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We have Representative Barry Lautermilk.

There's a story that we have been trying to get to this week, and we just kept putting it off, putting it off, and I was going to have it.

next hour.

I'm going to try to do it hour three today of the podcast, but I have Carrie Lake on in about half an hour.

so stand by for that.

But Barry has

been looking into the January 6th committee and the deleted files that contain critical information, they deleted them

before the GOP was able to access them.

Now they have recovered them, but we're looking for the password.

And the password is never.

Barry Lautermilk is with us now.

Congressman, how are you?

Good, Glenn.

It's good to be with you again.

Yeah, thanks.

Hey, we haven't tried the password never.

We may just get into the town and see how that works.

Could do hate Trump, could do scam.

I mean, I could go all day on those.

Barry,

what is the significance of these files?

Well, that is what we don't know.

All we know at this point is they were recovered from

a series of hard drives that were given to us that were the hard drives on the computers of the select committee on January 6th.

At one point in my communications with Benny Thompson, who was the chairman of the select committee,

regarding videos that he admitted that they didn't keep that were critical to the investigation.

And these were the videos of the depositions, which even Liz Cheney in her recent book says was so important that we videotaped so the American people could see the truth.

But they decided not to preserve those.

We were communicating with him about that, as well as documents that he sent to the White House and DHS instead of keeping them and giving to us.

In his response to me as to what happened to these documents, why didn't he keep them, he mentioned that they handed over four terabytes of digital data to us.

The problem is we only had less than three terabytes of digital data.

So when we found out that these videotapes were missing, that we searched for those.

They didn't exist.

He admitted to not keeping those.

I don't know where those are.

We're still trying to find those.

You know, can somebody check?

I'm pretty sure the NSA has a really big storage cloud in Utah.

Can we maybe knock on the door and say, hey, are you a lending library?

Can we see some stuff?

That is a possibility there.

We've even gone to the house recording studio, who is, when you normally do a deposition and you have it recorded,

video recording, you just call the house studio.

This is what they do: they bring in the equipment, they record it, and they keep it, and they make it available to you.

And then, when you're ready to archive it, you get it from them.

Well, what the select committee did was different because when

Benny Thompson told us he didn't keep any of these, we just went to the recording studio and said, Can you give us copies of them?

They said, Well, we don't have any because they didn't allow us to have any.

Oh, my God.

They only borrowed our equipment.

They wouldn't even use our people to do the recording.

So that sounded to me like

this was planned from the beginning.

So we hired

trying to figure out where these other one plus terabytes of data were,

we hired an independent outside computer forensics company to take those hard drives and do a low-level scan of them.

And as you would expect, a hard drive that someone uses, you're going to find some deleted files.

Now, if you see files that were deleted early on in the investigation, you know, it's doing work.

You delete duplicates, you get rid of things.

But what highlighted to us was

files, and particularly some that were deleted, that they recovered, that were deleted just literally days or hours before the Republicans took control.

One of those documents that we were

not password encrypted for some reason.

It was found in the recycle bin, was related to the depositions that were sent to the White House.

So there's a deleted file that was deleted on January January 1st, two days before the Republicans took control, related to documents that we know that they had that they sent away and we didn't have access to.

There were also 117, I believe the number, of documents that were password protected and encrypted that we can see the file names we can see what type of file it is

and those names don't match anything that we already have so they are unique documents that I believe we haven't seen before but we can't get into so how critical they are we don't know okay

to give me the password so we are uh

don't we have people that do that I've seen it you know in movies and stuff you put a little box over the password and it's like password is cake like all right so anyway that's my password by the way i've got to change it now but we're talking to uh cherry uh chairman uh barry loudermilk from georgia the um conservative republican from georgia um

the uh is is any of this illegal i mean aren't you supposed to preserve documents i know if this happened and congress wanted information that was on my computer and I just went, whoops, I deleted it all.

I think my butt would be in a chair in front of you guys and you'd be, I'd be in trouble.

Wouldn't that?

You could be, yes.

Because if you deleted it at a point when you knew that Congress was looking for it, or you knew the courts were looking for it, yes.

I mean, you're free to delete anything you want today.

But once you know,

or a letter, and they did know, we sent them letters of preservation.

The clerk's office has rules regarding what should be preserved, and videotapes of depositions are part of that.

Hawaii

is nothing happening.

Well,

we've got to know exactly the extent of where things are.

And

my number one priority is getting the documents.

So we can,

you know,

not only the passwords for these documents, but getting the documents from the White House and Homeland Security that they have.

And so we are,

for lack of a better term, working with with the White House right now.

The four depositions they have that are, these are House documents.

They are not executive branch.

These are documents owned by the House of Representatives.

They are White House employees who testified before the committee, and the chairman sent those to the White House.

We requested them.

They didn't respond, requested them again.

They responded and said, okay, we'll send them to you once we redact them.

So they sent me four documents that belong to the House so heavily redacted, they're they're literally pages.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, Barry.

What do you think about this?

Let me just offer.

I can get on the air now.

I could probably find somebody that goes by the name of like, you know, one-eye, and he can have that thing hacked open, you know, pretty quickly.

And we do it, you know, in the Capitol, you know, under supervision and stuff.

But I think we could get that done.

I cannot believe with the power and the might of the United States of America, we can't open up those files.

We're going to be looking at,

we've contacted some different firms, if you will, that have technology to try to get into these.

Now, some of them say with the new encryption standards, they may not be able to, but we're looking at doing that.

In the meantime, we're just trying to find somebody that has the passwords.

I asked Benny Thompson for him, just a simple letter saying, hey, we found these documents.

Not making an accusation here, but we just, they're encrypted.

Don't know why you encrypt them, but we need the passwords.

And he responded with a three-page letter.

I think he used Ultra MAGA in it about eight or 10 times, making all kinds of blanket accusations.

That seems like

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah.

Seems like obstruction.

And which could be the case.

It could be he doesn't know what the committee did for two years.

Somebody on the staff does.

Somebody knows what those passwords are.

Yeah.

Talking to Representative Barry Lautermilk about January 6th.

There's one other thing I want to hit quickly.

This whole pipe bomb story is falling apart quickly.

I mean, all of the January 6th narrative is falling apart.

Any update on the pipe bomb thing?

I mean, this week we saw the video of an undercover Capitol Policeman who supposedly was just a passerby at the beginning.

Now we find out he was Capitol Police, and he spots it, then goes over to the Secret Service.

They finish their sandwiches, let kids walk by it before they get out of their car and

then send the robot out to disarm it.

What the hell is going on with this?

That is a good question.

We've been working with Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky.

This is something he wanted to take on as a member of the Judiciary Committee and the Weaponization Committee.

So we've been working closely with him, pulling video records, doing some investigative work ourselves.

And

we released in the last couple of weeks that it was an undercover Capitol Police officer.

But even before we knew that, we have video of the person who placed the pipe bomb.

You can watch him place it the night before, and it was obvious that he was putting it in a place to be found.

Yes.

The Secret Service had the vice president-elect, Kamala Harris, at that building.

They were there sitting literally feet away from this pipe bomb and never saw it.

I mean, they are supposed to be doing sweeps in the building before you bring somebody there and that pipe bomb had sat there from the night before.

If you look at the pipe bomb,

if you look at the pipe bomb, it was like designed by Mega Mind.

I mean, it's so clear.

It's got the kitchen timer on it.

It is so clear that it was meant meant to be found

and that it's a pipe bomb that my dog would have sniffed it out.

How did they miss it?

Except they did find it 20 minutes before the vote was supposed to go down on Capitol Hill.

Wow.

And that's where the timer was stopped.

It stopped at 20 minutes before

the hour or whatever.

Wow, what a coincidence that is.

And why is it that Kamala Harris, we didn't even know that she, where she was and anything about this for a year?

And how is it that this is the greatest scandal and the darkest day in American history?

And yet the people that would gain the most from saying there were two pipe bombs, they planned on blowing up buildings, haven't said a word about it.

Why?

And the FBI pulls resources from the investigation and moves them over to

helping prosecute the people that were there on January 6th.

It seems to me a lone pipe bomber would be more dangerous that's still out there

and people who have already, you know,

even if they did something wrong, which there were people that did.

I mean, there were violence that day.

But

there are other people that they're spending an awful lot of resources on what should be misdemeanor charges

that you're going to pull resources from investigating a pipe bomb to go after these folks.

And then there's the issue of the gallows, you know, the infamous gallows that

Biden is using in his campaign right now.

Yeah.

And they were

built the night before in front of police.

At 6 o'clock in the morning.

Yeah.

Why didn't somebody tear that down?

I mean, with all the security, with all the police, with U.S.

Park Police, the FBI, Metropolitan Police, the U.S.

Capitol Police.

in droves all around that area that morning.

And we have it all on tape.

And somebody reported.

Yeah, and we have it all on tape, and we can't find the guys that built it, can we?

Well, the FBI sure hasn't.

That's weird.

An

independent investigative reporter that's doing tremendous work, much like Steve Baker with you have been doing,

has been working on this, and he's gotten more leads than the FBI has.

Yeah, that's weird.

Let me tell you.

Steve has done a tremendous job.

We spent a lot of time with him.

Of course, he's been in our office looking at videos, and, you know, he's doing a great service to the American people by exposing some in-depth corruption.

I know.

Our prayers are with him and our support with him as well.

Thank you.

I will say, everybody at the Blaze, and I ask the audience to do the same, pray for him because

we're expecting him to be arrested any day.

And we don't even know the charges.

And they won't tell him the charges.

And

all he did was investigate.

He was there just as a reporter investigating.

And now that he's exposing things, all of a sudden, oh,

they're going to file charges.

So any day.

Thank you so much for your help on that and everything else, Barry.

Appreciate it.

God bless.

Well, the American people deserve to know the truth.

They sure do.

Thank you.

Congressman Barry Lautermilk from the great state of Georgia.

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Welcome to the program, Carrie Lake.

Hello.

How are you?

I'm doing great are you yes it has been a crazy week oh i i bet it has been uh and arrows are coming your way everywhere um so first of all you know

you know what actually

no i think i think a lot of love's coming my way from the people oh i think the arrows arrows have been coming my way for a long time yeah um the people are just exactly fed up right now and they're they know this stuff's going on and i think it just verified that they're not wrong this is the kind of world we're living in the corrupt world in washington dc and in politics right so so let's let's start kind of at the beginning you this guy was a friend and a co-worker uh he claims that we were friends we were just having conversations um

Do you record all of your conversations or is there a reason why you had this conversation taped?

Did he do it before?

Yeah, go go ahead.

Why would I record this?

Well, I recorded it because it was about two or three in the afternoon, and I got a call from Jeff DeWitt, who is the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party.

And he said, hey, what are you doing?

I got to come over and talk to you.

And I said,

I'm a little busy right now.

I'm actually packing for CPAC.

I think you might have been at that CPAC.

Yep, I saw you there.

Finishing up my book.

I don't have a lot of time.

And he said, well, I'm right in your neighborhood.

I'm going to be there in five minutes.

What I have to talk to you about, I have to do in person it can't be

and I said Jeff at this point I a lot of people knew I was spec

there was speculation I was gonna run for Senate and I said if you're trying to talk me out of running for Senate because I knew he had some friends who didn't want me to run for Senate

you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna entertain that and he said no no no no I just I've got to come over but I have I can't do it on the phone what I have to talk to you about and I just got a bad feeling about it I thought is there gonna be a threat what is why does he have to come to my door and talk to me?

I know I would record that conversation as well.

I just recorded it.

I just thought, if there's a threat, a threat, if he's going to threaten me, I need to have this on recording.

I never even listened to it back until this week.

I just said, okay, go ahead.

Okay, so wait a minute.

So had he, because his resignation letter was bizarre.

If I wasn't doing things, I mean, I've had all kinds of conversations with Stu, but this is what I do.

This is what I believe in.

And if Stu said, I've got some tape and, you know, I'm going to expose it, I would be like, I'd come on and say, go ahead, expose it.

We had many conversations.

Some of them were difficult conversations, but none of them were unethical or illegal or anything like that.

Why would he resign and say, I'm resigning because of her threat that she's got more tapes?

Do you have more tapes?

And did he do other things like this?

No, I don't.

I don't have more tapes.

And that's what is so disturbing about it, that he thinks that his behavior has been so unethical that he thinks there's worse stuff out there.

So you never said that you had more tapes to release.

You never gave that threat to him.

I haven't talked to him, returned any calls, even texted him in a long time.

And this is a bunch of BS.

He's saying that I blackmailed him.

I didn't even tell him I was putting it out.

Usually if there's a blackmail situation, you say this is going out if you don't do that.

So he didn't even know until until the media contacted him for comment, you know, I don't, he didn't know it was going out.

Now, you said this.

Go ahead.

He's behaved in a way that he thinks there's, I think that the response, he said, there's more damaging video out there.

or damaging stuff out there.

And I'm like, what, what could be more damaging than 10 or 11 minutes

of a bribery call?

I mean, is there a snuff film out there?

What the heck is going on with this?

Okay, so I said when this tape came out, I was really angry and said, not another dime should go to the GOP.

This guy should resign.

If this is illegal, they should be arrested, anybody who was involved.

If it wasn't illegal, it should be illegal.

And I said, it's not just about this guy in Arizona.

The most important thing to me was that

A call came from back east.

And the way he said it, it was very knowing.

Do you, and you don't have to give any names because if you do,

you're going to, you can get in trouble for slander or whatever,

you know, unless you have something to back it up.

Do you have a pretty good idea of who he meant by Back East?

I don't know.

I mean, I've thought about it long and hard.

I've got some guesses I could make, but again, I'm not going to do that.

The sad thing, though, Glenn, is you could sit there for hours and think about it and come up with a list of 300, 400, maybe 500 people or groups or organizations that it could be.

And that says a lot about the state of our government, the state of our political situation.

You know, it could be so many different people.

It shows you how corrupt Washington, D.C.

is.

Okay, so

has anybody reached out to you from back east to say, hey, we got to get to the bottom of this?

Anybody from the GOP?

Nobody?

No, nobody from the GOP.

I've had some great people reach out to me, senators who I think are fantastic, who said, oh, my gosh,

you know, we can't wait to get you in the Senate.

We need somebody who isn't bought and paid for and influenced.

And you would think, Glenn, I mean, and I appreciate you for having me on.

And I've had some great interviews already on this, but the mainstream media, by the way, I went public with this within 24 hours.

I went public.

I flew out of town, went to CPAC, changed my entire speech, and I just talked about this.

I said, I just got bribed by a pretty big political person to stay out of politics, you know, basically offering me what, how much would it take to make you, to stay out?

And I brought my whole speech, I kind of wrapped around this.

And the mainstream media didn't reach out and say, who bribed you?

Can I tell you something, Carrie?

I mean, I've heard, I've heard those things before.

I've had things like this this happen to me before, and I've referenced them, but I didn't have a tape.

Why did you not, because I would have had you on the next day had I thought that you had proof of it,

and maybe it was just me for just dropping the ball here.

Why did you wait for the tape to be released or to say I have a tape of it?

Well, I didn't want to release anything, and I also didn't listen to it.

I taped it because I was afraid there was going to be a physical threat.

And when there wasn't, I just kind of put the, you know, put that file away and never even dealt with it.

But I felt that going public with it the next day or within 24 hours when I went on the CPAC stage.

And since then, again, this was 11 months ago.

Oh, I know.

I was there.

I heard you.

And it didn't occur to me to ask you if you had evidence of it.

And I'm sorry.

I should have.

No, that's okay.

Well, but I didn't listen to it until this week.

I just went, oh my gosh, I have a recording of that.

And I was eating dinner with my husband.

My daughter was eating dinner with us.

And I happened to, I tracked it down and found it and hit play while we were eating dinner.

And literally,

as vivid as I recalled it, and I think when I did my speech at CPAC, I described it pretty well.

Our jaws dropped to the floor.

We were shocked.

I went, oh my gosh, this is so much worse than I even remembered it being.

And my daughter was shocked.

She said, tell me that guy doesn't work in politics anymore.

I said, he heads up the Arizona GOP.

And she said, what are you going to do about it, mom?

And I thought, I didn't really want to put that out, but how disappointing when your kids hear something like that and then you just sit on it.

Well, I didn't want to.

I will tell you, you won a primary, did you not?

In the governor's race, yes.

Yeah, but

no, not yet.

Primary happens when

in arizona

in august oh geez i'm i'm i'm up 40 points uh against the uh competitor that how many points how many points depending on the poll 30 or 40 points i'm not really worried so primary here's the amazing thing that you know somebody back east powerful people really want you to go away they don't want you in the senate i know that there is a big senate fund and i'm not making any accusations but i know there's a big senate fund that is uh that the GOP has, that is controlled by one individual who does have

a pattern of supporting people that are not MAGA at any cost, even if it means we lose a Senate race.

And

they're not going to get behind you.

First of all, if you're leading by 30 or 40 points, then

You're the obvious candidate.

Let the people of Arizona decide, but you should be getting support from the GOP.

And if somebody is

trashing our system and they are offering bribes so people go away, that all has to be exposed.

I can't call out corruption on the other side if I don't call it out on our side.

Oh, 100%.

I don't want corruption anywhere.

I don't want it on the left.

No, I don't either.

And right now, Glenn, it seems like we have a lot of corruption in the Republican Party.

And there's just this resist, you know, and I think a lot of it is resistance to Trump.

They don't want Trump running.

And I don't know if it's because he's going to reveal a lot of the corruption.

Frankly, I want people going to Washington, D.C.

who Washington, D.C.

doesn't want.

Oh, me too.

So,

you know, the media now is covering this.

And they're trying to, oh, he was just offering her a job.

It's like, no, no, no.

And they're just, you know, you talked about it.

You have conversations with your friends.

You run a business.

Have you ever had a conversation like this is Is not normal.

No.

Anybody out there who runs a business, if this is the kind of normal conversations you're having, you're probably in the mafia.

Well, quite honestly, I mean, it makes,

it says a lot about people who leave Congress

and before they run for another higher office, they go to work for these companies and seem to bide their time.

There have been accusations by the guy who did it that you edited the tape.

Is there any truth to that?

I put

10 or 11 minutes that involved the bribe.

And I don't know how you could say that was, I forget the word he used.

Out of context.

Yeah, some sort of out of context.

How do you take 10 minutes of bribery out of context?

I mean, Stu and I were talking about this yesterday, and I said the only way it can be taken out of context is if the sentence before was, everything I'm about to say, I'm totally making up, Carrie.

That's the only way to take it out of context.

Or I got to describe a scene from a movie I just watched.

Here's how it went.

Yes.

But that, but the tape you gave us is

creative editing.

Right.

The tape I gave you is an honest tape.

I pulled 10 or 11 minutes.

I forget, I think it's a little over 10 of him trying to bribe me.

But you did not splice around or edit anything out of those 11 minutes?

Nope.

Okay.

It's all of the bribery part.

And I didn't say, hey, welcome.

I got you a cup of coffee, all of that.

But

this is not taken out of context.

This is not creative editing.

Creative editing would be a 30-second clip.

This is a conversation about him driving me.

There's no ifs, ands, and buts, and he's afraid there's worse stuff out there.

It tells you a lot about him.

So, Carrie,

you're a former news anchor for many years.

You know how this works.

And

it is shocking to me that you have evidence of the GOP being dirty, and the mainstream media won't pick it up.

You'd think this would be a story they would run with forever.

Well, and they have picked it up.

And I think initially they were like, what do we do with this?

Because

I am the person second to Trump that they like to bash over and just spread lies about and lie about.

And so they picked it up and they covered it.

And now they're like, oh, wait, what are we going to do?

We've got a GOP guy bribing her.

And they love to attack the GOP, but yet we can't ever make her look good.

So how do we cover this?

I mean,

they don't know what to do.

It's absolutely funny.

I I find it interesting.

Just this week, when this story came out, the Arizona Republic, I call it the Arizona Repugnant, it's gotten that bad.

Our local paper

is following public comments on any of the stories they put out.

They know the public is fed up with them.

The mainstream media is starting to fall apart.

The wheels are coming off.

You saw the hundreds of layoffs at the LA Times.

People have just stunned the lies of the media.

And thank God for people like you, Glenn.

You've been around for a long time telling the truth.

And thank God for the alternative media that's popping up and the independent journalists.

We now have places to go where we can get the unfiltered truth and we don't have to depend on these propagandists.

What is the biggest

thing that you would want to take on in Congress?

Why

in the Senate?

Who would you

ally yourself with?

Wow, that's a good question.

I like a lot of, I think there are a lot of good senators.

I love Rand Paul.

I love Mike Lee.

Of course, they're fighters.

I've gotten to know John Barroso, and I think he's a good man.

But I want to just go and represent the people of Arizona.

I don't want to become part of a clique.

I don't want to, definitely don't want to become part of the back scratching club that.

that Jeff talked about.

Despicable.

Or the backstabbing club.

I'm sure there's one of those.

I'd rather be in the butt kicking club, to be honest.

And I want to take on the border.

And I say that with a bit of reluctance because I have a feeling that I'm hoping the border is going to be taken on before then.

I mean, how much longer can we take?

Can we wait until January 25?

What do you think about

Texas saying that it's an invasion and

calling up the National Guard?

and the fact that the Democrats are saying the president needs to federalize them and take that power away from the governor.

Well, I was the first, when I ran for governor, I was the first candidate in the country to come up with a border plan.

And it called for me on day one,

taking the oath of office, to declare an invasion and put the National Guard on the border, take back the right and control of our border.

Exactly what's happening now is that.

I remember.

I wish somebody would have done it when you didn't.

I wish somebody would have taken your idea and done it a little earlier, but we're here now, and it is clearly an invasion.

I'm glad it's happening.

And somebody said to me at the time, well,

what if Joe Biden sues you?

What if he goes, sue him?

What's he going to do around the governor?

Yeah, bring it on.

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Our good friend Thomas Massey.

Hello, Thomas.

How are you doing, Glenn?

I'm good.

I'm good.

I got a couple of things to talk to you about, but I would really like to hear what is happening with the January 6th pipe bomb.

There is so much breaking news on this this week that it is

shocking.

Shocking.

Well, let me tell you where this all started.

When we took the majority, remember the Democrats had the majority for two years.

When we took the majority, it became possible for us to go look at the videos of January 6th.

So my staff sat over there and watched dozens of hours.

We found something that had never been released.

I worked for weeks.

I finally went all the way to the top, got Kevin McCarthy to pull some levers, and I got a video released of the second pipe bomb being discovered.

They've never talked about who discovered the second pipe bomb.

So then

I got to talk to the assistant director

of the FBI.

This is the guy in charge of the investigation.

For two years, he was in charge of this investigation.

And it wasn't just a little chit-chat, and it wasn't five minutes in a hearing.

We had several hours with him in a deposition, a transcribed interview.

And I put these questions to him.

For instance, how does a one-hour kitchen timer on these bombs, how does it supposed to set the bomb off 17 hours later?

Because remember, the FBI said, oh, these were planted the night before.

We've got videotape of this person walking around putting these bombs out, one at the RNC, one at the DNC.

But when they were the next day, the question is, how the heck can they go off?

And

he told me, I said,

I asked him, do you think they intended for the bomb to go off the next day?

He said, I can't speculate on that, sir.

I said, well, let me ask you this.

Do you think it was technically possible for a kitchen timer?

No, no, he said.

I said, that has a one-hour duration.

He said, no.

I said, to detonate a bomb 17 hours later.

He said, no, I don't.

And how come they both stopped at 20 minutes till?

Yeah.

I mean, what are the odds?

The synchronicity of the discovery of these two bombs, my question is, how hard did they look for the third bomb?

How did they know there were just two bombs?

They'd be like, all right, let's wrap this bomb thing up.

We got them both.

But that's kind of their attitude.

The interesting thing is, the video you released

shows that the source was a Capitol Police officer, right?

Off-duty.

I have not interviewed that person yet.

They say plain clothes.

Plain clothes.

So Capitol Police Officer finds the bomb, and the picture is comical because it's just sitting in front of the bushes.

It clearly, I mean, it looks, all it's missing is acme on the front of it.

It looks like a pipe bomb with a, you know, wires coming out of a kitchen timer.

All right.

It's ridiculous.

Nobody, nobody finds this.

Just about 20 minutes before

the vote is going down, a plain clothes police officer happens to spot it, and then he goes over casually to the Secret Service, talks to them casually for a while, then goes around the other side of the window,

talks to that officer, then leaves, and the Secret Service don't leave their car.

Then

children.

Yes.

Kids.

Children.

Oh my gosh.

A whole group of little children are walking by, and the FBI is not saying, or the Secret Service are not saying, hey, can you cross on the other side of the street, please?

Nothing.

Nothing.

How is that happening?

What did he say?

I said, would that person, by the way, I don't know for sure that it was a plainclothes Capitol Hill police officer.

I don't know that for certain until I talked to that person.

But I have reason to believe that's probably true.

I asked him at the time, before we knew that fact, or suspected that fact, I said, would the people who found these bombs be suspects?

And he said, absolutely.

That's Investigation 101.

And I said, well, who found the bomb?

He said, I don't know.

But he's been running it for two years.

For two years.

Here's the other thing.

I asked him, okay, how confident are you that the person you have on video the night before is the person who planted those bombs?

He said, very, very confident.

They said, well, how did that work when you went to, did you use the cell phone data?

Did you geo-fence and locate this person?

And this is when he told me what is unbelievable to me.

And he said, I don't want to start any conspiracy theories, but

the data was corrupted from one of the providers.

And that's probably why we couldn't get the way we can't figure out who this person was.

The data was corrupted.

They can find the thousands of grandmas

and go break down the nursing home doors to throw them in jail, but the data was corrupted on that guy.

Wow.

It's the dog ate my homework explanation that just doesn't match up.

Did you ask him about the video that they have shown that is at

a frame rate that no security camera has ever had?

I asked him about that.

I asked another in a follow-up briefing from the FBI that I had just before Christmas, I asked another person about that and the alternate angles.

They've got different different angles from that camera that they seem to not be releasing or showing us that would show the person actually placing the bomb the night before.

Right.

Remember, we've got video of a person, but we have no video of

either near the DNC, with actually closer to the Capitol Hill Club than the DNC.

And we have no video of them placing it at the RNC.

Sorry, RNC,

Capitol Hill Club are next to each other.

DNC is further down the street.

So

I asked the

assistant director in charge.

This is Stephen D'Antoano.

He's since retired from the FBI.

By the way, he wait, wait, wait.

He's also the guy that got a promotion.

He was in Michigan.

He was the guy who thwarted and oversaw the operation on the Whitmer kidnapping case, which was a joke and thrown out.

So

because of that great success, he was transferred and put into Washington, D.C., which

is the place that everybody's trying to get to.

And then after this, he suddenly resigns.

It's weird.

What happened?

Yeah, well,

not until he had a non-investigation for two years of the pipe bomb.

I've talked to people who live in that vicinity.

They have townhouses near where the person allegedly placed the bombs the night before and and where the bombs were found.

They weren't talked to until months later.

Like, you have to be there.

The evidence starts disappearing, you know, within hours.

For instance, as this person walked around the neighborhood, there's Wi-Fi.

Did you go check the Wi-Fi routers?

Did their Wi-Fi try to connect to somebody's cell phone?

Did Bluetooth devices try to connect?

There was no effort, as far as we can tell, and as far as I know from talking to the people that own townhouses around there, to do that.

There's a complete lack of diligence here.

Let me ask you:

you know,

motive plays a real role here.

Who would

have the motive

to place bombs in a place where you know it's going to be 20 minutes before the vote and the vice president is inside of that building?

who would have motive of doing that?

Really, really, really, really bad guys, right?

Or those who are trying to put together a setup, correct?

A narrative.

Right, right.

The indictments, the indictments on all the J.

Well, I don't know if it's all the J6ers.

I just learned this last night from Kyle Seraphin.

He says that the pipe bombs are mentioned in the narrative that was used to indict them.

Oh, my gosh.

So you have this you have this narrative except if it was really nefarious people

why wouldn't the vice president the dnc uh the media everybody else why wouldn't they be digging into this story and talking about these pipe bombs for two years we've not heard anything about these pipe bombs Why?

What would the motivation be if it was planted by somebody nefarious?

Are they suddenly just becoming just very, very, very Christ-like and saying, well, we can forgive and forget.

By the way, it was the incoming vice president who was like 30 feet from this bomb for what would have been

a long time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they're not, I mean, why have they not played that up?

In fact, they kept the fact that she was at the DNC where this pipe bomb was out of public knowledge for a long time.

But why wouldn't they use that to say, look,

the first

African-American female vice president was almost murdered on

January 6th.

It is the most egregious part of January 6th, if it would have happened.

And if you believe those were nefarious people that put those in, you would be all over that.

You know, if we found

the bombs in the World Trade Center

wired to the

pillars and we caught it in time, we would be saying they planted bombs, thank God they didn't go off, and the pillars of the World Trade Center.

Why wouldn't you do that with this?

You know, with the Boston bombing, they were at the Macy's where the pressure cooker was purchased within 36 hours.

They had identified

where the pressure cooker came from, and they were getting the video off of the Macy's camera within 36 hours of that bombing.

So

let me ask the question the other way.

So, what would the motive of the bad guy be?

What would the motive of the quote, you know, air quote good guys be

to not diligently follow all these leads to just sort of try to memory hole this whole episode of these two pipe bombs?

And I would say the motive is

the most charitable interpretation is that they were Keystone cops and they don't want to be embarrassed by they were terrible at doing all of this and they're embarrassed.

They're more charitable than I am.

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't believe it.

I'm saying that's the charitable.

I think the more probable motive is that they were somehow involved, just like in the Michigan case

where

they were trying to, you were poking either, and I'm not saying it's somebody who gets a, you know, goes to a cubicle at fbi or somewhere and and draws a salary maybe these were assets

and they were running something to try to ensnare anybody who was thinking of having you know pipe bombs there well they would gravitate toward this effort if it was hanging out there um in the you know subversive underground but they've totally they're just totally trying to memory hole this i'm trying to get this out there um by the way it was Darren Beattie of Revolver News.

He's doing great work.

Oh, he's doing great work.

Great work.

He's the one I first showed the, well, I couldn't show him the video.

I told him what I saw in the video.

And then when I, you know, did the transcribed interview of the assistant deputy of the FBI, who was in charge of the D.C.

field office,

Darren was like, I think you should ask these questions and this question.

And why didn't they do that?

And I would encourage people, we've released that transcript just recently of me interviewing D'Antoineo, and folks should read that.

I mean, this is the guy who was in charge of the investigation for two years, and he has no theory on why these pipe bombs had one-hour timers and were set 17 hours before.

We'll get somebody on that.

On my staff, get them to tweet that out right away so you can read it.

Back with, do you have a second?

Can I ask you another question?

The other guy that really needs credit in this is Scott Baker from The Blaze, and we would ask that you would pray for him uh he's on the verge of oh steve baker i'm sorry um what is happening i'm turning into joe biden uh but steve baker uh has done just tremendous work and please pray for him and scott i don't know if scott needs

to throw him in but throw him in yeah uh but uh steve we we fear is i mean he's been notified he's going to be arrested uh any day now for his coverage on all of this such a you talk to him he's such an aggressive scary guy he isn't either you couldn't tell.

He puts you on the edge immediately.

Yeah, not at all.

Not at all.

So, Thomas, there's been another couple of breaking things.

One broke, I think, yesterday or this morning, that

we have now a memo

from, I think it was the CDC, saying that we can't release the fact that myocarditis may be a side effect of this because we'll panic America.

Did you see this?

I did see that.

And,

you know,

I want to add something to this.

I'm doing my own investigation of the FDA.

And I've done two transcribed interviews that haven't been released yet, and I plan to do a hearing.

The two people in charge of vaccine approval at the FDA, each of whom had 30 years of experience, were forced out in the fall of 2021

when they got orders from

the Biden administration to go from emergency use to a full-on license.

I remember this.

Because they wanted to do mandates, and they felt like unless they had a license, they couldn't do the mandates.

So

these are people who were in charge of the vaccine approval at the FDA.

And they were basically forced out, resigned because they were removed of all of their responsibilities.

I've got several hours to transcribe interviews with them.

When you have this ready, please come to Dallas.

I'll spend the whole day going through it with you.

I'd love to expose that.

This is

the unexplained or what do they call it, over

the

overachiever deaths or whatever they call it, the excess deaths, is pretty phenomenal.

And that nobody, well, they are overachievers.

They're trying to overachievers.

I want my debt to count.

Anyway,

it is

truly frightening.

Yeah,

you know, there were signals.

This is long past that memo you're talking about.

This is the fall of 2021.

The memo you're talking about was almost as soon as the vaccines came out, I think, in January, February.

But

they knew well about myocarditis and these other side effects.

By the way,

these are actually what I would call kind of

the mythical people who are apolitical, who just go about doing their jobs for decades inside of the government.

They believe in the real science, not the science with the trademark beside it.

And I couldn't tell you if they're Republican or Democrat.

I haven't asked them, but they left because they were being told to ignore the science and to skip all of the things they knew that were right to do.

This I mean, we're in a very dangerous place right now because the deep state and all of the people that are so corrupt,

it's all coming undone and it's going to be exposed.

And when that happens,

that's when those people panic.

Don't panic.

We are on the winning side.

Truth is coming out.

As always, Thomas Massey, thank you for being on the program.

Thanks, Glenn.

You bet.