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Speaker 2 Day before the election, we have everything you need to keep up to date on today's program, including the death of our first patriot in the fight to save our republic, Peanut the Squirrel.

Speaker 2 Also, Dave McCormick joins the program, running to unseat Bob Casey for Pennsylvania's Senate seat. We talk also to in the full version of the program, Selena Zito, who

Speaker 2 puts her money where her mouth is on today's program. How's this election going to turn out?

Speaker 2 And Jeffrey Tucker is on to talk about the real-time censorship potent on the internet archive and how trustworthy the lost info might be if it's ever able to be recovered. You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 3 We just learned that they have euthanized Peanut.

Speaker 4 And the raccoon as well.

Speaker 3 And the raccoon as well.

Speaker 3 I am so sorry.

Speaker 3 This must be really difficult for you.

Speaker 6 It not only tears my family apart, but Peanut was the cornerstone of our non-profit animal rescue. And 10 to 12 DEC officers raided my house as if I was a drug dealer.

Speaker 6 I was sat outside my house for five hours. I had to get a police escort to my bathroom.
I wasn't even allowed to feed my rescue horses breakfast or lunch.

Speaker 6 I was sat there like a criminal after they interrogated my wife to check out her immigration status, then proceeded to ask me if I had cameras in my house, then proceeded to go through every cabinet, nook, and cranny of my house for a squirrel and a raccoon.

Speaker 3 They got a search warrant?

Speaker 6 They got a search warrant.

Speaker 6 Four departments and a judge signed off on a search warrant for a squirrel and a raccoon.

Speaker 6 And then they took them and killed them.

Speaker 4 Why did they go through all that to get a search warrant for an animal that had been with you very safely? And the world witnessed this for seven years.

Speaker 4 Why now suddenly did they show up with a search warrant and

Speaker 4 take these animals?

Speaker 6 We haven't a clue. We don't know who made

Speaker 6 the complaints. Again, Peanut was a indoor squirrel not harming anybody.
He's been with us for seven years. Not a single complaint was ever filed for this animal.

Speaker 6 We had him for seven and a half years. He became the world's most famous squirrel.
We weren't hiding him by any means. He was all over TikTok.

Speaker 6 He became the first squirrel on TikTok to ever hit a million followers. He did every news station around the world.
He's helped people.

Speaker 6 He's helped kids gather joy.

Speaker 6 And then we started a non-profit animal rescue called Peanuts Freedom Farm to help animals like Peanut fight a good fight when they're in a neglected case or they're sitting in a slaughter auction.

Speaker 6 And he was the cornerstone of our life and our organization. We used his platform to help raise money for the 300 animals we have at our sanctuary.

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Speaker 2 I rest my case, Your Honor.

Speaker 2 What

Speaker 2 the hell is that?

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 do I feel bad for them? Yes, I really feel bad for them. Do I think this is the weaponization of government? Yes.
Some anonymous person made a complaint, apparently said he might have rabies.

Speaker 2 The person came in without the permission of the people and grabbed him and he bit him. Of course he did.
My dog might bite you too if you are aggressive to my family.

Speaker 2 What the hell is this?

Speaker 2 Now, I don't know about you, but I suspect

Speaker 2 Karen.

Speaker 2 That's what I suspect. That's who I suspect.
All Karens should be investigated today. And let me make this promise.

Speaker 2 If Donald Trump is elected. Oh, all the Karens will be investigated and probably

Speaker 2 put in a camp someplace. They're already building it.
You know they are.

Speaker 2 This is an insane story. Insane.
And

Speaker 2 it is

Speaker 2 so bizarre when you're talking about the actual content of what occurred here. You're talking about a squirrel and a raccoon looking as a pet, all of that.
It is also one of the most egregious.

Speaker 2 abuses of government power I can ever remember. It's like one of those things similar to like women's sports where we talk about the transgender issue.

Speaker 2 There's a million different things that are really important about the transgender issue. Women's sports is not probably number one.

Speaker 2 The fact that, you know, a lot of medals get taken away, it's dramatic. I have kids.
I have a girl who this might happen to.

Speaker 2 So it's concerning, but it's not the most serious part. It's the part though that brings it home like the most.

Speaker 2 Moms and dads are like, wait a minute, my daughter's going to get hit in the face with a volleyball at 120 miles an hour. What are we talking about here? Right.
Right.

Speaker 2 This is kind of, in a a weird way, sort of the same. It is.
You don't think about it. It's a squirrel being killed.
Like they get run over 9 trillion times a day. Can you stop

Speaker 2 just holding up the squirrel while you forget Fred the raccoon? I know. He's getting the shaft on this one.

Speaker 2 Poor Fred. Poor Fred.
But I mean, like, do you,

Speaker 2 if they will do this to

Speaker 2 a family that is has documented all of this, millions and millions of people follow this. They see the squirrel is this most little adorable thing, like jumping around on its owners.

Speaker 2 And like, it's crazy. The fact they would do this, knowing how visible it was, just shows that they don't care.
You think they care about you?

Speaker 2 These people have millions and millions of people watching their daily life with this. They took the squirrel and murdered it

Speaker 2 for no reason at all.

Speaker 2 In the most visible way possible. they will not care about what your little complaint is.

Speaker 2 Let me just point out:

Speaker 2 for no reason possible. No reason.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Let me just quote Jen

Speaker 2 early voter Rubin from the Washington Post. Oh, God.
Quote: The MAGA squirrel deserved to die.

Speaker 2 Now, I think this is both

Speaker 2 an absolutely ridiculous clown world story, but I also think it is a microcosm of everything this election is about.

Speaker 2 Everything.

Speaker 2 You know, they call Donald Trump vengeful.

Speaker 2 They're going to get the MAGA squirrel and kill him.

Speaker 2 These people with peace in their hearts, these animal lovers, the ones who just love the planet, take an innocent squirrel that if he had a MAGA hat on, I can guarantee you he didn't know what the hat was.

Speaker 2 Not that he didn't know it was a MAGA hat. He didn't even know it was a hat!

Speaker 2 And they kill him.

Speaker 2 This is nuts. Is that a squirrel joke? You got a squirrel joke? No, you just said it.
Is it nuts?

Speaker 2 You said this is nuts.

Speaker 2 That's the ultimate squirrel joke. You made it and didn't even realize it.

Speaker 2 I really am shocked by this, though.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Do you get, I don't know, it's funny because I don't, were the parents, did the

Speaker 2 people who, the parents, did the parents of the squirrel,

Speaker 2 are their politics known at all? Like, are they? I don't know. Apparently,

Speaker 2 she deleted this post because she started to get hammered for it. Okay.

Speaker 2 But Jen Rubin, Washington Post, she seems to know it was a MAGA squirrel. I haven't asked the squirrels in my area who they're for.

Speaker 2 So there's no little teeny squirrel signs that I've seen for Trump around any of the trees that I have in my head. I have heard that particular squirrel peanut supports lower corporate income taxes.

Speaker 2 So I am concerned. But like, it became a political issue.
Not everything is political. But not because,

Speaker 2 as far as I know, these were like big MAGA people who had a squirrel. It's because the people who want your squirrel to live are conservatives.

Speaker 2 The people who don't want the government to have the power to invade your home and take your pets and murder them for no reason,

Speaker 2 that's now a political issue because the left wants the government to have that power. They do.
They want them to be able to do that. And they might say, well, I love my pet.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about? I'm voting for Kamala Kamala Harrison. I love my pet.
It doesn't matter. What you're advocating for is the power of the government to be able to do this stuff to you.

Speaker 2 And you believe that it will never do it to you.

Speaker 2 I got news for it. I'm selfish, by the way.
Incredibly selfish. Incredibly selfish.
You don't care about anybody else because you don't think it might happen to you.

Speaker 2 That's not, that is an incredibly selfish instinct.

Speaker 2 You know, like... But you have that already.
Who did I see over the weekend talk about,

Speaker 2 you know, people wonder how

Speaker 2 people just in Germany just went full-fledged Nazi? And he said, look what happened with COVID.

Speaker 2 He's like, I'll bet you at least 30% of our population couldn't wait to turn a neighbor in because it signaled their virtue.

Speaker 2 First among them, Tim Wallace, by the way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Put a hotline up. Put a hotline up.
Report your neighbors if they're not handling an illness the way you want them to. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 This man might be vice president of the United States after he did that. Just that.
Forget the fact that he allowed cities to burn to the ground and all the other crap he's been doing.

Speaker 2 Well, this time, this time they're not taking any chances. They have put the National Guard on standby

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 2 Seattle, Washington, Portland, and Washington, D.C.

Speaker 2 You know, all those deeply red areas.

Speaker 2 A lot of tiki tortures parades going on. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Yeah, they're worried about all the Trump supporters there, you know.

Speaker 2 Well, Jesse Simollette was one of the first that

Speaker 2 let us know that MAGA Country isn't exactly where we think it is. Sometimes it's downtown Chicago.
Sometimes it's Portland. Portland, Oregon.
Right.

Speaker 2 That's MAGA Country for you. Well,

Speaker 2 we have infiltrated all those areas with the squirrels.

Speaker 2 So, and they are pissed.

Speaker 2 All right, no matter what it is that gets you out of bed in the morning, who would have thought the day before the election we'd be talking about? We're talking about a lead story.

Speaker 2 We're talking about a squirrel.

Speaker 2 And like, it's so perfect to like the meme of like what's distracting you, squirrel! Like, it's actually coming true

Speaker 2 in real life.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. It's going to be a tough couple days.
A couple of weeks, a couple months.

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Speaker 2 Tomorrow, all eyes are on Pennsylvania. That's our first sign of how things are going to be going.
And Dave McCormick is running for the Senate in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 He is running against

Speaker 2 Casey, who is, he's a dream come true.

Speaker 2 Dave is a bronze star,

Speaker 2 I guess, recipient.

Speaker 2 He went to West Point. He was the CEO of Free Markets, a successful tech startup.

Speaker 2 And he's now running for Senate. God only knows why, but.

Speaker 2 you know, he's been to war, so it won't be much different.

Speaker 2 And Dave is joining us now. Hi, Dave.

Speaker 5 Hey, Glenn, how are you?

Speaker 2 I'm really good. I'm really good.
How are you feeling today?

Speaker 5 You know, I feel great. I mean, at home stretch,

Speaker 5 this was always going to be a super tight race, but what's happening is it feels like there's a momentum shift. And, you know, in my race, it's really a choice between change and the status quo.

Speaker 5 And a guy who is me, in my case, a seventh-generation Pennsylvanian, as you said, grew up in rural Pennsylvania, went to West Point, Ranger School, 82nd Airborne Division, Combat Tour in Iraq, and then ran a business in Pennsylvania against a guy that's been in elected office 30 years,

Speaker 5 has, you know, comes from a famous political family, has been a weak leader. When the bullets start flying, he ducks, and he votes 98.6% of the time with Biden Harris.

Speaker 5 And so if people want the status, go ahead, tell them on the campaign trail, vote Casey. If you want change,

Speaker 5 that's what I'm running for to bring about change and hopefully work with President Trump and the White House to put forward a common sense agenda to get our economy back on track and

Speaker 5 make ourselves energy dominant, which will be because of Pennsylvania's natural gas and secure the border and stop this scourge of fentanyl.

Speaker 5 And so I think three-quarters of Pennsylvanians think that we're heading in the wrong direction, which is why I think President Trump will prevail, and I think I will, too.

Speaker 2 You know, because

Speaker 2 your slogan is time for a change. And I really think, Dave, that

Speaker 2 coming. You know, one way or another, deep change is coming.
If she wins, I think we are no longer the constitutional Republican four years that we are now.

Speaker 2 And Donald Trump made some mistakes in his first term, but he's learned from them and he has gotten uber sharp on everything. He knows what he's doing and he's talking about profound change.

Speaker 2 What I don't understand is how people

Speaker 2 see Kamala as an agent of change.

Speaker 5 You know, I think

Speaker 5 it's wearing off here in Pennsylvania. I think Pennsylvania may be the one place where the Democrats would have been wiser to put Joe Biden forward

Speaker 5 because Biden had a claim to Pennsylvania. He had campaigned here.
He knew every union leader, every county commissioner. But Kamala Harris, in her own words,

Speaker 5 wants, in her own words, in the last three or four years, wants to ban fracking transition energy workers, mandatory buybacks of your guns, legalization of illegal immigrants, federal benefits for them, defund the police, eliminate private health care insurance.

Speaker 5 I mean, this is a radical agenda that's completely out of touch with Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 And the more Pennsylvanians see that, the more that they're coming to the conclusion that we need the strength and common sense policies of President Trump.

Speaker 5 But it's also a Bob Casey thing. Because if, God forbid, Kamala Harris is in there, Bob Casey is a sure vote.
And, you know, somebody said this to me the other day, Glenn, which really

Speaker 5 struck a negative chord with me. But somebody said, are you running for the Bob Casey seat? And I said, I'm not running for the Bob Casey seat.
This isn't an entitlement because his name's Casey.

Speaker 5 You know, you got to earn this seat every single day, every election.

Speaker 5 And he's failed people across our great Commonwealth. And that's...

Speaker 5 That's why I think you're seeing the movement in the polls.

Speaker 5 What everybody would say is that there's a huge push in my direction, in my race, but also President Trump's picked up some steam here as well. And I think we're going to see that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 How do you feel about the security of the election?

Speaker 5 You know, I feel two things at the same time. I feel like there's been an enormous effort.

Speaker 5 Thousands of people will be at election sites, 7,000 observers, 500 lawyers.

Speaker 5 I think there's a lot of vigilance, but we have to be vigilant because we've already seen cases where they're trying to suppress the voting in Bucks County by ending early voting early.

Speaker 5 We've seen what looks to be fraudulent registrations in Lancaster County,

Speaker 5 which the district attorney there is prosecuting.

Speaker 5 So I think we've got a lot of focus, a lot of resources on it, which should give us some comfort.

Speaker 5 But I also think that we got to play whack-a-mole and be extremely vigilant to make sure any indication of cheating or fraud is dealt with immediately. And

Speaker 5 so I'm paranoid about it, but I also feel like we're very focused. And this is one of the areas where President Trump's campaign and mine have been very coordinated.

Speaker 5 Michael Lotley, who's the chairman of the RNC, has made Pennsylvania ground zero for his efforts. So listen, let's talk about it tomorrow or on Wednesday, but I feel like we're pretty focused on it.

Speaker 2 We're talking to Dave McCormick. He's running for Senate in the state of Pennsylvania.
Dave,

Speaker 2 Kamala Harris has said that she is not now against banning fracking. She's turned that around, apparently.

Speaker 2 Although she made a big speech over the weekend outlining the most expansive green energy

Speaker 2 global warming agenda, and she's bragging about that to her supporters. Where is Casey on all of this? And do you believe either of them?

Speaker 7 Yeah, listen,

Speaker 5 I think it's both deceptive and disgraceful. And I've talked a lot about this on the campaign trail.

Speaker 5 You know, for your listeners, if they went to my website, davemcormickpa.com, they'll see I've laid out all my positions on energy and what we need to do and everything else.

Speaker 5 But two points. Number one, we should not trust them on this because Kamala Harris has had a long history of being

Speaker 5 for eliminating fossil fuel consumption in general. And Bob Casey has voted time and again for the FRAC Act, which essentially puts a huge burden on

Speaker 5 fracking companies. He's supported the closing down of the Keystone pipeline.

Speaker 5 He's been absolutely in favor of all these restrictions on natural gas, the EPA mandate, which is going to create much more demand for electric vehicles at the expense of combustion engines.

Speaker 5 But the most important thing to take away here is you don't actually have to ban fracking, to ban fracking.

Speaker 5 What you do is you put all sorts of red tape and regulations, you increase the liabilities, you make it harder and harder for private sector to invest. That's what they're doing.

Speaker 5 And so, you know, this whole conversation about ban or not ban, ban, what we should be talking about is how we not just have fracking, but we double, triple, quadruple the amount of fracking taking place in Pennsylvania because it's critical to our economic well-being.

Speaker 5 It's critical to our national security. And here's the irony, Len: it's critical to the environment.

Speaker 5 That natural clean gas exported around the world will be the best thing we could ever do to reduce carbon emissions.

Speaker 5 So, sorry to go on so long, but that is really an area where I think the Democrats are completely out to lunch, and Bob Casey

Speaker 5 is a rubber stamp vote for all this extreme green agenda.

Speaker 2 So we have

Speaker 2 one candidate

Speaker 2 talking about green agenda, which will change everything. The other candidate has now floated, Donald Trump has floated even no taxes, no income tax.

Speaker 2 The things that he is advocating for are massive, just massive change.

Speaker 2 And in my view, pretty good.

Speaker 2 Are you prepared to fight those fights in the Senate?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I really am. I'm prepared.
I mean, I think, and I say this all the time, I think we can't have incrementalism.

Speaker 5 We can't have incrementalism in terms of dealing with our energy industry or in terms of

Speaker 5 our economy and the spending cuts we need to do to bring this terrible inflation in place. So the economy of Biden, Harris, and Casey has been devastating for working families in Pennsylvania.
60%

Speaker 5 of the families of Pennsylvania live paycheck to paycheck, and prices have gone up by more than 20%, and wages haven't kept up.

Speaker 5 So we've got to get rid of all incrementalism in terms of getting our country back on track. And I'm going to fight those battles for a number of reasons.

Speaker 5 I deeply believe we need to do this to save our country. But, you know, I'm not doing this to become a career politician.

Speaker 5 I've term limited myself, which many people people said I should not do, but I'm going to do this for two terms if I'm honored enough to get the opportunity. I'm not going there to make small changes.

Speaker 5 I'm going there to shake things up. I agree with a lot of the things President Trump has said in his agenda that he's laid out very specifically.
Kamala Harris has not laid out an agenda at all.

Speaker 5 Donald Trump has done so. And the place where I think we need the most dramatic change is the border.

Speaker 5 And I'm going going to say something here, Gunn, which has got me into some trouble, but I really believe it. We not only need to secure the border,

Speaker 5 finish the wall, go through the process of getting the illegal immigrants back across the border to their home countries.

Speaker 5 I think we need to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations, day one, and go across the border.

Speaker 5 with our drones, with our military, destroy the manufacturing facilities, destroy the distribution facilities.

Speaker 5 This scourge of fentanyl has killed 116,000 Americans last year.

Speaker 5 And to put that in perspective, as a guy who served in the military, we lost 58,000

Speaker 5 men and women in Vietnam killed in action in eight years. So last year in America, we had two Vietnams because of the cartels.
invading our country with fentanyl,

Speaker 5 killing our innocent young people who don't even know they're taking fentanyl. So that's the kind of tough, dramatic leadership I think we need.

Speaker 5 And I think President Trump's going to bring that, and I'll be with him when he does.

Speaker 2 Dave, thank you very much. This is Dave McCormick.
He is running for Senate in Pennsylvania. You can find him at DaveMcCormickPA.com.
DaveMcCormickPA.com. You can also follow him on Twitter.

Speaker 2 Best of luck to you tomorrow, Dave. Thank you.
Hey, thanks.

Speaker 5 Thanks for having me. Have a great day.

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Speaker 2 What would the world be like if

Speaker 2 all of a sudden you went into the library, we were a

Speaker 2 country based in books, try to think back with me, old timer, and all of the books were suddenly gone. And then

Speaker 2 a month later, they're put back on the shelf and they open the library, but

Speaker 2 you're not sure they put all the books back. You're not sure what happened to any of those books.
You're not sure if any of those books were changed.

Speaker 2 How could you trust history? Well, we're in a digital age now, and there is something that I don't really understand that's been going on for the last few weeks. It's archive.org.

Speaker 2 On October 8th,

Speaker 2 the servers were hit with a denial of service attack, and it took down the service, but also

Speaker 2 led to catastrophic failure.

Speaker 2 This is the way people go back and say, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Is that what they really said?

Speaker 2 Wait, they believe that now, but what did they say back in, you know,

Speaker 2 2016, 2020, last week? Remember how everything was changed on Kamala Harris overnight? They just started changing.

Speaker 2 You've lost now the ability to go back and see what the original story says.

Speaker 2 Now, is this just a,

Speaker 2 I don't know,

Speaker 2 a coincidence? A really, really bad coincidence?

Speaker 2 Because there's some other things that have changed

Speaker 2 that look like if it is, it's a pretty big and bad coincidence. Jeffrey Tucker is with us.
He's the founder and president, Brownstone Institute. Jeffrey, how are you?

Speaker 7 Good. And Glenn, thank you for describing this problem so well.
You have a way with metaphors.

Speaker 2 You know, it's,

Speaker 2 I don't, I don't think I understand the depth, and I've read up on it a bit this weekend, and it seems like some people are saying it's no big deal. It's going to be fixed.

Speaker 2 Other people are saying, no, no, no, this is a really big deal.

Speaker 7 Well, I got a communication from

Speaker 7 the company itself that said

Speaker 7 there's no big deal. We have been

Speaker 7 from the 8th. of October, we've been mirroring the entire internet just that we can't make it live yet because

Speaker 7 we're not quite stable. And my initial feeling was, oh, good, okay.

Speaker 7 But,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 we've all lost trust in basically everything.

Speaker 7 So I decided to respond to the guy, and I said, well, I guess I'm a little confused. If you have been

Speaker 7 mirroring all the internet since the eighths,

Speaker 7 but why can't you make that at least alive in a read-only mode?

Speaker 7 And I didn't get an answer.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 7 I feel like I might be onto something. And

Speaker 7 I still smell a rat here. First of all, there is the issue of timing.
I mean, they have been involved in mirroring websites

Speaker 7 since the browser was invented in 1995.

Speaker 7 And I can see on archive.org now websites that I built in 1995, 1996.

Speaker 7 They're there.

Speaker 7 And this this has been consistently mirroring the internet

Speaker 7 since that time until, of all things,

Speaker 7 30 days before

Speaker 7 what many people consider to be the most

Speaker 7 momentous election in modern times. And suddenly, a DDoS attack hits the site and they stop.

Speaker 7 And here we are

Speaker 7 now. And people kept thinking, oh, it's a temporary glitch.
it'll come out. But they kept the company kept saying, No, well, it was worse than we thought, and we're working really hard.

Speaker 7 Oh, now here's a read-only version, so you can't,

Speaker 7 so it's not real-time, but you can read all the archives. Well, I went to the site,

Speaker 7 I'm not sure if I was the first one to notice this, but I think I was the first one to really sound the alarm that nothing is available since October 8th. And so we don't know.
And

Speaker 7 just keep in mind, so they mirror prominent websites several times a day, sometimes four or five times a day, so that you can tell the difference between the morning headline and the afternoon headline.

Speaker 7 And I've used this tool quite frequently to discover, for example, all the Kakami edicts issued by the CDC

Speaker 7 from 2020 that they they deleted a year later. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to I found it was the CDC

Speaker 7 that imposed the rent moratorium, pushed for all the filtration systems that later turned out to be a huge waste of time, all the craze plexiglass stuff that festooned the world.

Speaker 7 Another thing, Glenn, that they did, and I think this was on March 12, 2020, was urge the entire country

Speaker 7 to,

Speaker 7 in the language of a mandate, you know they you could never tell in those days what was all what was required and what wasn't but in the language of a mandate mail in ballots okay

Speaker 7 so it's in other words sending our election systems you know the very core of what it means to be a democratic society into dramatic upheaval in ways that everyone

Speaker 7 knew would lead to massive fraud. So that happened on March 12th.
Was it with the permission of the Trump administration? I doubt it. But in any case, after the election that November,

Speaker 7 that instruction went away. So it's only thanks to archive.org that we know this.
Another example is the World Health Organization, for a period of,

Speaker 7 I would say, a fortnight, completely changed this definition of herd immunity to exclude natural immunity. Right.

Speaker 7 They said that you can only obtain herd immunity through pharmaceutical products.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 7 then they changed it back again. So we can, we only, and I've

Speaker 7 discovered a lot of these things, but only by using archive.org.

Speaker 5 So this is extremely important.

Speaker 7 As we speak, there are three weeks, three full weeks of the internet missing. Now,

Speaker 7 I have a little bit of a coda here.

Speaker 7 Before this interview was about to take place, I cited a check on the status of the real-time mirroring and where we stood and what was available in real-time.

Speaker 7 And I looked at brownstone.org, our website, and I found that it's still not being mirrored. The latest copy they have is from October 8th.
But then I went to the New York Times,

Speaker 7 and boom,

Speaker 2 two

Speaker 7 instances of mirroring the site yesterday.

Speaker 7 Now, I have not had time to research how many other sites are being mirrored and which ones are not being mirrored. But let me just put it this way.

Speaker 7 How can you not smell a rat? You know,

Speaker 7 it's looking pretty bad.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I can understand a longer-term

Speaker 2 problem

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 we're just taking pages out of books in a library. And what are you talking about? That page never was there.

Speaker 2 I can understand that longer term. What do you think their short term, if they are turning it back on, what would you think the short-term advantage, what did they do?

Speaker 7 Well, based on the evidence

Speaker 7 that I'm seeing now,

Speaker 7 it's only

Speaker 7 the sort of...

Speaker 7 massively popular, sort of regime-friendly publications that are being mirrored and others are not. And that would be consistent

Speaker 7 with the Biden-Harris administration's agenda for the Internet, generally speaking. Because

Speaker 7 I think it was about two years ago, they issued a thing called the Declaration on the Future of the Internet.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 7 that that excluded the traditional

Speaker 7 injunction that it should be

Speaker 7 a place of free expression and that there should be free speech on the internet. That's every declaration on the internet.
Future always had that.

Speaker 7 They deleted that and changed it into what they called a stakeholder model. Oh, geez.
And they and they mention,

Speaker 7 and by the way, they put all this in, you know,

Speaker 7 fake calligraphy, you know, with a fancy pants border, you know, as if to codify it into all of the human mind and all this gibberish. But the stakeholders they mention

Speaker 7 are the usual suspects. So

Speaker 7 major NGOs

Speaker 7 and nonprofits, universities,

Speaker 7 large companies, and government.

Speaker 7 Okay, so those are the stakeholders that are going to control the content.

Speaker 7 Now, you read the Declaration on the Future of the Internet, it's clear that what they want is to turn the entire internet in some version of 1970s television, replacing 1800 numbers

Speaker 7 with credit card fields. I mean, that's it.
So everything

Speaker 7 else is slated for some kind of termination. And that includes Rumble and X and Substack and probably your site and mine and everybody else.
And that's the long-term vision.

Speaker 7 Getting from here to there is not going to be easy because the First Amendment stands in their way.

Speaker 7 So as a result of that, you have to find surreptitious methods

Speaker 7 of obtaining the same results incrementally. So one of those, and here again, yeah, call me a conspiracy theorist if you want.

Speaker 7 One incremental part of the method would be to eliminate the mirroring of sites,

Speaker 7 the sites slated for termination in real time, so that in effect you don't exist. Nothing I've posted since October 8th exists in the official internet archive.

Speaker 7 And that's probably true for you too.

Speaker 7 So we are not, we are, our activities day to day, our writings are not being recorded by the internet's big engine.

Speaker 7 And incidentally, yes, there are other alternatives to archive.org, but nothing. that mirrors the entire World Wide Web in real time.

Speaker 7 All the other engines require sort of manual operation by users and are not in any sense comprehensive. So this is the only one,

Speaker 7 which is tragic.

Speaker 7 There should be hundreds and thousands of these, but there's not. Google can do it, but they stopped their services

Speaker 7 of running real-time caching of websites

Speaker 7 last year, I think.

Speaker 2 That's interesting.

Speaker 7 So things are tightening up. And in my article with Debbie Lehriman, we also chronicled the fascinating way in which Internet search has changed.
You've undoubtedly noticed this.

Speaker 7 I think most astute really have. You go to Google now, and you don't get crowdsourced, community-curated content of credible sources

Speaker 7 as Fed. The old algorithms used to look at how much a site is LinkedIn to.

Speaker 2 And if people found it useful.

Speaker 7 That was the driving force. It was imperfect, but at least it was democratic.
And you could cross-check that with a website called Alexa, which has been around since 1995. It was acquired by Amazon

Speaker 7 in 2000.

Speaker 7 And the idea of Alexa was that it had public rankings of web traffic.

Speaker 7 And a practical example of this, if there's a website that says,

Speaker 7 Glenn Beck is a bad guy, and you should have nothing to do with him.

Speaker 7 You might be slightly bugged by that, but then you could look up at Alexa and notice that this website is hardly ever seen by anybody, hardly ever used by anybody.

Speaker 7 Therefore, it would be unlikely to be the smile. It would be unlikely to hit yeah,

Speaker 7 it would not have any kind of impact on the public mind, right? And so you would dismiss it. Now,

Speaker 7 Glenn Beck is a jerk website just started last week, can be gamed to be the

Speaker 7 second uh uh research the second second link on on google under your name and you don't know if this is a big website a small website you know something some troll website started last week or something read by by 10 million people a day you know you wouldn't know

Speaker 2 because amazon uh shut it down after buying it they had it for a few years and then they just shut it down they didn't sell it they just went dark, which is unusual. Jeffrey, I'm...

Speaker 7 It was unusual.

Speaker 2 I am out of time, but I would love to further this conversation with you and

Speaker 2 stay in touch with what is going on with the mirroring of all of the sites.

Speaker 2 I hope you're wrong, but I don't dismiss very much anymore because

Speaker 2 it's crazy.

Speaker 7 Jeffrey, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 You got it.

Speaker 2 Bye bye. Thank you.
Bye bye. Brownstone.org.
That is Jeffrey Tucker.

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