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Well, hello, America.

Let me share some good news with you.

While we were out and about doing our own thing, yesterday, half of U.S.

governors have sided with Texas in the borders

dispute with Biden.

Now,

the, I think it's the Department of Homeland Security, one of these agencies, have given Texas 24 hours to, I don't know, to do what,

and so they'll make their decisions.

People are now saying that

we've got to nationalize the National Guard, which would give control to the president and not to the governor.

And people are starting to say, you know what?

Civil war.

We could Balkanize the country.

Yeah, have you been to the Balkans?

You don't want to do that.

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A lot of it is good news if we keep our heads about us.

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I could show up

you know a wife beater t-shirt even though that's wrong but the t-shirt uh and then just a robe and slippers and wouldn't that be great this is how this is progressing.

This is the panec arc.

Can I tell you something?

This is how America is progressing.

We're just like, you know, can you imagine

Fetasy?

Bridget Fetesy.

Oh, yeah.

She wrote something for the spectator about, you know, a civil war.

America.

You don't want a civil war.

We're all too fat.

Oh, God.

And she said, we're all too fat and dumb for a civil war.

And she wrote this mock letter from a soldier to

his mom,

which I think is just absolutely fantastic.

So this is a soldier from the field, you know, like those Civil War letters.

Dear mom,

like the old Ken Burns.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dearest mother, we lost the battle for the River Ranch, Costco.

In fact, we never made it.

Some of the guys' moms couldn't drop them off.

They said gas prices were too high.

For those of us who did make it, we got lost immediately.

Someone mentioned navigating by land using a map and a compass, but how do you use that without the internet?

After a grueling 10-minute march in full gear with only our hot pockets to sustain us, we collapsed, too exhausted to continue.

Who knew that my call of duty skills wouldn't exactly translate to actual battles?

We lost Ralphie, too.

He had a heart attack while putting up his pop tent.

It's been one thing, it's one thing to be a fat cop, but it is certainly another thing to be a fat soldier.

War is certainly hell.

Yeah, I don't.

Yeah, now, a civil war not really designed for this type of lifestyle and people.

People that are like, why is my, like, I was at a restaurant yesterday for lunch with my wife, and

the line took about

a good eight minutes for us to get up in order.

Yeah.

And we, I mean, it was almost as if we were going to collapse.

We were so upset upset about it.

Oh, yeah.

And, you know, when DoorDash is not there at the designated time that they predict,

Americans freak out.

That's not the type of society you build a civil war upon.

No.

That's like, you know, we're the type of people like, okay, guys, guys, guys, come on.

Can we just give it a rest for a second?

I need to eat.

Yeah.

I need a rest.

DoorDash is fired.

Stop firing.

I have to check what's happening on Facebook and TikTok, please.

The question would really be, and it would be interesting, is which side of the Civil War would be more diverse?

Because we've learned that that's how you make a strong military.

The more diverse your military, you don't focus on the merit and attributes of the individual soldiers.

You think instead about what percentage of this army is, you know,

illusion.

You know,

right?

That would be the other side, but ours would be

size does matter,

but we'd be talking about waistline.

We'd be like,

maybe we could roll Tim down the hill.

Anyway,

Texas and the Biden administration are at loggerheads now.

If President Biden won't defend us, states will have to defend themselves.

This is according to Arkansas governor, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Biden administration continues to refuse to secure the border.

Virginia supports Abbott and Texas's constitutional right to defend itself.

Glenn Young.

We are at this place now where we have 25 governors who are saying

this is constitutional and we support.

Now, let me play out because there's some crazy, there's...

There's always crazy people.

You know what?

We wouldn't have a problem with all these crazy people if there weren't so many damn crazy people.

But

we have people on the left and those who claim to be on the right that want violence, want war.

And then there are people who are in the middle

and you know maybe middle right and I think partially middle, I can't say left, but more centrist, not Mitt Romney,

but that are so angry right now.

And they're peaceful, but they're angry and they're like, somebody has to do something.

We have to stand up.

so this is what Greg Abbott has done and he has done it the right way he's an attorney Ken Paxton is one of the best attorney generals in the country they know the Constitution inside and out and so they are taking the constitutional route remember when our

founding fathers said that governments are instituted among men to protect these rights and when a government becomes uh hostile to those rights it's the right of the people to throw off those chains uh and form a new government okay so there's a couple things here first of all let's remember that the new government must be more likely to protect those rights so leftists

sorry

you'd be in violation

just like the South was in violation.

Oh, you want to, wait, you want to increase slavery?

Yeah.

We as a government haven't really been protecting everybody's rights like we should have, but we're going to say no to more.

Okay?

Remember, when Lincoln came in, he said the most important thing is to save a union.

Why?

Because a house divided against itself cannot stand.

We know that to be true.

So the most important thing we need to do is hold the republic together.

Hold the republic together.

But realize that Lincoln was also right, if we were to ever fall, the threat would come from within.

Right now, if we were in a scary movie, which sometimes I think we are, if we were starring in our scary movie, somebody would be in the Senate and you'd be in the House.

And somebody from the Senate would pick up the phone and it would ring in the House of Representatives.

You pick it up and they'd say,

the call is coming from inside the House.

No, I think it's coming from inside the Senate.

Then somebody else would call, no, it's in the house.

It's the White House.

The threat is amongst us.

The threat is from the system.

So the founders gave us all kinds of things that we can do.

And the first real, clear constitutional thing that I have seen, a remedy,

at least on the border, is National Guard being declared because of invasion, because the government is not fulfilling its duty.

That is just so clear.

We should celebrate.

And if something happens, first of all, I do not believe that federal troops or our border patrol agents

would fire on our National Guard.

And I don't think our National Guard would fire on federal troops.

They wouldn't.

I just don't think that we are there.

Now, somebody could be stupid.

That could happen.

Somebody fire something.

I mean, look at the Boston Massacre.

That's the way things usually happen.

The shot heard around the world.

But I do not believe that the Texas National Guard would turn on Texas with the Constitution being so clear.

And I don't think Greg Abbott or anybody else wants that.

What they want is the challenge in the Supreme Court.

What they want is to say, we disagree.

Now the government has taken extra steps to harm Texas.

And we're just following the Constitution.

Supreme Court, who's right?

We also have something really exciting happening right now that the founders did not.

An election.

in November.

Now, we have to watch how all of this plays out.

We have to, if you haven't signed up to work

for your district and

you're not monitoring the election, you're not part of that system,

then how are you going to complain?

We all have to play a role in this to make sure that it is as safe as possible.

But the founders, even if there was a chance that they could have voted the king out,

even though it wouldn't have happened, but it could have.

If they had representation, they would have taken that.

If the election was happening in November, they would be very pessimistic about their chances,

but they wouldn't have written the Declaration of Independence in July.

So let's stop with, again, have you been to the Balkans?

Have you seen a civil war?

Not good.

You know how many Americans died in World War II?

400 and what, 1,405,000, something like that.

How many died in World War I?

About 200,000?

Is that right, Stu?

It's a lot smaller than World War I.

116,000 in World War I, 405,000 in World War II.

The bottom estimate, we don't know for sure, but the bottom estimate for the Civil War was 650,000.

The top estimate is 850.

That's twice the number of World War II

and more than World War I and World War II combined.

And people might note the population was a lot higher in World War II, right?

Like, this is a much more.

This is what happens when both sides are you.

Yes.

When both sides are still your country, the numbers add up quickly.

Now,

I think it's a very bad idea, and I think everybody agrees.

Washing the world in blood would hasten the return of the promised one.

I'm not trying to do that one.

That's true.

Iran might have some

affinity towards this plan, but that's really one thing.

That I don't mind if my kids have to deal with and I don't.

You know what I mean?

And

I don't say bad things about them when they're alive and we're all gone and they're like, Jesus might come.

Hey, let's slow that down.

Let's pass that to the next generation.

I'm all for that.

I'm all for that.

I think Jesus would be okay with that kind of thinking too.

He doesn't really like war an awful lot.

Now, we don't compromise.

We don't back down.

What

Greg Abbott is doing is absolutely right.

Oh, boy.

I have many questions for you.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

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I just heard him think.

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I said he's absolutely right.

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It still cranks up.

It's a slow crank up process when a real new thought comes into my mind.

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So are we falling into some trap here where

Admiral Akbar?

Yes.

We're falling into an Admiral Akbar situation where like the media seems to be inflaming

the

some random voices on the internet talking about civil war and writing articles about it.

Like why like isn't this isn't this Texas situation a lot more boring than we're talking about it in the media right now?

For example Well, it is something that I mean

Yeah, it's it's it's a court case.

It's a court case.

Yes, but it is a constitutional crisis that we haven't had since the 1860s could turn into that.

But like right now, what has happened is the case has not been decided.

They pushed it back in the interim and all they said was that, I mean, what they said basically was, Texas, put up as much barbed wire as you want, but they get to cut it down for the next couple months.

Texas is not stopping the feds from coming in and cutting the barbed wire.

They're not right.

Like they've just said, we'll put down some more wire.

And the Supreme Court, this is not not a violation.

I know the left has a hard time understanding this.

It's really hard for them to understand.

Almost none of the people on the left who actually look at this stuff have any idea what's going on.

Yeah, because they don't actually understand the Constitution, the Supreme Court, and they're so used to it.

It

didn't go our way.

Well, then

we got to get them.

Okay.

This did go your way

to an extent.

Very minor extent.

Very minor extent.

It just said that the federal government can cut the wire.

It doesn't say Texas has to remove it.

Now, they can't stop the federal government from cutting the wire, but as soon as they walk away, they can put more wire down.

Now, this is not a

beautiful solution.

No.

It's not a final...

I don't want to use that.

It's not

a bigger solution.

No, it's bad.

Look, it's not good.

I'm not arguing it's good.

I'm just arguing

it's a lot more boring than a civil war.

Yes, it is.

It is a court case that I still believe, when it's decided, will come down on the conservative side.

I could be wrong on that, and I'm nervous about that because of Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett.

But

I still believe that Amy Coney Barrett, at the end of the day, is not going to go the wrong way on this.

And they did not argue insurrection.

That wasn't it at all.

That was not the argument.

The argument now is this is not insurrection.

This is

an invasion.

Okay.

And that word was shunned by the media at the very beginning, if you remember.

And everybody's like, well, I mean, it kind of is an invasion, but I mean, it's not really.

You know, when you had...

30,000 people coming over, you're like, oh, it's an invasion.

When you have 10 million people coming over our border illegally, ah, it's an invasion.

Okay.

So it's clear it's an invasion at this this point.

And that's what needs to be decided.

Because if it is, and the government is letting them in, then they're aiding and betting, abetting.

That's not even the case.

They're arguing.

Texas is just saying, we have a right.

If they don't do their job, we have a right to do it.

It's like watching your own home burn and all the firemen who lit the fire are standing around going, tough luck for you until you pull out your own fire truck and your own firefighters and you put it out.

And then the police come and they say, you can't put your own house out.

That's the job of the firemen.

Yeah, they're not doing it.

So I am.

That's what this really is all about.

Now, federal officials

gave Texas until Friday.

to,

I don't even know, make a decision.

Make a decision what?

A demand for Texas to allow Border Patrol to access a key park.

They can go there.

I've talked to the lieutenant governor about it this week.

They can go there.

But our National Guard's going to be there as well.

And you cut the wires.

Go ahead.

I'm not going to stop you.

I am going to lay a new line of wire behind you.

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Hello, America.

Yes, it's me, your old fat fat dad,

behind my cardboard microphone now.

Greetings from Texas.

We have Representative Barry Lautermilk.

There's a story that we have been trying to get to this week, and we just kept putting it off, putting it off, and I was going to have it next hour.

I'm going to try to do it hour three today of the podcast, but I have Carrie Lake on in about half an hour, so stand by for that.

But Barry has

been looking into the January 6th committee and the deleted files that contain critical information.

They deleted them

before the GOP was able to access them.

Now they have recovered them, but we're looking for the password.

And the password is never.

Barry Lautermilk is with us now.

Congressman, how are you?

Good, Glenn.

It's good to be with you again.

Yes.

Hey, we haven't tried the password never.

We may just get to the town see how that works.

Could do hate Trump, could do scam.

I mean, I could go all day on those.

Barry,

what is the significance of these files?

Well, that is what we don't know.

All we know at this point is they were recovered from what a series of hard drives that were given to us that were the hard drives on the computers of the select committee on January 6th.

At one point in my communications with Benny Thompson, who was the chairman of the select committee,

regarding videos that he admitted that they didn't keep that were critical to the investigation.

And these were the videos of the depositions, which even Liz Cheney in her recent book says was so important that we videotaped so the American people could see the truth.

But they decided not to preserve those.

We were communicating with him about that, as well as documents that he sent to the White House and DHS instead of keeping them and giving to us.

In his response to me as to what happened to these documents, why didn't he keep them, he mentioned that they handed over four terabytes of digital data to us.

The problem is we only had less than three terabytes of digital data.

So when we found out that these videotapes were missing, that we searched for those, they didn't exist, he admitted to not keeping those.

I don't know where those are.

We're still trying to find those.

You know, can somebody check?

I'm pretty sure the NSA has a really big storage cloud in Utah.

Can we maybe knock on the door and say, hey, are you a lending library?

Can we see some stuff?

That is a possibility there.

We've even gone to the house recording studio, who is, when you normally do a deposition and you have it recorded,

video recording, you just call the house studio.

This is what they do.

They bring in the equipment, they record it, and they keep it, and they make it available to you.

And then, when you're ready to archive it, you get it from them.

Well, what the select committee did was different because when

Benny Thompson told us he didn't keep any of these, we just went to the recording studio and said, Can you give us copies of them?

They said, Well, we don't have any because they didn't allow us to have any.

Oh, my God.

They only borrowed our equipment.

They wouldn't even use our people to do the recording.

So that sounded to me like

this was planned from the beginning.

So we hired,

trying to figure out where these other one plus terabytes of data were,

we hired an independent outside computer forensics company to take those hard drives and do a low-level scan of them.

And as you would expect, a hard drive that someone uses, you're going to find some deleted files.

Now, if you see files that were deleted early on in the investigation, you know, it's doing work.

You delete duplicates, you get rid of things.

But what highlighted to us was

files, and particularly some that were deleted, that they recovered, that were deleted just literally days or hours before the Republicans took control.

One of those documents that

was not password encrypted for some reason.

It was found in the recycle bin,

was related to the depositions that were sent to the White House.

So there's a deleted file that was deleted on January 1st, two days before the Republicans took control, related to documents that we know that they had that they sent away and we didn't have access to.

There were also 117, I believe the number, of documents that were password protected and encrypted.

that we can see the file names.

We can see what type of file it is.

And those names don't match anything that we already have.

So they are unique documents that I believe we haven't seen before, but we can't get into.

So, how critical they are, we don't know.

Okay, so somebody to give me the password.

So, we are

saying, don't we have people that do that?

I've seen it, you know, in movies and stuff.

You put a little box over the password, and it's like, password is cake.

Like, all right.

So, anyway, that's my password, by the way.

I've got to change it now.

But we're talking to

Chairman Barry Lautermilk from Georgia, the conservative Republican from Georgia,

is any of this illegal?

I mean, aren't you supposed to preserve documents?

I know if this happened and Congress wanted information that was on my computer and I just went, whoops, I deleted it all, I think my butt would be in a chair in front of you guys and you'd be, I'd be in trouble.

Yeah, wouldn't that?

You could be, yes, because if you deleted it at a point when you knew that Congress was looking for it or you knew the courts were looking for it, yes.

I mean, you're free to delete anything you want today, but once you know

for a letter, and they did know, we sent them letters of preservation.

The clerk's office has rules regarding what should be preserved, and video cases, depositions are part of that.

Why, however, is nothing happening.

Well, we are, we've got to know exactly the extent of where things are and you know my my number one priority is getting the documents

so we can

you know uh not only the passwords for these documents but getting the documents from the white house and homeland security that they have and so uh we are

for lack of better term, working with the White House right now.

The four depositions they have that are, these are House documents.

They are not executive branch.

These are documents owned by the House of Representatives.

They are White House employees who testified before the committee, and the chairman sent those to the White House.

We requested them.

They didn't respond, requested them again.

They responded and said, okay, we'll send them to you once we redact them.

So they sent me four documents that belong to the House, so heavily redacted, they're literally pages.

Yeah, yeah.

Look, Barry.

So.

What do you think about this?

Let me just offer.

I can get on the air now.

I can probably find somebody that goes by the name of like, you know, one-eye, and he can have that thing hacked open, you know, pretty quickly.

And we do it, you know, in the Capitol, you know, under supervision and stuff.

But I think we could get that done.

I cannot believe with the power and the might of the United States of America, we can't open up those files.

We're going to be looking at,

there's, we've contacted some different firms, if you will that that have technology to try to get into these now some of them say with the new encryption standards they may not be able to but we're looking at doing that in the meantime we're just trying to find somebody that has the passwords i i asked benny thompson for him uh just a simple letter saying hey we found these documents not making an accusation here but uh we just They're encrypted.

Don't know why you encrypt them, but we need the passwords.

And he responded with a three-page letter.

I think he used Ultra MAGA in it about eight or ten times, making all kind of blanket accusations.

That seems like obstruction.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah, seems like obstruction.

And which could be the case.

It could be he doesn't know what the committee did for two years.

Somebody on the staff.

Okay.

Somebody knows what those passwords are.

Yeah.

I'm talking to Representative Barry Lautermilk about January 6th.

There's one other thing I want to hit quickly.

This whole pipe bomb story is falling apart quickly.

I mean, all of the January 6th narrative is falling apart.

Any update on the pipe bomb thing?

I mean, this week we saw the video of an undercover Capitol Policeman who is supposedly was just a passerby at the beginning.

Now we find out he was Capitol Police and he spots it, then goes over to the Secret Service.

They finish their sandwiches, let kids walk by it before they get out of their car and

then send the robot out to disarm it.

What the hell is going on with this?

That is a good question.

We've been working with Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky.

This is something he wanted to take on as a member of the Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization Committee.

So we've been working closely with him, pulling video records, doing some investigative work ourselves.

And

we released in the last couple of weeks that it was an undercover Capitol Police officer.

But even before we knew that, we have video of the person who placed the pipe bomb.

You can watch him place it the night before, and it was obvious that he was putting it in a place to be found.

Yes.

The Secret Service had the vice president-elect, Kamala Harris, at that building.

They were there sitting literally feet away from this pipe bomb and never saw it.

I mean, they are supposed to be doing sweeps of building before you bring somebody there, and that pipe bomb had sat there from the night before.

There's some as

if you look at the pipe bomb,

if you look at the pipe bomb, it was like designed by Mega Mind.

I mean, it's so clear.

It's got the kitchen timer on it.

It is so clear that it was meant to be found

and that it's a pipe bomb that my dog would have sniffed it out.

How did they miss it?

Except they did find it 20 minutes before the vote was supposed to go down on Capitol Hill.

Wow.

And that's where the timer was stopped.

It stopped at 20 minutes before

the hour or whatever.

Wow, what a coincidence that is.

And why is it that Kamala Harris, we didn't even know that she, where she was and anything about this for a year.

And how is it that this is the greatest scandal and the darkest day in American history?

And yet the people that would gain the most from saying there were two pipe bombs they planned on blowing up buildings haven't said a word about it.

Why?

And the FBI pulls resources from the investigation and moves them over to

helping prosecute the people that were there on January 6th.

It seems to me a lone pipe bomber would be more dangerous that's still out there

and people who have already, you know,

even if they did something wrong, which there were people that did.

I mean, there were silence that day.

But

there are other people that they're spending an awful lot of resources on what should be misdemeanor charges

that you're going to pull resources from investigating a pipe bomb to go after these folks.

And then there's the issue of the gallows, you know, the infamous gallows that

Biden is using in his campaign right now.

Yeah.

And they were

built the night before

in front of police.

Yeah.

Why didn't somebody tear that down?

I mean, with all the security, with all the police, with U.S.

Park Police, the FBI, Metropolitan Police, the U.S.

Capitol Police, in droves all around that area that morning.

And we have it all on tape.

And somebody report it.

Yeah, and we have it all on tape, and we can't find the guys that built it, can we?

Well,

the FBI sure hasn't.

Yeah, that's weird.

An invest independent investigative reporter that's doing tremendous work, much like Steve Baker with you, have been doing.

Thank you.

Has been working on this, and he's gotten more leads than the FBI has.

Yeah, that's weird.

Let me tell you, Steve has done a tremendous job.

We spent a lot of time with him.

Of course, he's been in our office looking at videos, and

he's doing a great service to the American people by exposing some

in-depth corruption.

I know.

Our prayers are with him and our support with him as well.

Thank you.

I will say, everybody at the Blaze, and I ask the audience to do the same, pray for him because

we're expecting him to be arrested any day.

And we don't even know the charges, and they won't tell him the charges.

And

all he did was investigate.

He was there just as a reporter investigating.

And now that he's exposing things, all of a sudden, oh,

they're going to file charges.

So any day.

Thank you so much for your help on that and everything else, Barry.

Appreciate it.

God bless.

Well, the American people deserve to know the truth.

They sure do.

Thank you.

Congressman Barry Lautermilk from the great state of Georgia.

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Earlier this week, we heard a stunning audio tape.

Listen.

Is there a number of which

I can be bought?

That's what it's about.

We can take a pox for a couple of years.

No.

I'm going to go right back to where you're done.

No.

This is Carrie Lake.

She's the former Arizona news anchor and now a candidate for the U.S.

Senate in Arizona.

One of her, quote, friends who runs the, or ran the GOP in Arizona,

came to her to tell her that somebody back east wants her out.

So, is there a job we can give you where you can make lots of money and,

you know,

just disappear for a couple of years?

Because there are some very powerful people that do not want you in the Senate.

Hmm.

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Welcome to the program, Carrie Lake.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm doing great.

Are you?

Yes, it has been a crazy week.

Oh, I bet it has been.

And arrows are coming your way everywhere.

So, first of all.

You know what, though?

You know what?

Actually, no,

I think a lot of love's coming my way from the people.

Basically,

the arrows have been coming my way for a long time.

The people are just exactly fed up right now, and they know this stuff's going on.

And I think it just verified that they're not wrong.

This is the kind of world we're living in, the corrupt world in Washington, D.C., and in politics.

Right.

So

let's start kind kind of at the beginning.

This guy was a friend and a co-worker.

He claims that we were friends.

We were just having conversations.

Do you record all of your conversations or is there a reason why you had this conversation taped?

Did he do it before?

Yeah, go ahead.

Why would I record this?

Well, I recorded it because it was about two or three in the afternoon, and I got a call from Jeff DeWitt, who is the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party and he said hey what are you doing I uh I got to come over and talk to you and I said um I'm a little busy right now I'm actually packing for CPAC I think you were might have been at that CPAC yep I saw you finishing up finishing up my book I I don't have a lot of time and he said well I'm I'm right in your neighborhood I'm gonna be there in five minutes I have to what I have to talk to you about I have to do in person it can't be

And I said, Jeff, at this point, a lot of people knew I was speculating, there was speculation I was going to to run for Senate.

And I said, if you're trying to talk me out of running for Senate, because I knew he had some friends who didn't want me to run for Senate,

you know,

I'm not going to entertain that.

And he said, no, no, no, no, I just, I've got to come over, but I can't do it on the phone, but I have to talk to you about.

And I just got a bad feeling about it.

I thought, is there going to be a threat?

What is, why does he have to come to my door and talk to me?

I know I would record that conversation as well.

I just recorded it.

I just thought, there's a threat, a threat.

If he's going to threaten me, I need to have this on recording.

I never even listened to it back until this week.

Okay.

I just said, okay, go ahead.

Okay, so wait a minute.

So had he, because his resignation letter was bizarre.

If I wasn't doing things, I mean, I've had all kinds of conversations with Stu, but this is what I do.

This is what I believe in.

And if Stu said, I've got some tape and, you know, I'm going to expose it.

I would be like, I'd come on and say, go ahead, expose it.

We had many conversations.

Some of them were difficult conversations, but none of them were unethical or illegal or anything like that.

Why would he resign and say, I'm resigning because of her threat that she's got more tapes?

Do you have more tapes?

And did he do other things like this?

No,

I don't have more tapes.

And that's what is so disturbing about it, that he thinks that his behavior has been so unethical that he thinks there's worse stuff out there.

So you never said that you had more tapes to release.

You never gave that threat to him.

I haven't talked to him, returned any calls, even texted him in a long time.

And this is a bunch of BS.

He's saying that I blackmailed him.

I didn't even tell him I was putting it out.

Usually, if there's a blackmail situation, you say, this is going out if you don't do that.

So he didn't even know.

Until the media contacted him for comment, you know, I don't, he didn't know it was going out.

Now, you said this.

behaved in a way that he thinks there's, I think that the response, he said, there's more damaging video out there or damaging stuff out there.

And I'm like, what could be more damaging than 10 or 11 minutes

of a bribery call?

I mean, is there a snuff film out there?

What the heck is going on with this?

Okay, so I said when this tape came out, I was really angry and said, not another dime should go to the GOP.

This guy should resign.

If this is illegal, they should should be arrested, anybody who was involved.

If it wasn't illegal, it should be illegal.

And I said, it's not just about this guy in Arizona.

The most important thing to me was that

a call came from back east.

And the way he said it, it was very knowing.

Do you...

And you don't have to give any names because if you do,

you can get in trouble for slander or or whatever,

unless you have something to back it up.

Do you have a pretty good idea of who he meant by Back East?

I don't know.

I mean, I've thought about it long and hard.

I've got some guesses I could make.

But again, I'm not going to do that.

The sad thing, though, Glenn, is you could sit there for hours and think about it and come up with a list of 300, 400, maybe 500 people or groups or organizations that it could be.

And that says a lot about the state of our government, the state of our political situation.

You know, it could be so many different people.

It shows you how corrupt Washington, D.C.

is.

Okay, so

has anybody reached out to you from back east to say, hey, we got to get to the bottom of this?

Anybody from the GOP?

Nobody?

No, nobody from the GOP.

I've had some great people reach out to me, senators who I think are fantastic and said, oh, my gosh.

You know, we can't wait to get you in the Senate.

We need somebody who isn't bought and paid for and influenced.

And you would think, Glenn, I mean, and I appreciate you for having me on, and we've had some great interviews already on this, but the mainstream media, by the way, I went public with this within 24 hours.

I went public.

I flew out of town, went to CPAC, changed my entire speech, and I just talked about this.

I said, I just got bribed by a pretty big political person to stay out of politics.

You know, basically offering me what, how much would it take to make you to stay out?

And I brought my whole speech, I kind of wrapped around this, and mainstream media didn't reach out and say, Who bribed you?

Can I tell you something, Carrie?

I mean,

I've heard those things before.

I've had things like this happen to me before, and I've referenced them, but I didn't have a tape.

Why did you not?

Because I would have had you on the next day had i thought that you had proof of it um and maybe it was just me for just dropping the ball here um

why did you wait for the tape to be released or to say i have a tape of it

well i i didn't want to really release anything and i also didn't listen to it I taped it because I was afraid there was going to be a physical threat.

And when there wasn't, I just kind of put the, you know, put that file away and never even dealt with it.

But i i felt that going public with it the next day or within 24 hours when i went on the cpac stage and since then again this was 11 months ago oh i know we had i was there i heard you and i it didn't occur to me to ask you if you had evidence of it and i'm sorry i i should have no that's okay

well but uh i didn't listen to it until this week i just went oh my gosh i i have a recording of that and i was eating dinner with my husband my daughter was uh eating dinner with us and i happened to, I tracked it down and found it and hit play while we were eating dinner.

And literally, as vivid as I recalled it, and I think when I did my speech at CPAC, I described it pretty well.

Our jaws dropped to the floor.

We were shocked.

I went, oh my gosh, this is so much worse than I even remembered it being.

And my daughter was.

shocked.

She said, tell me that guy doesn't work in politics anymore.

I said, he heads up the Arizona GOP.

And she said, what are you going to do about it, Mom?

And I thought, I didn't didn't really want to put that out, but how disappointing when your kids hear something like that and then you just sit on it.

Well, I didn't want to do that.

I will tell you, you won a primary, did you not?

In the governor's race, yes.

Yeah, but no, not yet.

Primary happens when?

In Arizona.

In August.

Oh, geez.

I'm up 40 points against the competitor that I've been in.

How many points?

How many points?

Depending on the poll, 30 or 40 points.

I'm not really worried.

So

here's the amazing thing that somebody back east, powerful people, really want you to go away.

They don't want you in the Senate.

I know that there is a big Senate fund, and I'm not making any accusations, but I know there's a big Senate fund that is that the GOP has, that is controlled by one individual who does have

a pattern of supporting people that are not MAGA at any cost, even if it means we lose a Senate race.

And

they're not going to get behind you.

First of all, if you're leading by 30 or 40 points, then

you're the obvious candidate.

Let the people of Arizona decide, but you should be getting support from the GOP.

And if somebody is

trashing our system and they are offering bribes so people go away.

That all has to be exposed.

I can't call out corruption on the other side if I don't call it out on our side.

Oh, 100%.

I don't want corruption anywhere.

I don't want it on the left.

I don't want either right.

And right now, Glenn, it seems like we have a lot of corruption in the Republican Party.

And there's just this resist, you know, and I think a lot of it is resistance to Trump.

They don't want Trump running.

And I don't know if it's because he's going to reveal a lot of the corruption.

Frankly, I want people going to Washington, D.C.

who Washington, D.C.

doesn't like.

Oh, me too.

So

the media now is covering this and they're trying to, oh, he was just offering her a job.

It's like, no, no, no.

And they're just, you know, you talked about it.

You have conversations with your friends.

You run a business.

Have you ever had a conversation like this is not normal?

No.

Anybody out there who runs a business, if this is the kind of normal conversations you're having, you're probably in the mafia.

Well, quite honestly, I mean, it makes, it, it says a lot about people who leave Congress

and before they run for another higher office, they go to work for these companies and seem to bide their time.

There have been accusations by the guy who did it that you edited the tape.

Is there any truth to that?

I put 11, 10 or 11 minutes that involved the bribe.

And I don't know how you could say that was, I forget the word he used.

Out of context.

Yeah, some sort of out of context.

How do you take 10 minutes of bribery out of context?

I mean, Stu and I were talking about this yesterday, and I said the only way it can be taken out of context is if the sentence before was, everything I'm about to say, I'm totally making up, Carrie.

That's the only way to take it out of context.

Or I got to describe a scene from a movie I just watched.

Yes.

Here's how it went.

Yes.

But the tape you gave us is

creative editing.

Right.

The tape I gave you is an honest tape.

I pulled 10 or 11 minutes, I forget, I think it's a little over 10, of him trying to bribe me.

But you did not splice around or edit anything out of those 11 minutes?

Nope.

Okay.

It's all of the bribery part.

I mean, I didn't say, hey, welcome.

I got you a cup of coffee, all of that.

But, you know, this is

this is not taken out of context.

This is not creative editing.

Creative editing would be a 30-second clip.

Yeah.

This is a conversation about him thriving me.

So there's no ifs, ands, and buts, and he's afraid there's worse stuff out there.

It tells you a lot about him.

Carrie, I have to break for 60 seconds.

Can you hang for a second?

Sure.

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So, Carrie,

you're a former news anchor for many years.

You know how this works.

And

it is shocking to me that you have evidence of the GOP being dirty, and the mainstream media won't pick it up.

You'd think this would be a story they would run with forever.

And they have picked it up.

And I think initially they were like, what do we do with this?

Because

I am the person second to Trump that they like to bash over

and just spread lies about and lie about.

And so they picked it up and they covered it.

And now they're like, oh, wait, what are we going to do?

We've got a GOP guy bribing her, and they love to attack the GOP, but yet we can't ever make her look good.

So how do we cover this?

I mean, unbelievable.

They don't know what to do.

It's actually funny.

I find it interesting.

Just this week, when this story came out, the Arizona Republic, I call it the Arizona Repugnant.

It's gotten that bad.

Our local paper.

It's always been bad.

following public comments on any of the stories they put out.

They know the public is fed up with them.

The mainstream media is starting to fall apart.

The wheels are coming off.

You saw the hundreds of layoffs at the LA Times.

People have just stunned the lies of the media.

And thank God for people like you, Glenn.

You've been around for a long time telling the truth.

And thank God for the alternative media that's popping up and the independent journalists.

We now have places to go where we can get the unfiltered truth and we don't have to depend on these propagandists.

What is the biggest

thing that you would want to take on in Congress?

Why,

in the Senate,

who would you

ally yourself with?

Wow, that's a good question.

I think there are a lot of good senators.

I love Rand Paul.

I love Mike Lee.

Of course, they're fighters.

I've gotten to know know John Barroso, and I think he's a good man.

But I want to just go and represent the people of Arizona.

I don't want to become part of a clique.

I definitely don't want to become part of the back scratching club that Jeff talked about.

Despicable.

Or the backstabbing club.

I'm sure there's one of those.

I'd rather be in the butt-kicking club, to be honest.

And I want to take on the border.

And I say that with a bit of reluctance because I have a feeling that I'm hoping the border is going to be taken on before then.

I mean, how much longer can we take?

Can we wait until January 25?

What do you think about

Texas saying that it's an invasion and calling up the National Guard and the fact that the Democrats are saying the president needs to federalize them and take that power away from the governor?

Well, I was the first, when I ran for governor, I was the first candidate in the country to come up with a border plan.

And it called for me on day one,

taking the oath of office, to declare an invasion and put the National Guard on the border, take back the right and control of our border.

Exactly what's happening now.

I remember.

I wish somebody would have done it when you didn't.

I wish somebody would have taken your idea and done it a little earlier, but we're here now, and it is clearly an invasion.

I'm glad it's happening.

And somebody said to me at the time, well,

what if Joe Biden sues you?

What if he, I go, assuming, what's he going to do around

the governor?

Yeah, bring it on.

So it's going to make the fight worth having.

Thank you so much.

She is a candidate for the U.S.

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And she has made an awful lot of news this week.

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I want to give you some good news, and I've got more good news for you.

In fact, well, I'll get to it after we have Bob Rommel on.

He is a Florida state representative.

This is a massive, massive win, and I wanted to get him on to congratulate him and everybody in Florida that was involved in this.

The banks, 100 banks, including the big ones,

in Florida have now signed an agreement that they will not discriminate against their customers on the basis of their political views.

Now, where's the teeth in this?

What does it actually mean?

Bob Rommel joins us now.

Hi, Bob.

How are you?

Good morning, Glenn, and thanks for having me back on the show.

We're doing great today.

I mean,

this is a very big win.

Tell me about it, and tell me about the teeth.

Well, Glenn, when I first started looking at the ESG policies and what banks around America were doing, first of all, I couldn't believe it was happening.

To me, it was a form of discrimination.

And

really, they all told me, too, that if they're a federally chartered bank, that Florida couldn't tell them what to do.

And

they're kind of right.

So really, the teeth of the bill was that if you use ESG policies in the state of Florida determining credit, you will no longer be qualified to accept qualified public deposits in Florida, which is about $200 billion a year.

So how do we know if they're doing that?

Do the people have a right to know why they were turned down for a loan and to file suit?

Well,

that's the second part of the bill that we are working on.

But the first part is that the executives at these banks had to attest and sign that they were not using it.

So now,

first of all, none of them wanted to sign it because I guess maybe they wanted to do it, but they had to attest.

We put their signature personally on the line for their corporation.

And actually, every bank that does business in Florida, except one, signed it.

What was the one?

I don't know, some communist bank of China or something.

Was it really the Bank of China?

No, no, it was actually a small bank that does business in Canada, too.

So

that's close to China.

Okay, yeah.

Getting closer and closer.

Is there teeth in that?

For instance,

if you signed this and you find out that they are engaging in that, what happens to the bank or the person who signed it?

Well, then that bank will no longer be able to do business in Florida, period.

And

when you're talking $200 billion a year in business of public deposits,

that's a big number.

And obviously, their shareholders would be upset.

But

we are working on part two of that was HB3, we're working on part two and what this would do if a bank discriminates against an individual and debanks you to tell you you're no say you're just doing your checking and your savings, your credit cards through a bank and a bank debanks you because

they don't like you

and they're using this terminology of suspicious activity.

State of Florida is saying if you're doing you know suspending somebody for suspicious activity, you need to tell us privately,

we don't want bad guys that are doing

human trafficking and things like that to get away with that stuff.

You tell us, and we see that you're doing it in good faith because there really are bad guys, and you really did tell the IRS, Department of Justice, it's okay.

But if you did it just because of some political reason, ideological reason, well, first of all, you can't do business with us, and those people can sue you.

That's really good.

We have to take the power and give it to the people because we can't wait around for an attorney general to look at our complaint, decide to take it up.

The individual needs to be able to say,

I want to know, deliver the documents, why did I not get this?

Why have I been debanked?

And then be able to sue them.

And the state can join if they care to, but it has to empower the people, not just the Attorney General's office.

Do you agree?

You know, I think...

No, 100% agree because it could take too long.

It could take

years for the Attorney General to get to it.

And by then, if you're a business owner and you can't do any banking, you're out of business, period.

And I mean, we do remember a few years ago under the Obama administration when they put pressures on banks

not to do business with short-term loan folks and people that sell legal guns.

Listen, I don't frankly trust the big banks, and I don't frankly trust the Department of Justice myself.

Can you?

Wow.

Me neither.

That was a surprise.

May I change the subject here, Bob?

And I know I didn't prep you to be talking about this, and I don't know if you have an opinion on it.

But obviously,

Governor Abbott has stepped into the big boots of Cowboy Techs here and said we are declaring an invasion, and the government's not doing its job.

That invokes the Constitution and my right to put the National Guard.

The feds have said you have 24 hours to allow us to come on the property.

It's my understanding from the lieutenant governor who I talked to.

He said they're free to go and they can cut the wire, but we're going to put other wire right behind it.

And that's all in line with the Supreme Court.

You're from one of the states that said you signed on.

25 states signed on yesterday to say we back Florida or we back Texas.

If this goes on,

are you

would the state of Florida, do you think, would send National Guard to Texas?

Glenn, in the past, we've already sent some National Guard and some actually FDLE, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, to help Texas.

Not only would I support doing that, again, that would have to come from the governor or we as the legislative body, but I would volunteer my time to go there and help them myself because it is an invasion of America.

The fabric of America is being destroyed purposely because the Biden administration wants to do it.

They're destroying Texas, but they're also destroying small towns around the country where these people are being dropped off and now living and becoming part of society.

They're destroying schools, they're destroying hospitals, they're destroying affordable housing because the government's paying $450 a day for these people to live in someplace.

And veterans are getting kicked out of homes that they live in.

It's worse than that.

I have a story here.

The VA has a backlog of 1 million veteran claims, but the resources are going to illegal immigrants.

So a million veterans are not getting the services they've been promised because of this.

I mean, this is an outrage.

You know, I...

I know we have to be compassionate to other people, and I feel bad that everybody wasn't born in America, but there's 8 billion people in America and 7 billion of them live below our poverty standards we can't take them all in illegally because then we have no laws and what you talked about veterans we work really hard here in florida to be veteran friendly and when i see how much money we're spending on illegals i said could we just spend a little bit more on veterans and give them what they're due they

i get frustrated bob i i asked this of uh Ron DeSantis when he was running for governor.

I said, you can't run a second term or a third term.

And I'm afraid that this will all be redone.

He said, no, we're doing it the right way.

He said, we're passing all of this as legislation.

He said, my goal is to make the governor's office so impotent

that

they can't go back.

Do you feel comfortable?

that you've made enough progress and you can get to that finish line before his term ends?

You know,

obviously he has two two more years, and I think we can do more.

And I do have confidence in the bench that we have,

but we're not as ruby red as people think.

I mean,

his first election, he won by 32,000 votes.

The country today is a little bit different than his election two years ago.

But I know that we have a good bench.

I know people are going to fight.

I know people like me are going to fight.

I'm termed out myself right now at the end of this session.

But you know what?

Deep down, I have confidence in the people that are moving to Florida.

They're usually moving because they came from a bad state.

So they're not bringing that policy here because actually our voter logs for Republicans keep rising.

But, you know, we have to keep the pedal to the metal and step on the liberals' throats that they think that it's okay to destroy America.

You should talk to somebody in the state.

I talked to two governors in Texas about this, and neither of them took us up on this.

I felt that there should be a trailer that runs before every movie in Texas that is just very, very positive.

It's not political, but it's just a lot of people moved here for a reason.

Texas is different.

And don't forget what you moved here for, why you moved away and came here.

Keep Texas Texas.

And

nobody liked that idea.

I think Florida should do the same thing.

No, I agree.

And we have a staying here to make America Florida.

I mean, we were one of the first,

we were one of the first states that banned sanctuary cities.

And, you know, we've been in lawsuits with different cities.

But you see what happens when you have sanctuary cities.

You destroy a city.

San Francisco, one of the most beautiful cities in America.

Well, they did clean it up when.

Yeah, when President Z came.

Yeah.

These are simple things.

I mean, we live in a law and order country, I think, unless you're an illegal illegal and then you want to go to California, get a sex change, they'll pay for it.

Or, you know, if you're a part of the elite political class or you're part of some community that is organized and

has, you know, special reasons to get away with crime, you know.

But other than that, we're a law and order country.

I know those who lead us in Davos, they want us to all drive our bicycles, but they can fly in their planes.

It's awful.

But we're going to keep fighting.

I have faith in our country.

I love our country.

I know we've gone through tougher times, I think, but it seems like the world is against the way we live our life here in America.

And unfortunately, so is the White House.

Barry Laudermilk.

Thank you so much.

Republican from Georgia is.

Pardon me?

Oh, my gosh.

I'm sorry.

I have Barry on.

I had Barry on last hour.

I'm sorry.

I should have thought of that.

So sorry about that.

Thank you so much for being on the program, Bob.

I really appreciated everything that you guys have done in Florida, and you've really led the way on ESG.

So, Bob Rommel from Florida, thank you.

Thank you, Glenn.

God bless.

Bye-bye.

That was a nice Joe Biden moment you sat down there.

Because I was looking at what was coming up and the schedule and everything, and I just looked at, I don't know what I am.

Anyway,

coming up in just a minute, we have Thomas Massey.

And Thomas is going to talk to us about the pipe bombs.

The January 6th narrative is completely falling apart.

But half the country is missing the entire narrative arc of this.

And it is really incumbent upon us to know the facts

and be able to talk to our friends and say, hey,

This is what happened here and here and here.

Nefarious people were involved.

Let's both agree on that.

But what else was going on?

And Thomas Massey has been working on this.

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Hmm.

Stu.

A lot of stuff going on.

You afraid yet?

Afraid of what, Glenn?

You're not afraid.

No, I'm not afraid.

You will be.

You

will be.

Oh, my.

That's the way it works.

You know, I had to get that in there because last hour it was Admiral Akbar.

It's a trap.

And, you know, there's an awful lot that Star Wars gave us, and then they wrecked it.

Yes, they've wrecked it for me.

I stood by it all the way

until

the eighth one they released, I would say.

Like the first three, obviously classics.

The prequels,

underwhelming and bad but also had some moments and it didn't turn me I was like okay it's prequels and they're gonna finish this and then it'll be done yep and I was okay honestly with the first one they released and the new batch I was okay with it what was it I don't remember what it was called but it was a it was basically a complete shot for shot remake of the original and they just changed the names of the characters but it was uh you know i thought it was all right and then they went into that other the second one there

that i i don't know what they were thinking i don't even know and the last one was his was catastrophic as well i mean the last two were horrible and then they're like okay well look we know that didn't work out people were kind of pissed off at a lot of those movies let's give you a great series we'll call it the mandalorian we'll have the best character in the series and then we'll fire her for a tweet

And that's really where they lost me because I was still watching.

I mean, Mandalorian was okay.

I was still watching it.

But when they blew out Gina Carano, it just like, it's one of those things that was just just like, this is insanity.

It was like my Disney moment.

A lot of people had it later.

Yeah.

With, you know, I don't know, they were trying to like trans your kid or something.

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you just fired this woman for something that was completely innocuous.

And that another cast member tweeted the exact same thing about the opposite party.

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And she was like the best character on the show.

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Boy, have you seen how all of this is just falling apart on almost every front?

Inflation, the economy, jobs, the World Economic Forum, that's all conspiracy, is it?

Really?

The COVID,

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Now there's new news out about it today, that they didn't release information that myocarditis could be a side effect because they didn't want people to panic.

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The border and the January 6th narrative is really falling apart quickly, especially when it comes to the pipe bombs.

And we're going to talk to a guy who in Congress has been following this like crazy.

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Hello, Thomas.

How are you doing, Glenn?

I'm good.

I'm good.

I got a couple of things to talk to you about, but I would really like to hear what is happening with the January 6th pipe bomb.

There is so much breaking news on this this week that it is, it's shocking, shocking.

Yeah.

Well, let me tell you where this all started.

When we took the majority, remember the Democrats had the majority for two years.

When we took the majority, it became possible for us to go look at the videos of January 6th.

So my staff sat over there and watched dozens of hours.

We found something that had never been released.

I worked for weeks.

I finally went all the way to the top, got Kevin McCarthy to pull some levers, and I got a video released.

of the second pipe bomb being discovered.

They've never talked about who discovered the second pipe bomb.

So then

I got to talk to the assistant director

of the FBI.

This is the guy in charge of the investigation.

For two years, he was in charge of this investigation.

And it wasn't just a little chit-chat, and it wasn't five minutes in a hearing.

We had several hours with him in a deposition, a transcribed interview.

And I put these questions to him.

For instance, how does a one-hour kitchen timer on these bombs, how does it supposed to set the bomb off 17 hours later?

Because remember, the FBI said, oh, these were planted the night before.

We've got videotape of this person walking around putting these bombs out, one at the RNC, one at the DNC.

But when they were the next day, the question is, how the heck can they go off?

And

he told me, I said,

I asked him, do you think they intended for the bomb to go off the next day?

He said, I can't speculate on that, sir.

I said, well, let me ask you this.

Do you think it was technically possible for a kitchen timer?

No, no, he said.

I said, that has a one-hour duration.

He said, no.

I said, to detonate a bomb 17 hours later.

He said, no, I don't.

And how come they both stopped at 20 minutes till?

Yeah.

I mean, what are the odds?

The synchronicity of the discovery of these two bombs.

My question is,

how hard did they look for the third bomb?

How did they know there were just two bombs?

They're like, all right, let's wrap this bomb thing up.

We got them both.

But that's kind of their attitude.

The interesting thing is the video you released

shows that the source was a Capitol Police officer, right?

Off-duty.

I have not interviewed that person yet.

They say plain clothes.

Plain clothes.

So Capitol Police Officer finds the bomb.

And the picture is comical because it's just sitting in front of the bushes.

It clearly, I mean, it looks, all it's missing is acme on the front of it.

It looks like a pipe bomb with a, you know, wires coming out of a kitchen timer.

All right, it's ridiculous.

Nobody, nobody finds this.

Just about 20 minutes before

the vote is going down, a plainclothes police officer happens to spot it.

And then he goes over casually to the Secret Service, talks to them casually for a while, then goes around the other side side of the window,

talks to that officer, then leaves, and the Secret Service don't leave their car.

Then,

children.

Yeah, kids.

Children.

Oh, my gosh.

A whole group of little children are walking by, and the FBI is not saying, or the Secret Service are not saying, hey, can you cross on the other side of the street, please?

Nothing.

Nothing.

How is that happening?

What did he say?

I said, would that person who, by the way, I don't know for sure that it was a plainclothes Capitol Hill police officer.

I don't know that for certain until I talked to that person.

But I have reason to believe that's probably true.

I asked him at the time, before we knew that fact or suspected that fact, I said, would the people who found these bombs be suspects?

And he said, absolutely.

That's investigation 101.

And I said, well, who found the bomb?

He said, I don't know.

But he's been running it for two years.

For two years.

Here's the other thing.

I asked him, okay, how confident are you that the person you have on video the night before is the person who planted those bombs?

He said, very, very confident.

They said, well, how did that work when you went to, did you use the cell phone data?

Did you geo-fence and locate this person?

And this is when he told me what is unbelievable to me.

And he said, I don't want to start any conspiracy theories, but

the data was corrupted from one of the providers.

And that's probably why we couldn't get the where we can't figure out who this person was.

The data was corrupted.

They can find the thousands of grandmas and go break down the nursing home doors to throw them in jail, but the data was corrupted on that guy.

Wow.

It's the dog ate my homework explanation that just doesn't match up.

Did you ask him about the video that they have shown that is at

a frame rate that no security camera has ever had?

I asked him about that.

I asked another in a follow-up

briefing from the FBI that I had just before Christmas, I asked another person about that and the alternate angles.

They've got different angles from that camera that they seem to not be releasing or showing us that would show the person actually placing the bomb the night before.

Right.

Remember, we've got video of a person, but we have no video of

them placing it.

Right.

On

either near the DNC, was actually closer to the Capitol Hill Club than the DNC.

And we have no video of them placing it at the RNC.

Sorry, RNC,

Capitol Hill Club are next to each other.

DNC is further down the street.

So

I asked the

assistant director in charge.

This is Stephen D'Antoino.

He's since retired from the FBI, by the way.

By the way, he wait, wait, wait.

He's also the guy that got a promotion.

He was in Michigan.

He was the guy who thwarted and oversaw the operation on the Whitmer kidnapping case, which was a joke and thrown out.

So

because of that great success, he was transferred and put into Washington, D.C., which

is the place that everybody's trying to get to.

And then after this, he suddenly resigns.

It's weird.

What happened?

Yeah, well,

not until he had a non-investigation for two years of the pipe bomb.

You know, I've talked to people who live in that vicinity.

They have townhouses near where the person allegedly placed the bombs the night before and where the bombs were found.

They weren't talked to until months later.

Like, you have to be there.

The evidence starts disappearing, you know, within hours.

For instance, as this person walked around the neighborhood, there's Wi-Fi.

Did you go check the Wi-Fi routers?

Did their Wi-Fi try to connect to somebody's cell phone?

Did Bluetooth devices try to connect?

There was no effort, as far as we can tell, and as far as I know from talking to the people that own townhouses around there, to do that.

There's a complete lack of diligence here.

Let me ask you:

you know,

motive plays a real role here.

Who would

have the motive

to place bombs in a place where you know it's going to be 20 minutes before the vote and the vice president is inside of that building?

Who would have motive of doing that?

Really, really, really, really bad guys, right?

Or those who are trying to

put together a setup, correct?

A narrative, right?

But if the indictments, the indictments on all the Jerry well, I don't know if it's all the J6ers.

I just learned this last night from Kyle Seraphin.

He says that the pipe bombs are mentioned in the narrative

that was used to indict.

Oh my gosh.

So

you have this narrative, except if it was really nefarious people, why wouldn't the vice president, the DNC,

the media, everybody else, why wouldn't they be digging into this story and talking about these pipe bombs?

For two years, we've not heard anything about these pipe bombs.

Why?

What would the motivation be if it was planted by somebody nefarious?

Are they suddenly just becoming...

just very, very, very Christ-like and saying, well, we can forgive and forget.

Evaluate, it was the incoming vice president who was like 30 feet from this bomb for what would have been, you know, a long time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they're not, I mean, why have they not played that up?

In fact, they kept the fact that she was at the DNC where this pipe bomb was out of public knowledge for a long time.

But why wouldn't they use that to say, look,

the first, you know, African-American female vice president was almost murdered on

January 6th.

It is the most egregious part of January 6th.

If it would have happened, and if you believe those were nefarious people that put those in, you would be all over that.

You know, if we found, you know,

the bombs in the World Trade Center wired to the wired to the

pillars and we caught it in time, we would be saying they planted bombs, thank God they didn't go off, and the pillars of the World Trade Center.

Why wouldn't you do that with this?

You know, with the Boston bombing, they were at the Macy's where the pressure cooker was purchased within 36 hours.

They had identified the, you know, where the pressure cooker came from, and they were getting the video off of the Macy's camera within 36 hours of that bombing.

So there's we can let me ask the question the other way.

So what would the motive of the bad guy be?

What would the motive of the quote, you know, air quote good guys be

to not diligently follow all these leads to just sort of try to memory hole this whole episode of these two pipe bombs?

And I would say the motive is

the most charitable interpretation is that they were Keystone cops and they don't want to be embarrassed by they were terrible at doing all of this and they're embarrassed.

They're more charitable than I am.

Yeah, I don't I don't I don't believe it.

I'm saying that's the charitable.

I think the more probable motive is that they were somehow involved, just like in the Michigan case,

where

they were trying to poking either and I'm not saying it's somebody who gets a you know, goes to a cubicle at FBI or somewhere and and draws a salary.

Maybe these were assets

and they were running something to try to ensnare anybody who was thinking of having pipe bombs there.

Well, they would gravitate toward this effort if it was hanging out there in the subversive underground.

But they've totally, they're just totally trying to memory hole this.

I'm trying to get this out there.

By the way, it was Darren Beattie of Revolver News who's doing great work.

Oh, he's doing great work.

Great work.

He's the one.

I first showed the, well, I couldn't show him the video.

I told him what I saw in the video.

And then when I

did the transcribed interview of the assistant deputy of the FBI, who was in charge of the D.C.

field office,

Darren was like, I think you should ask these questions and this question.

And why didn't they do that?

And I would encourage people, we've released that transcript just recently.

of me interviewing D'Antoineo, and folks should read that.

I mean, this is the guy who was in charge of the investigation for two years, and he has no theory on why these pipe bombs had one-hour timers and were set 17 hours before.

We'll get somebody on that on my staff, get them to tweet that out right away so you can read it.

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The other guy that really needs credit in this is Scott Baker from The Blaze, and we would ask that you would pray for him.

He's on the verge of...

Oh, Steve Baker, I'm sorry.

What is happening?

I'm turning into Joe Biden.

But Steve Baker has done just tremendous work, and please pray for him.

And Scott.

I don't know if Scott needs to

throw him in.

Throw him in.

But Steve, we fear, is...

I mean, he's been notified he's going to be arrested

any day now for his coverage on all of this.

You talk to him.

He's such an aggressive, scary guy.

He isn't even.

You can tell.

He puts you on the edge immediately.

Yeah, not at all.

Not at all.

So, Thomas, there's been another couple of breaking things.

One broke, I think, yesterday or this morning, that

we have now a memo

from, I think it was the CDC, saying that

we can't release the fact that myocarditis may be a side effect of this because we'll panic America.

Did you see this?

I did see that.

And,

you know,

I want to add something to this.

I'm doing my own investigation of the FDA.

And I've done two transcribed interviews that haven't been released yet.

And I plan to do a hearing.

The two people in charge of vaccine approval at the FDA, each of whom had 30 years of experience, were forced out in the fall of 2021

when they got orders from

the Biden administration to go from emergency use to a full-on license.

I remember this.

Because they wanted to do mandates, and they felt like unless they had a license, they couldn't do the mandates.

So

these are people who were in charge of the vaccine approval at the FDA.

And they were basically forced out, resigned because they were removed of all of their responsibilities.

I've got several hours of transcribed interviews with them.

When you have this ready, please come to Dallas.

I'll spend the whole day going through it with you.

I'd love to expose that.

This is

the unexplained or what do they call it, over

the

overachiever deaths or whatever they call it, the excess deaths, is pretty phenomenal.

And that nobody, well, they are overachievers.

They're trying to.

Overachievers is the right description.

I want my death to count.

Anyway,

it is

truly frightening.

Yeah,

there were signals.

This is long past that memo you're talking about.

This is the fall of 2021.

The memo you're talking about was almost as soon as the vaccines came out, I think, in January, February.

But

they knew well about myocarditis and these other side effects.

By the way,

these are actually what I would call kind of

the mythical people who are apolitical, who just go about doing their jobs for decades inside of the government.

They believe in the real science, not the science with the trademark beside it.

And I couldn't tell you if they're Republican or Democrat.

I haven't asked them, but they left because they were being told to ignore the science and to skip all of the things they knew that were right to do.

This, I mean, we're in a very dangerous place right now because the deep state and all of the people that are so corrupt,

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And when that happens,

that's when those people panic.

Don't panic.

We are on the winning side.

Truth is coming out.

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Massey, thank you for being on the program.

Thanks, Glenn.

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Do you remember when that letter came out and it was all the former intelligence people and they were like, oh, this, I mean, we don't have any access to any real information, but that Hunter Biden thing looks a lot like it came from Russia.

Right?

Remember that?

I do remember.

They said it just like that with that voice.

They're like, God, Russia, this just sounds like Russia.

I'm sorry.

That's just the way I hear them now.

No, it is.

It is for me, too.

Hey, I'm Barney from the bar on the Sim sets.

That's exactly it.

Anyway,

some new FBI people have come out

and they just wrote a letter to the honorable Mike Johnson, the dishonorable Charles Sumner, the honorable Mike Turner.

Charles Sumner?

Are we going the way back?

What is happening with you today?

I was like, Sumner, man.

I got to get around eyes fixed, man.

I got to get my eyes fixed.

And there you have it.

Another example of why Glenn Beck is in the Radio Hall of Fame.

Hey, stop for a second.

Let me just teach you something here.

Okay.

You guys are not in the Hall of Fame.

No.

So let me teach those who could someday be in the Hall of Fame.

You work, you work hard, you master your craft.

Okay.

They give you the award, and then you just give up because there's nothing they can do about it.

Really?

Okay.

So anyway, this is going to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the majority and minority leaders,

Homeland Security, Homeland Security, and Government Affairs.

And it says this, subject, the United States is facing a new and imminent danger.

Dear Mr.

Speaker, Senate Majority Leader and Chairman, As former senior executives of the Federal Bureau of Investigation with deep experience combating dangers to the nation, we write to express our concern about a current specific threat that may be one of the most pernicious ever to menace the United States.

Oh, you got my attention.

The danger arises from the nature of the threat itself.

Wars and espionage, bombings and riots are sadly familiar delivery systems of instability, intimidation, and insecurity.

The country

has

faced these more and more throughout its history, but it is held together, though not without struggle.

The threat we call out today is new and unfamiliar.

In its modern history, the U.S.

has never suffered from an invasion of the homeland, and yet one is enfolding now.

Military-aged men from across the globe, many from countries or regions not friendly to the United States, are landing in waves on our soil by the thousands, not by splashing ashore from a ship or parachuting from a plane, but rather by foot across the border that has been accurately advertised around the world as largely unprotected and ready to grant you access.

It would be difficult to overstate the danger represented by the presence inside our borders of what is comparatively a multi-division army of young single adult males from hostile nations and regions whose background, intent, or allegiance is completely unknown.

They include individuals encountered by border officials and then possibly released into our country, along with a shockingly high estimate of gotaways, meaning those who have entered and evaded apprehension.

In light of such daunting, unprecedented penetration by uninvited foreign actors, it is reasonable to assert that the country possesses dramatically diminished national security at this time.

The nation's military and laws and other natural protective barriers that have provided traditional security in the past have been thoroughly circumvented over the past three years.

In 2021, the demographics of those crossing the poorest border on our south started to shift.

Young men from around the world traveling alone and holding questionable motivations dramatically increased in number to become the most common profile of those breaching our nation's borders.

The startling number have been found on the terrorist watch list or are from countries designated as state sponsors of terror distinctly unfriendly to the United States.

This particularly is alarming in light of the Hamas terror attack on Israel on October 7.

Those of us who have fought terrorism know that historically successful terrorist attacks invite mimicry.

We know as well that terror leaders intentionally cultivate throngs of young men possessing certain easily manipulated personality types to carry out these atrocities.

It is stark to say so, but having a large number of young men now within our border could

that could begin an attack gathering of unarmed citizens in intimidation of 10-7, or I'm sorry, in

in imitation of 10-7 and behest of a foreign terror group, it must be considered.

Why is this a computer

It

must be considered a distinct possibility.

We would be remiss not to call this out.

It's a potentially grave threat in the most direct terms.

The warning lights are blinking.

And yet this very real concern does not seem to be getting the focus it logically deserves.

The director of the FBI has correctly assessed an elevated threat level since 10-7,

but relatively little discussion has followed highlighting unsecured borders as

a significant cause of this increasing dangerous environment.

It is troubling.

It's a troubling concern that needs illumination, not avoidance.

Any violation of the nation's immigration laws increase our risk, but the surge in numbers of single military-age males descending upon America cities and towns is alarming and perilous.

Additionally, they are not just from terror-linked regions, but from China and Russia as well, hostile adversaries of the U.S.

with aspirations to devastate national infrastructure.

For those reasons, elements of this recent surge are likely no accident or coincidence.

These men are potential operators in what appears to be an accelerated and strategic

penetration, a soft invasion designed to gain internal access to a country that cannot be invaded militarily in order to inflict catastrophic damage if and when an enemy deems it necessary.

This new reality, this never seen before threat, deserves greater attention.

The borders need to be secured against these young men and those already here illegally.

They must be identified and removed without delay.

This will take coordinated cooperative efforts of the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, and the rest of the intelligence community to achieve.

Yeah, fat chance.

We encourage these actions and much greater congressional attention to this threat.

The country has been invaded.

It is an invasion that will continue as long as the nation's enemies perceive that it will be tolerated.

Until it is stopped, the United States is extraordinarily less safe and secure.

Knowing all of this, it would be a shameful travesty if some terrible attack, as preventable as these attacks would be, were to occur against innocent Americans or the infrastructure that keeps our nation safe and functioning.

The government will have failed grievously.

for it's in its duty to protect.

Sincerely, Kevin R.

Brock, Assistant Director, Directorate of Intelligence, Federal Bureau of Investigation, also Principal Deputy Director, National Counterterrorism Center,

and Mr.

Chris Swecker, Assistant Director, Criminal Investigation Division, Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Both of them are former and retired from the FBI.

That is a clear clarion call.

Now, if you really want to be cynical, you'll say, oh, yeah, but it just came out when Texas said it was an invasion, invoking the powers for the governor in the U.S.

Constitution.

But is there any part of that you don't think is true?

I mean, the facts are behind this letter.

We know that how many out were on the terrorist list that we know of, like 118 that we know of?

People are coming in from Russia, whole swaths of people, men coming in, military aged from China.

You you don't think that in 10 million people there aren't 200 that have nefarious thoughts?

It's insanity.

With what we went through after 9-11, for us to be this intentionally blind

is insanity.

And just yet, another

agent of chaos.

Because that is all

that those who are trying to grab control of the world

and the Western freedoms,

that's all they're about.

Chaos, chaos, chaos.

Whatever you do,

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Okay, there's a couple of things.

First of all, proof positive of what I just said about an invasion.

I want to show you some video here.

I'll describe it as it goes up on the screen.

Migrants are in a boat and they land near San Diego.

They're in La Jolla, California.

And here is a video of it.

You'll see this black rubber boat.

It's just speeding onto shore.

It looks like what our Navy SEALs use, okay?

Same thing.

It's full of people all dressed in black.

It comes ashore.

People are standing there, and you can hear some of them go, wait a minute, what's going on?

Why isn't somebody doing about this?

You hear the cops coming.

Somebody at least called the cops.

I was in Snowball when you were in the morning.

And you see these guys come out of the boat.

They're carrying black bags, some of them, and they're all wearing black.

All identical.

They get off the boat and they run into the neighborhood and they get away.

They're illegal aliens.

Now,

I understand why people aren't doing anything, quite honestly, because they think that they're going to be arrested if they get involved.

And in California, you probably would.

But that should tell you you're not in control.

This country is no longer about you,

the people.

about the citizen and their rights.

You don't have it.

They have it.

And you don't know who those people are.

Didn't that look like a Navy SEAL invasion?

Yeah.

I mean, not maybe a highly trained one.

Yeah.

Not necessarily a well-equipped one.

Right.

But still scary.

And it's a question of how many times do we on a daily basis have that same question in our mind?

Why isn't anyone doing anything?

So you see it over and over and over again.

The president is trying to change the narrative here.

He came out this week and he said, I've never said the border was secure.

What?

I've always said that it wasn't secure.

I want you to listen to the administration over the last couple of years, just some highlights.

Cut three.

You're confident this border is secure.

We have

a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation, including ours and our administration.

The border is closed.

The border is secure.

No doubt about it.

Our border is secure.

The border remains closed.

It is not open.

We are turning away the majority of adults.

The removal of Title 42 does not mean the border is open.

Anyone who suggests otherwise is simply doing the work of these smugglers.

I want to be very clear.

Our borders are not open.

There certainly is not an open border.

We are continuing to employ our immigration proceedings and process and restrictions at the border.

People who cross our border unlawfully and without a legal basis to remain will be promptly processed and removed.

The border is secure.

The fact that the removal of Title 42 is happening in just a day or two doesn't mean that the border is open.

It just doesn't mean that.

The border is secure.

Stop.

So what does he say?

I've never believed that the border was secure.

I haven't said that.

I've been saying that for the last 10 years.

But you won't give me the money.

This isn't about money.

Why is it it did the money suddenly dry up

the minute you got into office?

It's not about the money.

Now let me ask you, who's the one in rebellion?

Who is the one that is telling the truth?

Who's the one that is on the side of law and order and safety for Americans?

Is it the administration that has been telling you now for three years, and we will have 10 million people across that totally secure, closed border?

Is it them?

Or is it the so-called conspiracy theorists?

See, the hard thing with a conspiracy theory is you got to tell people what they really can't see with their own eyes.

It's not a theory.

It's an absolute fact.

Look at it in your own town.

Stand up, America.

You are not someone who destroys, you are someone who builds.

Step up.

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