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Thanksgiving week.

Have you noticed, though, that since Trump was elected, there's kind of a palpable positivity in the air right now.

I mean, excluding the psychos on the left who just think the world has ended.

With most Americans, I think they feel pretty good about things right now.

I think this Christmas season is going to be one of the biggest we've ever had.

As people are just more upbeat and more optimistic about the economy now, that there's some light at the end of the tunnel.

You know?

I

went to Costco and South Lake on the way home yesterday.

And that place is always busy.

Probably been there.

But it was

so packed with people you could barely move through the aisles.

Oh, really?

It was so full, in fact, that there was nowhere to park.

in the parking lot, which is approximately twice the size of Delaware.

Yes, I would say.

That is accurate.

But not a single place I wound up having to park in Albuquerque, New Mexico and walk the rest of the way.

Really?

Yeah.

Is that why I saw you walking on the side of the road?

Yeah, okay.

Thanks for not picking me up.

I got some exercise in.

I figured it was exercise.

It was.

All right, we got that and lots more.

Whoopbe actually, Woopy Goldberg actually shut down a little fear-mongering on the view?

Interesting.

Get into that and much more coming up in 60 seconds.

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Did you see that?

The Texas Department of Public Safety shared just a heartbreaking video yesterday or on Sunday

showing.

literally dozens and dozens of unaccompanied children at the border.

There was this one instance of a border agent talking to a two-year-old.

Look at this.

Video of it and audio.

It's a little bit hard to understand, but we'll walk you through it.

But check out this video of the two-year-old at the border alone.

Okay.

See?

Did you come to the bottom?

Yes.

How old are you?

Where's your parents?

Venezola.

Parolevada.

By yourself?

On the stand.

Okay.

Where are your mom and your dad?

In the United States.

Yes.

They're in the United States.

How

does that happen?

A two-year-old by herself?

Please, somebody explain this to me.

What adult says,

hey, you know what, hon?

Just go north until you run into a really big group of people and just walk with them across the border.

And then hopefully they'll find your mom and dad for you somewhere in the United States of America.

Good luck.

Walk safely.

And we should note the humanitarian side of the argument is the one that wants to allow that to happen.

Right.

Right.

We're the bad guys, the people who want to secure the border.

For separating families?

Well, here's families separating themselves and sending...

There were 60 kids in this particular group of unaccompanied children walking across the border.

60.

So who sent them?

How do you do that unsupervised?

What parent would ever be okay with that?

Yeah.

I wonder how.

I mean, just

logistically, how does that occur?

Are you trying to get your two-year-old to go anywhere?

Like,

you're just releasing them and go walk that way and hope?

What even happens?

It's incredible.

She's still alive.

Yeah.

And then, so now it's our responsibility.

And, you know, we're the bad people again, as you mentioned.

We're the bad people because we're separating families, supposedly.

Well,

yeah, you want to separate the kids from adults that you don't know anything about

because they could be sex traffickers.

They could be drug runners.

They could be child molesters.

You don't know who they are.

And so, yeah, they separate them while they try to figure out who the child belongs to.

And as a result, there's, what, 300,000 of them right now that we don't know to whom they belong.

But, I mean, what you're showing there is not a separation.

Not on our end.

Right.

They're the

same.

They're separated and they're showing up this way.

And this is happening more and more.

And, of course, it's incentivized by the policies.

Like, if you have a situation where someone shows up at the border without

a parent, we have to deal with it a certain way legally, and that

oftentimes leads to longer stays for the child and the parent in the United States.

None of this makes any sense, we should point out.

Sure doesn't.

It doesn't make any sense at all.

But that is the way this winds up working out for so many.

And, you know, look,

while you can be critical of people who come and cross the border, I mean, number one, a lot of it's just desperation, right?

Like, if you were going to do something with your child like that, you must be in this sort of desperate state that I can't even imagine.

Would you have to be to send your kids

across the Canadian border by themselves?

But I mean, there is a minimal, I think there's a floor.

Either that or your kid's really annoying.

It's possible that you just hate your kid.

But if you like your kid, there's probably some floor of desperation you'd have to feel to do something like that.

I mean, I guess if you thought they were going to die.

I guess.

I guess that would be it.

But of course, that wouldn't mean that you're already in the United States.

Like, if you got there, you should have brought them.

So, again,

there's no excuse, obviously, for this.

But there's no excuse for a country that encourages it and incentivizes it.

And while we can be critical

of the decision-making process that would lead you to do such a thing, these people are not idiots.

They know what the rules are.

Yeah.

And they're doing this for a reason.

They know we are incentivizing it.

They know that if the kids get there in one piece, then

we're going to take it upon ourselves to take care of them as best we can.

Yeah, they're probably there forever.

Yeah.

That's the likely outcome.

Now, look, maybe that changes in a couple months.

It's also the reason why it's happening at a higher amount right now.

These are all changes, by the way, all

totally avoidable.

Totally avoidable.

Could have been avoided this entire time

if

we took this stuff seriously.

Yeah.

And for administration, the administration.

Now, Trump obviously is signaling a big change there.

And there has been a change within the past six months to a year, which has improved the situation by basically adopting a bunch of Trump's policies that were canceled when Biden came into office.

This was an effort to win the election.

Hey,

maybe we should try doing something on the border.

What if we were to try a content like that?

Now, it didn't work for the election because people saw through it.

They said, okay, well, you can't just do this the last second and claim

that you care about this.

And I think in part, Greg Abbott is responsible for that by spreading this problem throughout the country,

by sending so many illegals to New York.

You're saying in a positive way.

Yes, in a positive way.

He woke people up because now every state's a border state.

It was kind of that way anyway, but he just exacerbated that problem and brought it to the forefront.

And so Democrat mayors and governors had to deal with it.

Whereas before, they just washed their hands of it.

We're not a border state.

We don't care.

That's Texas's problem.

It's California's problem.

Well, now it's everybody's problem.

How do you like it?

And they don't.

They're not fans.

No, they're not fans of it.

No.

And it was also

to a much lesser extent, Ron DeSantis, who did it in,

what was it, Martha's Vineyard?

Kind of a high-profile moment.

And also,

the other guy gets forgotten out of this is Doug Ducey, the former governor of Arizona, who also was doing this along with Abbott.

It was crucial.

It is.

Very rarely.

Do you see

large debates like that really get turned on their head?

And that action really did.

It did.

It made a difference.

It made a difference.

I think it made a huge difference.

You know, Pat, we've been this forever now.

And one of the first things I think I ever heard you talk about on the air was the border.

Like, I mean, going back decades now.

Yes.

That was probably the biggest change in the narrative, the understanding of the border that I can remember in one big moment.

Absolutely.

I remember when it started, I was like, yeah, this is an interesting, kind of like a stunt.

It felt like a stunt.

It felt like, oh, this is kind of something.

It'll draw a little attention to it.

It's a good way to make the point.

I think a lot of conservatives thought that way.

Yeah, I didn't think it was going to last to any

lead to any lasting change.

And it seems like it probably will.

I mean, obviously, I think this election partially turned on that.

I mean, I think in part, I think it did, yeah.

You think the border being like one of the top two or three issues, this is probably the biggest change in the understanding of the border.

And for most of the country, the border hasn't been one of the top issues

until

this program.

Until we woke up the Northeast to what the problem is.

And they don't like it.

And, you know, they don't like it.

It's interesting because, you know, Ducey was not the most

like, he was not the conservative superhero.

Like, he didn't make a lot of news when it came to.

In fact, a lot of conservatives didn't like him all that much.

Abbott is the same way in Texas.

When I talk to my friends from around the country, they think that's insane because they're like, wait a minute, our governor is Phil Murphy.

What are you talking about?

So there's a big change when it comes to, but I mean, Texas people look at Texas and want, they expect very high things, very high standards from their governor.

And at times they complain about Abbott.

Sometimes very bitterly.

Yes.

Yeah.

Really don't like him at times.

I mean, there's things he's done that I didn't like, but I think overall, he's been pretty good.

And just from that one thing, I think that they did get lost a little bit maybe in the election.

That was a big moment.

Yes.

That was a really big thing, and he deserves credit for it.

He does.

I mean, that was

a massive, a massive change in one of those like,

I don't know, concrete issues that never seems to move.

You know, another one would be school choice over the past few years.

That was one of those issues that I, I mean, it would bubbled up on conservative media, conservative think tanks for years and years and years and years and years.

We all talked about how important it would be for people to be able to make these decisions for themselves.

It would upend the public school craziness we were getting.

The teachers' unions would be affected negatively by it, which is why they fight it so hard.

And not to mention, it would help actual children with actual education.

And for years, that policy laid there and was sort of dormant.

People who are on the conservative side said they liked it, never really seemed to go anywhere.

Then, you know, people like Corey DeAngelis is one who's an activist in that area.

And you saw massive movement and states adopting it.

Now, a bunch of states have it and have made a real change with that.

And that's another one that has changed over just the past few years.

So at times we lose sight of all the positives that happen.

We do because we're beaten down with so much garbage and so many negatives that you do forget that no, things are improving on certain fronts.

And I think they're going to improve a lot starting January 20th.

But

one thing that goes completely unnoticed, too, is that Texas DPS, the Department of Public Safety, has rescued more than 900 children as part of this Operation Lone Star, where they're trying to get kids who are unaccompanied back together

with their parents.

That's such a tough job.

I mean, I don't even know where to start.

Obviously,

DPS does because they've been fairly successful at it.

But, I mean, they could be...

Their parents could be anywhere by now.

They could be in New York.

They could be in Miami.

They could be anywhere, really.

And so it's very hard to track them down.

And a lot of times they don't want to be found because they're afraid of deportation.

So it's a monumental job.

And hats off to them for actually getting it done somewhat successfully so far.

Pretty monumental task.

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Something kind of interesting happened on the view yesterday.

I don't know if common sense is starting to hit Wilby Goldberg.

Just maybe graze her a little bit because she's usually just so butt-stupid and wrong about everything.

We've talked about this.

I don't know how that show's even on the air.

Because if we were as wrong as they are about virtually every issue, made up the kinds of things they make up on a daily basis, lie about the kind of things they lie, we wouldn't have a show.

Just wouldn't get away with that on the right.

But yesterday, they were all worried, of course, about the Trump presidency.

And so they were arguing about it when Whoopi stepped in a bit.

So

I think what we're all saying is we're going to sit and watch.

We're going to wait and see because we can't do anything else except.

I'm not going to wait and see.

I mean, this guy is

a hypothetical.

What are you going to do?

What are you doing?

He's nothing to be done until you know what you're fighting.

It's pissing in the wind doesn't help.

You just get a whiff.

What I'm saying is I have no false expectations that at 78, he's going to all of a sudden

into any other human

being.

Oh my god, this is the most annoying thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

How is that on television?

How could that be allowed to be on broadcast television?

It's just a bunch of

the most annoying sounds I've ever heard in my life, all playing at once.

Is that really a show?

How could anyone watch that?

It's one of the great mysteries of life.

It honestly is.

It's the eighth wonder of the world how the view is still on the air.

What, 25,

how long is it?

25 years maybe?

It's been around forever.

It's like a bunch of cats being tortured.

I can't

all at the same time.

So what you're saying is you want to hear more of it.

That's what you're saying.

I spent weeks telling people that he was apocalyptic.

I'm not going to change now.

It's not still the same man.

I think that's why we lose credibility.

Well, here's the thing: you lose credibility in many different ways.

Wait, I don't think they have to worry about losing credibility when they don't have any in the first place.

Right.

Credibility was lost a long time ago.

If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of this.

Which is every day for you.

Then they're going to blow it back.

That's why I say we need to wait and see exactly what you're going to do.

Isn't that fun?

I don't know.

Isn't that fun?

I honestly don't know what happened in that clip.

I was so distracted by all of them talking over each other.

What happened?

Pat, can you explain that clip to me, please?

No, I can't.

I have no idea.

Whoopi, though, is trying to say, I'm going to wait and see.

He's the president.

Let's wait and see how he does.

And then we'll complain about the things.

Are you going to wait and see how Hitler does?

I know.

I mean, I think he's going to be able to do it.

That was Adam Navarro's point.

Yeah, it's such.

And I'm not surprised the point was in there.

I couldn't hear it.

But

what I will say is, look,

obviously they just didn't mean the Hitler stuff, I guess.

I mean, it has to be what this is.

You don't do this.

You don't

call someone Hitler for six months and then be like, well, let's see how he does.

It's the Joan Mika thing.

You don't bash him for seven years, eight years, and then say, all right, we're going to meet with him at Mar-a-Lago.

Huh.

Okay, isn't this the guy you said was Hitler and Mussolini and is going to round people up and put them in concentration camps and is going to completely shut you down?

Some interesting rumors about,

I don't know if we discussed this on Friday, but there's interesting rumors from the Puck report and

the UK Independent about why they took that meeting.

Why Joe and Mika did it?

Yeah, why Joe and Mika went to Mar-a-Lago to speak with Donald Trump.

Lack of any moral character?

Well, there's that.

Okay.

Yeah, there's that.

But supposedly, according to the Puck Report, they are concerned about an investigation being launched into the death of his intern clear back in the 90s when he was a congressman in Florida.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, gosh.

Yeah.

That's the story.

I remember that story.

It was very, very questionable, bizarre circumstances, I guess.

Weird.

Yeah.

She was a very young person, I think like 22, and fell on her desk or something and died.

Yeah, very strange circumstances.

No charges were ever brought.

But

I don't know.

Maybe they just don't want to be investigated because he doesn't want to come up again.

It could be something as simple as that.

Or maybe it's just not true.

Maybe that's not why they met with him.

Maybe they met with him because they want access to the presidency for the next four years.

I don't know.

But it is fascinating from this group of people that has been so psychotic about Donald Trump to see them now saying, well, let's wait and see.

Or to go and sit down with him and

try to make amends.

Again, you're making amends with Hitler.

Strange.

Strange and hypocritical.

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Maybe it's much too

early in the game.

But I thought I'd ask you just the same.

Glenn Stutter, Cheyenne Grace, with

Christmas album,

which is released Black Friday.

So, just a few days now, three days from now,

this will become available.

It's called Home For You Get Your Music.

Home for Christmas.

Home for Christmas.

Not Home for the Holidays.

Home for Christmas.

Excellent.

Triple 8 727B E C K.

That's really good.

Now what about you doing a little duet getting in there?

I mean, you've done some great songs on this, on this show,

the day after the election.

Have I ever?

You had a great one.

Right.

I remember Tim Walls.

I can't remember exactly what it rhymes with.

Yeah, me neither, but something.

Something.

It rhymed with something.

It did.

Yeah.

And you've done that many times.

In fact, a lot of big, and this is just a, I'm picking up on this trend now, but when conservatives tend to win elections, like you seem to release a new song almost always the day after

that way, but okay.

Yeah.

I would love to hear it.

Maybe you could release an album too.

This might be a new thing.

Yeah.

You know, maybe I'll wait till after the holidays because you don't want to compete with Cheyenne Grace.

But maybe shortly after, you know, because

it's going to sell so many copies that I don't know if there would be

money enough to buy other albums.

You know what I mean?

You're worried about shutting down the entire music.

Yeah, kind of.

Okay.

I don't want to get into Cheyenne's Way or Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift.

Yeah, she needs the money.

She does.

She really, you know, from what I understand, she's only a trillionaire.

Yeah.

She's not even a quadrillionaire yet, which is pretty embarrassing.

Yeah, pretty embarrassing.

I mean, she's worried about World Tour, she's not a quadrillionaire.

You've got to be worried that Travis is going to leave her,

you know,

just for financial reasons.

Do you listen to the

Kelsey podcast?

I hear clips and stuff.

I'm not an everyday.

I mean, I love Jason Kelsey as an Eagles fan, a legend in my life for many, many, many years before America knew who he was.

And so I love Jason Kelsey, but now he's everywhere all the time.

So I don't know.

But I do, you know, I'll check out clips and stuff.

I like them together.

They're funny.

And on a sports note, speaking of Jason Jason Kelsey and the Philadelphia Eagles, they're doing pretty well this year.

They are 9-2.

Don't point out.

I see Glenn would never do this.

No, is this.

I mean, is this the rest of the show?

Do you want me to launch into it?

I'm going to talk Saquon.

I'll do it all day.

Don't tempt me.

How many yards did he have?

Over 200, right?

255 rushing yards.

Wow.

302 total yards from scrimmage.

My God.

I mean, come on.

The guy's got to be the MVP of this league.

I don't care if he's not a quarterback.

Right now, he's the MVP.

Wow.

Wow.

He's been good.

What were the fantasy points he had?

He had over 60 fantasy points in our league, I think.

Yeah.

It's this week.

Are you the type of person that is

you're talking to your family, you're engaging with them, you're giving thanks for everything they've done in your life, or are you watching the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys in front of the TV while just shoveling down your third plate?

It'd be the latter.

Yeah, okay, me too.

It'd be the latter.

I mean, I love my family.

I love you.

I do too.

But once you get that food in you, because the beginning of the day, you're talking to everybody, you're catching up, you're getting all the details, you're going through the stuff.

But now football's on.

Well, then the food hits, at least in our schedule, the food hits.

Yeah.

And the game, that first game might be on.

You're kind of watching it a little bit.

And you're more focused on the game, but you're catching up still.

Then the food hits.

And then that food coma starts kicking in.

And then you're on the couch and you're watching that game.

And it's the, I mean, if it's not the greatest moment of the year, I don't know what it is.

I mean, you're just watching it.

It's pretty awesome.

Usually, not like this year, but usually some terrible Detroit Lions game where they're down by like 38 in the second quarter.

This year, they're going to be up by 38, probably in the second quarter.

Darn good team this year.

They're really good.

Jeez.

And it's kind of fun because,

you know, their quarterback was just discarded like so much garbage by the Rams and has really thrived in Detroit.

So it's been kind of fun.

You know what's not fun is Joy Reed at MSNBC.

No, no.

Why would you ruin a Thanksgiving?

No, I'm sorry.

But she and a guest are claiming here that Donald Trump is putting people in place who allow the military.

This has been kind of a theme the last few months: that he wants the military to be able to shoot civilians who protest.

I don't, I don't know when he made that vow because I missed that speech.

But man, are they hammering it?

It's bizarre.

But here's what she had to say.

And the thing is, you cannot drill, you can't say that enough.

And I want you to say more about that because you're talking about deploying the U.S.

military.

Remember, Mark Esper, who was Donald Trump's Secretary of Defense for a while, told him, no, you cannot shoot American citizens.

You can't have the military shoot American citizens.

He's going to replace people

in the Department of Defense with people who will say you can, and that you can deploy the military against protesters, that you can arrest journalists.

Remember that pledge?

Yeah.

Remember?

There's a pledge of allegiance to shooting Americans.

Shoot Americans.

Yeah.

Yeah, I remember that.

I actually was,

and people, like, it's easy to just blow off Joe Reed, obviously, because she's an idiot.

But, like, people really do get shot.

I was watching this one rally in Pennsylvania where this guy, he's on stage, he turns his head and gets shot.

He actually got shot in the ear.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And like, it was really, yeah.

And another man died.

Ooh.

Another one was sent to the hospital for a very long time.

Yeah.

And people do really get shot.

And it's interesting sometimes where the source of those things.

And sometimes I heard of one instance where some guy was laying in wait on a golf course.

Really?

Yeah.

For some guy to pass by and was ready to shoot him.

Oh, my God.

On the golf course.

On the golf course.

Yeah.

Weird.

Weird.

That's very, very strange.

I'm glad that Joy's out there looking out for the people who are doing those types of things because that would be wrong.

In my lifetime, I I have never seen or heard anything like the madness that's being vomited out by these psycho-leftists.

Yeah.

The only time in American history that I think compares to this is maybe the presidential election of 1800

between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

But it's so much worse now because of social media and modern technology where you're seeing it.

And it's so prevalent.

It permeates the whole society.

Everybody hears it.

Everybody's aware of it.

Everybody knows the accusation that's completely baseless and they just spread it.

They're talking about spreading misinformation and disinformation by the right.

How about what's been going on on the Donald Trump front for eight years now?

And it's always insane.

I find it to be really interesting, too, how that stuff.

seems to permeate society much quicker than like

an actual factual thing.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You know, like, I, you know, I mean, Project 2025 is a good example of this.

Like, I was shocked at the polling on Project 2025 about how many people were aware of it.

I mean, this is

a very

boring,

every four-year report that comes out of the Heritage Foundation.

Now, they don't call it Project 2025 every year.

They came up with a catchy name for it, but they do literally, this is what, there are dozens of think tanks in Washington, D.C.

that do the exact same thing every single four years.

They come up with a list of recommendations to present to the president and hope they'll do some of them.

That's all Project 2025 was.

Not all of those are right-wing think tanks.

No, many of them are left.

Many of them are left.

Yeah, if Kamala would have won, the Tites Foundation and

name all the names you know.

Was it 16?

What is the name of that project?

Not the 1619 project, but the other one.

16.

Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm talking about.

They dumped money into the Nebraska race to try to get the Independent to win their

name's slipping mind.

It's the same funding from the billionaires like George Soros.

They all will come up with their big ideas.

Like a few years ago, it was, hey, Joe Biden just got elected.

You know what we should do?

Defund the police.

You know what we should do?

We should

open up the borders.

We should pull out of Afghanistan with

reckless abandon.

Where do you think these ideas came from?

Like, I,

and that's not, it's not even nefarious.

I'm not even saying it's a bad thing.

Like, if you are a think tank, your job is to come up with ideas to present to people in power.

You know, like, I, and they're not bound by it?

No, they're just recommendations from Heritage Foundation has been around forever.

They've been doing this since the 80s.

And that was so bizarre because over and over and over again, he denounced it.

Oh, yeah.

I couldn't have been any more clear on the fact that he had nothing to do with it and didn't want to have anything to do with it.

No, even though a lot of the recommendations were awesome.

They're totally fine.

First of all,

the Heritage Foundation got totally screwed on this.

Yeah, they did.

And I guess it's their own fault for coming up with a catchy name.

But basically, they came up with a

it was a very good idea.

to be aggressive and prepare for what might be an incoming Trump administration, which they got.

And now the left is trying to stick to this narrative that they actually had this right all along

because one guy who wrote for Project 2025 got named to the cabinet.

And so every headline about him is like, oh, well, the guy who's running the budget, he was the guy who wrote a part of the Project 2025, which had like hundreds of authors, by the way.

It was hundreds of pages.

It was actually maybe even over a thousand pages, but it had

hundreds of contributors.

But of course, that's what you do.

That is,

it's like what the left did with Project 2025 was take something that everyone in power understands.

Think tanks exist.

They present ideas to an incoming president and tried to make it turn it into a horror movie for morons who

don't know how Washington works.

Right?

Like, hey, if we're the New York Times and we make it sound really scary, people will think this is the first time this has ever happened.

Right?

Like, oh my God, you know, it's like Mein Kampf is out there and like Hitler's going to put it into action.

And it's stuff like, we shouldn't federally fund abortion.

Okay, I mean, that's really, wow, a lot of

Hitler-esque.

Well, how Hitlerian can you be?

But I mean, that was something they did, and they did it successfully.

And I was shocked at how many people thought that was like the beginning and the end of an argument.

Oh, yeah, but Project 2025.

And

so,

give me something that's in it.

And then they would

without fail, if they knew anything about it, it was something they saw

on an Instagram post or something like that, where they had a list of a bunch of policies.

I did multiple shows on this where he went through and debunked all of them.

But they weren't even in Project 2025.

Now, there's a lot of stuff in there that liberals wouldn't like.

I mean, it is a conservative plan, but they didn't even use that stuff.

They just made up crap that's not even in there.

And I couldn't believe how fast that stuff permeates the public.

It's often much quicker than anything real people are making decisions on stuff that's totally fake you know i i i i i it's really frustrating

it's frustrating yes it is because you there's no any one anyway which is the miracle right which is yeah i mean that any one anyway yeah and i think look you can the american people while they they i think take in a lot of the social media stuff i don't necessarily think that's how they're making their decisions i think they're making decisions based on how their life feels right which it feels like for the last few years, it sucked.

And one more thing here, Pat, before we leave while I'm on this, this is not where I was going with this point, but who cares?

It's Thanksgiving week.

Who cares?

There is this

long-standing

idea that

the American people are going to miss out on this stuff.

They can be manipulated by the media, right?

Like they can be sucked in by the media.

The media will direct them in the appropriate way so they care about trans rights or

George Floyd or whatever thing they've decided to make the big news story of the day.

And I really think that this election was the most pure

real-world experiment ever run on whether the mainstream media still had that power.

Turns out they don't.

Which is an incredible relief.

Yeah.

Wow.

I mean,

they're still an influence.

Yeah.

There still can be a problem.

But they didn't make the difference here.

They couldn't do it.

They tried everything, Pat.

They sure did.

They ignored it.

They sure did.

They basically ignored the president getting shot on stage.

They made that go away almost immediately.

And then they tried to say he wasn't shot.

They tried to say he wasn't shot.

They promoted all sorts of crazy Hitler conspiracy theories.

They did everything they could to sink this guy, and it didn't work.

And I got to say, like, I don't know, in 1992 or 1988 or 2004, I don't know.

Like, they might have been able to do that.

They may have had that power.

I don't think it's there anymore.

And I think this is the first time they're waking up going, holy crap, we can't just do this when we want to anymore.

We can.

The American people are going to see through it.

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Yeah, I think that's really likely, don't you?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think there's just going to be piles of dead bodies everywhere.

Part of Project 2025.

That's right.

That was one of their main recommendations.

Main recommendations.

Just start shooting Americans in the streets.

What struck me as you were talking about it was I talked to David Harsani, who's an author, about his

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Yeah.

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There was a European who did pretty well betting on the election.

This is fun.

This is fun.

This is a friend.

By the way, the story has been rumored for a while.

You may have heard someone's betting a lot of money on the election on Trump, and he's moving the markets, and he is really confident.

This is the first time I've actually heard the story.

Jonah Sarah has this for the free press.

Amazing story.

On October 15th, three weeks before the presidential election, Ashley Gross heard that a Frenchman wanted to run a study with a firm where she works, YouGov.

This is the polling agency.

And you hear their

released results a lot.

They run polling all throughout the election.

In an email, a prospective client told the firm he wanted to poll the current U.S.

elections focused on three swing states, specifically Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, investigating the shy voter effects within the next seven days.

The faster, the better, he wrote.

Soon, Gross, the person who works at YouGov, the general manager for YouGov's scientific research unit, found herself in a Zoom meeting with the Frenchman where she agreed to conduct the polling he wanted.

What she went on to discover with her.

I wonder what that costs.

So as a private person, you can just call youGov and say, hey, I want to commission a poll.

Yeah, companies do this all the time.

So like you want market research like you'll call you can call you gov you if you have you're trying to understand a trend that might affect your business so it happens it's like in the thousands of dollars it's not millions okay it's not hundreds you know you might you could spend ten thousand on a poll pretty easily uh you really want high quality polling you can even go you know you spend more than that a lot more than that if you really want to it's hard to get high quality polling results these days and um you know it can yeah nobody wants to take polls yeah i mean their response rate at this point is less than one percent wow And so, you know, maybe we should go into this today because I discussed this last night.

But, like, think of how we always complain about pollsters.

Think of how hard it must be to project in the entire country of less than 1% of the people you call actually pay attention to you and take your call.

I don't want to.

Yeah, I don't know how you do it.

Anytime my cell phone says something about,

you know,

it's a scam kind of operation.

And it comes up on the

caller ID.

I'm not going to answer.

No.

And even if you get, like I've answered calls before,

you know, not knowing who it was, and it would be like, oh, we want to take a poll.

And my immediate assumption is it's actually some scam firm who wants to try to raise money from me.

Some political action group that's like,

we're asking a poll.

Do you think Donald Trump is good?

And you're like, well, I think he's good.

I must answer this poll and give you all my information.

Like, that's a very common scam, particularly online.

And then they tell you, what we need you to do is go to Walmart and get a gift card.

Yeah, yes, that can happen too, unfortunately.

So, yeah, I avoid every call because you're right.

A lot of them are just straight out scams or they're people trying to get your money.

Like, that's 99.

So, every once in a while, there's an actual pollster who calls and is trying to get actual results that is going to be part of a poll.

And I think conservatives are even less likely to want to answer, which is one of the reasons why it seems like lately conservatives have been undercounted in these polls.

So, this guy was like, well, I want to find out what it is.

What she went on to discover with her poll led him to place the single largest bet ever made on an election.

His wager that Donald Trump was going to win and win big.

The Frenchman, being interviewed for the first time by, I believe, anybody, said, I had conviction, the high rolling whale told the reporter over the phone last week.

So I bet a lot of money.

Well, that's what you should do, I suppose.

Wasn't it?

It sounds like it was.

I remember the number 26 million.

I'm not positive, but I think he invested 26 million.

Yes, Yes, that's what I heard too.

Yeah.

So

this is kind of an interesting story about why this guy had

this

confidence.

Because

I study this stuff every day.

Lots of people do.

People in the campaigns do.

None of them were.

particularly certain about what was going to happen, right?

And especially in these swing states that had all had election polls.

And you can look back at the results of those states.

It feels a little bit like a blowout.

Someone called it like a very controlled landslide.

Yeah.

Right.

Because,

I mean, you know, Trump needed to win one of those three blue wall states.

The biggest blowout of those three states was 1.7 points.

That was the biggest blowout of the states he needed to win.

So not really a blowout.

It was a close election, even though Trump was able to sweep those seven states.

In our conversations by phone and mail, I discovered that the Frenchman was a traitor who wanted to go by the pseudonym Theo because he said disclosing his identity would disrupt my life as my family and friends are not aware of the extent of my wealth.

God, I want to say that sentence at some point.

My family and friends are not aware at the extent of my wealth.

That is a, wow, I want a shirt made with that.

That's fantastic.

And you know, I don't have that much wealth if I want a shirt made with that on it, right?

But that's fantastic.

He said it was also endanger my safety and that of my kids, which is probably true if you're making this kind of money.

So So back in October,

he was told that it was extremely difficult to gauge the preferences of shy voters.

They looked into it.

They got the results of this poll, and he had wagered already before he got the results of this poll, $30 million on the election.

He wound up upping it after getting the results of the poll to $80 million.

Now, for all the people who say, oh, you can't believe the polls,

I mean, there's some argument here to say maybe you can in certain certain circumstances because he bet an extra $50 million on this, wound up bringing home a total of $85 million in profit off of Donald Trump's victory.

Now, the way these things work, there's a bunch of these markets out there, prediction markets.

We use them as part of the pulse cast that we put together for this election cycle.

The Polymarket is the one he was using.

Polymarket is a cryptocurrency exchange, a cryptocurrency betting market that you can go and put an unlimited amount of money on anything.

And

all sorts of different contracts, and it's all done through crypto.

It is not regulated in the United States,

so you can't even bet on it if you're in the U.S.

There is an exchange in the U.S.

called Calci that just got approval for election betting like a month before the election.

So they were like, they, you know, they went really fast to get everything on.

They have a million different types of things you can bet on or invest in.

Or hedge your business.

You know, like there's a lot of different things.

Their maximum bet, I think, is $100 million on any specific thing.

So, I mean, pretty much unlimited as well.

That is, these things are coming and they're going to be a big part of our economy because it is,

you know, forever.

Like, you know, you could talk about, you could bet unlimited amounts on grain futures and no one cares, right?

What about things that maybe you or I know something about?

You know, I mean, obviously,

sports betting is something that is, you know, seen more as gambling, where, like, you're talking about this stuff, like, you know,

you do deep polling on an election that other people don't have.

You probably have an advantage to

predict who's going to win.

And that's what this guy did, won $85 million.

I love that story.

I love stuff like that.

Yeah.

85.

That'd be nice.

That'd be sweet.

It'd be a great movie.

Of course, you had a lot of money to begin with to risk.

Right.

Which is.

That is one of the things.

You know, it is easy.

One of the reasons you try to get wealthy, Pat,

is something that I've learned over the years.

The more money you have, the more money you can make.

This is why one of the main reasons you do it and you don't spend it all on prostitutes, right?

Like,

you try to keep the money.

It's a good segue.

Again, there's multiple reasons on the prostitute thing, but

you try to get your money, you keep your money, you invest your money, and you're able to make more money, and you maybe can work less, or you can give money away to charities that you appreciate.

You can can buy lots of kexie cookies at kexie.com for the holidays.

You can do all sorts of great things.

Yes, you can also buy yachts.

You can buy lots of fancy stuff.

That's great.

You also can give it to your children and they can give them an easier life.

Like all these, there's a lot of reasons to try to get money.

And it's always vilified by the media.

Oh, you selfish bastards.

All they want to do.

Yeah, well, you know,

of course,

being selfish has a bad rep.

You know, there's a book by Ayn Rand called The Virtue of Selfishness, and

it sort of acknowledges the,

if you define selfishness the right way, it sort of acknowledges such a truth, which is you kind of have to like be responsible for your own actions and your own financial security and your own, the security of your family.

That's part of being a human being.

That doesn't mean the bad parts of selfishness, which is, you know, you know, only interest in yourself and at the expense of others.

That's not really what we're talking about here.

But you do have to actually, you know, take responsibility for your own life.

Like, I mean,

I just,

the left loves to manipulate that and to make it seem like it's a bad thing.

Well, no, you've got to be able to take care of yourself.

That's why they don't like capitalism.

Yeah.

Because there's something in it for people.

Well, and I guess they think there shouldn't be.

You know, you should be altruistic completely and not worry about yourself, Just worry about others.

Not them.

They shouldn't be.

Right.

But you.

You should be that way.

You're the one that should be altruistic to their causes.

Yes.

Like you should be giving all of your money to, I don't know, trans rights or something.

Yeah.

So you can do that.

That's what they want you to do.

But not them.

Not them.

No.

They've got

Hollywood events to attend.

And those are important.

Let's go to Michelle in Pennsylvania.

Hey, Michelle, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Patton Stu.

Hi there.

Hey.

Hey, you were discussing that poor little two-year-old and how they'll find her parents.

It's probably worse than you can imagine.

I worked in a local jail for many years, and we didn't track immigration status, and we weren't given that information.

We would manually pull up a daily commitment and either fax it to the ICE office or email it to a list of field agents.

And if they suspected someone, they would send a field agent from two hours away to come and do that interview, which is insane in 2024.

We need an Elon Vivek Tom Homan tech answer to this gaping hole so you know who's reporting, not reporting, can't report, or refusing to report.

And if we don't seriously track the ones we've had in custody, they're never going to find her parents.

Yeah, that's heartbreaking.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

Appreciate it, Michelle.

Thanks.

I know we don't love the idea of government tracking typically.

Like that's not the conservative approach to things.

But, like, as a price to pay for being an illegal immigrant, certainly

it's not something I oppose.

Right.

It should be a disincentive for coming illegally.

And if you do come here illegally and we are unable for whatever legal reason, and there are sometimes struggles with this, to immediately deport you, that is absolutely something we should be doing.

Butch in South Carolina, welcome.

Hey, Pat Stu, I had an elimination for y'all for this whole political thing is I've listened to y'all when y'all were in Florida, and you should have done a Kamala Harris moron trivia.

I would have went with a convenience store worker on that one.

Yeah, because that was our plan.

If we ever got her on the air for an interview, just ask her really basic questions about the country and see if she can answer any of them.

You know, she wouldn't have been able to.

No.

She

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Let's go to Ray in Arizona.

Hey, Ray, you're on the Club Deck program.

Hey, how's it going, Stu, Pat?

I've listened to you guys for a long time.

Glad you took my call.

Really quickly, you know how every year the presidential pardons, you know, a turkey for Thanksgiving.

Well, this year...

This year, what are the chances Biden's going to start a new tradition by pardoning the turkey and the hunter?

I mean, I could see it happening.

I could see it happening.

A lot of people appreciate the call, Ray.

A lot of people think that there was some kind of deal arranged between the two of them where they would pardon each other's

interests.

Like, for instance,

Biden would pardon Trump before he leaves, and then Trump would pardon Hunter because Biden said he wasn't going to.

pardon his son.

No way.

You don't think so?

No way.

There's been some some speculation about that.

I can't imagine.

Can you imagine?

Imagine the amount of trust Joe Biden would have to have to have in that situation.

Right, because he'd have to make the first move.

Right.

I could see Biden, I mean, I could see, honestly, like, if I were Biden, I would think about pardoning Trump, not because it's like this moment of like altruism, but in a moment of like, you know, like almost like,

you know, it would give you that some people would make it feel like it was altruistic, but in reality, I think it it would be like just drawing attention to this guy who you say committed crimes, right?

Like,

I'm above this.

I'm just going to pardon the guy.

Now, that makes no sense.

You were the one going after him in the first place.

Like, it's insane.

But, and then if you paired that with Hunter, maybe you take the sting off of the Hunter part of it.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

Well, that could happen too.

Could.

But it would be, what a great way for the nation to heal if he would do that.

You know i i don't think he's interested in that necessarily but i think it would be a healing mechanism you would see you'd take that positively i i think i would take it as if he pardoned trump yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't you wouldn't no i mean trump's already out of this stuff he's yeah you know i yeah

it's obviously over anyway yeah jack smith if you hadn't heard uh jack smith did he he dropped the charges dropped the charges but we all knew that was coming yeah and they did do it in a way that theoretically they could bring it up later but it would be past the statute of limitations on a lot of it anyway.

I mean, I just, I think at this point, it would be something they would be doing for nefarious purposes.

Yeah, and I think that's pretty much why they do everything for nefarious purposes.

Yes.

That's usually a good summary.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

All right.

Let's go to Patty in Connecticut.

Hey, Patty, you're on the Glen Beck program with Patton Stu.

Thank you for taking my call, and happy Thanksgiving to you and your families.

You know, a little earlier, we had talked about the view, and I believe it was Joy who talked about President Trump and the direction that the military could use lethal force against Americans.

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We were talking, Pat, a little bit about the polls last hour, or last half hour

and

how they did.

And like, actually, the pollsters?

The pollsters, yeah.

Like, you know, I think they're

all the time.

They're not bad, right?

Just tell them people always complain about the polls.

And like, because it's part of my job to go through them all the time, they often complain to me about them.

When it comes to November every four years, about 85% of the conversations I have

are

revolving around polls and whether they are good or bad or whether we should listen to them or not.

And I'm always convinced of the passion of the people who think we shouldn't listen to them.

Like, okay, like, then don't.

I don't know what to tell you.

Like, you don't have to.

No one's required to take them.

You don't have to listen to them.

It doesn't have to be part of your life at all if you don't want it to be.

But I think people do like to know, kind of like a, it's like a line going into a

football game.

Like, you know, you don't, you don't need to know the line to enjoy the Super Bowl.

Hey, you know, this team's favored by four points.

You don't need to know that.

But it's interesting to know where these teams kind of set up and what we think might happen.

BYU was in an underdog this year in almost every game they played.

They started out 9-0.

And they were an underdog in all, but I think

one of those games.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gosh.

I knew they were undefeated.

I did not realize that.

And it got to the point where I looked forward to them being the underdog because it was really firing them up.

So they're wrong sometimes.

Most of the time.

Most of the time.

But these particular pollsters turned out not to be.

Yeah.

Well, let me give you a setup for this first about how angry people get at polls.

This clip is from the day after the election,

I think, or it was the night of the election, but it was Jon Stewart talking about polls.

Listen.

Ladies and gentlemen,

welcome back to The Daily Show.

We don't, it it hasn't been completely called yet.

We don't exactly know what all the results are going to be.

Our time is running out.

I do want to very quickly

send a quick message to all the pollsters, the election pollsters.

I don't

ever want to

from you again, ever.

I don't ever want to hear, we've corrected to the connections.

You don't know s

about

and I

don't care for you.

There you go.

John Story.

Now, first of all, one thing, and we've noted this before, Pat, the entirety of the comedy of that clip is just him swearing.

Yeah.

There's not even an attempt at anything other than that.

He's just swearing over and over again.

Which is not hard to do.

No.

You know?

Like, this guy is supposed to be the most skilled comedian of ours.

He He makes 10 or 15 million for doing one show a week.

And

that's what he just did to get laughs.

Now part of this said the F-word several times.

Part of this is jealousy.

I'm very jealous of a person that could do one show a week and get, I mean, I'm jealous of Rachel Maddow.

I would love to be able to do one show a week and make $20 million for it.

$25, in her case, $30 million until this year.

But again, like

the anger.

Like, okay, why?

What?

Did the pollsters really get this that wrong?

I think a lot of this comes down to the one singular poll from iowa from ann selzer yeah which was way off way off i mean it was i mean it was it basically destroyed her career let's be honest about it and it should because she had kamala up by up by 13 right no up by three and trump one by 13.

so it was a 16 point miss is probably where you're remembering that is what i'm yes 16 point miss and she was sort of like the the gold standard polling darling of a lot of the polling nerds.

So she was promoted very heavily.

She's the one that does this right.

The Des Moines Register.

Right.

Des Moines Register.

They run her poll, and the other paper in Des Moines said, hey,

we will shut down our operation if that turns out to be true.

That's how confident they were that it was a screwy poll.

And they were right.

It was.

And by the way, her previous poll was almost as bad.

It was Trump plus four, which, I mean,

you get less

problem from people when you get the overall result correct, even if you miss by a lot.

People are usually pretty forgiving over that one.

But still, that would have been a terrible miss, too.

He won by 13.

So

that poll is going to be the thing that's remembered, I think, from this.

And if you go back to like 2016, people still talk about there's one poll in Wisconsin that had like Hillary Clinton up by like 14 or 16, and she wound up losing it.

And people still remember that one poll.

But like, when you look at the polls overall,

they did kind of fine.

Yeah.

Like,

let me give you the

real clear politics averages for all of these states going into the election.

This is the final averages from Real Clear Politics.

Arizona had Real Clear Politics average Trump plus 2.8.

The final was Trump plus 5.

So missed by a couple points, but the correct winner

within the margin of error.

Let's go with Nevada.

Nevada had Trump plus 0.6 points.

Actual was Trump plus 4.

So

a little over 2 points off.

I mean, you're borderline on the margin of error there, but the correct result.

Then Georgia.

Georgia had Trump plus 1.3,

and the actual was Trump plus 2.

Oh, that's really close.

So less than a point miss and the correct winner.

Next up, North Carolina, Trump plus 1.2 points on the Real Clear Politics Average.

Actual, Trump plus 3.

So slight miss, less than two points, well within the margin of of error, got the winner correct.

Then we go to the blue wall states.

Pennsylvania, Trump plus 0.4 points.

The actual, Trump plus 1.7.

Close.

So 1.3%

miss, but not by much.

Next up, you have Michigan.

Harris plus 0.5.

Actual was Trump plus 1.4.

So that is the first state that they got wrong as far as winner.

But again, the miss there was 1.9 percentage points.

And it's like, well, I mean, it's within the margin of error.

It missed by a couple of points.

And then finally was Wisconsin.

Trump plus 1.2 was the prediction or the clear politics average.

The actual was Trump plus 0.9.

So in that one,

they missed by only 0.3 points.

And the mistake actually went in Harris's favor in that one.

She did a little bit better than the average.

All the other ones were slight mistakes,

slight overestimation of Harris, maybe, but generally speaking, pretty darn accurate.

Got six of the seven states correct.

All of them were generally speaking thought of to be toss-up states.

These are the swing states everyone was talking about.

Got six of seven right.

And the maximum miss was like three points.

Most of them were within two.

I think like one of the things we have to consider here is if we expect more out of polls than that, we're probably the problem, not the polls.

These are not, this is not cress skin.

Yeah, they're not going to tell you every single detail.

They're not going to tell you what every, every single person, how they vote.

That's a pretty good record.

They did pretty well.

And, you know, I think a lot of times we look at this and we're like, oh, well, we won't, like the Harris, Michigan one where they called Harris plus 0.5.

To us, them predicting the wrong victor is the story.

You know, we can say, okay, well, they said Harris is going to win and Trump actually won.

But in reality, a 1.9% polling miss

when you have less than 1% of people who respond to these polls is actually incredible.

Like the fact that they could stake, I mean, the average miss here is less than like a point and a half.

That is really impressive.

And I mean, it's easy for us to say it's impressive when our guy won, right?

Like it's easy to say, okay, well, it's easy to be, you could see Jon Stewart there, who, you know, again, I am not exactly overwhelmed by his comedic efforts in that particular segment, but the anger is real.

He's mad because he thought he was going to win.

He thought his guy was going to win.

He thought Hitler wasn't going to get elected.

And that's why a lot of times I think what we saw in,

you know, 2020 in particular, people got angry at polls when the polls said Biden was going to win and, you know,

Biden wound up becoming president.

So people were angry at that result and got angry and kind of spread that along to pollsters.

But, I mean, if you look back at the pollsters' record, they missed in 2016 and they missed in 2020.

And both of those were pretty big misses.

I think you can look back and say, okay, 2016, you've got Donald Trump for the first time running.

He's a guy who was a reality show host a couple of years earlier.

He's a totally unique figure in our politics.

I'm not shocked they missed that one, honestly.

Like, it was,

I don't think it was crazy for them to miss that one.

And then 2020, I mean, we,

they called Biden winning, and of course he became president.

The miss was actually worse in 2020 than it was in 2016 when it comes to actual raw numbers.

Like they, they missed on some of those blue wall states pretty badly, but because they had Biden up by eight and he won by one, they kind of skated a little bit on the on that miss.

But they missed pretty badly in 2020 as well.

You know, the country's locked down at that point, at least Democrats are.

Half the country is still at home at that point.

They're not leaving.

There was a big issue with calling Democrats who were at home taking phone calls when Republicans were out actually living their lives when those election polls were being taken.

It was a very weird time.

You wouldn't be shocked that they missed in 2020 or 2016.

They were very unique circumstances, but they did very well in 2012, did very well in 2014, did very well in 2018, did very well in 2022, and very well in 2024.

Like for an an industry that takes a beating as if they're like

the tobacco companies of like the 1960s,

frankly, like considering all the limitations, the cost, how difficult this is to do,

they did totally fine.

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When did Piers Morgan become somewhat, I don't know, at least conservative friendly?

I remember him on CNN and us playing clips from him on a fairly regular basis.

Oh, yeah.

He was as dumb as dirt, just butt stupid on virtually every topic.

Particularly the Second Amendment.

Yes.

It's the gun thing that probably set us off most, but he seemed like he was liberal on almost everything.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, he said Glenn on a bunch of times recently.

That's really something.

Yeah, and I don't know.

Didn't he go through some like, I don't want to say scandal?

I don't think that's necessarily the right word, but like, was it a firing or didn't he go through something like that?

I feel like that's the path to conservatism

is all the liberals no longer like you.

That's usually what happens.

So I don't mean to be overly skeptical of peers there, but I do remember something.

But something, there was something.

Yeah.

I don't remember exactly what.

Was it that he was sort of sane on COVID, maybe?

Maybe.

And like they just,

like, that's what I, one of the the things that happened with Elon Musk.

Yeah, right?

They were like, no, you can't open your factory.

And he was like, I'm opening my factory.

And I think that was one of the things that started off his transition.

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Kind of a big one, Pat.

Yeah.

It is America's largest employer, right?

A private employer.

I think so, yeah.

Walmart.

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I actually really like the way this story is working out.

Yeah.

You know, because it's amazing.

Sure, it's fun to say, we're never going to go to Walmart and we're never going to buy Bud Light and we're never going to do another Disney movie and all that.

But like actually solving the problem is.

It's actually not fun.

I don't enjoy doing that.

That's true, I don't either.

I mean,

I like some of those places, you know?

Yeah.

And I don't want to necessarily boycott.

That's not what we do on the right normally.

You're not a Bud Light guy.

You're more of a Schlitz-light

guy.

Yeah.

Huge Schlitz guy.

Has always been

my go-to beverage.

But, you know, Disney, I know, you know,

you're not quite as crazy as Glenn when it comes to the Disney stuff, but I appreciate some Disney products.

They do put out a lot of good entertainment.

Maybe a lot that isn't good, but a lot that is.

And then, you know, know, Bud Light's another example of this.

And you know what?

Bud Light was the least egregious, I think, of all these companies.

I never thought that was as

it bothered me a little bit, but I've never thought that was as big a deal as others.

I said the same thing at the time.

Bud Light wasn't great.

I'm not saying what they did was great, but like they didn't like put it, put Dylan Mulvaney as like the central piece of their advertising.

They sent

the dude a bottle with his face on it.

And is that stupid?

Is it kind of like

it's annoying and pandering?

And that's what it was.

Yeah, which is irritating.

But like, the reason why I didn't think it was nearly as egregious as some of the other examples, like, for example, Disney we've talked about, is they were targeting kids.

Yeah.

They were advertising a product that is only legal to be consumed by adults.

And the most egregious part of the Bud Light situation was What's Her Face, the marketing person, Haver Schneider, whatever her name was.

Saying insultingly about their customers that they were,

she essentially said that they were backward and we needed to move on and we need to be better and more woke.

And that, so her take on that was irritating.

Yeah, it just, I, but they got rid of her.

The fact that they weren't targeting kids with it was a

good line.

Yeah.

But they got rid of her almost immediately.

They were like,

get Peyton Manning on the air.

Shane Gillis.

Where's Shane Gillis?

Yes.

Like every single person any conservative has ever liked is now part of the Bud Light campaign.

Let's get some chicks and bikinis on the ice.

Something.

Anything.

And I do think

there are some,

and this is another separation point between Bud Light and, let's say, a Disney or, you know, I don't know,

what's the stupid ice cream, Ben and Jerry's or something, or, you know, Patagonia or one of these, like, like, those are liberal companies.

Committed to it.

Right.

Liberal companies that also do other things like sell ice cream.

Yeah.

Right.

Yes.

You know, Bud Light is a beer company, a company that wants to get your money.

They are a good capitalist company, generally speaking, that

misled themselves into thinking it was good capitalism to

hang out with Dylan Mulvaney.

And they got hit hard.

And they got hit hard and punished for it.

Really hard.

And like, I'm kind of over punishing them.

Like, whatever.

Like, I, like, if, because I remember when all this Bud Light stuff was happening, I was over at a friend's house.

They had a little gathering.

It It was maybe 10 of us there.

And, you know, they ordered some food, some DoorDash or Uber Eats or something came in.

Everyone's eating.

They're, you know, pulling out drinks.

And they're like, what do you guys want?

You know, you guys want a beer?

You want a wine?

A seltzer.

What do you want?

And people were, he's like, I've got this.

And he's pulling out all this stuff.

I've got a ying ling.

I've got all this.

And he pulls it down.

Yeah, I got a bud.

And like, he stopped in the middle of saying it.

And everyone just goes, oh,

like it was like a, you know, everyone's busting on him for even having.

He's like, this is old.

I had it.

it's It was

been in here for a while and it that is a death knell for a company

when you're having a gathering of friends that are like I don't want to even be seen having a button light that is madly something at the same time I went to a wedding and

They had the same situation where they had like a but you know you have a bunch of beers at the bar and people go there they had like Coors light and Miller light and Bud Light and all the Bud Lights were still there

No, no one was taking them.

No one wanted to walk around the wedding holding the Bud Light.

And, like, you know, again, I thought the punishment was not necessarily fit to the crime

in that particular case, though it did send a very powerful message and a very important message to a lot of these companies who, unless they're ideologically leftist, like Disney seems to be right now,

and they prioritize having, you know,

lesbian vampires instead of telling a story about Star Wars you know if they are the ones that are you know making what's the movie that's coming out

with the the actress who just keeps saying more and more insane woke things in the press seven snow white they're doing the snow white reboot or whatever and it's so crazy but like they're more dedicated to that than making money yeah they're more dedicated to that than entertaining your kids or having a message their dedication is not even the craft of the product product.

It is trying to push a left-wing message.

They deserve what Bud Light got.

Yeah.

And more.

Being done to them.

And more.

And more.

And Bud Light, I just feel like, is, you know, okay, they've done that.

But now Walmart, who again is obviously a company that has to connect with people in the middle of the country, lots of conservatives, you know, it is a capitalist institution.

One of the most amazing things capitalism's ever produced, frankly.

I mean, when I walk into a Walmart, a lot of, you know, some people are like, oh, I can't believe this.

You know, this is commercialism.

Some people get angry at like, oh, well, a lot of this stuff isn't made in America.

Like, there's all sorts of complaints about Walmart.

They're not paying their people enough.

What I look at it is just a freaking miracle.

Honestly, like, I walk into that place.

I'm like, can you

imagine the amount of effort from people all over the world?

None of them know each other.

Most of them don't know how to actually make the entire product they're making.

I mean, this is a little bit of an eye pencil type of rant, but it's like, how does this even happen?

How do all these products get into the same place in the middle of like my town?

Yeah.

And it's all affordable

and open 24 hours.

And like,

it's incredible to me.

Like, I think it's a legitimate miracle that these places even exist.

Like, I am not an anti-big box store guy at all.

I think it's incredible that this stuff even occurs in the world.

Think about this.

Most of human history had been filled with people starving to death all over the place all the time.

And now you can walk into Walmart and get like fully cooked meals for like 18 cents.

I don't, I think it's incredible.

Yeah, one of the big knocks on Walmart is that so many of the shoppers there are overfed.

I've noticed.

Right.

Like now we have this big thing about you can't have processed foods.

Yeah.

And like what are processed foods really?

Like obviously every food, you know, every food at some level is processed.

This is kind of a stupid word, honestly.

Because I got news for you.

If you're cooking something, you've processed it.

You know what I mean?

Like, unless you're pulling it off of a tree, most likely it's been processed in some way.

But, like, the real reason that processed foods can be a problem for people is because they're calorie dense.

They're cheap and calorie dense.

And so, you know, they're not, they're delicious a lot of times.

They're calorie dense.

They're cheap.

And

you can eat, you can go through a lot of them without a lot of effort.

And all those other things around what we call processed foods are what typically wind up being the issue with it and why a lot of people look a little overfed at Walmart.

All this to say, by the way, that like I want to like Walmart.

You know,

I want them to be on America's team.

I want it to be a story of

Salton was spinning in his grave with the things that they've been doing.

Yeah.

Same, you know, with Walt Disney, with Disney product.

Oh, definitely.

I mean, that's insanity.

But the good news is, there are other companies coming around too and seeing light.

Ford, for instance.

Yes.

They have stopped participating in external culture surveys, such as the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index.

This is a big one.

And this is part of Walmart's effort as well.

They're stopping that as well.

Harley Davidson, scaling back their DEI programs.

John Deere, same thing.

Lowe's, same thing.

Molson Coors, one of the companies that scaled back their initiatives.

Target, tractor.

I was really surprised that Target is scaling this back because they seem pretty committed to this stuff.

Yep.

But they're scaling theirs back.

Zoom, tractor supply company, and Snap are just a few of the others that have scaled back their DEI programs.

Which is great.

And I really like the way this has happened.

You know, the fact that it's not like us just whining and getting mad.

It is

on the other side of that.

Like, it is like a

productive effort.

Yeah.

Like, right.

Like, I much rather would, like, I like capitalism.

You know, I, I, I like the idea of being able to work with a company to solve a problem like this.

You know, because, like, look, it's easy for us to say, like, oh, God, this stuff's crazy.

And it is.

But when you're running a multi-billion dollar corporation and you're getting pressure from left-wing organizations, like, it's not easy.

You don't know which way to deal with this a lot of times.

Now, if you have, if you are a founder, it's easy for the Blaze to do it, right?

We here at Blaze TV have no problem with those issues.

Why, the second they're suggested, we laugh them out of the room.

Because we're essentially an ideological company, right?

Like we come from a conservative perspective and our business is saying what we believe and not caring if you don't like us.

That's not the business of Walmart or Bud Light or Disney.

Right.

Like they're supposed to be trying to please everybody everybody and that they buy their products.

And like this is like sometimes you can see people get caught up in the wrong way to go.

And the fact that, like, and this is Robbie Starbuck, it's a great effort, man, to be able to go in there and

what he's been able to do.

Incredible.

Incredible.

Here's some of the changes, by the way, on Walmart.

No longer participating in the HRC, that's the Human Rights Council's woke corporate equality index.

That's a big one.

It doesn't seem like a big one, but like when they participate in that, they have to try to please please that algorithm.

So they would make all sorts of changes like, oh, we swear we're super woke.

Give us a good score.

Not participating in that is a massive change that will influence all sorts of the inner workings of their company.

Products, monitor the Walmart marketplace to identify and remove inappropriate sexual or transgender products marketed to children.

Funding of grants, review all

funding of pride and other events to avoid funding inappropriate sexualized content targeting kids.

Equity, we will not extend the racial equality or equity, sorry, can't be equality, racial equity center, which was established in 2020 with a special five-year initiative.

Supplier diversity, we will evaluate supplier diversity programs and ensure they do not provide preferential treatment and benefits to suppliers based on diversity.

They will no longer use the term Latin X in official communications.

Oh, wow.

Walmart will discontinue racial equity training through the Racial Equity Institute.

I mean,

again, the Racial Equity Institute and the Human Rights Council, all these things are, it's an industry.

It's a multi, multi, multi-million dollar industry where these people come and they harass these companies and they shake them down.

They say, just give us money and you'll be able to check this box.

And a lot of them were like, all right, whatever.

We'll do it.

They're stepping back on that.

This is huge.

Fantastic.

Yeah.

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as in olden days.

Thanksgiving week with Pat and Stew for Glenn.

I read this interesting article about what the first

Thanksgiving was really like.

I'm glad you went that way because you said, what the f.

And I was like, wait a minute, this is, what show do you think you're on?

I don't know what's going on over there.

Pat Gray Unleashed these days, but...

What the first Thanksgiving?

Much better.

Much better.

Every November, you know, we go through this where people are trying to reposition Thanksgiving and what happened between the pilgrims and and the Native Americans and all that stuff.

It's kind of agonizing.

But this story

was a little bit different.

What they say is that this story is more simplified with what kids are taught in school.

The truth is more complex.

So what really happened on that first Thanksgiving in 1621?

According to a historian, David J.

Silverman, he says the missing parts of the story are quite dark and not the stuff of family celebrations.

In 1620, about 100 religious pilgrims left England on the Mayflower, we all know that, for the New World.

And they,

in 1621, wanted to celebrate the fact that they were still alive.

So, the Thanksgiving myth that many Americans have been brought up with would have us believe that the English were lucky enough to stumble upon friendly Indians.

But in reality,

the Wampanoag were willing, the tribe, were willing to form a military alliance because disease had recently decimated their populations and made them more vulnerable to their enemies.

Although scholars didn't know what the disease was,

they do know it came from Europeans.

How do they know that if they don't know what the disease was?

Very strange.

But they'd been in contact with Europeans for over a century and had made these pacts with them.

Now, it surprises me that they're talking about this military alliance that the Native Americans got into because they were having trouble with their

with some other tribes.

And there was

some wiping out going on on both sides.

Whereas usually

what is presented to us is that the Native Americans were saints in loincloth and the pilgrims were savage serial killers so i i've just found it surprising that that's not the way uh this story actually was i was expect i was expecting to read that the english lured the indians in tied them up and then doused them in a giant vat of smallpox and sent the free on uh the rest of the tribes in the area to kill everybody there uh so it's nice to hear that you know maybe there's maybe there's some actual history being taught now, being discussed,

being published, rather than, you know, the Europeans were terrible and

they brought nothing but death to the Native Americans, which is not accurate.

Not accurate.

So let me ask you a related but somewhat different question here, Pat.

I sense in you optimism.

Yes.

What's the shelf life on that?

What way?

My optimism?

Yeah, because I really do sense it out of you.

You seem really optimistic about what's going on.

I kind of am right now.

And I'm not sure what

the shelf life is.

Does it feel uncomfortable?

It does.

It does, doesn't it?

Yeah, it does.

It feels too good to be true.

We mentioned this quite a few times after the election.

The election seemed too good to be true.

And now these kinds of things where companies are backing away from DEI, stories are coming out that are closer to the truth of what history actually

happened in this country.

It's amazing, and it does feel too good to be true.

But I'm hoping it lasts a while.

It would be nice.

It would be nice.

It's been a rough four years, and we could use a break.

We've just been beaten over the head for the last four years.

I'll even extend it to five.

I mean, you go back to 2020, it was rough, man.

It was rough.

Trump was president.

That was a tough year for America.

It took a long time for us to get back to on our feet really at all.

Do you feel the optimism, though, as well?

Certain parts of it, I mean like the Doge thing, I really want to be optimistic about it.

I'm feeling it.

I just don't want it to be ruined.

Let's just pretend everything's going to be fine forever.

I'm okay with that.

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Oh, the weather outside is frightful.

Yeah.

The fire is so delightful.

Oh, yeah.

And since we've no place to go, let it snow.

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.

It felt almost cold enough to snow here in the Metroplex today, this morning.

Very cold.

Yeah, and 37.

37, which actually makes it two degrees colder than Glenn keeps the studio normally.

Which is usually it's warmer outside, even in the dead of winter.

But

not this week.

Not today.

So that was great.

Yeah.

I got a list here of the cabinet positions that have been filled with nominees so far.

Well, nominee.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nominees.

Nominees.

Tell me which of these you think will definitely be confirmed and which will not.

Okay.

All right.

Let's play a game.

I like this.

This is fun.

Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.

Definitely going to be confirmed.

Yeah, I think so, too.

I think that's going to be the easiest of the confirmations.

Yes.

Attorney General Pam Bondi.

I wouldn't say definite, but I would say most likely yes.

I think so too.

Yes.

I put that one at 90-something percent.

Okay.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.

I think he's a little bit,

you know, people see him as a, he's a personal lawyer of Trump's, and so there could be a little bit of, you know,

pushback on something like that, but I think he'll get through.

I know you love this particular nominee.

You've talked, or you've raved about him in the past multiple times.

What could be coming here?

HHS Secretary, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

Now,

what was the question?

But the question is, do I want him to be confirmed?

No, it's do you think he will be confirmed?

So you don't have to want him at all.

You know, I'm not as sure as everybody is on this one.

And

you may have heard there are just a couple of skeletons in the closet of every Kennedy that's ever lived.

And

what?

Yeah, I know.

It's shocking to hear.

Yeah.

The question, I guess my big issue here on this one is,

does the left want to stop it?

And I'm not sure they do.

I mean, if I were, like, let's put it this way.

If we, let's say Kamala Harris won and there was some important position and the person they were nominating was someone who has always been on our side since birth.

Yeah.

Was so much on

the opposition side of Kamala Harris, was actually running against them like a few few months ago.

Yeah.

And

agreed with us on almost everything in his entire portfolio of ideas.

And maybe called people on the left who disagreed with them traitors at one point in their career.

Exactly.

We might be like, you know what?

This is probably the best we're going to do here.

Why not go along with it?

Because I think you may get some pushback from certain people on the right.

I think he'll have his

hearing of his personal issues, which, if you think Matt Gates had issues,

wait until you get a little RFK.

From his own memoirs.

From his own memoirs.

He's documented this extensively.

I mean, he admits to 37.

In his diary, I think there was 37 affairs he had on one of his wives, who, by the way, wound up finding the diary and killing herself over it.

Not to mention that even after all of this happened, in the middle of a campaign, he had another seemingly some sort of affair with a reporter who then got had her marriage fall apart.

I mean, just the stuff they will, if they want to, be able to dredge up against him will blow people's minds.

Now, that doesn't mean he might think he's a great HHS secretary.

This doesn't even include, obviously, some of his more controversial views on issues around health and food and all those other things that, yeah, I agree with some of, not all.

My biggest problem with him is, you know, I mean, there's a lot, but my biggest problem is probably the abortion situation because he might have some say in that, as Health and Human Services will have

a major say, you know, in that.

In fact, and that's an issue because he's an abortion right up to birth guy.

So

I don't know.

Yeah.

I think we could do better.

There's a story that came out.

This is by Michael New.

It's called Eight Questions for Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

And it's not like an attacking piece, but it's like,

let me give you a couple of them.

A major reason why the U.S.

abortion rate has increased since 2017 was in that FDA policy regulations on chemical abortions have become more permissive.

In 2016, The FDA extended the limit for chemical abortions from seven to 10 weeks and reduced the number of in-person visits from three to one.

And these are like policies we didn't even discuss, right?

Like these are things that are happening inside HHS all the time.

They get no coverage on Fox News or Talk Radio or anywhere else.

They did so without properly studying the combined public health impact of these rule changes.

As

HHS secretary, would you support revoking these policy changes?

Now, I think anyone who's pro-life would say, of course.

Like, you know, let's look at that more closely.

Will RFK Jr.

do that?

The FDA, under the Biden administration, continued the COVID era practice of allowing women to obtain chemical abortion drugs through the mail.

Chemical abortions could be fatal to women with ectopic pregnancies and could pose serious health risks to women whose pregnancies are past the first trimester.

As HHA secretary, would you instruct the FDA to require an in-person medical exam for women seeking chemical abortions?

Now,

that's not like taking some massive stand on abortion.

That's like, hey, should there be some medical requirements attached to this?

You know, look, any person that Donald Trump would name in this job outside of RFK Jr., I would be pretty confident they would make that change.

Right?

Well, RFK Jr.

No idea.

I mean, my guess would be no.

I doubt it.

Yeah, I doubt it.

Let me,

there's an, I mean, a lot of this was stuff, like, for example, in 2019, HHS under the Trump administration, instituted the protect life rule, which prevented

Title X grantees, I guess, from co-locating abortion facilities or doing abortion referrals.

Unsurprisingly, under the Biden administration, HHS rolled back the protect life rule.

As HHH secretary, would you support reinstating it?

Now, Trump actually implemented this himself when he was president.

Obviously, it was important to him and the people around him.

Is it important to RFK Jr.?

I guess it's probably no.

And then you think about the way that this works, this is a third of our budget, about $2 trillion he'll be controlling.

He will be hiring thousands of people across these agencies over his tenure if he gets this job.

And, like, you might say, well, I really don't like high fructose corn syrup.

I agree.

I, I, I, at least, I don't really care about high fructose corn syrup, honestly, but I do not like the subsidies that lead us to be using it.

The reason why we have high fructose corn syrup are massive subsidies towards the corn industry.

I don't like those subsidies.

I'd like them to go away.

But, like, that is one little tiny, tiny bit.

If you like, if you agree with him on whether it's the COVID vaccine or,

you know, whether we should be eating fruit loops or not, whatever that, whatever that thing is that you might agree with him on, realize that this job he's getting is massively more invasive into your life than those little things.

The fruit loops thing is really important to me.

The fruit loops thing is

critical.

It's critical.

Can we at least the only thing I care about?

Really?

The fruit loops thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because I will say this.

RFK Jr., you may agree with him on a lot of things.

He is blatantly lying about fruit loops canadian fruit loops do not have three ingredients no that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard in my entire life they have 27 ingredients just like the united states has 27 ingredients uh-huh fruit loops cannot be made with three ingredients

i mean i guess you made them out of fruit like if you legitimately shaped apples

And cut them in the name in little circles.

And perhaps.

That's the thing.

If people looked into his background, I think they'd agree with him on a lot less than they think they do yeah and that's that's like a lot i think that's been true for a really long time you might agree with him on two things the border right now which he's sort of better on than he used to be and

the vaccine yep and that's about it i think and i think the food thing is really attractive to people and again it's not my vibe as you know i'm one of the leaders of chemical people i love all my chemicals i want taco bell every day for lunch

but and it's but i do get how that i think that does react to some i will say just on a slight pushback on this one

what country are we here?

Like, are we a country that makes our own decisions about what we eat?

Are we a country that has a centralized government official tell us what we should and should be able to get on the market?

And that's a problem.

From a personal freedom standpoint, like you should have the right.

And I'm with him on this.

Like, I don't care, I will be honest, don't care about raw milk.

Never really want to ingest it.

Don't really care about it.

I just don't care.

But you should be able to buy it if you want to.

Absolutely should be able to buy it if you want to.

And so I'm totally with him on that from a personal freedom perspective.

That being said, like if you happen to agree with him on raw milk, that doesn't make him the HHS secretary pick.

If you wanted to put him on a Doge-like committee that was looking for things that were problematic, that Trump could then say yes.

That would have been better.

Yes, no, yes, no.

That would have been a much better fit for me for RFK.

So yes or no on

confirmation?

I think he probably gets through.

I think he's seen as a guy who right now did a lot for Trump, probably more than he actually did for Trump.

And I also think Democrats might come around to the idea that, like, hey, why wouldn't we just approve this?

We'll get, I don't know, 20 or 30% of the stuff that we want, and that's good.

Now, borders are, since that's not an actual cabinet position, is that even a real thing?

He won't need confirmation.

He won't need confirmation, Tom Holman.

No, he won't need it.

So, Defense Secretary Pete Hag Seth.

Confirmed or not?

That's a tough one.

Are you answering these questions?

I feel like I'm the only one answering these.

I'm the one being questioned.

I'm I'm going mostly on all of it.

I'm a little skeptical about RFK being confirmed.

Yeah, I've gone to my head, I would say yes on it.

I'm thinking no.

I'm leaning no on that.

But Pete Hagseth, I don't know he makes it either.

Yeah,

I think Gates helped Hagseth.

Yeah, that's true.

He might.

I think if Gates had tried to play this out all the way, it would have helped Pete because.

I don't know, though.

Trump, though, has been hit with a lot of these false accusations.

Unless something,

right now, I will say I think Hickseth gets through.

I think it's possible that some other accusation or something else comes out that makes it untenable, but we'll see.

Interior Secretary.

This is such a huge.

Critical one for me.

Oh, my gosh.

This is the only one I care about right now.

Interior Secretary.

Yeah.

It's going to be Doug Bergam.

You know Bergamentum.

You know I'm a big Bergamentum guy.

I do, yeah.

Bergamania has been part of my life for a very long time.

Long time.

What I would say about Bergamia is Does anybody even care?

He's going to get through.

He definitely gets through.

And by the way, I want it to be noted on this show, when all of a sudden there was all these rumors about Doug Bergham getting the vice presidential slot, I said specifically on this show,

come on.

First of all, there's no way he's putting Doug Bergham on this ticket.

Number one.

Number two, Doug Bergham sounds like a Department of the Interior guy.

I said it on the air.

Okay.

A Secretary of the Interior.

I don't even know what the Secretary of the Interior does, and I knew it was going to be Doug Bergham because of Doug Bergham.

He decorates interior designs.

Interior design.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's what I figured.

Like, if you need your home remodeled, spruced up a little bit, he comes over and gives you some advice.

I totally go with Doug Bergum on that.

Like, what do you think?

He is, I think, generally speaking, well-liked, specifically by Republicans.

Yeah.

He is

boring, and he could be great, and he'll definitely be able to do it.

How about Interior Secretary?

I'm more sure of him than even Rubio.

Yeah.

He will get through.

Yes.

How about Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy?

Yes, I think he will get through.

I'm excited about that one.

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It's specifically talking about DEI in the skies.

And this is something that Duffy has specifically made like his mission to go out and get rid of all this stuff.

So I'm really,

the documentary is a great blueprint on what you can do and what the problems are.

But like the fact that he's focused on this, I'm excited about it.

I think he gets through.

Okay, and finally, Secretary of Commerce, or as Glenn would say, Secretary of Commerce.

He would say it that way.

He would say it.

This is Luttnick, right?

Luttnick.

Did we do Treasury, too?

But yeah,

we haven't gotten to Treasury yet.

We should do Treasury.

Luttnick, I think, probably gets throughout the year.

I think so.

Not a big fight on commerce.

But Scott

Besant for Secretary of Treasury.

I think he probably will because Democrats are going to like him.

Trump wants him.

He's a former Soros guy.

I don't know his pivot point, as Glenn would also talk about pivot points.

And I don't know what his economic pivot point was to go from Soros guy to Trump guy.

I don't know how that happened.

So I don't know enough about him to really be excited about him.

But there seems to be some issues there from a conservative standpoint.

Yeah, I think there's concerns.

You kind of wish that you could find somebody that just didn't have that in their background.

Yes.

But we have heard some good things about him, too.

And look,

I think with Trump,

he obviously has such a big profile and can kind of move these people in certain ways.

Some of them have worked, some of them haven't.

And he's not afraid to switch them out.

And real quick, Director of National Intelligence, does Telsi Gabbard

get confirmed?

That's a hard one.

We'll answer that when we come back.

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patent stew for Glenn today.

We were wondering about who's going to be confirmed here as far as

Trump's cabinet nominations.

And we're up to Tulsi Gabbard, or intelligence director.

Yes or no?

Did she get confirmed?

I'll say very slightly yes.

Okay, I think she squeaks by.

There's a lot of Republicans that do not like it.

Do I think she's getting Mitch McConnell's vote?

No.

No.

So she's going to have to pick up some Democrats, probably, but honestly, like, again, if I'm a Democrat, might squeak through.

I'm thinking to myself, she's been a Democrat most of her life.

I mean, she was a Bernie Sanders supporter.

You might just go along with it.

Give it a shot.

I mean, it's probably the best you could do.

Yeah.

All right.

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