Ep 208 | 'Millions Will STARVE': Rancher Sounds Alarm on Global Food Agenda | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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Chad, thank you for coming in.

Thank you.

My pleasure.

I appreciate it.

Yeah.

You wrote an amazing letter

that

I think was so well thought out and talks about what people are facing.

I don't think the average person has any idea the war on food that's happening right now.

None.

None whatsoever.

And I first saw it because, you know, I say I'm a rancher.

I'm not.

Right.

I own a ranch and the cattle, and then I watch other people make it, make magic happen.

I get it.

But it is a, it's a hard life,

but it's a good life.

And

you understand how

you just understand life when you're when you're dependent on the land, on God.

And

the environmentalists that say, you know, we have to preserve this land.

There's no better conservationist than a rancher or a farmer.

That's right.

They know the soil.

That's right.

Talk about,

let's start in California.

Let's go back to, when was it, 2008?

I think, yeah, 2006, Proposition 2.

That passed.

Tell me what that did.

The way I understand that proposition was

63% of the voters voted in favor of

requiring cage size requirements for chickens and hogs and such as that.

And so that did go ahead and pass.

But we knew,

you know, we know that that wasn't.

the end intention.

The end intention was no animals at all.

And so they came back.

This movement, this anti-animal ideology that is

just sweeping across the earth right now.

Explain anti-animal ideology.

Well,

in order to

gain control of production and consumption, they have to have control of food production.

And the very ground level of food production is farmers and ranchers, right?

And what do farmers and ranchers have?

They have land.

Because it takes land and natural resources to grow our food.

And it doesn't matter if you're talking about pigs, cattle,

vegetable crops, whatever it is.

And so the anti-animal ideology is a freedom taker.

That's what it all amounts to is liberty and freedom.

And in order for them to have, and when I say them, I say, I mean the global elite to have control of all production and all consumption, they have to have control of that production.

They have to have control of the land.

And so that is where the anti-animal ideology starts.

But

it tends to run downhill into

individual ideologies.

You know, there are ideologues out there who don't believe in eating meat.

They believe that cattle are harming the land.

They don't like that.

And so the global elite have used those ideologues as foot soldiers for their ultimate goal, which is total control.

Right.

Global warming being used.

Back then it was global warming.

When I was growing up, it was acid rain.

Okay.

When I was growing up, it was global cooling.

Okay, global cooling, and then acid rain.

Now

then we had global warming.

And they realized that the majority of the world's population wasn't going for it, so they changed it to climate change.

And

this movement has been in the works for generations,

but

it's increasing because of

our ability to learn, you know, the internet.

You know, the Bible talks about all of this and the days that we live in.

So

it's gaining like fire in certain ways.

And I see Americans starting to wake up and say, you know, there's something not right about this.

And so.

So the hour is growing late.

Yes.

It's really late.

It's very late.

So California just passed Proposition 12.

Right.

And if I'm not mistaken, didn't Massachusetts also pass something like this?

I don't know about Massachusetts, but they tried it in Oregon.

They tried it in Colorado with the Paws Act that would make

any kind of

action.

If I needed to palpate a cow or pull a Keff out, they made that a felony.

They tried to make that a felony.

It did not pass in Colorado, and I can speak for Colorado because that's where I'm from originally,

only because we are a

one-ballot initiative state.

So we can only have one question on the ballot.

And they had two, and so it did not get out of committee.

But they're coming back, and they're coming back with a vengeance through all states.

So you said in 2006 we knew that this wasn't going to end.

Sure.

Explain what California just did and why it affects all of us.

Well,

with the passage of Prop 12,

that would inhibit importers into California.

That would regulate the people who sell into California under the same rules, which would eliminate

a lot of transactions that they need.

Right.

So

what they said was the pens have to be even bigger.

Yeah.

And

they want the hogs to be able to turn around.

And that apparently the ranchers are saying that's dangerous for the pigs.

That's right.

But

everything has to be augmented.

It would cost thousands of dollars for anybody to take these rules on.

My first reaction was, good.

Then let California live in California and no rancher should be changing anything.

Let them feel the full ramification of this.

That's right.

But then what do the ranchers do?

That's exactly right.

Right.

And you you know, California is one of our largest agricultural production states in the Union.

In many ways, they are.

And there are vast ranches out there that

this affects all of them, you know, all production.

You know, the beef cattle industry is the last bastion of freedom.

And so their ultimate goal is to get to us.

And that's how they're doing it is on the lower levels through, you know, chicken, pork, and those other

means of production.

When you say this is the last bastion of freedom, what do you mean by that?

Well, as of right now,

every center of production in agriculture is vertically integrated.

We've lost the hogs.

China owns the hog production in the United States.

We've lost the chicken and poultry sectors to corporate control.

We are importing 74%.

74% of our lamb is imported into the United States.

We used to have 56 million head of lamb

three generations ago in the United States.

Now we have 5 million head.

Wow.

Yeah.

Now, wait a minute.

And that is because of regulation, just because you can't make a living at it?

What is it?

Well,

there's a plethora of reasons that come into it.

You know uh droughts may have an effect but the overall uh mechanism here that we've seen come into play is uh corporate control they and and that's what we're really seeing as a symptom of what's going on in california this corporate control has

has

emboldened that their power has become emboldened and so the symptom of it is hey you're going to produce as we see fit or you're going to get out of the game And see, it's a very convoluted and complex issue because on one side, you have these ideologues, and then you have on the other side, you have this takeover of corporate control in the United States.

And when they come together, it's just like a snowball headed for hell.

And it gets very complex.

These issues that we're talking about are so complex.

And I don't understand them all.

I understand my perspective of it.

I think the Lord has given me a good sense of where it came from and where it's going.

It's not something that I set out to learn, but my family was affected by a land taking in 1999, and it opened my eyes to a corrupt system.

And I was just a young man then, and that's how I came to

be an advocate for freedom and liberty because what they did to my family was

absolutely everything opposite.

So

I didn't understand until I started selling cattle.

I didn't understand

what a mafia system

it really is.

I mean,

the farmer, the rancher is held at gunpoint by

three or four companies, four companies, and they

process

almost all of the meat.

And so if you're not selling to them,

where are you going to process that?

Well,

that's the question, right?

That's the question.

And so

I have been in, I mean, the only way to become wealthy in ranching or farming today is to start wealthy.

You know, and then that, you know, in time that'll go away.

That's right.

But there's there, we're to the point, I think it was this year or last year, where it costs more to feed the animal than they were willing to sell or buy at.

Absolutely.

And, you know, there has to be some common sense.

And the prices keep going down.

And one year it'll be, oh, well, it was a drought.

Oh, well, this was happening.

Oh, well, this was happening.

It never seems to go up and have really good years, several in a row.

It's all down.

And it's, I, you can't convince me there's no collusion there.

No, there's total collusion.

And I'll tell you this.

The global elite,

in fact, an individual from the World Wildlife Fund said, we have to use collusion in order to implement this agenda.

And so they are using the corporate Packers, you know,

and the corporate Packers are volunteering for it, obviously.

There's

four main Packers control 85% of the supply chain in the beef industry today.

Two of them are foreign-owned, National Marfrig and JBS.

Why would we do this?

Why do we do this?

Well, it all it all comes down to that complexity that i talk about that is to um weaken a nation and you're seeing it all over

so there is a movement to get

regional and local packers but it's my understanding that is really expensive and hard to build and and you don't build them overnight but that's a bunch of ranchers getting together and saying,

we've got to cut this beef ourselves.

We've got to package this beef ourselves because we can't.

We're getting robbed and being driven out of business by these giant companies.

Yes, sir.

If there was anything that COVID did positive for us, it opened Americans' eyes to the instability of concentration.

Yes.

And,

you know, since then, the farm-to-table movement has been enormous.

It's been a blessing.

It's been a blessing for my family.

It's been a blessing for millions of other families, not only producers, but consumers, because they say, hey, we don't trust this system.

How can we, how do we come together with the consumer?

And that has taken place.

And there is, the USDA has come out with programs since COVID that allows for regional and local expansion of our meat packing supply.

And I do think that we have

been more competitive against the big four Packers than ever before.

Now,

we should break those packers up we have law antitrust laws my gosh you know the clayton antitrust act the sherman antitrust the fact packers and stockyards the fact that those packers i think two of them are the leading people on fake meat

should tell you everything you need to know just last week tyson uh you know announced a partnership with fake meat you know and they are huge investors the problem with you know as i say

it was was a gift.

It was something that COVID gave us was that expansion of those local and regional packing facilities and the ability for us to take our product and sell it locally.

But now they're coming in and saying, oh, we got the EPA.

We've got to go by their environmental regulations.

So now there's local and regional packing companies that are going to have to spend millions and millions on wastewater treatment plants in their own organization.

And so what does that do?

That puts us back out on the the street and more dependent.

So we have to get on top of all of these things.

There's a lot of legislation that's

coming and coming forward.

You know,

it's a farm bill year, you know, hopefully.

And

there are good things happening, but it's because of a small group of people saying we cannot, our country cannot sustain, and I hate that word, but that's a word, it's been stolen from us, but we cannot sustain what's going on.

We have to be able to feed our own country and others to have food security, which is national security.

It is.

I mean, people don't understand how,

you know, we think of ourselves as the breadbasket of the world.

We're not.

We're not.

And that's by choice.

We could be.

We could be.

Absolutely.

But it's by choice.

And I don't think people understand.

You know, I said said this a few years back when I first came on with, you know,

ESG and the World Economic Forum and what they were talking about in Agenda 21 at first.

Now it's Agenda 2030.

Millions of people will starve to death all over the world.

I mean, it will be the worst famine in human history if these people get their way.

Overnight.

Yes.

Overnight.

Because what people don't realize is there are so many facets to to getting this food across the country you know here we have an attack on our energy supply what does energy do for for americans everything

you look around this room right here we cannot live without oil every single thing uh we cannot live without those truckers Those truckers are a huge part of our operations.

They shut down for one day.

I'm telling you, store shelves go empty overnight.

We have no idea.

They are restocked.

I think it's, what is it?

The average is three to five times a day.

They're restocked.

I mean, people don't understand how fast this can go away.

During COVID, I

went up to my local bigger grocery store and they have a beautiful meat aisle.

And

it was empty.

And I said, well, how do you, what do you guys do here?

And they said, well, we stock it at 6.30 in the morning and everybody's figured out that the shelves are going to be empty by 7.30.

It's empty.

They did it once a day.

Unbelievable.

It was unreal in America that we would have during that COVID issue that we would have people in breadlines.

Yeah.

You know, in America, that we would be

destroying our harvests in America, the land of plenty.

You know, and that's, that's something that kind of got me going.

And I was like, this isn't the way it's supposed to be in our country.

And this is all coming from elites.

85% of elites and super elites.

Super elites are ones that went to Ivy League colleges

and have a doctorate.

The just the elite are making $150,000 a year.

They've gone to college, have one

postgraduate degree,

and they're involved in the companies or countries.

They just did a poll on those people.

80 plus percent say that Americans should not be allowed to eat beef or meat of any kind.

85%.

I think people would be shocked to know that our world, and I don't think they actually mean it.

Otherwise, why is Zuckerberg building a ranch where he's feeding his cows macadamia nuts?

Well, we have to remember what Klaus Schwab said in 2023 at Davost, and he said, you will enjoy meat as a treat,

but not for sustenance.

And we know beef is really the only animal that can provide total and 100% sustenance to human life.

These elite that you talk about, you know, I hearken back to my dad.

He's gone now.

But he was a self-made rancher, started with nothing.

And I can say this because this is our business, but we did it with cattle and it was hard.

And we're not done doing it.

But he always, on his deathbed, we have an old bunkhouse sitting out there

that was the original homestead house.

And in the last days of his life, I'd take him, wheel him over there.

And

I said, Dad, what are we going to do?

And he says, son, we'll never change America until they sit in the dark, cold and hungry.

And that's the truth.

And he came from a place of suffering, so he understood that.

But I think about these elites that you talk about, and

I think about them at the same time.

I think about all those people in those temperatures pulling Kevs and breaking ice up in the northern tier last week.

I think about somebody on the side of a road with a flat tire.

Those elites couldn't even change a flat tire.

They couldn't do the most simple things that require real life.

And here they are demanding and dictating how we're going to produce and consume, not only in America, but across the world.

But what you're seeing in Germany, in Ireland, in the Netherlands, that's coming here.

We're all in the world.

People don't understand.

Netherlands, that is the breadbasket of Europe.

The biggest exporter of agricultural products.

So you shut the Netherlands down and Europe begins to starve.

But they're doing it in country after country and they are ahead of us.

And most people in America see these farmers and these radical farmers, as they're called.

They're not radical.

What are they asking for?

Under the UN

rules,

they regionally and incrementally push that ideology.

And that's what you're seeing happen in the European Union.

And they use it in the African Union.

The only reason they haven't started it here, and they have started it, but they haven't won, and we're not going to let them win, is because the American cattle rancher owns his land.

We have a Constitution that guarantees property rights, and that is the foundation of everything.

That's the only thing that's going to protect us.

Because that's what's happening in the Netherlands.

That's exactly that farmland.

We're taking that farmland away.

And

we have to get on board and understand that

our founding fathers and their creation of this living document we call the Constitution of the United States is the only way we save this country.

And we save it through private property.

And private property, it it doesn't have to be land.

It might be your coat.

It might be a gun.

It may be, it's whatever allows you to put food on your table.

That is the foundation of what we're talking about.

All of these issues that we talk about and it doesn't matter if it's in the ag industry, the beef industry, oil, energy, all of it, everything we talk about goes back to liberty and freedom.

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Talk to me about

NACs,

national asset corporations.

Thankfully,

it has been withdrawn.

The application has been withdrawn by the New York Stock Exchange, but I don't think that's the end of it because this is the loss of land and rights.

Yes.

So talk about what that is.

The natural asset companies,

the

New York Stock Exchange.

petitioned the Securities and Exchange Commission to create what they call natural asset companies.

And they are so convoluted and so complex, it's hard to understand.

But the basic is, is they would take control of our natural outputs.

In other words, they would monetize and quantify our air, our water, anything productively tied to the land.

And so at the end of it, in the beginning of it, it would affect really state and federally owned lands,

those lands that have been given over to conservation easements.

Private lands,

you could enroll your private land into it.

But the gust of it is,

the end result is they take control of the management of those natural outputs, and then they can dictate how you produce on that land.

Right.

You could be a cattle rancher, you know, and cattle farts, apparently, the bane of everybody's existence.

And

they can come buy the air rights

and say, you are polluting too much we need clean air here and basically shut you down that's right because they they have

under in under this rule

the rules of management would have to be follow sustainability right and so what is sustainability it's what I've been talking about all day here it's consumption and production control that's all it is you know when when this is a global move to take possession of our lands these are land grabs and it didn't start here I mean, we have national heritage areas.

My, you know, I was part of an organization that defeated one in southeast Colorado in 2014.

And the only reason we knew about it, Glenn, was it was leaked from the National Park Service to an individual.

They weren't going to tell us about that.

You have conservation easements that people are going into.

Farmers and ranchers are going into under the guise of protecting their future rights on these lands.

That's not what it's doing.

It's giving their future rights away.

They're the last owners that have productive principles, not the future.

I know.

I'm afraid.

I live in the middle of a national forest.

I have 1,100 acres

in the middle of a national forest.

So I have a state road that goes through it, so I can get to it.

But I am terrified that that land is not going to be mine.

Absolutely.

And I'll tell you what, under some

conservation easement contracts,

my neighbor can put a conservation easement on his ranch, and under that contract, it can say no oil wells pumping in the view shed.

Well, what does that do to you?

It ends up kicking you out because nobody's going to come drill for oil on your land.

You know, they make all of these very corrupt principles and they hide them in

these contracts.

And I, you know, in my in my country where I grew up, southeast Colorado,

all ranch country, thousands of farmers and ranchers put their land in easements.

And my dad was like, don't, don't do it.

You're dictating from the grave.

Yes.

You know, it is so wrong.

When you say,

we are putting this land in conservation from here on out,

you're going to be long dead.

You have no right to do anything.

You shouldn't destroy it and you can't lock it up.

You can do neither of those.

It's in the name of the dollar, though.

That's the problem.

I can conserve my land and I can do that

as we pass it down from generation to generation.

I don't need somebody paying me to do that.

Correct.

I can do that.

So when we have all of these cattlemen and women, I know going across Florida, everybody's talking about how many people are moving in and we got to put these lands in conservation easements.

Dab gum, do it yourself.

Don't take the the dollar to dictate from the grave that nobody can do anything with this land down the road.

You can do that yourself.

You don't need the money.

You're there.

And so

here we are talking about conservation easements.

You know, we have the American Prairie Reserve in Montana

totally controlled by the World Wildlife Fund.

The World Wildlife Fund is interested in management of the natural asset companies.

You see how this is all interwoven and intertwined?

These

non-governmental environmental or extreme environmental organizations are

so heavily funded that we can't compete.

And now you have what they call public-private partnerships.

They're the most dangerous thing on earth.

It's fascism.

It's fascism.

It's any ism that you want to put.

It is total fascism.

And that's, you know, I know people think I'm a little bit crazy, and I'm fine with that.

If I can save my country and let my son taste the taste of liberty, taste the taste of freedom, I'm okay.

Because what's happening is two plus two.

You don't have to be a smart man.

I'm not a smart man.

I saw what was happening back in 1999.

And then we come in in about 2010 and they start talking about the global roundtable for sustainable beef.

And when I hear global,

And I knew that they were stealing the word sustainable, I knew we were in trouble.

And I'm telling you,

our

trade organizations have signed on to these sustainability models.

And they did it without knowing what true sustainability meant.

There's only one sustainer, and it's not the global elite.

We are in trouble.

And I'm telling you, they're pushing

since the

delineation of the natural asset companies.

They're coming out stronger than ever.

They're pushing for global control through sustainable development, and it's not good.

What should the average person do?

We can do a lot of things.

Number one, we can

dedicate ourselves to the U.S.

Constitution, that living document.

We have to learn it.

Number one thing.

We have to do it, Glenn.

We have to do it.

We can support legislation by our state and national leaders that are actually on our side.

Most of them are not on our side, even the Republicans.

No.

I say Republicans, Democrats, wings on the same bird, but there are a few Republicans out there that treasure liberty.

So we have to support them and we have to help them.

We have to run for our local governments because they've infiltrated, cleared out.

These extremists, these ideologues, they're patient.

They're so patient.

And they've infiltrated clear to the lowest levels.

They're in our churches now.

You're seeing it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

You're seeing it.

They're absolutely everywhere.

And you're right.

They're patient.

I mean,

it's it's all about incrementalism.

Yeah.

And all of a sudden, if you're not paying attention, you find yourself going, wait a minute, when did that change?

What happened here?

Exactly.

And

they're now so bold, talking in Washington, Idaho, and Oregon about taking five dams down.

What happens to the farmer and the rancher in high desert

with no water?

Yep.

It's an unbelievable movement, but we can support local.

We can buy local American-made products, and that's why it's so important for us to re-implement mandatory country of origin labeling.

Everything we buy in the United States has a country of origin label on it, except beef and pork.

The old flag means nothing.

Product of USA, that means nothing.

Means nothing.

That means cut in the USA.

They can repackage it.

They can cut it, put it in another box, and it becomes a product of the USA.

It is so deceptive because, you know, I have a lot of friends across this country, and most of them are cattle ranchers, and we're not on the same side as these issues.

I'm not a loyalist.

I want to do what's right for the future.

What do you mean?

Well,

a lot of people are

loyal to their trade organizations.

And you can see that here in Texas, big.

You know, there's one of the largest trade organizations here is a great organization that provides a lot of good things, but they've signed on to the sustainability model.

But

their members don't understand that model.

But they're loyal.

And I call them organization loyalists.

And I'm not that.

I don't want to be that.

I want to be an independent producer.

And I want to be.

We all should be independent.

I mean,

you know, I was a Republican Republican and not a Republican.

I'll vote for Republicans,

but I'm not loyal to the Institution.

That's the problem.

Agreed.

We need to be loyal to the Constitution

and to God.

Yes.

Those two things, that's where you're loyal to God.

It's not in the Constitution because freedom comes from God.

Yes.

Our true freedom comes from God.

And,

you know,

I don't...

I'm not against those people.

I'm just saying wake up because those things that

you are voting for that you don't understand are going to put you out of business.

See, tyrants have no loyalty, Glenn.

At the end, one tyrant's going to kill the other.

They don't care.

And so this loyalty movement of loyalty amongst these people to depend on trade organizations

to

keep them in business is going to come back to bite everybody.

Because they are being, it's a pay-to-play system, Glenn.

It's a pay-to-play system.

And the global corporations are paying these trade organizations right now.

USDA, United States Department of Agriculture,

the,

I'm trying to think of what program that is,

is,

I can't think of it right now.

That's right.

Anyway,

they partnered up with all of these trade organizations and media outlets.

Farm Journal.

USDA pays Farm Journal $40 million to promote the

Carbon Solutions Program.

Oh my gosh.

They paid ADM, Archer Daniel Midland, the largest

ag company in the world, $90 million.

South Dakota State University, $50 million.

What are they going to do?

They're pushing that ideology.

They're pushing that sustainable development control mechanism that teaches our kids in the university system.

It's done a disservice to us.

I will tell you that when I was reading the World Economic Forum's farming and food distribution plan,

it's one of the most arrogant things I've ever seen, that by 2030, we will completely redesign from seed to fork

the entire food production industry.

And I thought,

that took us hundreds of thousands of years to perfect.

And to get it this close, it's not perfect, but to get it this close.

And you're just going to arrogantly, a bunch of eggheads, say, you know what, we're going to do it completely different.

That's nuts.

Who else did that?

Mao?

Hitler?

Cuba?

They all did it.

You got caught with seeds?

They killed you.

You get caught growing a garden in Cuba, they killed you on the spot.

We are on the cusp of something very dangerous if Americans don't wake up.

And I don't say that to scare people because the truth is,

you know, it's a day-by-day.

I say it because independent production, independent

consumption, independent thought is so important, especially right now.

Tell me about the mRNA vaccine Bill Gates wants to give all the cattle.

Well, I don't have a lot of knowledge on that.

I know there was one state that

had

a bill presented that

would

try to stop that.

We do not do that in the beef industry, cattle industry now.

I'm not saying the technology is not there.

I don't know.

That's not my area of expertise.

But we don't do that.

Now,

somebody asked me here a while back about vaccines in cattle.

I will tell you from my knowledge and my experience, and I'm what they call I'm the middleman.

I'm a stalker guy.

So there's several segments.

There's a cow-calf segment, stalker segment, feedlot segment.

I'm the guy in the middle.

And there are vaccines that we have to give our cattle.

You know, one of those is blackleg.

That's a spore in the ground that can kill cattle quickly.

We have to do that.

Some of these other vaccines, I don't do.

I don't participate in any of it.

I don't know where the mRNA stuff is going.

I think the technology is there.

We know the technology is there.

But it is dangerous.

It's very dangerous.

And, you know, is it a part of the

ESG,

the radio, you know, RFID?

They're trying to implement that without the will of the people right now in the beef industry, RFID, ESG,

where all these cattle have to have an RFID tag to travel interstate.

You have to register your premises.

Who else did that?

You know?

And so there's so many complex issues that are interwoven into this diabolical web of sustainability.

And

it's dangerous.

It's very dangerous.

And you know what?

It's a freedom killer.

They're all freedom killers.

And I like to tout that I'm a freedom maker, not a freedom taker.

I've never served my country in the military.

So I guess this is kind of my way of serving my country

to make sure that, you know, we can produce independently

under the guise of our own thought, you know, not under independent production or not under the sustainable development.

You know, people don't know under the global roundtable for sustainable beef, you have to produce as they see fit or you get out of the market.

That happened in Brazil under the global roundtable for sustainable soy.

What does that mean?

What did they do in brazil

so they sell all of their soy to the european union and in order to be able to sell you had to be a member or a part of the global roundtable for sustainable soy which means that you uh produce that soy as they tell you to produce they're pushing the same thing in the united states and in under the global and u.s roundtables for sustainable beef You get on board or you get out of the market.

Now, here in the United States, they say, oh, Shad, you're wrong.

That's a voluntary program.

Well, I'll tell you, it's voluntary until it's not.

And those programs have already been employed in the Netherlands, in Germany, across the European Union.

And you're seeing what's happening.

These farmers are revolting.

Their freedom has been taken.

What little freedom they had.

They weren't like the United States.

So we have to get on top of this and we have to wake our friends up.

And it's all interwoven into the property rights discussion.

It's all interwoven into the free market capitalistic system, into the Constitution, into liberty.

We have to wake up, you know.

What is the first,

what are we going to see, because they're ahead of us in Europe.

What are we going to start seeing?

Or has it been held together enough to not make that big of an impact yet?

I think that we're immediately going to start seeing those production regulatory mechanisms come about.

And they're starting through the RFID,

ESG,

in the beef cattle.

You know,

there are a lot of cattle traded interstate in the United States, millions upon millions of head.

And once you start

putting that data information out there,

I think we're in trouble.

Why?

Why tagging them?

My dog.

Well, they're saying it's for disease traceability.

But we have an adequate system that traces disease.

If they were worried about disease traceability, why did we move our disease laboratory from Plum Island to Manhattan, Kansas, in the middle of cattle country?

We did that.

Foot and Mouth has escaped that that laboratory off of Plum Island off the coast of New York before it dissipated out into the ocean.

But we've moved that laboratory that contains all these deadly diseases into Manhattan, Kansas, right in the middle of beef cattle country.

Are you kidding me?

It's not, all of this is not

if,

but when.

They have to take control somehow.

And that's what this is.

Data mining, all of it.

Glenn, it's all so convoluted and confusing.

I hate to think about it.

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Let's talk about labeling here for a second.

Grass-fed.

I raise grass-fed beef.

Me too.

But then I sell them, and I know they go to a feed lot.

Okay.

And now they're eating grain and whatever.

And

it can still say grass-fed beef, even though at the end they got big and fat and everything off of corn.

Yeah.

So the label means nothing.

It's grass-finished

beef, right?

That you have to look for.

You know, I'm not an expert in that area.

I know what I do is

I actually finished mine on grass.

Southeast Colorado is, you're able to do that because our grass is so powerful.

But

as far as the labeling of grass-fed, you know, there are supposed

mechanisms in there

through the organic movement that would supposed to guarantee that.

But, you know, I question that because isn't corn a grass?

Yeah, it is.

So can you, you know, I don't know.

I don't know.

What I'm getting to is like the made in USA, that label, product of USA, that label means nothing.

Nothing.

Does organic mean anything?

What does organic mean?

Well, I mean, if you ask me, the corn is growing out of the ground.

We finish them on corn.

That's organic to me.

Right.

You know?

Right.

So I don't, so I don't know.

I'm not an expert in that.

So there's a new one, low-carbon meat.

What is that?

That is what I'm talking about through this carbon credit.

system that the USDA is coming out with.

And I have ranchers that are neighbors that are participating in a program, a low-carbon credit program, through the USDA getting paid

to

monitor

their carbon emissions.

And now, how do you do that?

I don't know.

To me, it's a lot like going down to 7-Eleven and airing up your tire for 25 cents, paying 25 cents for air in your tire.

I mean, it's very confusing to me.

We have to have cattle

to create this.

This carbon is good, right?

Yeah, carbon is what makes everything grow.

You know,

we have to have They, they, they say it like it's a bad thing.

And

under, you know, proper regenerative practices, we know that we're

better than carbon neutral.

Right.

We're carbon beings.

Yes.

We're carbon beings.

I wish I was a scientist, but I'm not, Glenn.

I don't wish I was a scientist if I had to play the game that they're playing now.

I know my grandfather,

he was a farmer.

And

I remember him saying,

all these

elite scientists and everybody with all of their college degrees come in.

They don't have any idea what it's like to stick their hand in the dirt.

And they are

everything they're preaching is wrong.

They have no stake in the game.

Yeah.

They have no stake in the game.

And

if they were put under pressure, they wouldn't win.

They could not, you know, put some put some of these guys out on the land and say, hey, in six months, bring us a crop.

They couldn't do it.

Oh, no.

They couldn't begin to do it.

I think I hearken back to my great-great-grandmother who was here in Texas.

And her husband died the same week as her eight-year-old daughter.

And on his deathbed, he said, take those boys and go to Colorado.

And you know what she did, Glenn?

She took seven boys and a girl, and she went to Colorado, and she dug her own, her house.

She dug it out of the ground, a dugout, covered it with sod.

She dug their own well.

You think these people could do this now?

No.

Everything is so easy for us.

We've had the best life.

But now we have people who want to take that from us.

Tell me about in Colorado.

I was looking at a piece of land in Colorado.

It was a little town, actually.

And

they said,

you have to be really careful here because you don't own the water.

And I said,

well, what does that mean?

And they said, well, in Colorado, even the water that falls as rain

belongs to the state.

It belongs to somebody.

Somebody does.

Not you.

But not me.

I can remember when my dad.

And this gets into some very convoluted and confusing stuff, but I can remember my dad told me in the 1950s, he says i remember when they came and stole our water and i said what did that mean dad and he said well the we owned our water under the ground until the 1950s and the state come in and said no that's not your water you have the right to use it but it's not yours they have what they call preemptive rights and so some of these rights go back to the 1870s those people still own their water rights

but over the years the need for water in colorado has increased because of the Front Range increase in population.

And so in my county, Crowley County, Colorado,

they came in three different times and

Aurora, Colorado, Denver, bought the water from the farmers that owned it from those preemptive rights.

So now when you sell your water rights, it's worth a fortune.

That water must go to feed the people, right?

So no longer, our county is no longer irrigated.

It is now dry land and there's no farming left and it became one of the poorest counties in the nation because we sold our water.

Some of the older generations kept that water.

But any water that is produced in Colorado that flows, flows out of the state belongs to somebody or somebody else.

Kansas came in and sued Colorado for their water down the Arkansas and I believe, and

the Republican rivers, I think that was Nebraska.

And

Kansas won that lawsuit.

So now any well that is irrigation well must be augmented.

They must keep track of that, is paid for.

You know, every, you cannot, you cannot capture your water in the big cities off of your houses.

That water must go into a tributary because it is owned by someone else.

Water law in Colorado is, if I was a young person, would be a great thing to get into.

It is enormous.

And I grew up and my dad told us, he said, kids, water's worth more than oil and gold.

He pounded that into

into our heads, and it is.

And luckily, we have good water where we're at, but we don't have any water rights.

We just have the right to use it.

I was walking on a golf course once with a, I don't play golf, and neither did he.

We were just on a golf course.

We were walking on this golf course, and

he's a multi-billionaire, and he said, Glenn,

buy water.

Yep.

That's all he said.

And then he turned around and started walking.

I stood there for a second.

I'm like, I don't know what that means exactly.

And I walk, I run back up next to his side as he's walking.

I said, why do I feel like somebody who was walking a golf course with Rockefeller Sr.

and he said, buy oil.

And he said, because it is the next oil.

But he said something interesting to me.

He said, do not be the owner of the water.

He said, You will be an oil company.

You will be demonized and torn apart.

He said, you need to be somebody who is searching for water or purifying water.

He said, otherwise, you might as well be an oil guy.

Yeah.

I can see that.

Yeah, water is a huge thing in Colorado.

And, you know, here we go again under the America the Beautiful

Executive Order 14008, the 30 by 30.

You know, Biden's America the Beautiful plan is supposed to take control of all conserve 30% of the land and water and water

by 2030 across the United States, only to be followed up by the UN 50 by 50 resolution.

You know, take

conserve 50% of the water, the world's water and lands by 2050.

Totally changes us.

Totally.

Let me ask you this.

I was at another friend who has

probably 5,000 head of buffalo.

Wow.

And

it's an amazing sight.

It's an amazing sight.

And we were talking and you could see

that one doesn't really look like bison.

That one looks more like a cow.

A cattle?

Yeah.

And it's all from the inbreeding of, you know.

And I said,

where do you get the pure buffalo to start with?

And he said, You don't.

And I said, why not?

And he said, the government is the only owner of all bison, pure

bison.

I did not know this.

Yeah.

And he said, they're Yellowstone.

And when they have to thin the herd, we'd take them.

We'd take them.

So

we could bring that animal back.

Back.

And they won't do them.

He said.

Destroy them.

They'll destroy them before they'll ever get rid of them.

And to me, that said something about,

and then living next to them as a BLN, BLM.

They're not good conservationists.

They're not good landowners.

They're not good for

animals.

No, they're not.

They're absolutely not.

They're fork-tongued.

That's no surprise to me.

I know that if you,

you know, those management skills of those people I've often questioned because that's where really my advocacy started and

was watching them try to manage my family.

What happened to your family?

Well,

I grew up on a ranch in southeast Colorado.

We owned a ranch, but we also leased a big ranch.

And

back in 1992, my dad decided he would buy that ranch.

And

so

within that parameter, it was

fairly large.

There was 12,000 acres that belonged to the state of Colorado.

And it was in 160s, 320s, but it was unfenced.

And so the state came to us and said, hey, if you're going to buy this ranch we want our 12 000 acres in one block and we want that block here and it happened to be over the main water source and so it stopped the sale of the ranch and

um

they knew that we kind of how could they just declare that that's where they want yeah that's the question and that's exactly why my dad said ah we're we're gonna kind of back out of this but to make a long story short in two weeks they owned the ranch the state of Colorado.

They're not supposed to be in the ranching business.

They're not supposed to be competing.

And now they own multiple ranches in partnerships with organizations like the Nature Conservancy.

And that has spread wildly in Colorado.

And

so that's what happened to me.

That's what happened was that land taking.

And now we've got another

deal coming on that, you know, Colorado passed through legislation that we needed to be 100% renewable by 2030.

So now we have companies, mega companies like XL Power coming in and saying, hey, we're going to put this power line across your ranch and we're going to pay you this much.

You don't have the right to negotiate with us.

We're going to take this land this way.

Here's what we're going to pay you.

And you've got to keep your mouth shut.

That's what's happening to me right now on our ranch in Colorado.

And no negotiations.

I said, they offered us a dollar amount a year ago.

And I said, no, no, thank you.

We've been here for four generations.

We've put the time and effort into our ranch.

We've put the time and effort back into our local community, which is most important for us,

the youth of our community.

And you're going to tell us that if we don't take what you offer, we're going to end it domain you.

That's what they told us.

And that's what they're trying to do.

No negotiations.

Is this even America?

Is this even America?

Not anymore.

Not anymore.

My dad is rolling in his grave over a lot of things.

And I, you know, there was a lot of things that happened over the last, since he's died in our country that probably would have killed him.

You know, and it's all interwoven, Glenn.

That's what you have to understand is it is all

that

one-way ticket.

It's funny because people think this is about Biden and Trump or Democrats and the Republicans.

No.

It's not.

No.

It's the elites against the people.

Even the socialists and the Marxists are going to be very surprised.

They're not going to be the winner in the end.

No.

It's the giant corporations in bed with the government.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And that pay-to-play system, that's why I always said, which I never will, run for legislation.

The first thing I would do is end lobbying.

This lobbying power.

is so enormous in the United States.

We can't do that.

We cannot keep a free country under

pay-to-play.

Cannot do that.

We have to end that.

These corporations that have taken total control of everything below them, you know,

it's a real problem.

We better get on top of it.

But I think, you know, there was one individual here a while back that said fundamental change.

And here we are.

Yeah.

Maybe he didn't have enough time in office to produce that fundamental change, but it's being done now.

It's being done now.

If we don't stop at this election,

the world will be just a very different ⁇ it's not just America.

It's the whole world.

It's the whole world.

Whole world.

We know that.

We know that, you know,

we know what the Bible says.

And guess what?

Our enemies know what the Bible says.

And so

they have to move fast.

And they are moving fast, Glenn.

Yeah, I know that.

You know,

it's a crazy place.

The only thing I worry about is my kid.

You know, what is going to happen to my kid?

I harken back to those images that we see on

TV and in movies with them loading them on cattle cars.

And it comes to my mind often.

My son is an only child.

Well, he's got an older sister, but she's...

30 years old.

She's out of the house.

So we're raising him as an only child.

And

if I was to die, you know, what would he do?

What would he do?

That's why we have to ensure this protection that the Constitution gives us for individual liberty.

We have to do it.

Whatever it takes, we got to do it.

These guys down at the border, as far as I'm concerned, they're heroes today.

They're saying, no, we're not going to do this.

We're not going to destroy our country.

And that's a whole different convoluted mess, but it's all part of it.

It's all part of the movement to destroy America.

You know, we have to be

we have to carry out our fiduciary duties as citizens.

Yeah.

We have to, Glee.

Yeah.

And do it in a way

we can be angry, as the scriptures say.

We can be angry, but we cannot sin in our anger.

There is righteousness in our anger.

Yeah.

We can be angry and we can

protect our families as we need to protect them.

But we want to,

if we're going to save America, and that's what ultimately we're trying to do, is save our country, the greatest country on earth, the beacon on the hill, it is everything they say it is.

And the blood shed

that these men and women,

millions of men and women spilled their blood, so we could sit here and talk like this without reprise, reprise, hopefully.

You know?

Yeah.

It's a big deal.

The good news is

we know how it ends.

Yes.

I don't know what it's going to be like to get to that part, but evil is always conquered.

And

these rights are...

They belong to him, not to us.

And he's just not going to...

I mean, we may lose them, but they'll be found by others someplace else, and freedom will not go away.

It just won't.

Yeah.

Chad, thank you so much.

Well, I hope you enjoyed it, and I sure enjoyed the conversation.

Yeah, me too.

I'm very thankful for you and for your work.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

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