Supreme Court's Trump Decision Officially BROKE the Left | Guest: Jonathan Turley | 7/2/24

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Glenn and Stu react to the Democrats and President Biden’s fearmongering over the SCOTUS presidential immunity decision. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss how the Left’s overreach and weaponization of the criminal justice system led to the SCOTUS decision they despise. Attorney Jonathan Turley joins to discuss the Left’s attempted systemic takedown of free speech. Jonathan also explains how Biden is the most anti-free-speech president since John Adams. Glenn and Jonathan Turley also discuss the recent SCOTUS decision and the Left’s overreaction to it. Glenn tells the story of Woodrow Wilson and how his wife, Edith, essentially took over the presidency. Is that currently happening with Biden and Jill? Glenn and Stu discuss the weird RFK Jr. controversy after a photo leaked of him about to eat a barbecued dog.
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Well, I just don't know what to say.

I watched the president's speech last night and everybody coming out and saying, he could go after us.

He could just shut us down.

Now that the Supreme Court has ruled, Donald Trump, if he is elected, he'll come in and he'll start putting people in jail.

I want you to remember that here for just a second.

We'll get back to it.

Here's what the president had to say last night at a press conference.

Scott 9.

The presidency is the most powerful office in the world.

It's an office that not only tests your judgment, perhaps even more importantly, it's an office that can test your character.

Yes.

Because you not only face moments where you need the courage to exercise the full power of the presidency,

you also face moments where you need the wisdom to respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.

Yes.

Stop there for a second.

So, Stu, like, what would some of those limits be?

Like, you know, because it's an awesome responsibility to be president of the United States, but you can't just do anything, right?

Like, what would some of the limits be?

You couldn't just go out and kill people, right?

I don't know.

That's not what I've been hearing, Glenn, over the past 24 hours.

My understanding is the Supreme Court gave a like James Bond license to kill to the president of the United States.

No.

No, I don't think that's true.

We'll continue to listen.

Yeah,

I didn't hear the whole speech, so we'll go on.

I was thinking like something smaller, like

maybe you say, hey, you've got student loans.

I can't help you with those.

That would be the constitutional thing.

But the president couldn't just say, I'm going to just, you know, forgive all student loans, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean,

you're thinking of the old-timey America.

There was a version of America where the

you know, the head of the executive branch couldn't just spend $500 billion on a whim without Congress.

But those days are long gone, Glenn.

Okay, but it would go to the Supreme Court.

It was wrong.

It would go to the Supreme Court, and then they would tell the president to stop it.

And then shoot it down.

Well, no, he would just do it again.

Oh,

it went to the Supreme Court already.

Yeah, and they shot it down.

They went to the Supreme Court.

That's weird.

Yeah, so they

just did it again,

but in a slightly different way, like 1% different, and then sends it up through the courts again.

And again, it's going to get rejected again.

But then he'll just do it again.

Right.

Oh, that's weird.

It's an awesome power, and

it shows character, you know, when you restrain yourself from doing those things that you can't do.

Anyway, I digress.

Back to the president.

Respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.

Limits.

This nation was founded on the principle of the world.

There were no kings in America.

Right.

Each of us is equal before the law.

No one.

No one is above the law.

Hey, stop for a second.

Stop.

Stop for just a second here.

Stu, are we all equal under the law right now?

I mean, is that true?

Doesn't seem

true.

If you were held in contempt of Congress, right, you'd go to jail, right?

Yeah.

Like Steve Steve Bannon just went to jail yesterday.

Sure.

Another Trump advisor who said, no, I can't share that.

That's executive privilege.

They sent him to jail.

Navarro, yeah.

But yeah, but it's, but it's all, it's all equal, right?

I mean, let's say somebody was, yeah, not releasing

tapes of testimony.

And they say, well, that was executive privilege and they're in contempt of Congress, they go to jail as well, right?

No.

I mean, I don't know what you're talking about specifically, but what you just described does not sound at all like something that you would go to jail for.

Let's say that you were the head of the DOJ,

and Congress said you have to produce this information, and then you didn't, you would be totally off Congress.

Oh, no.

No, that you don't go to jail.

No, no, that doesn't seem like a jailable offense at all.

It's like, I can see where you're getting confused here.

Like,

for example, if you were to

riot at a federal building, right?

Right.

That's something you'd go to jail.

Jail for.

It's wrong.

You don't do those things unless it's the darkest day.

And then there's another separate scenario where, let's say you were to riot at a federal building.

You don't go to jail for that.

But wait, there was just a federal building.

If you riot at a federal building, you're going to jail.

But if you're just simply rioting at a federal building, then

you don't go to jail.

So is it kind of like, because it's a very subtle difference.

It's kind of like when you're praying in front of abortion clinic,

you go to jail.

You don't have to jail.

But if you burn down an abortion clinic, you don't go to jail.

Depends on, are they not, are you burning it down because they're not doing enough abortions?

If you burn it down because they're not frequently aborting enough kids, then yes, you do not go to jail.

But if you burn it down because you think they're doing too many abortions, then obviously you go to jail.

Okay, so if you burned down an abortion clinic, you would go to jail if you disagreed with them.

But if you burn down the people's

business where they were pro-life,

you also go to jail.

They're pro-life, the owners of the business?

Yeah, no, you would not go to jail for that.

Why would you go to jail for that?

Well, okay.

I just want to make sure that I understand equal justice under the law, right?

We're all judged exactly the same.

Now I think we have it.

All right, go ahead with President Biden.

Not even the President of the United States.

Not even.

Today's Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity that fundamentally changed.

For all, for all practical purposes, today's decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no limits on what a president can do.

It's a fundamentally new principle.

It's a dangerous precedent.

Dangerous.

Because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the Supreme Court of the United States.

Wow.

Stop just a second.

That is news, isn't it?

I mean, especially to the Supreme Court.

That is news that no matter what the president does, even if it breaks the law,

you're not going to have to pay a price for it.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

See, what the left is afraid of right now is what they're saying is

he's going to silence speech.

Donald Trump will silence any dissent.

And that's not happening now.

Or he would put his

he'd put his

former allies, I mean, his former foes in jail.

You know, for instance, let's say you're running against a guy who Donald Trump didn't think he could beat, then he would just make up some charges and then get the guy arrested and then keep him

in the court system system until you finally got him into jail that's what Trump could do Trump could do that because of yesterday's rulings

so that's pretty pretty pretty pretty frightening you know

I think if we're really gonna go all the way what should be terrifying is that Donald Trump could just round up a whole group of people because he didn't like them you know what I mean just round them up and then put them like in a concentration camp

kind of like FDR did with the Japanese.

And that wouldn't be illegal.

You know, he'd get out of office and he'd never pay the price that FDR had to pay.

Which was named our best president.

Well, yeah, that's over and over again by story.

Yeah.

Yeah, the guys who'd violate these are always the progressives.

Always.

The deep, deep progressives are the ones who violate all these things.

Now, when it comes to just killing people or doing something illegal, the Supreme Court case laid out it must be constitutional.

So

if the president acts in an unconstitutional way,

then

you can get him.

But unless it's...

Unless it's unconstitutional, he can't do it.

So it would be unconstitutional to round up the people that disagreed with you.

It would be unconstitutional to silence those who oppose you.

It would be unconstitutional to go after your opposing political foe and try to put them in jail.

All things that Joe Biden is currently doing.

Yeah, I mean, it's funny.

This ruling is coming from Roberts, who's an institutionalist, right?

Like, if anything, we've complained about him a million times because he's so unwilling to shake up things

just because,

you know, it happens to be the constitutional way.

I mean, Obamacare is a great example of that.

Like, it's going to shake things up.

And I don't want to give the impression that we're, you know, too impactful on society.

He's always doing these things.

And that's, in a way, what this ruling is.

What he's saying is, hey, we shouldn't have, I mean, in a way, it's designed specifically to protect Joe Biden because everybody knows if there's no immunity, what do do you think Donald Trump's going to do when he's president of the United States after what he's just been through?

He's going to go in there and find every little thing that he can and go after Joe Biden on it.

He promised to do it with Hillary.

He didn't do it.

He now says he regrets not doing it.

And now they've done it to him.

So you think he's just going to sit back and be like, you know, let me show you what I'm going to do as president.

It's a shoulder shrug.

I don't think that's the way that's going to go down.

Okay, so in a way, Roberts is protecting both sides from this back and forth that could easily come.

However, what the president has done is not constitutional, and he should go to jail, not for the things that he's done in office.

I disagree with all of his policies, the whole thing of, you know,

of, you know, taking away your student loans and things like that.

You know, that's unconstitutional, but I don't think that's something that you go after.

However, the business dealings with China, yeah, I think

that should be prosecuted.

At least as far as that didn't happen he was president.

As far as we know, none of that happened while he was president.

So that wouldn't be covered by this at all.

But what I think Roberts is doing here is just setting a high bar.

Of course.

Yes, you can go after a president for the worst things in the world.

However, there's a high bar for you to clear.

So don't bother bringing up your BS nonsense every 10 seconds because it's not going to work.

That is a, that's a.

Beyond the fact that we all knew what he said was true, official acts would be, you'd be have immunity for.

Like you're not able under the law, Glenn,

to kill people, right?

Like you don't just, you can't just, we, like, you couldn't send a drone to go start murdering people in other countries.

The president, with his powers as commander-in-chief, has

powers that we don't have, right?

Like we all know that.

There is some sort of implied immunity for official acts.

So we all knew that.

We all knew unofficial acts would not be covered here.

There's nothing new in this ruling.

It was blatantly obvious.

Yet they have to do this charade every single time.

Oh, gosh, SEAL Team 6 might come and just start being utilized to kill people.

How many different layers of checks and balances would have to, including SEAL Team 6 just going along with this, which they would not be covered to do?

They would all get prosecuted.

They'd all be put in prison.

But like we're supposed to believe that oh Donald Trump would be completely fine for doing this.

It's insanity.

All right.

Well, just let me just end with this.

As the president is saying this, two things happened yesterday.

Christian pro-life father of 11 is now facing over a decade in prison.

He's going to be sentenced today

for a peaceful protest in Tennessee.

It was a violation of the FACE Act.

You know, they were praying in the hallway.

What he said yesterday is this, quote, it's real easy for me.

I can go and go to battle and go to jail as an individual, and it's not a big loss.

The challenge comes when you're leading your family through it, when you're talking to your three-year-old and your 23-year-old and your other family.

Vaughn said that he wanted to pray to God, quote, every day and get up ready to take on the day with whatever circumstances come my way, with a humility and a grace and a spirit-led life that represents

all of us in our society and represents him and our community around us.

How many politicians order their life after truth and justice versus power, greed, negotiation, and negotiating principles?

So here's a guy who said,

I believe what I believe.

God will be with me.

I'm going to go to jail.

At the same time, Bannon also went to jail

for a contempt of Congress.

There are now 15, I believe 15 people in the Biden administration that have been deemed in contempt of Congress.

None of them are being prosecuted, But Donald Trump's people are.

Bannon said this, and I don't like Bannon.

I don't agree with Bannon on everything.

I think he's

a thought leader that I really strongly disagree with many times.

But he should not be going to jail.

He said, I am proud to go to prison.

If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny,

if this what it takes to stand up to the corrupt criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this what it takes to stand up to Joe Biden, then I am proud to do it.

You have people crying that they might go to prison while they're putting

people in prison for the things that they have done themselves.

Please, Mr.

President, don't talk to me about out-of-control tyranny from the Supreme Court.

They've done exactly the opposite.

They have protected the presidency while they are dismantling the administrative state.

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You should read it.

The Federalist did a story.

The death of the administration or the administrative state is just the beginning.

While the president and everybody else is saying, they're just there to making it so easy to be a dictator, the Supreme Court is doing the exact opposite.

With chevron deference, they have made it almost impossible for you to be a dictator because

the government has to answer to the people and the elected officials are the ones that make the laws not the administrative state

that is fantastic and they're in this article they talk about how uh justice i think it was thomas um

uh laid out a really cogent uh case for dismantling a lot of it and they think that that's the direction the supreme court is going which would make it less powerful for a dictator just wanted to

throw that in there.

Throw this quick scenario by you.

And by the way, Pat Gray or Pat Gray Unleashed is joining us.

But Glenn, quick scenario.

Let's say you had a real fear that the next president of the United States might be Adolf Hitler.

Would you spend a lot of time criticizing the weakening of the executive branch with their agency power?

No.

No, right?

I would say any fence you could put around the administrative arm would be a good thing.

Right.

And yet they're doing legitimately both of those things.

They're like, oh, the Supreme Court is giving, is taking away power from the executive and these agencies and these experts.

And by the way,

we're terrified Hitler's going to come in and put all of his people in these agencies.

Right.

So they would have an unquestioned amount of power.

That's insane.

Right.

Wouldn't you want them to be weakened?

This works for everyone.

No matter who you're afraid of being president, you should want these agencies weakened.

If they hadn't beaten down our logic over the last 20 years, this stuff 20, 30 years ago all would have been laughed at.

It's just ridiculous.

By the way, Jonathan Turley is joining us here in about a half an hour.

And

would it be weird for me to say, I just want to be his friend?

Would that be weird?

It's going to be weird now.

Yeah.

Just me out, you know, once in a while.

Did I make it weird?

Okay.

I mean, I really

want to be pathetic.

I'm not a friend phone calls.

You know what I mean?

Well, it is pathetic.

I mean, look at me.

You know, but I just want to be in, you know, in his circle of friends.

He's like, hey, I'm kicking around an idea.

What do you think of this?

And I, you know, I don't, I'm, I don't have to give him any advice or anything.

I'd just be like, ah, that's a good idea.

That's a good idea.

Why would you say that's a good idea, Jonathan?

Wait, are you saying that you're going to be his friend to steal his ideas to look smart on the air?

Is that what you're trying to do with this?

Well, no, a lesser man would do that.

You just want to be his friend.

I just want to be his friend.

I just want to be his friend.

I just want to be his friend.

Anyway, there's a couple of stories.

He's got a new book out on the death of freedom of speech and why it's an indispensable right.

We'll talk to him about that.

But also, he wrote an article this week, Supreme Court just downgraded the insurrection to trespassing,

which

is so good.

May I ask,

do either of you, have you ever heard of parading before

January 6th?

Never.

Never as a crime.

No.

Not milling or parading.

Or

known crime.

Milling.

You know, you're milling around.

You know, I've at least heard that.

I've never heard

of just out there parading.

I've milled at a mall, I don't know how many times.

When I was younger, and I was never arrested for it.

Correct.

And parading, doesn't parading sound like something like,

well, we got to get him on something.

Right.

That's exactly what it sounds like.

Yeah.

I mean, right?

It's just parading doesn't even sound like it should be illegal.

But it was a brilliant decision.

He had a parade.

He was throwing candy out to the kids and marching down the street with a flag.

Yeah.

That can't be done.

It's a brilliant decision, though, because even if you did go into the Capitol building, nobody made it to the Senate chamber or the house floor.

Nobody got there, right?

Well, no, no, no, no.

They got there eventually, right?

Where were they?

Nothing.

Into the house,

but to the house.

Not while they were there.

Right.

So

you have no idea what they were doing there.

They could have just been there to see the statue.

Well, they were there.

Could have.

They were there.

Could have.

That might have.

I don't think so.

By the way,

they weren't necessarily stopping

an event.

Right?

They're not necessarily trying to stop the event.

It seems like

if they were, they should have just pulled the fire alarm because that's not illegal.

That's definitely not illegal in the Jamal Bowman clause of the Constitution.

But it feels like

if you really wanted to slap some wrists of Graham.

Look, we all know there's a separation here between people who committed violence against police officers and people who just walked in a building.

And you can get this.

I don't even make that distinction anymore because I'm so tired of it.

Really?

Yeah, you're just tired of it.

You really are.

It was no big deal.

It was fine.

It was fine.

Probably not the right approach.

It was.

Everything was fine.

Yeah, it was fine.

But, like, you know, if you want to slap a wrist, you could say, all right, you're entering an area you're not supposed to be in, a federal building.

But like, they're not adding stuff on.

They're like parading, milling,

you know, just being kind of annoying.

Like, even people who didn't go in the building have been charged and convicted for that it's unbelievable what yeah yeah it's bizarre again like they they didn't have to do this right they didn't have to overreach no you did have the overwhelming majority of people together saying hey this is bad stuff the people really responsible for it should should pay for it yeah and instead they they turn that into what if we go after everybody and try to just overthrow the republican nominee so we don't have to actually win the election we just get it by default.

If you didn't do that

and you didn't call it an insurrection, you called it what it was.

It was a riot.

Riot.

Okay.

Everybody'd be fine with that.

I think even on our side.

Totally.

Oh, yeah, we would.

If it was fair justice, I'd be fine with some of those folks going to jail.

You bet.

Yeah.

By the way, I looked up parading.

It is a

marching or moving around in a place in an ostentatious or attention-seeking way.

Well, I mean, can we get the Kardashians in prison for life on that one?

Wow.

Oh, man.

Wow.

Okay.

Anything else that is big that we should be covering today?

What was the big story on your show today, Pat?

Well,

several things, but

I'm interested right now in sort of the shift in the Democrat response to last week.

Now, now it seems to be, okay, we're not getting rid of the guy.

We're going to make excuses for him.

Have you sensed that as well?

Well, I saw that he was overprepared as well as

underprepared.

Right.

He was both over and underprepared.

Yeah.

Yeah, I saw that.

And it really hurt him

to be both at the same time.

And plus the cold.

You know, when you got a cold and you're over and underprepared, you're not going to do well.

And then there's just a plain.

It was one bad night.

One bad night.

Get up.

Three and a half great years, Pat.

A great 50 years of public service and one bad night.

One bad night.

I'm just going to toss this guy out of the way.

Tell that to Rick Perry.

Tell it to Rick Perry.

Rick had

back surgery.

Yeah.

He took,

you know, he took painkiller before he went on stage.

He couldn't remember one answer and he was doomed.

Yeah.

You're out.

Yes.

You're out.

Plus, I could show you another about 600 nights and days where he was just as bad, if not worse, than last Thursday night.

Yeah.

It's not one bad night.

Let's just make that really clear.

The guy has been declining for years now.

Yeah.

You know, the couple things I keep thinking of, Pat, when it's related to this is, number one,

how bad that interview with Robert Hurr must be.

Oh my gosh.

You know, I was always to see it.

Obviously, you're skeptical.

Why are they protecting this?

Well, we now know, right?

Like, we now know it must have looked a lot like that debate and maybe worse.

Yeah.

And that's why they don't want that released and they're faking executive privilege on this.

I mean, that is, how bad must that be?

And secondarily,

think of like the more that I keep coming back to is the real indicator, because we've all been on this bandwagon, right?

We were back at this bandwagon when he initially got elected that he was too old for this job.

But the progression is considerably worse.

You watch 2019, 2019, 2020 debate footage.

Oh, it's a big deal.

Totally, totally different.

We played him back to back earlier this week or maybe late last week, and it's unbelievable.

It's a different person.

We're not talking about Sarah Palin footage

or Paul Ryan debate footage.

We're talking about

2020 debate footage is totally different.

The other one that really hits me is him skipping.

that Super Bowl interview.

Yeah.

I mean, the fact that they decided not to do an interview You know with the Super Bowl audience right there 100 million people watching with CBS news like not exactly like you know you're talking to the blaze here

and they decided you know what let's just not expose them to a hundred million people in this election season that we're actually kind of behind in yeah what do they know what have these people seen behind the scenes a lot okay so here's the thing here's the thing and democrats if you're listening i want you to know the worst thing you could do, the worst thing, it'll be my worst nightmare is if

you just let him run.

Oh, yeah.

I agree.

If you don't replace him,

that's a nightmare scenario.

I hope you replace him.

We all hope you replace Joe Biden immediately.

Please replace him, replace him, replace him.

Now, with that being said,

think about the mentality.

What you know, just as a

human being.

You saw him in 2019.

You saw him

last week.

You're seeing him every day.

Everybody knows.

And you're saying four more years.

It's be lucky to make it four more weeks.

Four more years.

You know, you might want to say, hey, we're going to up Kamala up on the ticket to make sure everybody understands who Kamala is because she's great because she'll be the next president if he wins.

I don't think there's any doubt of that.

No doubt.

There's no doubt.

You know, a lot of people said this before going into 2020.

There's no way he lasts four years.

And I was like, yeah, but

he really wants it.

And you can't take that away from a president of the United States with that desire to stand to power.

He and Jill both really want it.

And all the people around him.

Think of all these people.

These people you look at on TV and you're like, gosh, these...

They're awful.

Like, why do they have these jobs?

People like Anthony Blinken and Corinne Jean-Pierre and like all these

just dolts.

The reason why their existence is notable in any way, the only thing they'll ever have is Joe Biden's ear.

It's the only thing that makes them significant in life at all.

And if he goes away, they go away.

So they're going to fight tooth and nail to keep him in power no matter what.

Yep.

And that's why, like,

you can't be certain

as obvious as it is that they should switch him out.

You can't be certain they're going to do it.

And in the meantime, it's elder abuse.

That's what we need to.

Yeah.

It's elder abuse.

No, it's not.

It is the right thing.

You're right.

Yes.

It's the right thing.

He deserves it.

He's been great.

He's been a great president.

You know, I just hope they don't switch him out.

I just hope.

I hope.

I mean, I hope they do.

Wait.

I hope they do switch him out.

I mean, that's what I mean.

That's what I mean.

I hope they do.

He's too good.

Yeah, he's too good.

That's what I was trying to say.

Thank you, Pat, for correcting me.

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It's more like you want to talk to him off the air so you can steal his ideas and look smart on the air.

That's what it's like.

Oh my gosh,

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The smartest guy and one of the guys I really, really respect and always listen to, no matter if I agree or disagree, Jonathan Turley is up next.

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Jonathan Torley, welcome to the program, sir.

It is an honor to have you.

Thank you very much, Glenn.

I really appreciate you having me on.

Yeah.

You are one of those guys that I have been watching since the Clinton thing,

when I think you first kind of really appeared in a big way.

And there are times, and this is always a judge to me of when somebody is speaking their truth, and I hate that word,

those words, but when they're speaking from a position where they believe this is the way it is, you piss me off sometimes,

and you also really agree with me sometimes, or I agree with you sometimes.

And that's really the secret of the Constitution, right?

I mean, it cuts both ways.

It does.

And I think that the point is, I think,

profound that you're making, and that the key about our system is this level of civility that we can disagree on occasion, but also recognize that we have certain core values.

That's sort of what my new book's about, that

there are certain core values that bond us to each other, even when we vehemently disagree.

So would you say that that is the

because I've been trying to find what the problem is, and

forgive me if you disagree, but I think the biggest problem is this whole early 20th century progressive attitude that just goes beyond the Constitution and written,

you know, our written principles.

But we don't agree on even the Bill of Rights anymore.

You can't.

No, I agree with you, and it is coming from the left.

That's what my new book talks about, that

I do believe that the greatest threat that we have faced, particularly for free speech, is found in the times we're living.

I think this is the most anti-free speech period in our history, and it is the most dangerous because there are differences.

And one is this alliance that exists now that has never formed before of the government, corporations, academia, and the media.

We've never had that before.

I mean, the sort of book goes through all of the anti-free speech periods we've had.

We've never faced this organized effort.

And we can't assume that just because we survived earlier periods with our constitutional intact, that that's going to be how this all plays out today.

First of all, I love you, so I'm going to give you a piece of advice because you are a constitutional scholar.

I'm a broadcast guy.

Three times now you've said, my new book, always say, my new book, The Indispensable Right.

that way you just keep name-dropping all the time my new book the indispensable right talks about that anyway his book is

the indispensable right and it is about the first amendment and how freedom of speech there is this systematic effort to take it out so let's talk about that

well you know it's it's i i'm still sort of amazed that

we've seen this free anti-free speech movement progress to where it is.

I have a long chapter in The Indispensable Right.

Did I do that one right?

Yeah, you did.

You did.

Very good.

But I have a long chapter, for example, on academia and in higher education.

And

I'm still surprised.

I've got a colleague who has drafted a new amendment to the First Amendment and has been praised for it on NPR and other news organizations.

She maintains that that the First Amendment is excessively individualistic.

Those are her words.

And so the new amendment would allow the government to curtail free speech in the interest of equity.

And

other professors have published anti-free speech books that have also been widely praised, saying that we have to get beyond individual rights.

Some Georgetown professors, a Harvard professor, Yale professor said we need to break away from what they call constitutionalism.

So there's this war on rights generally coming from the left.

It is very popular among

academics, and it's gaining steam.

And so they're raising a generation now of speech phobics, kids that have been told their whole lives that free speech is harmful and triggering.

So there's two parts to this, and I think your new book, The Indispensable Right, talks about it,

where Where

you have this culture where we are teaching kids and everybody else, hey, that's harmful speech.

You can't say that.

Don't say that.

That hurts people.

Well, that could be a choice, but that's not.

Speech.

The only speech that needs to be protected is the speech that everybody disagrees with or finds offensive.

That's what that's for.

You don't need to protect the nice, rosy speeches and the speech.

The other part part of that is, as you say, is now being institutionalized.

But this really started with FDR.

It's

taken some root with Cass Sunstein's works, hasn't it?

It has.

And what you're seeing is that it's now in vogue to be anti-free speech.

I'm a dinosaur in higher education.

I mean, most universities have purged conservatives, libertarians, Republicans from their ranks.

In self-reported surveys,

about 40% in one survey, didn't have a single Republican on the faculty.

The book talks about how

the Harvard Crimson had

this piece, which wasn't intended to be hilarious, but they did this huge piece on the last Republican on the Harvard faculty.

in this department.

And it was like a 90-year-old economist.

And they did everything but sort of poke him with a stick.

I mean, they were sort of fascinated about this is a real Republican still on Harvard's campus.

And what's a shame about that, and I go into this in Indispensable Write, because

I went to University of Chicago and loved it.

Because when I went there, it was for me like the Star Wars bar scene.

It's like every possible sort of view.

I actually lived in

Dorchester Cooperative where the book The Jungle was written.

And in the basement was

a bunch of Trotskyites that would meet.

Next door was a bunch of libertarians.

Upstairs we had militant vegans.

And I loved it.

I thought most people were absolutely insane.

But I was fascinated to talk to people that saw what I was seeing

but concluded something completely different from what I was concluding.

You don't get that anymore.

I feel sorry for students today because it now the sole

sort of range of viewpoints goes from the left to the far left.

I think that is starting to change somewhat

in public.

I don't, it's not in academia, and I don't know about your circles, but it is changing to where I once again have friends that are far

left, you know, that we disagree with each other on a lot of things, but neither of us believe that our views should be enforced,

you know,

and

people silenced for their viewpoint.

The only way you learn and grow is if you have somebody say something that you are like, that's not right.

And then you're challenged on it, or you challenge them, and then you either discover you're wrong or or they're wrong or there's something missing in the conversation that we both need to explore.

No, you're right.

I mean the problem that I have is how

to regain greater intellectual diversity, particularly in higher education, after this purging.

There's just simply very few alternative viewpoints and it is still a vicious environment.

You know, the book goes into stories.

Which book?

Which book?

The Indispensable Right goes into these stories of academics.

You know, there's one guy in North Carolina that they pursued for years.

He had to go to court three times to keep his job.

Then someone found out he made a joke to a bunch of friends at a lunch, and he was put again under investigation.

And finally, they pressured him to resign.

And on the last day that he would be a professor, he went home and blew his brains out.

And he's not the only suicide.

What people don't understand is that if you are a dissenting voice today in higher education, they take everything away from you that an intellectual values.

They take away publication opportunities, conferences, associations, and they strip you of everything you value.

And it has succeeded in silencing professors.

I've had professors send stuff to my blog, which is a free speech blog.

And

these are, and I always write back, say, why don't you write this up?

And they said, look, you know, I'm 40, I'm 50,

I can't lose this job, and I can't be targeted.

I need to be able to publish.

And so it's been very successful.

What people don't understand is the reason that academic blew his brains out.

is that he went home and realized that today was going to be my last day to do the only thing I ever wanted to do.

That's the environment we're living in now.

It is fearful and it's chilling.

So it goes beyond, let's move out of academia and talk about

this monster of public-private partnerships in social media, for example,

where the government can come in and lay a heavy hand.

And sometimes they are willingly doing it.

Sometimes they're doing it it because we got to negotiate with the government on this, and it's much more important, just let this go.

I mean,

it seems to me that the administrative state has found that we don't need Congress anymore.

We don't need to try to pass anything.

We can just get others in the private sector to do what we want them to do and silence people.

No, that's absolutely right.

And

I go into a great depth about this

alliance and how it has laid out as the indispensable right.

And,

you know, it's

this partnership is really quite daunting.

And it's been very successful.

And President Biden has played a big role in that.

I mean, Joe Biden is arguably the most anti-free speech president since John Adams.

And

that may sound like it says a lot, but it's very true that John Adams was...

Hold on, hold on just a second, because I want to make sure you're not interrupted during that.

I'm going to take a one-minute break back with Jonathan Turley, and I can't wait to hear how Biden even rivals John Adams coming up.

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Jonathan Turley has has a new book out called The Indispensable Right.

My gosh, I can't get him to stop saying that name.

The Indispensable Right, Free Speech in an Age of Rage.

And you just made a, I mean, a pretty remarkable statement that Joe Biden is up there with John Adams.

In case people don't know, explain John Adams, you think, no, he's a founder.

Oh, yeah.

Explain John Adams and then compare him to Biden.

Well, you know, The Indispensable Right has a long treatment of our historical periods.

And probably the most interesting one is the earliest one of the Adams administration.

And John Adams was a terrible hypocrite.

You know, he was someone who praised the Boston Tea Party.

You know, this country was born in rage.

That's what the Boston Tea Party was.

And he praised it as a majestic moment.

But as soon as he became president, he proceeded to try to arrest and even execute political opponents.

And that included members of Congress, ministers, writers,

and

they were all gathered up under the Alien and Sedition Acts.

And at the end of his life, he tried to sort of reverse engines and say that, you know, he sort of blamed it on others, which was rather pathetic.

What's fascinating is in 1800, Thomas Jefferson ran on free speech,

on contesting Adams, who is seeking reelection, because of his crackdown.

And he won.

And in fact, one of the things that I wrote a column recently is that if Trump was smart, he would have history repeat itself.

He would make free speech one of the issues in this campaign, because

Joe Biden is the most anti-free speech president since Adams.

You have a federal government.

And that's taking into consideration Woodrow Wilson?

Yes.

And the reason is that we've never had a censorship program like the one we're seeing today.

One judge referred to it as Orwellian.

And Joe Biden has been a critical role in that.

He gave a speech once and said that

social media companies were, quote, killing people by not censoring more.

His administration has funded academic units,

and other efforts to target, identify individuals and groups.

These grants have gone to trying to squeeze off the revenue of people with opposing viewpoints.

His administration is a nightmare for free speech.

And if Trump was smart, and the other people running against Biden, they would do what Jefferson did.

Because

what I'm trying to get at in the indispensable right is that

We are a divided country.

It's not the first time.

This is not our first age of rage.

But

we still have something in our DNA,

and that is this idea of free speech that binds us.

And this is something that can unify the country.

Polls show that the public is against censorship.

They've opposed these efforts.

And I think that reflects something really profound.

And indeed, the indispensable right is going to get barbs from a lot on the many on the left.

because it suggests one of the things I ask in the book is

why we all agree that free speech is indispensable, which is a term used by Justice Lewis Brandeis.

But we can't agree about why.

And why do we continue to struggle with free speech after so many years?

And I think the answer is we have a sort of original sin in our republic.

When the First Amendment was first drafted, It was the most revolutionary statement of free speech in the history of the world.

It still is.

That's why you have law professors trying to amend it.

It's still controversial.

The idea that you have this simple statement that Congress cannot abridge free speech.

Well, when that was written, many of the framers believed that free speech was a natural right given to them by God.

Okay, hold on just a second.

Hold that thought.

We're going to come back and get the rest of this from Jonathan Turley.

His new book is The Indispensable Right.

The First Amendment is under attack.

Why free speech is important, especially now in our age of rage.

Jonathan Turley, more in a minute.

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And don't lose that skill, Jonathan.

He joins us.

We're talking about his book, The Indispensable Right, and that is freedom of speech.

And you were just going into freedom of speech

and natural law.

Yes, you know, what I really focus on in the beginning of

The Indispensable Right is to look at how free speech was perceived and viewed.

And the most revolutionary aspect of the American Revolution was that free speech was viewed as a natural right.

It was given to you by God, not by the government.

And that comes out in the writings of many people at the time.

And in my view, it's the correct one, that free speech is something that is quintessentially human.

I talk about how we are hardwired, even physiologically, for free speech, that if you deny deny someone free speech, parts of the brain actually shrink.

There's a physiological response, the denial of the ability to express yourself.

And that was captured early on.

But within a few years, the courts returned to this English Blackstonian view of free speech, that it's valued because it helps democracy.

And obviously it does that, but it does something much, much more.

And what I try to get at is why free speech is a natural right.

And, you know, the fact is, as I talk about in the indispensable right, you know, we overlap in DNA.

We have 60% overlap with a banana.

Does that make us talking bananas?

Is that what

we are about?

Or is there something about human beings?

that require us to be able to project part of ourselves into the world around us.

And that's what what is being protected.

But that's what was lost in the courts within a few years of our revolution.

And ever since then, we have been on this slippery slope where courts have done trade-offs on what speech can be protected and when.

You know, I read, I don't remember where, but I read years ago

some of the

dialogue back and forth at the time of the Alien and Sedition Act.

And

they argued,

the winning side argued that the government just cannot be the arbiter of truth.

There's too many strings and

the questions will always go to the highest power.

And if you can't, if the government can say you can't ask that question, or we have the truth, and that is the truth, like they did in COVID, you're screwed because there's nowhere else to go.

That's right.

If you want to see why free speech has to be viewed as indispensable and natural, just look around you.

Look what happened in COVID.

You know, I gave a speech recently in Chicago, and many of the leading scientists that were censored, banned,

throttled because they spoke against policies were there.

And they have been vindicated.

Now federal agencies are are saying what they said.

But, you know, they have not been given back their positions on association.

Some of them were fired.

And that's exactly what this book tries to get at:

there's a danger to denying free speech.

And you saw that with COVID.

We needed to have that debate.

We needed to debate whether we should close all of our schools.

Unlike many of our allies in Europe, we didn't have it because the media, the government, corporations shut down.

Political down.

Yeah.

Jonathan, let me switch gears here a bit.

The idea that the Supreme Court is setting up some Nazi regime is unbelievably

not just laughable, but so disingenuous when they are, you know, the chevron deference.

And now they're saying that, oh, well, the Supreme Court yesterday came out and they made the president a king.

No, they didn't.

If you are doing something that is illegal and unconstitutional, you have impeachment and then you can go to trial.

Am I wrong on that?

What am I missing?

No, you're right.

You're right.

I wrote a column on my blog this morning responding to what the president said last night.

And

what the president said was untrue.

He was misleading the public as to what was said in the opinion.

He said, for example, the Supreme Court gave absolute immunity to presidents on all things and that they could now become effectively dictators.

That's not true.

The Supreme Court adopted the middle path.

It rejected the more extreme arguments presented by the defense.

It rejected the more extreme arguments being presented or what was endorsed by the lower courts.

And instead, it said, look, we're going to divide this into three parts.

If this is a core constitutional function, there's absolute immunity to carrying out those functions.

That's consistent, as Chief Justice Roberts said, with the history of past cases.

This didn't come out of the head of Zeus.

What Robert said is that we've never been pressed on this point to come and delineate these things, but he cited a great deal of cases, a great number of cases, that support that.

The second part is when you have an official function that's removed from those core functions.

And the court said there's a presumptive immunity, which means a president can lose that immunity in court if the prosecutions can establish a case for it.

And then the third category is unofficial conduct and actions, and you have no immunity.

So it's vastly different from what the president and many people in the public have said.

But this is part of the age of rage, right?

This is part of the addiction.

It was triggered immediately as people said, there will be death squads in the street.

And this is

what concerns me is that many politicians are joining in on this in Congress.

And it's reckless, and it's wrong, and it's dangerous.

This is what sends people to houses like Justice Kavanaugh trying to kill him.

So

what is the solution to get

back?

Because all of our institutions are teaching the opposite.

Our press, I think, is they're either just dumb as a box of rocks, have no intellectual honesty or curiosity,

or just

in on it, and they think that the new way is to get rid of capitalism and the republic for which it stands

and

just create a whole new kind of,

in my opinion, dystopian world.

How do we navigate our way through back to

agreeing on principles?

You know, part of the reason, you know, The Indispensable Rights took 30 years to finish was that I didn't want to write a book until I could really deal with not just what free speech means, but how we can have a reawakening in this country to unite it around these core values, particularly free speech.

And I think we can.

And the book has chapters on the media, higher education, on Congress.

The media...

is going to hopefully correct itself because it's killing itself.

Media outlets are failing.

People are not buying it.

You know, the whole Let's Go Brandon movement was a criticism of the media as much as the president.

And you have new media emerging, much like at the beginning of our Republic.

But I emphasize that we need to retake higher education.

We need to restore a diversity of thought, and it goes through various ways to do that.

One of the proposals I make, by the way, can be done very quickly in the new Congress if we have the votes.

And that is pass a law that prohibits a single federal dollar from being used to support, including through grants, any organization trying to censor, target,

or squeeze the revenue of opposing views, to get the government out of the censorship business, to say you cannot spend a dime on those types of programs.

Now that means that the agencies can speak in their own voice.

If Majorkis wants to go on Homeland Security's website and say everyone's everyone's a liar, then God bless them.

That's fine.

What he can't do is to do what he's doing now, which is to use surrogates for censorship.

Congress can pass that law easily, get the government out of censorship, and then we can turn to higher education.

And one of the things I propose is to say that you cannot receive federal funding from the U.S.

government unless you meet 10 simple principles in the book on free speech.

You know, if these universities were committing racial discrimination, discrimination, nobody would object to withholding federal funds.

And yet they can deny the core right of citizens of free speech.

And yet everyone says, well, that's their choice.

It's not their choice.

We're not a captive audience.

State legislators do not have to fund state universities who are barring the views of half of this nation.

Jonathan, we're out of time.

Would you come back and talk about those

solutions at some point with us?

Of course.

I'd be happy to go.

Okay.

Great.

Jonathan Turley, the name of the book, again, he never mentioned it.

The indispensable right.

It's available at bookstores everywhere.

Thank you so much, Jonathan.

Sincerely, from all of us

doing what we do.

You are always honest

and

we may not agree with each other all the time, but you have, it's good to hear somebody that you know they're not playing games.

This is what they really believe, and you're saying it.

Thank you.

God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

It was great to talk to you.

Great.

Thank you.

Jonathan Turley.

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So I don't know if you saw Vogue magazine.

No, I don't even know where they sell those things anymore.

But Vogue magazine, Jill Biden, was on the cover.

And that's why they had to leave the debate.

And the very next day, they had to be in New York with Annie Leibowitz

doing a photo shoot with the whole family.

And it was great

So she's on the cover and she's wearing a beautiful Ralph Lauren dress which only retails for about $5,000.

So who doesn't have one of those in the closet?

You know, it's

It's an interesting look.

She's wearing a $5,000 dress on the cover and then she talks about food prices.

And she knows that food prices are up and people are really struggling.

But But she's, you know, she's a down-to-earth Dr.

B.

She is.

She's, you know, she teaches in Wilmington and she shops for her own groceries.

And

she's, you know, working at the community college.

And she said, I assign my students articles instead of books because books are expensive.

Wow, that's how down-to-earth she really is.

She's great.

She's great.

Now, she's married to

Joe Biden, who is, has always been incompetent.

Let's be honest about it.

Never really did anything in his life.

That's why he's always a truck driver.

Or, you know, I was, you know, I taught

constitutional law.

No, he didn't.

No, he didn't.

He's done every job.

He's lived in every neighborhood.

He's, you know, he was there marching with the civil right.

No, he wasn't.

No, no, he wasn't.

He was standing up for Martin Luther King, you know, when he was in Congress.

No, he got into Congress in the early 1970s.

Martin Luther King was dead.

I don't know if he notices that.

He's always, he's making stuff up about himself, I think, because

he's a bit player in somebody else's show.

He's always been a bit player, and he wants to be the man.

You know, he wants to, you know,

give himself credit for something because he doesn't have anything real.

And I think, you know, he acted like a big shot.

And,

you know, he's not Bill and Hillary Clinton.

He's not as subtle at bribery and theft, I guess.

Chelsea's not a crack addict.

So, you know, but I think, you know, he was playing the big shot by going over to, you know, Ukraine and saying, yeah, I'm not going to give him that, you know, billion dollars unless they fire this prosecutor.

He had to tell that story.

He had to tell that story.

Even though it implicates him in crimes, he had to tell that story because it made him a big man.

Now

everything's starting to fold in on them and they, you know,

they're going to get caught.

They're already the loans, the kickbacks,

you know, the

70 yellow flags from the treasury and banks.

I mean, it can be unraveled fairly easy.

He doesn't have the capability of hiding it anymore and she has to protect him and the whole family.

Can you imagine doing that?

They can't trust the Obamas to protect them.

I mean, Barack was running a lot of the show behind the scenes, but Michelle's not going to risk anything to save the Bidens.

And Jill knows if Joe doesn't control the Justice Department, they're sunk.

They're sunk.

I think she's trying to hold the crime family together as long as she possibly can.

But also because she is

somebody who loves being the first lady.

She loves it.

You know, it's the one thing I had respect for

Michelle Obama.

She didn't love it.

Now, I lost respect because she actually hated it and didn't want to be, you know, was, was, just didn't want to be in the White House because of all the oppression and blah, blah, blah.

But usually, people who want it are dangerous when they have that much power.

You know, we've already had our first female president.

I don't know if people know that.

And this isn't a trick.

You know, it's not like, yeah.

It's, we actually had a female president for 17 months.

And it was in 1919.

And it was Edith Wilson.

She actually became the acting president because she assigned herself.

I mean,

her husband was trying to push the League of Nations, which then later became the U.N., and America wouldn't have it.

And so he got on a train and he was traveling coast to coast.

And I think he was in California.

And in the middle of the speech, he did what Joe Biden is doing now.

He just stopped.

And everybody freaked out and he couldn't recover.

And so they rushed him off stage, put him on a train, rushed him back to

Washington, D.C.

And when I say rushed him back, put him on a train.

So it was days.

He gets back to Washington.

He has another stroke in the White House.

Edith is the only one that sees it.

She puts him in bed and realizes, oh boy, we're in trouble here because,

you know, we're going to have to leave the White House soon.

Now,

she was born poor.

She grew up, I think, in West Virginia.

She married

some old guy when she was young who owned the largest jewelry store, I guess, in West Virginia.

And

so he was worth a lot of money.

So she married him young.

Then he died.

And then

she decided, I want to date Woodrow Wilson because he's cool.

And

Woodrow Wilson fell in love with her because she had a kitten face.

I don't know exactly what that means, Woody, but

have you seen the cat lady?

Anyway, so he,

you know, he marries her.

She just wants recognition.

She likes being someone, okay?

So she marries Woodrow Wilson, and then a few years later, You know, he's having a stroke.

Well, she was never anyone.

And and now her ticket to being someone just dropped almost dead.

So they were,

they were in the White House with her kittenish good looks, and

he's now in bed,

and everybody is talking in Washington, the cabinet, everybody, where's the president?

Now, Woodrow Wilson gave her the keys, literal keys, to all of the safe and locked drawers and doors in the White House.

She would sit in on all of the war meetings and all meetings, and she would just take notes.

Exactly what Jill Biden has been doing.

Okay.

And then

when he drops almost dead from a stroke, he's up in bed and she would go into the meetings and she would say, it's okay.

President sent me down.

I'll report to him.

I'm just supposed to take notes and talk to you about it.

And then I'll report on what he says.

So she'd take notes and then she'd go upstairs and then she'd scribble stuff on the side of all of her notes and she'd say, it's shaky handwriting, you know, because he's, but he's, I went through it and this is what he wants you to do.

It wasn't what he wanted to do.

It's what she wanted to do.

She wrote the little notes and then she would go back and she would say, this is what he wants to do.

At one point, I think

I'm probably wrong.

You'll have to look this this up.

I think it was the Treasury Secretary.

It was one of the secretaries, somebody in the cabinet.

And they ordered a cabinet meeting to

come together and didn't alert her.

She fired him.

Okay, imagine the wife of the president.

She blamed it on Woodrow, but

he wasn't around.

He couldn't understand it.

For 17 months, this went on.

And

she called this her stewardship.

I'm just being a steward of the president.

I'm just, you know, the country's in need and the president needs some rest.

And so he's just giving me this stewardship.

She was actually the president of the United States.

She was the acting president of the United States.

And she convinced the vice president

that the president didn't need to be replaced.

Because, you know, they talked about

we should probably have the vice president.

And she's like, no, he's going to be fine.

You know, just be a couple more weeks.

It's always a couple more weeks just going to be a couple more weeks he's just you know he just needs some rest uh and uh you know he's working from the bedroom and uh you know i'm i'm just helping it's my stewardship it's

it's really my my sacrifice for the nation well eventually

um

the congress got together of his own party and they marched to the White House and they got the cabinet together and they said, Edith, I demand to see the president right now.

She said, Well, you can't.

He's sleeping.

Well, we don't care.

We need to see him right now because she was telling the Democratic Party he's going to run for a neck for another four years.

Now, what does that sound like?

So, Edith Wilson

starts to register her husband, Woodrow Wilson, for a campaign.

He hasn't been seen in almost

two years.

They said, you're not running.

We're going to let this

run its course if you let us see the president right now.

And we won't kick him out of office, but he's not running for president for a third term, and this is going to come to an end.

That's finally what she agreed with.

She finally was like, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Now, up until her death in 1961, she said, oh, no, no, I

was never the president.

I was never the president.

But I did know him so well that I did,

you know, I just conferred that to the others, that that's what the president would

want and would want to be doing right now.

But she was our first president.

Now, does any of that, any of that sound familiar?

Any of it?

Any, anybody?

So Jill Biden likes being the

first lady.

She's dangerously close to being POTUS, not FLOTUS.

And

from apparently good sources around

those those who know.

I don't put any stock into this.

But negotiations are underway, and I do believe that.

Just like negotiations were underway with Nixon,

with Nixon and Watergate.

They said, okay, you're leaving because you don't have, but we're not going to, he's, Ford is going to pardon you so you don't go to jail.

And we're just going to walk away nice.

Well, Jill has some power.

She wants, apparently, protection from prosecution of the Biden family.

She wants $2 billion presidential library fund.

And she wants a guaranteed book deal.

Now, I don't know if any of this is true.

But that's the kind of stuff that Edith Wilson would have done.

Building

her husband into something that he really wasn't

to make sure that she is remembered and powerful and that she gets the credit she deserves.

We'll see.

I just thought it was an interesting history lesson today that maybe

somebody might find a little familiar today.

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Stu, welcome to the program.

Have a great program so far because you haven't joined in.

Try to avoid it as much as possible.

But yeah, it's been fantastic, the parts I've heard.

Yeah.

You've been sitting there the whole time.

You haven't been

listening the whole time?

There's all these shows.

There's all sorts of other good shows that are on this time of day.

So I've just been checking those out.

Right.

All right.

Well, is there anything that we've missed so far that you're like, my favorite story of the day?

What is it?

RFK Jr.

ate a dog.

Why aren't we talking about this?

I want to talk about RFK Jr.

eating canines.

Okay, well, he did it in Asia.

Oh, well, there's a great excuse.

Well, no, I mean, it's not like he's

not like he is out for fluffy in the, you know, in your neighborhood at night.

I would say that about you, Glenn.

I would say that about you.

Glenn Beck is not going to go kill Fluffy in the middle of the night.

Why would I do that?

One indication is you've never eaten a dog.

You can say the same thing about myself.

I've never eaten a dog, so you could probably trust me around your dog.

Can you trust RFK Jr.

around your dog?

Because

he apparently was eating dogs all over the world.

He's got pictures of himself with a barbecued dog.

Now, this is not a picture he released, of course, mind you, but they

he apparently did this.

And shockingly, Glenn, it was the same year they found a dead worm in his brain, which I who would have shot up coming.

I don't know how it could have occurred.

So, wait a minute, you're tying together a worm that he might have gotten while eating dogs?

I'm not a scientist here, right?

But yes, I'm tying those two things in.

I also love that he also

had to have his his sister actually had to cut his comments from an environmental documentary because they were just wrong.

Now, think about this.

This is a movie made by his sister, who's also a crazy liberal, talking about crazy liberal environmental policies.

And he was so wrong, they had to cut his comments out of the documentary.

What could that have possibly been?

Because he says crazy ass stuff

about global warming.

Yes, all the time.

All the time.

And I don't know, how do you feel about asking a nanny to rub lotion on you?

Have you done that, Glenn?

How many times have you done?

When you were eating dogs,

go and ask your nanny for lotion to be rubbed on you.

No, I have asked my dog to rub lotion on me, and it turned out to be barbecue sauce, which then freaked me out a little bit.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

That's a story.

That's another story that maybe Vanity Fair can come up with.

I will say, Christy Noam's going to be pissed, right?

Like, she wrote this book and she had this dog story and she's just gone.

And RFK Jr.

gets to eat dogs.

And apparently he's going to get 10% of the vote, which is

really unfair when you think about it.

This guy is...

And it, of course, doesn't even talk about all of his womanizing and all of the other things.

That he's done.

The fact that he's being considered as a candidate, because I look, you might like a viewpoint or two of his, but it is amazing that this man is being considered a serious candidate.

I know he's not going to win, but I mean, he may be the highest third-party candidate since Ross Perot.

Although the picture of the barbecue dog in his hand may, may

dent that just a tad.

Yeah, he's not going to do well with the, you know, the liberal animal lovers, the ones that are like, you got to set him free.

He's eating the dog.

And then all of the hunters and everybody else who just love dogs, you know, real people that love real dogs.

Now, you're eating cat.

Have at it.

Have at it.

I don't want to eat one.

But if you want to eat the cat, you could eat every cat on the planet of any size.

Eat them.

Eat them.

Really?

Yes.

You're not just saying this to intentionally piss off cat owners like you do once or twice a month.

Oh my gosh.

Why would you say that?

Are you saying that cat owners are so

mealy-mouthed and so wishy-washy and can't really handle a joke about cats.

Is that what you're saying?

I'm not saying that.

It seems to be what you're saying, though.

No, no, I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying

I think we should try maybe a new American thing.

We can make hot dogs out of cats.

I'm just throwing it out there.

Just throwing it out there.

But there's no pictures of me doing it.

There's no pictures of me eating cats like there are apparently of RFK eating dogs.

America's best friend

oh my gosh did he did he put some rough greens on that let me tell you about good ranchers now good ranchers do not sell dog no

nope nope they don't and this American fourth of July

why don't you sink your teeth into 100% American beef chicken pork seafood.

What is your traditional 4th of July?

Do you have a barbecue stew?

Yeah.

What do you have?

What do I have?

I'm a big fan of mac and cheese is my view.

Yeah, no, not you.

You're not an American.

You're a Canadian sports hero.

I don't even want to hear about it.

I mean, what do you grill for others that are coming?

Oh,

you're asking if I do the work?

No, I don't.

We go over to other people's houses and they eat whatever they make.

Oh, my gosh.

You just hold on to anybody's coattails for a free ride, don't you?

My gosh, so far.

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Well, it looks like Trump has asked for his verdict to be overturned because of Supreme Court ruling.

And the crooked judge, judge crooked, always crooked, always bed crooked, the crooked judge has said he's delaying sentencing while he investigates.

So we should see.

You know,

he's not going to overturn himself because of that,

but

it is slowing that process down.

And that's probably the greatest gift that we'll keep on giving for Donald Trump

until he can win.

There's a couple of stories out that

I think are very important here.

Yeah.

Glenn, one of them ties to what you were just talking about.

Donald Trump, obviously, one of the candidates in the presidential election coming up in November.

Another candidate is RFK Jr., who ate a dog.

You just said this.

We know.

No, he didn't eat a dog.

Did I say that he consumed a canine?

Did I say, did I point out?

No, not in those words.

No, but eating a dog is pretty much the same.

You love this story.

By the way, you know when he texted this photo?

You know why this is out right now?

Just to show you his judgment.

He texted this photo last year in 2023.

The picture is a little old, but he actually texted.

Why?

Well, I think who he texted it to was someone who we believed was a friend and a Democrat who now does not want him to be president.

That's my guess.

Oh, my gosh, man.

Yeah.

But,

you know, he ate a dog, Glenn, and this caused potentially a tapeworm that ate part of his brain.

Now, you know, people say we don't pick our best as nominees for president, but

I think this stands in the face of that.

Right.

And I think.

While

we haven't ever had a president whose part of his brain was eaten by a tapeworm, that is true.

I mean, that's equity, diversity.

That is a problem with what he himself has described as a protracted brain fog, which is exactly what you want out of your president.

We just saw it on the debate stage the other night.

Protracted brain fog.

Right.

And that's because of the worm?

Well, there's a little bit of controversy on that one because that's what I think, that's what RFK Jr.

says the cause is.

The family, let me just read the,

because he said the tape, this is a quote from the article, he said the tapeworm consumed a portion of his brain and led to a protracted brain fog.

But more often, his family points to Kennedy's 14

years as a heroin user.

Now,

I

have never tried heroin.

I have to admit, Glenn, maybe you have some experience in this area, but never- No, no, never tried it.

I feel like you don't, who lives through 14 years of heroin use?

Is that a thing?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know heroin users.

Maybe because they all die.

Yeah.

But I don't, no, I don't know.

14 years.

You know, that's left out on his

on his resume.

Well, that and eating dogs.

Yeah, because I don't know if people know this.

He actually ate a dog, which gave him the tapeworm.

Which gave him the brain fog,

which was probably actually caused by heroin use.

But right elections.

the dog eating the dog eating probably was also brought on by the heroin use yeah at some point really it kind of kicked in dog yeah that's true that's good it's a good point although it does sort of i mean when you talk about a brain fog if you think too much about the dog that he ate it might derail you from the fact that he kept a journal of all the women he slept with while cheating on his wife that his wife later found and killed herself.

That usually is something that's a little bit hidden.

Well,

that's a novel happening there.

Yeah.

And a movie.

You know, a movie would be a good place for him to be.

The White House, not a good place for him to be.

Okay.

The transition from gas-powered automobiles to electric vehicles has been, you know, a little slow, a little slow.

And there's a new problem with the EV charging stations now.

You know, most people drive electric cars.

About 60% of them say they'd give their right arm to go back to a gasoline car.

But, you know, don't worry about that.

Don't worry about that.

They're expensive.

Don't worry about that.

They're unreliable.

Don't worry about that.

But they're environmentally friendly.

Well, not really.

Not really.

It takes more

CO2 to make.

the

car than it does a gasoline car.

And then, you know, you're charging it up using electricity.

And that electricity is coming from, oh, I don't know, where?

Where?

So here's the latest problems.

Apparently, the problem is the power supply.

We don't have the power to be able to charge all of these.

It's just

something that

they didn't notice at the beginning when they were, and they were like, you know, well, but we're going to build half a million charging stations.

Yeah, but they've only built seven of them so far.

Out of the half million, seven.

So

that's kind of a kind of a problem.

84% of fleet owners draw their

grid power from a utility.

So there's not a lot of solar panels or anything else

that are helping.

Hang on just a second.

Who is this on the phone?

Hi, it's Bill College from San Diego.

How are you?

Hi, Bill, San Diego.

You were talking about electric cars.

I'm a Tesla owner, and it does have some of its drawbacks, but generally speaking, I like the automobile.

One of the aspects I do enjoy about it is the auto-drive feature, which allows me to read articles like about how RFK ate a dog.

This is

very interesting.

I was going down the highway at 75 miles an hour and learned that RFK Jr.

had been on a heroin for 14 years.

Yeah.

And it had a battle.

I think the heroin had a battle, like a civil war inside his brain with a tapeworm and the heroin won.

So I thought that was interesting as a Tesla owner.

Thank you very, very, very, very, very much.

A satisfied Tesla owner.

By the way, they're saying that we're going to need, if we're driving

electric cars, that we're going to need 3,360% more electricity

just to hit the Biden EV goals.

Now, that doesn't include all the electricity for AI and all that stuff that's coming up.

A couple of other stories.

Now, Stu, would you be surprised if I said the New York Times just ran a story where their headline is, France's far right is bad.

That's the actual headline?

That's the actual headline.

France's far right is bad?

Bad.

Yes.

Wow.

That is the level of analysis we've still got in the middle of the year.

We are in idiocracy, aren't we?

This is actually happening.

They've gone a step further, but not as bad as MAGA.

So it's bad.

But not as bad.

Not as bad as MAGA.

Yeah.

We're going to go into that a little bit on tomorrow's program.

Another breaking story.

And

this is going to take you by surprise.

Numerous files of very disturbing child abuse and child pornography.

were found in the possession of a member of the Idaho chapter of the Satanic Temple.

Apparently, he's pled guilty.

Good job, Valley County Sheriff's Office.

They began investigating him.

And

apparently, I mean, I'm sure he's still a member in good standing at the Satanic Temple, but he's on his way to prison here shortly.

Also, July 4th, cookout, record high, record high.

And

found you can feed 10 people cheeseburgers, chicken breasts, pork chops, homemade potato salads, strawberries, and ice cream.

And it's

$71.

Who do we have on the phone now?

Hello.

Hello.

My name is Daniel Kong from Los Angeles.

Just want to say, listening to your commentary about inflation, it's really hitting families across the country, especially this July 4th.

And, you know, you read

the cost of barbecue on 4th of July really is is skyrocketing right now.

One way to drop that cost is to eat dogs.

If you just consume your family pet

like RMK Jr.,

you're able to just really break it down and let you get lots of potato salad on the side.

You don't spend anything on a sink or hot ties or anything.

You just

go right

to Fluffy and you just throw

Fluffy right on the ground.

You can put it on a spigot if you got a rotisserie.

He's really even cooking.

There's nothing like a good pause.

You just crunch on while you're throwing back a bud light.

So happy 4th of July, America.

Vote RFB Jr.

Thank you very much.

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So I've just, you know, back to that cookout cost.

Wasn't it Joe Biden that said, I think in 2021, that you're saving money?

You're saving like 14 cents or 5 cents

this 4th of July, and so it's never been cheaper.

And we all went, what?

Of course it's more expensive.

We now find that it is the latest from a new report from the American Farm Bureau Federation says this, there is 5% increase from last year, almost 30% increase from five years ago, and it's a record high.

When Joe Biden had his first, you know, just game-changing 14-cent savings,

it was, I think, $51

for, you know, the average picnic for $10.

Now it is $71.

Oh, my God.

The report found that two pounds of ground beef now cost $12.77 on average, an 11% increase from last year.

Gee, I wonder why price of beef is going up, Stu.

One half gallon of ice cream now costs $5.65, up 7%.

Cost of lemonade has increased by 12%.

And pork chops and potato chips have also increased by 8%.

So that's good.

That's good.

I think we're on the right track, America.

And we shouldn't forget how much they bragged about that, look, whatever it was, 14 cents savings.

Like, it was like a big deal.

Like, Carolyn Jean-Pierre came out and presented it to the media and fawned over herself for what a wonderful job they were doing.

She said it was proof of Bidenomics working.

The Harvard Caps-Harris poll found Trump heavily favored to win the election, soaring 6%

after the latest debate.

When asked, 52% of poll respondents said Trump won the debate.

22% said Biden won.

The rest, 26, said they were unsure or didn't know who won.

I want to meet those 26%

and then take them into an island where they can live by themselves.

When asked who they would support for president, 47% said they would support Trump.

41% said they would support Biden.

You know, the thing that's going to happen is there's just not going to be any passion behind Biden.

I mean, who's going to go out and vote for him?

You may not vote for Trump, but who's going to go out and vote for him?

You're going to cross the street to vote for him.

Yeah.

And again, how do you get him off the ticket?

You know, you can't.

The other thing, too, is like...

You can't.

I think that's the truth.

It's not to say that they won't find a way if they really want to, because

they also can't just give $500 billion in student loans away.

So, I mean, like, they kind of find ways to do these things at times.

But, like, one of the big issues would be campaign finance, which, by the way, they passed all these laws on campaign finance reform.

If Biden has all this money in his account, you can't just be like, oh, we're just transferring this to Gavin.

Like that's not real.

He can transfer it to the DNC, I believe.

Okay.

And I believe he could transfer it to Harris.

Okay.

Because she's already gotten the ticket in theory.

Right.

But there's all kinds of rules.

It can't be used for, I can't remember what it can't be used for, but it will not help him.

Transferring it over to DNC will not help.

It would help with

the house races or something.

They could do other things with it.

Yeah, maybe.

But there are really strict rules on it, and you can't transfer it unless you're on the ticket.

So I think that it could be transferred to Harris.

Yeah, and

I know we've had this bet going on, but it's my belief and has been for a long time that the most likely alternative to Biden is Harris.

I mean, it sounds crazy because she's so terrible, but first of all, Gavin Newsom's also terrible.

I don't know why people have lost sight of him.

I just know why.

And Gretchen Whitmer, she's awful.

Oh, God.

She bet if she got, she had one good election cycle that was incredibly well timed for her that she did well in.

But like, she was a disaster in COVID and very unpopular as a governor.

She just had one good election cycle where she exceeded expectations.

And everyone's like, well,

she's a warm body, which is more than we have to have a ticket now.

You want to talk about unpopular.

She's so unpopular, they couldn't even find people to kidnap her.

The FBI had to go in and just pretend that they were

a kidnapping force.

I mean, she's that unpopular.

Yes, you could make fun of her.

And she's not a great candidate, but what I will say about her is she's never eaten a dog.

Not once.

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