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What a weekend it was.

The constant protests, I guess, are the big story over the weekend.

And it doesn't seem to be stopping.

It seems to be the only thing that Americans want to do these days is protest the right of Israel to exist.

That's apparently controversial now.

It's amazing to see this happen.

We're seeing

university after university after university step up and decide that the hill they're going to die on is

the hill that supports Hamas.

This is apparently an unpopular position in this country and an incredible moment that we're in right now.

Let's go to

SAT1 if we could on our list.

I'm not sure if these are available.

We're having a little bit of a technical issue here, but here we go.

This is

a, we're having an Islamic prayer being held.

I have this album.

Just bought it on vinyl.

Now, this is the quietest of the protests around the country.

Most of them were not really like this.

Outside of the White House correspondence dinner,

there was more protesting going on.

This is

missing the visuals here.

You have

so this is someone dressed as a

Israeli soldier

and there's a bunch of blindfolded shirtless people who who get hit by blue powder and glass.

Which is making it a mistake.

Yeah, no, it's I mean

I think this is

you know the Israeli killing the white man, which is supposed to be the Palestinian, but they're white men, most of them.

Yeah.

Which I think just makes it, you know, even more confusing for anybody who's who is watching.

You know, I got to go back to the Islamic prayer.

I mean, I don't know about you, but I miss it sometimes.

Could you go back and play the Islamic prayer for me, please?

If you happen to be watching the Blaze, I just want to describe the Islamic prayer here.

Everybody's on a prayer rug there

at Columbia University.

It's a beautiful, beautiful scene.

And then Ivan.

And

Akbar.

Yes.

And

this guy is very, very popular in the Upper East Side.

So you have people, you know, on a prayer rug.

You know, we had to go to the Supreme Court to get the coach to be able to pray, you know, by himself on the field after a football game.

But this is totally cool.

And the nice thing is, they're including women in the call to prayer, which is very popular in the Middle East.

They love it when women get down and pray right alongside the men.

It is, it's wonderful.

It's truly, truly wonderful.

Now, let's let's go to cut four.

This is in Canada.

This is in Vancouver.

Free Palestine from the river to the sea.

Right.

Okay, can we stop there for just a second?

Stu, could you just explain the geography of

Israel?

I know there's the sea

on the west coast of Israel.

What's on the east coast of Israel or the easternmost, you know, furthest east you could go?

That would be a river, Glenn.

So,

yeah, what's interesting about this is that's how you know it's an aspirational call for unity

from the river to the sea.

Right.

So that, you know, Palestine will just take over everything from Israel and there'll be no Jews left.

That's the call for unity.

It's aspirational.

Okay, it's an aspirational call for unity.

That sounds very specific, that language, like that's what they're saying on college campuses.

And Rashida Talib, right out of her mouth.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, good.

So an aspirational call for unity.

The only thing you could be unified on is get rid of all the Jews because that means there's no Israel.

Yeah.

So no two-state solution.

Yeah, that was another slogan.

We don't want no two-state.

We want everything.

That was the chance that was coming down.

Well, but

see, they make it clear.

They want everything.

And we don't want no

one state.

So they've got double negative there, which means they want

a two-state solution, and

they say we want everything, and that must include a one-state and a two-state solution.

So I think it's very, very clear.

Now, could we go on and play what they were saying in Canada?

It was cut for.

We demand a free Palestine from the river to the sea.

and that we stand with the Palestinian resistance and their heroic and brave action on October 7th and they said long live October 7th

and we say today

long live October 7th

yeah

yeah

Yeah

You know, I love it when the Nazis are like long live the Holocaust, you know

Hey, long live those cool, really cool showers and oven system that we came up with.

You know, that clunky slogan.

Yeah, it's a clunky slog.

It's a clunky slogan, but

a true slogan.

But the equivalent of what they're saying.

The equivalent of what they're saying on these college campuses, the ones that everybody in the media seems to be supporting.

Long live freaking October 7th.

I mean, could you be any more...

I don't know, Glenn, is this one still borderline?

Is this one anti-Semitic or are we not sure?

Is this an aspirational call for unity?

I can't quite tell.

Well, we know it's brave.

We know it's brave.

It's, it's, well, it was October 7th was a very brave day.

It was brave and heroic what they did, really.

Really?

Brave and heroic.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, how, I mean, do you think it takes courage to go molest, slaughter, and then burn babies?

Sure.

Sure.

Takes courage to do that.

You might get caught and then seen for the monster that you really are.

But in this case, no, they're celebrated.

So it's brave and historic.

Now, in California and Cal Poly, cut five.

Does this have audio with it?

I can't.

We're seeing

the video of this.

Apparently, no sound to it.

But yet again,

graffiti inside the hallways here.

Some words we maybe don't say on the radio to recap.

They're grown-up words.

They're grown-up words.

They're big boy, big girl words.

And yeah, this has been just people ruining the facilities, and it's very messy, and there's graffiti everywhere inside the building.

It's wonderful.

This is another approach.

It helps you remember.

Kill all the Jews.

Kill all the Jews.

It helps you remember that.

Now, beyond killing all the Jews, there's something new that they're all for.

Cut 38, please.

This is in Germany, of all places,

the big Palestinian uprising in Germany this weekend.

And what are they calling for?

Doesn't sound good.

It never sounds good in German.

No, well, that's not in German.

It's in Arabic, but

you know, whenever you get somebody in Germany going,

no matter what language it is, you know it's trouble.

Don't worry, they were just calling for a caliphate.

So they're not wanting to bring the Nazis back.

They just want a caliphate.

Aspirational.

So yeah, very inspirational.

Now, can we go, if I could just get

the drag queens and the caliphate people, you know, if I could just get them together, a one-stop shop, I think we would be set.

Here's cut 30.

Today, what we're gonna do is we're gonna shout free Palestine.

Can I hear that?

Free Palestine!

Oh,

see,

this is the uniting message.

We can get the kids involved too, because we have a drag queen.

And the drag drag queen if you're if you're a drag queen and you know it shout free palestine so it's one place we can get both of those things where we can all come together

yeah that's an uh that's an amazing amazing clip i think i now this is just me speculating glenn because i'm not a i'm not a travel agent uh i don't work for a tourism board But I do wonder how that particular event would go down if held in Gaza.

Would it be different?

Because they are cheering on Palestine, so obviously there's some affinity there, but the drag queen story hour group reading to a bunch of, let's say, Gazan children, how would that work out in Gaza itself?

You know, it is funny that you should ask that, Stu.

You know, you may not be

a travel agent or work for some sort of

tourism, but you are a thinker.

Thank you.

You are a thinker.

And that's really

what counts.

Here's the good news.

The protesters are going to

love it.

They're going to love it.

What happened in Iraq just this weekend?

They made it illegal to be

on the spectrum, the sexual spectrum at all.

You're either a man or a woman.

Men have sex with women.

Women have sex with men.

Now, that's not all the time because, you know, there's a shortage of women over in the Middle East.

Sometimes they got to get a little them going on with a younger man.

You know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying?

So, but we don't talk about that.

I didn't say any of that.

I don't know what you're even talking about.

Say what?

But so they've outlawed now homosexuality, which is weird because Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,

he said at one point, I think it was at Columbia University, when asked about them gays, he He said, we don't have any gay people

in Iran.

And

lo and behold, they're going to make that wish to come true.

So you got that going for you.

Also, by the way,

they just killed their third,

where is this story?

Their third TikToker.

She was...

No, seriously, she was.

No, she was, she was, well, she's dead.

She's dead.

She was

a very popular influencer in uh iran and um

she's a woman and she was shown dancing but she wasn't just dancing she was wearing jeans and they were a little too tight uh you know me personally uh i don't i don't mind you know, some sort of law against jeans that are too tight on some people.

You know what I'm saying?

I, you know, you walk around Walmart once in a while and you're like, ooh, those really don't work on you, honey.

But

I don't want to see you executed.

But she was executed because they were a little too tight and too suggestive.

And she was laying in a bed.

Well, she was reading her son a good night story, but she was still in those jeans laying on a bed.

So they had to execute her over the weekend.

So the crackdown continues.

And hey, all you people on campus with your

little rug prayer thing with the woman right next to you, you know how popular that's going to be.

And all you drag queens, oh, they love you.

They love you.

In fact, I am going to set up a personal fund.

If you're a drag queen,

if you're a gay activist,

And you're out because you love it and you show it, clap your hands,

I'm going to go ahead and and give you airfare from wherever you live here in the united states to the gaza strip okay and bring your pamphlets bring your pamphlets bring your best wigs and your spiky high heels because they are going to love you there

and when you stop writing us or calling us we'll know exactly how much they love you over there.

So maybe we could send that as a message to all of your friends over here.

What the hell is wrong with you?

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New Glenn, you were running through those wonderful stories for the Middle East, and you mentioned Iran and Ahmadinejad and a bunch of stories that happened in Iraq, and you kind of went back and forth, and I don't know if people followed that exactly because it was Iran who had said there was no gays years and years ago, Colombia.

And both of the stories banning homosexuality and the TikToker being executed both happened in Iraq.

And what I found fascinating about that is...

We should be able to tell the difference, right?

Like we were we were supposedly helping out this country so that it did not end up like Iran.

And now here's the best.

It's only a trillion dollars.

It's only a trillion dollars.

You get what you pay for.

You want to go in there half-assed like that?

You get what you pay for.

Now, $2 trillion, $2 trillion.

That might have had somebody who just mildly hates gays.

But no, no.

Yeah,

we didn't do the job.

And so what we did is we empowered the head of the snake.

We made the snake even more powerful, which I love.

The head of of the snake over in the Middle East is Iran.

And now it's now you have Iranian Shias all over in Iraq.

And so they're getting, you know, they're doing the thing that Shias love.

And that is kill people that disagree with them.

Wow, that's weird because that's

wow, that's almost like the left here in America.

Oh, I see what they have in common.

They just like silencing people, throwing them in jail, or killing them if they disagree with them.

Wow, too bad we can't get them to agree on the same kind of people.

Or

we should get the two of them together.

Oh, because they'll like each other a lot.

No, no, no.

I think the left, when they get there, they'll be like, hi, everybody.

We brought birthday cakes and candles and we're going to decorate this mosque all up.

And they'll love it in the Shiite world.

Yeah, I know.

These regimes that you're talking about over there, too,

they're not the ones to fear.

It's Donald Trump.

Trump is the one to fear.

Like, that's the guy.

If you have to really be terrified about something coming down the road, it's definitely not the Islamic extremist regimes we're discussing.

It's instead

the tyranny of the real estate developer from Manhattan.

Yeah, you know, he wants,

I mean, he's a man of tyranny.

It's clear.

He hates them gays so much.

He was the first president to, you know, open a party openly and say, hey, I'm going to appoint gay people openly.

I'm going to have the first gay person speak on the podium.

I'm going to be the first president that actually runs and saying, I don't have a problem with gay people.

You know, you got to fear him.

But the guy who wants to chop your pee-pee off and throw you off a building, you know, that happens to be a log bull

coming across our border right now.

Don't fear him.

There's nothing to fear there.

Nothing to worry about.

Glenn.

Ow.

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And that's why he'll destroy

that other

imposter that's saying kill people.

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Welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

Pat Gray joins us, fresh off of student protest.

How was the weekend, Stu?

Or Pat?

Oh, it was

protestic.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

It wasn't protesting.

Really?

It really was.

Which one did you choose to

protest at?

I went to the one

at Harvard.

At Harvard?

Yeah.

Oh, did you raise the flag?

I helped.

Yeah, I helped lower the American flag first, which had to be taken out of the way, and then raise the Palestinian flag.

Amen.

Yeah.

It's a beautiful moment for all of us.

What about the flag for tolerance?

Well, those colors and like the

rainbow, but then they've changed it into like 943 colors and directions and diagonal lines.

Did you get that one?

Yeah, we got that one too.

Which is interesting because in the Gaza Strip, you know, those people would be killed.

And

so it's great that they support the Palestinian cause.

anyway.

I love that.

Very, very tolerant.

Selfless.

Yeah.

It is.

Very selfless.

Very selfless.

So, you know, I was looking looking at the

trend here on the summers, and there's something here that I don't know if anybody else has caught.

I mean,

in 2017 in the summer, you know, we still had the women's march going on.

That was 2017.

That was the big protest that year.

Then the March for Our Lives, which was against guns

in 2018.

2019 became very busy because you had Greta, you know, very upset about how dare you, and the climate change and everything else.

And so she got a bunch of people to block traffic and throw soup at really expensive paintings, which I think,

you know, it really turned me.

I was like, I don't know if I trust this, you know, little puny pip squeak.

And then she was like, you know, we got a destroyed paintings and the soup.

And I thought, okay.

Then the, oh, by the way, that year also, we had, we set Portland on fire.

I think we we set Minneapolis on fire.

Chaz

was built in Seattle.

How's that doing now up in Seattle?

I don't even want to ask.

I'm sure it's doing well.

Then in 2020, we had the COVID

protests, which couldn't be done because of COVID.

It was really, it was wrong.

But if you happen to want to march with BLM and loot some stores, you know what I'm saying, then it was okay.

Then it was okay.

21, we had the masks vaccines.

22, it starts to slow down.

Strangely, after Joe Biden is elected, it kind of, you know, the mask and the vaccines and nobody really pays attention.

Then 22, you know, the Putin stooge.

You know, if you're for, if you're, if you're not willing to send all of your money.

all of your money over to Ukraine, you love Putin.

Then 23, last summer was kind of a yawn fest, which I think it was kind of like, hey, let's just take a break because we got a big, big summer coming up.

And if our guy loses, we're going to have to just keep upping the ante every

summer.

So this year is the summer of global jihad.

So

that's great.

Next summer, I'm not sure, but I think it's the summer of Satan is neat

marches,

which will display the rainbow flag, but it won't look exactly the same.

It's exactly the same, except it's all black and like the caliphate flag, you know, but that has right whiting on it, right, white writing.

So, you know, all the diverse colors, even the white stuff just fades right directly to black.

So Satan is neat coming next summer.

Make sure you prepare your kids in college.

I was thinking of the

t-shirt we made a while ago that just says learn, then protest.

The order is important.

And I feel like it really applies.

It's more relevant than ever, right?

Yeah.

Doesn't it?

Kind of feels like that.

Are you saying that they're big fat dummies?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kind of saying that.

Big fat dummies.

Learnthenprotest.com, by the way, if you want to get the shirt.

Because it's something you could wear to the protests.

Because I don't think they know what the order is.

I think

they're at least doing one of the things.

They're protesting.

There's no evidence that they're learning, but they should know that the steps are clear.

You need to learn about the topic you're protesting, and then you go to the protest.

Well, you saw

the receipts on learning, okay?

They have the receipts.

$90,000 a year, and they're learning.

They're learning a lot.

You saw the girls interviewed last week, right, at some of those protests where they're asked,

why are you here?

What about the Palestinian situation has

motivated you to get out and speak on their behalf?

And none of them knew.

Not one of them understood why they were there.

In fact, they said, yeah, I'm not that educated on it.

Then why

are you standing there with a placard?

Why?

They don't know.

They have no idea.

So, yeah, I think it's really important.

Learn, then protest.

It would be nice.

It would be nice.

It would be a nice change.

I think it would solve a lot of these problems.

And again, you guys were, I know, won over by the soup on the paintings.

Myself, I like to at least miss one flight.

I want to be on a road on the way to the airport, and I want to miss that flight.

And then I think, wow, the Gowsons are the good guys in this.

Yeah, because there was people laying in the roadway.

Yeah.

Is that why you're exactly?

Yeah, yeah.

I love that.

That convinces me.

Oh, every time.

I've talked about this for decades because of the protests in Houston

that dumped garbage in intersections.

Man, that won me over to the janitors downtown and their plight.

I wanted them to make $1,000 an hour after they dumped garbage in my way.

I loved it.

I loved it.

So it's weird because I didn't see all those protesters.

I just noticed, I was near campus this weekend.

I just noticed how many speed bumps they put on the roads all around the campus.

So

I didn't see the dying at all.

Anyway, by the way, there is Marianne Alwan.

This is a very sad, tragic story.

This is from AP.

Mariam Alwan, she figured the worst was over when the New York City police, in riot gear, mind you, arrested her on the Columbia University campus and then loaded her and others onto the bus and held them in custody for hours, hours.

But the next evening, yeah, she thought it was over, but it wasn't.

The next evening, she received a curt email from the university.

And I'm talking curt.

She and other students, it said, were being suspended for their arrests at the Gaza Solidarity Encampment.

And this is a tactic that a lot of colleges are using now.

You know, they're just saying, hey, we want you out of here.

And so now the students' rights to protest for these things.

And there's faculty that are standing with the protesters and they're like, hey,

they shouldn't be forced out of school.

What do you mean you're going to suspend them?

And the terms of the suspension vary from campus to campus.

At Columbia and its affiliated Bernard College for Women,

Alwan and dozens more were arrested on April 18th, barred from campus and classes, unable to attend in person or virtually, and banned from the dining halls.

Wow.

I mean, where are you going to eat?

I mean, it's practically a food desert there in Manhattan.

Questions about her academic future remains.

Will she be allowed to take final exams?

What about financial aid, graduation?

Columbia says the outcomes will be decided at disciplinary hearings.

And

she and her attorney said, this is very dystopian.

I mean, all we were calling for was chanting was death to the Jews.

And now we can't,

now they suddenly don't want us on campus.

That's weird, huh?

That's weird.

That is weird.

You would think we would tolerate death to Jews chants, wouldn't you?

At a major American university, you would.

In fact, you'd welcome it, right?

Because

when we said never again, we didn't mean never again.

We meant until 2024.

That's the thing.

Never even did until now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

An attorney for the Palestinian Legal Fund, which is, gosh, I'd love to know who set this all up for them.

But they're helping groups all over college campuses, and

they filed a

civil suit,

a civil rights case against the school, accusing Columbia of not doing enough to really address the discrimination against the Palestinian students.

Yeah.

They're the victims.

They're the victims.

Amen.

Yeah.

And the level of punishment, according to the attorney, is not even just draconian.

Okay.

It's like over the, I love attorneys that say, it's like, it's like over-the-top callousness

is that worse than draconian because it seems like draconian is worse than that yeah I mean you know

callousness think about what the word callousness means like you have calluses on your hand right well okay yeah yeah it's that bad so it's the wow that's bad yeah it's it's it's not it's not good no that's not

draconian what is

I just conjures up I don't know that's about Dracula Dracula's not even real

Palises are real.

That's true.

Yeah.

And if and the only real Dracula is Count Chocula, which he produces incredibly delicious cereal.

No, seriously.

Right.

Which is not a bad thing.

Not a bad thing at all.

So draconian is a positive word.

It means chocolatey.

Well,

thank you.

Definition chocolatey.

Chocolatey.

Right.

Right.

Palestinian legal filed the complaint Thursday at the U.S.

Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights.

Oh, it's going to be fixed there.

The four pro-Palestinian students and the student group of Columbia Students for Justice in Palestine are the real victims.

The group calls for an investigation into the university's handling of alleged discrimination and harassment against pro-Palestinian students by Columbia students.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There's a couple of things going on that involve President Trump, of course.

One is his trial with Alvin Bragg in New York City.

How is that going?

What is the latest?

What are we expecting this week?

And then, the latest update

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We're going to talk to one of the real experts who understands all of this and what it all means.

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Attorney General.

We won't hold this against him.

He was a former U.S.

Attorney

in the District of Manhattan.

So let's leave that alone.

Andy, how are you?

Good, I'm doing great.

How are you?

Very, very good.

So

let's start with the big story, I think, and that is the Supreme Court and what they were arguing last week.

Can you give me

your honest take on

what this is really about for the future beyond Donald Trump and how you think this is going to affect what is happening with Donald Trump?

Glenn, I think it's important that you frame the question that way because it seemed to me, and I reread the transcript over the weekend after listening to the oral argument, the court is a lot more concerned about the presidency than about Trump.

Sure, it should be.

And Yeah, and

it's an important point to make because a lot of the coverage has been this hysteria over whether the Trump-pact Supreme Court is in the tank for him and they're going to get rid of Jack Smith's prosecution.

I don't think that's going to happen at all.

It's possible that Smith won't get his case to trial, depending on what the court does.

What I think the court's going to do is send the case back to Judge Chutkin, who is the trial judge in Washington, with instructions to sort out what things in the indictment against Trump are what you would call official acts that might arguably be immune from prosecution because they go to the core responsibilities of the presidency, and what are private acts or private wrongs that he would not have immunity for even though they happened during his presidency.

But the

upshot of the questioning of the lawyers, including Trump's lawyer, and this is particularly by Justice Barrett and Justice Kagan,

Trump's lawyer admitted that there's a lot of conduct charged in the indictment that is private conduct, that really wouldn't be covered by an immunity claim, even though Trump's been saying a lot of stuff about absolute, complete immunity.

And I think the concessions he made in the argument, that is John Sauer, Trump's lawyer, would be enough if Smith was willing to tailor his indictment down to the things that Sauer conceded, they could go ahead with a trial on just those acts.

He'd lose a lot of evidence, but he probably should.

So

what are some of the acts that

could fall under,

you know, private, and so you could prosecute?

And

what are the acts that are the president and you don't prosecute

yeah so the the the one bright line we can take away from this is that

there seems to be a consensus that there is a a divide between

office seeking and the carrying out of the duties of an office So if something is purely in the nature of trying to get reelected, that's deemed to to be private because it's not part of the duties of the presidency.

It would be the same for anyone who was seeking office, whether that person was an incumbent or not.

And then there are other things that are clearly presidential.

So, just to give some solid examples that came out of the argument, Trump's lawyer conceded that if Trump made a private scheme with private lawyers

to get slates of electors

designated for him and to supply documents to

the Congress suggesting that they were the authentic actual slate of electors designated by a state.

That would be private conduct because

it's purely office-seeking, and he carried it out only with private lawyers.

On the other hand, there's an allegation in the indictment that Trump tried to use the Justice Department to signal to states that there were serious concerns about fraud and considered both removing the Attorney General when he got pushback and considered sending a letter that they never sent from the Justice Department to the state of Georgia to tell them that they needed to

do more scrutiny over what happened in the popular election.

Trump argues very strongly, and I think the court will probably go along with this, that that is the president's control over the Justice Department is purely a presidential act that should have no part in a criminal prosecution.

So, those are the kinds of things that the court is talking about sorting out.

But, Andy, didn't when Trump sat another group of electors, or tried to,

that's what

that's what

the friends of Dershowitz did.

I don't remember all of the attorneys in the 2000 election.

That's what they were recommending to be done.

You have to do that, or you have no case.

Yeah.

Let me just be clear, Glenn.

They're not saying that Trump wouldn't have a defense at trial.

What we're talking about now is

purely immunity.

That is, could he prevent the trial from happening in the first place?

I think that there's significant defenses to the fraudulent electors claim, beginning with the fact that the electors themselves didn't think they were fraudulent.

They thought they were contingent.

They thought that basically

they were sitting in as the slate of electors in the event that Trump prevailed either in the state courts or with the state legislature to throw out the popular election.

Then that would activate.

But they weren't trying to fool anyone into saying that they were the actual electors that had been certified by the states.

Can he get a fair trial on that?

If indeed he has to go to court?

Well, I think it's tough for him to get a fair trial in Washington.

Why can't someone make the case here?

Why can't his people make the case that you can't get a fair trial with the jury pool in New York or in Washington, D.C.?

I think Trump's problem is he's too famous

in some ways.

I mean, the problem is that unlike almost any other defendant, he goes into, you know, one of the things that they can always say about him is he's the most famous guy in the world, and no matter where you had the case, you would have the same pretrial publicity problems.

And they kind of reject out of hand the thought that because

a jurisdiction votes substantially against Trump as a political matter, that that means they can't be fair to him as a legal matter.

You know,

you can debate that all you want about whether that's a sensible distinction to draw or not, but it is the distinction the courts draw.

Okay, so what do you think is coming down the pike on this?

Based on that.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I think that they will send the case back to Judge Chutkin.

with instructions to go through the indictment and figure out

what's a public act and what's a private act.

If Smith wants to fight on that,

then he's never going to get to trial prior to Election Day, which of course is his big aim, because this would still be a live immunity claim, and immunity is one of the few things that you can actually appeal pre-trial.

So I don't see how he would get to trial.

But I do think Smith, if he wants to, and if it's that important to him to get to trial, quickly, he could say, you know what, I'm going to dispense with all of the acts that you say are

immunized official presidential acts, and we'll just

go to trial on the private stuff.

It would be a weaker case for him, but it wouldn't be an unwinnable case.

And what is the punishment?

Well,

that's an interesting question because that may depend on another Supreme Court case this term, the one that they argued a week before on the obstruction statute that's key to Trump's case.

That obstruction statute has a 20-year penalty, and it's the two main counts in the indictment against Trump.

The other two counts only have, I think, five-year penalties.

So if the Supreme Court says that it rejects the way the Justice Department has been using the obstruction statute, which it might,

then that would require probably a big overhaul.

of Smith's case because those charges are very important to him.

But if the court upholds that statute, which it also might, then you're looking at a potential of 40 years imprisonment.

Now, he won't get 40 years, but statutorily, there would be availability of 40 years' imprisonment on those charges, and I think 10 on the other two.

The other two are fraud on the United States and the civil rights charge.

So he'd be looking at statutorily 50 years imprisonment,

which would

indicate under the sentencing guidelines that he would get, I would think, you know, four, five, six years

of a sentence if he gets convicted on those charges.

Unbelievable.

You know,

last week the Biden administration was making the case, well, Donald Trump's the only one that's ever broken the law.

That's why we've never had this before.

That's such crap, and we all know it.

Why haven't we had this problem before?

I think a lot of the criminal,

the potentially prosecutable criminal conduct has come up

late in presidential terms.

Like, for example, with Clinton, the pardon scandal happened as he was going out the door.

And I was in the Justice Department at the time.

There was a, you know, there was over a year of pretty intense debate within the Justice Department about whether he ought to be charged with bribery or not in connection with those pardons.

But I think there's a...

There's always been, maybe this has changed now, but there's always been a current of like when a new administration comes in, particularly if it's a new administration of a different party, they don't want to revisit what happened with the last guy.

They want to just go ahead on their own stuff.

You know, this old idea of, you know, we're looking forward, we're not looking back.

And I think that that certainly had a lot to do with why the Bush Justice Department didn't prosecute Clinton.

And I think with Obama, There was a lot of rhetoric during the 2008 campaign about war crimes against Bush and all that stuff.

But when they got into power, they not only weren't interested in prosecuting anyone on war crimes, I mean, they reopened the CIA investigation, but then they closed it, but they actually ended up adopting a lot of Bush-Cheney counterterrorism.

So, you know, I think there's a lot of rhetorical campaign stuff about how, you know, lock her up and we're going to put these guys in jail.

But it doesn't come to pass.

I actually think Trump is serious about it this time because he sees what they've done to him.

And that's why I thought it was amusing in the Supreme Court argument for the government lawyers to get up and say, you know, you don't have to worry about this.

This is just suey generous with Trump.

It'll never happen again.

And in the meantime, Trump is ahead in the polls and he's running as the retribution candidate.

He's promising if he gets in, he's going to do this stuff, right?

So

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Andy, tell me about how Alvin Bragg's doing so far.

It's a terrible case.

I think

I wrote a column about this today called How Judge Murchon is orchestrating Trump's conviction.

And I was reminded of the fact that Trump, when he was a young guy, learned a lot about litigation from Roy Cohn.

And

what Cohn used to say, his first principle of hardball litigation was, don't tell me what the law is, tell me who the judge is.

And I think Trump knows that, and he knows it very well.

And as I'm closely watching the rulings that are being made and the arguments that the judge is allowing to be made, it's clear that he has allowed Bragg.

Just so people understand, Glenn, this case is indicted as

falsification of business records that occurred in the months of February through December of 2017.

Those are the only charges in the indictment.

The case is being presented to the jury as a conspiracy from 2015 through 2017 to steal the 2016 election by violations of federal campaign finance law, which Alvin Bragg, as a state prosecutor, has no authority to enforce.

And that's the way the case has been framed by

the prosecutor based on orders from the judge.

And that is the way that they are proceeding.

And

Judge Murchon

is allowing the state to prove

that Michael Cohen pled guilty to two campaign finance

offenses and that David Pecker, the AMI guy who ran the National Enquirer, that they had a non-prosecution agreement from the Justice Department and then paid paid a fine of $180,000 to the Federal Election Commission for violating federal election law.

Now,

it's a black letter principle of law that one person's, let's say person A,

his guilty plea is not admissible evidence against person B, even if A says that A and B acted together.

It's absolutely improper for these

for this evidence of what Michael Cohn and David Pecker were thinking about the federal election laws, the fact that they made deals with the government.

None of that stuff should come in.

The judge is letting it in, and he's not letting Trump explain to the jury that he, Trump, was not charged by the Justice Department or the FEC, because and the reason is obvious.

They didn't think that these were actually

expenditures that were cognizable under the federal law.

And he's also not letting Trump call an expert witness to explain campaign law to the jury.

So, what the jury is going to hear about campaign law is going to come from Michael Cohen and David Tecker.

So,

it's a farce.

How is this a fair trial if you can't call people and you can't let the

jury know

truly the the other side of it.

Yeah.

Look, it's even more fundamentally unfair than that because in the United States, under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, you are entitled, if you're going to be charged with a felony, it's got to be on the basis of an indictment returned by a grand jury that explicitly says what the charge is.

The indictment in this case talks about, you know, false bookkeeping in 2017.

The case that's being presented to the jury is a conspiracy to violate the federal election laws.

It's mind-boggling that it's being permitted.

Wow.

Andy, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

This would definitely lose in a higher court, don't you think?

I do, but I think it'll be cold comfort.

I mean, Harvey Weinstein's conviction just got reversed last week.

I think that's been three years.

Yeah.

All right.

Andy, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thanks, Mike.

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How are you?

I'm doing well, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm good.

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So have at it.

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And then after the program is over, we're going to create this for this one four-month session.

We're going to do many of these going forward.

You're going to become part of a network of young people, just like the WEF's Young Global Leaders Program, so that you can help each other going forward for the rest of your career.

So, that's really the vision that I have for building this out over the long run.

So, it's like Yale's skull and bones without the evil.

Absolutely.

Yeah, good.

All right, good.

Yeah, you get it.

So,

so

what are you looking for in people, 21 to 34 years old, or 35 years old?

What are you looking for?

So, the biggest thing is if you have a passion for public policy,

you need to be able to communicate, especially write and do research.

But the biggest thing is that passion for public policy.

You need to be interested in doing detailed investigation,

in poring through boring old documents to find something that's really important,

pouring through videos, video footage, and podcasts and all of that stuff, all the things that you and I and our research team have been doing for years and years and years.

It takes a lot of hard work.

It isn't easy,

these things.

But if you have that passion for it, that's going to be the most important thing.

We can teach you a lot of the other skills, but we can't teach the passion.

So you've got to want to be willing to devote yourself to this for the rest of your career.

So if this isn't something that you're interested in going into for your whole career and you just think this might be an interesting thing to do for a summer or you know, whatever, this is not going to be the program for you.

And we do have programs for

people like that that just they want to know the truth about America or her history, but don't necessarily, you know, are not necessarily looking to make their whole life about

Washington or policies or something like that.

And we have a program that is separate at Mercury One from this.

This is for a fellowship.

And I, can I tell you,

I have people in Washington all the time that ask for briefings on the things that we do know here

at the show.

And you will have access to some very high-ranking people.

You know,

if you are the hard workers, you're the ones that are discovering and putting it all together and briefing not only people like me,

but also people

in Washington.

It's a great start.

Yeah,

that's exactly right.

We're going to ask that people sign a confidentiality agreement

when they join the program because you're going to see a lot of really important information.

You're going to see things that lawmakers are saying.

You're going to have access to research that nobody has access to.

And so we're really inviting you in to the club.

How are you going to make sure?

I mean, I know we do vetting for our summer

program for college students.

And so far, I think we've only had one person that we were like, okay, you need to go.

But how are you, what questions are you asking?

What should people expect?

Yeah, I mean, there's going to be, so the application itself is pretty simple and straightforward.

But after we've identified sort of the most promising candidates, we're going to have long, detailed conversations with you.

And I assure you, we will know for sure

if you share our values or if you don't share our values.

I don't think that that's going to be too much of a problem because of how detailed those conversations are going to be, multiple stages of interviews and things like that.

Because we really do want the most dedicated, the best, the brightest, and the most, the people who share our ideological values.

It's fantastic.

Again,

you can go later to mercury1.org.

They were a little busy with the tornadoes today, which, by the way,

we have a goal of raising $50,000 just for the tornadoes today.

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So if you want to donate, go to mercury1.org.

And that's where you'll find the information about this new fellowship for a new generation of leaders.

We want to

really

up our game on this and be able to help train

the future leaders of tomorrow.

And so Justin and Mercury One have put together Freedom Rising Fellowship, the Freedom Rising Fellowship program.

And you can get all the information at justinhaskins.com.

Is that right?

Yep, justinhaskins.com.

And you can also email fellowship at mercuryone.org right now.

You can email that if you're interested in applying, and we'll make sure you have everything that you need.

Right.

We'll need a resume,

two writing samples, brief statement explaining why you're interested in joining the program.

That'll be the first hurdle.

And just go to fellowship at mercury1.org, send us everything, and we'll be in touch.

Justin, really excited about this.

We'll talk to you probably again, get some more detail later this week, if we can.

Yeah, sounds great.

How are you feeling about ESG and all of the things that we've been working on?

Oh, boy.

How much time do I have?

About two minutes.

Okay, about two minutes.

So I have a confession to make.

A couple of months ago made the mistake of sending you an email telling you how excited I was about some things that were happening in Europe.

And you went on the air and, you know, you bashed me and you said, well, you know, he's young.

He's young.

I remember when I was young and naive.

Yes, yes.

And so it turns out that European ESG gigantic government-run scheme that we've been talking about for years that I thought was dead.

has come back from the dead and now apparently it is on the fast track to being passed.

It's already been passed by Parliament now and so it's got like one more tiny little hurdle to clear and that's going to be truly one of the biggest fights that we have going forward on the ESG battle.

So I really thought we were the tide had turned in our favor and now I'm feeling a little less optimistic.

With that said, in America, some really good things have happened over the past couple of years.

This year we got a bill passed in Tennessee.

You would talk to the lawmaker there, Rep.

Jason Zachary.

That's now been signed into law by the governor there.

So that's the second toughest anti-ESG law that we have in America, the toughest being in Florida.

So that's a really positive development.

But this European ESG mandatory system is going to bring in all of these companies in the United States.

It's going to catch up a bunch of businesses, even that don't do business in Europe, but do business with someone that does business in Europe.

It's a supply chain law.

And it is probably the most dangerous ESG social credit scoring system thing that we've had to face yet.

All right.

Can you hold on?

Do you have time to hold on?

Because I want you to explain that.

And if you don't have time, I can explain it.

I do.

Okay, good.

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So as Justin was saying, Justin Haskins from the Heartland Foundation is with us announcing a new fellowship at mercury1.org.

More details on that.

But

we were talking about ESG, and ESG has been rumored to be going away over in Europe, but it is just a game.

Their elections are coming through in, I think, June and July.

And those are major elections.

And I think you're going to start seeing it rear its ugly head again.

But Justin just said that in Europe, they are passing, and these are drackon.

This is ESG on steroids.

This is the real deal.

And it has all kinds of ramifications for America and American workers.

Can you explain that, Justin?

Yeah.

So in Europe, they don't call it ESG.

They call it due diligence.

So if you want to look this up, look for due diligence European Union.

And what you're going to find is a supply chain law.

That's how they're selling this.

A human rights supply chain law.

But essentially what it is, is, is it's a way for the European Union to create a government-mandated social credit scoring system, ESG system, and then to impose it on most of the rest of the world.

And the way they're going to do this is by creating these requirements that say, if you want to do business in Europe, you have to adhere to our ESG system that we're going to create, a government-created ESG system.

You have to adhere to it, full of all kinds of social justice provisions, climate change alarmism, Paris climate agreement, all that stuff.

You have to adhere to it.

But not only do you have to adhere to it if you do business in Europe, so an American company doing business in Europe would have to adhere to it, but also you have to make sure that many of the businesses in your supply chain, regardless of where they're located, also have to adhere to it.

So Ford, for example, Ford does a lot of business in Europe.

They will have to adhere to the EU's ESG system, but they'll also have to make sure that all the companies they do business with in America, or the vast majority of them, also adhere to various parts of this ESG system.

So you could be some rubber plant in Youngstown, Ohio, and you're going to get caught up in this even if you don't do business in the United States.

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Welcome to Monday.

I want to talk just a little bit about politics here.

Joe Biden is fading fast on so many levels, but in the polls, he is just getting hammered.

He has the worst polls of any president since we've been taking polls in the last 70 years.

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Now, the New York Times said, people are just becoming nostalgic.

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Yeah, is it nostalgia or is it just that what he did worked and what Joe Biden did is not working in any way, shape, or form?

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I am interested to see what she has to say.

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Because after that disclaimer, I feel so much safer and better.

Selena Zito, welcome to the program.

How are you?

Hi, good morning, Sunshine.

How are you?

I'm good.

So

you were out on the road with Joe Biden and Donald Trump, and things

couldn't be more different for the two, but you were in Pennsylvania.

And the week that Donald Trump came into, I think it was a Chick-fil-A,

he just said, Chick-fil-A on me for everybody.

And it was a really cool gesture.

Then a few days later, Joe Biden did something.

And take us through what he did, not only there at the restaurant, but the next day.

So, so Trump was actually in Atlanta when he went to Atlanta.

However, the next day he was in Pennsylvania in the Lehigh Valley.

Now, I just want to explain why Lehigh Valley is important.

It is a working-class area.

It's a swing district.

It's also a heavily Hispanic district.

And we've noticed how Hispanics have moved to become more conservative.

Anyways, to the point, there were 42,000 people there.

42,000.

That's a lot of people in the Lehigh Valley for a Republican.

I think that's important to note.

And it's in the middle of what I call the middle of somewhere, but where most people call the middle of nowhere.

And that is also important because there is an intuition, whether you like Trump or not, there's been a very good intuition is to show up in places that people don't expect you to.

And

earning votes.

Now let's contrast that to what Biden did.

He went to very three, very specific, safe areas where he knows he's going to win the vote.

There is not going to be a rally.

These are elected people and sort of

party people that come to all of these events in Scranton and Philadelphia.

In Pittsburgh, it was union leaders.

Now, remember, that's very different than rank and file.

And so these events were very orchestrated, very minimally attended.

And what was really fascinating to me was that he had a message about something

and Wall Street people.

I don't know.

I mean, that's sort of the people.

I don't even know.

Like, I looked at, I watched his matches.

I'm like,

I don't know why.

Did nobody tell you that people are not upset about Wall Street people, but they're really, really upset about inflation?

And then he goes to Pittsburgh, and I saw the most extraordinary thing.

There were two sets of protesters outside, a robust level of protesters.

On one side, were like independent and Republican voters saying,

hey, hey, ho, ho, Bidenomics has to go.

They were singing at the same time with pro-Hamas people, not together, but they were using the chant at the same time who were saying, hey, hey, ho, ho, Genocide Joe has got to go.

My brain was scrambled by that.

And so, but but but Biden made the safe bet.

He went to the places

where he thinks he needs to bring his base back.

Trump went to places where he needs to earn new voters.

And that's the difference between the two of them in Pennsylvania.

And I think in a state that's

registration, Democratic registration has dropped dramatically from 2020, where it was 600,000 advantage over Republicans, Democrats, to now 389,000 Republican.

I mean, Democrats.

Democrats still have the advantage, but they lose a whole heck of a lot of people.

Holy cow, that's a lot of people to lose.

So go ahead.

Well, I think what's important, Glenn, to pay attention to, people are looking for this big moment, right?

In particular,

politicians and strategists.

This big moment that's going to change everything.

I believe, as the way that it is going, it is tiny little cuts that are hurting Biden.

It is the closing, oh my god, it was so heartbreaking watching that Weerton, West Virginia steel plant that has been around for 120 years close down on Friday.

And you say, oh, West Virginia, who cares?

Well, guess what?

People from Ohio that's at the panhandle.

People from Ohio and Pennsylvania work there.

And it was closed down because of its care, because the Biden administration

refused.

I'm going to

I might mix this up with another tariff problem.

But anyways, it it it didn't give American Steel an even playing field.

So they had to close.

And so it's that kind of tiny little cut.

It is the pausing of the liquid natural gas, which doesn't just impact people

in the industry or even people that are downstream of it, like barbershops and machine shops and hotels and so forth.

It also impacts farmers.

Why?

People don't think about this.

But farmers are profoundly impacted by the liquid natural gas being

paused because they have leases on their land, oftentimes with

natural gas

facilities

on their extractions on their land.

Oftentimes, these leases are what keep these farms going.

So I think it's really important.

And then there's 45B.

It is the

IRS tax code, only

implemented in Pennsylvania or impacting Pennsylvania, that is going to keep us from getting that big hydrogen plant that he came to the state, Biden came to the state to brag about, losing billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.

So these are the tiny and then sheets.

I mean, why do you go after Sheets?

People don't know who what Sheets is.

That is

a belt of gas stations, kind of like Bucky's is in the South.

It's beloved.

It's just good service, et cetera, et cetera.

And this is where he bought the sandwiches for the workers.

On a Friday,

on a Thursday, he goes in and buys a bunch of sandwiches.

It's clear he's never been in a Sheets or a gas station.

And he, the next day, the administration chews Sheets.

Forget this.

enforcing criminal background checks on all of their employees.

Why?

Because they said it's racist.

Which, by the way, I think if I were a minority, I'd be highly insulted that you think

no minority can pass a criminal background check.

It's just insulting.

Not only did

he pull that out as a race card, he has now retracted his war on menthol cigarettes because he is afraid that's going to hurt his black base because I guess all black people smoke are menthol cigarettes.

And so, you know, I'll kill you, you know, over time, but

I just need your vote this time around.

It's just astounding.

So, what does your gut tell you?

And I know we're a long way away, but they seem so confident, so confident.

What does your gut tell you that is coming?

Because I cannot believe that still there's 42, you know, 42% of the country that says, yeah, I'm for Joe Biden.

Well, you know, there are people that will always vote Democrat.

They just will.

I think they were called yellow dog Democrats or blue dogs?

No, yellow dog Democrats in the South.

And that's their preference.

It always will be.

And then there are others who just cannot abide Trump's comportment.

However, you are seeing people

that have left him in 2020 and post-2021 that are coming back because

people decide on their lives and their livelihoods and their communities.

Those are the things that impact them.

They look at their pocketbook.

They look around at their lives.

And I feel as though I am reliving 2016 all over again.

2020 did not feel this way.

I don't If you remember having me on, I was hesitant to say that Trump would win, and much of that had to do with COVID and

how, and

all the things that surrounded COVID.

There were millions of things that impacted it.

And also that September 29th

debate wasn't his best moment.

And a lot of people had voted right after that, early voting.

So I think that this

2024 is much more similar to 2016.

It feels very much

that is something that is Trump's to lose.

What remains to be his most important asset is his understanding that he needs to earn votes.

Okay.

Do you remember years ago, Billy Joel had that song, Allentown, right?

And everyone across the country sang the song with earnest and heart, not because they loved Allentown, but because they saw their city in that song.

They saw themselves reflected, that loss of community and jobs.

Trump intuitively understands that while he is in Harlem campaigning or at a construction site campaigning, he isn't just campaigning in those places.

He is campaigning with the backdrop of a reflection of what a thousand different cities look like across the country.

And he intuitively understands that.

And it's interesting to me that he makes those kind of choices and Biden makes the choices that he has that doesn't earn him new votes.

He is quite brilliant at sensing the pulse

and knowing it.

And I'm so glad because I really, I think your opinion matters so much because you don't, you're not hanging out with experts.

You're hanging out with people in the rural areas.

And so you just have a better sense.

And I'm so glad to hear that you say this is feeling more like 2016 than 2020.

If you can hang on just a second, I want to talk to you a little bit about Pennsylvania and what they've done to clean up the vote, if anything, because that I think is the main concern of people.

Really, I think, on both sides.

We just want a clean, fair election.

But there has been this

all-of-government

decree that has gone out to bring in new voters.

We hear about

illegals voting, et cetera, et cetera.

I want to hear about what you think in Pennsylvania, how well they have done, if anything, to clean up the vote this time around.

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So, Selena, everybody is concerned about the theft of an election.

And the best thing we can do is shore that up so whoever wins.

We know we can trust the election.

How are you doing in Pennsylvania on this?

Pretty well.

Shapiro, Governor Josh Shapiro, Democrat.

They've done a good job of clearing out the voter rolls, meaning the dead people.

And also it's done on a county-by-county

effort.

This is a general mix of Democrat,

county executives, and Republicans,

or like a three-person commissioner.

And they've all done a fairly non-partisan good job.

Republicans, by the way, this is really kind of funny.

So in October, Governor Shapiro made it easier to change your voter registration or to register to vote by doing it when you get your new driver's license or you renew your driver's license.

And I thought it was pretty funny that

some Republicans like flipped out and said, this is going to get more Democrats.

Well,

there are 55,000 new Republicans within the first month

of that law being enacted.

So I think right now it is, while the Democrats still hold a majority in the state, Republicans have been doing a robust effort, not just on a grassroots level.

You see them everywhere, but you also have seen that on their own.

They're doing it on their their own.

They go to change their driver's license picture, and they're like, oh, I can change my voter registration, or

I can

register to vote if they're a young person.

So for once in a blue moon, the Republicans have actually done a good job of taking advantage of all the technology, but also the enthusiasm that is hit on their back.

If you had to,

and I wouldn't hold you to this because it's so far away, but if it were being held today,

how would it end?

In Pennsylvania, right now,

I mean, it's super close.

It's going to be super close.

However, I would at this moment give the edge to Trump

because of the small tax, the tiny little cuts that I've been talking about, the LNG pause, the 45V, the closing of

the steel mill,

the sheets, these tiny little things that, and inflation.

Inflation is the biggest thing in this state.

Costs are soaring,

and they haven't stopped.

And they're insulted when everyone tells you the economy is fine.

Look, it's not 2008.

2008, the issue was jobs.

We have jobs.

It's not the job.

Some people are working a lot of jobs because they can't afford basic costs.

Selena, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

God bless.

Selenazito, you can find her at selenazito.com, selenazito.com.

She is, I mean, she really has her finger on the pulse, especially in Pennsylvania where she is from and spends a lot of her time.

But she's listening to people, and that's the one thing that I feel like our government doesn't do anymore.

They don't listen to people.

You know, we used to say, I don't want a president that is, you know, going by the polls.

I don't know.

It would be nice once in a while if if he would just open up the windows of the White House to hear the chants all around the White House and the protesters, you know, because they don't seem to be listening to us.

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America, I'd like to introduce you to somebody who I hope will be replacing Mitt Romney.

If not him, at least someone of his background and belief in the Constitution.

Trent Staggs is now the U.S.

Senate candidate.

He is the mayor of Rivington, Riverton, Utah.

Most people would go, he, I don't know.

Well, let's just say this: it's one of the few cities in the country, if not the world, that would not enforce the lockdowns during COVID.

At the GOP convention, it is a crowded, crowded primary,

but

he is the two-term mayor,

and 70% of the delegates supported him in the final round of voting yesterday.

We welcome him to the program or Saturday.

How are you, sir?

Glenn, I'm fantastic.

It's great to be with you.

Thank you, Trent.

I just have a few questions, and they're kind of tough.

I don't mean to, but I don't want to waste anybody's time here.

The

Mitt Romney, if you're going against, you know, or for his seat, what are the things that really hacked you off on policies with Mitt Romney?

What do you disagree with him on?

Boy, I don't know how much time have we got here.

I announced, you know,

I was the one that stood alone in this race.

I entered last May, and I had the stated goal of unseating Mitt Romney, to primary him.

Of course, he made the decision late September not to seek re-election.

But, you know, I called out several things.

He made promises promises that he would balance the budget, that he would end illegal immigration, he claimed in his launch video five and a half years ago.

He said he would stop federal spending and overreach and that he would confirm conservative justices to the court.

Well, we know that's not his record.

It's just been shockingly 180 degrees from that.

So I think with respect to all of the above, I mean, the budget, we're going to hold the line.

I've made a contract with Utah that I am not going to vote for any omnibus spending bills.

I mean, we just, we don't have any time anymore.

We've got to get back to process.

We've got to break what Senator Lee has entitled the firm, where four individuals are back there behind closed doors and putting together thousand-page plus pages

of legislation and budget and throwing it on the members' desks and saying you've got 24 hours to pass this thing.

I mean, that has to stop.

I think it's unbecoming.

a self-governing nation to have four individuals do that and circumvent, you know, thereby all of our elected representatives.

Let's get back to process, get this budget under order, get back to pre-COVID spending levels, and let's close this border.

And let's take a wrecking ball to the regulatory state.

And with my business background and have experience with that,

those things would

really get us back on track and unleash this American economy.

So do you see yourself as a partner with Mike Lee?

Because that wasn't happening with Rodney.

It wasn't.

And that was so unfortunate.

I mean, we saw him cancel with respect to many of the major votes cancel

our great senator here, Mike Lee.

And that's what I indicated to folks from day one.

Hey, if you want another Mitt Romney, don't vote for me.

If you want another Mike Lee, I'm your guy.

I'm going to align myself rather consistently.

I pledged to join

the Freedom Caucus equivalent of the Senate, they called the Executive Steering Committee.

And Senator Tubberville, who came out recently and endorsed my campaign,

it basically laid out, look, we've got only 18 of 49 Republican senators right now that even

are part of this

committee, and we need to get to a majority within our own caucus.

We've got to have the majority there, and that way we ensure we do not elect the Mitch McConnell 2.0 as Senate majority leader, and we're able to advance an America First Agenda.

So what would you say to people that would say, yeah, I've heard this before, Mitt Romney is an example, I've heard this before, and then you guys get there and you don't do it.

Why are you different?

Why should we believe you, Trent?

Well,

I've had that question several times over the last 12 months on the campaign trail.

And I've told folks, look, talk to any Riverton resident where I'm mayor.

You outlined several things where I've stood up to the establishment within our own state.

During lockdowns, during COVID madness, where we said absolutely not.

We're going to protect people's constitutionality and their rights.

We said no to lockdowns, mandates of all kinds.

I've fought ESG in our community.

I've fought inappropriate materials in school and addressing school boards and making change there.

And so I've stood up time and time again, and not just in the way that I was the only one to challenge Mitt Romney and stand up to McConnell.

We called him out months ago.

And so I've got a consistent pattern of this.

It isn't something that's just new, but at the same time, I have garnered some endorsements across the country from national conservative voices and great people in elected office.

Donald Trump just endorsed you?

We just got the endorsement of President Trump.

How phenomenal.

We get that Saturday morning right before the convention.

And so that, I hope, is also a sign of I'm you are going to keep me accountable here in Utah, delegates and citizens.

But I've got a group back there that's going to have my back and they pledge to that we're going to support one another and we're going to finally get this done.

What's your wife's name?

How long have you been married?

Alicia.

My wife, Alicia, and I have been married for 17 years now.

We've got two incredible children.

I've got a 14-year-old son and 11-year-old daughter.

And I'm telling you, that's the reason why we're running.

When I announced my candidacy, Glenn, we were 32 trillion in debt.

Now, not even a year later, 35 trillion.

And estimates are we're going to hit 50 trillion by 2030.

So within the term of the Senate seat count being decided.

Yeah,

once we do that, it's a nightmare.

Yeah,

we're out of options, really.

We're almost out of options now.

So

what are the top two things that you say I will die on my sword for?

Well,

my top two is the border and budget.

I mean, we've got to get this border in control.

It's amazing to me.

I mean, I met with ICE in Salt Lake City.

They've got over 100,000, 150,000 active cases.

They're working here.

It's just so porous.

There are so many problems related to crime.

And just there, it's unbelievable to me the amount of impact that's having, not just financially, but otherwise here.

They're just wreaking, it's really wreaking havoc on this country.

We've got to get back to border wall, remain in Mexico, E-verify, cutting off benefits to illegal immigrants.

We've got to support what I believe will be President Trump's second term here in office.

Get back.

He has to get back into office.

And then the budget, getting back to process.

Since 1974, the Congressional Budget Act, we're supposed to have 12 appropriation subcommittees.

There's supposed to be ample opportunity for debate and amendment.

With the firm, that hasn't happened.

We haven't had a balanced budget since 2001.

It's insane.

Just by

getting us back to that process, I believe that we'll get our budget in order.

We'll stop digging the hole.

We have to do that right away.

Where are we in the life cycle of the Republic?

Oh.

Well, that's interesting you asked that question.

I mean, my big mailer that we put out to delegates said that, you know, great nations fall.

And it had a picture of us

and Rome, you know, side by side.

And

it just said great nations fall when they inflate their money, forget their values, and lose control of their borders.

And that's where we are right now.

We've got to get back.

I share your assessment that the runway is not very, we don't have a lot.

of time here left to course correct, but we do.

We've got to jump in there and we've got to elect people that are serious and are willing to, as you say, just die on the the sword for this.

So your local paper in Salt Lake, the Tribune, did an article on Christian nationalism and said that members of the Latter-day Saint community are more likely to be Christian nationalists.

How would you define what Christian nationalism is that they're talking about?

I don't know.

I try not to read the Tribune, quite frankly.

Okay, yeah,

it's likewise with that in the New York Times.

Yes.

Well, I think we may be referring to a belief in the Judeo-Christian values that founded this nation.

I believe it.

I believe that we were founded on biblical principles.

And, you know, we could spend a lot of time talking about that and reversion back to God.

And that's something we did here, even in my own city.

We reinstituted an invocation at the outset of every city council meeting.

That was one of my first order of business as mayor, because

we've got to get back to

those founding principles and recognize the hand of Providence here in the establishment of this nation and that we need his help in order to restore, have a restoration of those founding principles in this nation.

So I'd like to sit with you on Christian nationalism at some point.

What you described was the founding of our country and the way it's supposed to run.

Christian nationalism is entirely different, and the left is intentionally confusing people and asking people very, very vague questions like, are you a Christian nationalist?

And they answer it the way you do.

But that's not the intent.

This is a really dangerous thing because they're going to sweep all Christians in

to this at some point.

And there are those.

Christian nationalism

is a belief that this is a system that is wholly inadequate for a non-religious and

non-moral people, as the founder said.

Thus, we have to have a new system, and it needs to be based solely on Christianity, and it needs to be run church and state combined until we can

gather enough steam to be able to be responsible again.

I think it's an incredibly dangerous thing.

The only thing that

I am a Christian, and I believe in our founding documents, and I want to return to our founding documents.

One last question.

Your competitor John Curtis has for an eight-week primary

sprint, he has about $7 million.

Do you have the money and the staying power to beat that?

Because we want

a conservative in.

We don't want another Mitt Romney.

Well, absolutely, yes.

I mean, we will to date, you know, the last FEC report showed Curtis with about 1.3 million cash on hand.

We're trailing that at a half a million or so.

We, you know,

getting an endorsement from President Trump just a couple of days ago has, you know, we've already seen an incredible amount of people go to trentstags.com,

you know, either donate or open up to volunteer.

We've got thousands and thousands of donors.

And volunteers across the state, you know, taking the convention at 70%,

that's a real, you know, we can't underestimate the importance of the grassroots efforts.

But

my phone has been going off the hook here recently, and we've got so many commitments for people now that are donating, putting in fundraisers.

And these are true patriots.

These are people that recognize, oh, wow, we do have somebody that we can ensure replaces Mitt Romney with a true constitutional conservative and somebody that's going to go back there and partner, yoke up with Senator Lee and really

try to save this country.

I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that.

We're at a real critical juncture here.

It's there.

It's all hanging by a thread.

Trent, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

What was the website again?

TrentStaggs.com.

It's S-T-A-G-G-S, TrentStaggs.com.

Thank you very much, Trent.

I appreciate it.

Congratulations.

Quite a showing this weekend at the convention.

Quite a showing.

Thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

You bet.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

um

one thing i can tell you is uh from all everybody i speak to the guy is a rock solid constitutional conservative um and that's what we need and there's somebody else that is running who is also very conservative um

and i'd i'd take either of them uh honestly this is the first time i've had a chance to speak with trent uh and i think he i think he did well All right.

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Well, there's a few things that were in the news today that's in our newsletter.

You'll find them today.

Some pretty fascinating stuff is going on.

For instance, how much much do you think Ford Motors is losing on every electric vehicle they build and sell?

I mean, just like a

losing money?

The goal of a company is to profit.

Obviously, this is new technology, very exciting.

So

I would assume they're profiting off of each electric vehicle.

No, they're not.

They're losing money.

They're losing money.

So how much are they losing?

I mean,

$1,000 would be a lot to lose on every vehicle.

Not a little higher than that.

$5,000 to lose?

A little higher than that.

How about $130,000 on every EV?

That's what Ford is losing.

I don't even sell an EV that costs $130,000.

I know.

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How, this is insanity.

By the way, Sophia Bush, we all know, you know, that very famous actor and actress that we've all never heard of and don't really care about.

Sophia Bush, she has come out as queer.

And I don't know what that means anymore.

I used to think that was the L and the G, but it's not now.

So I don't know.

She may be having sex with aliens.

I don't know.

But she was very brave, very brave.

She came out at the White House correspondence dinner.

And that's so brave.

I mean, there was no one in the room that supported her on that.

Let's see.

Iraq, gay marriage.

Oh, in Europe, in Germany, in Europe, they're calling for a European and English caliphate now.

Those are the protesters over there.

So, you know, it could be worse.

We could look at our campuses and say, yeah, they're saying kill the Jews, but at least they're not calling for a caliphate here.

Yet

there's so much more.

We'll get to it again when we meet tomorrow.

Until then, God bless.

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