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the noose, and the gallows on January 6th.

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Okay, Barry Lautermill,

I think House GOP

head of the

committee looking into January 6th, says Liz Cheney should be investigated for witness tampering.

That's what he came out with yesterday.

They've been doing an investigation, but there's a lot more to it.

Barry, welcome to the program.

Glenn, thanks for having me on.

Hey, and thank you for covering this.

So much, so many media outlets won't even touch anything with January 6th, but you've been very consistent with it.

I have to tell you, I was at my, I was at, I don't want to get really specific because it might hurt them.

I was at a place of business.

Somebody I know who's completely rational, big business person,

they happened to be in Washington that day.

They were outside of the Capitol.

They did nothing.

And they were just charged with six felonies.

And I said,

what's on the videotape?

And they said, we did nothing.

We did nothing.

We happened to be there, but we didn't do anything.

And it's gone crazy, Barry.

It has absolutely gone crazy.

So, you know, when you look into these things, what do you think the biggest discovery or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and verified?

Well,

besides what we're going to talk about with Liz Cheney, I think it's

the tremendous failures in several areas of our government and then the subsequent cover-up to try to cover up their failure.

people just closing

their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything when it was a massive failure on several fronts.

And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've

made this point in the report, is the FBI will go to great lengths using video footage to find a grandma who goes into the Capitol praise and then leaves, or someone like the person you were talking about who just happened to be out there and charge them with crimes, but yet they have no idea who placed the pipe bombs.

That's not true.

And part of that is because they pulled resources away from that investigation.

And then, as we released in this report, they lied about the evidence that they had or supposedly had regarding the pipe bomber.

They told us that, well, the identity of the pipe bomber is within

data that we received from a major cell phone carrier that was corrupt.

And then

we couldn't get it because they were.

Is that not true?

That turned out to be a lie.

No, it it is not.

Oh, my God.

We've been investigating that.

Obviously,

it's kind of easy to find who the perpetrators are now because they all retired recently once we started this investigation.

You've seen a lot of retirement.

This was the field office director here in Washington, D.C., told the select committee on January 6th, well, we were investigating and we subpoenaed all the major carriers, but one carrier, the data they provided us was corrupted.

And that's the data that the pipe bomber would be in.

So we took that, we went to the three major carriers, asked them all, and we kind of knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because

we wanted to see what we could find out.

All three of them said, yes,

we were subpoenaed by the FBI.

We did provide data.

All three of them said the FBI never came back to us and asked for the data again, telling us it was corrupted.

And then the last question I asked was, do you still have the data?

And all of them said, yes, we keep data for every major event.

In fact, the one carrier said, we still have all the data from the Oklahoma City bombing.

Oh, my God.

So

that agent absolutely lied because he

said it was corrupted, and we couldn't get it because it was no longer available.

This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of

special investigations.

I think you're right.

I can't verify that, but I think you may be right.

But what gets me is, okay, they put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to all links to find anyone who is around the Capitol.

That is not an equal application of the law.

You know, it's also interesting.

They didn't even investigating, according to your report, they did no investigation into who constructed the gallows.

Tell me about that.

So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to except for the Democrats because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this campaign for the Democrats was going to be run on January 6th.

That was what they had.

They totally messed the economy up.

They totally blew our standing nationally.

We were a big national security risk.

Basically, this administration was a complete failure.

The only thing they could run on was January 6th and that Donald Trump is a traitor to our country.

We systematically dismantled that.

But the one thing that they had was the gallows, and they would put the gallows up in their early campaign ads.

Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up.

They claim it was people

who put it there to hang Mike Pence

because he wasn't going to object to the

certification of votes.

But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what Pence was going to do until 1 o'clock in the afternoon.

And the gallows was put up at 6 o'clock in the morning.

So how could they

night Pence when nobody knew what he was going to do?

Right.

So we started looking into, because my initial question was, how was that gallows allowed to stay up on Capitol property all day long and even into the evening?

You know, you can't put up a little stand on the Capitol property without a permit.

It's immediately taken down.

How would the Capitol Police allow that to stay up or the park police, whoever, a gallows?

How was it allowed to stay up all day?

So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation the FBI did into it.

So we looked at our videos,

the Capitol surveillance videos, and we could see.

where the people carrying the gallows came from.

They had a hand truck full of lumber pulling it up.

I think it was up Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenue.

So I put a team on this and they started looking.

I said, all right, let's go to every government building along the street and ask them two questions.

One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do?

Do they still have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten?

And the third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video?

And the answer for every one of them was no.

Jeez.

The FBI spent no time looking into who erected the gallows.

Wow.

That's absolutely shocking.

It's a clear picture of one of them.

So, yeah,

there was a total,

there was a lot of effort put into convictions, but it was only on one side.

It was on one side.

Congressman Loudermilk, it's Liz Wheeler.

I'm sitting in today for Stu here at Blaze HQ in Dallas.

Question for you.

According to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers.

Do you know not just that Liz Cheney and her January 6th committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data, but do you know the identity of the pipe bombers?

We don't know the identity, but this is being done in coordination with the Judiciary Committee chaired by Jim Jordan.

And so we've done our part of the report.

They're working on their report.

their part.

I expect it to be released sometime next week.

I know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming, but we want to make sure that we get it right.

And so we're compiling all the information they have and we have.

And

we're not going to identify who it is because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of potentially

where they came from.

I mean, we were able to track their vehicle

that they were in that the FBI never went

and tried to

look for.

Congressman, let me ask you this.

Let's go back to Liz Cheney here because

you say she should be investigated and possibly tried.

I hope if these things are true,

I hope every damn one of these people, no matter which side they're on, are put in jail.

Have you found enough to have

a reasonable

grand jury say, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be a trial.

And can you get it out of Washington, D.C., which will never be a fair trial?

Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch.

And I've said all along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the current Department of Justice.

No.

We have a new Department of Justice coming in.

Yes.

So we are,

this is one of the reasons we're making this referral.

Let me just real quickly lay the basis of why I'm saying Liz Chaney should be investigated because

Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness, came in and testified before the select committee twice under oath.

The third time, she started changing her first two testimonies, and then the fourth time she totally came out with all kind of crazy stories, right?

This is about Trump attacking Secret Service officers, throwing food and chanting that Mike Pence should be hung.

Okay.

She significantly changed her testimony to the point where she would have committed perjury either before or after.

What changed?

What changed?

It was between her first two and the next two that she started communicating directly with Liz Cheney.

This is,

and Liz even said this is unethical.

So let's just use Liz Cheney's own standards.

All right.

In July of 2022, Liz Cheney, and we have the video of her doing this in a committee,

referred Donald Trump to the Department of Justice to be investigated for witness tampering because

he said Trump tried to contact a witness.

He wasn't successful.

He only tried to contact a witness.

So they assumed it was witness tampering and they referred him to the Department of Justice.

Now let's compare what

her standards to what she did.

Cheney did communicate with a witness, didn't just try, did, and even acknowledge that it was at least unethical to do so.

Oh, my God.

who after their communication did change their testimony.

And according to Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney, and that Liz Cheney did help her find a new one.

And then Liz Cheney did try to have Stefan Pasentino, who was her first attorney, try to get him disbarred and basically tried to ruin his life.

So now just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness, he should be investigated versus what she actually did.

And we have it documented that she did these things.

This is why we're recommending the Department of Justice investigate her for witness tampering.

It's not tit for tat.

I'm just saying if she laid the standards that just trying to make a phone call is witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.

If, honestly, I said this during the Trump

impeachment hearings when they filed those.

I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth.

The same thing with COVID.

I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, six or eight months into it.

We did an honest investigation and I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may.

Just seek the truth.

And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to jail.

Either side, if you were at January 6th and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing through the windows, you know, and,

you know, hitting police officers, etc., yeah, probably you should go to jail.

You should have a fair trial, but you should go to jail.

But not the innocent.

And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty look innocent should also go to jail.

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Quentin Schultz is with us.

He's Calvin University Professor of Communications.

I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally, well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication.

But this guy we're having on, he is

not only emeritus professor of communications, he's teached, he taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller ever on radio.

Welcome, Quentin.

How are you?

Wow.

Thanks so much, Clem.

You know, that was the thing.

I was a new professor of communication, and generally professor with a PhD means piled piled higher and deeper.

So in this case, I thought, you know, storytelling is the most potent form of human expression, no question about it.

And I thought, who out there is the best storyteller that I could learn from firsthand?

Because that's the way you really learn.

I looked at the textbooks and I'll forget it.

And I had known of Gene Shepard.

We shared a hobby called ham radio.

I listened to him on WR radio for years.

And so I looked up his call letters and his home address through the FCC directory and I said dear mr.

Shepard I'm a wet behind the ears communication professor and I want to learn storytelling would you teach me and lo and behold he wrote back he couldn't believe that a professor was actually going to him you know most professors are not humble enough to ask other people for advice yeah yeah yeah yeah so he said yeah let's do it so we began corresponding and all and then I invited him to teach with me and as far as I know, except for the director of A Christmas Story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing, how he told stories, and what he was doing in the movie A Christmas Story.

He wrote the script for it.

And let me just tell you, Glenn, what he taught me absolutely blew my mind.

It revolutionized my teaching.

It revolutionized my relationships with people to be able to tell stories really well.

And

it was stunning.

And the number one thing I learned from him is that every one of his stories is a parable, a parable.

In other words, it works on two levels.

There's the entertainment level, and you say, That's a funny story.

Look at that guy with his leg lamp there.

Ho, ho, ho, you know.

But then

I'm talking to Gene, and I said, Gene, what about that leg lamp thing, man?

What about it?

I just don't quite get that one.

It's a parable?

Come on.

What are you talking about, man?

He says, Quinn,

that leg lamp is a trophy wife.

I said, what?

He said, yeah, it's a trophy wife.

The old man falls in love with, becomes obsessed with that leg lamp that he pulls out of the carton that arrives.

And right away, he's smitten by it.

He's in love.

And he said he wants to go put it in the front window.

For what reason?

To turn on the neighborhood.

And so Gene explained to me that in his worldview, guys are incurably romantic toward women or, secondarily, other things.

Could be cars, could be rifles, could be other technology.

And they fall in love.

And they get so smitten by these other things that it interferes with their relationships.

So mom knew when she saw what was going on with the old man in that leg lamp, that she was going to have to do something.

She was going to have to get this, Glenn, end the affair by breaking the lamp, which she did.

So the whole movie, A Christmas Story, is filled with these parables.

And that one is number two in my book of 20 parables, which is called Curtail Your Obsessions.

And it applies especially to men.

Unbelievable.

You're so good, Professor.

This is Liz Wheeler.

I'm sitting in for Stu today.

When we were talking about having you on right before the program, I was like, oh, he styles himself as a storyteller.

Please, I'm waiting to be impressed.

I was engrossed in your story.

Tell me, so that's number two on the list.

What's number one?

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I love when there's hidden messages and parables and Easter eggs and stories.

What are some other ones?

Yeah,

one of my favorites is what I call tackle your technology.

Now, Gene Shepard believed that human beings, particularly men, create technologies, but they can never fully control what they create.

So the technologies always get out of hand and things happen that were unexpected and they break down.

And, you know, he and I shared this hobby, ham radio, so we would talk about our rigs, as we call them, going bad.

But he's got this wonderful thing in the movie with the furnace downstairs.

So the old man is sitting there, you know, enjoying at the kitchen table where the family really happens, their relationships happen at that table.

And he's listening, listening, listening.

All of a sudden, he hears clink, clink, clink, and he yells, clinker,

and he takes off, puts his gloves on down the stairs to try to fix that furnace.

Now, clinkers were pieces of coal that would not burn fully, and they were still hard, and they would fall to the bottom of the furnace and go clink, clink, clink, and they were really frustrating.

And so he periodically has to go down there

to try to fix the furnace.

And I'm talking to Gene Shepard, the screenwriter of a Christmas story about this.

He says to me, Quinn, that's my nickname, Quinn, he says, you know that the old man runs down the stairs because he's headed toward hell.

I said, what?

He said, yeah, he's going down to the seventh level of Dante's inferno, where with all the soot and all the heat and smoke and everything else, he is going to stare face to face with that demon of a furnace.

And he is not going to win the battle.

He said to me, that's the way all technologies are.

Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought and we get into trouble.

And the more I thought about that, I thought, man, he's brilliant.

Another part of that in the movie is the car.

The old man has this 1937 Oles touring sedan.

And that sucker would freeze up at the equator in the middle of the summer, he says.

So he's always running outside.

in the middle of winter to pour hot water on it to try to get it going.

And of course, he has problems with plugging in the Christmas tree and plugging in the leg lamp.

He's blowing fuses all the time, although he could replace those fuses faster than a jackrabbit on a date.

That's another story.

And so

my favorite life lesson from the movie A Christmas Story really is

it comes to the fore at the end.

And Bob Clark was such a great director.

And so there are two scenes at the end, these scenes of reconciliation and peace.

One is where the old man and mom are together at the end of the day on Christmas.

Mom turns the light off and the two of them sit down together

and they're touching each other.

They're reconciling.

I mean, they've been battling over the leg lamp, really, the affair that's going on there.

And so they're reconciling and they're looking out through the window, which is the same window that the leg lamp was in.

And you see the snow falling down.

By the way, that wasn't really snow.

Those were potato flakes being thrown from the roof because

there was no snow.

But what's interesting about this also is that Gene pulled on a lot of biblical themes

and the leg lamp gets placed among the plants because Gene said to me that those plants are mom's Garden of Eden.

that she waters and likes to keep going and keep them green and vibrant.

So when the old man takes this tawdry, ugly, humanly concocted leg lamp and puts it right in the middle of the Garden of Eden, and of course, the leg lamp itself represents sin in a way because it's an affair obsession he has, she knows he has to break it.

So, when they're on the sofa together, looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside without the leg lamp there.

And

you can give thanks that they have reconciled.

It's just so wonderful.

Wow.

Anything behind the shoot your eye out?

Oh, yeah.

In fact,

I titled my book, You'll Shoot Your Eye Out, because it's the most searched term related to the movie A Christmas Story.

Of course,

Ralph, he's trying to get the rifle.

He goes to his mom.

That's not going to work.

He goes to Ms.

Shields' teacher, and she writes on his theme, but yes, you'll shoot your eye out.

Then he goes to Santa and gets into trouble with Santa at the top of the mountain.

By the way, that mountain that he climbs up to to pitch Santa, his last resort.

Remember, it's his last resort.

That mountain Gene said to me, is like going up to petition God.

Or on Christmas, you get a lot of kids, and they believe that they can somehow petition Santa and get what they want.

And Ralph, he doesn't really believe it, but he's going to give it a try.

And so he's going to go up there, and then, of course, he gets kind of pushed with Santa's black boot down

the slide, which they got from a

swimming pool company.

And Santa says, you'll shoot your eye out, kid.

So Gene said to me repeatedly that if there's one big lesson in life to really be careful about, it's our lack of humility as human beings.

We do things that cause trouble for ourselves, like we would say, you know, you put your foot in your mouth.

And so he used that term, you'll shoot your eye out, as a way of getting at this.

We have to be more humble and be careful and watch out for what we do in life.

So it really, that runs throughout the movie in many ways.

Man, you should do a commentary on

the movie.

I'd love to watch the movie with you doing comic.

Maybe you could just come to my house for Christmas as we watch it.

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Yeah, what's interesting is that I had all these notes and all from teaching with Gene.

He died in 99, and I thought maybe someday I'd write a book about storytelling and him.

And the movie, when it came out in 83,

did not really do well.

And so I thought, well, why write a book if the movie is not going to do well?

And every year it sells more and more copies and

more people see it.

40 to 50 million in the U.S.

alone see it every year.

And so finally my wife said to me last year,

Stop just talking about it and entertaining people at dinner.

You've got to write the book.

So that's what I did, Glenn.

Wow, boy, she must be tired of this story because I know my wife's tired of all my stories.

Oh, yeah.

The name of the book

is

You'll Shoot Your Eye Out.

You're Shoot Your Eye Out.

It's not just the parables behind that, it's mainly that, but also he goes into storytelling.

And as you can tell, he's a very good storyteller.

But he learned from, I think, the best, Gene Shepard.

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Let me go back to

Donald Trump and really you, X,

you, talk radio, and Donald Trump and J.D.

Vance are the ones that killed this horrible bill in Congress yesterday.

And I haven't heard an official, it's dead, but everybody that I've talked to say, oh, it's not coming back.

And Donald Trump said, I want a clean, continuing resolution.

I don't want any, there's no

ornaments on this tree, none.

Pass this and just keep the government functioning, nothing else.

That's exactly what they should have done the first time.

There is a great article at Glenbeck.com, The Deep State's New Plan to Backstab Donald Trump.

If you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year, because there's this attitude right now, and I don't know if you've sensed this, Liz Wheeler,

but there is this attitude that, oh,

Trump's elected.

And that's exactly what we did in 2016.

And you saw what we got four years later.

Now

we brought this change,

and we're here, and people are thinking it's fixed.

I talked to

Lear Capital and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in

emergency

and things like, hey, back up your money.

And they said on election day, they can see phone calls, phone calls, phone calls, election, nothing.

And that's what happened in 2016.

And I have to tell you, please don't do this again.

There is so much to clear, and we're only at the beginning.

That wasn't the end.

It feels peaceful now, but believe me, political war is going to be turned up to 11.

So please don't rest on your laurels and think everything is okay.

It's good.

We can be positive, but let's not deceive ourselves.

Do you agree with that, Liz?

I think we are very different.

than we were four years ago.

Trump, or eight years ago, I should say.

Trump is very different in the sense that he understands how the deep state operates.

You can see this in the way that he speaks.

You can see this in the policies that he's presenting.

You can see this in who he's surrounding himself with advisors and cabinet nominations.

But we are very different too, because complacency can be our worst enemy.

It certainly, I would argue, has been in the last 50, 60 years.

This is not a recent thing.

But yesterday should prove that we know what we're doing this time differently than the last time too.

We understand that we have a role not just in casting our ballots, not just in the lead up to an election, making an argument for a candidate, but being an intricate part of every minute detail of a transition and administration.

And I've never seen this.

Maybe you have seen this.

I have never seen this before to this level in my entire political life.

And I don't think people are planning on stopping that.

Yesterday was an example of us doing it better.

I saw it in 1980 because we were in a similar situation, but not not as bad as we are now with Jimmy Carter.

And so I saw it back then, and it lasted for a while.

It lasted in probably until, oh, maybe 90.

It lasted a decade.

If we can get a decade out of this, that would be great.

We need 12 years to be able to really make an impact.

And we need 12 years of the Republicans.

in the House and the Senate.

If you don't get that, it's going to be a lot harder to do this.

We have have to reverse everything.

And, you know, there's two stories in the

Washington Examiner, both of which I enjoyed and think are something you should read.

That's why we put them in our morning newsletter at GlennBeck.com, which is free, by the way.

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The Washington Examiner has two stories in, and I agree with both, but

I want to...

I want to caveat on these.

First, the first story is really great.

It's about wiping the smile off of Barack Obama's face.

And it ends, in 2016, the then-president Barack Obama mocked in a tweet in which Trump called him perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States in 2016.

That's what President Trump said.

Obama said, at least I will go down as a president and then had the little mic drop, you know?

Okay, all right.

Well.

He did too.

In fact, he's going down as one of the only presidents who have ever lost a second term and then won it because you, because let's be honest, Barack,

this is your administration.

This was you.

This wasn't Joe Biden.

This was you and your people and all the people you trust to transform the United States of America.

And finally,

you have been defeated.

So I, you know, gosh, I.

I hate to point it out, but you are going to start losing

your image.

And you already have.

People are starting to go, wait a minute, I don't think Barack Obama was who I thought he was.

Then there's another story in Washington Examiner that you need to read, A Conservative Comeback in the Culture War.

And it is so satisfying and I think so true.

It says over the preceding 21 months, this is talking about how,

you know, the culture had completely changed.

And Joy Reed came out on MSNBC and she said, you know, the John Wayne era is over.

The right literally can't win.

Cultural progression is relentless.

Once people get a taste of modernity, they almost never go back willingly.

Okay, so

she had a right to be hubris at that point

because they were wiping the floor with us.

Honestly, in October, gang, let's all remember, we thought the country could be over.

We didn't know who our neighbors even were.

And we said to each other at that time, if this country votes for

more of this, then they don't understand liberty and the Constitution.

They don't want it anymore.

Well, they didn't.

And I think part of that is because God came to the rescue.

and did the things that we couldn't do.

But we did do the things that we could do, and that that is get out and vote.

But he held the, quite honestly, the judgment back from us so we could go out and vote.

Now God has done his part.

We know he's not neutral in this.

He's done his part by saving Donald Trump from assassination.

We went out and vote.

Now God's saying, okay, so what are you going to do with it?

And if we piss it away and think that Donald Trump,

God bless him, I think he's amazing.

He is not the same man.

He's going, he has the possibility.

And

I used to hate when people said this about anybody.

Oh, he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln.

I'm telling you, he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln, but only if we do our part.

And the thing about that article in The Examiner is:

please

let's not get cocky.

Come on, Luke.

Don't get cocky, kid.

Don't do it.

Leads to bad things.

Liz?

It reminds me, I feel like we're in one of those Dr.

Franklin moments where he says, madam, a republic if you can keep it.

Yes.

It's this moment where we have this great celebration because something...

tremendous and extraordinary just happened.

We have just freed ourselves from the oppressors.

And we should take a moment and and say, wow,

we should bask in the enormity of that moment, but also we should understand

that

like a marriage not being the end of a courtship, it is the beginning of an adventure.

That is where we are in this cultural battle too.

The work and the adventure are now beginning.

Remember,

it was common sense that brought us to the Declaration of Independence, literally and figuratively.

Thomas Paine brings us to the Declaration of Independence.

And everybody was a Sunshine Patriot.

Everybody was on board.

They were so excited.

By Christmas, after that happened in July of the same year,

by Christmas, the whole thing seemed to be over.

Everybody had lost hope, and he wrote the American Crisis.

Sunshine Patriots, yeah, you're of no use.

We're the winter soldiers.

So we're right now at that first part, common sense.

We did it.

Yeah, common sense wins.

But it's going to get tough, and we're going to need the winter soldiers.

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