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The family, apparently the wife and, quote, numerous children of the Boulder terror attack suspect

are going to be deported.

And boy, a lot of people are very upset about that.

I mean, yes, I mean, he was a good dad.

Sure.

I mean, he waited until his daughter graduated so he didn't have to be in jail for murdering Jews and setting an old woman on fire, you know, during the graduation week.

So, I mean, you're going to hold that against him and his family?

I mean, I'm sure they're not extremists just because dad is.

Oh my gosh.

Wait until you hear this.

And there's some critical thinking questions that I think we need to ask today.

We're going to kind of focus on critical critical thinking today to see if maybe we can jump-start that critical thinking pattern in anybody in America.

Or is it just you and me?

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Okay, so the wife and numerous children of the Boulder terror attack suspect to be deported.

You know, he was the shirtless guy that was acting like he was a landscaper

while Jews were in their demonstration run for their lives, a grassroots organization against Hamas terror.

And he was there and he threw Molotov cocktails.

Luckily, I guess he was captured on a cell phone video at the scene.

He's already admitted it, but the family is now being deported.

They're being

a process for expediated removal back to Egypt.

It will allow them to be deported without an immigration court hearing.

And

you just listen for it because it's coming.

There's some Democrat going, wait a minute, we can't just deport the whole family.

Yes, we can deport the whole family, and we should.

Extremism has got to be choked out.

You know, we are told that we've opened our borders, and this is so bizarre.

We've opened our borders for a humanitarian crisis.

Let me ask you, what humanitarian crisis?

What is it?

Well, it's Syria, you know, Glenn.

Really?

Because we didn't have this kind of humanitarian crisis during World War II,

where most of the world was on fire, we didn't have this kind of refugee problem.

This is a humanitarian crisis.

We have to open our arms.

We have to open our borders.

We must.

Our banks, millions are fleeing war and poverty and persecution.

But I have eyes.

Do you have eyes?

I mean, I've seen the footage.

We see the lines at the border.

We see who's showing up.

And something just doesn't add up.

It's just not right.

First of all, 12 million refugees from Syria, Sudan, Ukraine.

12 million.

Okay, all right.

Let's just think about this here for a second.

12 million refugees.

I mean, the United States took 400,000 refugees in

during World War II.

400,000 refugees during World War II.

We have, what did we do?

8 million, 10 million here recently?

And they're not all from Syria and Sudan and Ukraine.

They're from China.

They're from Saudi Arabia.

They're from Afghanistan.

They're from Mexico.

They're from Guatemala.

They're from everywhere.

This is weird, isn't it?

And you know, the other thing is, look who's coming.

It's not families.

It's not mothers clutching their children.

It's not the elderly or the infirm.

No, no, no.

Overwhelmingly, the refugees filling the streets of Berlin and Paris and London and now American cities are young men, 20-somethings, male, fit, angry, and alone.

Hmm.

Aren't those the ones that should be defending their country?

Here's a question that nobody wants you to ask.

Where are their wives?

Where are their sisters?

Did they just leave their sisters behind?

Where are the daughters?

Did they leave their daughters behind?

What kind of man flees his own country, flees war, and leaves his mom behind.

What kind of man watches his own country burn and then turns and runs without the people he loves?

He turns and runs, not to fight, but to apply for asylum in a place that he wants to reshape in the image of the country he's fleeing from?

See, there's some questions we have to ask.

We're told that this is just like World War II.

I mean, these are desperate people, like the Jews of Europe, just begging for safety.

But the math doesn't work here.

After one of the worst genocides in human history, we took in 400,000 displaced people over four years.

And now we're told we have to accept millions, not thousands, millions of military-aged men from countries where the problem isn't persecution of Muslims.

But the persecution by Muslims.

Let me ask you, why is Syria in ruins today?

Yes, Assad is a dictator.

Yes, he was.

But also because ISIS and Islamist radicals took hold of that land and drove millions from their homes, especially the Christians, the Druze, the Yazidis, the Jews, the secular Muslims.

Why is Sudan in chaos?

Islamist factions.

Why did Afghanistan collapse the second we left?

Because the Taliban had more spine than the National Army.

That we armed and trained for 20 years.

And what did the men of Afghanistan do?

They fled.

And now they demand asylum in Europe.

Leaving their daughters behind to be re-enslaved?

And if they

hated Islam so much or the Islamist rule, why are they now pushing for Shia law in all of these countries?

I don't understand.

And by the way, if you come here, you should know that one of the most sacred ideas from Western civilization is that women and children go first.

From the Titanic to every single battlefield, that is the measure of a man.

women and children first

and yet somehow in this global exodus, this new exodus, we're supposed to believe that the noble, the persecuted, and the pious are the men who ran without their wives or their daughters or their sisters or their children.

Huh.

Now, as bad as that is, I think it gets worse.

Not only do they come here after they have abandoned their duty to their country and abandoned their duty to their wives and children,

They're demanding benefits and shelter and open borders, and they bring with them the disdain for the nations that took them in.

They march in our own streets and chant against the Jews.

They burn our flags.

They demand Sharia law.

They mock the cultures that have offered them protection.

The unspoken contract that gratitude is a currency of refuge.

That's That's torn up.

I mean, I don't mind helping people, and I don't do it.

I don't help people so they say thank you.

It is nice.

It's not required.

It's not expected, but it is nice.

But have you seen any gratitude?

Any?

No, I see the exact opposite.

When these young men come into our countries and they commit violence, just as one did in Boulder, Colorado, an illegal Egyptian immigrant firebombed Jewish protesters.

We're told now, yesterday, one of the Democrats said, this has nothing to do with the border.

Really?

Really?

Wow.

Well, I guess, I mean, Biden did let him in in 2022, and then he overstayed his visa twice.

But that man yelling, free Palestine, as he throws fire into a crowd of American Jews, and we're not supposed to tie this to an American crisis.

You see, he was here on a visa because he had applied for

refugee status.

From Egypt?

A guy who hates Jews?

A Muslim who hates Jews from Egypt?

What are you fleeing exactly in Egypt?

Because I bet you're mighty popular there.

We're not asking the right questions, and compassion is a virtue

until compassion becomes cowardice.

And that's where we are now.

There is no reason why any sovereign nation should tolerate imported extremists, especially when the greatest threat to the native people of the countries these men are fleeing is from Islamic extremism.

They are the rot they say they are escaping.

And then they're planting that rot in our soil, the soil that gave them safety.

This is not immigration.

This is infiltration.

This is an invasion.

And we need to stop lying to ourselves about that.

Okay, this is not 1945.

This is something entirely new.

This is something orchestrated, something very dangerous.

And if we can't find the will to tell the truth, we can't draw the line between compassion and self-destruction, we're not going to survive with anything.

We won't have anything left.

The truth is the West isn't being asked to shelter the world.

It's being asked to surrender.

And I'm not one ready to kneel at anybody's feet.

So I have some

questions, some critical thinking questions.

Because remember, critical thinking is the immune system of a free society.

It's what allows individuals to separate truth from propaganda, wisdom from the noise, and facts from manipulation.

And without it, you don't think.

People don't think.

They absorb.

They're shaped.

They don't choose.

They react.

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That's why critical thinking is so important.

Critical thinking keeps us from being ruled by emotion.

Remember,

you know, facts don't care about your feelings.

Well, why is it that everybody's just caring about their feelings?

Because Because they're not thinking critically anymore.

That's why they're ruled by feelings and emotion, peer pressure and fear.

Critical thinking, asking the critical questions, the right questions, equips you,

equips you to challenge power and hold the line when popular opinion is wrong.

And popular opinion is often wrong.

It guards liberty by preventing the slow creep of tyranny disguised as progress.

And that's usually where tyranny comes from, the creep of progress or

fear.

What causes fear?

Not knowing the truth.

If critical thinking is lost, lies spread unchecked, and they're repeated over and over again until they become truth.

Men can have babies, men can have babies men can have babies until somebody stands up and say no they can't no they can't have babies period

but if you don't stand up if you're not thinking if you're just following governments grow more authoritarian and there's more and more blind compliance And education becomes indoctrination.

Does any of this sound familiar like a road we're on?

Free speech begins to collapse under social pressure because no one will question the mob.

Evil disguises itself as virtue

because no one asks for proof anymore.

People feel but they don't think.

They obey, but they don't understand.

They suffer, but they don't have any idea why.

A society without any kind of critical thinking is not a society.

It is nothing more than a herd of cattle.

But if critical thinking is found again, then truth rises again, even when it's uncomfortable.

Bad ideas die in the light of scrutiny and thinking and questioning, and the powerful once again fear accountability.

There is no accountability because we're not asking critical questions.

Citizens, if you ask critical questions and you engage in critical thinking, citizens become participants again and not spectators to their own own demise.

Debates begin again and would sharpen our minds rather than just destroy reputations.

And liberty has a fighting chance again because a thinking people is a free people.

So let me just take one minute to break and then we're going to come back and ask some questions about what's really going on here.

What should we really be thinking about when we look at what's happening to our borders and the people who have arrived and we're taking in because we're so compassionate.

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Okay, so

let's look at some of the questions that we should be asking.

I mean, first of all,

when you look at the border crisis, when you look at what's happening in our countries, what do you see?

You see old women and young children?

No.

You see see young men, men in their prime, no wives, no daughters, no elders, just young men.

So the question is, the first question is, where are the women and the children?

Did they just leave them behind?

And if so, what does that say about the character of the men who are coming here?

And from there, the questions get a little harder and more important.

If these men are indeed fleeing Islamist extremism, Why do they arrive in the West and fight for Islamist principles?

Let's look at Venezuelans.

If they really are escaping persecution and trouble and death cults in Venezuela, why do they come here and try to take over neighborhoods and threaten death and join cultish-like gangs?

The Islamists, why do they demand Sharia law?

Why do they attack Jewish citizens?

Why do they march through London and Paris and Denmark screaming death to Israel?

If they're truly victims of radical Islam,

why do they become the ambassadors to radical Islam the moment they resettle?

That doesn't make sense, does it?

And if they're seeking freedom, why do they wish to dismantle ours?

Here's another one.

Why are nearly all Western nations from Canada to Germany to the United States responding exactly the same way?

Same immigration immigration policy, same laws, same slogans, same censorship, same framing in the media, in some cases, word for word in the laws and the headlines.

If this isn't coordinated, how do you explain that?

More in a minute.

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You know, so I've issued this

question to the Anti-Defamation League every day since the shooting in Colorado.

I was called a danger, an extremist, a radical,

strangely, an anti-Semite for warning the Jews of America

and anybody who likes Jews that we should probably stand up and stop the road that we're going on because Marxism and radicalism

and

anti-Semitism, they always seem to go

hand in hand.

When you're against the West, when you're against the Western values, when you're claiming that America is an evil place, usually Israel is an evil place too, and anti-Semitism creeps in.

And I warned that we would see the exact kind of hatreds that we saw in the streets in Germany and Europe in the 1930s.

We'd see them here on the streets of America.

And the Anti-Defamation League said that I was a fear-monger and a hater and an anti-Semite.

And I've asked every day, and I'm still waiting for a question, Anti-Defamation League.

Tell me,

you want to retract that?

Do you want to say, when I said you have to truly remember, I mean, never forget, right?

To truly remember.

And the reason why you don't forget is you don't, you don't say, I always want to remember the oven doors closing.

You say, I want to remember so I can remember the seeds when they were planted and what watered those seeds so I can pull that up from the root the minute it sprouts.

Never forget doesn't mean let's remember the Holocaust.

It means let's remember what leads to the Holocaust so we can stop it.

But somehow or another, that was too radical for the Anti-Defamation League.

What do you say about it now?

What do you say about it now that it's here on our streets?

I'd just like to know, am I still a crazy extremist that hates Jews somehow or another?

Here's the questions that we have to ask if we are going to solve anything.

We have to start using critical thinking again.

A, why are so few women and children among the refugee populations that are coming into all of our countries?

What ideologies do these young men have when they're coming into our country?

And why are they not being vetted or challenged?

Why does no one seem to care?

Why do refugees from Islamist

regimes hold so many anti-Semitic or anti-Western beliefs when they get here?

And why do they not change when they're in their host country?

Why are Western media outlets using nearly identical language to describe all of these events?

Why do they use almost exactly the same language and tactics to dismantle anyone like me who questions these events?

And who's coordinating that narrative?

Because, gosh, I just don't think that it's happening almost word for word in laws and media reports exactly the same in 40 different languages.

It's weird.

Is there any relationship, any relationship at all?

with the rise of anti-Semitism in any of this?

Why are Western governments criminalizing criticism of immigration policy while ignoring the extremist behaviors from some migrants?

Because that's a weird one.

I can't question in a culture that holds free speech up as one of the highest ideals, but

in a law-abiding society and one where we have blind justice or supposed to have,

the extremist behaviors, they're not punished,

but me questioning I am.

That's weird.

Can anybody explain that one?

Why are the same open border policies being adopted simultaneously across every Western nation,

regardless of party leadership?

Why is that happening?

If the refugees claim persecution,

why do they persecute others once they arrive, particularly the Jews, the Christians, women, and gays?

Let me ask you this.

When you're speaking of women, the the views of these guys and what they have,

their view of women, how does that fit in a liberal society?

How does a society who says they care about women dismiss and ignore the views of the men who literally look at women like something they can rape

and do?

Let me ask you this.

What would the world look like if these millions of young men stayed behind to fight for their countries instead of abandoning them and apparently their mothers and their wives and their children, their sisters?

Can I ask this question?

Is compassion being manipulated as a weapon against Western stability?

I mean, don't you think these questions should be asked and then answered?

They do seem like they seem like good questions.

Questions that maybe should be asked and answered before you import many people who have very questionable answers to them.

But

I guess that implies that

your goal

is to protect Jews.

Your goal is to protect innocent people.

If your goal is...

I was going to say, Jews, I'd like to protect all people.

Yeah.

If your goal is not to protect innocent people, if your goal is instead

seemingly to wipe Jews off the planet, which again is a pretty significant chunk of the Democratic Party at this point,

I can give you the names of the representatives.

We've said them many, many times.

These are the people that were cheering on the pro-Palestinian movement on October 8th.

Now, look,

if you wanted to, if you watched that and were horrified by October 7th and talked about it over and over again, and then, I don't know, in December, you were like, you know,

as much as you have to do something here, if you're Israel, I'm a little concerned about how this is playing out.

There's some sympathy you could have with an argument.

You could have an argument about, hey, I feel really bad for the people in Gaza who had nothing to do with this and

are suffering right now.

Of course, that's

an idea you could talk about.

I do.

Yeah, but you can't, you don't get any sympathy for that argument when you were trying to make it on October 8th before the military even went in.

When you were protesting and

acting like you were just criticizing Israel the day after they watched a thousand plus of their people murdered and raped for no reason whatsoever.

That's not a day to jump into the movement on the pro-Palestinian side.

I'm sorry.

So

let me give you this, Stu.

Just tell me how this ends.

If you look at the MI5 terror watch list in England, okay, Great Britain, on MI5's terror watch list, there are 43,000 individuals, okay?

90% of them are jihadis.

90%

of the 43,000 people that are on the terror watch list are jihadis.

Now

let's think about this for a second.

Is that a problem if you're Great Britain?

Well,

40,000 people is larger than the entire size of Hamas on April 7th.

40,000 is larger than the entire size of the ISIS army that launched the attack on Iraq.

40,000 is half the size of the British Army.

I don't know.

I think I'd have a problem if I were English.

And you know what?

That number is bigger here.

That just seems to be, I don't know, a little disturbing.

What does that tell you about the, use critical thinking?

if it's half the size of the British Army, if they're on the streets, if they're already organized, if there's already no go zones, if the government is already afraid of them,

if they're losing control of the streets, if politicians are turning a blind eye to the rape of their own population.

What does that tell you about the shape Great Britain is going to be in in a very short period of time.

And they're still letting people in, by the way.

Let me give you this.

Does this sound unreasonable to you Stu?

If I came up with 10 points on immigration that has to be done, that has to be done right now, let's say I'm in Great Britain or I'm in, I don't know, I'm in the Netherlands where, you know, the population is very small and millions of people have come in.

If I said, look, we have to do these 10 things.

We have to halt asylum admissions right now because we don't even know who's in here.

We have to deploy our military at our borders so no one can come in without authorization.

We have to close the asylum centers

that are now

welcoming people in.

as reception centers and giving everybody things that they can live on and giving them hotels and everything else.

We have to stop the family reunification thing.

Look, if you're a guy in 20 and now you say, I want my family here, no, we cannot take any more because we don't know even who everybody is.

If it started saying, you know what, this particular group in, let's say you're in Europe, Syrians,

this is a very dangerous group, and

they are now

coming in and causing real problems?

We have to deport the Syrian nationalists.

Or at least we have to say one-strike policy.

You get in trouble once and you're out.

We're going to evict you from the

five-star hotels and the food that we've given you because you've been here now for a while and you don't seem to be assimilating.

You don't seem to be doing anything but taking.

We're not going to build any new facilities.

We're going to evict you from these.

We're going to revoke any national or dual nationality.

If you're convicted of a serious crime, you lose the dual nationality.

We're also going to withdraw from any international convention that says we have to do this.

And then we want some legal reforms here to facilitate the deportations.

We're not going to get bogged down.

We have taken millions of people in.

Crime is out of control.

We have lost control of our streets.

And we need the court system to facilitate the deportations of people who are criminals.

Do you think any of those are reasonable?

Sure.

There's some common sense

in many of them.

Yeah.

Okay.

So this is what Geert Wielders, the leader of the Dutch Party for Freedom, he introduced the 10-point immigration plan, and this has set the country on fire.

And I don't think necessarily with the regular folk, maybe it does, but

it set the country on fire.

Everybody, I mean, he has withdrawn.

His party was the largest part of the ruling coalition.

And they just pulled out because everybody else said, nope, we're not doing any of those.

What do you mean you're not doing any of that?

Have you seen the streets?

And they say that Geert is because it's an extreme position no no there's a difference between common sense and the longer you reject common sense the more extreme the answer will be there's a difference between extremism and common sense and the only reason why common sense turns into extremism is because you continually deny common sense and you say that anybody who believes in common sense is an extremist.

And then what happens?

Because those people have been isolated and been told all of your values are evil, when those values are the values that built the nation,

then you have unscrupulous people stand up who don't have the nation's best interests, who don't have freedom, as we all like to enjoy, in

at the top of their list of things.

They come and say, you know what, you're not.

You're not wrong.

You're not wrong.

I'm with you.

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So where is all of this extremism coming from?

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let me tell you, this is what happens when powerful people write checks and the rest of us stay silent.

Earlier this week, a report came out quietly, of course, that

Lorene Powell Jobs, Eric Schmidt, and the Tides Foundation has given millions of dollars to a man who openly praised the assassination of two Israeli diplomats in Washington, D.C.

He called that shooting morally righteous, not tragic, not wrong, not even controversial, morally righteous.

Now, the people giving this man money are not nobodies.

They're not on the fringe.

It's not some anarchist with a megaphone in a parking lot in Oregon.

This is Camus Franklin.

He's the head of a non-profit

called Community Movement Builders.

And the work is being funded by some of the richest people in Silicon Valley and the Democratic donor class.

Now, I just want you to remember, when I give you the name Jobs, what do you think of?

Steve Jobs, what did he do?

Silicon Valley, Tech.

When I talk to you about Eric Schmidt, what does he do?

AI.

So these people are now the former CEO of Google.

Plus the Arabella Network, we know that, the Tides Foundation, all Soros-backed organizations.

When they put their money, nearly $2 million

in one year went to this guy's group, a group that calls Israeli existence the result of a war crime, who has labeled police as killer pigs, and praises black separatists convicted of murdering cops.

When they send their money to that guy and we say nothing,

we have a real problem because what else are they doing to our tech?

What else are they writing into the algorithms?

Who else is involved?

These are just big names that are openly doing it, and they don't seem to have a problem.

What about all the other people in Silicon Valley?

And now, that group, that ideology, is being funded with institutional backing and tax-deductible status.

These are people that are now writing the curriculum for your kids, influencing the elections, hosting panels on AI and equity and justice at all of the universities.

Now,

I hate this.

I really do.

I hate this.

And I'm not going to where you think I'm going on this, but if this were a conservative or Republican, a donor group that funded a group that said something half as inflammatory as this, even vaguely racist or violent, what would the media do?

Okay, they would nuke their reputations from orbit.

They would cancel the companies.

They would demand congressional hearings.

And you know what?

That is about the level of where it should be.

If you were talking about

killing cops, praising people shooting others in the street because they're Jewish and saying it's morally, what did he say, morally justified?

Morally righteous.

If you could say morally righteous, you know, I think

we should question you,

your business, everything else.

And I don't mean as a government.

I mean as people.

Okay?

But what happens if the same poison comes from the approved side?

Nothing.

Silence.

Sometimes applause.

Sometimes more donations.

Franklin's group defended the killing of Israeli civilians.

Hmm.

Now they praised the killing of Israeli civilians in the same breath they praised Qassam Soleimani, the Iranian general responsible for the deaths of countless U.S.

troops.

They called him simply a resistor, a man who strengthened Hezbollah.

If you don't know what Hezbollah is,

You're a moron.

You're no, you're dangerous.

You are dangerous

How did we get here?

How is this suddenly acceptable in our society?

More importantly, how is it that some of the most important and powerful figures in tech and media are funding it?

You know, it's really hard to hide behind the word justice when you cheer for murder.

But they don't see it as murder.

They see it as

morally justified.

That guy was running an insurance company, and that insurance company was probably denying people some claims.

So we can gun him down in the streets.

You can't talk about justice if you're cheering that on.

You can't talk about unity when you're bankrolling separatists.

You can't scream fascism and then fund a man who wants racial enclaves, state control of speech, or the abolition of the nuclear family.

Don't talk to me about totalitarian.

You don't even know what it means.

That's not progress.

That's not equity.

It's not even politics.

This is the intentional destabilization of a country using the language of compassion to smuggle in extremism.

That's kind of the theme of today's show.

Extremism.

How did we get here?

Why are we tolerating what's happening in our own streets

the question is

is not why is this happening the question really is at this point why are we letting it happen

why are we the the citizen the journalist the lawmaker still quiet about all of this

Why is the White House silent when a top Democratic donor gives money to a group that calls Hamas's attack solidarity?

Why is the Department of Justice looking the other way when the tax-exempt organizations support racial separatism and endorse convicted cop killers as role models?

Should they play a role?

And here's the biggest question,

really, of all.

What happens to a civilization who forgets to say, no,

no.

No, it's not righteous to murder civilians.

No, it's not justice to fund hate with billionaire checks.

No, it's not brave to remain silent when cancer is growing.

What happens to that civilization?

Because this is not a partisan issue.

And I know, you know, this is the worst part of my job, I think, is I am very opinionated, obviously, if you've listened to me.

And

I get hammered from all sides.

Wish on Hannity yesterday, and

we were talking to a group, and he said, you know, I'm glad to be here with Glenn Beck, who, you know, in 2016 gave me hell for supporting Donald Trump.

And I'm like, yeah, I did.

And I was wrong.

And I admitted it.

But I'm not a partisan guy.

I don't care what the label is.

I look for what is right and wrong.

And when somebody like Donald Trump did not have the record, I wasn't willing to trust.

And maybe that's a flaw in me.

But I wasn't willing to trust.

I'm sorry.

I am a little like doubting Thomas.

I need to put my finger there.

I need to see it.

But when I saw it,

I'm there.

Okay.

I'm hated by everybody.

I have not had a president in my lifetime that liked me because generally I don't like the presidents.

I don't like either party.

And yet everything I say is always couched as I'm just a shill for the Republicans or whatever.

You know what?

I'm not even a shill.

You know what I am a fan of?

You know what I am a supporter of?

The rule of law and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

And I actually mean that.

I can quote those documents.

Most people in politics who say that, they've never read the damn thing.

It's not a partisan issue.

This is all about right and wrong.

It's not left or right.

And the longer we pretend otherwise, the faster we're going to descend into something we will not recognize and may not survive.

We've got to wake up before we lose our ability and our right to speak.

So let me ask you some questions.

Because that's the other thing about today's show is I just want to ask critical thinking questions.

Why are the ultra-wealthy elites and tech billionaires funding organizations that openly support political violence and endorse the killing of diplomats?

Shouldn't that be the number one question out of every press person's mouth if you run in to Eric Schmidt?

If you run into Mrs.

Jobs, the Tides Foundation, why do you support political violence and endorse the killing of diplomats on our streets?

Eric Schmidt,

Lorene Powell Jobs, Tides Foundation.

What do you believe you're achieving by bankrolling community movement builders?

What is it that you love about them?

Are you aware of their rhetoric?

Are you just turning a blind eye because the ends justify the means?

That's really an important question.

Will somebody ask it or answer it?

What accountability exists for the

philanthropies that fund groups promoting violence or separatism?

Is there any accountability?

Because I knew there would be with me.

Why does the community movement builders call murder of diplomats morally righteous?

And how does that square with broader liberal or humanitarian values?

If your goals are liberation and justice, why do you glorify terrorist leaders and groups that have committed atrocities?

What does it mean for a U.S.-based nonprofit to call for liberated zones under separate racial governance?

Is this inclusion or is it segregation under just a different name?

If an ideology calls for collective racial control of resources and defines police as killer pigs, is that promoting civic unity or justice?

And again, why are the Silicon Valley people pouring millions of dollars in to promote that?

Why are groups this extreme receiving significant Democratic donor support, especially when their rhetoric goes beyond protest into open support for political violence and separatism?

How far from the traditional Democratic platform are these ideas?

I mean, the party, you know, don't seem to be distancing yourself from it.

In In fact, you seem to quietly embrace this, and it's getting louder.

Your quiet is starting to get a little loud.

What are the dark money networks like Arabella play in shaping the grassroots movement with potentially extreme ideologies?

Is anybody looking into that?

Are politicians like Kamala Harris or Raphael Warnock aware of the full nature of the groups being funded through PACs and networks aligned with them?

Why is there so little media scrutiny of these connections compared to the other political funding controversies?

Why is anti-Semitism tolerated or overlooked when it comes from far-left or minority-focused groups?

I just don't know.

Why does mainstream media, the outlets, including those owned by donors like The Atlantic, fail to report critically on any of these stories?

Is the public being misled by selective coverage or the avoidance of topics that might expose contradictions in elite or party narratives?

I just...

Is any of this coordinated?

Why are so many elite donors, media owners, NGOs echoing the same talking points and funding overlapping causes?

What happens to a republic?

a democratic society when billionaires, tech moguls, and activist groups openly fund radical ideological movements that seek to dismantle all of the existing legal and social structures.

What happens to that society?

I think these are questions that maybe we should spend some time answering.

I think these are some questions that maybe somebody as a journalist

should be asking people of power, people in Silicon Valley, people who are billionaires that are donating to these very radical groups.

Or are we just going to play politics again?

Yeah, let's just play politics today again, media.

You're so good at it.

Let's just do that.

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I don't know if you saw this, but two researchers that were both from China,

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Ah, you know, we've seen when China does research on things, it doesn't usually end up.

Now, these two researchers supposedly

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Really?

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By the way,

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Tonight, Blaze TV, 9 p.m.,

I believe Ben Shapiro is joining me tonight

from

West Palm Beach, as I'm here this week.

Josh Hammer is joining me now.

He is the Newsweek senior editor at large, also the host of the Josh Hammer Show, guy who I just adore.

I think he's really, really smart, author of Israel and Civilization.

Welcome to the program, Josh.

How are you?

Glenn, with those enduring words, it's always a pleasure to join you, my friend.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

I want to get into some of the stuff that's been happening with

Israel, but I think that

one of the main causes of this is our universities.

And I want to talk to you about...

you know, Trump's decision to cancel the federal funds and

how much of an impact do you think that will have?

Look, from my vantage point, Glenn, let's think of it from a U.S.

taxpayer perspective.

So higher education in America gets exorbitant largesse from we the people through our duly elected representatives.

So Harvard's Endowment, for instance, gets taxed at a 1.4% rate.

1.4%.

So you combine that on top of the just straight up billions of dollars in annual appropriations to fund God knows what things.

By the way, I think a lot of Americans just didn't realize actually the extent to which these universities, Harbor, Columbia, Princeton, et cetera, are just straight up getting not just a favorable tax rate, but hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars in just grants with essentially no strings attached.

And then you kind of throw into the equation

the government's monopoly on student loans as well, which incentivizes people to matriculate the university.

So it's a whole toxic stew.

And I think the relevant thing to think about, Glenn, and I put this in a a column about a month and a half ago or so as this fight against Harvard was really escalating.

Think of it like this.

We the people long ago agreed to subsidize higher ed on the implicit assumption that higher ed serves a public good, that it actually produces good young men and women who are patriotic, who love their family, love their country, ideally love God Almighty himself.

But they dropped their end of the bargain decades ago.

So I think what Trump is really doing, taking the long view here, he's fundamentally resetting the terms of the relationship between we the people and higher ed.

And he frankly could not pick a better place to start than the most elite of all the elite institutions, a place that has clearly and transparently not cracked down on, among other things, anti-Semitism,

anti-Americanism, anti-Westernism, and that is Harvard University.

I mean, you know, what's sick to me is, I mean, this is a hedge fund that calls themselves a university at this point, I think.

They could so easily make higher education

free and pay for it for decades with just their hedge fund.

And I'm not saying that they should do that or whatever.

It's their money, et cetera, et cetera.

But we should stop subsidizing this.

They are making money hand over fist and taking our tax dollars and then teaching our children garbage.

twisting our nation

and

all saying that they're so important.

it was important to support them when they were struggling, when we looked and said, okay,

we got to make sure they're doing the public good.

It's important.

And we want to make sure that they can stay in business, et cetera, et cetera.

But they are some of the biggest businesses in the world now.

And, you know, Glenn, you're a student.

You're a student, Glenn, of the American Conservative Movement, as I like to think I am too.

I mean, it was William F.

Buckley himself, the guy who literally founded National Review magazine, that first post-war institution of the movement.

His first book was on this.

Buckley wrote God and Man at Yale, a book in 1951, 1951.

I mean, decades before I was born, he was complaining about how the elite Ivy League

Ivory Tower of the Academy had sold its soul to secularism, atheism, leftism, at the time, pro-Soviet communism, cultural Marxism, all the various maladies that are seeking to subjugate and essentially devour us as a fifth column from within.

So this is so overdue.

I mean, this is so, so, so overdue.

And by the way, not just on the policy, it's great policy.

The politics are also amazing.

I mean, Donald Trump has a special gift here, Glenn.

He picks amazing enemies.

I mean, think about the whole Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen thing.

I mean, amazing enemies, right?

Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen, Alvin Brad.

Well, so too here.

Harvard University is a pitch-perfect enemy for his nationalist populist MAGA coalition there.

He's forcing Democrats to defend Harvard University.

He is forcing them to tell the person who works at a supply line, at a manufacturing plant who's, you know, making ends meet on $50,000 a year salary.

They're trying to force Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, all these Democrats to say to that worker on the manufacturing line, okay,

your hard-earned taxpayer dollars has to go fund the indoctrination of lesbian dance theory or whatever the heck they're teaching at Harvard University.

It's brilliant, brilliant politic as well.

So tell me about the 2019

combating anti-Semitism Trump order, the executive order that he signed in, because this is what this all kind of spins around, isn't it?

Yeah, so it's twofold.

So this was a very important executive order.

You know, there's been a lot of confusion on this issue, I think.

I've seen a lot of folks confused as to whether or not some of these attempts to legislatively crack down on anti-Semitism infringe upon First Amendment free speech.

But Donald Trump did sign a very important executive order back in 2019 where he interpreted Title VI of the Civil Rights Act.

Title VI essentially prohibits any institution of higher education that receives taxpayer dollars from discriminating on the basis of race, sex, national origin, religion, et cetera.

So he interpreted in an executive order Title VI as including the prohibition on discrimination of religion as including anti-Zionism as a form of anti-Semitism there.

So he essentially did this by executive order years ago.

And that's also relevant doubly so because he signed another executive order in the in the first 24 to 36 hours of his second term back in January of this year, where he also extended, or he interpreted, I should say, the affirmative action case, which, by the way, Harvard was the defendant.

This is the Students for Fair Missions versus Harvard College case from two years ago that reached the Supreme Court that finally overdid the state-sanctioned racism that we euphemistically refer to as so-called affirmative action.

He also interpreted that case as applying

to all, to all of the 14th Amendment, Title VI, and extending it to race, sex, national origin.

So the combined effect of both of these executive orders, Glenn, is to take an extremely strong stand against not just anti-Zionism, anti-Semitism there, but also anti-white hatred, anti-Christian bigotry, anti-Asian hatred there.

These are all the things that Donald Trump and his administration are now cracking on there.

Harvard is offending all of the above.

Many of these lead institutions are offending all of the above.

And the very simple thing that I think the Trump administration is doing here, and again, it's great policy and great politics alike.

They are saying, unless and until you stop discriminating on the basis of race, sex, religion, and so forth, there, you're not entitled to any taxpayer dollars.

It's a pretty good argument, I think.

So tell me, because I'm hearing some people say on both sides, you know, this is a crackdown on free speech.

And I am not a I'm not a speech policeman.

I believe the most vile things can and we need to allow them to be said

and not squash speech at all because it is a fundamental right.

And we have to have it if we're going to grow as people.

How do you stop this from being

from an anti-Semite

bill to make sure that anti-Semitism is curbed

to it becoming something about speech?

You're not allowed to say, if you want to criticize Israel, criticize Israel all you want.

Same with Hamas, same with all of them, criticize it.

Where's the line there?

So the line, Glenn, in my opinion, is as follows.

You are, of course, more than allowed to criticize any foreign government, Brazil, Indonesia, Japan, Israel, any government.

By the way, Glenn, you know, you've spent some time in Israel over the decades.

You're a tremendous friend of the Jewish people.

You know, anyone who's ever met Israelis knows that no one loves criticizing the Israeli government more than Israelis themselves.

So,

you know,

this notion of.

Two Jews in a room, and you've got four different opinions, and none of them could be satisfied by the other one.

So, yes, I agree.

Yeah, exactly.

There's literally books written about Talmudic insults.

They've got the insults the rabbis use against.

But anyway, I digress.

So, you're, of course, allowed to criticize any policy you wish of any foreign government, including Israel.

What toes the line is when you focus solely and exclusively on calling for the eradication of a single nation-state there.

And that single nation state,

based on the context and the way that you are clamoring and chanting and the way that you are looking at your fellow students who are probably, in this case, have me Jewish, tends to potentially have an imminent threat of physical danger there.

So for instance, when so-called anti-Zionism amounts to people blocking students from campus yards there, to stopping people from accessing the library simply because they are wearing kipah or the ritual fringes, tsitzi, because they are visibly Jewish there, that is clearly no longer simply criticism of a given policy of the Netanyahu government.

That is just straight up anti-Semitism there.

So when it reaches an imminent threat of harm there, and by the way, Glenn, I would say the exact same thing about imminent threat of harm for anyone else, by the way.

If you had a group of

Chinese Americans, Japanese Americans, whoever it is, and you had a small group of people there that

clearly have demonic eyes there, and they're they're chanting for the eradication of Japan, and they're blocking the Japanese students from access to the library.

I would say the exact same thing there.

So

that is kind of how I would personally draw the line.

It's admittedly not the cleanest line to draw.

Go ahead, sir.

But how do you then balance with, let's say, you know, Ronald Reagan saying the Soviet Union is an evil empire, needs to be destroyed, or the Nazis and, you know, the argument that, well, not all Germans were Nazis, but everybody kind kind of looked at all Germans as Nazis there for a while.

So, look,

here,

I'll probably even draw the line even a little finer than that there.

Look,

there are even a lot of Jews, even a lot of religious Jews who are not theologically Zionists insofar as they're getting a little in the weaved, honestly.

But

the very quick argument is that the state of Israel should not have been formed prior to the arrival of the Jewish Messiah.

So, okay, if you want to have an academic argument as to whether or not it was a good idea for the Jewish state to be formed in 1948, I think that's fine.

Frankly, religious Jews do that among themselves all the time.

What, again, I think crossed the line is calling for from the river to the sea with the clearly intended effect of tossing the Jews into the sea, which, again, it gets to the subjective intent of what is being called for here, and that's not always the cleanest line to draw, but

that's why in theory we have bureaucracies and juries and things like that to actually hear the evidence and so forth.

We only got about 30 seconds, Josh.

Does this work?

Does Trump win this?

I don't think that Donald Trump is blinking, Glenn.

I mean, Harper's going to blink.

Trump's meeting is like he's thrown the gas well here.

I wish him the best of luck.

I think he's going to win this fight.

Josh Hammer from Newsweek, Senior Editor-at-Large, also the author of Israel and Civilization.

Josh, as as always, good to talk to you.

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You know, there are some people that say that Elon Musk is just upset,

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I don't think that Elon Musk is doing that.

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One thing I,

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Now, it's interesting because she's just out as gay.

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Excuse me?

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You know, my mom used to say, sticks and stones can break your bones, but words will never hurt you.

And we used to really believe that, and I still do, but words are becoming very, very dangerous,

especially when they are in the mouths of extremists and they're marching around saying, you know, kill all the Jews, and then people start to kill all the Jews.

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I'm doing great.

How are you?

I'm good.

So, did I get this right?

You're talking about now that the Supreme Court might start leaning towards security over free speech

in the coming years.

Yeah, look, I pride myself on never, it does.

I pride myself on never making predictions based on what I want to happen.

That's what Lawrence Tribe does.

That's what others on the left do, and that's why they're always wrong.

I make predictions based on my analysis of trends.

This is not a trend I approve of, but it's a trend I see coming.

I see see coming it in the area of defamation.

I see it coming in the area of incitement.

I think that the Brandenburg decision was written during a time of relative calm, and we weren't seeing the kinds of incitements to violence that we saw that probably led to the burning of Jews in

Boulder, Colorado, and the shooting of these two innocent people in Washington, D.C., and other kinds of things.

Look,

I have a lot of...

Hang on just a second.

You just said, and I find this amazing that you said, you just said it happened

in a time of relative calm.

It was 1969

that this case came down to the Supreme Court, if I'm not mistaken, which is not really a calm year.

But can you explain what the Brandenburg case is?

Sure.

What it was.

Brandenburg was a Nazi who was making horrible, horrible speeches,

but he wasn't inciting anybody directly.

And the Nazis in those days had no influence, no power.

They weren't getting people to do things.

The people who were creating problems then were during the Vietnam War, people from the left.

I represented a lot of them.

And I represented people who disrupted the Democratic Convention in 1968, the Chicago 7, and other people like that.

And I saw with my own eyes that some of these people who started as disruptors and violent confrontationists and people pushing and shoving and

breaking property and stuff like that, ultimately became murderers, like Kathy Boudin, who ended up being responsible for the killing of two policemen, or the weathermen who planted bombs

and killed people.

And then their leaders became

prominent spokesmen of the left professors at various places.

So

I saw that.

And what I'm seeing now is

a different

kind of quantity.

And what we're seeing it is with the, you know, globalize the intifada and Palestine will be free from the river to the sea, those are calls for violence.

And under the current Brandenburg case, they're protected speech.

I think they should still be protected speech.

But my view, my prediction is that when the next case comes up to the Supreme Court, this Supreme Court,

I think they may take a more security-oriented point of view and say, wait a minute, the incitement doesn't have to be so direct, it could be a little bit more indirect and let the jury decide that issue.

So I'm concerned about that.

You know, in my book, The Preventive State, I have a whole chapter on free speech and how free speech can sometimes cause violence,

but that it's not proper to deny free speech in order to prevent violence.

We have to think of better ways of preventing violence.

And in the preventive state, I come up, I think, with better ways than constraining free speech.

Because

I really, I'm with you on this.

This really disturbs me.

When I read this article from you yesterday, the story from you yesterday,

I needed to talk to you because I'm like,

this is horrible.

This goes beyond

cancel culture.

This is now the government.

being able to come in and say, nope.

Yeah.

Right.

That's really bad.

Yeah.

Look, there are so many preventive mechanisms we use that have effects on free speech, even deportation.

Deportation obviously denies the deported person the right to speak freely in this country.

Now, of course, under the Constitution, a citizen has the most free speech rights, a green card holder second most.

Visa holders almost no free speech rights.

They can be deported if they say things that are contrary to the interests of the United States.

They're just guests in the country.

And so,

I think we're going to see a lot lots of movement in this area because we're going to see a lot more violence.

Let me tell you what happened to me.

The day before

the killings in the District of Columbia, this one Christian boy and Jewish woman who were killed working for the embassy, the day after that, I was getting an honorary degree at a college in Florida.

And the security people from the college came up to me and said, we're terrified that there might be a copycat attempt to kill you because you're a prominent spokesman

for pro-Israel points of view.

And so they created a whole security thing around me where they created an escape plan.

They had policemen with machine guns and with bulletproof glass to protect me.

And I

have redoubled my security.

And I think we're going to see more copycat crimes.

I think that Hamas wants to see violence in the United States.

That's their goal, to get more people to kill Jews, Christians, and others in the United States.

And I think they're probably going to succeed unless there are some preventive steps that are

taken.

Now, the preventive steps should not include diminutions of legitimate free speech under the Constitution.

I tell you,

I see what the government is doing and how AI is, you know, and Silicon Valley is playing a big role with the Pentagon and CIA and everything else.

And I am really, really concerned if there is another big event like a 9-11,

I fear Americans are just going to run to that kind of stuff.

And then we're in a trap that I don't think we get out of.

Yeah, that's what history shows.

And in my book, The Prevent a State, I show that there's a common phenomenon.

We underreact and we don't prevent.

We didn't prevent Pearl Harbor.

We didn't prevent 9-11.

Israel didn't prevent October October 7th.

Then what happened?

After we failed to prevent Pearl Harbor, we put 110,000 innocent Japanese Americans in camps in order to prevent them from doing it again.

They never would have done it again.

We overreacted.

After 9-11, we created the Patriot Act, which gave the government too much power to prevent a recurrence of that.

And, you know, reasonably people disagree about Israel, but a lot of people think that Israel for failure to prevent October 7th, which they could have done, they had the intelligence, may have overreacted in Gaza.

I'm not agreeing with that.

I'm just telling you, historically, there's a phenomenon.

It starts with under-prediction and ends up with overreaction to the event that was not predicted and prevented.

That's one of the thesis of my book.

So,

what should we expect, and how do we prepare ourselves so we don't go down that road?

Well, first of all, we do a lot more preparation and prevention.

We try desperately to use what the resources are available.

I'll give you an example.

The young man who burned those people in Boulder, Colorado, he was here illegally.

He had overstayed his visa.

There's nothing wrong with using artificial intelligence and computer technology to keep track of people who are here illegally.

And once he overstayed his visa, action could have been taken.

And maybe this crime could have been prevented.

So I think there are preventive steps that are consistent with the Constitution and with free speech that can be taken to avoid the cataclysmic events.

I'm going to give you another horrible example that we're working on right now.

Should the United States and Israel bomb Iran's nuclear

facilities.

We know they're planning to create an atomic bomb.

And we know that in the 1930s, if if France and England had prevented Germany from building up its army, they would have saved 50 million lives.

But we didn't know it then.

And so these are the kinds of preventive decisions.

But there's no free lunch.

Every preventive decision entails some diminution of liberty.

And, you know, Benjamin Franklin was correct when he said

those who would deny essential liberties to secure a little bit more security deserve neither.

But the question is, can we deny a little bit of non-essential liberty to prevent major cataclysmic events?

To give you an example,

if before 9-11 we had arrested 10 people and prevented 9-11 and four of the people arrested were improperly arrested and spent two months in jail improperly, that's probably a trade-off that's worth it.

What are non-essential liberties?

Well, there's a continuum.

Obviously, free speech is the most essential liberty.

Privacy is a matter of degree.

And, you know, keeping track of people who are here illegally does in some way invade their right of privacy, but in a small way, because they really don't have a right to be there at all.

Liberty is a continuum.

And we have to make sure that we don't go after fundamental liberties as I think, look, what could be worse than putting 110,000 Japanese Americans in camps and denying them their right to earn a living?

We did that that for three years in the Supreme Court with liberal justices.

Earl Warren was the governor of California at the time.

Hugo Black was on the Supreme Court.

They all agreed with that.

Only a couple of justices, Justice Jackson, didn't agree with it.

But Americans were outraged at Pearl Harbor as they were outraged at 9-11.

And when you're outraged, you don't think

carefully.

I know.

And that's a little terrifying.

Just looking at what's coming around the world

and then seeing the growth of AI and what can be done, it's a little frightening that we will jump immediately to, yes, we need a super duper Patriot Act.

Yeah, no, I think that's right.

We need a super duper Patriot Act that denies free speech.

That's the first thing because people hate free speech.

You know,

the vast majority of Americans, even though they claim to support the First Amendment, believe in free speech for me, but not for thee.

I used to, when I taught my class on the First Amendment, I would ask students, how many people believe free speech for everybody?

And everybody would raise their hand.

And then I would say, yeah, but what about pornography?

Well, some hands went down.

What about, and then I would do a lot.

What about anti-Semitism?

Some hands would go down.

What about bigotry against Catholics?

Some hands would go down.

By the end of the class, there were no hands up.

Everybody had an exception.

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So, I mean, you were the youngest full professor at Harvard, at the law school.

You're emeritus now at Harvard.

What do you see happening to Harvard and

this war, this battle between the Trump administration and Harvard?

Look, it started way before the Trump administration.

Harvard started on its decline probably more than a decade ago by adopting DEI, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, which lowered standards for admission, lowered standards for faculty, and turned us into a mediocre mediocre university.

We are a mediocre university, Harvard.

The Latin term shouldn't be veritas, it should be

mediocritas.

We have lowered our standards.

This is not about Jews,

or about Israel.

This is about lowering the standards for DEI.

We've also adopted a concept called intersectionality,

which

says that the world's divided into two groups, the oppressors, those are Americans, whites, Jews, and the oppressed, people of color, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

That's permeated the faculty.

Third, we've created these crazy departments of gender studies, of critical race theory, of Southeast Asian-ness,

and these

programs are not academic.

They're political.

They have agendas.

and they have destroyed the university.

And so I think we need to fundamentally root out these hard-left,

polemical,

non-academic causes.

And of course, there's anti-Semitism as well.

And so I generally support giving Harvard a kick in the rear end.

I have a new book coming out after my book, The Preventive State, in the summer, and it's called Trump to Harvard, Go Fund Yourself.

And

it's all about how it's important to have targeted defunding.

Schools like the Divinity School, the Divinity School, the school that teaches Christianity has become the cesspool of anti-Semitism.

The Public Health Department, a cesspool of anti-Semitism.

The Carr Center for Human Rights has become a place of human wrongs.

So

there's a lot of work to be done, but it should be targeted.

We shouldn't be denying visas to everybody.

We should be denying them to people who would come and cause terrible disruptions on the campus.

So there's a lot of work to be done.

And the president of Harvard's is a good person.

He's trying his best.

But

there are hard left people on the faculty who care more about promoting their progressive agendas than about teaching students.

You know, in 60 years at Harvard, I never once expressed a personal view in class.

Never once.

Students didn't know what my views were on capital punishment, on Israel, you name it.

None of them.

I never expressed a personal view in class.

My job was not to teach them what to think, but to teach them how to think.

If they were a conservative, I want them to go out as a smarter conservative.

If they were liberal, I I wanted to be a better liberal.

So that's my job, but that's not what's going on at Harvard today.

Today, it's becoming a place of indoctrination and propaganda.

What do you say to there's this big thing going around now that

I was just a year away from curing tuberculosis and the government pulled all of its funding out of my Harvard research and now it's now these children are all going to die?

How do you respond to that?

Yeah, first, A, it's an overstatement.

Harvard has $53 billion that it can devote to curing cancer.

But

clearly, I mean, for example, one of the first reactions when they cut off the funds from Harvard Research was one of the researchers made an announcement saying, oh, my God, the mice are now going to die.

We can't afford to feed the mice.

You know how much it costs to feed a mice on a given day?

11 cents.

11 cents a day to feed a mouse.

And so there's a lot of overstatement.

But I do think that we have to have only targeted, and we should not be cutting back on research at all.

Alan Dershowitz, I'd love to do a podcast with you, Alan, about the preventative state.

You're always right on top of it.

Thank you so much.

Alan Dershowitz, again, the name of the book is The Preventative State, Harvard Law School Professor Emeritus and host of The Dersh Show.

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last month, the Big Beautiful bill cleared the House by a single vote.

The senators now have been meeting for weeks behind closed doors.

They returned to Washington late Monday.

They revised the package.

Donald Trump just tweeted out: passing the one big beautiful bill is a historic opportunity to turn our country around.

They need to work as fast as they can to get this bill to my desk before the 4th of July.

Then you have Elon Musk saying the massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.

Shame on those who voted for it.

You know you did wrong.

You know it.

Mike Johnson then says, well, that was disappointing.

With all due respect, Elon Musk is my friend, and he's terribly wrong about the one big, beautiful bill.

My gosh, my head hurts from all of this.

Now the White House is sending an additional $9 billion in cuts, which is nice, but

we were hoping for like $1 trillion in cuts and everybody's arguing over $9 billion in cuts.

How is this thing going to even pass?

What is happening here?

We have Chip Roy,

who voted for the last one reluctantly.

And I don't know where he stands now.

Chip Roy, welcome to the program.

How are you, Chip?

Glenn, how you doing, brother?

I'm good.

I'm good.

Must not be fun being you right now.

Well, you know, here's the thing.

When you have a reputation for trying to do the right thing, people do, I think, want to come to you to try to figure out, all right, like, what's the score here?

What's the real deal?

I'm proud that I think people see me as someone who tries to be honest and kind of, you know, work through this to achieve what you and I, I think, and all your listeners want to achieve.

We have an obligation to get this done, but we have to get it done right.

You said thank you for saying that I voted for it reluctantly because I did reluctantly vote for it.

My messaging at the time was reluctant.

We have to weigh a lot of things right now.

We have a president who was given a mandate, a president that you and I support what he's doing, taking on the establishment, taking on this town,

rooting out all this DEI and woke garbage, pushing the barriers,

securing the border, all the things that we know are happening.

And we need to do certain things in this bill.

We do need tax relief.

We do need to extend the tax cuts.

We need economic growth by putting more money in the hands and the pockets of Americans.

Those are all important things, but we've got to cut spending.

And the swamp creatures in Congress aren't good at that.

People like me have been beating our head against the wall, trying to demonstrate, hey, here's what we need to do.

Here's how we need to cut.

So now we've got to balance this thing.

The reason I was reluctant is because it does do some really good things that we bled and fought for for two months, Glenn.

I mean, the week before last, we were like three straight days and going down and negotiating with the White House, negotiating with folks.

And what we got was good.

Was it great?

No.

It was good.

We got the Inflation Reduction Act green new scam.

We got a full repeal of basically all future projects.

But no, we don't deal with the $400 billion of existing projects.

We got historic Medicaid reductions.

Reductions in the increases, yes, but a trillion dollars worth.

That's never been done, Glenn.

Literally.

But is that good enough for the moment?

Maybe not.

I think we needed to do better on FMAP and provider taxes and all of the things about the vulnerable versus the able-bodied.

We got Medicaid work requirements moved up from 29 to 26.

We fought like hell to make the bill something that I think we could be proud of certain elements.

But Elon's not wrong, okay?

Elon's not wrong that for the moment we need to do better.

We need more spending restraint.

We need to meet this moment with the actual deficit reduction that is necessary.

If we get economic growth from the taxes, if we get economic growth from the regulatory policy, if we get economic growth because the president is strong and leading, then we can get out of this mess.

But it is that plus spending restraint.

Last point.

I do think it is worth noting that I'm not sure that Elon is really excited about the extent to which we are killing the subsidies across the board.

All future subsidies

for EVs, for solar panels, for the wind crap, all future subsidies we are mostly killing.

There's a few lingering projects, but we tightened it down.

The left is losing their damn mind, Glenn.

So there is a little of that that's also at play.

So that's a long-winded explanation.

A lot to do.

We're pushing the Senate.

They need to go further.

I think we need to fix some stuff.

But I can promise you this, Glenn.

If this bill backslides, if they walk off of what we got, which I don't even think is necessarily good enough, I can promise you I will oppose it in the House.

So we'll see what the Senate does.

Your speculation on what they're going to do?

Are they making it worse right now?

Is it getting better?

I think there are forces at play that are desperately trying to undo the benefits we got with respect to repealing the Green New Scam subsidies, which, by the way, the President of the United States campaigned fully and clearly on terminating the Green New Scam subsidies.

There are forces in the Senate who want to undo that.

There are forces in the House who regret voting for those subsidy terminations.

I think there are forces in the Senate who

are wary of some of our Medicaid reforms, which were important on work requirements, on eligibility, to tighten down and make sure that we're trying to make sure the able-bodied aren't getting benefits, et cetera.

I don't think it went far enough.

So we're going to have to work hard just to hold the line at the House bill, which Glenn, I would say is on the edge of whether it's good enough to merit moving forward and then hope we get three yards in a cloud of dust.

I will tell you that if we can repeal the IRA subsidies, get the Medicaid reforms, constrain the spending, and get the economic growth in the tax policy, that net it is moving the ball down the field.

That's why I held my nose.

But if we were a truly conservative Congress, we would cut more.

That's just the truth.

So I read all kinds of things things from the banking sector that uh we're talking about our treasury bills that we are we are so dangerously close you raise the debt ceiling yet again we are dangerously close to the rest of the world saying i can't buy their debt anymore i mean they're not serious about anything do you believe we're that close

this might be

yeah i believe we're on a nice edge i think that the bond markets are signaling that i think this is why Scott Besson has been saying we need to get deficits down as a percentage of GDP so we can signal to the bond markets what needs to be signaled.

I think that we have an obligation to get this right right now in order to, frankly,

why isn't anybody listening to that?

Why isn't anybody listening to Besant and to the bond market?

That's lights out for America if we don't get that right.

Yeah, and let me give you another scary point, right?

If we are having to refinance our debt at higher interest rates, which currently we would be projecting, much higher interest rates than the CBO is even projecting.

Putting aside the CBO, we all recognize that they're flawed.

It doesn't matter.

You've got to just look at the model that's in front of you.

The current model projects refinancing that debt at 3.5%.

But what if we have to refinance it at the historic levels of 4%, 4.5%, 5%?

Right.

We would have massively more interest expense.

Instead of a trillion, it'd be a trillion and a half.

Instead of a trillion and a half, it'd be $2 trillion.

We are going to gobble up our entire government expenditure with interest.

I mean, Glenn, it is that bad.

And here's the problem.

Is Congress finally waking up to what you and I and the Freedom Caucus conservatives have been saying now for a decade plus?

Yes, they're realizing that we're in a real bad spot.

So all that's doing is getting them to come to the table to do the bare minimum, right?

The Medicaid reforms, the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies, the food stamp reforms, the other things we just put in this bill, all of which are good, but not as far as I would go.

I'll just be clear for your listeners.

They're finally getting to the table to accept that, and they're getting there too late.

So, now what I'm saying is we need to be doing more.

Let's talk about the rescissions for a second.

The president is sending up rescissions, and yes, it's just $9 billion.

The reason it's that small amount, and so everybody listening out there, why does this matter?

The reconciliation package can pass the Senate with 51 votes.

The normal appropriations process, which we still have to do this year, will require 60 votes in the Senate, right?

So that means it's going to be hard to get through Democrats.

So this rescissions process is a way to try to cut some of these ridiculous programs like USAID and other things

using a 51-vote threshold.

So that is why we're trying to move it that way.

The reason it's just a smaller $9 billion number is it's a test case.

Will Congress do its job and do this first down payment, a $9 billion

rescission of PBS, NPR, and a bunch of those USAID foreign government funding foreign aid wasteful programs?

And now we'll see.

I'll, of course, vote for that.

You know I will.

You don't have to.

But will the moderates?

We'll find out.

If they do, we'll get another rescissions package sent up right after that.

So this is all part of the process working with Rust Vote, the OMB, the president.

So I don't mean to fill a buster, but that's the update.

Jim, speak about the process a little bit because it's fascinating to watch this bill try to make its way through all of this.

At least my estimate so far or my understanding is there's at least two congressmen who, and one congresswoman, I suppose, who

already have said that their vote was a yes, but now it would be a no because they didn't realize what they were voting for, which would already put you under the amount that you need to get it passed.

The salt people in the House are saying, if you get rid of salt, we're done.

And the Senate is saying we're getting rid of salt or at least adjusting it.

How does this thing get across the finish line?

Well, I mean, like everything else, you got to figure out how you navigate to get 218 and to get 51.

We've managed to get it to this far.

Look, you go to war with Army, you got, right?

We have the Congress that we have.

We have the president that we have who's trying to get this done and we're trying to work to do it.

I think we're in the zip code, but we're not where we need to be.

So let's take the things you just, you gave some examples.

Are there things in the bill that some of us knew about and were warning about that others are now just kind of waking up and seeing?

Yes.

Right.

At the time, I said, for example, there's a car tax in this bill, you fools.

I don't support it.

It was a tax to make up for the fact that EVs and hybrids can't, you know, pay their fair share of the gas tax.

They needed $40 billion to pay for some Coast Guard and other stuff.

So how did they pay for it in the committee?

What they did was they added a car tax for EVs and for hybrids.

Now, do you think that we conservatives of limited government

views believe we should have a car tax?

I sure as hell don't.

How about the AI restrictions?

Should we prohibit Florida and should we prohibit Texas from being able to have some sort of regulation on AI?

From a federalism standpoint, I'm not sure we should, right?

So there's lots of things in this bill, and I knew all this, was telling people about it, but man, there's only like 40 fights you can pick.

My fight was you're going to repeal these damned subsidies on the Inflation Reduction Act that are killing our grid, undermining our national security, and destroying natural gas and nuclear energy options.

My fight was trying to get Medicaid held down.

About 20 other fights, for example, the car tax, Scott Perry and I and a couple of others, we at least killed the tax on the internal combustion engines they were going to have a car tax on every car in america y'all so look we're fighting everything we got coming at us there are things that need to get fixed to answer your question if they need to adjust salt i might try to call the bluff of the guys in the salt caucus and say really you're going to vote this down because you didn't get more subsidies for your great big blue state tax jurisdictions right but if they want to try to call our bluff i can tell you if they repeal back the inflation reduction act uh stuff which the president campaigned on,

then that's going to be a real problem.

So we will see.

It is a fine line, and I'm trying to work with leadership, the White House, to deliver as close to my values as I can and be able to look in the mirror and say that I did enough.

And I'm not sure, gentlemen.

I'm always trying to shoot straight.

We're walking a line.

It could easily peel off and I can't support it.

It could move in the right direction and I'll support it and say, let's go fight tomorrow for the next thing.

I'm trying to work in good faith with the president and his team to deliver it.

There's a lot of good things in this bill.

Let's remember that.

A trillion dollars of real Medicaid reforms.

We've never done that before, guys, ever, right?

The Inflation Reduction Act, Planned Parenthood not funded, trans surgeries repealed for adults and kids to defund that.

The left had gone so far, we're peeling a lot of that back.

So let's remember the good stuff while we're trying to, you know, highlight some of our concerns.

Chip, you're very reasoned, and I really appreciate talking to you.

And I really am so glad that you are representing the great state of Texas.

You're a guy that at least I feel I can trust.

You say what you mean and you mean what you say.

And that is the number one thing I look for in a representative is somebody who will say the same thing to me to my face as they will behind closed doors.

And I really appreciate all your hard work on this.

Thanks, Chip.

Hey, I please appreciate it, Glenn.

And thank you for exposing all this to the American people and being truthful about it.

Like, because this is hard for people like us because you want to be with the team to move the ball down the field.

We want to succeed.

We want to win.

But you also don't want to be, you don't want to eat a craft sandwich.

So

I promise you, I will level set the good and the bad and the ugly.

And then you just have to decide what's the best for the country and vote and move forward.

So that's where we are.

Next time it starts to move forward, you just, you call in and you let us know what's in it.

Okay, just make sure you get a hold of me.

As soon as you start to see things moving forward, you let us know because I appreciate your point of view on that.

Thanks, Chip.

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