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Hello, Stu.
How are you?
Doing well, Glenn.
How about you?
Oh, my gosh.
I'm just, mm, just, woo.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want to talk to you.
Did you see what just happened with Facebook, Stu and Mark Zuckerberg?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
Yeah, it is.
And I'm, I'm, I'm wondering what is happening here,
you know, beyond the, beyond the headline.
Here it is, just so you know.
Mark Zuckerberg announced Tuesday morning that content moderation and other restrictions on speech will be lifted across Facebook, Instagram, and other platforms as Donald Trump returns to the White House.
Huh, no, wait, hold on just a second.
What?
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And yet,
Our traffic on social media has declined by 85 to 90%.
it's just not possible okay there's no way other than we've been severely um contained if you will
um and you know i'd like to act ask mark zuckerberg where do i go to get my audience back where do i you know
you've kind of people have kind of fallen out of the habit if you get all of your news from facebook god forbid or instagram we've been so suppressed All of a sudden, are we going to pop back up?
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So he's ending all of the
the content moderation.
Now, what he did before was to go to places that, you know they're they're absolute experts.
You know like the Southern Poverty Law Center.
They know what's going on.
The Pointer Institute, they know what's true.
And they've decided that they are going to go back to their roots, I'm quoting, and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring free expression on our platforms.
More specifically, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X.
Now
hang on just a second.
Wasn't X the most dangerous platform in the world?
Weren't those community notes just not enough?
The company's
third-party fact-checking program was put into place following Trump's first election
to
manage content and misinformation on its platforms, which executives conceded was a result of political pressure.
But now they say they've just gone too far.
We went to independent third-party fact-checkers, says the global chief of affairs officer at Meta.
It has become clear there is too much political bias in what they choose to fact-check because basically they get to fact-check whatever they see on the platform.
No, that can't.
It can't be true.
No, it's true.
No, too much bias.
Yes.
but they're just checking facts glenn yes i know i know isn't that weird now listen to this i mean today
i think today's show is kind of uh
uh kind of based on
no
really
you know um the things that are happening now wait until next hour i'm going to tell you a story uh that is
is just draw a jaw-dropping in
how the world works between you and the elites.
Here's a case in this hour.
We're talking about Facebook.
How does it work between you and the elites?
Well, they didn't listen to you.
They wanted to shut you up.
They went to the elites who were on the winning side last time and said, okay, what do we need to do?
What do we need to do to make sure that
we're on your side and we can get all all that government money and nobody's going to hassle us.
What do we need to do?
So they did it.
And they went to the elite's selection of fact checkers.
Now that the world has changed, at least here in America, now they're still not listening to you.
This isn't because you said something.
This is because Donald Trump has changed America.
And now they see the writing on the walls.
And so, again, it's not you.
It's power.
And it's disgusting.
The company is ending their fact checkers completely.
And it will instead rely on the platform users to false flag or yeah, flag false or misleading content.
Instead of going to some so-called...
This is Facebook saying this.
Instead of going to some so-called expert,
it will rely on the community and the people on the platform to provide their own commentary to
something that they've read.
This is
what freedom of speech is.
There's no expert that sits around in your
in your town that checks everything somebody says and then says, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
That's untrue.
And they have a political bias that it just doesn't happen in real life.
But again, let's remember that social media is not real life.
But at least it's starting, maybe it will start reflecting it a little bit more where you have the freedom to say what you think.
Can you pause on that one point for one quick second?
Sure.
Because
Zuckerberg and Elon Musk have a rivalry, right?
Like, remember they were going to have a fight?
They were going to do like a cage match a year or two ago.
There's a rivalry here.
For him to come out and say this, he said this on video, Zuckerberg,
saying that they would go to community notes, not just go to community notes, not just get rid of their fact checkers, but go to the community notes.
And as he said, similar to the way X does it,
he actually admitted that basically, like, we tried something, they tried something, theirs is better, we're going with theirs.
It's like a tech bro, you know, federalism.
That's a
good thing, and I think a tough admission for a guy like Mark Zuckerberg.
I mean, I'm with you in that I think they've run this so poorly, and they have
taken companies and content companies and given them this impression that they could advertise to people, gain followers, and then get their content distributed, and then pulled the rug out from underneath them years ago and destroyed
dozens and dozens of websites and
companies because of it.
uh that being said this does kind of seem like a a good change like i i don't know if it's just glenn them kissing trump's butt and realizing if trump comes in uh he's going to be a different kind of president and they're going to in a different environment and they better change or they're going to get you know hammered or if it's a real change but either way i think it's a positive one
well you know me i always look for the best in people honestly You do.
I am kind of a poor judge of character because of that,
because
I see
people for who I think they could be maybe at times.
And I kind of look at it like, I think that's who they really are going to be.
And they usually disappoint because people don't become the people they could be most times.
Instead, they settle for what they are or what they've allowed themselves to become because they don't have a true center of truth.
They don't know who they are and how they relate to all eternal truths.
And so they get lost really easily.
But when I sat with Zuckerberg, this is more in line with the Zuckerberg that I sat with.
However, you know,
I think I was.
What did we decide, Stu?
Greatly conned.
with Zuckerberg.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we went back and forth on it, I think.
We did.
Because I do think there's a part of him that would like to be clear of all of this.
I think he has other, you know, large goals
in his life other than navigating every political thing that pops up.
So I am so glad you said that.
What are his big goals?
What does he really want to do?
Do you know?
What is he focusing on?
Hmm.
I mean,
he has gone through several phases, right?
The company started going towards the metaverse, right?
They changed the company to Meta
couple years ago.
That tells you everything you need to know.
Okay.
It tells you everything to know.
Meta is all about virtual reality, correct?
So virtual reality.
Guess who's invested billions of dollars in VR?
The United States Army, Navy, and Air Force, all going to virtual reality.
Okay.
Meta has lost about $50 billion in its reality labs division, augmented reality, virtual reality, and the metaverse.
So
what?
What's happening here?
I think what this is partially, I mean, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt to some degree, but I think partially what this is about is
making sure that the government contracts don't stop with meta.
Make sure that they are
able to get some of that money from the United States in the use of VR because that's where he really,
where his heart is.
That's what he really wants to do.
Now they lost $50 billion in their reality labs.
However, if you look at Facebook's revenue, they're subsidizing all of this stuff.
Facebook, the revenue was expected to go up to $100 billion in 2024.
Facebook's advertising revenue is now expected to grow over $127 billion by 2027.
So that's the cash cow.
But where his heart is,
is
VR and AR.
And he wants to make sure that he gets, he's not off the government teat.
Otherwise,
his real passion is gone.
I think that's what's happening.
Speculation, but I think that's what's happening.
It's got to be part of it, right?
It's got to be part of it.
Yeah.
You know, but I wonder and hope that it is more than that.
I mean, because I had the same reaction to Elon Musk when he started having this transition of real skepticism.
I didn't buy it.
I mean, the guy's been the biggest climate activist in America.
Why would we believe all of a sudden he's coming around to these sorts of ideas?
Does seem now that that's pretty legitimate from Elon Musk?
Could it be legitimate from Zuckerberg?
Remember,
he did some of this stuff before the election.
He did signal this stuff.
He did testimony.
He outed some of the government intrusions before the election happened.
He called Trump a badass after the after the assassination attempt.
Correct.
He said that was his turning point, was the assassination attempt.
He said that's when he realized, oh, this guy is really a badass.
This guy is actually,
you know, what he says he is, to some degree, at least according to Mark Zuckerberg.
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So guess who else is joining Meta now?
In another announcement, they've decided that Meta is going to have three new members on its board of directors,
one of which is Dana White.
What do you think of that one, Stu?
I mean, it's fascinating.
He's a huge Trump ally,
big Trump supporter, spoke at the convention on Trump's behalf.
Now, you know, Zuckerberg is into the sort of UFC stuff, right?
He's part of his world.
But I mean, it's, I mean, think of the change.
Think of the people being kicked off Facebook.
Think of where we were not that long ago with Facebook.
Four years ago, we were just,
we knew we were walking into a bloodbath.
We were walking into a buzzsaw.
And now look at what we're walking into.
Yeah, Glenn, I was thinking back to the book, The History of the Future by Blake Harris.
We had him on a bunch of times at the time.
It's the story of Palmer Lucky, the guy who invented basically
the Oculus Rift and became MetaQuest.
He developed that device in his trailer.
And
he eventually got bought out by Zuckerberg for a billion dollars.
Eventually was fired because he gave $10,000 to a group that was putting up an anti-Hillary Clinton billboard.
Right.
And
they tried to destroy this guy completely.
Now, he's, in the interim, built a $14 billion separate company.
So he's pretty much okay.
But,
you know, Hommer Lucky.
Yeah, I wonder if we could even get him on the phone now.
Because we had him on the show when he, you know,
destroyed.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, you're right.
We had the author of the book about it.
Yeah, that's right.
But the story was like painted a picture of Zuckerberg of like this guy.
You know,
it struck me like he was like some, you know, Huffington Post blogger running, you know, Facebook
and Instagram.
This person who we've seen here in the last 24 hours and over the past few months seems like a totally different guy.
Whether that's just, you know, self-preservation or it's real, it's better.
Self-preservation.
Self-preservation, I think.
Because the end of the corporate resistance is here.
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Morgan Stanley has now become the latest U.S.
bank to suspend its commitment to the Net Zero Banking Alliance.
Wait, what?
The bank in its Thursday announcement did not specify why it left the alliance.
Why do you think, Stu?
Did it have anything to do with the Republican state attorney generals that have targeted this?
It may very well, yes.
Yeah.
Otherwise, they just got up in the morning and they were like, you know what?
I've rethought this.
I think this is wrong.
I don't think we should
force our own beliefs on everybody and debank people.
That's probably what it is.
I'm sure that's what it is.
It's similar.
I mean, you have the same sort of reaction to the Zuckerberg thing, right?
Is it political expediency here or is it real?
Either one is good,
right?
I don't think that's...
Yes, it is.
I mean,
I'm happy.
Completely happy.
Political expediency
that you have political power, right?
And that's correct.
And that's why you try to win elections.
Right.
But let's keep in mind who these people are.
Do not just go, oh, you know what?
They've had a change of heart.
Let's remember that they were willing to debank you for their power.
So that's kind of a, you know,
when you've inflicted real harm on people just for having a difference of opinion.
I'm not going to be, you know, one of the biggest things that we did wrong, I think, in World War II was Operation Paperclip.
Now, this is an extreme example, but you know, all the people that were making the poison gas and coming up with new ways to kill people and were just riddled with Nazism through and through.
If they were,
if they could help us get our defense industry better or our medical industry better, we decided to bring them over in Operation Paperclip.
It was the worst thing we could have done.
I think that's part of our problem right now, is that all of that Nazi ideology and philosophy
permeated almost everything in our government because of Operation Paperclip.
We lost a lot of who we were because we wanted to look the other way and say, well, that's over.
They're going to be good now.
No.
No.
And we have to have the same kind of attitude.
You know,
I can't even say trust yet verify.
I would say verify, verify, verify.
And then if you want to do business with them, don't trust them.
But anyway, this is the fifth bank now to exit the banking alliance.
Remember, that was the reason why they all freaked out when we got out of the Paris Climate Accords.
because this banking alliance was what it was really about.
Now we have Citigroup, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, and now Morgan Stanley all leaving it.
So
they'll find another way to do it.
Don't get me wrong, but it looks like it's falling apart.
And it's going to be a real problem because Europe is still in that.
And so if we're not doing it,
how are they going to get around the banks?
You know, over in Europe, can we do business?
Can our banks do business with Europe?
I don't know, because the banking alliance would say no.
So we'll see how this all kind of comes together.
But the end of the corporate resistance is really over.
Facebook, we just told you a minute ago, Facebook is, you know,
we're looking for the broadest cross-section of users.
And we just don't think we should rely on so-called, I can't believe they even say so-called experts.
Before they were experts, now they're so-called experts who bring their own biases into the program.
So they're going to model what X is doing.
And,
you know, so
we've got a big change.
And
they did say that, you know, it's it's not unrelated to Donald Trump becoming president.
Quote, we have a new administration coming in that is far from pressuring companies to censor and and is a huge supporter of free expression.
Wait a minute.
I thought this guy was Hitler.
This guy was Hitler.
He's
far from pressuring companies to censor and is
a more huge supporter of free expression.
It brings us back to the values that our company was founded on.
Yeah.
Kind of what we've been saying, right?
Kind of, yeah, kind of exactly what we were saying.
Nice to hear them say it.
It is interesting that they're going to bring back the pushback against the government now that Trump's in office.
But I welcome it, even with that scenario being true.
Yes.
It needs to be here.
People need to be able to say what they can say.
But it is.
extra important now for us not to kick back and go, we won.
This can be changed as much as they changed last time.
I mean, look, when Trump was in office, none of this DEI stuff, none of this transgender stuff was happening.
That happened in the last four years.
So let's not get complacent here.
Let's make sure we are backing the president to make sure that we get through Congress, we get things done and start to cement.
We cannot truly trust anything for at least another 12 years.
We need three terms.
And if we have three terms, we can really truly undo everything.
And that is that is really important.
By the way,
companies like Bank of America, they pledged a billion dollars to Black Lives Matter.
Okay.
Four years ago, a billion dollars to Black Lives Matter.
Think of that.
Now, where did all of that money go?
And how could Bank of America back Black Lives Matter, a group that was burning cities to the ground, shooting police officers in Dallas?
How could you do that?
I have a theory, and maybe, you know, we should just add this to the list of, let's go see and go back through the records.
My theory is this all happened with Occupy Wall Street.
Do you remember how Occupy Wall Street just kind of petered out at the end?
I mean, they were there for how many days, Stu?
A year?
And
all of a sudden it just petered out and everybody went away and they were like, okay, well, that's over.
Really?
Because what happened right after that?
All of these corporations started to get in bed with those very same groups.
Okay.
I think there was a deal made.
Leave Bank America alone and we'll give you your money.
But don't don't count us as a bad guy.
Just leave us alone.
And I think it was
kind of a hostage situation.
I think
they were giving money to make sure that they weren't targeted.
It was protection money.
That's just my theory.
I don't know.
And I don't mean to say Bank of America did that.
I think all of Wall Street.
uh did that and that's why you saw this great change um happening with all of the big global corporations.
And you didn't see it with the small guys because the small guys didn't have a reason to say it.
By the way,
the Republicans won the vote in the Senate for the first time in 20 years.
And surprise, surprise,
President Trump's inauguration has received $150 million in pledges for the
inauguration.
Million dollar donors include Meta, Amazon, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Apple's Tim Cook, Toyota for General Motors, hedge fund manager Ken Griffin, OpenAI Sam Altman, Bank of America, AT ⁇ T, and Goldman Sachs.
Now, these are the companies that had taken a pledge to never give Donald Trump a dime.
You remember that?
Now they're all pointing up in the millions.
They have the inauguration committee has $140 million already, the bank, and all of these companies have come in and given another $150 million in donations.
Hmm.
That is
really interesting.
Good to see.
But again, it can be reversed in a heartbeat.
They have to learn the hard lessons.
And right now, they're still playing politics.
CNN, on the other hand, is
they are one that they're going through their hard lesson right now.
I don't know if they'll ever learn it, but did you see what was happening in Florida yesterday during their jury selection?
CNN is being sued for defamation.
And
it was the guy who, let me see here.
He was the guy.
Oh, he was the guy that CNN said was
charging people
and really almost just gouging them for a way out of Afghanistan.
Remember when that happened and CNN was on this big kick that people are gouging.
In fact, one American is gouging people and just leaving you behind if you can't pay exorbitant fees to get out of the country.
Well, that wasn't true about this guy.
And he sued.
And he sued in Florida.
Now, yesterday they had to pick the jury.
And I love this.
Juror number one said, no, I can't be impartial.
I don't like the media, especially CNN.
So
he later doubled down
for his dislike on the media saying CNN is just fake.
It's fake news.
They create fake news.
So they dismissed him.
Juror number four
said, I intentionally avoid CNN.
CNN is just as bad as every other media outlet, but like I avoid CNN like the plague.
Juror number 23 said that he was unable to be impartial because he believes media outlets think they can say whatever they want and pretend to be the victim when they're called on it.
He added, almost everything I see on CNN, I see it a different way.
Juror number 27 said they had seen Jake Tapper's show, but it's not appointment TV for me.
Jurors were also asked, does anyone think the United States handled the withdrawal from Afghanistan well?
Not a single juror raised his hand.
Nor a single organism
that has ever existed on the planet.
It's incredible.
Although three Taliban members were very actually excited about the way it was handled.
What kind of questions?
Mohamed Atta said, I can be fair and neutral on this.
Oh, my gosh.
So
they're learning their lesson.
You know, especially it's like if you're in Florida or Texas, you're doomed.
You're doomed.
It's not that the judge is going to be, you know, like they are in D.C.
and just bend all the rules and everything else, but the jury selection is going to be a little harder for you than it would be, oh, perhaps in New York City or all of California.
Now,
we didn't get a chance to talk about this yesterday, and
blood shot out of my eyes when I saw the
medals of freedom that were given by Joe Biden recently over the weekend.
And
I have to talk about it.
We'll do that coming up.
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If you own a home or any property, your title and the hard-earned equity that you built is at serious risk.
This
fast-growing crime is a very serious problem for property owners.
And in fact, a district attorney in California said that the title fraud attempts just in his small county have gone from virtually none to over 73 in the last 18 months alone.
Don't you love this, Stu?
I love the house stealing stuff.
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I mean, clearly this is payback.
You know,
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this guy gets the award,
how out of touch is
this administration?
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Hello, Stu.
Go ahead.
How are you?
I need you to hold my hand a little bit.
A little bit.
A little bit.
Okay, because my head's going to explode.
Let's start first with Biden ending his regime the same way he started, and that is banning energy.
He has just banned offshore drilling in 625 million acres of federal waters.
So that is
a land area as large as, think of this, as large as Alaska, Texas, and Montana combined.
Just Alaska and Texas, isn't that, wouldn't that cover the entire United States?
Isn't Texas like half of it or just a little less than half and
Alaska is more than half?
I mean, no, not that big, but
pretty close.
Pretty close.
I'm sure the way they describe that being Alaska, I mean, Texas is obviously already in the map, so you know how much of it that
covers.
But,
you know, the way they wrote that, it's pretty big, right?
Alaska, Montana, and Texas together, pretty significant.
Okay, so now he has stopped the drilling for oil.
Now, the good news is there's no oil being drilled anywhere in this, so it just puts a cap on the future, which I love when old people, you know, decide to dictate the future from the grave.
I love that.
I love that too.
They're not in the grave yet, but they're digging it.
And not good news.
There's no development there already, right?
Like,
it's plainly not good news.
But, you know, you're right.
Like, he's just trying to put these things into place so they cannot even be reversed.
So, this is the entire East Coast, the Eastern Gulf of Mexico along Florida's coast, and the Pacific coast, California, Oregon, and Washington State.
It also closes off the remaining 44 million acres of the Northern Bering Sea Climate Resilience Area in northwest Alaska.
Now,
this is quite amazing.
And as Stu said,
And as Donald Trump said yesterday,
he is doing everything he can to make this
transition as difficult as possible.
He did this one because it's going to take an act of Congress to be able to reverse it.
Because of the way this
particular law was written, it gives the president the ability to block land, think of this, but through executive order, but not unblock that land.
That's got to go through Congress.
If that's not
absolutely the reverse of common sense, I don't know what is.
So anyway,
Trump has vowed to fight this, but it's going to have to go through Congress.
Now,
think of what has happened with us and energy.
When Joe Biden came into office, we were energy independent for the very first time.
Energy allows us to have heat.
Energy allows us to have hospitals that work.
Energy allows us to produce products here in America.
It helps you get to work with your car.
What did they do?
They took the oil and petroleum industry and did everything they could to shut it down.
Who really got hurt in that?
Well, you did.
You did.
You got really hurt in that because everything, including food, went up because petroleum is in almost everything,
which is another story than we'll talk about with RFK at some point.
But you cannot run a modern society without petroleum.
Just can't be done.
But they didn't care.
And I said at the time, if you want to go to clean energy, that's fine, but you have to have something
in between.
And I said, you know, if you were coming out and saying that we were going to open up nuclear power plants, if you were going to go that way which is proven the cleanest energy and the safest energy of all time
if you were doing that well then you know we could have a conversation but you wouldn't in fact in 2022 California they were so desperate for power
That they kept the Diablo Canyon power plant, extended it for five more years.
But they were shutting down everything they could.
Everything they could.
Power plants,
nuclear power plants, gone.
Okay?
Because how many times do we have to hear it?
It is so dangerous we could all die from bad nuclear burns.
It'll be so bad when those nuclear power plants melt down in China syndrome.
I saw the movie.
Okay.
It is not even up for discussion, right?
Now let me give you this story from NPR.
Now this came out a few months ago, but it ties into what we were talking about yesterday.
And I don't think this ever got enough attention.
Bill Gates is going nuclear.
Okay,
good.
The three-mile island power plant near Middletown, Pennsylvania, that was the scene of the worst commercial nuclear accident in U.S.
history.
Now, remember, that's the only reason why you know Three Mile Island.
It was the home of the worst commercial nuclear accident in U.S.
history.
Stu, how many people died?
Glenn, zero people died.
Okay.
I want to recount on that.
I want to recount on that.
It was exactly.
I know.
It was exactly
to precisely zero.
In fact, the worst thing that happened in the Three Mile Island
tragedy was that a few people were subject to the same radiation you would receive getting a chest x-ray.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
You can see why this has stopped us from pursuing nuclear energy.
No, I can't.
Would you agree with me, Stu, that
it was because of that accident and the movie that came out, China Syndrome, that really led to America going, Well, you know what?
Maybe we should hold off on this nuclear energy thing because it is so dangerous.
Even though, count again, Stu.
Count again.
Are you sure you have that number?
Yeah, let me hold on one second.
If you just, let me get my calculator out here.
Carry the one.
Carry the one.
Carry the one.
Hold on.
Hold on one second.
Okay.
All right.
You got it.
Oh, he's crunching the numbers right now, America.
Crunching the numbers.
No.
Okay.
No deaths.
No.
Zero.
Oh.
No deaths.
zero
i can't tell if it's a zero or the letter o but it's it either way it's no deaths now this is a story from npr
okay
constellation energy which bills itself as america's largest producer of clean carbon-free energy announced friday that it has signed the largest ever power purchase agreement with microsoft powering industries critical to our nation's global economic and technological competitiveness, including data centers, require an abundance of energy that is carbon-free and reliable every hour of every day.
And nuclear power plants are the only energy sources that can consistently deliver on that promise.
Wow.
Well, what about solar panels, Bill?
What about wind power, Bill?
Bill Gates
is reopening Three Mile Island.
And as NPR said, said, I mean, thank goodness, with Constellation Energy, which is the largest producer of clean, carbon-free energy.
By the way,
Constellation Energy also is a major contributor to NPR.
These people not only create clean energy, they also help get the truth out, you know, because they're dedicated to the truth at NPR.
Except the problem is NPR is against nuclear energy.
Every time you talk about a nuclear power plant, can't be built.
Can't be built.
Now, let me ask you, if
powering industries critical to our nation's global economic and technological competitiveness,
if that industry was, oh, I don't know, Tesla,
do you think
Musk,
everybody at NPR would be like, oh, Elon Musk is opening up Three Mile Island and it wouldn't be a big deal.
The deal, still quoting NPR, the deal will create approximately 3,400 jobs and bring more than $3 billion in state and federal taxes, according to the company.
It also said the agreement will add $16 billion to Pennsylvania's GDP.
Oh, so now money.
Money is a good thing over the radiation that you're going to receive.
The agreement agreement will span 20 years and the plant is expected to reopen in 2028.
Pennsylvania's nuclear energy industry plays a critical role in providing safe, reliable, carbon-free electricity that helps reduce emissions and grows Pennsylvania's economy, says Governor Josh Shapiro.
Unlike power plants using fossil fuels, NPR writes, like coal or natural gas, nuclear power plants do not directly release carbon dioxide or any other greenhouse gas emissions that drives global warming.
The particular nuclear reaction meltdown at Three Mile Island, NPR reminds you, happened on March 28, 1979, when one of the plant's two reactors' cooling mechanisms malfunctioned.
The reactor will be reopened to power Microsoft's data centers.
and was not involved in the accident.
Before it was prematurely shuttered due to poor economics, this plant was among the safest and most reliable nuclear power plants on the grid.
We look forward to bringing it back with a new name and a renewed mission to serve as an economic engine for Pennsylvania.
However, some state activists are worried that taxpayers are going to foot the bill for the plant's reopening.
We were told, let the marketplace decide.
Well, the market decided, and they decided it's not nuclear, said Eric Epstein of the watchdog group Three Mile Island Alert.
Former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates invested $1 billion in a nuclear power plant that broke ground in Kemmerer, Wyoming last June.
Okay, so hang on.
Now two power plants, both of them nuclear.
I mean,
has he been working on the paperwork to get that Wyoming power plant to be built?
Has he been working on it since 1983?
Because that's what it would take for anybody else.
By the way, editor's note from NPR: Constellation Energy and Microsoft are among NPR's recent financial supporters.
Oh,
well, it's good to know that there's nothing to worry about here.
Bill Gates is a responsible human being, and so is nuclear power.
It's clean, and it's good for the environment, and it's totally acceptable.
Now,
here's why blood shoots through my eyes.
Why do they need this power?
Not because you're having a hard time affording electric.
Not because you're having a hard time affording heat for your house.
Not because they want to get rid of natural gas.
and want all of our stoves and everything else to be run on electricity.
Not because we are switching over to battery cars, or that's what they hoped.
It'll never happen now,
but they hoped that we were all going to go to electric vehicles.
And as we found out, when California was having their latest crisis, I don't know if it was snow or floods or landslides or earthquakes or wildfires or any of the other things that happened in California.
But the last time they had a real problem, they had a drain on power and they said, by the way, if you have a new electric car, please do not charge it for a week
because we have a drain on the power supply.
Huh.
Did anybody talk about nuclear power then?
No.
We weren't even allowed to talk about nuclear power.
It was off the table.
We're not going to build nuclear power plants in the United States of America.
Okay.
All right.
Hang on just a second.
But Bill Gates can.
Hmm.
Before I explode, to explain that one, give me 60 seconds.
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Okay, so you have been struggling with power.
We all know that power is going to be a problem for the United States.
We know that if we don't increase oil production, if we don't increase fracking natural gas, or the easy way and the cleanest way to do it is to build nuclear power plants, we're not going to survive as a nation.
They have taken everything that will benefit you and either canceled it, made it more difficult, or just taken it off the table.
Number one
is nuclear power.
We've had to go to windmills.
We've said it's not reliable.
Okay.
Well, that's what you're getting.
And you couldn't even discuss it.
Okay, they wouldn't even discuss it with you.
It's just going to happen.
Now that Bill Gates wants power because he wants to be the king of the world with AI,
he needs nuclear power plants.
So he gets to build them.
It's almost as if we're not allowed to talk about that either.
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unbelievable gall
that this guy who's well connected and has access to AI and wants to control the world through AI,
He and his rich buddies and all the people he's paid for in Congress, he's able to buy or start up a nuclear power plant and build another one, but we're not allowed to even talk about one for us.
No, no, no.
We have to have nuclear power plants for our new god of AI.
If this doesn't show you
where you rank in this oligarchy,
Nothing will.
There is nothing that would save more lives than cheap, reliable energy.
The cheapest, most reliable, and the most climate-friendly is nuclear power.
Off the table for you.
But we can crap nuclear power plants like they're coming out of our butt for Bill Gates.
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That sounds a little like an Indian chant, Stu, just a little bit.
A little,
a little bit.
I may be.
I mean, I may be reading in too much
what these people are thinking when they just put these theme songs together, but you know, the Glenn Beck program, of course, they would be appropriating some sort of Indian culture in that.
You know?
Absolutely.
Nervous.
This whole show is based on appropriation.
It is.
It really is.
And we're pretty proud of that.
If you're staying from me, you've stolen twice.
Appropriate from you, you've appropriated twice.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you.
Okay, let me just ask you, Stu.
You know, the president has talked about the Panama Canal, which I think he's very serious about.
If he could take it back, I think he would,
but I don't think he can legally.
So I don't know what he's doing with Panama, but the Panama Canal, that's going to be a big thing.
In my view, could be wrong.
It's going to be an important thing to him and his administration.
But he again has brought up Greenland and buying Greenland, which I'm all for, quite honestly.
I mean, how much could it be, honestly?
What is
with Boom?
what's that i don't i don't i don't there's no comparables yeah um the um
you know the the the way that we waste money that would be the best thing we could do besides buying like gold or bitcoin uh that would be the best thing is buy land uh and uh it would be great and greenland is rich in resources um
you know i i don't know i mean i know they want to get away from denmark is it denmark or
just Mark?
It's like Mark's bullets, Mark who owns Greenland.
I don't know.
I think it's Denmark that they belong to, and they don't like it.
And they're told exactly how to live their lives from Denmark.
And they're like, we're closer to America than Denmark.
However, now listen, if this doesn't sound like negotiation.
However, we are not for sale.
I mean, we don't want to be in bed with Denmark anymore.
You know, and we are so rich with resources right now.
I just, I mean, we're really not for sale.
But hey, we love Donald Trump in America.
Look how you open that negotiation door and Donald Trump's going to walk through.
And Denmark, I mean, Denmark.
Well, maybe Denmark too.
Greenland will be ours if you open yourself to negotiation.
But he's also talking about Canada being the 51st state.
And I thought that was because of Trudeau,
you know, just making him into a governor.
But isn't there any chance he really would love to have Canada as a 51st state?
Well, yeah, I mean,
there are some arguments as to why not, but I think you start with why not.
If you could do it, sure, it would be great because of all the resources they have and all of that.
Though there would be a lot of negatives.
You'd be importing a lot of socialists into our voting room.
French.
You'd have all the French.
Yeah, you'd have a couple of new senators, right, that would come in that would be Democrats.
That would make things a little more difficult, at least in the short term.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of people who are not.
But you'd also get rid of the CBC.
And so, well, you'd be replacing with ABC.
But ABC looks like the blaze compared to the CBC.
Yes.
So
that's true.
You know, anything would be an improvement.
But then you also get all that socialized medicine.
Anyway, Canada.
is in so much trouble.
Canada is in the worst shape they've ever been in, at least in my lifetime.
And it's all because of Justin Trudeau, who is just...
Horrible.
I mean, he's an egomaniac.
He really is.
Did you hear his, quote, resignation speech yesterday?
It was great.
Could we make it about him anymore?
And just like...
In fact, Sarah, we have part of the speech.
Can we play part of his speech?
Over the holidays.
Okay.
I've also had a chance to reflect and have had long talks with my family about our future.
Okay, stop for a second.
Stop for a second.
Hold on just a second.
I've had time to reflect on what's right for Canada.
And I didn't spend any time talking about my 16%
approval rating.
It didn't even come up.
It didn't even come up.
But anyway, go ahead.
Throughout the course of my career, any success I have personally achieved has been because of their support and with your encouragement.
Yes.
So last night over dinner, I told my kids about the decision that I'm sharing with you today.
Okay.
I intend to resign as party leader, as prime minister, after the party selects its next leader through a robust, nationwide, competitive process.
Oh, so much like his dad, Fidel.
So
he says here,
I'm going to resign.
I'm going to resign.
Now,
what does that mean in Canada?
Well, he's going to do that after there's a robust effort to find a new leader for the Liberal Party.
Why?
Because currently the Conservative Party is beating them by 24 points.
So there's no way they're going to, there's absolutely no way they're going to win at this point.
So not only does he say it's going to have to happen, you know, after March 1st.
Okay.
So let's see, we had January, February, March 1st.
Okay, so two months to get your crap together.
But not only did he say, I'm going to resign sometime after March,
he has done
something that
I think we would call this martial law, maybe, or
I mean, he suspended the parliament.
It's called prorogued.
there in Canada.
I've porogued the parliament just until march uh and that's it so what does porogued mean
it means shutting it down pastries with the uh with the potato
yeah that's a pierogie porogued not so delicious uh porogued means you've done everything but dissolve the parliament You've shut it down entirely.
They cannot do it.
There's no reason to go to work.
They're in the middle of, you know, what Parliament and Congress does, which I can't explain to you, but they do a lot of stuff.
They're debating.
And
Parliament is starting to go the opposite direction.
So he's, can you imagine our president if Donald Trump just came in and said, you know what?
It's too critical of a time right now.
I'm going to be leaving office
in four years, but for the next three years, I'm just suspending Congress.
Can you imagine that?
No, of course not, because it's dumb.
That's what he just did.
It shouldn't be available as an option to the president or the prime minister to just stop Congress or the parliament.
No stupid system.
No.
Okay.
So the reason why he did that is not only just to stay in power and keep his policies exactly where they are,
but also
he did that so they can't have a no confidence vote.
Like today, if he would have said, I'm going to resign, the conservatives could have stood up and said, hey, let's have a vote of no confidence.
And they might have gotten that through.
So that means he just would be removed.
And that would mean that his party would lose to the apple-eating guy.
Now,
I have to tell you,
Pierre something or other, some French name, I know him as the apple-eating guy.
And that might sound like it's, you know,
not necessarily the right thing to do to call the next prime minister the apple-eating guy.
But
this is how I know him.
He did an interview with, I think, the CBC.
And this is a left-wing journalist, and he's in Vancouver, B.C.
And he's eating an apple.
And to make sure the reporter knew exactly how little he thought of them and their questions, he answered while still eating the apple, his body kind of half-turned,
not even really recognizing this guy fully.
In case you've never heard it or seen it, here's that clip.
On the topic, I mean, in terms of your sort of strategy currently, you're obviously taking the populist pathway.
What does that mean?
Well,
appealing to people's more emotional levels, I would guess.
I mean,
certainly you tap very strong ideological language quite frequently.
Like what?
Left-wing, you know, this and that, right-wing, I mean, it's that type of ideological stuff.
I never really talk about left or right.
Anyways, a lot of people.
I don't really believe in that.
A lot of people would say that you're simply taking a page out of the Donald Trump.
Like which people would say that?
Well, I'm sure a great many Canadians, but.
Like who?
I don't know who, but.
Well, you're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.
Okay.
I'm sure there's some out there, but anyways,
the point of this question is, I mean,
why should Canadians trust you with their vote, given,
you know,
not just the sort of ideological inclination in terms of taking the page out of Donald Trump's book, but
also thinking about what page?
What
give me the page.
You keep saying that in terms of turning things quite dramatically in terms of Trudeau and the left wing and all of this.
I mean, you make quite a, you know, it's quite a play that you make on it.
So I'm sure.
I'm not sure.
I don't know what you're questioning.
Then forget that.
Why should Canadians trust you with their vote?
Common sense.
Common
sense for a change.
We're going to make common sense common in this country.
We don't have any common sense in the current government.
So good.
I love that on the topic.
I mean, in terms of your just the crunching of the apple in the middle of the question, it is
so satisfying.
Here's what he said about Israel bombing Iran.
Listen to this.
Yesterday you said that you endorse Israel proactively defending itself by hitting Iran's nuclear sites, which is something that President Joe Biden does not endorse.
Do you not feel like this could lead to a likelihood of an all-out conventional war between Iran and Israel?
And do you not agree with Joe Biden in his assessment?
I think the idea of allowing
a
genocidal, theocratic, unstable dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow.
And if Israel were to stop that genocidal, theocratic, unstable government from acquiring nuclear weapons, it would be a gift by the Jewish state to humanity.
Yes.
Quick, porogue the parliament.
Porogue them.
Put them in jail if you have to.
I'll resign eventually when I've figured out a way to rig the system.
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Hello, Stu.
It is is your 1,000th broadcast today for the Stu Show.
Yes, Stu, what we would say is the 1,000th episode of Stu Does America on Blaze TV.
Yes.
Available, Blaze TV, podcast, wherever you get your content.
Very excited.
Still don't know why the thing has made it for a thousand shows, but hey.
You know, I believe in miracles.
Look, I mean,
only in America, as they would say.
Only in America.
Only in America.
Well, congratulations.
So, what's the topic today on your 1000th Studo's America show?
Going to be talking about the meta stuff that we kind of led the show with today.
I think that's really fascinating.
We have Brian Lilly on to talk about Trudeau stepping down,
which I will be very good.
Also, going over the
guests, the people who have been on the show the most often.
Can you guess who number one is?
Bill Collectors?
No, no, not that.
You, yeah, you're a fat face 141 times.
No, this is because you force me to do it once a week.
I try to.
I try to.
And then you come on, and the segments are usually, you know, not your best work, but
you show up usually.
Well, you know what?
I rise to the level of the host.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
So, yeah.
So
that's great.
Yeah.
Big one, I'm sure we're going to have all sorts of fireworks.
The budget for the show is huge.
So I can't even imagine what they're going going to spend on today's episode, but definitely worth checking out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Count your pennies.
Um, so anyway, uh, well, congratulations on that, Stu.
You know, they say 10,000 hours and you're a
pro at something.
So, another you've only got 9,000 more shows to go.
Wow, that's a lot.
I'd be very old by the time that rolls around.
Took me five years to get it.
Yeah, you'll be almost my age.
Yeah, yeah, almost my age.
Uh, all right, so um,
next hour, we have uh,
we have some things that are on AI.
We've got another statement from Sam Altman on
AI.
But we also have, do we have time to play the woman from
the BBC talking about January 6th?
They were filming.
They were filming for this, and it was a snowstorm.
And gosh darn it,
sometimes,
sometimes God has a sense of humor.
We'll play that for you a little later on in the program in case you have missed it.
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Sam Altman.
He is the guy from Open AI.
And yesterday, if you missed it, you should go back to the show and listen to the podcast.
Yesterday, hour number two was on the singularity.
This is something that I've been talking about.
Stu, I was talking about this, I think, before you even joined the show.
This might be the longest-running commentary that
I have in my career:
what's coming with technology and
AI,
AGI, and ASI.
AI is artificial intelligence.
General intelligence, it's what you are, you and I.
It's what we as humans, we're good at many different things.
AGI, artificial general intelligence, is like a human, except it's not just good at things, it masters everything.
Right after that is ASI, artificial superintelligence.
That's when AI becomes God.
It is more powerful than all of the brains alive on the planet today.
It is more powerful than any supercomputer.
It is, it's godlike.
Okay.
You won't be able to keep up with it.
You won't be able to understand it.
It is so far beyond humans.
We won't be able to, you just do what it says, thinking that it's right, because it
you don't know what it knows.
You don't know how it arrived at that.
You know, or you turn it off.
But ASI will not allow you to turn it off.
So
AI, we've had.
AGI,
according to Sam Altman, we are now at,
or soon will be.
We're at the singularity, which means Moore's rule of doubling the the chip power every two years is now over.
It's gone from that slope to a straight line up now.
That's the singularity.
Progress that is so rapid you won't be able to keep up with it is now where we're at.
And
AGI, artificial general intelligence, some people didn't think that we would get there.
Many, if not most of the computer scientists believed in AGI,
we could achieve that.
Most people did not think we could achieve the singularity until 2050, if at all.
And most computer scientists don't think that we'll ever get to ASI, artificial superintelligence, which could mean the end of humanity.
Okay.
Listen to this.
This is from Sam Altman, his blog.
that's just came out.
We started OpenAI almost nine years ago because we believed that AGI, artificial general intelligence, was possible and that it could be the most impactful technology in human history.
But we wanted to figure out how to build it and make it broadly beneficial.
We were excited to make our mark on history.
Our ambitions were extraordinarily high, and so was our belief that the work might benefit society in an equally extraordinary way.
At the time, very few people cared, and if they did, it was mostly because they thought we had no no chance of success.
AGI
In 2022, OpenAI was a quiet research lab working on something temporarily called Chat with Chat GPT 3.5.
We are much better at research than we are at naming things.
We had been watching people use the playground feature of our API and knew that developers would really enjoy talking to the model.
We thought building a demo around that experience would show people something important about the future and help us make our models better and safer.
We ended up mercifully calling it ChatGPT instead and launched it on November 30th of 22.
We always knew abstractly that at some point we'd hit a tipping point and the AI revolution would get kicked off, but we didn't know what the moment would be.
To our surprise, it turned out to be this.
The launch of the ChatGPT kicked off a growth curve unlike anything we have ever seen in our company, our industry, and the world broadly.
We are finally seeing some of the massive upside we have always hoped for from AI, and we can see how much more will soon come.
It hasn't been easy, the road hasn't been smooth, and the right choices haven't always been obvious.
In the last two years, we had to build an entire company almost from scratch around this new technology.
Now, he goes on to building the company and the technology, but I want to skip down
here.
We have done
what is easily some of our best research ever.
We grew from 100 million weekly active users to more than 300 million.
Most of all, we have continued to put technology out into the world that genuinely seems to be loved by people and that solves real problems.
We are proud of our track record in research and development so far.
We are committed to continuing to advance our thinking on safety and benefits sharing.
We continue to believe that the best way to make an AI system safe is by gradually releasing it into the world, giving society time to adapt and co-evolve with the technology, learning from experience and continuing to make the technology safer.
We believe in the importance of being world leaders on safety and alignment research and in guiding research with feedback from the real world applications.
So safety and alignment research.
What is that?
Well, safety, because
you saw at the beginning of ChatGPT just the hallucinations that ChatGPT could do.
Also, can it ever lie to us?
Can it or will it ever start to look at us
as we look at insects?
Will it ever start to see that Americans, or I'm sorry, not Americans, humans are the problem?
And the easiest way to solve our problems is to eliminate the humans.
So that's what safety means.
And alignment research means making sure that the AI and AGI and ASI,
which we will be insects to, okay,
it will have no time for us.
It will barely, we will be so far, and I'm using this term clinically, we will be so far beyond retarded to ASI that it will, it has no reason to pay attention to us at all.
So making sure that alignment, that our goals and it goals, its goals remain intact.
But how do you do that?
How do you build a fence around something?
Well, it's like this.
Imagine using a baby gate, you know, the kind that, you know, go over the stairs.
Imagine if somebody said, you know, I got to keep you out of this room.
And they put a baby gate up.
Is that going to concern you?
Are you even going to spend any time worrying about that baby gate?
You'll just step over it.
Okay.
It's bad for babies, but that's what we could do to ASI.
Anything that we would want to do,
it's so far beneath ASI, they won't even have to worry about it.
Okay.
We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it.
This is game-changing.
We believe that in 2025, we may see the first AI agents join the workforce and materially change the output of companies.
Stu, what is an AI agent?
I mean, I don't know that I know exactly.
When you talk about AGI and artificial general intelligence, I would think it would be like an assistant.
Like you could have them essentially do any task.
Like you, like you could assign an employee, right?
Like you don't need to program them to do a specific thing.
You could say, hey, we need you to answer the phones here.
We need you to, I mean, it might not be directly like that, but like it's that type of thing that it can take a generalized job, a role like that, and do it on its own.
Would you, if you were, if you were hiring people for a company and you had somebody that doesn't make mistakes and was
much smarter than everybody else in the room, would you have them answer the phones?
No, you'd have them in a really high-powered position.
Exactly right.
Right.
So an AI agent, now not the first, the first will be just like that, because remember, they say they're slowly going to roll this out so you get used to it.
The first one will be like a secretary, somebody who can take care of, I'll pay the bills, I'll take care of all of this stuff, and we will love it.
The first ones to join the workforce and materially change the output of companies.
will be something, and I'm just imagining this, so please excuse me if you're in this field
for my being a baby gate here.
But as I imagine it, it would be someone that you would have a virtual conference with that looks like a human, sounds like a human, you can have a conversation with, and you could say, look, can you help us on this?
We're trying to figure this out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they can game change for you your approach in your company.
That's what he thinks is coming this year.
Now he says, we're beginning to turn our aim beyond that to super intelligence in the true sense of the word.
We love our current products, but we are here for the glorious future.
With super intelligence,
we can do anything else.
Super intelligent tools could massively accelerate scientific discovery and innovation well beyond what we're capable of doing on our own, and in turn, massively increase abundance and prosperity.
Here's the thing, and I want to get into this tomorrow.
Massively increasing abundance and prosperity.
How?
Well, by becoming much more efficient, by spending less to
make more.
But who gets that money?
Where is that abundance?
Things will be cheaper, but if the jobs are taken by AI or AGI or ASI,
how do you make money?
A 30% disruption is coming in we will by 2030.
If things play out the way we believe they're going to play out now,
which is
a deeply unsettling of jobs and careers and everything else, at least at the beginning, you're looking at a 30% unemployment rate minimum by 2030.
Now, he goes on to say, this sounds like science fiction right now and somewhat crazy to even talk about.
That's all right.
We've been here before and we're okay with being there again.
We're pretty confident that in the next few years, everyone will see what we see, and the need to act with great care while still maximizing broad benefit and empowerment is so important.
Given the possibilities of our work, OpenAI cannot be a normal company.
How lucky and humbling it is to be be able to play a role in this work.
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because you've heard me talk about this stuff forever, and
one of the things we've wrestled with is that nobody cares about this stuff.
And I believe it's the most important conversation we could possibly have.
Are you beginning to
warm up to these conversations?
Are you, how do you feel about when we talk about AI and AGI and what's right on the horizon now?
Yeah, I mean, I've always been interested at some level.
I mean, it's not the day-to-day news interest that I think, you know, most conservative talk shows talk about.
Yes.
Though I think that's changed.
I would make that, and we talked about this years and years and years ago when you were talking about this, and nobody else was.
No one even had the basis of knowledge really to understand where you were coming from.
So it was like every part of the conversation had to be explained.
I mean, how many times did we say,
AI, that's artificial intelligence.
I mean, that's where we were at the beginning.
Now I think people know what AI is.
They don't know necessarily what AGI or ASI is, at least outside of this audience.
But I think now it is part of people's daily lives.
I mean, ChatGPT is the fastest growing app in history, right?
Like people are using it on a regular basis.
And I think like
we...
typically as conservatives, right?
Like there's something fundamental in a conservative nature that doesn't necessarily want, you know, likes what we have that works and doesn't necessarily want to change it.
If, you know, the fact that people have had jobs and have found meaning through those jobs and a way to contribute to society through work has been really important and something that we want to maintain.
But on the other hand, I think as this stuff develops, there's going to be things that come out of it that are so good.
We're going to have no choice but to accept it.
We're going to want to accept it.
We're going to demand it.
That's what happened with the phones, right?
I mean, I remember when cell phones, smartphones first started popping up, a lot of people in the audience were like, I would never carry one of those things around.
It's going to track me.
It's going to listen to me.
All that stuff.
And now,
you know, I read a stat the other day that we now as Americans spend 60% of our lives online.
60%.
I mean, and it was obviously zero 30 years ago
and are very close to zero.
And that's just risen up completely to overtaking time with friends, with family, at church, all of those other things combined.
Now, let me tell you, let me take you from there.
And I want to give you two new pieces of technology.
One is just still in the lab, but close.
And it is a breakthrough in brain-computer interface technology.
Meaning
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You could move things.
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It is now a reality
without
putting anything into your brain.
Pretty amazing, but that's the least of it.
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We're glad you're here.
Thank you so much for listening.
I
want to ask you about two pieces of new technology that is now available.
Sorry, one of them is still in the testing phase, but if it, you know, I mean, in China, it's going to be available, you know, probably tomorrow.
It's a Chinese research group that has been trying to create a
brain-computer interface.
And they have announced that they now have done it.
They've done it with a patient.
who has cerebral palsy, has a lesion on part of her brain that affects all of her motor skills.
So she couldn't move.
She really couldn't talk.
and
what they did is they implanted this piece this is exactly like um what's his name um elon musk is trying to do with his interface you implant something uh and then
that computer will be able to translate your thoughts into actions so the 21-year-old female patient epilepsy who had a space occupying lesion on the motor area of her brain
they put this in.
They
were able to train a neural network to translate within 60 milliseconds, which is a very slight delay.
You think it, and it becomes.
It would probably 60 milliseconds to
would be a delay of maybe
now,
now, right?
It's about 60 milliseconds, isn't it?
You know, I do.
It's a very slight delay.
It's a very slight delay.
Yeah.
you can do remote surgery uh at 10 millisecond delay
you a surgeon wouldn't be able to do uh have a computer do the surgery for him uh if he had to make the decisions because a 10 second millis a 10 millisecond delay you could cause too many problems um so
They mapped her brain within minutes of the surgery.
They then gave her, after she woke up, they gave her an initial
test and initial
ground rules on how to operate.
Following that one, that first training, she was able to play table tennis and, I don't know what this is, snake computer games within 48 hours.
In two weeks, she could operate the common smartphone apps.
But they say the really big deal here is that
it also could translate her thoughts into words so she could speak.
That's incredible.
How do you say no to that, Stu?
First of all, I think if it shows that it works, And there's, I mean, I can see that people will say no.
I don't want to be second in line for it.
But if it shows that it works and has a record of success, people won't say no to it.
They will say yes to it and they will be excited to say yes to it and they will wonder, how do I pay for it?
Right.
Like that is,
it's going to be excitement over something.
I mean, you have a daughter who's who's dealt with real issues and with seizures and you can go into whatever level of detail.
She has epilepsy and cerebral palsy and
her brain just doesn't function like everybody else's brain.
She's wicked, wicked smart.
But it takes her time to be able to understand and to repeat things back to you.
You know, it just takes longer time, longer period of time.
But the real problem is
the epilepsy.
She has seizures.
And she went in for brain surgery.
And she's the bravest girl I know.
I mean, what would you say to this?
She was going in
for brain surgery and because of her cerebral palsy, her,
you know, speech and memories and everything else is scattered all over her brain so it's not in certain centers where they normally accept expect so they said we're going to be doing brain surgery on all of your brain and the places we would normally stay away from uh or feel comfortable in we're not sure what's stored there.
So you could wake up and you might not be able to recall anybody's name.
You might lose memories.
You might lose, you know, parts of your speech.
And I'm sitting there going,
no, I don't think I would do that.
And she said, I'm good, especially if you can make me forget my dad.
I'm really, I'm in.
Do they take, you guys take requests?
I don't know.
Yeah, do you take requests?
Can you get to the dad center?
Anyway.
So, I mean, she did that and it worked for two years, but her seizures are back with a vengeance now.
And so, we're exploring other options, et cetera, et cetera.
But she said, no.
I said, you know, this AI thing, neural link from Elon Musk, I said, honey,
that could change everything.
That could,
you know, fix all of the problems that you have with cerebral palsy, maybe even make your body work the way it's supposed to work,
you know, speed up your thinking and your word recall and everything else.
Um,
and she said, No.
And I said, Why?
And she said, Because I don't want to be augmented.
Uh, she said, This is the way God made me, and God will heal me in his time, whether it's on this side of the veil or the other side of the veil.
I, I don't, I don't want to be augmented.
I mean, right?
You said she's the bravest girl you know, and that's there's a great example of it.
Uh, yeah, that's incredible.
Her faith in God is amazing, just amazing, and that's incredible.
I
don't know that the average family would be able to do something.
I mean, even you as a dad, wouldn't you be like, let's just say she was for it.
Wouldn't you be for it?
Yes.
Yes.
I think it would be incredible.
Yes, and no.
Yes and no.
I mean,
no, because I'm afraid of what this leads to.
Yeah.
But just on the surface, yeah, absolutely for it.
Yeah.
If she could relate
like everybody else, I mean, so many problems go away.
Like,
if you could come up with, let's just say there was an ancient Chinese medicine,
some herb, herbs and spices,
24 herbs and spices, 32 flavors.
They came up with a pair of...
Could make you likable?
No, that's way too difficult.
I'm saying
if that came out, let's just say that there's a rare spice they found in the hills of Nepal, and this will solve all of her problems.
You'd immediately say yes to that.
We would be in Nepal by this afternoon.
Right.
If,
you know, again, I know you're not the most trusting of pharmaceutical companies, but like
if a new medicine came out and that medicine cured it, obviously she's taken many medicines to try to help these things over the years.
However, she doesn't, that's one of the things.
She doesn't like her seizures.
She does not want to be on any drugs.
She's like, I'm tired, dad, of taking medicine every day.
And I'm like, yeah, I know, but it helps you.
But she just doesn't like it.
Is it because of like side effects?
Yeah, side effects.
And she also just doesn't like putting things, you know, she's a faith person.
She really believes in God and she wants her body to be clean and...
clear and look.
She just doesn't like it.
These decisions are incredibly personal, right?
You have to think about that.
Yeah, yeah.
But I do think
at some level, and I'm, this is, you know, switching to the way I think about things like this.
I believe that's one of the ways God works.
I believe the miracles of modern medicine is not just a phrase.
I believe that that is, that is, those are miracles.
And the fact that we can improve life that way, not every, obviously you have to, it's a case-by-case basis.
But like, I look at that stuff and say, that is how God acts a lot in our world.
I agree.
I agree.
And so can't can't you make that same argument with Neuralink?
I mean, the fact that like
I could, I could, but you have to remember that
portal into your brain is a two-way street.
Yeah.
It's taking things out
and also helping put things in eventually.
So it.
I don't want an access.
I don't want access to my mind.
Yeah.
That is coming in other ways where I don't think they're going to need to put something into your head,
but I don't want what's in my head
accessible, either out or in.
It's mine.
Right.
It's the essence of who I am.
And it's going to be interesting to see people and how they react to this.
You've brought this up before, Glenn, talking about the singularity and all these other things that are associated with it.
But it's like, if everybody around you
is doing this and they are now 50 and 100 and 1,000 times smarter than you and they have all the good jobs and your life sucks because you're not doing this,
how many people are going to be able to resist that temptation?
I think the number is low.
And so this is Ray Kurzweil.
And this is why the brain interface, this is why Elon Musk is doing what he's doing.
He's not doing it just to help people with seizures or, you know, Alzheimer's or whatever.
He's doing it because he believes that once the singularity arrives, which is right now, once we have ASI, super intelligence, which is very close,
we are not going to be able to function.
Because we won't be fast enough to understand it.
Okay.
So it would be a brain-computer interface where that
will put knowledge into it.
You want to speak French, you need to speak French, you speak it.
Okay.
It's just, it's the translation is already there in your head.
You'll be able to understand at the speed of computing.
And, you know, Ray Kurzweil said to me years ago, he said, Glenn, everybody will have this.
It'll be so cheap.
Why wouldn't you have that?
And I'm like, because maybe you like the way you are.
And he said, you'll be a danger to the rest of society.
You know, you can't put
some, you don't put somebody who likes to drive 35 miles an hour onto the highway because they cause too many accidents.
If you can't think at the speed of what everything is moving at, you become an obstacle.
And his thought was then you're going to have to be isolated, but nobody's going to do that, quote, nobody's going to do, nobody's going to say no to this.
Well, I think there are a lot of people, Amish, but just like the Amish, they have to kind of stay in their own area right they can't take their horse and buggies out on the highway on the highway right and i i do think that that's going to be a real a real central sort of philosophical you know decision that over the next 20 years people are going to have to really make
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um here's here's another thing that is all already now on the market remember i said you have to live till 2030 and there will be no death is what ray kurzweil told me because we'll be able to download you into a machine.
Well, the first version of it is out and available on the market.
I'll tell you about it tomorrow and tell me that you
aren't somewhat attracted to it and go, well, actually,
I think
I like that.
Because that's where I think based on what it's advertising.
Wait until you hear that.
That's on tomorrow's program.
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This is Glenn Beck.
So, how many times have you said or we've we've said,
Melania is,
I mean, she's the most beautiful first lady we've ever had.
She is so soft-spoken.
She is so kind, so smart.
And they've just trashed her all the way along.
Yeah, I think.
Listen to this news.
Yeah, I would argue it was maybe the most centrally obvious point of bias.
by the media because she's not really political, if anything.
She seems to be left on a bunch of stuff.
But because she was married to Donald Trump, they had to ignore her beauty.
They had to ignore she was a supermodel, wouldn't put her on the cover of magazines.
And that's how the entire first term went, right?
The entire time.
I do think things are changing, though.
Listen to this.
Melania Trump has signed a documentary deal with Amazon, Amazon Prime Video, for $40 million.
This is going to be about her life, cameos from the president,
son Donald Trump Jr., or Baron Trump is apparently going to be in this as well.
That is not, that would not have happened and did not happen
in the first term.
No, that's this is a continuation of the meta story that broke this point.
That meta is getting rid of all of its so-called, in their words, so-called experts.
to
define the truth and misinformation.
They're going to go after the model of X, which is strange, seeing that they hate X so much.
But this is a continuation of that.
Now $40 million
from Amazon to
write to the first lady.
And I'd like to talk about this tomorrow.
And I think Donald Trump is the kind of guy that we don't have to worry about on this, but does anybody worry?
I mean, I think it's normal.
Your friend does really, really well, and you're like,
is he going to forget about us?
Is he going to forget about, you know, the people who brought him to the party?
Is he going to change?
I don't think so.
But,
you know, money doesn't talk, it screams.
And there's lots of money and popularity coming his way.