The Untold Story of Alex Jones | Ep 227 | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Welcome, Alex.

How are you?

It's great to be here.

Yeah, thank you.

You are a hard guy to

find anybody neutral about you.

There's nobody neutral.

You know, I was talking to my producers and they said every source we find either loves him or absolutely hates him.

Who are you?

People think you're a villain or a hero.

Talk to me about both of those labels.

Who are you?

Have I had to quantify more like a Tasmanian devil?

I mean, not really a bad guy, but not, but we kind of get out of control a while, especially when I was younger.

I mean, I'm 50 now, and I've always tried to tell the truth, always tried to be accurate, but I look back on being on air 30 years, completely self-taught since I was 20 on Access TV, got a local radio show, and got self-syndicated on some markets, and started making documentary films.

So I'm completely self-taught.

And so I've kind of gotten educated over the 30 years.

And I mean, I was always in like reading books written by the globalists and studying history.

And that was always fascinating.

So most information was accurate, but there wasn't as much perspective of time and interviewing thousands of people and all the experiences and then making the mistakes I've made.

But I never liked the corporate dinosaur media

tried to deceive people.

In fact, it was the opposite.

There wasn't like some big formula to it.

And when I got...

Sued by the law affair deep state, which they now admits, the Democratic Party and the FBI, the Justice Department, that's even come out in court and in undercover videos.

They kept saying, who's your boss?

Who's telling you to say this?

Who's doing it?

And it was all me.

So

you are on this

recent,

I mean, you were completely pushed out of the media.

And

it was kiss of death to even say your name.

And now you're kind of having this resurgence.

What is the difference between you then and you now?

That's a big question.

Short answer, long, medium answer.

Well, whatever.

We have all the time in the world.

I've only started to do

kind of introspective things on myself the last five years or so.

And

I

didn't realize how big my show was even 25 years ago or 20 years ago or 15 years ago.

And I would also joke around and be sarcastic and have a lot of satire.

And then they would mix that in with something I said an hour later, very serious.

And

I guess attacks in a way made me bigger, a lot bigger, but I really wasn't even thinking about that.

I was kind of seen in my pants.

And then now being 50 and having

21-year-old son, 20-year-old daughter, 16-year-old daughter, 17-year-old daughter, and just having a divorce and going through all that and just experiencing things.

And then getting older and having a lot of your friends and family die.

It's just, it's just, I've become more retrospective and more, you know,

I don't want to say nostalgic.

The world's gotten a lot darker.

So much of what I said was going to happen, because it was in the actual Globalist white papers at the crystal ball, came true.

And so people started taking what I was saying a lot more seriously and then kind kind of cherry-picking the mistakes or things out of context.

And so I realized I have a much larger responsibility.

It's cheesy, but it's true.

With great power comes great responsibility like Spider-Man.

And I'll be honest about it because I want to be a good example for people.

I was not a big drinker in high school or college.

I'd go to a party, drink a few beers while my buddies were throwing up, you know, and things like that.

But getting into talk radio 29 years ago and then being around the sales guys, the older guys, still that old radio generation was there.

Which was a bad generation.

I was in that generation.

That was a bad generation.

Bad generation.

And so I was going out with the bosses and they were drinking scotch and smoking cigars and I liked them.

That's what you did.

And I was making more money as a salesman than even my first radio job.

And

I ended up being like one of the top salesmen there at that station or the top salesman at one point.

And I just slowly got into alcohol.

And then it got to where, you know, I drink at night.

And then it got to where.

I started, you know, maybe by the end of the show drinking some.

And then, oh, kind of the middle of the show.

And then I'd say right when Trump started running is when I would say I became an alcoholic.

I mean, I really fell into it to where I needed it to have energy.

So I was drinking when I got into the office or right when I went on air.

I'd have the first drink of like vodka and soda most days.

And

it never got to morning drinking or anything.

So were you

buzzed or were you drunk while you were on the air?

Well, we were talking before we went.

on air here or taped air that

you were saying, yeah, you know, in your days,

you told the crew, you we'd have a lot better show if I was drunk.

I mean, I think that's true some of the time because it's vino veritas, it relaxes you.

And I've known a lot of musicians and people that don't drink in their regular life, but when they go out on stage, they drink a half bottle of wine.

Maybe in a break, they'll drink another and then come back out and play five more songs.

I mean, there is something to it.

It's a poison, but it was a poison where starting about nine years ago is when I really started drinking a lot more.

And then by the time Trump got elected,

I went from being buzzed on air to at least one day a week being drunk.

And I can trace back any problems or issues I've had to when I was drunk.

I've been honest with the listeners.

And so it was the opposite of some big corporate planned out thing.

It was doing a bunch of research, constantly in the news, really caring.

But then,

especially the nighttime shows, sometimes I would go on air with like a live podcast format.

And

I'm going to go ahead and go live at nine.

I'd be on there at two in the morning and we'd have millions and millions and millions of listeners at that, you know, rule-to-ing right then.

And they were drinking too, probably.

And it was, it was crazy.

So, and then about,

I guess, five, six years ago, I started slowly cutting down, and then I've just completely quit drinking.

And

so, it feels great.

And I would, and I was, and the demon's gone.

I have absolutely no desire.

I can go out to people and they're drinking.

I can go to a party.

I can go to events.

And I just want zero.

And then I've found more discipline.

Then I'm not in great shape because I kind of almost wrecked my health doing it.

Yeah.

But

I've gotten to where I'm starting to do intermittent fasting.

It's really good.

And I've been exercising more.

And just been a little bit more.

So are you, did you go to AA?

Do you say you were an alcoholic and you're now an alcoholic in recovery?

Or you?

I have gone to AA meetings.

But I mean, I'm trying to label, I'm trying to see how you label this.

You had a problem with drinking and now you choose not to drink or you're an alcoholic and so you've sworn it off.

You know, I mean, I think AA is really helpful and done a great job.

I wouldn't say I'm like an AA guy.

You know, the sister says I'm an alcoholic in the meetings.

I've never done that, but I've been to them.

I've gone with some family.

I've taken friends to it.

I've probably been to AA probably 50 times.

But, you know, to me, the other times, like pulling away from the last five, six years, and then, and then, and then that's really the big change.

And then down to not very much and then none for quite a while.

I mean, I guess the people at A say they're always wanting it.

It's always an issue.

To me, I mean, I think it was alcoholic level stuff.

These are all just terms.

Yeah, yeah.

So to me,

it's like being demon-possessed.

It's no longer there.

And then you look back on it and you go, how the hell was I doing that?

So I think that's

really what it is.

I mean, when I was younger, I didn't get in road rage and stuff, but if somebody cut me off or yelled at me, I'd flip them off back.

I mean, for 25 years or so, I don't flip somebody off.

I actually feel sorry for them and wave at them.

And even though I'm not in the wrong, I say I'm sorry.

That was like another thing where I'd get mad and traffic.

And it's just some one day it went away.

And

so,

but, but

T-bones T-bones and

ribeyes and cheese potatoes and stuff, and I've got a real procedure.

That still got me.

Yeah.

Texas is a hard place to live in if you care about your health because the food is unbelievable.

There's lots of it, and most of it's fried.

Absolutely.

Chicken fried steaks.

You're getting that.

Yeah.

It's like Meryl Monroe and a prime chicken fried steak.

I might go chicken fried steak.

So who were you as a kid?

You said earlier that you had always read about conspiracy stuff.

Who were you as a kid?

What were your interests as a kid?

I didn't realize growing up here in Texas, and both sides of my family founding Texas families.

I mean, like really in the whole thing, creating it, Washington, the Brazos, my ancestors, and then I raised Colonel Travis's son on my mom's side and a bunch of other stuff.

And then my dad's side, we still have land here.

They got Mexican land grants, still have copies of it laminated from the Mexican government.

12, 13 cents an acre.

We still have some of that land in East Texas.

So I didn't realize that I got the Americana upbringing.

You know, teaching me about guns at four, putting Folger's cans out there and shooting them with a 4-10 shotgun, teaching the power.

And then by the time I was six, good shot with 22.

And

a lot of my family, and I didn't realize that, but that was interesting,

were in clandestine stuff and Army Special Operations and things like that.

So growing up on both sides of the family,

my mom's brother was big in Iran-Contra and all that kind of stuff.

So I grew up.

How do you mean big into it?

Big in exposing it?

No, no, in it.

In it.

Doing it.

You know, yeah.

Wow.

yeah what part what uh

with army special operations the cia and stuff i mean he was he was a boss i mean he was building airfields communication systems down there but and he did a bunch he was a big uh hero in vietnam and stuff like that helicopter pilot uh but he told me before he died he did a lot of stuff he was told to do in vietnam and there that's why i was promoted to those places but he said it got to a point that he couldn't do it anymore he told me when he died 11 years ago right when he was dying he said uh All this stuff you're covering is real.

He goes, you know, I got out of this in the late 80s when we found out they were using the airfields to fly kids out of Guatemala, orphanages, we don't know where.

And then he and a bunch of guys got out then.

And he said Reagan didn't know, but it was Herbert Walker above him.

And now you hear all about Guatemala and trafficking.

This is a lot bigger now.

I mean, exponentially, but it's been going on a while.

And so that, my mom's dad was involved in a lot of inventions and things behind the scenes, more in the DARPA, ARPA type stuff.

And we never learned what that was.

So I grew up around hearing him talk about just politics in general.

And my dad had been really informed, been involved in just all sorts of interesting science things.

And a lot of his family were involved in clandestine stuff.

And so,

and I'm in the muscle end of it too.

So I just grew up.

What does that mean?

You know, wet work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Stuff like that.

Wow.

Yeah.

So I, I mean, I grew up around that.

And I didn't realize that.

I was like growing up and, you know, around this, but they were all anti-globalists, anti-new world order, knew all about it and were saying the government's being taken over and it's bad.

And I'd be like

15 and Limbaugh was just coming on really hot to the syndicate.

I'm like, Limbaugh's great.

And they're like, that's bull.

The Republicans are controlled too.

CFR, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You know, that's all controlled paradigm.

Now it's not.

And I don't think Limbaugh was controlled.

The point was, he wasn't to the level of their knowledge and saying all that.

So they were just like, hey, kid, that's not what's going on.

And read this book.

And so if you want, I mean, my mother has, you know, a degree in history.

And so the house was full of history books.

And I liked, I I loved comic books.

I loved,

you know, the pulp fiction written here in Texas,

Code of the Barbarian.

I was reading, I was a really good reader.

So I was reading teenage stuff when I was like eight, nine, 10.

And then college stuff at the time I was a teenager.

And so I was just as much as I could read of that.

And then about eight or nine, I started wanting to read the history books around.

And my parents wouldn't buy me a lot of junk.

I had to, you know.

get a job for a bicycle work because I want to be hard working.

But if I wanted encyclopedias off TV, and back then there were TV ads constantly, so they got me the Wild Wall West encyclopedia set and World War I encyclopedia set and World War II encyclopedia set.

And if I just saw the ads and wanted, my dad had a lot, he loved encyclopedias.

The house was just full of books and so was his office and everywhere else.

And then they would say, fine, I'd write the number down.

My mom or dad would call.

And then, and so like, you know, usually once a month, you'd get a new encyclopedia.

We had encyclopedias every few days, different types coming.

And they were pictured encyclopedias, quote, for adults and kids, but they were tailored to everybody but I would read all those encyclopedias by the time I was 10 or 11 and then I started reading rise and fall the third reich by Schur, Heinz Hobel's Order of the Death Said I thought that was really fascinating that I wanted to know about Russian history and then I read Julius Caesar's Battle for Gaul.

I read

some of the other

compilations of things they'd written in books, Marcus Aurelius, things like that.

I started reading Socrates, Plato, all that stuff.

And then I hit puberty.

And I played sports and stuff too.

I wasn't a bookworm.

I was just swimming and soccer and football.

And then I just went girl crazy and started Dallas.

I grew up in Rockwall, but even there it was more, that was kind of the old school, a lot of fist fights, a lot of that stuff.

I got into that.

Yeah, you were, I mean, you were

a tough guy in a tough school.

I mean, it was a pretty nice school, but it was still politically correct in, if you want to get point blank about it.

I mean,

it was clicks.

And so if you weren't in the certain redneck club, and there was other redneck clubs, then they they would start fights with you, the seniors when you were freshmen, or kids that had flunked three times when you were in seventh or eighth grade.

And, you know, I had a lot of black friends.

They were great.

But there was also, you know, some of the black kids would beat up the smaller white kids.

And so

by sixth grade, there'd be people that had flunked a few grades trying to beat me up.

And I came home with black guys.

And my dad said, we got to fight harder.

One time

a bunch of guys jumped me when I was and broke my leg.

And my dad didn't file charges or anything.

He says, you know, just you'll kick their ass later.

My dad wasn't like Mr.

Tough Guy, but that was how he was.

And

that was old school.

I saw the new Reagan movie in this baseline story where the kids come to beat him up.

The mom goes, go out and fight him and close the door.

That's how it was.

That's right.

And so, but then I got attention for that and thought it was great by like the seventh grade so that I just started just, you know, I mean, it was, I mean, if I told all the stories, it would sound like I was making it up.

I mean, I put a bunch of people in the hospital, put people in comas, and they dug around the Democrats, went and found stories about it, then twisted what actually happened.

But then I, then they took me out of high school school when I was 16, sent me to the ranch for a year,

and I worked for a large animal vet in East Texas.

What's the ranch?

It doesn't really have a name.

It's just Jones.

I mean, it's been there forever.

Your ranch.

Yeah, home place.

I mean, it used to be really big.

Now it's mainly woods.

Over time, they've sold it and sold it down to a few thousand acres of woods.

There's some pastures and stuff.

But

I say I went to the ranch.

They got me a job with a large animal vet.

I did that for a year.

And then my dad sold his dental offices here in Dallas.

And we moved to Austin.

I finished two years of high school.

So I was in high school five years, got straight A's then, and became a prep and just wanted to get out.

But Austin was more liberal, the good side of liberal.

So no fighting, nothing ever happened.

I think there was one fight in two years there.

I just kept my mouth shut and hung out with college kids, and I was done.

And so I've never been in any trouble since then.

But I got arrested quite a bit.

I put in solitary confinement.

They always dropped it because I never started the fights.

But when they, you know, police pull up and there's a big, you know, big, big guy, you know, with blood coming out of his ears and having convulsions on the ground, they they take you to jail.

Yeah.

And one time I didn't get a hearing for about a week and a half.

So I was in,

they would take you from Rockwall out to the temple.

Back then was the big juvenile.

And we'd take a week and a half of juvenile.

Yeah.

Was I never wanted to go back to jail after that.

And I was like, hey, just send me away.

I want to, because by then everybody wanted to fight me.

I mean, I'd be, you know, I'd be in a McDonald's with a girlfriend and there'd be some big guy come in and go, you put my little brother.

I'm going to kill your ass.

Some huge guy.

And it would be, it would be on and then

and then I was in the McDonald's parking lot fighting this guy and he was and he was like a convict and he was kicking my ass even though I could fight really good and some other guy

jumps out and attacks him it was it was different culture that's kind of faded away but people that knew Texas 35 years ago will tell you that's how it was very rough if you looked at somebody wrong in Dallas or anywhere around it in the late 80s early 90s you were gonna be in a fight so it was kind of like the old westerners where they go you look at me wrong at the bar actually based on real stuff yeah so this is what I'm trying to act tough.

I've never even told these stories really.

So you're, this is high school?

Yeah, I was a, I was a Hellion from about 12 to 16.

So bookworm to Hellion.

Yes.

Well, the testosterone kicked up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then

you graduate from high school.

Yep.

What happened?

I went a couple years to a community college.

I had decent grades.

I could go to college, but I went and checked out the RTF thing.

I kind of wanted to do that.

And I went and checked it out, and it it was just way behind because I was already reading books about it.

And I was, I was, I was like, computers are going to be the thing, but we're not, it was like whole courses for a couple of years on the history of radio and Marconi and the Mercury Theater and all that tender sting.

But, and then all their theories were like 10-year-old stuff.

So I would put in resumes.

They laughed at me.

They even played some of my tapes on local radio and said, this guy wants a job.

I'll never get one.

Or I did like fake ads and also broadcast.

So I went, hey, Access TV.

So when I was 20, I went and did Access TV, instantly got popular.

And then I got a call from a guy.

What were you doing?

I mean, I was talking about the New World Order.

Same stuff.

When people find 30-year-old tapes, they go, damn, this all happened.

I mean, now those videos from 25, 26, 27, even they found 30-year-old tapes.

And it's me in a control room.

I didn't have a cruise.

I'm in the control room at Access TV.

And the clock types down.

It's like a soapbox.

You're on air.

I'm holding up magazines and talking.

Even those have been found.

And then a guy named his handle was Shark Man.

He'd been national on Z-Rock back when I was there, but it imploded down to one station in Austin, 98.9.

and they were shifting from that to talk, George and Liddy, Rush Limbaugh, all that.

And he said, hey, you want a Saturday show?

I'll give you one.

I won't pay you.

Just come in.

And they'd already been on air a few weeks, and nobody was calling their local shows that came on after, you know, those, those are those,

Stern and Liddy and all them.

And instantly, all 10 phone lines line up.

And he goes, fine.

And then I said, can I make money being a salesman?

And then they put me on weeknights about a year.

And then I found out about satellites and talked to a group in Michigan that could put me up.

And then I put it up.

Then I called the stations myself, got on more than 50 stations by the time I was like 23.

Wow.

And then it kind of just, that's what happened.

So it was, it was all just trying to, it was all very exciting.

And then I said, instead of having a newsletter or a coffee mug, you know, to get the word out and make money and expand what I'm doing because I want my own little studios, I said, I'll just make documentary films.

And so computers were just getting affordable then, but it would take hours to edit one minute.

So I was in there shooting on a DV cam.

This is like 26 years ago, 27 years ago, but then you'd have to still dump it down to three-quarter inch tape.

And I'm at the Access Studio editing it.

So, and then those exploded

and brought in a lot of revenue.

So I had a little office, hired a few crew, and that's basically what happened by about 1998.

I had an office and crew and was doing my own thing and built a little studio.

And I'll say, one at my house.

How did you, where did you get your entrepreneurial

spirit and

expertise to be able to put all this together?

I mean, I had jobs from the time I was about 10.

I remember I was asking for a new bike and my dad dad said, You need a job.

And I was pretty smart.

I go, well, there's child labor laws.

He started laughing so hard.

He goes, watch this.

And there was a big marina there in Rockwall by the golf course.

And he went and talked to one of the old vets.

My dad had a couple of boats there.

Said, will you get my son working here?

Pay him whatever you want.

He goes, sure.

And because I would do work about a year into the job, they were paying me a lot more.

And I was power washing boats and stuff.

And I, and so I, and then I, and then he got me a job after school.

Um,

then the school bus would drop me off at like 3:30 at a local veterinary that did small animals by the time I was about 11.

And so I was cleaning out cages and then pretty soon, you know, helping, you know, sedate the dachshund before it gets neutered or spayed.

So I kind of had the veterinarian thing there.

And then I and I worked in fast food jobs and all that kind of stuff.

And I and I had a lot of entrepreneurs in my family's history.

And so I just knew that I was like, well, I'm not going to go to college, you know, which most people know now.

I'm not saying it's all bad, but for most jobs, it's kind of a waste.

For this job, it absolutely is.

Absolutely.

So I just basically.

As long as you're an intelligent person and you don't mind reading an awful lot.

Exactly.

So I was just a long-term figure it out as you go.

And

then I stuck in Bohemian Grove in 2000.

Now, hang on just a second.

Before that, you ran for the House of Representatives in Texas, did you not?

Only for a week.

Only for a week.

Yeah, one of my friends said, hey, it'll be great.

You can get up on the soapbox of these debates.

And he wanted to be the campaign manager.

and as soon as i talked to a lawyer and saw the campaign laws and then i was not able to do my show all the time and i was or i was literally having to go to like coffees with the politicos and have them hand me sheets about my policies and i knew most of the stuff and i was trying to research it and i thought this is this is the bottom floor yeah i said i i said no way i i don't want to

I said, I want to affect things in the media.

I don't want to

try to run for office when I'm 25 years old.

Right.

So then, so then you went to the Bohemian Grove.

Take me from...

Well, I mean, I was kind of jumping ahead because, I mean, I've already, people never ask me these questions.

I never really tell these.

I know.

I honestly don't know how it all started with you.

So I think this is fascinating.

Okay, well,

like 98, I had the number one show in the time slot at night.

It won the local Reader's Poll a couple times.

Yeah.

And then it started getting picked up nationally.

Jay Leno.

talked about my show and played some clip and it got picked up in the national news and I started getting on like hard copy and extra would come news stories without me even asking and I started getting called and put on flown out to Hollywood every few weeks to be on conspiracy you know panel shows and stuff

and

the the management got political pressure on them that owned the the chain of stations they were like in scranton oh it was shamrock communications and they literally flew the general manager down there and he said listen you're a good talk show host but you're going to do uh you're going to do like relationships and sports and stuff

and i said to him i said listen,

I already have a little office and I'm selling films and I've already got a studio.

I was already doing a two-hour show during the day and then going up there and driving across town to do a show at night.

And they laughed.

He goes, you're not on radio stations and all this stuff.

Because I was like 25 years old by then.

And I was like, well, yeah, I am.

He goes, no, you're not, kid.

Don't sit there and lie to me.

And I was like, wow, he doesn't know.

I hooked a nice ISD inline up here and had permission and I'm syndicating this show.

And they did not even know that it had already, the show had already gotten a lot of attention.

And I wasn't rude to them.

I didn't lie, but I said, okay.

I just figured, well, these guys don't know what they're talking about.

They're going to go back to Ohio.

And then they called up two months later and the general manager called me out of the local.

He says, you got to stop or they're going to fire you.

And I said, I can't stop.

Go ahead and fire me.

He goes, well, I'm not firing you.

I'm going to run the YMCA here in Austin.

It's a great guy named Mark Easter.

He said,

I'm leaving.

He goes, because he was all about freedom of speech.

And a few months later, they fired me.

And I was like, this is the best thing ever.

It was all over the national news.

And it was because they thought the left's like, we got this guy.

And I wasn't even really super right-wing or libertarian, but I didn't like the Clintons and stuff.

I was talking about them a lot on there and actually getting some and having some big guests on.

And so, boom, all of a sudden, I got a whole bunch more radio stations out of that.

Suddenly, because I'd sent flyers out and call them and they were, and I'd done ads in,

what was that, Radio Flyer, whatever it was where you were.

R ⁇ R.

Yeah, you could put ads like, I'm a guest.

Well, I did that as a talk show host and said, also pick up my show.

And so I was doing more, I was doing four or five interviews a day, or sometimes 20 if I wanted them.

And I was going on a lot of the late night shows and things.

So

boom, as soon as I got fired, then all of a sudden some big stations picked me up.

So did you see yourself more as an art bell or a serious kind of journalist?

I didn't cover the UFO thing very much because I couldn't prove it.

Yeah.

And so I didn't really think of myself as a journalist.

I thought,

here's a UN report because I'd I'd go to the library all the time.

Back then, you couldn't get them online.

Bad to the UT

library.

And the librarians loved it because I wanted stuff that was in the stacks.

I'd say, I hear this is here.

They'd go back and they said, come back in a week.

They'd give me all this stuff because they love that.

And I would be on radio.

That's why I started doing a website to make a documentary so I could actually show people.

You know, like, oh, you don't believe there's UN signs at the parks.

You don't believe there's a treaty signing it over as collateral, which they now admit.

And a lot of countries sign their national parks over to Pfizer as collateral if the vaccine hurts people.

I mean, Brazil was in a fight over that.

I mean, and I was just exposing all this wild stuff.

And to me, I was reading books written by Henry Kissinger,

going and getting them and reading it on air, like you do, but with a chalkboard and, you know, with all the graphics.

And so I didn't even see it as like,

I've got credentials.

I'm like.

No, you're just somebody discovering it.

Exactly.

It's like you wake up at 2 a.m.

to

the dogs barking and the neighbor's house is on fire.

You're not a firefighter.

You're not an arson specialist.

you call 911 and you go knock on your door to make sure your neighbors are okay there's a there's fire shooting out i didn't like so i was more of an alarmist i mean i would say kind of a paul revere type and i don't know exactly what's going on here

but look at this and i then i would go down when they were trying to pass a law to ban semi-autos at the legislature and i'd have a little video camera uh

and i'd have one crew member with me and We would literally, we caught this on tape.

The NRA picked it up.

It was huge in the late 90s, stuff like this is an example.

And there's literally the gun control advocate going 100, 200, 300, 400 to the guys that had just testified.

I've just been in there.

He was a white guy.

They were young black guys who were paid, we later learned, weren't thugs, like they said, weren't criminals, to get up and say, I'm a criminal, you know, banned the guns because I'm dangerous.

They were exploiting these black guys.

It hits the news everywhere.

And then they go, Jones is racist, making black people look bad.

So I started learning about, you know, how that worked.

And so really,

it was basically everything.

I mean, I would go out and protest the KKK

because I knew that they were just trying to create division.

I'd also had articles that a lot of leftist foundations were involved in the past funding them.

And so that would blow up.

And so

it was like an alarmist, someone trying to warn people, but a little bit of stunts like Howard Stern.

Yeah.

Because I love to get the attention for the show.

Right.

And so I wasn't even trying to define.

Again, I wasn't sitting around thinking.

I'd see something in the local news or read something in the paper or see something online.

Or I was getting email tips by then by the late 90s.

And I would just say, I'm going to go do this.

And people say, oh, they have this big statue and do this ritual at Bohemian Grove.

And I'm like, I don't believe that.

And, well, so people, listeners sent me old magazine articles and stuff where CBS reporter arrested and all that.

And so I, that's a whole nother interesting story.

John Ronston, right?

Yes.

He went with you.

Yes.

As I was talking to him probably 2004 or 2005

about a book that he had written.

Them.

Yeah.

And he said,

you know, I don't know what your relationship is with him, but he said, you know, there's a lot of stuff I don't agree with Alex Jones, but I went with him.

He said, I saw it.

Yeah.

And he said, I thought Alex was crazy.

He said, but I saw it.

What did you see?

And how did you get in?

Okay, it's a 2,700-acre redwood grove in the the most beautiful place in America, Sonoma County.

It's about

15 miles west of Santa Rosa, and it's on the Russian River, and it's just, it's a huge uncut redwood grove, just as big as the ones you see in the national parks.

Wow.

So it's a gorge with redwood trees at one entrance.

And the other

exit isn't an entrance or exit.

It's just a cliffside over the Russian River.

And they've got over 100 camps in it.

Some are big and nice, depending on how elite you are.

They They have like the chalet where world leaders and royalty go up on the hill.

But they're all basically log cabins and open bars.

And really, it's a big art thing.

At the time, I went with the sensational stuff of the occultic stuff in the ritual that they do on

the middle of July every year on, I guess it's called Midsummer's Eve or whatever.

And that's what blew up with the evangelical Christians and stuff, and I am a Christian.

And definitely it's occultic, and there's vibes of that everywhere.

But really, Mark Twain founded it in the 1880s, 1870s.

And then President Taft started going there by railroad.

And then the Republican establishment took it over.

And so there was kind of a Germanic, druidic

spin-off of Skull and Bones that kind of took it over through the Republicans and Skull and Bones members.

And so it kind of has that seal on it of the Skull and Bones, Germanic mystery school, hyper-Masonic, super-secret, inner-Masonic stuff.

But really, it's 1,000 members and 1,000 guests.

And when I was there, I mean, I saw Danny Glover from a distance.

I saw Clint Eastwood, and I didn't run up because there's security everywhere.

And I only snuck in,

I snuck in during the day, went around the security in the woods.

They beef it up a lot now.

But people get in easily.

Not now.

It's really beefed up, but they always catch you because people walk reporters.

There's been hundreds of articles.

They always walk start asking questions.

And they go, well, who are you with?

What are you doing?

I didn't do that.

I snuck in,

tried to just go, you know, sit down in one of the outside areas and not be noticed.

And

Ronson thought it was a joke, but he had an insider that was a member.

And he was, and so Ronson snuck in

after he saw me get in.

He went in with the member that had all the code words and all the stuff as a guest, but not as an official guest.

And then Ronson had me sign a contract, but later, he talked about it, so I can.

He said, we, for liability, can't shoot the footage.

And we've seen you shoot some hidden footage, a little DV can and a fanny pack.

They didn't have little tiny cameras back then, as you know, for kids out there.

And I had to climb up on the edge of a redwood, you know, knot route and kind of get above the people and shoot it.

That's why it's all canted, the cameras falling over and things.

But it's still dramatic footage.

And so I got in,

tried to keep to myself,

had sheriff's deputies in Secret Service twice while I was just sitting sitting over an overlook and

over in the woods, just at a table.

You know, I even brought a book with me, so it looked like I was just hanging out.

They're like, who are you with?

What's going on?

I'm like, and I had enough of the inside stuff that I'd read in some of the literature.

I said, I'm with the Hillbillies because that's a Texas-style camp where the bushes go.

They said, Really?

Okay, well, who are you here with?

And I said, I'm here with Ron.

Yeah.

They go, okay.

And the Secret Service came over and questioned me another time.

And I said, that's it.

I've been questioned twice.

So I came down off the,

because it takes, you know, it's, it's a couple miles down.

I came off the overlook when the Secret Service questioned me over the Russian River, and I got into the woods, got to the first camp, and nobody was there.

And I climbed up underneath the

log cabin deck, and there were like literally centipedes and spiders.

It was like Indiana Jones, Simple of Doom, but not as bad, but it was quite a few.

And I guess that's where they are.

They're under the under the house.

And so I wait until the light starts going down.

And I had my map and I'd only gotten in some and then gone trying to get it because most of the camps are up at the start and up the hill.

I'd gotten away from civilization waiting for nighttime because I was in there about four or five hours, four and a half hours.

I hang out a few hours underneath the log cabin.

And again, people say, well, why is there no footage of that?

It was little hour takes.

I'm having to start it and stop it.

So I got myself going in, walking down there, got the overlook, take stops.

I know there's cameras, which I later saw in my later bit.

So I don't reload it there.

I just act really calm.

I'm kind of hitting the button on and off.

I go down, find the first camp, climb under it, reload it, get it ready, get it set,

have like a handkerchief inside hanging over the front of the lens because there's a whole cut in the fanny pack, those little DV cams.

And

it's getting dark.

Okay, okay, I think I can blend in.

And so it's twilight.

I've got the map.

It's this side road right here.

I start walking.

People start to come out of camps.

They're walking.

And oh my gosh, there's the pond and there's the owl.

the little lake and there's bats flying around.

And it's twilight.

But people are talking to each other.

They're looking.

I see Danny Glover.

I'm walking.

There's now all these big crowds of men coming in, hundreds and hundreds.

I say, okay, I'm going to go through them and hide somewhere until it gets dark.

They're going to question me.

People are looking, hey, because they all kind of know each other.

I go up the hill and then down here are the biggest redwoods, the ones you can drive cars through.

You know, the ones they, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's all these tables, and there's still people eating, and they're playing Hall of the Mountain King.

And I look, there's a symphony playing, and it's just twilight, the light coming through, and bats and frogs chirping.

I'm like, this is a badass party.

And so I kind of walk up the hill.

There was a whole kind of gay vibe going on too.

I had some, some of the greens keepers

gather, they go, hey, baby, and like, you know, whistle at me, that went on a few times.

Back then, I was pretty good looking.

And, and, and so I go, okay, it's getting dark.

So I come back down the hill.

Now, almost everybody is flooding, is flooding out from eating their dinner.

down these big picnic tables that I was going up the hill looking down on.

They're coming out and

going down to the owl.

I go around them, wait till they're there, get up behind the crowd, but there's men standing in front of me.

So I kind of climb up on the edge of one of the roots and shoot the video.

And it was about an hour long.

So we got it on the tape because I,

so I got shots of the people.

I have shots all this, you know, down there while the music's playing.

Then I've got the shot of the ritual.

And then I'm sitting there going, okay, it's an owl.

This is more theater, but the occult is what theater comes from.

TV and everything is

anything occult, for those that don't know, is just pre-Christ or pre-Christianity.

It just means hidden because the mystery schools are hidden.

And so

they mixed in Babylonian, Druidic, Canaanite, Faustian stuff in the hour.

They bring out a hearse that's horse-drawn with the effigy of a child.

They then call on the goddess to come, and they call on these other gods to come.

So it's kind of an amalgamation, like the Bible says of all these religions.

They then put the child there on the effigy.

And then back then I later learned because I got some of their annals.

These guys would die and their widows would mail me annals.

And then once people didn't know they had annals, then they shot up in the market.

Then when people were selling them on eBay for $5,000 a piece.

What are the annals?

Every 10 years, they put a big, thick book out of the annals of Bohemian Growth.

So as I got those annals later, I'm kind of skipping ahead.

I learned, oh, that was Walter Cronkite that was doing the voice of the owl.

So

they're inside the owl and it's got slits they can look out of with a sound control.

And you've got like famous actors and people doing the voices.

So that's very interesting.

And I'm not saying they're all devil worshipers, even bad.

It's just, it's like

it's more of a crazy art festival, but there is a cultic thing to it.

I wrote a book called The Eye of Moloch.

And in it, I posited a theory, and I have no idea if it's true or not, but I posited a theory that

most of the people are going and they're just having a good time.

They have no idea.

But this is, there are some that understand

what is being done and that it is an actual ancient ritual.

But people are doing it for the most part because they think it's fun.

Would you agree with that or not?

Well, that's why you're going back.

I'm up here speeding through, trying to just give you all the intel.

You're really good at summing it all up there.

No, that's exactly what it is.

And that's the nature of the occult or secret societies or intelligence agencies is there's the inner group that knows.

That's exactly what I was going to say earlier: is they're just recruiting really cool, interesting musicians and people.

Even, you know, Kid Rock talked about being there.

And they're like, hey, kid, you're here to play music for us.

And that's exactly how it is.

So they're there getting an eye on people for two weeks.

Then they have other club times they go, but it's that two weeks, the second half of July,

to kind of examine the produce and see who they could promote, who they could use.

And absolutely, I've had a cult experts look at it.

I've read your book.

I've read other books.

And definitely, I was sitting there in the crowd thinking, you know, they're not taking this really seriously as it was starting.

I said, this is just fun because I hadn't seen the whole ritual yet and I hadn't had time to go back and look what they were actually saying.

But there were a lot of the men in the crowd when the light was on their faces, the torches right by me going,

and one time I said, that's really neat.

And

it's a very important ritual.

And you could actually barely on the tape here and be like, this is a very important ritual.

And this is some billionaire, you know, you could tell.

And I was recognizing a lot of them, but, you know, I know that guy, I know that guy, but you couldn't place them.

And some of these really rich, powerful people, and they were, and and I saw I was looking around in the light because I'm there at the back.

There's a few behind me and in front of me, and I'm looking at their faces.

And I'm like, whoa, this is like I'm at church, but this is like, I've been.

So what is the ritual that they do?

What is the meaning behind it?

It's basically

the oldest story that he was doing over and over again.

I mean, you have in the time of Abraham, God saying, go get me a ram and sacrifice it because that was food.

That was meat.

That was a big deal to give this up.

And to say, God's number one and then uh god says give me your son actually to see if you'll go all the way and the angel stops him and if you look at every culture and society that that's that that that's basically where sacrifice comes from so this is more of what they did uh in in ancient england and in europe with the sin eaters uh where

a person had died and they would put a piece of bread on their stomach and they would have someone come in that would eat it who was willing to take their sin so instead of christ taking on our sins as the ultimate sacrifice, they put the sins on the effigy of a child, and then it begs for its life and they say, no, for the next year,

our cares are gone.

All of our problems are put on this.

And then these men that are taking it serious, some people are like, hmm, interesting.

Those are the guests, the members that are serious.

And I'd say it was about a third of them just from the group I was looking at because it would light up quite a bit.

I could see their faces.

And I'm not looking through the camera.

I'm looking at them.

And they were trying to transmute their problems onto this ritual to have you reap what you sow or karma, however they see it, pass over them and be put into this effigy that they then burn.

And it was very hardcore.

So, and then again, after I saw that, I brought to some theologians, but also mainline historians, and they basically all said the same thing.

They said, this is...

going back to 4,000 years ago in Egypt and walking right through all these different Molech, all these different gods.

And then it ends with

druids in Europe and then Faust,

which Dr.

Faust is probably a fictional thing, but it's a story of can he at the end escape the devil?

And of course he really could have, but he didn't know he could.

And so they're saying, no, we do know and we are Faust and we're beating the devil.

So it was a very sophisticated, very dark

beyond black magic, because they're not,

it's an effigy, but they're not like trying to hurt somebody with this energy they've built, if you believe believe in that.

They're trying to put it of the bad things they've already done into this interdimensional cauldron, basically, and then send it to another plane.

That's how I would describe it.

What is their goal?

Are they, I mean, are these like if you look at the WEF, people say, well, that is just, you know, those are just people going up to ski and they have no real power.

We can now see the results of their work with, the Great Reset and everything else.

Those things are now implemented.

So that con of they don't have any power is over.

What are these people trying to do?

Well, I think you hit the nail on the head.

I remember the New York Times in 2012.

I'm in Chantilly, Virginia, covering Bilderberg.

This is big conference center, golf course shut down.

There's helicopters.

There's Marines.

There's Secret Service everywhere.

Guys talking in their submachine guns.

We have it all on tape.

Put films out.

And you were covering it some of the time, and Drudge was, and that was it.

And they would have articles saying we were making it up up until that point.

And they had a New York Times article that Jones was basically having a hallucination that he was in the woods in Virginia, that there was a global meeting of elites.

So back then, it didn't exist.

Then, because of you covering it, and I'm giving credit, you covered it, and so did Drudge.

All of a sudden, they went, okay, it's there, but it's no big deal.

They started then putting the list out of their agenda and the members, but not the guest.

And so that's the political arm at the top of the pyramid and you have the heads of the cfr the heads of the triattle commission the head of the eu the head of the uk i was there once the king of spain because i stayed in the building after it was supposedly shut and they threw me out and they go

here comes the king of spain walking in the front as i'm going out uh i mean just wild stuff And I got footage of David Rockefeller, you know, Henry Kissinger, helicopters landing.

Not just there, I covered it in Europe, I covered it in England, I covered it in Canada, I covered it in Istanbul,

Turkey, I covered it in Chantilly twice.

And

the heads of all the other big global management corporate systems, the trilateral commission, CFR, they're all there.

And if you look at the 100 members, it's the heads of all the major top 100 corporations, the heads of the boards.

And then you learn most of them are going to Bohemian Grove.

And then

Helmut

was Helmut Schmidt, I think before him.

I went to still West Germany, but it was Helmut Cole after him.

In fact, my producers over there, this is memory, I don't want to get this wrong.

Look up Helmut Schmidt, German chancellor.

But yeah, he wrote a book that I have a copy of that you can't even find, Men and Power is a Political Retrospective.

And in the book, he says, we have our own.

I don't get the chancellor's name wrong, but it wasn't Cole.

He goes,

We have our own groves where we do our own druidic rituals, and we love them, but Bohemian Groves are the best.

So it's a real,

it was,

Skull and Bones presidents went and made it a skull and bones hangout.

So if you wonder what skull and bones do once they leave Yale,

this is their playhouse.

And so it's really an extension of skull and bones.

And so whether, you know, whereas you see Hollywood and people, they're into different types of occult, flat-out Satanism or

mysticism or Kabbalah or stuff like that.

When you get into the Republican leadership, at least in old

skull and bones, they

go to church.

I'm not saying that they might be Christians.

I don't know.

But when they're not at their day job, they are very serious

death cult members.

I mean, that's what they call it the order of death.

And then you see the Nazis wearing the same thing.

There's something to it.

I think we're experiencing a death cult now.

I mean, I think it's Malthusian at its nicest.

It's an absolute death cult that we're dealing with now.

I mean,

the love of blood

from abortion to

gender mutilation to war, it is

remarkable how

this cult is just all about death.

They believe from their own writings and statements, people that I know are into this occult organization, but in their public statements that they are the alpha apex predator.

And that just like if you're in a city

that borders woods and you don't have any coyotes or wolves or

mountain lions anymore, the deer overpopulated, they fall apart.

They see it as they're the wolves doing us a favor, culling the sheep, and that it's their job through social Darwinism.

that, as you said, comes out of Malthus.

And Malthus just said, starve the poor, give them diseases, crowd them all together, societal collapse within 100 years.

He was wrong.

You're right.

He was nice compared to them who directly dumb you down and poison you and want to get rid of you.

And when you actually study this deeper, they believe they're doing us a favor.

But when you look at their affect and their own families and their behavior, they're really sinister, greedy, hateful people who pretend like they're filling this

niche, this need.

of the social Darwinist.

For people that don't know what that is, obviously the robber barons in the 1880s, 90s, and into the trust busting had articles written and books written about, hey, it's good that we're enslaving and cheating and forcing other companies to shut down and monopolies because that's just the way it is.

Might makes right.

And so now they've had to hide it because of the kind of classical liberalism that was against that.

They then became liberalism so they can wrap themselves in that when they truly are the death cult.

And if you had to use anything close to it, it's a high-tech, Nazi type operation wrapped in a liberal package.

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So right after the Bohemian Grove is when you really start to take off, and that is after 9-11.

That's when people really, I think, start to know your name.

Would you agree with that?

Yes.

Yeah.

And

good or ill,

you are the original truther, aren't you?

Yes.

Look, I'd seen Operation Northwoods that was declassified about two years before 9-11.

ABC News, U.S.

government planned to hijack jets, bomb buildings, mass shootings as a pretext to invade Cuba and war with the Soviet Union.

And I knew that Kennedy killed the plan and fired L.L.

Emminster and Curtis LeMay on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

And I knew that Operation Ajax should overthrow Mosedeck in 53 had been staged.

That was declassified.

Kermit Roosevelt did that.

I knew that our ships were not attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin in 64.

And literally hundreds of other examples.

It's pretty much established that in 1898, William McKinley's Navy and the sea and the Maine and have Anna Harbor to get us in the Spanish-American War,

the Armed government blew that up.

That didn't mean I don't think there's radical Islam and that it's a serious threat and that it wasn't involved in some levels.

So the media misrepresented a lot of what I said, but I was saying before they blew up the towers that I thought they were going to blow them up because the feds had,

and I interviewed Ahmad Salam, who was an Egyptian security asset and working for the FBI.

And

the Muslims were going to bomb bomb the World Trade Show the first time

in 92.

And he recorded the Fed saying,

make a real bomb and go ahead and basically let it happen.

So I interviewed him.

So I was already really on this in Oklahoma City.

And I interviewed the witnesses and the police and what really happened, the bombs they found were going to explode in the building and all the eyewitnesses.

So I was already

really dialed up on that.

So the morning it happened.

Back then, stuff wasn't archived on the web.

I was at my home studio.

I, you know, I had my other small studio.

And we had like VHS machines and DVD burners and a DV cam hooked to TV.

We could record TV that way.

But I was, I was on the air that day.

I just went on, not just my own show, but did all the other shows on a little network I was on.

From the time it happened, I mean, I ran out the shower,

said ate breakfast and took a shower and then heard it was happening, ran in, turned it on, started covering it with the TV on while it happened.

And then

we saw the buildings collapse the way they did.

We saw the reports.

And for me, I said, it looked like bombs.

I said, this could be an inside job.

And then about a mile away, there was a pizza place.

And I've been on there since until 4.30.

And I was going to come back on a few hours on my own nighttime show I did.

And I told my wife at the time, I said,

I'm going to go get a pizza.

You want me?

She says, no.

So I drive.

And I listened to CBS Radio back when they had CBS News, live coverage on 590 in Austin.

And

I pull up, get the pizza, and I'm driving back.

They go, all right, Building seven, the Solomon Brothers building could damage other buildings.

They've decided to control demolition.

They're going to bring it down.

Anybody go finds the archive, you'll find that.

And we have other news saying it.

So I'm going, okay, they're going to bring it down to the building.

That takes time.

So I'm eating the pizza in the car, listening to this.

I go, I got to get back on here.

So I run in there and I say, they're saying on CBS, they're getting ready to blow up this building.

So I start taking callers and they go, yeah, I heard that on NPR just now.

But back then, stuff didn't get archived.

So you just heard it once.

Just like they had a Lone Gunman episode that aired in March, a spin-off of X-Files, where the government hijacks a jet to flatten the World Trade Center as a pretext to invade Afghanistan, but they stop it.

I didn't even know about that show because I didn't really watch entertainment much.

And even like Variety wrote a year later, why did anybody notice that there was a show with Chris Carter?

Then I talked to Chris Carter and his people.

Years later, they go, No, the CIA came to us and told us to make that.

Ask Chris Carter.

Strike me down on the line.

And then I had X-Files

actors on the show talking about it.

People can pull that up.

I'm not making this up.

So if I have to say one thing, it's things like Building 7.

And then I interviewed Barry Jennings, and then he died two weeks later, the deputy head of emergency management.

And he said they told him that they'd blown it up and he had to get out and that bombs were going to destroy it.

And then I interviewed cops that I saw on PBS saying, get back, they're going to bring that down.

I went to New York a bunch, actually found the officers on tape.

And they said, yeah, it was on the Red Cross channel.

I'm not saying the Red Cross is bad, folks, but it's the oldest intelligence agency there is.

Whoever was doing it was using the Red Cross channel.

and they, and they go, get back, get back, and they heard the countdown in their earpiece.

And then Building Seven, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, falls.

And then you've got BBC, CNN, and a bunch of others.

This footage is all out there for your viewers saying,

anybody on the next, when this clip gets posted, they'll post it all under.

That's what's great about the work anymore.

I just say, remember this clip, it's all right there.

And I didn't see this till years later because I wasn't watching all the channels.

Three years after 9-11,

NBC, CNN, BBC, they all decided, I'm not saying they all are the same group, but they get coordinated.

Archives have gotten cheaper.

They go, we're all going to archive 9-11.

Well, nobody thought to not have that.

So I hadn't seen the BBC on two channels and Aaron Brown on CNN and all these others going, that building has been destroyed.

It fell in its own footprint.

And they're going, well, it's still there.

So they gave them the order.

said it was about to come down in its own footprint.

First, they said they're going to blow it up and they go, no, no, people talk about that.

No, no, no, it's going to fall its own footprint.

On three channels, they get it early.

They jump the gun and it hasn't fallen and then it falls 27 minutes later.

And that reminds me of JFK, the movie that's really, I think, very accurate.

They had already put Oswald's picture out, had it ready, and they published it in foreign newspapers in Asia right around the time, right, minutes after Kennedy shot.

No one had gotten him for hours.

Lee Harvey Oswald, you know, coming out of the theater.

So it was kind of like that.

They jumped the gun.

Now, you look at that.

I'm not saying there weren't Muslims.

I'm not saying they don't want to kill us.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be shipping them all in here.

My God.

I'm totally.

People are like, you don't care about that.

You're un-American.

No, I'm saying you can sit here with your crew, Glenn, and you can go over everything I just said.

And we've got the newscast of all that.

And it's there.

And it is incredible.

And

it just, so just building seven, just, and then we've got the raw footage of the Pentagon.

And there's, there's nothing.

And there's three rings blown straight through.

And the witnesses said they saw a missile going to it.

I don't know what happened.

I know somebody that was there and saw the plane.

I believe them then.

I believe them.

What did they say they saw?

The plane.

They were

in a meeting.

They walked out.

They have horrible burns from it.

They walked out of their office.

They went to the bathroom, which was just passed, and everything went through their office.

And when they came out, they heard, they came out, and there it was, burning.

Really?

Well,

I liked it.

There's no footage of that, though.

I'm not saying they're lying.

I've interviewed a bunch of the people, including, I forgot her name, black lady that, you know, I think had her baby with her that day.

She smelled all the cordite and it shot through multiple rings, the Pentagon that's armored steel.

But again, and listen, I hope 9-11 wasn't some type of inside job.

I believed it at the time I said it.

And all I say is

you can't not look at Building 7 and look at all the other things that went on there.

And no steel buildings have ever collapsed like that until that day.

And so I think it's very, very sad.

I will tell you that

I think you

are not a thinking human being, especially when you see what happened to Sandy Berger.

There was some connection with our government and 9-11.

Whether they planned it, knew it, I don't know.

But

you can't look at what, you know, Sandy Berger goes in and he goes through all the records of past presidents, both Republican and Democrat, takes papers out, destroys them, and then he gets his security clearance taken away for a year.

Somebody was hiding something.

I don't know what it was, but somebody was definitely hiding something.

Well, that's the thing.

There's thousands of other points.

We get on the 9-11 rabbit roll for a million years.

The Joint Chiefs were going to have for six months a meeting on 9-11 in New York to cancel that.

Mayor Willie Brown told the San Francisco Chronicle that he was told not to fly the day before to New York.

It was in local news that

mosque and places were saying, but also just regular businesses, don't go in the towers tomorrow.

or a couple of days.

I mean, that was in the news.

And then we would cover it from the local news.

They'd have national news saying I was making it up.

So I think one thing that helped blow me up is that they would also go, well, this guy's flamboyant and young.

And

he says some stuff sometimes that isn't exactly right.

We'll just attack him every time there's a story and say, oh, this lunatic said it.

But people already had such low trust for the system.

They went, well, I'll see what this guy's all about.

So that's been the weird paradox is it's like I'm radioactive, but

The more they attack me, so many people don't trust the system.

It sends me more viewers.

But that's why it's polarizing.

It creates the people that hate me and it creates the people that like me.

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Final segment now with Alex Jones.

Let's skip ahead a bit to the Sandy Hook thing, the thing that got you

into trouble.

The first judgment was a trillion dollars?

The first was $45 million in Texas.

Okay.

And then, yes, in Connecticut.

Yeah.

They asked for,

folks, you're not going to believe this.

You have to pull it up.

And then they asked for

the GDP of India, $2.67 trillion.

And you weren't making $2.6 trillion.

Oh, they lied and said I was worth $400 million.

I mean, there's been a time where I had $10 million in my bank account in a couple of big houses.

I mean, I've never been.

We're not talking living back money here, folks.

No, but seriously,

it was just to try to tell the story.

I don't even feel like a victim.

In fact, it taught me a lot and made me grow up a lot and made me be more careful.

And now it's been such a learning experience.

The last six years of lawfare and lies

and not understanding and thinking I knew a lot.

And I now I'd like to know how much I don't know.

I mean,

you could teach a college degree in this, understanding propaganda, PR, deep state, how it works.

And I only understood it after the judgments, because I was already found guilty by the judges.

They had show trials on how guilty I was.

So I'm guilty until proven how guilty.

Not just innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent.

I'm guilty.

And then they decide how guilty, literally.

They had PR firms come out.

You can pull up their names in New York and Connecticut and say, we did it.

We're so proud of ourselves.

So they admitted the whole thing.

But the actual judgment in Connecticut is $1.5 billion now.

That's what the judge cut it back to.

And Texas is $45 million.

So

this is a very interesting story.

And if you want me to encapsulate it, I can.

I want you, because we've talked about it before,

but I want you to tell me

two things.

Do you regret any of it?

So did you make any mistakes in that?

And was was there a figure that you thought

I think that would be fair?

I think they go hand in hand.

If you don't think you made a mistake, there wouldn't be a figure.

That is a very complex question.

There was a time before they even sued me

that

I would have paid them money and apologized because I already had that I actually

had gone from thinking it didn't happen to way before they sued me saying, yeah, that's not who I am.

I barely covered it.

And by the way, I'm sorry.

And then that only elicited, oh, now he admits he lied.

And then the process of

the PR firms and the fundraisers, hundreds of millions, and my name being used for years, this guy's bullying us, give us money, that they attached themselves to me.

So

to answer the question, at a time, I would have said I did things wrong and I would have given them money.

I offered them $70 million over 10 years, not even knowing I could make that to pay them.

They said, no, that's not enough punishment.

They said, we want to take you off the air and then chase you and hurt you.

And they've said that in the news.

It's not the families.

Here's what happened.

Almost 12 years ago,

at a previously closed school, run down, serious problems, no security cameras not working, all these problems.

Adam Lanza gets a gun that his mother legally got.

It was serious autism stuff, goes in and kills kids and some teachers.

I'm sitting back, 99% of what I did back then, especially was cover what other people are saying and doing, give my opinion or show a news article.

Hey, you know, Bill Gates said, you know, if we don't give old people care, we can hire 10 teachers.

Here's a clip.

I mean, it's what you do.

I mean, you do a lot more investigative.

Then you say 80%, you just cover what's going on.

And you say, look at this plane crashed.

Look what AOC just said.

Yeah, give perspective according to my point of view.

Absolutely.

So I'm just up there talking.

It's a show.

I like it, but it's also exhausting.

So sometimes, you know, I'm kind of going fast if I'm tired because I'm just trying to, you know,

when I'm tired, that's why I talk fast because I'm just kind of getting through it.

But it's actually harder to slow down.

So just slow down.

Because if you understand how this was done to me,

you'll understand how it's being done in society by the left to make everybody guilty of things they didn't do, like gun owners are responsible for mass shootings.

No, it's the breakdown of society.

The psychotropic drugs that admit on the label can cause psychotic breaks of mass murder, homicidal thoughts and ideations and actions.

It's on the labels.

So I'm sitting there, and that day there's helicopters and a guy in camo in the woods, and the witnesses are reporting men in camo running by the windows.

This is on the news.

I have the news clips.

Fog of war, maybe it's not true.

Except there's footage of it.

And

I noticed in the depositions, the whole thing, the judge never wanted that talked about it, and they never wanted to talk about it in the depositions.

We get really mad if we talk about the man in the woods and that doesn't exist.

You made that up.

And I have the newscast, multiple ones with the guys in the woods and the cops stopping in a camo behind the school.

So day one,

to me, I've got a four-hour show.

It's happening.

It's a tragedy.

We cover it for like 30 minutes, come back to it later.

Oh, this is terrible.

You know, bet this kid's on drugs, whatever.

Then the internet doesn't believe it and sees these anomalies and finds things that a lot of the anomalies turn out to not be accurate.

Some have never been answered.

And so it becomes this huge thing for a couple of years.

None of my videos really went viral compared to, I mean, there was videos with 50 million views, 100 million on YouTube that were these investigators and these professors in Florida and Wisconsin and

school safety people.

And

I had a few of them on and

they'd been on news before and they had credentials.

And so they entered in evidence against me when they did sue me, 22 minutes.

So they sued me.

It's been almost 12 years.

So they sued me six years ago.

They sued me five, six years after it happened.

About five years after it happened.

And in the incredible cost of the depositions and the discovery, which we could plot with everything, it got defaulted, we learned, because we had all our archives, basically, what I'd done.

And they went through

maybe 10 shows I'd done on it, and then maybe seven or eight other shows my guest host or some of my reporters had done or interviews.

We had debate, a debate about it.

I had the school safety guy on a few times.

I had

one of the professors on.

I think I had the Florida guy on.

I think I had him on too.

So maybe we did 15 shows on it.

And basically, because people were, the listeners wanted us to.

I never went to Connecticut, never went to their houses, never sent anybody at their houses, never any of that.

So then they're wanting to attack Trump, and Hillary brings it up a few months before the campaign ends, and they try to make me Trump.

So by demonizing me, they think they're going to hurt Trump.

And suddenly, I'm in every newspaper every day.

I mean, everywhere, AP every couple of days.

I could flip through CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, turn to local news eight, the time warner runs.

It's now Verizon, or it's now,

what's the local cable called?

It's called.

It doesn't matter.

They've still got their local news channel.

Frontier?

It's driving me crazy.

What's the name of local cable, Jason Austin?

It's Spectrum.

Sorry.

Oh, yeah.

Anyways, sorry.

I get obsessed at that point and can't remember it.

So, see, with me, I just actually go to my memories.

This isn't like, you know, scripted.

I'm just going to my memory.

So it's kind of jumping back and forth.

So local News 8 at the time, which was still CNN, is attacking me every day for like off and on for a year.

And it's like they're about to invade a country.

The level of propaganda is so bad.

But really, they were demonizing free speech, the average conservative, and Trump kind of using me as a straw man.

So they built this thing I hadn't done.

I'm like, I'm not this important.

Something really crazy is going on, but I hadn't figured it out.

I knew they were demonizing Trump with me.

And so I started saying, I believe it happened.

I'd already said that.

I go, listen, you know, I'm not the Sandy Hook guy.

Stop, stop.

Because they're saying in present tense, I'm sitting people in their houses and peeing on graves.

And I never did any of that.

Nobody did that.

So,

and they're running ads all over Facebook and all over Twitter.

Oh my God, he's attacking us.

And they would send letters to tech companies and say, he's doing it right now.

We're in clear and present danger.

Stop.

And then I got deplatformed everywhere, but not because of that.

They gave their reasons why I was deplatformed.

And the head of Apple talked about it, Tim Cook, and the head of Twitter went on Joe Rogan and said it was for other reasons that I bullied Oliver Darcy.

That was the final reason on X.

And then they went, oh, he's off because of Sandy Hook.

And then they sued me, I guess, 2018.

And

then it just ran everywhere again and all over the news.

I mean, I've been on PBS.

People call the time, hey, there's another documentary about you and movies.

And then they made that HBO thing.

And I can tell you about that.

But

then they get all the discovery and they keep saying, who's your boss?

Where's the money?

Where's the Mercers?

Where's the?

And I'm like, I sell t-shirts and videos and supplements.

I mean, it's all right here.

And then they sanctioned me in Connecticut saying, you're lying.

There There is Sandy Hook promotional material.

Your news,

we know, the judge said, we know you have Google Analytics.

When Google Analytics is a search of Google systems, what do you want from Google?

They went, we want the analytics you were getting.

We search our whole database of everything.

Find one time one of the writers wanted to see a story and went to Google Analytics.

And they go, see, we hold you.

that you are now going to be defaulted because you did use Google Analytics.

We wanted the Google Analytics.

And I kept explaining, it's a search engine internally on Google.

It's like saying, give me Google.

Or give me Hollywood.

It's just this huge history.

It's this huge thing.

And say, or say, give me a tree in the forest.

Well, which tree?

And so they defaulted me there.

They defaulted me in Texas.

The same thing.

I go in.

There's huge HBO cameras.

It's two and a half years ago.

And

my lawyers aren't allowed to talk.

We're giving a list of things we can't say.

I can't say I'm innocent.

I can't say I'm in bankruptcy.

And then they put on a financial expert who's never looked at our books and says Jones has made billions.

Jones himself is like the greatest entrepreneur ever.

He's got 360 million in the bank.

And I'm sitting there at the time because of all the suits and everything.

And I've got like 3 million bucks in the bank.

And my lawyer said, your bill is like 4 million.

So the day he's saying this, I'm sitting there.

And at coffee and breakfast, they're like, we need money.

And I'm literally going, God, I guess I'll sell my lake house.

And the judge, the last day, doesn't let us talk.

Same thing in Connecticut.

And puts on experts, literally just coal cloth.

glenn beck has 50 trillion dollars of gold buried under his building and you're up there you can't respond and he made it all off them

and made zero off these people i mean literally i don't i cover a story it's interesting it's not like there's money in a story only time that's true is like oh god look the water's all got poison in it we've got a water filter it's very obvious direct sale right you need a water filter so so

and i've had like you know

you know, ammo companies advertisers.

I'm like, folks, you know, you need ammo.

I mean, I mean, when it's very direct, speaking of that story, here's this, but never like some master plan.

And so HBO did stuff like put out stuff that's completely, we've never had something marked up eight times, even three times or two times.

And

they're like, and look, this day, he made $400,000

because this story was on his website.

You look at the analytics, 5,000 readers for it.

And they line up that one day where a product we've been promoting for three months came in and with storable food.

They'd only bill every two weeks.

When it shipped, we wouldn't bill the credit cards till it shipped and that product came in we normally didn't have four houses a day it's usually 150 000 a day or something they go look the day of the story 400 000 he made it off them no they charge for two weeks of food and the first day of the sale of a hot product came out you know that you're in business so you have to fund your operation and couldn't get up couldn't explain it and and the and the jurors just look at me going

you know anybody in media knows you don't make $400,000 off talking about a mass shooting off a product.

No, you promote a book for six months.

It's coming out.

The The day it drops, there's a big spike because

the people get it.

So,

and I told them all this in the depositions, and it was just, and you watch the HBO thing, and it's literally

twisting little pieces like a refrigerator magnet game where you can make any sentence you want.

Or I could cut the Bible up and have it say, love Satan, he's your God, he's the best.

You know, Jesus is going to hell.

But the Bible doesn't say that, but they would just.

So I actually didn't even feel sorry for myself during this.

It became actually very interesting historically that I was experiencing this.

Then the PR firms came out and bragged how they did it, how they dredged up stuff I did, exaggerated it, blew it up for years, demonized Trump, then sued me, then used it for PR to raise money massively

for anti-gun crusade using my name, which is hated by the left so that we get big money.

And I just looked back and I was like, wow, this is a very sophisticated corporate operation.

Then internal undercover videos of FBI, CIA admitting it all, that the FBI head

counsel,

and I didn't get what I was seeing two and a half years ago in Connecticut.

I'm watching the head of the FBI counsel at the time, he's since retired, get up there and say,

I don't know why they wanted it on record.

The Koscoff lawyer, Koscoff's his name, third generation law firm, big Democrat Party thing with Senator Limenthal.

He looks at me and goes, why are you here?

And why are you so?

And he goes, well, you know, people didn't think it was me.

And,

you know, that day, they didn't think I was really an FBI agent because I wasn't wearing my my FBI thing and my rifle was pointing down the wrong way or whatever, or up the wrong way.

But, you know, I am.

And, you know,

and it's terrible.

So I came to you and I got with the families.

And I think we needed to come after him.

And so we did because he was doing this to us.

My lawyer gets up and he goes, sir, has Mr.

Jones ever said your name?

No.

Has any of his crew ever said your name?

No.

Have they ever written about you, anything about you?

No, not to my knowledge.

Well, tell me, what happened to you?

What was the harassment you got?

Well, one time a reporter called me to see if I was real at my office at the FBI.

And then he called again a month later.

I go out during the break.

The local web guy, you know, news guy, he's there.

He goes, yeah, that was me.

And I looked up the record.

It was him.

He was investigating it before I was.

So everything everybody else did was me.

He won $130 million of the $1.5 million.

And the law, Connecticut, says you can't sue somebody who haven't said their name unless you're in a class action tort.

you know, and something like that.

But that's not the law.

That was all thrown out.

I was found guilty.

I was already guilty.

They They were then shown false information.

And I have the FBI saying we initiated the thing against Alex Jones.

So yes, would I have done it different if I knew the trap?

I meant well and just covered what people were saying.

And I had no idea years later it would be used against me.

Back when I did understand how

cold-blooded and Democrat Party machine it was.

I actually was buying into, wow, I've hurt people.

And even though I wasn't the one that ran it or progenerated it, if it makes them feel better, I apologized over and over again pathetically countless times.

That only encouraged it.

And then when I got on the Texas stand and they totally controlled what I could say and shut me down, and the judge said, you're not allowed to lie up here.

You're a liar.

When I blurted out, I don't have all this money.

You say, that's not true.

Yes, you do.

You're not allowed to lie here.

They then put one of the mothers who lost her child up.

And I tape my show at 6 a.m.

that morning.

They come in after lunch and the lawyer goes, Your Honor, he went on today and said her son doesn't exist and she's an actor.

And everybody's looking at me, and the jury's looking at me, and I'm sitting there going, That's not true.

So, this is like after lunch at like one o'clock, I've taped from like six to nine.

I go down to the courthouse and do this, we barely make it to 9:30.

And I'm sitting there, and she goes up to the stand.

And for 30 minutes, the judge lets her go, How dare you say my son doesn't exist?

There's footage of all this.

How dare you say he didn't die?

You get it again today.

And the jury just goes, and I'm like, It's not true.

The judge goes, Silence.

And she goes goes on and on and on.

And then finally, I get to rebutt and I get up and I go, Jury, please, you can go watch my show.

It's at InfoWars.com.

It's restreaming.

I swear to God, it's in the first 30 minutes.

I said, she's real.

I believe her.

Her husband's really nice.

You know, I thought he was an actor because he's such just a normal country boy.

It's, it's not an actor.

He's very nice.

I'd given him a note saying that.

And, and all of this.

And just, please, for God's sake, go see it.

It didn't matter.

And then I went, then I looked at him and I was like, and later I went over to him and I gave him another note and I said, that's not true.

And

then the next day I saw him, they were just like,

and I was like, whoa,

I don't know what's going on here.

This is creepy.

And then I learned the rest of it.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I know it was the weirdest thing when I was being deposed at Koscoff two days straight, six months before the trial, or nine months, whatever it was.

And they were so paranoid about me.

They had like armed guards outside the door and all this.

And I'm being deposed by Blumenthal's son, Senator Blumenthal's son, and this other guy looks like Eddie Munster.

And he's the big former federal prosecutor that put the Republican governor of Connecticut in jail.

His name is Chris Matty.

And I'm sitting there.

He goes, I want you to read, because he would have me do this for hours, read these police reports.

You know, they kids out here at this.

And I'd never read these police reports because they'd only gotten released recently, a few years ago, like four years ago.

And I start reading.

We arrive, blah, blah, blah, go in.

You know, there's bullet holes in the door, blah, blah, blah, go in.

And then there's footage of all this we have this real film ought to be made you you you could find it anyways

and i've never gone back and looked at it because this is so this was traumatic and i turned to page two and he goes

try to open bathroom door can't force it open with other officer find pyramid pile of dead children with no blood believe bodies were moved there

See, I was saying I thought they had help from what was there when I was actually covering it.

Then the fake internet thing comes in and says, none, die.

there's something going on and chris may go stop stop stop let's move on from that let's move on from that right there i guess he hadn't even read it it's in the police report strike me down looking for yourself so so i don't know what's going on there and lanza was approached by unnamed federal agencies we tried to hack into the cia look that up and i'm getting chills right now so i don't know i don't know i don't know and and i and i'm not the guy to do this because i'm alex jones i'm just telling people they don't want you looking into this and

that's another thing.

They told me in the settlement hearings a year before the trial in Connecticut and Texas.

And I couldn't talk about the time in there with his lawyers and a judge, you know, doing the settlement talk.

I couldn't talk about it then until they later talked to my lawyers, not in a settlement talk, but openly told them again, personally.

In Texas and Connecticut, they said, the families, that means Democratic Party above them, never want you to talk about it again.

And I said, I don't want to talk about it.

I didn't, but this is a, but, but, but they go, but we're going to keep talking about you.

And I said, I said, well, that's not going to happen.

And, and then they openly said in Connecticut, and

he literally looks at me, Koskoff, and he's wearing a mask just during COVID.

He goes, you don't get it, do you?

He goes, we're like the godfather.

We're the mafia.

We run this state.

You're not going to win this.

You're not going to beat us.

And he said, they're going to give you a proposal later.

Your lawyer is.

And if you don't, if you take it or leave it.

So my lawyer goes, well, and this is Norm Pattis.

He goes, you can't talk about this now because because it was in that thing.

You signed an agreement, but they later talked about it.

So I could, they brought it back to him.

And that wasn't in control.

They didn't say it then.

They said, they want you to come out against the Second Amendment.

And I said, let me guess.

They want something else.

I said, call them back and find out.

And he said, yeah.

They said, that's just the start.

And I said, never, never,

never.

And then Texas did the same thing.

They didn't say we're the godfather.

But strike me down.

He said, we're like, you see the Godfather?

And I said, yeah, it's a great movie.

I love it.

Mario Pusa.

You know, the book.

And I said,

we're the mafia.

We run the state.

You will lose.

And he said it with total certainty in his fancy suit with his mask on.

And

it was a big joke.

So

have I hurt people?

Have I said things about people being cocky and a dick?

Yeah, I've done it to you.

Because I think subconsciously, I'm not jealous of people now.

I've grown up.

I think it was jealousy because I've been doing this longer.

Of course, you've been on here longer than me.

And then you just blew up everywhere.

It was the overnight success statement, which it wasn't.

And then I don't think, I didn't think you were as hardcore on some issues.

And I don't know who talked about who first.

We've already, we've already done it.

We've already done that.

But the reason I raise that is I'm willing to say where I'm wrong.

Like I was wrong to drink.

I didn't spend enough time with my first three children.

I spent, I wasn't a bad dad, but like, you know, C plus, okay.

I want to be an A plus.

I've not been with my children enough.

I've I've been a drunk at times.

I didn't realize the power I had and would say all I saw off the cuff.

And I've learned a lot of lessons.

But

what they say I did on Sandy Hook is the model of disinformation.

Entire tissue.

I'm not saying Sandy Hook itself, a shooting.

The entire response to me and everything was running the Democratic Party, PR firms, and law firms with U.S.

government agencies admittedly quarterbacking it.

And now you see the stuff Trump's gone through with supposedly raping a woman and all that stuff.

And then what they did to him.

And you look at all of it.

And it's just, she can't even say what year it is.

She poses on the cover of a major magazine and says, this is what he attacked me in.

And it wasn't made till two years after.

I mean, it's just not, come on.

And, and, and then you look her up and she's the definition of a crazy cat lady.

And you're not even supposed to be able to say that.

So

that's why, as much as Trump makes me mad sometimes, because I wish he'd do this.

I wish he did that.

It's easy to Monday morning quarterback.

The hell he's gone through.

And I know you've gone through a lot too.

I like him.

No, I don't think anybody's gone through what Trump has gone through.

That is, that is a,

I mean, he's the most investigated man, I think, in the history of

the world, mankind.

Yeah, um, by every agency in every country.

And this is what you come up with.

Uh, and then they just

screw him to the wall every time.

And

I mean, I have a very hard time believing that

best case scenario, the government,

through

whatever, their sloppiness

and

not caring what happens, allowed that shooting to happen.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Bare minimum.

And if you look at it all, they're lying and saying the Secret Service shot the guy, and reportedly they didn't.

I mean, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

Bare minimum, deliberate standout.

So

I can't let you leave without asking.

Is it almost over already?

We're over time, but that's great.

I love it.

Well, I don't want to just talk about myself all day, but

here's what

I want to leave it with this.

What's coming?

For America?

Yeah, what's coming in the next, you know, with the election?

I mean, I can't see a good way that that goes.

No matter who wins.

I can't see because

we no longer have a country

where we give give each other the benefit of the doubt.

We're not going to walk away from this and say, oh, well, you know, that was fair and square.

If Trump wins, I can't imagine that the left

and the WEF and with all of the power and money that's at stake,

I can't imagine that he makes it to the Oval again.

I totally agree.

And to answer your key question, I'll have a little bit of time here.

This is so important, Glenn.

I don't say this because it's about me.

You ask what's coming if he loses or wins.

I didn't tell you about the five grand juries they've had open on me trying to indict me for all sorts of little weird business stuff.

And they couldn't by the grace of God.

I'm not like, John Gotti, hey, you didn't get me.

I'm like, I'm innocent.

This is crazy.

And they're trying that on everybody.

So

if they're able to steal the election from Trump or kill him, and they already tried, and they killed him because they can see he's even more popular than 2016.

And so

We need to pray for him.

We need to hold him up.

We need to support him in all his failings.

We're all sinners.

And we have to understand that this is the dying of the globalist empire.

The old financial bubble is coming to an end.

And they tried to kill him because they knew they were going to lose.

Now they're going to try even more.

He's had multiple plane problems.

All this stuff is very serious.

And so, and this is why I have empathy, too.

If they can get Trump, and he's right when he says they're not trying to get me, they've got to get through me to get to you.

You better believe

that Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan's getting more hardcore.

And I know Joe, so I'm not going to get into inside baseball, but I know these.

RFK.

So, RFK.

Tulsi Gabbards.

Tulsi Gabbard.

They are.

I said this before they tried to kill Trump.

I said, they're imminently going to try to shoot him days before.

And I said, they cut his security.

I was all over that.

And I said, folks, if they kill Trump, they're going after him.

And I said your name.

I'm not trying to make this into reality.

But I said, anybody they know that will not sell out just because we can't do it.

People say, well, you sell out.

I can't physically do it.

I can't physically shut up.

And so

I said they're going to go after Tucker Carlson, myself, Glenn Beck,

Rogan, RFK Jr.

And I don't mean just go after us with the regular stuff.

No.

Because this is a real criminal regime.

And we know the State Department now was involved with the voting machines and

getting Bolsonaro indicted and getting Bolsonaro kicked off the ballot.

It's all the same.

And

helping

the Brazilian government go after Elon Musk now.

Exactly.

Oh, God.

I didn't say Elon Musk.

Okay.

I'm glad you said that.

And Elon Musk.

This is the order of who they need to get because this is who's the biggest.

And I've said this on the air, and it's not about, you know, a weenie measuring contest.

In fact, I kind of like to be kind of like not, you know, because they saw me in 2016.

I'd like to not be on this list.

Exactly.

They saw me as the biggest thing other than Trump 2016.

I was not.

Your show was bigger.

It's not about measuring.

It's just true.

So, so, but they picked me as like the big devil.

So it goes, Trump and Elon Musk.

You can't say who they hate more.

I think they're like twin things here, twin stars.

And then you've got the Rogans, Glenn Becks, Tucker Carlsons, and then you've got, you know, Alex Jones and the Russell brands and all that stuff.

And of course, RFK is kind of, you know, up there on his own thing, but he's, you know, he's not a direct threat to them, but I think he's pissed them off so much.

Yeah.

That, you know.

Yeah.

So we're not up here like saying this, like, hey, we're on the, you know, it's like when John Hancock signed his name so big.

Oh, I, I, he knew what he was doing.

And I'm telling people, this is, this is the game time.

So, so, yeah, I mean, well, I'll ask Lenn Beck his own question.

I mean, I think Trump's right.

We are doomed

pretty much.

I mean, barring a miracle, we saw a miracle in

Butler.

I think this is the last exit America can take.

If we don't take this exit and turn back to God, turn back to the Constitution, we're done.

And we get everything we deserve.

Absolutely.

You know, and I do think that

you look at the silencing campaign that is going on right now in Brazil, in Europe, in England, and the authoritarian

lust for silence from the other side.

By the end of the next term, if it is Kamala Harris, I don't think our voices, one way or another, I don't think any dissenting voice is heard.

That's perfectly said.

And I just say this in closing.

They say that.

They say they must shut us down.

They are seizing power, like when the Nazis did it or the communists in Russia or China.

They say they're seizing power.

They're making their big move.

The red banners are back in the streets all over the world.

The intimidation, it's insane.

And that's why it's important to support the Blaze.

It's why for your viewers out there, they may shut down InfoWars in the next two months.

They've liquidated it.

The U.S.

trustee got fired by the judge.

They tried to shut it down 10 weeks ago.

You were gracious enough to have me on.

They later admitted, yeah, we tried to shut it down outside of a court order.

They just came and said, we're locking the doors.

The judge fired them, said no.

But Mr.

Jones is a bankruptcy himself, so they don't want to settle.

I'm ordering liquidation.

The sale is October 24th.

We've got a lot of folks that are patriots that are to come in.

They could try to outbit us.

They say they have some globalist billionaires to come into it.

They're even trying to say they own my name, which they don't, and the real Alex Jones on X.

All the lawyers say they can't do it.

So it's now identity theft next next level, slavery.

And so people need to know it.

It is, could be the Twilight of Infowars.

And if, and people will just check out the show, not so I get bigger.

It's so I survive.

And so if people just in a few months, if where's Alex, look for me, try to find me,

because the real danger is when they silence somebody before they even come back, that's when they target.

And so this is about my family.

It is extremely dangerous.

And to me, it's about survival of the country now.

We're all in this together.

I was talking to your producer, Glenn, and we've talked on air.

You've been more elegant and smart because you're older than I was.

I've learned a lot from you.

I think you do some of the best insightful analysis, the best out there, period.

And so I've learned a lot from you, and I appreciate that.

But you're absolutely right when you say, even, you know, 15 years ago, we're still kind of in competition and we're sniping.

And no, no, I see populists, conservatives, Christians everywhere really unifying now because we have to.

We have to.

Alex, I'm sure there's tons of stuff that we disagree with i'm sure yeah um and we agree america's in trouble

we agree that america's in trouble and i am a free speech absolutist period that's what america is yeah if you are an enemy of free speech

i'm i'm your enemy you're going after somebody and not you but i mean they've gone after

uh you know they've gone after bill maher who i have nothing in common with back after the world Trade Center went down.

I stood with him.

You did?

Because

free speech is the cornerstone of everything.

And I know you know this, but this is the, I didn't know this until it happened to me.

I thought

when you're young, you know everything.

You get older.

Yeah, you know nothing.

You don't just get silenced

when they silence you.

They can then lie about you, misrepresent you, and steal your idea.

And they build this thing you're not, and you can't respond.

That's why you've got to let really horrible speech go because the answer, the antidote antidote, is the good speech.

Yes.

Alex Jones.

Lynn, thank you so much.

Amazing.

Thank you.

God bless you.

The coolest studios in America.

And by the way, you're an amazing artist.

I'm not kissing your ass.

It's true.

Thank you.

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