Ep 234 | 'Yellowstone' Star’s Fight to Make America ‘Cowboy’ Again | Forrie J. Smith | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Maybe you think of our flag, fireworks, Fourth of July,

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The image of a cowboy perfectly captures the American spirit.

It's a man taming the land,

the west,

working with the environment and with God,

just

carving a path through life.

taming the animal, loving the animal, working with the animal, hardworking, godly,

adventurous, sometimes spar-fighting, but it's America.

The cowboy is a man who believes in justice and family, has a healthy dose of, you know, kind of rowdy independence, but also is a man of his word.

The cowboy contract is a handshake looking a man in the eye, saying, I give you my word.

The American cowboy,

a free man.

Today I'm going to talk to a real cowboy.

I mean, he plays one on TV, but

he is that guy.

He has been his whole life.

You'll know him as Lloyd Pierce, the oldest ranch hand on the fictional Yellowstone Dutton Ranch.

But today,

I want you to meet the man behind the role.

to find out why he is speaking up on issues that matter most to him, America, needing more cowboys.

Welcome to the podcast from the Smash Hit television show, Yellowstone, actor and actual American cowboy, Forey J.

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I feel like I should call you Lloyd, but I know you're Corey.

But I feel like I know you.

How much Fory is in Lloyd and how much Lloyd is in Forey?

Wow, that's a

good question.

I met Taylor on Heller High Water.

It was working as a Wrangler.

I was the head wrangler on that.

And I had horses and cows and my dogs and everything on that.

And

he told me after I had some issues.

I had to get in the first AD face, poked him in the chest.

I had

the guy that hired me, the livestock coordinator, move my truck and trailer.

And I didn't know who it was.

I rode up and I roped him, pulled him right out the door.

You don't move my truck and trailer and reached in, took the keys out

and rode back over next to Taylor.

And here he come.

And he's like, he won't be here tomorrow.

He's run off.

I'll run him off.

He'll be gone tomorrow.

And

he couldn't do it.

I had half a dozen horses, 30 head of cows, 10 head of burrows, you know, all leased

under my name on the movie.

You know, there's no way he could.

But what was really cool, and I knew that me and Taylor would,

is he leaned over to

horse and looked at the guy in the eye and goes, try and go move my truck and see what happens, asshole.

But you are a, I mean, he told me later, he says, yeah, I'm writing a modern, been contracted to do a mod, write a modern western, and you're going to be in it.

Wow.

Wow.

I said, yeah, I've heard that BS before.

He says, not from me, though, you have.

And I'll tell you what, Taylor Sheridan's been a man of his word.

That's cool.

You are a, i mean you're a real cowboy i mean i mean you can tell by the hat first of all yeah cool hat thank you

i should take it off proper etiquette for me to take it off while we're doing this interview but you wear it if you want well that's the way i was raised yeah so there is cowboy etiquette real cowboy etiquette yeah uh

I didn't know that about the hat.

I'm going to have to remember.

I know you wouldn't eat, you wouldn't have it off at a dinner table, you wouldn't wear it.

But you don't wear it?

You take it off in honor of your meal and to show respect to the people that are feeding you that day.

Why are

cowboy movies making a comeback right now?

I think there's something

about the cowboy that

is so American.

Yeah,

we're the only country.

This is where cowboy came from.

The term cowboy originated in Texas during the Civil War.

The older men would leave to go off to fight the war.

So even if you were a girl of the family, if it was your responsibility to ride the sections

and

keep track of your cattle, you were called the cowboy of the family, and that was an honor.

When you went to town, I'm the cowboy of the family.

So, yeah, it's original right here in America.

There's no, this is where it originated.

Now, we had the vaqueros from

Mexico, and a lot of our culture is derived from them.

What is the culture?

What is the culture of a cowboy?

Rodeos originated.

They were having rodeos in Southern California before.

So it is rodeos.

Before we were even in the United States.

Really?

Yes.

The cowboy culture is...

Wait, wait, wait.

Let me get this right.

Because Rodeo Drive, we always always joke about we're going to the rodeo right is that the spanish version of rodeo yes rodeo means roundup roundup yeah

and they would have roundups and then they would have roping and bucking horse riding contests and stuff um chief rojas i've read all his books and uh he explains it in there and they were bronch riders them guys you know i'm i'm uh

i just love I think his name is Bill Pickett.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love his stories.

Yeah.

He's fantastic.

He's fantastic.

So you were going into the cowboy culture.

What is it?

How do I explain that route?

I was

16 years old.

I was on the JV basketball team, and we didn't get to practice

till after varsity got to practice.

So I'd have time to go home after school and feed the cows and then

go back to basketball practice.

My granddad had broke his hip and he had just come, he said, hey kid, I think I can drive the truck for you.

Usually what I'd do is I'd put it in compound and put a two by four against the gas pedal and then get in the back and throw the hay out.

And it's quite a ride because you got all them frozen cow turds out there that trucks bouncing over so yeah I was grateful to have him come out and drive the truck for me and when we got done he says I have time to look at my cows kid I said yes sir we're driving around through the cows and he says you know we're not gonna make I'm not even gonna break even this year maybe at I think where cows were selling for 35 cents a pound then or calves yeah

And he says, if I could get 39 cents a pound, I could break even.

He says, my kid's out here busting his butt and

you know I'm just this is ridiculous I said well why are we doing it granddad

he looks at me with

well son we're helping feed America we're helping feed our country

and that's kind of the cowboy culture right there

is

it's There's a bigger thing than what we're doing out here today.

You know, we're helping feed our country.

We're maintaining the grass and

rotating our pastures to keep everything right.

It drives me nuts that these

greenies

come in and try to lecture people who are farmers and who are ranchers.

They care more about the land than anybody in any city that has some PhD on how to take care.

I mean,

they care about the land.

They take care of the land.

The worst, the worst neighbor I have is the Bureau of Land Management.

They're horrible.

Oh, horrible.

I've dealt with them.

I was on a ranch in southern Arizona.

I left Hollywood and I went back to cowboy and

I'd went

and the BLM guy came over.

He was going to fine me for overgrazing this one pasture.

And I said, well, I tell you what, Pard, you come back

after the monsoons,

And if that pastor doesn't come back better than it ever has been,

you can go ahead and find me.

And

I said, you go tell my boss what I said and everything.

Well, what I'd done was I'd put them cows in there and they'd ate off all the weeds in the spring.

And

so then when the monsoons did come, The weeds were all gone.

It looked like a golf course out there.

And I said, yeah, that leaving 50, 60%,

that leaves the weeds.

And I says, we need to graze it down to 20, 25%,

like I did.

And then it comes back, the grass comes back.

And I learned that from working at the Empire Ranch, McDonald's, and he's a great

man for the land and taking rote.

He's one I learned rotations from.

And

yeah, yeah, it's just nuts that they don't think we're taking the best care of the land.

Another thing, Glenn, that really gets me

is the cow farts.

The cow manure.

We used to have 60 million buffalo and no telling how many elk running across the plains.

And they were farting animals.

Bigger farting animals.

Yeah.

And now people are yeah, it's well.

Can you explain this?

I mean, I I don't know if you would have any I can give you a theory.

I don't know if I can explain it.

I live

down the street, probably like 20 miles away.

Down the street from a guy who has a huge buffalo ranch.

He has about 5,000 buffalo.

The most amazing thing you can see is them coming over the hill.

And you can see how much of them are befalo as they look more and more like cows and how much really are bison you know are close to bison there are no pure bison except in yellowstone and it's my understanding that they sometimes thin the herd and they just kill them instead of giving them to ranches so we can have purebred buffalo the only pure buffalo or bison is owned by the government.

Did you know that?

No, I didn't know that.

Oh my gosh.

I didn't know that.

He told me that and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

And he's like, we beg.

We beg for the bison.

They slaughter them and bury them.

Oh.

All these people going hungry.

It's about one of the best meats you can eat.

Oh, it's so good.

So good for you.

And good for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And

people don't know this.

Corriente and longhorn are the most healthiest beef you can eat.

The low in cholesterol and

yeah, it's the you know the Longhorn.

Yeah.

That's where it all come from was the Longhorn.

Yeah.

And then Buffalo, it's yeah, I just

there's so much waste in this country.

Like it's right there.

My cousin, Oklahoma, he's got 80 acres of pigs are taking over, hogs.

And I said, well, wild.

Yeah.

Boars.

Yeah.

Well, they've intermixed.

Yeah, yeah.

And I said, well, we'll go down there and have us a hog killing.

Yeah, whenever you're ready.

I says, yeah, we'll wait till after the freeze where we can donate the meat.

I see all these road kill.

There's a lot of good, like, especially around Rio Doso, New Mexico, there's elk and deer all the time on the side of the road.

We have deer kills all the time.

And when I first moved up into the mountains with real people not city people

um you know somebody hits a deer boom they put it back in the back of their truck and you know eat it yeah not just push it off to the side bleed it out yeah

i was uh

we had two cows hit on the county road and montana's open range like

New Mexico and Arizona also.

Meaning, if you don't want cows on your property, that you got to put a fence up and fence them out.

Right.

And

so

granddad,

we got two dead cows.

He got the driver and they had to pay and everything.

But he called the Two Teeths Crow family in the Helena Valley.

They came up there and the only thing left of them two cows was the gut pile, the manure pile, and bloodstains.

And we later on had some killed on the railroad.

And of course it's up to the railroad to keep their fences up.

So they had to pay granddad for them cows.

But again he called the Two Teeth and they come up there and

you know them cows had been dead for

oh probably 12 hours.

They didn't care.

They come bled them and They took everything.

Wow.

And

it's so that's the way I was raised.

And I was raised one of the reasons I think I'm so healthy in my older age.

I got a good lady that is on top of it.

But I was raised on a garden.

About the only canned things we ate were

McNally's chili and canned peaches.

Everything else was out of the garden.

All our meat was either wild or off the ranch.

And

I think we have really screwed our food up.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

And it's like 30% of our beef now comes out of Brazil.

I know.

We don't know what has been done to it.

You know, what did they inject in it before it got butchered?

Right.

How are they butchering it?

We have no clue.

I know.

I don't know why we can't get

where it's signed and say this is USA raised.

This is USA.

Well, they have the little flag that says product of USA.

That doesn't, that's not it.

That means it was

butchered or packaged here.

In the USA.

Yeah, yes.

It doesn't mean

it's in the USA beef.

No.

And

why are we having to go to Brazil to

buy beef?

I mean, our ranchers, I think it's, the biggest mafia I've ever seen are the meat packing plants.

The, what, three or four companies?

Yep.

They're absolutely,

they're mobsters.

They're mobsters and they rip our farmers off like crazy well and at the same time they're the ones making the fake meat

yeah yeah and it's making people sick giving people issues but you want to talk about mobsters how about what i

i can't remember the company's name that the oil companies and car car companies came all together and made this company that went around and bought all all the

trolleys in LA

Detroit.

It was GM and

Goodyear.

Yeah, but what was the name?

They formed a company.

Oh, I don't know.

It was a different company.

And later on,

years later, this is like 57.

Yeah.

They do away with all the trolley systems.

And now they got big stink or buses that nobody wants to ride on because they're crowded.

So they go out and buy cars.

That's what they wanted.

They wanted them to buy cars.

So they'd be buying cars and gas.

And tires.

And tires.

Yeah.

We had the best city transportation ever.

All the streetcars all over America.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, they weren't selling cars.

They weren't selling tires.

They weren't selling gas.

So those companies went together and bought them out.

Now, that's

kind of mobstery.

Oh, yeah, no, it is.

So we have, I mean,

we started with the cowboy culture, and I think, and I'd love your point of view on this,

I think America has so lost its way on

your word is your bond, your handshake.

You know,

cowboy,

your handshake is a contract.

Just tell the truth.

Don't bullcrap me.

Just tell me, you know, just tell me the truth.

Working together,

when we bought our farm in Idaho, we brought the kids out.

And I was living in New York at the time, and I realized I hadn't seen anything but man-made stuff.

I couldn't, you're in New York City, you're not seeing the stars.

No, you can't see them.

And if you don't see the stars, you don't sit there and go, man, are we small?

You know what I mean?

And so we bought a farm so we could move out and have the kids, you know, grow up.

And

I grew up on my grandma and grandpa's farm in the summertime.

And where was that?

It was in Puyallup, Washington.

Oh, nice place.

Yeah.

Or it used to be.

Yeah, it used to be.

Used to be.

And

at the time, I only just wanted to get away.

I was a big city kid.

You know, I just want to live in the big city.

Now, I'd give my right arm to get away from even this city and live full-time out in the middle of nowhere

because

common sense comes back and also

caring about your neighbor.

And not just because you have to, because if you're farmers,

you could be the best farmer, but you're going to have a bad year and they'll have a good year and they're going to help you.

And you better help them because at some point it's going to be you that needs help.

And then the fact that you can be the best, but God is required.

When we moved away and we moved into the cities, all of that was lost.

And I think that's what is plaguing us.

And I think that's why cowboys are making a comeback because

it represents

America.

America.

True America.

Marx and Hitler both,

they knew knew that if they control the children, they control the future.

And that people that had no faith are easier to bend.

And

my grandmother taught me,

my cousins were Catholic, and we'd go to the Catholic church with them and midnight mass and stuff at Christmas.

And they're all getting baptized.

And I said, Grandma, should I get baptized?

She goes, no, it's up to you.

And I said, well, what religion?

She goes,

I'm not of any denomination.

I said, well, how come, grandma?

She says there's too much blood been spilt between these denominations.

And I don't feel that that's a godly way.

But I do know there is a supreme power, that there is something else going on in this world, and that you need to acknowledge that.

And

I think it's easier for

cowboys and ranchers and farmers that see it every day.

Every day.

You know, you see the miracle of birth and death and

the miracle of things growing and

just how it all works.

To realize that

and the beauty of a sunset

or sunrise

and the stars.

And honestly,

the beauty of people.

I love the people of my small town.

And I'm surrounded down here by a lot of great neighbors, but there's a different quality.

I was just out in

Asheville, South Carolina,

yesterday, North Carolina, yesterday.

And

I would live with those Appalachian people in a heartbeat.

It's just, it's, it's just different.

It's just different.

It's great.

You know,

one of

there's two things I'm really proud of.

One is being called a legend at Rodeos.

Because you grew up in Rodeos, right?

Your mom was a barrel raiser?

Yeah.

My granddad rodeoed back when they rode horses to the rodeos and stuff.

Wow.

And the other one is everywhere I've lived, I've been called a good neighbor.

And that comes from my childhood.

We lived on a

hillside, a mountainside in Montana.

There was three families that lived there year-round.

There was us, Palmers, my grandpa and grandma, the Wing family, and Norman Bruce.

Then there was a couple other places where people would come and spend the summers.

But we depended on each other.

We took care of each other.

The wings plowed our roads and took care of our roads in the winter.

Granddad and I'd go castrate their colts in the spring.

We'd help them move cattle out on the forest service in the spring and the summer, go gather them and bring them back in the falls.

We all just worked together.

It was a community.

There was 13 kids in eight grades when I started grade school there at Montana City.

My granddad was the self-acclaimed mayor of Montana City.

And

we all just

got along.

The place I lived at before where I'm at now,

My neighbors across the road, their politics and mine,

for example

I open the barn door and there's a rattlesnake coiled up ready and

my neighbor was just across the fence and I says hey

you want to relocate this snake you better get over here before I get to my gun

so boom he come over and had a little deal ensnared that snake put him in a bucket took him off back up on the mountain well

um i shoot the rail station on my property.

So that's just kind of showing

their politics politically go down that line.

So

we came to an issue where we couldn't get the county to work on our road.

So this guy's a computer tech.

I mean, he can do some things with computer.

And then my other neighbor, he has heavy equipment.

And

so I went into the county commissioner and i told them we're going to fix our road

you guys won't fix it and we've

my part my neighbor on the computer has found where it is a county road it should be maintained by the county but you guys don't want to do it so i'm going to buy the diesel for my one neighbor that has the equipment this other neighbor's got all the permits and everything lined up on the computer to do this and we're just going to fix our own road Oh, we're waiting for federal funding.

When did this start happening?

Everybody waiting for federal funding.

I know.

This is America.

We do on our own.

I know.

And that's what I told them.

I says, we'll take care of this.

That money should go to the schools or something else.

We'll take care of this ourselves.

Well, boom, then they all came out and they wanted to see what, you know, they got involved with it.

But

it bothers me so much.

Those neighbors from Hell's Kitchen, she told me, she said, Foury, thank you for being such a good neighbor.

And I was like, you know, I hope I'm as good a neighbor to you as y'all are to me, because they were great.

But our politics were totally the opposite.

Doesn't matter.

But it kind of helped.

You know, he

kind of seen my side, and he opened my mind up to some other things.

And then I was flying to Chicago for a WGN interview and doing a Shriners charity.

And on the way up there to Dallas, I stopped in Dallas to go to Larry Mayhan's memorial.

And I got on the plane.

There was an old, he was in his 80s.

And then I sat down.

He got a grin on his face.

He said, this might be an interesting ride.

He says, what's that?

He says, because I think our politics are probably different.

And I said, well, let's talk about that.

And we had a two-hour, whatever it is, from Dallas to Chicago.

Just a good visit.

We sat there and visited him.

He opened my mind to some things and I opened his mind to some things and it was just a good visit.

And I got off the plane.

He was helping some people get their stuff and he got off before I did.

And he waited for me in the tunnel and he shook my hand.

He says,

this is what this country needs more of.

And I said, yes, sir.

Absolutely.

Just sit down.

I said, but what I think, Glenn, is that it's computers.

Everybody can can go,

they don't have to compromise in a conversation with you or I.

They can go home to their computer and get with their little group.

Oh, what a jerk that guy was.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They aren't going to listen or, you know, explain themselves because they got their own little group they can go back to.

People they've never seen, probably, you know,

and might be controlled by some other group that's wanting to create division in our country.

It is

raising kids is so scary right now.

Oh, man, especially public schools.

Oh,

I mean,

I just, both of my kids, just the last

two are out of school now.

One's 18, one's 20.

I was hair raising.

It was absolutely hair raising.

Because they're dealing with stuff and you're like, I don't know.

This didn't exist.

None of this stuff existed.

And you feel like, you know, you feel like you're a thousand years old because you're saying the things that you swore you wouldn't say when your grandparents would talk to you and be like, okay, grandpa.

You know, it's moved so far

in a dangerous direction.

You know, and

my grandpa and grandma didn't trust the government.

Mine didn't either.

1973, Merle Haggard released, You're Walking on the Fighting Side of Me.

So we've been in this battle before.

I've got great-grandfathers that tore up the papers on their wives because they didn't want any government assistance because they're Indians.

And they did not want any government assistance.

One of them...

was from Ireland on my grandmother's side.

He came over and they conscripted him into the Union Army before he ever got a foot on America.

Wow.

Made him mad.

So he became a spy for the Confederacy.

And then

after the war, he moved to Missouri and married a Cherokee lady.

And

he's like, we don't need any of their help.

Tore up the paper.

That's what I found at the hurricane in North Carolina.

I mean,

they're wondering why they don't matter to the federal government, but

I have

two

people telling me,

one of them set up

all these retired

soldiers and special forces guy that live right in the community or right around, they set up a clinic because

Nobody was there.

So they just did it themselves.

And yesterday or day before, fema comes in and they said uh you know you don't have a license to and they said we've been here for seven days move move on we're going to continue to do what we know is right and that's america that's america that's america yeah

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So, talk to me a little little bit about Yellowstone because

I'm a big fan.

Well, thank you.

Yeah, big fan.

You guys are just.

Me too.

Yeah.

And I'm so bummed that it's coming apart.

And, you know, I don't, I don't, you know, I hear both things about Kevin Costner, you know, it's not his fault or it is his fault.

And I don't know.

I don't either.

Yeah.

Stay out of that game.

Yeah, Yeah, good for you.

But how bummed are you that?

Well, it's a.

I'm not really bummed.

Really?

Kind of.

Yes, it was a great ride.

I really liked the character I was getting to play.

I liked Taylor's writing.

That guy's a genius.

Oh, well, yeah, he is a genius.

And the way he pulls it off and puts everything together.

But it got to be the last

season, you know,

you don't know if you're going to work.

You know, it just, the turmoil that started there, and it started about the third season when it was a hit.

When everybody realized, see, nobody thought in Hollywood, especially, oh, this ain't going to go.

In fact, HBO didn't pick it up.

When I first got involved, it was Robert Redford and HBO were going to.

Wow.

They didn't think.

And then after the second year, and they got this cult following going, now they're all like, whoa.

And then

the money in the hands.

Then

things started.

And it got.

Did it break the cast up at all?

Not the cast.

No.

Well, that was one of the cool things about it is how we all came together.

Actually, probably made our acting and

a lot of things better because of how we did come together and gel together as a family.

And

but

that chaos, I mean,

if it was just

Yellowstone and, hey, we're going to film May.

through August,

boom, here,

it'd be great.

But this

never know, and then, okay, we're going to go now.

And then, oh, that's because of the movies that

Costner or whoever was doing, right?

That's what breaking it up.

Yeah, well, we don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That's not my wheelhouse.

It's just, I know that everybody got put on hold.

You know, they send you money and compensate you, but

still, you got to look at it.

It was bad for the audience, too.

You're like,

this is the second half, right, of the sea, what is it, season five?

Yeah.

So second half, I don't even remember what happened, you know,

in the first half.

I have to go back and watch it.

It just takes so long in between.

It's the beginning of the end.

Yeah, but the Taylor's writing that...

But whatever happened there

is

water under the bridge now, and I'm better off and

broader and bigger man than I was when we started.

And

it's just great.

And

like I said,

all that's out of my

don't really care.

But it's not Yellowstone.

It wasn't.

the script and all of that is beautiful.

I would love to go on for 10 years.

but all that other stuff that came out of this taylor and and kevin

i i don't know if that's where it all started if it started somewhere else all this friction over the money and the power and

it's so sad yeah because it was really good i mean in a way in a way i kind of feel bad for liking the family you know what i mean

uh because it's almost

it's almost like a cowboy version of the Sopranos.

Almost

with the second year up there.

Oh, this is a Dallas Sopranos Cross.

Yeah, yeah, it is.

It is.

What's cool about when people tell me that is cool is because Patrick Duffy, one of the stars of Dallas, is from right down the road, 30 miles from my house in Broadway, Montana.

Really?

What's her name?

Kelly Riley?

Kelly Riley.

Great lady.

Oh my gosh, that is the best character, I think, the best, I don't know, villain

character I've ever seen.

She plays it so well, and I had no idea she was from Great Britain.

And I read a story, and I don't know if this is true or not, but she said she didn't,

she used an American accent the entire time for like the first week because she didn't want people to say, she's British.

She's not not gonna be able to pull this roll off.

Is that true?

Yeah,

amazing.

She had an acting

or speech coach, or whatever,

and

this last season was the first time I ever really ever heard her have trouble with it.

But yeah, I was just, I didn't know either the first couple weeks.

And

it's an oxymoron, I guess guess you'd call it she is just a sweetheart in real life and i how she can play

and tell me oh this is the best of the family and i'm like

what i go well you know so that's kind of our culture is so weird right now my wife has a t-shirt that you know

You know,

I'm having a Beth Day or something.

And the culture,

the thing I think that is the secret on that is even her,

she is fighting against the machine.

You know what I mean?

Maybe not fairly at times, but the whole thing is fighting against the machine.

And that's

cool.

That's cool.

That's cool, especially today.

So you're from Montana.

I know a lot of people from Montana that

are kind of pissed at Yellowstone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because

this is what I've got to say to them.

And I know what you're talking about because you go in some of the bars.

We had trouble.

We'd be out filming on the road.

People would be flipping us off.

And then the other ones,

we love you.

Reminded me of being in Mexico back in the early 80s.

I was down there.

But this is what I got to say to you, Montanans.

I came up there in 2017 i'm from montana i love montana i worked in the bitterroot valley cowboy and when i was 19 years old

montana was root before when we got there in 2017 it wasn't because of yellowstone that you guys are selling property to these out-of-staters and stuff

it yeah don't blame yellowstone Because it was already messed up when we got there in 2017.

And the housing

problem is

national.

It's not just because of Yellowstone in the Bitterroot Valley.

This is happening all over the country right now.

It's funny because that is the story of Yellowstone.

Keep these people out.

We want to preserve

what we've always had.

And these people are coming in.

I remember I

because I considered moving to Montana, which I wouldn't now because

now the New Yorkers are there and the big money people are there.

And I'm like,

you come in with your big money and you think you're safe.

You know, everybody around you knows things go to hell.

You don't know how to survive.

You know what I mean?

But.

You know,

when I first got in the movie business, and I can't remember,

but the girl I was with, she says,

how do you get along with all these multi-millionaires and everybody, all these big producers and studio execs and everything?

You walk right in among them and just, boom,

I can survive with a knife.

She goes, what has that got to do with it?

I says, when the world goes to hell, I'll be the one they'll be looking for.

Exactly right.

My granddaddy taught me how to survive with a knife.

And I said, so

I feel just

doesn't matter how much money you got, I can survive.

And that's worth a lot of money.

And so

you're worth more than money.

When money doesn't matter,

who cares?

And I'm rich in family and friends.

I've always felt that way.

And I ride good horses and I'm good dogs.

And I'm a rich man no matter how much money I got in the bank.

Thank God, you know, Taylor Sheridan, I've got some money in the bank.

But

I look at it as

I look at my life that I was rich.

I'm rich, doesn't matter how much money is in the bank because of my friends and my family and stuff.

My mom gave me her old one-horse trailer.

1957 model bought and paid 500 bucks for it.

Me and my little brother stared at the front of that trailer for probably a million miles going down the road in the back of the station wagon.

That trailer's been to every rodeo west of the Mississippi and in Canada and the United States.

But I pulled into a friend's house with it and needing to do some work on it and stuff.

And

I had

Me and this guy rodeo together and sold Kirby vacuum cleaners together.

And I hadn't really been around him for years.

I pulled in there with that trailer.

I didn't have to go to the parts store.

I didn't have to go to the mechanic.

Yeah, nothing.

We fixed that trailer right up.

I pulled it home back to New Mexico.

And

that's the kind of friends I have.

But I think that's the kind of friends

that you make when you're in those communities.

Yeah.

You know, everybody is.

I was having a big family reunion, and we had just finished building the ranch, and we were way behind.

And

all these trucks with furniture and everything coming in.

And

like, I get off the air, and I come upstairs, and here are all my neighbors.

And they're putting sheets on the beds, and I felt so guilty.

I'm like,

you shouldn't do this for me.

I'm not a good neighbor yet, please.

But it was amazing.

And I kept saying, please stop, please.

We can do.

No, we're your neighbors.

You got relatives coming tomorrow and you're never going to be.

I mean, it was like crazy great.

Just crazy.

I seen it

when my dad died, I was seven.

When my grandmother died when I was 11,

and people came,

fed our livestock for us, made meals for us.

It was just,

I'm getting choked up remembering how the community just came to us.

We didn't make any phone calls.

We didn't, they just showed up.

And

my grandmother's funeral, there wasn't even room in the parking lot for people.

I mean, they came from...

out of the woodwork for my grandma.

And

but yeah, that's what I was raised with.

And that's probably why I'm such an American now is because I've seen America at work.

I've seen Americans and what they do and what they hold special to their heart.

So how can we get, because there are, in ways,

two Americas.

And I think what

I think it's honestly not being

around small towns and farmers and everything else.

I think the city, and I know this for myself, I grew up in a small town.

You know, there's garbage on the street.

You pick it up, you put it in the trash can, you know what I mean?

And I was in New York and I had been there for about three years and the taxes were out of control.

And I remember walking up to my building and there were newspapers and garbage blowing in the street.

And I turned to my friend and I said,

How much money do I have to pay for this to be a clean street?

And I stopped and I went,

I've got to get out of the city because I was just

mad at the city for not doing something because that's the way you're trained in those big cities.

You're trained, you don't do that.

And I didn't want to live like that.

You know, I didn't want to become that person.

How do we

regain this?

Well, I'm not sure.

I'm trying to do it by example.

That's one of the reasons it's

low down,

you know, on the list of reasons, but is to maybe get other people, wake other people up to that.

And one of the things I tell people is, you know,

I've always, every day, I try to make the world a better place.

And sometimes all it is is being able to pick up some trash along the road or

opening a door for somebody or helping somebody with something.

But I've always tried to do something.

And that's one of the things like where I live now,

wherever I've lived, I've always cleaned up the road.

In front of my camp, when I was a cowboy, it was clean.

Both my houses now, the borrow pits are clean.

There's no trash.

But if there's trash, because I've live in a 400-person town.

If there's trash someplace on the side of the road, road, I've stopped my truck, picked it all up, and put it in the back of the truck and just, you know, take it to the dump or whatever.

And you don't think of that.

You don't think twice about that in a small town.

You don't even think about that in a place like Dallas.

When I was a kid,

we seen a truck and trailer, a truck pulling out of where we, one of our pasture leases, where there's a creek and a nice area.

People like to come down there and picnic and camp camp and fish

and granddad got the license plate number and i said what are we doing what are you doing that for well you

so sure enough we ride down there and they left their garbage

so granddad says yep i got their license number so we ride back to the house and he calls his highway patrolman buddy and gets the address of this truck.

We go back down and got some feed sacks, went back down, picked up all that garbage.

And we went to that guy's house.

And granddad spreads it out on his lawn.

He came out of the house pretty hot.

Granddad said, well, you just did this to my lawn, my place.

This is your garbage.

Granddad tried to lure him out in the street because he wasn't going to hit him on his own property, you know, but granddad wanted to.

And I think that man knew it and he knew that he had a whooping coming.

And

we didn't have much trouble with garbage after that.

Somehow the word gets around.

It all gets around.

And you know, it's funny, when I worked, was down on that ranch right on the Mexican border.

I had taken about four days to fill up a storage tank for this one pasture.

And

I go out, I don't have any pressure in my tank, so I ride the line, and I go up there, and what they had done was illegal to come across and then knock that spigot off that 10,000-gallon water tank to fill up their jugs and then let it drain.

Oh, my gosh.

I'm mad.

That's four days out of my life it takes to pump that full.

You know, I got to go check the pump, got to take gas back to the gym.

You know, it's, and

so I rode home, I switched horses, and I got every gun I had

that I could carry on a horse, and I tracked them down.

Well, they're laid up during the heat of the day, and I went, I'm too mad to speak Mexican USOBs.

I'm tired of this.

You guys leave my gates open, you

just drained a 10,000-gallon tank, and this ain't the first time.

I said, You're in my, you're at my barn every night.

When I'd turn the lights off at 10:30, the dogs would go off.

And I'd find toilet paper, clothes, where they changed clothes in my barn and stuff.

They come up and fill their water jugs.

So I was like, guys, I don't call anybody on you.

I let you do your thing.

Now, I want my gates closed and leave my waters alone.

You're causing me work.

We were well about 15 miles north of the border then.

So a couple days later, I jumped some tracks going down, man, they left my gate, and the heifers and the cows are going to be mixed up

no they had tried to close they didn't get it closed right but they tried

just in two days that had got around all over the border that hey this for Carol I mean I give them food I give them water whatever they need and

when you're that close to the border

You have to get along because they can send somebody up there and snuff you and the person be back in mexico before they anybody even knows you're missing or gone and i know of cases where that's happened

and so the board of patrol i tried talk to them before when i first moved there i was like hey what why don't you guys drive through my yard when you're coming and going to work just drive no they wouldn't have nothing they wouldn't help me i had a truck stolen i went to all the authorities and gave them the truck, told them I had people seen it being driven down across the border.

Nobody could find my truck.

I went to the feed store to my buddy, Keiros, and I said, hey,

call one of your buddies down there.

And there's a little town called San Carlos, and

we found my truck.

Well, we can't carry guns or nothing into Mexico.

Everybody in San Carlos around my truck had a gun or a knife and stuff on them.

I didn't even dare open my mouth.

I'm like, you know, what am I going to do?

They're still driving my truck in Mexico.

Yeah.

How much, are you still that close to the border?

No, I live 60 miles south of Albuquerque now.

I packed a gun.

I slept with a gun.

And that weighs on a man.

And, you know, if all the Americans like,

knew what went on down there at the border, I think they're starting to see it, though, in their own communities all across this country.

But I seen the cartel, whenever you found luggage, it was always a woman's luggage because a cartel would steal them and take them.

The women, most women in them groups would be wearing ball caps and pants and trying to

look as much as like a man as they could because they're spotters they're scouts watching everything that goes on down there on that border I had a border patrol guy I'm following tracks and they're on their four-wheelers and stuff automatic weapons you know they're decked out I got my six-shooter and my rifle and I'm following cow don't go down there don't go down there I'm like I got to go after these cows And they're like, no, no, don't.

And we're like

two miles from the border.

Don't go down there.

They've got guns.

I say, hey, you guys, aren't you the border patrol?

Aren't you supposed to be patrolling that?

And they're like, yeah, well, we can't get in a confrontation with them.

I'm like, well, I'm going after my cows.

And sure enough, there was guys in camouflage with automatic weapons and stuff.

And I just, hey, don't die vacas, amigos.

and I rode on through picked up my cows

what does that mean I don't speak Spanish what did you just say where are my cows amigo friend

I had one case where I was following tracks and they go under the go through the under the fence and I'm like how does this work and I reached and grabbed a steel post they had cut the steel posts off at the ground level

It was in a gully or a gulch like that.

And sure enough, laying over there a six-foot stick,

you prop that stick underneath them where them posts were cut.

My cows could walk right through the fence.

So I'm going to go down and get my cows.

I don't even get to the gate.

Just a range gate like every ranch has in New Mexico.

In fact, I've been into Mexico more times through range gates like that than I have legally across the border.

Boom.

I don't get the gate open and they're on me.

They're not going to let me into Mexico.

The Federales.

Federales.

Wow.

So the next day, I went back with my dogs and I brought me a little herd of cows on the

U.S.

side and held them up and I propped the fence up and sent my dogs down there into Mexico because I could see my cows.

They sent them dogs down there and they went and brought them cows up to the other herd.

And them federales had their guns on my dogs.

They weren't liking it.

I hollered and let them know, hey, I'm getting my cows back.

And I got my cows back.

There were three cows with a tight bag, meaning full, they hadn't been nursed.

And them other calves, the grass, fat, milk, fat calf, I mean, they were they were eating them, you know.

And I can't blame them, really.

But that's kind of things that go on down there on the Mexican border that people don't know about.

And them cartels would fight.

You'd hear them, gun battles.

And I asked the guy, what they're fighting over?

They're stealing them women out of the groups.

Where you're at, it's the borderline of one cartel and another.

And they're fighting over that borderline.

I've had one friend, I've seen them having gun battles, like the rat pack,

shooting at each other out of the back of trucks and stuff on the American side.

I come home one day,

well, I'd moved from this camp, but I still taking care of it for a guy.

I come riding up there.

Check on things.

There's a truck backed up to the wellhouse unloading bundles of pot into my wellhouse.

Wow.

What do you do?

I mean, these guys are packing guns.

They're a real deal.

What did you do?

I wrote up and asked them what was going on and stuff, and they had the wrong address.

They had the wrong place.

But I got a wellhouse full of pot,

and they didn't, this didn't all get figured out till later.

And, you know, I'm sitting there with my gun.

They're sitting there with their gun.

And it's hard to speak Mexican when

the adrenaline's running yeah yeah

and so we're having a tough time communicating but uh they got in their truck and left and now here i am so i went to town to a guy i knew that was involved with all this stuff and uh he got it taken care of for me

and see that's another thing people don't realize is how

much

is run down there by the cartels and the drug company.

This would have been in the 90s, like 93, 94.

I'm at a team roping in Benson, and this guy comes riding up to me, old rancher, and he says, hey, will you rope with me?

And I said, sure, I'll rope with you.

I go,

what's the deal?

He said, well, I just got out of prison and everybody's kind of hanging back from me.

And I said, oh, yeah, what's that for?

He says, well, they were smuggling pot out of my place.

And he says, you can't say nothing, or I wouldn't have a place when I come back.

I said, Well, how'd that work?

What they were doing was they're putting pot down in the bottom of the stock, the cattle trucks, and then putting plywood over the top of them, and then loading the cattle in on top of the plywood.

Wow, and you know, so you got a double load, and every once in a while they have to turn somebody in.

One of the first ranches, I was dating a lady, a girl down there,

Kelly Glenn, and they took me to a pastor, and he says, now, when you go checking that south fence, there's going to be bundles, piles of pot.

He says, just ride on by them like they aren't even there, just another pile of rocks.

Because there's somebody watching to making sure the right people pick that pile up.

Yeah, and that was in 87.

Now it's out of control.

Now they're just coming across with whatever they want.

And this is something that

the public don't understand.

And I got this from a special ops guy.

There's more fentanyl coming across the border than the drug users can use.

I says, well, that's, you know what?

That's one of my theories, is that they're just going to poison the water supply.

He says, yeah, five-gallon bucket of fentanyl into 10,000 gallons of water will kill everybody that touches that water

to their lips.

I've got a reverse osmosis.

Thank you, Patricia.

Water filter.

I've got my own wells.

Both properties, all my properties have their own wells, so I'm not having to worry about the community water.

I don't think people understand what's here.

I mean, China is in Mexico making the drugs.

for the cartels to come into here.

And I mean, and we don't know who has that.

We have no idea.

The last two bunches of illegals I jumped on that ranch,

the last bunch were just as white as you and I are.

And I'm a half-breed.

And the other group before them, they were dressed as Mexicans, but they were not Mexican.

They were dark complexed, but, you know, I know.

Americans?

They're Middle Easterners.

Middle Eastern.

Some of them had the dot and everything,

but they had the ball caps and the Mexican clothes on.

Now, why are they coming?

Why couldn't they come in legally?

What are they doing that they couldn't come in legally?

And then I've heard about

just yesterday where Muslims are moving in and taking over apartment complexes.

Well, we have Chinese taking over in Maine.

They're running the drugs out of Maine now.

And all of the money is going back to communist China.

I mean,

it's not good.

My manager, he says, well, is this company okay?

I says, where's the money go?

What do you mean?

I says, like, Budweiser, the money don't stay here in America.

It goes to Holland.

You know, it's not an American company anymore.

The money goes to Holland.

That's what I mean.

I says, if a company is American based and the money stays here in America, I will endorse it.

I was working on Young Riders,

the TV show,

whom

United Artists got bought up by the Chinese.

And we stopped at the local, oh, there's a little bar out there, Mescal by the set.

We'd stop and have a beer.

This one guy, he one of the grips, He's just working.

Oh my God, I'm working for the time.

And he goes on and on and on about how he's working for a foreign company now, you know.

We go out to his car.

What's he get in?

But a Dotson.

I grabbed a hold of him.

I says, you financed this.

Everybody that drives a foreign car is financing them foreign people to come over here and buy stuff from Americans.

And yeah, Americans might, it might cost a little more.

Like I had a sunglass company one of me, they endorse me.

I'm like, if they're made in America,

well, that got kiboshed because it costs too much to make them in America.

And so,

yeah, but

the good the best things, the good things usually do cost more or harder to get.

It's gotten to the point to where we're suicidal on some of this stuff.

We don't make our own drugs here.

We don't make our own antibiotics here.

What are we thinking?

We've just thought, well, we can be a global

economy.

And there's nothing wrong with having trade, et cetera.

But not when you don't have your own steel, not when you don't have, you know, look at what's happening to Boeing.

You put Boeing out of business.

How do we maintain, if, God forbid, we had to go to war, we can't make airplanes?

You know what I mean?

It's insane.

It's insane.

I think the administration that's in now would just let us go.

I'm really scared of what's going to happen during the election,

after the election, I should say.

There's a...

You know,

I get around the country a lot more than I used used to.

And I'm meeting a lot of people and I talk to them about voting.

And they're like, I ain't voting anymore.

I'm just buying more bullets.

You got to vote.

Yeah, you got to vote.

I just did a deal at the college in Socorro on Monday to registering kids to vote.

And I tell them, you sign up any way you want.

You're here going to vote.

But eight out of ten of them were red.

So it's kind of

starting to wake up.

People, you know, especially Texas, I mean, I lived here in the 80s and they, you know, Texas secede.

And about half of them are serious.

And so there's a lot of talk all around the country about, you know, we should just break away or have a civil war.

Are you out of your mind?

You don't have any idea.

You don't want that.

No.

I mean, if it comes to that, it comes to that, but don't root for that.

I buy more bullets.

Did you vote?

No.

Because you don't want

a civil war.

No.

And

excuse me.

That's what China and Russia want.

They want.

They want us divided, and then they're going to come in here and take over.

They're already here.

And,

you know, these initiatives

that they've gotten 27 of our states taking parents'

consent away in the schools and this transgender stuff and stuff.

It's not about transgender,

it's about confusing our children, taking the patriotism out of them.

And then,

like Marx said and Hitler said, we control the children, we control the future.

Well,

here we are.

And I was

missed the point there.

Well,

when you're talking about

doing this to the children, you're not only confusing them,

you're also destroying the ability for them to,

if you give them the hormone drugs, they can't have children.

You've broken the family apart.

broken the difference between male and female.

You've just broken us.

And

the only two countries that they aren't pushing these in schools and everything, of course, they're already pretty much brainwashed is China and Russia.

And yet they're one of the bigger financing

sources for all of this nonsense.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let me just go back to Yellowstone for a second.

Are we going to like the ending?

Do you know the ending?

That's a good question

because

I just posted the other day that, hey, don't ask ask me because I don't know.

They blacked our scripts out except for what we needed to know.

And I'm not real sure how anything happens.

In fact, there was one day

they'd give me my dialogue the day before.

The scene was blacked out.

And it was good

one of Taylor Sheridan's classic lines, too.

And I hope I did it.

I'm pretty sure it came out right.

So

you are

hitting a resurgence,

right?

A late blue one.

Is that what you're saying?

No, no, no.

I mean,

you are

Taylor put something together and everyone who's involved with it is now bigger than

they had been.

Maybe Costner is an example.

No, I don't think so.

He's probably bigger too because of it um

you didn't start out as that person and and i don't

it's rare to meet somebody from and you and i don't mean it this way that you because you're not from hollywood i don't know of any people who are in the business that are willing to say the things that you do Yeah, well, you might not be in the business.

But you don't seem to care.

I mean, when COVID happened, I think it was the SAG Awards.

You were like, I can't go because I'm not getting a vaccine and I don't want to make this political.

I don't, you know, but I'm not going.

Right.

That's, I am who I am before, after, and,

you know, during.

Is that age or is that the cowboy?

Or what is that that gives you that?

It's probably the cowboy.

I had a pretty good life for an old crippled rodeo cowboy.

I was doing really great when Taylor discovered me.

And

everything happens for a reason and for a purpose.

And I've been warned to be careful about what I say here today.

And

about Yellowstone or just what you I'm not sure what.

I was just scared to

almost clarify that yeah i was like well i think i know what he means um

so

it's been a beautiful ride and that um

they can't really hurt me now i got my own land i got i can my granddad told me that all you needed was 10 acres to survive you can raise your enough meat in the garden to survive on 10 acres and and i've been blessed with a lot more than that And

I can survive.

I feel that

I would be letting him

and a lot of other people down if I didn't stand up.

And I think that's one of the things that's wrong with this country right now is that people don't stand up.

We just keep getting along.

And that I

understand that.

Because that's what we do.

We get along.

We keep going and keep trucking on.

But there's a time and it's a line now.

Yes.

When you start messing with my children, you start messing with my animals.

All right.

You've crossed the line now.

I just want to spread that feeling.

Hey, we're Americans.

And, you know, Glenn,

our country was founded by people from all different religions, all different

ethnicities.

And

they came over here and made this beautiful country.

We make Yellowstone.

There's people from all levels, all shapes of life, and I love them all.

I love you all.

Thank you.

And we come together and we make this beautiful, beautiful TV show so I have faith that we can come together and and and fix this country like I said earlier it isn't the first time we've been here I mean they were killing kids on campuses and stuff you know

during

so

Yeah, I think that's when Merle Haggard's You're Walking on the Fighting Side of Me song came out was about then.

And

so we can fix it um the the election process has me a little worried um

and

when the republicans call me and want money and stuff that's what i tell them when you fix the election system yeah when we know that our vote counts i mean it's like my son's one of them he's like i ain't voting anymore It doesn't matter.

I mean, we go to bed, the right side's winning, we wake up, and the wrong side wins.

At this time,

I mean, this might be it.

This just might be it.

I'm hoping.

No, but I mean,

if it, one way or another,

this might be the end of the America that we know if people don't get out and vote.

And, you know, I've never had a problem

with elections, never had a problem with elections.

I can handle losing as long as it's a fair fight.

and you know that's the way the American people went.

The problem comes in when you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You know, this is all rigged.

That's the problem.

Yes, sir.

And why we live in a country like we do,

and we can't secure, we could send billions of dollars all around the world in seconds and not a penny is missing,

but we can't secure the vote.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

And

I was

at Riadosa for the All-American.

I led the Post Parade for the All-American.

And a Post lady came up to me and she was like, you know, I'm so proud of you and how you stand up and what you're doing.

And she says, I wanted you to know.

I delivered 15 mail-in ballots to a house that I know only a couple live in.

I says,

boom, there you go.

Another guy stepped up and says, hey, I deliver mail too, and I have the same thing.

Only one person lived there and I've delivered 12 mail-in ballots to that house.

Lincoln County's good about it, but a lot of counties, when somebody dies,

If you don't go in and take them off the rolls,

they're still voting.

That's where we're having our problems.

Well, some states have done a pretty decent job on clearing some of that out.

Florida's trying.

Georgia's trying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look ahead.

Is America America in five years?

Can we turn this, and I'm not just talking about politically.

I mean that sense of adventure, that sense of, come on, guys, we can do this, the sense of e pluribus unum.

We all might come from different places, but we believe in the Bill of Rights.

We believe I have a right, you have a right.

Now, let's move on.

We can argue about taxes all day long, but we have these things in common.

Do we?

Where are we in five years?

I hope

that we're back.

Excuse me, but I don't see it really.

They've um

the children are so brainwashed.

Um,

you know, I do, um, I maybe take that back.

A lot of the younger people I've been around lately

have really

kind of inspired me that maybe there is hope.

Yeah.

We lost two generations, but this next one

is the rebellion of those last two.

Seems to be.

But rebellion might not be what we really need right now.

Well, I mean, but

they're more spiritual.

If they do it in the right way, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm more of the.

I've never been, I'm more tactful now than I've ever been in my life.

I always

strike first and ask questions later.

You know,

I fight before anything else.

But I can see the error my ways in the past.

You know, that's one of the things right there is

we have to look at our past and see where we've messed up.

We can't erase it.

Democrats,

Confederates were Democrats.

Who's taken on all the Confederate statues and stuff?

And why were those statues put up?

I don't think most people understand.

That was to try to heal the wounds, saying,

we won, but you had heroes too.

You know what I mean?

That's why those things were built as a reconciliation, a reach across saying,

let's have reconciling here.

We are not going to try to erase your heroes, but we won, and this is who we are now.

And now we're destroying it.

We're destroying not only that reconciliation, the evidence of that reconciliation,

but also we're erasing any reminder.

that that happened.

You know what I mean?

It's horrible.

Robert E.

Lee was a great man

he was a good man and a a great leader and yeah they

and this is where we're at i'm in new orleans

i can't remember what it was for

but

i always

didn't want to go in restaurant and all the pictures and everything so i my handler We got a driver and he's taking me down to get a sack of tacos.

So he goes in and gets me a sack of tacos and I'm sitting out there talking to the driver and he's telling me about him tearing these statues and stuff down and how it pissed him off.

And I'm like, well, man,

why'd you let it happen?

You know,

I told him about the water fountain in Hill Park in Helena, Montana, where I was raised.

We used to go drink beer under there and we'd meet, hey, I'll meet you at the fountain at Hill Park.

We didn't know the daughters of the Confederacy had donated that water fountain.

Well, it's gone now.

And he was like, I know, it's just BS and he's all, he's all with me until my handler comes back and gets in the car and he, oh, I got to be politically correct.

I grabbed a hold of him.

I started shaking.

I said, that's why our country screwed up is because nobody will say anything.

Everybody thinks you have to be politically correct.

I says, why aren't we politically correct by wanting to keep that?

I says that I feel I'm politically correct by wanting to honor a great

man yeah maybe he's on the wrong side

but he he didn't do anything dishonorable no Lee was

a straight-up good man yeah he was yeah I've studied him yeah

I'm interested to see

Where you go next you're doing a movie now, aren't you?

Oh,

I got a Christmas movie one Little Angel, that I bought.

Me and

Tomas Sanchez bought from Joel Kaufman, an award-winning writer.

And we're fixing to do that.

Out for next, not this coming.

Hopefully, we can get it done this winter, so it'll be out in 2025.

We've got a theme song already written for it.

Me and Michaela Lane have written a song called One Little Angel.

What's the story?

It's about a little girl that loses her mother that's a barrel racer, and she has this

champion barrel horse.

And can I just say, I mean, this might be very offensive to some, but I don't really care.

There is nothing more beautiful than a woman that is barrel racing or the women that come out with the flags on the horses.

My gosh, that's beautiful.

Isn't it just beautiful?

Yeah, it is.

And

she has a colt out of this award-winning horse her mother had

before she died.

She died of cancer and it devastates her dad and they end up losing the farm and everything.

And

one little angel.

She needs all I want.

You just need one little angel.

And

by the end of the movie, she figures it out that there are angels all around us all the time.

And,

you know, I have people tell me they don't don't believe in God and I

I

it flabbergasts me

especially when your illegitimate

half-breed come up like I did I mean I've

I want I'm not eight out of ten kids statistically are either locked up or dead that come up like I did And

if that ain't somebody working for me, and

I feel like I have my grandpa and grandma with me a lot.

You've talked about them a lot.

Yeah.

Well,

my grandmother changed my life.

I think it was a second grade.

And

I got in a fight at school.

Somebody's calling me

Gut Eater or something.

And

I came home.

and she says,

you know, when you quit that, quit letting them bother you with that kind of stuff, they'll quit doing it.

You know, don't let it bother you.

And it's no fun for anybody.

And I said, yeah, you're right.

And she says, and you know, your granddads can fight.

And I've seen you fighting with your cousins.

You can fight.

But I don't ever want you fighting unless you're in the right.

And if you always

are in the right when you do fight, you'll win, no matter the odds, because the other guy will know he's wrong.

And she says, yeah,

why are you telling me?

She says,

you've got a good heart, Fore.

And you'll always have that good heart.

I says, how do you know that, Grandma?

She goes, because puppy dogs and babies love you.

You have a good heart.

And there's times when I was in

juvenile delinquent days and stuff that that might have saved me from going to the dark side i remembered my grandma told me i had a good heart

and uh so i've like my son i've you've got a good heart i don't you can screw up and be what a jerk you want to be but i know you have a good heart and he does he's probably maybe better than mine But yeah,

that one line might have saved me from a lot of different

going, like I said, going to the dark side and being locked up or dead by now.

You're fascinating.

I'm so glad we had this conversation.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

I appreciate it.

Thank you.

I'm honored to be here, man.

Thank you.

God bless you and thank you for what you're doing for America.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

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