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Are they eating kitty cats or not?

America needs to know how many licks to the center of a kitty cat.

Three.

We will go to Springfield, Ohio.

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If you live in Ohio, Springfield, Ohio, I'd like to hear, I mean,

I don't think they're eating cats,

but there is voodoo in Haiti, and they take that very seriously.

And I think cats and cat bones are part of that voodoo thing.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I can't believe we're talking about this.

We do know that there was a woman who ate a cat in Ohio.

It was just a different part of Ohio, and it was someone born in Ohio.

Good old American.

Yeah.

We got them.

We got good people here too.

We got good old cat eaters.

But like, this is the point, right?

We know we have crazy people in America.

It's like our family.

Everybody's got a crazy person in their family.

And we understand that we have, we have a whole meme about Florida man, right?

Like everyone knows there's plenty of crazy people inside the United States, good old Americans, red, white, and blue, nut jobs.

We got it.

We have to deal with them every day.

The point is, let's not import more.

Let's not bring more crazy people into our country.

What do you say?

I think maybe we should be really careful about the people we add to this very, very interesting stew we have brewing here in this country.

What could possibly go wrong?

No one's saying everything that's bad happens because of immigrants.

No, no.

We've got plenty of nut jobs.

Half of the country is going to vote for Kamala Harris, for God's sake.

We know we have nut job people here in America.

We do.

The point is, let's not add to the issue.

Well, I don't know.

It makes life interesting.

You know what I mean?

At least I look at it and I'm like,

you know, who knew?

Who knew we were going to have people that eat cats here, you know?

Yeah.

It's funny, though.

You never know.

You get up every morning.

You're like, spin the wheel.

What's going to happen today?

What's going to happen next?

Now, I was fascinated to see all of the reporting on the cat thing.

And they're like, without evidence, you know, this was said without evidence.

I mean, that's not really true.

Right.

Like, that doesn't mean that everybody online is nailing the facts of the story correctly.

But, like, I would say that people devouring cats, American or not, in a country which at the top of it is the Biden-Harris administration, still notable, right?

It's still kind of like, wow, what country do we live in?

Right.

Where people are devouring cats

or people think people are devouring cats.

Even that is enough.

That's enough.

We have lots of,

we know

there is a picture of a guy walking down the street with a dead goose.

We don't know the story behind that.

That was, by the way, in Columbus, I think, Ohio, not in Springfield.

And he could have been, he may not have been.

He might have been walking down the street and somebody was up in an upper window and he was like, hey, boy, what day is it?

Well, it's Christmas, he said.

Right in here, go, you know, that big goose in the window.

Go buy it for me.

That could have happened.

It could have happened.

We don't know.

We don't know.

We know, we do know that there was a 911 call

about Haitians grabbing geese.

That is actually, that one's been proven to be accurate.

Now, we don't know if the claim was accurate, but we know the call was made.

So to say without evidence is a stretch.

I want to go there.

I want to go to Springfield.

My guess is you're not going to find cats, cat carcasses all over the park, all over the side.

It's going to be like, you know, those elephant graveyards?

It's going to be like that.

Just cat graveyards.

Yeah, perhaps.

Another thing we do know, though, by the way, about Springfield and the situation situation that has happened is that it has stressed the schools in the area.

It has stressed

the medical facilities.

Medical facilities.

The police.

The other one that's big is, and this has been admitted by tons and tons of people, is I love the way that they put this.

Haitians have a different driving culture.

That's what they said.

A different driving culture.

Really?

Which means they are apparently crazy drivers, many of them.

Have you ever been to Haiti?

Have you ever ever driven?

Definitely never been to Haiti and never, ever, ever want to go to Haiti.

I have been.

Describing that as a different driving culture?

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

It's insane.

Is it?

It is insane.

Because the roads are so horrible.

Everybody's going wherever they want.

No traffic signals.

No stop signs.

And again, that's fine in your country if that's the way you want to run it.

But apparently that has put a lot of people in actual danger.

Did they just take the, did they take the driver's test or did everybody just get a driver's license?

I think we just give him out like handy.

I think we do.

We put him in

gum in trading cards.

That's how I think we do it with a driver's license.

Have you heard, have you heard Christopher Ruffo's breakdown of what's happening here?

Yes, I did actually go through this.

It is unbelievable.

Let me just...

give you his

thread on this.

Story begins in 2021 when the Biden-Harris administration signed the American Rescue Plan Act into law.

What was the American Rescue Plan Act, Stu?

What was that again?

That was to rescue.

That was the one that was to rescue us from the pandemic that was basically overall.

Correct.

Right.

And maybe the central cause of the inflation problem.

Yeah.

That was the one that really hissed.

I mean, the Inflation Reduction Act was also part.

There's a bunch of stuff that was part of it, but that one in particular was really, really tactical.

So we were told the American Rescue Plan Act was to help rescue America.

No.

They allocated $3.8 billion to Colorado.

The city of Denver drew on this reservoir of funds to launch its migrant resettlement and housing program.

The city in turn funneled more than $5 million to two left-wing NGOs, Vivi Wellness and Papagayo, to secure housing for thousands of Venezuelan immigrants.

Now, let me ask you how is it i wasn't on this memo you know what i mean were you on the memo did you get the alert i was not no yeah did mercury one mercury one never knew that all this money was uh available just to you know relocate venezuelans what was it three years ago

didn't know that didn't know that we we just assumed that the um you know the the act to rescue america

was

something that was going to rescue America, not Venezuelans.

Okay.

These organizations are run by Yoli Casas

and somebody else, two Venezuelan immigrants who do not appear to have any experience in large-scale migrant resettlement.

Okay,

so who gave this money to them?

Much of the funding was directly tied to ARPA, A-R-P-A, through the Migrant Support Grant Program.

I didn't know we had a a Migrant Grant Support Program, did you?

Yoli Casas, who runs Viva Wellness, said that the flow of government funds was so abundant that she was writing thousands of checks to pay for migrants.

She claimed to have written $350,000 in checks in a single week, all heavily subsidized by you.

These NGOs in turn work with the landlords to place the migrants in housing, including a large number of contracts with CBZ management, which operated the three apartment complexes in Aurora at the center of the Venezuelan takeover scandal.

We spoke with a former CBZ employee who, on the condition of anonymity, explained how the scheme worked.

Representatives from Papagayo arranged hundreds of contracts with CBZ to place migrants in the Aurora apartments.

Soon they were up to 80% full of Venezuelans.

Hmm.

It's a booming business, according to the employee.

Papaguo arranged hundreds of contracts with property managers.

The NGO provided up to two months of rental assistance as many migrants did not have or were unable to open bank accounts.

Within six months, according to the employee, approximately 80% of the residents of these buildings were Venezuelan.

The employees also noted the building saw gang activity and violence.

What?

The employee, however, alleges these agreements were made on false pretenses.

To convince the hesitant employee to accept the migrants, Papagayo made assurances that the tenants had stable jobs and income with limited English and facing a minimum six-month wait for work permits through many, though many migrants were ineligible for legal employment, they struggled to find stable jobs and ultimately all fell behind on the rent.

No!

You gotta be kidding me.

The result was chaos.

We have obtained a confidential report which alleges, according to the witness interviews, that the apartment saw a string of crimes, including trespassing,

assault, extortion, drug use, illegal firearm possession, human trafficking, and sexual abuse.

Oh.

Read the full story about the federal funds driving Aurora migrant crisis exclusively on the City of Aurora's City Journal.

So, Elon Musk posts right after this, concerning.

Yeah, yeah,

I think maybe a little bit

concerning.

And here's what's really concerning.

The idea

of the Bubba effect.

People don't like it when the government is the problem.

And when the government mocks or belittles them or actually accuses them and says, no, you're the problem.

No,

no,

I'm not.

I was talking to Tucker Carlson the other day and he said to me,

the problem is

that

the lies now

are much different.

Usually lies have a little bit of truth in them.

And he said they no longer have truth in them.

In fact, they're the exact mirror opposite of

truth and the way lies usually work.

He said, you know, you have a kid and you say, did you eat the, you come downstairs, you open up the Orioles and they're all gone, but they're back into the closet.

You know, one of the kids did that.

And so your son comes down, you're like, hey, did you eat the Orioles?

I had one.

Well, there was a whole sleeve of them just last night.

I might have had a couple.

I don't know.

That's the way your little kids lie.

You know what I mean

this administration is doing this instead

did you eat the oreos

no

you ate the oreos

bastard

you're accusing me of you what are you a racist

you ate the oreos and now you're asking accusing me

that's what they're doing they're convincing people that you did

the problem.

You are the problem.

They are the problem.

Yeah, that's the Donald Trump wants to defund the police line we got in the debate.

Yesterday.

Like, what?

What are you talking about?

So, this does not end well.

And we have got to keep our cool and know that that is exactly what they're trying to do.

The Bubba effect, I've talked about for years.

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Look at what they're doing.

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I think it was 2006

or 7 that I said, I figured out, wait a minute, I don't think we won the Cold War.

I think we all thought we won the Cold War, but we didn't.

They just changed uniforms.

They just put on business suits, but they're still the KGB thugs, okay?

They're still ruling, but this time through oligarchy.

All right.

That was apparent to me.

When I figured out that we didn't really win the Cold War, I really started to see what was going on, that they were still trying to destroy.

And the progressives in this country were on the same path.

They were going to become oligarchs.

And I said at the time, wait a minute, these people have been saying forever, we've got to bring the rest of the world up to our level of life.

Well, they figured out that that can't be done.

So now they're going to tear us apart and they're going to bring us down to Mexico's level.

Okay.

Now, how do you do that?

It's never been really clear to me until really in the last couple of weeks.

I can see it absolutely crystal clear now.

We told you about the

resources and the natural habitat land grab that's going on where really big

people like BlackRock can go in and buy the land.

I'm sorry, not the land, you own the land, everything under the land and everything above the land, including including the trees, the water, and the air.

So if they own the air and the trees and the water, they can tell you, yeah,

you can't pump any more water out of that well.

It's it's part of the, you know, the ecosystem.

And we're just trying to balance the whole world.

You will lose control of your land.

We also know that they are going to bankrupt all of us.

And the way they're going to do that is through confiscative taxes

and inflation.

You just won't have any money left.

But they also are destroying our infrastructure.

See, when you put the WEF, the great reset, into play,

you're going to have what we have on the streets right now.

You're going to have people that are very upset about it.

And so what you have to do is you have to put those people in jail.

And

when you run out of space in jails, then you have to build new camps.

And I know this sounds crazy, but what the hell in this country isn't crazy right now?

So they have to silence you first and they have to destroy all of the leaders, even people who are doing unbelievable work to pull us in to a whole new chapter like Elon Musk.

They're after him because they can't have you informed and they can't let you speak out.

And this is happening throughout the Western world.

All of the countries are doing exactly the same.

Meanwhile, they're importing people in to cause distress and have new workers.

Notice in this country, Americans aren't getting the jobs.

All of the jobs, we're losing jobs.

All of the jobs are going to these new immigrants.

Well, they're not new immigrants.

You have to destroy everything,

including your ability to fight.

That's why they've gone in and they've destroyed our military and military credibility.

They have made it so my friends and me, I don't want my son going into the military.

Well, the red states are the ones that provide the people, you know, provide the people for the military, usually.

Well, I don't want to send my kids in there because this is a woke nightmare and nobody with any competence is running it, right?

Then they ship all of our arms overseas.

So we've depleted everything.

They've shipped over our oil and our reserves overseas.

So we have nothing.

Then if you want to rebuild, they make sure you can't rebuild.

If the United States got, you know,

in

four years, let's say Kamala wins, and everybody's upset about it, you're not going to get a new person in, and you can't hold a revolution because they will control everything.

Now, beyond that, let's say Donald Trump gets in and we need to make airplanes.

Well,

Boeing was our ace in the hole.

Boeing has been destroyed.

By whom?

The DEI people

and the giant, you know, blackrocks of the world that have just put bean counters into Boeing and destroyed it.

They're taking away your ability to do anything.

You won't be able to manufacture.

You won't be able to restart.

Look what they're doing now to

U.S.

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If we don't have steel in this country, how do we build ships?

And do you think anyone in NATO is going to run to the defense of the United States if we decide to say, we're not playing your game world?

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Glad you're here.

Oh,

man.

All right, let me

show you something that Trump announced yesterday.

This is cut one.

You know, he's got no tax on tips and then no tax on Social Security.

And here's his latest.

Today,

I'm also announcing that as part of our additional tax cuts, we will end all taxes on overtime.

You know what that means?

Think of that.

I actually like that.

Think of that.

That gives people more of an incentive to work.

Yes.

It gives the companies a lot, it's a lot easier to get the people.

And you know, I went to some economists, great ones, and I said, what do you think?

They said, it would be unbelievable.

You'll get a whole new workforce by doing that.

No taxes on overtime.

I think that's true.

I mean, how many people would kill to do overtime, you know, at time and a half or whatever, but the company doesn't want to do it because it's time and a half.

So it's more expensive.

But if I don't have as a company, I don't have to pay taxes.

I don't mind paying you time and a half.

And how many people who are employees would go, I'll work.

Oh, I'll work that extra for time and a half.

Wait, why would that affect the company?

Because you pay half of the taxes.

Because of the payroll tax and such?

Okay.

Yeah.

So no income taxes.

I'm assuming that that's what he means.

I thought it was no income tax, but that was just me kind of just guessing his policy.

So it doesn't, it doesn't

matter the way he says,

you know, the companies would not be incentivized to it, to do it if,

you know, at least at time and a half well you want to work overtime and get the same rate but it's tax-free

you know that that would work it would work because i was going to say two it would might benefit the companies in that they would they could pay essentially uh you know 1.3 times

uh because they people would still be getting the same after-tax income and it would cost the companies less so either way it's benefiting somebody in there i mean i like i like lower taxes uh i'm a big fan of that so i like these these policies generally.

I mean, of course, I like them more broad-based, just as a preference.

But still, I think what's interesting here is he seems to have unlocked this thing where he can pull news cycles with these policies.

Yes.

Like, you know, no taxes on tips is a good example of it.

This particular thing.

He did another one on, I want to amend the, I think it was the 25th Amendment.

on

to prevent vice presidents from lying about the mental capacity of their

he's able to, instead of just saying these things, he's designing specific policies and kind of throwing them out there.

And then it wrestles the whole news cycle.

And they have to answer.

IVF was another one.

Like the narrative was, he's Mr.

Anti-IVS.

Well,

we're going to pay for all of it nationwide.

Now, look, as a

economic conservative, I do not like that policy whatsoever.

But just seeing as a tactic

from a guy who's in the middle of of the fight for his life politically.

It is an interesting thing.

The left will do it too, and it makes me nervous what they will get out of it and what they will accomplish.

But it's an interesting tactic.

And it's worked, right?

I mean, every time he's made a sort of bold policy claim like this, it has wrestled the news cycle away from the Democrats almost immediately.

And I like it because you can actually nail it down.

People will hear that and they immediately go, oh, I like that.

Where, you know, the cat cat thing

was difficult.

Difficult.

It was a strategy to bring that up and have the media come out and say, oh, well, that's just hearsay.

And then he would say, okay, well, let's talk about real facts then.

Crime.

And that's the way that was supposed to lay out, but it got all tangled up and it just didn't work.

And, you know, there's nothing wrong with saying, you know, that, you know, people are reporting that they're eating cats, but you just don't spring that on people.

Most people didn't know that.

And so you're like, wait, what?

Yeah.

Now he's thinking people are eating cats.

What?

Right.

You have to kind of slow walk back to that particular narrative.

And

the thing about helping prisoners get trans surgery.

Yeah, that was a really interesting one because, you know, he sort of threw that out there.

And places like The New Yorker, who's famously

vigilant on their fact-checking.

Oh, very vigilant.

Mocked it and said, can you believe you said this crazy thing?

Time magazine came out.

Is it still a magazine?

Not really.

No, not really, just a website.

It's not really really.

Time.com came out and said, this is nuts and it's false.

And then had to post a correction saying, actually,

we mistakenly said this was false.

It's actually true.

She signed an ACLU

questionnaire.

And I think like the way to present that is, did you know the person here that she wants to be your president, she signed a questionnaire to the ACLU, which said that she wanted to provide your money to give sex change surgeries to prisoners and detained illegal immigrants.

What does that mean to you?

Do you think that money would be better off in your pocket or going towards trans surgeries for criminals?

If you kind of walk people through that, they then they have they have they have some reason behind it.

It doesn't sound like you're just pulling that out of the air.

And they have a way to check that.

Yeah, they can go check it.

And just a caller mentioned this the other day.

I've been saying it a bunch as well.

Donald Trump is not the guy necessarily that's going to come up with all the policy details on the fly and give you perfect sourcing and phrase everything the right way, which is not what he does.

He does a lot of things really, really well.

That is not one of them.

But put him in a position where he can say, and I can prove that it's on this site right now.

Go to kamalalies.net or whatever site they've got set up.

And just point people there with the links.

And if you have some sort of memorable thing, he's not required.

All he has to do is remember the website.

Point people there over and over and over again.

Let the media go fact-check those claims where you can put it up with all the proper sourcing and explanation.

I just, I don't understand how we're saying that.

How is it some stupid talk show host has to come up with this when they got all this?

They've got hundreds of millions of dollars going to this campaign.

Why isn't this stuff happening already?

I don't know.

And maybe, look, he's already won the presidency.

Maybe he's got much better ideas than we do.

But

it's frustrating as a viewer and someone who cares about the future of the country.

Because we are all so invested in this and we all see things.

And whether we're right or wrong, I don't know, but we all see things and go, oh, why not?

Why didn't they?

Here is, by the way, in 2019, Kamala bragging about her helping prisoners get trans surgery.

That they were standing in the way of

surgery.

For prisoners.

For prisoners.

And there was a specific case.

And when I learned about the case, I worked behind the scenes to not only make sure that that transgender woman got the services she was deserving.

So it was not only about that case, I made sure that they changed the policy in the state of California so that every transgender

inmate in the prison

would have access to the medical care that they desired and need.

And I believe it was not only, I know it was historic in California, but I believe actually it may have been one of the first, if not the first in the country, where I pushed for that policy.

Did you see the interviewer?

The very feminine interviewer?

Is that what you're talking about?

The dude in a dress?

What?

No.

She's not.

She's wearing pants.

Play not a dress.

Play it again.

I just love when the interviewer comes in.

It's like

in the way of surgery.

For prisoners.

For prisoners.

For the first time.

For prisoners.

Is that James Earl Jones?

Fall prisoners.

How are we supposed to take any of this seriously?

Seriously.

I mean,

it is like we are on a,

it's like we're on a,

well, I was going to say a funny episode of Saturday Night Live, and then I realized, no, this one isn't really funny.

So it's exactly like being in Saturday Night Live.

It is.

My gosh.

I've said more this last week and maybe the last two weeks.

If America can't figure this one out, we get what we deserve.

We deserve to be destroyed because we're insane.

We're absolutely insane.

How

I don't know.

We don't do this every day, son.

How?

I know.

I know.

We are talking about a situation in which a presidential candidate who is equal or maybe slightly ahead of this race right now is has

on camera advocated for taking the tax dollars of hardworking Americans and applying it to, as she just said, every transgender person in prison who wants surgery.

That is on camera.

It's in a questionnaire.

She's done it multiple times.

It's not one of those things you could say, oh, it's offhanded.

I misunderstood the policy.

She's done it multiple times.

Apparently, we are the ones that have to fact-check the claims,

not the mainstream media, and all their.

We have to do it.

And then when we do it, still to this moment, we are at 78 days since the woman has done a solo interview, 78 days.

And we still have had no one

get any up or down about whether she supports that policy.

Now, obviously, she's probably now going to say she no longer supports it.

Did you hear what she said?

What's the transition?

She said, I want to know the transition, the word I'm using specifically.

What was the transition?

She is a Californian through and through, right?

She said, just in the debate, nobody mentioned this.

Look, I'm not taking people's guns.

Yes, she is.

She said it over and over again.

I'm not taking anybody.

I'm a gun owner.

I immediately thought, good Lord, no.

She is?

How did that happen?

How did anyone give her a gun?

What kind of gun?

Does she carry it?

Where is it?

What is it?

That's a great thing, too.

Like,

I watch this stuff every day.

There's a lot of news going on.

I don't think I've ever heard in my entire life before the debate that she owns a gun.

Is that true?

Has anyone fact-checked that?

I think we need to have stricter standards.

I don't know if she can even loathe the gun.

I don't trust her with a gun.

And once again,

we actually do need a media.

Unfortunately, journalism is dead.

Yeah.

Glenn, we watch this stuff every day.

You might have remembered it.

You have a really good memory on some weird stuff.

I don't know.

I mean, you pull out any Woodrow Wilson clip and Glenn's going to know whatever it is.

But like,

I've done multiple shows about crazy policies of Kamala Harris.

I didn't even remember that she supported surgery for trans people in prison and illegal immigrants that have been detained.

I didn't even remember it.

I knew that she wanted it for prisoners.

She was very proud of that.

That she did that in California.

She was very proud of it.

I remember that.

I did not remember that she wanted it also for illegals.

I mean, when he said that

surprisingly, they want to give, they want to give houses to illegals.

Yes, why?

You don't have to make any payments.

You make no payments on that.

None.

You don't make payments on anything anymore.

You don't make payments on mortgages.

You don't make payments on student loans.

I keep doing it.

Why?

I'm an idiot.

I'm the stupid one.

Yeah, I know.

And I feel like there are millions of Americans who are like that.

I'm the idiot.

These people are coming across the border.

They're breaking the law and they're getting handouts from everyone while I also, I struggle, I go to work every single day to make these payments for what?

So that they can get rid of the student loans for everybody else after I've paid them off?

If I could pass myself off as Chinese or

Haitian or what, I would.

I would.

I'd go across the border and I'm like,

yes, I'm Indian.

I don't know.

Is that the right accent?

I would pass myself off as, because why not?

You get everything for free.

You know, Glenn, I've heard you can't go to a 7-Eleven without a slight Indian accent.

No, no joke.

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Let me me go to Woody in Ohio.

Do you live in Springfield, Woody?

No, sir.

I live about an hour and 20 minutes away from there.

Okay.

So what do you have to report?

One of my employees, well, I run a business about an hour and 20 minutes from there.

And one of my employees' sister runs a farm just outside of Springfield.

And they had to shut down the Champaign County

FFA and 4-H stuff two days early because of all of the migrant stuff that was going on with farm animals and whatnot.

What do you mean, all the stuff that's going on with farm animals and stuff?

Like, you know, like,

you know, like the beheading of cows and

goats.

I didn't hear any of that.

Can we get...

I'm going to put you on hold.

Will you talk to my producer and see if we can get your employees' sisters?

Right.

Like, we're a little bit more.

We've got a chain going on.

This is literally telephone yes uh the game telephone i'd like to talk to somebody who knows that that is it but knows it was there or is yeah it's a it's also a good specific claim right if that's true we should be able to confirm that so well not only that and then also too if nothing else if nothing's going on there then why did the wine just send 60 000 uh state troopers

to Springfield, which is more than the population of Springfield.

60,000

state troopers?

Yeah, we're gonna look some of this stuff up.

Hang on just a second with you.

Thank you very much.

I don't think Ohio doesn't have 60,000 state troopers, do they?

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today,

with the Prime Minister of England.

To say it's

suboptimal

might be an understatement, but we'll get into that here in just a second.

First, I want to finish up from where we were last hour on how our country is just being taken apart piece by piece.

And they're telling you they're doing it.

They're telling you what the goal is,

but they always deny it, even though it's all out in papers and it's all out on websites, their websites.

They won't, they'll always say that's a conspiracy theorist, but

we're now seeing these conspiracy theory

come true.

And it's been bothering me the last couple of days, and quite honestly, I'm so lazy.

I didn't grab Gibbons and look it up.

But if I remember right, wasn't the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, didn't it really start to come down once they opened the gate to the,

I don't know, the gates to the Mongrels or the Muskrats or the Haitians or whoever they let in?

I mean, I know this.

Wasn't that the beginning of the end?

They let everybody in and then they made everybody a Roman citizen.

And then Rome didn't mean any, citizenship didn't mean anything.

That sounds familiar, but I'm no expert on this particular thing.

That's where I was, too.

Yeah.

And so I decided to call somebody who actually knows because he's smart.

Spencer Clavin,

Claremont Review of Books Associate Editor and author of Light of the Mind, Light of the World.

Spencer, how are you, man?

I'm doing very well, Glenn.

Thanks for having me on.

Okay.

Again, I just have to say, talk down to me just a little bit.

Not too much, but just a little bit.

Am I right on that?

I'm trying to remember

one of the last straws.

I thought it was opening up the gates and making everybody citizens.

Okay, so not only are you right about this, you actually don't even need somebody like Gibbon to prove your point.

This is something that basically everybody, even the most liberal scholars of the Roman Empire and its history, nobody can deny that the Roman Empire fell apart because it lost its borders.

Its borders were effectively dissolved by tyrants, and especially by the guy I think you're probably thinking of as Caracalla, who was

in 212 AD.

Yeah, the Edict of Caracalla made everybody a citizen.

And this is the guy, one of the notorious tyrants of history.

Compared during the French Revolution to Louis XVI,

Gibbon calls him the common enemy of mankind.

So that'll tell you a little bit about the sorts of people that want to dilute the concept of citizenship.

They always make themselves out to be very magnanimous and generous and kind, whereas, in fact, there's always something in it for them, and that was no different in Rome.

So, Spencer,

if everybody knows this,

what possibly could be the reason to do this all across the Western world?

Well, I think, like with everything, you have to look for elite interests.

In Rome, the problem of citizenship is something they had going back even before the Empire to the days of the Republic.

And right from the jump there, when the Republic started to fall apart, it was because there wasn't enough land to go around.

The citizens and those who fought in the army were supposed to get certain amount of land that they could cultivate as private property.

But while they were away at war, the wealthy and the elites effectively conspired to do an end run around the law.

Why?

So that they could have cheap labor and vast tracts of land.

Caracalla, there are different theories about why he did what he did, but you don't have to look around too far for reasons why.

In fact, there are almost too many reasons why.

He would have been able to levy taxes on these new citizens.

He could have conscripted them into the army.

And all of this came at the expense, and this is important, it came at the expense of the people who were already Roman citizens.

Our word citizen comes from the Greek word kiwis, and so does our word city.

So this is a local thing originally designed for specific people who get particular rights, yes, things that they can do, like vote in elections, but also they get responsibilities.

You have to contribute to society and be committed and devoted to the idea of Rome, the project of Rome.

Once that starts to fall apart, you basically just have the rich and the strong trying to give out benefits packages, essentially, goody bags, to whomever they can get on their side so that they can grow their military and sustain the imperial machine.

And I think a lot of that we can see going on as well with some of our leaders, unfortunately.

Aaron Powell, so, I mean,

you're a historian.

You love history.

You study history.

How is this time period right now, the point where we're at right now, before this election, how is this going to be looked at by historians?

It's always hard to write history in the present tense, they say, but if you put a gun to my head and I had to make a guess, I would say this is going to be one of those moments where people look back and they either say,

how could they possibly have let it all go?

What went wrong?

What drove them so insane?

And there will be studies written of how we were led up to this point gradually over time.

Or

we'll look back and we'll say, this was a crisis like the ones that Rome had faced, like others had faced in the past, and we pulled back from the brink.

It's not too late, despite the dire situation.

It's not too late to do that.

We're not at edict of Caracalla territory just yet, although that's certainly what the open borders crowd and the Kamala Harrises and the Joe Bidens of the world would like.

But it's not yet the case that just anybody under American influence is an American citizen with all the rights and privileges that that

affords.

We're moving in that direction rapidly.

Yeah, you're right about that.

So I think we're at a major crossroads with this election.

So, what, I mean, now I'm going to ask you to predict,

and you feel free to back out and say, I didn't sign up for this, dude.

What do you see coming?

What does history teach you that is most likely coming?

Because I honestly, I can think of a million ways this falls apart.

I have a hard time finding that very narrow path, especially without God,

of where it comes together and we heal.

I mean, it's really important that you mentioned God, I think, and the Christian God specifically, whom the Romans, until later on in their history, did not worship, because that is something that makes us distinctive.

And you know, Glenn, you've asked me this question a couple times.

Are there any examples of people that pulled out of these kinds of crises?

And

it's hard because, in fact, when you end the concept of citizenship, when you destroy your borders, you have destroyed your country by definition.

So it's not like we're not flirting with the sorts of things that bring republics and indeed empires down.

But I will say that whereas I can't think of an example from history of a civilization that

wound back the clock, that undid these problems.

It is possible in history to correct course and move forward in the world that we live in

in a better direction.

And I think for us as Americans and as a nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, the key to that is our belief in the universal creation of man in the image of God.

Now that might sound a little ironic since I'm talking about closing down our borders and taking care of our citizens and the open borders crowd likes to make use of Christian slogans to pretend that they're loving their neighbors and they're loving everybody.

But we're limited human beings and the question in front of us is not how do we extend every benefit to the whole world.

It's not in our power.

The question is how do we love one another as American citizens?

And our superpower in this that the Romans did not have is racial assimilation.

If we're able to get a grip on our border, if we do well in this election and other elections going forward, then we can accommodate some of the things that have gone down the pike and have a better track record than any country in history at course correcting and recalibrating with exactly these sorts of issues.

But the first thing is we have to understand what we're about.

And that is not the world and not humanity in general, but America and the humans who live here.

What book are you writing right now?

I've just finished a book actually that's coming out in October called, you mentioned it, Light of the Mind, Light of the World, which I'm really excited for people to read.

It comes out in October.

And this is a story about the history of science told from a religious perspective, because I think people have a sense that there's just...

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So that's the book, and it'll be out in October.

Fantastic.

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Do me a favor.

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Because I want to have you on, but I want to be able to

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Yes.

You know, before I talk to you so we can have an intelligent conversation on it.

Spencer, thank you so so much.

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So Biden is meeting today in Washington with Prime Minister Starmer.

Who doesn't love Starmer?

I love him.

They're meeting over this whole thing about NATO wanting to

send

long-range missiles over to Ukraine.

Now, these

long-range missiles, they say, are just shy of Moscow.

Oh,

okay.

So it'd be like if Canada was lobbing missiles and they couldn't hit New York City, but they could hit Buffalo, you know,

they could hit Syracuse, Rochester.

I'm sure nobody would mind, right?

So

they're talking about sending them over.

And what Putin has said,

let me get this straight.

You're giving the NATO and the West is giving them intel.

They're giving them the targets.

They're giving them the weapons.

And now you want to send over long-range weapons.

Explain to me how we're not at war with the west

i can't

i can't i'm not a fan of vladimir putin but we are on the wrong side here and these clowns are going to get us no no no i i mean we're

here give me a clarification yeah we're on the side of war okay so you're not saying russia's the great nope and i'm not saying that

you know ukraine is bad or anything what i'm saying is this administration is on the side of war That is the wrong side.

We should be on the side of peace, bringing them together.

Instead of working towards the peace process, what do we have?

We have an administration working to up the war.

This is insanity.

Insanity.

And it's happening today.

And if people don't understand,

you've got to, I mean,

I've not been in this position before to where I think it is so clear that everyone can see it.

But you just have to take all of that hate that you have for the other side, all of that hate that has been drilled into you over and over again for the other side,

and take an honest look at what the results are of what people are doing.

I don't like Donald Trump.

He's very mean.

Okay.

Anybody who can lie to you the way Kamala did, relentlessly, over and over and over again,

you're not a good person if you can do that.

Donald Trump exaggerates a lot.

But it's nothing.

Like what is happening.

Lie.

Who is the author of all lies?

Who's the author of all chaos?

Do we have rule of law in this country anymore or do we have chaos?

Look at your own street in your own area.

Look at what's happening with the immigrants all over this country.

The government is paying, they paid with your tax dollars flights from Haiti to Ohio.

20,000 people they bought tickets for and sent them to the United States.

Did you vote on that?

Were you even informed on that?

Because when we first started to say they are taking people and putting them on planes in the middle of the night and they're shipping them, they said that's a conspiracy theory.

Then they finally came out and told us that's what they're doing.

And you're seeing the results.

So it's a lie to build chaos.

And

look,

I don't understand how

how the left, not the left, the Democrats, they voted for Democrats a lot of the time because they were for the little guy.

Two-thirds of all of the wealth is held now in this country by people who are Democrats.

One-third held by the people who support Donald Trump.

Which one's for the rich?

Which one's for big business?

Who's creating all of these public-private partnerships?

It's not the Republicans.

Who's the one trying to censor everyone?

It's not the Republicans.

Who is the one that is in big tech, right in bed with him?

It's not the Republicans.

Who's the one that's pushing for this war?

You have a Republican president so unique, so unique in Republican Party that shows the change, that is the guy guy who's stopping the wars was making the peace

and now you have the industrial complex the military industrial complex beating in the heart of every elite on the democratic side

war war war war war

what are we doing america honestly it's it it is time to sit our families down and say

look

we have been played We have been played, and we've been played very well.

We might have trouble with each other.

We might even be told to hate one another.

We were told to question and say that we were going to kill grandma if we didn't get the vaccine, wear the mask, and stay away for the holidays.

None of that was true.

All of that was a lie.

As they were putting COVID, sick people with COVID into nursing homes.

Hello, Tim Walls.

They were telling us we couldn't go if you felt well.

No,

they are dividing us.

It's evil.

It's got to stop.

Look at the facts.

This is the last exit.

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You know, we are really in an abusive relationship.

That's what it is.

And we've been beaten into our corners.

And we just thought for a long time, I think Republicans thought the GOP loves me.

They hate you.

Okay, they hate you.

They don't care about you at all.

The Democrats were beaten into, they're for the little guy.

They're just like me.

No, they don't.

They hate you.

They hate you.

Go ahead.

Speak out against any of their policies.

See how much they love you.

And that's abuse.

That is mental and emotional abuse.

If I speak out, I'm going to be called a racist, a bigot, a homophobe.

I'm going to be beaten down.

And I just don't want that anymore.

I just, you know, because it's my fault.

I guess I did let these things happen.

I have done some things that were wrong.

That's the thinking of somebody who is abused.

We're in an abusive relationship.

And when you are,

You know, somebody, your friend will come and say, you got to get out of this.

And you don't want to believe them.

No, no.

And you get angry at them does this sound like your family your friends you get angry at them and you're like no that's not true you don't know you're the problem you're the one he just does it he loves me he just once in a while does that uh-huh

we have to meet people where they are and understand that they are being abused and we were abused too.

We just somehow or another got out.

We got out.

I mean, because the abuser is the Democratic Party, just as much as the Republican

is the abuser.

Republican Party, they're not, I mean, they are better, but they're still abusers.

They still will, they hate us.

They don't do what they say they'll do.

They're not standing up for what you are.

We are a different group of people.

And that group of people is growing.

It's independent.

We're imperfect.

We were duped.

But we woke up.

I don't know how we woke up, but we woke up.

And there are other people waking up on their side.

You know,

have an intervention.

And just mention, not only with me, it's not just me, it's people all over the country that used to think like you and RFK and Alan Dershowitz.

Is there a bigger pillar of Democrats than Alan Dershowitz?

Elon Musk, don't you think he's pretty smart?

What is he seeing that you're missing?

You've got Tulsi Gabbard, Barry Weiss, he was with the New York Times,

Michael Schellenberger, he's not a liberal.

You've got James Lindsay, a professor from Portland University.

That's not Glenn Beck.

And what are all of them saying?

They're saying, I'm not a conservative.

I'm not on the bandwagon because I like Trump.

I'm just saying, you cannot vote for this party because it's an abuser and it's going to kill you.

That's the kind of conversation we have to have and

know that

you're going to pay a price for it and they're going to pay a price for it.

Jamie Mitchell, she is the founder and president of Gays Against Groomers.

And you want to talk about somebody who is really

taking it on the chin

and being a pariah.

Almost with everybody, it seems.

I mean, I'm kind of used to it because, you know, my faith,

we're the Jews of Christendom.

So I'm kind of used to it.

And,

but I don't know if it came as a surprise to her.

I imagine it didn't.

But she came out against grooming and saying, hey, this stuff that's going on in our schools, hello, wake up.

And there's a ton of gay people who feel that way.

So don't lump all gay people together, just like you don't lump all straight people together.

Jamie is with me now.

Hi, Jamie.

Hey, Glenn.

How are you?

How are you?

I'm very good.

I'm great.

I'm so happy to be on with you.

Yeah.

Tucker and I talked about you at the last

rally when I was doing that.

I don't know if you remember.

I saw that.

And I was totally shocked.

Yeah.

A bunch of people were like, oh my God, they just talked about you and Gazigan Ask Rumors on stage.

I'm like, no, they didn't.

And I went to look, and sure enough,

we're both big fans.

We're fans of,

you know what I'm a fan of, Jamie?

I'm a fan of anyone who can

stand with reason against their own click

and say, you know what?

My clique is wrong on this.

I'm still part of that group, but I'm not part of that part of that group.

And that takes

incredible

courage.

When did you decide to do this?

You said when?

Yeah.

And how?

So yeah, back in 2022,

you know, I already had a big platform myself over the years.

I started in 2017 with an account called The Gay Who Strayed to kind of like stand up and show that not all conservatives are straight white men.

You know, so

I was a conservative lesbian, so I made a platform that way.

It grew very large over the years.

And by 2022, you know, we start, we all started seeing the onslaught of videos coming out and the material in schools like the drag shows with kids the porn in schools children being you know cut up in the name of gender affirming care and uh I decided you know I had this platform I was like you know what I have to try and do something about this because all the gay people I know in my life and even trans people you know we were very much all of us very much against what's happening but the narrative is that all lgbtq plus plus plus people support this and that's simply not true.

It's just you know the narrative is what it is like you know the media controls the narrative for pretty much everything in this country and that was the narrative for us and so I felt you know there was a

all of all of my friends that are part of the community were speaking out individually against it but there was no unified voice.

So I was like, you know what?

All these straight people and these parents, they're being demonized for just wanting to protect their kids.

They're being called homophobic and transphobic and bigots.

And I was like, you know what, they're going to have a harder time doing that to us.

And we need to make our voices loud and clear that this is not okay.

You know, we're not going to, because this agenda is being pushed in our name.

It's affecting us personally as well.

You know, all people are assuming that we all support this, and that's not true.

So in 2022, I came up with the name Gays Against Groomers.

I was like, oh, that's going to get some attention.

That's going to ruffle some feathers.

And sure enough, it did.

And we basically just exploded overnight.

And I think that goes to show how needed and wanted our voices were in this fight because they hold more weight.

So ever since then, it's kind of been just, you know, I never expected it to get as big as it did.

But, you know, at three months after I created the organization, I was on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox before they let him go.

So, yeah,

and it's been incredible.

You know, the support has been

incredible, and we've been very successful.

So, you know, in just a little over two years, we've gotten quote unquote gender-affirming care for minors banned in over 20 states.

So, you know, we've helped, we've assisted in that greatly.

That is fantastic.

Were you surprised by all the pushback?

From, well, you know, we, Gays Against Groomers is a nonpartisan organization.

We have members from all over the political spectrum, but it's really sad that, you know, one party.

is pushing this agenda and one party is trying to stop it.

Everybody can probably guess the parties I'm talking about, which is which.

But you know, it's sad that the most pushback we get, and it is fervent, it is like rabid pushback.

You've been debanked, haven't you?

Oh yeah, yeah.

A few months after we launched, PayPal and Venmo banned us.

You know, I was expecting to we were we totally been banned from like fifteen or sixteen companies now.

Uh most social media, some uh we've had to switch merch printing providers three times,

constantly getting banned left and right.

But yeah, one day I woke up to an email saying that Gays Against Groomers was banned from PayPal and Venmo.

It happened simultaneously because PayPal owns Venmo.

And even me personally, not only is the organization banned, but I'm personally also banned from that.

And why do they say?

Well, they say that we violated, you know, their community standards or whatever, because what has happened is, even, I don't know if you've seen, but even our Wikipedia page has labeled us an anti-LGBT far-right.

How can you be?

It'd be like you being against yourself.

Exactly.

Like Martin Luther King running, you know, marching against black men.

So ridiculous.

But that just goes to show that that's the only attack these people have.

They can't defend their stances, you know, based on facts or science or logic.

All they have is calling people names and them calling us those things just goes to show that.

And it's absolutely ridiculous.

But yeah,

it's funny because we don't have a single straight person in the organization.

We're not anti-ourselves.

We just want children to be left alone.

That's all it is.

It's really simple.

It's really simple.

But what happens is, you know, Wikipedia has that.

And then the ADL, the SBLC, Media Matters, they all come out and label us a hate group.

And so these big companies, they base it off that as a reason to ban us

so it's just it's really it's sad you know I never first of all I never thought an organization like Gays Against Groomers would have to exist

in my wildest imagination I would have never predicted this is what my life would turn into or have to turn into you know and

so it's it's just it's it's unbelievable and it's really unbelievable that we're somehow the bad guys for just wanting to ensure that children grow up healthy and whole and not be chemically castrated with the same drugs given to pedophiles,

which is Lupron for your listeners that are not aware.

They call it puberty blockers.

That's actually not true.

It's a chemical castration drug given to sex offenders and also have their body parts, their healthy body parts amputated, you know, before they're old enough to drive a car.

It's just,

it's absolutely mind-blowing.

But somehow we're the bad guys.

I don't know.

And you pay for all of your trips everywhere and everything because you guys can't find a sponsor, right?

Nobody will sponsor you.

No.

Yeah, we have no large donors as of yet.

So all the money we have is raised by

our supporters.

We have almost a million followers now across social media platforms, which is incredible given how many times we've been banned.

You know, we've been banned from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter twice before Elon took over, and we've been reinstated on all of them somehow.

But, you know, I always think any day I'm going to wake up and it'll be taken away again.

Not X.

I'm not worried about X anymore, but the others.

But all of our funding comes from our supporters.

You know, our average donation is like $40.

And we have a very meager amount of funds in the bank,

you know, but we make it work.

It really just goes to show that if you have a dedicated group of people that are really passionate about this and you have a moral just cause, you can really make change.

I mean, it would be wonderful to have some serious funding because we have a lot of big plans.

Like we want to, we want to host events and travel more to show up to more places, but it's very hard.

But so we do what we can.

And yeah, that's basically how it's been going for two years.

So I'm hoping, you know, gays against rumors, we have a project 2025 too.

We want to get funding in 2025 and really, you know, take things to the next level.

So hopefully we can.

I want to talk to you again in 2025.

But I urge her story sounds like every Tea Party story I heard 15 years ago.

Everybody.

We all went through this.

We can't get anybody to fund us.

We can't get it.

We're all just doing what we can.

I'm telling you,

I think Jamie and Gays Against Groomers is vital to this fight.

And I would urge you.

to

give whatever you can to gaze against groomers at gazeagainstgroomers.com.

Make a donation, and I'm bound and determined to find some large donations for you, Jamie.

So we'll talk to you in 2025.

That would be amazing.

And Glenn, I just appreciate your support so much.

This issue is the most important issue facing us.

I mean, facing for sure, kids, you know, this generation is

really on the chopping block.

Think about what it's going to be like for those kids when they grow up.

I mean,

I mean, their entire, I don't know about you, but the thought of having to live with

the consequences of a decision I made when I was 11, 12, 13 for the rest of my life is absolutely mortifying.

You know, and it's just a phase, but this phase, you know, all kids go through phases.

It's like everybody's known this for all of, all of time up until five minutes ago.

You know, but these phases leave kids

you know, sterilized and with missing body parts.

It's just horrific.

It's, it's the stuff of nightmares, truly.

I remember my mom and dad saying to me at one point, don't get a tattoo.

Don't.

You know, wait until you're much older if you want a tattoo because you're going to regret it for the rest of your life.

And

this makes tattoos look like, you know, you tattoo your eyes and your whole face, and it would be better for life than what they're suggesting you do.

Jamie, thank you.

True.

God bless you.

Thank you so much.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

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that he was on the first list of the 50 most influential rabbis in the United States.

He is a good friend.

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Rabbi Lapin, how are you?

Couldn't be better and wonderful to be with you.

I know.

How long has it been since we've seen each other?

I hate to think it's a year or two.

Yeah, it's got to be.

Yeah, maybe even more than that.

So

have we even talked since October 7th?

No, we haven't spoken since October the 7th.

How's it going?

Susan and I were there in Israel during that time.

We stayed till the end of the month.

And

we just actually got back from Israel two days ago.

Difference between right after and now?

The most

fascinating thing is

the

ever-present

tension between normality and tragedy.

And so

it's perfectly possible, and again,

because we know so many people,

you go to a funeral of a soldier in the morning, and then that night, you're a guest at a wedding of somebody getting married and starting a new family.

And you cry at the funeral and you dance at the wedding.

What is the replacement rate?

What is the birth rate of Israelis?

That's a fascinating question

because

in a way that baffles most demographers, Israel is a modern Western democracy, fully industrialized, highly technological.

And we are hitting way down in America about 1.6.

And of course, as you know, 2.1 is the absolute bare minimum replacement level.

If you're not hitting 2.1, you've got a real problem.

You're out.

And so America is about 1.6, 1.63.

Israel is

on whole, the country as a whole is 3.2.

Holy cow.

The Jewish population is about 4.2

and the Arab population slightly less.

Wow.

Yes.

And by the way, you feel it there, you know, and as you well know, but I mean,

there's kids everywhere.

And you go to a restaurant at 9 o'clock at night.

Yeah.

And a quarter of the tables have kids at them or a baby and a stroller.

Yeah.

It's a little like being in Utah.

It is.

Yes.

Kids are everywhere.

And I mean that totally positively because what kids do is create an aura of optimism.

There is a tomorrow.

So there is

a lot of concern, and rightfully so.

I mean, I heard Elon Musk talk about this recently, saying we've got to have children.

Yes.

We have got to start having children.

And meanwhile, that old relic, Paul Ehrlich at Stanford University, still worries about overpopulation because not a single one of his predictions came anywhere near true.

These people are so Malthusian.

Yes, I mean, that's quite clear.

I mean, that's the right word for it.

Bill Gates.

Oh, my gosh.

When he's talking about, you know, we've got to reduce the population, reduce the population, and, you know, we'll have some vaccines and we're going to do some things.

And

when we reduce the population,

it's terrifying.

Yes.

Terrifying these people.

So what is the difference?

Why are we going down?

And the whole Western world, and yet Israel is a Western leader.

Why aren't you going down?

Yeah.

So first of all, let's banish the sham explanations and the bogus explanations

because this is the first thing that everybody hears and it's absolutely not true.

One explanation is that as women become more educated and affluent, they realize there are options to them.

to marriage and family.

That is the...

It's a little insulting.

Oh, it's a lot insulting.

Yes, absolutely.

It's a little like black people don't know how to find a place to get a driver's license.

Yeah, very much like that.

Or Susan Lappen

somehow lost her brains and lost her qualifications because she has a number of kids.

So that's one explanation.

The other explanation is that government isn't doing enough.

It's not taxing people enough so it can spend enough money on childcare.

That's why people aren't having children.

Childcare.

Right.

And so

the United States government, as well as governments all around the world, South Korea has been very big on this.

Hungary has been big on this.

Well, why don't we just give women money to have children?

That should solve the problem.

If this is, after all, about money.

Yeah, right, then let's solve it.

Right.

Would you be shocked to hear that it does absolutely nothing?

No.

It does absolutely nothing.

Right.

This is another government program.

I'm not shocked to hear that it didn't work.

So that's not the explanation.

And what is the explanation?

can I guess can I guess I'd love you to yes

loss of hope in tomorrow okay well I may as well go home now oh is it right yes no that's exactly the point you see it's equations the nice thing about math equations is you can read them left to right or right to left two plus two equals four and four equals two plus two

similarly in in these demographic areas it also works like that for instance the presence of children creates optimism and hope and confidence for the future.

And reading the other way, if you have optimism and confidence about the future, then children come.

It's as simple as that.

I hear people all the time say, I would never bring my child.

I walked by somebody and I heard them say,

they were talking about children, and we were just out on the street, and I didn't know them.

And they said, I would never bring a child.

And I turned around and I said, do.

It's the greatest joy of your life.

And they're going to make it.

And so are we.

And there was probably more reason for your parents not to have you than there's for you not to have.

In others, you want to talk about economic affluence, you're probably better off than your parents.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, what is the cure for it?

Well, that, of course, is difficult.

And because

for many, many people, the disease is preferable to the cure.

In other words, the benefits of population hit downstream, but

if you like, the inconveniences of children hit right now.

And so it's difficult because no matter what you promise for down the road, it's still very much an incentive for people to say, you know what, tomorrow will take care of itself on somebody else's watch.

But, you know, my wife and I like being dinks, you know, double income, no kids, we're good to go.

And so that's one part of it.

The other part of it, of course, is that feminism has been such a roaring success, persuading women that career has to be followed first.

And then there's going to be plenty time.

You can always freeze your eggs.

And it's a cruel hoax that's been played on all the many women who spent a fortune doing just that and are now realizing that the likelihood of a successful implantation is pretty low.

Is there a time in history that a society was as anti-women as we are while claiming it's pro-women?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So, you know,

there were times in Cuba, there was certainly during the Soviet Union, because this is essentially a socialist impulse.

It's a socialist impulse

to do everything possible to shatter the nuclear family, because the biggest obstacle to governmental tyranny is a strong family structure and religion.

Those two things.

So not surprisingly, early on in the manifesto, religion and

family and of course one of the foundational principles,

the buttressing of a family is private property so that a man can support his wife and his children.

He doesn't need to depend on the government and become an impotent dependent.

So private property has to go, family structure has to go, and religion has to go.

So I keep holding out that, I mean, I keep looking at things and think, well,

we're not just getting away from God and shunning him.

We've dragged him back to the town square and we're mocking him openly.

That doesn't end well, usually.

But I keep coming back to, you know, what if I find 50 men?

And I know, I know hundreds of really good people.

What do you see coming our way?

Do we have well, Glenn, go back to 1980.

It's quite a while ago, 50 years ago.

But

how many hotel rooms, what percentage of American hotel rooms had a Bible in the hotel room?

I would imagine a ton of them.

They said 98%.

So that means they don't want to say 100, but it was pretty much ubiquitous.

Bibles you found in hotel rooms.

Now,

what percentage of American hotel rooms have a Bible?

36%

in this period of time.

That's kind of a good mathematically defining marker for what's happening in America.

Have you been over to Europe?

I have.

Not just with the Jews, but everyone.

It seems as though Islam is poised to take Europe soon.

Am I reading that wrong?

You know, religious people tend to have longer memories than secular people.

And the reason is that for secular people, nothing is more important than the moment.

Today is it.

Yesterday, you know, pull down the statues, who cares?

Right.

Tomorrow, unborn children, forget about it.

We're mostly interested in right now.

But by contrast, people who are religious, and this extends to Muslims as well, obviously,

do care about it tomorrow.

There is a redemptive future down the road.

But we also care about the past very much.

And so

for Muslims, this has been a long struggle between Christianity and Israel.

And it's not fashionable to speak in terms of titanic cultural clashes.

That's exactly what it is.

And Muslims do have long memories.

I don't believe that it was an accident that the terrorist attacks, what, 23 years ago now, occurred on the 11th of September because that was the date of the last defeat of the Muslim armies outside the gates of Vienna in 1683.

That was the 11th of September that the Christian armies came down and crushed the Ottomans and

that was the furthest Muslims ever got into Europe.

But ever since that time, they dream, understandably, because they dream of a Sharia world, an entire world that kneels before the Prophet.

And it is also a religion that believes in force.

I don't know much about Muslim theology, but I know a lot about Muslim behavior over the last

800 years or so.

So,

yeah,

this is

a takeover of Europe.

They have much to be proud of because they've really come very far, very quickly.

Yeah, very quickly.

I couldn't imagine this.

I couldn't imagine 20 years ago us having this conversation and saying, you know, it looks like it's going to be lost to Islam.

You know, it's only a matter of time.

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Family good?

Yeah, family's really good.

Thank you.

Rabbi,

we're nearing the anniversary of October 7th.

I just saw an amazing,

I guess, press conference with Benjamin Netanyahu.

I think it was last week, and he was standing in front of a map, and he was showing why they have to take that corridor right by Egypt back.

And I thought to myself,

that is going to be tough, and that's going to require going in and really being tough again.

And the rest of the world is just not against, not for it at all.

I don't understand it.

Well, I do, because I've seen the history of

Jewish people and the way people just go insane after a while.

He's having trouble

in his own country, is he not?

He is, yes.

What is the argument for and against him?

I can't really tell you.

I'm not an expert on Israeli politics.

And

I don't feel embarrassed confessing that because I don't think there are too many people who actually understand

Israeli politics.

But in a way,

you know, it's not a bad analogue to see the hostility towards Donald Trump in America over the last eight years as

an analogue for the hostility towards Netanyahu.

It's remarkably similar.

Are you split as a people in Israel?

Are they split on

we got to stop or we got to go forward?

You know, again,

it's really interesting.

It's a binary situation in the sense that

there is definitely a split over the politics.

There's a split over the very badly needed

reform to the justice system.

The Israeli Supreme Court, in the absence of a constitution, has become a powerful force, not an influence, but a force towards socialism and the left.

So it needed it.

And so, yes, there is.

But at the same time, when you move down

a few rungs into the ordinary part of society,

No,

there is strong unification.

It feels really quite splendid.

It's really strange how all of our countries are being controlled by elites.

Yes.

And they're arguing about things that the average person is just not arguing about.

And it's happening in all Western countries.

Well, in exactly the same way that

the 28th verse of the Bible, which says, and God said to them,

and the incorrect translation of the Hebrew is, be fruitful and multiply.

The correct translation is, be fruitful and raise and educate your children responsibly.

Don't just have them.

Because that creates its own set of problems.

Yeah.

Right?

Because you've got really three responses to the biological mandate of reproduction.

Number one, you can ignore it, as many, many, many people are doing.

And it's tragic, particularly women who suddenly wake up in their late 30s and they discover that the options of now

getting married, the options are certainly well diminished.

So ignoring it is one.

And the second one is essentially what I call animalistic, which is how reproduction and the perpetuation of the species works in the jungle.

And that is it just, you know, males impregnate females and then vanish.

Unfortunately, large parts of our population actually operate this way now as well.

And so you've got huge numbers of children raised without a father who don't even know who their father is.

So that's the second model.

And the third is Genesis 1.28.

Which is

have children and raise them correctly and responsibly.

Yeah, that would be, it seems so obvious and so simple.

And we've all kind of failed on that one a little bit, I think.

Yep.

Rabbi, I love you so much.

Thank you so much for coming by.

Thank you.

It's good to see you.

Rabbi Daniel Lappin.

You can find him and his teachings at rabbidaniellappin.com.

Rabbidaniellappin.com.

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Alex Jones?

Yes.

Glenn back.

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He was 31 years old.

He leaves behind his wife, Stephanie, his one-year-old son, Ryan, and his brothers and sisters at the NYPD family.

At his funeral, his wife said, this is devastating devastating to us and senseless.

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You know, yesterday was

a pretty big deal happened yesterday.

Can anybody name it?

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

I saw that Caitlin Clark liked the endorsement of Taylor Swift against Kamala Harris that we're talking about.

Yeah, and she's wearing that shirt.

No, that's not what I'm talking about.

The first private spacewalk happened yesterday.

Oh.

It's a big deal.

Whatever.

Let me just get some cat memes loaded here real quick.

I mean, that's a big deal.

It should be a big deal.

Watch this.

This is SpaceX in the new, brand new SpaceX uniforms.

They apparently don't have heaters or oxygen in the capsule, so they have to wear these the whole time.

But what happened to him?

SpaceX,

back at home, we all have a lot of work to do, but from here...

Earth served looks like a perfect world.

that was the hordes of space that have just opened up and sucked the fake noise one

single-handed mobility demonstration

and there's

a private citizen

going in leave it leave it up

uh that is coming out he paid for it i think he's a billionaire he paid for this

Which I kind of like.

I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be so concerned about the Boeing astronauts if they were like billionaires that paid to go up.

You're like, yeah, you know, you rolled your,

you had to, you had a good run.

You had a good run and you rolled the dice and you lose.

So that is the first time we have done that privately.

And they're trying to get this guy.

They're trying to get Elon Musk.

It's insane.

You got to say, too, like, one of the, it's got to feel so good to him.

that NASA literally can't do any of this stuff without him.

None of them.

They want to, I mean, the the government wants to divorce itself from Elon Musk so badly, but the whole space system, our space program at this point, is basically SpaceX.

And also the electric cars thing.

They can't divorce him from that either.

And let's be honest about it, every single one of these people complaining about Elon Musk is doing it on X.

Yeah.

They can't get away from him, even though they want to so badly.

That's got to feel really good for Elon.

And it's got to feel really good for us, too.

And the other thing is, is is he's always giving free satellite service to places like, you know, the jungles of the Amazon.

Not to mention Ukraine.

Ukraine.

Brazil.

Yeah.

I mean,

this guy is

really doing a lot of great things for freedom of speech, especially.

But also, have you heard this word progress?

Yeah.

And

the internet service is amazing, too, because it's not just him giving it to them.

It's the only way they could possibly get it.

He's created an entire system of satellites rotating around the Earth that are giving internet to anyone who wants it anywhere in the world.

And a lot of times he also gives it away for free.

Like the giving it away for free is like a hundredth on the list of how amazing that project is.

Are you surprised that more people didn't go,

you know, Elon, Elon said we should really watch out.

You know, I'm not changing my politics.

I'm not a Republican.

I'm not a conservative.

I'm a little to the left.

But run for your sweet, sweet lives from Kamala Harris.

Are you surprised that,

I mean, maybe it is.

Maybe it is and you just don't hear about it.

But I mean, I would just think that there would be a lot of people who would be like, okay, hang on.

There's been a lot of people coming out.

And then there's people that are leaving the other party and coming to us, but it's Dick Cheney and people like that.

I don't think that's very good.

Well, they got multiple Cheney family members.

Yeah.

You got to be honest.

Yeah.

And they got Adam Kinzinger.

Yeah, he's great.

I mean, so they're loaded.

There's no doubt about that.

I mean,

but you can't look at Alan Dershowitz and Elon Musk like you look at Kinzinger

or even Dick Cheney if you're a Democrat.

Totally different.

I think they have

this is a slow transition for them.

I mean, if you talked about Alan Dershowitz 20 years ago,

they would say this.

I mean, 10 years ago.

But like, he's been supporting Trump on constitutional issues for a long long time.

He did with Clinton.

And every time we talked about it, he was like, no, I'm a big, I voted for Biden.

I'll vote for him again.

I know, but I'm saying that, like, I think they had dismissed him a while ago because he didn't align with the party.

He didn't go.

He wouldn't

not provide someone a

defense.

He kept to his principles.

Yes.

Right.

Elon Musk is a little bit different, I think, than that.

I mean, I'm not accusing him of abandoning principles.

I just think that

he's had more of a conversion.

I don't know that Dershowitz has really had a conversion.

I think he's just stayed where he was and the party went insane.

I mean, I think Musk has moved on a lot of these things.

He's always been a free market guy.

He's always been a guy who wants little restriction on business.

He's always had some libertarian slash conservative sort of leanings.

But he,

I mean, you know, you go back 10 years with Elon Musk.

He's not talking about the border or anything nearly as much.

Like that was not, he has adopted a lot of conservative views over that time, and they have slowly ostracized him through that process.

I think, though, he's changed because

he sees the damage that's being done.

Where, you know, in 2016, the border was out of control.

Donald Trump brought it back into balance.

You know, we always have gone back and forth.

It wasn't like this.

It's never been like this.

Yeah.

Look, I think it was a wise awakening by Elon Musk.

I'm not criticizing it, obviously.

I think it's not only true because it was true back then, but it's become so much more obviously true over this time that it's only avoidable if you are one of those

cordon-off partisans where like you just can't look at the other side.

But they all have something in common, and that is the biggest problem they have is just the corruption and evil that is coming from the party.

They all say that.

The party is not who they say they are.

They're not going on correct principles.

They're absolutely out of control.

You know, I think they'd all go back if it was a regular Democratic Party, but it's not.

And they know it.

And they're like, you can't, this is evil.

You got to get away from this.

And is the, let me ask you this, Gillian.

You know history.

You've got nine zillion documents across this parking lot that explained basically everything that's ever happened in American history and so many other nations.

Has there ever been a party that has moved like the Democrats have over the past 20 years and regained normalcy?

No.

But there's never been a country that went this far and regained normalcy either.

That's not positive.

That's not positive.

Can we leave?

How close are we in the world?

But we are a different nation.

We're a different people.

We're not geared like everybody else.

You know, we're not Romans.

We're not Germans.

We're Americans.

that,

you know, that

don't take this kind of crap, or at least never have.

And I think a lot of us were like, oh, geez, okay, I understand who America, much of America is now after COVID, but it's going to require us to stand and help each other.

And

there's a possibility, never been done before, but there's a real possibility that Americans will be the first to do it.

You know, because look,

look at the people that are coming to our side.

They believe in something and they believe in something positive.

The left only knows how to destroy, to separate, to destroy our businesses, our families, our institutions, our churches, our faith.

They don't have anything to rally around except destruction.

We have a ton to rally around.

And I think when people realize, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

What do you mean you're taking this?

What do you mean I can't do that?

What are you talking about?

Most people have not opened their eyes wide enough to see what's just over the horizon.

I mean, it's like a herd of buffalo.

You can see the smoke.

You can hear the hoofbeats, but so many people are just ignoring it.

No, it must be wind back there and drummers.

No,

it's a herd of buffalo that are coming over the hill.

And once they actually see it, it might be too late for some of them to get out of the way, but you know, we still can get in the wagons, yeah,

and get out of the way.

When we come back, I want to play one clip from our

podcast.

There is one guy who will absolutely be remembered in history, and I think he'll be remembered in American history much more likely than I would be.

And his name is Alex Jones.

Alex Jones has,

I mean, he has been around saying things that have stirred the pot and made a lot of people very angry.

And a lot of people look at him and say he's a hero.

Look at what he predicted and how he predicted it.

And as he says in the podcast, he didn't predict them.

He just took their words and took them seriously.

That's exactly why I've been able to do things as well.

You read their words and you're like, no, let's take them seriously.

It was a fascinating hour and what, 15 minutes with

Alex.

Yesterday he came in the studio.

It's an interview that neither of us ever thought we would have.

And because he's a figure in history, I wanted to make sure somebody asked him

the questions that will have to be answered by historians.

And that is, who are you?

Where did this come from?

How did you get here?

And then also some of the stuff in the past, like his trip to the Bohemian Grove.

I would never have believed that he went to the

Bohemian Grove if I hadn't been in touch with John Ronson,

who used to be with the BBC and went with him to the Bohemian Grove.

Yeah, I know.

I remember you talking to him about this because, you know,

he didn't believe him.

He was mocking him about this thing even existing and actually went on a trip to him and snuck in to the Bohemian Grove.

And you talked about that.

He talked about it yesterday.

I'll give you a clip in just a minute.

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From podcast episode 227, The Untold Story of Alex Jones, which drops tomorrow wherever you get your podcast, listen to this.

Okay, it's a 2,700-acre redwood grove in the most beautiful place in America, Sonoma County.

It's about

15 miles west of Santa Rosa, and it's on the Russian River, and it's just, it's a huge, uncut redwood grove, just as big as the ones you see in the national parks.

Wow.

So it's a gorge with redwood trees at one entrance, and the other end

exit isn't an entrance or exit.

It's just a cliffside over the Russian River.

And they've got over 100 camps in it.

Some are big and nice, depending on how elite you are.

They have like the chalet where world leaders and royalty go up on the hill.

But they're all basically log cabins and open bars.

And really, it's a big art thing.

At the time, I went with the sensational stuff of the occultic stuff in the ritual that they do on the middle of July every year on, I guess it's called Midsummer's Eve or whatever.

And that's what blew up with the evangelical Christians and stuff.

And I am a Christian.

And definitely it's occultic and there's vibes of that everywhere.

But really, Mark Twain founded it in the 1880s, 1870s.

And then President Taft started going there by railroad.

And then the Republican establishment took it over.

And so there was kind of a Germanic, druidic

spin-off of Skull and Bones that kind of took it over through the Republicans and Skull and Bones members.

And so it kind of has that seal on it of the Skull and Bones, Germanic mystery school, hyper-Masonic, super secret,

inner Masonic stuff.

But really, it's a thousand members and a thousand guests.

And when I was there, I mean,

I saw Danny Glover from a distance.

I saw Clint Eastwood and I didn't run up because there's security everywhere.

And I only snuck in,

I snuck in during the day, went around the security in the woods.

They beef it up a lot now.

But people get in easily.

Not now.

It's really beefed up, but they always catch you because people, reporters,

there's been hundreds of articles.

They always walk and start asking questions.

And they go, well, who are you with?

What are you doing?

I didn't do that.

I snuck in,

tried to just go sit out in one of the outside areas and not be noticed.

And

Ronson thought it was a joke, but he had an insider that was a member.

And so Ronson snuck in.

After he saw me get in, he went in with the member that had all the code words and all the stuff as a guest, but not as an official guest.

And then Ronson had me sign a contract, but later he talked about it, so I can.

He said, we, for liability, can't shoot the footage.

And we've seen you shoot some hidden footage, a little DV can and a fanny pack.

They didn't have little tiny cameras back then, as you know, for kids out there.

And I had to climb up on the edge of a redwood, you know, knot route and kind of get above the people and shoot it.

That's why it's all canted and the cameras falling over and things.

But it's still dramatic footage.

And so I got in,

tried to keep to myself,

had sheriff's deputies and secret service twice while I was just sitting over an overlook and

over in the woods, just at a table.

I even brought a book with me, so it looked like I was just hanging out.

They're like, who are you with?

What's going on?

I'm like, and I had enough of the inside stuff that I'd read in some of the literature.

I said, I'm with the Hillbillies because that's a Texas-style camp where the bushes go.

He goes in to talk about the rituals

in a very credible way,

talks about how he hid underneath a porch until the sun started to go down and what he saw.

And if it wasn't that I know John Ronson, who is a former BBC reporter,

who went because he thought Alex Jones was nuts and was like, okay, I'm going to go to the Bohemian Grove with you.

And then John, I talked to John years later and he's like, Glenn, it's absolutely true.

It's like,

it's there and we got in.

And it's an amazing, amazing story.

But Alex posted last night, said it's the most important interview that he's ever done because, as he said to me, no one's ever asked these questions of me.

Tomorrow it drops.

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