Was Jeffrey Epstein a Government SPY? | Guest: Cleta Mitchell | 1/5/24

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Glenn reviews and analyzes the documentary movie “Tetris.” Glenn and Stu discuss the Tucker Carlson interview with Jeffrey Epstein’s brother. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss the theory that Jeffrey Epstein was a government spy. The more we learn about Jeffrey Epstein, the more questions we have. Glenn and Stu go over the recent Iowa tragedy and how the media is avoiding personal details about the perpetrator. Has America reached peak wokeness? Glenn breaks down what real Christian nationalism is and how it’s different from being a country-loving Christian. Election attorney Cleta Mitchell joins to discuss how Republicans are gearing up for the 2024 presidential election. Glenn and Stu discuss the worsening border crisis as footage shows people crossing the border without issue. Will California begin paying for citizens' sex changes?
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For the first time ever,

a 13-year-old boy has beaten the original Tetris.

It is just the coolest moment you've ever seen.

I didn't even know that nobody had ever beat it before.

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So you were, if I'm not mistaken, Stu,

you were a big deal in your school when you were, what, in high school?

I mean, it's the biggest accomplishment of my life.

It was definitely before high school, I will say.

But it was,

I was the first kid in my high school or school, middle school, whatever it was, to beat Mike Tyson's punch out

back in the day on Nintendo.

And when you beat Mike Tyson, it was like,

I remember kids coming up to me, I didn't even know, like congratulating me.

That is so cool.

It's the the only real accomplishment I've had in my life.

Yeah, yeah, and it we go all downhill.

It really dwarfs everything else you've done.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's quite true.

So, you know, but like, I

don't know.

I mean, this kid is like incredible.

We watched the video before the show started, but it's like now I can't even imagine that's a big deal because five seconds after the game comes out, there's somebody online beating it.

Like, I mean, Tetris came out when?

In the 80s?

1984?

1984?

I think for an interview.

No one has has ever completed the game.

That's amazing.

That's incredible.

So on YouTube, this kid,

he's from Oklahoma.

He's just playing Tetris, and he's got it on YouTube, 41 minutes of him just playing Tetris.

And

then you know how it gets faster and faster and faster and faster to where, you know, it always

just builds up and you're like, okay, I'm doomed.

Impossibly

everyone loses, right?

He hits all of those.

Do we have the clip?

Listen to this

play.

It's amazing.

He is.

And he's not performing for the camera.

It's like he completely forgot that the camera's on it.

At one point, he says, I can't feel my hands.

It's just so cool.

Just so cool.

Did you see the Tetris movie?

Yes, I did.

Yeah.

Okay.

Which is a great, you want to talk about a movie that's great to tell you a great story about capitalism.

Oh, yeah.

As opposed to socialism.

Oh, yeah.

And communism.

So

the idea of the movie is that Tetris was actually

somebody that came up with it was a Soviet citizen.

Well, you can't do things like that in the Soviet Union, you know?

So I don't remember the state owned it, right?

Yeah, the state owned everything.

Yeah, the state owned it.

If you achieve something in the Soviet Union, the state owns it.

And so somebody found out that that

game

was still available, not on the arcade, but for like PlayStations or what was the first

gaming consoles.

And so this guy had this idea, I'm going to go over to Russia and I'm just going to buy the rights.

Well, there's no such thing as rights over in Russia.

So the whole movie is about him trying to negotiate and get the rights.

And then a nefarious character steps in.

And this Robert guy, who is, he was a member of parliament, he owns all the newspapers, He's a billionaire.

Everybody loves him.

He's

the guy, the real life guy, you know, tried to buy Manchester United.

Everybody knows him.

He's a war hero.

But in the movie, he's a big fat cigar smoking oaf

that is just a dirty, dirty guy.

Well, He sends his son to go to the Soviet Union and get Tetris.

Do whatever you have to do, but you get those rights.

So the battle in the movie is between these two guys, just an American who's just out on his own, has no money, battling not only the Soviet Union, but this billionaire

in

London.

If you haven't watched the movie, it's well worth it.

Well worth it.

So I told you when we started that I would show you how everything today is connected to Jeffrey Epstein.

The guy who is the Robert character in that movie is Robert Maxwell,

Ghelane Maxwell's dad.

Okay.

Right.

That story in and of itself is insane.

Do you know his story?

I mean, she was, if I remember correctly, she was very wealthy.

He was very wealthy.

And the whole thing blew up at one point.

So he's, and it shows the beginning of that in the Tetris movie.

So he's, first of all, he is living in Czechoslovakia during World War II.

All of his family is rounded up by the Nazis in Czechoslovakia, and they're all gassed.

He survives because he had escaped to France.

He gets to France.

He's fighting in the underground with the French.

And then

the Nazis take over France, so he has to go over to England.

So he goes over to England.

He begins to organize a resistance in England with the English.

And he goes back, he lands on the beaches of Normandy.

He's an incredible war hero.

He storms the beach, and he's the guy who climbed the cliff.

and went into the machine gun nest and killed them all, okay, in where he was.

So he wins, you know, all kinds of awards and everything else.

He becomes a British citizen

and

he just goes into business.

And

he becomes a newspaper publisher.

He owns the Daily Mirror.

He owns,

what else?

The Daily Mirror.

He ends up owning the New York Post here in America and

is just gobbling up everything.

Very powerful.

He's Rupert Murdoch today.

The Tetris thing happens

and you remember in the movie how much his

father was, you've got, you have to get Tetris.

You have to get Tetris.

And then what happens when he loses?

His son comes back and says.

The comes back and says, wait, I'm hearing rumors

that you've taken from the pension fund, dad.

What happened was his whole empire was crumbling.

Now, he was bulletproof.

He was a member of parliament.

He was Teflon.

Nothing ever stuck to this guy.

The Foreign Office in England said he's a Mossad spy.

However, he's not just a spy for Israel.

We think he's a spy for Russia, too.

We think he's a,

what do you call it,

a three-way spy.

He's turned twice

and

is making money and providing information for Russia and Israel.

But nobody could ever make any of that stick.

He then has his company start to fall on

hard times.

And he starts stealing from the pension fund for the employees.

And he's like, well, we'll just make it back well he's caught because everything begins to collapse he's now going to prison

and guess what happens to him

he commits suicide

or does he

it's still to this day

murky Just like Jeffrey Epstein.

Did he really kill himself?

Did Did somebody have him killed?

Or did he, did he,

was he, you know, was he pushed?

He died on his yacht.

He was big into yachting, but he fell

off of his yacht and drowned.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

So that's who Ghelane Maxwell's dad is.

So when you're hearing today the story of Jeffrey Epstein, and

I don't know know why this feels like a new story to so many people,

but when you're hearing the story now that, you know, Epstein might have been a spy for Mossad,

absolutely he's a spy for somebody.

He was absolutely a honeypot guy for some country, maybe multiple countries, and probably this country.

I mean, he is, this is the kind of stuff we did in World War II, except we did it with women.

but that, I guess, is not shameful anymore.

So you got to do it with little kids.

God help us on what comes next.

But

if you look at now what is being, what is coming out,

we've suspected, we don't have proof, but we suspect that he was part of an intelligence agency and he was blackmailing elites.

And he would get them on tape and then get them to do whatever his bosses needed them to do.

Now, at some point,

it's interesting

because

he got a get out of jail free card.

He had a

do not prosecute

agreement with the government that

He knew about going into jail.

Do not prosecute.

It was only a matter of time before his attorneys, he had bail hearing two days after his suicide, and

his attorneys were going to present the do not prosecute.

It was only a matter of time before that happened.

So why would he kill himself?

If he knew the United States government couldn't do anything to him,

why,

why

would they go after him?

I mean,

why would he take paper sheets?

He did have a do not prosecute issue, but that was, I mean, I don't think that was going to hold up.

Why?

Why?

Well, because

I mean, first of all, I don't know how it's even possible for that thing to exist.

It was bizarre.

It was like, hey, some local

area is going to say that

no other authority, including the federal government, can prosecute him for any crime.

It was like it's such a bizarre arrangement in the first place, which is one of the reasons why people are so suspicious of the whole situation.

But I don't think it would have held up.

I don't think he would have been able to say, okay, well, you have to let me go.

They all knew about this when they arrested him on the tarmac.

So I have to tell you, they did know about it.

I don't think it would have held up because scrutiny

and because people were so aware of everything that was going on and

it started to come out that, I mean, the first time that Jeffrey Epstein was prosecuted, do you even remember that?

Not really.

Yeah, not really.

It was more of a Florida thing, and I remember kind of, but not really.

Talked about it a little bit at the time.

It wasn't a huge story.

Correct.

Now everybody knew who he was.

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so uh tucker carlson did an interview with epstein's brother and he points out that he was just days off from a bail hearing

and his brother wasn't suicidal, etc., etc.

Okay,

let's just ask a few questions here.

If he didn't kill himself,

who did?

Well, I think we should start asking some questions.

We should find out who was in that cell block.

The one who is currently dead or missing

is the one most likely that killed Epstein.

Who was in

the cell block?

Imagine if they would have tried to put Epstein on trial.

What a show that would have turned into.

If they wouldn't do it, all of the questions that would be asked.

So this coupled with the broken cameras,

the cellmate that was removed from his cell the day before he died,

the guards who falsified the records and then both

fell asleep.

I mean, really,

don't you have to be a complete moron to not at least

think that's a pretty good possibility

that something nefarious is going on?

Did anybody find out who exactly ordered the cellmate to be removed after telling the Justice Department that someone would be in the cell with him?

Who made that call?

Why did they make that call?

I haven't heard anything about that person.

Have they ever been challenged and asked exactly why did you do this?

Who was the person that was removed?

Has that prisoner been interrogated and asked what was going on the day before?

I think a private investigator would, I mean, this would be a really, this would be a big story if you could get to it.

How about the two prison guards?

Have their lifestyles changed at all?

Or do they just, you know,

walk clean and find new jobs?

They were both sleeping.

What happened to those guys?

How is Maxwell still alive?

The Tiger King will do interviews from jail,

but not a peep from her.

Where are the books, the logs, the tapes, the videos, the details?

I can guarantee you they're going to somehow go missing.

That's what's going to happen.

This is a giant game of Tetris

that maybe

40 years down the road some 13 year old kid will finally crack the code.

But I don't think we're going to see the end of this.

And I'm I'm worried because people are just starting, people are so hungry for justice.

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You create this when you lie repeatedly and destroy your credibility.

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It will only make it worse.

At some point, there has to be a reckoning.

And

I don't know how we get there, but it has to happen.

And hopefully, it won't be a vigilante reckoning.

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Welcome to the program, Pat.

How are you?

Perfect.

Yeah.

You?

In almost every way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And Stu is with us.

Shall we spend just a little bit more time on Jeffrey Epstein?

Because you think that I'm way out on a limb here.

You've built multiple theories on top of multiple theories, which may all be true, but it feels like...

You know, you've got to be a little bit more detailed.

So

let me just see, the two of you,

what you think is a, I mean, they're all theories.

We don't know because we don't have any evidence.

But what seems like a conspiracy theory that is like crazy, and what one is like, I think that's probably true.

Jeffrey Epstein,

was he an agent for the CIA, the Mossad, or somebody?

Was he doing this at the behest of some government and collecting power for that government?

I think that's possible.

Plausible or possible?

Right.

Somewhere in there.

Now, remember, this is the first building block of the theory you just unleashed, which you said this was definite.

So it is.

And you may be right.

I don't know.

But I think it's really clear.

This is why

to me, it's still a leap, but we don't know for sure.

Although it seems like a plausible theory, right?

I mean, all the stuff, all the people he was connected to.

Tulane maxwell's dad was a spy for russia and the bassad i mean it's i mean it's pretty

and what if how else do you get away with what he did how else do you get away with it for that long

i mean he wound up dead yeah right in jail yeah he didn't wind up getting away i mean i don't know about getting away with protection how i would term that but again with a do not prosecute order from the federal government

listen to his listen to his brother.

Can we play this cut?

This is from Tucker Carlson.

He's doing an interview with Epstein's brother just a couple of days ago.

Plus, there's reasons why he wouldn't kill himself then.

He had a hearing scheduled

to appeal the bail decision coming up in a few days.

And the bail was being increased.

So there's a chance he could have got bail, even as unpalatable as that might have been to some people.

You know, in the United States, you're entitled to bail under certain conditions.

But,

you know, so I could see if he went for the hearing for bail and it was denied, then I can see him taking himself out if he didn't want to spend a year in jail waiting for a trial.

Yeah.

But not a few days before.

That makes no sense.

Carlson goes on to say, you know, it's a deal with the United States.

No, I'm sorry.

His brother says it's a deal with the United States.

And, you know, these are, this isn't, you know, when you have a deal with the federal government, you have a deal with the federal federal government.

Okay.

So

you believe in the deal?

I mean, you know, you recognize that there was a deal.

There was a deal, for sure.

I mean, that was, you know, reported widely.

How it could possibly be something that is allowed in our legal system is a whole nother story.

But there was accusations at the time of a local prosecutor there, right?

A district attorney helping him out through this.

Yeah, I mean, it's a little cloudy, I am, on some of the details of it, but I do remember the deal.

Do you think it's a coincidence

that

he had this swept under the rug by some of the most powerful people over and over and over again?

And then when it just couldn't hold water anymore,

he goes to jail, and then the

guards falsify the records.

They fall asleep.

The guy who is in in the cell with him,

gone,

gone, who was promised by the prison,

the government was promised there will be someone in the cell with him at all times.

They then remove that guy.

All the cameras go out.

I mean, no, yeah.

We've gone over this.

We had authors on about this that wrote a book based on this theory that he didn't kill himself, right?

There's all sorts of weird stuff around that, but we don't know for sure, obviously.

So, do you buy that?

That he killed himself?

I don't know.

I mean, I think it's very suspicious, but I wasn't there.

Don't know.

I don't buy it.

I've never thought he killed himself.

I'm not asking you for, I'm not asking for conviction here.

Right.

I'm asking,

does that seem right to you?

It definitely is a very strange story.

Yeah.

Right.

Like,

if, if you were, like, I, the way to easily look at this is if tomorrow we came out and there was, we found video of him being murdered by someone, would you be surprised?

And the answer to that is no.

No, right.

Like, I would not be surprised at all.

Correct.

And I'm not saying who was involved.

I have no idea who was involved.

It just seems more likely

that he was offed.

And here's another piece of evidence for that.

We're not getting any of the details.

We're just getting names.

Okay.

Yeah.

We don't know what these people did.

We don't, I mean, just because you had a business meeting with him doesn't mean you were off to pedophile island.

Right.

You know what I mean?

And

so, and we're getting this just from an accuser.

We

know the federal government.

We know that

the that he made tapes to hold his blackmail.

We know that.

Everything, including his bathrooms, had cameras in them.

We know he had a collection of those things.

We know the federal government went into all of his homes and broke down the door and took,

I mean, boxes and boxes of stuff, all the tapes, all the records.

The FBI has all those things.

Why hasn't the FBI done anything with any of that?

It's a good question.

And, you know, all the stuff we saw from these documents, like you said, it doesn't really provide any new information.

We don't know anything better, anything more this week than we did last week.

The same stuff.

This is like the Bankman-Fried story where the Justice Department, they get him for,

you know, corruption and fraud and everything else.

They get him for that.

But then the Justice Department, when they say, okay, now it's time to look at the bribery.

Who was he bribing?

Who was he paying off in our government?

All of a sudden, they stop it and they say, we're not going to even go there because,

you know, people want a speedy trial.

No, really, no, I'm not looking for a speedy trial on that one.

I want to find out the evidence.

And the same thing with this.

Why is this being shoved under the carpet when the American people are all saying,

What was that story really all about?

Who was really involved in that?

The development this week, though, is that we are seeing these things, right?

We've seen more today than we ever have.

We have more information about this story than we've ever had as of today.

But

only from people that are claiming things.

We're not

saying these documents that came out

from the trials.

Now, to me, there's a whole other slew of this that is being protected,

which was the raid, right?

Like, they raided this guy's condo when he's on the tarmac, right?

He's being arrested.

They raid his condo.

They take everything out of there.

God only knows what evidence

that you probably wouldn't want to put your hands without gloves on that existed in that home.

And that's just kind of like, we don't know anything really about that, right?

Like that wasn't because he's dead, the trial doesn't go on.

And do we ever get to the bottom of that?

That's weird, isn't it?

I know, but that's exactly what it is, right?

Like, I mean,

it happens.

Yeah.

You know, not in that jail normally.

Like, it's been 45 years since anything like that happened.

Yeah, but it could happen.

But it could happen.

It happens.

Yeah.

So here's the last question.

You're the president of the United States.

At this time, let's say

you're not on either side.

You're just like this, all of a sudden, Abraham Lincoln has risen up and he's like finds himself in the Oval Office and he's like, you know, I'm going to do some things while I'm here today.

Okay.

And he looks at all of this.

Would you release all of it, no matter what it said

or not?

Would it do more damage to the country?

I mean, I have an answer, but I'd like to hear yours.

Would it do more damage to the country to see that our CIA and intelligence agencies do this kind of stuff for decades and protect these kinds of people for decades

and children are just thrown to the wolves.

I mean, I think, yeah, of course I would want to know that, right?

I mean, I think if so many people suspect it anyway, I don't think it would be that jarring to the American people at this point that our government was doing these types of things.

But of course, I would want to know.

Is there a,

I mean, there are times where that question is tough to answer because you're talking about, let's say, national security issues, right?

Like, you know, are they going to get into a nuclear war.

I mean, there are times where that, but this, I don't think that this rises to that level at all.

But again, I don't know what's in the files.

God only knows what's in there.

Yeah.

I mean, if it's national security issues, then you got to be careful about it.

Well, everything's national security.

But everything else, I think, should come out.

I mean, we already know the CIA is

shady, right?

I think that's too light of a word.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Despicable.

Evil.

Evil.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We already know that.

Yeah.

And so would it surprise anybody?

Maybe a few.

Maybe some would be surprised, but I wouldn't be surprised.

And yeah, I think we should know.

Well, I think that we're the ones paying everybody's salary.

Yeah.

I mean, they always seem to forget that they work for us.

No, no, no.

We're protecting you.

From whom?

You or an outside force?

And are you protecting yourself from us?

Because I think America, if it doesn't

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if it doesn't recognize,

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And again, I don't need all of the details, but I do need you to take

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And I'll, as a citizen, I'll take my part and say, hey, I didn't pay attention enough.

I've learned my lesson.

We'll pay attention more.

But unless we vomit this stuff up,

we can never put it back together.

Did you agree?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And last theory,

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Yeah.

No, I agree with that.

Yeah.

I think that's a foregone conclusion.

Which means to me, we don't ever put it back together.

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You just got to bring it right to the table.

Researchers are saying now, according to the New York Times, that flowers are evolving to have less sex.

Less flower sex?

Less flower sex.

Now,

we've never touched the very controversial topic of

when was the last time you saw your pansies humping in the garden.

But

they're not doing it anymore.

I don't know when they do it.

I've never seen that.

But,

you know, part of it is, you know, bees and birds and others, you know, they'll go and be attracted to it and then they'll pollinate.

But, well, we're killing all the bees.

And

so, you know, they're just having to resort to having sex with themselves.

Wow.

That's jarring, Garden.

It is.

I guess the big question is, how is Epstein involved?

There's got to be a way.

How do we tie him into this?

I don't know if he was in the world.

He's involved in Tetris.

We know that.

He's involved.

He's an international spy.

We know that now.

And now, he's obviously affecting flower sex in some bad way.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

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I want to talk about the shooting that happened yesterday at Perry High School.

There is...

There is...

I just read the most perplexing story on it.

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Okay, I want to give you the headline of this story, but first let me give you the story.

All evidence thus far suggests that Butler acted alone.

Police have confirmed that one deceased victim of Dylan Butler's shooting rampage at Perry High School was a sixth grade student and that an improvised explosive device was found on site.

Police say the sixth grade student was at the high school because he was participating at a breakfast program prior to the start of the school day that is located at the high school.

17-year-old student killed one, injuring five, early Thursday morning before turning the gun on himself.

None of the victims' names have been publicly released.

Police say there was no indication the shooting had anything to do with race.

During a press conference, police confirmed Butler had murdered a sixth-grade student.

Four of those injured were students, while a fifth was a school administrator.

The surviving victims are currently being treated at area hospitals.

The shooter has been identified as 17-year-old Dylan Butler, police said, noting that he was a student at Perry High School.

Butler was found to have been carrying a pump action shotgun and a small caliber handgun at the time.

He also made a number of social media posts in and around the time of the shooting.

All evidence thus far shows that he acted alone.

Officers located during the search of the school an improvised explosive device, according to police, and they have rendered the device safe.

Okay, you got a lot of information there, right?

Yeah, for sure.

Lots of information.

Now let me give you the headline.

Breaking.

Iowa police confirmed sixth grade student killed by gender fluid Dylan Butler during Perry High School shooting.

IED found on the site.

Now,

why is gender fluid in the headline

but not in the story?

I don't know.

What is the publication that is given?

The publication Postmillennial.

Okay, yeah, but the Postmillennial certainly wouldn't be one to shy away from giving that detail.

Obviously, putting it in the headline tells you that.

Because I haven't heard.

I listened to multiple stories about that, and they did not mention the gender fluid thing at all.

Right.

Wasn't at all part of the story.

Really conservative outlets.

But it is not part of this story either.

I don't know.

That's I mean, from another publication, I would read more into that.

I mean, the post-millennial is not

the type of publication that I think would shy shy away from.

No, I don't think they would shy away from it either.

Yeah.

But why isn't that in the story?

I can't answer that.

I don't know.

I mean,

I find that fascinating.

I understand why others would shy away.

Right, yes.

And they are.

Yeah, and they are.

It was all about gun violence.

I listened to a whole report on it.

It was all about gun violence.

It was about two things, Glenn.

It was about gun violence and the gun violence problem.

Number one, patriotism.

And number two, what do the Republican candidates in Iowa think about it?

What are they going to do about it?

Why won't they commit to doing something?

It's like, well,

there's so many problems with that type of coverage, but it's amazing that they just keep doing it.

Like, they just keep rolling out the same reports for these stories over and over and over again.

And like, if there's anything, look, we have, there's violence in every country.

There's a million things that we've gone over before that we don't need to rehash here.

But like, if there's anything new in this type of story,

it does seem to be that these types of incidents are happening more and more with people who have these sort of identifications for themselves.

And that is a.

Because they're confused as it is.

And then they're being told, oh, just go with it, and it's not helping them.

I mean, it's, it's, this is so.

Our problems are so easy to fix.

You could go into any coffee shop in America and you could grab, you know, just the five people who are paying attention out of everybody.

Are there five people here who can name the president and

the three branches of government?

Can you come on over to my table?

We would be able to fix this.

If we were put in charge, you'd be able to fix this.

A lot of this stuff is so common sense.

That's interesting.

Because I think if applied,

if applied, common sense would solve a lot of these problems.

Yes.

But like,

think about that in the real world, in this world that we live in.

How?

I mean, even if you convinced the medical establishment, which I think is a real goal here, and I think it is something that is potentially achievable, the medical establishment, look, what you guys have done over the past 15 years with all this gender stuff and all this is bad.

We're seeing it happen in foreign countries, right?

They're reversing the path.

France.

It's Sweden.

Yeah, the UK.

We're seeing progress

in that world to get back to some sort of rational view here.

But even if you were to accomplish that, there are so many people with so many goals that are at odds with that approach that they wouldn't.

I mean, you think the mainstream media is going to abandon this because the medical establishment changes?

I doubt it.

Think about all the sites and bloggers and influencers and all the people that people actually get their news from that would continue down this road anyway and

would still create people

like the person who seems to be in this case today, what we know of them, and many other examples.

Before they just didn't have positions of power,

so the first thing that has to be done is you fire a lot of people.

I'm sorry.

You know, here's the problem: common sense,

common sense should always rule with rare exception.

You know, there are times that you're like, okay, I know that makes sense.

However,

this time, cut the white wire.

You know what I mean?

You know, right.

No, it should be the green wire.

No, no, no.

I know, usually red and green, but this time, don't cut the green wire.

But the problem is, everything

is so over

ivy leagued

that

the average person goes, Well, I don't know the answer.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, not the best.

Right.

You know, like, what?

Well, we saw this with the Claudine Gay situation this week, right?

Like, everybody knows when you steal other people's work,

you're going to get fired as an academic.

And yet, every institution went to bat for this woman to explain why what she, how what she did was not actually bad, and it was actually racism and you guys don't understand the the systemic racism that pushed her to have to do this and right why we should ignore and it's like and everyone's just like all right i just don't even want to get involved in that so there's no you know the deal is and and they'll and most people will back away from it because they'll feel stupid they'll be like i i i i don't know i mean who am i to argue against right a lot of people harvard they'll do it fewer and fewer though i i think that oh yeah i think that's that's going because we used to have you know there's there's balance in all things.

Balance in all things.

There's supposed to be push and pull.

If you don't have that, there is no growth.

So what happened is we had common sense, and then common sense was looked down upon from an ivy leg on,

isn't that cute?

You've got common sense.

Well, I have uncommon knowledge.

And everybody was like, well, he must know something that I don't know.

No, really,

really, the only thing that

you may know

that he doesn't know is humility.

And the one thing that he may know that you don't know is

arrogance.

I know.

I mean, my people, you know, you need to be taken care of.

Are you concerned that the balance is not something we're finding right now?

No, because I think it's coming.

Is it coming?

Is it closer to something you've talked about for a long time of more of a pendulum effect?

Because I am worried that it does seem at times that

we're getting to a place where we're completely ignoring experts.

I don't think that's the answer either, right?

No, it's not.

It's not like

experts are held by other experts, you know, until the medical community says, you know what, enough is enough.

This COVID thing, it was good here, here, and here.

It was really bad here, here, and here.

And we got to stop, you know, just saying that, oh, no, now science knows because that's happened throughout all of mankind.

And then science learns.

And they're like, oh, well, now we know.

Soon as it's cleaned out by its own people, you know, God will clean out his own house first.

That's in Isaiah.

I will clean out mine own house first.

And he will.

And that's what needs to happen in all of the institutions, in media.

It's got to be cleaned up.

Now, it's going to probably take outsiders to do it or a new generation, but look, it's already happening.

It's already happening.

It's just that there's so much money involved at the establishment level, and they're just just holding on by their fingernails.

And they'll, I mean, they'll pull all of us down to stop from drowning themselves.

Do you think, are you optimistic about the path here?

Are you optimistic that the pushback that has come from, I think, common sense,

I would argue, you know, that usually equals a lot of conservative type values.

But like, there has been a pushback in the media.

There has been a pushback in, you know, when it comes to our institutions from

more constitutional common sense type thinking.

Will that result in something that is positive at the end?

Are you comfortable

at the wire?

We are coming around the fourth turn

and

we're all dead even as we're coming towards the wire.

Who's going to win?

And it will be won by a nose.

And I think it's going to happen this year.

But what is encouraging is we're seeing things that we haven't seen before.

I think we are at peak wokeness.

You know, I've been talking about that pendulum theory that Stu has been saying.

I've been saying for a while, 2020, what did I say?

2024, 2025

is where we hit the peak and then it starts going the opposite way.

I've said that for forever.

Now, this means it's going to take just as long as it did to get here,

but we will,

the dog returns to its vomit.

We will go back to being a very selfish, me, me, me, you know, forget the collective culture.

It's going to take us 40 years, but we will get right back to where we were.

The key is don't destroy yourself at any of the peaks because it's the middle where we really flourish.

It's the balance of, no, the individual is important,

but so is the collective.

We have to balance that.

Right now, we're just not balancing.

The individual doesn't matter anymore.

Doesn't matter.

But I see this coming back from really important people.

I think Elon Musk has been a turning point in that.

I mean, you look at what Bill Ackman said this week or Mark Cuban.

What a difference.

What a difference.

The Mark Cuban thing was, we should go through that at the same time.

Oh, no.

Bizarre.

No.

I don't even seem like he doesn't even know what the words mean.

He doesn't.

He doesn't.

It's weird.

Again, it is the arrogance of people thinking they know.

That's what Bill Ekman said.

He said, I went to talk to the students and I realized that what I thought they were saying

is not what they're saying.

I didn't understand it.

Mark Cuban just hasn't gone through that, but he will because it's happening.

It is happening.

But

keep running flat out because it's going to be won by a nose.

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I have to tell you,

eventually I will retire from the radio program.

I'll never stop working, but I will stop doing this

approach to it because

the next phase has to happen.

You're optimistic that things are, you're starting to see light, right?

It is starting to swing back.

Some movement, yeah.

Yeah.

The problem is we'll never go the right way unless we know true history.

So it is so important to teach history.

That's probably what I'll do in my twilight years, is just teach history and promote true history from historians and the actual,

you know, the actual facts of the case.

You can add your opinion on it, but let's start with what actually happened at the time.

and why it happened at the time, according to the people who were living at the time.

Um, but that's one, that's one thing that we have to do.

There's so many people right now fighting for the Constitution.

Okay,

all right.

Have you noticed a surge of books about the Constitution?

A surge of pocket constitutions, a surge of people calling up and saying, you know, the Constitution.

I just, you know, I haven't read it before.

I don't know anyone who is doing that.

Do you?

No, I mean, in mass.

Yeah, right.

It doesn't seem like, you know, I think you could have made that argument in the Tea Party era that was going on.

Yes.

You know, but I don't know.

But not so much now.

And if we don't reconnect with our founding documents, then what is it we're going to restore when the insanity stops?

What is our pendulum?

What is the cornerstone of what we're doing?

Because a pendulum just keeps moving back and forth.

You need your house built on rock, and our rock is our founding documents.

If we don't know those, I mean, what are you fighting for, really?

Honestly.

Well, I survived for where America used to be, what it used to be like.

Ral Rig, Ralph Rig, Ralph Rigg.

What was that?

It seems like the main thing people are fighting for right now is not this.

Yes, not this.

We don't want this.

I don't know what this is.

We don't want this.

And that is.

And there is a growing number of people, I think, on the right.

We've heard it from the left for decades.

Growing number of people on the right who are saying, this doesn't work.

We need to try something new.

That's what the left has been sowing in the right for all of these decades.

And there can be positives to that, right?

If the new thing is going to our constitutional principles and actually using them, I mean, that could be great.

But when it's just, it's like we always say with global warming, we've got to do something.

Well, what?

You know, like if the thing you're doing is much worse for humanity, then you shouldn't do something.

So you better figure out what the thing is to do.

And I think there's a lot of thought on like, you know, the energy right now is just like, hey, not this, whatever this is, we've got to stop it.

Stop it.

And you got to do that first, right?

I mean, everyone talks about that.

Like, you know, if your

bathroom tub is leaking, you got to to stop, turn off the water first.

I got it.

At the same time, however,

you better have an equal amount of effort being put into,

but what?

That was the problem with the left.

And I fear too many on the right are falling into this trap without even realizing it.

The left, A, they can't.

They can't actually have a functioning government because their ideas are so bad and have been tested over and over and over again and always fail.

But they're used to blowing things up.

They're better at destroying than they are building.

Well,

we cannot just be focused on destroying what they are trying to build.

What are we going to build?

Give America an option.

Okay, not that,

but what?

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So let's look at that foundation.

What are we building?

If we don't just want to stop whatever is happening, but we want to have a solution, what is it we're building?

There are people talking about solutions.

Unfortunately, some of them

are

very misguided.

Christian nationalism is one of them.

And I know a lot of people that say, I'm a Christian.

I'm not ashamed of it.

I love my country.

I'm not ashamed of it.

That's not Christian nationalism.

That's good.

You can do that.

That's good.

What Christian nationalism is, is that the church plays a defining

in the government.

Now, the church should play, I think, a defining role in our lives.

It should play a defining role in our country, but not in our government.

And Charlie Kirk just brought this up to me and he said, well, Glenn, how are you going to, the people are too far gone?

You got to force this first.

No,

no.

You know, I think they were pretty far gone they were nailing Christ to a tree, and he didn't force everybody.

We're at this place right now where

people are confused by terms,

and this is what Marxists do,

and this is what big government fascists do.

You have to be very, very careful.

I just talked to Bishop Strickland.

He's the guy who was just fired by the Pope.

He is the fourth bishop of Tyler, Texas.

He was, he's, you've, I know you've read about him.

You may not remember, but you've read about him.

And he's stood up and said, hey, no, we have to be true to our religious theological principles.

And so the Pope.

Pope fired him.

I have a podcast coming out today,

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It's worth a listen.

I talked to him a little bit about Christian nationalism.

Listen to this.

Christian nationalism.

What's your understanding of Christian nationalism?

Honestly, Glenn, I don't have a lot of understanding of that, but

I don't.

Christian and nationalism, I'm not sure how that fits together.

I'm not.

I don't understand it.

But

to me, you know, Jesus Christ, I mean, that's one of the blessings in, you know, the goodness that I see in the Catholic Church.

Catholic means universal.

It's not a nation of this world.

It's not a nation or a denomination.

It's a way of living the truth that the Son of God has revealed to us.

And so

just hearing that, it sounds like Christian nationalism, there's a lot that I would reject in that concept.

I mean, I don't know what the concept is, but it doesn't sound right.

So his gut

is on target.

I was watching a video today of

this

looting of this street in Compton.

I think it was last night.

A bunch of teens get together.

take a van and back it up through the wall of this bakery, and then they just swarm it and take everything.

And this is a new thing.

They're swarming these streets and just looting the streets.

And I thought to myself, wow, could we just stop and talk here?

I know it's awfully fun to loot and to give it to the man, but what do you think your neighborhood and your town street is going to be like?

Because if you do this, they're not going to be able to get insurance.

Nobody's going to want to have their bakery or anything else there.

So what happens when everybody moves out that is providing a good or service for you because they can't afford all of the looting and stealing and the crime?

You're going to go to somebody else's street and start to lose that, loot that?

The answer is yes.

But this burns itself out at some point because it cannot sustain.

And we're already seeing this

in

sections of our country where people are like,

I'm not moving there.

I can't do that.

I can't afford it.

There's no police, et cetera, et cetera.

Christian nationalism in the worst form of it would say that the church needs to

couple with the government.

No, no, no, it doesn't.

Jesus didn't couple with the government, render under Caesar that which is Caesar's.

He's talking about an entirely different kingdom.

Here's the problem:

it's our

citizenship.

What does it really mean to be a citizen of the United States of America?

What does it mean?

What is it you have to do?

Have to do?

There's not a lot you have to do.

Obey the laws, but that's just in every country.

Right?

What is it you have to do as an American?

What is it that we require people to do if they're coming in?

We require them to answer a few questions that most Americans can't do.

So you don't have to unless you're going to become a new

American and you're coming in the front door.

We require you to learn a little bit, but we don't require you to profess that that's absolutely true.

Did you read the book?

Yep.

All right, let me give you a test.

Oh, you got them all right.

Raise your hand.

Is this your home country?

Yes.

Okay, go live your life.

Do it.

That's it.

Our first citizenship to the kingdom of God

is not like that.

Narrow is the way.

It is

very tight.

God, in his citizenship, he requires you to live a certain way.

When you get your citizenship, you know, in the kingdom of heaven, it's not like, okay,

you read the Bible.

Yes.

All right.

Moses had

how many things that became the Mosaic law?

Hint,

it's not 200.

It's not eight.

Could it be 10?

There's no test like that.

Yeah, I read the book.

I got it.

I got it.

It's, are you living it?

And because church,

and I shouldn't say church, because living a good,

healthy, Judeo-Christian life,

or anything that is in service of the God Almighty,

that teaches you that the best way to serve God is to serve your fellow man.

Love thy neighbor.

Love those who hate you.

Don't steal.

Don't covet.

All of those things that we're doing in spades every single day.

So being a good Christian makes you a good citizen of any country.

But we have dismissed the Christians.

And many of the Christians, quite honestly, are bad Christians.

I mean, I can't even claim to be a good Christian.

I try, but I don't know.

I mean, the standard is going to be pretty high.

And I don't think I'm living at that high of a level, but I'm trying.

But there are people who are professing it and who don't try at all.

Or they've so misread it that I know the answer.

And you become this, I don't know, this Ivy League kind of attitude where you're telling everybody else how to live your life.

No, you just live your life, live an example,

and love the people.

You know, it's amazing how we are shunning people,

even in our own families that disagree with us.

We're shunning people who are living in a way that we just, we can't tolerate.

You know who really can't tolerate that

jesus

yet strangely

he wasn't hanging out at the cocktail parties of all the really great

people

he was hanging out in the slums with the prostitutes and the tax collectors and all of the sinners and he wasn't like uh listen here you people really

I despise you.

So let me tell you exactly how to live.

What he did is he befriended and he taught.

I find it remarkable that Jesus could live amongst the people

that were rejected

and especially on the left, but also on the right.

We don't want anything to do with those people.

How are you ever going to heal anything?

And by the way, it was his example, not the words.

In fact, all the people that he was usually railing against, you know, the people in the synagogues and the churches, the Pharisees, because they were saying the words, they knew the words, but they weren't living it.

They weren't living the spirit.

They were living the letter of the law.

That's totally different.

That's like you coming here.

and living the letter of the law, which is totally legal to do, but not not good for America.

You live the spirit of the law.

And that's what we're missing.

And that's how you can love your country and love Christianity and know

that most of the things in our Constitution, our Declaration, and our Bill of Rights come directly from the Bible.

We don't need a priest to administer that.

We need to be better people

so we can administer love and justice, God's justice, and do the best we can in earthly justice.

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Anything planned this weekend for you, Stu?

It's exciting.

It's a great question.

And one that does not cross my mind until this show ends on Friday every week.

I know.

I never know what's coming up.

It's because you're never sure you're going to survive the show.

You know, that's a good point.

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Right.

So.

But it's true.

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It was done by Industrial Light and Magic, and it is phenomenal.

It is like the best way to ever see anybody.

It's so weird, too, that they would pick ABBA as the band to demonstrate this technology.

I know.

So, well, a lot of people, they broke up early, and a lot of people said, oh, I really wanted to see ABBA.

I think that was their thinking.

And I've said, you know, groups that are alive today should be doing this.

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If it's anything like, it's not the same people, so I don't know, but if it is anything like the ABBA experience, it will, you'll swear.

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don't recognize that kind of stuff,

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Really?

Yeah.

Now,

obviously, Elvis did not record himself with this technology many years ago.

That's why I kind of wonder.

I wonder how they're going to do it.

But they took all of us.

They did a job, right?

Oh, no, they did.

They spent a year in Industrial Light and Magic.

They take the old and then they recorded them with like 120 cameras.

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today,

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Everything.

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They say Elvis is happening and then Kiss

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Hello, America.

A few weeks ago, I said on the air, flippantly, you know what?

I don't think the Republicans are doing a damn thing about making sure that

only the people that are registered to vote legally are voting.

Oh my, a friend of mine wrote and said,

oh, I have issue with you, brother.

And so I promised, I said,

right after the holidays, we'll have you on.

on.

Because she's going to share some things with us that you've probably not heard.

And it will give you an awful lot of hope.

There's a lot of people really working hard to make sure that this election is buttoned up and trustworthy.

We're going to talk to her in 60 seconds.

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We have to say a very humble hello to Cleta Mitchell.

She's an election attorney.

She is a Conservative Partnership Institute senior legal fellow and was somebody who was I caused a lot of angst before the holidays.

Cleta, how are you?

I'm fine, Gwen.

Good.

I'm fine.

But let me correct one thing that to be sure.

What I am going to talk about, this is not something the Republican Party is doing.

So you were right about that.

This is something grassroots patriots and people, volunteers, are doing.

It's not the party.

Right.

And that was my point.

But then, you know, when you reached out to me, I felt bad because there's a lot of people that are really sacrificing a lot of time and you're making great progress

on a few things.

And I want to talk to you about them.

Okay, great.

So tell me overall what's happening.

Where are we really hitting?

Where have we gained ground on just cleaning up the rolls and making sure that it's going to be a tight election?

Well, look, I mean, one thing, let me just set the stage for you just a bit.

The left has been about the business of wrecking our election system for 30 years.

And in particular,

the National Voter Registration Act was Bill Clinton's very first

piece of legislation when he was elected president.

And it was the first piece passed back in 1993, the National Voter Registration Act, motor voter.

We all remember now we have to, when you register, when you go get a driver's license,

they register you to vote.

That has created all kinds of havoc on the voter rolls.

And the other part of that federal law is it puts shackles on local jurisdictions, election offices, as well as the states, in terms of allowing them to remove people who've moved away, et cetera, et cetera.

Blackout periods and all kinds of waiting periods and a cumbersome process.

So let's start with the fact that the Democrats and of course Republicans have in Congress basically been asleep at the wheel on these issues for many decades.

Fast forward to 2020.

The day after that election, citizens all over this country woke up and said, wait a minute, what has happened to our election system?

And so that's when I joined the National, the Conservative Partnership Institute as a senior legal fellow focused solely on building trying to build a permanent infrastructure of citizens volunteers across the country to be become involved in their local election offices same way parents have realized they've got to be involved in their school boards and know what's going on so we started a year ago

I wrote a guidebook it's called the citizens guide to building an election integrity infrastructure and people can go to our website and download it it's free it's www.whosecounting.us and we have videos training videos how people can get involved one of the tracks is cleaning voter rolls and we started a year ago a national working group on cleaning voter rolls and we have literally there are hundreds actually thousands of citizens across the country working in their local election offices identifying duplicates, dead people, people who have moved.

And I mean,

to me, it's pretty remarkable what they are doing.

And we also have been working to try to get Congress to change the federal law, to get the federal government out of the

business of dictating to states, telling them when they can and cannot clean their voter rolls.

So that's a little bit of the background.

So wait, wait, wait, wait.

Tell me this is going on in how many states and districts, because

this is what I fear,

is that we are cleaning things up, and this is really good in states like Texas, et cetera, et cetera, Florida, but the problem states like Georgia or

Michigan, Wisconsin, maybe there's not anything being done there.

Is that accurate or not?

Well, no, it's not accurate.

We're trying.

We're trying hard.

And in fact, Georgia, let me just talk about Georgia for a moment because that's one of the places where the most work is going on.

And of course, where we're having to fight with Mark Elias, who's threatened all of the county election offices in Georgia with litigation if

they listen to these citizen challenges.

But let me just give you a couple of updates about Georgia.

We have one thing that's really amazing is

a retired physician, Dr.

Rick Richards, has created a software that he is making available to volunteers all over the country that will allow them to run their voter rolls against other databases for free.

He's making it available for free to them.

And so they can run it against the national change of address, who's moved.

They can run it to determine who are duplicates.

And so, and he's actually gotten this software adopted by a county in Georgia that said, well, this is what we need because our job under the law is to clean the voter rolls.

Of course, let me just pause just a moment.

When that happened, the left has come after him, after me, because I introduced him to the National Working Group on Voter Rolls that the Election Integrity Network

hosts.

And they've done CBS, ABC, they've all done hit pieces, the Atlanta Journal Constitution,

saying that this is terrible.

We're trying to suppress the vote by cleaning the voter rolls.

Just so you know,

we always have to deal with that.

But we're undeterred.

You know, I'm used to that.

He's used to that.

And so nonetheless, we're moving forward.

There's a gentleman in Fulton County, Georgia, who has personally

been through the voter rolls and has filed over 11,000 challenges to duplicates and bad registrations in Fulton County.

And these counties in Georgia are required by state law to hear citizen challenges and act upon those within 30 days.

And they've been threatened, the counties have been threatened by Mark Elias, literally, who sent a letter threatening them to all the counties.

But there was just a decision earlier this week in which that challenge, the statute that

under state law that allows citizens to come in and challenge a bad registration was upheld by a court.

So I think that that's going to open the way to move forward with these challenges.

But we have

in some states, so Fulton County has stopped hearing challenges.

That doesn't mean the people are not out there identifying the problems.

We're probably now just going to have to start filing our own lawsuits to force them to actually follow state law.

In other states, like take a blue state like New Mexico, I know we don't think of that as a swing state any longer, but those volunteers have been able under the most difficult circumstances to get over 30,000 bad registrations removed from the voter rolls there.

Cleta,

is there any way you can guess or know

if any of those had been used fraudulently in the past?

Well,

we do know, yes, we do know

in the states where the cast vote records are public records, we can see, we do know that there are registrants who we now see are deceased who've cast ballots.

But, you know, one of the things that is problematic is getting these election officials anywhere to be willing.

It's hard to describe the intimidation that has gone on by the left and the infiltration by the left in the election system of our country.

I mean, the Capital Research Center estimates that leftist billionaires have invested,

including big left-wing foundations, have invested between $11 and $14 billion in the last decade building this gigantic leftist infrastructure into every aspect of our voting and our election process.

So

it's very difficult to get these election officials to willingly want to turn somebody over for prosecution.

So what we focused on with the voter roles

is

really training people to make, to sit down and make friends in advance, if they possibly can, with the local election officials to say, we're not here to attack you.

We're not here to berate you.

We have volunteers who are willing to help you do your job because they always say they're overworked, et cetera.

And so by doing that, we have seen these situations in county after county.

New Jersey, there's a group of volunteers.

In one county, they were able to remove over 7,000 bad registrations this past year.

People say, well, what difference does it make?

Well, it makes a difference because when you have bad dirt, you had dirty voter rolls, you have people registered multiple times, what the left has been intent upon doing is getting legislatures and election officials, sometimes without legislative authority, as happened in Georgia in 2020, to send a

ballot, either an absentee ballot or an absentee ballot application to everybody on the voter rolls.

Well, if you've got somebody registered seven times, they're going to get seven ballots.

And that's a big issue that we're fighting right now in Nevada and Clark County.

And that group of people out there have made friends and built relationships and credibility with the election office.

And they are literally going through the roles and providing evidence.

And when they provide the evidence, that can be confirmed by the registrar, they are moving those people from active to inactive.

May not sound like a big deal, they don't get an automatic ballot.

In Nevada, they get an automatic, everybody on the active list gets an automatic ballot.

That's crazy.

So we've got all these volunteers who are working against the clock to move as many of those bad registrations off the active list so they don't get

live ballots, so we don't have these live ballots floating around everywhere in Clark County.

All right, hang on just a second, Cleta.

We're talking to Cleta Mitchell.

She's an election attorney on what is being done at the state level.

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So, Cleta, tell me about Eagle Eye and what that is.

Well, that's the software that I mentioned earlier that was developed by Dr.

Rick Richards and his son, John Richards.

John is in the business.

Dr.

Richards is a retired physician, but he has ⁇ this has been something he's been doing for many years, is developing different kinds of software.

And so he got interested as a volunteer in developing a software that could assist

in the comparison, to automate comparison of the voter rolls, the voter lists, against other databases.

And that's what he is making available to these groups across the country, these citizen groups.

It's being considered in 23 states.

I think Texas is using it now, right?

Oh, there are lots of states that are using it.

And in terms of they're going to, they're in the process of developing a different software that can be used by official offices, by by the state or by local jurisdiction.

But I will tell you that there has been a concerted effort on the left to

try to stop Eagle Eye in its tracks, to attack Dr.

Richards, to attack me.

I'm kind of a dog whistle for the left, which is, you know, because they say my name and because I did volunteer legal work for President Trump post-election 2020,

and I haven't let them scare me away

to keep on working in these arenas.

But

we've had all these bad, I consider them positive press announcements, but they're intended to basically get jurisdictions to not accept any data presented that's used ELI.

But I don't think they're having an effect that, you know, we're Dr.

Rick is still working with all these states and local volunteers and making big progress and helping people.

It's automating it, but it still takes the time of volunteers.

We need more volunteers.

So, Cleta, let me ask you,

where are the billionaires and the Republican Party on this?

Why do we constantly struggle with that on our side?

Oh, well, the Republican Party is just not interested in this area.

Why?

Well, because

you want to know why I really think?

Because the consultants, the political consultants can't see a way to make money on it.

And so they call the shots, and that's basically why you don't have the party involved in anything like this.

Now, I will say this,

the Election Integrity Task Force that Ronna McDaniel appointed after the November 2020 election, They did a comprehensive review, and this was an area that they said our party should be involved in this.

but they're not doing this

no but they're not they're not and and and so our efforts are nonpartisan because right you know do I think that most of the people involved in this are conservatives yes but and they probably vote Republican but we are not doing this to help or hurt a candidate the I will tell you these volunteers it makes me cry frankly to talk about I sent out a I see the work that they're doing I sent out an email frankly after your guys said that, you know, ask if I would do the show today.

And I said, hey, can you give me some facts and stats that I can share with Glenn?

And I've just been overwhelmed with these emails and things that people have said that they're doing.

It's just phenomenal.

Why don't you strip them so the names aren't there so we don't cause trouble for people?

Okay, good.

Yeah, and I've got more to send to them because I got more last night.

Good.

So I did send that to your guys.

We'll post it at GlennBeck.com.

Cleta, if you need volunteers,

they just go to whoscounting.us.

They go to who'scounting.us and sign up.

It may say be a poll observer or whatever.

But

if you say you want to work on voter rolls or we have other areas, we do have, we've got to protect vulnerable voters in nursing homes and group homes from the attacks by the left.

And we train people how to do that we train people how to start a local task force to oversee their local election office all voting takes place locally unless it's overseas voting which is a whole different topic but but we have to have our people think how much of a difference those few the minority of parents who got involved and shared and told here's what's going on blew the whistle on what was going on in these government schools and realizing parents are realizing if you're if my child is going to be in a government school, I need to be at the school board meetings, I need to know what's going on.

It is the same thing with elections, and these volunteers all over the country who are working so hard on cleaning voter rolls

they make me cry.

Cleta, thank you again.

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Nobody wanting to stop it.

You can apply it to the entire border situation, right?

Oh, yeah.

And it doesn't seem like anyone really cares, I guess,

particularly in the administration.

You know, we had these new numbers that came out.

It was, what, 302,000 that crossed in one month, the highest in history.

And I was going through the numbers to look back at where we've been.

And really, since Joe Biden took office, we've been between 150 and 250,000 illegal immigrants every single month.

And,

you know, you think, okay, well, 300,000 is up, but, you know, it's not that far up.

You can lose a perspective quickly because that's 220%.

Maybe you could, you know, the average is probably honestly about almost 50%.

But still, you could say, all right, well, it's up, but how, it's not up that much.

Is it really that bad?

Well, go back in history a little bit.

Back to 2000, just 2014.

You go back to the Obama administration.

You got all the Trump years in there.

And you look at the chart and you see almost all the years are,

you know, correlated.

They're all very closely kind of packed together in one area, except for one year, 2019, where you do see a real peak, an out-of-the-ordinary sort of outlier peak,

where it goes way up above all the other years.

And what was that number?

Way up above all the other.

It's important to note, too.

It was a peak.

It came up and it came down, right?

Like almost immediately in 2019.

That peak in 2019 was 150,000.

So

it was a little bit less than that.

Now, almost the entire Biden administration has been spent between $150,000 per month and $250,000 per month.

The peak of any year from 2014 to 2019 was a couple of months.

And you remember that time.

It was the caravans, and we were talking about it quite a bit.

But it did go up there.

It peaked, and then it dropped down almost immediately.

If you look at all of the other years.

We said at the time, this is trial run.

Remember?

This is trial run.

Look at what's happening.

This is is an invasion, and if it works,

it's going to be going on forever.

And it turns out, yeah, that's exactly, because I just went back and looked at one of the monologues from 2018 on that very subject.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

The average for all of the other years between 2014 and 2019

was

about 40,000.

Now, occasionally it would bump up to 50 or 60, but I mean, about 40,000, there are months that are almost, you know, close to 10,000, right?

So almost, you know, in, I mean, that still seems like a lot to me.

It seems like a lot to just allow 10,000 people into your country that are illegal immigrants, but still that number is nothing compared to what we're doing now.

And we're over 300,000.

This is like, you know, there's a big story in the New York Times today that said.

Biden is receiving pressure about on the border and not just from Republicans.

Oh, yeah.

We're now to the point where Democrats are like, okay, like, we agree with you.

We should let everybody in, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But, like, come on, this is killing us.

And of course, it's misreported in the New York Times that they say, I believe the quote was, most of the illegal immigrants have been sent by Greg Abbott.

This is not true at all.

I mean, it's a small percentage overall

of the illegal immigrants that have gone to cities like New York.

You have 5 million people coming across the border.

You think the busload of 60 at a time

is making a dent?

I think the number is something like 25,000 that have been sent from Texas.

I mean, we have 300,000 in a month that are crossing the border.

Now, they don't all go to New York City.

A lot of them do go to these big cities, though, and a lot of them are put there by the administration, who has been sending them there as well.

It's not just been a conservative talking point.

It's been something that's happened to communities all across the country.

Of course, the border states feel this the worst, and that's why Abbott started doing this.

Let me give you a headline.

What pops out at you?

Denver to spend $180 million on migrants in 2024.

Mayer calls it unsustainable.

What pops out to you?

$180 million in 2024.

Mayer calls it unsustainable.

I mean, a lot pops out there.

$180 million, a lot.

$180 million

of Denver.

This guy got some

conservative community complaining about illegal immigration.

Okay.

It's $180 million for the next year for Denver.

Hey, Denver, what do you think it's like for Houston, for Dallas, for San Antonio, for Austin?

What do you think it is?

For Phoenix, for Tucson?

What are you crazy?

Imagine what it is.

Imagine what it is.

We were spending, I think, an Eagle Pass.

It was

$20,000 a day

just in medical care.

People come up and they needed emergency services.

So it was like $20,000 a day.

It was some crazy amount of money for this little teeny town.

I mean,

it doesn't work.

Then you have New Jersey.

New Jersey is suing.

Isn't it New Jersey that's suing?

New York.

New York is suing.

Well, they're going to have to sue New Jersey too because New Jersey is

taking them off the buses that have been sent to New Jersey.

By the way, the federal government is flying planes in the middle of the night into states.

New Jersey is now putting them on trains.

They're going to get off a bus and they're like, hey, here's a ticket to the train.

See you in New York City.

Yeah, because New York basically came up with a rule trying to ban these buses from coming in.

And so they've been dropping them off at the train stations right outside the border in Jersey City and all these other places.

And they just take the train right across the border into New York.

Where, again, I mean, so much of this problem comes from

the New York rules, which state a guaranteed right to shelter.

So anyone who comes in, anyone of any, whether legal or not, if they're in New York City, they must give them shelter.

This is why they have over 200 hotels now filled with illegal immigrants in New York City.

Can you imagine this?

How do these hotels ever go back?

How do they ever go back?

They'll become flophouses just because you're, I mean, you're pulling them out of the market, you know, for tourists and everything else.

You're, you're, you're, I'm guessing that it's, you know, it's not necessarily the tidiest group of people.

You're, you're only getting the bottom of the scale

of tenants, if you will,

that aren't paying, right?

They don't have an ownership interest and case.

They don't have

right.

What are you going to do?

Kick me out?

I mean,

right to shelter.

What is going to happen to these places?

I mean, and you know, there was a story, this is from a couple of months back, but it was a pretty nice hotel, and they had a nice restaurant inside of it, a restaurant that somehow made it through COVID.

Yes.

And finally got to reopen after the months and months and months and months

they forced them to be closed.

They finally got to reopen.

And then

all

it became a migrant hotel.

So no one's going to eat at the fancy restaurant at the migrant hotel.

They're not coming down for nice steak dinners.

So they just had to close.

Just had to close.

Close up shop.

And give it, they, of course, gave a nice big statement about how wonderful legal immigrants are on the way out.

But that was basically what happened.

Let me ask you this.

Imagine you're somebody who came here legally, or you came here even illegally, but you are working.

You really are trying to better yourself, okay?

And you're working at a New York hotel, and you work your ass off.

I don't know if you've, I mean, when you go and stay at a hotel, they're usually non-citizens or new citizens, and they work hard.

And

I can't imagine the crap they take from

rich people.

But now imagine you've been working that job.

You're trying to keep your kids in school.

You're paying taxes.

And you're now cleaning the rooms of the illegals.

Can you imagine that?

What a slap in the face.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

And, you know, look, 60 Republicans went down to the border.

There's a great video that kind of went viral.

And you've seen the video a million times of, you know, you're looking at the border, you're seeing a bunch of illegal immigrants cross the border, walking across with no, no sense of urgency, right?

There's not like, oh my gosh, we got to get across.

We're in danger.

We're going to get caught.

It's just walking across because that's what they do now.

And then the camera slowly zooms in.

And in the background of the shot, you see the 60 Republicans and them giving their speeches right there.

They're crossing the border right in front of the Republicans who are there trying to shore up the border.

I mean, there is no

shame, right?

And so, and what's interesting about the 60 Republicans going down there is it is a pretty clear signal.

This is not just about trying to stop what's going on at the border, which, of course, I mean, I do think Republicans do care about this.

Certainly their voters do.

But this is a clear signal as to the approach they're going to try when it comes to this election.

They're going to make the border a central issue.

It should be.

Should be.

It's been ignored for years.

As I've said, you know, we just talked about this.

This is not the typical.

It's not, it's not.

This is legally out of control.

Yeah, this is an emergency, a national emergency.

By the way, you know, I've been telling you about all what the other states are doing, the cities, and how they're all collapsing.

In California,

they've decided to go the extra mile.

They're now going to provide sex change surgery and hormone therapy

and include that in the free health care coverage for illegal immigrants in California.

So, I mean, sunshine all the time, beautiful beaches.

You know, eventually those homes will probably be empty.

I mean, why would you go to New York or Denver

if you're from South America?

You would probably say, why not go to California?

And I'm going to have a sex change for free as well.

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Let me

give you a strange story here.

First of all, from Boston, we're going to go cut one.

Here's a video of a Boston Democrat

who is supposed to be taking the oath of office and is not doing it.

What?

And will support the Constitution thereof.

And will support the Constitution thereof.

So help me God.

So help me God.

I do solemnly swear.

I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully and impartially discharge

discharge and perform all the duties

incumbent on me

as a member of the Boston City Council.

If you're watching

the city council, not the lady in the white or the man in the black, but the woman in between.

Oh, you can barely see her there.

You can barely see her, and she's not saying a word.

And somebody spotted this at the thing and brought it to the council and said, she didn't take the oath of office.

So they said, you've got to come back in and take the oath of office.

She didn't.

She won't come in to take the oath of office.

Maybe you shouldn't be in office then, maybe?

That's strange.

Open contempt.

But she won't do it?

No.

Isn't that a requirement of the job?

I think so.

I mean, like, you couldn't become president of the United States without the oath of office office, could you?

Nope.

I think so.

Now, she may be all, you know, very distracted because she doesn't have her Stanley cup from Target,

you know, the red Valentine one.

And people are being trampled for those now.

Trampled for the red Stanley cup.

Yeah, that's yep.

Do you have 500,000 of these at your house?

That's what we have.

Every one of our cabinets is filled with these cups.

I don't know when they became.

I don't understand how they became this big thing.

They're nice cups.

They keep stuff really cold.

they're they're great are these this people do you remember you might be too young the green

industrial thermos you know like all the iron workers had those green and those were stand those were made by stanley oh really i don't know are they the thermos people i mean that they go basically what they make now right the just like they're kind of i mean there's a bunch of companies in that space right but but i think the thermos people are also the ones that make the tape measures and the screwdrivers and everything else okay i don't think those are the same companies.

I don't know.

I don't think the

trample.

If I had a cup that had the logo of the tool people,

oh,

I'd trample a whole store full of people.

That's true.

You know, they should start making those immediately.

Every company that has Stanley in their name should just start making the cups.

And they're not, you know, what's crazy is

they're not free.

No.

People are beating each other

and paying for it.