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Well, hello, America.

Welcome to the program.

A day after Iowa.

And not not a lot of surprises.

A few surprises for people like Nikki Haley

and CNN.

They were weeping in the control room yesterday.

Huh.

Sucks to be you, doesn't it?

But not a lot of surprises.

But I do want to say for everybody who is on the left who's freaking out, oh my gosh, it might mean another Donald Trump term.

It's going to be end of the world.

Let me just put this into perspective.

You have Donald Trump on one hand, or

you have this on the other hand.

I see our college students

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Steve?

Steve?

Did he...

This is an unfortunate thing.

He's

there.

Fourth Reich got him.

Yeah, Fourth Reich.

Wow.

After all this time, sad ending for our friend Steve.

Did you see the

New York Times mentioned Steve from last night?

I did see that, yes.

I actually had a...

Hold on one second.

Let's see if I can find it.

They were talking about how Steve came out on stage last night for DeSantis and interviewed DeSantis, who he did correctly predict would come in second as opposed to Nikki Haley.

Yeah.

Yeah, it said Steve Dace, the conservative Iowa radio host, is on stage to introduce Ron DeSantis.

It feels like a bit of an alternate reality as he claims that DeSantis' second-place finish has made the Republican nomination contest a two-person race.

Nikki Haley almost beat DeSantis here at Iowa where he was heavily favored, and the road ahead is not kind.

That's from a New York Times reporter.

Yeah, so we're next is New Hampshire.

When is New Hampshire?

A week from today.

Week from today.

So that will be very telling because she's doing well.

But she, if you look, she was doing well in

the, you know, the more urban sections of Iowa.

If you look at the whole heat map of where she did well,

it were very few spots.

And that makes sense to me that she does well where there's colleges, universities, or cities.

We have Steve Dace here.

Hi, Steve.

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Apparently, we're having some technical difficulty.

Yes.

Of course, you're correct, Glenn.

That is where she did well.

And she, I think, won one county where she was the only other person other than Trump that won a county in Iowa by like one vote.

But she goes to New Hampshire, where she does have a chance, much better chance than she had in Iowa.

We talked about this yesterday and talked about how

we both expected that DeSantis would edg her out in Iowa.

I think DeSantis did enough to keep going on and see what happens next.

She's going to obviously look to New Hampshire and if she can either win or come close in New Hampshire, hope to get a bump in her home state of South Carolina.

There's also Nevada mixed in there, which is a very strange situation this cycle.

But,

you know, I don't know.

It's tough to see anybody in a normal circumstance having a chance after this.

Maybe there's something else to see.

And of course, there's always the possibility of

some extra legal

situation where they either throw him off the ballot, Trump off the ballot, or they put him in prison or whatever.

That's always there as a possibility.

So this race will probably go on in some weird way for longer than it normally would.

Steve, I know that you were upset at the beginning because they called it so quickly for Donald Trump, but it's really not a surprise when you are that far ahead.

I mean, he was, what, 29 points ahead?

Quite a victory for him.

It was a very impressive victory for the former president, for sure.

I think there are two streams of thought coming out of this.

One, what it means for the primary, and the other, what it means for a general election.

But just real quick on the calling the election, I mean, guys,

the most blown up my phone has been this entire caucus cycle was people from precincts around the state who had not even voted yet getting text alerts.

And regardless of how you apply that to last night's results, because it seemed like a fait accompli, the same media that maybe you like doing that right now, if you're one of those people, my guy won, so he was one by 30, so it doesn't matter.

Understand those same media, they're going to do that to your guy in 294 days.

All right.

They're doing that.

So hang on just a second, though.

It's not that you were saying this is a conspiracy theory.

You were just just saying, let's wait until at least the polls are closed, in this case, until everybody has had their word in the caucus.

Yeah, I mean, you know, you and I sit there

in 2016 or 2020 on that election night, Glenn, you and I until like 3 in the morning.

And you heard me yelling at Fox about what they were doing in Arizona and everything else.

There's no way they could be calling this.

This is the same principle at stake.

And so I think it's a terrible idea to have media.

AP, as you know, is the mouth of the corporate media river.

To have the Associated Press calling races and then Fox on top of that before people have actually voted is a terrible precedent to set that I promise they will use against us in a broader setting in 294 days if we let them.

Well, maybe the AP misunderstood,

you know, because it is only one letter away from what they usually call early and often, and that is racist.

Maybe they just didn't hear that the T was gone and we were calling races this time.

Steve,

tell me about DeSantis and the road forward now.

I think if I were sitting with him one-on-one,

this is what would be my challenge to him moving forward.

I mean, he peeled away 20% of the president's base because I think we all know he's not getting the moderates and the liberals.

So he peeled away 20% of the president's base.

His, and you're right, he did enough to punch a ticket out of here, as Stu just said.

The challenge that he has moving forward is the challenge that he's always had in this race, which is that his voters are the same as Trump's voters.

Yes, sir.

And so while there's this like Twitter mythology that DeSantis' brand has been destroyed, his favorables

have remained very high and very high with Trump voters throughout this cycle.

As this moves to more of a mono-e-mano now, and now he has to more directly challenge Trump in ways that he has started to do in the last few weeks.

What I will be fascinated to see, and I really don't know the answer, is how much patience and tolerance will those voters have for that?

Will that hurt his favorables moving forward, or do they actually want that?

I don't know the answer.

And so that's the thing that I would tell him is be meticulous about your favorables.

You are 45 years old.

You're not going anywhere.

You're the governor of Florida.

You're going to be there for another term on a massive stage, taking names or kicking ass or taking names and taking ass and kicking names to quote Guardians of the Galaxy.

Okay.

So, you know, as long as people, your voters are saying, hey, yeah,

challenge the patriarch here and let's see what happens, then go for it.

But the minute that those voters say to you, all right, this thing has run its course, that's where you need to be mindful of.

That's what I would tell him.

Yeah, I would think that you're very close to that.

I mean, I think the time for DeSantis to do that has almost passed in the minds of many voters.

I mean, there's a lot of people that, you know, still would love to see DeSantis because we'd get a second term out of it.

But Donald Trump has

really established a dynasty here.

And

if his poll numbers hold up in

other states, if he continues, if he repeats this by South Carolina, it's done.

It's done.

I don't disagree with that.

And I think if you put the Wonder Woman lasso of truth around that, probably Ron would feel that way as well.

But I do.

Here's the thing, though, and Stu just pointed this out.

This is not a typical cycle.

We have lots of ancillary things happening here.

And that's the one thing that, you know, who knows what comes out?

of these Supreme Court appeals between now, I think South Carolina's February 24th.

Who knows what comes out of these things, what gets attempted with these things.

Those are the wild cards there, but barring things of that nature, you're not in control of any of that.

I don't disagree with that.

So Nikki Haley, looking at Nikki Haley's numbers, she did well where Democrats usually do well.

And

she seems wildly out of step.

No, I shouldn't say that.

She seems in step with the same people that would like Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham.

And, you know, there, there, I guess, is a place for that in the,

you know, in the Republican Party.

I wish it wasn't the one that is in control in Washington, but it currently is.

But she's a Tea Party person.

Is this just strategic for her?

Or do you think she believes this?

I think, well,

the answer to your question is yes.

For those people, everything is strategic.

I remember being at CPAC one year, and Mitch McConnell came in waving an AR-15, and the crowd roared during the Tea Party years.

I mean, you know, we used to use the term rhino.

The term I like to use, you know, to me, Chris Christie's a rhino.

A rhino is someone who isn't good enough to be on Team Democrat, so in a blue state, so they have to join Team Republican where the bench is then.

A Republicrat is someone who can get elected in a red state.

They know the talking points we want to hear, and so they can get elected doing that.

And then when they go in there, they can govern in a centrist or center-left way as they prefer.

That's what Nikki is.

That's what McConnell is.

That's why, you know, John Cornyn in your state.

That's why we have all these guys in red states.

They know what the lingo is.

They know the vernacular.

And then they know that when they go to Washington, we won't pay attention.

But she doesn't have a base in this party.

I mean, you mentioned what her, I mean, she beat, the reason it was, it was closer for second than I thought, she beat DeSantis among crossover voters 32 to 8.

32 to 8.

So

there were not nearly as many democrats that voted here as we saw even in 2016 but she cleaned up amongst those people that's that's her base so from a primary standpoint that she doesn't have a base moving forward what i think will be fascinating to see for her is what happens in new hampshire now in the in the next week or so does she actually challenge the president head-on Or is,

which is my theory, the real goal here is to get her on the ticket.

I think you saw the Koch brother pour $70 million into her race, almost like a dowry, to say to the Trump people, hey, we know you're cash strapped.

If you put her on the ticket and let the corporatist wing of the party become reascended, there's a lot more money where that comes from.

And I think to my friends over

in the inner sanctum of MAGA, I think you're going to have a real fight on your hands to keep her off of the ticket.

And I think that would be a terrible outcome.

for the corporatist wing of the party to re-emerge just at the time that we have them pretty much buried.

I think to let them re-emerge through Nikki Haley, I think would be a terrible outcome for us, and I don't think we should let that happen.

However, that is the role of the vice president traditionally to

give the front candidate extra breathing room and grab some people that he or she may not be able to grab.

I happen to agree with you.

They're about extinguished, and the last thing I want is somebody who is in bed with big Pentagon and big war and everything else.

I don't want a Lindsey Graham on that ticket, but wouldn't it be smart for Donald Trump to win to be able to gather some of those people who may not vote for him, just may not vote at all?

His biggest worry,

if you look at the exit polls last night, and if we go to the general election side of this,

the two things that I would be concerned about, number one, I told you yesterday Glenn turnout was going to be low.

It was way lower than I expected.

I did not expect a 41% drop.

Now I'm hearing, hang on just a second.

I'm hearing all over television last night that these people came out in droves.

They weren't afraid of anything.

That's not true.

His people did.

His people did, you know, but

his most hardcore people did.

But a 41% drop in overall turnout,

I would like to say that was really the weather.

It still is terrible here.

But my caveat there is all of last year in special and off-year elections, we underperformed badly.

I mean, Democrats outperformed demographics in special and off-year elections last year around the country by an average of nine points.

And so I want to see what, I can't think of a primary cycle in American history where a party had a diminished turnout in a primary cycle and then had a successful general.

So I think that is a number we all need to look forward to moving forward.

Now, a lot of that,

here's another caveat.

A lot of it could be a lot of our people like, well, what's the point in voting?

The guy's so way ahead.

So I'll just, you know, see you in November.

That's a possibility, okay?

But a 41% drop, especially when it was a nine-point drop with white evangelicals.

I'm just telling you right now, you cannot, as a Republican, win a presidential election with depressed white evangelical turnout, no matter how many of them you get.

So those are two things I'd watch.

And then the other thing that I saw in the exits that concerned me for November

is, you know, Trump was at 41% in the four most populous counties in Iowa, 10 points below his state average.

That indicates, again, weakness in the suburbs.

That's been our biggest problem.

You know, Trump has helped open up the rural part of the country.

Iowa is one of those places.

And in exchange, though, we've lost suburbs the last several cycles in a row.

And that's what I would be concerned about moving forward in a general election.

And those are the two things I'd be looking at in the future states.

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You know,

I think if the person who comes in second in the next three or the next two, you know, up in New Hampshire and South Carolina, I think should start making the case because I don't think this would hack off.

I mean, it would make Donald Trump probably angry, but it wouldn't hack off his supporters.

And that is, look, we don't know what's going to happen.

We have to have a number two.

Number two is never important in this.

It is this time.

And, you know, I know that might cut his

numbers down just a little bit, but I don't think he's in danger of losing those states.

But having a number two, I think, is critical because we don't know what these people are going to do.

I think you made a very important point and one I tried to make throughout the course of last year that factored into my own DeSantis endorsement, because I can promise you, if we don't have a number two and

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what the GOP Rona Rona Romney McDaniel system is going to give us is not going to be a Vivek Ramaswamy or a Ron DeSantis.

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And Stu, I haven't really heard your analysis of last night.

So Pat and Stu are here.

Why don't we start with you, Pat?

Okay.

It went about like I, well, it went almost exactly as I predicted it.

I think that's a surprise to everybody that Donald Trump won, but I knew.

I knew going in.

You were the guy.

Yeah, I was the one.

I knew the dark horse naysayer in the crowd saying, I think Trump is going to win this thing.

I got the order exactly right up until

Ryan Binkley.

Yes.

Dang it.

Asta Hutchinson.

That is the most devastating story.

Oh my gosh.

If you're a bad person.

Are you going to continue in this raid?

Could you just tell us who Binkman is?

Binkley?

You mean Ryan Binkley?

I mean, Ryan Binkley.

Well, I was just joking there.

It was

funning you on that.

He's a Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex businessman.

Oh, pastor.

Yeah.

So, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

He's from our hometown.

Yes.

And we've never heard of it.

And we've never heard of it.

Yeah.

But he beat Asa Hutchinson.

We started out the morning by

getting in touch with Steve Day saying, Steve, who's Ryan Binkley?

He's like, I don't know.

That is a really sad story.

I mean, you know, Asa Hutchinson has been flying around the country by himself, coach flights, doing events with one person.

Yeah.

He's been on television on the debates.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if that helps your Q score and people know who you are, but this other guy,

Binkman

hasn't done any of those.

Binkley.

No, he hasn't done any of that.

No.

And the the finals,

Binkley got 0.7%.

Yeah.

And Hutchinson got 0.2.

It wasn't even close.

You beat him by half a percent.

Hutchinson barely, barely squeaked it out against Chris Christie, who dropped out of the race already.

Barely.

The poll that I saw, it said Chris Christie negative 0.1.

And I know that has to be an error.

But then again, maybe not.

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

I will say this.

I was happy to see DeSantis beat Haley.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what he had to do, right?

Like the low bar he

absolutely had to clear was not finishing third.

He talked about his ticket got punched out of the Hawkeye state.

And I think his ticket was, I got to beat Nikki Haley at least.

He has to.

He has to be.

It would have been catastrophic for him.

It would have been immediately over.

And if you know what's

what's really bad is we have pitted DeSantis and Trump against each other.

I mean, this is a contest, but I would vote for either one of them.

And I think most Trump supporters would say that the same thing.

If Donald Trump were hit by a truck,

DeSantis would be the guy.

They're not going to Nikki Haley.

And that's the unfortunate thing.

I was really impressed with Donald Trump's

speech, the tone of his speech last night.

We all have to come together.

And he was nice about.

Yeah, he was very kind and nice about that.

And one thing we haven't talked about is Vivek, which I think Vivek drops out.

Remember, he said he wouldn't yesterday, but I figured he would.

That was,

I think,

to help Donald Trump in the long run because the Vivek people were also taking votes.

Not that Donald Trump needed them, but he was also also taking votes away from Donald Trump.

I can't help but wonder if Vivek's entire candidacy was to run interference for Donald Trump.

That's what it seems like to me.

Because, you know, he was always loyal to Trump.

He really never said anything bad about him.

I think the worst thing he did was take that photo op with the supporters who had

saved Trump vote Vivek.

And that pissed off Trump a little bit yesterday.

And I don't even know that that came from his campaign.

I think they might have just had that printed up on their own.

I don't know.

But it doesn't matter.

So let me ask you:

save Trump, vote Vivek.

I'm not sure I get the message from the t-shirt.

What the hell does that mean?

I think what it meant

was basically

Trump is going to be, everyone's going to be going after him.

If you vote for Vivek, he's going to pardon Trump.

And

if they convict him of all these things, that was, I mean, he made that pitch during the debates.

I mean, again, everyone's so sensitive in these times.

Like, the fact that he posted posed for a picture with a couple of people with a dumb message on their shirt.

Like,

he's been darn supportive.

He's been incredibly supportive.

I mean, honestly, at times, it's felt like he hasn't even been running for president.

I don't even know what he was doing on the campaign show.

There have been a couple of times in the debate where I'm like, Donald Trump doesn't have to be there.

Right.

Vivek's there.

And Vivek is saying that he's the greatest president of his lifetime.

It's like, well,

why would I vote for you?

Right.

But oddly, one thing that's really an odd, odd, complicating factor on this is I think there's an easy way to believe that Vivek was like, okay, I'm going to finish at Iowa.

I did my piece.

I'll endorse Trump.

Hopefully I'll become the VP or get some other role.

And I've got a future in the MAGA movement.

Right.

I think that's a very easy, cynical way of looking at this.

The one thing that complicates that is his interview yesterday, where he was more critical of Trump than I've seen him at any other point during the entire campaign.

He seemed completely convinced he was going to have this breakout moment with his ground game and everything else.

And of course, every politician says that, and it never happens.

But, you know, I don't know if he was really convinced of it because he sort of volunteered an anti-Trump argument in the last hours, which was a bizarre moment yesterday.

We were talking about it a little bit off the air, but he immediately finishes fourth and drops out and endorses Trump

in his

concession speech.

Yeah.

I would hope that Donald Trump would pick him

as

the vice president.

I mean, I would say that.

Over is it Taley, but I don't think so.

I will be shocked at that.

Trump does not take kindly to people who trashed him.

And she began trashing him,

you know, when he was still in office.

Yeah.

She was trashing him.

Doesn't mean getting over such things, though, with anyone who supports him.

All right.

But like, he has, he's, Trump can get over that pretty quick.

I mean, you heard him yesterday.

He was like, you know, DeSantis and Nikki, great people.

Love him.

We had a great contest.

We got to come together.

Like, he's already there because he thinks he's already won.

Right.

But there's a difference between Trump

saying nice things about you

and the Trump that trusts you and brings you into his inner circle.

There's a very big difference.

I think that I will be surprised because he does get, you're right.

I mean, he brought her in after she was very anti-Trump in the 2016 election, he brought her in for the U.N.

ambassador gig.

And they've gone back and forth, warming and cooling to each other.

But one thing I was thinking about, tell me if I'm wrong on this.

I had this theory.

I was thinking about this when they were talking about the VP.

What's the one

thing Donald Trump is going to try to cure from his last VP pick?

The one thing that if you think, if you asked Donald Trump about his vice president today, what would be the first thing he would bring up?

Loyalty.

The election.

The election.

Loyalty.

If there is a person who he's thinking about to name as a VP,

and that person would be someone he could see having that Mike Pence, no, the Constitution is too important.

Again, I'm thinking from his perspective.

Oh, the Constitution is too important.

I'm not going to listen to you, Donald Trump, on this one.

If he thinks there's any chance that person's doing it, he's not picking them.

I can't imagine him doing that again.

That's a good point.

I think he's going to i mean that would lean you toward vivek vivek or maybe

again i don't know how he sees these people but christy noam or stefanik or someone who would not nikki haley is not the type of person who's going to be like you know what i'm just going to just uh i'm just going to take whatever trump wants and i think he's going to want someone after this pence experience that he views that way again that's his vit his view I don't think there's any chance he's going to pick someone who he thinks might do that again.

And Carrie Lake seems to be out there.

Yeah, Carrie Lake doesn't seem to be out.

She fits that profile, but he said last night, you're going to make a great senator.

He's got to have somebody that can make a strong, intelligent case.

That's what he needs.

Somebody who looks stable and

make the case.

Vave makes the case better than anybody I've heard in a very, very long time.

Maybe the first politician that I've ever seen that could make the case and tear things apart

and be accurate, maybe ever in my lifetime.

Both of them.

Carl and Stefanik, though, have a way of making that case, too, from a totally different place and a totally different approach.

And also, you know, not as,

I don't know, sometimes I think Trump doesn't like people who are arguing on his behalf that are too

spotlight stealing, right?

I think they both would do, they do a good job.

They're smart.

They fit the profile.

If you look, I've got to take a break, but if you look, Vivek, Donald Trump would be the kingmaker for a new generation and setting that new generation in place.

I think that plays a role.

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You know, I think

Christine Noam fits the profile of who Donald Trump would

ask to be the vice president,

you know, and not because South Carolina is going to pull any, or I mean, South Carolina, South Dakota is going to pull any votes.

Usually, that's what you do.

In the past, you would get the person that is, you know, that has the most amount that you can co-opt all of those voters.

And that wouldn't be Christy Noam.

However,

he could pick her because she's a big fan.

Also, she's right in line with him.

And

she might help him out with the female.

vote.

Yeah, certainly one of Trump's weaknesses in 2020 was suburban women.

She may help with that at some level.

At least

he is showing that that is

also still

a very targetable group.

Yeah, and she would, you know, Chrissy Noam would defend him well.

She's smart.

She, you know, out of central casting, as Donald Trump always says.

So, I mean, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's definitely a possibility there.

Stefanik has made a name for herself as well, I think, and is seemingly

a strange profile for a big Trump supporter, but has been a big Trump supporter.

So, you know, maybe a possibility there.

There's a few you could see.

I just don't see the Haley thing.

I think a lot of people are saying that, you know, that the machine wants her to be the nominee.

Maybe, maybe it'll happen.

I wouldn't be stunned.

I just don't.

It doesn't seem like a huge damage.

What about Chris Christie in a dress?

I'm just saying.

If he identifies as a female and tempers his hatred for support of Donald Trump just a little bit,

maybe,

maybe, you never do.

Weirder things.

Strangely, I mean this.

Weirder things have happened recently.

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We have the news on Iowa and what comes next.

We also have Steve Baker in.

He's an investigative journalist, a Blaze Media correspondent.

He has been following the January 6th debacle almost from the very beginning.

In fact, he was there that day, but he's been trying to get his hands hands on the videotape of January 6th.

Well, that's been hard to do, and we know now why.

He broke a few weeks ago a story on Blaze about

the possible perjury, but he didn't have the videotape to prove it.

He does now.

This is a massive, massive story that shows that Nancy Pelosi's security detail committed perjury during the Oathkeepers January 6th trial.

This leads you to the understanding that the January 6th trial was a possible setup entirely, or did they just exploit what was happening and turn it into what we now think of as January 6th?

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I don't mean to make this sound like it's something we're all excited about, but somebody that is, I expected to be in jail already.

And we're expecting that you may not last the month before you're arrested by the FBI.

Any updates on that?

The only update we have was given to my attorney between the week of Christmas and January 1st, and that was a conversation he had with the new U.S.

attorney that has my case.

And that new U.S.

attorney told him that now they have moved my self-surrender date back to mid-January and that they would give me seven to 10 days' notice because they have, I will tell you, for two years, they've respected my travel schedule and

have at least shown that kind of courtesy.

But

it's the middle of the month now and we still haven't heard back from them yet.

Now, they did tell my attorney at the time when he asked, well, can you just let us know what the charges are going to be?

And the AUSA said, no, we're not going to tell you.

Well, why is that?

And I kid you not, Glenn, the U.S.

attorney told my attorney that they won't tell me what my charges are or what I'm facing because they said I will tweet it out immediately.

Well,

yeah, so what's the problem with that?

I'm not exactly sure.

Yeah, okay, so Steve, so we have a lot of new people listening today.

They, you know, saw what happened in Iowa last night.

They want analysis on it.

We're going to get that to you here in a second.

But for people who haven't been following why they're after you, it has to have something to do with the fact that you were in the building as a journalist, just like the ABC and NBC people, and you took video and you started to say, this isn't the story that everybody is saying it is.

Then about two months ago, you put together a video for the Blaze that showed Nancy Pelosi's security detail, who is instrumental in the convictions of a lot of these people.

Tell me, bring me up to speed.

We'll play the first part of the clip.

Tell me what we're going to hear in this clip.

It's very important for people to focus in on one thing here.

Special Agent David Lazarus, who was on the dignitary protection detail for Nancy Pelosi, he testified in the Oath Keepers trial that he witnessed the interaction between the Oath Keepers and Harry Dunn, Officer Harry Dunn, who's now running for Congress, by the way.

Yes.

And that he saw this interaction, this highly antagonistic interaction between the Oath Keepers and Harry Dunn three or four times is what he testified in great detail in that trial.

The problem with that, Glenn, was that Special Agent Lazarus was not even in the same building.

And we secured the Capitol CCT video that I don't think they ever thought we would get access to showing that that's the truth.

So

let me play the first part of what just broke yesterday.

It's from Blaze TV

and it is an investigative report, again, by Steve Baker.

Here's the setup of what Steve said prior to, so you'll understand the importance of this videotape in cut two.

Listen.

The story of David Lazarus on January 6th is very simple.

Lawyers for Stuart Rhodes and four other members of the Oath Keepers on trial have suggested that the group helped Officer Harry Dunn.

Dunn just took the stand and said flat out, quote, they didn't.

Sentenced to four years in prison.

sentenced to eight and a half years in prison sentenced to 12 years and sentenced to 18 years in prison his story that day is he was assisting the evacuation of the senate at the time that the

incident between officer harry dunn and the oath keepers began

Just outside of the Rotunda, there was Harry Dunn.

He's a Catholic police officer.

He was freaking out.

I mean, he was screaming,

no, get the f ⁇ out of here.

He had a rifle.

I mean, it said he might get taken out, but he was going to take a bunch of people with him.

He was definitely in a position where he could have done some damage.

The oath keepers lined up between him and the more agitated protesters and assisted him in keeping them off of him.

Don rejected the defense's argument that members of the militia protected him.

I don't conflate my story.

He had two separate FBI interviews, which were in conflict with one another.

In the first FBI interview, he actually gave a favorable story about his encounter with the 40th key.

After he was brought in for his second FBI interview, he changed that story.

He was fighting back insurrectionists across the Capitol while being called the vilest racist names.

So what they did is they brought in another officer, special agent, David Lazarus, to kind of bolster that story and give it more credibility by saying that when he arrived at the top of those stairs, that he saw Dunn standing at the top of the stairs being hassled by these oath keepers.

At the time the Harry Dunn Oath Keepers encounter began,

he was not in the same building.

Wow.

Now, what this video, if you're not a Blaze TV subscriber, what you're seeing on the screen are the time stamps, there's about eight different cuts there, of where everybody is in the Capitol.

You see it on a map through graphics, but you also then see the Capitol cameras.

What's so frightening about this, Steve, is

they didn't think that anybody would get this footage.

And the lie is

so clear that it is a lie.

And basically, to put all of these people in jail based on that lie,

it is terrifying what our government's willing to do to its own people.

It's terrifying that they are still trying to cover this up.

As a matter of fact, we learned just a few days ago that Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger has stated that he has no intention to investigate this internally or to investigate the actions or the testimony of Special Agent Lazarus.

That's correct.

And

what's also amazing, and we show this in this particular video, we show a screenshot of an internal Capitol Police leadership email that I received from one of my sources inside the building who sent this to me back in the original release that we did when we started talking about this without the videos back in October.

That they were very pleased that this story was not getting traction at the time.

But now that we have the videos, this thing really blew up on the social media sites yesterday.

Okay, so tell me what we're going to see and hear now.

Part two.

This basically is going to take us through

the part where we see Lazarus now emerging to the area where he claimed that he was, but this is long after the oath keepers have left the building.

They've certainly left the area and are exiting the building.

But this, once again, it solidifies the fact that, and it really brings home the fact, Glenn, that these individuals were testified against improperly.

They were lied against.

Certainly, at the very least,

not only their convictions, but their sentencings were much worse as a result of these testimonies between Harry Dunn and Lazarus.

And the fact is, is that neither one of these cops who testified in this trial could possibly have

experienced what they said.

As I said before, they gave very, very specific and detailed testimonies, and both of them are not only in conflict with one another, they're in complete conflict with the truth.

Okay, here's part two.

This was released yesterday.

Listen to this.

Lazarus was just not there.

He could not have seen, he could not have witnessed what was taking place because Lazarus was in another Senate office building across the street from Constitution Avenue.

So we were able to track Lazarus on the Capitol CC TV cameras.

Lazarus can be seen moving away from the Capitol building through a lower tunnel at 2.37.59 p.m.

Lazarus continues moving toward the Senate office buildings at 2.41.49 p.m.

During Officer Lazarus' October 31st trial testimony, he stated that he began his return to the Capitol building after hearing shots fired over Capitol Police radio.

That occurred at 2.43 p.m.

1443 hours.

Here, Lazarus can be seen moving back toward the Capitol at 2.45 p.m.

Dunn's encounter with the Oath Keepers began at 2.44 and lasted roughly between five and six minutes.

Here, Lazarus finally emerges from the tunnel back to the Senate side of the Capitol building at 2.48.

Dunn falsely testified that Lazarus was already at the location where he encountered the Oath Kepers before he arrived.

But Lazarus can be seen at the top of the elevator leading up from the tunnel at 2.48 p.m.

on the Senate side of the Capitol, over four minutes after Dunn encountered the Oath Keepers on the House side.

I mean,

how is this not being investigated?

I guess this is where you come in.

If it wasn't for people like you, we wouldn't know.

If it wasn't for places like the Blaze, this story wouldn't be be told and it would just go away.

But in a surveillance state, and that's really what the Capitol grounds are, it's a surveillance state.

You can track every movement of everybody and tie them all together.

It takes a lot of time, as you know.

But in a normal circumstance, this would mean that those people who were tried and convicted with this testimony, they would either go for a mistrial or they would be immediately released.

That's the way America has always worked.

And no one is doing anything about it.

They think they're going to get away with it.

Is that just because people aren't aware of it?

Well, they're not aware of it, but I will tell you that we are working very, very closely with congressional members and staffers on this particular story, as well as the other stories that

we've currently got in development.

As a matter of fact, Representative Barry Lautermel, who is the chairman of the Subcommittee of Oversight from House Admin, they just announced a couple of days ago that they have been given three times the number of staffers from House Speaker Johnson for the specific purpose of investigating January 6 matters, and I can confirm that now.

But we have been, I have sat with Mr.

Lautermilk several times.

I have met with his chief of staff and his staff members on many occasions now.

And I think that

at the very least, before a committee is called or another J6 select committee is convened, they are going to bring these officers in for transcripted interviews under oath.

Thank you very much, Steve.

I really appreciate all of your work.

And we pray for you.

And I ask America, pray for Steve Baker.

He is under threat from the U.S.

government just because he's telling the truth.

How do I know it's the truth?

He has the video evidence.

Steve, thank you so much, Blaze Media correspondent and investigative journalist.

And if you don't have this video yet, you can find it online.

You can go to Blazeblaze.com.

You can also find it on Blaze TV, but tweet this out and spread this as much as possible.

This tells a completely different story, and there is nothing but facts.

You cannot argue this at all because everything is time stamped.

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You know, the Democrats are talking about how horrible it is that Donald Trump could get in because he could make this a fascistic state.

He could jam things through the court system, et cetera, et cetera.

Let me ask you, what the hell are the Democrats doing right now?

I mean, this should show to everyone who doesn't believe in the deep state, doesn't believe that we are on a path of dictatorship.

And it could be either party, gang.

When you do this much damage to the republic either side could become a dictator that's why it's important for all of us to know the constitution and to fight for constitutional rights no matter who's involved if if this videotape came out and you saw that donald trump and his people had edited and suppressed tape and put people into jail for 18 years would you be for it

because I wouldn't be.

I would be just as mad as I am now.

But I am also mad at the American people.

We get what we deserve.

And if we don't start standing up for the Constitution, we're toast.

We're absolute toast.

We will become a dictatorship.

And I don't know who will make us one, but we're already on that road.

The things that are happening, the fact that the police

will not pick this up with

the truth, the evidence, the videotape.

How do you argue videotape?

Stu, help me out.

How do you argue videotape?

You say it's AI, but we know it's not AI.

How do you argue that?

That's basically the last thing.

That's the last bastion, right, of arguing videotape.

We've seen it.

People do that recently.

Yeah, I mean, it is.

Audiota, videotape, you argue AI, but that's about it.

Yeah,

there's software now that you can run, and you can run all videotape through and it will tell you if it is if it's a digital fraud or not.

You know, this we know is true because we're part of the group, the Blaze, that went into the archives at the Capitol.

We're allowed in with five different reporters at the same time to review all of the videotape.

We know.

what that videotape shows on this case.

We know it.

We got it from the federal government.

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I don't think so.

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Real quick, we're going to give you all the details on what happened yesterday in Iowa.

I don't think there were any real surprises except for maybe

Ron DeSantis coming in second and Nikki Haley coming in third.

I think that might have been a surprise to Nikki Haley.

It wasn't to anybody on this program, and I think if you've been paying attention, also,

Ramaswamy has now dropped out.

And we'll give you some more on the exit polls coming up in just a second.

But there's

some really amazing things.

The exit poll, and Stu, I know you want to get into this, and we'll get into it a little bit later on what the exit poll

has

actually tells us about stolen elections.

But

I feel compelled today to talk to you about

how unaware we, maybe all of us are,

how we are just not self-aware at all

because each side is accusing the other of dictatorships.

Right now, everybody, the Biden administration wants to round everybody up that says, you know, that there was an election fraud,

wants to discredit all of them, call them crazy kooks, et cetera, et cetera.

And last night, what was the number, Stu, on the exit poll of people going in to vote?

How many of them said that Trump had the election stolen from him?

About two-thirds.

About two-thirds of Republican voters.

Do you know the number exactly?

It was like in the 60s, wasn't it?

66.

About two-thirds.

66.

Yes.

It's about two-thirds.

It's

66.6%.

Okay.

So

now

the Democrats will call these crazy kooks.

But the Democrats, what was the number of Democrats when polled that said that Donald Trump was not a legitimate president because the election was stolen in 2016?

It's even higher, right?

It was in the 70s.

78.

I think it was 78, 20, 72.

But it was higher.

So you can't have it both ways.

All right.

We know that they've been claiming fraud forever.

That's why people who are caring about the Constitution are asking for things like voter ID, paper ballots, blockchain, anything like that.

It doesn't make sense that

you want to jail people or silence people on one half if you were the other half that have been saying it election after election.

Here's what the New York Times has just said to the Republicans.

Republicans who will gather in Iowa and others to cast their first votes of the 2024 presidential primary season have one responsibility to nominate a candidate who is fit to serve as president, one who will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

That's the first thing the New York Times has said that I absolutely agree on.

And I will tell you, you've got to find somebody who will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Without the Constitution, well, we're this, what we have right now.

Donald Trump, the Times says, who has proved himself unwilling to do so, is manifestly unworthy.

He's facing criminal trials for his conduct as a candidate in 2016, as president and former president.

In this, his third presidential bid, he has intensified a multi-year campaign to undermine the rule of law.

Now, who has undermined the rule of law?

I would say those who said enough with the police force have done an awful lot of damage to the rule of law.

That said our court systems, our justice system, our police officers are all racist no matter what the facts are.

I think they've caused a lot of problems with the rule of law.

He said that if elected, he would behave like a dictator on day one.

Now, I believe that's true.

He will act like a dictator on day one.

But what does that mean?

Then I'll come back to it.

Then, they say, he also said he would direct the Justice of Department of Justice to investigate his political rivals and his critics in the media.

Oh, you mean like what the Justice Department is doing right now?

He also has declared the greatest dangers to the nation come not from abroad, but from within.

President Biden has given multiple spooky speeches about that very thing.

Look, here's what you need to understand.

Trump did say that he would put Hillary in jail in 2016.

He did.

But we told you at the time, take him seriously, but not literally.

He believes that the Republic does not go after opponents before or after an election.

You don't do that.

That's what a banana republic does.

Personally, I think the case against some of these people on both the right and the left is so huge and so important.

The case with Clinton, now with Russia gate, is even more so than it was in 2016.

But the point is, he said it, but he didn't do it.

Biden, on the other hand, did.

He is on record speaking to the Department of Justice in meetings at the White House where he said he wanted Trump in prison.

Find it.

Do it.

That's a dictator.

Now,

when it comes to him saying he's going to be a dictator on day one,

well, yes, on day one, yeah, I guess so.

Because what happened with Biden's day one?

See, we've already had dictators, and this is the problem.

We're not following the Constitution.

We've already had dictators, but they were dictators to where we didn't really,

it didn't affect us that much.

And so we were willing to put up with it.

They're called executive orders.

It's why Trump could make things happen without Congress.

Congress is broken.

They've given up all of their power.

So the presidential administration makes up their own laws and rules without any representation.

Okay?

We are a republic, which means we have representatives that we elect.

That's the power of the people.

We hire somebody to make the laws, but Congress no longer makes the laws.

They've given up.

And so they've passed it to the administrative state.

We don't elect those people.

I don't even know who those people are.

And they make the laws.

So when the president says, I want to give people back their money for their student loans,

it doesn't have to go to Congress now, or that's the case they're making.

That is a dictatorship.

So when a president will come in like Trump or Biden, Biden, a single person can come in and reverse everything that Donald Trump did.

In essence, he's dictating without public or any congressional input.

Okay, we didn't vote for those things.

Congress didn't vote for those things.

So he's put them in.

Now, when Trump says he's going to be a dictator on day one, that's what he means.

I will stop all of this stuff through executive order.

But if you're going to condemn somebody for saying that, then you have to condemn yourself first.

Listen to this.

This comes from MSNBC last night.

If we're worried about the rise of authoritarianism in this country, if we're worried about the rise of potential rise of fascism in this country, if we're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and potentially fascistic form of government, that leader who is trying to do that is part of that equation.

But people wanting that is as much bigger part of the equation.

And the American electorate is made up of two major parties.

Now, listen to what Matt Ow said.

One of those parties has been flirting with extremism on the ultra-right for a very long time.

When they first labeled the right extremists in the

21st century, they were labeling people who were the Tea Party movement.

The Tea Party movement wanted

lower spending, spending that was in control.

We wanted the same thing the Democrats wanted, which was the Congress needs to read every bill and have time to read every bill.

No more secret deals.

We also wanted a return to the constitutional norms, a return to the budget process, which we haven't had since 2008.

There is no budget for the United States.

That's what we were asking for.

And

if that's extreme, then yes, I'm an extremist.

If a call to go back to the Constitution, to question all of these foreign wars, to make sure we rein in the power of the federal government and empower the local and state government, then if that's what makes an extremist, then yes, I am an extremist.

But that's only an extremist in the point point of view from somebody who is an extremist for

dictatorships, for vast control of the American people through government.

She said, they've brought them in a way where they haven't been central, where they haven't been central to the Republican electoral politics ever before.

But once you have radicalized one major party so that those are the preferences of the people who adhere to your party, the leader is interchangeable.

You mean like the guy who can barely talk or function could be replaced with somebody else, or you could have a good candidate, but you don't really care who the candidate is, even if this guy is completely incapable of running the country?

You mean that extremists just allow that to happen?

Is that what you mean?

She said Trump is a miss sometimes that we call it.

The MAGA movement is probably a better way

to do it.

So she is calling

us extremists.

Okay, I understand that,

but what is an extremist?

In America,

an extremist would be someone who rejects our founding principles, someone who rejects our Declaration of Independence, somebody who

disagrees and rejects our constitutional and and our Bill of Rights, the actual rule of law.

When you say somebody can be listened to and hacked into without a warrant,

I'm sorry, that's an extremist because Americans understand that the country is built around the Bill of Rights.

And if America doesn't understand that,

Well, then we're in even bigger trouble.

Then we all have become extremists.

Matt Bennett, co-founder of the progressive third-way think tank, went so far as to warn that the consequences of a failure of the Biden reelection campaign could mean the destruction of the United States.

Everybody's nervous, he told the outlet, and the downside risk isn't that Mitt Romney becomes president.

Now think of this.

Mitt Romney was Hitler.

Mitt Romney was the worst president ever.

He was going to destroy the Republic.

Remember that?

Milk toasty, Mitt Romney was a danger to the Republic.

Now they're finally admitting, no, it's not Mitt Romney.

It's somebody else, somebody who actually believes in something.

It's that the Republic collapses, and so people

are

scared and afraid.

We invite everyone concerned about the existential threat that Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans pose to our freedom and democracy to channel their energy towards organizing, donating, and talking to their friends about the stakes of this election.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with that.

That is very American.

I urge you to do the same thing.

The question is:

which is the extremist?

The side that now says, you know, Hamas,

it wasn't so bad what they did.

That

we can live side by side with people who put babies in ovens.

No,

no, we really can't.

This entire election is really all about what is extreme

and

what is

American.

This election is truly all about voting for which one is going to bring us back to our founding principles.

There's going to be a lot of strife because we've gone way overboard.

We are all in lifeboats and they're all leaky.

Which one is going to have the principles and

the support of the people to bring it back to constitutional rule?

I don't know, but that's for the American people to decide.

But I will tell you that if you just look at the record of the last 10 years of what the Democrats have done, even in the last three years, I think it's pretty obvious.

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Haley would have the biggest lead over Biden in a hypothetical general election matchup, 53 to Biden's 45.

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Davos is in session this week.

There's been some changes through the dictatorial process of executive order and through the administration.

Your representative probably hasn't been heard on this.

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And the number one thing they feel is the greatest threat is misinformation and disinformation.

The second biggest threat is misinformation and disinformation in elections.

They believe that people like me lie and tell you falsehoods.

And,

you know, what we say about the World Economic Forum is absolutely untrue.

They're not trying to destroy.

They're trying to build a better world where we all can be free.

I don't believe any of that, but that's what makes me a threat.

So they are trying to work on how to combat disinformation, what they call disinformation or misinformation, from people like me, how to combat people like me

and anybody who speaks out against the World Economic Forum, the WHO, COVID, any of that.

They are also hearing

the arguments from the World Health Organization that disease X is right around the corner corner and they need to band together because last time we acted fast, but this one's going to be worse.

And we have to even act faster.

And that's why we need to have,

you know, digital identities and national IDs.

And we have to have all of our information given to the government.

We've got to do it quickly because of Disease X.

Now, I'm not an extremist.

I believe in the rights that were given to man, man, woman, I don't care if you're an independent Democrat Republican you're a space alien I don't care we are all created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights and those rights begin with our own bodies and you can't tell me what I have to put in my body to be legal no that is my decision well what about abortion well abortion is different because it involves another child

You know,

if we think that a child is a child in the womb and we think it's a child just because the mom wants that child, and so it's actually a baby,

and if mom doesn't want it, it's just a clump of cells, that's insanity.

That is a sign that you have a serious mental disorder.

It's always a baby.

You just don't want to admit it's a baby because then you'd be killing babies.

But that's becoming becoming more and more popular

as we go.

Now, it seems like killing babies and killing perfectly healthy people and

letting, in fact, in Canada, helping teenagers commit suicide because they're depressed.

I'm not somebody that agrees with that, and I question the doctors that are.

The reason why I'm talking about this is because I want you to know the left is talking about a dictatorship.

I'm talking about the Constitution.

The Constitution will tell us that our administrative state is out of control.

I don't want anyone to have control where they can write laws and tell us what we have to do through administrative action.

We're a republic.

That should go through Congress and then signed by the president.

And if it's unconstitutional, go to the Supreme Court.

But the left and Joe Biden has done all kinds of things that are very, very un-American.

One of the things that is very American is that we have our own choice.

We lead our life in a certain way.

If I want to do business and do one thing, I can do that as long as I'm not harming others.

But now we're taking this away, and the Department of Health and Human Services have now issued new regulations that rescind conscience protections for doctors and nurses who are are forced by their employers to perform procedures that violate their beliefs.

So we're talking about forced sterilization, abortion, assisted suicide, gender transition surgeries.

This, you won't be able to be a doctor if you disagree with doing those things.

You're not going to, according to HHS and this new regulation, you no longer have the right to say, I can't do that for religious

reasons.

This is extraordinarily disturbing because I know who progressives are.

Now, you might be a progressive and say, well, I don't agree with the killing people and everything else, but you have to understand,

if you don't have that understanding, it doesn't mean that other progressives at the top don't have that understanding.

You are looking at a group of people, and let's use the WEF, that are truly in a death cult.

How could I say that?

Well, anyone who says we should get rid of all of our energy before having energy to replace it is sentencing millions of people to death in the cold.

They're sentencing to death when it's hot and there's no air conditioning.

You're sentencing them to starvation by taking away fertilizer because you put the planet above people eating.

Now there's a happy middle where we can all go, but you don't replace something with nothing.

Otherwise you're causing death.

It is truly a death cult.

Otherwise, honestly, we would be investigating all of the things that how did COVID happen?

Where did it come from?

What really happened with the vaccine?

What is the danger?

But we're not doing any of that.

Only crazy people are doing that.

Let me tell you

how this actually works.

And I want to do it by telling you about the crime of the century in the early 20th century.

The arrogance of saying something is the crime of the century because you hear that over and over and over again throughout a century.

But sometime during the evening of March 1st in 1932, there was a 20-month-old baby that was kidnapped.

snatched from his cot in the nursery on the second floor of the family house in New Jersey.

Dad was downstairs, didn't hear a thing.

A broken ladder was found nearby, along with footprints, tire tracks,

and on the windowsill, a handwritten ransom note that just said, baby safe, instructions later, act accordingly.

It was the crime of the century.

And the reason why it was the crime of the century was not because the ransom was $50,000.

This is in the 20s, so that was an awful lot of money.

That's about a million dollars today.

today.

It was paid on April 2nd.

It's not because of the biggest manhunt that had ever spread across the U.S.

It's not that the poor defenseless baby had been stolen.

The reason this was the crime of the century is that the child was the son of Charles Lindbergh.

He was the national hero who had completed the first solo flight 3,600 miles non-stop from New York to Paris in 1927.

Now,

what happened in this is

Charles Lindbergh was never investigated.

He wasn't considered a suspect.

Even when six weeks later, the child's battered body was found less than five miles from his home.

It was discovered by a pair of delivery drivers who had stopped for a comfort break in the woods.

Coroner examined the corpse, determined the cause of death, two heavy blows to the head.

Lindbergh Sr.

helped lead the investigation, which two years later resulted in the conviction of a German immigrant who was still protesting his innocence as he was strapped to the electric chair.

Everyone's heart was broken by the child and Lindbergh's wife, Anne.

But is any of that true?

Investigation after investigation was stopped

because Lindbergh was famous, he was connected, he was also a very deep progressive.

Now, Lise Perlman, she is a retired judge, she's a celebrated author, she has now come out with evidence that says, no,

that's not what happened.

She believes that not only did Lindbergh have a hand in his son's death, but he may have sacrificed his son because he was disappointed in his son.

He sacrificed his son to medical science, permitting his pal Alexis Carroll, the Nobel Prize-winning scientist, to experiment on his child, then fake the kidnap to cover up the disappearance and the death of the child.

Apparently, Lindbergh was very disappointed that his firstborn son was, quote, in his words, a weakling with an abnormally large head.

And so her theory is, is that he thought his child could be more useful

research than to him and Anne.

She says, my theory is the child was operated on.

We think at the very least that his caroid artery and probably his thyroid were taken out and kept viable for 30 days.

We think he died on the operating table.

But there's more.

I think Carol conducted the operation with Lindbergh's permission and Lindbergh was likely present.

It It surely beggars belief that Lindbergh, a national celebrity, could have committed such a heinous crime.

In 1928, he was Time magazine's man of the year because he's the guy who jump-started air travel.

He went on, became a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, explorer, and environmentalist.

He was the American dream at the time, but perhaps not.

She said she has lots of leads

on the kidnapping that were not followed.

About a dozen state witnesses likely committed perjury, she said, and the prosecution had 90,000 pages of investigation.

They didn't let the defense see.

This throws up some really uncomfortable questions that nobody wants to talk about.

And they say these are rumors, but I believe these are facts.

He was very anti-Semitic, as was Henry Ford.

He was a Nazi sympathizer.

He was also a liar and a serial philanderer.

Together he and Anne had five children, but Lindbergh fathered another seven, the products of three separate affairs happening, and none of his illegitimate children were allowed to know who their dad was until after he died in 1974.

He was controlling, he kept a log, a note on each child's

transgressions, and insisted that Anne record every cent of household expenses in in a ledger.

But most damningly, he had enthusiasm for eugenics.

I don't think I need to tell you what eugenics are, but he really believed we needed to weed out the weakness and improve the genetic quality of the human population.

He also was very much into the pioneering of organ transplant surgery.

Makes for disturbing reading.

He was obsessed on how we could keep organs alive and be preserved outside of the body long enough to be transplanted.

If this would have happened, he would have revolutionized medicine in 1930.

But this is where this is coming from now.

The evidence looks like he might have actually been experimenting on his own son.

Don't know if this is true, but it should be pursued.

The reason why I tell you this story is

Lindbergh is very much like some of the people today that you look at.

Noah Haval Harari is one of them.

He is a scientist, I guess, that you could talk to anybody at Davos, talk to anybody in the elite circles today, and they'll say he's one of the greatest minds ever.

However, his words truly echo the early eugenists that say there are unlivable lives, there are going to be useless people, and we have to decide what we're going to do with those useless people.

His first attempt to deal with them is to drug them and just get them online and keep them online where they can just waste away online.

Useless people is also the things that Charles Lindbergh signed up for, the things that anybody who was in the medical field signed up for in Germany it wasn't the jackbooted thugs that were killing children it were it was doctors and nurses scientists and great leaders of the world it came from America and then went to Germany so when I read something that Biden has is trying to once again clean out the medical community of anybody who objects to anything because they have a religious conscience.

That is a check and a balance on our medical and science community that, quite frankly, if you don't think we need it after what happened with COVID, I think you're sadly mistaken.

These people are very, very dangerous.

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So there's something else that I think you need to know.

If you go to the IBM website and you look at IBM and AI and medicine, you'll see how is artificial intelligence used in medicine.

Artificial intelligence in medicine is the use of machine learning models to search medical data and uncover insights that help improve health outcomes and patient experiences.

Thanks to recent advances in computer science and informatics,

artificial intelligence is quickly becoming an integral part of modern healthcare.

AI algorithms and other applications powered by

AI are being used to support medical professionals in clinical settings and ongoing research.

They talk about how this is going to be a support tool that will become more and more important to doctors because it will check doctors.

Now, my question is, who's programming this?

We know it's AI, so it's going to take programming, and it's coming from IBM.

I would just like to remind you that it is

the computer, the AI computer that is used now now by doctors that is specially made for medical treatment, is called, I think it's Watson X, I think.

Watson is the name of this AI program.

It's named after Thomas Watson.

In case you don't know who Thomas Watson is, he was first a star salesman, and then he became the head of IBM

in the 1930s.

He was a big supporter of Adolf Adolf Hitler.

He did a big relationship and a big business relationship with the Nazis.

And

the concentration camps used IBM computers.

The train system used it as well.

It's how they knew how many people to take from the ghetto and who to take from the ghetto to put on the train and where that train should go.

It's how they became so efficient.

IBM sent repair people over to the concentration camps.

They were the ones helping.

And now IBM is the one helping our medical community with a computer named after the guy who was working with Hitler to liquidate the Jews.

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but uh he was what was the final was it 51 or yeah donald trump 51 percent gets 20 delegates ron de santis 21.2 percent gets eight delegates.

Nikki Haley, 19.1%, gets 7 delegates.

Vivek Ramaswamy finished at 7.7% and gets 3 delegates.

Those are his, even though he's dropped out of the race.

He'll still have them at the convention.

And then Ryan Binkley, pastor from Dallas, 0.7.

And Asa Hutchinson, 191 votes statewide.

After a year of campaigning, he gets 0.2%.

He

did worse than

Binkman.

Binkley, and it was not even close.

Right.

It was not even close.

That is crazy.

That is crazy.

Catastrophic for poor Ace.

Ace is on Suicide Watch today, I think.

Don't let him have his shoestrings or a belt.

Let me talk now about what's coming.

There's a new poll out for New Hampshire, but this is without any of the news.

that happened last night.

So this is a poll that was taken just after Nikki Haley started to show some growth.

So we don't know what it means today, whether it'll affect it one way or another, we don't know.

But here is the latest poll from New Hampshire.

Yeah, this is New Hampshire, and it's, I think, American Research Group who did the poll.

This is the 12th through the 15th of this month.

So it includes yesterday, but obviously would not include anything after the results.

Correct.

And it has Donald Trump and Nikki Haley tied at 40 at the top in New Hampshire, followed way, way, way, way, way back with Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSedas still both on the ballot

at 4%.

Why do you think she's doing so well in New Hampshire?

Largely, it's because of the way the primary works.

You're going to have a lot of independents and Democrats, and she's going to crush in that group, as she did in Iowa, by the way, but the numbers in Iowa are not nearly as high as they are in New Hampshire among those groups.

She does very, very well in those groups, wins by wide, wide margins.

And

that will help her

there, but it won't help her in these other states.

This is the problem of the candidacy.

Have you ever seen any research done on

whether people switch and say, you know, I'm going to vote for the Republican and I'm usually voting for Democrat or vice versa because they mean it?

Or is it just a screw with the election?

There are definitely some.

The percentages are relatively small when you're talking about people doing the what Rush Limbaugh used to call Operation Chaos back in 2008.

There's definitely some that do it.

The majority of people who vote in those primaries, typically, at least according to the polls, are people who are either legitimately considering or undecided voters who are looking, or they are people who

are deciding to vote that way for sure.

There are always some, but I mean, like, for example, one of these states, I can't remember, it might have been, I can't remember which state it was now that I've looked at so many polls over the past few days, but it was like 2% of the electorate consider themselves liberal, right?

So it's not a massive part of this.

In a tight primary like the one in New Hampshire, it can make a big, big difference.

And of course, in New Hampshire, you have a lot of people who are moderates, maybe libertarians, maybe people who are even leaning a little bit left that may consider Republican candidates where you might not see that in, you know, other states like New York or Massachusetts or Vermont.

There's maybe a more independent electorate there in New Hampshire, which we kind of all recognize.

But look, Haley has a chance to actually win New Hampshire.

I don't know if this...

My guess is it doesn't really hurt her for finishing third by two points behind DeSantis.

It doesn't hurt her in New Hampshire.

You know, when we were talking about the way these polls came out and I or the votes came out in Iowa, there were a couple of different dynamics, right?

There was a question of whether Donald Trump could clear 50%.

He did do that.

There was a question of who would finish second.

We saw with DeSantis squeaking out.

I mean, I think he had to beat her, and he did.

He had to, or he would have been done.

Yeah.

Nikki Haley, look, you know, Nikki Haley, if you go back six months, this is a dream result for Nikki Haley, right?

But, you know, she wound up being a little bit below expectations of the last couple of weeks, but still a decent showing, and she's still in the game in New Hampshire.

And then Vivek Vivek Ramaswamy, who was promising all sorts of things yesterday with big turnout,

and he drops out almost immediately after promising to stay in.

Of course, that happens every year.

So you look at

Ron DeSantis because people will say, hey, Ron DeSantis,

he didn't make any inroads.

People don't feel the way they thought they felt about Ron DeSantis.

That's not true.

He is,

I think, if you're voting for Trump, he's either number one or number two for you.

You know, he's as far as you're either going to vote for Trump if he's the candidate, but you would rather vote for Ron DeSantis, or you're voting for Trump and if he was out, you'd vote for Ron DeSantis.

So it's almost

in many ways the same voter as Trump.

So

why vote for Ron DeSantis when you've got Donald Trump to run?

So it's,

I don't think his position in the party or any, I don't think this says anything about him for a run in

what will it be

28.

Yeah.

Uh, you know, look, I think the polling shows that he's still popular within the party.

He's usually the second choice of Trump voters.

Um, and you know, of course, there is a much different profile as a candidate of what, you know, the way they run their, you know, run their operations, right?

Like, so, you know, you're going to see some differences there.

But what's, I think,

what's interesting,

it's like right now, you most people would argue, even though Ron DeSantis finishes in second place, that Nikki Haley is really in second place in this campaign right now.

She's about even with DeSantis nationally.

She has a much better chance of winning a state that is coming up soon, which is New Hampshire.

The next state after that, you know, Nevada's caucuses are a little weird.

So leaving them aside, you go with South Carolina as the next big state.

And South Carolina is Nikki Haley's home state.

You You could see there's an argument there.

But the difference here is while Ron DeSantis is probably not going to be as competitive in any given state after Iowa as Nikki Haley will be in New Hampshire,

there's a path to win with Ron DeSantis' approach.

It's like he is going for the voters that like Donald Trump, and he got about 20%.

of that 70% of voters, and Donald Trump got 50 in Iowa.

That's not enough, obviously.

It's not enough to win.

However, Nikki Haley

really is looking at these 70% of voters who really like Donald Trump and getting almost none of them.

And if you can't get any of those voters, you have really no path to the nomination.

And she can't seem to pick any of them off.

What your path is, is that you are hoping that enough Republicans will hold their nose and enough Democrats or Independents.

You know, the parties have never been weaker than they are right now.

People are identifying as independents.

The average independent is not for,

you know, socialism and all of this crap that Joe Biden is doing.

But they also, I think the average independent, many of them have been convinced by the media that Republicans want something radical.

When really,

no, we just would like a return to normalcy.

You know, a lot of Republicans were on that bandwagon when Joe Biden said that.

We just didn't believe he would bring normalcy.

We knew what he would bring.

This.

And that's the only path.

It would be truly the independent vote, I think, that she would be going for.

And she would need a lot of Democrats to make up.

Yeah, and it's just a lot.

You can't win Republican primaries.

You can win them in individual states with that approach.

You can.

You can't win Republican primary elections as a whole with that approach.

It just doesn't wind up working over the long term.

So she's put herself in a position.

And, you know,

she's not trying to say she's liberal.

She's not trying to say she's more moderate.

She's just cut out that group, you know, that part of the electorate.

And for whatever reason, even though she hasn't been very critical of Donald Trump, in fact, over and over again, she's said he was the right president at the right time.

And they've all tried to walk this weird line where they don't say anything bad about Donald Trump for months and months on end.

I don't know that there's an opposite approach that works there.

No one's been able to find it if it does exist.

But it's fascinating to watch this.

As you pointed out earlier on, when we were talking, maybe it was Steve Dace we were talking to, you know, she was a Tea Party candidate.

When she ran, she was a popular governor among Republicans.

And just her brand of Republican politics has largely just fallen out of favor.

And she doesn't really have a path to win over this new energy of populism.

She's from an older school Republicanism that actually doesn't poll badly in general election audiences.

You mentioned a poll earlier today that has her way out in front of Joe Biden if she actually made it to the general.

And that's really her main argument here, where both Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis in most of these polls can squeak it out over Biden.

She usually has a seven or eight point lead over Biden, which is impressive, but there's no path for her to get to the position in which she can utilize that support.

So,

what does the poll number look like in South Carolina?

South Carolina has not honestly had a ton of new polling.

I can pull up a summary here in a second.

But,

you know, I think

South Carolina being,

you know, what is, I don't remember the date of it here.

I have it in my calendar.

South Carolina is still 39 days away.

So we have a while before South Carolina pops up.

A lot can change.

Right now, Trump at 54, Haley at 25, DeSantis at 12, and Asa Hutchinson at 0.5%.

I don't know where Ryan Binkley is in the state, Glenn.

We're going to have to check that, apparently, when we're monitoring these polls.

He's going to do great.

I'm for that Binkerman.

I love Binkerman.

Love him.

But I mean, you know, look, Haley at 25%.

If she has a good New Hampshire showing, you could see that closing and her being relatively competitive in that state, especially if

something were to change.

The one thing that people keep talking about, the Wall Street Journal has written an op-ed saying Ron DeSantis should drop out.

And I think what people are not calculating here is that the DeSantis vote is not an anti-Trump vote.

If Ron DeSantis drops out, I think it's probable the majority of his voters would go to Donald Trump, not to Nikki Haley.

And I think there's a strong possibility that DeSantis might even endorse Trump in that scenario.

So,

again, these people who are like, you know, live or die, I don't want anyone but Trump to win.

I don't think DeSantis dropping out is what you want.

You probably want DeSantis to stay in and keep fighting to see if he can get one of these later states to turn around a little bit, or maybe just the tone of the entire campaign changes with some external event like a crazy legal development or something like that.

That's probably what you have to look for.

But Trump, look, Trump has a massive massive lead here.

He is, I don't know that he was ever beatable in this situation, Glenn.

Let me give you a new poll from the Economist YouGov.

Asked U.S.

citizens to predict who would win regardless of who they preferred.

Of those surveyed, 44% said Trump, 35% said Biden, 21% said I have no idea.

Split down the middle regarding support.

43% say they were supporting Biden.

43% saying they were supporting Trump.

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So I don't know if you saw the

acceptance speech from Donald Trump last night, but I thought it was really good, conciliatory, mentioned all of the candidates, said, you know, we all have to come together.

And I don't want to be too harsh on the president, he said, but he is the worst president we've ever had and is destroying the country.

So I'm glad he held back a little.

A little bit.

Yeah.

A little bit.

I mean, that might be good for other countries.

There's some positives to destroy other countries.

Yeah, okay.

So the VP pick for Donald Trump, here are insider

predictions.

Sarah Huckabee, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

That would make sense.

Tucker Carlson.

You know Tucker relatively well.

I mean, does he seem like the type of thing he'd want to do?

No.

No.

It doesn't strike me as an outsider that he would want to do that either.

Vivek and Christy Dome.

I think Christy Noome is definitely on that list.

Vivek, I mean, you talked to him about Vivek.

There's definitely some arguments you could see in Vivek's favor.

But

Sarah Huckabee Sanders makes sense to me.

She was very loyal to him.

She was very good.

I thought a very good press secretary.

Did a really good job.

went back, became the governor, has done fairly well as governor.

Yeah, very popular.

Is a woman, you know, is an evangelical.

I mean, to me, that makes sense.

And obviously has already kind of mastered the art of defending Trump and his policies and potential misstatements.

That's absolutely actually her job.

So, yeah, I mean,

she's definitely one you could see potentially in that role.

It's fascinating because, I mean, this is where we are, right?

We're at the point where we're just talking about his vice presidential picks, and it's because it doesn't feel like much of a contest.

You know, we've been talking about this for a while.

And I think people never really turned into that contested primary that so many expected.

You said earlier that when you have people saying the election was stolen, and people begin to feel that way, they feel like, well, then he deserves a second chance.

I think people see this just as the reelection of Donald Trump

and that,

you know, he was the guy he was shorted unfairly,

and

he's the guy who is standing up for the little guy.

And I remember my grocery and gas bill not being so bad under him.

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