just assume they're all lying.

Speaker 5 That is my default position before I know anything. And I'll tell you, I've kind of used that rubric for the last like 15 years, probably should have used it for the last 30.

Speaker 5 I don't think I've struck out yet. Like it turns out to be a pretty accurate way of looking at this stuff.
So I don't think you're crazy on that at all.

Speaker 5 I smell a rat basically every time we have a story about something from the Intel community because it always looks like they're trying to grab back power that doesn't belong to them.

Speaker 3 Exactly right. So what do people have to do? Because I worry about,

Speaker 3 you know, well, I mean, as I say, before you get there, I was going to say, I worry about our president, but I now am questioning Nixon.

Speaker 3 And I'm not saying Nixon was a good guy, but I'm questioning whether that was just a CIA

Speaker 3 operation with Watergates. This never really made sense.
Why would he do that? But I'm not saying he was a good guy either. So I don't know.
Maybe he just did it because he was stupid.

Speaker 3 But now that I'm looking at it, the pattern seems to be the same with the Nixon thing.

Speaker 3 Was that a setup?

Speaker 5 Oh, of course it was.

Speaker 5 I mean, you had the burglars who were connected to the CIA, and then you had the guy who, you know, was deep throat, the super secret source, who clearly didn't have an axe to grind or anything, was the deputy director at the FBI.

Speaker 5 So, like, of course you should smell a rat with Watergate.

Speaker 5 And what I find crazy is, you know, again, I wasn't live at the time, but I look back, they hated Kennedy because they didn't think he was sufficiently anti-communist. So Kennedy gets taken out.

Speaker 5 And then, you know, roughly 10 to 15 years later, they decide to take out the guy who ended the Vietnam War that had been lying in their pockets the whole time.

Speaker 5 History doesn't repeat, but it sure does rhyme.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 that is the one thing. It is always, it's the military and intelligence industrial complex that seems every time you threaten that thing.
Oh, and I should say the Fed as well.

Speaker 3 Every time you threaten those things, that is a line you just don't cross without serious consequences. And, you know,

Speaker 3 it's amazing to me that Trump has survived what he has survived, especially with the entire intelligence agency, the whole thing set up against him over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 And then this assassination, which was completely just the idea of this young little boy,

Speaker 3 is just completely

Speaker 3 a lone wolf.

Speaker 3 How does he survive this, Sean? Sean?

Speaker 5 Well, you may think I'm crazy here. Divine grace is the only reason he survived that.
And by the way, he didn't just survive one. He survived multiple ones.

Speaker 5 I mean, we can talk about the guy in Palm Beach who was somehow camping out of his golf course for days and just happened to be super connected to everything the CIA and the military was doing in Ukraine.

Speaker 5 Yes, I'm sure that was just a coincidence, just like everything else was just a coincidence.

Speaker 3 You know, when people say that's a conspiracy theory,

Speaker 3 I seem to recall that this was something back in the 50s that the CIA said, you know, a way to stop people from finding the truth, just call them conspiracy theories and rat people out as conspiracy theorists, and that'll just stop everybody in their tracks.

Speaker 3 And so now you have the population saying, oh, it's a conspiracy theory. You're a conspiracy theorist.
And you're like, don't you realize you're using the tactics that they came up with

Speaker 3 to make sure that nobody's talking about the possible truth. It's odd.
It's odd.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and they came up with that in the wake of the JFK assassination to get people to not talk about what we all knew happened.

Speaker 5 Once you see it, I feel like all of this is like those magic eye posters that were big in the 90s where you had to stare at them for a little bit and you could see the 3D image if you crossed your eyes just right.

Speaker 5 But once you saw the image, you could never unsee it.

Speaker 5 That's how I view all of the operations and psyops, whatever you want to call them, that these people run against the American public.

Speaker 5 Once you've seen one of them, you start to see the pattern everywhere, and it's unmistakable, and you cannot unsee it at that point.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 is the Intel community and this deep state

Speaker 3 Are they just coordinating these useless, are these useful idiots on the street that are burning Teslas and everything else?

Speaker 3 Are they, you know, people who are mark, I love this one, the people who were marching on the first day that USAID was shut down, nobody knows what USAID was.

Speaker 3 I mean, and if you did know what it was, you weren't a fan of it because everybody that did know what it was knew it was a CIA front.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 is this just more of the deep state just

Speaker 3 using useful idiots?

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I think there's this, whether you want to call it like the NGO industrial complex,

Speaker 5 I don't know. But you've got all the money that's kind of on the outside from Soros types.
Everyone likes to make Soros a boogeyman, and obviously he's a bad dude with a lot of money doing bad things.

Speaker 5 But they've created this own little, almost like self-licking ice cream cone of organizations and street theater and shock troop

Speaker 5 that they see, you know, BLM,

Speaker 5 Antifa, all these protests, nobody believes they're organic. Nobody's.
So the only question is, where's the money in organization coming from?

Speaker 5 I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the same people who've been behind everything else for the last 30 years.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I really thought as we were exposing it back in my days at Fox that it was the Tides Foundation and Soros, but it was so much money that I kept saying, geez, these billionaires on the left, they really care.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 it's the NGOs that are getting money from our government.

Speaker 3 That's what's happening here.

Speaker 3 We're paying for our own destruction. It's really remarkable to watch.

Speaker 3 Sean, thank you so much for all that you do. Thanks for starting the Federalists.
Such a great organization.

Speaker 3 And thanks for being on today. I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Well, you're very kind and generous. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 You bet. Sean Davis from the Federalist.
He's the CEO and co-founder.

Speaker 3 You should read his work on

Speaker 3 the CIA behind JFK's assassination.

Speaker 6 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 3 Let me take you next to our next guest, good friend of the program, just overall great guy. Kirk Cameron is on with us, actor, producer.

Speaker 3 He is with

Speaker 3 Brave Books, and it's now BravePlus.com.

Speaker 3 And they launched something yesterday that he was on this program talking about, oh, geez, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 six months ago, maybe?

Speaker 3 And he was talking about Iggy and Mr. Kirk, which is kind of a

Speaker 3 Mr. Rogers for modern day.

Speaker 3 And it talks about the basic principles. It teaches us to our little kids, you know, self-control, honesty, putting others first, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 All the things that Mr. Rogers did.
Welcome, Kirk Cameron. How are you?

Speaker 6 Glenn, it's so good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're both so excited.

Speaker 6 Iggy has landed, and kids all over America are so excited. And I'm doing my best to honor Mr.
Rogers with this new kids' TV show.

Speaker 3 How old do you know? I meant to look this up before you came on. Do you know how old Mr.
Rogers was when he started compared to your age now?

Speaker 3 I don't either.

Speaker 3 He had years and years. Dude, look that up for me, will you? He had years and years in front of kids, raising kids, and became this just beloved figure.

Speaker 3 And I remember, I mean, he, you know, he started, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't even know if he was around when I was a kid.
I'm sure he was because it was all black and white, the early stuff.

Speaker 3 But,

Speaker 3 you know, I only found Mr. Rogers when I was older.
And I'm like, wow.

Speaker 3 This is weird. Because now, in looking back, you know, nobody was that nice.
Nobody was. Now you suspect people that are that nice and so and so sweet.

Speaker 3 But that guy was truly an amazing

Speaker 3 hero, a godly, godly man, and really a

Speaker 3 respected guy by everybody. He was 40, by the way, Glenn.
40. He was 40.
How old are you, Kirk?

Speaker 6 I'm 54.

Speaker 3 54.

Speaker 3 So he was 40 years old when he started this.

Speaker 3 And to step into kind of a little bit of his shoes must be a little intimidating.

Speaker 6 It is. And, you know, in this show for kids,

Speaker 6 we're teaching clear moral lessons like he did, like forgiveness, lessons on telling the truth, lessons on overcoming your fears. We're even diving into cultural and political issues.

Speaker 6 We're teaching children about the dangers of socialism and about the sanctity of life. We're even having an episode, number four, it is, on identity.

Speaker 5 And Mr.

Speaker 6 Rogers...

Speaker 6 didn't really need to talk about some of those things back in his day, but today we've got Disney Snow White and we've got Nickelodeon and other shows that are introducing stuff like, you know, non-binary big birds.

Speaker 6 And we've got all sorts of crazy stuff that kids are trying to wrestle with.

Speaker 6 So we need to address these issues in a way that's safe for kids, that parents trust, and that also ignites those little imaginations for the good and imparts virtue and faith.

Speaker 6 And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 We're pumping so much garbage into our systems. I've heard you talk about, you know, it's like food, but it's true.
We're pumping garbage food into us and expecting our bodies to work.

Speaker 3 We're putting garbage drugs into our bodies and thinking it's going to work out well

Speaker 3 and garbage into our minds. And

Speaker 3 it's not going to work out well unless we turn this corner.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's right. And I'm actually really thankful for all of

Speaker 6 the weird, woke, and twisted things that have come down because in a sense, it's it's the wake-up call we've needed and now parents are leaning in they're waking up they're speaking up and there's an opportunity with so many things going on politically in the country with Trump and Doge and all these other things where all of a sudden these government

Speaker 6 top-down institutions are now going to be drained to a degree and there is a need for parents and communities and churches to work at the grassroots level to provide better alternatives.

Speaker 6 And so I think the timing of this is perfect. I'm so excited.
It could be the most important project I've done. And it's available everywhere for everybody to see.

Speaker 6 If you've got kids or grandkids, and you want to nourish their hearts and minds when they are in the middle of screen time,

Speaker 6 just check out Iggy and Mr. Kirk, and it's on Brave Plus, the app on your TV or BravePlus.com.

Speaker 3 And it's not the only thing. Don't you have like Strawberry Shortcake? I'm trying to look.
You had a bunch of stuff. Yeah.
Strawberry Shortcake. Bob the Builder is on there as well.
So it's all

Speaker 3 these great character-building shows.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's right. That's what's really cool about Brave Plus.
We're not waiting for Disney to pick up the Clue phone and figure out the stuff that parents actually want and can try.

Speaker 6 They've created their own streaming platform and really high standards. So if it's over-stimulating, that's as bad for your kids as processed foods.

Speaker 6 If it's not underlining good, moral, traditional American and godly values, it doesn't make the cut.

Speaker 6 But there's over 50 shows on there, and you can watch the first three episodes of my new show, Iggy and Mr. Kirk, for free.

Speaker 6 If you want to watch the rest, we've got a whole season complete along with 50 other shows, like you said, Bob the Builder, Strawberry Shortcake,

Speaker 6 Madeline,

Speaker 6 so many great shows there that are safe without a second thought, and your kids are going to love them.

Speaker 3 So let's

Speaker 3 can we just go through because I really want parents or grandparents that have little kids to understand what you're doing because this is so important.

Speaker 3 We have to rebuild education from the ground up and entertainment

Speaker 3 and entertainment that you can actually feel comfortable in leaving the room for five minutes.

Speaker 3 And your kids aren't going to be coming back and speaking a language that you're like, wait a minute, you're confused in your own body. Why?

Speaker 3 So can we just go over the first couple of episodes? First one is Injured Bird. The lesson there is.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this is Injured Bird. This is all about the sacredness of life, all life, including unborn life.

Speaker 6 And Iggy is essentially really upset at this bird that has snuck into his treehouse and is stealing all of his worms. He wants to go fishing.

Speaker 6 And the bird is stealing his bait. What he doesn't know is that this is a mama bird who's collecting worms worms because the little chicks in her eggs in the nest are about to hatch.

Speaker 6 And he learns that these little lives inside these eggs are precious and he's got to learn to take care of them. But then the episode continues on to value disabled life and elderly life.

Speaker 6 And so it's a whole show about the sanctity of all life.

Speaker 3 What an appropriate first episode. Yeah.
So good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then episode number four is dealing with identity. And in the middle of it, Mr.
Kirk, that's the Mr.

Speaker 6 Rogers character, reads to Iggy, the little adorable green iguana, a book called Elephants Are Not Birds.

Speaker 6 And this is a show about identity, where culture, the vulture,

Speaker 6 tries to deceive Iggy into thinking that if he were somebody else, if he was someone other than what God made him to be,

Speaker 6 he would be liked and loved more by his family and friends.

Speaker 6 And so we have this whole show helping Iggy to discover that God made him just the way he is and that when he embraces who he is, then he can fulfill the purpose that God has given him.

Speaker 3 Have you heard of, have you seen any of the research on this or talked to any of the viewers and discovered something that you didn't know was going to be a benefit of this or something that

Speaker 3 you you were surprised by you're like, oh my gosh, I'm so glad I didn't even think of that, but I'm so glad this is happening with the audience.

Speaker 6 You know, more and more data is coming out that is showing that children's brains are negatively impacted by most of the children's programming coming out.

Speaker 6 Because at the end of the day, just like junk food, it's designed to be cheap and addictive, and most children's shows are the same way.

Speaker 6 Kids are staring like zombies at the screen because they've been designed to addict them

Speaker 6 through non-diegetic sounds that are put in in post-production. It's not part of the world they're actually looking at with flashing lights and jump cuts every two to three seconds.

Speaker 6 It's a literal brain hack on your kids to keep them glued to the screen. And they say nine minutes of that has measurable negative impact on their cognitive development.

Speaker 6 And so we're going the opposite way, back to Mr. Rogers, where it's, we take our time and we lean into relationships and develop trust and impart virtue the old-fashioned way.

Speaker 3 How difficult was that to do? Because, you know, everybody in the media, they didn't start out, well, some of them probably did, but they didn't start out with nefarious purposes.

Speaker 3 They were just like, we got to get these kids to watch the show. How are we going to do it?

Speaker 3 Well, if we add this and this, and now to go the opposite opposite and say, we don't want to use any of those tricks,

Speaker 3 that had to be a little scary.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 it was, but it's like you, Glenn, you're a guy who says, no, my bottom line is I want to do the right thing

Speaker 6 by God and by my family. I want to love people.
I want to champion what's good and true and beautiful. And at the end of the day, that's why I like working with Ray Books.

Speaker 6 That's really their bottom line. Their company,

Speaker 6 they don't want to go bankrupt. They want to make money.

Speaker 6 But But more than that, this was an eye doctor who dropped that business to become the CEO of a book publishing company and now a whole media company because he's got kids and nobody else is doing it.

Speaker 6 So that's why we're doing it the way that we're doing it. Yeah, it's scary, but at the end of the day, I've got to answer for everything that I'm a part of.

Speaker 3 Kirk,

Speaker 3 I'm so proud to be your friend and to see what you guys are doing and what Brave is doing.

Speaker 3 I just think there's just nothing more important than

Speaker 3 beginning the journey that is going to be a very long journey and generational journey, but beginning the journey right now to put things back in order.

Speaker 3 It's the most important thing anybody can do and especially with anything on education. And

Speaker 3 I know you know this, but anything I can do. Whatever I have is yours.
You just tell me how we can help because

Speaker 3 you're doing God's work and you're you're helping save the

Speaker 3 you're helping save not just the country civilization you're helping save civilization so thank you

Speaker 6 well you're so kind you always put wind in my sails

Speaker 6 amazingly so and

Speaker 3 you're an inspiration to so many of us so glenn thank you very much god bless you and keep up the great work I want you to go to brave plus.com that's brave plus.com if you have children grandchildren, you know somebody that is, you know, has young children, this is

Speaker 3 so important and it will help your kids

Speaker 3 take all, we got to stop with the Sesame Street stuff. We have to.
We have to. It's the stuff that is being taught now to our kids so early is absolute poison.

Speaker 3 And it's not what we grew up with.

Speaker 3 You can look at all these things and say, well, but I was fine. It's a different world now.
It's a totally different world. And these are not the Jim Henson lessons that we used to get as kids.

Speaker 3 And I'm not against progress. I'm very

Speaker 3 progressive in the right ways. I believe in future.
I believe in

Speaker 3 making new things and cutting edge and everything else. But we cannot disregard all of the things that have worked for centuries.
The truth works. And Kirk is

Speaker 3 doing a yeoman's job here along with Brave. So go to BravePlus.com.
You can see the first three episodes free, but share it with all of your friends. Braveplus.com.
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