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Stew.

I don't think we have the answer on whether geese and swans and

cows are being eaten at the state fair, cats being eaten in Springfield, Ohio.

And we'll never know if they're tasty until we do eat them.

Right, exactly right.

And we need Taytay to come in and save the kitties.

Anyway, Jamie Mitchell is also on the program talking about how all, you know, how gays against groomers came to be and how much I think they have in common with the tea party of around 15 years ago.

Daniel Lapin is is in the studio to

discuss a bunch of stuff, but somehow or another we stumbled onto fertility

and the fertility rates going down everywhere in industrialized countries except for Israel.

Why?

And what is the meaning behind it?

Why are we not having kids?

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Most likely there was a time in your life when you, you know, you weren't having to deal with the aches and pains that you have today.

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I'd like to hear.

I mean,

I don't think they're eating cats,

but there is voodoo in Haiti, and they take that very seriously.

And I think cats and cat bones are part of that voodoo thing.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I can't believe we're talking about this.

We do know that there was a woman who ate a cat in Ohio.

It was just in a different part of Ohio, and it was someone born in Ohio.

Good old American.

Yeah.

We got them.

We got good people here too.

We got good old cat eaters.

But like, this is the point, right?

We know we have crazy people in America.

It's like our family.

Everybody's got a crazy person in their family.

And we understand that we have, we have a whole meme about Florida man, right?

Like, everyone knows there's plenty of crazy people inside the United States, good old Americans, red, white, and blue, nut jobs.

We got it.

We have to deal with them every day.

The point is, let's not import more.

Let's not bring more crazy people into our country.

What do you say?

I think maybe we should be really careful about the people we add to this very, very interesting stew we have brewing here in this country.

What could possibly go wrong?

No one's saying everything that's bad happens because of immigrants.

No, no.

We've got plenty of nut jobs.

Half of the country is going to vote for Kamala Harris, for God's sake.

We know we have nut job people here in America.

We do.

The point is, let's not add to the issue.

Well, I don't know.

It makes life interesting.

You know what I mean?

At least I look at it and I'm like,

you know, who knew?

Who knew knew we were going to have people that eat cats here, you know?

Yeah.

It's funny, though.

You never know.

You get up every morning, you're like, spin the wheel.

What's going to happen?

What's going to happen next?

Now, I was fascinated to see all of the reporting on the cat thing.

And they're like, without evidence, you know, this was said without evidence.

I mean, that's not really true.

Right.

Like, that doesn't mean that everybody online is nailing the facts of the story correctly.

Right.

But, like, I would say say that people devouring cats, American or not, in a country which at the top of it is the Biden-Harris administration, still notable, right?

It's still kind of like, wow, what country do we live in where people are devouring cats

or people think people are devouring cats.

Even that is enough.

That's enough.

You know, we have lots of,

we know

there is a picture of a guy walking down down the street with a dead goose.

We don't know the story behind that.

That was, by the way, in Columbus, I think, Ohio, not in Springfield.

And he could have been, he may not have been.

He might have been walking down the street, and somebody was up in an upper window, and he was like, hey, boy, what day is it?

Well, it's Christmas, he said.

Right in here, go, you know, that big goose in the window, go buy it for me.

That could have happened.

It could have happened.

We don't know.

We don't know.

We know, we do know that there was a 911 call about Haitians Haitians grabbing geese.

That is actually, that one's been proven to be accurate.

Now, we don't know if the claim was accurate, but we know the call was made.

So to say without evidence is a stretch.

I want to go there.

I want to go to Springfield.

My guess is you're not going to find

cat carcasses all over the park, all over the sidewalk.

It's going to be like, you know, those elephant graveyards?

It's going to be like that.

Just cat graveyards.

Yeah, perhaps.

Another thing we do know, though, by the way, about Springfield and the situation that has happened is that it has stressed the schools in the area.

It has stressed

the medical facilities.

Medical facilities.

The police.

The other one that's big is, and this has been admitted by tons and tons of people, is I love the way that they put this.

Haitians have a different driving culture.

That's what they said.

A different driving culture.

Really?

Which means they are apparently crazy drivers, many of them.

Have you ever been to Haiti?

Have you ever driven?

Definitely never been to Haiti and never, ever, ever want to go to Haiti.

I have been.

Describing that as a different driving culture?

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

It's insane.

Is it?

It is insane.

Because the roads are so horrible.

Everybody's going wherever they want.

No traffic signals.

No stop signs.

And again, that's fine in your country if that's the way you want to run it.

But apparently that has put a lot of people people in actual danger.

Did they just take the, did they take the driver's test or did everybody just get a driver's license?

I think we just give them out like handy.

I think we do.

We put him in

gum in trading cards.

That's how I think we do with a driver's license.

Have you heard Christopher Ruffo's breakdown of what's happening here?

Yes, I did actually go.

It is unbelievable.

Let me just...

give you his

thread on this.

Story begins in 2021 when the Biden-Harris administration signed the American Rescue Plan Act into law.

What was the American Rescue Plan Act, Stu?

What was that again?

That was to rescue.

That was the one that was to rescue us from the pandemic that was basically overall.

Correct.

Right.

And maybe the central cause of the inflation problem.

Yeah.

That was the one that really hissed.

I mean, the Inflation Reduction Act was also part.

There's a bunch of stuff that was part of it.

But that one in particular was really, really talented.

So we were told the American rescue plan act was to help rescue america no they allocated 3.8 billion dollars to colorado the city of denver drew on this reservoir of funds to launch its migrant resettlement and housing program the city in turn funneled more than five million dollars to two left-wing ngos

Vivi Wellness and Papagayo, to secure housing for thousands of Venezuelan immigrants.

Now, let me ask you: how is it I wasn't on this memo?

You know what I mean?

Were you on the memo?

Did you get the alert?

I was not, no.

Yeah.

Did Mercury One?

Mercury One never knew that all this money was available just to relocate Venezuelans, what was it, three years ago.

Didn't know that.

Didn't know that.

We just assumed that the,

you know, the act to rescue America

was

something that was going to rescue America, not Venezuelans.

Okay, these organizations are run by Yoli Casas

and somebody else, two Venezuelan immigrants who do not appear to have any experience in large-scale migrant resettlement.

Okay,

so who gave this money to them?

Much of the funding was directly tied to ARPA, A-R-P-A, through the Migrant Support Grant Program.

I didn't know we had a Migrant Grant Support Program, did you?

Yoli Casas, who runs Viva Wellness, said that the flow of government funds was so abundant that she was writing thousands of checks to pay for migrants.

She claimed to have written $350,000 in checks in a single week, all heavily subsidized by you.

These NGOs, in turn, work with the landlords to place the migrants in housing, including a large number of contracts with CBZ management, which operated the three apartment complexes in Aurora at the center of the Venezuelan takeover scandal.

We spoke with a former CBZ employee who, on the condition of anonymity, explained how the scheme worked.

Representatives from Papagayo arranged hundreds of contracts with CBZ to place migrants in the Aurora apartments.

Soon, they were up to 80% full of Venezuelans.

Hmm.

It's a booming business, according to the employee.

Papagayo arranged hundreds of contracts with property managers.

The NGO provided up to two months of rental assistance as many migrants did not have or one were unable to open bank accounts.

Within six months, according to the employee, approximately 80% of the residents of these buildings were Venezuelan.

The employees also noted the building saw gang activity and violence.

What?

The employee, however, alleges these agreements were made on false false pretenses.

To convince the hesitant employee to accept the migrants, Papagayo made assurances that the tenants had stable jobs and income with limited English and facing a minimum six-month wait for work permits through many, though many migrants were ineligible for legal employment, they struggled to find stable jobs and ultimately all fell behind on the rent.

No!

You gotta be kidding me.

The result was chaos.

We have obtained a confidential report which alleges, according to the witness interviews, that the apartment saw a string of crimes including trespassing,

assault, extortion, drug use, illegal firearm possession, human trafficking, and sexual abuse.

Oh.

Read the full story about the federal funds driving Aurora migrant crisis exclusively on the City of Aurora's City Journal.

So, Elon Musk posts right after this, concerning.

Yeah, yeah,

I think maybe a little bit

concerning.

And here's what's really concerning.

The idea

of the Bubba effect.

People don't like it when the government is the problem.

And when the government mocks or belittles them or actually accuses them and says, no, you're the problem.

No,

no,

I'm not.

I was talking to Tucker Carlson the other day and he said to me,

the problem is

that

the lies now

are much different.

Usually lies have a little bit of truth in them.

And he said they no longer have truth in them.

In fact, they're the exact mirror opposite of

truth and the way lies usually work.

He said, you know, you have a kid and you say, did you eat the, you come downstairs, you open up the Orioles and they're all gone, but they're back into the closet.

You know, one of the kids did that.

And so your son comes down, you're like, hey, did you eat the Orioles?

I had one.

Well, there was a whole sleeve of them just last night.

I might have had a couple.

I don't know.

That's the way your little kids lie.

You know what I mean?

This administration is doing this instead.

Did you eat the Oreos?

No.

You ate the Oreos.

Bastard.

You're accusing me of it.

What are you?

A racist?

You ate the Oreos.

And now you're asking, accusing me?

That's what they're doing.

They're convincing people that you did

the problem.

You are the problem.

They are the problem.

Yeah, that's the Donald Trump wants to defund the police line we got in the debate yesterday.

Like, what?

What are you talking about?

So, this does not end well.

And we have got to keep our cool and know that that is exactly what they're trying to do.

The Bubba effect, I've talked about for years.

And as this gets worse and worse, I mean, look at what they're doing.

Look at what they're doing.

We told you yesterday.

I mean, if you really listen to this show and you're following the news on what's going on, it all is becoming extraordinarily apparent on what's going on.

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Newsweek magazine called this man

the he was on the first list of the 50 most influential rabbis in the United States.

He is a good friend.

He's impacted my life.

Rabbi Lapin, how are you?

Couldn't be better and wonderful to be with you.

Rabbi Lee.

I know.

How long has it been since we've seen each other?

I hate to think.

It's a year or two.

It's got to be.

Yeah, maybe even more than that.

So,

have we even talked since October 7th?

No, we haven't spoken since October the 7th.

How's it going?

Susan and I were there in Israel during that time.

We stayed till the end of the month.

And

we just actually got back from Israel two days ago.

Difference between right after and now.

The most fascinating thing is

the

ever-present

tension between normality and tragedy.

And so

it's perfectly possible, and again, you know, because we know so many people,

you go to a funeral of a soldier in the morning, and then that night you're a guest at a wedding of somebody getting married and starting a new family.

And you cry at the funeral and you dance at the wedding.

What is the replacement rate?

What is the birth rate of Israelis?

That's a fascinating question.

Because

in a way that baffles most demographers, Israel is a modern Western democracy, fully industrialized, highly technological.

We're going down the two.

And we we are hitting way down in America about 1.6.

And of course, as you know, 2.1 is the absolute bare minimum replacement level.

If you're not hitting 2.1, you've got a real problem.

You're out.

And so

America is about 1.6, 1.63.

Israel is...

On whole, the country as a whole is 3.2.

Holy cow.

The Jewish population is about 4.2, 4.2,

and the Arab population slightly less.

Wow.

Yes.

And by the way, you feel it there, you know, as you well know.

But I mean,

there's kids everywhere.

And, you know, you go to a restaurant at 9 o'clock at night.

Yeah.

And, you know, a quarter of the tables have kids at them or a baby and a stroller.

Yeah.

It's a little like being in Utah.

It is, yes.

Kids are everywhere.

And I mean that totally positively because what kids do is create an aura of optimism.

There is a tomorrow.

So there is

a lot of concern, and rightfully so.

I mean, I heard Elon Musk talk about this recently, saying we've got to have children.

Yes.

We have got to start having children.

And meanwhile, that old relic, Paul Ehrlich at Stanford University, still worries about overpopulation because not a single one of his predictions came anywhere near true.

These people are so Malthusian.

Yes.

I mean, Yeah, that's my

word for it.

Bill Gates.

Oh my gosh, when he's talking about, you know, we've got to reduce the population, reduce the population, and, you know, we'll have some vaccines and we're going to do some things.

And

when we reduce the population,

it's terrifying.

Yes.

Terrifying these people.

So what is the difference?

Why are we going down?

And the whole Western world, and yet Israel is a Western leader.

Why aren't you going down?

Yeah.

So first first of all, let's banish the

sham explanations and the bogus explanations

because this is the first thing that everybody hears and it's absolutely not true.

The one explanation is that as women become more educated and affluent, they realize there are options to them to marriage and family.

That is the...

It's a a little insulting.

Oh, it's a lot insulting.

Yes, absolutely.

It's a little like black people don't know how to find a place to get a driver's license.

Yeah, very much like that.

Yeah.

Or Susan Lappen

somehow lost her brains and lost her qualifications because she has a number of kids.

So that's one explanation.

The other explanation is that the government isn't doing enough.

It's not taxing people enough so it can spend enough money on child care.

That's why people aren't having children.

Ah, childcare.

Right.

And so

the United States government, as well as governments all around the world, South Korea has been very big on this.

Hungary has been big on this.

Well, why don't we just give women money to have children?

That should solve the problem.

If this is, after all, about money.

Yeah, right, then let's solve it.

Right.

Would you be shocked to hear that it does absolutely nothing?

No.

It does absolutely nothing.

Right.

It's another government program.

I'm not shocked to hear that it didn't work.

So that's not the the explanation.

And what is the explanation?

Can I guess?

Can I guess?

I'd love you to, yes.

Loss of hope in tomorrow.

Okay, well, I may as well go home now.

Oh, is it right?

Yes, no, that's exactly the point.

You see, it's equations.

The nice thing about math equations is you can read them left to right or right to left.

2 plus 2 equals 4, and 4 equals 2 plus 2.

Similarly, in these demographic areas, it also works like that.

For instance, the presence of children creates optimism and hope and confidence for the future.

And reading the other way, if you have optimism and confidence about the future, then children come.

It's as simple as that.

I hear people all the time say, I would never bring my child.

I walked by somebody and I heard them say,

They were talking about children and we were just out on the street and I didn't know them and they said, I would never bring a child.

And I turned around and I said, Do it's the greatest joy of your life and they're going to make it.

And so are we.

And there was probably more reason for your parents not to have you than there's for you not to have.

In other words, you want to talk about economic affluence, you're probably better off than your parents.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what is the cure for it?

Well, that, of course, is difficult then because

for many, many people, the disease is preferable to the cure.

In other other words, the benefits of population hit downstream,

but the,

if you like, the inconveniences of children hit right now.

And so it's difficult because no matter what you promise for down the road, it's still very much an incentive for people to say, you know what, tomorrow will take care of itself on somebody else's watch.

But, you know, my wife and I like being dinks, you know, double income, no kids, we're good to go.

And so that's one part of it.

The other part of it, of course, is that feminism has been such a roaring success, persuading women that career has to be followed first.

And then there's going to be plenty time.

You can always freeze your eggs.

And it's a cruel hoax that's been played on all the many women who spent a fortune doing just that and are now realizing that the likelihood of a successful implantation is pretty low.

Is there a time in history that a society was as anti-women as we are while claiming it's pro-women?

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

So, you know,

there were times in Cuba, there was certainly during the Soviet Union, because this is essentially a socialist impulse.

It's a socialist impulse

to do everything possible to shatter the nuclear family, because the biggest obstacle to governmental tyranny is a strong family structure and religion.

Those two things.

So, not surprisingly, early on in the manifesto, religion and

family, and of course, one of the foundational principles,

the buttressing of a family, is private property, so that a man can support his wife and his children.

He doesn't need to depend on the government and become an impotent dependent.

So private property has to go, family structure has to go, and religion has to go.

So I keep holding out that, I mean, I keep looking at things and think, well,

we're not just getting away from God and shunning him.

We've dragged him back to the town square and we're mocking him openly.

That doesn't end well, usually.

But I keep coming back to, you know, what if if I find 50 men?

And I know, I know hundreds of really good people.

What do you see coming our way?

Do we have 50?

Well, Glenn, go back to 1980.

It's quite a while ago, 50 years ago.

But

how many hotel rooms, what percentage of American hotel rooms had a Bible in the hotel room?

I would imagine a ton of them.

They said 98%.

So that means they don't want to say 100, but it was pretty much ubiquitous.

Bibles you found in hotel rooms.

Now,

what percentage of American hotel rooms have a Bible?

36%

in this period of time.

That's kind of a good, mathematically defining marker for what's happening in America.

Yeah.

Have you been over to Europe?

I have.

Not just with the Jews, but everyone.

It seems as though Islam is poised to take Europe soon.

Am I reading that wrong?

You know, religious people tend to have longer memories than secular people.

And the reason is that for secular people, nothing is more important than the moment.

Today is it.

Yesterday, you know, pull down the statues, who cares?

Tomorrow, unborn children, forget about it.

We're mostly interested in right now.

But by contrast, people who are religious, and this extends to Muslims as well, obviously,

do care about it tomorrow.

There is a redemptive future down the road.

But

we also care about the past very much.

And so

for Muslims, this has been a long

struggle between Christianity and Islam.

And it's not fashionable to speak in terms of titanic cultural clashes today.

That's exactly what it is.

And Muslims do have long memories.

I don't believe that it was an accident that

the terrorist attacks, what, 23 years ago now,

occurred on the 11th of September, because that was the date of the last defeat of the Muslim armies outside the gates of Vienna in 1683.

That was the 11th of September that the Christian armies came down and crushed the Ottomans.

And

that was the furthest Muslims ever got into Europe.

But ever since that time,

they dream, understandably, because they dream of a Sharia world, an entire world that kneels before the Prophet.

And it is also a religion that believes in force.

I don't know much about Muslim theology, but I know a lot about Muslim behavior over the last

800 years or so.

So

yeah,

this is a takeover of Europe.

They have much to be proud of because they've really come very far, very quickly.

Yeah, very quickly.

I couldn't imagine this.

I couldn't imagine 20 years ago us having this conversation and saying, you know, it looks like it's going to be lost to Islam.

You know, it's only a matter of time.

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You know, we are really in an abusive relationship.

That's what it is.

And we've been beaten into our corners.

And we just thought for a long time, I think Republicans thought, the GOP loves me.

They hate you.

Okay.

They hate you.

They don't care about you at all.

The Democrats were beaten into, they're for the little guy.

They're just like me.

No, they don't.

They hate you.

They hate you.

Go ahead.

Speak out against any of their policies.

See how much they love you.

And that's abuse.

That is mental and emotional abuse.

If I speak out, I'm going to be called a racist, a bigot, a homophobe.

I'm going to be beaten down.

And I just don't want that anymore.

I just, you know, because it's my fault.

I guess I did let these things happen.

I have done some things that were wrong.

That's the thinking of somebody who is abused.

We're in an abusive relationship.

And when you are,

you know, somebody, your friend will come and say, you got to get out of this.

And you don't want to believe them.

No, no.

And you get angry at them.

Does this sound like your family, your friends?

You get angry at them.

And you're like, no, that's not true.

You don't know.

You're the problem.

You're the one.

He just does it.

He loves me.

He just, the once in a while, does that.

Uh-huh.

We have to meet people where they are and understand that they are being abused.

And we were abused too.

We just somehow or another got out.

We got out.

I mean, because the abuser is the Democratic Party, just as much as the Republican

is the abuser.

Republican Party, they're not, I mean, they are better, but they're still abusers.

They still will, they hate us.

They don't do what they say they'll do.

They're not standing up for what you are.

We are a different group of people.

And that group of people is growing.

It's independent.

We're imperfect.

We were duped.

But we woke up.

I don't know how we woke up, but we woke up.

And there are other people waking up on their side.

You know,

have an intervention.

And just mention, not only with me, it's not just me, it's people all over the country that used to think like you and RFK and Alan Dershowitz.

Is there a bigger pillar of Democrats than Alan Dershowitz?

Elon Musk, don't you think he's pretty smart?

What is he seeing that you're missing?

You've got Tulsi Gabbard, Barry Weiss, he was with the New York Times.

Michael Schellenberger, he's not a liberal.

You've got James Lindsay, a professor from Portland University.

That's not Glenn Beck.

And what are all of them saying?

They're saying, I'm not a conservative.

I'm not on the bandwagon because I like Trump.

I'm just saying, you cannot vote for this party because it's an abuser and it's going to kill you.

That's the kind of conversation we have to have and

know that

you're going to pay a price for it and they're going to pay a price for it.

Jamie Mitchell, she is

the founder and president of Gays Against Groomers.

And you want to talk about somebody who is really

taking it on the chin

and being a pariah.

Almost with everybody, it seems.

I mean, I'm kind of used to it because, you know, my faith,

we're the Jews of Christendom.

So I'm kind of used to it.

But I don't know if it came as a surprise to her.

I imagine it didn't.

But she came out against grooming.

And saying, hey, this stuff that's going on in our schools, hello, wake up.

And there's a ton of gay people who feel that way.

So don't lump all gay people together, just like you don't lump all straight people together.

Jamie is with me now.

Hi, Jamie.

Hey, Glenn.

How are you?

How are you?

I'm very good.

I'm great.

I'm so happy to be on with you.

Yeah.

Tucker and I talked about you at the last

rally when I was doing that.

I don't know if you remember.

I saw that.

And I was totally shocked.

Yeah.

A bunch of people were like, oh my God, they just talked about you and Gazigan Ask Rumors on stage.

I'm like, no, they didn't.

And I went to look, and sure enough,

we're both big fans.

We're fans of...

You know what I'm a fan of, Jamie?

I'm a fan of anyone who can

stand with reason against their own click

and say, you know what?

My clique is wrong on this.

I'm still part of that group, but I'm not part of that part of that group.

And that takes

incredible uh courage when did you decide to do this

you said when yeah and how so yeah back in 2022 uh you know i already had a big platform myself um over the years i started in 2017 with an account called the gay who strayed to kind of like stand up and show that not all conservatives are straight white men you know so i was a i was a conservative lesbian so i made a platform that way.

It grew very large over the years.

And by 2022, you know, we start, we all started seeing the onslaught of videos coming out and the material in schools, like the drag shows with kids, the porn in schools, children being, you know, cut up in the name of gender-affirming care.

And I decided, you know, I had this platform.

I was like, you know what, I have to try and do something about this because all the gay people I know in my life, and even trans people, you know, we were very much, all of us, very much against what's happening.

But the narrative is that all LGBTQ plus plus plus people support this.

And that's simply not true.

It's just, you know,

the narrative is what it is.

Like, you know, the media controls the narrative for pretty much everything in this country.

And that was the narrative for us.

And so I felt, you know, there was a...

All of my friends that are part of the community were speaking out individually against it, but there was no unified voice.

So I was like, you know what?

All these straight people and these parents, they're being demonized for just wanting to protect their kids.

They're being called homophobic and transphobic and bigots.

And I was like, you know what?

They're going to have a harder time doing that to us.

And we need to make our voices loud and clear that this is not okay.

You know, we're not going to, because this agenda is being pushed in our name.

It's affecting us personally as well.

You know, all people are assuming that we all support this and that's not true.

So in 2022, I came up with the name Gays Against Groomers.

I was like, oh, that's going to get some attention.

That's going to ruffle some feathers.

And sure enough, it did.

And we basically just exploded overnight.

And I think that goes to show how needed and wanted our voices were in this fight because they hold more weight.

So ever since then, it's kind of been just, you know, I never expected it to get as big as it did.

But, you know, at three months after I created the organization, I was on Tucker Carlson's show on Fox before they let him go.

So, yeah,

and it's been incredible.

You know, the support has been

incredible.

And we've been very successful.

So, you know, in just a little over two years, we've gotten quote unquote gender-affirming care for minors banned in over 20 states.

So, you know, we've helped, we've assisted in that greatly.

That is fantastic.

Were you surprised by all the pushback?

From, well, you know, we, Gays Against Groomers is a nonpartisan organization.

We have...

members from all over the political spectrum, but it's really sad that, you know, one party is pushing this agenda and one party is trying to stop it.

Everybody can probably guess the parties I'm talking about, which is which.

But, you know, it's sad that the most pushback we get, and it is fervent, it is like rabid pushback.

You've been debanked, haven't you?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

A few months after we launched, PayPal and Venmo banned us.

You know, I was expecting to, we were, we, totally, we've been banned from like 15 or 16 companies now.

Most social media, some we've had to switch merch printing providers three times,

constantly getting banned left and right.

But yeah, one day I woke up to an email saying that Gays Against Rumors was banned from PayPal and Venmo.

It happened simultaneously because PayPal owns Venmo.

And even me personally, not only is the organization banned, but I'm personally also banned from that.

So

why?

Well, they say that we violated

their community standards or whatever,

because what has happened is even, I don't know if you've seen, but even our Wikipedia page has labeled us an anti-LGBT

far-right.

How can you be?

It'd be like you being against yourself.

Exactly.

Like Martin Luther King running, you know, marching against black men.

That's so ridiculous.

But that just goes to show that that's the only attack these people have.

They can't defend their stances, you know, based on facts or science or logic.

All they have is calling people names, and them calling us those things just goes to show that.

And it's absolutely ridiculous.

But yeah,

it's funny because we don't have a single straight person in the organization.

We're not anti-ourselves.

We just want children to be left alone.

That's all it is.

It's really simple.

It's really simple.

But what happens is, you know, Wikipedia has that.

And then the ADL, the SBLC, Media matters they all come out and label us a hate group and so these big companies they base it off that as a reason to ban us

so it's just it's really it's sad you know I never first of all I never thought an organization like Gays Against Groomers would have to exist

in my wildest imagination I would have never predicted this is what my life would turn into or have to turn into you know and um I know so it's it's just it's it's unbelievable and it's really unbelievable that we're somehow the bad guys for just wanting to ensure that children grow up healthy and whole and not be chemically castrated with the same drugs given to pedophiles,

which is Lupron for your listeners that are not aware.

They call it puberty blockers.

That's actually not true.

It's a chemical castration drug given to sex offenders and also have their body parts, their healthy body parts amputated, you know, before they're old enough to drive a car.

It's just,

it's absolutely mind-blowing.

But somehow we're the bad guys.

I don't know.

And you pay for all of your trips everywhere and everything, because you guys can't find a sponsor, right?

Nobody will sponsor you.

No.

Yeah, we have no large donors as of yet.

So all the money we have is raised by, you know, our supporters.

We have almost a million followers now across social media platforms, which is incredible given how many times we've been banned.

You know, we've been banned from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter twice before Elon took over, and we've been reinstated on all of them somehow.

But, you know, I always think any day I'm going to wake up and it'll be taken away again.

Not X.

I'm not worried about X anymore, but the others.

But all of our funding comes from our supporters.

You know, our average donation is like $40.

And we have a very meager amount of funds in the bank,

you know, but we make it work.

It really just goes to show that if you have a dedicated group of people that are really passionate about this and you have a moral just cause you can really make change I mean it would be wonderful to have some serious funding because we have a lot of big plans like we want to we want to host events and and travel more to show up to more places but it's very hard

but so we do what we can

And yeah, that's basically how it's been going for two years.

So I'm hoping, you know, gays against rumors, we have a project 2025 too.

We want to get funding in 2025 and really, you know, take things to the next level.

So hopefully we can.

I want to talk to you again in 2025.

But I urge her story sounds like every Tea Party story I heard 15 years ago.

Everybody.

We all went through this.

We can't get anybody to fund us.

We can't get it.

We're all just doing what we can.

I'm telling you,

I think Jamie and Gays Against Groomers is vital to this fight.

And I would urge you to

give whatever you can to Gaze Against Groomers at gazeagainsgroomers.com.

Make a donation.

And I'm bound and determined to find some large donations for you, Jamie.

So we'll talk to you in 2025.

That would be amazing.

And Glenn, I just appreciate your support so much.

This issue is the most important issue facing us.

I mean, facing for sure, kids, you know, this generation is

really on the chopping block.

Think about what it's going to be like for those kids when they grow up.

I mean,

I mean, their entire, I don't know about you, but the thought of having to live with the consequences of a decision I made when I was 11, 12, 13 for the rest of my life is absolutely mortifying.

You know, and it's just a phase, but this phase, you know, all kids go through phases.

It's like everybody's known this for all of...

all of time up until five minutes ago, you know, but these phases leave kids, you know, sterilized and with missing body parts.

It's just horrific.

It's, it's the stuff of nightmares, truly.

I remember my mom and dad saying to me at one point, don't get a tattoo.

Don't.

You know, wait until you're much older if you want a tattoo because you're going to regret it for the rest of your life.

And

this makes tattoos look like, yeah, you could tattoo your eyes and your whole face, and it would be better for life than what they're suggesting you do.

Jamie, thank you.

True.

God bless you.

Thank you so much.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

GazeAgainstgroomers.com.

My dad had a tattoo on his arm that said Anne, which was great when he was married to Anne.

Less great when he was no longer married to Anne and was married to Sue.

That was a.

Sue Ann?

He actually did try to like just kind of like change the words at one point.

It didn't really work and eventually he just got it removed.

Yeah.

So, you know, it's that's just a little that was a decision you made as an adult.

Imagine a kid making a decision much more significant.

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