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I'm a little upset at justice in this country.

Perhaps you are too, just a little bit.

With Daniel Penny and what's going on with Daniel Penny in New York City.

Again,

they are just changing the law in New York.

Honestly, if you live in New York, you should reconsider because there is no such thing as justice.

There's no such such thing as a law that's written down and they follow it.

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Okay, so here's what happened on Friday.

If you've been following the Daniel Penny trial, now Daniel Penny is the guy who is on the subway,

did absolutely the right thing by standing up when this guy who was, he's psychotic,

he was high on crack or something.

I mean, I don't know what the other options are besides crack, but he was high on something.

And he was threatening everybody on the subway and said, I'm going to kill you all.

I'm going to kill you all.

Well, there was this Marine sitting there and nobody got up and did anything because everybody's afraid.

So do you remember, what was the guy's name?

I said it just last week or so.

The guy that was on the plane that was going to the Pentagon and they crashed, not Pentagon, the Capitol, and they crashed in Pennsylvania.

Beaman, Todd, Todd, Todd Beamer.

Beamer.

Todd Beamer.

Todd Beamer stood up and said, let's go.

And he got everybody to do it, right?

We all thought that was a hero.

Well, now in New York, that's not a hero.

This guy is a Marine, knew how he could choke the guy out without killing him, but he was high on crack or whatever, and

he choked him out, and he died.

Well,

everybody was happy that he did it.

Not that he died, but everybody was happy that he took control of the situation and stopped this guy because everyone on the train was afraid for their life.

So they interview him.

He's saying to the police, I didn't mean to hurt him.

He doesn't know he's dead at the time.

You know, I just wanted to choke him out.

I really hope that, you know, everything's okay, but, you know, somebody had to stand up and do something.

The guy is clearly a hero.

Well, not in New York, because common sense doesn't exist in New York.

And so they decide to try him.

Well, now they're in the trial, and here's how it works.

First,

they charged him with two things.

And if you have a hung jury on either one of those, it's a mistrial.

okay?

So they charge me with just being too good looking and a second count of just being too smart.

If the jury is like, I don't know, 11 of us say, nope, and one is like, no, he's really good looking, I thank my wife for being part of the jury pool.

But it's a hung jury, okay?

And you can't go to the second count, if you're hung on the first.

That's the law.

Well, Maxwell Wiley, who is the quote justice, handed the prosecution a gift.

It was a Christmas gift.

Hey, it's coming a little early.

Why don't you open this up?

He allowed or granted the request to drop the count of manslaughter in the second degree, which the jury was deadlocked on, telling the jury, now just only consider the lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide.

Well,

you can't do that.

You can't do that.

You have to come to a conclusion 12-0

on the first one before you can move to the second one.

If you're hung on the first one,

this is a game that is being played because

apparently Bragg just wants another conviction of somebody.

And you cannot change the rules in the middle of the game, but doesn't matter in New York City.

Why are you living in New York?

Sincerely, sincerely, haven't they given you enough indications that they don't care about the law?

Alvin Bragg,

he should be fired.

There should be people right now marching in the streets in New York saying, this guy's got to go.

It's not, this isn't, this isn't about Donald Trump.

He's already bent the law so far out of shape that you can't even recognize it under Donald Trump.

And now for a regular person, he does it again, and a judge helps him do it.

This isn't American justice.

So

Bragg asked for this.

Can't even believe he should be disbarred for even asking for this.

And so should the judge for granting it.

So

what's going to happen?

Well, today the jury is going back under new rules, just made up,

and they're going to consider the lesser charge without the bigger charge.

So he could be charged with the lesser one.

See, this is why they always say on the first count, we find the defendant not guilty or we find him guilty.

If they say we are hung on the first count, you never get to the second, third, fourth, fifth count.

You have to have a verdict on each count.

So, what are they going to say?

On the first count, we're hung.

Well,

the law requires then that this case is a mistrial.

And Bragg can go for the lesser charge and try him again, but you can't can't just,

this is insane.

This is insane.

This is not American justice.

This is a kangaroo court.

In New York, again, I just say to you, why are you living there?

If they don't care, look what they've done to business.

They've charged Donald Trump with something that has never, ever been charged before.

Never been charged before.

It was not a victimless crime.

It wasn't a crime.

It wasn't a crime.

He stated that the value of one of his houses, Mar-a-Lago, was worth more than the state said.

The bank,

you've never walked into a bank and said, you know what?

I've got a house worth $14 billion.

And they go, oh, okay, we'll take your word for it.

They don't ever do that.

They go and they send somebody to inspect and look at the house and

evaluate and give value for the bank to the house.

And they're like, yes, now we're $14.

We're going to give you $1,400

of value for that.

Okay.

Then he took out a loan.

Based on those numbers, he paid it back with interest exactly as contracted.

And where's the crime?

Because everybody, everyone puts a different value, perhaps, than the bank does.

The bank doesn't take your word for it.

If the bank took everybody's word for it, the bank would be out of business.

My gosh.

So they did that.

What does that mean for businesses?

It means if they don't like you, Look out.

Look out.

They also charged him with other business crimes, never been tried before.

They don't care.

But everybody looked the other way because that was Donald Trump.

This is not Donald Trump now.

This is a guy who all of America should be calling a hero.

If you watched him say after they arrested him and they're trying him or they're questioning him with the police, they come in

and they're talking to him.

The guy is clearly not, yeah, well, I took him down.

He was clearly just trying to protect people and do the right thing.

Again, there are two Americas, and I don't understand

this one

because this one isn't about

this one's not about

Donald Trump.

Now, there have been people who've tried to make this about race because he's white and the victim was black.

So maybe New Yorkers are still buying into that crap.

That show is over, guys.

That show is over.

When there is a real crime about black and white, white on black or black on white doesn't matter.

But you're at the very end of all of this nonsense

of DEI and all of that crap.

You're at the end of it.

That was a bad movie, and we're at the end of it.

And people are starting to walk out of the theater going, I don't think I bought that.

That was, well, that was ridiculous.

People liked it for a long time.

It's not over yet, but it's damn close.

Now, let me give you another story.

This is the same kind of story, except it happens in Germany, but it's to an American.

A 64-year-old

Etria?

Eritrea?

Eritrea.

So he's an Eritrean.

Eritrean, yeah.

Eritrean.

And I'm sorry, I only vacationed there a couple of times.

Yeah.

Well, you had that timeshare for a bunch of years.

Yeah, and there was an issue with it.

So

understandable.

Anyway, I only went just for the free weekend.

Yeah.

I had to sit there and listen to the Etrian or Atrian people talking.

Anyway,

so this guy

comes and he grabs this 20-year-old by the butt

and kind of grabs her and she fights back.

And then it gets a little nasty.

And she pulls out a knife and comes after him.

And he grabs her arm with the knife and she gets, you know, the better of her, of him, because he's 64, she's 20.

And she grabs a knife and she sticks it in him.

She sticks it in his heart.

He dies.

Okay?

Now, I just, I want to give you a little bit of background here on what's happening

in

Germany.

More than a thousand women were sexually assaulted by migrants at a New Year's Eve celebration in Germany.

A thousand

at

a New Year's Eve celebration.

Okay.

In September of 2023, 26 German police were injured as masses of Eritrean migrants fought each other in the streets.

Okay, 26 police.

So this is not necessarily,

you know, the, hey, let's just become German kind of people.

Got it?

This is the same problem happening all over.

So what happens to this American?

So she goes to

She goes to trial and she's found guilty.

She, by the way, turned herself in as soon as it happened.

She called police, she called, you know, 911 or whatever it is,

and then turned herself in.

She She was charged with causing bodily harm, resulting in death.

She was arrested, she was found guilty, and they gave her 10 years in prison.

10

years

in prison.

Now, let me show you how fair that is in Germany.

There was a group of nine

migrants that gang raped a German girl in 2020, nine were convicted.

Only one went to prison.

Even though all nine

expressed no regret whatsoever, only one of the nine went to prison.

And it wasn't for 10 years.

Then,

Because of that, the German police investigated more than 100 Germans criticizing the people in that case, criticizing you and say, how can you possibly let these nine go?

Look what they just did.

They investigated and prosecuted,

well, they investigated at least 100 people

for just speaking out.

In June, another 20-year-old woman in Germany was sentenced to jail for defamation defamation for calling one of those nine men a disgusting rapist pig.

So the one she called a, quote, disgusting rapist pig didn't go to jail.

She did.

Our State Department said, well, we can't talk about this.

We can't talk about this at this time.

I'd be talking about this.

Hopefully Donald Trump will be talking about this.

Hey, Germany, return this woman.

Return this woman.

This is, I'm telling you, this is the kind of stuff that ends poorly.

Was she wrong?

I don't think so.

But apparently, they were, when they were arguing and fighting, he turned and started to walk away and she pursued.

Now, I don't know how far that pursue was.

I don't know all the details, but that would give you a little indication that maybe she, but 10 years,

10 years when the people doing the raping get nothing?

I don't think so.

You're supposed to stand there and take the sexual assault?

Was that the plan?

That's the plan.

That's the plan.

If, I mean, unless you're a migrant.

I guess if a German sexually assaulted a migrant, you'd go to jail forever.

I don't know.

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All right, so let's get back to what we were just talking about, Justice.

Now, Donald Trump was on Meet the Press.

Are you surprised at all that he did this?

No.

No, he's the president.

Why do they get, and why is that assumed?

I guess is my question.

Why is it assumed that Meet the Press just gets this after the way NBC News has handled the past four years?

The president should go on a little of everything.

Yeah, I agree with that.

But like,

the way you reacted is, I think, the way America reacts.

Yeah, of course, he's president.

He's going to meet the press.

Why?

At some point, should we not challenge this at its core?

Yeah.

Because, I mean, you watch this interview, and I don't think she deserved this interview.

I don't think she did a good job with it.

Let me make your point because I almost just said this without thinking I was making your point.

It's meet the press.

So you're right.

You're right.

I don't know why.

I don't know why.

But he came on and he said,

look, illegals are going bye-bye.

He said, there is the failure to enforce laws regarding immigration that have been unfair to legal immigrants.

You have to.

It's a tough thing to do, but you have to.

We have rules, regulations, and laws.

They came in illegally.

You know, the people who have been treated very unfairly are the people who have been in line for 10 years to come into our country.

And we're going to make it very easy for people to come in.

And they have to pass a test.

They have to be able to tell you what the Statue of Liberty is.

They have to tell you a little bit about our country.

They have to love our country, but they can't come out of prisons.

We don't want people like that here.

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We have Senator Rand Paul on with us.

I've got to talk to him about a couple of things.

A staying out of war in Syria.

Two,

Anthony Fauci, is he going to be pardoned?

But let's start with Doge.

The Senate Republicans, hopefully, are ready

to just slash government spending.

And hopefully, we do it in the fashion that

Calvin Coolidge did it back in the 1920s.

Senator Rand Paul, welcome to the program.

Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me.

You bet.

So, how serious do you think this Doge thing is?

You know, I think it's very helpful because, you know, the problem is not just Democrats in Washington, it's big government Republicans.

Correct.

And I think Elon and Vivek bringing attention to this, we've already offered up.

I've been for 10 years collecting and arguing that we should get rid of waste.

We sent them 2,000 pages worth of waste that could be addressed immediately.

Some can be done through executive action.

I think you can let people go.

You can fire people.

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You can also change the contracting.

You know, one of the things Elon did at SpaceX was he started bidding on things and they started doing it through competitive bidding as opposed to cost plus.

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Oh, sorry, we came in at $2 billion.

Well, you get 10% of whatever you come in at.

So in fact, here's an incentive to come in over budget.

So there's a lot of things they can do, and I hope they will do.

On spending reductions, there's a special procedure where if we send a billion dollars to the administration to build a ship and they build it for $800 million, They can send the $200 million back to us through a special procedure called rescission, and it gets an immediate vote, a privileged vote, and it's a simple majority.

Most of the problems we have is getting to 60 votes to undo bad things the Democrats have done, but with this case, rescission, reducing spending that is sent back to us by the president, it's a simple majority.

However, we tried to do this in the first Trump administration with a really small bill, $15 billion cut, and it failed because Republicans voted with the Democrats to keep the spending.

So we have to do this.

We're going to have 53 in the Senate and only one or two majority in the House.

We've got to see if we can actually get the majority of Republicans to vote for spending cuts.

If they all do, we can cut significant spending.

Would you agree with me that Donald Trump's different than he was in 2020?

That if we would have had him in 2020, it would have been a different situation entirely?

I think he's much more focused now.

His picks for his cabinet, I think, are light years ahead of what was going on in 2016 for sure.

And

he really wants to disrupt.

He's not going to allow the status quo.

He saw the status quo use the apparatus of government to come after him individually.

And he realizes that in 2016, but again through 2020, that our intelligence agencies were being used against him.

Both retired and, I believe, active went after the whole Hunter Biden thing to say it was Russian propaganda.

And it turned out the propaganda was actually U.S.

propaganda, calling it Russian propaganda.

And FBI needs to clean out and be cleaned out.

Cash Patel, I think, can do it.

DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, I think, can do it over there.

And he hasn't picked

moderate, weak-mead Republicans.

He's picked strong people on the COVID front, picking Marty McCary, a doctor from Johns Hopkins, and Jay Battacharia, a doctor from Stanford, who've been leaders and pointing out this nonsense.

These are people I would have picked.

So

I'm over the moon with some of these picks.

So what do you think is going to happen?

I mean,

the White House is saying that Fauci may be pardoned in advance of anything, which doesn't seem like you could do that,

but they'll try it anyway.

I mean, at least it has to be, everything just has to be dumped and exposed.

I've sent referrals, criminal referrals on Anthony Fauci twice to the Department of Justice without really response.

Merrick Garland hasn't done his job.

He's probably been the most partisan attorney general we've ever had.

I will send those referrals again.

If they preemptively pardon Anthony Fauci, it will seal his fate as the architect, author, and godfather of the pandemic.

He's the one that funded it.

He's the one that funded the research in Muan.

He's the one that allowed the research not to be scrutinized.

People don't quite get this.

There was a safety committee that was supposed to scrutinize dangerous research.

It was set up because because of fear of exactly this happening.

There have been scientists talking about this for 20 years, worried that this is going to happen.

Anthony Fauci sidestepped the safety committee and allowed this research to go on.

Then when it came forward that he had done it, he's like, oh, nothing to see here.

We didn't really do it.

Oh, well, we funded EcoHealth and they funded Wuon, but oh, nothing to see here.

And then he had the gall to say it wasn't gain of function and it wasn't dangerous.

That's all a lie, all that's come out.

And really, we have him in his own words.

We have him in private saying, oh, we know it's really dangerous there, and we know they do gain of function research.

So we've got him dead to rights.

If the president pardons him,

I think it'll just cement his role in history as being the architect of gain of function surgery.

So but

will we release this?

This is the one thing I'm hoping Cash Patel does.

I hope he releases just the raw evidence that has been gathered, you know, kind of like the Twitter files,

where we can see all the stuff that has been classified that should be seen by the American people.

With regard to COVID, we voted unanimously to declassify all of it.

So, this was over a year and a half ago.

The FBI did do their job.

They did a report, and they said that they thought COVID came from the lab, that the virus or the pandemic started with the lab leaks, but they haven't released their report.

They've been told to declassify it.

I truly believe Cash Patel will look at that.

And the way you declassify it is this: if there's a name in there, you don't want somebody to know a name or a source, you take that out of the report.

In fact, even when I read and see classify things, I almost never have seen a name or a source, which I think is good.

You protect your sources, but I should get to see all the information.

And really, in this case, the American public should see all of the information.

Anything to do with RussiaGate, anything to do with the abuse of the FBI to go after Donald Trump, all that has to be publicly released as well.

Well, on Friday, here in Fort Worth, Texas, there was a judge that ordered Pfizer to release and produce all of its emergency use authorization file to a group of scientists that want to look through it.

And they've been saying, well, we can't do it.

We can't do it.

And the judge finally just said, do it now.

Yeah, we've never had someone like Donald Trump or like these appointees.

And that's why first line of battle is getting them through.

There are many establishment Republicans, you know who they are,

who are weak knee or frankly just no better than Democrats that are looking to destroy Donald Trump's picks.

And so I'm going to be working very hard for Robert Kennedy, for Tulsi Gabbard, for Cash Patel.

These are, you know, those three right at the tip of my mind are going to have a lot of establishment Republicans questioning.

And we got to make sure we get them through.

And we got to make sure everybody,

listening to the radio, everybody out there is calling their particularly Republican senators and saying, Donald Trump needs his team.

How long do you think?

I mean, do you think he's going to get these,

what do you call them, out-of-session appointments

where

because it took him like two years to get all of his appointments.

He didn't even get all of them in two years.

He needs them right now.

But I hate the precedent that that would set.

The the vast majority would be very quickly i can tell you i am hopeful that i will be chairman of the department of homeland security so christy gnome's nomination will come to my committee my plan is if elected in the next couple of weeks in january to be the chairman i will have a hearing for her before the inauguration as soon as he officially appoints or after the inauguration I may be able to have a vote that day.

Sometimes we will vote that day.

So while some of it was slow in 2016, the Secretary of State, Homeland Security, several of these

important positions were filled pretty quickly.

And we plan on doing that again.

I would be surprised in the first week if we don't have four or five cabinet-level people

appointed and voted on in the first week.

Let me switch topics to Syria.

The president made it very clear that this is not our issue.

You know, I went back this weekend and looked at a story from 2016 where the CIA was supporting one side and the Pentagon was supporting the other side in Syria, and they were fighting each other.

And now the president, the current president, whoever that is,

you know, bombed Syria over the weekend.

And I just have this bad feeling that the industrial complex, the military industrial complex, wants to have a war somewhere.

And Donald Trump is coming out and saying it isn't any of our business.

I know where you stand on war.

What do you see coming?

I agree completely with Donald Trump on this.

And the people who took over, the rebels who won, their new name is a new name given to an old group called al-Nusra, which were associated with al-Qaeda.

So they were Islamist, meaning that they were for a radical, fundamental sort of nature of Islam that doesn't treat women well, doesn't treat Christians well, etc.

A very primitive form of Islam.

Well, they've been fighting there for a long time.

There's also another group called ISIS that is actually somewhat the same, fundamental Islamist.

And then there are also other groups there as well.

There have been the Russians there.

There have been Iranian proxies there.

There have been Assad there.

Caught in the mix are hundreds of thousands of Christians who have always had sanctuary since the time of Christ, frankly, and are at risk.

And so we have 900 soldiers.

900 soldiers isn't enough to organize a parade.

I mean, 900 soldiers is not who you go to war with.

You want to go to war in Syria, you put 5,000, 10,000, 100,000 troops in.

You don't put 900 troops in there.

They become targets, not a deterrent.

They're not deterring anything.

But if some of them are killed, and I hope this doesn't happen, then all of a sudden, maybe we are drugged into the middle of a civil war where there are no good people on either side of it.

Let me ask you one final question about

you've got a bill coming out that's similar to the South Korean law, which I don't even know what happened in South Korea.

I'm still confused by that, where the U.S.

Senate would allow presidential emergencies to continue only with a majority vote in Congress, which I 100% back.

What does this mean

to all of the emergencies that we have dating way, way back that are still in effect?

They'd expire.

And currently, if a president has an emergency, the emergency can only be stopped by Congress if Congress votes to stop it, but then the president would veto it.

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I'm so sick and tired of hearing these sanctuary cities that were just crying, uncle, when it was Joe biden oh we can't handle this we can't handle we're going to collapse we need more federal money as soon as donald trump comes in they all double down we're sanctuary cities we're not going to do anything to help this man really

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How are you, sir?

Hey, good morning, Glenn.

I'm doing well.

Thanks for having me on.

Geez, so what is happening in San Diego now?

Oh, man.

Well, overall, what it is, is really disrupting cooperation between our local law enforcement and ICE, immigration and customs enforcement.

And so anytime you disrupt or try to stop that communication or cooperation, basically you're making us more unsafe.

And that's really what the overall crux is, what they're trying to do, is not have ICE involved primarily with the people that we have in the jails here in San Diego County.

Even though they're here illegally and even though they're criminals,

one of my colleagues is putting forward an effort that we don't have that cooperation between ICE and local law enforcement.

Matter of fact, we sever it.

And that's what's being proposed.

Let me read just an excerpt of this.

Shall not provide assistance or cooperation to ICE in its civil immigration enforcement efforts, including by giving ICE agents access to individuals or allowing them to use county facilities to investigate interviews or other purposes,

expending county time or resources responding to ICE inquiries or communicating with ICE regarding individuals' incarceration status or release dates or otherwise participating in any civil immigration enforcement activities.

This is insane.

It is.

And to have that and you know,

these are criminals.

These are criminals that have been charged.

They're in our jails.

And they're they're either, you know, while they're in, they should be able to be, I should be able to come in and investigate and see if they should be deported or not.

And when they get released, and unfortunately, you know, these

they're going to be released back into our communities.

There's no retribution.

And if we don't deport these people, you know, this is really what we need to do to make ourselves, our countries, and our communities safer is get these illegal immigrants that are here and that are criminals.

They should be deported first.

They should be out the door.

There should be no question about that.

And that just, you know, the community, we have people, you know, coming onto our beaches here in San Diego County in boatloads, and they're just walking into the communities and disappearing into the country.

We have the border here as well.

We had over 150,000

people just dropped in our streets here after they came across the border with no vetting.

And so, you know, in San Diego County, you know, we're not, we're a coastal community in California, which is still unfortunately mostly blue.

but we've also got safety concerns, and I'm hoping that most people wake up to that and say, hey, these criminal, illegal immigrants have to be deported.

So we're on in San Diego, and I hope that people are listening and

do they need to attend this meeting?

What do they need to do?

Well, they need to attend or call in.

They can do that.

They can contact the

county administration office and they can get information on how to call in and how to voice, you know, make your voices be heard.

Because this is really insane, the fact that we've got criminal elements here that are being released back into our streets, and the people are here illegally.

And pretty, you know, the people that

my colleague is trying to protect

are other illegal immigrants, is what she's trying to protect.

But by allowing the criminal ones to stay here, that's hurting the same neighborhoods that she's trying to protect.

To me,

it's

just ludicrous to try to

attempt to just allow that criminal element to stay here in San Diego County when they should be deported out of the country.

In San Diego, when the vote came through and people were voting red,

where was immigration on

the list of things people were voting for?

Because I would imagine in San Diego, if I was voting for Donald Trump, that would be pretty high on the list.

Oh, absolutely.

I do think immigration was huge just because

we're the doormat here in California

where Gavin Newsom just

puts out the red carpet for people to come across.

And so

there was a Republican shift.

There was a red shift, but not enough.

I think it was only about 12%.

We needed about double that here in San Diego County.

So immigration is on top of people, are on top of people's mind.

The thing is, unfortunately, most people are too busy to understand what's going on because they got their own lives and families and kids and to understand the nuances of what this is really going to do and to me it's going to be harmful to the community and and uh affect public safety uh for all of our neighborhoods uh here not only in san diego county but in the rest of the country do you think there's any chance that california ever turns i mean tanya and i have been talking about moving to to florida you know as i get older i guess i have to go with a metal detector onto a beach someplace and uh

and i i've i've always hated the humidity i grew up in the in the west coast and i always, always wanted to live in San Diego.

I won't even consider it because your state is so insane.

Is there a chance this ever changes?

I hope so.

I'm crossing my fingers.

We used to have, you know, we used to have a, you know, Ronald Reagan.

I know.

We've had some good leaders in the past, but unfortunately, it's shifted.

And

unfortunately, our entire state government,

they have a super majority of Democrats.

So even the Republican voices hardly ever get heard.

But I think people are waking up here, particularly

to the immigration issue.

And I think that's front of people's minds.

And even

the richer beach, or more affluent beach communities where these boats are landing, it used to be like two or three a week, we just have a dozen people jump off the boat and run into the neighborhood, get picked up, and go someplace else.

So I'm hoping there's some change, and immigration is definitely on top of people's minds, but they've got to understand that

we got to get rid of the illegal immigrants that are here committing crimes and allow law enforcement agencies to work together to keep us safe.

Is there any

thought at all about Donald Trump cracking down on sanctuary cities?

I mean, well, hey, I'm liking what Homan has been saying here lately.

Cracking down.

Right.

Yeah.

You know, there's ways they can do that, you know, with funding and things like that.

And,

we can't break federal law.

If they make a federal law such that

law enforcement agencies have to work together, then we can't really

push against that.

But

I think there's a possibility of some rational people finally getting around and saying, hey, this isn't safe.

We want immigration, we want it done legally, but people, if they're going to come here and just walk across the border, ask for asylum, and then commit crimes.

And these are high-end crimes we're talking about.

This is, you know, possession of a firearm, gang-related violence, burglary, robbery, child abuse, and endangerment.

Those are the things that are going to be taken off the list if this passes to where ICE can come in and

work with the criminal element.

Just insane.

Just insane.

We're talking to Jim Desmond.

He is a San Diego County supervisor.

All right, just one last push.

What do people do if they want to get involved and help?

Well, you can contact my office at jim.desmond at San Diego County,

or you can contact the county offices, look for the

meetings, go to the agenda, you can call in.

That's probably the easiest thing to do instead of waiting, you know, because the meetings go for several hours.

You can call in

and voice your concerns.

Tell my colleagues, because unfortunately, I'm at the wrong end of a 3-2 on this board, and I have a hunch it's going to pass.

And so we really want to let these folks know that, hey,

we want legal immigration.

We want law enforcement to work together.

That's the message.

Thank you so much, Jim.

I appreciate it.

God bless.

All right.

Thanks, Michael.

That's Supervisor Jim Desmond from supervisorjimdesman.com.

SupervisorJimDesman.com.

Man,

I hope the president comes down on these sanctuary cities.

You know,

there is a clear mandate here in every single city.

Chicago was even saying it.

We can't handle it.

We can't handle it.

And all of a sudden, Donald Trump wins.

Oh, we're against this entirely.

These people, we've got to coddle them and they're great Americans.

If they're causing crime in your city,

how is this?

Honestly, how does that even pass?

How is the person who is elected as a supervisor

justify that to the average citizen in San San Diego County.

Oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to, yeah, oh yeah, they were abusing children.

No, we don't want them deported.

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Yeah, very dark.

We're talking about the abuse of children, which

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It does a little bit.

But this is actually more of a question about, is this how journalism works?

Okay.

Is this how news works, Glenn?

Because I've been in this business for a while, but I didn't know this is how news works.

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But, like, do we just take tips from a guy who participated in child abuse, and then he's just like, ah, he's an unnamed guy.

I'm glad.

Sorry, he's a source.

I guess his child abuse of two minors does not get punished now?

Is he just okay to go with this?

Is that how news works, Glenn?

I need more than 10 seconds to answer that question.

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A Border Patrol retiree, Randy Clark, a guy who's really been following what's going on on the border,

is on with us.

I wanted to talk to him about a couple of things.

First of all, Randy, welcome to the program.

Have you seen any difference

in Mexico and on the border since Donald Trump, I think it it was last week, talked to the president of Mexico and said, you know, things are going to change.

Is the military of Mexico, have they done anything different?

So we haven't seen a significant posture change.

They are still actively keeping a lot of migrants in southern Mexico from Mexico City all the way to Tapachula.

There's been some loosening from my sources in Mexico on the highway checkpoints, but the train, that La Bestia train that we have seen thousands and thousands of migrants use to get to the to the border, it's basically void.

You know, they're still very strongly doing that.

So my sources unofficially have said the number has reduced for November apprehensions to less than 50,000, which is important because that's the threshold.

Remember the 2,500 threshold per day that President Biden said in his executive order to deny asylum, we're well under that.

We're close to 1,200 a day nationwide.

so it's staying pretty slow along the border thus far yeah it needs to go even uh the number needs to rise on the trip back are you seeing any movement at all on people who are either on their way to the border turning around or people that are here getting out if we have any indication of that

No,

we certainly don't.

What we know is we're seeing caravans assemble.

We're seeing the Mexican government allowing them to walk for a few days, get tired, and then dispersing them to cities around southern Mexico, urging them to wait for a CBP-1 appointment or to use the CHVN parole program right now.

But that's the complicating factor, Glenn, is that's definitely going to end as soon as the hand hits the Bible and President Trump is sworn in.

We're assured that that's going to end.

So

that's 1,450 people allowed in daily through ports of entry along the southwest border and another thousand a day through the airports.

So you're looking at nearly a million people a year under those two programs alone.

They're going to shortly find out that they're not going to get any appointments scheduled after January the 20th.

So the question is, how is Mexico going to kind of keep a lid on that pressure cooker they're going to have in a few short days?

We are talking to a retiree of the Border Patrol and a great reporter for Breitbart News who is really an expert on this, Randy Clark.

Randy,

the drug cartels have made so much money.

They've doubled the price since Donald Trump got into office of getting across.

I personally think, this is just my opinion, but I think that we're almost in bed with these drug cartels

and almost in business with them in some ways.

Donald Trump has said he's going to take him on, and I think he will militarily.

What's going to happen to, let's say, the new president of Mexico if she has to start cracking down on these cartels?

People usually die in her position in Mexico.

And I think we're seeing, you know, not an acknowledgement that she's going to be somewhat different than the predecessor in Mexico who believed in the hugs and not bullets.

There are still some battles between the Mexican government and the Sinaloa cartel going on, although it's not highly publicized, but the murder rate there is through the roof.

The murders continue in Mexico.

So if she doesn't cooperate with the United States, they're still sitting on top of a horrible death rate for Mexican citizens in every state really in their union.

So I think it behooves her to cooperate, but we must act.

When you look at how many children and young adults are dying from fentanyl, it's marketed poisoning of our youth.

So it's something that

I take the president and his word too.

My last year before I retired was under Donald Trump and the same folks he's nominating to run this Department of Homeland Security were involved in the policies and practices that saw us reach the lowest number of border crossings.

They've got this all on the drawing board already.

I think they're just going to enhance it and run it into high gear as soon as they get in in January and be very creative about how how we undo this mess we've seen over the last three years.

Yeah, Randy, I too know a few people that he has hand-selected that are no nonsense people

that are gearing for this.

What would the

reaction of Mexico and the Mexican people be if we just started sending SEAL teams in?

to take these cartels out

well you know i think in some Mexican states they would probably welcome that because, you know, if you look to see what El Salvador is doing right now and you see the phenomenal impact Bukele's, you know,

policies are having on crime there and the murder rate, that's the way we all want to live.

None of us want to live in a place where you can't enjoy your surroundings and move and your children aren't safe.

So I think you'd have some people in Mexico saying it's about time.

The question is, can we push them to do for themselves?

And I think we can, and I think we've seen that since January.

Right now, border crossings here in Eagle Pass that everybody witnessed on the news are down 80%.

They were 250,000 in a month across the southwest border in December of last year.

They are about 46,000 a month right now.

So we can see what Mexico can do if you really put the pressure on.

And nobody better than President-elect Trump knows the leverage that he possesses and how to use it.

So I think we can get a lot out of them without having to do that military intervention directly by declaring them terrorist organizations, by seizing that money, by stopping remittances to Mexico that are to the tune of $60 billion a year.

So there's a lot that President Trump understands and his crew understands they can do to get a handle on a lot of these things.

And I think the government of Mexico is already preparing for that, or they would have undone some of their enforcement efforts once they found out Kamala Harris lost.

You know, if you ask the average person who has deported

more people than any other president, maybe they would say Eisenhower.

They, of course, would probably say Donald Trump here soon.

But the one that is way over everybody else, everybody else is in the two, three million kind of

number.

The one that is the highest at 11 million is Bill Clinton.

And, you know, nobody said anything about that.

I didn't even, I was shocked when I read that.

And I don't remember anybody saying anything about deporting, but he did it the right way.

And he got

11 million people out from actually physically deporting and making it so uncomfortable that they would self-deport.

What do you think Trump's move in policy is going to be like to deport all of these people?

Well, I'm going to take him at his word.

I think we're looking at mass deportations because it has to be a big program.

I've stood on

the Mexican side of the river and watched a single group of over 2,000 cross the border in one single group.

I had never seen that in 32 years.

Never.

In that same area, it would have been a big deal five, six years before to see 20 people, 30 people in a group perhaps crossing.

It would have created quite a stir amongst the workflows.

Let's get over there and let's find these folks.

2,400, it's hard to deal with.

So if the removals are not going to be on a pace to match what we saw coming in, it would take decades to get this done.

But I think there's, you know, we own the parole that we have granted out.

We know it was for folks that were unvetted.

So there are a ton of people that are out of status right now that were released.

Some released with notices to report to ICE offices across the country that have disappeared.

So I think no one's going to be more creative than the staff in January on how to get this done.

I think they have a lot of tools.

I think they need to look at the enforcement of employer sanctions provisions, because if you disrupt the economy, people will stop hiring undocumented workers.

I think they know that.

Tom Halton knows that better than anybody else.

And if you were advising the president, what would your policy be?

What would you push for for the punishment of sanctuary cities?

Well, you know, I think if you look at the existing laws, you cannot harbor.

You can't harbor, aid, a bet, whether it's in a building anybody that you have reason to believe is in the united states in violation of law right so when ice gives these detainers to these sanctuary cities for someone accused of rape that we know has already been removed they are harboring when they don't let the ice agents in there to do their job and they release them on the street so they're not only endangering their communities i think clearly you could say that is aiding and abetting that's harboring when you say you can't come in this building because we don't want you to do your federal job so i think with a Congress installed, it's a Republican, my advice is to get everybody together and harden this and make it very clear, just like everybody has pushed for how many years to prosecute January 6th violators, take the same impetus and go against folks who fight this federal government to the letter of the law.

And say, if you're a sheriff and you don't allow them in your county jails, if you release folks that we have told you, ICIS told you, are in the country illegally, you have harbored, aided, and abetted.

And we've seen rogue police officers get put in jail for violating criminal statutes while on the job.

Well, that should pertain to everybody.

And then you've got the pocketbook.

All of these states, like California, receives over $160 billion in federal assistance.

Maybe not penalize students, but maybe you can turn around and say, hey, maybe some secondary education programs at the liberal universities aren't going to get money if you don't abide by federal law.

So it's quite simple.

I think they're going to be more creative than I am.

I hope so.

I hope so.

Randy, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

And thanks for all your writing at Breitbart and everything you've done

in your history there on the border.

God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

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I just want to go through some of the audio from this weekend.

Donald Trump was in France and he met with President Macron and kind of gave him a

kind of gave him a man's handshake.

Look at that.

And Macron's like, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

All righty, let go, let go.

They didn't get along before,

but

Macron had kind of a different attitude this time around, as seemingly everyone does.

Let me go to Trump on NBC with RFK, talking about RFK and child vaccines.

Listen to what he said.

Do you want to see childhood vaccines eliminated?

If they're dangerous for the children, look.

So possibly.

When you look at some of the problems, when you look at what's going on with disease and sickness in our country, something's wrong.

Are you talking about autism?

Well, if you take a look at autism, you go back 25 years, autism was almost non-existent.

It was, you know, one out of 100,000, and now it's close to one out of 100.

Well, I mean,

what's happening?

If they can find it.

Now, I did something the other night that was a little unusual.

At Mar-a-Lago, I called the drug companies, the top drug companies, and I called RFK Jr.

and Dr.

Oz and some of his people.

And I said, let's all get together and let's figure out where we're going because we're going to do a lot of things.

Number one, we're going to reduce prices because the middleman makes more money than the drug companies, in all fairness to the drug companies.

There's a middleman that nobody even knows who they are.

And you look at our drug prices, they're much higher than the prices for the same medicine, for the same stuff.

So

we met, and we met for a long time and we talked about pricing and we talked about vaccines, you know, in terms of what happens.

We talked about pesticides, we talked about everything

and I think a lot of good things are going to come from him and

he's

he's not going to upset any system.

He's not going to upset this.

He's not looking to you know to reinvent the wheel totally.

But when you look at the numbers, we really don't have a very healthy country.

Sir, going back 25 years, years, studies show that there is no link between vaccines and autism.

And yet it sounds like you are open to the possibility of him looking at

getting rid of that.

I think somebody has to find out.

If you go back 25 years ago, you had very little autism.

Now you have it.

Well, they say because they're better at identifying it.

What a bunch of people.

One in 100,000, and now it's one in 100.

That's a pretty bad number.

Childhood vaccines are not.

I mean, something is going on.

I don't know if it's vaccines.

Maybe it's chlorine in the water, right?

You know, people are looking at a lot of different things.

You know, it's amazing to me is how they're defending this.

And he's not saying he knows what it is.

And I'm sorry, we're better at diagnosing.

Did you know autistic people?

Did you know a lot of people

that were like autistic children now?

I didn't.

I don't think I knew any when I was growing up.

Better Better at counting them?

What a bunch of bullcrap that seems to be.

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Final hour.

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Let's do it.

Yeah.

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What?

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What's the reasoning for something like that?

Jerk.

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Oh, oh, oh, that's right.

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Thank you, Glenn.

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Yes.

This is what you're supposed to do if you're going to be.

Yeah, apparently so.

We're just supposed to reflexively go to NBC News whenever.

Thursdays are over.

Well, I thought they were too.

No, I mean, he has to do them, but.

No, well, does he?

Does he

do those?

Yeah, I think he should do a little of everything.

You know what I mean?

I think you shouldn't just go to podcasts.

That's what Barack Obama did.

Remember, and he was like doing interviews with, you know, who was that woman in the bathtub?

And you're like, okay, this is ridiculous.

You don't have to do the bathtub one, but I think

you should go on places where you know

adversarial.

Yeah, it's adversarial.

You're not going to get a good interview.

I think that's required as president.

I agree with that.

Just as president, not necessarily as a.

Even as a candidate, I think it's something you should do.

I mean, I think Kamala Harris should have done an adversarial interview during the campaign at some point, which she did not do.

She didn't do interviews.

I mean, she wasn't doing anything for a very long time.

And they

switched strategies, and it did not help.

In fact, it went the opposite direction.

No.

I do wonder, there is an alternate world what that election would have looked like if she just continued to do nothing.

I think it would have been closer.

I think if she never did an interview, it would have been closer.

I think you're right on that.

I think you're right.

The more

she spoke, the more you were like, oh, dear God, no.

No, don't do that.

Because I think they correctly

realized that there were a certain amount of people who

were very worried about a candidate that couldn't do an interview.

Right.

And so they tried to solve that by doing interviews.

And

what they should have done is just let those people go.

Like, realize they're not going to vote for you and hope.

Has anybody noticed, and I am biased because I've been talking to him off air

and watching him talk to a lot of people, you know, without cameras around.

And

his grasp on deep subjects has changed a great deal.

Have you noticed Donald Trump in interviews is not the same guy he was in 2020?

Yeah, I think that's true.

He certainly seems to be more focused and has a real plan as to what he's going to do as we know it's directly project 2025 which he commissioned we should remember of course no um yeah no it does seem like he

you you made the description i think it was last week which i has been sticking with me which is after 2020 he just spent four years just like this isn't going to happen to me again Like, I'm going to make sure these things, if I get a president, if I'm able to become president again, I'm not going to be hit by all of these.

I'm not going to be surprised every day.

Yeah, right.

And it seems like he's coming in.

He's ready.

Ready for that.

Yeah, he's ready.

The other thing that happened to him that I think has cut down all of his

slams and everything else, I mean, he still does, but

you'll notice he's not as crazy on things.

And I think that's what we mean crazy on things.

Just not as

worried about

name calling.

Okay, yeah.

You know what I mean?

He's not like that as much because I think he's,

you know, I think it really, this is just my speculation.

Put yourself in his shoes.

In 2014,

everybody on both sides loved him, right?

Maybe not as the president, but they

loved him.

Like everybody celebrity was

a great guy, and he's a philanthropist and he's done so much.

And then he gets in, and

everybody that were that were his friends

that knew him and knew what he was like,

they all of a sudden turned on him.

And I think that just took him by absolute surprise.

And he just kept, he had to keep punching and punching and punching and punching.

And I think now a couple of things have happened.

One, he just stopped caring.

Because you do care, no matter what anybody says, you do care.

He stopped caring.

And then I think when he was shot,

I think he found his purpose.

And I also think in the following months, he kind of became cool again.

He became the guy who could go on Saturday Night Live and make fun of himself.

You know what I mean?

And everybody would accept him.

He became kind of mainstream again.

And so I don't think he feels like he has to punch anymore.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah,

I have noticed a difference in him.

I mean, I think getting shot.

It was critical.

It was.

It was change.

Yeah, I mean, it has to change you, right?

And so he's going into this with a real plan.

And

one part of his plan, this is going to be clip four, is his plan to end birthright citizenship.

This is,

you know, obviously highly controversial.

Many people on the left do not like it at all.

They asked him about it on Meet the Press with, was it Wexler, Christine Wexler?

Yeah, somebody that nobody's ever heard of because everybody you have heard of has no credibility.

There you go.

You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one.

Is that still your plan?

Yeah, absolutely.

The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens.

Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action?

Maybe have to go back to the people, but we have to end it.

We're the only country that has it.

Through an executive action?

You know, we're the only country that has it.

Do you know?

If somebody sets a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need to, on our land, congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States of America.

Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous.

Through executive action?

Well, if we can, through executive action.

I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you.

We have to end it.

Okay, so notice what happened here.

She comes to the 14th.

Stu, tell me why the 14th Amendment was first written.

What is that really about?

I mean, am I wrong to say slavery?

No, slavery.

Okay.

It was written.

You looked at me like I was going to write it.

No, no, no.

No, no, no, no.

It was written for slavery.

It was written because

all citizens could vote and, you know, you have certain rights, blah, blah, blah.

And so the Southerners, the Democrats, said, well, they're not citizens.

They're not citizens.

They're from Africa.

So they can't vote.

Yeah, so they can't vote.

Okay.

If you you were born here, even if you were born a slave, you're a citizen.

That's what that was about.

That was not about

illegal immigration.

Come over here, get into a hospital, have a baby, and now, congratulations, everybody is a citizen.

That we are the only one that has it.

And the only reason we do have it is because of slavery.

It was a way to make sure the Democrats didn't just cut blacks out of the vote again.

That's what's so crazy.

And so notice she goes, he says,

we may have to go back to the people.

Can you just change that?

Well, no, it's a constitutional amendment.

So we may have to go back to the people.

He says that first.

Her immediate response is through executive action?

No, I just

said we may have to go back to the people.

There are several parts in this interview where she doesn't even, it doesn't seem like she's even listening to him.

But she's got this idea of what Donald Trump says in this moment, and she's like already acted it out with her producers multiple times.

So she's just not even listening.

Yes.

And I also.

That's why none of them have any credibility because there's not an honest exchange.

There is no honest questions.

He just said we may have to go.

He volunteered.

We may have to go back to the American people for that.

So you're suggesting that maybe it would be a constitutional amendment.

Well, yeah, I think we would have to do it.

I might, I might, if I get stuck, I might try to find a way to do it through executive action, but it is a constitutional amendment.

So, yes, that's an honest conversation.

Right.

That's not what she did.

No.

Do we have this clip handy again to play it again?

I want to see if you catch this one little bit in this.

This is a clip four again.

Listen to her verbiage of the 14th Amendment.

You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one.

Is that still your plan?

Yeah, absolutely.

The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens.

Can you get around the 14th?

Is that a quote?

All persons born in the United States are citizens.

That's what she said the 14th Amendment said.

So now that you asked me, I doubt it is.

Right.

But I don't.

Have you looked it up?

I haven't.

Okay.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States.

So she leaves that out, but not necessarily important to the conversation.

But the next part is,

comma,

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma,

are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

The whole 14th Amendment argument, and you might disagree with this part of it, is that that phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

means that illegal immigrants are not included.

Now, I...

Well, they're not subject to that jurisdiction.

So in other words,

well, if mom and baby...

Slaves would be.

Right, if mom and baby were here, then they would be subject to that jurisdiction.

But the family would not be because they're someplace else.

I think the argument, and again,

I wouldn't say I'm an expert on the 14th Amendment argument here.

I'm going to tell you.

I absolutely am so far away from an expert

that you might as well talk to a fisherman.

What I have heard is people make this argument before.

And the argument basically is

to be subject to that jurisdiction does not mean that you don't, you know, everyone, of course, has to follow the laws of a country that you

move into.

But to be subject of that jurisdiction means that you have to have a basis in the country.

So it's not like you just cross the border and, hey,

I'm now a subject of this jurisdiction.

You're a visitor, right?

Like, or in this case, a criminal crossing the border.

So you would not get necessarily those protections

of that 14th Amendment.

May I just say

the only thing I hate the founders for is their use of commas.

That's a good point.

Stop with the use of commas.

Could you please, for the love of Pete,

the right to keep and bear arms, comma, under

a well-run, regulated militia, comma, shall not be infringed.

Can you stop with the commas?

It makes it too complex now.

Stop with the commas.

It's very true.

But I mean, mean, I think

regardless of what you think about the argument of the 14th Amendment and people

who believe illegal immigrants would not be

grandfathered into that,

if it's foundational to the argument, why would you skip it?

Right.

Right?

Right.

You have to bring that up.

Could you do me a favor?

Do you have ChatGPT?

Yeah.

Or something like that.

Rock or something.

Type that in and ask what that means.

Sure.

We can see in here.

It'll take me a second, obviously.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

Do you want to go on to the next clip or do you want to stick to that?

Yeah, let's go to the next clip.

Okay, next one is on

Ukraine and what needs to happen with Ukraine.

This is, again, Trump on Meet the Press.

There are people being killed in that war at levels that nobody's ever seen before.

You have to go back to the Second World War, and even that,

if you take a look at, at, and you know what it is?

It's the soldiers largely.

The cities have been emptied out and demolished.

The country has been demolished.

If I won that election, which you know how I feel about it, I won't get into it because we don't need to start that argument.

I think it's an easy argument.

It was really proven even more conclusively by the win that I had on this one.

But

that's your opinion, but I disagree with it.

Had I

assumed, kept control, number one, Israel wouldn't have happened.

Number two, Ukraine would have never happened.

It would have never happened, Ukraine, Russia.

But the number of people that are being killed, soldiers, young, beautiful soldiers, hundreds of thousands of people are being killed.

And you know, it's very interesting.

It's level.

Totally level, the battlefields, totally level.

You know what's happening?

The only thing that stops a bullet, you know what it is, is a body, a human body.

And the people that are being killed, hundreds of thousands on both sides.

Russia's lost probably 500,000.

Ukraine's lost higher than they say, probably 400,000.

You're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies laying all over fields.

It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen, and it should have never been allowed to happen.

Biden should have been able to stop it.

Amen.

He's absolutely right.

And when

this is over and the body count is actually

revealed.

And when you see, and when you see BlackRock there rebuilding, when you see all of these friends of the Bidens rebuilding, when you see BlackRock owning the farmland,

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So

let's go to ChatGPT and just see what it says about the 14th Amendment and that particular phrase between commas.

And I will say our robot bettors seem to have summarized this the same way that I understood it.

Okay, so historically, the consensus among most legal scholars and historical practices has been the phrase excludes only a few categories.

This is the phrase of

not subject to the jurisdiction in the United States.

Those categories are children of foreign diplomats, enemy soldiers,

and some Native American tribes who maintain their tribal jurisdiction.

Legal precedent has largely supported the view that children born in the U.S.

to foreign citizens are indeed U.S.

citizens regardless of the immigration status of the parents.

Then, some conservatives argue subject to the jurisdiction thereof excludes individuals who are in the country illegally as they are not legally subject to the U.S.

jurisdiction in the same way as lawful residents or citizens.

They claim that because illegal immigrants have not entered the country and remained in it legally, that they or their children should not automatically receive citizenship.

That is my understanding of the debate.

And again, you can say you disagree with the conservative side of that debate.

Many do.

But to

actually skip the phrase that is important to the debate when talking to the man who's arguing the conservative side of that debate is

journalism malpractice at the very least.

And I think it's intentional.

I believe that it is intentional.

But I don't know.

No, wait.

I think it's NBC.

It's not intentional.

It's NBC.

It's just what we are.

It's just what they do.

Yes.

Of course it is.

And that's again, like it goes back to our original conversation as opposed to whether you go and meet the press or not.

Do you need to go to a place that's intentionally doing things like that?

I mean, and that is

inexcusable for the one phrase that's important to the debate, you leave out of the amendment.

I mean, it's obviously intentional.

I like the fact that the president was calm, cool, collected, didn't name call, went through that whole thing.

Wasn't a fair interview.

It was exactly what you would expect, but at least he went and talked to the other side.

I think it's worth doing to talk to the other side.

I think it's worth doing adversarial interviews.

I just wish you'd had a little honesty, I guess.

Like, I feel like when you went back on the show with Russert,

that's what you got.

Yes, yes.

It wasn't an interview you liked.

A lot of times he took things, I think, and took the Democratic side a little unfairly, but he wouldn't eliminate the part of the amendment that is the debate.

He would not have done that.

No.

And he would give you a, there were times that Russert, you'd be pissed off at him because it was your guy, but you'd also be cheering for the other side because he was fair.

He was even-handed.

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Well, the Daniel Penny

verdict has come out, and he has now been found

not guilty.

Yes.

Thank God.

Thank God there's some justice.

Now, what's weird is, first of all, the...

The judge,

I think, broke the law.

I think the judge and what's his name, the district attorney up there in New York, really, they should be disbarred.

What they did in this particular case was wrong.

When you have multiple counts and you're hung on the first count, you don't go to the second count.

You declare a mistrial.

But the judge, because of, is it Alvin Bragg?

He's the DA.

Yeah, the DA.

Alvin Bragg went and said, hey,

we we'll accept that they're hung on that.

Just have them consider the lesser charge.

Well, that's not the way it works.

You don't do that.

And he was just trying to get them to convict.

And somehow or another, they went back today with very little

time

and found him 12-0

not guilty, which is weird that they were hung.

On the

more serious charge.

And then somebody just, I think it's like, guys, it's Christmas.

I've got to go shopping.

Just all right, whatever.

I mean, honestly,

it might have been that.

I don't know why on the lesser charge, they didn't have a hard time.

Someone was sharing one of the courtroom drawings of the jury.

Yeah.

And

one of the people was wearing a mask.

And they were saying, this has to be the person who's holding this up.

It kind of does make sense.

I don't know if it's actually accurate.

Either that or it was the guy who shot the United Healthcare guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What a great place to hide out.

Yeah.

Hiding in the jury box.

But a fascinating thing, you know, not exactly a banner year for Alvin Bragg.

No.

He's at a rough one.

No, yeah.

You know, really an embarrassment in every single level.

I don't know why he has, why he's not being recalled.

I mean, other than it's New York.

Yeah, but even in California, they've been recalling these guys.

I mean, they've been defeating them in elections.

And

this approach of we only go after the good guys and let all the bad guys go is not an approach I think the American people are comfortable with.

No.

That's something I think

is a message being sent to the point.

I didn't know how the Good Samaritan law just didn't apply to him.

He obviously was not trying to kill the guy.

Obviously.

And they knew that.

You could see it in the interview afterward.

Right.

So

how did the Good Samaritan law not apply?

I don't know what version of New York has of that law precisely.

And obviously, I think.

Oh, it's probably good Samaritan law.

If you're a good Samaritan and you're trying to cause harm, but it's on a white person.

Yeah, I would not be surprised if that's exactly how it's written.

And you are somebody who is in any of the other categories, then it's...

That's how it's applied.

That is how it's applied.

Right.

And so.

By the way,

the threats are being issued now

after the jury finds him guilty and activists.

Not guilty.

Not guilty.

Yeah, not guilty.

And they are also activists are in the streets of New York right now protesting.

It's very difficult to even understand because some of the people who he was protecting on the subway were people of color, if you will.

Yeah, there wasn't, I don't think there was anyone on the subway that wasn't happy about it, too.

Right.

Everybody in the car were like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

They might not have been happy that he died.

And I don't think anyone was, including daniel penny right like but they they saw this as a clear legitimate threat to their well-being as they clarified in their testimony it was not yet another one of these crazy people on the subway if you've been in new york city and this is a weird i think it's a weird experience for anyone who's never lived there or worked there yeah as we have but like it's very much a normal part of your life to go on the subway and have a crazy person get on the subway and do something crazy while you're on the subway in an enclosed metal tube.

It is a weird experience and you get really used to kind of looking at your shoes and looking the other way and acting like this thing that would have been the story you told your friends every single day if you live in any other city.

You just ignore it and act like it's not happening.

I'm trying to remember the comedian that has a special happy face.

He's so funny and he talks about just getting on the subway in New York, just trying not to get high on crack.

He's like, somebody comes in into the subway and they're smoking crack.

And then somebody will be, hey, you can't do that in here.

Like, like the guy cares.

Oh my gosh, this is so unlike me.

I'm sorry.

There's, oh, there's a child here.

I'm so embarrassed.

And you just try not to get high on crack.

Right.

It always

reminded me of how gun-free zones were really stupid.

And that, like, the people who are coming to murder don't care about the gun-free zones.

The people who are coming to smoke crack on the subway don't care about your subway crack laws.

They don't care.

They don't care.

And so the people who were actually testifying in the trial made clear distinctions between that normal part of New York life of someone coming on the subway and acting a little crazy and maybe a little threatening and what this guy was doing, Neely, was doing.

They said they really believed they were in danger.

And I think that was the correct assumption.

He was saying he didn't care what the, you know, if he went to prison for life, he was going to kill people.

He was threatening them directly.

The fact that Daniel Penny stopped that, or God forbid, whatever it could have become, from happening means he should be treated as a hero, not as someone who's on trial.

And the fact that this came out right is

a good conciliatory prize, but not the right outcome.

Was it Bernie Goetz?

Who was the one that shot the guy on the subway?

Yeah, Bernie Goetz was one of them, man.

Bernie Goetz.

What happened to him?

He got off too, didn't he?

Yeah, if I remember correctly.

Isn't it weird that it's the same kind of out-of-control city where somebody is just, you know, everybody knows they're afraid on the subway.

Everybody knows crime is everywhere and nobody does anything.

And Bernard Goetz took a gun on the subway, shot a guy out of control, went through the same thing and was found innocent.

I believe.

And it was, it was, you know, more, I would say, more controversial, though.

This one.

Because he was carrying a gun.

Right.

And he was actually, he was, if I remember right, convicted of carrying an illegal firearm.

A firearm he was not supposed to have without a permit.

But that's all he was.

Right.

That's all he got.

In this case, this is quite clear.

And it's disturbing the way that he was interviewed.

He was interviewed as if the police were his friend and they were trying to suss all this out in a positive way.

I didn't like that at all.

You said a couple of things that stuck with me a couple of weeks ago.

You said,

I finally get the police are not your friends.

Don't talk to the police without your attorney.

Yeah.

I've always been like, you know, I don't know.

I've always had great interactions with police.

And I think that's still the norm.

It is.

But you don't know.

You don't know.

And, you know, popping in my head is Jeffy, Jeff Fisher, host of

a podcast here on Blaze,

the Blaze Podcast Network.

And he always says this.

He carries a card with him that gives you the outline of don't talk to the police.

They're, you know, they're not your friends.

He has a whole little six-step plan if you ever are talked to.

Is it written in crayon?

No, no, he didn't.

It's not his writing.

It's somebody else's card.

But, you know, he just has so much legal trouble that I think he has to have it with him at all times.

But I remember him showing that to me at one point and being like, all right, like.

In most interactions, it's totally fine to talk to the police.

After watching that with Penny, I was like, gosh, if you do something right, if God forbid you have to use your Second Amendment rights

in personal defense, I wouldn't say word one to the police, not because I don't think the police are trustworthy.

I think they are, but there's a system around it.

And frankly, you can't trust anybody.

And there's a system around it that will churn that into

something where you are a racist or you are, I don't know what they're going to say about you.

And the best thing is, just zip it.

If the government wants to get you, they will get you.

Yeah.

They will get you.

I think that's true.

They hold all of the cards.

Especially in a place like New York.

Oh my gosh.

Especially.

If you're a conservative living in New York,

I don't know how you do it.

I don't know why you do it.

Honestly.

You did it.

I did it.

Years ago, but you did it.

I mean, I don't think things were nearly as bad when you were there.

I don't think they were great.

You remember the process of trying to get a gun?

My life was at stake, you know, all the time.

I've had six security guys with me, you know, in in rotation all the time, sometimes all six of them.

And couldn't get a, couldn't get a, no, no, the judge just didn't think that it was necessary, that my threats were credible.

It's like, here's, you remember the end of Miracle on 34th Street?

I want that proof on my desk.

And they came in with all the bags of letters to Santa Claus.

That's kind of like the way I felt.

Like, oh, I can bring you the proof.

What are you talking about?

It's, it's insane.

Let me give you another movie that tells the same story.

It's a United Healthcare CEO walking to work.

Yeah.

You think you don't need some protection in that city?

This poor guy just walking to work with a wife and two kids just gets executed in the streets.

And most of the city seems to be cheering on the murderer.

And, you know,

in a world like that, you don't need protection in that city?

Of course you do.

There's a great, I think it's like a, it's like a flowchart in one of your books.

I can't remember which one it was.

It might have been Arguing with Idiots or it's one of the earlier ones.

It was for the guns?

It was for the guns of how to buy a gun in New York.

It was

I want to say it was Arguing with Idiots, but it was one of them.

In convenient book, maybe.

I don't remember.

I think it was an inconvenient book.

Okay, but you look.

Oh, you have one of them.

I have.

So he flipped through it.

But there is, if there's a gun chapter, it probably is in there.

But there is a flowchart of how to get one in New York.

And it was actually a person who was writing Goose Kevin who was a co-write author of the book who actually tried to do it and went through the entire process.

It is

insanity.

Insanity.

I mean, it's step after step after step after step.

It's submitting paperwork.

It's, you know, going back.

It's resubmitting it over and over and over again.

And it's like to the point where they know actually, in reality, what you're doing.

They know they're on the,

they should approve it, but they do everything they can to deny it.

Right.

It's similar to what they're accusing healthcare companies of, you know, where they exactly the same.

They just wear you out.

Yeah, they wear you out.

They just

until you're just like, okay, I don't, okay, I can't, I mean, who can do that?

Who can do that?

I will say, this is not a paid commercial.

Good time to think about a burn-a-launcher.

Yeah.

Because

that is legal in all 50 states.

Again, check your local laws just to begin with.

Sure, triple sure.

I know it's legal in states, but then I don't know if cities have, be sure, be careful, make sure you check.

But I mean, that is exactly the type of thing that the burn a launcher is doing.

This is something that i don't understand and again not a commercial i don't understand why those aren't in every schools in every school in america why aren't those in schools they're non-lethal non-lethal so you're not going to kill any of the children you might make some of them cry with tear gas you you don't even have to be a good shot you can just be near you could put your hand just outside the door and aim it down the hallway towards the guy who's shooting and is if you're within six feet that's going to stop him It's going to put him in tear gas and give everybody a chance to pile on that guy.

I just, I don't understand anything.

You're not going to kill any children.

Why wouldn't it?

It's almost as if somebody doesn't want to solve this.

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It's at least, yeah, it's a great part of it at the very least.

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The worst?

The best.

The best nine presidents

by random people.

First one.

What do you think it is?

Lincoln?

Washington?

No, last nine presidents.

Oh, of the last nine.

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Reagan?

Reagan.

Reagan is number one.

Number two.

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Clinton?

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Then George W.

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Then Jimmy Carter.

Then George H.

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Last.

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Wow.

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Ronald Reagan had 40% positive and 10% negative.

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Wow.

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Bill Clinton, 10% negative, 27% positive.

The rest of them are like 12 and 13.

George W.

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He's just, you know, plus one.

Jimmy Carter is zero.

Carter's a little too high on the list for my opinion.

Mine too.

Mine too.

He's got to be behind George H.W.

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I don't care.

I mean, that's not good.

The only one besides Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama that had over 30%

likability was Donald Trump.

45% negative, 30% positive.

That's going to change.

Yeah, I think that Nixon, 34% negative.

Joe Biden,

44%

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Wow.

Only 14%

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