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The numbers that I am about to share are really hard to believe.

When I saw them yesterday,

I found them shocking.

But I want you to close your eyes for a second and imagine

that you're standing on a dock.

You're standing somewhere on the east coast,

the Atlantic, but you're in the 1800s.

The sun is setting

and casting an orange glow across the water

as you stare at a massive ship.

that is coming your way.

Around you, there's a crowd of people, each one holding on to what little they brought from their home country.

And you're amongst these people who are welcoming friends, neighbors, and countrymen.

Some are from Germany, some are from Ireland, Poland, Italy, from all over the world.

They don't speak the same language.

They don't eat the same food.

And they don't share the same customs.

They separated themselves while they were on the ship.

But all of these people, with all of their differences, all the things that have kept them apart from one another in their own countries have one thing in common.

They're all headed to America.

Why?

What was it that brought so many people from so many different places to America?

What did they see in America that made them leave behind everything they knew, their homes, their families, their identities?

Some of them left their names.

Perhaps we should ask this question

today.

How did we become a country of E pluribus utum?

Out of many,

one.

I'm going to come back to that, but

let me give you the tales on the numbers that I saw yesterday, because they tell us something very important about where we are as a country.

Over 28% of Americans, 28%,

and an even higher percentage of Democrats, 35%,

believe the country would have been better off if a sitting president, Donald Trump, had been assassinated.

35%

of Democrats, 28%

of all of us.

I just, I want to talk to you about this and please listen

and don't think of Donald Trump because this isn't about his policies or his personality.

Is he a polarizing figure?

Yes.

This is, however, about something much deeper, something much more dangerous that is brewing in our country right now.

It is about the fabric of our democracy being stretched thinner and thinner and thinner.

The fact that more than a quarter of Americans who live in this country,

founded on the principle of peaceful power transfers,

could think that violence, the assassination of a leader, is the way to improve our nation.

What does that tell you?

It tells you that that many of us do not hold certain things self-evident anymore.

It tells us how fragmented we've become.

All right, let's all of us, left and right, take a deep breath and walk back a step.

Because this is not the first time that America has faced division.

It's not the first time we've experienced anger and disagreement.

Let's go back to 1963.

Wow, what a horrible time that was.

Civil rights marches, the Cold War, nuclear threats.

People were angry, they were terrified, and deeply divided.

Sound familiar?

The deep state with J.

Edgar Hoover and the CIA were

possibly plotting to kill the president.

And yet, when President John F.

Kennedy was assassinated on that November day in Dallas,

No one in this country celebrated.

No one.

No one was thinking, well, we're better off now.

It was grief.

Deep national grief.

Because it wasn't about the loss for Kennedy.

And it certainly wasn't a loss for Kennedy's supporters or his political party.

That's not what it was about.

It was a loss for America.

The whole nation stopped and mourned.

Why?

Because at the end of the day, despite all of our disagreements,

we still believed in the American idea.

We believed in our republic.

We believed in democracy.

We believed in the peaceful transfer of power.

We still had faith in our institutions.

Kennedy's death wasn't a victory for anyone.

It was a tragedy for everyone.

And that, my dear friend,

is where the story starts to change.

Because here's the kicker.

We don't feel that way anymore.

Today we're living in a different world, a different America, where political differences aren't just disagreements anymore.

They are hardened battle lines.

In the 1960s, people were divided.

Sure, they were.

We still had a shared identity, however, as Americans.

We still all believed in the Bill of Rights.

Well, now it's not just about policy or ideas anymore.

It's identity.

People just disagree with each other.

They see each other as enemies.

One side thinks the other is destroying the country, and the other side thinks

that side is destroying the country.

And when that that happens, when we start seeing our fellow Americans as existential threats,

it becomes much easier to justify extreme violence.

Suddenly violence, even assassination, starts to look like a solution to some.

That's a sign of insanity.

I mean, if you want a civilization.

So how did we get here?

What changed?

Well, it didn't happen happen overnight.

There are three major reasons why we're seeing this level of division, and really they're all connected.

The polarization has deepened.

Our political polarization has reached an all-time high.

Why?

Because we don't teach what united us anymore.

Back in the days of Kennedy, people had fierce disagreements.

There were fights over the civil rights, the Cold War, nuclear weapons, all the really big stuff that's happening yet today, but we're not really talking about those things.

But despite all of those in the 1960s, there was still a common ground, a belief in the idea of America, of working together to solve problems.

People could still sit down at the table and have a heated argument and still walk away knowing that they were in this together because we were all Americans.

You see, the hippie movement hadn't really started yet.

The tear down America.

America sucks.

America has never been any good.

That's not what Martin Luther King taught.

Martin Luther King taught, you haven't lived up to those ideals and those promises.

America, I challenge you to do that.

But

have you heard anybody really talk about that lately?

Now the common ground, that common ground, that beachhead that Martin Luther King was standing on, has all but disappeared.

We've retreated into our own camps, and you see it everywhere.

It's not just policy differences anymore, it's tribalism, because we've all, through fear, gone back into our lizard brain.

People today are more loyal to their political team than they are to one another, or certainly than they are to our country.

And we don't just disagree, we demonize.

And that demonization...

It's dangerous.

It opens the door for people to see their opponents as less than human, as enemies that must be destroyed.

And when you start seeing people as enemies, you start thinking about extreme solutions because something's got to be done.

The second reason this is happening is the erosion of trust in institutions.

So here's another big piece of the puzzle.

We don't trust our institutions.

It used to be that people had faith, faith in the system.

It was flawed, we knew that, but it was still working kind of for the good of the country, and we were trying to fix it and make it better.

Back in the 1960s, most Americans trusted the government.

It was a mistake, but they trusted the government.

The media, they trusted, even the presidency, despite their political disagreements.

I remember talking about Bill Clinton, and somebody said, I could never shake his hand.

And I said, I would shake his hand.

He's the president of the United States.

I respect the office.

Now, over the decades, that's all gone.

Watergate, Vietnam, the Iraq War, War, financial crisis, one scandal after another, yelling and bickering, and nobody getting anything done, lying to the American people when they're running.

It's just chipped away at our faith in the system.

And the result?

Well,

more often than not, people now seem the system is beyond repair, and so we have to start all over and throw all of it out.

They've lost hope in the democratic solutions.

Boy, Stalin must be so happy today.

You see, when you lose faith in the process, that's when radical ideas, violence, starts to seem like a viable alternative.

We have to do something.

And when you feel like voting doesn't matter anymore, like democracy itself is broken, that I can't cast a ballot and have it even count, the idea of resetting things through assassination or violence starts to creep in for some.

Now that's a scary thought.

But let me throw a wildcard in.

The new wildcard of social media that accelerates everything.

This wasn't around back in the Kennedy years.

Back then, people got their news from a few TV networks and newspapers.

We all operated in the same public square.

Today, there is no mass of America.

There's no mass audience anymore.

It's totally different.

Social media and the fragmentation of our media has created a landscape where people are more isolated than ever before, isolated in their own digital bubble, in an echo chamber that just reinforces their worldview no matter how extreme.

Algorithms feed us more of what we already believe, more of what we're angry about.

The more sensational, the more divisive, the better, right?

And this amplification of extreme views has allowed conspiracy theories, misinformation, radicalization to spread like wildfire and much of it coming from our government itself.

We're not just disagreeing anymore.

We're being radicalized.

When Hillary Clinton, a former presidential candidate and a first lady, says that if you disagree with her version of misinformation,

If you are a purveyor of misinformation as she deems the truth, you should go to jail.

Ideas that would, I mean, would have been way fringe in Kennedy's time.

Now they're just a viral click away.

And the worst part?

It normalizes violent rhetoric.

It makes assassination or violence seem to some like a logical conclusion.

I mean, we're living in a violent world now, right?

What's going to stop it?

Who's going to stop it?

Well, here's where the story takes a turn.

Because there is hope.

The fact that over 28% of Americans, 35 total, believe, sorry, 35 of Democrats that believe an assassination would improve the country is disturbing.

It is a death knell,

but it is also a wake-up call.

It's a signal that something is wrong.

But it is not the end of our story.

In fact, it might be the beginning of something really, really good, a chance for us to turn things around.

Because here's the truth, we've been here before.

We've been divided.

We've been angry.

We've been scared.

We've even been at war with each other.

And every time we found a way through, this time is no different.

But it's going to take effort for all of us, including you and me.

It's going to take all of us, no matter where you stand politically, to recognize that we're part of the same country.

We're part of the same American story.

And if we want that story to continue to be written, then we must restore civility.

We have to start talking to each other again, not shouting, not attacking, but actually talking, engaging in real conversations where we actually listen to one another.

And that's not easy because we're all angry, I get it.

But if we don't start talking, we are never going to find our way out of this.

We also need to return to civic education.

A lot of people don't understand how our republic even works or why it's important.

We need to invest in teaching our kids and adults, frankly, how the system works and why it is so worth saving.

When people understand truly what's at stake, they are less likely to believe that violence is a solution.

And then we need to rebuild trust in one another.

And that is not easy.

But it starts with accountability, with transparency, with leaders who put our country over party.

And it's not going to happen overnight, but step by step, we can rebuild that trust if

we are together.

Here's the bottom line.

Those numbers, 28%, alarming.

But they're also an opportunity for us to step up, to take good, hard looks at where we are and decide to do something about it.

Because the America I know doesn't celebrate violence.

We don't wish harm on our leaders, no matter how much we might disagree with them.

And if we want to save our republic, republic, we have to take a step back.

We have to take a deep breath.

We need to recommit ourselves to the principles that have always made our country great.

Decency, civility, respect.

The truth is, there is hope.

There is always hope.

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You're standing there as the ship becomes closer and closer.

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Why?

What gave us E pluribus unum?

What did they see in America that made them leave behind everything they knew?

What brought so many people from so many different places and so many different backgrounds where they didn't speak the language?

It's not like today

they didn't hop over on a plane to see what it was like.

They came

blindly.

What was it?

For the most part, it was

freedom.

And in the most part, freedom from fear of the government telling them exactly what they could and could not do.

It was the freedom to have a small space of land, to create your own life, to forget all of the titles of the dukes and the earls, and having to do exactly what all of those people, all the elites, told you you had to do, otherwise, you will always be a serf.

Do we still recognize that anymore?

Do we still believe that this is a unique place?

Maybe it hasn't been for a while, but it's because we're not living up to the promise.

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I wanted to bring Brett Weinstein on.

He's an evolutionary biologist, co-host of Dark Horse, the podcast.

He is also one of the founding members of the team putting together Join the Resistance.

And you can find out all the information at jointheresistance.org forward slash donate.

It's September 29th in Washington, so that's a week from this weekend.

I know how you probably feel about going to Washington, kind of the same way I feel about going to Washington, but I am doing my best to clear my schedule and be there just to stand in the crowd with everybody else because I think this is really, really important.

Brett, welcome to the program.

Thanks so much.

It's great to be with you.

One minor correction: the website is jointhereresistance.org.

The name of the event is Rescue the Republic.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Yep, Rescue the Republic.

So tell me what Rescue the Republic is for people who don't know.

Rescue the Republic is more than an event.

It is really, in my opinion, the first meeting of the vast unity coalition that is forming

in large measure in response to the tyranny that is clearly unfolding and planned by what I call the blue team.

I'm embarrassed to say that's the party to which I still belong, the Democratic Party, which has obviously gone rogue.

and opposes all of the values that

are foundational to the West.

So

many of us across the political spectrum have recognized this hazard and are putting aside our political and ideological differences in order to protect this civilization, which has been so good to us and to stave off the disaster that will unfold if

it is destroyed.

So, Brett, I mean, what, eight years ago, you and I wouldn't have been talking, I don't think.

We would have seen each other in the opposite camp.

What is it that I know what brought you out of that and decided to say,

you know,

I need to stand on my own here because some things don't make sense and they're not right.

But what turned you?

What was the turning point for you to say,

this,

my own party is so dangerous to the republic that

I have to sign up and be on the side of Donald Trump.

Well, it wasn't one thing.

It's a consistent pattern of hostility to the things that make the West so productive, vibrant, and innovative.

And, you know, any one of those things could be just myopia of some sort.

But the consistent pattern suggests that we are under the control of people who do not value the system for what it is capable of and find the rights that we are guaranteed by our Constitution galling.

So I can't stand by and watch that happen.

I have children.

I love them.

They need to have a nation and a world that is livable, one in which they are not seen

as a host to some parasitic force, but they are understood to be citizens with rights.

So

in light of what we are up against,

what possible difference could there be between us that would matter?

How do you talk to people?

Because you must hear it all the time.

You must hear from people who say, you know, things, crazy things like, you're a traitor.

How could you possibly do that?

I mean, Donald Trump is out of his mind crazy and he's a danger and we're all going to be in shackles and chains.

How do you talk to those people

and get them to see

the hypnosis in some ways that they're under?

Well, I have

a couple different approaches, but I would say the key thing is to recognize that this is a kind of hypnosis of some sort, and I believe that literally, which means that the people that you're talking to who say that,

nine out of ten of them, maybe 99 out of 100, are victims of something that they don't understand.

They don't see it.

And the way to reach them is incrementally.

The first job is always to let them see your humanity and let them understand that you know what it is that they feel

and that you're concerned about it too.

And what you want is to leave them with the question, if the person I'm sitting across from sounds reasonable to me, they don't sound crazy, they don't sound like they have bizarre objectives or values, how could they possibly have reached such a different conclusion about what we must do now?

That's the question to leave them with.

And then when you return, hopefully they will be curious.

They will have questions about how you could possibly be doing something that in their mind is the height of insanity.

And that's a conversation that most people can have.

You'd be surprised if you can break through the first layer and get past the instinct to either avoid the topic or shut down the counter arguments.

There's a lot of room to discuss where we are and where we should be headed.

So we're running out of time.

What do we have?

50 days before the election.

That's about right.

Yeah.

We are running out of time.

And I've had

really great hope.

I mean, you know, you look at the people who are coming to rescue the Republic.

It's

Bobby Kennedy and it's Tulsi Gabbard.

You're going to be there.

Russell Brand is going to be there.

Charlie Kirk is going to be there.

I mean,

it's a lot of very different people.

Some of the best doctors are going to be there.

Some of the best people on economics is they're going to be speaking.

Very short bursts from everybody on all of the things that are being violated and

how we have to fix it.

How do we do this in 50 days?

Well,

it's obviously a heavy lift, but it's also easier than you would imagine.

And

I'm not sure how to make this point to people, but

all of the political analyses about the election are inherently wrong if they calculate what

the race is going to look like on Election Day based on what we think of as voters.

Because there's a huge collection of people who are not voting.

Some of them don't vote because they're tuned out.

There's nothing to be done in 50 days about those people.

But a huge fraction are actually not voting because they're fed up.

Those people can come off the bench, and if they do so in significant numbers, they can swing any election.

So from my perspective, as somebody who has frankly thought it wise to vote against both parties in almost all of the elections that have taken place for president in my lifetime, this is not the moment to do that and it is certainly not the moment to sit out of the election.

This is the moment to come off the bench and to stand up for the values that make our marvelous nation possible.

If we can get people to recognize that, we can actually make a decisive enough victory that it can overcome what is presumably the margin with which the blue team is capable of cheating.

Elon Musk has said repeatedly now that he feels this is pretty much it.

Western civilization is at stake this time.

Now, that sounds like hyperbole to a lot of people, but on September 11th, you know,

2001,

we all instinctively knew that.

When we were hit that day, we all thought, oh my gosh, this thing is fragile.

It could come apart at any minute.

And

what they were trying to do on 9-11

could be done at the ballot box this time and

destroy not just America, but the entire Western world.

How do you convince people that

that's not hyperbole?

Because most people don't believe it could ever happen.

Yes, I truly believe it's not hyperbole.

And in fact, I believe that we are being slowed down in our recognition that it is actually an ongoing process.

What we are living through is the looting of our system.

The resources are being drained out of it because

those who are orchestrating this understand that they are pulling the plug.

So we need to wake up faster.

that all of this money printing is not the result of foolishness.

This is the end game.

The same can be said of the bubbles that we see in our markets.

And the fact that they have come up with rationalizations for eliminating our most fundamental right to freedom of speech tells you that this is the end of the process.

This is the point at which they do not want us to be able to talk about what they're doing because it's going to go on fast forward.

So I don't think Elon is being hyperbolic at all.

I think he's right on target.

I do too.

And I'm so glad to see people that are

open-minded

and

generally don't vote the same way I do, come to the same conclusion and understand where we are.

So tell me

a little bit about the event on September 29th in Washington.

So the event is a free event.

We are hoping for a very large turnout for a couple of different reasons.

One reason is that it will make it obvious that the support for this new unity coalition is tremendous, and that will make it very hard to sell the story that Kamala Harris has been swept to victory by a wave of support.

The other reason, though, is that seeing people, flesh and blood people, gathering across political differences,

putting ideology aside, is going to be meaningful to the large number of people who are debating in their own minds whether or not to vote or to sit this one out.

We need to motivate them, and motivating them in large numbers will do two things.

One, it will make it possible to win this election decisively, and two, it will make the point to the new administration that really governing from this vast storehouse of talent and insight that exists in the Unity Coalition is the right way to accomplish the job.

This needs to be a new era in which, frankly, the Republican

new Democratic Party is removed from power.

I'm sorry,

you cut out the last sentence or so.

What did you say?

I said

that if we get a large turnout, that this will make the point that this Unity coalition, which contains so much talent and insight, is the proper team to usher in a new era in which the Republican Party is transformed into something new and the Democratic Party is removed from power.

That is remarkable.

And I have to tell you, I'm so excited for Elon Musk and Robert F.

Kennedy and Tulsi and all of the people now.

We're getting the real

innovative thinkers to join with Trump.

And I think that it promises to be a completely different world

if he takes advantage of it and the American people take advantage of this team that is growing.

Thank you so much.

I want to encourage you to not only go

to rescue the Republic, it is happening September 29th in Washington, D.C.

But also, if you can, you can show your support by donating.

This is a very worthy cause.

This is honestly, this is the 9-12 project from

the people we would have said are the other side.

They agree with the principles that we put out.

This is so incredibly hopeful and important.

And I know what it's like to put this together,

especially with the names that they're bringing in.

My gosh, you have everybody under the sun.

They asked me to speak, and I was like, no, I think I can just go and listen.

I don't think I need to speak.

RFK Jr., Russell Brand, Tulsi Gabbard, Matt Taibbi, Laura Logan,

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If you can donate, please jointheresistance.org slash donate.

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It is critical as the government always makes things more and more expensive as you get closer and closer.

Jointheresistance.org slash donate, and it's happening next weekend, September 29th, right at the Washington Memorial in Washington, D.C.

Brett, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

All right.

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Hello, America.

Welcome to to the Glenn Beck program.

We have a lot to talk about.

One,

what the Intel community came out with yesterday and said that Iran hacked into the Trump campaign, got documents, and then shared them with the Harris Biden team.

The Intel...

If that's what the Intel community is telling the American people, how bad is it really?

I mean, is like, Kamala, I mean, is she a secret mullah?

I mean,

if they come out with that, what's really going on?

We'll start there in 60 seconds.

All right, the Fed, in its last meeting before this year's election, decided to

interfere in the, I mean, decided to cut interest rates.

And

it was kind of an out-of-the-blue thing to do.

I mean, people were saying, well, maybe they'll cut, you know, a quarter point.

Some people were hoping for half a point.

So you have some idea.

When you cut half a point, the times that they did that was 2008.

They did it at COVID in 2020.

And then I think it was September 11th.

Was that right?

And then the dot-com bubble.

They've never cut rates by 50 basis points unless you're in real trouble.

Okay, so what is it?

Are we just so healthy that you're going to cut rates like you've never had before, except at extreme points of distress?

Well, you'll have to decide.

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I'm glad you're here.

Thanks, Clint.

You're welcome.

So you were with the Marines, and you did military intelligence

during the Afghanistan portion of the war.

Thank you for your service.

When the Intel community comes out and says that

Iran hacked Donald Trump, got secret information, and then passed it to the White House and the Harris-Biden campaign.

What do you think actually happened?

The wording is very interesting because that's not how the intelligence community talks anymore.

So after Iraq, once they were saying words like, oh, yeah, Saddam Hussein definitely has weapons of mass destruction.

Oh, we're totally going to find them.

Oh, yeah, this is absolutely what's happening.

They were like, you know, after we didn't find any, they were like, ooh, okay, well, let's stop saying this, this happened, or this totally happened, or it's absolutely.

They went to saying, unless it's about Hunter Biden.

We have, right, right, exactly.

But that really didn't happen.

That's the only thing the press isn't doing right now.

It's just when there's facts coming out, they just don't go.

Stay tuned.

Election night.

Looks like Trump is doing well.

They went to words like, we have a low probability or we have moderate probability or high probability.

So if this, in my opinion, was very, very like, we really want the, you know,

this absolutely happened and we really want the American public to know this without any of their ulterior motives, they would say, we have a high probability that something like this happened.

But that's not exactly the words that they use.

What did they use?

Just pretty much exactly how you said it.

Right.

Right.

That it happened.

So, what are you saying?

Did this not come from the intelligence community?

Is this

some other sort of psyop?

Why would they, why would they come out and say the intelligence community, who I think is, you know, partially

some would say in a fictional world, I don't say this.

This is crazy talk.

Some would say maybe the intelligence community was, you know, sharpening their skills after Kennedy and like, oh, you know what, let's try this again, see if we can get away with it again.

I have very little trust.

And I think that's the, you know, the entire country feels this way, especially in our military-industrial complex, but also our intelligence services and federal law enforcement.

I have very little trust, not the guys on the ground, but the leadership up at the top.

Right.

And I think that they all, and this is my biggest worry, Glenn, if there should be a Kamala Harris victory in about, what, a month and a half, is that they have a rendezvous with war.

And they are looking for

every possible excuse they can find, wherever it may be on the globe, which we do have a new Axis power right now.

We do have one.

There is an allies and an axis.

Yes.

I don't remember.

Well, I think that was on a chalkboard about five years ago.

Was it?

Did some crazy dude talk about that?

Yeah, he did.

He said that after the implosion of trust, a new

axis of powers would realign.

That dude probably said there was going to be a financial crisis in the caliphate.

Oh, my God.

Come on.

Yeah, I know.

He's crazy.

Anyway, yeah.

So

before we get into war, I don't understand your point on the Iran thing.

Do you think that they were just making that up?

I think that, let's say there could be actors from within the Middle East or within Iran, anything at all that could give them an excuse.

I do not,

everything I see them right now that is very, very antagonistic with a lot of our adversaries all over the world.

But the White House loves Iran.

I mean, wouldn't be surprised if it was pillow talk.

That's what's so crazy, too, is that was their love affair back during the Obama administration and even the beginning of the Biden administration.

But now as they're supplying weapons to Russia and exchanging missile technology and all these other things,

including troves of drones over to the Russians, things are starting to change a bit.

So

it's the craziest thing to watch how the sides are appearing right now.

And there's a huge line in the globe that's been drawn.

You're either on this side or on that side.

And if you're not totally for rushing for any excuse to go to war, then you're in bed with them.

Is there a place that I could go where I'm on nobody's side?

You know what I mean?

I'd like to go to that place.

Is there a visa?

Maybe?

Yeah, I mean, well, we should have had visas here for Texas.

I mean, because I'm not on,

I am not on

Russia's side.

I am not on Ukraine's side.

I am on, really, I'm on common sense side.

What happened?

You saw the bombing last night in Russia.

Yeah.

Explain that.

That was, so I don't think that was, I think it was a couple of days ago.

A couple of nights ago.

Yeah.

I saw it yesterday.

Those were suicide drones that were launched from Ukraine inside Russia.

So it was a long range, it's considered a long-range attack that hit a weapons depot within Russia.

And the explosion, you can see it on X, you can see it all over.

It's almost like a small nuke.

In fact, and beware of false information on that, because there was a lot of accounts that were saying NATO launched a nuclear weapon.

That's not what happened.

It was not a small nuclear weapon.

It was just the size and scope of that blast because of all the munitions.

Now, imagine that's a debate going on right now within NATO and the Biden administration.

How is this even a debate?

I don't know.

I mean, since the wall came down, we made the promise we wouldn't put long-range missiles.

That is like putting,

it's not even Cuba.

That's like putting Soviet or Russian missiles on the border of Mexico and America.

I mean,

it's on the border, and we've always said we wouldn't do that.

And he's telling us, just like he did with NATO, guys,

just promise me

you won't make Ukraine a NATO country.

We violated that.

They went into war.

Now he's saying don't put weapons.

That will be an act of war.

And we will now fight against NATO.

And they're still talking about it.

What the hell is wrong with us?

Yeah, no, I do not know.

And the crazy thing is that the people that used to advocate against this kind of aggression are now the ones in power pushing for it.

That's probably, Glenn, this is probably the scariest thing.

And there's a lot of scary things if Kamala would win in November.

I gotta tell you.

Economy, everything.

Everything.

But this right now, the way they're moving us on this path.

I know.

I don't, we're not going to get off that path at all.

And the correct.

We will with Trump.

Oh, absolutely will with Trump.

He's not going to do that.

He's shown that he will not do that.

That's another thing.

It's so crazy.

That was their main concern.

They said back in 2016.

Oh, he's going to look and listen to him.

He sounds crazy.

He's going to run us right into war.

We're going to be be at war everywhere.

That's what they did.

I know.

And are still doing.

I know.

Right now in Ukraine,

there was a geopolitics person, one of the fathers, his name was Alfred McKinder, and he talked about this theory called the World Island Theory.

You might have heard about it.

Our containment theory was kind of based on stopping someone pursuing the world island.

But basically,

it's that area of like Western Russia, Ukraine, and like Eastern Germany.

They said whoever controls that area will be the dominant superpower in the world.

Nobody else will be able to compete with them.

So our strategy has always been to stop any other power from controlling that area.

Well, right now it feels like the Biden administration, NATO, and all Western leaders have said, screw that.

We're not doing containment anymore.

We want to control the world island and we are willing to go to war with anyone else that stops us.

It almost feels like roles have been reversed.

Have you seen the resources that are in Ukraine?

I caution you not to look them up.

Because if you do, you're like, everything that they want to do with the green agenda, all the natural resources they need,

a lot of them are in Africa.

You see China going after ones in Africa.

They're in Ukraine.

Oh, I know.

Lithium, ore,

maybe the biggest ore reserves in the world.

I believe BlackRock is now the largest farm owner in Ukraine.

They've just come in and just, and remember, that is the breadbasket of Europe.

Yeah.

And they're now, BlackRock now owns most of the farmland over there.

This is really,

I mean, boy, when this is all exposed and

you have actual journalists doing work, this is just going to, I mean, this is why they can't allow Donald Trump in for a couple of reasons.

Absolutely.

One,

everything will change.

These tracks will stop dead.

And the other thing is

it will all be exposed.

And when it's all exposed, I mean all of these people will go to jail or will be absolute pariahs in our society because of the damage that they've already brought I mean we are just beginning to see the damage most of the programs and everything else that Biden Harris passed and got done they start next year They start in 2025.

So you haven't really even felt the effects

of this monstrosity that they're building.

How likely do you think it is we're going to war?

Have you seen any rhetoric that says they're willing to back down?

No, it's a win-or-nothing scenario for them.

Russia just upped their troop count to the number two largest active duty standing in the world.

They can't back down.

Putin's not going to back down.

I think the only thing that would make them back down is

if there was some kind of coup against Putin or if he leaves office and some other crazy madmen didn't come in.

But the only thing I say, there's really no good people behind Putin.

But if he left, it would give the next leader in Russia the opportunity to say, hey, that was that guy.

Like he got us into this.

I've got a new plan, and then they can go to the table.

And the same thing could happen with Trump.

Same thing could happen with Trump.

Did you guys hear yesterday that on MSNBC, in fact, do we have this sound?

MSNBC.

Yeah, listen to this.

Cut three.

You got to hear this.

It's crazy.

But Kamala Harris would be just the opposite.

Why?

Because she's an inspiration.

Not only is she positive, does she bring hope and optimism, but as a black woman,

the product of a mixed marriage, she will inspire millions of people throughout the world.

Our credibility as a nation, you know, that we would be able to allow our country is so great that we're allowed a woman like that to become the commander-in-chief, the president of the United States.

That is going to send a powerful message all over the world.

People like Vladimir Putin are going to say, hey, wait a minute, these guys, you know, they truly have a democratic country.

They truly are representative.

They truly are fighting for all our people.

And Kamala Harris is a manifestation of that.

Wow.

What?

Wow.

I want to see that at the negotiating table.

Yeah.

So there's some Russians speaking very, you know, sinister Russian,

and they're like, well, we'll drop the nuclear weapons.

And Harris is like, well, I grew up poor.

And I grew up in a mixed-race family.

You should see my lawn.

Whoa, amazing.

That Putin would be afraid of a very strong, powerful, mixed-race woman.

We miscalculated.

Damn, they foiled us again.

The guy has been in the wetworks business for a long time.

I don't think he's going to go, you know,

I think they've got something going on here.

Wow.

I think I'm actually afraid of her.

That could be our undoing.

Not a chance in the world.

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All right, we have, we have so much to go over.

Let me, let me just, can we just go through the news on just a few things and just get your comments on it, you and Stu, you and Jason.

Teamsters came out yesterday.

Yeah.

And for the first time, I think since the 90s, since I think George H.W.

Bush, they decided not to endorse a candidate.

And the reason why they're not endorsing a candidate this time, last time was 1988,

is because the union members rejected the Democratic ticket.

And the Teamsters were like,

I've heard about members of the Teamsters.

We shouldn't mess with them.

The mobsters up at the top were afraid of the Teamsters.

But I mean, it was really close.

That's the thing.

It was like right on a razor's edge.

You couldn't tell which side did they really support.

and that's why

they didn't endorse, right?

Yeah.

Let's see.

It was 59.6 of union members said Trump, and 34 said Harris.

Right, and six and three

are the beginnings of those numbers are right near each other, only a couple away.

Right.

So it's pretty much really close to how thin.

How cowardice, this is the first time ever the word cowardice and the Teamsters were in the same sentence.

But what cowards the Teamster, the the university leadership were to

say, we're not going to make an endorsement, but here's a poll of what our people say.

Yeah.

I mean, it's basically an endorsement.

60% of the Teamster members are all like, no, we've got to go with it.

It's cowardly by the leadership, but how brave by the members?

I mean, really brave.

It is really brave to stand up and say, you know what, this direction we've gone for all these years is wrong and the other candidates the right one.

We're not going to stick by and vote for the people that everyone tells us to vote for.

I mean, that's not always easy to do.

People don't like to get out of those rocks.

Do they know they're messing with the Teamsters?

That's a good point.

All right.

Jerome Powell yesterday blamed the influx of illegal immigrants for rising unemployment rate.

What?

How's that possible?

Or do you see risk that further labor market cooling will have to come through job losses?

So

on the job creation,

it depends on the inflows, right?

So if you're having millions of people come into the labor force, then you're creating 100,000 jobs, you're going to see unemployment go up.

So it really depends on what's the trend underlying the volatility of people coming into the country.

We understand there's been quite an influx across the borders, and that has actually been one of the things

that's allowed unemployment rate to rise.

And the other thing is just the slower hiring rate, which is something we also watch carefully.

So it does depend on what's happening on the side.

So

may I just translate bull crap to English?

We're importing a lot of people who are taking jobs from Americans.

That's just what he's saying.

We're importing people that shouldn't be here.

Companies are hiring them and firing Americans.

And by the way, they also go home to a nice hotel room or a paid-for apartment or maybe even a condominium.

They get free food, free health care.

They get everything.

And they might be able to even vote.

But you,

can you just pay your taxes, please?

It's unpatriotic to not pay your taxes because we have so many people that are really in need that we need to take care of in these hotels.

In these hotels.

I mean,

this has turned into into an absolute clown show how people believe any of this stuff is

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So, yesterday, something odd happened.

Hamas and Hezbollah named Benjamin Netanyahu a global terrorist,

which is, I don't understand.

I mean, it's weird to,

you know, award him their highest award

in

Hamas and Hezbollah.

To name him a terrorist, I think that's

weird, but they gave him that award yesterday.

Was it like an award show?

Yeah, I think it was.

I think there was.

Congratulations.

Biggest terrorist in the world.

Goes to Benjamin Netanyahu.

Come on down, Benny.

There you go, buddy.

Yeah.

Knew you could do it.

We did it, everybody.

Strange, strange to have a Jew

at that award show, but I think accepting on behalf of Benjamin Netanyahu

is this beeper.

Boy, would you have to freak out.

We're joined

on the program by

Jason Buttrill, who is my chief researcher and also former military intelligence.

So he's

a bit slippery, but we watch him around the cash register.

Anyway,

the thing with

the Mossad, that mission just with the beepers, and then what was it, Walkie Talkies yesterday?

Yeah.

I mean, that is...

Great.

I wouldn't use a toaster if I worked for Hezbollah.

I would be afraid of all electronics.

It's the greatest intelligence operation in history.

Bar none.

Really?

No exaggeration.

Go back all the way through the Cold War.

The greatest in history.

It's insane.

And just think about what happened.

You remember, I don't know if you read this yesterday, but I think it was in maybe July or June or July, Reuters came out with this article talking about the ingenuity of Hezbollah and how because the Israeli intelligence were snooping in on some of their commander's cell phones, they got smart.

They're crafty devils, what they are.

And they switched to beepers.

Things like beepers and some other low-tech.

I just thought they all thought that they were like doctors from the 1990s.

Like a 94 stockbroker.

Something like that.

When I first heard that, I thought, who's still using beepers?

But now I understand why.

Yeah.

So, I mean, so they made this switch.

Well, just think about what was involved in this operation.

So Israel obviously knew they wanted to make a change because they were snooping around on their phones.

So they had to have contacted a producer, some supplier of beepers.

No, no, it's better than that.

I talked to a former spokesperson yesterday of the IDF.

Do you hear what he said?

Yeah, what did he say?

He said, well, thanks for listening to the show.

Jeez.

He said that they knew, because they had inside sources at this company, that Hezbollah had put in a gigantic order.

So they diverted that.

shipment without the company or Hezbollah knowing.

They just diverted it, changed all the beepers on the inside, put it on back onto the plane.

Nobody knew the difference.

I mean, that, just that is remarkable.

So yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at.

That right there is that that's a whole portion of the operation.

That's just insane.

And then you would have to do something.

I don't think that this was just malware that overloaded batteries because some of the explosions were pretty large.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

So they must have put in some kind of accelerant or explosive into the beepers along with the malware.

And then they went off to every single Hezbollah Hezbollah operative that they wanted to have these beepers.

Now, think about it.

Not only did they take out multiple different operatives, but they were also able to provide mapping information to where every single one of these operatives shop, where they live, where they report in for work.

Unbelievable.

It's insane.

And there are, I mean, it's hard to know exactly what happened here.

There's a bunch of different theories, but one of the stories I read yesterday, I think it was in the Wall Street Journal, but it was one of the ones I read yesterday, said that they set up this distributor.

It was a shell company owned by

Israeli intelligence that was operating for months before they even switched to the pagers.

And they were actually shipping working normal pagers to other companies around the world to be normal.

And then they waited for the order to come in from Hezbollah and then set them all up this way with exploding pagers.

What kind of distributor?

Like, he also sells swatch watches, tax machines, beta VHS players, stuff like that.

Oh, and beepers.

I got to say, too, if you've got one of these beefers in the Netherlands or something from this company and it's working fine, I think I'm throwing it out.

Just in case somebody messed up the order,

I'm a little concerned.

But that's incredible.

Why are you coming in with your Blackberry?

Well, nobody has a Blackberry anymore.

Well, I got a cheap suit.

I got a whole box of them.

I'm handing them out.

The Kamala Harris campaign said, hand them to all your friends who support Trump.

It's an insane, it's also, it's a great operation.

It also, I think it was a premature operation.

I believe that either, I think there was some reporting

some Hezbollah people might have found out that this was going to happen, so they had to do it.

I would just use it or lose it.

This is something they were probably, I would assume, waiting for if Hezbollah decides to do another Hezbollah-Israel war, they would launch this to provide confusion while they were doing the invasion or something.

So it's a little bit unfortunate that that happened, but still absolutely amazing what they were able to pull off.

So Donald Trump now is, quote, according to the press, threatening to go to Ohio and Springfield.

He's threatening it.

He's threatening it.

Oh, no.

He's threatening it.

Yeah, he's threatening.

He's like,

I'm coming there.

I'm coming there.

And if you're eating dogs and cats when I get there, there'll be hell to pay.

But the press is just going crazy that he would dare go there.

I have to tell you, I mean, what you're seeing in some of these cities, what you're seeing in Colorado, notice nobody's talking about Colorado anymore.

What you're seeing in Colorado,

this was a setup.

This was in the American Recovery Act.

They had all of the money put there so they could give it to NGOs to

pay for all the hotels.

Can you imagine how much money is being siphoned off?

How much of your money is just going to really bad things or graft?

Oh, I mean, there's at least, there's over a quarter of a billion dollars that's just going to provide medical care for detained illegals.

Over a quarter of a billion dollars.

So you understand that's more than we gave Ukraine.

What?

Quarter of a billion.

We gave Ukraine a lot more than a quarter of a billion dollars.

No, didn't we?

We were, we were about a hundred, I thought we were at like $175 billion.

Right.

Well, this would be like

this is like a 300 million dollars.

Right.

So we gave more than we gave to Ukraine.

I don't think you know what numbers mean.

It could be.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I was seeing a quarter.

I'm sorry.

Yes.

I'm sorry.

You dinged me last time I was on for math.

Yes.

I got you.

Now you're doing much better.

You're taking the lead, Jesus.

That's fine.

That's fine.

I'm spot.

I'm looking at you like, are you making some intricate point I'm not getting?

I'm like, this is such simple maths, dude.

What the hell is wrong with you?

You usually get this stuff, not me.

It happens to all of us.

I mean, it is, I mean, it is, it's, it's crazy.

And I mean, I want to talk to you about this again because we're just not going to have time.

But

the

veterans of our country that are homeless today, And we just couldn't find any money to take care of our homeless veterans.

We just couldn't find any way to make their medical care just a little bit better.

And yet we're taking people that are not even from this country and not here because, you know, they believe in the American way.

I mean, here's the latest.

Shoplifting and vehicle thefts soared as Haitian migrants poured into Springfield, Ohio.

That's happening all over the country.

Why is your insurance rate of your car going through the roof?

Bingo.

This, because we have all kinds of people who don't know how to drive that are driving the rates of of insurance up why is your medical insurance going up why is it hard to get into hospitals why why are all of these things happening it's all this

and if we're spending this much money why aren't we spending it on americans why aren't we spending it on heroes our veterans yeah as a

it is absolutely insane this really hit home to me when we found out about what they were what California and places like Oregon are doing for homes um all but basically giving them free homes illegals.

I mean, and I was like, I was looking back at, actually, let me just take you back to around September, August, September, early September of 2001.

I remember that I was on a ship.

I didn't know I was about to be going to Afghanistan, but we were about to.

My wife was pregnant.

We didn't have a home.

We were in a crappy apartment in California.

And I was looking for, when I got back, one,

can I afford a home?

Two,

can I get on better insurance?

Because the VA insurance sucks.

Can I even get a job?

Because it was hard and you're basically a second-class citizen in California for a veteran.

You are.

Maybe it's different in Northern California, but not in Southern California.

These are all these worries.

And I don't know, Glenn, if you know this, but you probably know this, but the majority of the country probably doesn't.

But on Sunday, September 22nd is the National Veterans Suicide Awareness Day.

Sunday.

We know when Pride Month is.

We see protests all the time for illegals and all this different action, bills going through, people fighting in the streets.

Who knows about Sunday?

Does anyone know that?

No.

Hardly anyone knows that because these are real stresses that veterans have.

And every single veteran right now that I talk to every single week is like,

we have a VA loan.

We've fought and bled for it.

But now if you're an illegal, you can come right in and go to California and just get a free house.

How the hell is that fair?

How is there around $300 million that's getting siphoned off off to illegals that are detained to get medical treatment?

And we can go to the VA and get on a wait list for about a month, possibly maybe get help, maybe get help.

What the hell is that?

How can I, I just Google right now, I want to go to school, a university, but I'm illegal.

Look through all the different scholarship programs and assistance through in whatever state and whatever school.

You can get it done.

These are things that we look for as veterans that like, this is, again, I lost friends.

i went through this fought for my country but at least i have that to fall back on at least i earned that what the hell did these people earn

why are we still protesting and acting like we owe these people something that is equivalent to something that uh a service member died or bled for more than that i don't you're getting better care as a legal than we give our veterans and it's an abomination an absolute abomination and then you look at people like that there was that factory worker.

This sent me over the edge.

There was that factory owner in, was it Springfield?

I think it was in Springfield, Ohio, where he was like, hey, I wish I had 30 more of these Haitians.

They now have work visas.

I wish I had more of them.

They don't have drug problems.

Assuming that

the rest of us, the other citizens do have drug problems.

I don't know.

He wants to fill his factory up with more of these guys.

When right now, from ages 25 to 55 men, there's 7 million Americans that do not have work, cannot find work.

7 million.

But since 2019, there have been, I think it's 75% of the increase to the workforce has all been through immigration.

Kind of exactly what Jerome Powell is talking about.

Go ahead.

Play it.

You're making all these accommodations for a whole bunch of people.

Springfield.

What are you going to do

when they got to leave?

This is just a neighbor.

You're spending all this money.

You're asking for more money now

immigrants.

And our people, our citizens are living on the streets.

You're not being taken care of.

While you're asking for more money,

include our homeless people.

Include our veterans that are on the streets, people that fought for this country.

This is an invasion.

And a lot of people feel like that.

I'm not the only one, but I got the,

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I got to tell you, somebody, a veteran, needs to organize the veterans who are upset about this and

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I am so outraged by this.

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Well, the Fed did something yesterday that the only times in history they have done it, recent history, they did it in 2020, the start of COVID.

Then before that, it was the end of 2007, right before the the financial collapse and the Great Recession.

Before that, they did it during the dot-com bubble.

I mean,

they cut the interest rate by 50 basis points.

That's a big cut.

I know it probably doesn't mean much to you.

It's confusing to me because I don't know what signal we're supposed to get from this, especially when the only times they've ever done it is when we're just about at a panic situation.

So I don't know, but Carol Roth does.

She joins me in just a couple of seconds here first.

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Welcome to the program, Carol Roth.

I'm hoping you can make sense and maybe some good news out of what happened yesterday because I can't find a way to it

because of the history of cutting the interest rate rate this much.

My first thought was, this is election interference by the Fed.

My second thought was, when did they last do this?

And it didn't lead, neither of those lead to good things.

So what's really going on here, Carol?

Well, first of all, Glenn, I just want you to know that I am unburdened by what has been.

And now

the market is in terms of interest rates because we are in a rate-cutting environment.

And I think the important thing to remember is that when we talk about rate heights, rate cuts, anything the Fed's doing, we have to keep it in context.

And the backdrop is that we came out of 15 years of what's called ZERB, zero interest rate policy,

where the interest rates were at or near zero, unprecedented, as well as the Fed putting $9 trillion plus on its balance sheet.

So this is an unprecedented, does not have an analog that we can directly compare to.

Not to say that it's not important to go back and look at what's happened historically, but it doesn't mean exactly the same thing.

And cutting 50 basis points or half a percent today is different than when we're cutting it when interest rates are at 2%.

So I just wanted to put that out.

I also am somebody who, as you know, have said on this program many times that I think the Fed's been way behind the curve.

I think that they went up too high and that they were too slow to cut to begin with.

So we'll put that from a backdrop standpoint.

So how does the market interpret and how should individuals interpret a cut?

Well, there's the potentially the bad and potentially the good.

So we'll walk through both of those real quickly.

So the potential bad is the signal.

When you are saying that the economy is doing amazing and it's just, you know, it's ripping along.

And then to do a very large cut, they could have done half of that.

They could have done 25 basis points, but to come out after not doing anything and say, oh, we got to move 50 points can send a signal to say things are not going so well.

If you looked at the market yesterday, they were not taking the news so great, but

it went up, and then when he cut it, it went way down.

And then it went, they gave up back all the gains yesterday, but today they've had a day to digest it, and the market thinks that this is a good thing.

Now, the market's not the economy.

So, you know,

but

again, after 15 years of zero interest rate policy, you know, it does make sense for us to get back to what's considered a neutral rate.

Is this an inflationary move, though?

So that's the question.

So, if you think about what the neutral rate is, which is theoretical, we don't know the number, but basically, it's the dividing line between policy that is restrictive and policy that is accommodative.

And what we're trying to do is have the Fed have no influence in either direction.

I believe that we are still in that restrictive area.

So, bringing it down from two, four, three-quarters to 5%,

again, is not the same as bringing it down to 2%.

And so I don't think that will cause inflation.

We have to remember, too, again, going back to where I started.

Companies and individuals had 15 years to take out debt at basically no cost.

This is sitting on companies' balance sheets.

They took every piece that they could.

And consumers right now don't have a lot of runway.

So the idea of a rate cut unleashing massive demand when we've gone to four three-quarters to five percent i don't see this as something that's going to unleash massive demand so here's here's i i just love your opinion on this as a businessman i know i wouldn't be spending a dime right now on hiring building anything not a dime until i see what happens at the election and depending on the election if we go with Harris and we become much more restrictive and harder and more global and everything else,

I mean, then I'm just battening down the hatches.

If Trump gets in, I'd be willing to invest because, all right, good, we've got somebody who understands business, we can hire some more people, et cetera, et cetera.

I don't see anybody making

those moves rationally, no matter what the interest rate is

at this point.

Do you?

I think that's a logical way to digest it.

I think that in terms of one of your first statements is, is this political?

The Biden-Harris administration are going to be pushing out and saying, look, we've got inflation under control.

The Fed said so, otherwise they wouldn't have lowered it and lowered it by so much.

So I think that is the push that they're going out and telling, trying to convince people.

Now, they've been trying to convince people of things that make absolutely no sense for the last three and a half years.

So, you know, if I'm a business person, do I go ahead and make the investments?

Probably not, but are there some people who might?

You know,

it's a push.

But I do think the challenge is it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that if you get worried that there is a recession and you create these restrictive

behaviors, that becomes self-fulfilling.

And that's one of the things that we end up worrying about.

All right.

So let me just ask you one more thing.

He mentioned

the problem with unemployment.

Unemployment's going on because you just added 7 to 20 million people to

the country.

I mean, people are saying anecdotally that,

and we are, I guess, seeing it in numbers, that the jobs that are being filled are being filled with illegals and not American citizens.

How long can that go on before it's just

an absolute wreck?

So the way that I've interpreted the economy is I see it as K-shaped.

If you think about the letter K, you have, you know, that one part of the K that goes up and the other part that goes down.

And you have the people who are at the lower end of the K who have been struggling and the people who are at that higher part of the K, the asset holders, the people with the white collar jobs and the homes who have been doing well.

And you have to remember that what we've been seeing is it really is that higher part of the K that has been pulling the economy along.

So not only do we have those illegals who are coming in.

coming in and creating drains on everything, right?

They're creating drains on employment, on the national debt, on housing, on everything.

But we're also starting to see these cracks in the white collar labor market.

When you hear Amazon saying, oh, we want everybody back in the office, it means that companies now have the power to demand that when they didn't have the power.

And buried in that statement was, oh, we're trying to get rid of some managers.

We've seen more and more layoffs on the tech side.

So if we see that crack from the white collar piece, I think at least in the short term, that's going to have the biggest impact on shifting what's going to happen here.

And I think that's what the Fed is signaling.

They're trying to get ahead of.

Whether or not they can do that remains to be seen because usually they're always late.

But it's true.

We have a drag on both sides.

We have that drag that's happening on the white collar piece.

And then we have this massive illegal immigration that's putting strains on the system.

And that is going to completely shift things.

And I will say, Glenn, we hear all of these people talking about

technology and AI and how it's going to replace jobs.

If you think that it's going to replace jobs, the jobs that are going to replace are unskilled workers, right?

The person who's making your burrito and Chipotle and the like, you could possibly make an argument that we do not need any more legal immigration in this country, with the exception of some very high merit-based people at all,

in addition to this travesty that's happening with the illegal immigration.

So, this is going to be, you know, hopefully, we can get President Trump in there, but this needs to be attacked in a serious fashion because it's going to have massive implications for the economy on top of the biggest issue, and it feeds right into it, which is the debt and the deficit spending that continues to grow that debt, the fact that that's unwieldy.

So, all of these things are puzzle pieces, but we can't let the noise about a Fed rate cut or what's happening distract us from that big issue.

We need to grow the economy and we need to reduce spending so we can get debt to GDP back to a normalized level and be able to save our country.

Carol, thank you.

Appreciate it.

Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own Nothing, former investment banker and

contributor to Blaze and also to this program.

I just love her.

She explains things the way

people like me talk, just regular people.

Carol, thank you so much.

It's CarolRoth.com slash news.

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You know, one of the things that is really very concerning is how much money we are

shifting over to third world countries.

You know, a lot of people will come here and then they'll work and they'll take that money and they will send it back home.

That means there's fewer dollars in our economy that hurts us when stuff like that is happening.

And

we're doing it everywhere.

And then we're having the taxpayers who are already burdened having to pay for the hotels and everything else.

And by the way, that was all planned in the American Recovery Act.

So don't let Biden or Harris tell you that

they're against this and they were surprised by it because it was in the American Recovery Act in 2021.

We didn't know it at the time.

We had to go find it now that they're spending all this money.

Who's paying for the hotels?

Who's paying for all that?

Well, you are through the American Recovery Act.

And you're sending all that money into NGOs that you don't know who they are.

I don't know who they are.

I bet you some of them aren't really good.

But that's what's happening.

And our vets and the people who have actually struggled and tried to make ends meet, our vets especially who are

on the streets.

Our government said they couldn't do anything to help them.

Well, wait a minute.

We brought this up last hour and the phones are jammed with veterans, so I want to take those when we come back in 60 seconds first.

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And is it Batia?

Is that how you say your name, sir?

I'm not a servant.

Thank you anyway.

Oh, I'm sorry.

My name is Natalia.

I am a Vietnam-era veteran of the Women's Army Corps.

I serve stateside, and I talk to a lot of veterans on social media and on the telephone because I happen to be bedridden at the moment.

I would like to tell you that they are outraged at the way that the illegals are being favored over people who have actually been wounded in combat, both psychologically and physically.

And I myself am outraged because I was living in a low-income housing project.

They threw all of us out to accommodate the influx of

these illegal people.

And we were getting because I can't go anywhere, I was getting a hot meal for Meals on Wheels every day, but now it's only limited to one meal on Fridays because the food is going to the illegals, apparently.

Also here are going to get two-thirds Social Security cut because the illegals want the money.

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Yeah.

Artificial intelligence.

But wait, wait, wait, wait.

Where are you in Texas?

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Austin.

You're in Austin.

And you're only getting one hot meal a week?

That's correct, sir.

Okay.

I'm going to put you on hold.

Let's get her phone number.

There's got to be somebody in Austin, a group, a church, anybody that can help Battia get more than one hot meal a week, bedridden, and a vet.

Let me go to David in Florida.

Hi, David.

Hi, how are you doing, sir?

I'm good.

I happen to be a vet myself, and I'm very fortunate because I'm also a mechanical engineer, and I've worked in the oil and gas industries for the last 30 years.

I was in the Iraqi conflict that served two tours over there.

So I've never had some of the problems that my brothers and sisters in the military have had and I've always been very fortunate.

But on week one of Joe Biden's administration, when he shut off that oil line, the oil and gas industry shut down.

I lost my job and I've now been unemployed for like the last five months.

And I'm very serious.

I have a list.

I keep it.

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I have a list of over 5,000 jobs I've applied for in the last five months, and not one company is hiring, and I've never gone more than a week with my background.

Thirty years experience, I get hired almost immediately, and it's that bad.

And it gets even better.

I applied for unemployment, which I didn't want to do because I'm a man and we don't want to do that.

I know.

That's what it's for, though, when you have no other choice.

Yes, exactly.

It's called unemployment insurance for a reason.

So I applied for it.

And the state of Florida said, oh, you haven't lived here long enough, so you have to go back to Texas.

That was five months ago.

I still have not.

I'm like almost out of savings, and I don't need anything.

I'm fine.

I'm just saying it's that bad.

And yes, if they're giving billions of dollars to illegals, this has got to stop immediately.

David,

thank you.

I'm sorry to hear this.

This is just such a, this is a blight.

This is, you know what this is?

This is as embarrassed as I was on the day we pulled out of Afghanistan.

That's how embarrassing this is.

That's how shameful this is.

And we all know it.

I mean, look,

I'm preaching to the choir.

I don't think there are Democrats out there who,

you know, except for the political ones.

I mean,

who thinks this is fair or right?

I don't think any of them.

I mean, this has to change.

It has to change.

The way to change it is to vote this system out.

But, you know,

I will support any veterans organization that is legitimate and

really wants to, you know, change things.

You should

call me because I would love to support you.

I would love to.

If you're going to do a march or whatever you're going to do, I am with you on that.

Let me go to Johnny in Florida.

Hello, Johnny.

Hello, sir.

How are you?

I'm good.

Yes, I'm a veteran myself, and I actually work at the VA, and I recently...

do you have something over your phone or well, I'm just trying to cover my voice a little bit.

I'll just talk.

I guess it doesn't matter.

People will find me, they find me.

I'm a veteran myself, and I also work at the VA, and I can tell you that there's miles and miles and miles of corruption.

I did a podcast a little while ago with a couple of guys, and I tried sharing it with you as well.

And a couple of people at Blaze Me.

Oh, Jason.

Hi, Jason.

If he's still there.

yeah he is uh

hello jarhead i'm a squid

uh it's it's pathetic i mean veterans aren't even the third priority on a good day and as far as the illegals go they've been uh trying to appropriate funds from the va i believe you and blaze media had written that story they're taking illegals to va medical centers for treatment yeah and yeah everywhere you look it's veterans are being kicked out of homes okay so wait are veterans not getting medical care or standing in line because of illegals at the VA hospitals?

I don't know for sure, but

I haven't seen it personally, but I know that the VA medical centers have been used for a

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There are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things I do not believe.

That has been a mantra of mine for a very long time.

You know, I was talking to somebody and they said, you should keep a diary.

And I said, you know, my diary is my show.

And they said, no, it's not, because you don't say everything that you, that you actually believe is coming and what's happening.

And I said, okay, yeah, you're right.

So I started keeping a diary.

Let me share something that,

you know, I told Stu at one point, if I ever shared things like this, you'll know how much trouble we're in.

And

I kind of gave you a color code, right?

Yeah.

We're at the ruby red layer.

So I want you to understand, we're going to give you some poll numbers here.

Stu has been working on, but they're not his poll numbers.

These are just a compilation of all of the polls.

And to give a good idea of where we are, where we are is not good.

Okay.

I,

in my faith, we have a hundred-plus-old

prophecy about America.

And

it says

in

short form here, that there will come a time in the latter days where America will begin to fail, and

its Constitution will be hanging by a thread.

And good people will rise up and save it at the last moment.

That is

this time.

Now, you don't have to believe what my faith or anything.

You don't have to believe any of that.

But you do have to recognize the Constitution is almost gone.

This election, you cannot sit it out.

I promise you, you will regret you sitting this election out for the rest of your life.

Your children will ask you, why didn't you vote?

on this election.

This is unlike any other election ever, except maybe during the Civil War.

This is a critical election.

You want to save the Constitution and freedom.

You must engage and go vote.

And I'll show you why we have to have everybody off the bench.

All the people who are like, you know, I don't pay attention.

And the people who say this, they don't listen to me.

Ah, you know, I just, it's all hogwash.

It's all whatever.

You cannot sit this out.

And here's why.

If you believe like we do,

that Kamala Harris will take us in a direction that will be the end of the America that we know of, that we've grown up in, and Donald Trump and along with people like Robert Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and this team will come in and restore it for Democrats and Republicans,

we need everybody on the field.

Let's have Stu give his

look now at the

numbers.

Yeah, and we shouldn't super pessimistic.

No, no, no.

And I know if we all show up, we can win.

Absolutely.

But they will, I believe they will cheat, so we can't have a tie going in.

So a little bit about what this project is.

It's a project of the Glenn Beck program.

We're calling it the Pulse Cast.

And basically, the idea of it is to kind of put your finger on the pulse of all these different metrics.

If you notice, you watch polling averages, you get different numbers from like a Real Clear Politics and the New York Times, and there's a bunch of different stuff.

There's always a different poll that comes out, and you can always find a poll that you really love for your candidate or

your opponent really loves for their candidate.

So how do you get the overall picture?

You know, there are election modelers who are building all this stuff up all the time, you know, and the Nate Silvers and the 538s and all these different groups.

So how do you look at all of these and know what it boils down to?

What is the consensus of all these people?

So to let you know, this is not a prediction we're making.

This is not the Glenn Beck prediction of the election.

It's not the Super Gear prediction.

It's not the Blaze prediction of the election.

It is just looking at what everybody who is in this industry, pollsters,

election modelers,

polling average creators from media sources, prediction markets, looking at all of these different metrics and boiling it all down and a number that we can update every day to kind of give you a state of the race.

Where are we at any given time?

And I think, you know, it's important because there is a major, major divergence from some of these sources.

The reason that divergence exists is every one of them are making individual decisions.

Pollsters are including figuring out how to weight

each individual demographic group.

Polling averages creators are saying, okay, we're not going to include this one.

We're going to include this one.

We're going to wait this one more.

They're all making these decisions.

And election modelers are really doing it where they're taking all this with fundamentals and polling history and all this stuff.

So we take all of that out and give you one consensus number.

And we've been running this behind the scenes for about six weeks since Harris got into the race.

And it started out with, you know, Trump was ahead at the very beginning.

Harris had her little boomlet there where she

had the sort of sugar high of the announcement.

That all came back to about equal

right about the time of the day before the first debate.

And since the first debate, the polls have gone the wrong way for Donald Trump.

So this is crazy.

I think we have the numbers ready here.

Yeah.

So today, the chances were Donald Trump to win 44.3%,

Kamala Harris at 55.7%.

Hell up.

Now, you can see the divergence, especially over the past week or so.

This does not mean that Donald Trump is in a terrible position.

I mean, if it's 55, 45, it's barely a flip of a coin.

So he is, you know,

it's very, very close.

It's too close.

I mean, if

these numbers were reversed, I'd still feel

as uncomfortable.

Yes, and you should be sure.

Because

this is too close.

It's just too close.

It's too close.

And I will say this over the next few days, because there have been some tough polling for Trump today from a couple of highly rated polls.

Included in this?

Not included in this yet.

So I would expect these numbers to get a little bit worse over the next few days.

But that doesn't mean that Trump is going to lose or you should get pessimistic.

This should just be a wake-up call.

Get your ass in gear.

If you're thinking to yourself, I don't know if I'm going to get involved.

Maybe I think Trump's got it.

Everyone around me's got Trump signs.

Not really the picture of the the country.

And I think a lot of times when we get sucked up into our own little social media bubbles, we see lots of people saying positive things about our candidates.

We don't necessarily look at the whole picture.

This doesn't mean these are right.

Polsters are wrong.

Predictor, you know, forecasters are wrong all the time.

It's just giving you an idea of the state of the race and where it's moving.

And if you're on the fence as to whether you think you should get involved, it's probably a good day to jump in.

Can you give me the most optimistic with credibility?

Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.

By far the the most optimistic guy on Trump right now is Nate Silver and he's the best known he's has very crazy has a very good record but he's overwhelmingly more pop more positive on Trump's chances right now what do you think he knows

You know, I think I look at some of these people that I've seen from the past modeling these elections, and I think they are a little,

they have continually been a little bit negative on Trump and Republicans in prior elections.

I think

Nate's record is pretty good compared to some of these others.

So that's a positive.

You know, a lot of this was built in for a while there was built in because he has in his model

an election bounce.

They all have this, but they all calculate it differently.

And he has in his model a bounce for conventions and things like that that helped, even though Harris was a little bit ahead, his model was telling him she should be more ahead if that went well, right?

Like that, That's the type of judgment they're making.

And it's all based on prior history.

He's been more aggressive to say that Trump's, you know, when you look at the fundamentals of this election, and this is what should make you positive

if you're rooting for Donald Trump, the fundamentals of this election completely favor Donald Trump.

This is a failed administration.

The economy is bad.

All these things that normally indicate victory point toward Trump.

That's really positive, but you still got to face you got to face that battle.

And if Kamala Harris comes off as this new candidate with no responsibility for the past three and a half years, it's going to be tough for Trump, right?

I mean, as we all know,

we talk about Trump derangement syndrome when we're blaming it

on the media for some bad clip.

It's true, but it also is, it's very, it's at pandemic levels.

There is half the country that really can't stand this guy, and it's irrational no matter what he does.

Which side's more passionate?

The latest polls actually have this reversed as to what it's been since the beginning.

The latest polls show that Harris has actually taken the lead when it comes to enthusiasm.

I don't believe it.

It's hard for me to believe as well.

And that's why I look at this stuff and I don't take it as gospel.

It is, there are margins of error built in.

There's all these things.

And just people get so frustrated.

And that's why I'm giving you all these disclaimers.

I know the people in this audience are smart enough to understand what I'm talking about here.

But the latest polls have it that basically

it comes from they were so depressed about Biden and how that was going.

Many of them weren't going to vote.

Many of them weren't going to sit home.

This is one of the reasons why Trump was dominating.

Harris, they now feel they have a chance.

They have a chance they think they can win.

They have something new.

They think maybe Donald Trump isn't going to be the next president of the United States.

So they are very enthusiastic at stopping him.

And now, because they believe they have a chance, they're going to be there at the polls.

You cannot, unlike when it was Biden, you cannot depend on them to stay home.

This is a different race than Biden.

This is going to be hard, and we're going to need everything that we have.

So this is, we give you these updates every day

and tell you with the latest polls, do not

despair.

Do not

write off and say, well, they're going to cheat anyway.

So what difference does it make?

No.

If we can somehow or another get all of our friends to vote, just our churches, if just our church would go out

and

actually take a stand as individuals, I'm not asking churches to take the stand.

I'm asking congregations.

You as a congregant, go make sure that everybody that sits in the pew and sits in the pews around you actually goes out and votes

and votes for principles, not for parties, not for personalities, but principles, the time-tested principles that we used to all hold self-evident, because that's what's on the election.

That's what this is all about.

It's not about Donald Trump.

It's not about Kamala Harris.

It is about do you believe in the Declaration

of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights?

That's why RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and Alan Dershowitz have said, I cannot vote for Kamala Harris.

I cannot vote for the Democrats anymore.

Because I know this is not about Donald Trump.

This is about the Constitution.

Wake your friends up because every, every person has to vote.

Or honestly,

you will regret it for the rest of your life.

And I fear that some of us will regret what we're doing for all of eternity.

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Let me go to Randy in Oklahoma.

He is a vet.

Hello, Randy.

Hello.

Thank you for taking my call.

You bet.

So I wanted to just go back on the VA healthcare conversation we were all having earlier.

And

I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but I do know when President Trump was in, if we could not get an appointment with the VA within 30 days, we were allowed to go to an outside clinic

and get care.

Please tell me that hasn't changed.

Well, I've been waiting five months to get an appointment for pain management, and I'm not being referred out for care outside of the VA clinic.

So I don't know if their policy changed, but I know the VA is not

giving us that option any longer.

So I just want to make America aware that they say they care about veterans.

We don't see it.

Thank you, Randy.

You know, it is amazing to me that

there's not more outrage that the person running for President of the United States, the person that

is really the only one that is semi-coherent in the Oval Office now

and wants to be the commander-in-chief, said during the debate, we have no one in a conflict zone, no one in

a war zone.

No one.

There's tonight, there are no.

Have you seen the videos of the soldiers who are, you know, bombs going off just right around them?

And they're like, who the hell am I then?

And

you want to be the commander in chief and you don't have that fact down?

down?

And you wonder why our vets think you don't care.

Well, I don't know.

You're giving everything to illegals.

You're giving nothing to them.

And you won't recognize the people that died at the Abbey gate.

No matter what they do, you just won't even recognize that.

You won't recognize what a disaster it was to get out of Afghanistan the way you did.

And now you're putting people up in hotels.

Our veterans are on the streets.

I just don't know why this election is close.

I really don't.

I really don't.

Other than

we're experiencing a time of cults.

You know, tomorrow I'm probably going to get into this.

I did some research over the last few days on cults.

What defines a cult?

How do you know it's a cult?

What do cults do to keep you in a cult?

Oh my gosh, you will not

believe

the similarities between cults and what we're experiencing in America right now.

And the most important thing, I didn't do that research so I could say, look, it's a cult.

I did it so you could learn how to talk to people

because they immediately get very, very hostile if you talk to them.

But that's what cult members do.

We'll talk about that on tomorrow's program.

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