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It is Monday, and we have some good news for you.

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I am still recovering from eye surgery and my My doctor told me about a week and a half.

She said, you're going to get into about almost two weeks and you're going to

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really want to scratch your eyes out and wonder why you've ever done this.

And I am in that period right now and I can barely see, and it is driving me out

of my mind.

I can't see anything.

It's still all blurry, and it's

but this too shall pass, according to this doctor.

Anyway, so Pat is joining me.

Stu is joining me today.

Thank you so much, guys.

We've got a big show lined up for you today.

I wanted to start with Donald Trump and the poll numbers.

Stu?

Yeah, I mean, obviously the polling has been pretty solid for Donald Trump here, especially in swing states over the past few months.

And it's been

holding pretty steady.

It's a close race.

And I think people at times can lose sight of that because of

you see polls here and there that might show him with seven-point leads in some of these big states.

A 12-point lead in Nevada we saw recently.

That's huge.

But it's still a close race, and he still has to pull off a couple of states and win them that

Joe Biden won in 2020.

A couple of interesting things on that front.

He now is on the prediction markets, and we talk about the prediction markets each cycle because they're kind of interesting.

It's not what people say they believe.

It's not what people are like.

Put your money where your mouth is.

This is people putting their money.

They're betting on the outcomes.

So this is really a snapshot, not necessarily of where the race is.

It could be totally wrong, but it is a snapshot of what people actually believe.

And what we've seen, generally speaking, throughout this cycle is a pretty close race.

Biden may be up by a couple points, then down by a couple points.

Right now, Donald Trump has a 51% chance of winning the presidency.

In second place is Joe Biden at 42%.

So a nine-point difference.

That's about as wide as I've seen it.

And I think a lot of that goes back to the positive outcomes that have come or positive perceptions of how this case has gone in New York for Alvin Bragg, where it seems like kind of a catastrophe in the making.

So we have that looking good for Donald Trump.

Do you want the rep while we're here, the Republican vice presidential odds?

Yeah, I do, but I just want to say, you know, you said, you know, this is how people really feel because they're putting their money down.

And I just want to say, not necessarily people, but just degenerate gamblers like you.

Yes, yeah, that's fair.

That is fair.

But those are the people who actually are saying what they believe, right?

Sure, sure.

Because they're usually high on crack as well.

Hey, that might be true.

Though they've done pretty well,

as we've noted in the past, as far as predictions go.

Yeah, they've done pretty well.

It's interesting, too, that

while you're right, of course, it is just mainly degenerate gamblers that would do things like this.

These people tend to care about the outcome of events.

And, you know, pundits on TV don't necessarily have that same motivation.

Many of them are playing to their base.

Many of them are

just saying the things they think they need to say to impress whoever they're going to be at a cocktail party next week.

So I don't know.

I find it at least representative of where we are at this point.

Well, honestly, it's red cell.

Do you remember that?

Do you remember when the Pentagon right after 9-11 did a red cell thing and they said, let's open this up to the market and allow people to bet,

you know, internally, not, you know, like a stock exchange, but internally, we pick people and allow them to bet money on what they think the next most likely terrorist attack is going to happen.

And it became very, very accurate, and then it got out that people were doing that, and everybody was like, I'm offended by that.

Well, okay, well, it was a great way to be able to figure out

what people thought would be coming next so we could prepare

against it.

It was actually very successful.

Yeah, it was.

And it does tell you something interesting.

I should point out, as you're accusing other people of being degenerate gamblers, I should point out that you have a $3,000 bet with me that Michelle Obama is going to be on the top of the ticket.

I don't remember it.

I do not remember that.

$3,000.

$3,000.

He cared it was two.

He kept up three.

Yeah, I don't remember it, Pat.

And Pat, America doesn't remember it.

I I remember it.

I wouldn't either if I made that bet.

I was so confident there for a while.

Yeah.

And I had him on the rocks, too.

Now, Glenn, I want to just give you this opportunity as I give you this

additional knowledge that on the prediction markets, Michelle Obama is in third place.

So, like, it's Donald Trump 51%, Joe Biden, 42%, Michelle Obama, 3%.

And I'm going to give you the opportunity.

She's in third place.

I'm going to give you the opportunity to back out of that bet right now.

Wow, really?

Yeah.

Wow.

Let me think about it.

No.

No.

I will give you the opportunity to up it to 4,000.

No, you know,

I don't want to bankrupt you in case it happens.

Thank you.

By the way, the other two people, RFK Jr., at 2% chance and Kamala Harris at 1%.

Isn't that amazing that

Big Mike has a better chance than RFK Jr.?

It is interesting.

It's interesting.

It is interesting.

Isn't it?

Okay, so Republican.

So what you're saying, Pat, is.

I got a chance.

Yeah, you got a chance.

There's a chance.

There's a chance.

Still, your chance is still hanging around.

Okay, so Republican VP nominee Oz.

Republican nominee VP Oz.

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Tim Scott, number one,

18% chance.

Number two, J.D.

Vance, 12%.

Marco Rubio, 10% in third place.

I think the main thing.

Big Mike place it all.

I can't see.

Big Mike is not.

Yes, here he is.

Big Mike.

Mike Pence, less than 1%.

Oh, no.

I'm sorry.

Mike, we were talking about.

You're right.

Mike Pompeo, 1% as well.

The one like, Brock knows

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Oh, this is making my eyes bleed, but it's worth it.

I'm sorry we're taking you seriously, Stu.

No, that's fine with me.

I just don't know if you want me to go on, so I'm just going to.

Yes, please do.

Okay, okay.

What is it that you don't find hysterical about this?

It's very funny.

Michelle Obama might be a transsexual.

Is that what you find?

No, I mean, I literally made a how's it hanging joke in the middle of all of that.

So I just, yeah, I just wasn't.

And we were at LA.

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I know we do do have commercials coming up, so I was just wondering:

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Do you want me to say more?

I'm fine with whatever option.

We can go any direction you'd like.

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So Tim Scott, 18%.

J.D.

Vance, 12%.

Marco Rubio, 10%.

Those are the odds to be the vice presidential nominee.

I think what you learn from that is no one has any freaking idea.

I think that is the fact that the leader is at 18% of a chance here as we're going into the debate is what, five weeks away?

You can pretty much say that no one has any idea.

At least Stefanic, 6%.

You can go down the list and I can give you anybody you might want.

Where was Bergham?

I think we were.

Douglas Bergham?

Yeah.

You're talking about Bergamentum, right?

Yep.

You know what?

For some reason.

Is he not in that?

Because he was the lead candidate.

He's the leader as far as you're right.

He's not listed on this.

It might just be so obscure that no one's betting on him.

But I mean, there's a bunch of people that no one knows on this, so I can see if they've added him soon.

Actually, this is kind of, I guess, where he falls in.

They make these markets and they put all the names they can possibly think of.

It's quite possible they just didn't think Doug Bergum was an option when the market was made.

Yeah, maybe.

Other Man, and again, that could fit your friend here, Mig Mike.

Other Man is at 24% leading the entire thing.

How would you like to be

able to as other man?

Yeah.

That's bergamentum in action right there.

Now, are his eyebrows on the list?

They are.

They are down at 1%.

No eyebrows, but I guess that would fall into potentially other man.

I'm not sure.

Other woman is at 7%, by the way.

So if you're thinking about field bets here, even you're a degenerate gambler like Glenn, you're talking about 31% of people just being like, I don't know, somebody else.

That's a bit.

Well, with Donald Trump, I mean, he is such a showman.

You never know.

He likes the drama.

I mean, he's really doing the apprentice all the time.

Yeah, it really is.

And this is going to come down to the last minute, but you got to believe he's probably

doing this first debate without even knowing for sure who is vice presidential candidate.

Did you hear what he said about drug tests?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

Good.

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One more, one more layer down in the elevator.

Going down.

Conspiracy floor number seven.

He said

he wants Joe Biden to do a drug test because he said during the State of the Union, he was high as a kite.

And you know what?

I think there's a chance of that.

I really do.

Yeah.

He was on something.

He's on his regular medication.

He had to be.

He had to be because

he can't speak for an hour like that.

I mean, he wasn't flawless, but he was better than normal.

No, I honestly think, and, you know, look, they've done this.

I mean, Jack Kennedy, they did this all the time.

I just think they have him jacked up.

Is it just you're saying something as simple as what, like caffeine, or you're going to some

injectable serum from outer space?

I could go anywhere in that range.

Outer space serum.

No, no,

that's ridiculous.

We know what planet it's from.

No, I think it's, you know,

I don't know, but some sort of prescription that his doctor could give him for

methamphetamines or something that juices him.

Yeah, it does seem like there's something significant going on

inside the veins of the president.

He also, because I think he can only run for a few hours without being replugged in, and you'd have to check with Disney on how long those robots can run.

Right.

And you know, if you keep recharging a battery like that over and over and over again, it starts to, does not last nearly as long by the end.

It's like your iPhone, you know.

So

one other thing that I think is interesting here, Glenn,

as far as how the electorate is changing and how potential political realignment, largely fueled by Donald Trump, is changing the entire way we look at these elections.

If you think about the Republican Party, going back, you know, as long as we can remember, there's this sort of like idea that they're for the fat cats, right?

They're the rich people.

They're the people who are,

you know, they own the businesses.

They're corporate fat cats.

You know, that typical thing.

The working class, that's Democrats, right?

The working class voters.

And so this has been pretty consistent over every presidential election we've had since at least, you know, going back almost 50 years, where if you think about this, Republicans and you divide them up by voters by income,

they typically get a much higher percentage of high-income voters than low-income voters, right?

That's kind of known about the Republican Party.

It's the stereotype.

So, like, go back to 1976, they got 62% of high-income voters and 38% of low-income voters, okay?

So, plus 24, 24-point margin.

If you go through every election from 1976 to 2012, they are right around that area, somewhere between plus 16 to plus 30.

Okay, higher percentage of high-income voters than low-income voters.

So in 2012, they're plus 19.

2016, that's Trump's first election running, it goes to plus seven.

So major change.

Again, you know, 40 years of elections, they are plus 19 or more in this measure.

2016, they dropped to plus seven.

2020, it drops to plus four.

And so far, the polls are showing in 2024, minus six.

Wow.

Meaning Democrats are now performing better among high-income voters and Republicans

are doing better among low-income voters.

Now, of course, Republicans have tried throughout this entire time to take this advantage away from Democrats and say, hey,

we're just as good with working-class voters.

What are you talking about?

You should be coming to our side.

Of course, you try to do that.

It seems to be coming, though, at the expense of high-income voters.

And while, you know, trading one-for-one voter in theory is not a big deal, right?

It doesn't matter.

The problem is, of course, low-income voters are less reliable voters.

They don't vote as often, even in presidential cycles.

That's why we have to start saying they're going to come and enslave you again, you know, because that's always so great.

I mean, honestly, that's why the Democrats have done that for so long.

Yeah.

And, of course, we're seeing gains with Trump among Hispanic voters, among black voters, among young voters, and among lower-income voters.

These are all areas that have been almost impenetrable for Republicans for 50 years.

So, a lot of really good things there.

But you also are losing some of those high-income voters that Republicans have built their foundation on.

And it's going to be fascinating to see if, number one, it works, right?

I mean, it worked in 2016, didn't work in 2020.

Obviously, you can talk about those elections.

Everyone thinks all both sides think one of those two elections are stolen.

So, I don't know what you think about that, but it is fascinating to see the change.

And then in 2024,

I think 2020 was real COVID.

Yeah, well, I mean, there's 2020 was such a weird election, right?

I mean, because of that.

But in 2024, like, you'll see if this approach works for Donald Trump, number one.

And number two, going in the future, 2028, 2032, 2036, is there anyone else who can replicate this Trump profile and do anything with it?

Because so far, it's been Donald Trump and kind of only Donald Trump that's been able to succeed with this profile.

So that's kind of an interesting future we have mapped out here.

It's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out, Glenn.

I'll say that.

Yes, it is.

I'll say that.

Yes, it is, especially with Big Mike as president.

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You know, I spoke of

never Bideners,

but it's not really never Bideners.

It's people who voted for Biden who are like, never, ever again.

And that number is quite amazing.

Among likely voters living in six key swing states, 51% say there's not any chance they'd vote for Biden compared to 46% saying the same thing about President Donald Trump.

And yet everybody in the media just says, oh, Joe Biden, he's the best.

He's the best.

Lower approval numbers than Donald Trump ever had.

And also

a bigger crowd of people saying, I voted for him.

I'd never do it again.

And that's different than a never-Trumper.

Yeah, because, I mean, a never-Trumper, you'd probably say, is someone who,

I mean, that was usually to describe a Republican, right?

Who was just not a fan of Donald Trump and was like, I'm not going to go that way.

This category seems to be, I mean, 51%, to be clear, is, first of all, all the Republicans that just have no interest in voting for Joe Biden.

But then also a bunch of people who did vote for Joe Biden and will no longer consider him.

So, I mean, never Biden is sort of a weird description of someone who did vote for Joe Biden.

It should be never again Biden.

Never again Biden.

Right.

And I think those people are definitely increasing.

Yeah.

With good reason.

Yeah.

Really, really good reason.

He's been very, he's been a bad president.

I don't know if you guys have noticed this.

I've been watching him try to do his job.

He's not very good at it at all.

What?

Yeah.

Like, I keep coming back to this.

I've been talking to people lately.

I keep coming back to this.

I'm like, have you guys noticed that, like, he's not very, he does, the chosen profession he's gone into, he's not good at it.

I don't think he knows how to do the job very well.

That's really weird.

People don't know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, but what about the economy?

Yeah, I know.

That's one of the things I bring up.

It sucks.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

So a new New York Times Sienna College survey released

today:

Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania found that 14%

of those who say they backed Biden in 2020 won't do it again.

Wow.

That's pretty significant.

That's huge.

I mean, obviously, if that holds, there's no way he can win the election.

Oh, yeah, there are.

Well, yes.

Well,

to get enough dead voters voting.

That's always a possibility.

But, I mean, as far as legitimate victory, it is

impossible.

Yeah, it is.

It's also impossible.

It's a lot of spread have to be to feel legitimate.

I don't think there is anything.

I don't think there's no.

There's always going to be complaints about stolen elections till the end of time.

I think that's where we are.

I don't think any of that changes.

I mean, we've seen it.

Every election in my adult life that has been won by a Republican has been there have been accusations by the Democrats that it's been stolen.

Every time.

It's happened every single time.

And, you know, Republicans are obviously quite on this bandwagon right now as well.

And there's just nobody that seems to believe that we have a legitimate segment.

I'd say the twice that it's happened since 2000, every time, well, it's been three times, right, since 2000 that Republicans have won.

And in every case, they've said the election was stolen.

Yeah.

In 2000, it was selected, not elected.

It was stolen in 2000.

It's good enough.

Yeah.

It's.

we are just not good.

We don't do the things that are legal to help us vote.

It's true.

Let alone the things that are illegal.

You know,

the real problem here is, I think, these

situations that we're seeing, like in, for instance, in Washington, D.C.,

where they are actively training people who are illegals to vote.

Wow.

It's not supposed to happen.

I've been telling people this.

I keep saying, hey, you guys, you're illegal immigrants.

You're not supposed to be voting.

And people say, what?

They don't understand.

It is

their tactics are as extreme as possible.

And this comes back to what you were just talking about, Glenn.

I mean, obviously the focus on Biden.

51% of people in these swing states saying, well, I will never vote for Biden.

I mean, what's lost there is the 46% are saying they never vote for Trump.

I mean, this is so, we are so, the polarized thing has been so talked about, but it's completely true.

I mean, you look back at these elections, we used to talk about blowout elections like Ronald Reagan in 1984, right?

Never have he wins by, he wins 59 to 41, an 18-point margin in the popular vote in 1984.

Wow.

Those days are gone.

Think about the McCain-Obama election, which we all consider kind of a blowout, right?

That was

5346.

Seven points.

A seven-point margin was an absolute blowout.

We haven't seen, you know, you go back 2012 was four points.

2016 was two points.

Again, the Democrats won, of course, in 2016 on the popular vote.

And in 2020, it was four points.

That's what you're looking at, right?

Like you're looking at two and four point elections right now.

And

we can all talk, it feels different than that, right?

Like it feels, I feel like, you look at the way Biden's performance has been, and if you just judge it solely on

that factor, I don't think there's any hope that a president could possibly run under the conditions Joe Biden is running on and win outside of something that's crazy.

So there's two things, and help me out, Stu, you'll remember this.

I think Donald Trump was the first

candidate to win all of the bellwether elections.

and lose the election, right?

I remember that being talked about.

I don't know that stat off the top of my my head, though.

I'd have to plead against that.

I think it was something like that.

I can't remember for sure.

But

this time,

if Biden wins, he'll be the first guy to have the polling numbers that he has

and

the

country headed in the wrong direction numbers that he has.

I mean,

it will be a remarkable

overthrow of everything that we know if he wins.

Yeah, I just don't.

I think if it were held today, I don't think he'd have much of a chance at all of winning this election.

Now, of course, with six months to go, who knows what we're going to do?

We'd be talking about the invasion of aliens by then, and that might be the big story we're all on.

Tell me about this.

Where was that story today?

The

yeah, Biden 2.0 promises tax hikes and more illegal

immigration.

So he's talking about higher taxes.

He just signed in,

where is this story?

Like $2 trillion, no, an additional $1 trillion

in

regulations.

And you'll feel them.

$1.2 trillion

of new regulations that he is just putting in in the next couple of months.

And you'll feel them by the election.

That's not.

And

if he wins and the Trump tax cuts sunset, which will happen next year,

if Biden wins, that's a tax increase for every

American.

That is a taxes, your taxes will go up 20%.

We have now, what was the number Friday we talked about, Stu?

It was like

47%

or something like that of small businesses cannot fully make their rental payment.

How are you going to pay an additional 20%?

That will destroy the small business.

It's true.

And of course, this is why he's doing so badly.

You know, his approval rate right now is 38.1%.

It's the lowest in 60 years, right?

I mean, I'll give you where we are.

Donald Trump, again, who wound up losing in 2020, at this point in his presidency, was at 42.5%.

Wow.

Biden at 38.7%.

Remember how bad they said that was?

Yeah.

They were like, that's the worst ever.

You can't have a president.

Everybody hates his guts.

Yeah.

Barack Obama, who obviously did win in 2012, he was at 49% approval at this point in his presidency.

He's got muscle behind him, a big mic.

Yeah, exactly.

George W.

Bush,

who also won, was at 46% approval rating, and Joe Biden, again, at 38%.

Bill Clinton, who won, was at 53%, right?

That's a winning profile,

38.1% for Bill Clinton.

George H.W.

Bush, who lost, right?

He was at 40%

higher than Joe Biden is right now at 38.6.

Ronald Reagan, obviously.

That one going into it,

you just knew he was going to lose.

Right.

It didn't even seem close.

No.

I mean, it didn't even seem close.

Ronald Reagan, 54%, obviously much higher than Joe Biden.

Jimmy Carter, who obviously lost, was at 40.7%, higher than Joe Biden.

Richard Nixon, who won, was at 55%.

Of course, that was another blowout election where Nixon won.

LBJ decided not to run, right, famously.

38.1% for Biden, 45.1% for Lyndon Johnson.

Wow.

Oh, man.

Not even close.

And he pulled out because he knew he wasn't going to win.

And the only one that's actually close, oddly, is Harry Truman.

Harry Truman was at 38, really at the low of his presidency, 38.9%.

And Biden's still at 38.6%.

Why did Harry Truman, why do people hate Harry Truman so much?

I thought he was a good president.

I don't know.

I mean, it was a tough time.

Yeah, it was a really tough time.

He made the toughest decision, and maybe I can't imagine it was this.

He ended, you know, he was responsible for VJ Day because he dropped the bomb.

And I don't think it was all that controversial at the time.

It ended the war.

And he

saved millions of lives on both sides.

Millions of lives.

He's also the guy who established the state of Israel against the State Department's wishes.

I mean, I don't know what he did that was so horrible other than,

I think, when was the re-election, 1950?

Do you remember?

Let's see, it was 40, yeah, 45 to 53.

He was president.

Okay.

So in 53, the

Republicans, and I think they should use this again, the Republicans'

winning slogan was, have you had enough yet?

And it was running on the depression, the war, and the continuation of the Malays.

I think, too, you hit on something earlier with Trump, Glenn, in 2020, where I think there's part of the election in 2020 just goes to the point that the country was really miserable at that point.

I mean, it's a very unique circumstance.

COVID obviously standing out most, but don't forget that the George Floyd thing was there, too.

There was a lot going on,

spikes in crime, people's businesses falling apart.

It's hard for anyone who's president of the United States in that circumstance to win.

What's been fascinating about Biden is he's basically taken that malaise and just continued it.

Yeah, and now the left is coming after him about Israel, and he is absolutely catering to him.

The stuff that he said this weekend, absolutely unbelievable.

And,

you know, you know that they have more plans to take to the streets this, and I think people are done with that.

I think they're done with their cars being surrounded in traffic.

I think they're done with all of these Marxist leftist radicals.

You know, it's no longer the Me Too movement, which was bad enough,

but at least that had some,

you know, some benefit to it.

It was like, okay, yeah, let's get these dirtbags out.

But it went too far, I think.

But still,

it had some good.

This,

after the George Floyd riots and the looting and everything else, and now into the Palestinian thing where the American people disagree with the protesters, I don't think it's going to go well.

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I don't know what it is about Missouri, but they have had two unbelievable attorney generals

back to back.

One of them just went to Washington to become a great senator, and the other one is

investigating a couple of things.

One about Donald Trump and this conspiracy to prosecute, and also

the attacks on the Kansas City kicker that we were talking about last week.

We have the Attorney General from Missouri, Andrew Bailey, on with us in 60 seconds first.

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We have the Missouri Attorney General.

He is demanding a couple of things.

First of all, that the Department of Justice turn over the documents related to several of President Trump's prosecutions, as the prosecutions appeared to be part of a coordinated effort by the DOJ that involved the White House.

Andrew Bailey,

the Attorney General, is with us now.

Andrew, how are you, sir?

Doing well, thank you.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

Thank you.

You are one of the really good AGs in the country.

And I have to tell you, it is the first of the last of the line are the AGs.

And if you guys go dark, it's up to the sheriffs.

And I'd like to not get to the sheriff part.

So thank you for everything you're doing.

Tell me about what you're looking for from the Department of Justice, why you're looking for it, and what the response has been so far.

Well, and Glenn, I appreciate you covering this story extensively.

Everyone can see the illicit witch hunt prosecutions that are going on from Alvin Bragg's office, from Fonnie Williams' office, from Letitia James' office, and from Biden's crooked Department of Justice.

And we know already, do we not know for a fact that there are ties directly to the White House, that

they're coordinating.

Yeah, they are absolutely coordinating.

The Biden Department of Justice has become the nerve center for a coordinated

witch hunt prosecution of a political opponent.

And it's not designed to obtain a legally valid conviction.

It's designed to take anyone running against Joe Biden, in other words, President Donald Trump, off the campaign trail.

How do we know this?

Because they've deployed resources in the fight at the state level.

That's illicit collusion.

And I'm talking about Matthew Colangelo.

This was the number three ranking official at Biden's crooked Department of Justice, a longtime DNC activist with deep ties to the Democratic Party, who has now taken a job with Alvin Bragg's office and is leading the prosecution in the courtroom in Manhattan at the state level against President Donald Trump.

That is sufficient evidence to disqualify these prosecutors.

And we demand records.

We need to have transparency.

I think they have enormous liability on their professional licensure, civil liability, and

potentially criminal liability.

I mean, at some point, we need to talk about prosecuting the prosecutors.

Thank you.

So

may I just call you, Andrew?

I'm sorry.

Okay, so, Andrew,

how

unusual is it for that kind of a

transfer of job?

I mean, does that happen?

Is this just our speculation?

Well, in isolation, it wouldn't be a problem in and of itself.

The problem comes from the illicit motivations that can be imputed to these prosecutors.

So let's talk about Alvin Bragg for a second, which, by the way, I love that his website and his motto for his office is one standard of justice for all.

I mean, how does this guy keep a straight face while saying that?

But this is an individual who worked for Letitia James, who campaigned on a promise to prosecute Donald Trump, who has been involved in civil litigation against Donald Trump when he worked at the New York Attorney General's office.

There is no way a court in Missouri would allow him to prosecute that criminal case, even if there was a criminal case, which I don't concede that there is.

It's not supported by the facts or the law.

And you've covered that extensively.

We've talked about that at Nauseum.

But the illicit motivation of the prosecutors is self-evident by the previous behavior and statements that Alvin Bragg has made.

Same with Matthew Colangelo.

I mean, the DOJ cases against President Donald Trump are also equally specious in nature.

In other words, not supported by the facts of the law.

So Joe Biden keeps documents in his garage where anybody can get to him.

And, oh, he's too old to know what he's doing.

So let's let him off the hook, despite the fact that somehow he's the chief executive of the United States of America.

But we're going to go after.

President Donald Trump, who had the authority to declassify the very documents he was in possession of that were in a safe.

So again, you've got Matthew Colangelo leading all of that and now going to help Alvin Bragg.

That is an appearance of impropriety at a minimum.

And I believe there's actual impropriety, substantive impropriety.

The political motivation of the prosecutors is sufficient to call into question their judgment in these cases.

Couple that with the fact that they brought baseless charges not supported by the facts of the law, and it will undermine the credibility of whatever illegal conviction they ultimately obtained.

So tell me what cases you're looking at.

You're looking at Alvin Bragg, and you're looking at,

shoot, what was the other one you said?

Letitia James, Bonnie Williams.

Yes.

All of them.

All of them.

Yeah, there's a documented history of this, too.

This isn't just some conspiracy theory.

I mean, your listeners will recall in 2016 how the DOJ Deep State conspired to perpetrate the Russian collusion hoax against President Trump, to undermine his presidency before he took office.

And think about those text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok.

You're telling me that isn't going on between Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, Matthew Colangelo, Fonnie Willie.

I mean, the whole crew.

And so we know this evidence is out there and it needs to be transparent to the public.

So is there a statutory limitations on any of these?

You know, it depends on what facts are uncovered, but

I don't think we're in any risk of losing the ability to hold the wrongdoers accountable.

And again, that can take many different forms.

First and foremost, we need to expose this so the public understands what's going on here.

It was never about an actual criminal case against President Trump.

It was always about getting him off the campaign trail.

Now, once that is established, which again, circumstantial evidence gives rise to the reasonable inference today, but when we're in possession of the documents that we believe will reveal an actual substantive impropriety, then we start talking about censure against professional licensure.

We start talking about President Trump having a civil suit for violation of his civil rights.

And if crimes were committed, then absolutely criminal prosecution should be on the table.

For far too long, conservatives have allowed this lawfare to go on, and it has gotten worse and worse and worse to where now Missourians are being denied access to their chosen political candidate, their chosen presidential candidate, President Donald Trump.

So, you know, law fare is the wave of the future.

I mean, if President Trump wins,

they're going to make what happened on January 6th, I think, look like

a walk in the park.

And they're lawyering up like crazy.

Lawfare is the future.

How do we turn that around?

Well, it's tough because, as conservatives, we believe in the rule of law.

We believe that the text history and tradition of the Constitution still mean something, and that we elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes.

And so, the only way to serve those rule of law principles, but also fight back against lawfare, is to hold those perpetrating lawfare accountable.

And that's what I seek to do in this instance.

Now,

how likely are we to get these

documents?

Well, I'm not going to be stonewalled by Biden's crooked Department of Justice.

They may play those games in the courts in the state of New York, which, by the way,

shame on the judiciary and the state of New York for not disqualifying these prosecutors and from allowing these appearances of impropriety to perpetrate, even from the bench, in this illicit witch hunt prosecution.

But at the end of the day, this would never stand in Missouri.

We're not going to be stonewalled by the Department of Justice.

They have a responsibility for transparency, especially given the heightened sensitivity around a presidential election.

And so these are serious allegations.

They need to live up to their obligations under the Freedom of Information Act, and we're going to shine the light of truth on this as soon as practical.

And when we had the document case, when they turned over the documents, We found collusion, did we not?

That's absolutely true.

Again, this is a documented pattern of behavior that extends far beyond the current presidential election cycle.

It goes all the way back to 2016.

Unbelievable.

Can I let me switch subjects?

The Kansas City Chiefs, which, full disclosure, my family and I, we root for the Kansas City Chiefs all the time.

And,

you know, we love the Hunt family and everything else.

What happened there

is

such an attack on, honestly, freedom of expression for your religion.

He's speaking, I mean, the left always says, keep it in the, you can keep it in your house of worship.

Well, that was a religious university, and he got a standing ovation.

Nobody seemed to really be

offended by it, and they have gone after him and doxed him.

What are you doing?

Well, look, we're not going to let city officials in Kansas City who doxed Harrison Bucker in retaliation for his free expression of his faith, of his religious beliefs, we're not going to let them violate the Missouri Human Rights Act that exists in order to prohibit that kind of discriminatory behavior.

And you're right.

I mean, if anybody has watched the commencement address itself, I would commit it for everybody to view.

It's a fabulous speech.

And you know what he says at the beginning?

You know what Harrison Bucker says?

He says,

the left wants to drive free expression of Christian beliefs from public discourse.

And that's exactly what's happening.

And that's what the the left is doing to Harrison Butcher.

Now, the problem from a state law perspective is when the city of Kansas City, using an official Twitter account, publishes Harrison Butcher's residents.

Why did they do that?

In retaliation.

The government can't retaliate against someone for the free expression of their faith.

And that's what's going on here.

And suddenly, I'm the bad guy.

Quinton Lucas, the mayor of Kansas City, within the last 72 hours, has fired off an incendiary letter to me accusing me of fanning the flames of racial discord.

Like, what?

Wow.

You know, you're doing the right thing when the left baselessly plays the race card.

So somehow, my enforcement of the statute intended to prevent discrimination is discriminatory to the mayor of Kansas City.

Makes zero sense.

That's when you know you're doing the right thing.

We're going to fight for all Christians or any faith community's ability to have free expression of their religious belief protected by the Constitution and the laws of the state of Missouri.

And what are you going for on that, Andrew?

We've demanded accountability and transparency in there, too.

We've demanded documents about who manages the social media account, who has access to it, why this post was tweeted out when it was.

We need to make sure that there's guardrails in place to ensure that, again, the government resources aren't being weaponized to push a radical, progressive, discriminatory agenda in violation of state law.

And if we have to, we'll go to court and get an injunction to put a stop to it.

Andrew Bailey, the Attorney General of Missouri.

Always good to talk to you, Andrew.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate you having me on.

You bet.

If you didn't hear Bill Maher's Maher's comments on

the

Kansas City Chiefs kickers comments, listen to what he said.

Here's cut two.

I couldn't be more not like this guy.

He's in big trouble because he said at this event, and this is a Catholic college, conservative Catholics, and he's now history's greatest monster.

Again, I don't agree with much with this guy, but I don't get the thing.

He said, some of you, talking to this, the women here, some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world.

Okay, that seems fairly like modern.

But I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.

I don't see what the big crime is.

I really don't.

And I think this is part of the problem people have with the left, is that lots of people in this country are like this.

Like he's saying, some of you may go on to lead successful careers, but a lot of you are excited about this other way that people, everybody used to be.

And now can't it can't that just be a choice too and I feel like they feel very put upon like there's only one way to be a good person and that's to get an advanced degree from one of those

factories like Harvard

I find it very very ironic that he's he's saying you know what yeah in my world you know we like the women to stay at home and just have babies and the college kids and the young people find this absolutely abhorrent but they're demonstrating for Hamas

who make that a law.

It's not just an opinion in Hamas that you stay home and have the babies.

We will enforce you for doing that.

Okay, I just wanted to make that point.

I have to tell you, I think Bill Maher has become, and I don't agree with him on a lot of stuff, he is becoming my favorite liberal because he's an actual classic liberal once again.

He's somebody who is just saying, freedom of speech, man.

Say what you want, don't force everybody else.

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First of all, let's go to cut four.

Here's Joe Biden over the weekend talking to black graduates in Georgia.

What is democracy?

If black men are being killed in the street,

what is democracy?

Betrayal of broken promises still leave black communities behind.

What is democracy?

You have to be 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.

And most of all,

what does it mean, as we've heard before,

to be a black man who loves his country,

even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure?

You

listen to that applause.

Listen to that applause.

It is, he is.

Oh my gosh, this is so damaging damaging and so bad and such a lie.

Here's cut five.

Folks,

I never imagined in the 2024 there'd be folks waiting to ban books in America.

What in God's name is that about?

Not only that, they're trying to erase black history.

Oh, my gosh.

They're wrong.

They don't understand.

Black history is American history.

You're damn right, Joe Biden.

And so why did they ban blacks in the 1920s?

Why did they take books that we have in our library about the black American patriots, book after book after book, and the progressives banned them and destroyed them?

Why is it Woodrow Wilson wrote a five

book

history of America with literally no mentions of any black heroes?

And when he does mention blacks, he puts a picture of a monkey in a hat.

Tell me why.

Tell me who did it, Mr.

Progressive.

Oh my gosh.

By the way, during the NAACP Freedom Fund dinner in Detroit where he said that,

He actually claimed that he has been a lifetime member.

He joined at 15, the NAACP.

So in the 1960s, he joined the NAACP?

Really?

Because I think you have to be 18 or 20.

Don't you, Stu, to join back then?

Pat said off the air 21.

I don't know their qualifications, though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

I can see young Joe Biden there with corn pop going, you know what?

That meeting sounds good.

I'm going to go join too.

What a piece of garbage this guy is.

Oh, by the way, try cut six real quick.

Here he is again.

I was vice president.

Things were kind of bad during the pandemic.

And what happened was, Barack said to me, Go to Detroit and help fix it.

Well, poor mayor, he spent more time with me than he ever thought he's going to have to.

You weren't vice president under Donald Trump during the pandemic, you old coot.

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You want to fix the country.

We must abolish the Federal Reserve right now.

And Representative Thomas Massey is on the phone with me now.

Hi, Thomas.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn.

Thanks for covering this topic.

It really needs to happen.

We're done nibbling around the edges.

I've introduced a bill to audit the Fed for a decade, but we're past that.

We've got to end it.

Yeah.

So explain to people

what the Fed

is and what it has been doing lately.

It's our central bank and it has nothing to do with the federal government.

It is a private corporation, correct?

Yeah, let me just explain what's happened under Jerome Powell.

And I hate to pick on him, but he's the Fed chairman right now.

And under him, we've seen 25% of the value of the dollar disappear.

Meanwhile, during COVID,

the investment bankers and the Wall Street bankers had their best year ever in 2020.

And we had 7% inflation during COVID, thanks to the Fed.

They are

and then let me just tell you about Jerome Powell's background because it's indicative of the kind of people that work there.

He started out as an attorney and he got into investment banking.

And then he went to treasury.

And then he left Treasury and went back into banking.

And then investment banking.

And then

it was Barack Obama who put him on the Federal Board of Governors.

and then it was Trump who elevated him to chairman, and then it was Biden who renominated him.

This guy is the uniparty person who makes the investment bankers rich and everybody else poor in this country.

But it's also, people need to understand, the president can't just nominate anybody or appoint anybody.

The Federal Reserve, so all of the, what is it, seven or eight banks, the biggest banks, we are not even allowed to know who they they are, which is incredibly un-American and leads to all kinds of corruption.

They get together and they say to the president, here are a few names that we'll accept.

You pick from one of them.

Right?

And then when, right.

And then when that guy takes the job, who do you think he goes out to have dinner with every night?

I mean, there's this argument that we want our monetary policy to be independent of Congress or the executive branch, but it's a falsehood falsehood that it's independent right now.

It's not independent at all.

I mean, Jerome Powell lobbies Congress and the White House to engage in more fiscal stimulus.

So, and then they're working.

I mean, when the Treasury gets their debt monetized by the Fed, do you think that's an independent thing?

No, that's a carefully orchestrated dance.

And that's what they've done here recently.

There's three ways you can get money for the government to spend.

You can either tax the people and take the money back, or you can borrow the money, or you can just create it out of thin air.

And what they did during COVID is they created trillions of dollars out of thin air.

And this is, you know, Congress is to blame as well.

Congress spent those trillions of dollars, but it's it's the Fed that enables it and it's the Fed that pulls it off.

And it's also the Fed.

This is this is what kills me.

You know, they said that you know, in 2008, these banks were too big to fail and we have to stop that.

And everything Congress did made these banks stronger and bigger and hurt the small banks that are not part of the Federal Reserve system, so to speak.

They're not one of the owners of the Fed.

And it seems to me, Thomas, that every time

something is done, the American people are the ones that lose, and the banks get the money, they get richer, and in the end, it's going to be those, however, what is it, five or six or eight banks that make up the Fed.

Do you know?

I don't know that

we don't even know the number.

Okay, so whatever the number is,

those guys are going to be the ones that are currently holding our debt.

Now, as I understand it, whoever holds debt,

you have to pay that debt.

And I have had bankers tell me, Glenn, we don't have to worry about the debt.

You

Do you know just what our national parks are worth?

And so we will pay whatever it is they want.

We'll have to give that to the banks, which will mean it's a transfer of wealth from the people to these big banks.

It's just obscene.

And they have no intention of selling the national parks, by the way.

They are just going to take it out of our hides.

That's what they're going to do.

And listen,

to your first point there,

the Fed acts like they're the firefighters, but they are the arsonists.

Yes, they are.

They kept rates low.

They had easy money for banks to get

for so long that the banks, you know, they just assumed it was always going to be that way.

You had a few that failed.

They came in and they, well, they failed because the Fed then came in with whiplash and raised rates quicker than they've ever raised them them before.

And then the banks were kind of in this one model.

So then the Fed comes and does triage on them.

So the Fed starts out as the arsonist.

Then they come in and they do the firefighting by raising interest rates.

And then they go in and bail out the couple of banks last year.

So

they're causing the problems that they come in and allegedly solve.

But I think we're almost to a point now where they're running out of levers or the rubber bands that attach their levers to our macroeconomy are stretched as far as they'll stretch because right now they're not really in control of interest rates.

They might like to think they can lower the interest rate to stimulate the economy again.

But the problem is when they recently, when they put treasuries out for auction, the sovereign funds, the other countries that oftentimes buy our debt, said, you know what, at 4.5%,

I don't think that's a good bargain.

I'm not going to buy those i need a higher interest rate and would you

would you honestly if you had you're in charge of a bank or you were making loans as a private individual and you had somebody who came in and ran their life the way our congress runs our country

what kind of interest rate would you demand from them that you would think it's worth taking the risk for that

yeah

i mean it would be easy, easy in the double digits and most likely in the mid-double digits for me.

Yeah, and the other thing is then we try to inflate our debt down.

In other words, we devalue our currency.

So it changes the impact of, let's say, the nominal price of our debt in gold, if you could find some outside reference.

So the Fed kind of and the Treasury kind of likes inflation.

It kills the little guy.

The big guys don't care because, like we saw during COVID, they just reprice everything on Wall Street and then the other assets the Fed will prop up by buying them.

So they make sure that the rich people can survive through inflation, the poor people can't, or even the middle class can't, and because you don't have these sort of financial instruments that everybody else has that the Fed takes care of.

And so it's then the Fed is, when they cause inflation, they solve a little bit of the debt problem.

But the problem is we're getting to a point where it's not going to work anymore.

For a while, we had inflation that was greater than the interest rate we were paying on the debt.

So you can see, actually, if people will

take your debt at those low interest rates and inflation is that high, you should probably take on more debt.

I mean, I hate to say it, but they're wising up in the rest of the world.

Now, here's something else that happens: the U.S.

dollar is the reserve currency.

I mean,

we've mucked with it, but not so much that people don't want it yet.

Yet.

Yet.

And

when you want to, everybody likes to do their transactions in dollars.

But to do a transaction

in dollars, you have to hold dollars.

So the whole world is holding dollars.

And so when we devalue the dollar, we're not just taxing our own people.

We're taxing the entire world.

We're kind of like the credit card gets 3% of all the transactions at the gas station.

We get that 3% if we create 3% more money every year, which we typically do.

But the rest of the world is getting tired of being used that way.

They're tired of our transaction fees, i.e., our inflation.

And when they start using alternate forms of money to do their transactions or holding different

assets in their own sovereign wealth funds, then we're not going to be able to do that trick on anybody except for U.S.

citizens.

So, again, this is all coming to a head.

Thomas, I said this a while back,

probably 15 years ago, when this actually happens, we are going to be labeled because no politician in any other country is going to take responsibility for their own fiscal madness.

Everybody's going to blame it on the United States because we were greedy, grotesque, and took on so much debt that we devalued the dollar and it's going to affect the entire world.

And, you know, I relate it, and I know it's for different reasons in some way,

but I look at the way Germany looked at France

at the end of World War I and the beginning of World War II, is I think the way the rest of the world is going to look at us.

We

forced, we didn't, France forced Germany into just devastation where they had to inflate their dollar.

I mean, it was horrible.

The damage that we are going to do by destroying our dollar, I don't think we're going to be very popular in the world.

No, and then somebody says, okay, if you get, they've been asking me, what if you get rid of the Fed?

What do you replace it with?

That's like saying, if you take out a tumor, what do you replace the tumor with?

And then the serious answer is we go back to stable currency that the government can't manipulate.

I would prefer to have a gold standard, for instance.

Me too.

It's hard.

So I have been told,

this is what a serious, serious banker at the Fed level has said to me.

Glenn, the reason why we had to get rid of the gold standard is at first it was because we wanted the great society and the Vietnam War.

Couldn't afford it.

But there's not enough gold to build and live at the level the world lives right now.

We had to play funny money, and everybody is in on it.

We can't go to a gold standard because there's just not enough gold.

You buy that?

Well, there's enough gold to do

honest transactions, but you're right.

There's not enough gold to do the funny money and to fund all of these wars, for instance, that we've engaged in.

Typically, Typically, when the government tries to leave some kind of standard that they've been on, it's because they have to finance a war.

And nobody wants to consume enough of the debt to finance the war, so they go off the standard.

But yeah, you can't monetize your own debt once you get into that model.

You can't create the funny money.

It's real money.

It's hard money.

And that's what we should go back to.

And we shouldn't replace the Fed with anything.

It's Keynesian economics.

The whole premise, I know a lot of Republicans may disagree with me.

They may think that we need a Federal Reserve Bank and that we need to control inflation.

But that's the whole notion of Keynesian economics that

you could create prosperity by tweaking the interest rates and the money supply and that the free market doesn't have enough signals and feedback, doesn't react quickly enough that you could have some experts in an ivory tower that need to be turning knobs to make our lives better.

But the reality is the people in the ivory tower, they're investment bankers.

They came from investment banking.

They're going back to investment banking.

They still got ties to it, and they're tweaking the knobs to help their buddies and to keep this music going until the music stops, which is infinite spending.

You have introduced H.R.

24

as well, which is the Federal Reserve Transparency Act to audit the Federal Reserve and the

Act to abolish it.

You've got a lot of co-sponsors.

Any chance this even gets past our own House Speaker?

Well,

probably not this Speaker.

Look, we got not under this Speaker, but under previous Speakers, we have passed Audit the Fed in the House.

They've never brought it up in the Senate or not passed it in the Senate.

You've got people like Bernie Sanders, who sponsored Audit the Fed when he was in the House, and then he gets to the Senate and he won't even sponsor it.

But we've got to end it.

So we've got enough co-sponsors and enough votes to pass audit the Fed.

It hasn't happened this Congress.

It should happen this Congress.

But

by the way, if it were really part of the government, you could do a FOIA on it, right?

Try FOIAing the Federal Reserve.

It's going to work for you.

So,

yeah.

Quickly, how can people help?

Okay, the HR number is 8421 for ending the Federal Reserve.

We have 22 co-sponsors right now.

We need more co-sponsors.

Ask your congressman to co-sponsor in the Fed HR 8421.

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oh my gosh it's got to be the longest days of his life he is being cross-examined remember he's the key witness in this Donald Trump uh uh trial with stormy daniels yeah he's really, without Cohen, there isn't even a case to be brought.

You have to believe Cohen because much of the evidence that you would need to make Donald Trump into the bad guy here is specifically based on things that Cohen has said or done and has sole knowledge of.

He's the only person saying it.

So you have to trust Cohen.

Yeah, it all went through him.

He's the guy who, if he's, if it, if, if he dropped dead hit by a bus, the whole thing would be gone.

And, you know, just to remind listeners,

the Michael Cohen situation is not a good one.

It was never a good one even when Trump was there.

I believe he won our least reliable human being on earth competition for five straight years.

He is not reliable and was not reliable back then, is not reliable now.

The media has just decided to try to rehabilitate him because they need him for this case.

So

Todd Blanche, the attorney for Trump, is questioning and going after Michael Cohen to try to make him look as credible as he actually is, which is not at all.

And he went to him and talked to him about a specific transaction with a company called Red Finch.

Red Finch was an IT kind of company that Michael Cohen was dealing with.

And what they were doing with this company at the time is somewhat embarrassing, I suppose.

They were trying to rig online polls in Trump's favor.

So if you remember at the time,

these polls would come out, who do you think should win the Republican nomination?

This is in the 2016 election.

And Trump would win overwhelmingly, even when he wasn't winning in the normal polls, he would win overwhelmingly on every online poll.

Right.

This is why we've always said online polls are ridiculous.

They're useless.

Everybody rigs it.

Everybody.

Yeah, although not.

To some degree, people will be like, I'm going to vote and, hey, vote on this, vote on this, vote a million times, whatever it is.

Right.

And this this is

apparently a professional effort to do that.

And they were going to pay, they were owed $50,000 for their efforts in this front.

Now, Cohen, apparently, and this all happened on the stand.

Cohen

was

supposed to pay $50,000 to this company, but ended up only paying them $20,000.

He still, however, asked for a $50,000 reimbursement from the Trump organization.

Blanche, the attorney, asks Cohen, hey, did you lie about this?

Cohen on the stand says yes, admits that yes, he did lie about this.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

So he just admitted, I just want to make sure everybody understands.

He just admitted to cheating a company out of 30 grand,

asking his own company or his own firm, Donald Trump's firm, to pay the $50,000 to him, which he was supposed to pay.

He only pays $20,000.

And what does he do with the other 30?

I mean, he pockets it.

It's interesting.

The reporting on it, it's a little hard to tell whether he actually said this or whether he just sort of agreed to it.

But he was, Blanche, the attorney, brought up the possibility of him having the money in either a duffel bag or a brown paper bag.

That's where I like to keep my money.

It's safe that way.

It's the Fonnie Willis banking system.

Yeah.

That's the way that works.

So

he goes to this and he says, okay, you had this duffel bag of cash.

Where was the cash?

He goes after him on this.

He then tries to really focus this because what you said is true.

Of course, if you are an employee of a company or you're working with a company and you charge someone $50,000 and then pocket $30,000, that's what we would all recognize as theft, right?

Embezzlement or theft.

Yeah, you're just stealing money from the company that gave you the $50,000.

Wait a minute.

I just want to make sure.

Stu,

Sarah,

you both understand that concept, right?

That's theft.

I'm not sure what he's saying, Sarah.

Can you...

Okay, go ahead.

So

the Trump attorney says, and tries to get this down and like get everyone to understand this, because in case case people don't understand, this is stealing.

He says, quote, you stole from the Trump organization, right?

He, by the way, was, Cohen was reimbursed for about $100,000 in these expenses because he was always getting double the expenses for taxes.

So about $100,000 and all.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Like, what do you mean he was getting double for taxes?

So he was getting, like, if he took $50,000 to do one of these shady dealings, like he did with Stormy Daniels.

All right.

He had to pay the taxes.

Yeah.

The Trump organization would pay him basically double so that Cohen wouldn't get stuck with the tax bill.

So Cohen would

pay the taxes as if it was income, and then he would still be left over with the same amount he paid to Stormy Daniels, or in this case, this IT organization.

So

the quote is, you stole from the Trump organization, right?

From the attorney.

Cohen admits, yes, sir.

He says, on the stand.

Now

even the New York Times writes this up this way.

This is another big ding to Cohen's credibility.

Ding?

Yes.

Jurors have heard that he has lied to Congress, tax authorities, and on the witness stand.

And now they are hearing that he stole from the Trump organization.

Now, I've had dings in my car.

Yes.

I would say this was a massive wreckage where the car would be totaled.

I'd argue they totaled the car on the this one.

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, I don't know how you could possibly believe this guy anyway.

You know, some of the stuff, like if there are text messages or other people supporting it, maybe you could say, all right, well, he's telling the story.

There are a few other pieces of evidence that agree with it.

And that has happened on some points during this case.

But generally speaking, they are relying almost solely on Michael Cohen to be the voice of credibility.

And now we know that not only has he lied to everyone else in his life, by the way, including his wife, we didn't even include that in the list, who he lied to when he took out all of this money on a second mortgage and tried to hide it from her by his own admission.

He's admitted to lying to all of these people.

Basically, you're supposed to believe that he has taken every moment of his entire life and filled it with lies with every person he's ever dealt with, except this one moment where he's sitting in front of you on the witness stand.

Okay, so hear me out on this theory.

O.J.

Simpson.

I think

this is a political version of what happened to O.J.

Simpson.

And I hope it doesn't turn that way, you know, in the end.

But if they find him guilty,

it will be exactly what happened with the O.J.

Simpson case, except this is political, not racial.

The jury hates

Donald Trump so much that no matter what the facts say, they'll deem him guilty.

Where O.J.

Simpson,

the jurors wanted a black man to beat the system, beat the man so badly that they admit it now.

They voted for

not guilty, even though they believed the facts led.

to guilty.

I hope that doesn't happen, but that's what this feels like to me because it's in New York, any other place, but in New York, can you get with this judge, can you get a trial that

with jurors, enough jurors to tell the truth?

And by the way, just like, do you remember, were you old enough to remember the O.J.

Simpson trial?

Oh, yeah.

I certainly do, yeah.

So O.J.

Simpson, if you remember right, there was speculation: can the trial,

can the jurors ever identify themselves if they find him guilty?

Because the black community was so for O.J.

Simpson.

And I would ask the same thing.

Can these jurors, all from New York City,

can they

live a normal life and not and live without danger if they release him

because certainly not going to get invited to many parties.

No, I'll tell you that.

No, I mean, what are all of the other factors that are coming into this?

Yeah.

This is tough.

Isn't there a moment here for you, Glenn, where you think a little bit about just the legal system and the fact that it's supposed to work and that we have a tradition of people judging these things honestly?

Isn't there at least a possibility that

of a hung jury, isn't there one or two people on this jury maybe that look at this and take this as a joke?

There only needs one.

Yeah.

Do you think?

And it is my hope that there is one that will hold out and say, no way.

No way.

I'm not changing my vote.

No.

I don't care about what you guys say.

No.

Hopefully, we can pray that there is one person.

I mean, assuming we're not in the jury room, but but what it looks like here,

this is an assault on our judicial system, just like I think O.J.

Simpson was an assault on the judicial system.

I understood that one a little more because the black man had been, you know, just raped in our judicial system for so long that I kind of,

it was still a travesty and awful, and I hated it, but you could see it.

This one is merely politics.

That's it.

Yeah.

Politics.

They see this as their last opportunity to win this election, in a way.

Yes.

Right.

And the other three trials aren't probably going to happen before the election.

Obviously, if Trump wins, he'll throw out two of them, right?

The federal stuff will all be thrown out.

This is a, this feels like their last chance, and they're looking at this as an opportunity.

And like, you know, coming into this case, Glenn, it was a weak case.

Everyone knew that.

The fact that it has gone so much more poorly than they even expected

has to rise to some level of

opportunity for this to be shot down, right?

I mean, it doesn't it, I

man, it's just it's if you have any faith in the legal system.

And look, people, criminals do go to jail in New York, right?

Like, this is not, it's not like every single time they're wrong.

I mean,

they, yeah, and I think that's true.

I'm pretty sure.

I mean, sure, Harvey Weinstein's out probably walking around.

Forget that.

Forget that example.

The plants of New York all over just like,

keep Harvey away from me.

I mean, they don't charge anybody in New York for crimes anymore unless your last name is Trump.

But I mean, over, you know, if you think about the average person in New York, again, remember, the Trump attorneys had a chance to throw out anyone they thought was

massively liberal and against Trump to an extent.

They did their best to find people they thought they would be treated fairly by.

I mean, if we are really at the point where they can't find anyone to judge this rationally, we are at a real crossroads as far as our legal system goes entirely, right?

I mean, this is not just a question about Donald Trump in this election.

It's far beyond that.

This is, Alan Dershowitz has said it, this is banana republic time.

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I want to talk a little bit about the Ayatollah.

What happened in

Iran this weekend?

The guy who is supposed to replace the Ayatollah Khomeini,

he is the main guy that has been behind all of the really oppressive stuff with women and everything else.

He was in a helicopter crash, gosh darn it, and

died.

Let's just take a moment to

honor him.

Okay, I think that's enough.

And

we don't know what happened yet.

I mean, there is rumor, and it's just strictly rumor, that he had information on the other unnamed grandchild of

Joe Biden from Hunter and Hillary.

But I don't put a lot of stock into

that one.

I think there's a possibility this was done by the IRGC because the Ayatollah Khomeini, who is getting old, his son is

the one that was supposed to follow him.

This guy was probably,

if you can say this, more popular because the Iranian people don't like a dynasty.

Gee, I wish we had that around here.

But we don't know yet, and we don't know what it's going to mean.

But it was a significant

event.

And I also have, just on a personal note, I just have to say how proud I am of my granddaughter.

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And they were all crying.

And they were hugging each other.

And they were all saying, you know, we played our best and we did the right thing, and we played fair,

and we were playing seventh graders, and we're in the fourth and fifth grade.

And it was just an amazing thing to watch, and I just wanted to congratulate Lorelei and her team, the bees, which I think should be called the Killer Bees next year.

I'm just saying, because this is the third year in a row they've been in

the championships.

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I can't wait.

I've been waiting for him to weigh in on what we should do with our border.

He's a little upset with most Americans because we're so racist and xenophobic.

We'll give you that in so much more next.

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We're really glad that you're here today.

I'm going to share something really special.

Have you,

I mean, I've heard people say this all over the country, no matter where they are.

I don't think we're that divided.

If

you stop listening to the media and all of the ivory tower people, if you just go across the country and you meet people, your view of America is entirely different.

I read a book

because I was forced to because one of the best writers on my staff, he wrote a book and wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

Last time, the last book he released, it was number one Christmas title, wasn't it?

It was.

Yeah, it made the number one Christmas title last year.

Nathan has a

degree in history.

Nathan Nippers, who I'm talking about, he's one of the main writers on my show.

He is really, really good and a nice guy, too.

But he has a history major.

He

also has been a Hollywood script writer, which I completely,

I try to forget that, honestly.

And I don't know how he survived because he's, you know, one of us.

But he's written a new book called American Inheritance.

And if I may, Nathan, may I just describe it just a little bit?

Sure.

It is the story of this guy,

California, right, lives in California, San Francisco area?

He does.

Yeah.

So he's living in San Francisco.

And,

you know,

he's a typical guy.

And, you know,

he has a San Francisco attitude about America.

But

at the very beginning, he can hook up with this hot girl who is.

you know, even more of a Marxist.

And, you know, he's like, I'll be a Marxist.

And uh, has a grandfather that he's never met, always heard bad things about, lives in Virginia.

He thinks Virginia, you know, is stars and bars, and you know, let's let's lynch everybody.

Uh, so has no interest in meeting this guy.

Um, he's a script writer, it sounds like Nathan's life, except for hooking up with a Marxist thing, uh,

and uh, uh, he's he's just at the bottom of his barrel, but he's very liberal.

He gets a phone or a letter from his grandfather's office.

He's very, very wealthy and says, there's a possible inheritance.

Come to my office this Tuesday

and

we'll discuss your possible inheritance.

He has no idea what it means or anything else.

He ends up going to meet with his grandfather, and his grandfather gives him a quest.

And

like I said, if you've ever traveled America, you get the real understanding of America.

So, Nathan, what is the request from the grandpa?

Yeah, it's a unique deal that his grandson, Tom, is really in no position to refuse.

He's got a mountain of student loan debt and doesn't really know what he's going to do with his life.

And

the opportunity is he could earn potentially a multi-million dollar inheritance if and only if

he will do this cross-country road trip.

And he has to follow an itinerary designed by the grandfather to

try to alter his grandson's very cynical view of America.

And so the grandfather kind of being into history and he's Tom's political polar opposite.

So he's very conservative.

believes in America, the American dream, loves history.

And so he sends him to various historical sites, some natural wonders, and has him meet with some friends of his that he knows will challenge Tom's

worldview, which is very left-wing, kind of the typical thing that we hear all the time

in daily headlines, right, of the left's view of America's past, present, and future, which is.

And what I like about him is he's I mean, you know, he'll date a Marxist and even go there, but he's he is definitely a not in love with America and definitely a leftist.

But

he's not an activist who just is insane and,

you know what I mean?

Right.

And it's kind of a spiritual journey, too,

because of someone that he meets along the way.

And because, you know, frankly,

he's searching like a lot of people his age.

He thinks socialism sort of fills this void and is maybe

quasi-religious to him.

Yeah, yeah.

But he knows,

he still doesn't have, you know, he's sort of agnostic, maybe atheist.

He doesn't really know what he believes.

And so he does have that one key, and I think this is one of the main messages of the book, at least I hope, is an allusion to Benjamin Franklin, something that he said during the Constitutional Convention, you know, this idea that

you got to have your mind cracked open, that you might be wrong about some things, right?

And so he does he he's at least tom is at least gifted with that that he has just enough of an open mind that uh even though he's very resistant to this trip the whole way through and everything it's open enough that he he may have it filled with something that uh he might not expect so this is one of those books and honestly nathan i couldn't put it down it's really good thanks um thank you when you're when i was reading it i thought this is so obvious how come i didn't think of it What gave you this idea?

Because

it is what people always say.

Yeah.

Well, a couple of things.

The initial idea, you know, it's like, as a writer, I mean, I'm thankful for this.

People who do sort of creative artist type things may understand this, but sometimes it just comes to you.

You're not sitting down trying to think of an idea, right?

And this one, I'm sure, was an outgrowth, obviously, of working here and the stuff that we deal with every day with headlines and kind of the worst news about America, right?

And trying to balance it with principles and what we believe in about the potential of America.

But it was, you know, it was also this

stuff that has been in the culture for the last few years of what is America, what's the story that America is going to tell about itself, right?

You know, the grandfather character at one point in the book tells his grandson that a nation cannot thrive on shame.

And I truly believe that.

You know, you can't continue to hammer this

America is irredeemably bad,

racist, and the whole nine yards, and survive.

You obviously, and you talk about this all the time, but

you can't ignore the bad stuff.

And boys, there are plenty.

I mean, there's some days I'm just ashamed of stuff that you learn that we've done in our past, that we're doing now.

It's awful, but it's not the whole story, right?

And so it's got to be balanced.

And so this was kind of

my way of addressing those things that were frustrating me.

And I think a lot of people, a lot of light-minded conservatives have that frustration of what are we witnessing here?

You know, sometimes it feels like you have a front row seat to sort of the end of the republic.

And that's not the case.

It's not inevitable that that's the way it goes.

Right.

And so this is sort of my pushback against that culture.

How did you get?

into the I mean, for the, I mean, I'm reading the first chapter and I'm like, Nathan,

this audience is not going to like this because it's right

in the mind of the leftist.

Yeah.

And

at first, you have no idea where it's going.

At least, you know, I didn't.

How did you capture that so

accurately?

Well, I mean, honestly,

it's probably mostly the graduate school of working here.

And we're, you know, we get so much of this stuff all the time

that it just, you just understand it, you know, and it's, you understand the mindset, you understand what their goals are.

And, you know, several years ago, Jonathan Hyde, I think, wrote about this, the fact that there's some academic research bearing out the fact that conservatives generally understand the positions of the left much better than the left understands the positions of the right.

So

I wouldn't say that I knew all this stuff eight years ago that I understood the leftist mindset as well.

But goodness, we get so much of it here that it just, after a while, it's kind of second nature.

Well, I have to tell you, I found it refreshing and inspirational in ways.

And I don't know who you're targeting.

Are you hoping that this will be passed on to

people who maybe don't have a completely closed mind, but

maybe haven't gone to college yet and have it completely wiped clean?

I mean, ultimately, yes.

I would love it to go to people who have that mind cracked open, right?

That they might not feel like they have all the answers.

It's partially inspired.

I dedicated the book to my sons.

I have two teenage sons.

It's not a book for teenagers.

I would say more high school graduates, college graduates, on up, adults of all ages.

But that was kind of the mindset, you know, that something that I could pass on and hopefully...

help young people on either side, really, if they're willing to pick it up, to be able to understand understand what's going on in our politics what drives each side and help them think for themselves yeah it's called american inheritance the author is nathan nipper who never

i mean it bothers me

and nathan i think you know this i've said it several times it bothers me that we don't run credits at the end of all of my programs because i i work with the best people.

They're good, solid people.

They're God-fearing people, and they're really, really smart.

Nathan is in the middle of, I don't know how you're doing it,

because you write, what, every other show, right, on Wednesday nights?

Yeah, well, the only way I've been able to do it is Jason has taken some double duty recently.

So

I don't think I approved that.

Yeah,

we did it.

We did it on the Wednesday.

No, but he's

not only writes every other program, but he has, Jason has taken on a little extra because he's also

writing a

new series for me that will be audio only.

How many have we done so far?

Four have been recorded?

So we've recorded four, about to do a fifth, and we'll have hopefully two more episodes after that.

So seven total, although the pilot aired last summer, so a lot of people have heard that one, but it would be six new episodes.

Yeah.

Yeah, six new episodes, and it is how we got here.

How did we start

being a country that doesn't listen to itself anymore?

We only listen to experts.

And Nathan, with his degree in history and his curious mind, we've just put together an amazing limited series, and that's coming out here in a few weeks as well.

So

he's been a busy writer, very busy writer.

Yeah.

Nathan Nipper, the name of the book is American Inheritance.

You can get it at Amazon or Barnes and Noble, but grab it.

It's a great, great read for the summer.

Nathan Nipper's American Inheritance.

Buy it now.

Back in a minute.

Thanks, Nathan.

Thanks, Glenn.

You know, and it's a great way to support these guys as well.

I mean, you know, you're going to love the book, but, you know, even if you're blind and it's not embrailed, buy it because

I pay these guys in peanuts and it would be, you know, I'd be a little extra perk.

No, I'm kidding.

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It's really, really good.

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Thank you so much.

Boy,

who would have seen it coming?

Sean Diddy Combs now admits to beating his

wife.

Or was it his wife or girlfriend?

I think it was his girlfriend.

Girlfriend at the time.

Does it count as an admission when everyone's seen the video?

No, I don't say admits.

Yeah.

And he said, I, boy, this is one of the darkest times in my life, and I really screwed it up.

And, you know, I'm disgusted.

I was disgusted when I did it.

I'm disgusted now.

You know, you can say that after the video comes out and everybody sees how horrendous that was, that beating.

But I don't, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't think it's sincere after the video comes out.

After he's been denying it for months and months and months that none of this was true and none of it happened.

And when, you know, if he would have come out, you know, when it was first, you know, accused and he said, I did it,

I'm ashamed, but, you know, even if he said, I'm not sure it was as bad as she says it was, but I did it and I was ashamed.

No, no, you can't come out and apologize.

The question is,

will he receive what even Louis C.K.

has received?

Will he be driven out or not?

That feels like the type of,

again, if it doesn't get any worse than this, it feels like at least this Louis C.K.

thing happens.

I don't know, because there's been a lot of smoke about this for a while, and

he's been denying it, and there's never been anything other than his words.

When you see the video, though, I mean, it's really, really awful.

It's hard to tell you.

The rap world,

I know this sounds kind of obvious, has got to be really dark.

What was the other rap?

What was the other rapper that had all the film on everybody?

It was kind of a, and then you had R.

Kelly that was, you know, enslaving young girls.

I mean, it's, it's bad.

What's going on?

All right.

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They don't have to pay any charges, and I hope they press charges now.

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