Best of the Program | Guest: Steve Baker | 1/16/24

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Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss the big winners from yesterday’s caucus and who Trump could pick for vice president. Blaze Media contributor and investigative journalist Steve Baker joins to share his updated groundbreaking reports on the events of January 6, exposing how Nancy Pelosi’s security detail chief may have committed perjury about the events of that day. Glenn discusses the issue with the WEF’s goal being "rebuilding trust."
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We cover everything that you need to know on

the election from last night in Iowa.

Wasn't really a surprise, but there are some things that I think really now make a difference as we go forward.

And we talk about that, the pick of vice president, which I think could be coming soon from Donald Trump, believe it or not.

But we also talk about the scandal in Washington on January 6th, some new information that Blaze Investigations has brought out.

We told you it was coming, but now we've released the actual videotape footage of it, and the Capitol Police say they're not going to investigate it at all.

This is real corruption, provable corruption that everybody needs to see and hear.

We also talked a little bit about Davos and what they're doing to regain people's trust,

but also something that the president has just done with HHS that if you're a doctor or nurse and you have you have things that you just won't do as a doctor or nurse because you believe in God, that's no longer an excuse according to the Biden administration and the new HHS rules.

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Pat Gray joins us now from Pat Gray Unleashed.

And Stu, I haven't really heard your analysis of last night.

So Pat and Stu are here.

Why don't we start with you, Pat?

Okay.

About like I, well, it went almost exactly as I predicted it.

Um, I think that's a surprise to everybody that Donald Trump won, but I knew.

I knew going in.

You were the guy.

Yeah, I was the one.

He was the dark horse naysayer in the crowd saying, I think Trump is going to win this thing.

I got the order exactly right up until

Ryan Binkley.

Yes.

Dang it.

Asa Hutchinson.

That is the most devastating story.

Oh Oh my gosh.

If you're Asa,

are you going to continue in this trade?

Could you just tell us who Binkman is?

Binkley?

You mean Ryan Binkley?

I mean, Ryan Binkley.

Well, I was just joking there.

He's funning you on that.

He's a Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex businessman.

Oh, pastor.

Yeah.

So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Uh-huh.

He's from our hometown.

Yes.

And we've never heard of it.

And we've never heard of it.

Yeah.

But he he beat Asa Hutchinson.

We started out the morning by getting in touch with Steve Day saying, Steve, who's Ryan Binkley?

He's like, I don't know.

That is a really sad story.

I mean, you know, Asa Hutchinson has been flying around the country by himself, coach flights, doing events with one person.

He's been on television on the debates.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if that helps your Q score and people know who you are, but this other guy, Binkman,

hasn't done any of those.

Binkley hasn't done any of that.

No.

And the finals, it was Binkley got 0.7%.

Yeah.

And Hutchinson got 0.2.

It wasn't even close.

Hutchinson barely, barely squeaked it out against Chris Christie, who dropped out of the race already.

Now,

the poll that I saw, it said Chris Christie negative 0.1.

And I know that has to be an error.

Yeah.

But then again, maybe not.

Maybe not.

Maybe not.

I will say this.

I was happy to see DeSantis beat Haley.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what he had to do, right?

Like,

the low bar he

absolutely had to clear was not finishing third.

He talked about his ticket got punched out of the Hawkeye state.

And I think his ticket was, I got to beat Nikki Haley at least.

He has to.

He has to be.

It would have been catastrophic for me

it would have been immediately over and if you know what's lost what's really bad is we have pitted DeSantis and Trump against each other I mean this is a contest but I would vote for either one of them uh and I think most uh Trump supporters would say that the same thing if Donald Trump were hit by a truck

DeSantis would be the guy uh they're not going to Nikki Haley um and uh that that's the unfortunate unfortunate thing.

I was really impressed with Donald Trump's speech, the tone of his speech last night.

We all have to come together.

And he was nice about

it.

He was nice.

Yeah, he was very kind and nice about that.

And one thing we haven't talked about is Vivek, which I think Vivek drops out.

Remember, he said he wouldn't yesterday, but I figured he would.

That was,

I think,

to help Donald Trump in the long run because the Vivek people were also taking votes.

Not that Donald Trump needed them, but he was also taking votes away from Donald Trump.

I can't help but wonder if Vivek's entire candidacy was to run interference for Donald Trump.

That's what it seems like to me because, you know, he was always loyal to Trump.

He really never said anything bad about him.

I think the worst thing he did was take that photo op with the supporters who had

save Trump vote vivek.

And that pissed off Trump a little bit yesterday.

And I don't even know that that came from his campaign.

I think they might have just had that printed up on their own.

I don't know.

But it did.

So let me ask you,

Save Trump, vote Vivek.

Yeah.

I'm not sure I get the message from the t-shirt.

What the hell does that mean?

I think what it meant

was basically

Trump is going to be, everyone's going to be going after him.

If you vote for Vivek, he's going to pardon Trump.

And

if they convict him of all these things.

I mean, he made that pitch during the debates.

I mean, again, everyone's so sensitive in these times.

Like, the fact that he

posed for a picture with a couple of people with a dumb message on their shirt.

Like,

he's been darn supportive.

He's been incredibly supportive.

I mean, honestly, at times, it's felt like he hasn't even been running for president.

I don't even know what he was doing on the campaign trail.

There have been a couple of times in the debate where I'm like, Donald Trump doesn't have to be there.

Right.

Vivek's there.

And Vivek is saying that he's the greatest president of his lifetime.

It's like, well, you know, why would I vote for you?

Right.

But oddly, one thing that's really an odd, odd, complicating factor on this is I think there's an easy way to believe that Vivek was like, okay, I'm going to finish Iowa.

I did my piece.

I'll endorse Trump.

Hopefully I'll become the VP or get some other role.

And I've got a future in the manga movement.

Right.

I think that's a very easy, cynical way of looking at this.

The one thing that complicates that is his interview yesterday, where he was more critical of Trump than I've seen him at any other point during the entire campaign.

He seemed completely convinced he was going to have this breakout moment with his ground game and everything else.

And of course, every politician says that, and it never happens.

But, you know, I don't know if he was really convinced of it because he sort of volunteered an anti-Trump argument.

in the last hours, which was a bizarre moment yesterday.

We were talking about it a little bit off the air, but he immediately finishes fourth and drops out and endorses Trump

in his

concession speech.

Yeah.

I would hope that Donald Trump would pick him

as

the vice president.

I mean, I would say

Taley, but I don't think so.

I will say

that.

You know,

Trump does not take kindly to people who trashed him.

And she began trashing him,

you know, when he was still in office.

Yeah.

She was trashing him.

And does trash way of getting over such things, though, with anyone who supports him.

All right.

But like he has, he's, Trump can get over that pretty quick.

I mean, you heard him yesterday.

He was like, you know, DeSantis and Nikki, great people.

Love him.

We had a great contest.

We got to come together.

Like, he's already there because he thinks he's already won.

Right.

But there's a difference between Trump saying nice things about you.

and the Trump that trusts you and brings you into his inner circle.

There's a very big difference.

I think that I will be surprised because he does get, you're right.

I mean, he brought her in after she was very anti-Trump in the 2016 election, he brought her in for the UN ambassador gig.

And they've gone back and forth, warming and cooling to each other.

But one thing I was thinking about, tell me if I'm wrong on this, I had this theory.

I was thinking about this when they were talking about the VP.

What's the one thing?

Donald Trump is going to try to cure from his last VP pick.

The one thing that if you think, if you asked Donald Trump about his vice president today, what would be the first thing he would bring up?

Loyalty.

The election.

The election.

Loyalty.

If there is a person who he's thinking about to name as a VP,

and that person would be someone he could see having that Mike Pence, no, the Constitution is too important.

Again, I'm thinking from his perspective.

Oh, the Constitution is too important.

I'm not going to listen to you, Donald Trump, on this one.

If he thinks there's any chance that person's doing it, he's not picking them.

I can't imagine him doing that again.

That's a good point.

I think he's going to be able to do that.

That would lean you toward vivek.

Vivek or maybe,

again, I don't know how he sees these people, but Christy Noam or Stefanik or someone who would not, Nikki Haley is not the type of person who's going to be like, you know what?

I'm just going to just, I'm just going to take whatever Trump wants.

And I think he's going to want someone after this Pence experience that he views that way.

Again, that's

his view.

I don't think there's any chance he's going to pick someone who he thinks might do that again.

And Carrie Lake seems to be out.

Yeah, Carrie Lake does seem to be up, but she would fit the profile.

She fits that profile, but he said last night, you're going to make a great senator.

He's got to have somebody that can make a strong, intelligent case.

That's what he needs.

Somebody who looks stable and

make the case.

Kevake makes the case better than anybody I've heard in a very, very long time.

Maybe the first politician that I've ever seen that could make the case and tear things apart

and be accurate, maybe ever in my lifetime.

Carome and Stefanik, though, have a way of making that case too, from a totally different place and a totally different approach.

And also, you know, not as

I don't know.

Sometimes I think Trump doesn't like people who are arguing on his behalf that are too

spotlight stealing, right?

I think they both would do a good job.

They're smart.

They fit the profile.

If you look, I've got to take a break, but if you look, the vaccine, Donald Trump would be the kingmaker for a new generation and setting that new generation in place.

I think that that plays a role.

The best of the Glenbeck program.

Steve Baker, who we are, I don't say this, you know, happily, Steve.

I don't mean to make this sound like it's something we're all excited about, but somebody that is, I expected to be in jail already,

and we're expecting that you may not last the month before you're arrested

by the FBI.

Any updates on that?

The only update we have was given to my attorney between the week of Christmas and January 1st.

And that was a conversation he had with the new U.S.

attorney that has my case.

And that new U.S.

attorney told him that now they have moved my self-surrender date back to mid-January and that they would give me seven to 10 days notice because they have, I will tell you for two years, they've respected my travel schedule and

have at least shown that kind of courtesy.

But

it's the middle of the month now and we still haven't heard back from them yet.

Now they did tell my attorney at the time when he asked, well, can you just let us know what the charges are going to be?

And the AUSA said, no, we're not going to tell you.

Well, why is that?

And I kid you not, Glenn, the U.S.

attorney told my attorney that they won't tell me what my charges are or what I'm facing because they said I will tweet it out immediately.

Well,

yeah, so what's the problem with that?

I'm not exactly sure.

Yeah.

Okay, so Steve, so we have a lot of new people listening today.

They, you know, saw what happened in Iowa last night.

They want analysis on it.

We're going to get that to you here in a second.

But for people who haven't been following why they're after you, it has to have something to do with the fact that you were in the building as a journalist, just like the ABC and NBC people, and you took video.

And you started to say, this isn't the story that everybody is saying it is.

Then about two months ago you put together a video for the blaze that showed Nancy Pelosi's security detail who is instrumental in the convictions of a lot of these people tell me bring me up to speed we'll play the first part of the clip tell me what we're going to hear in this clip It's very important for people to focus in on one thing here.

Special Agent David Lazarus, who was on the dignitary protection detail for Nancy Pelosi, he testified in the Oath Keepers trial that he witnessed the interaction between the Oath Keepers and Harry Dunn, Officer Harry Dunn, who's now running for Congress, by the way.

Yes.

And that he saw this interaction, this highly antagonistic interaction between the Oath Keepers and Harry Dunn three or four times is what he testified in great detail in that trial.

The problem with that, Glenn, was that Special Agent Lazarus was not not even in the same building.

And we secured the Capitol CCT video that I don't think they ever thought we would get access to, showing that that's the truth.

So

let me play the first part of what just broke yesterday.

It's from Blaze TV,

and it is an investigative report, again, by Steve Baker.

Here's the setup of what Steve said prior to, so you'll understand the importance of this videotape in cut two.

Listen.

The story of David Lazarus on January 6th is very simple.

Lawyers for Stuart Rhodes and four other members of the Oath Keepers on trial have suggested that the group helped Officer Harry Dunn.

Dunn just took the stand and said flat out, quote, they didn't.

Sentenced to four years in prison.

Sentenced to eight and a half years in prison.

Sentenced to 12 years and sentenced to 18 years in prison.

His story that day is he was assisting the evacuation of the Senate at the time that the incident between Officer Harry Dunn and the Oath Keepers began.

Just outside of the Rotunda, there was Harry Dunn.

He's a Catholic police officer.

He was freaking out.

I mean he was screaming, no, get the f ⁇ out of here!

He had a rifle.

He had said he might get taken out, but he was going to take a bunch of people with him.

He was definitely in a position where he could have done some damage.

The oath keepers lined up between him and the more agitated protesters and assisted him in keeping them off of him.

Don rejected the defense's argument that members of the militia protected him.

I don't conflate my story.

He had two separate FBI interviews, which were in conflict with one another.

In the first FBI interview, he actually gave a favorable story about his encounter with the four oath keepers.

He stood in front of Harry Dunes for almost six minutes.

After he was brought in for his second FBI interview, he changed that story.

He was fighting back insurrectionists across the Capitol while being called the vilest racist names.

So what they did is they brought in another officer, Special Agent David Lazarus, to kind of bolster that story and give it more credibility by saying that when he arrived at the top of those stairs, that he saw Dunn standing at the top of the stairs being hassled by these oath Keepers.

At the time the Harry Dunn Oath Keepers encounter began,

he was not in the same building.

Wow.

Now, what this video, if you're not a Blaze TV subscriber, what you're seeing on the screen are the time stamps.

There's about eight different cuts there.

of where everybody is in the Capitol.

You see it on a map through graphics, but you also then see the Capitol cameras.

What's so frightening about this, Steve, is

they didn't think that anybody would get this footage.

And the lie is

so clear that it is a lie.

And basically to put all of these people in jail based on that lie,

it is terrifying what our government's willing to do to its own people.

It's terrifying that they are still trying to cover this up.

As a matter of fact, we learned just a few days ago that Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger has stated that he has no intention to investigate this internally or to investigate the actions or the testimony of Special Agent Lazarus.

That's correct.

And

what's also amazing, and we show this in this particular video, we show a screenshot of an internal Capitol Police leadership email that I received from one of my sources inside the building who sent this to me

in the original release that we did when we started talking about this without the videos back in October, that they were very pleased that this story was not getting traction at the time.

But now that we have the videos, this thing really blew up on the social media sites yesterday.

Okay, so tell me what we're going to see and hear now.

Part two.

This basically is going to take us through

the part where we see Lazarus now emerging to the area where he claimed that he was, but this is long after the oath keepers have left the building.

They've certainly left the area and are exiting the building.

But this, once again, it solidifies the fact that, and it really brings home the fact, Glenn, that these individuals were testified against improperly.

They were lied against.

They're certainly, at the very least,

not only their convictions, but their sentencings were much worse as a result of these testimonies between Harry Dunn and Lazarus.

And the fact is, is that neither one of these cops who testified in this trial could possibly have

experienced what they said.

As I said before, they gave very, very specific and detailed testimonies, and both of them are not only in conflict with one another, they're in complete conflict with the truth.

Okay, here's part two.

This was released yesterday.

Listen to this.

Lazarus was just not there.

He could not have seen, he could not have witnessed what was taking place because Lazarus was in another Senate office building across the street from Constitution Avenue.

So we were able to track Lazarus on the Capitol CC TV cameras.

Lazarus can be seen moving away from the Capitol building through a lower tunnel at 2.37.59 p.m.

Lazarus continues moving toward the Senate office buildings at 2.41.49 p.m.

During Officer Lazarus's October 31st trial testimony, he stated that he began his return to the Capitol building after hearing shots fired over Capitol Police radio.

That occurred at 2.43 p.m.

Here, Lazarus can be seen moving back toward the Capitol at 2.45 p.m.

Dunn's encounter with the Oath Keepers began at 2.44 and lasted roughly between five and six minutes.

Here, Lazarus finally emerges from the tunnel back to the Senate side of the Capitol building at 2.48.

Dunn falsely testified that Lazarus was already at the location where he encountered the Oath Keepers before he arrived.

But Lazarus can be seen at the top of the elevator leading up from the tunnel at 2.48 p.m.

on the Senate side of the Capitol, over four minutes after Dunn encountered the Oath Keepers on the house side.

I mean,

how is this not being investigated?

I guess this is where you come in.

If it wasn't for people like you, we wouldn't know.

If it wasn't for places like the Blaze, this story wouldn't be told and it would just go away.

In a surveillance state, and that's really what the Capitol grounds are, it's a surveillance state.

You can track every movement of everybody and tie them all together.

It takes a lot of time, as you know.

But in a normal circumstance, this would mean that those people who were tried and convicted with this testimony, they would either

go for a mistrial or they would be immediately released.

That's the way America has always worked.

And no one is doing anything about it.

They think they're going to get away with it.

Is that just because people aren't aware of it?

Well, they're not aware of it, but I will tell you that we are working very, very closely with congressional members and staffers on this particular story as well as the other stories that

we've currently got in development.

As a matter of fact, Representative Barry

Lautermil, who is the chairman of the subcommittee of oversight from House Admin, they just announced a couple of days ago that they have been given three times the number of staffers from House Speaker Johnson for the specific purpose of investigating January 6th matters and I can confirm that now but we have been I have sat with Mr.

Lautermilk several times I have met with his chief of staff and his staff members on many occasions now and I think that at least at the very least

Before a committee is called or another J6 select committee is convened, they are going to bring these officers in for transcripted interviews under oath.

Thank you very much, Steve.

I really appreciate all of your work, and we pray for you.

And I ask America, pray for Steve Baker.

He is under threat from the U.S.

government just because he's telling the truth.

How do I know it's the truth?

He has the video evidence.

Steve, thank you so much.

Blaze Media correspondent, investigative journalist.

And if you don't have this video yet, you can find it online.

You can go to Blaze,

You can also find it on Blaze TV, but tweet this out and spread this as much as possible.

This tells a completely different story, and there is nothing but facts.

You cannot argue this at all because everything is time stamped.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

So in Davos today, they are talking about rebuilding trust.

And the number one thing they feel is the greatest threat is misinformation and disinformation.

The second biggest threat is misinformation and disinformation in elections.

They believe that people like me lie

and tell you falsehoods.

And,

you know, what we say about the World Economic Forum is absolutely untrue.

They're not trying to destroy.

They're trying to build a better world where we all can be free.

I don't believe any of that, but that's what makes me a threat.

So they are trying to work on how to combat disinformation, what they call disinformation or misinformation, from people like me, how to combat people like me

and anybody who speaks out against the World Economic Forum, the WHO, COVID, any of that.

They are also hearing

the arguments from the World Health Organization that disease X is right around the corner, and they need to band together because last time we acted fast, but this one's going to be worse.

And we have to even act faster.

And that's why we need to have

digital identities and national IDs.

And we have to have all of our information given to the government.

We got to do it quickly because of Disease X.

Now, I'm not an extremist.

I believe in the rights that were given to man, man, woman, I don't care if you're an Independent, Democrat, Republican, you're a space alien.

I don't care.

We are all created equal and endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.

And those rights begin with our own bodies.

And you can't tell me what I have to put in my body to be legal.

No, that is my decision.

Well, what about abortion?

Well, abortion is different because it involves another child.

You know, if

we think that a child is a child in the womb, and we think it's a child just because the mom wants that child, and so it's actually a baby.

And if mom doesn't want it, it's just a clump of cells.

That's insanity.

That is a sign that you have a serious mental disorder.

It's always a baby.

You just don't want to admit it's a baby because then you'd be killing babies.

But that's becoming more and more popular as

we go.

Now it seems like killing babies and killing perfectly healthy people and

letting, in fact, in Canada, helping teenagers commit suicide because they're depressed.

I'm not somebody that agrees with that, and I question the doctors that are.

The reason why I'm talking about this is because I want you to know the left is talking about a dictatorship.

I'm talking about the Constitution.

The Constitution will tell us that our administrative state is out of control.

I don't want anyone to have control where they can write laws and tell us what we have to do through administrative action.

We're a republic.

That should go through Congress and then sign by the president.

And if it's unconstitutional, go to the Supreme Court.

But the left and Joe Biden has done all kinds of things that are very, very un-American.

One of the things that is very American is that we have our own choice.

We lead our life in a certain way.

If I want to do business and do one thing, I can do that as long as I'm not harming others.

But now we're taking this away and the Department of Health and Human Services have now issued new regulations that rescind conscience protections for doctors and nurses who are forced by their employers to perform procedures that violate their beliefs.

So we're talking about forced sterilization, abortion, assisted suicide, gender transition surgeries.

This, you won't be able to be a doctor if you disagree with doing those things.

You're not going, according to HHS and this new regulation, you no longer have the right to say, I can't do that for religious

reasons.

This is extraordinarily disturbing because I know who progressives are.

Now, you might be a progressive and say, well, I don't agree with the killing people and everything else.

But you have to understand,

if you don't have that understanding, it doesn't mean that other progressives at the top don't have that understanding.

You are looking at a group of people, and let's use the WEF, that are truly in a death cult.

How could I say that?

Well, anyone who says we should get rid of all of our energy before having energy to replace it is sentencing millions of people to death in the cold.

They're sentencing to death when it's hot and there's no air conditioning.

You're sentencing them to starvation by taking away fertilizer because you put the planet above people eating.

Now, there's a happy middle where we can all go, but you don't replace something with nothing.

Otherwise, you're causing death.

It is truly a death cult.

Otherwise, honestly, we would be investigating all of the things that how did COVID happen?

Where did it come from?

What really really happened with the vaccine?

What is the danger?

But we're not doing any of that.

Only crazy people are doing that.

Let me tell you

how this actually works.

And I want to do it by telling you about the crime of the century in the early 20th century.

The arrogance of saying something is the crime of the century because you hear that.

you know, over and over and over again throughout a century.

But sometime during the evening of March 1st in 1932,

there was a 20-month-old baby that was kidnapped, snatched from his cot in the nursery on the second floor of the family house in New Jersey.

Dad was downstairs, didn't hear a thing.

A broken ladder was found nearby, along with footprints, tire tracks,

and on the windowsill, a handwritten ransom note that just said, baby safe, instructions later, act accordingly.

It was the crime of the century.

And the reason why it was the crime of the century was not because the ransom was $50,000.

This is in the 20s, so that was an awful lot of money.

That's about a million dollars today.

It was paid on April 2nd.

It's not because of the biggest manhunt that had ever spread across the U.S.

It's not that the poor defenseless baby had been stolen.

The reason this was the crime of the century is that the child was the son of Charles Lindbergh.

He was the national hero who had completed the first solo flight 3,600 miles non-stop from New York to Paris in 1927.

Now,

what happened in this is

Charles Lindbergh was never investigated.

He wasn't considered a suspect.

Even when six weeks later, the child's battered body was found less than five miles from his home.

It was discovered by a pair of delivery drivers who had stopped for a comfort break in the woods.

Coroner examined the corpse, determined the cause of death, two heavy blows to the head.

Lindbergh Sr.

helped lead the investigation, which two years later resulted in the conviction of a German immigrant who was still protesting his innocence as he was strapped to the electric chair.

Everyone's heart was broken by the child and Lindbergh's wife, Anne.

But is any of that true?

Investigation after investigation was stopped

because Lindbergh was famous, he was connected, he was also a very deep progressive.

Now, Lise Perlman, she is a retired judge, she's a celebrated author.

She has now come out with evidence that says, no,

that's not what happened.

She believes that not only did Lindbergh have a hand in his son's death, but he may have sacrificed his son because he was disappointed in his son.

He sacrificed his son to medical science, permitting his pal, Alexis Carroll, the Nobel Prize-winning scientist, to experiment on his child, then fake the kidnap to cover up the disappearance and the death of the child.

Apparently, Lindbergh was very disappointed that his firstborn son was, quote, in his words, a weakling with an abnormally large head.

And so her theory is, is that he thought his child could be more used to medical research than to him and Anne.

She says, my theory is the child was operated on.

We think at the very least that his carteroid artery and probably his thyroid were taken out and kept viable for 30 days.

We think he died on the operating table.

But there's more.

I think Carroll conducted the operation with Lindbergh's permission and Lindbergh was likely present.

It surely beggars belief that Lindbergh, a national celebrity, could have committed such a heinous crime.

In 1928, he was Time magazine's man of the year because he's the guy who jump-started air travel.

He went on, became a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, explorer, and environmentalist.

He was the American dream at the time, but perhaps not.

She said she has lots of leads

on the kidnapping that were not followed.

About a dozen state witnesses likely committed perjury, she said, and the prosecution had 90,000 pages of investigation they didn't let the defense see.

This throws up some really uncomfortable questions that nobody wants to talk about.

And they say these are rumors, but I believe these are facts.

He was very anti-Semitic, as was Henry Ford.

He was a Nazi sympathizer.

He was also a liar and a serial philanderer.

Together, he and Anne had five children, but Lindbergh fathered another seven.

the products of three separate affairs happening, and none of his illegitimate children were allowed to know who their dad was until after he died in 1974.

He was controlling, he kept a log, a note on each child's transgressions and insisted that Anne record every cent of household expenses in a ledger.

But most damningly, he had enthusiasm for eugenics.

I don't think I need to tell you what eugenics are, but he really believed we needed to weed out the weakness and improve the genetic quality of the human population.

He also was very much into the pioneering of organ transplant surgery.

Makes for disturbing reading.

He was obsessed on how we could keep organs alive and be preserved outside of the body long enough to be transplanted.

If this would have happened, he would have revolutionized medicine in 1930.

But this is where this is coming from now.

The The evidence looks like he might have actually been experimenting on his own son.

Don't know if this is true, but it should be pursued.

The reason why I tell you this story is

Lindbergh is very much like some of the people today that you look at.

Noah Haval

Harari is one of them.

He is a scientist, I guess, that you could talk to anybody at Davos, talk to anybody in the elite circles today, and they'll say he's one of the greatest minds ever.

However, his words truly echo the early eugenists that say there are unlivable lives, there are going to be useless people, and we have to decide what we're going to do with those useless people.

His first attempt to deal with them is to drug them and just get them online and keep them online where they can just waste away online.

Useless people is also the things that Charles Lindbergh signed up for, the things that anybody who was in the medical field signed up for in Germany.

It wasn't the jackbooted thugs that were killing children.

It was doctors and nurses, scientists, and great leaders of the world.

It came from America and then went to Germany.

So when I read something that Biden is trying to once again clean out the medical community of anybody who objects to anything

because they have a religious conscience,

that is a check and a balance on our medical and science community that quite frankly If you don't think we need it after what happened with COVID, I think you're sadly mistaken.

These people are very, very dangerous.

Don't be duped.

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