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But apparently, people in the White House were talking about when Joe Biden wins his second term, we got to put him in a wheelchair.

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Hi, Stu.

Glenn!

Oh, how are you?

Oh, man, I'm so great for a Tuesday.

Yes, things are wonderful in every way.

And it's going to be interesting to see how all this wondrous stuff works out.

Yeah.

I'm going to be watching.

I'm going to be watching.

I'm on the edge of my seat, tuned in.

And not pissed off.

That's the key.

No.

I'm tuned in, but not pissed off.

Because I don't know what we're going to do about it anyway.

Except make the best of it.

All right.

So there's a couple of things.

Now, this was shocking to me, Stu, but apparently Joe Biden needed a wheelchair and somebody to push him around in it.

That's the report today

from the new book.

Yeah, the new book.

It's the Jake Tapper Alex Thompson book.

Yeah.

Who Jake was completely surprised by all of this.

Was he?

He was completely surprised.

He was like, whoa, wait a minute.

I should write a book real quick.

You know, so

he is just very, he was completely caught off guard.

Nobody in the media or writing these books had any idea that Joe Biden wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed,

wasn't playing basketball every afternoon.

They had no idea.

You know, the last time they saw him, he was sharper than the sharpest guy they've ever seen.

I know.

The thing that was devastating to me was I was convinced he was just running circles around his 25-year-old staffers.

Yeah.

And then to learn that actually he wasn't running around anything because he needed to put him on a chair with wheels was a disappointing

awakening.

You know, here's the thing.

I don't have a problem with somebody in a wheelchair.

I own FDR's wheelchair and I think I bought it for the museum because I think it is,

it should be the symbol of us winning World War II.

Now, he hid it.

I mean, the reason why the Resolute Desk has that little door in the front, you know, that John John was, you know, opening up and that picture with John F.

Kennedy and his son opening up the door underneath the desk.

That was never there.

That was not part of the Resolute Desk.

FDR had that installed because that desk was in the map room where he used to do his fire shot side chats.

And he didn't want anybody taking pictures of him in the wheelchair or his legs.

And so

you could see it until they put the door there and they finished the door, you know, just in time for him to.

die.

So he never, he never used it.

But he was embarrassed by the wheelchair.

I think that was his greatest greatest strength.

The guy couldn't walk, and yet he did.

The guy, I mean, he worked so hard with his son every day.

Imagine the strength that it took in his upper body and his son's upper body.

He would hold on to his son's arm.

His son would just put his arm out straight, and they rehearsed every day they worked out so they could do this.

So the son could look like he wasn't putting any effort into it.

He was just helping his dad.

You know, here, grab onto my arm, dad.

And

all of the son's strength of that one forearm

and FDR grabbing onto his arm,

that's what held him upright.

And then his son had to look like it was no big deal as FDR took all of his upper body strength to swing his legs out so he could walk because he had no power below the waist.

That is incredible as they were gassing people that were undesirable or had no quality of life because they had a wooden leg or they had crutches, let alone a wheelchair.

The guy who was in the wheelchair beat FDR.

I mean, beat Hitler.

That's fantastic.

So I think it's a sign of strength at times.

And if you need to be in a wheelchair, you need to be in a wheelchair.

And I think it would be embarrassing, you know, as you get older, you'd be like, I don't want to do this chair.

You know, you become that grumpy old man.

But the problem here is, is that no one in the White House said anything about it.

They made him literally made special shoes so he could stand.

Okay.

All right.

And then they were talking about after the election, he's got to go into a wheelchair because he just can't, he can't walk anymore.

Again, a lie.

Again, them lying to get themselves through this election.

That's the theme here and why it's really important.

It's not important that a guy has to go in a wheelchair in his 80s.

Right.

I hope I'm not, but I might be in a wheelchair when I'm 80.

I might be in a coffin.

Good God.

If you see 80, I'll be stunned.

You won't even be able to see 80 from like a peak near where you are in the distance.

We need to revel in this.

You seem to be like counting the salary right now.

And then I take over his show.

What's fascinating about this is not that he's going into a wheelchair.

Again, that's a normal human development.

The fact that we live long enough to get to a point where we need a wheelchair for lifelong wear and tear, hey, great.

It's that they lied to us over and over and over again.

In fact, the book talks about one of the lies.

And it's hard to see

how they could have been any more blatant about what was happening here.

I love this.

Throughout 2024, Biden aides told reporters that the president's halting walk was partly the result of him fracturing his foot in November 2020 and then refusing to consistently wear his walking boot.

In short, they said Biden was being undone by his own vigor.

Oh

my

gosh.

That's an awesome paragraph.

Oh my, I want that framed.

I want that framed.

That is, if that's not the press in a nutshell, if that's not our political parties in a nutshell, you're so stupid.

But there is a line here, and I don't know.

I'm struggling with it a little bit.

It's incredible.

First of all, how did you believe that?

You didn't.

You didn't.

You didn't.

But there's a line here to me because

the media always is going to have this pathetic excuse of just saying, well, we were told this by the aides in the White House and we reported it.

And they're going to be able to say that and probably with some accuracy.

It's probably what happened, right?

The aides probably did just tell them that and they just wrote it.

And that's pathetic, and we should criticize their job performance, right?

That's one part of this.

Let me just say, in defense of

some of the reporters that didn't have, you know, eyewitnesses, you were on the edges and you couldn't see any.

Sure.

If that's all that you're given, you could speculate, but you can't print that as a news story that he can't walk.

He should be in a wheelchair.

You could

speculate, you can comment on it, you know, but you'd have no evidence.

You could

theoretically

follow up and be persistent.

If you wanted a real answer, you could do your job better.

By the way, as I've noted multiple times, Alex Thompson, the co-author of the book with Jake Tapper, was one of those reporters who was doing that

at the actual time.

Why would he pick Jake Tapper?

I guess because Jake Tapper is the only one with any credibility that's left

for CNN for those who are still watching CNN.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably a big name.

I don't think everyone knows Alex, which they should have.

So they think they, you know, and look, I think that helps.

Nobody knew Michael Schellenberger.

No, it's true.

Now Michael is a big name because, I mean, and he didn't go, hey, Jake.

I know you were part of the problem.

I don't know.

I mean, the Jake thing is a separate part of this because I think it's interesting what happens with a book like this.

And this is what I don't want to necessarily focus only on the media and the story because with Tapper,

he comes out and he was not the worst offender of this, by the way,

when we went through that period.

I mean, people like Joe Scarborough, they don't write this book, right?

He lied every day as a central part of his show about this topic.

And he doesn't come out and write the book, and everyone kind of just like forgets about it.

Where Tapper does write the book, and now he's going to be hit over the head over and over and over again because of the one or two clips that are out there, which I would say are somewhat offensive.

You know, I wouldn't mind having Jake, you know, because they asked, do you want to have Jake Tapper on?

I'm like, no.

But maybe I would.

I would like to take that approach and just talk to him about that.

Because it is one thing, most people just never admit it.

And I don't think, I mean, has Jake Tapper admitted that we really did a lousy job?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean,

I would say this book kind of says that.

When it comes to reading that, I'm going to have to have Grock read that book for me.

I want to read the book.

I do.

I actually think I'm hopeful, especially with Alex's reporting through this period.

I mean, again, we're learning about this wheelchair story from this book.

Like, I mean, I do think, I actually have some hope that there will be something in there.

And, you know, so we do have to say that.

I want to know about the press.

I want to know, I want to know who actually did know, but was keeping it quiet because we can't let Trump win.

I want to know that too.

However, it's my second priority.

My first priority is: I want to know every little bit of

the people in the White House who are our employees

lying to the press about this.

The press

there is legitimately

criminal activities done by them.

Bad reporting is bad reporting, and those people should be punished for their job performance when they have bad.

But that's different from what they did in the White House.

We went through a period where we basically had no president for a couple of years and we were constantly being lied to by government employees, which every one of their text messages is part of the government record.

No, this is what really makes me so angry.

I'm telling you, if Pam Bondi, and I don't think it's her fault.

I think it's that the DOJ is so riddled with leftists that they can't...

They just can't do anything right now.

You know, they're still waiting for some more people to be appointed by Congress or the Senate.

And I don't know if she has the people around her.

This is what I'm hearing, that she just doesn't have the people around her yet to really make any big progress because it is so bogged down with statists and leftists.

Well, we're hearing that from, and we're hearing that from high levels in the government.

Like this is in the Trump administration.

Yes.

Like people who are saying, hey, this is not Pam's issue.

Right.

So that might be true.

But if they don't fix that and the president doesn't come out and start to to say,

here's why no progress is being made on these things, because this should be investigated.

I don't know if anybody could go to jail over this.

I mean, I would like it if they've broken a law.

I have.

And I don't know what law that would be.

But they hid this stuff.

And more importantly than hiding it are the...

Who was it that used the auto pin?

If you look at all of the things that were signed by Autopin, as he started to decline, the last year and a half, half, the AutoPin was almost exclusively used.

Well, who was feeding those in?

What was this person?

That's what he was talking about.

Yeah.

He said to Jake Tapper in one interview, I didn't do that.

Yes, you did today, sir.

No, I didn't do that.

You did today, sir.

You just signed it.

And he had no idea.

No idea.

Well, who was doing it?

That's what I want to know.

And that person should go to jail.

Right, because, you know, how many times, gone, have you done shows about what happened with Woodrow Wilson back in the day?

I mean, first of all, that number is too high

to calculate.

But I mean, specifically on the fact that he wasn't even president for a while.

His wife was running the show.

He had a stroke and he was incapable of a lot of people.

He had a stroke.

He was giving a speech in California.

He had a stroke in the middle of just stop talking.

And everybody's like, what is going on?

Kind of like

Mitch McConnell.

Just stop talking.

And so they put him on a train.

They bring him back to Washington.

They put him up in the White House because he's had a massive stroke.

He can't communicate.

He can't do anything.

They're not even sure he could understand anything.

His wife hid it and left him up in the bedroom and she just kind of took over for a while.

And she would take, she would attend all of the meetings and say, my husband is just in bed.

He's sick, but he wanted me to attend and take notes.

She would take notes and then take and go up.

talk to a man who really wasn't there and then say,

okay, so here's what he wants to do.

And then take the bills up to him, put his hand on the pin, and then she would sign it.

The original auto pin.

Yeah, the original auto pin.

That's how Woodrow Wilson worked in the last year.

But it was his own party that ratted him out.

It was his own party because he was going to run for another term, a third term.

And his party was like, we haven't even seen the president.

We need to see the president.

Minor issue.

Yeah.

And they would keep coming over, and then she's like, ah, no, he's just having a bad day.

And finally, they said, we're exposing this.

Whatever is going on, you're going to be in trouble.

And so she brought him down and he did fairly well, but they knew he wasn't really in charge of his faculties.

And she said, he's going to run for another term.

And they said, no, no, he's, no, he's not.

He's not going to run.

But it was them.

It was the Democrats that did it.

Yeah.

And that's huge.

Right.

But what I think here when you think about this is like, that's 100 years ago, right?

This just happened.

Just happened.

This is not a historical, can you believe this could happen in our country?

This just occurred right here.

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God only knows what could happen.

This is not a figurehead position.

The president is the one who is the commander-in-chief, makes the decision.

The buck stops with him.

If you don't know who is at the end of that, actually making the decisions, you don't have a country.

You really do have an oligarchy where where powerful people behind the scenes are the ones pulling all of the strings and levers.

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Tell me if you think this is accurate.

They have one shot at this reconciliation bill

that's coming up, the big beautiful bill.

Yes.

That's right around the corner.

They're working very hard on that right now.

That is the priority, quite clearly, of what they're doing outside of the day-to-day.

They think they want to get that to the president's desk by July 4th, which is a super heavy lift.

But I think they're also aware enough to know that there is a good chance that

they lose

some form of the,

whether it's the House or whatever.

And I think they're trying to prioritize this, thinking that

they can jam in an investigation or something in year two

when the reconciliation bill isn't the priority.

Essentially,

they're putting that as essentially the next step.

That's good to know that

our Congress and Senate can really only focus on one thing.

I'm not saying it's a good thing.

We wouldn't accept that from any other branch of government.

Also, I'm concerned you could get it done in time.

And if you lose the House, then the investigation is going to go away.

So I think, like,

again, these are government employees largely.

Some of them are campaign people, too.

But, like, these are people that you can.

get these records, you can get these emails, you can get these text messages, you can get their signal chats.

Everyone loves looking at signal chats these days, going after those, which are,

we own them.

National Archives.

They're National Archives.

This is information we own.

They obviously were talking about this.

They've shown no ability to restrain themselves when in private.

We have to know

how far this went.

It may just have been, hey, gosh, he doesn't look good.

I don't know.

But the guy should be in a wheelchair.

And it's just a conversation that they don't talk about.

Not from that crime.

Not from the people who say, don't ever let a crisis go to waste.

I don't justify the means.

I don't believe that's all it was.

I don't either.

If that's what it was, that's what it was.

And we look at this and wow, wow, that was a crazy time.

I can't believe that happened.

And we move on.

After an investigation.

After an investigation,

this has to be taken a little bit more seriously.

Right now, it's kind of like, gosh, can you believe what they did with Joe Biden?

It's like, that's this is a much more serious issue.

You literally lost your republic.

We were not a republic represented by people that people voted for.

That's how you have to understand this story.

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Yesterday, I don't know if you've been watching these baby videos that are coming out.

I could watch them forever.

I can't tell you how many times my wife and I have watched the one with the baby interviewing the dog.

Oh,

so funny.

It was just hysterical.

But

yesterday, somebody on our staff

took something that Stu and I were talking about when it came to the Pope.

And

Stu said, and this is his real name, he wanted to have Pope what's Pizzabala?

Pizza Balla, yeah.

Pizza Balla.

And they took it and they put it in baby form.

If you're listening to the radio, you're going to miss out on this, but if you're watching us on X or YouTube or Blaze or wherever you're watching us,

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Watch.

But some now information that is coming from us, and we don't know our butt from our elbow on the Conclave.

But we're going to talk about it anyway.

Can we at least discuss how awesome the names are?

Yeah.

My favorite right now, I don't know anything about his politics.

Pizza Balla.

The guy's last name is Pizzabala.

P-I-Z-Z-A-B-A-L-L-A.

Pizza Balla.

He's a baller.

I love that.

That's incredible.

I just love it.

It looked like

a serious

discussion.

I love it.

I know.

I mean, it is so incredible.

Imagine that couldn't have been done six months ago.

No, I mean, it looks completely

real.

I mean,

it looks like as if it's like Hollywood quality.

Right.

You know,

like, like the new version of what was it was it three men and a baby or what was the one who's look who's talking who's talking that's what I'm thinking and there was a do you remember there was some

uh there was some uh Super Bowl commercial where the baby was talking oh yeah uh yeah with investment yeah e-trade yeah e-trade and remember E-Trade baby loved it and it it was really good but it didn't look like this this looks exactly like These babies are real and they're actually talking.

It's incredible.

It really is.

Have you seen the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump?

Hold on just a second.

Can you put that picture back up of me as the baby?

Because I have to bring in a picture of me about that age.

It's almost exactly what I looked like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's almost exactly what I looked like.

All right.

Anyway, the one between Trump and Joe Biden?

Yeah, they've been debating for a long time.

A lot longer than people would imagine.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay.

Go ahead and roll that.

There are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.

That's better than when he left office.

And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total

on

the total

eyes.

I really don't know what he said at the end of this.

I don't think he knows what he said either.

Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country.

That $2 trillion tax cut benefited the very wealthy.

What I'm going to do is fix the tax system.

For example, we have a thousand trillionaires in America.

I mean, billionaires in America.

And what's happening?

They're in a situation where they, in fact, pay 8.2% in taxes.

If they just paid 24% or 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raise $500 million,

I should say, in a 10-year period.

We'd be able to wipe out his debt.

We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do.

It is, it's remarkable.

And notice, it's because you're done.

You just feed it in, and it produces this.

Did you notice that

it had

Joe Biden's eyes?

Yeah, facial expression.

How do you get it to take on the appearance of

a person?

I think it's just taking their face, digitizing it, and then de-aging to a baby state.

I will say, Biden even looks old as a baby.

Which is incredible.

Yeah.

I mean, there are babies that look a little like Winston Churchill.

You know what I mean?

You're like,

okay, he needs to burp.

It's amazing.

I just love it.

Anyway, let's talk a little bit about the plane that Donald Trump has been offered by the Qataris.

Yeah.

I'd have to say a big no on that.

Yeah, me too.

Me too.

I mean,

the president's not going to care what I think about this, but it's just not a good idea.

I mean, I understand why he's doing it.

I don't get what's going on at Boeing.

How is it possible that it takes 17 years to build up the plane?

I was in the oval and the

plane, the Boeing plane, the model of it is on the coffee table.

Okay.

And when he walked in, I happened to be.

The new one.

Yeah.

And I was sitting on the couch and he comes in and I stand up and he comes over to me and

we were talking for a second and I said, by the way, this really pisses me off.

What Joe Biden did to refigure that whole deal

and then how Boeing has just blown this off is really frustrating.

It is.

I thought

five minutes into it, I thought, I shouldn't have brought that one up.

That one's hitting a little close to home because he was smoked.

Oh, really?

He was smoked.

I bet he was.

I mean, he's like, what does the United States of America do?

You got Boeing.

What am I going to get by an Airbus?

I can't buy an Airbus.

And he's like, if this was a private company,

if I wasn't the president of the United States, he's like, I think I would be suing them right now, but the president can't sue Boeing.

Yeah.

So, what, what, honestly, this is your money.

What do you do?

Not only that.

You know what the contract was?

$3.9 billion.

And they say that's not enough.

I know.

They can't finish it for that.

I know.

Are you kidding me?

And Trump said to me, he said, it may be 2027, 28.

He said.

They're saying 2035.

Yeah, they're saying maybe 10 years.

That's what he said.

said.

It'll be 10 years, Glenn, before we see that plane.

The plane we have.

The plane we have right now is

from 1990.

It was the plane that Ronald Reagan ordered.

Okay.

George W.

Bush, or I'm sorry, George H.W.

Bush was the first president to fly in it.

And it's because Reagan ordered it.

What do you mean it's going to take until 2035?

They ordered it in 2018.

Right.

Right.

That is a company that is completely out of control.

Radically wrong.

Radically wrong.

At Boeing.

Yeah, radically wrong.

So no wonder, you know, he's open.

I wouldn't mind if, you know, if a country had, you know, a plane like that, if Qatar had a plane and we decided, you know what, Boeing, we're cutting the contract.

Yeah.

And then buying that plane from any country, as long as we could make sure that it was sound and everything else, but buying that plane and then bringing it over here and saying, okay, make this air force one and putting everything into it if it was great britain i'd be fine with that i don't mind

if we bought it from them i wouldn't i wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that i mean we buy things from qar qatar buys things from us i don't agree with qatar is not a friend of ours sorry they're not a friend fund terrorists has hamas hezbola the muslim brotherhood is largely from qatar uh and under the direction of qatar we we are not friends with qatar we shouldn't be.

Trump is close with the Qataris.

I mean, every president seems to end up being close to the Qataris, but they are whitewashing their Hamas.

You know, they're largely responsible for a lot of the really bad stuff that goes on, and they never get credit for it.

Yeah.

And they need to.

But, I mean, if you're going to buy something from them, that's fine.

Buy it.

By the way, did you see the

buying a plane that is going to carry our president around?

That's what I said.

As long as it can be fully vetted.

I don't know what they could hide or what could happen.

No, I don't know that we would either.

That's the concern.

I know, I know.

I know.

But that would be my concern.

I mean,

the appearance of it, especially because, again, it's not just going to the presidency.

It's going to the presidency until the day that Trump leaves and then goes to Trump's library.

That just looks bad

politically for a million different reasons.

It really does.

Really bad.

But

my real concern over it, even more than that, would be whether whether it's secure.

That it's built out of 95% listening devices.

Right.

Now, with even more listening devices.

Yeah.

But I don't know if that's.

It's listening device is made out of listening devices.

I'm not even sure that that is possible because they would have to go in and they would have to strip that thing.

They just don't trust them.

Yeah.

You know?

Just don't trust them.

Going back to your Oval Office conversation, though, is this just something where

he is overton windowing all of us again, which is what he does.

He's saying, Hey, we should wake up.

Maybe we need to cancel this with Boeing.

Yeah, I wonder, honestly, because he just left it at that.

He just ranted for a while about how incompetent this is, how bad this is, how much trouble Boeing must be in to treat the United States of America like this.

And

so maybe.

The most important plane we have: it's going to take you 17 years to finish and $4 billion plus.

Come on.

It's just wrong.

It's just so wrong.

So wrong.

I mean, if

Boeing, I don't know what you're doing, Boeing.

I don't know whose plane you're working on that takes priority, but

I think you would want to move the president's plane to the top of the list, seeing that, you know,

you know what Air Force One costs us just to maintain?

It is.

Let me see if I can find the stats on this.

It is stunning because it's 19, it's 1980

and

so out of date.

If a part goes down, they have to have it specifically made.

There's no part store anymore.

Yeah, because these are old

parts.

Yeah.

And so

when they fly it, it is like, I think it's,

ah, shoot, I have it someplace.

I think it's like

three or four hundred thousand dollars an hour, like $2.99 an hour

to fly it.

That includes the uh the fuel, the crew, and hourly maintenance.

Okay, so two hundred and ninety-nine thousand dollars an hour.

And they say, in additional stuff, because this is all classified, they have to estimate, but they estimate that just the repairs on these, because we have two of them, just the repairs to keep them flying now is anywhere between $40,000 40 and 60 million dollars every year

i mean

wow i don't know boeing you might want to pick it up a little bit you know until well i mean wait a minute hang on just a second we do have the enola gay and the wright brothers plane in the smithsonian maybe we can use those for the president

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That plane, the Qatari aircraft, been sitting in San Antonio for a while, apparently.

I don't know why, but I want to go to San Antonio.

I want to go on it.

Yeah, we can make use of that, right, Clint?

I think a lot of times people just park their old cars around or whatever, and they think that, you know,

and if they sit there too long,

they don't run.

So we will make sure to run used to that over the next few weeks.

Yeah, It would be cheap to do that, too.

I just love to see it, but it's sitting there.

Here's the president talking about it.

Let me tell you,

you should be embarrassed asking that question.

They're giving us a free jet.

I could say, no, no, no, don't give us, I want to pay you a billion or $400 million or whatever it is.

Or I could say, thank you very much.

You know, there was an old golfer named Sam Sneed.

Did you ever hear him?

He won 82 tournaments.

He was a great golfer.

And he had a motto, when they give you a putt,

you say, thank you very much.

You pick up your ball and you walk to the next hole.

A lot of people are stupid.

They say, no, no, I insist on putting it.

Then they putt it and they miss it.

And their partner gets angry at them.

You know what?

Remember that, Sam Sneed.

When they give you a putt, you pick it up and you walk to the next hole and you say, thank you very much.

You know, I don't, I actually like that.

And I don't think that he could be bought.

You know, I don't think he's going to be bought for, you know, he's just not going.

He's not that kind of guy.

However, I just don't like the optics of it.

But there is part of me that goes, yeah, they're going to give it to us.

As long as it's secure,

take it.

They get nothing in exchange.

Take it.

Yeah.

You know, obviously we've accepted,

you know, presidents have accepted presents before.

The issue is not.

They usually go to the archives or whatever.

So this, the thing I don't like about it is if he takes it, it's not going to him.

It's going to the Defense Department first because the Air Force runs Air Force One.

So go to the Defense Department, and that's who's getting the gift.

But then when he leaves office, I think it would be much better if he would take it to say, no, not when I leave office.

When Boeing delivers Air Force One,

when they are done, and it might be 10 years, then that jet can be retired.

But until that time, it belongs to the United States and the people of the United States.

That would be the thing for him to say and

do that would soften it.

But I think there's, it's, you know, if you really don't think he should have it or take it,

A, you really need to look up what the cost of these two planes are that we are getting from Boeing and the cost of what the two old planes are costing us to keep it in the air.

And it's, it's not good.

The president, I don't think, is safe in the, I mean, he's safe, but this is 1990s.

This plane is from the from 1990.

Okay.

So it's way out of date.

With that being said, it's fine.

President can go in an old plane.

But if you really don't want him to take it, then you should put the heat on Boeing.

Shouldn't be on the president.

It should be on Boeing.

What the hell are you doing, Boeing?

And I don't know.

I could be wrong on this, but that's what it feels like to me is that this is his way of turning up the heat on Boeing.

You act like he's such a good negotiator.

You're acting like he always moves the Overton window up.

He certainly does.

He does.

Yeah.

Well, what are you doing, Boeing?

I mean, the outrage really should be on Boeing today.

Let's save your outrage on see if he actually takes it or if this is a ploy.

But everyone should be paying attention to Boeing.

You've taken our money.

Where's the plane?

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Hello, America.

There's a lot going on.

Yeah, I know a lot of people want to talk about Air Force One and Qatar.

We talked about it for a few minutes, but I would just, if I may quote the Federalist,

it took America less time to win and fight World War II

than it is for Boeing to complete two planes.

What does that say about the America that you grew up in?

What does that say about American companies, American ingenuity?

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So, you know, I've been watching Europe for a while now.

We've talked about Europe and

the race to death that they seem to be in.

And right now,

you have the Prime Minister of England, Starmer, you have the President of France, and you have the Chancellor of Germany all meeting, taking time on a train, not to do Coke.

I mean, maybe, but I don't think so.

But to actually

talk about things.

And what were they talking about?

A new treaty aimed at at resetting British relations with the European Union

Okay, I mean, I guess that's I guess that's you know

Great

But did they hear what the the Swedish prime minister has just come out and said this is the prime minister of Sweden quote

We do not have control over the wave of violence and that is quite obvious

Yeah,

their prisons are overcrowded.

They've got

they've been overrun with refugees that are not assimilating.

And you're about to lose Sweden.

And when Sweden falls, Brussels falls.

When Brussels falls, France falls.

When France falls, England falls.

Germany falls.

That's what's coming in our lifetime.

And probably not too far in our lifetime.

You know, they say history doesn't repeat itself, but I'm telling you, it does rhyme.

Okay.

And as you watch...

Europe, not as a tourist watches a cathedral crumble, but as a man on shore watches a wave growing on the horizon going, I think that's coming towards us and it's getting bigger.

Not fast, but undeniable.

It's not just about England or France or Sweden.

It's not about immigration or economics or even culture.

It's about something much deeper.

A civilization that has forgotten what made it strong in the first place, what made it free.

And we are down that same path.

And we have a chance to change that.

And there are a lot of people that are awake, but there's far too many that are not.

And

they're living in this dream world that we can have it all, that America can just keep going on the way it's been going on.

And if they don't believe that, there's another category of people.

And that category is the people who are like, oh, it's just going to be civil war.

Well, bring it on.

No, no.

Have you seen Haiti?

That's what happens with countries that go into civil war.

You don't want that.

Now, Ayan Hersiali, somebody I really, really respect, she's a woman who stood against actual darkness, against radicalism, censorship, the silencing of truth, you name it.

She has been through it.

She just said recently an answer to the question, what is your biggest fear that keeps you up at night?

And she said that Europe will collapse.

She said that's very real and it's happening.

Not that it will decay, not that it will decline, but it will collapse into violence.

You know, Europe is not just a continent, it's a cultural mirror.

Because America was born out of its legacy.

of Athens, of Rome, of Jerusalem, and even London.

If Europe falls into chaos, it's not some far-off event.

It is a warning shot across the Atlantic, and we are no longer insulated because of this global nightmare.

Remember when they said the banks are too big to fail.

We got to bail them out.

Why did they say that?

Because all of the banks were connected to one another.

So when one fails, it's catastrophic failure across the entire system.

That's why Europe matters.

It's why America matters.

Western Europe is going through massive

internal pressure, and the people know it, but

their leaders are on a train, you know, talking about how can we bring Brexit

to its knees?

The real problem here is our problems are spiritual.

The old guard that actually believed in liberty and faith and sovereignty, They've been replaced by technocrats and bureaucrats and a generation that has been raised to believe that nothing is sacred, that borders are immoral, that the past is shameful and the future belongs to anyone but them.

You don't have a society.

You don't have a civilization if that's what the next generation believes.

Now you layer in all of the stuff that makes us fragile, a fragile economy, aging populations,

dependency on foreign energy, millions of migrants, most of them not actually refugees, and certainly most of them have not assimilated.

Many of them, especially the young men, alienated, angry, and they see the host country not as refuge, but as weak, ripe, ready.

You know, when I say the host countries for these refugees, you know, there's another way to use the word host.

And that is for a parasite.

It needs a host.

And it burrows itself in, and it just will consume that host body until it kills it, and then it'll find another host.

Well,

killing it to this parasite, killing it is a good thing.

Killing the West is a very good thing.

And this, by the way, is not conjecture.

Riots in Paris, stabbings in London.

whole neighborhoods where police dare not enter.

All of the things that you were told were just rumors, they were lies, they were conspiracy theories.

Political leaders afraid to even name the threat because now the truth is hate speech.

If you think America is divided, Europe is fractured.

So, what happens when the pressure becomes too much and things finally break, when governments lose control?

Like the prime minister in Sweden just said,

we can no longer control

the wave of violence.

Well, when you can't control that, you certainly civil services are shut down.

What happens when you're not sending out checks?

What happens when nationalism to the extreme, not the good kind of nationalism, the very dangerous nationalism returns?

Not with pride, but with rage.

I mean, I think we've seen this in Europe a couple of times before in the last century.

It never ends peaceful, not with peaceful elections and orderly debates.

No, it usually ends up with some short little guy.

That's how it ends traditionally in Europe.

So what does that mean for us?

This is what I want you to understand.

Whenever you see anything happening in Europe, I want you to understand how close it is.

Do you remember that feeling we all had after September 11th?

when those planes crashed in to the towers and then they crashed in the field in Pennsylvania and then crashed into the Pentagon.

And we were like,

we are under attack.

And we all realized that day how fragile our freedom in our country really was, that it could be taken from us overnight.

We seem to forget that and we go into this dream world that it'll always be this way.

But I want you to understand

when Europe collapses, the American markets collapse, banks probably collapse, prices through the roof, supply chain completely breaks, you're looking at a different world.

And then you get the refugees because there will be millions of desperate people that are actually going to be refugees because the violence is so horrid in their European countries.

They'll have to get out and they will flood people's borders.

They will come across the ocean.

And then what do we do?

Then what do we do?

And when Europe falls, who fills the void?

Russia, China, Iran?

Don't think they haven't been thinking about this.

Don't think they aren't watching and waiting.

Because

we're too busy with our drag shows and

are debating our pronouns.

And they're studying war.

They're preparing for what they see is inevitable in every other instance of every other civilization.

You hit these markers and you collapse.

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so then what

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We have so much work to do to really be self-reliant.

Can you read a map anymore?

Do you think your kids can read a map?

Not a chance.

Can they read a map?

Do they know how to read a compass?

Do they know how to chart their course with the sun and stars?

Not a prayer.

My kids, if they get down to the stars, if I get down to the stars and the sun, forget it.

We're not going anywhere.

But these are some of the foundational things that we have to, we need to educate ourselves.

And we don't have to start there.

We should get there, but we don't have to start there.

And it's not on current events.

We have got to stop getting our news from social media.

If social media is all that you read

and the way you get your news, you're a danger to yourself and everyone around you because you will be convinced that you know what's going on.

I see a social media.

I'm on my feet all the time.

How do I know?

You have no idea.

You're a danger.

We need to study about Weimar Republic, about the Balkans, about the collapse of Rome.

Because history is not just history.

It's not just a story.

It's a user's manual.

And when you see history, you're like, ah, don't do that.

And then you can build up resistance, resilience, not just food and water,

but emotional resilience, spiritual clarity.

How many of us could face a massive storm, lose everything you have,

everything you have,

not know what the future holds, and you still have your spiritual clarity.

A lot of people will say, oh, I will.

But, you know, as I talk to Special Forces friends who, you know, have been tortured, they all say the ones who said, oh,

I wouldn't give up a thing.

They all say they're the first to break because they're arrogant.

They haven't really thought it through.

Well, you have, what do you have to do right now to have spiritual clarity, moral grounding?

Because chaos isn't going to just take your house or your job.

It takes the sense of who you are and puts you into a place where you're like, I'll do anything to survive.

But would you, should you do anything to survive?

The third thing we have to do is after we learn and after we prepare ourselves, then we have to start standing for truth because the world has been hollowed out by lies, some soft lies, some cruel lies, but they all rot the soul and the soul of

who we are as a nation, as a civilization.

And when truth becomes dangerous and saying it becomes a revolutionary act,

you're in trouble.

And you have to be willing to speak, even when it costs you.

And more and more people are.

And that's the good thing.

You know, the West isn't going to fall this time when the bombs drop.

It falls when the people

who know better stop defending it.

Because they're too comfortable.

They're distracted.

They're too entertained.

They don't think it could happen to them.

Did you see the latest poll coming out of England?

Most young people have no desire to ever put on a uniform of their country to defend their country if it were under attack.

Now, I can't believe that's true, but that's what, that's how they're responding in polls.

Because and why is that?

Because they don't know.

They don't know what anything means anymore.

You know, when the cathedrals, you know, in Europe, the cathedrals

are all being repurposed if they're not being bombed?

They burned them down almost one a day now.

And they're all being repurposed.

And in many cases, they're literally being handed over to other gods.

And yet, too many of us are still just shrugging it off.

You know what happens in Brussels or Berlin or Birmingham?

We'll never touch Boise.

But rot always reaches its root.

The difference, the only difference, is time.

And we have some time.

So we should use it wisely.

Look, I hope what the president is doing is going to work.

But do you know it will work?

Because if you really understand how deep our problems go, I'm not sure it will work.

Think of what we're facing.

We're facing debt that no country has ever turned around on.

We are facing a cultural rot that no country has ever turned around on.

We have birth rates that no civilization has ever turned around on.

Now, I don't say that to depress you.

I say that to inspire you to say, okay, so what are you going to do about it?

Because you could either give up or you can do something about it.

We first have to decide what is worth saving.

We have to teach this to our kids.

What's worth saving?

What is good about this society, about this civilization?

What's beautiful?

I mean, you wouldn't think anybody would understand beauty and art when we've got...

I was at a museum over someplace in Europe, in Italy, just the other day, and it was,

it was rebar.

It was rebar that they had rusty rebar, that's what took the time, wrapped around a cement pole and that was sitting next to a Greek statue as art

I'm sorry one of those things will be found in the dust and rubble of a civilization and they'll go my gosh look at this civilization the other will go that's dust and rubble throw it away says nothing about us

except that we are a society that no longer even recognizes beauty.

We are being told what's beautiful.

Have you ever gone into a museum and you see things and you're like, what the hell is that?

Now, I go into museums and I see stuff all the time that I don't like.

I wouldn't want to hang in my wall, but I can appreciate it.

But I'm sorry, the cement post with a rebar wrapped around it.

You know what that is?

That's a scam.

That is the elite probably being scammed by the artist.

You know, like, you know, it really is the meaning behind that one.

Or

the museum going, yeah, well, it's meaningless.

And that's where you find beauty is in meaningless, meaninglessness.

Well, no, you don't.

You don't.

Everything has meaning.

And if it doesn't, you should stop doing it.

We all have to find the meaning in our life.

That's why our kids are killing ourselves.

They don't think there's meaning in anything.

Well, why would they?

There's no meaning in social media.

There's no meaning in their friends.

There's no meaning in the likes.

There's no meaning in anything anymore.

That is what we have to repair.

We have to find the things that have meaning and bolster them and bring them closer in our lives with courage and conviction, not fear, but resolve.

And the time is growing shorter and shorter every day.

History is watching what we will do right now.

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So our in-studio producer, Sarah, Sarah Sullivan, has been working with me for 25 years, almost.

And

I love talking to her because she's, I mean, she drinks a lot because, you know, she has to listen to this every day.

And we got into the break.

And what did you just say to me?

I said that you can say it's not depressing all you want, but it's depressing.

And that is, is you know that is that that was me trying to explain to you what what the truth is and sometimes the truth can be um depressing you're right however let me re let me rephrase the optimistic part

why

is boeing

why did we order two 747s in 2018

and now Boeing is saying they could come at 2028, which is a 10-year period, two planes, but it may not be out until 2035 or 36.

How is that possible?

How is that possible?

I'll tell you how.

They have forgotten who they are.

That's all that is required.

You know, and I don't think the workers have, because I look, my family, much of my family worked at Boeing, still does.

They're working every day at Boeing, and they love Boeing.

They don't like what it's become because they know what it used to be like because of their parents or our grandparents.

And they know what Boeing is capable of.

The reason why it takes this from Boeing, and we're accepting it, is because all of us have become like this.

We have become a society where no one says,

yes, we can.

We can do that.

Yes, we can.

Nobody says that, except if it's used by a politician to use as a slogan to promote dependency on a government,

because what they're really selling you is, no, you really can't.

But with the government, you can.

That is not America.

It's not America.

We have to remember who we are and what the secret is.

And the secret is remembering the principles that got us here in the first place.

And then saying, yeah, I can do that.

I can do that.

I can do anything.

You've been convinced that you can't or you're not allowed to.

What are you talking about?

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Boeing, shame on you.

Shame on you.

Every employee should be going in and saying to the management, shame on you for shaming us.

Shame on you.

You've become so much about, I don't even know what, the numbers, corruption, DEI, I don't even know what your problem is, Boeing, but it didn't start with the workers.

It started in the home office.

It starts on the floor where all the elites are gathering.

You've made it about something else other than building airplanes.

And, you know, people will think that they have no way to change things.

Imagine what it was like in World War II.

In World War II,

you're just ahead of a company and

you can't turn things around.

Yesterday,

I bought something.

I traded, I collect watches, and I traded almost all of them in for one watch because this watch is so important historically.

And I'm wearing it today.

And it's called the POW watch

because it comes from POWs.

Back in World War II,

the president of Rolex didn't know what to do.

Didn't know how he could help.

And he's reading about all the prisoners that are in POW camps in Germany.

And he wants to do something.

So

he sends the head guy, the head POW

of the camp like a box of watches.

And it's like, you give them out to whoever you think deserves them or needs them.

And

don't worry about paying us back.

Well, he's doing it as a gift.

But what happens?

These are some of the first

Daytonas.

This is before the Daytona was ever made, the chronograph on the front.

So the guy gets it, and he's like,

wait a minute, now we have a precision way to time things.

We can time the changing of the guards.

We can time how long it takes for them to come around and we can find the averages.

We now know time because we have a precision timepiece.

The guy at Rolex, he had no idea what he was doing.

If you've ever watched the movie The Great Escape, that's a true story.

We have many of the pieces over at the museum.

We have a piece of the pedestal that the old Franklin stove sat on that they had to move as they were digging.

We have a ton of the stuff that they used.

But one of the most important things they used was a watch.

Just like this one, a POW watch.

There's only a handful of them left.

Why are they important?

Because it was the watch that helped them escape.

Helped them escape.

It didn't do the work for them.

The first thing they had to remember is they're not POWs.

They're not, they are British and American and French soldiers, and they are meant to be free, and they're meant to get out of there.

Now, there were people who were like, no, let's not do that.

It'll just cause so much trouble.

Thank God, the most of them said, yes, we can.

We're going to do it.

Now, Boeing, let me just give you this stat.

As you're sitting there thinking, we can't complete this airplane, Glenn.

It's really complex.

Let me just give you a couple of stats.

There were three escapes.

What were they?

Tom, Dick, and Harry?

I think that's what they were called.

Three different escapes.

Okay.

Let me just give you the stats on one of them.

They dug a two by two foot hole.

I mean, this gives me claustrophobia thinking about it.

They dug a two by two foot hole underneath the floorboards of one of the one of the,

you know, barracks.

Barracks.

They had to hide all of that

and they dig a two by two foot hole.

They first have to dig that

30 feet down.

Two by two foot hole, 30 feet down.

Then, and by the way, they don't have shovels.

They don't have any of that stuff.

Okay.

They're making whatever it is they use.

Then in that two by two foot hole, then they have to start digging 336 feet horizontally so they can get out from under the wire and arrive at the other side.

Okay.

336, two by two.

Just think about removing the dirt.

How do they remove that much dirt without getting caught?

And it might be easier when you're pushing dirt up from the from the hole for the first 30 feet.

But what happens when you're going 300 and what was it?

336 feet horizontally?

How do you get that dirt out?

They had to design almost a train track that was bringing that dirt out.

For every inch they did, every inch of dirt had to be removed.

And they couldn't just take it out in, you know, wheelbarrows and dump it someplace.

How could they move that much dirt without anyone knowing

that they were removing that much dirt?

They devised a system in

their pants.

to where each of them could put a little bit of dirt in their pants.

And then when they got out to the yard and they would walk around, they would slowly let that dirt fall onto their shoes and onto the ground as they walked, and then they just kind of kick it into place.

Do you know how much dirt that was?

And they never got caught.

Shame on you, Boeing.

You can't, oh, you can't finish a couple of planes.

Huh.

You know how long it took them to do that?

With no tools, no electricity, no lights, can't get caught, covering it all up,

10 months.

10 months.

It's called the Great Escape.

That's a really cute, uplifting story.

But did you know AI is going to be able to tell us what our pets are saying?

Okay.

All right.

I want you to know that what Sarah says is right.

Nobody's ever come back from this.

But no one had ever escaped from Stalag 13.

No one had ever done it.

No one had ever crossed the Rocky Mountains.

Nobody had ever gone to space.

No one had ever gone to the moon.

We are a nation of...

That's never been done before.

That's what we do.

That's who we are.

Europe, that's not you, but that is us.

Because every single one of us, someplace in our family history, somebody, if you've been here, you know, prior to what, maybe 1920,

if your family was here prior to 1920, you came over on a boat.

Do you know what that was like?

I don't want to go on a boat back then.

Especially if I was, you know, in the chattel class.

You know, my family, they came over here in the 1800s, and I can guarantee you, none of them were up on the top deck of the boat.

They were all down, you know, shoveling poop out the window.

I don't know what they were doing, but it wasn't pretty.

And now I'm going to piss this away when they worked so hard to get us here to have these.

See,

that again is the problem.

Once you forget why people came here in the first place, once you forget and are told, no, you can't.

You can't.

Yes, you can if the government will help you, but you can't do it on your own.

Once you're taught that and you forget who you actually are, this is why family heritage is so important.

Read about your family.

Figure out who your family is.

Do your family tree.

There's somebody in there.

In my family, when I got my family tree back,

this is what the person said to me.

I would like to tell you that there's somebody famous or great in your family, but we went back generations.

It's littered with nobodies.

However, I found two heroes in my family.

Two.

And they're not heroes by anybody else's standard, but they are mine.

I had two, I had a great-great-grandfather and a great-great-uncle that fought in the Civil War, and they were on the right side.

Now, because they're my relation, they were caught like the first week.

And they were put into Andersonville, the worst, most notorious.

I mean, you want to talk about Auschwitz.

That was Auschwitz of the South.

They were put there where thousands of people died.

It was horrific.

One of them died.

The other one survived and, according to his wife, was never the same from it.

I can imagine.

But they fought on the right side.

And one of them survived.

And nobody survived Andersonville.

But he did.

You have to find your strength.

Someplace.

You have to find who you really are.

You have to find, and you'll find it usually when you find find God, who you really are and the strength that you actually have inside of you.

And then if you happen to be part of a group, Boeing,

you need to look at each other and go, come on, man, is this us?

For the love of Pete, maybe it's because I grew up in Seattle.

You're Boeing.

You're Boeing.

That's what you want the world to think of you?

Boeing used to lead the way.

You're either going to lead the way or get the hell out of the way.

Give us our money back for those planes and we'll find some company that will build them here in America.

What are you doing?

Either do it right or get out of the way.

That's the message that should be heard from Boeing employees to their bosses.

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stu was just telling me about where is it riyadh yes riyadh saudi arabia so it's probably built with slaves but what did they just build uh bratt beard covered this uh a diverse entertainment hub in the heart of riyadh and it took, whoa, I mean, it's massive.

It looks like a giant Times Square times 10.

It took 118 days to build the entire thing from beginning to end.

We used to be able to do that stuff.

We did that with the World Trade, I'm not saying the World Trade Center, but with the Empire State Building.

We built that thing in like nine months.

Nine months?

The Empire State Building, back when old timey stuff was used to move that stuff.

I mean,

all it requires requires is just, I'm going to do that.

And that's, that, that is, that should be the hopeful part of this.

Once you know who you are, once you know what's worth saving, you know, is the West worth saving?

That's, I think, the first thing you have to answer.

Is it worth saving?

I think yes,

for a myriad of reasons.

Yeah, I think this culture is worth saving.

Not all of it, not the way it is.

I mean, it's sick right now, but it's worth saving the best parts of and then working to fix the parts that, you know, aren't so good.

You know, but science, rule of law, I mean, actual science, rule of law, free speech, all of those things that came from this culture.

I don't want to go back in the darkness.

I don't want to go backwards.

Those things are worth fighting for and standing for.

But you got to know what those things are first.

And then you have to decide, oh, you want to build the Empire State Building?

Oh, when do you need it by?

Whew, nine months.

All right, we can do that.

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I have one of my favorite people, Justin Haskins.

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He's the guy who we co-wrote the Great Reset, Dark Future, and Propaganda Wars.

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Well, hello, Justin.

How are you?

I'm doing great.

I'm doing really well.

It's great to be back here.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you for flying in.

I wanted to talk to you about AI.

I know you've been doing some research on

polling, and there's some good news and

some, I guess, some inevitable news as well.

But let me ask you, how are you feeling generally about the state of where we are in AI?

This is something in Dark Future, we really talked about.

We even talked about in the Great Reset and Propaganda Wars.

This is something I have been talking about for 30 years, 35 years, and it's here now.

How How are you feeling about where things are going?

Oh, I'm terrified.

I'm terrified.

Stu's going to, you know.

He's the odd man out of this conversation.

Are you not terrified?

I don't know.

Are you terrified?

I think he's deeply concerned.

You're not terrified.

I mean, of what part?

It going wrong.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely am concerned of the impacts it's going to have.

Yeah.

I'm not, I'm not, I mean, you guys can hit levels of being terrified over things that I can't do.

This is why he's a great partner for me.

It's because when I'm like, we're all gonna die, he's like, relax.

We're just gonna be maimed.

Relax.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

No, I'm very terrified.

And the reason why is because the things that we've been talking about for a long time, you especially, are happening in real time.

They are no longer, oh, and you know, maybe 10 years, this could, no, it's happening now.

It's here.

It's,

you know, I keep saying this.

I mean, it's 2025.

2028.

Look at what AI has done in the last 12 months.

Can you even imagine what life is going to be like in 2028?

The answer is no,

because it's going to be radically different by 2028, by 2030, radically different.

That's right.

Yeah.

And so the polling that I recently conducted, partnered with the Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Reports to do these polls, it illustrates, I think, for the first first time that people really are genuinely starting to get how serious the issue is.

Really?

Which is great.

I mean, that's great.

So we asked if people were concerned about AI.

And essentially, a little over 70% of likely voters say yes.

Cross the board.

Pretty much everyone's concerned about it.

I really haven't seen too many polls that show that.

So that's huge.

We also asked.

You know, the learning curve on this is almost straight up with the American people.

100%.

We also asked,

we said, do you believe believe that over the next decade, AI will be used more to empower individuals or to control them?

And 33% said empower.

42% said control.

So people believe.

Yeah, and the rest are, I don't know.

And so I think that, I think that's the good.

How would you answer that?

How would you answer that?

Because I think in the next, would you say next five years?

10.

Next 10 years.

I know what you'd say.

The next five, what would I say?

You would say control.

Come on.

No, I would actually say for the first three years in power, like crazy.

Yes.

And then as we get further away from that, control like nuts.

Yes.

Now, I have even better news before I get to the bad news.

This is rare.

I usually have no good news.

So I'm very excited about it.

We asked people, would you support a law?

Let's see if Stu will support this law.

Will you support a law that

at the state or federal level that would require developers and technology companies to design AI so that it protects human rights contained in the Constitution, such as freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression?

So in other words, AI companies have to design AI with Bill of Rights in mind.

I mean, the Bill of Rights is already the law of the land, right?

Not for the AI company.

Not for AI companies.

AI company is a

private company.

Do you think...

Well, the private companies have to live by the law.

Yeah, no, but

you're saying

they would have to design

and allow free speeches to be able to do it.

No, no, no, no.

It would have to be designed to make sure it helps enforce or can never violate free speech.

It could never say, nope, we're just going to shut all of you people down.

It has to be trained on the Bill of Rights as one of its

foundational principles.

Right, yeah.

Conceptually, obviously, I like the idea of that happening.

I'm not sure if that's the right approach.

Right.

But I'd have to put more thought into it.

Totally understand.

I asked voters.

I don't know.

He's wishy-washy.

I know.

By the time he decides to do that.

I'll actually carefully consider your question instead of just jumping to a conclusion.

Stu's in the minority on this one.

78% of likely voters, Democrats, Republicans, all age groups, 78% say yes.

So even more, even more good news.

Yes.

Stu's in the minority, I now work with a minority.

There you go.

You're driving

staff.

We're going to get all kinds of tax breaks.

I'm not going anywhere near that one.

Okay, so the bad news.

Yeah.

All right.

So there is some bad news in this.

There are things that at least I'm concerned about.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So we asked: would you support allowing AI systems to have access to health records,

financial data,

and other personal data?

No.

If, hold on, there's an if.

Okay.

If it meant that AI would have a better chance at curing diseases and solving other social and economic problems.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Underline, no,

capital letters, exclamation points, no.

Stu's gonna have a nuanced answer.

Well, I mean,

how are they getting access to this?

If we gave it to them.

That's the whole premise of it.

Would you support allowing AI systems to have access to it?

So do you have to go to the game?

No, wait wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Allow them to have access so I could opt out?

Yeah, but the question is really for you.

So would you want to give them deny access?

Yeah, no, would you allow them to have not for everybody?

It doesn't say that necessarily.

No.

I hopefully enough, I mean, because there would be benefits to this, right?

Massive ones if enough people gave them health data, right?

Massive.

So I would hope enough people did that.

But if enough people do it, then they have all of it.

Once they have the data on you, you're done.

What does that happen?

Like, what happens with that when it comes to your insurance rates?

Yeah, right.

There will be no insurance.

There will be no insurance.

It's not just health records, financial data and other personal data.

Way all of them.

I would not be supplying mine.

Okay.

Though we could acknowledge here, because this is what, was it Denmark that does this with health data?

They have the best studies that come out of Denmark.

They're incredible because the government forces all of their data to go into the studies.

Right.

Right.

So, like, there's part of me that likes the fact that we learn about that.

If you take it and erase all of the information so it's not tracked to you, it's never, you can never sort through it, but you can now.

But again, I wouldn't, I would like to say no.

I would hope that Justin would be nice enough to give his data so we can research on him.

Yeah, of course.

That's what Stu wants.

So 51% said yes.

51% said yes, and then 34% said either somewhat oppose or strongly oppose, and 15% said not sure.

So people seem very willing to allow this.

Because, you know, let me ask you something.

I was talking to somebody yesterday, and they said, what is happening to Utah?

I mean, the reddest red counties are in Utah, and they're just going crazy.

They're starting to really go left.

And I said, it's because...

Too many people just think, oh, well, you know, it's always fine because it's always been fine here and it's going to be great.

And so they're not paying attention.

And it's just slipping away from them like crazy.

The other thing is, why do you think the NSA built the entire

listening compound in Utah?

Now, I'll tell you why the NSA said they did.

Okay.

They said they did because it takes enormous amounts of water to cool those systems.

And Utah had such a huge supply of water.

It's the desert.

It's kind of dry, isn't it?

It's the desert, dude.

We know that's not right.

It's the desert.

I think they did it because people in Utah are compliant.

They want to get along.

They want to be good Americans.

They want to do the patriotic thing.

And they just, they go along to get along.

And Lance cheap, too.

Trouble.

Yeah, that's true.

I agree with that.

I think there's definitely

trouble.

So then another thing, kind of more

bad news, worse news in some ways.

Last question we asked was, many economists believe the AI will eliminate millions of jobs over the next decade.

If that happens, would you support a government program that taxes big tech companies and then uses the funds to provide every American with an income large enough to pay for basic necessities like housing, clothing, and food?

So we're talking universal basic income essentially paid for by big tech because AI took a lot of jobs.

You want my nuanced answer on this?

Yeah, sure.

No.

That is so amazing.

That is so amazing.

No.

It's so amazing.

May I give the nuanced answer on this?

Yes, give the nuanced.

What is your choice?

I said this.

I've been talking about this forever.

Remember, Stu, how many times?

And in our books, we have talked about universal basic income for decades now.

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You have to have another plan.

What's the alternative?

Yep.

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Okay, so here's my nuance on this.

A, what is your alternative?

I'd love to hear another alternative to this because AI is going to put the vast majority of people out of work.

That's why

I just did a monologue and didn't mention this, but I mentioned you've got to find meaning in life because when your job goes away, most men at least find meaning in what they do.

So what happens to just our

mental state of mind when there's no meaning in work anymore?

Because you're not working.

So you got to find meaning.

That's the first thing.

Second thing is,

You know, you said in that poll, taxed by

the corporations or taxed on the big tech companies.

They have been raping us of our information.

Literally, they have been taking it.

They didn't tell us at first, or we were too stupid enough to recognize it, but they built Google and everything else on your information, all of the information you've given them.

So they're making money off of you.

All the billions that they've made is off of your back.

So now that they're going to be so big and AI is going to take away our jobs, you know what?

They should pay us for that.

So, and I don't want a tax.

I don't want it to go to the government and to us.

No, no, you just write each of us a check yourself.

I don't need the middleman taking their share of it.

Yeah, I mean, this is basically Andrew Yang's position.

Andrew Yang, who has been taking this position for a decade or something like that.

I think the challenge with it is obviously we don't want government.

We don't want people dependent on government, right?

And this is one of those situations where they would be.

What are you going to do?

I mean, here's the thing.

You also have to balance, I mean, you want to talk about an oligarchy.

There's going to be five guys with all of the money on planet Earth.

Bezos will be one.

Maybe Zuckerberg will be one.

Bill Gates will be one.

Elon Musk will be one.

They will have almost all of the money in the West will go to five or six people

and companies.

No,

no.

I mean, I don't, I don't, you know, say, congratulations on your success.

I agree with you.

You can get as rich as you want.

However, if you've just destroyed all other ways for people to work,

I don't know.

Maybe you should pay me for helping build it, for the information I gave you.

And I guess part of my distinction here is I don't disagree that directionally you're right on a lot of the stuff.

Like, I think we're going that way.

don't think, at least in all of human history, there's, there, we usually find a way to to come to a different medium than than than the extreme nobody has a job and all money goes to five companies answer.

Like, I mean, I think there's a real solution, and we're seeing this already come out, um, that

where we're used to working 40-hour weeks might be a lot different, I think, in the future from this, where instead of maybe all of the 80% of the jobs going away, maybe we're working 50% left, fewer hours.

Oh, and that would be fantastic.

If we could get to a place to where you were working two days a week and you could make the money that you could live, that's great.

But who's good?

I mean,

you don't have, you know, you don't have the trucking jobs.

You don't, you just don't have all of the

jobs that are the hard labor stuff.

You just want that's going to go away.

And I think there's, so just before I make those comments, I should give the

answer.

Hold on, let's talk for 45 more minutes on this.

so we asked the we asked the question uh 62 of likely voters say they either strongly support it or somewhat support it 62 compared to only 22 percent who say that they are opposed in some way and who even knew about this when we started talking about it nobody heard of ubi nobody the the uh being the minority again there by the way yes that's right that's a theme i've noticed uh so the uh i would love to join you in that but i have not heard another

I mean, it's one thing to be against things.

We have to start thinking differently.

What are we for?

I want to be for something.

I am against that idea because it just creates even more dependency in slaves.

However,

millions, hundreds of millions, if not a billion people plus, are going to be out of work.

What do we do?

Right.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, again, to push down this road a little bit more than maybe we need to in this one question, but it's like

we get that way.

I think the left gets the way that you're thinking about this with global warming sometimes, where they're just like, this horrible thing's going to happen, we have to do something.

Well, we don't know every twist and turn of how this happens, and we can't make all of these decisions today.

I think if we try to, we're going to be like the environmentalists of 1910 who are worried about the dung from the horses piling up in Manhattan and not really be able to deal with these things.

I think the principles that we fall back on of the Constitution and

our system will oftentimes provide answers to these things, even if we don't know the questions are yet.

So, one of the really interesting things about this conversation is that put aside whether it's the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do,

in terms of policy, ideology, all of that.

And just ask yourself the question, in the moment when you have the rapid disruption, of millions of jobs going away,

politically, is it even even possible to say, you know what, the solution is?

Right.

We do nothing.

Right.

It's not.

And so, like, that's the thing I'm the most concerned about.

Is even if you're right, and I think you might be, I think it's really hard.

I don't know how you escape that part of the book.

Yesterday, I was filming with Prager University, and we were talking about the Great Depression.

And one of the guys was standing there, and I was like, oh, you know, let me show you something from the Great Depression.

I'll tell you why we have all of the Social Security and everything else.

And I pulled out that book from the Economic Committee for FDR, all these hand-drawn and colored charts about how if you don't do these things, there'll be such chaos on the streets that you'll have communism

because radicals will take charge because too many people are hungry.

Too many people need

something to give them hope and some job.

You've got to start creating jobs, even if the government creates them.

That's kind of the situation that we would find ourselves in with this.

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All right, we're with Justin Askins, the president of our republic and the editor-in-chief of stoppingsocialism.com.

He's also my co-author on the great reset, Dark Future, and Propaganda Wars.

I just, before we get back into this, I just have to say, I've seen the weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life.

Donald Trump was just announced at this big meeting in the Saudi Investment Forum.

Huge, enormous stage.

And they introduce him, and he he walks out to lee greenwood god bless the usa which is like a three minute and 37 second song i believe uh and he does you know when he when he when he when he does that here in america he walks out and everybody's singing and crying you know and waving their flags and so it kind of works he just walked out to that and he let the entire song play and everybody

is just standing there.

They're all Saudis.

They're all standing there like, I don't know what's going on here.

They're not crying or singing or waving an American.

And he just stood there and looked out into the audience like, you're going to listen to this whole song all the way through.

He's just got amazing.

He's got a para set on him that just does not ever, ever stop.

Well, getting shot in the head might.

Yeah, you know what?

I got shot in the head.

I'm going to stand here if I want to.

Anyway,

so, Jess, we were talking about AI, what we've just learned

from polling, which is both good and bad, people are at least really starting to understand this, which is

good.

If they don't understand this, or they only understand it like we understood social media when we got on, have you seen the Twitters?

I'm on Facebook.

If we approach AI like that,

we're doomed because by the time you figure it out, everything will be different.

And so it looks like people are starting to pay attention to it before we get there.

And they want rights and protections embedded in it.

That's right.

That's what they want.

Now,

talk to me about the EU because the EU has decided we're not playing this game.

We don't have to be the first.

First of all, you wouldn't be, but we don't have to be the first.

We're just going to be the ones that set all of the rules.

Yeah.

The expansion of power in the European Union during the Biden administration into today has been absolutely unbelievable.

And this is just another example of it.

We've talked about the EU ESG law before where they're trying to impose ESG on all of America and the whole world.

Well, this is similar to that.

They passed a law called the AI Act in 2024.

So last year they passed it.

A lot of the law, some of the law has already gone into effect earlier this year.

More of it goes into effect in August.

Penalties and things like that for noncompliance go into effect over the next couple of years.

Part of the stuff where you can't say anything, you know, that the society or the governments disagree with or you go to jail?

Or is this basically all these laws for the high-tech companies?

These are for big tech companies.

Okay.

So that's that's what the purpose of this is.

The idea behind these is to force AI developers, no matter where they are in the world.

They could be in America, they could be in Canada, or they could be in the EU or someplace else.

Just not China, because they don't care.

Well, they don't, yeah, they let them slide.

Right.

To adopt all of these EU sort of like ESG rules and to embed them into their AI systems

and if you if and their way of determining whether this might apply to you is not whether you have an EU

or not whether you have an AI system offered in the EU it's not even whether someone in the EU uses your AI system from the EU it's based on the use of an output from an AI system so in other words if you have ChatGPT produce a offensive transphobic meme and that is used by somebody in the EU, because you send it to somebody in the EU and then some influencer in the EU spreads it all over the place, that's enough to bring your AI system under their law, under the AI Act.

Gosh.

Okay.

Now, it's a super complicated, absurdly ridiculous law.

I got to tell you, if this doesn't fall, you know what?

Because what I would do, if that were the the case and we had a president here that was going to allow those punishments to stand,

I would just, I'd find a way to embed some sort of code that would not allow it to be spread in the EU.

I don't even know if that's possible, but

you would just say, cut them off.

I don't want anything in the EU.

Well, you almost, what's crazy about this is even if you didn't offer your service in the EU, just the output alone, it's like you have to force big tech companies not to operate in the EU.

And why would they do that?

Because they can make money in the EU.

That's the genius of what the EU is.

So, what's amazing about this is:

so, well, before we get into that, the requirements: what are the things that you have to do if you're a covered company under this?

There's all these obligations that you have to do.

You have to conduct detailed risk assessments, you have to build in human oversight, maintain logs, testing protocols, submit extensive documentation for EU regulators.

But the worst of it all is that you have to build a risk mitigation system to avoid actions considered harmful by the EU into your EU system into your AI systems.

Okay.

Now, what is a risk mitigation system exactly?

How do they define risk under this law?

Well, risk is so broadly defined that almost anything could be considered, it's essentially whatever the EU regulators want to ask you to stop doing, they can ask you to stop doing it or else you pay these massive fines.

How big are the fines?

You might wonder.

Well, it depends on the violation, but for most of the violations that I think we would be concerned about, it would be 3%

of total worldwide revenue for that company.

Not profit.

Nope.

Revenue.

Revenue.

Revenue.

So.

If you run a regular company, what is it?

I mean, it's usually a good return is what 6% to 8% on your dollar.

They could take.

We're talking billions of dollars.

Providing

big companies.

Gigantic proportions.

If you're taking straight revenue, your profit could be gone.

Yes, exactly.

So it forces compliance.

So it forces compliance.

It's very similar to the EU ESG law that we had talked about before, except it's focused on AI.

So

they're requiring these companies to adhere to these absurd rules.

They're going to do it because they're going to make money off of it.

So I want to

give you some specific examples from the law.

So in the law, there's this section where they basically lay out their intent.

And in their intent, which is pages and pages and pages long,

they talk about risks.

Now, some of the risks that they're concerned about, and they're trying to stop with this law.

So, this is what's in their mind.

This is how courts are going to interpret it in the EU.

So, this is why this is important.

It says when they're talking about general-purpose AI models, they're talking about the systemic risk that a big one might cause.

So, we're talking about like Chat GPT or something like that, okay?

It says that

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Then there's a whole bunch of other things I'm going to skip down.

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What?

Now, this is the law.

This is what they put into the law.

This is what they are.

So, so.

I don't even know what that last one means.

It's anything, Glenn.

Like, it could be summarized as whatever we want.

Okay, so, so we, I asked ChatGPT,

are you concerned?

You know, is this something that you're concerned with?

It's already supposed to go into effect.

Are you doing anything?

And it's very clearly, ChatGPT says, yes, we've already been changing.

OpenAI already has been changing its algorithms to conform to this and other laws like it.

It's already happening.

So we've been sitting here talking about why is AI doing all this crazy woke stuff?

And why is it only promoting certain views of various issues or things like that?

Well, because it's being forced to do that in part, at least, because of the European Union.

So while China and America are in a race to, you know, the AI race to see who's going to develop it first, Europe's just like, we don't really care who develops it first as long as you just do whatever we develop.

Okay, so that's a really cute idea, but may I take it to the last big possible destructive force?

And that's the Manhattan Project.

Europe could be sitting there and going, well, you know, Russia might develop their own nuclear weapons and America, but we're going to make the rules.

Well,

maybe

if Russia and America were like, okay, you can make the rules.

I mean, if China and the United States are like, I don't really care,

we're not doing it.

Agreed.

Agreed.

And so one of the things in here that's good.

So we're going to talk about

some of the good stuff that's in it is there are direct prohibitions on the use of AI.

So it's banned, not a penalty, like you can't do it.

That deals with AI that exploits human vulnerabilities like age or disability, certain social skills.

What does that even mean, though?

Of course.

And that's always the problem with these things.

There's stuff in there about the use of AI for subliminal mind-altering

apps and things like that.

They don't want that happening.

Sure, they don't.

Like, I mean, there's stuff in there that you look at and you're like, well, yeah, I mean,

I don't want to be subliminally like.

It's all ephemeral.

How are you going to

prove that?

It's happening now.

It's whatever they want.

That's the PowerPoint.

Show me the person.

I'll show you the crime.

Yes.

And so what you need, by the way, there is a minority report type thing in here that says you can't use this to predict crime and then arrest people for it, but that's a whole other thing.

No, why not?

You just use the cameras.

We can see it in real time.

We don't need to predict it.

But I think that the main part of all this is why would America allow the EU to dictate how it's designing its AI programs.

Easy.

If you have the progressive counterpart to the EU, then you can't get things through your House and Senate.

We couldn't pass any of that crap.

So let them do it.

And then we'll just go, well,

we are one with the EU, and we're just going to follow their rules, and we'll just do that.

So it allows you to destroy all of American rights just by blaming it on them.

I think that's why.

That's 100% why.

This was the whole Biden.

I think at some point this became the actual strategy for whoever was running the Biden administration.

That was the strategy.

Like, we are not getting anything done.

It's over for us.

We're just going to let Europe do whatever it wants, and we'll just have to comply with it, and we'll allow them to impose ESG on us and all these other things.

Because we can't get it through.

I know, because the guy who was running the administration was Mike.

So,

really?

Yeah, it was Mike.

Wow.

Yeah.

Was he an okay guy or?

I don't know.

I don't know what his name was Mike.

At least he ran it on Monday, so I don't know know who ran it the rest of the week.

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the next big thing that we should be talking about at this point?

What's coming?

You mean other than all the other stuff that I just talked about?

All that stuff.

Yeah.

You know,

this is not a popular opinion among people on the right, but I am,

I think if you just look at the historical numbers of how things have gone with the stock market, where things are at with housing prices.

We are so due for a gigantic crash.

It is unbelievable.

Oh, yeah.

It has to be

way overdue.

Just if you're looking at all the historical metrics measuring that, that would be my major concern.

And I think if we don't get spending under control, that could happen really fast.

Yes, I do.

And we're talking collapse of the dollar, and then you get CBDCs after that, and we could go on and on and on about all that.

But that's what I'm worried about.

Well, that made me happy.

How about used to?

I'm kind of on the same board with an economic situation.

You know, if you look back at the case-shiller index, which is what we've talked about for years, where it hit before the housing collapse, right?

The Great Recession,

it hit

184.

184.

Now, collapse fell all the way down to 134.

Now, Now, 134 is still higher than most of history, but

that number today,

take a gander at that.

Remember, it peaked

184.

I have no idea.

Currently, 323.

323.

That number should be about 100, if I'm not mistaken, right around that.

It was about 100 for about

30 years, 50 years before the collapse.

So it's not necessarily terrible.

I mean, again,

this is adjusted for inflation.

Yeah.

So it's not like a number that you would expect to go.

Based on that, there's data that shows that the average sales price of a home is now higher relative to income than it's ever been.

It's more than seven times the average income seven.

There's no way to buy a house.

If you are young and starting over, you probably don't think there's a way to buy a house or own a house.

Especially with the rates where they are.

All these things have to change.

They have to change.

And I think they're going to change.

Now, can we hold society together while it changes and resets?

I don't know, but I know the socialists are counting on being there.

Justin, thank you so much.

And I know you'll be back tomorrow.

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And we will see you back on the radio tomorrow.

Same time.

God bless.

Stay safe.

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