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Well, there's a couple of things that Donald Trump did yesterday to make news, and I think it's worth taking time to address.

Cut six, here's Donald Trump on a six-week Florida ban.

If you're a resident grow and you want abortion to be a states' rights issue, in Florida, the state that you are a resident of, there's an abortion-related amendment on the ballot to overturn the six-week ban in Florida.

How are you going to vote on that?

Well, I think the six-week is too short.

It has to be more time, and so that's, and I've told them that I want more weeks.

So you'll vote in favor of the amendment?

I'm voting that I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks.

Look, just so you understand.

Everybody wanted Roe v.

Wade terminated for years, 52 years.

I got it done.

They wanted to go back to the States.

Exceptions are very important for me, for Ronald Reagan, for others that have navigated this very, very interesting and difficult path.

Okay, so why is he doing that?

Everybody thought he was going to be the greatest pro-life president.

I never did.

I was shocked that Roe versus Wade actually was overturned.

And let's be honest about it.

He didn't do that.

He appointed the justices that did that.

But I don't think that that was his main thing when he was picking justices, who's going to be pro-life.

And then they got the right

verdict, right case came in, and they gave the right verdict.

But he has always been somebody who is wanting exceptions.

I don't agree with him,

but...

That's what the vote is all about.

Now, I just want to say, I believe if this is your critical issue,

I would ask that you

go out and campaign and vote in your state on the abortion bills.

You're voting for President of the United States.

This is a state issue.

He's not going to pass anything

that is a federal law.

I just don't see that happening.

Maybe he will.

But I will tell you this.

If you want to stand for life, if you have Kamala Harris, I believe you will go to jail.

I believe if you speak out online, it is going to become very draconian.

She is the most

shout-your-abortion president, presidential candidate we have ever, ever had.

Allie Bastucci is with us now to comment on this.

Allie.

Hi, Gladys.

Allie, are you there?

Hi.

Yes.

I know we caught you on vacation.

I'm so sorry.

I know you're out fishing, which I love.

But thanks for hopping on.

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you so much.

And I agree with everything that you said, every bit of it, both Kamala Harris and Trump's statement.

You know, this is politically miscalculated for Trump because the amendment is probably thankfully going to fail in Florida.

And the Trump campaign is coming out now and saying, you know, he didn't say exactly how he was going to vote.

That's the response that I'm getting on on X, but he did.

I mean, maybe he didn't mean it.

Maybe he'll vote another way, but he did say that he is voting to extend the weeks, which would be voting yes on Amendment 4, which does allow abortion through all nine months of pregnancy for virtually any reason in Florida.

So it's politically miscalculated as well as immoral.

So how do you

Because I hear people, I just don't think I can vote for Trump now.

And I'm like, are you out of your mind?

Right.

Do you agree with that?

No, I don't agree with that.

Now, I have friends, friends that I really respect.

Wait, wait, wait.

You don't agree with me?

Wait, wait.

You don't agree with what I just said or the people?

Go ahead.

I don't agree with not voting for Donald Trump.

I still support Donald Trump for a variety of reasons.

One of them for the reason that you said that, yes, Donald Trump is not nearly as pro-life as I want him to be.

And I want to use whatever political capital we pro-lifers have to push him in the direction of life.

The difference between him and Kamaloy Harris is that we actually have the opportunity to do that if Donald Trump is president, not only because of him, but also because of the people that I believe that he surrounds himself with, the judges and the justices that he may appoint.

With Kamaloy Harris, we not only have no in, we have no influence whatsoever, but as we've seen, While she was AG of California, while she was even district attorney of San Francisco, while she was the furthest left senator when she was in the Senate, is that she is openly hostile and vindictive towards pro-lifers.

Anyone can ask David DeLeid him what that has been like.

And so we're looking at the threatening of the 501c3 status for every pro-life organization.

We are looking at the chilling of pro-life speech.

We are looking at the continuation of and the doubling down of weaponizing the DOJ against pro-life grandmothers who are simply sharing the gospel in front of murder mills.

So that's Kamala Harris.

Do I wish that Donald Trump were more pro-life and was doing more and was making better decisions?

I wish that he would stop talking about it if he's not going to come out strong on the side of life.

I wish he would not get into the week's conversation and just say, I'm going to make America the best place on earth for moms and babies.

End of story.

He can pivot.

I mean, that's kind of PR 101.

He should just be doing that.

And so I have much more hope that the Donald Trump presidency will be much friendlier to the pro-life cause, to say the least, than Kamala Harris.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Last question.

He came out for IVF.

I think you're against IVF.

Well, IVF results in the destruction of millions of embryos every year.

I am absolutely for people becoming parents.

I do want more babies.

I think that's great.

But we have to acknowledge that America is the wild west of reproductive technology.

There are virtually no restrictions or regulations around the creation of embryos.

Those are little image bearers of God.

Life starts at fertilization.

They've got their own DNA.

And I do not want to subsidize IVF.

I understand that a lot of the country is not where I am.

I don't expect Donald Trump to personally be where I am on IVF.

But when you start saying that you are going to take the tax dollars of millions of Christians, millions of Catholics who are against the destruction of those embryos through IVF, and you're going to fund that, that becomes a problem.

Again, I just would like him to stop talking about it.

A deal breaker for you?

Is this a deal breaker for me?

No, it's not a deal breaker for me.

I mean, as you, I'm sure, agree, we've got so many issues economically with foreign policy, domestic policy.

immigration.

I still think Donald Trump and the policies that he represents represents order.

And I think Kamala Harris and the policies she represents represents disorder and chaos.

And I can't do that to my children and my children's children.

I've got to try to preserve the good that can be preserved and fought for.

And I think it's much more likely to be preserved and fought for in a Donald Trump presidency.

Allie, I have to first say to you, I am

so proud of you and I'm so happy for your success.

You have become

a force to reckon with.

And I just love that because

I know you.

It's you.

You're being you, and it's not some show.

And that's what makes people a success.

You're doing

an event in Dallas September 28th.

And I love this.

Share the arrows.

What exactly is this event?

Yeah, so this is an event for Christian women, and we are expecting hopefully about 5,000 Christian women to be there in Dallas, Texas.

It's at a large church there.

We've got several Christian speakers, apologists,

theologians, moms who are talking about how to contend with this crazy, chaotic culture that we live in through biblical truths and through biblical courage.

We've also got another huge speaker, a woman that we have not announced yet, that hopefully will be announced soon.

We've got worship led by Francesca Battistelli.

A woman can come by herself.

She can come with her friends.

She can come with her female family members.

There's going to be lots and lots of like-minded women.

And in this very crazy, turbulent election season, we just need to be able to look around, link arms, and say, you know what, whatever arrows the enemy is going to throw towards you, they can send them my way too.

When we have that kind of solidarity and courage, we can make a big difference.

You can see Allie's show on Blazetv.com slash Allie.

Also, find out all about ShareTheArrows at sharethearrows.com.

She sold thousands of tickets.

It is going to be one of those events like we used to hold where

people come together and you just make lifelong friends.

I think that's kind of the feeling that this is going to give to you as well.

SharetheArrows.com.

Allie, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you so much, Blen.

You bet.

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Welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Glenn, it's great to be with you.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah.

So thank you for the website.

Tell me about,

you know, tell me about the website.

Tell me why you guys came up with it.

And I'm really interested in hearing why you called it dangerously liberal.

Well, the reason we did this is precisely what you described about having a friend or a family member or a neighbor who just doesn't want to listen to the facts.

And so we were sitting around a few weeks ago and thinking, how is it that we can, as the Heritage Foundation, reinsert policies and ideas and facts back into this election cycle?

And so what we decided was no one's telling the truth about Vice President Kamala Harris's policy record, starting with her and her campaign.

And obviously the recent interview, if you can call it that, that she did, shed very little light on that.

So we decided as the largest conservative public policy organization in the world, it probably was our job to do that.

And so if you go to dangerouslyliberal.com, you can see her policy record as vice president literally on every issue.

As you mentioned at the top, it is something that's footnoted.

You know that we take great pride in the objectivity of our research.

Someone can go there and learn for themselves.

But why did we name it dangerously liberal?

Because also speaking objectively and just philosophically, not only is Vice President Harris the most liberal vice president we have ever had in our history?

She's dangerously so.

If you think about what she has done on the economy, on the border, on public safety in cities, on national security and foreign policy, if she were to do that as president of the United States, I think that America would be in danger.

Yeah,

I think so.

My question is more, and I'm a stickler on this.

She's not liberal.

I think she's not even progressive, but that would be a better word.

But she is a,

I mean, she's a socialist.

She is a socialist.

She is a radical, but probably dangerously liberal would be

more apt to get people to not think you're a radical.

So did you watch her last night?

I did.

You know, I was really trying to watch baseball, but my Atlanta Braves lost to the Phillies, unfortunately.

So I switched over to that interview.

And, you know, I was...

I was actually really intrigued, and so I watched the whole thing.

I was intrigued by the disaster that it was, both by the interviewer, frankly, and also the vice president.

So why do you say it was a disaster?

I believe it was a disaster for people like us that pay attention, but I'm not sure it is for the average American who just doesn't know her.

They're like, oh, she's nice.

Yeah, you're right about that.

It was a disaster for those of us looking for more policy depth, and it was a disaster for journalism because Dana Bash, who I do think, did a little bit better than I was expecting.

My expectations were.

Yeah, me too.

But I was disappointed in that she didn't follow up some of her really good questions with the kinds of questions that you would get or Donald Trump would get or any conservative.

But your point about

it not being a disaster for people who are just casual observers, if they were just tuning in for a few minutes or maybe they had the TV on and it was on mute, they see someone whose affect is seemingly joyful.

who's seemingly positive, who seems nice.

And you and I both know that the state of American society right now is is that there are a lot of Americans, perfectly good people, who just aren't tuned in enough to those policy issues to actually care.

And that's why we did this website to kind of come full circle in our motivation.

So I was watching her last night, and I recognize the tactic.

This is

a

tough but friendly interview.

So the campaign can then say, asked and answered, we're moving forward.

We're not looking at the past.

And I think that's what you're going to hear from them from here on out: is we're not talking about the past.

We're looking to the future.

You know, Donald Trump is in the past.

We're in the future.

And we want to keep this positive.

And I think that's going to actually be effective for, again, those people who don't pay attention.

But, Kevin, can you see

this economy and

the people of America, where it's always the economy stupid,

being brainwashed enough that they would vote for the people that brought them this economy, brought us to the brink of war?

I think that there is a near majority of Americans who, in fact, would vote that way.

You know, that we should not trust any individual poll.

But if you look at the trends across all of the different polling organizations, a few of them probably with pretty good methodology, the trend is really clear, which is that this fantasy land that has been created by the vice president that she's not been part of three and a half years of policy disaster somehow can look towards the future that's actually been effective thus far.

You know, for what it's worth, Glenn, although I'm a policy guy and not a campaign prognosticator, I've sensed that the only way to combat that for Mr.

Trump and Mr.

Vance is to do the precise thing that the vice president is trying to avoid, which is to have a policy conversation, to actually hold her accountable to the policy positions that she has.

And one final point on this, what reveals that, in fact, she wants to avoid that is the flip-flopping she's doing on fracking, on the economy, on national security.

You think about this convoluted answer about Israel and Palestine last night.

It's really, really important that Donald Trump in particular have the message discipline on policy that his running mate has had, I think, remarkably over the last few weeks.

Yeah, I think so too.

I mean, Donald Trump should start every answer and every speech, and it should be sprinkled throughout.

You know, our main focus is the economy.

This inflation is outrageous and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But let me talk about this.

If they're asking you another question, start with that.

I think they really have to be very clear on the economy and talk about the things that people are talking about, which is

my city isn't safe anymore.

My food is too expensive.

You know, the jobs are going elsewhere.

If he would be disciplined enough to talk about those things, and like you said,

almost be

just almost be a little, a little wonky by talking about this is what we're going to do because you're never going to hear that from Kamala and when you do celebrate because what they're saying they're going to do like price controls that's insanity

it is and and I think you know you're I think you're the best at the the high-level framing of how common sense conservatives can talk about their issues I think the the high-level framing for mr.

Trump and Mr.

Vance and for that matter conservative candidates ought to be security economic security which has not existed in the last three and a half years, security not just in inner cities, but in suburbs.

You talk about appealing to female voters.

Talk about the lack of security in a place like Aurora, Colorado, which basically is being overrun by gangs, as you know.

And then also, although it's

a sec, and a very dangerous gang.

This is a Venezuelan gang.

This is what they do.

They were sent here to cause turmoil and just take over neighborhoods.

That's what they do in Venezuela, and they're doing it here.

Yes, and for people who've not been to Aurora, Colorado, if this can happen in Aurora, this can happen wherever you are sitting.

It doesn't matter what your subdivision or neighborhood or suburb is.

And I think that President Trump has done a very good job in some of the interviews that he's done.

It's actually impressive for someone as busy as he is, and he's a very healthy 78, can do these hour-long, two-hour-long interviews.

The more he does that and the more he frames frames this decision facing Americans as being about restoring security in every respect.

What you and I are talking about regarding these Venezuelan gangs, economic security, national security, I think that is how you offset the vacuousness of the vice president's rhetoric.

Can I ask your opinion on something?

I saw a story today that, you know, California did something else crazy.

They banned any voter ID.

So now it's against the law in California to ask for any kind of ID at the voting booth, which is insanity.

And we know why they're doing that, to get illegals to vote.

But your first thought is, well, why?

That's already a blue state.

You only have a certain number of electoral

votes.

So what are you doing?

Well, I believe.

they are going to find these states where they can pile numbers in that they always win anyway, but they're going to pile them in because that will affect the popular vote.

So if Donald Trump does win electorally, they'll be able to come back and say, look at the margin here.

This is not democracy, to which I would reply, yes, you finally get it.

It's not a democracy.

It's a republic.

But

I think they're doing that to

ensure that if he does win, they have a reason to be on the streets.

Would you agree with that?

Man, you took your Bernal Launcher and hit the bullseye.

I mean, that is the center of, you see it, the center of the bullseye.

What we try to do at Heritage, as you do every day, is not only fight the policy fights that are right in front of us today and this week, but see around the corners.

And what's happening is that this is their attempt to pile up

as many votes as they can so that they can delegitimize a Trump Electoral College win.

And so just count on it, Glenn.

If Trump wins this election, which by the way, I still think he is in good shape to do, they will try to delegitimize everything he tries to do and the entire conservative movement with this national popular vote effort.

And obviously, if the opposite happens, if Ms.

Harris wins the election, they're going to work on that as well.

It's just going to take a little bit longer to get done.

Yeah, they'll just do it through Congress.

They're not going to make a big deal out of it,

at least at first.

Kevin, thank you so much.

Thanks for everything you guys are doing at Heritage.

I really appreciate it.

God bless.

Well, God bless you, brother.

Take care.

Thank you.

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We have

Dennis Wade on.

Dennis Wade.

Dennis Quaid.

Yeah, sorry, Dennis Quaid on my podcast.

We talk about Reagan, and I think it is a really refreshing conversation.

And then we go into, you know,

his politics.

You know, he voted for Jimmy Carter and then realized that mistake and voted for Ronald Reagan and it became his favorite president.

He has an,

I think, a kind of a sunny attitude towards the future.

And you want to watch this tonight.

Yeah, I'm really, you mentioned watching it instead of listening.

It looks great.

And it's kind of, you know, Dennis Quaid, of course, is a great actor and knows, you know, he knows how to work a camera for sure.

But it's like, look at this.

It's just him being authentic and honest.

And

it's important.

It's got me fired up to watch Reagan, too.

This is out to the end of the day.

Well, you're going to love it.

Yeah, you're going to love it.

Really?

You're going to love it.

Yeah.

You know, the story of Reagan has never been told by people who like Reagan.

Yeah.

You know, they've done these, they've done these, you know, TV movies on Reagan, but I mean, he is, he is one of the most beloved.

Even Democrats like, I mean, not all of them, but Democrats liked Reagan.

And he changed our world.

And it's a story that needs to be told.

And they tell it really, really well.

You're going to love it, Stu.

Make sure you go.

I'd love to hear your review on Monday.

Stories are so important to us.

And that is why it is so heartening to see what has been done with movies, et cetera, et cetera.

I have talked to

some of the best artists in the country over the last five years or so, and

many of them will tell me,

well, they won't necessarily say this out loud, we're not taught any of this stuff in, we're not taught storytelling in art school.

And we're encouraged to, you know,

be modern about everything.

And story, when I was over in England and I was looking at the stained glass windows and I saw the story of England and the story of Christ in all of the windows, you know, you don't feel this way in America.

But when you were standing in something that was, you know, from the 12th century, you realize

this is how they told stories.

This is how people, they couldn't read.

This is how they understood what was going on.

We have now gone to a society and artists that

are not telling a story, or at least not the American story.

So I've compiled a bunch of really good artists, there are about 30 of them.

And we're going to do the American Narratives in Fine Art show.

It is happening at my studio.

I will be there.

And it's happening on the September 20th and 21st.

That's just a few weeks away, September 20th and 21st at Mercury Studios.

You can get your tickets there.

One of my favorite artists is Albin Viselka.

I just love his...

He's a guy who really has

taken art.

He's a master painter already.

But he got, he was captivated when he came up to the ranch with a bunch of others by some of the people that were teaching all of us how to tell a story.

And he took it on.

And

I bought, I think, your first storytelling piece of art, didn't I, Albin?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can you hear me?

Yeah, I got you.

Okay, sorry.

Yeah,

I think I bought your cowboy one, which I think was the first time that you started telling like a story, which I just love.

You know, yeah, that's the first thing I've done done outside of being commissioned for specific stories what a client was telling me.

And yeah, I really enjoy that process and that learning process.

So you picked, we had all of the artists go through the museum and you picked two stories.

Tell me what you picked and what inspired you.

Why did you pick them?

Okay.

First of all,

Bass Reeves.

I had never heard of Bass Reeves until we started doing research about what kind of stories we wanted to tell about America.

And he had such an amazing life, so many great stories,

just

his career.

He was the first African-American U.S.

Marshal.

And he brought in something like 2,000 or 3,000 convicts and had a very...

very strong Christian principle in his life.

In fact,

he would preach the gospel to his captive audience, if you will.

Well, he's bringing them into prison.

And one of those stories is told in these four paintings that I've done.

So I've done three of his life.

So hang on just a second.

Hang on just a second.

Wait, wait, wait.

So one of the things that you may not know, if you've never heard Bass Reeves, he is, the legend is that he is the inspiration for The Lone Ranger.

Whether that's true or not, we don't know.

Yeah, we're not sure if it's true or not, but his story is just as amazing as all the fictional stories of the Lone Ranger.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

so he had to arrest his own son at one point.

So a couple of your paintings are about that.

Can you tell that story?

Yeah, so first of all, he found out, one of my paintings is when he finds out that the son is

wanted.

And I tried to tell that story from the perspective of the emotion

on the face of the guy that's presenting him with that information and with the poster of his son.

And another painting is when he has his son in jail and he's actually

talking to him, extending the Bible to him, trying to help him to realize the error of his ways.

And it's a great, I mean, I don't want to take too much time telling each story, but I can really get carried away with them.

People can go on the website and read those full stories that I have connected to my paintings if you go to American Narratives and Fine Art.

This guy was so righteous and so good.

He had to arrest his son for murder.

His son, I believe, was hanged,

but he was

with him the whole time, wasn't he?

No, he wasn't hanged.

He actually served about 18 years, I believe, and was really

on good behavior.

So

anyway, it was, I did a lot of research in this, and I was, there's a lot of information back and forth about him, but he has so many amazing stories.

And

his life was just full of them.

So it was easy to find paintings to do of his life.

Yeah.

And then

you did Texas' son,

Stephen F.

Austin.

What inspired this?

So he was just the primary founder of Texas.

What inspired it was, again, just learning about the man.

His father was supposed to be the primary founder of Texas, primary settler to bring a bunch of people to Texas.

But en route, his father died when he was coming back home with the papers that authorized him to do so.

And he just

it was his father's dying wish that he took up that

mission and fulfilled it.

And he did in spectacular fashion.

And it's because of him that Texas is.

There's so much to tell, so little time.

But, man, I really think that in times like these, American history and the true American history,

we need to get these truths out there.

And Glenn, that's what you're all about.

And that's why I love that you're heading up this thing and giving us this opportunity to put our talents to use to help people to see the things that can save our country or are important to them, to help them live better lives.

And

we're talking to the right audience, and

we have you on our side, and your art's going to

be right there with everyone else.

It's just going to be an amazing show.

I'd encourage everybody to go.

Yeah.

So, Albin, thank you so much.

And your work is spectacular as always.

So thank you and we'll see you in a couple of weeks.

Thank you, Barnes.

You bet.

Also, one of the things that makes this different, first of all, there will be awards to the artists, but it's...

It'll be judged by you.

We're not going to have a bunch of art critics there.

We want to know what stories you really connected to.

what painting was the one that really connected you to that story.

The other thing that makes this art show different is all of the

artifacts that we have from the museum.

For instance,

it shows in Albin's painting, it shows Stephen F.

Austin coming riding a horse with parchment rolled up in his hand.

We have that parchment.

It was written in Stephen F.

Austin's own hand, and it was the conditions

of that Mexico gave to the Stephen F.

Austin in the United States that said you can open a colony here.

And what's amazing about this document is I wish we would settle on these terms now.

Mexico said to Austin, if you want a colony in Texas, which is you know property of Mexico now,

we are a Spanish-speaking country, so you have to have, for every 250 families, you have to build a Spanish-speaking church and a Spanish-speaking school.

You can't let anybody in who has a criminal record.

If we find out that somebody has committed a crime in the colony and you don't tell us first,

we'll close the whole thing down.

I mean, they were sticklers on all the things that countries should be sticklers on.

But you will see that actual document and then the painting with him on the horse holding the document.

So it's a museum and an art show and a story fest all weekend long.

You can get your tickets now at

Glenbeck.com or you can go to the website AmericanNarrativesInfineart.com.

American Narrativesinfineart.com.

And we will see you at the Mercury Studios in Dallas, Texas in a couple of weeks.

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