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So there's a big story about dogs that Stu's all over today.

I've got, well, I'm going to save it for the show.

You don't want to miss that.

Also, Jonathan Turley is with us.

I mean, I think, Stu, I think we're friends.

I think we're friends now.

And

I didn't make it weird, just that I want to be his friend so I can,

you know, steal some of his viewpoints before he prints them and make him my own.

My, have you noticed?

Jonathan Turley is ripping this show off all the time.

Never do that, Jonathan.

Never do that.

Just let's exchange digits and we can chat, you know, before you write your articles.

I need to help you think them through.

Anyway, Jonathan Turley's on with us as well.

A lot of great fun on today's broadcast.

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Well, I just don't know what to say.

I watched the president's speech last night and everybody coming out and saying, he could go after us.

He could just shut us down.

Now that the Supreme Court has ruled, Donald Trump, if he is elected, he'll come in and he'll start putting people in jail.

I want you to remember that here for just a second.

We'll get back to it.

Here's what the president had to say last night at a press conference.

Scott 9.

The presidency is the most powerful office in the world.

It's an office that not only tests your judgment,

perhaps even more importantly, it's an office that can test your character.

Yes.

Because you not only face moments where you need the courage to exercise the full power of the presidency, you also face moments where you need the wisdom to respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.

Yes.

Stop there for a second.

So, Stu, like, what would some of those limits be?

Like, you know, because it's an awesome responsibility to be president of the United States, but you can't just do anything, right?

Like, what would some of the limits be?

You couldn't just go out and kill people, right?

I don't know.

That's not what I've been hearing, Glenn, over the past 24 hours.

My understanding is the the Supreme Court gave a like James Bond license to kill to the President of the United States.

No.

No, I don't think that's true.

But we'll continue to listen.

Yeah, immune, immune, immune, immune.

I didn't hear the whole speech, so we'll go on.

I was thinking like something smaller, like

maybe you say, hey, you've got student loans.

I can't help you with those.

That would be the constitutional thing.

But the president couldn't just say, I'm going to just, you know, forgive all student loans.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean,

you're thinking of the old-timey America.

There was a version of America where the

head of the executive branch couldn't just spend $500 billion on a whim without Congress.

But those days are long gone, Glenn.

Okay, but it would go to the Supreme Court.

It was wrong.

It would go to the Supreme Court and then they'd tell the president to stop it.

And they'd shoot it down.

Well, no, he would just do it again.

Oh,

it went to the Supreme Court already.

Yeah, and they shot it down.

They went to the Supreme Court.

That's weird.

Yeah, so they

just did it again,

but in a slightly different way, like 1% different, and then sends it up through the courts again.

And again, it's going to get rejected again.

But then he'll just do it again.

Right.

Oh, that's weird.

It's an awesome power, and

it shows character, you know, when you restrain yourself from doing those things that you can't do.

Anyway, I digress.

Back to the president.

To respect the limits of the power of the office of the presidency.

Limits.

This nation was founded on the principle of

kings in America.

Right.

Each of us is equal before the law.

No one.

No one is above the law.

Hey, stop for a second.

Stop.

Stop for just a second here.

Stu, are we all equal under the law right now?

I mean, is that true?

Doesn't seem like for instance true.

If you were held in contempt of Congress, right?

You'd go to jail, right?

Yeah.

Like Steve Bannon just went to jail yesterday.

Sure.

Another Trump advisor who said, no, I can't share that.

That's executive privilege.

They sent him to jail.

Navarro, yeah.

But yeah, but

it's all equal, right?

I mean, let's say somebody was, yeah, not releasing

tapes of testimony

and they say, well, that was executive privilege and they're in contempt of congress they go to jail as well right no

i i mean i don't know what you're talking about specifically but what you just described does not sound at all like something that you would go to jail for let's say that you were the head of the doj right and congress said you have to produce this information and then you didn't right you would be totally off congress oh no no that you don't go to jail no no that doesn't seem like a jailable offense at all.

I can see where you're getting confused here.

Like, for example, if you were to

riot

at a federal building,

that's something you'd go to jail.

You'd be going to jail for.

It's wrong.

You don't do those things

on the darkest day.

And then there's another separate scenario where, let's say you were to riot at a federal building, you don't go to jail for that.

But wait, there was just a federal building.

If you riot at a federal building, you're going to jail.

But if you're just simply rioting at a federal building, then you don't go to jail.

You don't go to jail.

So is it kind of like, because it's a very subtle difference.

It's kind of like when you're praying in front of abortion clinic,

you go to jail.

You don't go to jail.

But if you burn down an abortion clinic,

You don't go to jail.

Depends on, are they not, are you burning it down because they're not doing enough abortions?

If you burn it down because they're not frequently aborting enough kids, then yes, you do not go to jail.

But if you burn it down because you think they're doing too many abortions, then obviously you go to jail.

Okay, so if you burned down an abortion clinic, you would go to jail if you disagreed with them.

But if you burn down the people's

business where they were pro-life,

you also go to jail.

They're pro-life, the owners of the business?

Yeah, no, you would not go to jail for that.

Why would you go to jail for that?

I just want to make sure that I understand equal justice under the law, that we're all judged exactly the same.

Now I think we have it.

All right, go ahead with President Biden.

Not even the President of the United States.

Not even.

Today's Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed.

For all practical purposes, today's decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no limits on what a president can can do.

It's a fundamentally new principle.

It's a dangerous precedent.

Dangerous precedent.

Because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the Supreme Court of the United States.

Wow.

Stop just a second.

That is news, isn't it?

I mean, especially to the Supreme Court.

That is news that no matter what the president does, Even if it breaks the law,

you're not going to have to pay a price for it.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know know that.

See, what the left is afraid of right now is what they're saying is he's going to silence speech.

Donald Trump will silence any dissent.

And that's not happening now.

Or he would put his

he'd put his, you know, former allies, I mean, his former foes in jail.

You know, for instance, let's say you're running against a guy who Donald Trump didn't think he could beat, then he would just make up some charges and then get the guy arrested and then keep him, you know, in the court system until you finally got him into jail.

That's what Trump could do.

Trump could do that

because of yesterday's rulings.

So that's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty frightening.

You know,

I think if we're really going to go all the way, what should be terrifying is that Donald Trump could just round up a whole group of people because he didn't like them.

You know what I mean?

Just round them up and then put them like in a concentration camp.

Kind of like FDR did with the Japanese.

And that wouldn't be illegal.

You know, he'd get out of office and he'd never pay the price that FDR had to pay.

Which was he named our best president.

Well, yeah, that's over and over again by stories.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The guys who'd violate these are always the progressives.

Always.

The deep, deep progressives are the ones who violate all these things.

Now, when it comes to just killing people or doing something illegal, the Supreme Court case laid out it must be constitutional.

So

if the president acts in an unconstitutional way,

then you can get him.

But

unless it's unconstitutional, he can't do it.

So it would be unconstitutional to round up the people that disagreed with you.

It would be unconstitutional to silence those who oppose you.

It would be unconstitutional to go after your opposing political foe and try to put them in jail.

All things that Joe Biden is currently doing.

Yeah, I mean, it's funny.

This ruling is coming from Roberts, who's an institutionalist, right?

Like, if anything, we've complained about him a million times because he's so unwilling to shake up things just because, you know, it happens to be the constitutional way.

I mean, Obamacare is a great example of that.

Like, it's going to shake things up.

And I don't want to give the impression that we're, you know, too impactful on society.

He's always doing these things.

And that's, in a way, what this ruling is.

What he's saying is, hey, we shouldn't have, I mean, in a way, it's designed specifically to protect Joe Biden because everybody knows if there's no immunity, what do you think Donald Trump's going to do when he's president of the United States after what he's just been through?

He's going to go in there and find every little thing that he can and go after Joe Biden on it.

He promised to do it with Hillary.

He didn't do it.

He now says he regrets not doing it.

And now they've done it to him.

So you think he's just going to sit back and be like, you know, let me show you what I'm going to do as president.

It's a shoulder shrug.

I don't think that's the way that's going to go down.

In a a way, Roberts is protecting both sides from this back and forth that could easily come.

However, what the president has done is not constitutional, and he should go to jail, not for the things that he's done in office.

I disagree with all of his policies, the whole thing of, you know,

taking away your student loans and things like that.

You know, that's unconstitutional, but I don't think that's something that you go after.

However, the business dealings with China, yeah, I think that should be prosecuted.

At least as far as that happened while he was president.

Right, as far as we know, none of that happened while he was president.

So that wouldn't be covered by this at all.

But what I think Roberts is doing here is just setting a high bar.

Of course, yes, you can go after a president for the worst things in the world.

However, there's a high bar for you to clear.

So don't bother bringing up your BS nonsense every 10 seconds because it's not going to work.

That is a, that's a, beyond the fact that we all knew what he said was true, official acts would be, you'd be, uh, have immunity for, like, you're not able under the law, Glenn, to kill people, right?

Like you don't just, you can't just, we, like, you couldn't send a drone to go start murdering people in other countries.

The president, with his powers as commander in chief, has.

Powers that we don't have, right?

Like, we all know that.

There is some sort of implied immunity for official acts.

So we all knew that.

We all knew unofficial acts would not be covered here.

There's nothing new in this ruling.

It was blatantly obvious, yet they have to do this charade every single time.

And act, oh, gosh, SEAL Team 6 might come and just start being utilized to kill people.

How many different layers of checks and balances would have to, including SEAL Team 6 just going along with this, which they would not be covered to do.

They would all get prosecuted.

They'd all be put in prison.

But like, we're supposed to believe that oh, Donald Trump would be completely fine for doing this.

It's insanity.

All right.

Well, let me just, let me just end with this.

As the president is saying this, two things happened yesterday.

Christian pro-life father of 11 is now facing over a decade in prison.

He's going to be sentenced today.

Okay, for a peaceful protest in Tennessee.

It was a violation of the FACE Act, you know, they were praying in the hallway.

What he said yesterday is this, quote, it's real easy for me.

I can go and go to battle and go to jail as an individual, and it's not a big loss.

The challenge comes when you're leading your family through it, when you're talking to your three-year-old and your 23-year-old and your other family.

Vaughn said that he wanted to pray to God, quote, every day and get up ready to take on the day with whatever circumstances come my way, with a humility and a grace and a spirit-led life that represents

all of us in our society and represents him and our community around us.

How many politicians order their life after truth and justice versus power, greed, negotiation, and negotiating principles?

So here's a guy who said,

I believe what I believe.

God will be with me.

I'm going to go to jail.

At the same time, Bannon also went to jail for a contempt of Congress.

There are now 15, I believe 15 people in the Biden administration that have been deemed in contempt of Congress.

None of them are being prosecuted.

But

Donald Trump's people are.

Bannon said this, and I don't like Bannon.

I don't agree with Bannon on everything.

I think he's

a thought leader that I really strongly disagree with many times.

But he should not be going to jail.

He said, I am proud to go to prison.

If this is what it takes to stand up to tyranny,

if this what it takes to stand up to the corrupt criminal DOJ, if this is what it takes to stand up to Nancy Pelosi, if this what it takes to stand up to Joe Biden, then I am proud to do it.

You have people crying that they might go to prison while they're putting

people in prison for the things that they have done themselves.

Please, Mr.

President, don't talk to me about out-of-control tyranny from the Supreme Court.

They've done exactly the opposite.

They have protected the presidency while they are dismantling the administrative state.

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Jonathan Torley, welcome to the program, sir.

It is an honor to have you.

Thank you very much, Glenn.

I really appreciate you having me on.

Yeah.

You are one of those guys that I have been watching since the Clinton thing,

when I think you first kind of really appeared in a big way.

And there are times, this is always a judge to me of when somebody is speaking their truth, and I hate that word,

those words, but when they're speaking from a position where they believe this is the way it is, you piss me off sometimes,

and you also really agree with me sometimes, or I agree with you sometimes.

And that's really the secret of the Constitution, right?

I mean, it cuts both ways.

It does.

And I think that the point is, I think,

profound that you're making, and that the key about our system is this level of civility that we can disagree on occasion, but also recognize that we have certain core values.

That's sort of what my new book's about, that

there are certain core values that bond us to each other, even when we vehemently disagree.

So would you say that that is the

because I've been trying to find what the problem is, and

forgive me if you disagree, but I think the biggest problem is this whole early 20th century progressive attitude that just goes beyond the Constitution and written

our written principles.

But we don't agree on even the Bill of Rights anymore.

You can't,

you know.

No, I agree with you, and it is coming from the left.

That's what my new book talks about, that

I do believe that the greatest threat that we have faced, particularly for free speech, is found in the times we're living.

I think this is the most anti-free speech period in our history, and it is the most dangerous because there are differences.

And one is this alliance that exists now that has never formed before of the government, corporations, academia, and the media.

We've never had that before.

I mean, the sort of book goes through all of the anti-free speech periods we've had.

we've never faced this organized effort.

And we can't assume that just because we survived earlier periods with our constitutional intact, that that's going to be how this all plays out today.

First of all, I love you, so I'm going to give you a piece of advice because you are a constitutional scholar.

I'm a broadcast guy.

Three times now you've said, my new book, always say, my new book, The Indispensable Right.

That way you just keep name-dropping all the time.

My new book, The Indispensable Right, talks about that.

Anyway, his book is

The Indispensable Right, and it is about the First Amendment and how freedom of speech, there is this systematic effort to take it out.

So let's talk about that.

Well, you know,

I'm still sort of amazed that

we've seen this this anti-free speech movement progress to where it is.

I have a long chapter in The Indispensable Right.

Did I do that one right?

Yeah, you did.

You did.

Very good.

But I have a long chapter, for example, on academia and in higher education.

And

I'm still surprised.

I've got a colleague who has drafted a new amendment to the First Amendment and has been praised for it on NPR and other news organizations.

She maintains that the First Amendment is excessively individualistic.

Those are her words.

And so the new amendment would allow the government to curtail free speech in the interest of equity.

And

other professors have published anti-free speech books that have also been widely praised, saying that we have to get beyond individual rights.

Some Georgetown professors, a Harvard professor, Yale professor said we need to break away from what they call constitutionalism.

So there's this war on rights generally coming from the left.

It is very popular among

academics, and it's gaining steam.

And so they're raising a generation now of speech phobics, kids that have been told their whole lives that free speech is harmful and triggering.

So there's two parts to this, and I think your new book, The Indispensable Right, talks about it,

where

you have this culture where we are teaching kids and everybody else, hey, that's harmful speech.

You can't say that.

Don't say that.

That hurts people.

Well, that could be a choice, but that's not...

Speech.

The only speech that needs to be protected is the speech that everybody disagrees with or finds offensive.

That's what that's for.

You don't need to protect the nice, rosy speeches and the speech.

The other part of that is, as you say, is now being institutionalized.

But this really started with FDR.

It's

taken some root with Cass Sunstein's works, hasn't it?

It has.

And what you're seeing is that it's now in vogue to be anti-free speech.

I'm a dinosaur in higher education.

I mean, most universities have purged conservatives, libertarians, Republicans from their ranks.

In self-reported surveys,

about 40% in one survey didn't have a single Republican on the faculty.

The book talks about how

the Harvard Crimson had

this piece, which wasn't intended to be hilarious, but they did this huge piece on the last Republican on the Harvard faculty.

in this department.

And it was like a 90-year-old economist.

And they did everything but sort of poke him with a stick.

I mean, they were sort of fascinated about this is a real Republican still on Harvard's campus.

And what's a shame about that, and I go into this in indispensable right, because I

went to Uber Chicago and loved it because when I went there, it was for me like the Star Wars bar scene.

It's like every possible sort of view.

I actually lived in the

the Dorchester Cooperative, where the book The Jungle was written.

And in the basement was

a bunch of Trotskyites that would meet.

Next door was a bunch of libertarians.

Upstairs we had millicent vegans.

And I loved it.

I thought most people were absolutely insane.

But I was fascinated to talk to people that saw what I was seeing

but concluded something completely different from what I was concluding.

You don't get that anymore.

I feel sorry for students today because it now the sole

sort of range of viewpoints goes from the left to the far left.

I think that is starting to change somewhat in public.

I don't, it's not in academia, and I don't know about your circles, but it is changing to where I once again have friends that are far

left, you know, that we disagree with each other on a lot of things, but neither of us believe that our views should be enforced,

you know,

and people silenced for their viewpoint.

The only way you learn and grow is if you have somebody say something that you are like, that's not right.

And then you're challenged on it, or you challenge them, and then you either discover you're wrong or they're wrong, or there's something missing in the conversation that we both need to explore.

No, you're right.

I mean, the problem that I have is how

to regain greater intellectual diversity, particularly in higher education, after this purging.

There's just simply very few alternative viewpoints, and it is still a vicious environment.

You know, the book goes into stories.

Which book?

Which book?

The Indispensable Right goes into these stories of academics.

You know, there's one guy in North Carolina that they pursued for years.

He had to go to court three times to keep his job.

Then someone found out he made a joke to a bunch of friends

at a lunch, and he was put again under investigation.

And finally, they pressured him to resign.

And on the last day that he would be a professor, he went home and blew his brains out.

And he's not the only suicide.

What people don't understand is that if you are a dissenting voice today in higher education, they take everything away from you that an intellectual values.

They take away publication opportunities, conferences, associations, and they strip you of everything you value.

And it has succeeded in silencing professors.

I've had professors send stuff to my blog, which is a free speech blog.

And

these are, and I always write back, say, why don't you write this up?

And they said, look, you know, I'm 40.

I'm 50.

I can't lose this job.

And I can't be targeted.

I need to be able to publish.

And so it's been very successful.

What people don't understand is the reason that academic blew his brains out.

is that he went home and realized that today was going to be my last day to do the only thing I ever wanted to do.

That's the environment we're living in now.

It is fearful and it's chilling.

So it goes beyond, let's move out of academia and talk about

this monster of public-private partnerships in social media, for example,

where the government can come in and lay a heavy hand

and sometimes they are willingly doing it.

Sometimes they're doing it because we got to negotiate with the government on this, and it's much more important, just let this go.

I mean,

it seems to me that the administrative state has found that we don't need Congress anymore.

We don't need to try to pass anything.

We can just get others in the private sector to do what we want them to do and silence people.

No, that's absolutely right.

And

I go into a great depth about this

alliance and how it has laid out the indispensable right.

And,

you know,

this partnership is really quite daunting, and it's been very successful.

And President Biden has played a big role in that.

I mean, Joe Biden is arguably the most anti-free speech president since John Adams.

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all right so uh i don't know if you saw vogue magazine

no i don't even know where they sell those things anymore um but uh vogue magazine jill biden was on the cover And that's why they had to leave the debate.

And the very next day, they had to be in New York with Annie Leibowitz

doing a photo shoot with the whole family and it was great

so she's on the cover and she's wearing a beautiful Ralph Lauren dress which only retails for about $5,000 so who doesn't have one of those in the closet

there you know it's it's

It's an interesting look.

She's wearing a $5,000 dress on the cover, and then she talks about food prices.

And she knows that food prices are up and people are really struggling.

But she's, you know, she's a down-to-earth Dr.

B.

She is.

She's, you know, she teaches in Wilmington and she shops for her own groceries.

And

she's, you know, working at the community college.

And she said, I assign my students articles instead of books because books are expensive.

Wow, that's how down-to-earth she really is.

She's great.

She's great.

Now, she's married to

Joe Biden, who has always been incompetent.

Let's be honest about it.

Never really did anything in his life.

That's why he's always a truck driver.

Or, you know, I was, you know, I taught

constitutional law.

No, he didn't.

No, he didn't.

He's done every job.

He's lived in every neighborhood.

He's, you know, he was there marching with the civil right.

No, he wasn't.

No, he wasn't.

He was standing up for Martin Luther King, you know, when he was in Congress.

No, he got into Congress in the early 1970s.

Martin Luther King was dead.

I don't know if he notices that.

He's always, he's making stuff up about himself, I think, because

he's a bit player in somebody else's show.

He's always been a bit player, and he wants to be the man.

You know, he wants to, you know,

give himself credit for something because he doesn't have anything real.

And I think, you know, he acted like a big shot.

And,

you know, he's not Bill and Hillary Clinton.

He's not as subtle at bribery and theft, I guess.

And, you know, Chelsea's not a crack addict.

So, you know, but I think, you know, he was playing the big shot by going over to, you know, Ukraine and saying, yeah, I'm not going to give him that, you know, billion dollars unless they fire this prosecutor.

He had to tell that story.

He had to tell that story.

Even though it it implicates him in crimes, he had to tell that story because it made him a big man.

Now

everything's starting to fold in on them and they, you know,

they're going to get caught.

They're already the loans, the kickbacks,

you know, the

70 yellow flags from the treasury and banks.

I mean, it can be unraveled fairly easy.

He doesn't have the capability of hiding it anymore, and she has to protect him and the whole family.

Can you imagine doing that?

They can't trust the Obamas to protect them.

I mean, Barack was running a lot of the show behind the scenes, but Michelle's not going to risk anything to save the Bidens.

And Jill knows if Joe doesn't control the Justice Department, they're sunk.

They're sunk.

I think she's trying to hold the crime family together as long as she possibly can.

But also because she is

somebody who loves being the first lady.

She loves it.

You know, it's the one thing I had respect for

Michelle Obama.

She didn't love it.

Now, I lost respect because she actually hated it and didn't want to be, you know, was

just didn't want to be in the White House because of all the oppression and blah, blah, blah.

But usually people who want it are dangerous when they have that much power.

You know, we've already had our first female president.

I don't know if people know that.

And this isn't a trick.

You know, it's not like, yeah.

It's, we actually had a female president for 17 months, and it was in 1919, and it was Edith Wilson.

She actually became the acting president, because she assigned herself.

I mean,

her husband was trying to push the League of Nations, which then later became the UN, and America wouldn't have it.

And so he got on a train and he was traveling coast to coast, and I think he was in California, and in the middle of the speech, he did what Joe Biden is doing now.

He just stopped.

And everybody freaked out and he couldn't recover.

And so they rushed him off stage, put him on a train, rushed him back to

Washington, D.C.

And when I say rushed him back, put him on a train.

So it was days.

He gets back to Washington.

He has another stroke in the White House.

Edith is the only one that sees it.

She puts him in bed and realizes, oh boy, we're in trouble here because,

you know, we're going to have to leave leave the White House soon.

Now,

she was born poor.

She grew up, I think, in West Virginia.

She married

some old guy when she was young who owned the largest jewelry store, I guess, in West Virginia.

And so he was worth a lot of money.

So she married him young.

Then he died.

And then

she decided, I want to date Woodrow Wilson because he's cool.

And

Woodrow Wilson fell in love with her because she had a kitten face.

I don't know exactly what that means,

Woody, but

have you seen the cat lady?

Anyway, so he,

you know, he marries her.

She just wants recognition.

She likes being someone, okay?

So she marries Woodrow Wilson.

And then a few years later, you know, he's having a stroke.

Well, she was never anyone.

And now her ticket to being someone just dropped almost dead.

So

they were in the White House with her kittenish good looks.

And

he's now in bed.

And everybody is talking in Washington, the cabinet, everybody, where's the president?

Now, Woodrow Wilson gave her the keys, literal keys, to all of the safe and locked drawers and doors in the White House.

She would sit in on all of the war meetings and all meetings, and she would just take notes.

Exactly what Jill Biden has been doing.

Okay.

And then

when he drops almost dead from a stroke, he's up in bed and she would go into the meetings and she would say, it's okay.

President sent me down.

I'll report to him.

I'm just supposed to take notes and talk to you about it.

And then I'll report on what he says.

So she'd take notes and then she'd go upstairs and then she'd scribble stuff on side of all of her notes.

And she'd say, it's shaky handwriting, you know, because he's, but he's, I went through it and this is what he wants you to do.

It wasn't what he wanted to do.

It's what she wanted to do.

She wrote the little notes and then she would go back and she would say, this is what he wants to do.

At one point,

I think

I'm probably wrong.

You'll have to look this up.

I think it was the Treasury Secretary.

It was one of the secretaries, somebody in the cabinet.

And they ordered a cabinet meeting to

come together and didn't alert her.

She fired him.

Imagine the wife of the president.

She blamed it on Woodrow, but

he wasn't around.

He couldn't understand it.

For 17 months, this went on.

And

she called this her stewardship.

I'm just being a steward of the president.

I'm just, you know, the country's in need and the president needs some rest.

And so he's just giving me this stewardship.

She was actually the president of the United States.

She was the acting president of the United States.

And she convinced the vice president

that the president didn't need to be replaced.

You know, they talked about what do we, we should probably have the vice president.

And she's like, no, he's going to be fine.

You know, just be a couple more weeks.

It's always a couple more weeks.

Just going to be a couple more weeks.

He's just, you know, he just needs some rest.

And, you know, he's working from the bedroom.

And, you know, I'm just helping.

It's my stewardship.

It's really my sacrifice for the nation.

Well, eventually,

the Congress got together of his own party, and they marched to the White House and they got the cabinet together and they said, Edith, I demand to see the president right now.

She said, Well, you can't.

He's sleeping.

Well, we don't care.

We need to see him right now because she was telling the Democratic Party he's going to run for a neck for another four years.

Now, what does that sound like?

So, Edith Wilson

starts to register her husband, Woodrow Wilson, for a campaign.

He hasn't been seen in almost two years.

They said, you're not running.

We're going to let this

run its course if you let us see the president right now.

And we won't kick him out of office, but he's not running for president for a third term, and this is going to come to an end.

That's finally what she agreed with.

She finally was like, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Now, up until her death in 1961, she said, oh, no, no,

I was never the president.

I was never the president.

But I did know him so well that I did,

you know, I just conferred that to the others, that that's what the president

would

want and would want to be doing right now.

But she was our first president.

Now, does any of that,

any of that, sound familiar?

Any of it?

Any, anybody?

So, Jill Biden likes being the

first lady.

She's dangerously close to being POTUS, not FLOTUS.

And

from apparently good sources around

those who know, I don't put any stock into this, but negotiations are underway, and I do believe that.

Just like negotiations were underway with Nixon,

with Nixon and Watergate.

They said, okay, you're leaving because you don't have, but we're not going to, he's, Ford is going to pardon you so you don't go to jail.

And we're just going to walk away nice.

Well, Jill has some power.

She wants, apparently, protection from prosecution of the Biden family.

She wants $2 billion presidential library fund.

And she wants a guaranteed book deal.

Now, I don't know if any of this is true.

But that's the kind of stuff that Edith Wilson would have done.

Building her

husband into something that he really wasn't

to make sure that she is remembered and powerful and that she gets the credit she deserves.

We'll see.

I just thought it was an interesting history lesson today that maybe

somebody might find a little familiar today.

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