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It is Thursday.

If you're a farmer,

your chickens may not just have the sniffles.

It could be bird flu.

The first severe human case has happened.

Now it happened in Louisiana, but Gavin Newsom knows he better invoke emergency action right away.

Wait until you hear this story with Liz Wheeler joining me again today on the Glenbeck program.

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Hello, Liz.

Hi, Glenn.

Good morning.

How are you?

I am great.

I am great.

Let's start with bird flu.

Gosh darn it.

That bird flu.

We knew it was coming.

I mean, Bill Gates warned us, you know, and he strangely knows when these things are happening.

But the bird flu is here.

Now, it happened in Louisiana.

It happened to a farmer.

He's been hospitalized.

He's in critical condition.

He's experiencing severe respiratory illness related

to H5N1 infection, which is bird flu.

CDC says the patient was likely exposed to the virus from a backyard flock, which could be the first time such a flock has been associated with bird flu infection in the U.S.

Now, an investigation into the source, they're questioning the chickens right now.

Some of the chickens are in line to be questioned.

One of them was caught coughing.

But another one had the sniffles.

So we don't know who gave the farmer the flu, but Gavin Newsom is about to spring into action, right, Liz?

I heard that even though this happened in Louisiana, Gavin Newsom heard about it because he was at the French laundry restaurant up in San Francisco.

That serves really nice chicken.

They do, yeah.

So, yeah.

I mean, very expensive chicken, but anyway, go ahead.

Only suitable for Gavin Newsom.

Listen, on March 19th of 2020, I lived in California.

Unfortunately, I'm a survivor.

I lived in San Diego when he locked down the state, and the experience was like, no, I mean, we weren't allowed to go outside.

I was sitting in a park on a hillside by my house.

And when I say park, I mean a grassy hill, not a playground.

And a police officer on an ATV comes up to me and goes, ma'am, this park is closed.

And I was like, I'm just sitting here.

There's nobody else around.

And he's like, well, social distancing rules from Gavin Newsom.

And I was like,

you're the only one that violated is you on your ATV.

Exactly.

And I pointed that out to him, but he didn't think it was amusing, as amusing as I did.

Although I couldn't really see because he had a mask on.

Yeah, okay, good.

He might have been smiling under that mask, most likely not in California.

I don't think anybody is smiling in California.

Gavin Newsom is the Justin Trudeau of America.

He really is.

I mean, the guy is a wannabe dictator.

Now, when I say that, I don't mean that he, you know, his...

His father is Fidel Castro.

I didn't mean that literally, that he is Justin Trudeau, but he's the closest thing that we have to Justin Trudeau.

And so he said

that he passed a proclamation.

The proclamation I'm quoting is targeted action to ensure government agencies have the resources and flexibility they need to respond quickly to this outbreak.

Now,

I don't know about you, but I think if it's in Louisiana, it might come through Texas first and then New Mexico, and then, well, nothing really goes through New Mexico, and then

Arizona, and boom, there it's in California.

But California is responding first.

And when I think bird flu, I think we've got to have some emergency measures and more money going into the government and their state coffers so they can enforce common sense rules.

And that's what he's doing.

He said, building on California's testing and monitoring system.

Oh, that was so good last time.

We're committed to further protecting public health.

Oh, he's doing it for us, gang.

Supporting our agriculture industry, ensuring that Californians have access to accurate, up-to-date information.

How does this guy, how does he say this with a straight face?

As $176 million are poured into Moderna's coffers for bird flu vaccine development, that's from July of 2024.

It's COVID all over again.

Who would have guessed it?

Who would have guessed it?

Well, I mean, again, Bill Gates did.

The World Economic Forum did.

You know, they were fighting disinformation during the election.

They said that was the number one threat.

But I bet if we check, I bet bird flu or some sort of pandemic is back at the top of the charts.

You know what's funny?

With a bullet.

You know what's funny in his proclamation?

He actually confirms that he says there have been no documented instances of human-to-human transmission to date.

Yeah.

While the risks to the public remain low, yeah, I'd say like almost at this point, unbelievably low, like zero, because you've never, you've had chicken to farmer transmission, but not farmer to farmer or human to human, because

animals are people too.

When I say farmer, there could be some monkeys on the loose.

In Florida, oh my gosh, I never thought of that.

All of those monkeys, if you had

monkeys will mysteriously start popping up in neighborhoods on your bingo card for this year

you might be you might be a big winner i didn't have that on my bingo card but apparently in florida monkeys have become a problem and they're saying uh if one of them is at i'm not kidding i'm not making this up if one of them is at your window or your door, don't open it.

That's, you know, that's

that's pretty good advice.

I didn't think I needed that,

but

then again, I didn't think I'd see monkeys at my door, you know, so what do I know?

Anyway, back to California where things truly make sense.

The governor's office said 34 cases of bird flu in humans have been detected in California.

Okay.

Okay, 34 cases.

Have you heard about all those horrible, horrible deaths of the 34 people that caught the bird flu?

Yeah, but do you know when I saw the report, it looked like they'd taken a magic eraser and just scrubbed out COVID and put bird flu.

So they have some similarities, those deaths do.

That just, you know, we should believe everything these government officials tell us, Glenn.

We shouldn't question

anything.

You're right.

It's horrible.

And I'll bet it,

I'm going to say this, and I'm going to say it.

I'm not saying it behind their back.

They just refuse to listen, okay, to radio.

I bet it comes from the Amish.

I bet the Amish milk is somehow or another.

I bet the birds with a cough or the sniffles are pecking the udders of the Amish cows, and it's going into raw milk, and those damn Amish people are spreading this cow milk bird flu all over the one guy in Louisiana.

That's got to be the answer.

Let's get to government on them.

Let's all get together and say enough with the Amish.

You're making a joke right now, but truly on his proclamation, I'm reading it right now, he talks about reducing raw dairy product contamination.

He actually is going after the raw milk.

Oh, my God.

Let me address you.

If you're living in California, okay, let me just.

Why?

Why?

Why?

I really like the weather.

Yeah, yeah, I love the weather in California.

I've always wanted to live in California.

It was my dream to work at KFMB in San Francisco.

Always wanted to live.

Since a kid, I wanted to live in.

But at some point,

I sobered up.

I went into Alcoholics Anonymous and I realized...

Well,

that's a really bad idea.

What are you doing in California?

Get out while you can.

Take it from Liz.

What was it, Liz, that you fought, was the final, final straw?

Was it the park?

Or what was it that you went, I

can't do it anymore?

Truly, the tipping point for me leaving California was the fact that we left in November of 2020 because I was six months pregnant.

And I was like, wait a second.

We can't raise a child in California safely and to be a good and holy person.

I, as a parent, don't feel like I have rights over my child.

And so we packed up our stuff and out we went.

You don't.

So may I recommend if you're living in California, get pregnant.

It'll sober you up quickly.

Even if you're a man, get pregnant.

Because in California, we know men can get pregnant.

So get pregnant right away.

You'll sober up and you'll get your ass to Texas.

Now, if you're in California and you're like, this sucks.

I want to vote exactly the same way because I'm completely clueless as what's causing all of these problems in California.

I'm going to move to Texas.

Stay away from our state.

In fact, I'm in Nashville, Tennessee today,

and I would just like to say, you're starting to wreck Nashville.

Get out of our states.

You know,

I personally have no problem with real estate agents when they see the...

the number come up and it's like, oh, it's a California area code not answering the phone.

Or saying, man, all of our listings have just

burned in a horrible fire while we were losing our guns in the lake.

Gosh, I don't have a problem with that.

I really don't.

You know, Liz, I found out that

Melinda Gates was looking at a house in my neighborhood.

Melinda Gates?

I about had a heart attack.

I feel like the sound of the Wicked Witch of the West is like coming in.

It was.

It really was.

All the neighbors met and they're like, We gotta stop this.

How do we stop this?

Yeah, pull your money, buy the house out from under her, prevent her from moving in.

We were ready.

We were ready.

But anyway, back to Gavin Newsom, who is the Justin Trudeau of Canada.

And I think what's happening to Justin Trudeau

is in the future of Gavin Newsom.

I don't know if you, you know, Gavin Newsom has a favorability rating now of

12

for anybody who said oh donald trump's the pariah of the world he didn't have an approval rating of 12.

he had an approval rating of what was his lowest like 38 38

that's that's the himalayas compared to a rating of 12.

uh and in canada that's like eight people anyway um There is a new song out that I think it's our responsibility.

I don't like making fun of Canada, but I do like making fun of dictators and because they hate it so much.

I would like to encourage any of the radio stations

near, you know, Detroit, crank this one up.

Maybe they can hear it in Canada and any Canadian radio station with any balls whatsoever.

And I know that you have all kinds of government limits on you, but if you have any cojones at all, you'd be playing this song for

your audience by the guy who started Five for Fighting.

Yes, indeed.

Here's the new song from John Andrassic:

Justin Trudeau

wants you to know

that he never played hockey.

Justin Trudeau

has got to go

It's damn clear he never played hockey

Totalitarian

parliamentarians

They have no mind to skate

Their only love they hate

They'll freeze your bank account

The mountains they won't mount

To trample on your rights

like Phoebe Dell

Justin Trudeau

is rather slow

it's too bad he never played hockey like the great one

this potato

has got to go

and get someone who played hockey

he likes to arrest you

while wearing tailor shoes

the black-based bolshevik would never last one shift he wouldn't shake your hand after a seventh game

he has no on a code like tidomi

and bar pro

burt Oh

Canada

He's not part of a team He's wimpy and he's mean

He's the emergency

The true notes strong and free

He never ate a puck

He doesn't give a truck A gaudy how hat trick

The thought would make him sick

If he just scored one goal

His heart would have a soul and understand

assists

are more than shots that miss

and know humility,

freedom, liberty.

It's more than just a game.

God save us.

Justin Trudeau

wants you to know

he never played hockey like the great one.

Justin Trudeau

has got to go.

Yet someone who played hockey.

John Andrezik, he is fabulous.

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Oh, the weather outside

Oh my gosh.

Suddenly, right before we went on stage,

we, she went on stage last night, my daughter,

at the Grand Ole Opry.

I didn't want to vomit blood anymore.

I was perfectly calm.

And all of that was transferred right directly to her.

She walked out on stage.

Her first couple of notes, you could tell she was very, very nervous.

And then she just...

She just nailed it

and was fantastic.

She opened last night.

They don't ever do this for King and Country, but they allowed her to open last night.

They've got two other nights now at the Grand Ole Opry.

If you've never seen them, this is their Christmas show.

If you've never seen them live, it's almost as if you haven't seen a concert.

They are so incredible.

I saw them in Kansas City about four months ago, three months ago.

And then I saw them again last night.

Different show.

This is all Christmas.

And it is so

good.

One of them brings his wife up on stage, and she's a, I think she's a Latin country singer.

She's unbelievable.

This talent is like riddled in this family.

Anyway, for king and country, thank you, as my daughter said on stage last night, for making a little girl's dream come true.

All right.

So let's see.

What else do we have to talk about?

Oh,

Trump.

uh

i think trump is where is now leading something that is becoming very apparent even to the republicans notice i didn't say conservatives i said republicans

the johnson year-end spending bill

wow did that go down in flames i mean I could see my daughter on stage from the Rockets red glare coming out of Washington, D.C.

on that bill.

We'll talk to you about that and where we're headed next.

All coming up.

We've got a great program lined up.

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Glenn back.

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Maybe it's much too

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From the

new release from Cheyenne Grace,

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But get it for your family.

You're going to love it.

It's all traditional Christmas music done kind of in with the arrangements that everybody knows.

Anyway,

let me go back to

Donald Trump and really you, X,

you, talk radio, and Donald Trump and J.D.

Vance are the ones that killed this horrible bill in Congress yesterday.

And I haven't heard an official, it's dead, but everybody that I've talked to say, oh, it's not coming back.

And Donald Trump said, I want a clean, continuing resolution.

I don't want any, there's no

ornaments on this tree.

None.

Pass this and just keep the government functioning, nothing else.

That's exactly what they should have done the first time.

There is a great article at Glenbeck.com, The Deep State's New Plan to Backstab Donald Trump.

If you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year, because there's this attitude right now, and I don't know if you've sensed this, Liz Wheeler,

but there is this attitude that, oh,

Trump's elected.

And that's exactly what we did in 2016.

And you saw what we got four years later.

Now, we brought this change.

And we're here, and people are thinking it's fixed.

I talked to

Lear Capital and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in

emergency

and things like, hey, back up your money.

And they said on election day, they can see phone calls, phone calls, phone calls, election, nothing.

And that's what happened in 2016.

And I have to tell you, please don't do this again.

There is so much to clear, and we're only at the beginning.

That wasn't the end.

It feels peaceful now, but believe me, political war is going to be turned up to 11.

So please don't rest on your laurels and think everything is okay.

It's good.

We can be positive, but let's not deceive ourselves.

You agree with that, Liz?

I think we are very different than than we were four years ago.

Trump, or eight years ago, I should say.

Trump is very different in the sense that he understands how the deep state operates.

You can see this in the way that he speaks.

You can see this in the policies that he's presenting.

You can see this in who he's surrounding himself with advisors and cabinet nominations.

But we are very different too, because complacency can be our worst enemy.

It certainly, I would argue, has been in the last 50, 60 years.

This is not a recent thing.

But yesterday should prove that we know what we're doing this time differently than the last time, too.

We understand that we have a role not just in casting our ballots, not just in the lead up to an election, making an argument for a candidate, but being an intricate part of every minute detail of a transition and administration.

And I've never seen this.

Maybe you have seen this.

I have never seen this before to this level in my entire political life.

And I don't think people are planning on stopping that.

Yesterday was an example of us doing it better.

I saw it in 1980 because we were in a similar situation, but not as bad as we are now with Jimmy Carter.

And so I saw it back then and it lasted for a while.

It lasted in probably until, oh, maybe 90.

It lasted a decade.

If we can get a decade out of this, that would be great.

We need 12 years.

to be able to really make an impact.

And we need 12 years of the Republicans in the House and the Senate.

If you don't get that, it's going to be a lot harder to do this.

We have to reverse everything.

And, you know, there's two stories in the

Washington Examiner, both of which I enjoyed and think are something you should read.

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The Washington Examiner has two stories in, and I agree with both, but

I want to caveat on these.

First, the first story is really great.

It's about wiping the smile off Barack Obama's face.

And it ends, in 2016, the then President Barack Obama mocked in a tweet in which Trump called him perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States in 2016.

That's what President Trump said.

Obama said, at least I will go down as a president, and then had the little mic drop, you know?

Okay, all right.

Well,

he did too.

In fact, he's going down as one of the only presidents who have ever lost a second term and then won it because you, because let's be honest, Barack,

this is your administration.

This was you.

This wasn't Joe Biden.

This was you and your people and all the people you trust to transform the United States of America.

And finally,

you have been defeated.

So I, you know, gosh,

I hate to point it out, but you are going to start losing

your image.

And you already have.

People are starting to go, wait a minute, I don't think Barack Obama was who I thought he was.

Then there's another story in Washington Examiner that you need to read, A Conservative Comeback in the Culture War.

And it is so satisfying, and I think so true.

It says over the preceding 21 months, this is talking about how,

you know, the culture had completely changed.

And Joy Reed came out on MSNBC and she said, you know, the John Wayne era is over.

The right literally can't win.

Cultural progression is relentless.

Once people get a taste of modernity, they almost never go back willingly.

Okay, so she...

She had a right to be hubris at that point

because they were wiping the floor with us.

Honestly, in October, gang, let's all remember, we thought the country could be over.

We didn't know who our neighbors even were.

And we said to each other at that time, if this country votes for

more of this, then they don't understand liberty and the Constitution.

They don't want it anymore.

Well, they didn't.

And I think part of that is because God came to the rescue and did the things things that we couldn't do.

But we did do the things that we could do, and that is get out and vote.

But he held the,

quite honestly, the judgment back from us so we could go out and vote.

Now God has done his part.

We know he's not neutral in this.

He's done his part by saving Donald Trump from assassination.

We went out and vote.

Now God's saying, okay, so what are you going to do with it?

And if we piss it away and think that Donald Trump, God bless him, I think he's amazing.

He is not the same man.

He's going, he has the possibility.

And

I used to hate when people said this about anybody.

Oh, he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln.

I'm telling you, he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln, but only if we do our part.

And the thing about that article in The Examiner is

it please

let's not get cocky.

Come on, Luke.

Don't get cocky, kid.

Don't do it.

Leads to bad things.

Liz?

It reminds me, I feel like we're in one of those Dr.

Franklin moments where he says, madam, a republic if you can keep it.

Yes.

It's this moment where we have this great celebration because something tremendous and extraordinary just happened.

We have just freed ourselves from the oppressors.

And we should take a moment and say, wow,

we should bask in the enormity of that moment, but also we should understand that

like a marriage not being the end of a courtship, it is the beginning of an adventure.

That is where we are in this cultural battle too.

The work and the adventure are now beginning.

Remember,

it was common sense that brought us to the Declaration of Independence, literally and figuratively.

Thomas Paine brings us to the Declaration of Independence.

And everybody was a Sunshine Patriot.

Everybody was on board.

They were so excited.

By Christmas, after that happened in July of the same year,

by Christmas, the whole thing seemed to be over.

Everybody had lost hope, and he wrote the American crisis.

Sunshine Patriots, yeah, you're of no use.

We're the winter soldiers.

So we're right now at that first part, common sense.

We did it.

Yeah, common sense wins.

But it's going to get tough and we're going to need the winter soldiers.

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Glenn, we have video.

We've just gotten video of your daughter, Cheyenne, performing last night at the Grand Old Opry.

This is actually a backstage video.

If we could play this first, first, that's why I haven't even seen this.

That shows how it's so darling.

That shows how nervous she is.

Take a look at this.

All right.

David, here we go.

No, I don't want to do it anymore.

I don't want to do it anymore.

Someone hit me.

Oh, God.

Oh, my God.

Curtain's going up.

For everyone, I just wanted to take a second to just express my gratitude to be here.

I know the formula was

a little small, and this is just like such a beautiful mind.

I'm just so grateful that I have this gift from God to share with the world and to share with you guys tonight.

So I just wanted to say to me, I do forgiving a little bit of this new culture.

Oh my goodness.

Does it have anything from her singing at all?

Yeah,

lots of toys and hoodies on his sleigh.

Look at that stage.

And every mother's child is gonna spy

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Twice.

Twice.

Yeah.

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We have Congressman Barry Lautermilk on.

He has,

well, he's pushing for Liz Cheney

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not just be investigated, that's already happened, but maybe

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and others did on the January 6th

scandal.

He released a report yesterday that is scathing and not stunning if you didn't have faith in our government and

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the committee looking into January 6th, says Liz Cheney should be investigated for witness tampering.

That's what he came out with yesterday.

They've been doing an investigation, but there's a lot more to it.

Barry, welcome to the program.

Ben, thanks for having me on.

Hey, and thank you for covering this.

So many media outlets won't even touch anything with January 6th, but you've been very consistent with it.

I have to tell you, I was at my ⁇ I was at ⁇ I don't want to get really specific because it might hurt them.

I was at a place of business.

Somebody I know who's completely rational, big business person,

they happened to be in Washington that day.

They were outside of the Capitol.

They did nothing.

And they were just charged

with six felonies.

And I said,

what's on the videotape?

And they said, we did nothing.

We did nothing.

We happened to be there, but we didn't do anything.

And it's gone crazy, Barry.

It has absolutely gone crazy.

So, you know, when you look into these things, what do you think the biggest discovery or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and verified?

Well,

besides what we're going to talk about with Liz Cheney, I think it's

the tremendous failures in several areas of our government and then the subsequent cover-up to try to cover up their failure.

And

people just closing

their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything when it was a massive failure on several fronts.

And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've

made this point in the report: is

the FBI will go to great lengths using video footage to find a grandma who goes into the Capitol Praise and then leaves, or someone like the person you were talking about who just happened to be out there, and charge them with crimes, but yet they have no idea who placed the pipe bombs.

That's not true.

And part of that is because they pulled resources away from that investigation.

And then, as we released in this report, they lied about the evidence that they had or supposedly had regarding the pipe bomber.

They told us that, well, the identity of the pipe bomber is within

data that we received from a major cell phone carrier that was corrupt, and then

we couldn't get it because is that not true?

That turned out to be a lie.

No, it is not true.

Oh, my God.

We've been investigating that.

Obviously,

it's kind of easy to find who the perpetrators are now because they all retired recently.

Once we started this investigation, you've seen a lot of retirement.

This was the field office director here in Washington, D.C., told the select committee on January 6th, well, we were investigating and we subpoenaed all the major carriers, but one carrier, the data they provided us was corrupted, and that's the data that the pipe bomber would be in.

So we took that, we went to the three major carriers, asked them all, and we kind of knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because we wanted to see what we could find out.

All three of them said, yes,

we were subpoenaed by the FBI.

We did provide data.

All three of them said the FBI never came back to us and asked for the data again, telling us it was corrupted.

And then the last question I asked was, do you still have the data?

And all of them said, yes, we keep data for every major event.

And in fact, the one carrier said, we still have all the data from the Oklahoma City bombing.

Oh, my God.

So

that agent absolutely lied because he

was corrupted and we couldn't get it because it was no longer available.

This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of

special investigations.

I think you're right.

I can't verify that, but I think you may be right.

But what gets me is,

okay, they put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to all links to find anyone who is around the Capitol.

That is not an equal application of the law.

You know, it's also interesting.

They didn't even investigating, according to your report, they did no investigation into who constructed the gallows.

Tell me about that.

So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to, except for the Democrats, because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this, this campaign for the Democrats was going to be run on January 6th.

That was what they had.

They totally messed the economy up.

They totally blew our standing nationally.

We were a big national security risk.

Basically, this administration was a complete failure.

The only thing they could run on was January 6th and that Donald Trump is a traitor to our country.

We systematically dismantled that.

But the one thing that they had was the gallows, and they would put the gallows up in their early campaign ads.

Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up.

They claim it was people

who put it there to hang Mike Pence

because he wasn't going to object to the

certification of votes.

But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what Pence was going to do until one o'clock in the afternoon.

And the gallows was put up at six o'clock in the morning.

So how could they

hang Mike Pence when nobody knew what he was going to do?

Right.

So we started looking into, because my initial question was, how was that gallows allowed to stay up on Capitol property all day long

and even into the evening?

You know, you can't put up a little stand on the Capitol property without a permit.

It's immediately taken down.

How would the Capitol Police allow that to stay up or the park police, whoever, a gallows, how was it allowed to stay up all day?

So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation the FBI did into it so we looked at our videos for the capital surveillance videos and we could see where the the people carrying the gallows came from they they had a hand truck full of lumber pulling it up I think it was up Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenue so I put a team on this and they started looking and said all right let's go to every government building along the street and ask them two questions.

One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do.

Do they still have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten?

And the third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video?

And the answer for every one of them was no.

Jeez.

The FBI spent no time looking into who erected the gallows.

Wow.

It's absolutely shocking.

It was a clear picture of one of them.

So, yeah, there.

There was a total,

there was a lot of effort put into convictions, but it was only only on one side.

It was on one side.

Congressman Laudermilk, it's Liz Wheeler.

I'm sitting in today for Stu here at Blaze HQ in Dallas.

Question for you.

According to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers.

Do you know not just that Liz Cheney and her January 6th committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data, but do you know the identity of the pipe bombers?

We don't know the identity, but this is being done in coordination with the Judiciary Committee chaired by Jim Jordan.

And so we've done our part of the report.

They're working on their

part.

I expect it to be released sometime next week.

I know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming, but we want to make sure that we get it right.

And so we're compiling all the information they have and we have.

And

we're not going to identify who it is because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of potentially

where they came from.

I mean, we were able to track their vehicle

that they were in that the FBI never went

to

look for.

Congressman, let me ask you this.

Let's go back to Liz Cheney here because

you say she should be investigated and possibly tried.

I hope if these things are true, I hope every damn one of these people, no matter which side they're on, are put in jail.

Have you found enough

to have

a reasonable grand jury say, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be a trial?

And can you get it out of Washington, D.C., which will never be a fair trial?

Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch.

And I've said all along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the current Department of Justice.

No.

We have a new Department of Justice coming in.

Yes.

So we are,

this is one of the reasons we're making this referral.

Let me just real quickly lay the basis of why I'm saying Liz Cheney should be investigated because Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness, came in and testified before the select committee twice under oath.

The third time, she started changing her her first two testimonies and then the fourth time she totally came out with all kind of crazy stories, right?

This is about Trump attacking Secret Service officers, throwing food and chanting that Mike Pence should be hung.

Okay.

She significantly changed her testimony to the point where she would have committed perjury either before or after.

What changed?

What changed?

It was between her first two and the next two that she started communicating directly with Liz Cheney.

This is,

and Liz even said this is unethical.

So let's just use Liz Cheney's own standards.

All right.

In July of 2022, Liz Cheney, and we have the video of her doing this in a committee,

referred Donald Trump to the Department of Justice to be investigated for witness tampering because

he said Trump tried to contact a witness.

He wasn't successful.

He only tried to contact a witness.

So they assumed it was witness tampering, and they referred him to the Department of Justice.

Now let's compare what

her standards to what she did.

Cheney did communicate with a witness, didn't just try, did, and even acknowledge that it was at least unethical to do so.

Oh, my God.

Who after their communication did change their testimony?

And according to...

Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney and that Liz Cheney did help her find a new one.

And then Liz Cheney did try to have Stefan Pacentino, who was her first attorney, tried to get him disbarred and basically tried to ruin his life.

So now, just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness, he should be investigated, versus what she actually did.

And we have it documented that she did these things.

This is why we're recommending the Department of Justice investigate her for witness tampering.

It's not tit-for-tat.

I'm just saying if she laid the standard that just trying to make a phone call is witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.

If honestly, I said this during the Trump

impeachment hearings when they filed those.

I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth.

The same thing with COVID.

I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, six or eight months into it.

We did an honest investigation, and I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may.

Just seek the truth.

And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to jail.

Either side, if you were at January 6th and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing through the windows, you know, and, you know, hitting police officers, et cetera, Yep, probably you should go to jail.

You should have a fair trial, but you should go to jail.

But not the innocent.

And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty look innocent should also go to jail.

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Congressman Barry Lautermilk is with us now.

Congressman,

I'd like to know how engaged is Cash Battell in this?

Are you briefing him?

Is that coming?

Has he been involved in any of this along the way of knowing where the bodies are buried?

Or does he have to start January 20th?

No, he's been following the work we've been doing.

We haven't had direct communications until recently.

And one of the reasons is when I took this on, when then Speaker McCarthy asked me to take on this project, I told him I would do it under two conditions.

One, you give me the resources to conduct a real investigation, not a politically driven one, and that I would do it from an unbiased standpoint.

Just as you were saying earlier, if people did bad,

regardless of which political side they're on, we'll report it.

I'm just going to get to the truth.

And so we didn't want to have any collusion in any other area.

But as truth started coming out, and especially after the election and just leading up to it,

Cash had been engaged with us as far as the reports we're sending out and asking some questions.

So he has been following our work very closely, as I know the Mar-a-Lago has recently, and

getting geared up because I think there may be

they're very interested to make sure that justice is done equally.

Let me ask you, Congressman, in your report, you say that there was information that was withheld from Liz Cheney and her committee's final report, in addition to the fact that there was was a terabyte of data that was somehow deleted.

It was just expunged from existence.

Do you know what, A, what information was withheld from that final report that would have painted a very different picture?

And do you have any way of accessing the deleted data?

Well, to answer the second question, well, the question about what was missing, yes, we know what was missing, and we're releasing it publicly.

Just to give you an example, it was any witness testimonies that exonerated Trump or

line up with Cassidy Hutchinson's.

So for instance, Cassidy in her

fourth testimony comes up with these elaborate stories like the Trump trying to take the steering wheel of the SUV.

As soon as she said that, within days, they had that emergency televised hearing where they created her in front of the entire world and she told these stories.

They took no effort to corroborate those stories.

All you had to do was subpoena the Secret Service driver and ask him these questions, which they did after the midterm elections months later.

So when they finally called the Secret Service agent in to testify, they never even asked him about this incident.

He had to insert it himself, and they tried to stop him from saying it.

To candor it.

Our testimony.

Believe it.

And everybody else's testimony that was different than hers,

those testimonies were sent away.

As far as deleted documents, we know that they got rid of all the videotapes of all the testimonies.

And some of those could have exonerated like Stefan Posentino.

Unbelievable.

Congressman, thank you for the hard work that you guys are doing on this.

Thanks for seeking the truth and nothing but the truth.

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Tomorrow will be my last broadcast before Christmas and the new year.

And, you know, at this time of year,

you know, I wrote a book called The Immortal Nicholas, and it was a story that I wrote for my kids originally.

And it's a story of the made-up part of Christmas,

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Nicholas is actually real, but Santa.

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And so it's called The Immortal Nicholas, and it takes you through the Christmas story

and explains Santa's eternal nature, if you will.

It's really my best effort to try to make sense of this time of the year, but there are so many parts of the Christmas story that we don't know or we don't really think about.

And one of that is the three wise men.

What were they doing leading up to the birth of the child?

You know, who were they?

When did they actually arrive?

Because they weren't in Bethlehem.

And so we have Dr.

Wave Nunnelly.

He is

Evangel University Professor.

Is that how you say it?

Evangel

of early Judaism.

Go ahead.

Yes, Evangel University.

Evangel University.

And are you Jewish or are you Christian?

I am not Jewish.

I am Christian.

Okay.

And you're over in Israel, right?

Or you've been doing this?

Have been recently, but am now happily at home here in the United States.

Okay.

So

you know really the real history of what that was like back in that time.

Who were the wise men and why are they important and what were they doing?

So the wise men are important, but they actually, Glenn, they don't show up at the birth of Jesus.

Right.

According to Matthew 2, verse 16, we're told that Herod killed the babies two years old and under, according to the time that he had ascertained from the wise men.

And so these guys are actually getting on the scene at least a year and a half, up to two years after the birth.

And so really the only true birth narrative that we have is in the Gospel of Luke rather than Matthew.

Right.

And so

the wise men, how did they know each other?

What were they doing?

They were kings.

What did that even mean back then?

Yeah, very good question.

And the reason for me is because so many people

see them, the Greek word is magoi.

It's where we get the word magistrate or magnificent or magnanimous, M-A-G.

And it basically in Greek and in the classical Greek authors, they're using that for very important people.

But for whatever reason, modern scholars have turned them into sorcerers, astrologers, diviners, and that kind of thing.

And it really throws people for a loop because, A, what are sorcerers, diviners, and astrologers doing at the birth of Jesus?

And then, why do we never hear about them repenting and renouncing the black arts and then embracing Jesus as the true way?

So, who were they, actually?

Well, there is a use of that word,

Magoy, Magi,

for

Persian astrologers.

But there's also a version of that word that says these are really great men, you know, like magnificent.

They're great men, or they're very important men.

I wrote part of a book back in 2004

where I suggested that these guys were more than likely members of the Jewish community in Babylon and that they were following

not just astrology, they were following a Bible passage, Numbers chapter 24, verse 17, that says that a star is going to arise from Jacob and a scepter from Israel, scepter meaning rule.

And so they're looking for the new development in their Judaism.

Possibly they could have been representatives of the huge Jewish community that was in part.

We're coming to Jerusalem to try to get their heads around what is this new development in the history of redemption.

Professor, I have a question.

This is Liz Wheeler.

I'm sitting in for Sue today.

You say that there's not necessarily historical substantiation for the fact that the three wise men were astrologers.

I find that fascinating because just like any part of history, the left likes to try to rewrite Christian history.

Do you know when that narrative that the three wise men were sorcerers or into the dark arts, when did that emerge in that narrative emerge in history?

It's actually beginning in the second and third centuries A.D.

The

early church fathers, kind of like the disciples of the disciples,

or the apostles,

they're beginning to suggest this as early as 100, 200 years after the time of Jesus.

So it's really a long,

it has a lot has a long-standing history as one approach to trying to understand who these people were.

By the way, there probably weren't three of them.

That also shows up not in the New Testament, but in much later writings.

And more than likely, there were lots of them because A, you don't travel in small groups, especially the kind of journey that those guys had to take

over 9,000 miles to get to the land of Israel.

And across a desert on the trade route at a time when there was a sort of like a Cold War going on between the Empire of Rome and the Empire of Parthia.

And then you have all kinds of highwaymen that could have done them harm.

So you don't travel as a small group.

It was more than likely a dozen or more,

maybe dozens, who were traveling.

And they got the attention of Herod the Great immediately because these people, these two different empires, Rome and Parthia, were in a stalemate in their

war against one another.

And these guys show up speaking a different language, dressed differently, and they're asking a question that bugs the heck out of him.

And that is, where is he who has been born, not appointed by Rome like Herod the Great was, but born king of the Jews?

Wow.

So let me go back to the beginning here with Joseph and Mary.

What do we get wrong or what do we not know about who they were?

Joseph and Mary, I think in Christian tradition, have kind of been idealized to the point that when you see them in pictures, they have halos and, you know, they're just like

super duper people that are

perfect and the like, but they're normal people like you and me.

And the things that the Bible does tell us

about Mary and Joseph, we tend to kind of look over because our idealized picture is so wonderful and beautiful.

but we get in Matthew

in Matthew 2 verse 19 Joseph is described as a person who is dikaios it's a Greek word that means righteous but you put that back into Hebrew he was a righteous person how do you say that in Hebrew he was a tzadik and this puts him in a in an elite category already in his world in his culture that says that he goes above and beyond what God expects and he is very well versed in the Bible, and he is very much Torah observant.

So, how when his wife says to him, by the way, I'm pregnant, if he's really, really devout, that's got to be a hard one to swallow right off the bat.

Yeah, it really is because

not in the law of Moses, but in the laws of the rabbis,

he's got to split a hair between two opposing requirements.

One is

you never put a fellow Israelite open to shame.

It's all but murder.

And people who do that go to hell and have no chance of redemption.

The other side of it is, though, that the rabbis required that if you were in a state of betrothal and your wife became pregnant by one of your friends, then you were required to divorce her.

So what does Joseph do?

He He splits that hair perfectly, and he decides to divorce her privately.

It's right there in the Bible.

And it's absolutely amazing how textured this narrative is, how closely connected it is to the Judaism of the land of Israel in the first century.

Doesn't this give you also

a different look at, you know, people who say, ah, the Christmas story or the, you know, the birth and everything, it's not real.

We know that um

we we know that the uh apostles were jews and it was supposed to go to the gentiles but it was also supposed to go to the jews as well and this would have been a death sentence uh for the story right off the bat that they were betrothed uh she was pregnant and that's that's the godhead the baby, the result.

Wouldn't that just be, I mean, that would be horrible to say in that society, right?

It is a very difficult situation that these people find themselves in.

Maybe that's the reason God chose such incredibly well-prepared people for the task.

You ask about Mary.

Mary was a person who's described as a favored one by Gabriel.

She's a virgin, and that's important in that culture.

She had kept her integrity.

It also calls her, she calls herself a bondslave or a bondservant of the Lord twice, and

she quotes scripture by heart, and she goes above and beyond, like Joseph, the requirements of the Torah, because they went, according to the Gospel of Luke

chapter 2, verse 41, every Passover she went from Galilee to Jerusalem, and women were not required to keep that law.

Men, yes, but women, no.

And so you've got both of these people.

They're sold out.

They're in this all the way.

Wow.

100%.

And that's one of the, I think those are among the reasons why God picked those people as opposed to maybe some less committed folks.

We're talking to Wave Nuttalley about the Christmas story.

And if you'll hang on just a couple of minutes,

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We're with Evangel University Professor of Early Judaism, Dr.

Wave Nunnelly.

Doctor,

the idea that they had to go to Bethlehem to register for the tax, I've heard from so many scholars, that didn't happen.

Did that happen?

I believe that it did, Glenn.

We have evidence from a first-century Jewish author named Josephus Flavius, and he records census activity taking place in the eastern Mediterranean at this very time.

There are some small differences between his account and Luke's account of the census, but we've definitely got census activity going on, and there's a reason for it.

Augustus Caesar had embarked on this thing called the Pax Romana, the Roman-imposed peace, and he's building the first set of interstate highways all over the world to deploy his troops.

And he's trying to rid the Mediterranean of piracy.

And for all of those kinds of things, building projects, et cetera, he's got to have money.

And so he's raising it wherever he can.

It's amazing.

It's always good to talk to people who actually know and have spent their life studying this.

Thank you so much, Doctor.

I appreciate it.

Hey, you're very welcome.

I'm just, I want to congratulate you on taking on the topic and sticking to the facts.

Can I tell you a super quick story?

Real quick, yep.

Real quick.

I was in Israel, as I often am, and teaching a study group, and we were at the church of the Annunciation in Nazareth.

And this lady said, look, after you've taken away all the myth and all the legend and no Christmas trees and no tiny Tim and no little drummer boy corner,

what are you left with?

And the answer from another person in the group was, I guess, just Jesus.

And that's what Christmas really is about.

It is.

It is.

Thank you.

Dr.

Wave Nunnelly, you can find him at wave nunnelly.com.

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He's Calvin University Professor of Communications.

I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally, well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication.

But this guy we're having on, he is

not only emeritus professor of communications, he's teached, he taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller ever on radio.

Welcome, Quentin.

How are you?

Wow.

Thanks so much, Clem.

You know, that was the thing.

I was a new professor of communication, and generally generally professor with a PhD means piled higher and deeper.

And but in this

so in this case, I thought, you know, storytelling is the most potent form of human expression, no question about it.

And I thought, who out there is the best storyteller that I could learn from firsthand?

Because that's the way you really learn.

I looked at the textbooks and I'll forget it.

And I had known of Gene Shepard.

We shared a hobby called ham radio.

I listened to him on WR radio for years.

And so I looked up his call letters and his home address through the FCC directory and I said, dear Mr.

Shepard, I'm a wet behind-the-ears communication professor and I want to learn storytelling.

Would you teach me?

And lo and behold, he wrote back.

He couldn't believe that a professor was actually going to him.

You know, most professors are not humble enough to ask other people for advice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he said, yeah, let's do it.

So we began corresponding and all.

And then I invited him to teach with me.

And as far as I know, except for the director of A Christmas Story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing, how he told stories, and what he was doing in the movie A Christmas Story.

He wrote the script for it.

And let me just tell you, Glenn, what he taught me absolutely blew my mind.

It revolutionized my teaching.

It revolutionized my relationships with people to be able to tell stories really well.

And

it was stunning.

And the number one thing I learned from him is that every one of his stories is a parable, a parable.

In other words, it works on two levels.

There's the entertainment level, and you say, that's a funny story.

Look at that guy with his leg lamp there.

Oh, ho, ho, you know.

But then

I'm talking to Gene, and I said, Gene, what about that leg lamp thing, man?

What about it?

I just don't quite get that one.

It's a parable?

Come on.

What are you talking about, man?

He says, Quinn,

that leg lamp is a trophy wife.

I said, what?

He said, yeah, it's a trophy wife.

The old man falls in love with, becomes obsessed with that leg lamp that he pulls out of the carton that arrives.

And right away, he's smitten by it.

He's in love.

And he said he wants to go put it in the front window.

For what reason?

To turn on the neighborhood.

And so Gene explained to me that in his worldview, guys are incurably romantic toward women or secondarily other things.

Could be cars, could be rifles, could be other technology.

And they fall in love and they get so smitten by these other things that it interferes with their relationships.

So mom knew when she saw what was going on with the old man in that leg lamp that she was going to have to do something.

She was going to have to get this, Glenn, end the affair by breaking the lamp, which she did.

So the whole movie, A Christmas Story, is filled with these parables.

And that one is number two in my book of 20 parables, which is called Curtail Your Obsessions.

And it applies especially to men.

Unbelievable.

You're so good, Professor.

This is Liz Wheeler.

I'm sitting in for Stu today.

When we were talking about having you on right before the program, I was like, oh, he styles himself as a storyteller.

Please, I'm waiting to be impressed.

I was engrossed in your story.

Tell me, so that's number two on the list.

What's number one?

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I love when there's hidden messages and parables and Easter eggs and stories.

What are some other ones?

Yeah,

one of my favorites is what I call tackle your technology.

Now, Gene Shepard believed that human beings, particularly men, create technologies, but they can never fully control what they create.

So the technologies always get out of hand, and things happen that were unexpected, and they break down.

And, you know, he and I shared this hobby, Ham Radio, so we would talk about our rigs, as we call them, going bad.

But he's got this wonderful thing in the movie with the furnace downstairs.

So the old man is sitting there, you know, enjoying at the kitchen table where the family really happens, their relationships happen at that table.

And he's listening, listening, listening.

All of a sudden, he hears clink, clink, clink, and he yells clinker,

and he takes off, puts his gloves on down the stairs to try to fix that furnace.

Now clinkers were pieces of coal that would not burn fully and they were still hard and they would fall to the bottom of the furnace and go clink, clink, clink, and they were really frustrating.

And so he periodically has to go down there.

to try to fix the furnace.

Well, and I'm talking to Gene Shepard, the screenwriter of a Christmas story about this.

He says to me, Quinn, that's my nickname, Quinn, he says, you know that the old man runs down the stairs because he's headed toward hell.

I said, what?

He said, yeah, he's going down to the seventh level of Dante's inferno, where with all the soot and all the heat and smoke and everything else, he is going to stare face to face.

with that demon of a furnace and he is not going to win the battle.

He said to me, that's the way all technologies are.

Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought and we get into trouble.

And the more I thought about that, I thought, man, he's brilliant.

Another part of that in the movie is the car.

The old man has this 1937 Oles touring sedan.

And that sucker would freeze up at the equator in the middle of the summer, he says.

So he's always running outside in the middle of winter to pour hot water on it to try to get it going.

And of course, he has problems with plugging in the Christmas tree and plugging in the leg lamp.

He's blowing fuses all the time, although he could replace those fuses faster than a jackrabbit on a date.

That's another story.

And so

my favorite life lesson from the movie A Christmas Story really is

it comes to the fore at the end.

And Bob Clark was such a great director.

And so there are two scenes at the end, these scenes of reconciliation and peace.

One is where the old man and mom are together in the at the end of the day on Christmas.

Mom turns the light off and the two of them sit down together

and

they're touching each other.

They're reconciling.

I mean, they've been battling over the leg lamp, really, the affair that's going on there.

And so they're reconciling, and they're looking out through the window, which is the same window that the leg lamp was in.

And you see the snow falling down.

By the way, that wasn't really snow.

Those were potato flakes being thrown from the roof because

there was no snow.

But what's interesting about this also is that Gene pulled on a lot of biblical themes,

and the leg lamp gets placed among the plants because Gene said to me that those plants are mom's garden of Eden.

that she waters and likes to keep going and keep them green and vibrant.

So when the old man takes this this tawdry, ugly, humanly concocted leg lamp and puts it right in the middle of the Garden of Eden, and of course the leg lamp itself represents sin in a way because it's an affair obsession he has, she knows he has to break it.

So, when they're on the sofa together, looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside without the leg lamp there.

And

you can give thanks that they have reconciled.

It's just so wonderful.

Wow.

Anything behind the shoot your eye out?

Oh, yeah.

In fact,

I titled my book, You'll Shoot Your Eye Out, because it's the most searched term related to the movie A Christmas Story.

Of course, Ralph, he's trying to get the rifle.

He goes to his mom, that's not going to work.

He goes to Ms.

Shields' teacher, and she writes on his theme, but yes, you'll shoot your eye out.

Then he goes to Santa and gets into trouble with Santa at the top of the mountain.

By the way, that mountain that he climbs up to to pitch Santa, his last resort, remember, it's his last resort.

That mountain, Gene said to me, is like going up to petition God.

Or on Christmas, you get a lot of kids, and they believe that they can somehow petition Santa and get what they want.

And Ralphie doesn't really believe it, but he's going to give it a try.

And so he's going to go up there, and then, of course, he gets kind of pushed with Santa's black boot down

the uh the slide which they got from a

a swimming uh pool company and uh and and santa says you'll shoot your eye out kid so gene said to me repeatedly that if there's one big lesson in life to really be careful about it's our lack of humility as human beings we do things that cause trouble for ourselves like we would say you know you put your foot in your mouth

and and so he used that term, you'll shoot your eye out, as a way of getting at this.

We have to be more humble and be careful and watch out for what we do in life.

So it really, that runs throughout the movie in many ways.

Man, you should do commentary on

the movie.

I'd love to watch the movie with you doing commentary.

Maybe you could just come to my house for Christmas as we watch it.

It's unbelievable.

Yeah, what's interesting is that I had all these notes and all from teaching with Gene.

He died in 99, and I thought maybe someday I'd write a book about storytelling and him.

And the movie, when it came out in 83,

did not really do well.

And so I thought, well, why write a book if the movie is not going to do well?

And every year it sells more and more copies, and

more people see it.

40 to 50 million in the U.S.

alone see it every year.

And so finally, my wife said to me last year,

stop just talking about it and entertaining people at dinner.

You've got to write the book.

So that's what I did, Glenn.

Wow, boy, she must be tired of this story because I know my wife's tired of all my stories.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

Quentin, hang on just a second.

I got to take a one-minute break.

We'll come back.

The name of the book is

You'll Shoot Your Eye Out.

You'll shoot your eye out.

It's not just the parables behind that.

It's mainly that.

But also, he goes into storytelling.

And as you can tell, he's a very good storyteller.

But he learned from, I think, the best, Gene Shepard.

Quentin Schultz, be back just in just a second.

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Quentin Schultz, that you can find at quentenschultz.com, is the author of the book You'll Shoot Your Eye Out: Life Lessons from the movie A Christmas Story

that was released over the summer.

Kind of a bad time to release that book, Quentin.

But

it's great now.

It is great now.

I want to know:

is there an overall theme?

Is there something that he was trying to get at in the overall movie?

That, well, the way I would put that, Glenn, is that he wanted to reflect back to us

the drama, the everyday drama of life,

the good and the bad, the ups and the downs,

but then end with some grace, some hope.

And so that's how he framed it.

That was really his worldview was that human beings get themselves into all kinds of trouble,

but often we get out of it in spite of ourselves.

And so that's what happens.

So there are various kinds of redemption and all in it.

Even the old man who is salivating for that turkey, he just has to have that turkey.

And then when the bumpus hounds come over and the bumpus hounds, that's another whole part of it.

But when they come over and snatch the turkey and the old man is left standing there holding the wing and you wonder, is he going to eat it or what's he going to do and he drops it and he says all right everybody get upstairs get dressed we are going out to eat

and they go to bow ling's b-o-w-l-i-n-g but the w is out on the sign so it's bow ling's uh chinese restaurant and uh gene said to me that what he was trying to get at there is the fact that we have to be flexible in life.

And he used to tell me that being in the entertainment business that he he was and many different media, you had to be flexible because opportunities would open and close.

But he said that's the way life is.

And so he wanted toward the end of the movie to show that the old man could be flexible and for the benefit of the family.

And so they had a great time at the Asian restaurant together.

And by the way, if people don't know, Gene Shepard not only wrote the screenplay, but that's his voice that is doing the voiceover.

It's the older Ralphie.

and Gene had such a good voice, and he knew how to deliver these lines in a way that it really makes the movie sing.

So, Quentin,

one last question.

We're up against the network break.

Let me ask you if there was,

which came first with him, the parable or the story?

Yeah.

Did he make a list of the parables and then say, I'm going to craft a story, or did he craft a story and then put the parables in?

Yeah, it's a great question.

In fact, I've never been asked that question before.

And if a student had asked that, I'd say, hey, you're on the way to at least C plus, you know.

That's what Ralph he gets.

And by the way, that's what Gene got in his college creative writing class.

He got a C plus.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, so the way Gene operated, he'd look around the world, observe the world, see what was going on, make notes about things, find interesting things going on, and he'd say, well, what's the principle behind that?

And then he would come up with some principle like men are incurably romantic and women are practical and rational.

And then he would start to build the stories around those life lessons that he observed.

I got to tell you, you're still teaching, aren't you?

Part-time, here and there.

Well,

I would love to take a class from you.

You have a lot to teach.

You're the first communications professor I've ever talked to that I think

boiled it down to the right things.

It's all about story.

Quentin, thank you so much.

Really appreciate it.

The book is, you'll shoot your eye out.

You can get it now.

It makes a great Christmas gift.

You should go get the book and then watch the movie after you've read the book with your family.

It's so great.

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Yeah.

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Actually,

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Anyway,

Minnesota in their state capital, they've always had the Christmas tree, and then they added the menorah.

Well, you can't add, you know, two global religions

without adding Satan, right?

Am I right?

So the state of Minnesota allowed the Satanists to put up a phoenix coming from the ashes and their all their satanic symbols

in the rotunda of the state capitol with the Christmas tree and the

menorah.

It's unbelievable.

This is the problem with the modern Republican Party, is they've bought into this idea of neutrality and libertarianism, and they refuse to say that any belief or principle is better than another.

They only want this idea that like, oh, okay, well, you've chosen to worship Satan and I've chosen to worship the true God.

Our beliefs are equal, so we should have an equal platform.

No, that's never how our country was intended to be.

Our country was always intended to be governed along the idea that liberty is not the end in of itself.

Liberty is the means to virtue.

Liberty is supposed to allow us to be an ordered civilization so that we can pursue God.

We should not allow Satanist.

No, and you know, and first of all, the Satanists will tell you, we're not a religion.

Well, if you're not a religion, then why are you in the rotunda?

Because that's, you know, Congress shall establish no law.

So

that doesn't really work.

You are absolutely a religion.

By the way, so is climate control.

Absolutely a religion.

So is wokeism.

Absolute religion.

And no, don't think it should be in there.

Also, they're just stupid if these so-called Satanists don't think that demons are real.

Like, you might not realize that you're worshiping demons, but that's what you're doing.

Oh, I think they know.

I think they're probably pretty clear on that.

Let me show you

some footage now from

the local Minneapolis news on this.

And Liz, I want to just get your live reaction here.

And go ahead and roll.

Cut 12, please.

So religious symbols at our state capitol are not a new thing.

For years, a Christmas tree has been installed in the rotunda.

A menorah has been lit outside, honoring Christian and Jewish seasonal traditions.

But this year, the display of a Phoenix sponsored by the Minnesota Satanists,

joined a bunch.

Stop.

You freeze that.

That's so mean to make me react to that live.

You can actually hear it in her voice before when she said Christmas tree, religious symbols.

That's how it makes her cringe.

If you're watching the Blaze right now, you are seeing

Rachel Maddow's.

Yeah, Rachel Maddow's much butchier, man-like sister.

Wearing brown velvet.

Is that brown velvet?

Brown corduroy?

Probably brown corduroy because that just screams liberal.

Brown corduroy suit.

And then these big glasses.

And she just scream.

When she's on,

the only thing I could think of when I saw this was, hi, I'm a liberal.

And I'm going to tell you the news from my liberal point of view.

I mean, it would be like having a guy dress up like Uncle Sam and sit behind a news desk and give you the news.

What do you think he's going to say?

That is one of the, forget about the Satanist thing.

That was a red herring to get this newscaster

who I've never, I mean, when people say, what do liberals look like?

Right there.

Right there.

Am I wrong, Liz?

No, you're not wrong.

It shouldn't say breaking the news.

It should said, it should say the unhappy news.

Look at her.

I actually feel a little bad for her looking at her because she doesn't, she seems like the idea of Christmas might be painful for her.

I don't.

She looks

angry.

There's not a single die-hard liberal that is happy.

They're not.

No.

I mean, the die-hard ones.

They're not.

You could be hippie or misguided or, you know, stupid and be happy.

But if you're really that deep progressive, there's no no way you're happy.

There's not, it's not possible.

Maybe a statue of her will be erected next year for the religion of wokeism.

Yeah, maybe.

She'll probably write into the show afterward and tell us.

Actually, I'm a conservative, guys.

That's so mean.

Yeah, I watch Yellowstone, so I understand the movement.

Let's see.

There's also a story from the New York Times.

And it's a column by their ethicist.

It said,

it's a write-in from somebody whose name was withheld.

I have an 85-year-old neighbor who is a sweet friend and a caring person.

My issue is she's very religious and I'm not at all.

She prays for me and says it in person, text, emails, for even the most minor situations.

I've told her my view of religion and if she doesn't need to pray for me.

She said she has to, otherwise she's not following the Bible.

I'm trying to ignore this, but it's really bothering me that she can't respect my wishes.

you know if you're not religious at all

why does it bother you just think this old lady is wasting her time talking to you know some sky invisible sky god that doesn't exist why would it bother you that she's thinking it could bother you you're like she's just she's just wasted her whole life but you'd have empathy for her Why does it bother you if people say they're praying for you?

You'd think it would make this person feel loved, actually, because even if even if the non-religion person, non-religious person doesn't believe in love, if you look at this old lady's worldview for a moment, she's trying to follow the Bible, meaning living according to Jesus's teaching.

God is love.

She's trying to love her literal neighbor here.

Right, right.

It's because agnostics aren't really agnostic, right?

No, I don't think so.

I mean, I think

some are.

I think Pennillette said he was

first he said he was an atheist and I think he's switched to agnostic.

But I think he's saying that out of, I'm not so arrogant to make a claim that I can't prove one way or another.

Well, he probably wouldn't be bothered by a neighbor praying for him then.

No.

No, I actually, I talked to him one time and he said, isn't your church very into missionary stuff?

And I said, yeah.

And he said, you know, we've been friends now for a couple of years and you've never mentioned me coming to God.

How is that working?

He was actually kind of, he was like, how is that working?

I mean, if we're friends and you won't say that, and I was like, because I know, and then he went down the, oh,

so you are the mind of your God.

You know that it, what I'm saying.

And I'm like, I was actually not, I was trying not to offend you.

And he's like, so you assume that I'd be offended that you loved me you're like this is why this is why like I know

this I knew we'd have this conversation

anyway the interest it's interesting the response from the New York Times what would you think

how would they answer this woman in the New York Times

I mean, the New York Times is not going to write an article five, 10 years down the road when this non-religious person has converted thanks to the prayers of her neighbor and saying listen those prayers actually were effective we're never going to see that from the new york times

so here's what the new york times says i'm glad that you've been honest with each other about your very different views concerning prayer but the stakes for each of you don't seem comparable if you don't think these prayers will do you any good you presumably also don't think they'll do you any harm.

By contrast, she thinks that you'll be worse off without them and therefore is praying for you.

It is her duty.

The only reason you give for objecting to her prayers is that she has failed to comply with your wishes.

Yet I don't find that she has been treating you with disrespect because I don't see that you have the right to those wishes of yours to be complied with.

You seem to be asking her not to do something she thinks she has compelling reasons to do.

I thought that was disrespectful.

So you're not entitled to insist that she stop including you in her prayers.

What can you fairly ask?

It's simple that she refrained from informing you about them.

Still, instead of requiring you, that your 80-year-old neighbor change her ways, I wonder if you might be able to change yours and learn to accept this woman for who she is, hearing her prayers as a sincere expression of her loving feeling toward you.

From the New York

Times.

That's actually beautiful.

And I will admit something to you.

I didn't read that because I don't pay for the New York Times and this is paywalled.

So you asked me to read that before and I'm like, no, I can't because it's saying I have to pay for it.

Here's the great thing is I pay for it as a show expense.

And so I

write it off.

And so I get, I pay less to the government because of the New York Times.

Oh, that's like a

happy.

Yeah.

This is a good trade-off.

I would not have expected that from the New York Times.

That's actually a very well-thought-out response.

It is.

And it is.

I don't disagree with it.

I don't either.

It's wise.

That's a first, I think, at least in a long time, Liz and I both have said, huh, I agree with the New York Times.

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You know, the old saying goes that

sometimes wisdom comes right out of the mouth of babes.

Well, I have to tell you that it also comes out of the mouth of really, really, really, really, really old people, but not in the case of Joe Biden, cut one.

You know,

I don't know how

you look your constituents in the eye and know because the job they gave you gave you an inside track to make more money.

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

So he'd like money to be gotten out of politics because he doesn't know how politicians can look people in the eye.

Okay.

Now he also, a little late, but on this one,

he realizes realizes groceries might be a little expensive.

One thing that we haven't been able to change yet, and it's starting to change, is that you go to a grocery store, a dozen eggs, a gallon of milk, a pound of bacon, still costs more than it did before the pandemic.

That's a lot of money for people.

It's taken time to change that.

There's reason for frustration, but there's gigantic change made.

To quote Steve Martin in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles: gee, do you think so?

Congratulations, Mr.

President.

Liz, we'll see you tomorrow.

Thank you so much.

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