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We start with Tim Walls,

or as they like to call him in Minnesota, Tampon Tim.

unless you just think everybody's now a socialist.

Is this arrogance or do they know something we don't know?

We talk about that.

Also, Also,

the head of the FEC is on with us to talk about the money from Act Blue and what is happening with the fundraising for Kamala Harris.

What's legal, what's not, and

are they looking into

these

smurfs, if you will, at Act Blue?

There's something really dirty that appears to be happening with Democratic fundraising.

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That's the theme actually of our TV show tonight.

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Also, Nigel Farage joins me.

And in talking to Nigel Farage over in England, you know, they're on the verge of civil war.

We go into

Jamie Raskin, who is also saying that a civil war is coming and he knows what's going to cause it, Congress.

And then we talk to Nigel Farage, and there's an interesting pattern that arrives.

It seems like we are all being ruled by the same people.

So is our election about Democrats and Republicans, or is it about a global cabal against those who will stand against it?

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Well, joining me today is Pat Gray from Pac Gray.

I'm late.

Pat of listening to your show today and chewing the fat with Jeffy.

And you guys are on quite a roll with Tim Walls.

You like him about as much as I do.

Oh, man.

He's quickly risen to the top of my list of

people that I dislike with a very intense disliking.

Wait, what do you mean you don't like?

Now I didn't get that impression from you early on.

Oh, you didn't?

Yeah, I was a little subtle.

Maybe I was too subtle.

As I mentioned that I dislike him with all the intensity of a trillion white-hot burning suns.

Maybe that, maybe that's not enough.

I don't know.

Yeah, I'm not sure what you were saying with that.

Now, could it be, could it be

because he says things like this, cut 11, please, here's Tim Walls.

And I think seeing

a plan that's out there, talking about it with folks, knowing that he's not going to do anything, he talks about this wall.

I always say, let me know how high it is.

If it's 25 feet, then I'll invest in the 30-foot ladder factory.

That's not how you stop this.

Yeah, geez.

Is it because of stuff like that?

It's stuff like that.

Uh-huh.

And worse, actually.

Stuff like that.

What could be worse?

Here, here, cut 10.

I mean, could it be this?

And what we want to say is we're there to protect children.

We're there to have you understand that in Minnesota you're going to be protected.

And I just want to be clear.

I will never understand what goes into the thinking of these folks to bully these children.

It is not impacting them in one bit and making it a living hell for children, for families, for adults, for folks who are just trying to bring themselves in.

So in Minnesota, we're making it very clear we're not going to cooperate with these folks.

We're not going to extradite people.

We're going to say that this is a place where you can come to make these decisions.

The community, the trans community is as terrified as they've ever been.

We've seen attacks across the nation, even here in Minnesota.

And we're now saying we have to be much more proactive.

We have to be much more aggressive about making sure that folks are protected.

Yeah.

Folks are protected in getting their noodles cut off and that kind of thing.

Yes, that kind of thing.

Children are protected.

Children have a right to have their noodles cut off.

They do.

Or their breasts removed.

They do.

If they're six and they don't feel comfortable, cut off their noodles.

That's a really good.

Who am I?

Not nobody.

Yeah.

Who are you?

What kind of monster have you become?

You know, I mean, it's really, it's really, really bad.

Now,

he's also, you know, he was big on

COVID.

He was,

well, when I say he was big on that, I mean he had more nursing home deaths in his state than they had in New York under Cuomo.

Yeah.

So, but he was, it wasn't that he was a total dictator.

It was just that he was a total

authoritarian and locked everything down.

But he went the extra mile.

Here he is, cut 28 now.

Here he is on

a new way to be neighborly.

Hello, you have reached the Department of Public Safety stay-at-home hotline.

The information you leave is considered public information.

At the tone, please leave the following information.

Your name, your callback number, how the stay-at-home order is being violated, and where the stay-at-home order was violated.

Thank you.

Record your message at the tone.

When you are finished, hang up or press pound for more options.

And that's congratulations.

Yeah, that's where you snitch on your neighbor.

Yeah.

Hey, I just saw my neighbor pull out of their driveway.

They're going somewhere.

I think you need to send a SWAT team right now, please.

Because, yeah, they left their house.

They left their house.

That's just being neighborly.

That's all that is.

That's all that is.

It's just being a good neighbor.

Here's cut 29.

But we can get out there, reach out, make the case.

And for one thing,

don't ever shy away from our progressive values.

One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.

Amen.

Amen.

Amen.

Now,

they just don't understand how the left

wants freedom and the right is just trying to take rights away.

You know, like they're not taking rights away when they want to take your guns.

They're not taking rights away when

they

lock you in your house until you can't go anywhere.

They're not taking any rights away when they say you have to inject this into your body.

They're not taking any rights away at all.

In fact, it's just good neighborly stuff to be able to snitch on your neighbor.

That's so American, so folksy.

It is.

So folksy and not weird.

I'll tell you that.

Not weird at

all.

And when they tell you that you shouldn't be driving SUVs,

that doesn't limit your choices on what you can drive.

Not at all.

He's not taking away your right at all.

No.

He is just saying that there will be no gasoline cars in the state of Minnesota by 2035.

That's all he's saying.

Is that a bad thing?

In 10 years, nobody's driving gasoline cars because

he's also not taking your right away.

He's not.

He's definitely not when he says we're going to shut down the oil industry.

No, he's giving you all kinds of choices.

You could have solar panels or you could have, you know,

wind-powered electricity.

There's two choices right there.

What do you want?

Two.

How many choices do you need?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Right.

Man.

Right.

It's just so crazy what people are saying about him.

Now, so he's, you know, I'd like to call him the name that people call him in the state occasionally, and that's Tampon Tim,

which I think is very dignified and shows what he's for, and that is tampons in boys' restrooms.

You know, he, you know, who are you to say you shouldn't have,

you should, you should use the restroom, you know, designated for the sex you were born with.

That is so bigoted.

So weird.

So weird.

This is folksy.

You know, you have your boy go in and shove a tampon up where he's bleeding.

That's normal.

Yeah.

Hello.

If that's not middle America, I don't know what is.

I don't.

No.

No.

It's, you know, and as he said, one man's socialism is another, is another man's neighborliness.

And, you know, when I think of a good neighbor, I think of Stalin.

I think of Mao.

Yeah.

I think of, I think of the good neighbors that were turning Jews in, you know, in Germany.

I think of those neighbors.

They were a neighbor.

Neighborly.

National

socialist party in Germany.

So it is.

It is.

Some people would say that's socialism, you know, where

you rat on a neighbor.

Hey, there's a Jew living next door.

And other people just think that that's just

neighborly, you know?

It's not socialism.

It's just neighborly.

And I love that.

Now, he's also a man of truth.

If you look at cut 12 here,

he was telling you the truth the whole time.

He was way ahead of the curve.

Listen.

I've spent a lot of time with the president, and he's great.

We're talking, we're chatting, and all this.

And I think, you know, we all get a little older.

That's what happens.

But you also gain that insight.

And I think when it comes to these issues, working across the aisle to get things done, you see the president just doing this with dignity, doing it with class, getting up every day, doing the work.

So I think he's just doing what he does.

And I think it's a kind of incumbent upon all of us.

Look, my mom's 88, still living on the farm, drives herself.

Is she the president, though?

Folks are able to do this.

So I think this little bit of ageism that goes to this, if it's not that, would be something else.

They attack all of us on something.

That's right.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

How folksy of him.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

He's not lying there.

He's just being folksy.

He's just telling a story.

And

it turns out that he was absolutely right.

He's totally just like his mom able to drive his car.

You know, Tim.

I want you when you get to Washington, you're not going to need a car because, you know, you'll have Secret Service driving you everywhere.

Why don't you just hand the keys over to joe of your car and tell him just to you know hey joe why don't you just take it you know just park it in the garage around the corner you'll you're gonna be fine because i i don't think you know his mom could drive a car surely oh yeah she's 88 that's older than joe she's 88 yeah now she's not running the country but yeah but i'm sure she has just as important a position and uh it doesn't it doesn't mess her up at at all getting old.

I will tell you that there is a couple of other things that I think are really, really, really good.

Minnesota, there's room in the inn.

In fact,

let me just play Tampon Tim here on Sanctuary Cities, cut 13, please.

Would you have done the schools any differently?

Because I think that's where a lot of parents are upset about what happened with the schools.

Do you think you could have made any other choice?

Well, I think, just to be clear, over 80% of our students missed less than 10 days of in-class learning.

The vast majority of students were in.

It depended, again, on population density.

Many of these decisions were being made by local folks to be able to do what was necessary to keep them there.

I think, again, in hindsight,

if we could have known that we would get vaccinations out as quickly as possible, we prioritized teachers and the staff in schools to get there.

We're doing it differently now.

And since May of 2021, almost every one of our students has been in the entire time and been doing that.

So I think with hindsight, it's 2020, perhaps we could have tailored a little bit closer to that.

But the fact of the matter is making the case that we shouldn't have done anything is simply wrong.

Yeah, simply wrong.

By the way, that was about him shutting down

all of the schools, which apparently never happened, Pat.

Never, never, never, never happened.

Let's go to cut 13, please.

Should Minnesota be a sanctuary state?

If the definition of that is that the federal government enforces immigration law and local law enforcement enforces local law, then yes.

Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities?

Yes.

Local control.

Yes.

Local control.

Wow.

Local control.

I mean, he's not for local control on anything else, but when it comes to sanctuary cities,

you know, there's, as he said,

there is room in the inn, you know, for more Somalis and

everything else.

And he has taken, I'm going to give you just a little track record

when we come back here on Tim, because he has taken the state of Minnesota and just, wow, I mean, it has just taken off.

It's an entirely new state.

It's a rocket ride to the moon with Tim Walls.

You know,

I think, Pat, now you could disagree with me, but I think you put a team together like

Kamala Harris from California and bring in those California things right to America.

And then

Tampon Tim's Minnesota, what he's done to that state.

Yeah.

My gosh.

I mean, America is fixed.

Imagine that on a nationwide scale.

My dog is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My dog is fixed as well, but it's going to be

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So Nigel Farage, he was a commodities trader for years.

He then started, became a founding member of UKIP in 1993.

And he was saying, we got to get out of the EU.

Nobody thought it could happen.

June 2016, he was the leading figure in the campaign to leave.

He was called Mr.

Brexit by Donald Trump.

The Brexit Party stormed a victory in six weeks, and then Prime Minister Theresa May had to step down.

And then he kind of just fell back, and he was off the front lines.

He started doing some television in 2023.

How does a conservative do this?

In 2023, he won News Presenter of the Year at the annual Television and Radio Awards Ceremony for his show on GB News, which is tremendous, but boy, the establishment doesn't like it.

He's been debanked by Nat West.

He fought against it.

They fired two CEOs, and the government has promised to change things.

Then this July 4th, on our Independence Day, he won a seat in the House of Commons as a member of parliament.

The result was the biggest ever election swing in modern times.

He now leads the Reform UK Party, and he joins us now at a dark hour for

For England.

Good friend Nigel Farage.

Welcome to the program, sir.

How are you?

Glenn, hello.

Well, yeah, I'm in depressed, to be honest with you.

What has happened to my beautiful,

very reserved, very quiet, very polite, very Christian, very nice country where everybody knew the Christian names of their neighbors, where we helped each other, we worked together, we disagreed in elections and we voted for different parties, and we accepted the results, and we lived our lives.

And now we find ourselves, and as I speak to you, there are thought to be 39

protests going to happen across the United Kingdom tonight alone.

And many of those will turn violent, and police will be attacked, and cars and buses will be set fire to.

We are in the most terrible trouble.

This isn't, I mean, stuff like this hasn't happened.

You know, we know in America, Vivra Vendetta,

and, you know,

that's kind of based on, you know, what happened in England.

I don't even know in the 1600s.

They've brought now the new prime minister has brought the

standing army back, which was, you know, what happened under Cromwell.

It's truly terrifying to watch it from this side of the ocean.

I can't imagine what it's like for

the average person.

Can you tell me what is really happening?

Because from over here, it seems as though you're having the same sort of two-tier justice system that we have here, except I think it's worse there.

You're in full-fledged denial, the government and the media,

that these things are happening that are very, very bad and that you are losing your country

to radicals and

I mean look Glenn there is no excuse there is no excuse for people going out committing acts of violence on either side of the divide correct we you know we do have we do have some far-right sort of soccer supporter yobs uh who live out who live outside the law and and mostly have very large pupils something to do with what they consume i think um so we do have some lawless people On the other side, we have some extreme radical Islamists who have now taken control of parts of our small towns and cities, particularly in the north of England, who now wish to implement Sharia law, who are deeply intolerant of anyone that doesn't bow

to the way they want to live.

They are the two extremes.

of what is going on here.

And the problem is threefold.

Number one, that the police, police, if you're white and British, they will police you in a very harsh manner.

And I'm not saying that's wrong, by the way.

You know, I do think lawlessness needs to be dealt with.

But my goodness me, my goodness me.

We saw the other night in Birmingham, our our Midlands capital, we saw the other night hundreds, and I mean hundreds, of young masked Muslim men, some carrying knives, some carrying swords, and they went outside a public house that sold alcohol, which of course these people believe should be completely banned, along with women having rights and homosexuals being allowed to exist and all those things.

And we saw a white man coming out of the pub, being beaten to a pulp, his liver being literally lacerated by these people.

We saw windows being broken.

And I've actually got the response here from the head of police from Birmingham who when he was asked why did you not police this mob the way you would a bunch of white British people he said we had the opportunity to meet with community leaders prior to the event to understand the kind of policing we needed to deliver so he went to this group and said what policing do we need they said oh nothing at all governor it'll all be fine this is what we call two-tier policing, where we dare not, we dare not do stop and search for knives in areas where there's a black community, even though 80% of the murder victims are black for fear of being called racist.

We dare not intervene in Muslim areas for fear of

being called Islamophobic.

And yet, if you're a white group going out to protest, you know, we really crack the whip.

So two-tier policing has led to deep resentment within the British community.

So, Nigel, you and I are on exactly the same page, and I fear for my country because the left has been poking and want violent reactions from the right.

And if one person goes out and gives them any excuse, they will crack down.

If violence...

Martin Luther King and Gandhi were right, and any violence in your country or our country started by people who believe in our country and our rule of law,

they're just going to get hammered and they will lose our countries for that.

However,

how do you separate those people

who,

you know, like they said on BLM, and I don't know if this is the case over in Great Britain, but are there and they are protesting and they are upset about what's happening to their country.

They see it.

The media is in complete denial of any of this stuff.

How do you,

what is the goal or what is the approach to talk to the regular person that doesn't want to riot, that doesn't want to be violent, but wants somebody to do something where it's equal justice under the law?

Well, a couple of quick points there.

Within 24 hours of the murder of George Floyd in the Midwest of America, within 24 hours we had a mob in central London who defaced the statue of Winston Churchill defiled defiled the cenotaph which marks the deaths of one and a half million British boys in two world wars and do you know what our police did

They knelt down in the street and took the knee.

They took the knee.

They took the knee.

They made a political gesture towards an organization because it had the word black in it.

I at the time said, because of all the years I've spent, all the time I've spent over the last 40 years in America, I know who these people are.

They're Marxist, they're bad, they wish to destroy the family, community, the country, Western capitalism, freedom, liberty.

And for my pains, I got sacked.

as a host of the biggest talk radio show in the country.

So this is where it started.

The BLM thing here is where we saw the very beginnings of two-tier policing.

Now, interestingly, you mentioned to me a moment ago, Glenn, Martin Luther King, right?

Let us remember, let us all remember what he said in that famous speech, which we know as the I Have a Dream speech, because this needs to be our guiding principle on both sides of the pond going on if we're to avert violence on a massive scale.

And I'm not, I promise you, I'm not over-exaggerating this and the importance of this.

Martin Luther King in that speech said, I have a dream that one day my four children will be judged not

by the color of their skin.

I repeat, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

character.

That is what the American civil rights movement in the 60s was all about.

It was about equity.

it was about equality, it was about fairness.

And the march of the Marxist lefts through our institutions, through our public offices, through our education systems, through our universities, through much of our media, much of our political class is now all about dividing us.

You are either gay or straight or bisexual or pansexual or black or brown or Asian or white or whatever.

We're being divided up into different groups.

And the object of all of this is not to bring us together and make society fairer.

It's to turn us against each other in order that a global revolution and a new Marxist regime may come.

We need to reaffirm the founding principles of America, the things that we learned here from Magna Carta onwards, the things that the Bible teaches us, that all men should be treated equal regardless of their color, sexual choice, or creed.

And if we can get that to be re-understood again, we might just be able to begin to mend the divisions in our society.

And if I say those things to you with huge passion, it's because I really am deeply fearful.

not just for my country, my communities, what is going to happen tonight in just two or three hours' time, but the entirety of Western civilization.

I promise you, this really matters.

I tell you, you'd never attend any

street rally at night.

There is no reason to do it at night.

Nothing good happens at night.

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Sean Cooksey is the Federal Election Commission chairperson.

I really appreciate you coming on,

Chairman, and helping us figure out exactly what is going on.

We want to start with the situation.

How do you transfer money from one person to another

legally?

Can you do that?

Well, thanks for having me on, Glenn.

And you're right what you said at the top, which is that it's a completely unprecedented situation.

I mean, we haven't had anything like this happen for at least 50 years, to have a presidential nominee drop out just a few weeks before the convention, before he's been formally nominated, and hand over his entire campaign operation, including millions of dollars cash on hand, to a different candidate, to his vice presidential nominee, although she hasn't been formally nominated yet.

It's really no surprise that this raises a lot of legal questions.

It's, again, a completely novel situation.

Some experts have tried to argue that this is permissible, but a lot of electional experts have raised a lot of big questions about this.

Some have said it is unlawful, that you can't just switch the name on a committee and give it over to another person without that being an illegal transfer.

It's something that is going to have to go through an FEC process and maybe a court process too to get to the bottom of it.

So I know that for my charity, let's say, if I raise money and it is designated for, let's say, hurricanes, I can only use that money to help people recover from hurricane.

I cannot transfer it to another,

and even if it's a bigger emergency, legally, I can't move that money to any other place.

It's the same kind of thing with this, isn't it?

I mean, it's a big question what these donors were told and what they thought they were given to, to your point.

All of these people were giving money, they thought, to re-elect Joe Biden as president.

And now they're being told, no, actually, this money is going to a completely different candidate that you may or may not really approve of.

One of the big questions that happens under FEC guidance is whether donors in that kind of situation are entitled to a refund or to have the campaign be required to ask their permission to redesignate it.

I think one of the big problems, though, is really just the lack of time on the clock.

We're in a situation where the election is less than 13 weeks away at this point and the wheels of government move so slow.

I'm concerned that really none of this is going to get resolved before Election Day.

And it won't really matter after Election Day, will it?

I mean, I think for all intents and purposes, right.

Any fine or any unwinding that happens after the fact is really not going to do anything to change the vote count on Election Day.

So the money she got from the Biden-Harris campaign,

they transfer it over.

But is that really

not that important compared to what she's raising now?

I mean, she's raising money hand over fist, like I've never seen before.

No, I think that's a fair point about maybe why

at the end of the day, this won't matter much.

I mean, reportedly, both the Harris Committee and the Trump Committee, right, are raising hundreds of millions of dollars every month.

They have to report that to the FEC.

every

month on the 20th.

So, for example, in a little bit less than two weeks here, we'll get the hard numbers on what they raised in July.

Harris Committee, I believe, reported over $300 million raised.

So it may be the case that whatever cash was left over from the Biden committee doesn't make a big difference at the end of the day.

We're talking to the Federal Election Commission chairperson.

He's the guy who is, you know, at the SEC that is, or the FEC, that is making sure that all the money is on the up and up and everything is played by the rules.

His name is Sean Cooksey.

And

Sean,

to be fair to them,

you could make the case that when I gave money to Biden-Harris,

a lot of people would say I was just giving it because I didn't want Donald Trump.

And Harris was part of that team.

And if Joe Biden would have died, wouldn't the money have gone to her anyway?

Well, I think the big problem with that possibility is the fact that this happened before the convention.

And so one of the big sort of open questions is what happens when she's on the paperwork.

It's called, you know, they call her the vice presidential nominee, but she really hasn't gone through the roll call vote.

She hasn't been nominated by the convention yet.

In that case, you know, it would also have been possible for Joe Biden to switch vice presidential nominees and things would be very different.

And so I think, again, it's going to have to go through some kind of court process ultimately at the end of the day to get that settled.

And I don't think that's going to happen before the election, unfortunately.

So I don't know if this is your purview or you can comment on this, but this is the first time that I have seen in American history where

the democratic process

didn't really happen.

I mean, it happened.

People went to vote, but they didn't vote for her to be president.

And it was...

you know, really funky.

I think a lot of people on the Democratic side wanted a different candidate, but the DNC shut it down.

And then at the last minute, they say this was a grassroots movement, but it appeared to be, to me at least, a coup.

You know, he's not going to leave.

He's not going to leave.

He's not going to leave.

They give him a deadline of Sunday.

A deadline for what?

He's already made his decision.

And then Sunday, at the very last minute, he changes his mind.

And then Barack Obama comes out and says, we're just going to see how this Democratic

process works.

And there were no votes.

It was just going to

the electors and the superdelegates.

And

that's just the party.

I mean,

is this totally funky?

Is this legal?

I think you're right that it is absolutely not a grassroots

nomination process.

I think it's really the exact opposite of that, which is party leaders, party elders

coming together to decide, you know, amongst a couple dozen of them who they want as their nominee.

And in fact, it's really sort of a throwback to the way parties used to nominate presidential candidates, right?

Sort of in the proverbial smoke-filled rooms where they would say, you know, primaries be damned.

We don't really care what the voters think.

We're going to just make a selection as the bosses of who's going to be up for president.

And I think that's really kind of a good summation of what happened here.

And is that still legal to do that?

I mean, the party's going to make their own rules, right?

Right.

At the end of the day, the parties make their own rules.

They chose

several decades ago to really go to primary voting processes, but they don't have to do that.

Ultimately, the party decides how they want to select their nominees.

Okay, so tonight,

we have been following this Act Blue and all of these organizations that are raising money for the Democrats.

And to me, and I'm not asking you to comment on this, nor am I putting words in your mouth.

This is me saying this.

I've done enough research on the Tides Foundation to know how this shell game works.

And they're raising all kinds of dark money through things like Act Blue.

And they're setting up all these different organizations.

And I guess you can do that.

That's fine.

But the one thing that is happening now is

there are reports that they're doing something called smurfing that's been called smurfing.

And that is if somebody makes a donation of, let's say, $100,

all of a sudden it'll show up on the books that they made an $18,000 donation and they did it in ways that aren't even humanly possible.

And we looked into this tonight.

I mean, when we show you this, America, I think

you're going to be flabbergasted.

James O'Keefe did a recent report where he highlighted donations to a Cindy No,

N-O-W-E, of Maryland.

She claimed to have not made the majority of the donations.

If you go to the FEC data page on Cindy No of Maryland,

the donations through Act Blue do seem suspicious.

We're not saying that

it's illegal.

We don't know yet.

Coincidentally, through an accident, as we were double-checking the work, one of our researchers typed in Cindy Rowe, R-O-W-E, of Massachusetts, and you find the same exact donation pattern on a Cindy Rowe instead of a Cindy No.

So yes, James O'Keefe was right about Cindy No, but the same pattern is there with Cindy Rowe.

What makes it even more suspicious is that the names are nearly identical, only one difference.

Are you guys looking into these

irregularities here or these strange instances?

Well, you know, as you said, as a matter of law and FEC policy, I can't comment on any investigation the FEC may or may not be doing, but what I can say at a general level is that the FEC takes misreporting and straw donor schemes, which is, I think, another name for what you called smurfing.

We take those things extremely seriously.

Those are some of the most serious serious violations that we have at the SEC, where you are misreporting your identity on campaign finance reports, where you are giving someone else money in order to make a political contribution for you.

Those are very serious violations.

Many people have gone to prison for those kinds of things.

And I know that this is an issue that reporters have been focused on.

I know it's one that other government agencies are looking into.

The Virginia Attorney General, I know, and the Committee on House Administration and Congress are looking into this.

I think it's worth watching their work on that issue and any results that come out of their investigations.

And is that because the FEC is - I mean, you may or may not be investigating it, but you're so slow.

Will it matter if the FEC picks it up?

Well, ultimately, we do move as fast as our resources allow on any enforcement matter, and there are also opportunities for private parties to get involved if we move too slow under the statute, whether something can come up.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Wait, what does that mean?

Private parties can get involved.

What does that mean?

Well, under the statute for the FEC, when you file a complaint with the FEC, any private person can file a complaint with the FEC alleging a violation of campaign finance law.

And under the statute, if the FEC doesn't act on that complaint, doesn't give an up or down vote on whether this is something we're going to look into or not, within 120 days, the person who filed the complaint can then sue, saying that we are too slow, we are not acting on their complaint fast enough, and then ultimately, if it's shown that we're not acting on that complaint fast enough, that person then can file a private lawsuit to enforce the law themselves.

Wow.

Wow.

And like the Virginia Attorney General,

I'm not sure if you can answer this or if you even know the answer, But the Attorney Generals, they can only look at

the potential fraud that's happening in their state.

So Cindy Rowe in Massachusetts would have to be the Massachusetts Attorney General?

I don't know the specific limits on their authority.

Certainly, attorney generals have really wide-ranging subpoena authority and investigatory authority to launch their own inquiries into these things, to start demanding documents and witnesses and interviews.

Whether that could be limited to just their own states, it might depend on the state.

It might depend on where Act Blue is operating and where their servers are and things like that, sort of as a jurisdictional question.

So I think the one thing that you do know, though, is that Congress has jurisdiction throughout the entire country, and they wouldn't be limited in that kind of way.

One last question, and we've got to run because I have a network break.

But

they'll say that this is just all politics.

This is just a smear campaign.

I don't want to be involved in any of that.

I want to look for real things.

Is there enough smoke here to believe that this is worth questioning?

No outcome, but it is a legitimate line of inquiry.

I mean, I think the actions sort of speak for themselves here when you have multiple...

agencies, members of Congress, attorneys general who have been alerted and are interested enough to operationalize their offices to sort of get the machinery moving to get the facts.

I think that really

speaks for itself.

This is the Federal Election Commission, the FEC Chairman, Sean Cooksey.

Sean, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you so much, Glenn.

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