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Hello, America.

There's a lot going on.

Tonight on YouTube, we replay the show that I did last night on Blaze TV.

It's all about illegals, voting.

And, of course, that's a disinformation campaign from the right.

There's nothing to see there.

According to the New York Times, we're making a big deal out of nothing.

Really?

We begin there in 60 seconds.

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I want to actually start before we get into the show that we did last night and now the New York Times response, which is crazy.

There was a story yesterday that

Merrick Garland, who is so trustworthy, came out and

talked about an indictment

that tenant media

was involved in some sort of Russian something or other.

And they had an anonymous donor.

I can't figure this story out.

I'm not going to get into it and none of the details because

I don't know what the details are.

Right now, I know there is an indictment.

But other than that,

I can't figure out what the Russians would have been doing,

how Russia was going to benefit from this.

However, I'm going to leave this alone for the facts and just talk to you about this.

I have been telling you for how many years

that there is there are deep pockets in Russia and there are people that are trying to

go after conservatives and they are in our churches

you hear the agents of chaos voices that you're like wait a minute wait a minute what are they saying

sometimes those are voices of chaos maybe those are sometimes just misguided people I don't know

but

please

Everyone in the media,

this is why we said you cannot go after TikTok.

You go after TikTok.

They'll find another reason why you're involved some way or another with a foreign country and they'll shut you down.

This is the way McCarthyism begins.

This is the way you begin to smear people

for connections that are

dubious.

Maybe some of them are true.

Maybe not.

I have no idea.

All I want to say to you is

I have been aware of this threat for years, and I have been warning everyone in the media.

I have been warning you.

I don't know what to do.

My first instinct on this is

Isolate yourself.

I can't answer for other people.

I can only answer for me.

And, you know,

I have a show with Tucker Carlson.

He invited me to be on his stage show.

He's doing Russell Bran and Megan Kelly.

And I'm the guest on his stage show this Saturday at I think it's at the Delta Center.

You can get tickets at tuckercarlson.com.

But this may be the last time I share the stage with anyone.

I don't know.

Because I don't know.

I mean, we're in this place where I,

we just played this last night.

In 2019, I said, warning, there is going to come a time where there is a trust implosion, where you won't know who to trust and no one will trust anyone or anything.

What happens after that is street violence becomes out of hand.

There probably will be a war at the same time, and that's when everything shuts down.

So, we're at the last play here,

and

we just have to be very, very, very careful.

May I say something that just popped into my mind, and I don't think it's

just me.

Anyone who is pushing for chaos or violence

is on the wrong side.

Anyone that is pushing for chaos or violence is on the wrong side.

Anyone who is pushing fear that you should be afraid, and I get accused of this all the time, He's just pushing fear.

No, I'm really not because

I try to follow it with

fear not.

Fear not.

God is in charge.

Just do the right thing.

Just stand where you're supposed to stand.

And I've told you this for 20 years now.

There's going to come a time when you need the Spirit.

to be constantly with you, or you will not know where to stand.

You will not know where to turn.

You won't have discernment and you will be lost if you don't have that discernment.

Please

pray for me.

Pray for my staff, and I will pray for you.

We really,

we have to be very aware.

And

spit yourself out of the system as much as you can.

Okay.

By the way, I'm with Tucker Carlson at the Delta Center this Saturday.

Then next weekend, I'm joining Donald Trump for a rally and a fundraiser.

And then the weekend after that is September 20th and 21st.

It's a Friday and Saturday.

And it is

the American Narratives in Fine Art Show.

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I said, find something that touches you,

that you just feel compelled to tell that story and tell that story in painting.

And so they are.

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not only on the bottom end, but on the top end.

And, you know, while fine art is thought of as being top end, this stuff trickles down.

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You know,

I always walk into people's houses.

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George Washington kneeling in prayer, the prayer at Valley Forge, I always look like, okay, they get it.

They're safe.

This is safe house.

This is safe house.

But these things help us teach our children the true history.

And so that weekend on September 20th and 21st,

we're having an open house at the studios.

You can get tickets for Friday, I believe.

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And then Saturday, it's open to the public in the morning and the afternoon.

And then in the evening, there is a dinner you can buy tickets for, et cetera, et cetera.

But just find all of this information at Glenbeck.com, American Narratives in Fineart.com, as well as where you get your tickets.

But I will see you in, wow,

it's three weeks,

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and 21st in Dallas at the Mercury Studios.

Okay, last night on the TV show,

I talked to you about

illegal immigration and illegal voting.

Now,

Stu has a story that just came out from the New York Times that says people like me and Donald Trump and anybody who's concerned about the vote, we're overstating the problem.

You want to give me the highlights of this, Stu?

Sure, Glenn.

The title is Republicans Seize on False Theories About Immigrant Voting.

And

it starts talking about

a group.

Well, there's multiple groups discussed in the article, but it says in late July, a group of Republican activists met on a Zoom call to discuss preparations for the November election.

The topic was how to keep undocumented immigrants from voting in November, a problem they claim inaccurately to be a looming threat to a fair election.

It goes on to say that

there's no indication that non-citizens are voting in large numbers,

which is, I think, an interesting point because

it doesn't have to be in large voting numbers to be a threat to an election, right?

Especially a close one.

But they, of course,

are so

I'm kind of an absolutist where I don't want anybody who shouldn't vote to vote.

I don't care what the numbers are.

Really?

But

let me just go through the numbers here

with this clip from last night's show.

Listen to this.

The mainstream media is in agreement that these seven states will swing the election in November.

They're Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

So let's go through each one and keep in mind what Texas just found.

Also, the fact that by Election Day, it will be projected that we will have

8 million migrants living in the United States.

Some say it's closer to 20 million.

In 2020, over 11,600 no-proof of citizenship required federal ballots were cast in Arizona during the 2020 election.

Arizona currently has 273,000 illegals living in the state that we know of.

Joe Biden won Arizona in 2020 by 10,457 votes.

Looks kind of significant in Arizona.

But let's go to Georgia.

Stacey Abrams infamously said the blue wave would include undocumented immigrants.

That's a quote.

Georgia currently has 339,000 illegals.

Biden won Georgia in 2020 by 12,000 votes.

Michigan has 90.

Tell me how this is not significant.

I mean,

There were 11,000 illegals voting in Arizona.

Donald Trump lost by 10,000.

We also know that illegals almost always break for the Democrats.

Almost always.

Is that not

significant?

If Donald Trump would have won Arizona, he would have won, wouldn't he have, Stu?

Is it one state or something?

He would have needed more than that.

Yeah, he would have needed more than that.

And with

closed states, though.

Right.

And with 339 in Georgia, and he loses by 10,000 votes, 339,000.

There's 160,000 today

in

Arizona.

And,

you know, in 2020, there weren't that many.

And you had 11,000 people voting that shouldn't have been voting.

With 339 and Georgia being lost last time by about 11,000,

I don't know.

There seems like there could be a problem.

I don't understand why

the

left can get away with doing things

that

everyone agrees on.

It's like 80% of the population, both Republican and Democrat and Independent, all agree you should have ID.

They all agree you should be a citizen if you're going to vote.

If you're not a citizen, you shouldn't vote.

We all agree on that, except for the Democratic Party and

their minions in the press.

I don't know.

I think that's significant.

I think when you have

an election that could be won by 10,000 votes, I think it's important to know

who is actually voting.

But then again, I'm an extremist conspiracy theorist.

So what do I know?

Well, I should say I'm a conspiracy theorist

until 90% of what I say comes to fruition.

And then they eventually say, oh yeah, we've been doing that forever.

I mean, it's no big deal.

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Glenn, if you remember the 2020 election as a little chaotic, is that sort of your memory of it?

Yeah, kind of, yeah.

Just a tad.

Just a tad.

Let me bring you back for a moment because you highlighted something that I had forgotten from the 2020 election.

The final electoral count in 2020 was 306 to 232 with Biden winning.

However, as you point out, Arizona switching would make a difference, but it would not be

enough for Trump to actually win the election.

But there were three states that were really close in that election.

Yeah.

Under, you know, right around 20,000 votes or less.

Those three states were Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

So if you were to say that those three states went the other way, Arizona, 11 electoral votes to Trump, Georgia, 16 to Trump, and Wisconsin, 10 to Trump, the electoral count is 269 to 269.

It would have been a tie.

You think 2020 was chaotic the way it played out last time?

Can you imagine if that thing landed with razor-sharp margins in three different states that went Trump's way and led to a tie that was determined in the House of Representatives.

Holy crap, that would have been insane.

Have you heard that that's why RFK did not pull his name off of the ballots in

deep blue states?

Oh, he said that during his press conference, that if there was a two-cause he believes, yeah, there's a chance that there's a 269 to 269 tie, and he would be the tiebreaker.

Now, he will ⁇ the House of Representatives ⁇ I think

he's having a delusional state to think that the House of Representatives is going to select him.

But I mean, he'd be in play, right?

There'd be a chance of it happening.

Well, no, if it's a tie, can't he throw his delegates?

Well, first of all,

he's not going to have any.

But no, it would go to a House of Representatives vote.

It's been a while since I've thought this out, but my memory of it, at least off the top of my head, is it goes to a House of Representatives vote, which would be a vote

that, you know, depending on whoever's controlling the House, is going to be able to pick the next president.

So that is a, you know, there's a theory that can happen where, like, if let's say enough, if Republicans were leading it and Republicans, there was enough Republicans who didn't like Trump.

Remember 2016, this was talked about because there was a decent amount of Republicans in the House that really just didn't like Trump at all.

They could decide not to vote for him and try to force it into some sort of third option instead of Trump.

The chances of that happening are so impossibly low.

It's hard to state, but it is theoretically possible that if it tied at 269, or if, you know, let's say RFK Jr.

were to win one of those states that you're talking about,

then he would be in the, if he could hold both guys below 270, which would be very difficult to do, but if he could do that, it would go to the House, and then it's kind of up for grabs.

But I don't think RFK Jr.

has enough friends on both sides to be able to win.

Does it look like we're going to control the house?

How are we doing on the house count?

The house is really a toss-up at this point.

Oh, gosh.

I mean, it's a toss-up now.

It doesn't seem like Republicans have improved their position all that much, but it's still really early on that.

Have one thing come our way, just one.

Even the Senate, I think, is questionable.

And that should have been a gift to Republicans this year.

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So, Stu points out during the break that last half hour I said, you know, after this Tucker Carlson thing, I'm not sure I will ever appear on stage with anybody else.

And then I reminded you immediately, I'm going to be out with Donald Trump next weekend.

Yeah.

Yes, that's true.

You know, but I don't think of

Donald Trump in the same way.

I think I look at Donald Trump as

something to hold back

the

wolves.

And, you know, I might be surprised.

There might be a time where he like pulls off the mask and he's like, yes, the better to eat you with.

You know, and he is the wolf.

I don't think so.

But I don't trust anybody anymore.

But I will tell you, we have no country left.

I mean, let's just give you some of the headlines from today.

Harris calls for higher

taxes on investment income.

Now, what is that going to do, Stu?

Just noodle this with me.

She's giving more taxes on investment income.

What do you think that is?

Some would say

when you tax something, you discourage it.

So if you're taxing investments, you're discouraging investments in American companies.

Yeah, but she says she's only going to be taxing people who have a million dollars or more.

She can say that all she wants.

She's lying, though.

Yeah, I know.

But she's also,

just so you know, she's only going after the people who have money to invest.

She's not going to go after the poor people on the investment thing.

So, good.

Really?

She's not going to hit

the people in massive debt with no income on their massive 401ks?

Right.

No, they're not going to.

Great story about workers feeling Bidenomics pain as job creators fear the worse for Kamala.

And

this is what's happening.

If you think your employer is going to be like, you know what?

I'm going to add jobs.

If Kamala gets in, you're out of your mind.

They are all going to batten down the hatches.

By the way, job openings fell more than expected in July, which is,

huh, what does that even mean?

U.S.

steel shares plunge as Biden-Harris prepare to block Nippon Steel takeover.

People familiar with the matter told the Washington Post that President Joe Biden is preparing to announce that he will block the $14.9 billion deal.

U.S.

shares have fallen now 41% this year.

Kamala Harris, the presidential nominee, said U.S.

steel should remain American-owned and American-operated.

That was during a campaign event in Pittsburgh.

Well,

that would be good.

That would be good.

I'd love that.

Is anybody offering that to U.S.

Steel?

Not according to U.S.

Steel, which is kind of the issue, which they say...

I'm interested in your thoughts on this because

it's not China, right?

It's not Russia.

This is an ally, a close ally, Japan, who is trying to purchase U.S.

Steel.

Obviously, U.S.

Steel being like this iconic company makes us feel weird.

It has the word U.S.

United States in it.

But their point is like, we are screwed without this deal.

We're leaving Pittsburgh.

We're firing a bunch of people.

A lot of union jobs go away if you do not let us go through with

this deal.

And I can kind of say, you know, I kind of have some understanding of why you'd be hesitant to want U.S.

steel to go into foreign hands?

Like, it kind of makes sense to me.

And like, so no, I don't think it should.

But you have to, as a, you, as a country, you can recommend against it, but

do you have a plan to save it?

I mean, do you have a plan?

What is the plan?

Nope, we're not going to approve that deal.

Okay.

Are you working on anything that maybe you get some Americans to pool their money together and say, you know what, we think this is important.

U.S.

steel, this is critical infrastructure.

If we can't make steel in the United States, we're screwed.

But don't worry about it.

She's got everything under control.

And you're not going to have to worry about cars or tractors or things like that

because we're all going to be living in 15-minute cities.

And if you don't believe me, that you will own nothing and you'll be happy about it.

Let me just share this.

Who owns the environmental services?

USDA now is monetizing natural processes under the Sustains Act.

So, the Sustains Act we told you about a couple of weeks ago, we told you that you had to speak out against this and stop it.

It doesn't look like it's gonna be stopped.

But there's a free market now

on

environmental processes.

So, in other words, one environmental process is

trees breathe in carbon dioxide and they breathe out air.

Okay?

So they take the pollution and breathe it in and then they give us what we need to live as they breathe out.

It's kind of a weird thing.

I haven't heard anybody talk about that for a long, long time now.

But that's how they survive and thrive.

But now,

for instance, I've planted in the last 10 years, I can't count the number of trees that I have planted up in a treeless area.

And I may not own those trees now.

If the USDA has their way, and this is already passed, they're just looking on how to implement it, the secretary.

is allowed to

go in and say, you know what?

These trees are really important.

That water, you're pumping that water out of your well.

Well, that's not your water.

That's part of the environmental process.

And we don't think you should pump any of that water.

They will, well, I can't say this.

They will regulate, but they won't own.

They are claiming the processes that are on your land.

So you may not own the air.

You may not own the tree.

You may not own the water.

Nothing.

What is your land worth without water, especially in the west what is your land worth without water farmers

what is your land worth uh when you can't till the soil yourself because the minerals and the every the soil is not really owned by you you own the space but you don't own anything other than you know maybe maybe your house if it's already built

Who owns that?

Well, people like Bill Gates will own that.

Bill Gates will come in and say, you know, I just want to save the planet.

So I'm going to just buy up all of this farmland

and I'm going to buy the air and I'm going to buy the trees and I'm going to buy everything.

So that way,

when somebody wants to farm on it, like these farmers that have been farming on it for generations,

I can tell them no, no, because it'll hurt the environment.

And all of this is

done

by the secretary of the USDA.

I don't even know who that is.

Do you?

This is why our government is out of control.

Who is to answer for this?

It's all at the Secretary's discretion.

No, thank you.

No, thank you.

So the Department of Agriculture and the USDA, they

administer the program.

And the Secretary, could you look up the Secretary of Agriculture, Stu?

Because

I don't know who that is.

I'd like to know what brainiac we have put in on that, but I'm sure they're smarter than all of us put together.

A name from the past, Secretary Tom Vilsack.

Remember him?

Yeah.

Former Secretary.

I don't know why I remember him, but I do remember him.

Yeah, good.

So we have a senator

that, you know, and senators know so much about farming and land, you know, and trees and all of that.

I think that's fantastic.

So the new law sets out how the secretary is to determine ownership of the environmental services that are created on private land through the federal conservation program.

Contributing entity, the one who contributes the private funding to the conservation programs, is to prescribe the terms of ownership of the environmental services subject to the approval of the secretary.

So

that's great.

That's great.

The landowner really doesn't have anything to say about it.

So

don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

What?

You can live in a city, a 15-minute city.

That's not a problem.

You're not going to be able to buy a car because we're not going to make our own steel, you know?

And you're not going to really have a job.

Because you don't have to really have a job because you won't own anything.

You'll just rent it from your overlords.

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What do you mean they're monetizing the natural processes under the Sustains Act?

This is a way for them to take control of the land

through private-public partnerships.

So the public owns the land.

Though, well, I shouldn't say that.

I mean, it's still a private person, but he's, you know, part of the public.

So he owns the land, and then he partners with the government.

to control it.

And I think that is exactly the direction we all want to go in.

I really don't understand how people, you know, I understood when it was my word

saying, you know, I feel like this is what's happening.

We're so far beyond that.

When I came out with the book on the WEF and was starting to tell you about how you were going to, you know, own nothing and be happy, I could even understand that you could say, well, that's what all the documents say, but they're not going to do it.

I can't understand you're burying your head in your sand in the sand anymore.

There's no excuse for it anymore.

This is not my opinion.

You can do your own homework.

You'll find all of this being done, not talked about, but being done.

What else are you waiting for?

What else are your friends and your family and your neighbors waiting for?

We have to start talking to our friends and our family, not about politics, not about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

We need to start talking to them about principles and the things that are actually happening.

These things are actually happening.

The economy is going to the crapper.

The jobs are going to the crapper.

If they believed in all of these things,

why wouldn't they do them right now?

Because they don't believe in turning the economy around.

They don't know how to do it.

And what they're going to do is put you all back in chains.

You will work.

for the government, how the government wants you to work, where they want you to work, where they they want you to live, you will own nothing by 2030.

This election takes us to 2028.

Do you think maybe this is an important election?

Back in a minute.

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uh well alan dershowitz says that uh if the judge in new york goes through with the sentencing before the November election, we are a banana republic.

He says this is exactly the kind of stuff that is happening in Venezuela,

and

there's no need for it.

He said this case is probably going to be overturned because, you know, of all the things that happened,

and that there's no evidence, there's no real case there.

And he said, you know, I've been trying, I've been trying from, you know, since the 1960s.

And he said, I've seen cases like this.

And he said, they're always overturned.

If this judge sentences him before the election, that that is clear election interference.

Because it will affect the election one way or another.

I personally think it will hurt them.

I think if they do this right before the election and they put him in jail or whatever,

I think that is going to hurt them.

Do you see the latest, Stu, that

the enthusiasm for Kamala is way, way down?

I've seen some reporting on that.

Yeah.

I think there was one poll that showed something like that.

And it does seem to be that, you know, we talked about this last week, that the momentum is sort of drying up a little bit, if you will, going no longer this sort of

stratospheric rise that Kamala seemed to be on.

There's no shock there.

I mean, like that.

I'm not at all surprised by that.

But I think you're right.

I think, you know, it's interesting the timing of this, which, what is it, September 16th is the sentencing date.

September 10th is the the election.

So

I think Donald Trump's chances of going to prison or winding up in an ankle bracelet increase dramatically if he wins that debate in some sort of demolishing

fashion, like he did the first one against Biden.

If she's in trouble, the chances of him going to prison are much, much higher.

If they think they're winning, I think they might go with your analysis and think it might this might hurt us.

Maybe.

But we're luckily only a few days away to find out: are we of the Anna Republic or not?

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So there's a guy who has lived his whole life without ever registering to vote, without ever voting.

Never voted in a presidential election, ever.

Didn't vote.

I knew him back then.

Didn't vote in

2016.

Didn't vote in 2020.

He knew the stakes.

But this time he's registering to vote.

Why?

And by the way, this is a name you know.

Jason Whitlock joins me in 60 seconds.

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Jason Wentlock.

I got a lot to talk to you about today,

but let me just start with you're voting?

Yes, I'm voting.

I've registered here in Tennessee, and I will be casting a vote for Donald Trump.

Okay.

So

this is a big deal,

and we've talked about this for years, and there have been really important elections.

Why did you never vote?

Because I've never believed

that politics really solve any problems,

that I always felt like

there's no

political solutions to spiritual problems.

I still believe that, but

I do believe the stakes and the consequences of this election and one particular issue that's just near and dear to my heart.

If

anybody has followed me for any period of time, On January 6th, 2021, I was defending them on January 6th.

I didn't wait till the 7th or the 8th or the 9th or a year later.

I felt like those people were justified in their actions.

My instinct said they'd been set up.

and there were agitators and that this was being overblown and calling this an insurrection.

And I just, Ashley Babbitt being murdered for no reason.

And the only way to provide those people that they have put underneath prisons, the only way to provide relief to them is if Donald Trump gets reelected and pardons them.

And so

it's easier for me to see the

consequences and/or benefits

in this election.

And you know, I could go on with all the other things that the left are doing that bother me.

But I don't, sometimes I question whether, like, are the Republicans in on some of this other stuff that the left is doing?

As it relates to getting January 6th people out of these dungeons, Trump can,

should, I hope, will do it.

And I can't sit on the sidelines and say, I did nothing when I'm,

you know, when I have an opportunity to do something.

So, you know, it's really weird with the things that are going on now,

Jason, where, you know, we can talk about it before and say, you know, it looks like this might happen, this might happen.

These things are happening.

I mean, the way they are coming after Elon Musk all over the world now in a coordinated effort is a little terrifying.

Don't you think?

It's terrifying, but I tend to look at it more of it's inspiring because that would be part two of like

that this guy has pushed all of his chips into the middle of the table.

He's Elon Musk.

He's made himself an assassination candidate, a career financial

suicide candidate.

He's been very bold.

And I can't sit on the sidelines and watch this guy risk everything.

And the third part of it would just be the shot that they took at Donald Trump is

I just, men are taking real risks right now.

And for me to say, hey, it's not even worth my time to register to vote and vote, I would be a coward, a hypocrite, and worthy of

disparagement.

Wow.

Good for you.

What do you think is going to happen with

the jail time?

If I think it's the 16th, the judge in New York has to decide

what his sentence is.

If they put him in jail, Jason, how do you think that's going to play out?

I think it's going to inspire more of us.

I think that,

you know, I'll be praying for President Trump,

but I just think

it's just pushing more and more chips into the middle of the table and making conflict more and more inevitable.

You know,

it's, I'm so, I have so little confidence in the integrity of the election process.

We've clearly become a banana republic.

And

there's a a TV show called Narcos.

It was popular on Netflix.

And it was about

drug cartels and their influence over politics in Colombia and other South American countries.

And I watch it now, or I remember it now and go, holy cow, we're just like that.

The corrupt and the criminal are actually, we got villains away in gangs taking over neighborhoods and communities, and we have politicians doing nothing about it.

And today, Glenn, I'm going to, on my show, I'm going to get into a discussion about the great replacement, and I'm going to use sports to unpack it so that people can perhaps hear it in a non-political way.

But this replacement thing that they got going on that too many black people don't understand.

And I know it's not just black people that don't understand it, but we've lost our reverence for American citizenship.

And we just think, hey, anybody and everybody should just be able to come over here and do whatever.

And we're so caught up,

we've lost sight of like religion, shared values based on religious beliefs, shared value based on our geography, shared values based on our language.

That's our identity, not this other,

oh, who you have sex with, how you have sex, what skin color you're on.

Those things are irrelevant.

Your language, your geography, and the values from your religion, that's what should be tying us together.

But

we don't care.

This whole people of color thing.

Show me in the history of the world where people have accomplished something great, magnificent, healthy based off of shared skin color.

No, it's shared values.

It's shared language.

It's shared geography.

And we're just throwing it all away.

It's just, hey, just let any and everybody in here.

And if they're from Somalia and they practice some other form of religion, that's fine.

You know, that's great.

You know, and if there's some other skin color, diversity is our strength.

Shared values had been our strength.

And we have to get back to that.

or we're all throwing away our safety.

All right.

So let me switch gears with you, but I think we're still talking about values and principles and,

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So I know very little about the Caitlin Clark story,

but she, if I understand this right, she is the WNBA

leader, really.

She's actually selling tickets at very high prices.

Nobody else is really being able to sell the tickets.

But I think because she's white, perhaps

there's people in the media that don't want her to be the star.

They want Angel Reese to be the star.

And it's all seemingly based on race.

Is that a correct read of that, Jason?

It's close enough.

You know, I can pick at the edges.

But yes, it's accurate.

But here's what

I'll spit it more pot.

Here's what Caitlin Clark represents.

And it connects to what we were talking about earlier.

She's from the middle of the country, Iowa.

We believe that, hey, like, like, she loves America.

She grew up

in a traditional nuclear family.

Hey, her mom and dad attend the games.

They've been married a long time.

And she grew up playing sports at a Catholic high school.

And so she's got the Christian faith.

And she just, she's like, she stands out in that culture because the WNBA has been very woke and very politicized and very Marxist leaning.

And now they finally have a likable

superstar who plays a unique style of basketball for a woman, but also she's just kind of easy to like.

She's relatable because, you know, Midwest girl, you know, has some boyfriend that, you know, she keeps close to, that works for the Indiana Pacers, you know, seems to come from a good family.

and doesn't hate America.

She, you know,

the WNBA has been about kneeling and protesting America.

And yes,

the Angel Reese, who has kind of stayed out of politics, but she attached herself to Caitlin Clark by trolling her when they were college stars and then being jealous of her as WNBA players.

And so

Angel Reese is the villain, and Caitlin Clark is the hero.

And there are people based on their racial idolatry that just they prefer Angel Reese and want to bring down Caitlin Clark.

It's, we all should be enjoying this, but also learning a lesson, and this is where my show is going to get into this.

The WNBA trajectory, because of Caitlin Clark and because of those values that she represents,

It's going to, and this will sound crazy when I say it, but it's going to surpass the NBA in relevance here in America.

And I think that's going to happen more quickly than people realize.

And it's because in the NBA,

all of their young superstars, they're all foreign players.

The NBA, the men's league, has bought into globalism.

They don't understand the value of American citizenship.

And so that league's popularity has been waning ever since Michael Jordan retired.

And even with LeBron James, but he's got that Marxist worldview and promotes all that stuff.

But all their top stars, from Luca Donkis to Nicola Yokis to Giannis Antos to Hupo to Joel MB,

they're all, I think the Shea Gildis, I think he's maybe from Canada.

All of these players are from foreign countries.

They bought into globalism.

They've surrendered

their American American traction and relevance.

And now the WNBA is loaded up with American-born players, including Angel Reese, including this woman, Asia Wilson, who's a great player.

And, of course, obviously Caitlin Clark.

And eventually, I would say three to five years from now, they will be as popular as the NBA.

And eventually will surpass the NBA because the NBA has, they bought into globalism.

They don't value American citizenship.

God, that's an incredible prediction.

Three to five years, you think, Jason?

That quickly?

Yeah, I really do because

once LeBlanc retires and Kevin Durant and Steph Curry,

they got nothing to offer us.

And I've seen this growing up in Indianapolis, Indiana, being an Indy 500 fan as a kid.

And open-wheel IndyCar Racing

in the 80s, early 90s, it went all international drivers.

And guess what?

NASCAR and stock car racing ended up surpassing IndyCar racing and the Indy 500 in terms of relevance and popularity in America.

Because NASCAR, stock car, had a bunch of American drivers, names you could pronounce,

and IndyCar has never recovered.

The Indi 500 now

is dwarfed by the Brickyard 400 right there in Indian Lapis.

This is where I grew up.

I watched all this in real time.

I saw the feud.

And so, yes, it will happen again.

It will happen in basketball.

Jason,

one thing watching this, because as you point out, I mean,

this is a lottery ticket for the WNBA, right?

Caitlin Clark comes out of nowhere and makes this league relevant.

I've spent most of my life just mocking it and never, ever paying attention to it.

Now I'm interested even because I love watching Caitlin Clark play.

It's just fun.

And it seems like the league and everyone in the media apparatus around it has done everything they could to try to destroy her since the moment she walked into the league, including acts of physical brutality to her on the court.

Why are they reacting this way to her?

Why are they rejecting this gift?

Well,

take the players on the court.

I'm going to offer them the excuse, hey, they're just competitive.

This is what athletes do.

They fight over turf.

And

it's, I get it.

They're petty, jealousy.

And again, the white players, Diana Taurasi, Breonna Stewart, they all had catty things to say about her, Caitlin Clark, when she entered the league.

I get.

the players.

They want to be more popular.

You know, it happens in sport.

The media, the media is just stupid.

And it's controlled by leftists and Marxists.

And the media should, because it's actually a great story in terms of what, you got a good guy and you got a bad guy.

Angel Reese is the bad guy.

Caitlin Clark is the good guy.

And people are kind of drawn to that.

And then we're watching Caitlin Clark to see her beat up the bad guy.

Angel Reese and expose the gap between them.

That's actually good.

The media is the one that has portrayed Angel Reese as the good guy and Caitlin Carr more so her fans.

Her fans, they're the bad guys.

They represent a part of America that needs to be destroyed and shut down.

The media just has failed to tell this story properly.

And so I blame the media and some of the old former players, Cheryl Swoops, has made a complete fool of herself.

But, you know, we've seen this before.

We saw it with Jackie Robinson in 1947.

Stu, you and I were just, you know, we weren't even around then.

Glenn was probably.

I wasn't either.

But we've seen this before with Jackie Robinson coming into Major League Baseball.

And I wrote at the very beginning of the season, people thought I was crazy.

I was like, hey, look, Kaylin Clark's not going to face death threats like Jackie Robinson.

but

she's going to face as much, if not more, resistance to her rise as Jackie Robinson.

This is going to be more difficult because by the time you throw in the sexual politics that Caitlin Clark, again, she's got a boyfriend.

She's growing up in the Catholic Church.

You've got to believe she's Christian.

That doesn't play.

The WNBA has been a lesbian atheist league for a long time.

And so she's facing resistance on all fronts that her struggle is just as difficult.

It's not as dangerous, but it's just as difficult as Jackie Robinson's.

And people love an underdog story.

People love to see Jackie Robinson was the good guy and to see him overcome all that.

We love it.

And so we love

Caitlin Clark.

And, you know, I will say there's a lot of black men

who love Caitlin Clark and just have thrown out the racial idolatry aspect of like, man, this girl can hoop and ball, and it's a great story.

It does appear to be like black women and the media, regardless of color and gender, are having the biggest problem with Caitlin Clark.

Jason, thank you so much.

You can watch Jason Whitlock.

You can watch him on Blaze TV.

He is going in to record his show show for today and have much more on all of this stuff.

Jason Whitlock, thank you so much.

God bless.

Back in a minute.

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You know, as you look at the

policies of the Biden-Harris administration, and then you see that Kamala Harris will not say whether she's going to sign her own EV mandate bill.

Of course she is.

She won't share her current viewpoint and current position on reparations, but she's always been for those.

Of course she's going to.

You know, the border, she is for open borders.

What do you think is going to happen?

What do you think she's going to do?

She is also the most pro-abortion advocate.

to ever be anywhere close to the White House.

She is the first vice president to ever go to an abortion clinic and make happy talk with everybody in the

honestly in the death chamber of

Planned Parenthood.

But if you think you're going to have a voice and be able to do anything about abortion, I think you're sadly mistaken if she wins.

You know, one of the things that nobody seems to be talking about or caring about is the fact that they are, the DOJ is

taking glee in prosecuting anybody who shows up to try to stop women from having an abortion.

And they've been, you know,

charged with violating the FACE Act.

However, they're doing something else.

They are using the KKK Act

to charge as well as somebody who is trying to stop your civil right.

It was something developed for the Klan.

And we're now using this to get 10 years plus in prison for anybody who goes to March for Life.

Steve Crampton is with us now.

Steve is with the Thomas More Society, senior counsel, and he has been on this beat and trying to fight it in court.

How's the fight coming, Steve?

Well, Glenn, it wouldn't be a rosy report I could furnish.

The

Biden-Harris DOJ, as you indicated, has ramped up criminal prosecutions against peaceful pro-life demonstrators against abortion in a way we have never seen before.

According to my calculations, since 2011, there have been a total of about 51 criminal prosecutions.

35, 35 of those have been since the overturning of Roe against Wade in 2022 by the Biden-Harris administration.

And as you indicate, they have thrown the book at these guys, including this 10-year felony conspiracy against rights charge.

We just had

guilty verdicts handed down in another criminal face case in Detroit here at the end of August.

We're still fighting those charges.

The court has graciously allowed us time to really brief and argue the fact that this statute has no bearing in the context of a peaceful sit-in, is what it amounts to, a violation of the FACE Act.

So we're still fighting those,

but it's brutal.

Let's go back for just a second on the Klan Act.

It is

the Ku Klux Klan Act.

It was passed in 1870 to guard the rights of African Americans to go in and vote.

So, how are they applying this here?

It's incredible.

The statute says if two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in the free exercise of their rights

guaranteed by the Constitution or the laws of the United States.

So, they take that or the laws of the United States and say, hey, the FACE Act is a law of the United States.

These people have agreed to come in and engage in this sit-in, thereby intimidating or oppressing folks trying to get an abortion.

Ergo, we can charge them with this conspiracy violation.

So it, you know, on the face of the act, Glenn, it really does seem to apply.

But the fact of the matter is, and the U.S.

Supreme Court in a very recent case, Fisher against the United States, decided the end of June, the end of this last term, 2024, that, hey, you can't just willy-nilly take these old statutes with generic, very broad language and ratchet them down against a newly enacted act like the FACE Act, where the intent of Congress is clearly not to allow such things.

There were great debates in Congress in 1994 when they tried to enact, for the first time in our nation's history, a federal law that criminalizes peaceful civil disobedience, you know, the time-honored tradition that we've enjoyed for our nation's history.

And they directly ask, okay, so somebody that's engaged in this kind of nonviolent sit-in action, they can't be charged with a felony?

Answer, absolutely not.

And yet, here we are, only under the Biden administration, do you import Section 241, the Conspiracy Against Rights, KKK Act, for use against pro-lifers only.

So, so

I have a feeling that we haven't seen anything yet, Steve.

Yeah, that the mask is coming off.

They've all but told us exactly who they are.

Remember, they were running a moderate last time.

This time, if you're paying attention at all, they're not telling you what she's going to do for a reason.

They won't explain her flip-flops for a reason.

And

we know who she is, and she is

massively

anti-pro-life.

And I just have this feeling, Steve, and please tell me this is hyperbole, that I could see in the next four years if she wins, you don't have a right to say anything about abortion.

Glenn, I wish I could disagree with you there.

As you lay out, this is, I think, the most overtly, avidly, obsessively pro-abortion candidate we have ever seen.

And she can't wait.

She falls all over herself in spite of her strict controllers trying to hold her back when it comes to the issue of abortion.

And remember, by the way, just this week, there's a new report of the FBI's utter failure to act, even in the context of sexual abuse and human trafficking of children.

They are

too busy, apparently, combing through age-old Facebook records of gentle pro-life Christians trying to find ways to come in with the SWAT teams and arrest them rather than looking after the lives and sexual well-being of our children.

I mean, it's unbelievable where we are and the priorities of the weaponized DOJ and FBI.

Steve,

let me just ask the listener to pray for you and the Thomas More Society for everything that you're doing.

But also,

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Steve, thank you.

Thank you so much, Glenn.

God bless you.

God bless you.

The rights that are on the line

this time around

are numerous.

When you look at what they have done to Donald Trump,

they have used and abused the FBI, the Justice Department, our intelligence agencies.

They have all lied to us about Russia collusion, et cetera, et cetera.

And I know if you're a Democrat, you're shaking your head saying, no, that wasn't a lie.

It was a lie.

It was a provable

lie.

You might have missed.

uh you know some of the uh reporting that went on because

the mainstream media ran it once and then just moved on.

But everyone admits now that that was a lie.

Clinton was involved in it.

Biden was involved in it.

Obama was involved in it.

This has become an oligarchy.

And people that are voting for Kamala Harris, I believe, are

ill-informed.

But I also believe they have just been trained Orange Man Bad.

And so they will vote for anything, even somebody they don't know or like.

You don't,

Americans don't even know who she is.

But she is a rabid

anti-pro-lifer.

And if you don't think that these people will put you in jail using an old law from 1870 to stop the Ku Klux Klan,

these people have nothing on their hands to do all day except find ways to destroy our rights.

And if that sounds like hyperbole, you're not paying attention.

Look at the way they're going after anybody who stands in their way.

Anybody.

President Trump.

That's incredible.

You know, people say, well, he's a felon.

Is he?

Is he?

Because that's going to be overturned.

Is he a felon?

And if he was a felon, what exactly was he a felon on?

I know he was 32 counts, but it was the same thing over and over again, just for different papers, different months of putting it into a ledger.

Nobody's ever been tried on that.

That's ridiculous.

And the man has been investigated by every single service, intelligence service in all five eyes and all of our enemies.

Everyone,

everyone did research on him.

Well, if he's done this, what else has he done?

Apparently nothing.

Because if this is the best you have after five or six years of digging and digging and digging you got nothing nothing

and if they will persecute him

you don't think they'll do that to you if they will go after the guy who is a

the biggest manufacturer of electric cars when they say the biggest thing we have to do is get rid of all of our cars and have electric cars they'll go after him because he disagrees with them on Donald Trump.

They will try to put him out of business because of his Trump connection and also because he believes in free speech.

Where's America?

What are you voting for?

Because you're not voting for this country.

You're not voting for our Constitution.

You're not voting for our Bill of Rights.

You may think you are, but it's because you haven't boned up on what's really going on.

And in some ways, I can't blame you because the mainstream media either calls everything a conspiracy theory and then goes on a year later to go, oh, yeah, that is true.

Or you've just stuck your head in the sand.

And for that, I have no sympathy.

But please,

I'd rather avoid what I think in some ways we deserve.

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We don't know how many millions of illegals are in this country right now, let alone how many more are going to get through before we finally seal the border.

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We have Eric Berger on in just a minute.

You may not know him by name, but

he has probably done more

one-on-one work or documenting of Elon Musk than maybe anybody else.

In the early days of SpaceX, he was there and saw all of the trials and tribulations and how they pulled their butt out of the fire, literally,

several times.

You know, it was 10 years ago Boeing was the number one company to go to for space.

Now,

SpaceX, 10 years ago while Boeing was number one, SpaceX was just getting their feet underneath them and having, you know, all kinds of problems.

Now,

Elon Musk is going to save our astronauts from a boeing product it's it's incredible and the the guy is under attack

from everyone look at what he's doing he is standing up for freedom of speech he is reinventing space travel

He is also

the guy who is saving the planet, if you go that direction, with electric cars.

He's reinvented the car industry.

All three of those things as individual things are massive.

And he's doing them

all at the same time.

Should be something for the left and the right and all of us to agree on on the massive advances that he's made.

And yet,

we got to get him.

Got no room

to compromise.

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If we're gonna survive,

stand up straight

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You know, when Leonardo Capri DiCaprio, when Leonardo da Vinci

needed to flee the the Pope's summer residence in the middle of the night, It was because he was, they thought at the time, violating the most sacred things by doing vivisections of human bodies to understand how the human body worked.

But when Galileo was saying, No, you know what, you're just wrong.

I don't think we have the sun going around us.

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If

a great inventor like Elon Musk, I'm sorry, like

Thomas Edison

was going to do things,

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It's why he destroyed Nikolai Tesla.

The guy we think is a good guy,

Thomas Edison,

he was a villain

in my book.

Well, we're doing it again.

Elon Musk

is doing more to save freedom of speech than anyone I know.

He has done more

for space and to make it accessible to people more than Wernher von Braun, I believe.

He is also trying to save the planet by reinventing the car industry with Tesla.

And he's doing all three of them at the same time.

And yet, he's an enemy of the state.

Lock him in a tower.

We talked to a guy who has been following SpaceX in particular, Eric Berger.

He's with Ars Technica.

He's a senior space editor, but also the author of a book called Lift Off.

If you want to know what it was like in the early days of SpaceX, Lift Off is your book.

Eric joins me in 60 seconds.

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Eric, it's a pleasure to have you on the program.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

You bet.

So

am I that far off on putting

Elon Musk into the Tesla, I hate to say it, but Edison for the credit he gets,

you know, or

even a Galileo.

He is a visionary of our time that I think has changed so much of our lives.

And he doesn't get the credit.

In fact, he gets a lot of grief because of it.

Elon, I would say, is definitely a visionary.

He sees the world as he would like it to be in terms of space travel, in terms of electric vehicles,

as you said, in terms of free speech.

I think perhaps more significantly than that even is he's a disruptor.

You know, he's really disrupted the automotive industry and especially the space industry.

So,

you know, you're seeing what's going on.

I want to talk to you about with Boeing and stuff, but let me just first start with

on freedom of speech.

He is being attacked now in Europe, in Brazil, like nobody's business.

And the United States government is actually helping those countries attack him.

He doesn't seem to bat an eye at it.

He seems like, I mean, if he had to go to jail for freedom of speech, he's going to jail.

It's an absolute with him.

Is that his personality?

He doesn't do well with regulations, you know,

on the space side of things.

Like, he's been always hemmed in by the Federal Aviation Administration and other things like that.

And he has always sought to go through

those kinds of agencies.

It's interesting with his purchase of Twitter is he's really sort of amped up the regulatory environment, and especially in places like Europe, Brazil, and other places, is he's really run into a thicket of regulations.

And so, in the past, it always has worked that he has been able to

push through.

And

maybe he'll run into harder walls in these different environments.

I don't know.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

So, let me talk about one of the things that he's doing that I just don't think people understand.

Boeing, my entire life, my uncle was

one of the heads of

safety and quality control at Boeing in Auburn

as I was growing up.

And my family, lots of people worked at Boeing, and they were very, very proud.

It was an engineering company.

And

it was a company that all Americans believed in.

You know, you felt comfortable on a Boeing.

I was talking to a pilot.

uh what last weekend and i said how comfortable you are are you on this uh boeing and he said, wish it was an Airbus.

I never heard that before in my life.

Now, 10 years have gone by.

Boeing was the one that was leading in space.

And now Elon Musk is going to rescue

the pilots of that Boeing spacecraft because they don't trust that it's going to be able to come down safely.

That's remarkable.

I agree.

It's absolutely remarkable.

And it's a complete turn of fate over the last 10 to 15 years when Boeing was not just a commercial aviation, but was the gold standard of spaceflight.

They were NASA's most important contractor.

And SpaceX were kind of the upstarts.

Lots of people in the agency, certainly in the human spaceflight community, did not trust them.

And now here we are 10 years later.

And Crew Dragon is NASA's only ride to space for its astronauts.

And yeah, Starliner had some pretty serious thruster issues,

Boeing's spacecraft, on the way to the space station.

And after a couple of months of study, NASA said, we don't feel comfortable bringing Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams back on Starliner, so we're going to fly a crew dragon vehicle up to bring them back.

So can we talk a little bit about what was wrong with the spacecraft?

I mean, I remember when it took off, I said on the air, boy, do they know they're flying in a Boeing?

And I said, if

this goes wrong, I can't imagine how Boeing stays in business.

I mean,

if they blew up on, you know, exit or re-entry, it would be the death of Boeing.

And I don't, you know, I suddenly don't hear very much about Boeing in the news.

What happened to this spacecraft?

What was wrong with it?

So even before it launched, it had a helium leak.

This basically pressurizes the propulsion system.

But it was a small leak, and so NASA decided it was okay to launch.

It developed more helium leaks on the way to the space station, but it turned out that wasn't really the biggest problem.

The problem was that five of the small thrusters,

the RCS thrusters that help point and orient the spacecraft and are critical to docking with the space station and backing away from it, failed on the way.

And so NASA has essentially been conducting some ground tests with Boeing to try to assess the problem.

And they just haven't been able to understand the root cause of those failures.

And so they can't be sure that when, you know, if the astronauts were to try to fly home in it, that there would not be more problems and they would lose control of the spacecraft.

Right.

Because this

positioning system,

there's a very tight angle on re-entry that you have to hit or you'll burn up, right?

And is that what we're afraid of?

There's two really critical phases of flight.

First is backing away from the space station.

Basically, you know, this is a a hundred billion dollar piece of hardware.

There's, you know,

several astronauts and cosmonauts on board the space station, so you don't want to hit the space station.

But then you're right.

You've got to pre-position yourself precisely to come back where you want to land.

Starliner is supposed to land in white sands, New Mexico.

And if you get the angle or position wrong, you come down somewhere, you know, could be a populated area, could be an ocean, certainly where people aren't prepared to get to the

So the Dragon capsule, this is what's going to go pick them up, and this is brand new or not?

No, no.

SpaceX has flown more than a dozen crewed missions

to space.

This is actually the ninth operational mission for NASA on Crew Dragon.

So they've been flying Dragon since May of 2020 with people.

Who else is in competition for space?

In the United States, it's really SpaceX and then all the rest.

There are some other interesting private companies out there that are trying to do things,

but SpaceX is probably a decade ahead of a lot of their competitors.

Really, if you look across the world, the only real competitor to SpaceX and NASA is China, and it has a quasi-commercial space industry that's advancing and rising as well.

They're actually trying to copy a lot of what SpaceX is doing with both the Falcon rockets and the Starship, big Starship rockets they're building.

I bet.

I bet the Chinese are all over everything that Elon Musk does.

So is he still on schedule and still planning on going to Mars?

We have to go to the moon first and develop a base, right?

Yeah, it's

and it's the Starship vehicle that they're building in South Texas.

You know, your listeners may have seen some of those launches.

They are making steady progress there.

But it's going to be a while before humans launch and land on Starship because that vehicle

is pretty ambitious.

And so they've got to do a lot of testing on it.

So I do think that we are on a path to sending humans to Mars and eventually settle Mars, but we're not talking years.

We're probably talking decades down the line.

So, Eric,

you know, as the senior space editor of Ars Technica, I think you could answer this question.

First of all, it's a two-part question.

The first one's really easy and if it's complex we have a problem but uh did

did we land on the moon yes or no of course we did yes okay good thank you thank you i cannot believe how many people i mean really smart people uh that i know who have lost their faith in almost everything are now even questioning if we went to the moon.

And I can't take it.

I just can't take it.

But one of the questions that they keep saying is,

Glenn, we did this in the 60s.

Why is it so hard?

Why are these spacecraft, why are they having such a hard time even getting up to the space station, let alone the moon?

Could you answer that question, Eric?

Yeah, absolutely.

And that's a great question.

And the answer is that in the 1960s, you know, we spent 5% of the federal budget on this for the better part of a decade and 200,000 people.

And it was a national imperative to beat the Soviets to the moon.

There is not that geopolitical impetus behind going back to the moon.

And so you've got to do it for less money and find other reasons.

And the reasons that NASA has settled on, and I think these are very valid good reasons, is that we're going to go to the moon to stay.

The Apollo program was canceled because

the missions were super expensive.

And we did it six times.

And what was the point of continuing to go back?

And so now we're trying to go back more sustainably.

And that just means lower cost missions, go there for longer periods, and eventually build up a base on the South Pole of the Moon.

And why would we do that?

Well, there's a couple of reasons.

There is a geopolitical reason.

China is trying to do the very same thing.

They've partnered with Russia and some other countries,

such as Iran, Venezuela, to build a research station at the South Pole of the Moon.

And

the reality is that the South Pole is the most interesting part of the moon from a resources standpoint.

We do believe there's ice, water ice, at the poles, and potentially other interesting resources as well that we can tap.

And really, I mean,

it is the next point on the horizon.

There are lots of strategic reasons to be on the moon or near the moon in terms of having a vantage point to look back at Earth.

And there will, you know, satellites you could...

Theoretically, you could send weapons from beyond lunar orbit that would be very difficult for our existing assets to track coming back to the planet.

And so having vantage points out there is very important.

Can I ask you to hang for just one more minute?

And because I want to do a follow-up question on that.

We're talking to Eric Berger.

He's with Ars Technica.

He's the senior space editor and also the author of a couple of books, really, really good, all about SpaceX.

The first one is

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So, Eric, the Chinese are landing on the dark side of the moon.

And this is really a strategically important place.

Why?

So they did land on the far side of the moon.

The moon is not dark.

There's just a side that we do not see that is sometimes illuminated by the sun and sometimes not.

But it's important because it had never been done before.

And so that was really a

strategic demonstration of their abilities.

It's not a place

in the base.

It's so hard because you don't have direct line of sight communications.

So you have to put a relay spacecraft in orbit around the moon that can that can link you back to Earth.

And so

when our astronauts landed on the moon, we had stations all around Earth that could talk to it at various times.

But far side, we don't have those direct line of communications.

And that because of that, it makes it strategically important as well if you're looking out into space, if you're looking back in time, correct?

Because there's no interference.

Yeah, for radio astronomy and things like that, it definitely is important.

But I think for Chinese, really the point list is to tell their people is we just did something that the great NASA never did.

So

we're moving ahead of what the Americans could do.

I think that's really why they did it.

Are we that close with China?

Who's closest to us and

how close is it?

So

NASA is still substantially ahead of China in what it can do from an exploration standpoint, but China has definitely made significant gains in the last 10 to 15 years.

And

if NASA takes a misstep or two, they will catch up and potentially surpass us.

So

when you say NASA, are you including SpaceX or is that separate?

Yeah, it includes SpaceX.

SpaceX is now NASA's most important contractor,

and the two are pretty well intertwined.

The Artemis program to go back to the moon, SpaceX plays an important part of that as well.

And is Artemis going to go to the moon?

That's the plan.

The Artemis landing sometime later this decade.

They say 2026, but there's no way that's happening, Glenn.

Probably before the end of the decade.

There's just a lot of different elements that have to come together.

The Orion spacecraft has to prove that its heat shield works.

SpaceX has to get its Starship vehicle flying

quite frequently.

We still need to develop spacesuits for the lunar surface.

And the overall architecture of the mission, the design, is pretty complex.

How much do you think the astronauts in the Boeing played a role on?

Like, I'm not getting back into that thing.

I'm not going back.

It's a good question.

I think that they're test pilots.

They were going to do what they're told.

But the astronaut office here in Houston certainly had its concerns.

Yeah, yeah, so would I.

Thank you so much, Eric.

Appreciate it.

And keep looking up.

God bless you.

Thank you.

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We've absolutely lost our mind.

You know, we've been talking for years now about the

four dams, hydroelectric dams, that were, you know, they wanted to tear them down and get them out because of the indigenous peoples and the salmon.

And so they said that this was really, you know, hurting the salmon.

And

it may have been.

In fact, I think it's hard to make the claim that it didn't.

But it was four hydroelectric dams.

Did you ever hear that?

Did you even hear about this?

This is the largest dam removal project in American history.

Four dams.

CNN just reported the largest dam removal project in the U.S.

history is finally complete after crews last week demolished the last of four dams on the Klamath River.

It's a significant win for tribal nations.

Good for them.

Good for them.

Four hydroelectric dams.

Gone.

Well, it's going to be fun to see how we get water and,

you know,

give irrigation to those farms and produce power for the Pacific Northwest.

But don't worry about it.

I'm sure it's no big deal.

Chip Roy is with us.

I want to talk to him about the SAVE Act.

Chip, how are you, sir?

Doing great, Gwen.

I wish I was with you, but I'm happily in Austin.

Oh, okay.

Well, Austin's,

it is Austin, but it's still Texas.

So, Chip, talk to me about the SAVE Act.

This is,

I cannot believe that the Democrats are standing against this

in a time

when we all are worried about the election integrity.

And they're saying we don't need to pass this act because we already have laws on the books that say non-citizens can't vote.

How disingenuous is that?

Well, it's disingenuous because as you know, as I know, as your listeners know, Democrats have no interest whatsoever in ensuring election integrity.

And in fact, they want the opposite.

They want non-citizens to vote.

That's what this is all about.

They've effectively said so.

Now they're going to, during the campaign season, they're going to hide behind, oh, there's no problem here, right?

You heard Mark Kelly from Arizona go, oh, this is a solution in search of a problem.

Meanwhile, you have 6,500 non-citizens cleaned off the Texas rolls in the last couple of years.

You have 6,300 cleaned off Virginia's rolls.

You have thousands cleaned off of other states' rolls.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Because if we actually had the tools to go, you know, discover the problem, which the SAVAC would provide by requiring that when you register to vote, this is a novel concept, Glenn.

You can't believe this crazy stuff, this radical stuff, that when you register to vote, you just need to demonstrate you're a citizen.

Democrats oppose it.

Now, I will note, five Democrats voted for our bill in July when we passed it.

All Republicans voted for it.

But again, this is all all about control.

That's what the climate agenda is all about.

That's what the environmental agenda is all about.

They're all connected.

That's where they're tearing the dams down.

This is all about control, empowering the government.

This is all of the Marxism, the communism, the statism, the totalitarianism that Reagan fought, but that we are not remotely close to completing.

They're on the market because they live among us.

That's the problem.

So, how can they say that there's no problem here in Arizona in particular?

In 2020, 11,600 no proof of citizenship required federal ballots were cast in Arizona.

Joe Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

So there were more non-citizens voting, and we know the non-citizens almost always vote for the Democrats.

How is this not a problem?

Well, it's not a a problem if you're a Democrat who wants power.

That's the point.

I think the thing that I, you know, you know, you opened this segment talking about those dams.

You know, we could do a whole segment, and you talk about it all the time about what's happening in the United Kingdom, the takeover that's happening there, what's happening in Ireland, what's happening in Germany.

It's real.

This isn't fake.

It's not like the churches are just magically, oh, yeah, those churches aren't burning in France.

It's not like, oh, yeah, that church in Ireland last week caught fire.

Oh, that's just a coincidence.

Like, this is happening and it's happening right now the only reason we're slightly not as bad as europe is the massive oceans on either side of us but with the increase of air travel with the poorest border america is only a nanosecond behind europe so our whole point on the save act is to call their bluff and to force the question now i i got to say because i know that some of your listeners strong awesome conservatives are hearing a few of my conservative colleagues and some pundits say Gosh, why are we going to do a continuing resolution?

We hate continuing resolutions.

Why would we support that?

Well, here's why.

I don't like continuing resolutions.

I think they're garbage.

Except, if I have the chance right now, heading into an election season, and I know we're not going to pass all 12 appropriations bills because a lot of our colleagues refuse to cut spending.

Democrats won't work with us.

We can't get all Republicans across the finish line.

We've only passed five of the 12.

My theory is this.

I don't want to have a lame duck CR in December.

That's what the appropriators, that's what Mitch McConnell, that's what they want.

They want that pressure of Christmas.

Christmas tree.

They want the Christmas tree bill.

So let's do a CR into March.

Let's attach the SAVE Act.

Let's tell our Democratic colleagues, guys, we have funded your precious, god-awful government that we hate the EPA and we hate all of the stuff with the FBI and we hate the Secret Service failing to do its job and we hate the open borders.

We're We're funding your government at current levels through March.

We're going to fight and fix this.

When Donald Trump wins in November, and we have the House and the Senate, we'll see you on Election Day in November.

You're going to vote for this with election integrity, or you're going to be the ones who decide to shut the government down.

I'm happy to have that.

I am thrilled to have that.

You don't have a country if you have illegals voting.

You won't have a country if you can't get this basic thing down, that that citizens are the only ones to vote uh and if it's already been done then they should have no problem voting for it no problem whatsoever you you just you would look at the other side if that were true you would look at the other side and you go if that's what you want if that's what it's going to take okay

but they know it's not true And the Republicans, do you really think the Republicans are going to have the spine to stand up for this?

Well, I think that all depends on President Trump.

And I don't mean that as a question about his fortitude.

We know his fortitude, right?

I mean, he got shot and he stood right back up.

I think the question here is whether or not the president is going to decide that it is in the strategic interest of him and the party and the house and the senate for us to carry on the shutdown fight from October 1st to Election Day.

If he wants to do that, and if we, you know, that's the right thing for us to do, I'm all in.

Let's go.

But we'll make a decision on October 1.

You know what I think about it.

Hell,

I would pick a fight on bigger things.

I would have HR2 on it.

I would defund some stuff and I would send them a funding bill and I'd go send it to the American people and say, here are our priorities.

If Democrats don't like it, make that the Election Day issue.

Look, I'm going to be blunt.

I'm going to be honest.

I don't lie.

We have some colleagues who are in tight districts who will come into our conference and say, guys, I can't win the election if we have a shutdown and a quarter of my constituents or 10% or whatever are either not getting

their paychecks because they're a government employee or they're not getting some benefit or they're whatever.

So we're going to have that fight inside the Republican conference in September.

I would fight.

I always will pick that fight.

But I'm happy to try to figure out how we navigate to get to November 5th.

But the starting place for that conversation is get the government spending past.

Christmas so the appropriators and the uniparty swamp dwellers on both parties can't screw the American people and pick a fight on the SAVE Act.

I'll trust President Trump to land the plane strategically.

You know, do we come up with some solution on September 30th and then campaign on it?

Do we let it shut down for a week or two or all the way to November 5th?

I'm game for any of those options, provided that we fight, provided that we put up a fight, demonstrate the fight, and campaign on it.

Democrats are taking your country away, people.

We should act like it.

I'm fine if it shuts down, but I'm going to defer to some degree on President Trump and how he wants to lead.

He's the leader of the party right now.

Yeah, no, the leader has to, he has to be part of it.

If he waffles it all, it'll all fall apart.

How are we doing in Congress for the elections?

It looks not so great.

Well, you know, look, here's the one thing I'll tell you, because a lot of the people that you and I, our friends, your listeners, they'll come to me out on the campaign trail and they'll say, well, why should I bother voting?

I mean, they're going to rig the election.

Well, there's one way to guarantee we lose the election, and that's to not show up.

So you have to show up.

The second thing is we've got to be too big to rig.

President Trump has said that.

He's right.

Show up in overwhelming numbers.

Demonstrate that we want our country back.

If all of your listeners, families, friends,

you know, churchmates, all the people that they've dragged their family and their kids and everything, vote, we'll win.

And we'll win in overwhelming numbers.

Let's overwhelm them.

Now, I know that's all sort of big talk.

The third point really is we've got to stand for something.

And I want Republicans to be united in this in the fall.

That's why I think having the CR and the SAVE Act is a good fight.

But it is a tight election.

I'm going to tell you, it's tighter than it should be.

That's because we have a divided country.

It's because of our education system has been corrupting our youth now for at least two or three generations.

It's because of some of the questions of all of the ballots and all of the mail-in ballots and the ballot harvesting and all of that.

We've improved it some since 2020.

Texas, Georgia, other states that have notably made some changes.

Wisconsin is still not great.

Pennsylvania is still a question.

Arizona is kind of some good, some bad.

So we're going to have to do what we need to do to make sure we have poll watchers.

I know the RNC, Laura Trump, Michael Watley, they've been working on making sure we've got the lawyers in place.

We were flat-footed in 2020.

But I'm just telling everybody on the ground, get out and vote.

Overwhelm them, right?

And that's the best way to guarantee the outcome that we need to have.

But the short answer answer to your question is: the presidential is a is a corn coin-tossed lean Trump.

The House is a probable that we end up roughly where we are with a very thin majority, but we could

get you.

The Senate, we should take, but it'll be 51, two, or three.

So, we got to do our work to boost those numbers and make sure Ted Cruz wins and me and everybody else.

You know, when you have Kamala Harris

bussing people in to, I think it was New Hampshire for her rally,

I mean, like 30 buses of people were shipped in from another state.

That shows you something.

That shows you that this is not real.

And, you know, I'm hoping that the discouragement of the Democrats, that they start seeing these things,

you know, there are so many encouraging signs that we are right at the tipping point here, where just a little more of this and it's over for the Democrats.

But if they win in this fall,

Chip, I don't know how America makes it.

I mean, everything that they've been planning for this global government, all of this stuff, it hits next year.

Yeah, I mean, Glenn, I could go down a parade of horribles.

We know about the 5.5 million people that have been released.

We know about the fentanyl.

We know about the international organizations, the 2 million gotaways.

We know about the cartel's reach.

We know about what you're talking about, the United Nations, the World Health Organization, all of the crap they're doing, what they're doing, reparations.

You know what nobody's talking about?

Record numbers of citizens that have been made and processed during this administration, moving people through the citizenship path.

I don't know who they are or where they're from.

We're trying to get that information.

They want to remake America.

This election is a worldview election.

This is about your way of life.

This isn't about any personalities one way or the other.

If you love Trump, if you're not a big fan, I don't really give a damn.

What I care about is we need to save freedom.

President Trump loves America, loves freedom.

He wants us to have this country for us and for the people.

He doesn't have to be doing this.

And, you know, look, I've been on your show where I've disagreed with him.

I don't, I don't, you know, I don't mince words, but, but.

Opposition in all things.

It's required.

It's required.

This is not a hard question.

We have a job to do.

Let's go save our country for our kids and grandkids.

Because if Kamala Harris is the president on January 20th, we're in real trouble.

We're in epic trouble.

We're in 1850s type trouble.

And we have got to make sure that we do our part to solve that problem right now by overwhelming the Democrats at the polls.

Don't listen to all of the naysayers.

It can and probably will be a close election.

I hope we stretch it out and run through the tape.

But the only way to do that is show up now.

Thank you so much.

Please stay in touch with me when if there's anything the audience can do, please.

The Safe Act, SAVE Act has got to go through.

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You know, what's happening in Aurora, Colorado is coming.

There's some new video out as they went into one of these apartment complexes that have been taken over by this Venezuelan gang.

Look at what the apartment looks like.

And

Stu, maybe you can do some play-by-play as you're walking in.

You're seeing this apartment complex.

It's just destroyed.

I mean, there's, you know, everything on the floor, couches ripped apart,

You know, everything.

Everything, the sink is just revolting, honestly.

You know, they just tore out all of the light switches, the outlets.

I mean, this is what's coming.

And they are demanding that people pay their rent directly to the Venezuelan game.

And where is the police on this?

Where are they?

Why is no one standing up on the federal government and saying enough is enough right now.

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