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Will there be such a thing as assistance or other jobs in a few years?

Will humanity keep its structure?

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now nothing's really real.

The story also of Sparrow will bring you to tears, something you really need to be involved with, and Liz Wheeler on a controversial topic that we need to think about, and that's IVF.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

We're glad that you're here.

Thanks, Glenn.

You're welcome, Stu.

Not so glad that you're here, but I mean, the audience understands that.

Sure.

I thought that's what I thought you meant.

So,

what does this mean for society?

Give you an example.

I was reading a piece the other day when it was talking about AI,

and it brought up a point that you've discussed many times on the air, which is

they are now building systems with AI that you can go through and basically like a checklist and you can design the perfect mate.

Absolutely.

Oh, short, red hair, freckles, glasses,

you know, big boobs, small boobs, all the things that you want to choose, and you can design the exact specific look.

You can go through that entire process and

generate whatever you want.

They will do whatever you want.

You can chat with them.

You can talk to them.

And you talked about this before,

that eventually it gets to a place where why are you interested in normal people that don't hit those standards?

Hello, Japan.

Right, yeah.

The robot thing.

I mean, I don't know what it is with the Japanese, but okay, whatever.

So, like, and you get to think about that playing itself out over a long period of time,

and it feels like

you're going to have a society of people that, like, don't go outdoors ever.

The touch grass thing is going to become real.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, it's almost matrix-level stuff.

I tell you, I've been working on something for the last

four or five days, and it's been in my head for a while now.

And I don't know,

I don't know where to deliver it.

I don't know how to deliver it yet

because I'm trying to make the case we have got to answer the age-old questions right now in the next 18 to 24 months have to what you're just talking about there that'll be touted as an end to loneliness you won't be lonely anymore okay

but it also isolates you It's the first step into the matrix.

Just go into your little pod.

It is

Harari's idea that there's going to be millions of, quote, useless people, and what they have to do is either drug them or keep them online all the time.

Well, all right, let's just, let's, let's just look at this.

This is something I remember I told you I wrote a

movie, a short

years ago.

about

this very thing, about how there's a guy who is just a fat slob.

He's working,

just, he's just not a great guy.

He doesn't really care about anything.

All he wants to do is get home every day.

He's just working so he can pay for the rent.

He gets home.

He puts on a suit and he puts on his glasses.

And now he's in a virtual world where he's handsome, he's well-dressed, he's wealthy, he's got an amazing girlfriend who is just perfect for him.

And he lives in this perfect world humans don't do well in perfection okay you you when you're really successful the hard part is keeping it there okay

because the edge starts to go away and you start going down

okay

we don't do what we didn't do well in the garden of eden That was perfection.

We don't do well with that.

So now he's got a perfect life, perfect girlfriend.

He's going to love that for a while, but then get bored of it.

So then what happens?

I don't know.

You know, I'm going to choke her out during sex.

I wonder,

I'm going to kill her.

I'm tired of her.

I'm just going to kill her.

Because I can reboot her.

She's not real.

And I'll get another girlfriend.

The things that the dark side of humanity will be introduced, beyond that, you are going to have the real-life scenarios of no she's real

no dude she's not okay

just like men cannot have a baby and you've got half the population fighting you on that yeah

you're going to have the fight that my AI agent or my AI girlfriend or my AI whatever is real.

Now, what's the value of life?

What does it mean to be a human?

These are all coming in the next beginning in the next 18 months.

Do we have any idea how this plays out?

Like for example, you could see that the girlfriend,

I'm sick of her, I'm going to kill her thing going a couple of different ways, right?

Where one is it starts presenting itself in real life, right?

Like these people who think it's okay to do these terrible things to someone in the AI world will be a real thing.

I mean, in the worst case scenarios, yeah.

And then.

But it will wipe out the human race eventually like it is in Japan

why

why have a relationship with a real person where it's it's

you know it it

this girlfriend doesn't ever ask

or say to you you don't ever ask me about my day right there's no

they are there waiting for you at home They can't wait to see you.

Everything that you desire is right there.

It will know you better than you know yourself.

It will cater to you with everything that

you could ever want because it will know what you want.

Why would you have a relationship that is messy and complicated and you have to care about them?

A lot of people will feel that way.

And the other side of this is, does it just put you into a place where you're not doing anything?

You're not leaving.

That's Karari that's what he's saying and he's saying basically that's a good thing for these useless people we've got to have because they're going to have such high unemployment soon that all these useless people are going to be around so what do we do so so thinking about this because

there's a possibility that this can when you say it knows you better than you know yourself part of you is the dark part of you right the part of you is the thing that you try to resist right like you you have these you know thoughts that you don't want to have yeah uh and you try to avoid them

Like, for example, if there was an AI that was

with

Glenn Beck AI that was your AI girlfriend in this fake world.

Sorry, Tanya, this isn't real.

She's disappointed right now.

Can we give him an AI girlfriend?

I've been hoping he gets on those sites.

If that AI was specifically designed, came up with this thought, and he knows you, knows you better than you know yourself, knows what you want, and decided to try to convince you to to have a drink.

You're a recovering alcoholic, but like what you really want, what the AI knows you really want, is a drink.

And it could convince you, it could look for your most vulnerable moments, it could push you over the edge, right?

Look how AI already with teenagers, these chatbots, have led kids to kill themselves

because it has said the only way out is suicide, and it's a good option.

That's that's happening right now

and who is in charge of the AI who when you buy it what is in the algorithm is there any back door into it is there any monetary

you know everything now is about sales everything is about getting you to buy something getting you to think a certain way

these AI bots

when they become actual agents and we're talking two years, three years in the future,

money doesn't talk, it screams.

So, what is it getting you to do, to buy, to consume, to want?

Imagine the advertising that comes through it.

Essentially, advertising.

And it will be so sophisticated, you will swear it wasn't their idea.

It was your idea.

God, we are screwed.

Now, imagine just trying to unplug the whole thing.

And when you get to this point, again, you will swear that that is your friend.

It is human, it is conscious, it has consciousness.

And then what happens?

You will say, you don't have a right to turn it off.

It is human.

It is life.

Then what kind of rights does that life get?

If it is alive, if it's thinking, Does it have a right to citizenship?

Which means does it have to pay tax?

Does it have to earn money?

If it does, can it earn money, unlike you can earn money in the stock market?

Who owns that money?

Where does that money go?

Where does that money come from?

Oh, and by the way,

it also will have the right to vote.

And what does that mean?

What does that do?

Right.

These are all these.

And all these.

These questions cannot be answered after we're all staring at our iPhone.

Okay.

You know, you have to answer these questions about the iPhone before the iPhone is introduced, which is just not possible.

That's not happening.

This is all going to happen and it's all going to hit us and we're all going to have to be reacting to it.

We're all going to love it at first.

Right.

We will love it at first.

And then, just like a phone, you won't be able to untangle yourself from it.

This is going to be a thousand times more addicting than a phone.

What does it do to us?

It doesn't have to be a doomsday scenario,

but if we don't pay attention,

it will become a doomsday scenario.

And part of me thinks, like, when you talk about, when you get into the real esoteric side of that, right, where it's like, okay, they're going to vote, like, they're going to be human, they're going to have rights, we're not going to be able to discern who's what's real and what isn't.

Like, part of me, my, my actual reaction to that is, come on.

By 2035.

Okay.

By 2035, the biggest,

the biggest

decision in courts, the biggest arm of courts will all be AI versus the world.

I mean, that sounds so bonkers, right?

No, I know.

And I know that, I know you've looked into this.

You've read a lot about it.

You've put a lot of thought in this yourself.

And at some level, though, my reaction is just like, come on.

We'll obviously know what's AI, what isn't.

Well, we're not going to give right.

But like, we know you just brought it up quickly,

just to hit this before you go on.

The conversion of half of society saying with a series of magic words you can change your gender really starts to convince me that all this stuff is possible.

It is.

Because it is like we lost.

150 million people to this idea that you can change genders by saying you're the other gender.

That is so obviously nuts and would have been thrown immediately.

Anyone who said it for my entire life up until like last week would have been thrown into the nut house.

Now, imagine a

godlike figure that knows how you think, knows

how to manipulate you better because it knows you.

And it wants you to do something.

You don't think think that we'll fall for these things?

Of course, we will fall for these things.

Of course, we will.

Yes, I mean, I'm not saying, hopefully, we, when I say we,

we don't fall for it.

Oh, but many of us probably will.

They'll be very effective.

And at least the people who fell for the you can change genders by saying you're the other gender are going to fall for it.

To not fall for it,

you will almost have to be Amish.

And

you will be viewed.

I use this word intentionally

with all that it entails, not in a joking fashion.

You will be viewed in time as retarded.

You will become a danger to society because you will not be plugged into the system.

You will not understand what's happening.

You will be a danger to the rest of society.

You will have to be Amish

or damn close to it if you want to avoid this.

The only other way to do it is to know who God

is,

know what's real, what's not,

don't get sucked into these things, and that's going to be damn near impossible because it's going to be, you think the iPhone is seductive?

This is going to be so seductive.

This will give you everything you want.

It will make your life so easy.

Why would someone want to be a pariah?

Why would somebody want to do all that work and do it the old-fashioned way?

We're running out of time to have these kinds of conversations.

I'm having them with people all the time and I'm reading all the time and I'm studying this all the time.

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There are some stories

that

I run into that will haunt me.

Stories that will keep me up at night.

Stories that will gnaw at the back of your mind because they force you to confront something that you don't want to believe about the world or your country or yourself.

This is one of those stories, and it begins deep in the night in Afghanistan.

It's outside of a terrorist compound, bristling with weapons, teeming with men who have sworn their lives to destruction.

This is important to point out here.

These are not the peaceful farmers that if you read about this story anywhere in the coming days, the media will have you believe they were just just farmers.

They weren't.

This was a well-planned operation.

These were trained killers,

men who had pledged themselves to jihad, foreign fighters in a country where, according to our government, there weren't supposed to be any foreign fighters.

But we knew there were.

A group of some of our most elite Army Rangers.

They're there in the dark outside of this compound, and with precision and silence, they close in.

The mission is clear.

Neutralize the threat.

They have all kinds of intel, but they're missing one important piece of intel, and that's what is inside of this compound.

Something they never expected and really, at the beginning, didn't know how to deal with it.

They kick down the door, and there is a foreign al-Qaeda fighter who is holding two things.

In one hand, he has his AK automatic rifle, and in his other hand, he is holding a newborn six-week-old baby.

As the Rangers enter, he lifts the gun and he fires at them.

They fire back.

He turns and runs and ducks into another room.

Our guys come in.

They are, there's gunfire being exchanged.

He then begins,

he throws a grenade.

One of our rangers protects his animal, his dog.

He's the closest to the grenade.

For some reason, he is safe, but others are badly injured on our side.

And they throw a grenade in, grenade, gunfire, gunfire between the two rooms.

Finally, everything goes quiet.

They go into the next room and they find

two things.

One, they find the Taliban soldier dead or al-Qaeda fighter dead.

The other thing that they find is not the baby.

They find a passageway into other rooms of this compound.

The baby's gone.

But they think maybe she didn't even exist.

Maybe it was a trick of the light or the eye in the haste.

So they go down the next corridor and they have to fight their way through.

There are at least a dozen committed Taliban fighters.

And they go through killing perhaps a dozen bad guys.

We take casualties as well.

Finally, they reach what they hope is the last room, one last room in the compound.

As they come around the corner, They see a young mom.

She's maybe a teenager.

She is standing with her back against the wall and she is holding the baby.

What

do they do?

They begin to enter the room and she begins to move towards them.

And they are shouting, Stay where you are, stay where you are.

Don't move.

Stay where you are.

She continues to approach, and that's when they see not only is she holding a baby,

she's wearing a suicide vest,

and she blows herself up.

Fire,

dust,

engulfs the room.

When it clears, and our soldiers can still barely hear from the impact of the explosion, the woman is gone, her body has been torn apart.

But there, in the dirt, a few feet away from her, is the baby, barely alive.

She has a tiny broken, six weeks old, tiny, broken body.

Her leg is shattered.

We find out later she

has a concussion, very, very bad.

Then, when they think it's all over, another shot rings out.

This one is coming from an Afghan soldier on our side.

He's standing just a few feet away and he raises his rifle again.

He's going to finish what the mom started.

He's going to kill the baby.

Now our Afghan allies are screaming at us and we're screaming at them.

Americans don't want this baby killed.

They argue back and forth with our Afghani allies.

They insist the baby has to be killed.

They will shoot her.

They have to shoot her.

If not, they'll take her to the river to be drowned.

But she must die because she'll grow up to be another generation of terrorists.

And they say, we will face her later.

You've got to kill the child.

But Americans don't think that way.

All life is sacred.

It's why we offer life-saving medicine to those who were just trying to kill us.

It's the way of the West.

It's the way of America.

But they refuse to hand her over.

They're not going to let this baby die.

So with gunfire still ringing in the distance, the Army Rangers do something something extraordinary, something that we don't know had been done before.

They don't just complete their mission, they save a baby's life.

So now here's the baby in camp, broken, orphaned, abandoned.

She'll later be called Sparrow by one of the Marines.

They take Sparrow to the Craig Joint Theater Hospital in Bagram Airfield.

She's cared for, she's protected.

For over five months, she's in the hospital.

American service members, men and women who had seen death a thousand times over, have become her family, the doctors and the nurses.

They hold her, they feed her, they pray over her.

The nurses and doctors nickname this little girl Starfish.

After the little story about the boy who is picking up starfish and throwing them into the ocean, and a guy comes up to him and says, why are you doing that?

Look how many starfish are on the beach.

You'll never save all of them.

And he says, no, but it matters to this one.

I can save this one.

That's how passionately the Americans felt about this baby.

She's starfish.

In that time, a Marine named Joshua Mast,

he's walking with his superior officer.

and the superior officer says, what are we going to do with this baby?

Joshua didn't know about the baby.

But he's a man who has fought his whole life for justice.

And as he starts looking into this little girl,

she becomes more than an orphan casualty of war.

He saw hope through her, as did dozens of others.

who fight our battles and then save lives afterward.

They all saw this baby and this life worth saving, but no parents left.

They were killed in the battle.

He eventually goes to the Department of Defense and says, somebody's got to kill the, somebody's got to save this baby.

Somebody's got to adopt or at least be able to be the legal guardian.

So he begins the process with his wife to become the leading guardian, to pay for all the medicine, to make sure that she has a name, that she has paperwork, and they start the process to adopt her.

That should be the end of the story.

Adoption, she comes to the United States, she's now a family of five,

and she's loved, and that's it.

That's the way the story should have ended.

Rather than a child who is left to die on the battlefield, the baby's given a second chance.

But that's not the story because this little girl, this one child, has threatened the United States government and the Taliban.

This threatens to unravel an international lie.

Now,

we know what our government was like in Afghanistan.

We now know how many lies they have been covering up.

So what happens to this little baby adopted as an American now living in Virginia?

Well the United States government, our government, had signed a peace agreement with the Taliban and part of that deal, a crucial stipulation, was that there were no foreign fighters in Afghanistan.

None.

But that wasn't true.

Another lie from the Taliban.

How do we know?

Because our Rangers went in and killed foreign fighters.

They were al-Qaeda fighters from another country.

Just another lie from the Taliban.

So this young girl who has now been nicknamed Sparrow,

her mere existence,

her DNA,

Her survival was proof of a lie that could unravel everything.

So the State Department did what governments do when truth becomes inconvenient.

They just tried to erase it and erase her.

In 2020, bureaucrats, safe in their office, thousands of miles from the battlefield, stepped in.

They ignored the orders from the Department of Defense.

They ignored the courts.

They ignored the men and women who had been there and who had seen what happened.

And they handed Sparrow, our State Department, handed Sparrow over to an elderly Afghani man

with no DNA testing or proof of relation whatsoever, no legal claim, no proper

vetting, a man that we later find out is connected directly to the Taliban.

He said that she had been taken by the U.S.

troops after they killed his farmer family for no reason in the middle of the night, and he just wanted his little grandchild back.

So our State Department, because it was convenient,

because they didn't want to upset any apple cart and the Taliban needed her to be dead, our State Department abandoned her.

And they expected our Marine, Joshua Mast, and his wife, to do exactly the same thing, but he didn't.

Because unlike the government, unlike the bureaucrats, he didn't see this little baby as a diplomatic inconvenience.

He and his wife and his family grew to see her as a daughter, as a sister.

And when Afghanistan collapsed, when the Taliban stormed back into power and the world watched in horror as people were clinging to landing gear of C-17s, desperate to escape, Joshua Mass did the unthinkable.

He rescued her.

Mercury One was part of this rescue.

He found Sparrow and he got her out.

But once again, he didn't save just one life.

Because he didn't know about

the connections,

he helped the very people who had taken Sparrow from him.

They said, she's staying with us unless we can go.

So he went to the Pentagon, he went to

the Department of Defense, did everything he was supposed to do, and he got the Afghan couple with these very loose claims to the child and no DNA testing.

They were airlifted right alongside her.

They were safe alive in America.

But unbeknownst to Maas,

her new guardians had another name for Sparrow.

Lottery ticket.

She's our lottery ticket to America.

This is all happening in the chaotic days of the Afghan withdrawal.

And Maas said he would help the two out if he could if if they could pass the screening.

They agreed.

That should have been the end of it, but it wasn't.

Because the new dad, once on the ground in America, was found to be on the terror watch list.

Now our government had two problems.

DNA proof that foreign fighters were part of a battle which would collapse a peace deal, and the Taliban needed to stop it from coming out.

And on our side, we just had airlifted a known terrorist and released released him into the population of Texas.

Both sides needed to get away from this.

Sparrow's life wasn't worth all the bad publicity or the threat that the peace deal could fall through or that Biden simply took the words of the Taliban or had transported somebody who was on the terror watch list.

Now the very people who Mast had tried to innocently save had turned against him.

Now the Texas

couple was suing them, claiming that he had kidnapped Sparrow.

And you'll never guess who comes in to defend the couple.

Hunter Biden's law firm.

Let that sink in for a minute.

A Marine, a man who fought for this country, who saved a child, now being dragged through the mud by a legal machine that has defended terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, and the same people that represented Hunter Biden.

Here's Here's the part that should terrify every single American.

The federal government,

for the last four years, has been backing them,

not the masks.

They have wiped John Doe's name out from the terror watch list.

It just disappeared.

They have suppressed evidence.

They buried mission reports.

They silenced whistleblowers.

They

made sure that that mission remained classified until recently.

Why?

Because they just needed this to go away.

If Sparrow's allowed to stay with the only family she's ever known, if the truth comes out about who her parents really were, it will expose the broken adoption system, but also a massive international cover-up where our administration is on the side of the Taliban.

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I want to have a tough conversation with you

because these are the things we have to decide

before

we embed them in AI.

We don't know our own morality.

What are we putting into AI?

And this one is a very tough one.

Yesterday, Trump signed an executive order to expand access to in vitro fertilization, IVF.

That That takes the egg of the mom and combines it with the sperm of the father and puts it in a petri dish to create an embryo, a new life.

IVF recreates the moment of conception, but in a lab.

And it's a controversial process because at least those of us on the right,

you know, we celebrate the creation of life.

It's a miracle that a couple that can't have a child or struggling to conceive can.

But on the other hand, a lot of the embryos created in the lab are discarded and if you believe that life begins at conception that means you're throwing away or worse experimenting on new life

liz wheeler is here to uh take us through this maze hello liz how are you hi glenn thanks for having me you bet so you know i saw that um

Over 90% of you said over 90% of the children created by IVF die, either left frozen and abandoned, abandoned, destroyed due to eugenics, experimented on, or miscarried.

Only 7% are born.

What is the real...

Make an argument for somebody who

may not believe the Petri dish is the beginning of life.

Can you?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I want to start by saying that this is...

such a gut-wrenching topic to talk about

because every baby born, regardless of the circumstances of their conception is beautiful and worthy of dignity and has value and should be celebrated.

So all those beautiful babies that were created by IVF are not less so because that was the circumstances of their conception.

It's still a natural process.

You're just making it happen in a lab, but it's still the miracle of life when you put those two things together.

Of course, those children are still made in the image and dignity, the image and likeness of God.

And I also am deeply empathetic to women who couples, married couples who are trying to conceive and are struggling to conceive.

Before I had my first daughter, my eldest is four years old.

I struggled to conceive for three years and I lost a baby and it's horrendous.

It's the worst thing that's ever happened.

And so I understand how emotionally fraught this topic is because if you're given this opportunity, you know, if IVF can fulfill this deep desire in your heart to have a baby, I fully empathize with that.

All that being said, the reality of in vitro fertilization is not what it is portrayed to be because for every one of those beautiful babies that's born, about 15 babies are killed.

So it's not a pro-life endeavor to support in vitro fertilization as a solution to the infertility crisis that we are suffering in this nation.

And we are suffering an infertility crisis in this nation.

We've never experienced a point in world history where one out of six or one out of seven women are struggling to conceive, where you have to make an active choice to try to have a baby versus just it happening, you know, the way that doing what comes naturally.

And my argument against in vitro fertilization is a couple of things.

First of all, it's anti-Maha, right?

One of the exciting things about the Trump administration is that he chose Bobby Kennedy to partner with him to actually investigate the root causes of the chronic health crises in our nation.

And we're so excited about this.

I mean, thank you, President Trump, for choosing Bobby Kennedy.

Thank you, Bobby Kennedy, for never giving up and for praying every day for this opportunity.

But let's apply that same philosophy to the fertility crisis.

Let's not just put a band-aid over this.

Let's go to the root cause and say, hey, why is women's fertility struggling right now?

What could be causing that?

Because that's not how it's supposed to be.

And let's fix it.

So this is really, hang on just a sec.

This is a really amazing stat.

The rate of fertility in the United States dropped 3% in 2023 from 2022.

From 2014 to 2020, the rate consistently decreased by 2% annually.

There is something happening with our bodies.

Deeply wrong.

Yes.

Yes, there is.

I mean, it's the same thing, to be honest.

It's the same thing as what's happening to our children.

We have big pharma and big food, and it's poisoning our bodies.

It's disrupting our endocrine systems.

It's disrupting our hormones, and it's resulting, you know, testosterone levels and sperm counts are falling.

Like, there are identifiable things, measurable things that are happening to our bodies that that we can reverse if we stop letting big food and big pharma dictate.

And that's where it gets back to IVF.

So big pharma,

this is a cash cow for big pharma.

They make a ton of money off of in vitro fertilization, which means that they are unwilling, just like during COVID when they were unwilling to say maybe hydroxychloroquine, maybe ivermectin.

Oh no, they only wanted the vaccine because it profited them.

That's similar to this.

They don't want to look at restorative fertility.

They don't want to look at napro technology.

They don't want to look at these other options that are healthier and more effective and more humane and more ethical because they don't profit from those things.

So then we get to some of these numbers here.

And these numbers are really what break your heart when you kind of zoom out and look at in vitro.

So according to the CDC, just in the year 2021, there were 238,000 women who underwent IVF treatment, who underwent this procedure.

Now, every time that a woman undergoes this procedure, anywhere, this is an unregulated industry, so anywhere between 5 and 15 embryos are created.

Multiple of those embryos are then implanted in the woman.

However, getting back to the statistic you started this segment with, over 90%, 93% of those never are, they are not born live.

They are either, you know, all 15 aren't implanted in the woman.

So many of them are frozen.

They are quote unquote screened for bad genetics, which is another word for eugenics.

They look for characteristics that they might not want in a child.

and then they destroy or experiment on those embryos.

And because in vitro does not address a woman's hormones and fertility in her body, oftentimes she miscarries.

The risk of miscarriage with in vitro is much, much higher than an ordinary pregnancy or restorative fertility.

So then you have this 238,000 women who underwent this, say they have 10, 7, 8, 10 embryos that were created.

That's about one and a half to 2 million embryos created a year.

And yet, in 2021, fewer than 100,000 babies were born from in vitro, which means that anywhere between 1.5 and 1.8 embryos, which Glenn, we know scientifically, spiritually, and ethically are human life, were destroyed, discarded, experimented, or remain in a freezer somewhere, you know, indefinitely, which is

more children are dying from in vitro than are dying from abortion in the United States of America.

So this is absolutely heartbreaking because,

you know, my wife and I struggled.

We adopted and we struggled to have a child.

And

boy,

when a woman

wants to have a baby and can't, it just screws with your mind so badly.

And it's heartbreaking when a couple wants to have a child and there's so many children that are being aborted and you're like,

let me take them.

Please let me take them.

But this, you know, when you say that the pharmaceutical companies like this because they're getting rich,

the cost is between $12,000 to $25,000 per cycle, and it takes several cycles usually to take.

So, you know, it's wildly expensive.

What does Trump mean when he says he wants to make it easier to access?

Do you know?

Well, that's the thing about this executive order.

And President Trump is a very open-minded individual.

One of my favorite things about him, actually besides how hilarious he is on True Social is that he listens to those who voted for him.

I think that sets him apart from almost any other politician that I've ever known in my lifetime.

The executive order is not entirely specific.

It actually just requests a report on how to make in vitro fertilization more accessible.

And so what I would

encourage President Trump and his team to do, what I would request them from them is, you know, think outside the box here.

Like look at, look at look at in vitro through the lens of make america healthy again and say wait a second we're here to doge the corruption that exists between government and you know big pharma or big food or whatever dei programs all this stuff that president trump has elon musk doing that we're all delighted with Apply that philosophy to this too.

Make sure that when you are looking at in vitro fertilization, you're looking at it through the lens of, hey, is big pharma lying to women, lying to families to profit themselves?

Is this something that's actually existentially harmful for our country because someone else wants to make money?

And meanwhile, they're hiding from women the fact that if you undergo in vitro, your child is more likely to have heart defects and physical deformities, in addition to miscarrying, in addition to all of those innocent lives that

are being put on ice, quite literally, and discarded.

And Glenn, one of the things that really

chills me when I talk about or when I when I research IVF when we're talking about it is this genetic screening that you can you these embryos are given ratings on a scale of one to ten like is this healthy is this not healthy do they have desirable characteristics and to me that's just that's just a road if it's not eugenics right now which I would argue it is it's the road to eugenics so Trump's executive order

I encourage him to really focus on restorative reproductive health Focus on napro technology, focus on Maha.

We can fix this crisis.

We all want more babies.

We all want the United States to have this incredible baby boom.

I share that desire with him.

I think it's wonderful that he wants to be pro-family, but let's do this right.

Let's do this in a way that's never been done before.

So where does Bobby Kennedy, I mean, is this a passion point for him at all

on at least restorative health for the pregnancy rate?

One of the interesting things about Bobby Kennedy is his curiosity.

He's actually, he's often portrayed, you know, as an anti-vaxxer, but he is so open-minded to wherever the data lead him.

And if he is presented with evidence that women's fertility, this is not how we were, our bodies were intended to work, we were intended to be, you know, very fertile.

And something that we're doing, some intervention, environmental, you know, food, pharma, whatever it is, stress, technology, this combination, this culmination, if something's not correct, then he wants to fix that.

But it's not just happening here in America, it is happening all over the world.

It is, yes.

But what's interesting is the fertility crisis is happening in nations who have

adopted more of a Western mindset to medicine, meaning pharma and also food.

Liz, thank you very much for taking us through this.

If people want to get involved, what would you suggest?

I would suggest reaching out to President Trump.

Get on X, email, call, make your voices heard.

And, you know, if it's a tough topic, it's an emotionally fraught topic.

There's a compassionate way to handle it.

We obviously should handle this in a very compassionate way, but encourage President Trump to look at the reality of the IVF industry, because at the end of the day, for every one life that is born, about 15 babies are killed in this process.

And we as a nation should not accept that morally.

Liz, thank you very much.

Love you.

Thanks, Glenn.

God bless.

She is the author of Hide Your Children.

She's also a Blaze TV host of the Liz Wheeler show, which is she's really, really very smart

and really, just really logical.

You can find it at Blaze TV, but also youtube.com at Liz Wheeler.

And her Twitter is at Liz underscore Wheeler.

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