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we got to talk about some of the Trump nominees, one in particular.

I'd like to get your thoughts on Stu.

But also,

can we avoid World War III?

I just kind of like to.

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You think it's

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I knew it.

So is there any other red line Joe Biden can cross to start up a war with Russia?

I mean, we've done pretty much everything we said in the beginning would lead to World War III.

So there were

certain lines we set out there that we're not going to cross.

And the first among them was we would never invite them to NATO.

We would never invite them to NATO.

They'll never be a NATO country.

Ukraine.

Ukraine, yes.

Ukraine has been invited to be a NATO country.

That's in the works right now.

They're not officially

a NATO country, but we're well on the way to that.

And we won't stop that process.

We haven't said, and this this was a promise we made many years ago, decades ago.

We did.

We did indicate that we would not do that to Russia back in the day.

It would be like if Cuba wanted to be part of a Soviet bloc, and this has happened, by the way, you might remember 1963.

But we'd have a problem with that.

We'd have a big problem with that.

Really?

Yeah, and we did.

And we did.

And we put a stop to it, and it nearly caused nuclear war.

In fact, there have been many countries in this hemisphere that

flirted with communism, and we invaded most of them.

Grenada, among them.

Yes.

Grenada.

Nicaragua, Nicaragua.

What's the capital of Nicaragua?

Manawa Niarawa?

Yeah, Nicaragua.

Manawa Niarawa.

Yes.

And

we had some hand in what was going on in many of those nations.

Panama.

I mean, you name it.

We've been there.

We don't like that.

Venezuela.

Venezuela.

Venezuela

is another example of, generally in our region.

You might have heard of something called the Monroe Doctrine, which, you know, has kind of driven our doctrine for the last 200 years.

Named after Monroe Muffler.

Yes, exactly.

That's where you have to go.

A lot of people don't know that.

Yeah.

It's named after Monroe.

Yeah, it was.

Look, a guy knew his mufflers and he knew his doctrines.

And he got both of those three.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's good.

So, yeah, no, that is a kind of a major.

And that just won.

One.

And then there was fighter jets.

We're not going to send them F-16s.

We're going to send them F-16s.

Crazy?

Yeah.

We do that.

It's World War III, Patrick.

Right, right.

So we're doing that.

We've sent them fighter jets.

Tanks.

Tanks was another one.

Tanks was another one.

Yeah, tanks.

No M1 Abram tanks.

We're not going to do that.

That'll be a dude.

That would be World War III.

Exactly.

Something like that.

Yes, that's a line we can't cross.

Sorry, Crane, but I mean, we'd like to.

We just can't.

But we did.

Then the fourth thing was long-range missiles.

We will not send you long-range missiles.

No, don't you even ask.

No, don't even ask.

Okay, you can ask.

Okay, you can have them.

All right, and you can have them.

So now they have long-range missiles.

You cannot fire them into Russian territory, Pat.

Well, okay.

Yes, you can.

Oh, you can?

Yes.

Okay.

Now they can.

Yeah.

But, I mean, that was ancient history.

How old were you last summer?

I was four.

I can't even remember.

I was four.

I can't.

I don't even know if I was born.

I might not have been because I'm a little older than you.

A little bit.

If I was four, you were probably not born.

Probably not even born.

It's hard for you to remember.

Is there even more?

I can't remember.

That's the only ones I can remember.

The latest, and I'm not positive we've ever promised not to do this, but we did the landmines, too.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Personnel mines.

Landmines.

Come on.

It's a lot.

Now, that one,

it's a lot.

That one, I feel like, is more defensible than some of the others, honestly, because that is a defensive weapon.

Yeah.

I mean, that is like, hey, don't come any farther.

Like, you know, like, and I think that's a message Ukraine is well within their rights to send.

Yeah.

And frankly, if I were Ukraine, if we were doing a talk show in Ukraine, we would be saying, hey, you know what would be great is if we got F-1,

if we got F-16s and we got Abrams tanks and

we got more money from all of these countries and we got long-range missiles and we could fire them into Russia.

We would want all of those things.

I understand why they're asking for them.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I just don't understand why we're always saying yes.

I don't get it.

I really don't get it.

Rogan was talking about this last week and was complaining about all the aid that we're giving to them and that maybe there's going to be some sanity coming in the future with Donald Trump.

And do you remember Vladimir Klitschko?

Yeah, heavyweight bucket.

Box boxer, yeah.

Right.

He's the mayor champion.

Kiev, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, mayor of Kiev.

So he is a political figure.

But here was his response.

Of Donald Trump's recent announcements, the one that intrigues, even excites me the most

as for Reed Zakaria.

I was a little thrown by the accent there.

Wait.

I know there's an accent.

It just might not be Ukrainian in that particular.

Yeah, it didn't seem like it.

All right, this is Klitchko.

Joe Rogan, I listened to your latest podcast.

I'm sending you this video to let you know that.

What a weird world we're in, isn't it?

Here's the guy who's the mayor of the capital of

a city who is in a country that's in war with one of the major superpowers of the nation.

And he's doing addresses to a podcast host.

It is weird.

It is, by the way, to remind you, was the host of Fear Factor.

Yes, right.

Where they ate like spiders every week.

Exactly.

Again,

that's still, to be clear, a higher, more

venerable position than my career.

So I'm not knocking him on this.

He's had a good career, but like, it is weird.

It is weird.

It is weird.

I mean, like, it is weird.

You would go further than that because the guy addressing Joe Rogan, who used to be Fear Factor host, is a former heavyweight chunks of the world.

And the president they're talking about

used to be the host

of The Apprentice on television.

It's a weird world.

It's weird, right?

And the guy who's the president of your country uh

that you're speaking of here ukraine was a comedian who was famous for playing the piano with his penis well you know what else you gotta use i mean i don't i'm not a penis i'm not saying that's not a special talent right obviously it probably is it probably is um and by the way i've never tried it no i you know i never have either no i think with the way i'll honestly when i think about a piano and i think about the way the the little case comes down and covers the keys i do not want to to be even attempting it.

Oh my god.

That seems really like a bad idea.

Yeah, it does.

And the funny thing about all of this is the one person in all of this conversation who's like a normal figure is by far the least competent.

Joe Biden.

Like he's like a normal, has a normal path to be in this conversation, right?

Senator, all these committees, vice president, president of the United States.

And he's the one that's terrible out of all.

Like, he's by far the least competent.

Like, I would take,

I would honestly give me.

Jake Paul's a boxer, too.

I'd take Jake Paul, I think, before I would take Joe Biden.

Yeah.

I don't know what Jake would do, but he probably at least would have a chance of doing something positive.

I know.

It's madness.

When you think of all the players involved here, it really is incredible.

But he had more to say.

You talk about these American weapons being sent to Ukraine, which you believe will lead to the Third World War.

Yes.

So let me tell you that you're repeating Russian propaganda.

No, brother.

Anytime we say anything that Ukrainians disagree with, it's Russian propaganda.

Right?

It's like, that's what they, that's all they have.

It's like the racist thing here.

Any, anything you say that goes against their

main thrust, which is to continue to get more American aid, it's Russian propaganda.

Right.

And like

these arguments might,

people are like, oh, the Russian propaganda.

Like, they would also say the same thing about what we just discussed, about how we, by the way, truthfully did tell them them we weren't going to let Ukraine get into NATO.

Right.

And yes, that's also Russian propaganda.

They say it all the time.

Number one, it also happens to be true.

True.

A lot of Russian propaganda is not true.

That part of it is true, number one.

And number two, it's like, well,

it's a sensible risk assessment.

Like not everything that is said in the nation of Russia is false.

It does just because, and I believe this, I think you do as well, Pat, that just because we said those things 30 and 40 years ago under different politicians and everything else that does not mean that it's okay for them to invade Ukraine like right that's not Russian propaganda like I think it was actually what they did is terrible and they're

the main part of the problem and I want them to lose the war I want them to lose yeah that being said I don't want to be involved in every little intricate detail here mainly because I don't want to flare this up into a situation that winds up with missiles falling on my children's heads.

That's the issue that I have here.

I

can understand

if you happen to be Ukrainian that you are like, well, we want Crimea back to, like, I get it.

I would be in the same position if I was there.

If I, we were doing a show in Kyiv today.

I'd be like, what do you mean we're just going to let them have Crimea?

No.

And they have the right to fight for every inch of it.

That doesn't mean we have to be involved in all of that.

And that's the, like, consideration is us.

America first is a slogan at some level.

We all understand that.

But it's also like a pretty good idea of the beginning of our priority list.

Like that's kind of the way it's supposed to work for a nation state.

Kind of.

Yeah.

In fact, exactly.

It's exactly how it's supposed to work for a nation state.

Deals Russia is in trouble.

So they want to scare you and people like you.

His war was supposed to last three days.

It has lasted three years, thanks to the heroism and sacrifice of us Ukrainians.

Well, not exactly.

I mean, yes, in part, it's the heroism and sacrifice of Ukrainians.

Yes, they had put up a valiant fight.

But without the hundreds of billions of dollars in military equipment, in training, in humanitarian aid, in all forms of aid from us,

it just might have been a three-day war or maybe three weeks, certainly.

I mean, the Council on Foreign Relations puts the number,

the total number of expenditures from the United States to Ukraine since this began at $175 billion.

And that's just us.

That's just us.

Not even including European nations.

That's also the official figure that the CFR is giving.

So if I had to guess, I would think they're really lowballing it.

It's probably double that.

But just the $175 billion, I mean, that is an unbelievable amount of money that we have pumped into Ukraine.

Money and military hardware and humanitarian aid.

And bless their hearts, I don't want them to be overrun by Russia.

But my gosh, that is, again, as you pointed out, just us, $175 billion that we admit to.

That's incredible.

That's about 50 years worth of aid that we've given to Israel.

And people scream and yell at the top of their lungs about that.

Why is this okay?

But aid to Israel is ridiculous.

Hard to believe.

It is.

And look,

they have extended this past

how you'd think this war would go without our help.

And honestly, the first few weeks wasn't really about our help.

Like, they did push back the Russian military in impressive ways.

I don't think they would have been able to hold the line nearly as long as they have.

No way.

And even with all of our help, every

normal assessment shows that they are losing right now.

And like they had their little pushback.

It didn't work.

They've been able to gain some territory inside of Russia, but what's happening on the Ukrainian side right now is that Russia has the upper hand.

Now, look, probably the sensible thing here and where this lands, probably when Trump gets into office, is that negotiations begin.

Trump goes to them behind the scenes and says, this is going to stop.

We're not going to be giving you this much money.

So figure out a way to be happy with something.

Right.

And probably goes to Russia and says the opposite and says, we're going to keep giving them all this money.

And we're going to multiple.

I mean, he said it publicly.

We're going to give them more weapons than it has ever been seen in human history.

Right.

And

I think the truth probably is somewhere in the middle and that like we will probably assist Ukraine at some level, but hopefully in defensive measures.

That's why why I'm not as worried about the landmines.

Like, landmines are bad for a society as it matures past a war because, you know, kids wind up going to school and start to get them all.

It's bad.

But it is a defensive weapon, and I think a defensible use of it to say, okay, look, we have these new quote-unquote borders.

We're not happy with them if we were Ukraine.

We're going to make sure if anyone tries to come across them again, it's very, very ugly.

You build up your defenses.

You're not trying to, you know, penetrate where Russia is setting up at this point.

And that sucks for Ukraine.

It does.

But

my interest is America and not seeing this spiral into a global conflict.

And I do think every day, every red line that's crossed, we get closer and closer to that.

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We've been

playing this Klitschko response to people being concerned in the United States about World War III.

I guess that's not a concern as far as he is concerned.

But to me, it sort of is.

I think to you, it is a bit.

I think we'd like to avoid World War III if possible.

My guess is he has a policy of Ukraine first.

Yeah, which is, by the way, very sensible for the mayor of Kiev.

Sure is.

But it's not necessarily our policy.

No.

But he continued, let's just finish this off.

So you're using the only weapon that Putin really intends to use, propaganda.

And this weapon really weakens our democracies.

Yeah, well, first of all, the United States is not a democracy.

It's not?

No.

No, I've heard

a democratic fighting to protect our democracy.

We're not even

doing that.

But they're wrong.

It's not a democracy.

It is a republic.

And actually, Ukraine.

certainly isn't a democracy either.

I mean, they just suspended elections.

Zelensky suspended the election to remain in power.

Does that sound democratic?

That doesn't to me.

I could be wrong on that.

Putin's Russia wants to destroy Ukraine quietly.

Yeah.

They want America to stay quiet.

Not great, but quiet.

A great America is not an America that abandons countries, that defend freedom with their lives.

In short, you see,

I have quite a few points of difference.

If you invite me on your podcast, we could discuss them like friends.

What is happening?

If you invite me on your podcast, what?

yeah this is war today this is how it's fought yep

it's true and look you know look this is his opinion i think a lot some of it's true right i mean i i think there is a lot of russian propaganda and some of it does get swallowed up uh yeah you know it's true but like it's not true it's quite obvious that i look i take vladimir uh putin seriously when when he threatens nuclear uh war you know like i just feel like that's the right thing to do now look is he going to do it?

I hope not.

I hope not.

But, like, do you realize that the thing standing between us and World War III is Vladimir Putin's restraint?

Okay,

I guess we can just put all of our eggs into that basket, but I don't think it's a, like, it's a, it doesn't seem like a great idea.

And it is, it is that exactly, that we don't trust Putin, not that we're his lapdogs.

We don't trust him.

Not at all.

That's why we have to conduct ourselves responsibly, and we're just not doing that right now.

No, especially when we have a new president coming in, a president that's going to have a totally different way of talking to these people.

If you're Joe Biden and you're really trying to avoid this and not just worry about your legacy or whatever else is your, I mean, whatever other bizarre thing he's worried about right now,

you want to calm the waters.

Right.

Like, let Donald Trump come in and try something different if you want to end this war.

Doesn't seem to want to do that, Pat.

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Some interesting nominees from

President-elect Trump.

He's not wasting any time.

He is really not.

He's going for it.

There's no, like, it's not like that you build the drama with like the long pauses in a reality show.

He's just like, here's 15 of them.

Like, I like it.

I like this approach better.

And I think he's done now, right?

Didn't he?

He's announced for all of them.

For all of the cabinet positions.

He's named somebody now.

Yeah.

That doesn't mean, of course, there's a

long way to go.

So that's going to be, you know,

some of them are going to be difficult uh really difficult um

but there's there's some that are a little bit surprising like jonathan capehart

uh it was conflicted about he is a gay man on i think it's msnbc right it was conflicted about trump's nominee of another openly gay man to be the highest ranking openly gay man ever

in anybody's administration.

So it's going to be hard.

They're going to be hard pressed to say that he's anti-LGBTQQIA 2 plus.

Wait, so the openly gay man is upset that an openly gay man has been named to the highest level.

Well, he's conflicted.

He's conflicted.

He's conflicted.

And I think the only reason he's conflicted is because it's coming from Trump.

Right.

I don't know any other reason that he would be conflicted.

Well, I think, you know, look, we want, of course, people of diverse backgrounds to be named to these high positions, unless, of course, it comes from our political opponents.

Then we want them to be

oppressed.

We want the oppression to continue until our side can make that nomination.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Is that what he's arguing?

That seems to be his argument.

Now, who is the first

Scott Besant?

Oh, I didn't know he was afraid of the Treasury Secretary.

You know, part of the reason I didn't know he was openly gay is because it has absolutely no

connection with anything he'll be doing.

Right.

And my problem with him is not that he's openly gay and has a husband and a couple of kids.

My problem with him is that he's a former George Soros money handler.

That's kind of my issue with him.

Yeah.

I worked closely with Soros, including on he was there for the collapse of the British, was it the, what was the currency?

Yes, the pound.

The pound.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, and they made billions on that.

Right.

And brought England to their knees for a while.

And we had Carol Roth on the show last week or the the week before talking about this guy.

Yeah.

And her opinion was like, you know, his background, yes, there's problems, but he, you know, I think you can be a little more confident than just saying George Soros employee, right?

Like he, she was like, he's actually pretty much come around a little bit, which made me a little more positive.

I hope he came around a lot because that's a long way to travel from George Soros advisor to this.

And like, Pat, you know, I just feel like there's got to be somebody who could do this job that wasn't ever a George Soros employee.

Like, is that a lot to ask?

I don't think so, but it makes me uncomfortable.

Yeah, me too.

There's a lot of things that make me uncomfortable, Pat.

And these nominees, there's a lot of stories like this where I'm just kind of supposed to look past multiple decades of history and just be like, well, everything's fine now.

And maybe it is, right?

Like, I was also really concerned about who Donald Trump would pick as a Supreme Court justice

if he actually became president in 2016.

And I think some of those concerns have played out.

I think there's been some

decisions by some of these justices that, you know, Kavanaugh, I've had some questions about.

Even Avon Coney Barrett at times has been a little.

And even Gorsuch, I think, at times has had his issues.

That being said, overall,

pretty pleased with the way he handled that.

In fact, especially considering the Roe versus Wade thing, which you and I said on the air a million times was never going to happen in our lifetimes.

And then it is.

So

it's possible this is going to work out fine.

But I am a little concerned

on some of these names and the way that they're coming to us.

I just,

look, he's already been president of the United States.

He knows these people much better than I do, I'm sure personally.

But

there's reason for some concern on some of these names.

Yeah, and it's not just him.

He just nominated Dr.

Jeanette Nishawat as surgeon general, too.

And that's a little controversial because of her stance during COVID, that she was pretty supportive of

lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations,

the masking, the social distancing.

She was all over all that stuff.

Kind of a

normal mainstream media take on a lot of those issues at the time.

And so a lot of people who

preferred Trump because,

you know, partially because of his skepticism towards some of the main health directives of the COVID era.

Very concerned about that.

You know,

I've seen a lot of pushback on her in particular.

Now, the one thing I will say about this is we all have to remember

what actually happened in 2020 and 2021, right?

Like,

you know, Donald Trump was president of the United States.

He was on stage with Anthony Fauci when they announced 15 Days to Slow the Spread.

That was, they were standing next to each other when that occurred.

It wasn't like a

boxing weigh-in where they had their fists pointed at each other.

They were agreeing to this.

I mean, Trump, by all accounts, agreed to this.

That doesn't mean that he was the left-wing

version of what they wanted to happen.

Of course, they wanted different things.

But obviously,

another thing people are highlighting is that she was very positive about the vaccines.

So was he at the time?

So was he.

And here's here's the thing.

He still is.

Still is.

He still is.

It's true.

He's proud of it.

Yeah, he's proud of it.

He doesn't say it as much because he's heard from his base that they don't agree.

But like Trump is very proud of what he did during that time.

Yeah, because he ushered in a vaccine that would normally take 10 years to get done.

I remember hearing it.

And it was nine months.

Yeah.

So he was proud of it.

And again, like, you know, Donald Trump was not involved in the day-to-day scientific development of this, but he was very much involved in the

clearing bureaucracy.

And funding it.

Funding it, pushing it.

I mean, like, it was a major part of his effort and probably the thing he's most centrally associated with when it comes to

the pandemic response.

So to assume that every single nominee

in public health is going to look like RFK Jr.

is a mistake.

He is closer.

He's not her either, right?

He was never in favor of long-term lockdowns.

She was talking about lockdowns in 2021 and saying positive things about him.

That's not where Donald Trump was

But like he he is not RFK Jr.

on this stuff Donald Trump He he is proud of what he did during that period and a lot of people don't like that They don't like to they don't like to remember that because the alternative to Trump was much much worse Yes, a person who wanted to force through unconstitutional mandates.

That's not where Trump was a person who wanted to keep us locked down into 2021 and beyond, and that's no Trump schools.

Yeah, I mean, Trump was definitely more on the right side of lockdowns than

many of the public health officials of that era, and certainly the media.

That being said, you know, I mean, he was, it wasn't,

every single person's not going to look like RFK Jr.

Like, that's just not going to happen.

That's not who he is.

That's not who Donald Trump is.

He's not RFK Jr.

on health.

No.

You know, on some aspects of it, he is.

But like, what else is Donald Trump known for having McDonald's with a football team in the White House?

Like, he's that guy.

He's the taco salad guy.

Not only that, but having McDonald's with RFK Jr.

on the private plane

traveling the country.

That's Trump.

And you could tell that RFK was somewhat uncomfortable with the McDonald's.

dinner that they were having.

Right.

And look, RFK Jr., you know, played an important role in the campaign for Trump, and Trump knows that, and he's recognizing it.

But like,

and I don't think it's the highest priority for Donald Trump.

Like, I don't think, you know, red 40 is the reason Donald Trump wanted to become president.

It is the reason that RFK Jr.

wanted to become president.

So it's really important to RFK.

It's not all that important to Donald Trump.

And he's saying, you know what?

Hey.

Don't piss off my base.

You want to go over there.

You want to do what you want to do.

I'll let you do what you want to do.

Don't step over red lines.

I think that's what he's saying to RFK Jr.

behind the scenes.

Like, look,

they don't agree.

And part of the reason you might know this is that RFK Jr.

was running for president against Donald Trump three months ago.

That's one indication as to why they don't actually agree on all this stuff.

They don't, but he's paying him back for a political

favor.

And that, and we know it's a political favor because RFK Jr.

also called Kamala Harris for the same favor.

And she didn't return his calls and he did.

And look, that's politics.

I'm not overstating that.

I mean, it's politics.

And Trump is being loyal to someone who helped him in a close election.

And that's who he is.

Yeah.

And it feels like it was a blowout election because Trump won all seven swing states.

But remember, he had to win one of those blue wall states.

The biggest quote-unquote blowout.

of those three states was 1.6 points.

This is a close election.

It could have easily gone the other way.

He won Wisconsin by less than a point.

He won Michigan by a point and a half.

He won Pennsylvania by 1.6 or 1.8.

It was under two points.

So these, like, he needed those votes from RFK.

It was a smart thing for him to do.

It was a dumb thing for Kamala Harris not to call RFK Jr.

back.

And he's rewarding him with this nomination.

And if he oversteps his bounds,

that relationship will explode.

And it it should.

Trump shouldn't be putting up with things he doesn't like just because RFK Jr.

helped him.

Yeah, if he starts dabbling in climate change regulations and all of that stuff,

abortion stuff is a big issue.

Abortion stuff.

And Trump,

because that's supposedly a health issue.

Abortion is healthcare pass.

Yes, it is.

Reproductive health care.

Yeah, if you go back to the Trump administration the first time, one of the things that he correctly got a bunch of pro-life credit for was going in and going through the regulations in the health department and changing them to

more pro-life ends.

When it comes to funding, it comes to regulation, how easily the abortion pill can be shipped around the country.

All those things are part of what RFK Jr., a person who is absolutely pro-choice and has been his entire life and has talked about abortion all the way up to the ninth month of pregnancy, that guy is now going to be in charge of hiring people to implement those regulations.

After Trump went out of office, Biden came in and changed all those.

Is RFK Jr.

going to go in and change them back?

I mean, I think there's real reason for skepticism that he's going to do that.

And it's going to create a whole nother full-time job for somebody in the Trump administration to oversee what he's doing and who he's hiring.

Because you might like the idea of, well, I like, I don't like high fructose corn syrup, and that's great.

Of course, the way you solve that is by changing the subsidies, all the money that goes to agricultural subsidies.

I don't know.

Will they do that?

I hope they do, because I wasn't in support of them.

It's got nothing to do, honestly.

I don't high fructose corn syrup.

I don't really care about it, frankly.

But I know a lot of people do.

The reason why that happens, why it's in your food all over the place, is because we subsidize corn.

That's why it's there.

That is a progressive policy, not one that I support.

If you do that,

if you stop screwing with all these subsidies, you'll get more sugar in your food instead of high fructose corn syrup.

That might be something that RFK Jr.

really is passionate about.

But if he goes on to certain things that he's supported his entire life, global warming, how many times have they said it's a health crisis?

Now, do I think he's going to implement a policy that says you can't have oil anymore because of a health crisis?

He'll be fired in 12 minutes if he tries that.

But he is going to hire thousands of people.

And I am concerned about what they're doing in microscopic regulation that we're not even going to notice.

That is an issue.

We're going to have to watch that really closely.

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somebody we haven't mentioned yet this morning is Pete Hagseth, who seems to be, I don't know if he's in trouble.

I don't know how many senators are thinking they're not going to vote for him.

I

know that some have said, meh, probably not.

I'm thinking about maybe not supporting his nomination.

But

here's what one of the Fox News contributors had to say about Pete Hagseth.

This is interesting.

Leslie Media obtained this police report from California authorities from back in 2017

and says, you know, Hegseth appeared very drunk.

He got into a fight with Jane Doe.

That's how she's being referred to.

That she repeatedly said no.

And a rape kit confirmed the sexual encounter.

Again, Pete Hagseth says this was consensual.

I dread, dreaded talking about this today.

Okay, actually, we don't have time to fit.

We'll get this on the other side.

Interesting teas.

Yeah, Fox News contributor Leslie Marshall.

So this had to be somewhat uncomfortable on Fox over the weekend.

Yeah, we should.

What do you think?

We should talk about this whole story.

Yeah, because

I don't know if the whole thing adds up.

Okay, interesting.

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This George Soros former employee kind of bothers me just a bit.

Yeah, Elon Musk kind of made a note about this.

There was a behind-the-scenes situation where

Musk wanted supposedly and many others wanted Howard Luttnick to be the

CEO at

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Wanted him as the Treasury Secretary.

He wanted getting the Commerce Secretary gig, or at least the nomination.

And Musk kind of publicly said that and he kind of stuck his neck out and Trump was like, yeah, no,

you don't get to pick for me.

I think there's that, that's going to be an interesting dynamic to get, to play out because they're getting along well right now.

But like,

you know, Musk is not used to getting no's

from anybody.

They seem to be getting along.

Hopefully it continues.

I really want this Doge thing to work out.

So, you know, me too.

It's the thing I'm most excited about, honestly, going into the Trump administration.

Maybe before we get into the hegset thing, we should go, speaking of the Doge thing, because

a lot of support came from an unlikely source over the weekend.

Fareed Zakaria

says that he's excited about the Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy team at the head of Doge.

That's terrible news, Peter.

Because if Farid Zakaria thinks it's good, completely changes your mind.

I'm now opposed to it.

Actually making a little sense, though, a little bit.

Of Donald Trump's recent announcements, the one that intrigues, even excites me the most is the establishment of Doge, the misnamed Department of Government Efficiency.

Misnamed because it is really a non-governmental advisory body that will work with the White House, not any kind of department inside government.

Right.

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who will be in charge of Doge, are both brilliant, and the federal government has clearly become too expansive and it's written too cumbersome.

Yes.

You believe that?

Wait.

Farida.

Are you Fareed?

Hello?

Are you feeling all right?

Because yeah, it's become too expansive.

Over 180,000 pages of federal regulations.

Surely it's worth taking a close look at them and retiring many.

Observers have pointed out that the DUO's efforts will be much harder to achieve than they imagine.

Washington may be quite inefficient, but most of what it does is write checks with great efficiency.

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, and other mandatory programs make up around 60% of the federal budget.

Donald Trump has often said he would protect most of the spending.

Next is the Department of Defense at over $800 billion,

which has generally been considered untouchable for political reasons, though it is probably the department that most desperately needs to be streamlined.

America has four different air forces, the Air Force itself, itself, the Army's Air Force, the Navy's Air Force, and that of the Marines.

After the Pentagon comes interest on the debt, also untouchable, which is almost as large as the Pentagon's budget.

What is now left is about 15% of the federal budget, which includes certain veterans' benefits, agricultural subsidies, spending on roads and highways, etc.

To achieve the $2 trillion spending cuts that Musk has often talked about, he would need to eliminate all of this spending and all of the Pentagon spending, and then he'd still have work to do.

Yeah.

But I do support the impulse to reform.

How about that?

Yeah.

It doesn't normally happen from commentators on MSNBC

or CNN or any network news organization.

They're usually

very friendly toward government spending.

Don't have a problem with it.

Of course, neither do Republicans as a rule.

So that's why, that's why to me, this department could be really great.

I'm really excited about it and optimistic about it.

In fact, it's the thing I'm most excited about.

Yeah.

Yeah, me too.

And

I think $2 trillion is not going to happen, most likely.

I mean, I'm not that optimistic about it.

I would hope that would happen, but that's about a third of the budget.

As Zakaria correctly notes there, you're wiping out the Pentagon to get to those levels.

And

it depends on how you

have to find a way to maybe justify that.

I don't know.

But yeah, probably not going to happen.

I don't think it's happened since 1922.

Were you saying any cuts at all?

Any cuts.

Certainly not cuts like this, not deep cuts.

Right.

I mean, we can't even cut 1% of the increase anymore without people going out of their minds and losing elections over it.

So ever since Calvin Coolidge took an incredible, not just a surgeon's knife, but he took a chainsaw to the federal budget.

It was Michael Myers machete.

It was.

Yeah, it was.

And we haven't done it since.

No.

That I can think of.

Like $2 trillion is really tough.

I mean, because, first of all, your main levels of spending, the main source of it are these programs that Donald Trump has promised not to cut.

Right.

And he just mentioned that.

And in addition to that, there's the interest.

on the debt that you have to pay, which is getting larger and larger.

And then, of course, things like the military, which he also mentioned, that he doesn't want to cut.

But that being said,

what I keep thinking of is, you know,

there's these splashy sorts of cuts, like getting rid of the Department of Education, that I really would support.

However, difficult because you need Congress for that.

And so that's going to be difficult.

However, like if you have a program that is supposed to, let's say you have a program that costs a billion dollars and it's supposed to serve a million people doing something.

And

you can go in there and say, well, half of the cost of this program is staffing.

If we cut that staffing by half, we're going to save 25% on this program and we can still serve those million people because that Congress told us we had to serve.

And if you can kind of figure that out, you can get major cuts.

And then you go back to the well and say, okay, if we're reauthorizing this program that Congress wants, we should reauthorize it at these lower spending levels because we just proved to you we can serve these people at these levels.

Those types of things are really doable.

And, you know, as they point out in their op-ed, this is the Musk Ramaswamy op-ed, they have a Supreme Court that is really friendly to this idea that you can't just,

through

an administrative state, do all these things.

They write in West Virginia versus the EPA, this is the 2022 ruling.

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So they can attack that way.

They can't, it's going to be really hard for them to say, well, no more Department of Education.

They can recommend that.

I mean, Reagan was recommending that.

Right, but they can't just go in and cut out the Department of Education.

They can't do that.

You need Congress to do that, but they can make it more efficient.

I mean, think about like, if you look at Twitter and what Elon Musk did at Twitter.

Right now, they're a company that has,

the government's like Twitter at the beginning.

They are serving all these people that want to tweet things.

They have all sorts of regulations that mean they're controlling free speech in ways that we're not comfortable with, but they're doing the job of letting everyone get their posts up.

Then Musk came in and said, we're going to fire 80% of the staff and we're still going to get your posts up.

That all happened.

Now, you can criticize parts of the way that Elon Musk did that, and there will be incredible criticism when they make these moves, if they make these moves.

Every single mom,

every single grandma.

That has a job and has had a job for 30 years and has no

discipline record, you're going to see featured in media.

They're going to to show them how they now don't have a job, how they worked so hard their entire life for this incredible mission of this government agency, and how they helped all these people and now they can't.

And they will sob on television.

And like, I know it's easy to say, look, this happens.

You know, there probably will be good employees that go away, but

we have to do something.

And it's true.

But there's going to be a lot of pressure.

And if it derails things that are of higher consequence to Trump, it will be difficult for him to do these things.

If it hurts his presidency, if he thinks that now I can't get X, Y, and Z done that I want to get done, like on the border or something else, he's going to have to prioritize.

It's not going to be an easy path, but it's one I think I'm pretty optimistic about.

Yeah,

it's an exciting possibility because you mentioned the interest on our debt, which our debt is $35 trillion

now.

So just the interest on that, I don't know what the interest rate we're paying is, but

it's in the trillions, right?

Isn't the interest alone about the Pentagon budget or more?

In long term, yeah, I think

over the long term, it's in the trillions of dollars.

I think it's, you know, they usually measure these things over a 10-year period.

I want to say it's hundreds of billions a year now.

And of course, increasing

every single year.

So it's just egregious.

And

if we don't get our head around it,

if we don't do something about it right now, uh,

we're in for real trouble.

I mean,

we haven't seen real trouble until all of this catches up to us.

And eventually it will.

I mean, through smoke and mirrors, been able to avoid the really big pain that will, will come from this kind of debt.

But you can't avoid it forever.

And eventually,

it's going to be a house of cards that collapses.

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Okay, Fox contributor Leslie Marshall talking about former Fox colleague Pete.

Hegseth and his nomination.

Here's what they had to say about it.

But Leslie media obtained this police report from California authorities from...

And by the way, this actually happened on Fox News.

So this is an interesting discussion about a guy who currently works.

Back in 2017 and says, you know, Hegseth appeared very drunk.

He got into a fight with Jane Doe.

That's how she's being referred to, that she repeatedly said no.

And a rape kit confirmed the sexual encounter.

Again, Pete Hegseth says this was consensual.

Yeah, because not only did the rape kit confirm, but as you mentioned, Stu,

he confirmed.

yeah one piece of evidence indicating they had sex is him saying they had sex and her saying they had sex so right again they have disapp they have differences on how that occurred right and whether it was consensual or not but they apparently was an event yeah yeah so

i dread dreaded talking about this today um i met pete a long time ago uh we spent middle of the night waiting to go on during 2016 uh before the election and I like him as a person with all due respect to my former colleague.

We know that there were three cases of adultery for Pete Heggs and it is relevant and the reason why it's relevant is Article 134 of the UCMJ considers adultery against the military, which the Department of Defense is part of.

You can't lead an entire organization and all these people if you can't lead by example.

One, two.

I am a rape victim, and I can tell you there's a reason one in 10 rapes go unreported.

And it's very difficult for a woman to go in and have a rape hit done.

It's physically, mentally, and emotionally very difficult to go through that process, as I have.

And I can tell you that just very personal in my deep core, somebody doesn't do that with their husband and their kids in the hotel texting their husband.

Somebody doesn't go into the hospital and subject herself to that.

And I have to say, I, as a woman and as a victim,

I believe the victims.

And this is a problem for me, the sexual impropriety.

And then on top of that, although Pete has an incredible military career, he doesn't have the leadership career in the military that I feel the Department of Defense requires as their head.

So

I don't know what happened between these two, but for her to say that it's unlikely for her to do the rape kid because her husband and kids were in a different hotel room when this supposedly occurred,

to me, that almost might make it more likely.

Because

if it happened and there was a consensual encounter,

it's a life-destroying event.

Yeah.

Yeah, with your husband in another hotel room, in the same hotel.

And if you actually did this with Pete Hague, Seth, and obviously they did, but it's, you you know, was it consensual or not?

If it was consensual, you certainly wouldn't want to want your husband to know that.

Right.

I mean, if

the answer to

if this event comes to light in some way and your excuse is, well, I just slept with another man in a hotel while you were sleeping in another room.

Like, there's just probably doesn't mean there's any coming back from that, right?

Yeah.

So that does not mean this.

It doesn't mean anything.

Like, we weren't there.

We don't know.

But, like,

you would think because of the way this played out, there'd be more likely to come up with an alternative explanation.

That doesn't mean that that's what she did.

We don't know, but it's not out of the question.

We don't believing all women is dumb.

It doesn't mean that you wouldn't be right a lot of times.

You would if you believe women, and I think it's true, like Pat, I think part of what she said is true.

You don't just go in to have a rape kid done for fun.

Right.

Like, it's not something it's got to be

a horrific experience in every way possible.

Yes.

So, I'm, you know, but like, we're talking

when, when faced with a decision, by the way, multiple days after this happened, like, after this, after this encounter occurred, she waited, I think, five days to go to the police.

I don't know what that means.

I mean, every time you bring up something and you question a detail like that, people say, Well, you don't understand.

This has never happened to you.

Thank God it hasn't happened to me.

I don't know.

I'm sure

it brings a series of impossible decisions.

But that being said, if you are five days after this and

you are faced with the basically destruction of your entire life,

if you're a parent, if you're a wife, like your entire personal life is about to explode, there are def, I'm not saying this woman is one of them, but there are definitely people.

in the world who would choose incorrectly and come up with a false story under those circumstances.

It is not something you can rule out.

You can't believe all women.

You can't believe all anything.

You judge stories individually based on their merit.

That's what you do.

You don't believe all blank.

That's dumb.

Like we've done that before, right?

Like

we used to, I mean, there are societies on earth right now that believe all men every single time.

That's a dumb approach.

You don't believe people based on their genitals.

And you know what women who say that don't believe it either because hillary clinton was one of the first believe all women well i believe do you do really what about the ones accusing your husband of rape uh what about yeah what about her you believe her yeah you believe her no you don't of course not you so and believe me women know more than anybody that women at times act this way

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Let's go to Donna

in Louisiana.

Hey, Donna, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi.

I want to talk to you about Pete's accuser.

She is like the worst kind of despicable Me Too woman accuser.

and I watched the Megan Kelly

show on this topic and I wish you could have her on to discuss it because she went point by point through the police reports and everything.

Said she was given a date rape drug and there are witnesses saying that she was totally fine that saw her in the

in the bar and then

the hotel employees and Pete was the one that was intoxicated.

And they say she was the aggressor.

He wasn't.

Her husband was right in the same hotel looking for her at 2 o'clock in the morning when this supposedly happened.

So I wish you could just take a look at Megan's interview and talk to her, have her on to discuss this, because this woman is horrible, what she did.

Yeah, I did hear actually Megan's done a rundown of this, and it was, as you point out, excellent.

She really, I mean, she went line by line on this.

And as she noted, she doesn't know everything that happened in that room.

Of course, none of us do.

But there is a real reason for skepticism on the story.

I was trying to convey that a little bit.

By the way, I'll be on with Megan today.

She's not coming on our show, but I am going on her show today.

So that'll be, we've got a lot of stuff to talk about.

A lot of these new nominees, and this Hexeth thing, I think, is an issue too.

And as Megan pointed out as well at the beginning of all that,

you know, the personal life stuff for Pete is suboptimal.

Yeah.

You know, it's not great.

You kind of wish we'd have the ability to find people who can do these things and not have

multiple affairs on wives and not

have

a George Soros connection going back many years.

And I will point out, if you happen to be someone who's concerned about this type of thing, blowing everyone out of the water when it comes to numbers, when it comes to really bad personal personal life stuff, RFK Jr.,

top of the list.

Number one.

Every single person you know has a lower number of times they cheated on their husband or wife or husband than good old RFK Jr.

And with really devastating, I mean, life and death type circumstances when it comes to the RFK Jr.

situation.

I think we all kind of recognize that people make mistakes and Washington's a messy place and it seems like nobody in the entire area can stay loyal to their spouse for any period of time.

But it would be nice if we could hit standards that were a little higher than this.

I mean, we used to aim for them.

Yes.

I mean, yes, that's true.

And I hope it didn't.

Did we give the impression that we were fully on board with the accusations of the woman against Pete Hexeth?

I don't know.

I'm pretty skeptical.

I'm

skeptical to begin with, even without having Megan on.

Yeah.

Although

that would be fine.

I'd love to have Megan on.

But again, you'll be on her show today, so that's something to look forward to as well.

But we, I mean, I'm skeptical.

I don't know.

I wasn't there, but it he certainly, I.

Sorry, it doesn't really add up.

It doesn't.

It really doesn't.

There's a lot of inconsistencies.

And, you know,

again, you don't know because you weren't there.

But like, we do know, obviously, the very basics of it because, you know, Pete's talked about it.

And, you know, he's had these issues.

And he's not the only one in Washington that's had them.

And he has a lot of other really great qualifications for this gig.

And I don't know, what's your impression?

Like, I was very skeptical that Gates would ever get through.

I mean,

not only are

was he, he had some things where I could understand why Trump went after him in this role because he wanted a bulldog.

That being said, I think Pam Bondi will also be a bulldog for him and is much more qualified for the job.

And everyone in Washington doesn't hate her.

Like, that's kind of where Gates is.

You know, like, he has a lot of enemies in Washington.

You might say that's a positive, but when you're going through a confirmation pile, lot of enemies are difficult.

Yeah, it is.

But he's so plain spoken, and he's got some giblets that he's

willing to use, and he says things like this when people confront him.

Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?

Yes.

What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive?

Be offended.

It's that kind of of thing.

You like that.

That draws you to Matt Gates

because he doesn't care.

And I don't care what you think of it.

I'm just going to tell you where I stand.

And I like that.

I do like that.

And I think that's one of the things people like about Trump so much.

Sure.

He's very Trumpish.

Yeah, he is.

He is.

But he's got some issues, too.

Yeah, he's got some issues.

That's one way of stating it.

And I think you can have all of the goodness of a clip like that with him being

on Fox News or him

having a position with Trump that isn't where a confirmation is not necessary.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, you don't, I mean, he could be a White House counsel and do all that stuff.

Sure.

Right.

Like, you're going to get it.

He probably will be.

Yeah.

Pam Bandi did this job already.

She already was an attorney general of a major state.

She knows how to do the job, and she's not going to have, I don't think, these types of problems when it comes to confirmation.

Yeah, and there's going to be enough fights as it is to get these people nominated or confirmed.

So

the reason I started that with Gates was I wanted to see what's your take on, do you think Heg Seth right now, gun to your head, do you think he gets through?

I don't think so.

No.

I don't think so.

I mean, I want him to, but I don't think he will.

I don't think they have,

I don't think the Senate will have the giblets necessary to confirm him.

We'll see.

Yeah,

I could definitely see it going either way.

From the beginning, I kind of felt like he would get through.

I feel like there's been so many

false or questionable accusations that, like, Trump, I think, looks at this and like, he's been accused, I think, falsely many times of this type of stuff.

And I think he, you know, he's going to probably err on the side of saying, look, if it's someone he likes and someone he believes and trusts, and obviously he is that person if he named him in the first place.

I think he's going to probably take his word for it and believe it.

I think, you know, he's been on the wrong side of a lot of these false accusations.

and he can, I'm sure, see that.

The question is whether Congress or senators are going to get to that level.

It also depends on whether he does a recess, a recess confirmation or not.

Yeah, the recess appointment thing is, you know, a whole nother,

you know, then you're going to have other issues to deal with.

Right.

And so I don't know.

I mean, because, you know, to get the recess appointment, you also are going to basically need to get all these senators on board for it.

I mean, because they're going to, to go on recess, you're going to need those votes.

It's going to be hard to get those to go on recess, recess too.

So look, it's a complicated path.

And I think there is truth, though, to the fact that senators are not going to, Republican senators are not going to say no to him like 12 times.

Like

they're going to pick and choose here.

And Gates was one.

RFK Jr.

might be one.

I don't think Pam Bondi is going to be one.

Heg Seth might be one.

You know, Tulsi Gabbard's another one.

You know, Tulsi Gabbard is, and I like Tulsi, but like she is a person who really runs runs against the grain of like traditional Republican foreign relations.

And proudly she does that.

And she's closer to Trump, I think, than traditional Republican foreign relations in a lot of ways.

That being said, there's a lot of Republican opposition to her, too.

You maybe get some Democrat support for her.

I don't know.

Yeah, we'll, you know, that might be the way to get that through.

All right.

Christy in Alabama.

Hi, you're on the Glenbeck program with Patton Stu.

Hi, good morning, Patton Stu.

Thank you so much for taking my call.

With everything else going on, with all the excitement of the new administration, the one thing I am the most excited about, I'm with you guys, is the Doge program.

Yes.

I grew up in the mid-Atlantic in Maryland.

I grew up between Baltimore and D.C.

So I saw firsthand growing up the unbelievable salaries and the job opportunities for people who were in the federal government.

And they basically could never get fired.

And they retire with these unbelievable golden parachutes that we are paying for as taxpayers.

Honestly, every American should be upset about this.

My father was a small business owner, and he used to always say, you'd get so frustrated, you know, that someone needs to come in and run the government like a business.

And I finally feel that we are at this point.

I mean, the bloat and the overspending and everything in that area, in the mid-Atlantic, I'm talking about Maryland and Northern Virginia as well.

And there's a part of Baltimore that's called security because Social Security is so huge there.

I mean, they named a part of Baltimore because of this.

It was pretty sad.

I mean, it was very sad.

In fact, that if you wanted a good job in that area, you applied to the federal government.

And that should be telling all of us something.

So I am so excited about this.

I cannot wait to see.

I think they're doing something with a sort of a ledger kind of a thing that we're going to be able to see online.

But anyway, as I said,

as a American, I am so excited about

this.

And honestly, it's about time.

It's about time this happened.

It is really exciting, Christy.

And

the picture going forward is so bleak.

I mean,

if you look forward and we take our current policies, right?

We don't come up with any new ideas to spend money, which of course we're going to.

There's no new infrastructure plans.

There's none of that.

It's just current policy.

If you project that into the future,

we don't come up with any new wars, no foreign conflicts we're going to get involved in, no new Ukraine situations that we're dumping.

Everything you've outlined here is impossible.

Impossible.

None of that's going to happen.

But if you just keep normal policy right now, by the time 2050 rolls around,

our net interest on the debt, just the interest on the debt, is going to be three times our Defense Department and wars

the cost when it comes to a percentage of GDP.

9%.

That's almost as much as the biggest chunk, which is Social Security and health entitlements, which is going to be 14.3%.

Now, of course, no one wants to cut that.

There's really no appetite for it anywhere.

The last time anyone even looked at it was probably the Paul Ryan days, which got rejected, right?

So you're at like now, that's 23% of GDP.

I mean, that is more.

That's basically what we have right now, our current debt situation, not including the Defense Department, not including other entitlements, not including non-defense discretionary spending.

And this is catastrophic going forward.

And that's only if we get lucky and interest rates don't go up and we don't have any new programs.

And you're telling me no one's going to have a new idea to spend your money in the next 30 years?

Again, that's impossible.

You know what's going to happen.

So it's going to be far worse than that, is what that comes down to.

Far worse.

Far worse.

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This might be the toughest one to make the transition now, don't you?

This might be the most difficult one.

That's a good point.

That's a good point.

This is Glenn's all-time favorite Christmas song, I think.

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All right, let's go to Larry in Illinois.

Hey, Larry, you're on the Glenbeck program with Patton Stu.

Yes, we used to be called, Illinois, I think now we're going to be called Pritzker Stan because he said we are his people.

Anyway, I want to tell you what's going on in Cornfield County here.

We have people are being scared to death.

The chicken littles are running around saying, well, if Trump goes and collects all the illegal aliens, there won't be anybody left to work in the packing plants.

And I asked them, I said, well, who do you think worked in them before the illegal aliens did?

Then you have to ask another question.

How many packing plants are in New York City?

Duh, none.

I said, are there a lot of illegal aliens there?

Yeah.

And I named all these different cities where the illegal aliens are an issue.

I said, I don't think there was a packing plant in any of those.

But when you have, I'm going to call it Democrats because they're the ones spreading this stupidity.

And they go and they try to tell everybody the sky is falling when Trump gets in office.

They've even got it to the point now where Trump, instead of taking office on January 20th, will be taking office on January 1st.

Where are they getting that?

I have no idea, but

I will tell you this.

I grew up around here, and we used to have jokes about, you know, that's the guy who's standing there picking his nose with a broom handle.

you know, one set of teeth per family.

But

there are wealthy people that believe this foolishness, and it's more and more difficult because they're in the business of raising the food that we eat,

and they're scared that Trump's going to ruin the economy, and he's going to ruin the farms.

I said, well, have the Democrats done anything for farmers?

Well, of course, you're met with total silence.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

It's hard to ruin an economy that's already been ruined.

Appreciate it.

Thanks, Larry.

Yeah.

But

I haven't heard the rumor that Trump takes off as January 1st.

No, I have not heard that.

I will say, I do want to thank Jordan Peterson for calling in because he had ⁇ was he a Jordan Peterson impersonator?

Did you notice that?

Larry, you've got a future.

You talk about economy.

I mean, I don't know if how many gigs there are for Jordan Peterson impersonators, but yours is ⁇ you're going to nail one of those gigs if they're out there.

It's a fascinating time.

People on the left are paranoid right now.

God only knows what they're going to be doing as we get into the new year.

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He's got a book coming out called Genesis, Artificial Intelligence, Hope, and the Human Spirit.

And so he said over the weekend, I can assure you that the humans in the rest of the world, all the normal people, because you are all not normal.

Sorry to say, you're special in some way.

Well, sure.

They're at an elite university.

So

they're not little people like we are.

Right.

They're special people.

Ew.

Regular little people?

Ew.

Ick.

I mean, you don't even want to think about those people.

No.

Right.

But he said the normal people are not ready.

Their governments are not ready.

The government processes are not ready.

The doctrines are not ready.

They're not ready for the arrival of this.

He's been advising the U.S.

government and military on technology for years, including AI.

In 2016, he chaired the Defense Innovation Board, which advises the Defense Department, and chaired the U.S.

National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence in 2018.

More recently, he founded White Stork, which is a startup that builds AI attack drones.

Do you know he was doing this?

No.

AI attack drones.

I had no idea.

But he said that the war in Ukraine has turned him into an arms dealer.

Interesting.

But

his vision and concern for AI extends beyond the battlefield.

He said that a child's best friend could be not human in the future, which could present problems.

Yeah.

What are the roles?

He asked.

Is it okay that it's the equivalent of Mark Zuckerberg as just the surrogate parent who gets to decide what your child learns and doesn't learn?

Yeah, that would be an issue for me.

Really?

In what way?

Why would that be?

Because you don't have to do it then.

You don't have to think about it, you know?

Just let Mark handle it.

Right.

I'm not sure that's ideal.

No.

As you would say, it might be considered, at least for me, suboptimal.

Really?

Yeah.

That's a strong statement.

Yeah.

So that should be a concern to, I think, all of us.

On this note, Pat, I was reading on

some guy's Twitter, a Twitter thread of a guy who's talking about, he's like, yeah, I just watched my son or eight-year-old son have a 45-minute conversation with the new chat GPT audio feature.

And he was asking questions about, you know, how the Earth was formed and like, you know, all these kind of basic scientific questions.

And he was, he's like, and the AI was explaining these things perfectly to an eight-year-old, you know, exactly the way you should.

And he

knew all the answers, but also was explaining it in the right way to this kid.

And he's like, it was just incredible.

And it made me think of how bright the future is going to be.

And what was the right way to explain it?

And you know, like using analogies, a kid would understand, right?

Like, that's one thing like Chat GPT is really.

But I mean, completely without

a divine entity, right?

I mean, does this.

Oh, what the answer was on that particular question.

It didn't go into,

I was using that as an example.

I don't even remember if that was the exact topic.

Okay.

But it was something, some basic scientific question.

And the key, you know, kids have like their, they're innocent questions that, you know, and like the AI understood what they were going for and tried to rephrase it and push them in the right direction.

And he was framing it as this like incredible thing.

And I was like,

is it

a 45-minute conversation between a child and an

AI device like really what we want?

I mean, yes.

I think so.

It probably will improve

certain aspects of education.

It probably will, but man, that's a scary.

I just kept thinking of like, why is this kid going to grow up and

care about regular people if what they're used to having every answer given to them by this automated device?

Right.

I don't know.

I wonder what road we're setting people in our next generations down right now.

I do too.

And there's contrasting points of view here from

Eric Schmidt,

like this Stephanie von Guttenberg from Digital Education.

She's a digital education activist.

She says that as this can be a game changer in our time,

it's poised to revolutionize industries, streamline everyday processes, and fundamentally alter our lives.

She says, let's face it, the conversation around AI swings wildly between extremes.

It's either the solution to all our problems or the precursor to

our doom.

But the truth is, as it often does, the truth lies somewhere in between.

Sure, AI has made incredible progress, especially in areas like language processing and image recognition.

However, its impact has been uneven and sometimes underwhelming.

Take customer service bots, for instance.

Despite all the hype, many of these bots still struggle with complex questions and often leave us yearning for a human touch.

And remember all those predictions about autonomous vehicles taking over our roads, we're still grappling with safety and regulatory challenges that keep them from becoming a common sight.

Though it is happening.

It's starting to more and more.

And I think AI is improving the ability for cars.

to drive autonomously.

Yeah, if you know someone who owns a Tesla, they're telling you about this every 12 seconds.

Like they're kind of like,

I got a new update in my car.

Now I could be self-driving.

All right.

All right.

Thank you.

Every time.

Does he confident enough, though, to let the car drive itself?

I think so.

I think those

early adopters are.

You know, you have to be kind of willing to be an early adopter to, I think, really get into that.

But I have a friend who lives in Colorado and came all the way to Texas on his recent visit and barely touched the steering wheel.

He's like, really?

He just got the update

that you no longer have to engage with the wheel.

I think they watch your eyes.

Like there's a camera on your eyes to make sure your eyes are following the road.

You're not just falling asleep.

But you don't, the newest Tesla update has that.

Waymo, which is the completely, you know, it's a taxi company that is completely without driver.

I've seen them when I was in Phoenix on vacation and like one just pulled up.

You're like, what the hell?

Like it's so weird.

No driver, empty car, open the door, you get in, drives away, empty car.

Like it is fully 100% automated.

And they are now up to 150,000 rides a week.

Wow.

They're just expanding to Atlanta as the newest city they're going into.

Are they in Dallas?

Are they in the Metroplex here?

No.

No.

I think it's Phoenix.

I want to say maybe it's L.A.

There's three or four major cities I think they're in now, but 150,000 rides a week already.

And it's cheaper.

It's crazy.

It's cheaper than going with a driver.

Yeah.

So how long?

I mean, you know, I.

I think you're taking your life in your hands.

It should be a little bit cheaper.

But of course, the statistics, you know, I mean, they can point to real statistics.

Like, I want to say, I was just listening to a podcast on this, but they were talking about the average

fatal accident caused by human error is one every 100 million miles.

Okay.

So,

you know,

you know, that's a lot.

Obviously, there's so many cars on the road.

And so 100 million miles, you know,

sounds like a lot, but it's not that much.

Yeah, and it's a lot.

It's, you know, it's a relatively safe, obviously, you drive every day to work back and and forth.

You don't get in fatal accidents all that often.

So that's a good thing.

And so far, I think the Waymo vehicles have done something like 30 million miles total with no fatal accidents.

So they haven't hit that full standard, but they believe they will.

And

they probably will.

I think statistically.

I mean, look at the people you drive next to.

I mean, this is not mystery to anyone who commutes.

There's people who aren't paying attention.

They're looking at their phones.

Like, probably this wind up, this will wind up being better than human beings.

Drivers text while they drive.

Yes.

Constantly.

Yeah.

You can drive by them.

I drive by people all the time.

You glance over at them and they're looking down at their phones.

Yeah.

And they're swerving into your lane.

It happens.

Yeah.

You know, and while these things aren't perfect,

they probably will have a better safety record at the end.

Interesting.

Interesting.

But

there are people who are saying that maybe the AI thing is a little overestimate.

This MIT economist, Darren Asimoglu,

he says he doesn't think that AI will revolutionize our economy in the next 10 years.

Where do you stand on this?

Do you think AI is going to be pretty dominant, pretty revolutionary, or is it overestimated?

Because I think Glenn thinks it's going to be pretty impactful.

Oh, yeah.

Glenn's very much on that side, and he has been for years.

A long time.

And to be fair, it's already had a major impact.

It's already the fastest-growing app we've ever had.

Chat GPT.

Chat GPT is.

And that's just one of the services.

You know, the self-driving thing is coming, and AI is a massive part of that.

So, I mean, like, it is going to be very impactful.

I mean, is it going to take over the world and

cause some sort of matrix-like situation?

I mean, I don't know that I believe that.

I do think that there is a weird

part of us that just doesn't want

chat GPT, like doesn't want to have that experience.

Like, I see, like, you see those pictures, like the fake AI pictures that they use for, you know, you see it on like social media or advertisements.

People are sort of rejecting those.

They don't like the, there's something odd and off.

It's that uncanny valley type of situation.

People don't know exactly what to,

you know, how to, they don't know why they don't like them, but they don't like them.

Yeah, but as

this technology progresses, will that go away?

I mean, I think it'll be perfected to the point where

you won't be able to tell.

It's already there at some level.

Some of the stuff I look at, I'm like, I have no idea.

Honestly, the only reason you kind of, it's like a little too perfect usually.

Yeah.

If you get like a thumb where somebody's eye should be, it's probably...

That's usually

an indicator.

Yeah.

That maybe it messed up a little bit.

But like all the people in the pictures are too good looking.

I notice that one a lot.

And then the AI stuff, like they're just all, you know, perfect examples of every little, you know,

every little subgroup, you know, like the artsy looking girl and the, the, the, the jock looking guy.

They're just all too perfect.

But again, we're used to that with social media already, right?

Like we're already used to that on Instagram.

Yeah.

So I really do think you look at it and I think it's going to wind up doing a lot of stuff for us that we, you know, we don't like.

You know,

have you ever played with it at all?

You ever used ChatGPT for anything?

I really haven't.

I mean, I've played with it just to kind of see how it works.

And it's like, you know, one of the things that is really interesting is, you know, I'm like, my kid will ask me a question and be like, hey, like, what does this mean?

And it's like on his math homework.

And it's like, you kind of remember it.

You kind of can like,

yeah, I remember how to, I remember circumference and how to calculate that.

Yeah, sure.

But like, I don't,

like, you asked me to do it right now.

Like, I don't really remember.

I need a little refresher.

You get a little refresher.

Hey, you know, how did, what does this mean?

How do you calculate this?

And it puts it out in there in two quick paragraphs.

Now, normally normally what you would do is just search the internet to find that.

Yeah.

Right.

So there's not, it's not that much different than what I would have done previously, but it can kind of explain it in a way.

I don't have to click through five links to find the right explanation.

You know, you can do stuff like

if you know how to do something and you're trying to explain it to like your child and you don't know how to explain it.

And you're like, how to explain this to a sixth grader.

And it'll give you an example, like with a little analogy.

And it might not be perfect, but it'll be like, like, oh, I know how I can explain it now.

Like it helps you, it helps with prompts.

It helps get your mind going sometimes when you're, especially when it's something you haven't thought about in a while.

So I haven't used it a lot, but it's, but it could be helpful.

I had a friend who

worked, she worked in like

email marketing and stuff.

Like that was her job.

And she would get an assignment from her boss and be like, hey, can you send out a message about our new offer coming out next week?

Can you write something up?

And she was doing that.

And then all of a sudden she's like, let me try this chat GPT thing.

And it's like, write message with, you know, themed around Halloween with 10% off offer

for this product, hit these few bullet points.

And then it just spits it out.

And it's just like,

instead of spending an hour writing this, it took me two minutes.

And like that type of stuff,

when I hear people say like, we should delay this, we shouldn't use this.

It's just going to happen.

It's going to make people's lives easier.

And when that is the answer, it always wins.

Until Skynet is developed.

Right.

And then we all die.

While we're still alive.

But while we're alive, it'll be great.

Yeah.

Super convenient.

It's Google Maps.

Right.

Right?

It's GPS.

I remember when GPS started popular, we used to get calls all the time.

I won't do that.

That means they're monitoring me.

Well, now every one of your cars has it.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, it's

when.

That monitoring me thing went away really

fast.

The same thing with phones.

Really fast.

I remember when phones first started really hitting and they became smartphones.

oh they're monitoring me i'm not going to give them my information yep i mean even uh our friend keith malanak who you do the show with yes he's he is missed first anal about this in the world in the world he wouldn't even get a toll tag when we were in houston right now yeah no it's all completely out the window he always be like look at this he'll be like look at this message i got on my phone i'm like what is it keith and it's like you know it's some sort of like you have to approve click yes to approve and it's got all these qualifications and they're all like, you will give us your firstborn child.

You will become a sex slave for Mother Russia.

It's all sorts of stuff like that.

And he's like, look at this.

And I'm like, ah, that's crazy.

So what did you do?

He's like, oh, I clicked yes.

I needed the app.

That's where we are.

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Let's check in with Steve in North Carolina.

Hey, Steve, welcome.

Hey, guys.

So, yeah, they just had two months of that free self-drive-in in the Tesla, which is freaking amazing.

If you put dark enough sunglasses on, you can sleep.

And have you done that?

62 miles one way to work, 62 miles back.

Wow.

It is legitimately amazing.

So

Are you totally confident in it in the safety there that you just depend on it?

Yeah, so you put in your address and it just takes you to your driveway.

The only issue you have, I've seen with it, and I've had it free for two months, and it is freaking unbelievable, is roundabouts.

Say in North Carolina, we started putting in roundabouts everywhere and taking out lights.

We have in Texas, too.

Yeah, occasionally,

the first time it hit one, it doesn't, it it it's it's it's like a teenager trying to figure it out.

It's kind of like, ugh, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

But it it'll go around.

It it'll figure it out.

It's just if somebody's behind you, they're like, What's wrong with this guy?

Right, right.

But so it learns, though?

Does it learn all the time?

Yeah, it's learning the whole time.

And if you disengage it, it gives you the option to give a voice message to Tesla.

Like, it'll tell you it's anonymous, but it can't be because it knows my car's serial number.

But you can leave a voice message saying why you disengaged it, you know?

So they're gathering data.

For the last two months, every owner of a Tesla had the ability to get self-driving mode for free.

So they've been gathering for the last 60 days, they've been gathering intel on us and learn.

And I'm sure they're going to adapt.

In fact, I've got a download right now that's sitting there that I got to, and it made me laugh.

You're like, oh, the guy keeps telling me about his download.

I got one right now.

It's so true.

And this is, of course, why the cars are so popular.

It's like everyone

is an advocate for it.

Everyone that has one is like, this is incredible.

This is incredible.

And look, the fact that a car, what we're used to with cars is you get a car and it just gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse as you go.

The technology sucks.

It gets older and more outdated looking.

It's the opposite with Tesla.

It's always getting better, which is really incredible.

That's incredible.

My friend, who

this guy was thinking of when I was thinking of the person who's always telling me about all the Tesla updates, he was in town a couple of weeks ago and he was out

at a shopping center and he was talking to my daughter who was with us and he's like, ready?

You want to see something cool?

And he goes, she's like, yeah, yeah.

He presses a button.

Tesla just comes out of the parking garage, just pulls up.

Oh, wow.

Just pick it up.

Picks pretty cool.

Picks him up.

His car with no one in it picks him up at the curb.

Like that is amazing.

Think about telling someone about that 10 years ago, how crazy that would be.

But

it is amazing.

And here, and I, you know, it's interesting too to see how

the electric car thing will play out now that Elon Musk is like a Trump guy.

Like,

is the left going to turn on these cars?

I kind of feel like they will.

I think so.

I think they'll.

They'll also be like, get global, you're telling me you can control the temperature?

Down to half a degree?

What are you nuts with?

Electric cars?

That's crazy.

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It was quite an eye-opening experience to go through all of that and talk to all these people who have been,

you know, some of them have been studying this stuff for decades.

And just, I can't believe that we can't get this stuff done.

And Trump announced Sean Duffy, a former congressman, as the transportation secretary.

Now, I don't know if he could live up to those Pete Buttigieg standards.

Oh, it's impossible.

That's impossible.

He'd have to do absolutely nothing for four solid years before he could live up to standards like that.

Absolutely nothing.

See, I feel like if Pete Buttigieg only did nothing, it would have been

better.

Yes.

He actually actively hurt the country over and over again.

But Duffy, I think, will be better at that.

One of the things they talked about was going after DEI throughout transportation, including the FAA and air traffic control.

And that has been a massive situation.

Like of all the jobs, you want to just base something on merit, you'd think it would be that, keeping people alive as they fly.

But even there, the government has stepped in and said, you know, skin color and gender are really a little bit more important.

Well, has Duffy fixed sidewalks in South Bend, Indiana?

He has not.

No.

To my knowledge, he has not.

That's what I'm saying.

He has not installed exterior lighting on bridges

in South Bend.

There's another thing.

He hasn't hasn't done either of those things.

So I don't know if he's really qualified for this gig.

Obviously not.

Obviously not.

Someone's like, oh, yeah, Pete Buttigieg, he's a possibility for 2028.

Is he?

Oh, come on now.

Is he now?

Seriously?

Yeah.

When they poll it.

He's a possibility for losing badly.

Put him up, please.

Please.

Him or, again, Kamala Harris, because that's what I keep hearing.

She won the poll.

Yeah.

41% of people said it was Kamala Harris for 2028, which is

do it.

Please.

Wasn't the next highest person, like 8%?

But, I mean, that's just name recognition, right?

Kevin Newsom was, I think, second at 8%.

Elizabeth Warren was listed.

Pete Buddha Judge was listed.

Kind of the names you know.

What I think is going to happen is that, because there's nobody on the bench right now that is known to Americans who can win

the presidency for Democrats.

There's nobody.

So it's going to have to be somebody I think nobody knows about right now.

Yeah, I think so.

At least people are not.

There's no one I'm not familiar with.

It's not like a Bill Clinton type who comes from nowhere, from Arkansas and wins.

To me, the most obvious name there is Josh Shapiro.

Shapiro, maybe?

Who is maybe, I think if there was any winners.

When it comes to the Democratic loss here, it's Josh Shapiro because he was the one that probably should have been picked as the VP.

They went with Walls.

The thing fell apart.

Heaven.

Thank God.

They went with Tampon Tim Walls because what a nightmare he was for them.

I love the fact that that didn't work.

Oh, that was so stupid on their part.

And she said, to be fair to Kamala, she did say she was overtired the day she made the pick.

She did say that.

Yeah, you didn't hear that?

I don't know.

She legitimately said she was exhausted that day

and made the pick.

She was very overtired.

Oh, my.

Now, this is before they lost.

She said this.

Just to show you how well that was going at the time.

So great.

But, like, Josh Shapiro,

I don't think Josh Shapiro would have been the difference in a victory for them.

No.

They lost Pennsylvania by, I think, 1.8 points.

Probably not making that much up.

However, I will say, would it have gotten Bob Casey across the finish line?

Probably.

Maybe.

I mean, he only won by about 20,000 votes.

Right.

Or lost by about 20,000 votes.

Really, really close to McCormick.

That was about

0.2%, I think, percent, right?

It was something like that.

0.2%.

I think it was like 48.8% to 48.6, something very, very close.

Along those lines, it was, yeah, very, very close.

So

there you go.

I mean, I get.

There's the governor of Maryland that some are talking about more.

T.O.

Westmore, yeah.

Westmore.

He's one that's in that rep.

But again, and like you have plenty of time to get familiar.

I mean, no one knew.

Look, we knew who J.D.

Vance was over the past few years.

America didn't.

I mean, they knew the book, maybe a little bit, but like very.

And the movie.

Yeah.

And remember, when he launched, his numbers were not good.

Yeah.

He started that with the worst numbers of all four candidates and ended with the best numbers of all four candidates because he's great he was great he ran a great campaign that was the best vp campaign i think i've ever seen it's he was tremendous i mean i can't think really of a a better pick for trump than jd vance

uh

somebody who could express themselves and the trump agenda as well as jd vance maybe the vake could have um yeah i think jd was the right pick though yeah i think so so too.

I think so.

And obviously, I mean, first of all, it worked.

They won.

But secondly, I think, you know, when it came to that pick, it was an interesting moment because it was sort of a luxury pick for Trump.

Trump was up by a lot at that point.

Joe Biden was claiming he was going to stay in the race.

And that pick, you could have argued at the time, it didn't check any of the boxes that we were told over and over again were going to be checked.

And I kept saying this on the air.

Like, what makes us think Donald Trump's going to be like, no, it's got to be a woman.

Like, when has he ever made a decision like that he's gonna pick the person he thinks is best he's not gonna pick it if he's if that would have been a woman he would have picked her right if he's picking based on identity politics though then he then it doesn't seem like a very Trumpian pick the whole point of his I mean I mean the central argument for his candidacy is like I'm not gonna do that But everyone's like, whoa, he's gonna pick Nikki Haley.

What?

No, he's not.

So

I thought J.D.

Vance would be the pick.

And one of the reasons why I thought he would be the pick was because he checks checks the boxes of someone who's very competent, who can come on in all these shows.

He can argue in adversarial circumstances.

He can tell a story in a friendly.

He did a great job with that.

But also, it's a sort of a legacy pick for Trump.

I mean, Trump's got four more years unless someone alters the Constitution, which I think Trump's kind of friendly with that idea.

He keeps tossing it out there, and it's like, he kind of wants this to happen.

But in theory, he's going to be done in four years.

And when he is done, he needs somebody who can actually advocate for some version of what his belief system is.

And I will say, the one weakness of the Trump movement so far is that no one else seems to be able to execute it.

You know, you can, I'm just saying, like, you might not like some of the ideas, you might love some of the ideas.

But as far as a political success, whether candidates can win, most of the candidates that have tried to run as Trumpish Republicans have not done very well with it.

Many of them have lost winnable races.

Trump seems to be able to overwhelm that.

That's why I thought maybe the only viable option for 2028 might be a Trump like

Don Jr.

Somebody like that.

I mean, it's

definitely possible.

We are definitely

first or second in any of the polls where they're speculating on 28.

This is just me.

I might recommend we move on.

There's nothing wrong.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.

They've got great people in the family.

But we complained a lot about Bush's and Clintons constantly running over and over and over again.

Like, I don't know.

Maybe like.

Maybe it's J.D.

Vance next time.

I mean, I think Vance is the obvious one for 2028 if this four years goes well.

It has to go well.

Yeah.

But he's obviously, he's the big favorite going into this because of not only,

you know, obviously you just kind of assumed the VP would be the pick, but he also really did a good job.

I think everyone recognized this went very, very well for JD Vance, especially after the really rough rollout where he was taking a beating at the beginning.

He was able to push all the way back and really improve his standing.

That's one of my favorite things is that they came out of the gate with, he's weird.

But the more people saw him, the less weird he was, and the more weird they were.

So that blew up in their faces.

I mean, you

is an argument to be made that the walls pick cost her the election.

Oh,

I'm not entirely sure it's true.

I think it's in part true.

It's not crazy.

It's not.

You know, we did that Pulsecast thing, Pat, where we combined all the election models and polls and

prediction markets, all that stuff into one number.

And, you know, there's a move.

It goes back and forth.

It got to be right, did it not?

Yeah, it did pick Trump to win.

But when you go back and forth, there was like these backs, you know, big arcs, right?

Like it started off with Trump kind of ahead and then Kamala's initial rise.

Then, you know, Trump kind of comes back, takes the lead right before that first debate.

The debate happens, kind of switches it.

Kamala goes back into the league.

And then there's the last movement, which is basically the movement from Kamala being in the lead slightly to Trump being in the lead, both in

close quarters.

But that last move that keeps Trump in the lead until the end begins on the day of the VP debate.

Oh, wow.

I mean,

I don't know that you can blame the whole thing on that.

I mean, I think Trump had a

lot of something to do with it.

I think it.

I mean, I think Vance helped.

Yeah.

You know, he certainly didn't hurt.

He did.

And, you know, obviously.

Wallace did hurt.

Right.

Like, Wallace did hurt.

Yeah.

I mean, the central reason Donald Trump won the election is because Joe Biden sucks.

I mean, it was a very uphill battle for anyone on the Democratic side to win that election because Trump's presidency is remembered positively.

Biden's presidency is remembered negatively.

And just going into it with that is very difficult to overcome.

But the walls pick really didn't help and it hurt a lot.

It was, you know, he was terrible.

He was terrible.

And it made me feel like this.

Anybody disliked him more than you and I?

No.

I could not

stand that.

I can't stand him.

Oh my gosh.

I'm so glad we don't have to see him anymore.

Oh, and you know what?

We're never going to have to think about him ever again.

That's true.

He's going to be like Tim Kaine.

who just honestly like is a trivia

right

right like he was hillary's vp and no one can remember that nope i mean legitimately people who are very engaged politically at the very moment

i haven't i haven't thought about him in eight years and he just won election in 2024 again re-election wow but like no one thinks about him because he was terrible he was a total non he was a giant zilch but compared to tim walls he was george washington yeah because he didn't i don't think he actively hurt the campaign he just did nothing to hit right people forgot she even made a pick.

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You know, we were talking about

the demise of the Democrats in this election.

What's really fantastic is that they still, either they don't get it or they just don't want to admit it.

And that's going to help in the long run um there's still the huffington post for instance just published a headline trump just ran the most racist campaign in modern history and won

yeah that's not what happened no that is not what happened not what occurred

it's weird because he a lot of the hispanic voters that went his way must really have a strange

yeah i don't know didn't he actually outright win hispanic voters or was it close right yeah I actually was just looking at this today.

I think it was a plus 10 for the Democrats.

Okay, that's and that's essentially a win for Republicans.

It's incredible.

Let's see.

I've got this article.

I was going to bring this up today.

We never got to it.

It's from Nate Cohn, how Democrats lost their base and their message.

Here's the breakdowns by racial group.

Excuse me.

Black voters towards Republicans 19 points.

So Republicans plus 19 went from Democrats plus 91 to Democrats plus 72.

So still, they're Democratic voters.

Still diagnosed.

But a 19-point shift.

That's huge.

Hispanic, 29-point shift, went from Democrats 39 to Democrats plus 10.

Wow.

Asian voters, a 17-point shift to Republicans.

Other racial group, 17 points toward Republicans.

White voters with no degree, 13 points toward Republicans.

Non-white with a bachelor's, 21 points.

Non-white, no degree, 37 points.

Non-white with no degree.

And we were hearing in some polls that we were going to lose the white non-college educated vote, right?

There was a survey that I was seeing, I don't know, somewhere right before the election that it looked bad for that group.

Yeah,

Trump won them by 36 points.

Oh, my gosh.

That was a pretty easy one.

But same thing with age groups: 18 to 29, Republicans plus 14, 30 to 44, Republicans plus 8, 45 to 64, Republicans plus 8.

Incredible.

Pretty much every group that they've depended on forever,

with the exception of like older voters, went slightly toward Democrats, but still remained on the Republican side overall.

Amazing.

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