Best of the Program | Guests: Carol Roth & Rep. Thomas Massie | 1/12/24

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Speaker 2 So I got something from Porter Stansbury, and

Speaker 2 I want you to listen to this. A year ago,

Speaker 2 we published a dire warning about a mega-cap

Speaker 2 American stock. This was the only mega-cap stock we told investors to avoid.
It's no ordinary business. It's America's most strategically important country, a company.
Listen to that.

Speaker 2 America's most strategically important company. We said it would soon collapse.
On January 27th, 2023, the headline was coming soon, the Boeing collapse. How did we know?

Speaker 2 Well, for the last 20 years, there hasn't been a company in America that has embraced more bad ideas from financial engineering to ESG than Boeing.

Speaker 2 In 1997, Boeing merged with fellow aerospace manufacturer McDonnell Douglas in a $13 billion

Speaker 2 stock swap. It was a match made in hell.
Boeing was known for quality. McDonald was known for financial engineering with a focus on cost cutting and the company's share price.

Speaker 2 Although the Boeing name survived, it was McDonnell Douglas' attitude that prevailed. McDonald's CEO Harry Stonecipher

Speaker 2 Who took over the day-to-day operations at Boeing, immediately took a carving knife to Boeing's highly paid engineering staff. In May

Speaker 2 2001, Boeing management made a physical break with its engineers' manufacturing headquarters, stayed in Seattle while corporate moved to downtown Chicago, 1,700 miles away.

Speaker 2 That split symbolized the growing distance between the builders and the bosses. To say the company's engineers were disenfranchised doesn't describe it.
Boeing's entire culture was erased.

Speaker 2 CEO Stone Cipher even bragged about what he had destroyed. Quote, when people say I changed the culture of Boeing, that was the intent.
So that's like a business.

Speaker 2 It's run like a business rather than a great engineering firm.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you know this, but making airplanes fly really requires a great engineering firm, but maybe that's just me. Today, both Boeing CFO Brian West and CEO David Calhoun are

Speaker 2 formerly senior GE finance people, and they've done to Boeing what they did to

Speaker 2 GE, destroy the balance sheet. From 2010 to 2019, Boeing spent $44 billion on buying back its own shares, while adding $50 billion in debt.

Speaker 2 This reduced the share count by 23% and sent the stock price up 200. But the underlying business?

Speaker 2 Bean counters cannot build airplanes. Boeing's planes began falling out of the sky.
As a result, free cash flow plunged to negative $4.3 billion annually by 2019.

Speaker 2 Today's bankruptcy of Boeing grows more certain. Cumulative net income over the last three years is negative $20 billion, and the company has $52 billion now in total debt.

Speaker 2 Interest expense is currently $2.5 billion a year, but that's going to move much higher as Boeing's debt will be downgraded to junk. But never fear.

Speaker 2 Investors have nothing to worry about with one of America's greatest and most important companies spiraling towards bankruptcy. Stephanie Pope is the chief operating officer of Boeing.

Speaker 2 She holds a bachelor's degree in accounting. from Southwest Missouri State University and an MBA from another intellectual powerhouse, Linden Wood University.
She also has zero engineering background.

Speaker 2 Now, why would someone with this kind of background be placed in charge of operations in the world's leading aerospace engineering firm?

Speaker 2 Well, maybe it's because she is the executive sponsor of Boeing's Women Inspiring Leadership, a group dedicated to increasing gender diversity awareness. Boeing's planes keep falling apart.

Speaker 2 These outcomes are the results of years and years of bad ideas, starting with the intentional destruction of Boeing's engineering culture, followed by the GE-style financial engineering, and now the company's full embrace of modern Marxism ESG.

Speaker 2 Like we predicted a year ago, Boeing is going to collapse. When the debt gets downgraded, the stock will drop by more than 50% to below $100,

Speaker 2 and that's just what we warned about GE and GM.

Speaker 2 Boeing is a wonderful metaphor for our entire society.

Speaker 2 When, now listen carefully, boys and girls, when we promote people because of their political views or their race or their sex, even if that sex is completely made up,

Speaker 2 instead of what they know and who they are, the content of their character, we will continue to have planes fall out of the sky.

Speaker 2 Whatever company is involved in all of this stuff, their quote planes, whatever it is they build, will fall out of the sky. Until our government gets away from this craziness,

Speaker 2 America's republic will fall out of the sky.

Speaker 2 Let me just give you a couple of things. First of all, do you think this is a good idea? The NIH has spent millions on equity, LGBT issues, instead of researching cures.

Speaker 2 How do you think that's going to work out for us?

Speaker 2 DEI,

Speaker 2 the boondoggle, cost us millions.

Speaker 2 And yet, in all of these,

Speaker 2 without all of these universities, all of these

Speaker 2 countries, sorry, companies that are embracing DEI, University of Michigan is paying probably a total of about $80 million a year for their 142 employees to promote DEI and all the programs, okay?

Speaker 2 So how's it working out? $85 million was spent on DEI at that one

Speaker 2 university.

Speaker 2 Black students' experience on campus hasn't improved. Hispanic and Asian enrollments increased, but black enrollment dropped slightly from 4.3 to 3.9.

Speaker 2 With the percentage of students who were satisfied with the overall campus climate, it decreased 72%

Speaker 2 to 61%.

Speaker 2 Your education plane is about to fall out of the the sky.

Speaker 2 How about energy?

Speaker 2 Let's all go EV.

Speaker 2 And in fact, let's have a government that thinks they know better, thinks that they are God.

Speaker 2 And so they're going to reduce the oil that we can pump, starve us for anything that we know historically works, to give us a bunch of crap that doesn't work, that we still have to have the energy to propel

Speaker 2 we still have to make electricity so the car can plug in where's that coming from gang oh don't worry about it these cars are so great really did you hear I think it's Hertz is getting rid of all of their EVs

Speaker 2 they're turning in their entire fleet

Speaker 2 and that's happening over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, hey, let's be more like Europe. Let's be more enlightened like France.
France is dropping its renewable targets to fully embrace nuclear energy. Why?

Speaker 2 So they have energy sovereignty.

Speaker 2 Sovereignty, how dare France separate itself from the collective.

Speaker 2 And meanwhile, at MSNBC, Chris Matthews on Wednesday claimed that, and I'm quoting, rural Americans are essentially members of a cult who will vote in, quote, their craziness if Democrats don't show up at the polls.

Speaker 2 Our craziness.

Speaker 2 Our craziness. I've had enough.
I've really had enough. What is our craziness, Chris, that we want to vote in?

Speaker 2 For instance,

Speaker 2 how about the president actually has to go to Congress to ask if, hey, can we get into another war?

Speaker 2 That's not Republican craziness. That currently is Democratic craziness as we are now

Speaker 2 backing into a war in the Middle East. Another one.

Speaker 2 Is that crazy to ask? Is it our love for history and heritage that's so crazy? The mission statement in our Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal?

Speaker 2 That we don't believe that to be anti-racist, you must indeed be racist to do the opposite of what Martin Luther King preached?

Speaker 2 No, I don't think that's crazy. I think that's settled science.

Speaker 2 Are we crazy for demanding that our border be shut down

Speaker 2 until we can get control?

Speaker 2 Is it crazy to say 10 million new people have come across our border. We don't know who they are.

Speaker 2 We're building

Speaker 2 shanty towns.

Speaker 2 Our kids are being kicked out of their own schools so we can put illegals in a nice home because we're out of hotels.

Speaker 2 Is that crazy? Is that crazy?

Speaker 2 We don't even know who's in our country, Chris.

Speaker 2 Mark my words.

Speaker 2 The intelligence offices in the United States have just come out with a warning. They said

Speaker 2 that Hezbollah, Hamas,

Speaker 2 they have

Speaker 2 probably some operatives here in the United States. Oh, do you think so?

Speaker 2 So does every country that hates us. They're lining up at the border and we let them through.

Speaker 2 And boy, it's really crazy to ask why the Biden administration said, oh, if they're from China, pretty much just let them through.

Speaker 2 Did we learn nothing from 9-11, or did I just dream that up in a crazy fever dream, Chris? Is it crazy to insist the Constitution be followed and the Bill of Rights?

Speaker 2 That maybe we don't have secret courts, maybe we're not spied on, that our CIA and other intelligence agencies don't conduct cognitive operations, quote unquote, on our fellow citizens?

Speaker 2 Is it crazy to say we need to be energy independent at a time when oil tankers are being hijacked by Iran?

Speaker 2 When whole fleets of electric cars are being sold and the old combustion engine is back because the tech isn't there?

Speaker 2 Is it too much to ask in a country like ours to allow the citizens of the country, a republic, to make their own decisions on what they buy, what they eat, what medicine they inject in their own bodies?

Speaker 2 Is it really all that crazy to demand that the government rein in spending when we're at $34 trillion in debt and our deficit, just our deficit in December alone, was 50%

Speaker 2 higher than they said it would be?

Speaker 2 Is it really crazy to question authority when that authority has lied to you about serious issues, too too many to even even count

Speaker 2 corruption at the highest levels laptop russia clinton servers january 6th rays esg collusion with big tech to silence and censor those that do question is it really is that really crazy chris because to me it doesn't sound all that crazy

Speaker 2 How about some accountability? It's so crazy to ask for some answers on what happened in Afghanistan. Losing at least a billion dollars now, just reported, of our hard-earned money in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 And dare I say the lab leak, our role in that, as well as all the lies from the government and the companies like Pfizer and Fauci.

Speaker 2 It isn't crazy for those of us who actually believe in the Constitution.

Speaker 2 For those of us who actually believe in the Declaration Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights and the rule of law, not to be dismissed, demonized, called traitors, insurrectionists, or crazy.

Speaker 2 And Chris, until you and your elitist leftist friends who despise half the country, the half that actually works hard, plays by the rule, pays their taxes, fight and dies in our country's war, stop acting like all of your new ideas, like a hundred plus genders teaching of history that destroys the actual truth until you abandon your elitist attitude that we're all rubes and only you know better

Speaker 2 well I guess we'll continue to be crazy in your eyes but in ours it is your indeed

Speaker 2 clinical mental illness that is the real danger to freedom, democracy, or dare I say it, the republic.

Speaker 2 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Speaker 2 I've said to you for a while, 2024 is going to be a year that makes or breaks us. 2024,

Speaker 2 maybe it goes on to 2025, but it's going to happen. It's going to happen fast when it does.
Davos is meeting next week.

Speaker 2 We have a couple of people on the ground in Davos that will be giving us updates of what's going on, But their theme this year is restoring trust because it seems like nobody trusts us because of these crazy people who tell all this misinformation.

Speaker 2 So their number one

Speaker 2 threat

Speaker 2 they see in 2024 is mis and disinformation.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to give you some stuff that

Speaker 2 was heart-stopping for somebody who believes in free speech. In fact, it was so shocking to me, I sent it to my whole family and said, and so it begins.
Same with the economy.

Speaker 2 And we were talking about these

Speaker 2 natural or national assets.

Speaker 2 Natural asset companies. And these companies that will control the land.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I can't explain to you or express to you enough

Speaker 2 concern over this

Speaker 2 to wake people up. But if you are awake, you must

Speaker 2 get online and write the SEC. They have a time where you can publicly comment.
It has to be overwhelmingly, no, don't do this.

Speaker 2 And you have to get Congress and your senators involved in this right away. They'll be doing it later this month, or it is still,

Speaker 3 we have like six more days. Six more days.
What I've done is I have retweeted to the top of my Twitter feed my comments that I send to the SEC.

Speaker 3 And I invite everyone, you can borrow as little or the entire thing. And it shows you who to send it to.

Speaker 3 It tells you the subject line because you have to have the file number in the subject line, or they just won't read it. And you can just go ahead and copy that.

Speaker 2 I'm going to reach. I'm retweeting your tweet

Speaker 2 right now. So you can go Carol Roth or Glenn Beck, just find us on X and

Speaker 2 get the information. Copy and paste.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Glenn, let me just read to you two things that show you how insane and evil this is from the chairman of this IEG that created the company.

Speaker 3 And by the way, as I said before, creating a company structure is absolutely difficult, unusual, and a red flag in and of itself.

Speaker 3 But if that wasn't a big enough red flag, they have created their own system of accounting, which is not just a red flag, it is a neon sign. The CEO said, quote,

Speaker 3 we created a new accounting system, which we call statements of ecological performance, which account for the flow of ecosystem services in financial terms. What does that mean?

Speaker 3 That means absolutely nothing other than they are trying to scam the system, which, by the way, the climate cultists and social justice warriors, this is entirely what they're setting out to do.

Speaker 3 They're setting out to end around the legal system. The CEO said, reportedly said, quote, we are looking for a private sector approach that wasn't dependent on policy.

Speaker 3 It wasn't dependent on traditional taxes. It wasn't dependent on regulation or philanthropy to price.

Speaker 3 in these assets and give investors the opportunity to invest directly in nature, whether that's for climate or biodiversity.

Speaker 2 Okay, so no.

Speaker 3 So So they're telling you the plan right there.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let me just emphasize this. This is a company that cannot make any money.
It won't make any money. Why would you invest in that?

Speaker 2 Well, if you're Apple or Google and you're running all kinds of server farms and that has a big CO2 footprint, what do you do? You offset.

Speaker 2 So you buy Yellowstone National Park and you close it down for manage it, just return it to nature. There, I've done my part.

Speaker 2 That's the insidiousness of this. They'll keep on polluting, but they'll shut everything else that's not necessarily like cows, farms, you, your town.

Speaker 2 They'll shut everything down so you can't pollute because they need to offset their carbon footprint. Am I right?

Speaker 3 What about Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds, places that depend on oil, getting involved in lands where there's drilling to say, oh, well, we'll just stop the U.S. from drilling.

Speaker 3 They're our biggest competitors. You know, then we'll be cornering the market even more and be able to send the price of oil through the roof.
This is

Speaker 3 so incredibly dangerous, which is why we already had, I think it's 25 or 26 attorney generals from various states join with Utah and Kansas to oppose this. But we need more voices.

Speaker 3 There are people who have been writing and saying that they have been using their voice. We need to make a big deal about this or it's going to be too late for

Speaker 3 this motion.

Speaker 2 Six days.

Speaker 2 Six days later. Six days.
Okay. Let me switch to the other thing that King Biden has decided through the Labor Department.

Speaker 2 Gavin Newsom put through that the gig economy was over in California. Everyone, Republicans, Democrats, everyone since it's been implemented has said, this is a disaster.
Explain what it is.

Speaker 3 So this came out of

Speaker 3 the bad incubator for all ideas in the United States was just California. It was called AB5 there.

Speaker 3 And unfortunately, people laughed when we first talked about it and said, oh, people of California get what they vote for. And I said,

Speaker 3 don't say that because it's coming to America.

Speaker 3 And what they decided to do was go after small businesses, the gig gig economy, and economic freedom to say, we don't want people to be able to work independently.

Speaker 3 We want to force them to be employees. For people who are so concerned about choice, they do not seem to care if you have a choice of labor.

Speaker 3 So imagine, Glenn, I come to you and say, listen, I'm busy with all these other things, but I want to, you know, write for the blaze. Let's just enter into a contractor relationship.

Speaker 3 You don't have to take me on as an employee and I will write for the blaze. And you say, great.
And the government goes, I'm sorry, guys. You know, we can't do that.

Speaker 3 They are getting in the middle of that. And maybe you say, well, you know, the Blaze is a big organization.
So, you know, what does it matter? But this impacts

Speaker 3 tens of millions of small businesses and almost 60 million gig workers. By the way, the greater majority of them want to be independent.
They value their flexibility.

Speaker 3 They value the ability to set work on their own terms.

Speaker 3 And the government wants to come in, not again, through legislation, but through a rule, through the executive branch and say, I'm sorry that you want to work that way. You cannot work.

Speaker 3 They want to take away your ability to set the terms of how you work.

Speaker 2 Just so you know, that. pretty much ends DoorDash.
It ends Uber because the people have to be paid by Uber and then their insurance is paid for. I doubt they could even use their own car.

Speaker 2 How many people have you gotten into their car in an Uber and they'll say, I just love this. I, you know, I do it.
I make extra money. I set my own hours.
I drive when I want.

Speaker 2 I drive, you know, I don't drive. It's fantastic.
All of that would be gone. You would have to become an employee.

Speaker 3 Well, you know what's going to happen like they did in California. The big companies will band together and get an exception.

Speaker 3 But who won't be able to do that are the small businesses that depend on the gig economy, the movie sets that have a caterer, the hairdresser who rents a chair at a salon, the business who hires somebody to do some editorial content a couple times a year.

Speaker 3 Those are the businesses that are going to get hurt.

Speaker 3 So this is, again, a total focus on centralizing the economy in the hands of big unions, big company, big labor, and they want to kill small businesses and freedom that don't toe the line.

Speaker 3 They don't want you to be able to do what you want to do and work the way you want to do. They want to control every aspect of it.

Speaker 3 And what it's going to do is kill the number of jobs and opportunities. We should be growing this country.
We have a massive deficit.

Speaker 3 The way out is through growing revenues and through freedom and expanding our revenue base. And all they do is continue to put up barriers to us being able to work and live freely.

Speaker 2 And you know what? It's not just economic barriers. It's the DEI crap and all that.
I did a monologue at the beginning of the show about Boeing.

Speaker 2 You want to know why Boeing, their planes are falling out of the sky. They're going to go bankrupt.
Boeing, Boeing, one of the greatest aircraft companies of all time.

Speaker 2 They're going to go out of business. Why?

Speaker 2 Because they've embraced DEI and diversity and they've looked at everything as just make money, accounting, not engineering.

Speaker 2 They have violated all of the well-known principles of how to run an aircraft company. And

Speaker 2 that's what we're doing to everything. That's what we're doing to the country.
We're violating all of these very well-established principles for new ideas. I got a new idea on how to account.

Speaker 2 I have a new idea about inflation. We can spend as much as we want.
It doesn't matter because I say it doesn't matter. That's bull crap.

Speaker 2 Universal principles do not change. And we're starting to see the effects of it.
And when it starts to crumble, it's going to crumble quickly. You lose Boeing?

Speaker 2 What's going to happen? It's going to happen. Will the government step in and pick it up? I guarantee you there'll be shouts for that.

Speaker 2 Well, this is so important strategically that maybe the United States government. We are going to be the country that builds the Zill again.

Speaker 2 There is a reason why Russia, everything they built was crap.

Speaker 2 And we are quickly following in those footsteps. Carol, thank you.

Speaker 3 Thanks, Glenn.

Speaker 2 I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Please do yourself a favor.

Speaker 2 Everything is connected. Everything is connected.

Speaker 2 These are not just random mistakes.

Speaker 2 They're not just, oh, wow, that policy didn't really work. I think they're all designed to not work.
They're all designed to change us fundamentally, to destroy what we have.

Speaker 2 You'll be poor, you'll own nothing, and you'll like it. No, I don't want that.

Speaker 2 That's my choice, not your choice.

Speaker 2 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you, you better not question my intelligence. I'll tell you that right now.

Speaker 2 Thomas Massey is with us, who is just on CNN, questioning the intelligence of some of the anchors there. I don't know how you could possibly do that, Thomas Massey.

Speaker 5 Well, I just questioned their preparedness. Now, I never questioned that about you or your staff.

Speaker 2 And we're the ones you should, really.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 5 No, she claimed she referenced 19 different things I had voted on and claimed she had spent a whopping two minutes studying one of them and it made her an expert.

Speaker 2 Okay, we want to talk to you about what's happening

Speaker 2 overseas with the Houthis.

Speaker 2 I'm really torn on this because I feel as though we are backing into yet another war. I also think there are people in this administration that want war.

Speaker 2 I also know that this administration continues to send money over to Iran. So, you know, our literal enemy in this, we're helping fund.
So this isn't serious on anybody's part. However,

Speaker 2 however, they are shooting at us, launching missiles at our Navy, and aren't we defending ourselves? How should we look at this?

Speaker 5 Well, first of all, you should look at it as this is election season.

Speaker 5 And when you're at war, you know, there's a greater tendency to vote for the commander-in-chief who's waging the war. And I am worried that he's going to draw us into a war with this.

Speaker 5 Now, I believe that he has an obligation to come to Congress, and I think he had time to do it.

Speaker 5 If he had time to organize an international coalition, or at least with Great Britain, to pull this off, he had time to come to us. And the War Powers Act

Speaker 5 requires him to do that.

Speaker 5 It allows him to respond defensively in the case of emergency, but that would be like an imminent attack. It wouldn't be something where you plan

Speaker 5 some kind of retaliation for things that have gone on for months.

Speaker 2 Can we talk about the War Powers Act here for a second? Because I believe the War Powers Act is correct in a world where we have missiles.

Speaker 2 If somebody's launching a missile, the president does not have time to go to Congress and say, hey, I want to make my case here that in 12 minutes we're all going to be vaporized.

Speaker 2 However, like you said, it's been 90 days, 90 plus days since this happened. We've watched it happen.

Speaker 2 They've been fighting and shooting against us, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 The president has a responsibility to go in front of the American people and Congress and make his case. And Congress needs to decide.

Speaker 5 Correct? Absolutely. Absolutely.
You are absolutely correct. We have abdicated, though, our authority.

Speaker 5 We've been involved in Yemen. Here's what I don't see reported in the news since about 2015.
And in 2018, I teamed up with Rokana and tried to get a war powers resolution passed

Speaker 5 to get us back out of Yemen. This was in 2018.
Paul Ryan did a parliamentary trick. He hid the vote on our war powers resolution in the farm bill.

Speaker 5 And then, so people voted for the farm bill and and put our war powers resolution to bed. So we tried again, and he hit it in the Manage Our Wolves Act.

Speaker 5 If you voted for the Manage Our Wolves Act to come to the floor of the House, you voted against the Rokana Thomas Massey war powers resolution, according to the War Powers Act, to get us out of Yemen.

Speaker 5 Think of this.

Speaker 2 Our Congress is voting on management of wolves,

Speaker 2 but not whether or not we go to war.

Speaker 2 Correct.

Speaker 5 And then, so

Speaker 5 a year later, we were able to get it to the floor. We passed it in the House.

Speaker 5 We followed, you know, I don't even agree completely with the War Powers Act that was passed in the 1970s, especially not the interpretation that people have of it.

Speaker 5 But we were able to get a resolution passed to get us out of Yemen in 2019. And then it went from the House to the Senate, and they passed it with 53 votes.
But Donald Trump vetoed it.

Speaker 5 Now, it was, you know, it's within his authority to veto it, but that demonstrated to me how ridiculous the War Powers Act is because effectively

Speaker 5 it takes two-thirds of us to override a president's veto.

Speaker 5 So what it means is the War Powers Act, if you believe in it, with 33% of Congress, the president can go to war because it takes two-thirds to stop him. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 So what are you hearing up on the Hill about all of this? Where are we headed, Thomas?

Speaker 5 I mean, I am worried that we're going to be expanding conflicts in the Middle East.

Speaker 5 There's some people up here that are just begging for a war with Iran.

Speaker 5 And whether it's

Speaker 5 something that grows out of Gaza or whether it's something that grows out of Yemen,

Speaker 5 and I think we need to take a step back and look at this and say,

Speaker 5 is that in the best interest of our country to have a full-blown war with Iran? And I'm worried that this president would like to have it

Speaker 5 have something hot going on before the election or during the election.

Speaker 2 Well, the national intelligence agencies came out today and warned that

Speaker 2 Hezbollah has assets here in America and that they're concerned that this could mean a direct strike here in the homeland, which I don't think would play well for all of those who had an open border.

Speaker 5 I mean, this is the big exposure we have at the open border.

Speaker 5 Not only are we going to economically destroy our country by bringing so many illegal immigrants into the country so quickly, it's so porous that y you know, uh, Hezbollah can't walk across the border.

Speaker 5 And no doubt they are here. They could activate.
I mean, the

Speaker 5 what was it, fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were actually from Saudi Arabia and were here legally for the most part, I think. But now we're looking at a different threat, and it only takes 19

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 5 do something very bad in this country, as we saw on 9-11.

Speaker 2 Nikki Haley,

Speaker 2 during the last debate, basically called you an anti-Semite. Why do you hate the Jews so much?

Speaker 5 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 5 As Ron DeSantis says, that's cheap garbage. And as I tweeted, I'm living rent-free in her head.
And trust me, there's lots of empty space in here.

Speaker 5 She had her understanding of the bills that I've been voting on is one inch deep.

Speaker 5 Whereas, you know, Ron DeSantis, even though he and I disagree on this issue, he understands where I'm coming from, and he's not astro turf like Nikki Haley is.

Speaker 5 This is why she stopped taking questions at town halls. If you go more than one question deep, she doesn't know what she's talking about.
But she was attacking me on votes.

Speaker 5 For instance, I didn't vote for the $14 billion

Speaker 5 financial package to Israel. Now we can have a discussion about that, whether

Speaker 5 we can afford that and whether we should be doing that or not. But she claims that I'm anti-Semitic or anti-Israel because I'm not voting for foreign aid.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 I've never voted for foreign aid to any country. I'm not picking on any country.

Speaker 5 And then there were some resolutions where we can have legitimate disagreements about whether it infringes on free speech. And then

Speaker 5 there was a vote that I took against a resolution that says anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. Now, it's true that a lot of anti-Semites are against Israel, just by definition,

Speaker 5 but it's not true that if you have harsh criticism of Israel, or even if you don't believe in Zionism, that you are also an anti-Semite.

Speaker 5 Because if that were true, there'd be a lot of Jews who are anti-Semites.

Speaker 2 I know, I was going to say, a lot of the Hasidic Jews here in America despise Israel, say it's an abomination of a state because it's not a religious state. So are they anti-Semites, too?

Speaker 2 I don't think they are. Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 I don't think Gerald Madler is anti-Semite. He's Jewish.

Speaker 5 He spoke against that resolution on the floor.

Speaker 5 The sad thing is, we've had 19 votes like that. since our new speaker became speaker, and what we should be focusing on is our own spending bills and cutting spending.

Speaker 5 Instead, we pass these resolutions, which are frankly political gotchas. The Republicans are trying to use that issue to catch the Democrats up in votes and then use it to get them unelected.

Speaker 5 And I just don't have an appetite for that when we should be focused on our fiscal issues.

Speaker 5 Right now in the House, we are about to throw away all the spending caps that were put in place this summer.

Speaker 5 I was on your show talking about this, taking heat from you.

Speaker 2 Because I said, oh, I remember when I was young and naive.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 5 And I said, you know, maybe I'm getting fooled here.

Speaker 5 Glenn, they're signing it into law. They did.
The White House and the Senate put those caps into law.

Speaker 5 And now they are undoing the law. This is, I mean, we've never got that far.
It's kind of Lucy and the football. I mean, my foot contacted the football.
I've never got to that point.

Speaker 5 The problem is they had somebody illegally blocking or something.

Speaker 5 They are about to, what happened is the Senate and the White House had buyers' remorse, and the military hawks here and the appropriators on the Republican side are forcing Mike Johnson through, I'll call it violence, you know, parliamentary violence.

Speaker 5 They're just like, well, you know, we'll cause the government to shut down, and you'll be blamed for it, Mike, if you don't undo the deal from this summer.

Speaker 2 Good.

Speaker 2 You know, honestly, Thomas, you know and I know this government is dismantling America.

Speaker 2 We'd be better off with the government shut down for a while to be able to put it back on a leash by cutting all of this spending. I mean, good.

Speaker 2 Good. Shut it down.

Speaker 5 I agree with you, but there's another option that they agreed to this summer, which is if they would do what Jim Jordan and Warren Davidson I prescribed and they agreed to, which is a long-term CR,

Speaker 5 there would never be a threat of a shutdown, but there would be a 1% cut on April 30th to every department in the United States of America's government. And

Speaker 5 there wouldn't be a chance of a shutdown, but that would motivate, I think, people to come to the table and get policies like securing the border.

Speaker 5 And without a shutdown, here's what happens when you have a shutdown.

Speaker 5 We got, and you know this as well as I, there's at least a dozen members here in the GOP conference who will cross the aisle and sign something with the Democrats to stiff us on this.

Speaker 5 It's deplorable, but they'll do it. And some of them have already announced their retirement, so they don't care.

Speaker 2 So bad.

Speaker 2 So bad. Thank you very much.
I appreciate it. Thomas Massey, as always.
Go ahead. Keep taking them on.
Thanks. Thank you, brother.
Bye. Thank you, bad.
Bye.

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