Ep 238 | Zachary Levi Gets Real About Suicide, God & Being a Dad | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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My next guest has taken on so many roles as a highly successful actor, but today we're going to talk about his most vulnerable role.

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He recently did what most in Hollywood think is impossible.

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He defied the norms, made an edgy counterculture choice of loving God, building a family, voting as a Republican.

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Welcome.

A man who you may know as Shazam or from Chuck or Tangled, She Loves Me, American Underdog, and many other incredible shows and movies it would take me all day to list.

Actor, author, and all-around good guy, Zachary Levi.

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I was thinking the other day that somebody asked me, Glenn, who is it that you want to talk to that you haven't had access to because of your political stance or whatever?

And, you know, like Hollywood people.

And

that list used to be very long.

And I went,

Denzel Washington,

Chris Pratt,

Zach Levi.

There might have been two others, but I don't even know who they were.

I mean, I had to think for a long time.

And I don't know if that's true.

Those are just the people that seem into, like they have something to say, interesting that's not necessarily about politics.

Sure.

And

when I read anything on social media about you,

the number of people who say, you saved my life, your book saved my life, your experience saved my life.

That's what I want to talk about.

Well, first of all,

thank you for having me.

Also,

that's a really wonderful list to be on with two incredible human beings.

I don't know Denzel personally, but I am a massive fan of his and

how he's carried himself throughout his life and his career.

And I agree.

I think that man is so deep and so full of wisdom and

has been so consistent in being able to bring that forth, you know, through his various interviews and stuff.

Like just really, really and just not

just being wise.

Yeah.

Just being wise.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And fair and all of that.

And, but I think that kind of comes with wisdom.

And listen, I know Chris.

We've, we've been, you know, friends for many years.

I rarely ever see him.

He's very, very busy, and I've been blessed as well to be busy.

But I can attest that he is a really incredible human being and genuinely cares, genuinely cares about his family, his friends, every cast that he is the lead of, every crew that he is, you know, number one leading.

So

very grateful to be on a list with those two gentlemen and whoever else might have been on that list before.

And, you know, listen,

I do think

I also see a lot of these messages.

I mean, you know, social media is very funny because, as you know,

you get,

I mean, particularly since I've come out and been more vocal about my stance on various things politically and otherwise.

Yeah.

You know, that comes with a lot of vitriol.

It comes with a lot of hate and darkness and toxicity,

which is such a bummer because I really love all of those people too.

You know, like I really do believe that we are called to love every single soul, that we are all children of God, even the people that are acting like complete imbeciles or hatefully or whatever, right?

Who hate and want to destroy you?

They're still my brother.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, yeah, and I've said this before, but I, you know, but I, you know, begs repeating, I think, often it's like, you know, when Jesus was talking about, you know, what is it to love those who love you?

Well, that's not really love.

That's easy, right?

But we're being called to love our enemy, pray for our persecutor.

I take that very seriously.

And so even these people who want to destroy me, and they very much, if given the chance, they might very much do that, right?

I think a lot of people, they puff themselves up online because it's a lot of anonymity.

And of course, they want to say all these various things.

But nonetheless, a lot of that toxicity is, thank God, overwhelmed by a lot of the love and the support and the prayers and the testimony of people that do say things and share with me.

Your book saved my life.

Your testimony has helped me to live a bolder, you know, even just coming up politically, there have been a lot of messages of people saying, I was so on the fence, I was so afraid I didn't want to speak.

my truth into the world.

And because you, with everything to lose, were willing to go and do that, I felt emboldened to be able to go and do that.

And so, yeah, it feels great, man.

It feels, but more than anything, it's because it feels like I feel like I'm being used by God.

Right.

And that if we can always just be in that pocket, wherever God wants us, doing whatever God wants us to do, speaking whatever truth and wisdom and love and light into this world as we can, like when you feel that, you know, it's like, oh, I don't even want to not be.

And I know.

Yeah.

And

it's weird.

I'm a recovering alcoholic.

Insanity runs through my family like a pack of wild elephants.

I can relate.

Lots of suicide in my family, et cetera, et cetera.

And just crashed in the 90s, just

lost everything, lost my family, lost.

I couldn't look a person in the eye that would actually believe me because I was an alcoholic.

I had lied to him about everything important for a long time.

And

in trying to destroy my career at that same time,

I admitted all of this stuff on the air.

And And I turned my mic off and I said to my producer, who's still my producer, mark this down your calendar.

This is the day Glenn Beck

destroyed his career.

The opposite happened because, and it is so amazing, God

will take

the worst of you.

And all of a sudden, if you're willing to just say,

I was this, I had the darkest whatever it is

everybody's hiding a piece of that in themselves and they all feel alone yeah you know oh absolutely so when when you come out you know is this around the time of shazam isn't it uh

when

you were really crashing oh yeah well yeah no no i mean literally right before i booked that job i

uh i moved out to austin seven years ago uh with with a head full esteem and dreams and this vision that God put on my heart 25 years ago.

It was, I guess, you know,

25 minus seven.

So, you know, dude math, I don't know, 18 years ago at that point, but

to buy a bunch of land, to build basically a new United Artist type of movie studio that's also a living community kind of resort situation because,

you know, I just, having worked in the industry for all those years, I it was also so broken.

It's so broken.

You know what?

I mean, it's just so, so broken.

It's so inhumane and and it's not about making excellent anything it's just commoditizing art and artists and squeezing every cent out of every single one of the creators and it's just a broken system and so i really felt like god was like you're gonna we gotta go make god is going to make a better hollywood and i get to be a part of doing whatever that is right and i just felt this and i still feel it i'm still convicted to do it i'm still working on it but um

but i moved out to to Austin.

I sold my house in LA, like, just like,

I'm done.

This is it.

We got to go.

Not realizing how much of myself I was running away from, not realizing I was a very unhappy person at that time.

I hadn't accessed that yet.

I hadn't understood it yet.

So, you know, then you make big brash decisions.

I go and I buy the 75 acres out in a city that I'm not from, that I barely know anyone in.

I'm totally alone and I have a complete mental breakdown.

Because you're left with your thoughts and yourself?

Well, and also, I didn't know at the time, but I had been on an Adderall prescription and I was a pack a day smoker, by the way.

Oh, wow.

So

I didn't understand really only in the last few years have people like Andrew Huberman and others really broken down like how hormones really kind of work in our bodies, specifically dopamine.

What I didn't realize at the time was, so I moved out to Austin and I was like, you know, new me, new life.

I don't want my Adderall prescription anymore.

I'm going to quit drinking.

I'm going to quit smoking a pack a day.

And I didn't realize, I had no idea that I was about to fall into a dopamine spiral, death spiral.

And so that, coupled with all of my deep, unhealed traumas throughout my life that I had never really done any work on because I didn't understand how.

But wait, wait.

My mom committed suicide when I was, you know, 14 years old, whatever.

And I said, up until I was 30, 35, I'm fine.

Yeah.

I'm fine.

And I actually thought I was.

Yeah.

So did you just didn't know how to work on it?

it or did you think oh i don't have to no no no

i didn't know how to work on it because i didn't even know that i had to work on it right okay exactly yeah that's where i know i was completely i think most people

i think most people are still struggling with not even really recognizing everything that's there yes

Once you do, it's almost impossible to not have to start working on it because it's glare.

It's right in your face.

It's terrifying.

It is terrifying.

Because you think.

Once you start start thinking about all this stuff, you're like, I don't know that there's anything good in there.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That's all I know is this.

Yeah.

And you are afraid.

I was afraid.

Well, so I had this breakdown.

Again, didn't understand at all really what was going on.

I just was in a complete darkness, didn't want to live, didn't know why.

Thank God.

Suicidal.

Suicidal.

Oh, and that wasn't the first time in my life.

I had had other stretches of time where I had absolutely considered.

I always tell people, like, if suicide is a 10-rung ladder and the last rung is where you actually do it, I got up to rung nine

a few times in my life, you know.

And, and it's scary.

And thank God I had just, just enough other things in my life to not do that.

In this particular instance, my nephew, first nephew had just been born.

He was about a year old.

And I kept thinking, if I kill myself, My younger sister will never recover, who is the mother of this child.

And who is,

you you know I'm very close to both of my sisters but my younger sister I think you know she was my assistant for many years we we were always kind of you know a little bit of Bobsy twins but

I knew that my younger sister and my older sister they would never recover and that child's life would be forever altered in such a horrible way yes and then I would be

I would then be passing on this generational trauma in a completely different way, but very similar way.

And he would be so negatively affected.

And that was really the only thing that was keeping me from killing myself.

Fortunately, my younger sister and my older sister and my family and friends that loved me and believed in me surrounded me just enough.

And my younger sister found this really incredible life-saving therapy that I went to.

It was like three weeks in Connecticut where I was just

doing so many different modalities of therapy.

And it was really

a life-changing, life-saving experience.

But one of the biggest things I learned in all of that was that I didn't love myself.

I had never even really understood what the concept of self-love was.

I think that for years, you know, people talk about, oh, do you love yourself?

And again, like you thought, I thought, you know, it's like, yeah,

yeah, I'm good.

You know, I go out, I play ball with my friends, I do this, I do that.

And it's also,

it's also seemingly a little like, I'm not that self-centered.

Yeah.

What do you do?

Yeah, yeah.

Love myself.

Get over it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And that is a,

unfortunately, I think that's part of the problem in

helping people to understand self-love, which is

there's a stark difference between narcissism and loving yourself.

Narcissism, what's that?

To give it to me.

Well, I mean, essentially, and I know that you know this, but narcissism

is thinking that literally the world revolves around you, that everyone should be doing essentially what you think they should be doing.

And if they're not doing it that way, then they're fucking idiots or whatever.

And you have every license to operate however you want, to manipulate anybody that you need to in order to get what you need because it's a dog-eat-dog world, whatever.

And yeah, this is it.

And

narcissists are very good at rationalizing all of that as loving themselves.

Whereas self-love is to, I believe, you know, boiling it down as best we can, it's recognizing that.

No matter what you do, no matter where you're from or where you're going or anything in between, you are a beloved child of God.

You are an extension of God and God's love, and therefore you are worthy of that love.

And

then it's a matter of really trying to impress that upon yourself because the darkness is full of the lies that want to contradict that and say, no, no, you did this and you did that and da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

And you're like, oh, and not realizing, by the way, that most all of our self-talk

until we heal it,

a lot of us, you know, we grew up in

with childhoods and homes that were not the best they were abusive they were psychologically abusive physically

I think there's some family I mean I don't know there's great families but I think there's some families like I always thought even though my mom killed herself she was an alcoholic my dad was you know it was a problem

I still thought it was okay you know and I think there are some people that live in but you they're

People don't understand

the power of words.

Yeah.

You know, as a father, I've said things to my daughters where they're going to run out of the room crying and I'll be like, what the hell did I just say?

You know, you know what I mean?

Because I'm just inept with girls.

But

well, clearly not if you've actually had two of them.

Three.

Three of them.

And two wives.

So, you know, well, there you go.

Anyway,

you don't realize

the marks that are left on people.

And you also don't realize how sometimes things that you said were interpreted because of where they are.

Sure.

And so they carry that around forever.

Yeah.

And our parents, and this is one of the other big things I had to really come to the conclusion of or really the revelation of, which was that,

well, actually, hold on, go back.

The self-talk that is constantly convicting us and lying to us and telling us we're worthless and horrible and a piece of shit and all that stuff, that is directly linked to the voices of our parents and the ways that they would reprimand us and the ways that they would chastise us and the ways they would would critique us.

If you grow up in a really loving family that's full of encouragement and not judgment, your self-talk growing up is exponentially better just from the jump, right?

You can still have bad self-talk based in your own kind of thoughts, based on what you do, but at least you have a great kind of starting spot.

Exactly.

But a lot of us never had that.

I would actually venture to say, unfortunately, most of us didn't have that, right?

But

Coming to the realization

that

that also doesn't make our parents the bad guy because they were doing the best they could at the time with the tools that they had, right?

Yes.

And so that was one of the other big revelations I got in this therapy because

I didn't actively sit around, you know, in the same way, I didn't actively sit around thinking ill of myself.

Yeah.

I was fine.

I was fine.

I didn't actively sit around thinking ill of my mother or my stepfather or my dad or any of those people that had a part to play in the various kinds of, you know, whatever traumas that I've experienced.

So I didn't think that I had this unresolved anger or hate with my mother.

And boy, was I wrong.

It was all just kind of suppressed and whatever, because I was still holding on to this idea that she should have known better.

She is this person that abused me and did a lot, by the way.

And she was also an alcoholic.

Psychologically.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it went having these therapists telling me like, Zach, you know,

you need to lighten up on yourself.

Like you beat the shit out of yourself.

Like, listen to the way you talk to yourself.

Would you talk to anybody else that way that you loved?

And I was like, like, no.

And they go, then why do you talk to yourself that way?

And that was a massive deal.

And then, so, so they're like, so you got to, you got to forgive yourself.

You have to recognize that you were doing the best that you could at any given moment in your life, right?

Which it is.

It's so hard, but it's so true.

Yes.

And it's the beginning of this process.

But one of the things that just hit me like a ton of bricks was,

well, in the algebra of it,

if it's true that I myself am worthy of forgiving myself because I was doing the best that I could.

That means everyone is worthy of that forgiveness because everyone is doing the best that they could.

And that destroyed me in the best of ways because I wept for my mom.

I wept this woman who I just saw her as her five-year-old self and the trauma that she experienced as a young girl.

She could have gone off to be so many different versions of herself.

But because of the programming and the environment and all of that, she ended up being the woman that she was.

And I have to forgive her for that because that's not her fault.

In the same way, that, by the way, you know, using an extreme, because I think extremes are

good for kind of

explaining points, but any one of us could agree that someone who straps bombs to their chest and goes into a market and kills innocent women and children and people, like that's a horrendous, villainous, monstrous act, right?

But that person,

by and large, these people that do that, they think they're doing the holiest of things.

They're not twisting their mustache.

I have often thought, because I've seen the propaganda that is pumped from the very beginning with Hamas, with the kids, where, I mean, for little kids, just this poison.

And I've often thought,

if I grew up that way,

would I have been different?

There's this great, I got one of the guys who

was in

Vietnam and he was in the Hanoi Hilton.

His wife gave me all of his notes and everything from that time to preserve.

And he writes about forgiveness.

Okay.

They're pulling his arms out of his sockets every day for like seven years.

And he's writing, Don't hate the person.

You don't know if you were in their shoes and you had their life.

And I'm thinking,

this guy is a giant.

That's who I want to be when I grow up, you know?

Yeah.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

And there's a lot of

really powerful examples of that.

I did a film called The Mauritanian, and it was a true story about this guy who was

ultimately, you know,

cleared of this accusation, but that he was involved in the 9-11 thing.

And they put him in Guantanamo, and they tortured him, and they did all the things that they did to him.

And he, in all of that, found forgiveness for those American soldiers that were, again,

caught up in this culture that they were fed of, like, these are the villains, and these are the monsters, and these are the bad guys, and we got to humiliate them, and we got to do this, that, and the other thing.

Look what they did.

And he found forgiveness.

Another great example,

what's his name?

Louie,

Louie.

There was a movie called Not Unbreakable.

Yeah,

yeah yeah true story yeah gets I mean that guy's story is insane that he got lost at sea that he that he survived that long and then gets picked up by the Japanese and then he's put into one of their internment camps and tortured and all of these things and for him to find the forgiveness in his heart transformed by God obviously

Like it's it's so powerful, but it's something that we have to remember.

It's so easy for us to want to froth at the mouth to go get justice.

We want justice and we want to go get these people.

But we have, if we're willing to at least take a moment and just look at someone and see the five-year-old in them that had all the promise to go anywhere in the world, but they then they had those parents and that community and that society and whatever it was that they were raised in, which then guided them into those decision-making, into that decision making.

That's where the beginnings of grace and mercy and forgiveness and empathy, you know.

So I can guarantee you that there is somebody watching right now and going, you too.

Oh, Oh, you're so soft.

You'll just let.

And I've been struggling with blessed are the peacemakers because I've been saying

when we were really, you know, we were at each other's throats.

And I hope that we can get past all this and we've turned a page a bit.

But

I had people call me and say,

no.

No,

stand up.

And I said, wait a minute.

Being a peacemaker doesn't, being a peacemaker means you're standing up peacefully, but you're going to say things that are true and stand for the truth.

You,

there's no peace in your life.

Martin Luther King was a peacemaker.

There was no peace in his life.

Abraham Lincoln, no peace in his life.

So it's not weak.

It doesn't mean...

It doesn't mean that you.

You see the five-year-old and go, well, then

they murdered that person.

No.

No.

No.

No, I think is on, this is one of the unfortunate kind of,

and it's not a paradox, but I think people find it to be, and they have a hard time wrapping their head around it.

You can both

have mercy and understanding with

the bad doer

and still hold them entirely accountable for everything that they have done and are directed.

Direct.

And we ought to.

Yes.

I don't think that just because somebody murders someone and or if someone murders someone and we look in their past and we see that they were abused sexually physically you know they somebody put a gun in their hand as a gang member at 13 and forced them to kill somebody like who knows all the ways that people are twisted in these ways none none of that absolves them from their most recent murder it doesn't ex uh uh you know um excuse it.

It just explains it.

And we ought to be willing to go down the route of explanation so that we can have that mercy and still hold them accountable.

Because I will say that that when we just look at murderers as nothing but monsters, then we put them in a penal system that is only making them more monstrous, as opposed to one that holds them accountable, incarcerates them, whatever it needs to do.

And it doesn't mean like give them a resort.

I'm not saying any of that.

But there's ways to do it where you're actually rehabilitating them.

It's why we love.

It's why we don't, in our justice system, have the victim pronounce the sentence.

You know what I mean?

We know what, I mean, we look at people whose family have been horribly abused and killed and whatever,

and we're, we always look, I think the Amish have it down, you know?

They have it down in a lot of ways.

In a lot of ways.

But,

you know, they can forgive a murderer of their children and go comfort his wife within hours.

children's bodies are still in the school.

Oh my gosh.

That's who we should strive to be.

But that's a tall order.

We're a long way from that, but it's a good,

it's kind of like the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these things to be self-we've never been that country, but we've had flashes of it and we're constantly trying.

And that is such a huge

motto or

mission statement that, you know, we may never get there, but we should

strive and getting closer all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Listen, I mean,

there's so many

confounding factors in all of this.

I do believe that the legacy media has played such a nefarious part in dividing us in

pumping out rhetoric that is

not just divisive, but very toxic.

And so, and by the way, on both sides, too.

I mean, I don't think that

it's just exclusively on one side or the other, but that has created this,

there's the good guys and the bad guys.

And so it's not just right, you know, it's not just okay, but it's good to hate those people.

It's good to hate Orange Man.

He's Hitler, and therefore everyone who supports him must be a Nazi.

Like, this is crazy talk, right?

It's super crazy talk.

And

that's the kind of stuff that we're having to fight against.

To me,

trying to just explain to people or having conversations like this where we're talking about fundamentals

is the only way that we're going to ultimately get there.

And again,

so much of it is tied into mental health.

I think Jesus was so,

you know, tapped into understanding these concepts, obviously, because he's like, well, okay, you want to,

ye who is without sin, throw the first, cast the first stone.

Like, that's a real Uno reverse card.

That's like, yeah, go for it.

But yeah, have you everything, you know?

And it really gave people this check in their spirit, one of many things that he talked about.

But I will say, though, that I think part of it is also trying to help people redefine or find a better definition for certain terms that they don't.

That I think are a little confusing sometimes.

Love is one of those words.

When I talk about like, I love everybody and I believe that that we're all called to love everyone

Most people go like that's bullshit like you can't do that You don't like everybody and it's like no no, you're right.

I don't like everybody, but love and like are not the same thing exactly right like love is not graduated uh exponential love or love exponential like right um

and one of the best definitions i've ever heard

Thomas Aquinas, but I think it goes all the way back to like Aristotle or whatever, or something like that, but to love is to will the good of the other,

which means you don't have to like them.

You don't have to ever spend time with them.

You can actually have lots of firm boundaries with whomever this person is, but you still want the best for their life.

This murderer, you want them to be redeemed.

You want them to see the light.

You want them to come to their knees and beg the forgiveness of the family that they have hurt, not sit in court all smug and laughing at that, right?

That's the version of them that we want to hate.

But if we can get through through that, the only way to get through that is to see them as that child, that five-year-old child of God that was screwed up and not absolve them of their crime, not say somehow, well,

yeah,

they had a bad life, so it's okay.

No, it's not okay.

That act is not okay.

But it is very well in our best interest and theirs to want to will their good, to want them to find the light, you know?

I think it's,

I've been talking about this

lately because I've struggled to describe exactly what you did so eloquently.

Um,

just as a dad,

I've been thinking, you know, how we're just separating each other.

And, well, screw them.

If

I'm waiting at home for all my children to come home

and three of them come and they say, and I say,

Where's your brother?

He was just too unreasonable.

We didn't even even try.

We didn't, he, we, we, we hate him.

We hate him.

As a father, I would say, well, wait, wait, wait.

You just left him behind.

You didn't talk to him.

You didn't try to love him enough to be, to help turn his life around, turn his mind around.

You just abandoned him.

I would be furious with my three kids.

And I don't think that's going to be different on the other side.

When we go home to God,

I don't think we're going to be able to say, yeah, but they were all Nazis.

Yeah, they were voting different than me.

Yeah, but you didn't even talk to them.

You did nothing.

And you're leaving your brother behind.

Yeah.

I wonder, I mean, you know, whatever the other side, like, whatever that experience is going to be,

I have a feeling like,

yeah, we're not going to be, we're not going to be thinking any of that at all because we're going to be so consumed in the glory of

God and

everything.

And also, yeah, and I've heard some, a lot of,

a lot of like near-death experiences and things.

You know, people talk about you, you know, I'm over, I'm hovering above my body.

You know, I'm totally at peace.

I see the light.

I go toward the light.

I'm surrounded by love.

And then so many people have talked about

there's like a record of your life.

Yeah.

And you really do kind of like in

an instant, you're experiencing everything that you ever did and how you treated others-not how other people treated you, but how you treated others, so as to learn from the experience that you had in that life.

And so, I think, yeah, we'll be far more kind of tied up in all of that stuff.

But because of that,

because I do believe that we will be accountable for the way in which we carried ourselves, um,

even more reason to try to find that humility

to say, hey, listen, I could be wrong.

I could be wrong.

And if I can be wrong, that means I have every opportunity to be able to cross this chasm and say, hey, can we talk?

I don't agree with you.

I think that everything you stand for is totally humility.

But humility is the key.

If you say, hey, I want to talk to you, but you're not asking me, I really want to know how you got there.

Yeah.

Because

I don't understand it at all.

And then if you say something and I'm like, oh no, I never thought of it that way.

Most people

want to win right now.

They just want to win, my side to win.

If you stop talking to each other, I'm saying to you, you have nothing to teach me.

And there's no growth.

Yeah.

But it requires us to actually

want to understand,

how did you get there?

How did this happen?

Like the killer, what happened in your life?

How did you get to be that guy?

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And to your point, you know,

this is part of the problem.

What we're trying to fight against is that even people,

you know, I'm obviously, you know, as the world knows now, I'm more conservative leaning in my political spectrum.

There are people on the conservative side of the political spectrum that I have a lot of respect for, that I think are speaking a lot of truth.

And yet, and I think they're good people, right?

But the way that they carry themselves, and this is echoed also on the left as well, but I'm not going to even attack that.

I'm just, I want to even focus on our side of whatever this is.

Because on the conservative side, that should be leading by example, there's snark and sarcasm, and just

this desire to destroy.

And because they have, in their minds, been like,

not even worth my time.

Not worth my time sitting down with, you know, I don't know,

a trans man or a trans woman in no judgment and no hate and no nothing.

And just being like, hey, I don't agree.

I don't think any of us are born in the wrong body.

I don't think that biological men should be in women's sports.

I don't think that biological men should be in women's spaces.

I think that there's logic and reason to back these things up.

But I see you as a human being and I see that you are scared.

So let's take a moment and let's talk about this so that you can be less scared about what we believe is probably the right thing to do.

But there is no grace, there is no love, there is no just patience in that because there is no humility.

How much of that is trained?

I grew up with Bruce Jenner on the Wheaties box.

I poured my cereal out of boxes with him on it.

When I found out he felt trapped in his body and

I

mean, it brought me to tears.

I'm like, my gosh,

all of this time he's feeling that.

I'm not going to judge him.

I don't, I, I didn't have that experience.

I felt bad that he lived his whole life thinking that way.

That doesn't make, it doesn't mean that I'm going to go take him to the hospital and say, oh,

that's a woman, Doc.

Yeah.

That's absolutely a woman.

No, he's not.

He's not.

And that's okay.

Well, and by the way, even Bruce, Caitlin, Jenner,

one of the things

I love about them, her, I'm actually not sure what their preferred pronouns are, but we'll just call her her because that's how she feels.

But she has been very vocally standing up and saying things like, I'm not a woman, and I don't, and I shouldn't be in biological, biological women's sports.

So I have so much respect for that because it's, that's someone who recognizes this was a personal choice for me.

Yes.

That does not give me any right to then force this personal choice of mine into your life in any way, shape, or form.

And that is one of the foundational principles of this country.

It's like you should have the liberty and the right to live your life as an adult to make decisions in whatever capacity you want, so long as they are not infringing upon the liberties of anyone else around you.

That's how it works.

Now we're getting into this, well, this child believes that they're in the wrong body.

And of course, there's no programming or any, you know, any of that thing

going on, which obviously there is.

But this child feels this way.

And so we should indulge them in that and we should push that along and we should confirm that they are in fact in the wrong body.

When we can enlist eight-year-olds into the army, when we tell eight-year-olds they can drive, they can

get tattoos,

you might, you'll have, I won't ever go there because I wouldn't have gone there on the other things, but at least you'd have a case you're saying to me that an eight or a twelve year old who can't do any of these other things

can make the biggest decision of their life that will stop them perhaps from having children or even having by the way or even sexual sexual yeah like pleasure there's no pleasure there's no orgasm and i don't think these kids have any kind because they're not even pubescent they're probably the idea that when they turn 16 they're gonna have this thing kick on and they're gonna want to feel good with you right and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I don't even have any of those things anymore.

Like it is criminal.

It's criminal that this stuff is going on.

And hopefully, thank God,

the election went the way that I hoped it would.

Me too.

And you too.

And we have people in office or that are about to go get into office that will hold all of that to more account because we need to.

And it doesn't mean that we're now going to tell everybody this is the way you need to live your life.

It's like, oh, no.

We just need to.

There is common sense that has been thrown out the window and we just we got to get back to common sense here's we used to

we were a melting pot not because you had to conform um but because

we believed

these things are self-evident and it's a very short list yeah it's the bill of rights that's what brought us together can you agree with me that man has these rights and government should never

then you and i can disagree on on everything yeah exactly Anything.

Exactly.

But we have to come together on these few things.

And nobody's, we're going to disagree on taxes and

how you should live your life and God and everything else.

What set us apart was we could live as neighbors if we just said,

Yeah, you have the same rights I have.

Nobody has special rights.

And the government cannot tell either one of us what to do.

The thing that I hope happens, and it's why

RFK, we've joked about it, but RFK back in 2004

called for my execution as a traitor

because I didn't, I said, I can see the thermometer.

I think we should all be green.

But I'm not sure the science actually is accurate.

That was not good enough for him at the time.

And, you know, he's a traitor.

And he actually said to me on my own show,

you should be tried as a traitor.

And I said, that's constitutional.

That's execution.

We've joked about it since.

He's like, I've changed a lot.

Yeah.

He has.

He has.

And how great is that?

Yes.

God gives us that ability to,

as we go through our lives, we should all be evolving.

We should all grow behind.

We should all be learning.

If you're not learning and growing and changing, you're dead.

You're literally just the walking death.

yeah and and yeah listen but i was gonna say what i like what i what i like about this

is

elon musk is one of the most brilliant men alive today

he's a thomas jefferson okay

um

rfk

has is saying things and believes things that i'm not sure are true but I'm not sure he's wrong.

You know what I mean?

He studied his whole life.

I'm not hiring an expert to just tell me what's true, but he'll expose what's there.

All of the people that are around Donald Trump now, and it wouldn't have happened if he won in 2020.

I know, I agree.

Are all people who say this doesn't work?

The Constitution works.

The Bill of Rights work.

But the way we're executing government doesn't work.

No one's held accountable.

And

we have to go back now and go,

I don't care if you go to, I want you to go to jail if you broke the law, and I don't care who you are, but if you were pardoned, okay, let's say he pardons everybody involved in COVID.

I think that's a mistake, but I want the files exposed so no one can hide.

I want to know the truth so we can never repeat these mistakes, or at least not for a while.

Yeah, yeah.

And listen, I, yeah, I think that I'm with you.

I think that, you know, anyone who

has been involved in lying to the American people, the people of the world, really.

I mean,

and I definitely think that the pandemic is full of deception, full of deception.

Oh, and

knowing

evil deception.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And I want all of those people to be held accountable.

But to your point, even more important, even if for some reason those people get pardoned by Biden before he gets out, which would be very interesting.

Like, why are you pardoning somebody that they're not?

Yeah, I know.

What's going on?

Also, how is he even allowed to be making any of these decisions if he was already deemed unfit to run, rerun as president?

I don't understand.

But anyway,

but even more important is that the light is shown and that everything is revealed.

Because without that, even if there's not prosecution of these various ringleaders, if we don't all know the truth, then we all can't come back together as people.

Right Right now, because I've made some statements about my thoughts on the vaccine and that I do believe that they are linked to turbo cancers and that a friend of mine was a victim of that.

I've been dragged for that.

People have like, how dare you even insinuate that this is something that he did to himself.

And I was like, first of all,

I'm not blaming him.

My friend who I did Broadway with, he was a wonderful human being.

And I believe that he trusted

his bosses who trusted the government.

those that is who we must hold accountable.

And

if we don't ever get to the bottom of all of this, or rather, we are getting this is the ironic thing.

We're actually getting to the bottom of it, but it's just not being reported.

It's not being really shown.

But there, if you,

you know, for anybody watching right now,

go and Google SV40, Simeon Virus40.

I don't know if you're familiar with this

monkey virus 40.

Simeon virus 40.

Okay.

Simeon virus 40 was basically with any

inoculations, vaccines, right?

There's DNA and things involved.

And the original polio vaccine that they were developing, they put simian virus 40 into that vaccine.

I can't remember the name of the doctor, but he very famously in front of an auditorium,

he injected two of his grandchildren.

with this vaccine to prove its safety.

His granddaughter died of cancer within like six months.

His grandson ended up getting so sick that he lost limbs.

I mean, it was horrible.

The government has known and the pharmaceutical industry has known that SV40 as a DNA

creates these cancers, creates turbo cancers.

It's very well documented.

And for some reason, Pfizer decided to use it as its vector of DNA.

in its vaccines to then replicate the RNA.

Oh my gosh.

Oh yeah, dude, It's, I mean, you know, and again, people would look at me and they go, conspiracy theorist, and blah, blah, blah.

It's like, you know what?

Fine.

If you don't want to go and just simply Google and do, and listen, sometimes it's difficult because there's so much stuff out there.

Correct.

But go to the original source.

There's so much original source stuff out there.

I mean, I did, we were

eight months into COVID, and I did a, I think it was like a two-day special showing, no, wait,

here's the document

where they're talking about all this stuff.

Here's the document from Pfizer that's saying all this stuff.

And

people choose not to believe.

And it's,

you, you, you can only deny the truth for so long before everything caves in on you.

Yeah.

Well, it's cognitive dissonance.

I mean, it's, it, it's very difficult for people.

and I understand this.

We all struggle with this on some level, but

it's very difficult to hold two seemingly very oppositional viewpoints in tension together.

And in this case, it's, I can both live a happy, healthy life.

I can work.

I can have a family.

I can, you know, go on vacations.

I can do all of these things and I'm good and I'm safe and all of that.

And also

there is so much corruption at the top of our government and various industries that they absolutely know that they are harming us and making money off of that.

These are both true things, in my opinion.

And I think for a lot of people, they're like,

can't, cannot believe that, will not believe that.

Because if I believe that, it would shatter a lot of what they are pinning their happiness.

That's what I was talking about when I said you're afraid to look inside because you don't know what's there.

You're afraid to shatter this life because it's all you know.

You know, if you recognize this stuff, a lot of this is going to change in your life.

And that's terrifying.

People don't like change.

And that terrifies them.

And so they, they build up this, I'm not even going to look at it.

It's at best they'll say, it's too big.

I can't do anything about it.

I don't care.

Yeah.

Well, you do, actually.

You're just protecting this because you're human and you're afraid.

It's okay.

Yeah.

When it comes to therapy, I think we're definitely terrified of the change that will come through because

we have, you know, we think we like ourselves.

And like, I don't want to lose all the good parts of me.

When I went to therapy, I was definitely afraid that somehow

I'm going to have to let go of all that is good about me.

Your good parts get better.

Exactly.

Exactly.

It just amplifies the better version of you and you get to kind of just strip away all of this baggage and all of these things that have been holding you back and slowing slowing you down and putting you in bad moods because you don't realize you're being triggered by a trauma that you didn't even realize you had.

Right.

And so therapy can be so amazing and life-changing and life-saving.

And yes, to your point, the same when it comes to these like big concepts in the world, it's like, no, I have an idea of who I am and what the world is and I don't want that to change.

It's terrifying to go down that road and allow it to.

And so that's why we need it all, you know, exposed.

I used to be,

you know, flag waving

you know Uncle Sam I hate Uncle Sam he's wearing striped pants for a reason okay he should be in jail he should not be trusted

but I used to love all of that stuff

and I remember reading a book

probably 2003 and I stopped about a chapter in

and I thought I have to call the author and talk to him myself to make sure he's sane and he's he he's level-headed and he's not a crazy conspiracy guy.

Because I knew if I read any more of this, it's going to begin to unravel everything I believe.

But instead of it just unraveling everything I believed,

it forced me then to say, wow, we did all of these horrible things.

How did we also do all of these things?

So I came to this place where

is america a good country or a bad country the answer is yes yeah we're both but we should be learning from this column yeah and pushing this column up instead of just giving up on it

yeah it's really unfortunate it's really unfortunate that um

It's really unfortunate that the people I think are that are actually most patriotic about the United States, at least now, are also the ones most willing to recognize how corrupted it is.

I mean, my mom, God bless her.

I mean, she did a lot of good, even throughout whatever the traumas and all that were.

She did a lot of good in bringing me and my sisters up.

And one of those things that she and my dad both instilled in us was a healthy level of distrust of the government.

Because they knew, they knew that even for all of the great things that the United States has been, still is, represents, does in the world, all of those things, there is deep, deep, deep, deep, deep corruption.

And

the deep state and all of these things that are pulling strings and coups.

I mean, what's happening in Syria right now?

It's like

it's crazy.

What's happening in Ukraine?

We're sending billions and more dollars for what?

Well, so that BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street and Albert and everybody can go destroy it all and then rebuild and own the farmland.

And own it all, man.

And it's right there.

It's happening right in in front of our face.

And so it does.

It puts us in a very weird position because it's like, well,

I want to be proud of my country and I want to be patriotic because I really do.

And I am.

But I think at this point in human history, in American history, to actually want to love your country and be patriotic about it is to want to dismantle what is happening right now.

That's what our founders said.

Absolutely.

That's what our founders said.

When you were talking about the guy in Guantanamo,

you know,

it drove me nuts when

what kind of country can say, we don't torture.

We do not torture people.

Now,

I'm going to put you on a ghost plane and send you over to Egypt, who will torture the crap out of you.

But that wasn't us.

But that's not us.

That's, no.

No.

No.

That's not us.

If you believe...

that torture is right, I don't, but if you believe that torture is right, we should have that discussion and it should be out.

And this is who we are.

There is nothing in the shadow over here.

This is what we believe.

This is how we live.

Big things, that's not that hard.

No, and more than that, you know, as people that believe in spirituality and energy and morality and as it pertains to all of that, you know, if we, or any country, I think, wants to be right,

be in alignment with good and God.

You cannot be walking in deception.

You cannot be walking in these clandestine, you know, oh, put it on this show, but we're doing this thing over here.

No, that is not, that is not of integrity.

We have to be transparent, we have to be authentic.

If we feel like we need to do certain things that are going to be difficult things to do in order to protect something that is of extreme value, liberty, freedom, all of these things, obviously, you know, it's not always easy.

This is not a

clean fight all of the time.

No.

Understood.

But we have been operating, again, and by we, the government.

The government and not even the full government.

This is actually one of the things that blows my mind.

And then I think also kind of keeps everybody confused because I think a lot of people who vote Republican think, well, every Republican is great and every Democrat.

And people who vote Democrats feel the same way.

And I try to talk to everybody and I go, hey, listen,

there is a duopoly of power, and it is a sect of both Republicans and Democrats that sit at the top of whatever all that pile is.

And they influence both of their parties greatly.

But a lot of the party under them are not affiliated with, are not actually a part.

They might get manipulated by them, but they're not a part of that corruption.

And some of them may want to go in there.

Yeah, certainly.

But it's, it's this controlling that octopus of the administrative state that no one has voted for.

No one knows who they are.

That's what's actually happening.

The rest,

I mean, all the world is but a stage.

I've heard that in my mind for the last 10 years.

Everything I watch, I'm like, uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Oh, yeah, that's that.

Yeah, that's what's happening.

No,

we're arguing Trump Biden, Trump Biden, Trump Biden, you know, or

All of these.

We're not even talking about the real issues.

None of it.

They've got us all, I mean, it's a really clever scheme.

It's brilliant.

They just keep us all fighting about things that aren't the actual thing we ought to be really fighting about, which would mean holding them accountable.

If we're all distracted talking about trans rights, if we're all distracted talking about DEI, if we're all distracted talking about whatever, if we're all thinking, oh, this is Democrat versus Republican or conservative versus liberal, then we're all lost in the game that they want us playing.

We are not talking about.

I am almost out of time and I have something I really want to talk to you about.

But

if you'll come back, I really want to talk to you about AI because you know AI.

I have been,

I've met with Ray Kurzweil several times.

You know who he is?

Okay, yeah.

So

I think he is a genius and he is scary as hell.

He is

he has enough evil scientists in him to scare the bejesus out of me.

And I've said that to his face.

But if

we're bogged down on all of these things,

we're not talking about what's just in front of us with AI.

And it is game-changing in the next two years, four years.

Two years.

Yeah.

Yeah, listen, I mean, definitely, I would love to come back and we can talk more about it.

But suffice to say for now.

And I really don't like, I'm a, I think, a realistic optimist.

Like, I don't like to just be dour.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

And dire about things.

But

as far as I can tell, we are very close within two years, two to five years

of

the entire face of this planet being

unrecognizable when it comes to how it's going to infiltrate every single industry and workforce.

Like, I don't think people realize that we're on the precipice of massive layoffs, massive layoffs.

Massive.

People have no idea that by 2030, there could be 10 people that are actually gathering all of the wealth, making all of the decisions, and the rest of it is a hellscape

run by and guarded by AI where you don't move.

Now, that's a horrible thing to think of.

But we have to.

But we have to.

We have to.

We cannot go.

We cannot do this.

Yeah, we cannot.

We cannot do this.

Look.

Yeah.

This is a miracle.

Yeah.

But it is also destroying humanity.

It's destroying our children.

We just did the biggest human experiment ever.

Just like, here, buy one of these, have your kids on it.

We just, we know now

that's not good.

And we're about to get something a trillion times more powerful than this could ever be.

And we're all going to interact with it, and we're not going to talk about it.

It's terrifying.

Well, and I will say, just before we

take off here, but

I do think that the entertainment industry is going to be

a canary in the coal mine because anything that we're recording, audio, video, anything, that all goes through a computer and NVIDIA graphics are now photorealistic.

Oh, I hope.

I think in just a few years, you know, you'll be able to go to whatever, Disney Plus, and for $10 more per month or whatever it is, you get to go to their creator section and you get to literally type in any of their assets, any characters from any movies of anything that Disney owns.

So it's like, I want Captain America and Indiana Jones and Flynn Ryder from Tangled or whatever it is, and I want them on a you know a treasure hunt on Mars that feels like it was directed by Steven Spielberg.

Enter.

And then you will get a one-of-one.

You will sit at home and you will get a one-of-one movie that nobody's ever seen.

And then you can share that with your friends and they'll be making movies and they'll share them with you and all of these things.

Well, then who goes to movie theaters anymore?

Who goes and rents or anything a human-made movie?

You don't need to.

You won't have to.

So

who actually profits off of that?

Disney.

Yeah.

That's it.

Yeah.

Well, there'll probably be some, I would hope there's still some royalties to go to whoever created any of that particular IP.

But who knows what that whole thing will look like, right?

And again, that's just one example.

I know, I know.

Yeah.

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I really want to talk to you about.

Because this is at this season,

the holiday season, I wanted to take the journey with you on life's worth living.

It's great.

But

you are going to be a father.

Yeah.

Five years ago, if you, what would you have said to you five years ago?

You're going to be a dad.

It's going to be okay.

And would you have believed it?

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, listen, I've cried.

A lot of tears and spent a lot of time on my knees

pleading with God.

Like, I,

when will that happen for me?

Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be a dad.

I've known it.

It's like, I really, and I really do think I like, I always knew I was going to be an actor too.

Not just that I wanted to be an actor, which I did, but I knew I was going to be.

It's like weird things that I think that like almost like our soul has a mission select screen, like a video game before it comes down and inhabits our body.

And it's like, your mission, should you choose to accept it, will be, you're going to be an actor, you're going to do this, you're going to be a dad, right?

So it's like in your DNA, you know what you're supposed to be or what, or some of those guide guideposts.

And so I've just always known and I've always wanted it.

And I've always been Uncle Zach to all of my friends, kids, and to my actual nephews now.

And people my whole life would be like, you're such a, like, you'd be such a great dad.

Why aren't you a dad?

And I'm like, it just hasn't been the right time.

And I'm, I, and, and ultimately, I, I was not the right person.

And to attract the right person who was at the right point in their life.

And now my girlfriend Maggie and I are embarking on this wonderful journey together.

And I am so pumped to be a dad.

But because I always knew it in my DNA, I don't think that I would be surprised had I been able to talk to myself five years ago, but I would have been relieved because I definitely was like, oh man, I'm 44 now.

Like my dad was 34

when I was born.

And I remember him being 44 and I was 10 and we would be playing ball, you know, playing catch.

And, you know, granted, my dad didn't.

He wasn't a super athletic guy, didn't really take care of himself all that much.

But I remember like we'd be playing, playing catch, and I'd get like an errant ball by him or something.

And then he would turn around and kind of go trudge to get the ball and I would feel horrible.

Like it was, it was a really weird internalized kind of trauma.

I felt like I was putting him out.

I felt like I was making him work extra hard.

And that internalized in me.

And I was like, I don't ever want to be an older dad to my younger kids.

Yeah.

And so I'm already 10 years beyond that, but I've also taken care of myself.

And I, and, and I am, you know, reasonably athletic and I can't wait to play ball with my kid when I'm now 54 and he's 10.

Yeah.

But I'm just so pumped about it man i think that being and you can speak to this but i know i know that i know that in the same way that everything that we go through in our life every every hardship every

anything that is difficult uh that is a challenge it makes us a better version of ourselves and there is nothing that will challenge you and reward you like being a parent.

And I can't wait to become the man I'm supposed to be because of that.

There is nothing more that will challenge you than being a parent.

And I'm 60 and it's weird to be 60 and my youngest is 18 and

I regret so much of my life

working so hard and being away from my kids because

unlike you, I didn't always want to be a dad.

And

I had children, fell in love with my children,

but I still was then building my career at the same time and i specifically made choices

and

now

thank god i'm close to all my children and we're all close

but now i wish i had 10

and because there's nothing there's nothing i want more than just to be surrounded by my family that's when i'm absolutely the happiest when everybody in the family is home and we're all joking with each other and having fun or talking or what whatever it is yeah that's the meaning of life.

That is the meaning of life.

So let me ask you one question because we've had a debate.

Okay.

We had a debate on this.

You said, I want to get the exact wording right.

You said on Bill Maher

that you were ready to lock it down with your girlfriend.

Yeah.

What does that mean?

Well, I mean, marry her.

Okay, you know,

at some point, I mean.

Whoa, whoa, wait, wait.

Lock it down, marry her at some point.

Yeah.

What do you mean?

Well, listen, I was married very briefly once before.

Right.

And

it was

a very difficult time of my life.

And I learned a lot from that.

But it also, I don't know, I think, you know, it definitely made me just how

getting married, legally, technically, all of the things that become intertwined and all, and then the mess that it was to untwine all of that stuff or whatever.

Not that I have any intention or desire to do that with Maggie, but also just this concept that that the government is involved in your marriage.

So all of those things,

I just have some apprehension to.

But to commit to somebody for the rest of my life and build a family with them, I have no apprehension about.

Like when we first met, I knew, like I knew pretty much right away, I was like, I think this is the girl I'm going to marry and I'm going to have family with and have kids with.

And she felt the same way.

But we also didn't feel like it had to be done in that particular order because we trusted each other and we continue to trust each other and we continue to journey down this road together.

So, yeah, I don't know.

Listen, what I don't want to do is like, oh, crap, a shotgun wedding because she didn't know.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Like, I don't know.

I'm not suggesting that.

We were just debating, lock it down.

Never heard that before.

What does that mean?

I'm going to lock it down.

It's why I've always been for gay marriage.

I don't really care.

Yeah.

And I don't think the government should be involved.

I don't care if a tree marries the two people.

I don't, I really, whatever.

Your ideal.

A Tolkien ends or something like that.

I mean, lumbering down the

hobbits.

I pronounce you man and wife.

But it doesn't matter.

But the commitment,

I have to tell you, I had a first wife, didn't work out well.

I married early, didn't work out well.

Not a good human being.

I think we already covered that.

With me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

My, my wife now,

it's when it's right

and you are

and it doesn't need a ceremony when you are like

there is there is no out for us.

There is no out.

We believe in eternal marriage.

Forever, we're going to be together.

You start to see people, you start to see the other person different and you're like, okay, okay, we're going to be together forever.

I got to see what we're going to talk about.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

But that's iron sharpening iron.

Yeah.

If we just have a, you know, pull a rip cord anytime we want to, you're never going through the most uncomfortable times.

You're never getting ground down to become the better you.

Yeah.

Like that's why with a kid, you know, it's forever.

It's like, that's my responsibility.

So they're going to grind you down.

I mean, obviously, there's some people that skip out on their kids' lives or whatever.

That's not a given.

But most people, I think, I hope, see that as like, this is my responsibility for the rest of my life I have got to be investing in this child and giving them some kind of parenting or whatever it is with relationships It's a lot easier for people to pour that rip cord, but I don't want to do that I want I want to know what it means to be my best me and that requires being in a committed relationship and I think ultimately There's something about children.

If you don't ever have children,

there's a level of unlock that you're not getting to because not for babies, there's nothing else that can replace, oh my God, I have created or adopted this life into

my

responsibility, into the rest of my life, and to infuse and to give them love and give them direction and want, you know, I can't wait.

One of the things I can't wait to do is

be able to love my children so much that I'm breaking the generational trauma that has come down through my line.

You know what I mean?

Yes.

Because they deserve that.

And my parents deserve that and they didn't get it.

And I got a half-life of that.

And now, because I've I've been able to be fortunate and blessed enough to have done the work that I've done on myself and continue to, now I can hand off to my children an even better starting point.

We have a theory in my family that the abuse on my father's side started

because

my great-great-grandfather and great-great-uncle were in Andersonville, the notorious Civil War prison.

And

only one came home.

And the writings of the sisters and the wife after that, he was never the same.

And it wasn't good somehow or another.

And we think that that family trauma started way back then.

And that's been my goal, my whole life with my kids, is

we got to break this.

That's the thing that really stopped me from committing suicide was, no,

I know what it did to me.

I'm not doing that.

We're breaking this, yeah, and it's fantastic.

It's powerful, man.

Oh, it's so good, so great.

And that ultimately, with every single life, and this is why mental health to me is the thing I champion the most.

I have a

mental health 501c3 called nerdhq, nerdhq.org.

Go check it out, donate, whatever it is.

Explain it.

Well, basically, it was an event that I did for many years during San Diego Comic-Con.

That was we did celebrity panels and photos and signings, and it was all for charity.

It was for Operation Smile, who I was an ambassador for that does Cliff, Lipt, and palate surgeries.

And we raised $2.5 million over seven years and we had dance parties every night.

It was wonderful.

Built a wonderful community.

I had to shutter that as the four-business operation.

We never really, we were always like break-even, but we raised a lot of money for nonprofit.

And I was like, you know what?

Right around the time I had my mental breakdown, went to therapy, saved my life.

Mental health was like, this is the most important thing I can be fighting for.

And I want to turn NerdHQ into a 501c3 that is just constantly raising money in every way, shape, and form we can to help pay for people's therapy who can't afford it.

I think that, you know, for a long time, there was so much stigma around mental illness and mental health.

That was the barrier of entry.

We needed to get people to destigmatize that, to recognize, no, it's good, it's healthy.

You want to go and work on yourself.

It doesn't make you crazy.

Everyone's dealing with it on some level.

Dental health or mental health is like dental health.

We've all got a cavity here or there, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Hopefully not, but maybe we do.

And you want to go address that as soon as possible.

If you don't, it festers, it rots, it becomes a full-blown root canal later on.

I'm trying to help people get to those cavities as soon as they can.

And if not, then even if they need a root canal.

But the problem is that most people now, more and more people are making less and less money.

They don't have the extra cash to go blow, you know, $200, $250

on a therapy session.

And so if I do nothing else in this world, I want to be able to help people heal.

If we can help heal everybody's hearts and minds, if we can do that as parents, as fathers of breaking the generational trauma, and then we can also help other people and whatever their journeys are, all that does is keep raising the vibrational energy of this world into more love, into more light.

and that is where God wants us to take it.

That's what we want to do.

So that's what I want to do with Nerd HQ.

And we're still going to do events and all that stuff to raise money and bring people joy.

But the baseline of it all is go and donate, help us out.

We're just going to keep paying for people's therapy.

That's what we're going to do.

What a pleasure.

Yeah.

I can

check number three off of my list.

We'll got to get you Pratt and Denzel.

Yeah.

Well,

then I guess I'm done.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Glenn.

Yeah, bad.

Appreciate it.

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