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And Joe Biden today.

And

why is this man our president?

Why?

It's driving me out of my mind.

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Same exact way.

I mean, I can't even stand to look at him.

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it's pat and stew for glenn today uh all day yesterday the only thing i could think of was i can't believe i share my birthday with this brain-dead buffoon of a president

how did this happen wait what what you share Pat Gray?

Yes.

I, Pat Gray, share a birthday with Joe Biden.

Yesterday was your birthday?

It was.

We did the whole show, and at no point did you mention.

That is true.

What?

That's incredible.

Seriously?

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

Happy birthday.

I had no idea.

Thank you.

It's a little late.

It is.

That's a great point.

I even did a show yesterday on Studos America, Studo's Biden's birthday.

Oh, wow.

Birthday party.

Yeah.

Because we celebrated his incredible achievements and how wonderful the president is.

Aren't they incredible?

And it was short.

Yeah.

It was a little short, but it didn't last the whole hour.

I'll tell you that.

But I had no idea it was your birthday.

Oh, my gosh.

Happy birthday.

Thank you.

I will say, and I'm just going to take a guess here.

You do not share the year.

No, I do not share the year.

Thank goodness.

Thank goodness.

About a half century in between you and him on the year.

I wish it was that long, but it's not quite.

No, no, not quite.

He was 18 when I was born.

18.

18.

Yes.

So that tells you something.

Since he turned 81 yesterday.

I mean, you could serve four terms

Yes, and still.

His president.

And then we'd start having that conversation about your age, Pat.

I'm sorry.

Oh, man.

Okay, so

they did a low-key thing because they don't want to bring attention to it.

So they kind of did all the birthday stuff out of the sight of the public because, you know, he's getting enough flack about how old he is.

And it's not.

His age, if he were 81 and he was spry and he was vigorous and he was he had mental acuity, I wouldn't care.

Would you care?

No, you wouldn't even notice.

I don't even talk about it.

Look, the left would certainly, you know, blame partisanship for this, but like, I don't get the sense that many people on the right are concerned about Trump's age, and he's 77.

Right.

If he were stumbling around as much as Joe Biden, if he looked lost on stage every single time when he was finished with a speech, I'd be worried about it.

Now, he's mixed up Biden with Obama a few few times.

Where he said, you know, the President Obama's doing this, and he meant President Biden.

That's probably just because

he knows Biden's, Obama's the one behind the scenes anyway, pulling the strings.

I don't know.

You know, I mean,

that's not that big a deal.

If, if it turned out that he was,

you know, stumbling around as much as Biden, then I'd be concerned with it.

I would too.

I'd be concerned.

And, like, I think there's a legitimate concern to

when it comes to political strategy that you're having the biggest vulnerability for Joe Biden because of the fact the media constantly will excuse all of his policy failures.

The biggest excuse that the media can't get away with

just washing away is Biden's age.

And I think there's a political argument to be made that the best way to take advantage of an 81-year-old candidate is not to run a 77-year-old candidate.

Instead, to run a 40- or 50-year-old candidate that can really show that difference and take advantage of those

problems.

I mean, you know, you go back to Reagan saying, I won't take advantage of my opponent's youth and experience.

It was a brilliant, brilliant line.

But, like, you know, there was a gap there, but it wasn't a massive gap.

The gap here either is going to be half a century almost,

you know, 30 or 40 years at least, or four years.

And

while I think the American people look at Trump and

their problems with Trump.

When you look at the average voter, they have plenty of problems with Trump.

They don't have a problem with his age or his

spryness.

Like, I mean, look, we went on, in 2016, we were in Iowa.

We covered the Iowa caucus.

And you were there, Pat.

And we went flying around and driving around Iowa for like a weekend.

Okay.

It was not, we were not in it for a long time.

And I remember after that weekend being like, how are these candidates doing this?

Yeah.

It was exhausting.

You're driving all over the place.

You never know where you're going next.

You're going in there.

You're hearing the same speech over and over again.

Sometimes it's to 10 or 20 people.

Every place you walk into has the same like eight old pastries that you always will find yourself eating anyway, even though you shouldn't.

And so you feel terrible.

This is Iowa.

It's not like you're going from Vegas to New York City.

The hotels, you're in like holiday inns that are, you know,

serviceable and fine.

But like, it's not like you're in the lap of luxury.

You're waking up, you're eating their continental breakfast with the pancake printer, which they had.

I just remember that was the best part of the trip, honestly, was the pancake printer.

But like,

you're not.

exercising, you're not doing, it's a, it's honestly a really difficult life.

The fact that Trump, and he's not really running that type of campaign right now to be sure but the fact that he's able to jump from speech to speech and rally to rally

at that time 77 it's incredible yeah I mean they've even basically announced that Biden won't even attempt it yeah he's not attempting he's not he's gonna run this thing from the White House

it's gonna be the Rose Garden campaign yep and they keep talking about that because That's what he's going to do.

Last time he ran it from his basement.

Yeah.

And this time he's going to run it from the Rose Garden.

It'll be fascinating to see if it works because at the time he did it in 2020, he had an excuse, right?

The pandemic was just kicking in.

We were very early.

Most of that campaign was run at a time where even the average American was like, okay, you know, understandable.

He's not going to be out doing rallies.

Like it wasn't, it wasn't even past the time where the general American, I'm not talking about the crazy leftists or the Gavin Newsoms of the world, but like the, and of course Newsom was out at fancy restaurants this entire time.

but most people were still in that point.

We're like, you know, I'm not like panicked about COVID on a day-to-day basis, but like, I'm not going to be taking any additional risks.

I don't want to go to big crowds.

There was a lot of that still going around at the time, especially on the left, right?

No.

He doesn't have that now.

No.

There's no reason why this guy can't be out actually campaigning and

doing the work of a normal candidate.

He just refuses to.

He refuses to debate his primary opponents.

He refuses, for whatever reason, to give Secret service protection to RFK Jr.

Which is one of the most psychotic things

I mean Do you have any idea?

Have you ever heard of American history?

Like you know the RFK does that name does those initials together sound just the FK

Kennedy.

Kennedy does that ring a bell

as far as I don't know protection and I am no fan of RFK Jr.

I do not come from the part of the right who's like oh actually he's great.

I don't think he's great.

I don't think he's a do I'm not one of them.

I'm not one of them.

But I try to tell people: please don't be taken in by this guy.

Please, by all that is holy, he's not a conservative.

He's not at all a conservative.

He's got a couple issues that he's,

you know, a couple issues you might agree with him on.

A couple issues he's come to very recently and

very suspiciously.

Right.

Do you buy him on the border?

I mean, I don't at all, but whatever.

But if you love his vaccine thing so much that you're willing to vote for him, just be prepared for an abortionist, for a guy who's going to be terrible on climate change.

I mean, worse than any normal Democrat.

Really?

Worse than any normal Democrat on climate change.

I mean, you know, look, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, they're all bad on climate change.

None of them have threatened to put Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh in prison over it.

Right.

So, and potential execution.

But anyway,

that's off the topic.

Yeah.

He has not run a campaign.

Really at all.

He's taken advantage.

And there are some of these things that are part of the game, right?

Like you take advantage of the incumbency.

It's why incumbents win a lot.

You take advantage of those perks.

You're on TV all the time.

You get these speeches.

You get to fly all over the country and you don't have to worry about paying for it.

All these things are part of the package.

It's why most of the time incumbents win.

That is different than what Joe Biden wants to do here, which is honestly hope you forget he's president.

I mean, like it seems to be his argument.

What if everyone forgets the job I did?

Like maybe they'll elect me if they don't remember I did these things to them.

Yeah.

And that seems to be his argument.

And they're going to roll that out there and hope it works.

Well, and his other thing is lie.

Because

that's what they do.

They just continually lie about the job he's done.

This figure they continually use, 13 or 14 million jobs.

Oh, my God.

We'll get to that in a few minutes.

It's outrageous.

Outrageous.

And again, it's driving me out of my mind.

But yesterday was the Thanksgiving turkey pardon thing.

Oh, God.

And for some reason, he started talking about Britney Spears or Taylor Swift, or he got the two confused.

Listen to this.

Here's what he had to say.

Now, just to get here, Liberty and Bell had to beat some tough odds, the competition.

What?

They had to work hard to show patience and be willing to travel over a thousand miles.

You could say even this harder than getting a ticket to the Renaissance tour or

Rip Brittany's tour.

She's down in, it's kind of warm in Brazil right now.

What?

What?

What?

I love the expression on your face.

What in the hell are you talking about?

Is that amazing?

I hadn't heard the clip yet.

Yeah, it's great.

I'll tell you how I became aware of this.

And I just had a moment of just the same thing, moment you had this morning, Pat.

I was walking through, you know, like some place the other day.

They had the news on just random TVs as you're walking by.

And on the TV were those two dunces from TMZ

just sitting there talking and on the bottom of the screen it just says Biden confuses Britney for Taylor Swift.

And it's just like, what world do we live in?

I know.

We live in a world where our president of the United States is, first of all, talking about Britney Spears or Taylor Swift.

Can't tell the difference between the two of them.

And then we have analysis by these dopes on TMZ about it.

This is the timeline we are in as a nation.

The only place you could find better analysis than that is on ESPN.

Yeah.

Wouldn't that be great?

Yeah, let's hear the sports guys talk about it because they'll clear it up for us.

At least the TMZ people know the difference between Taylor Swift and Britney Spears.

Yes.

And like the fact that

the guys on TMZ are going to be like, you know what?

Gosh, Biden kind of is an idiot, isn't he?

Like he really is a moron.

These guys could step into office today and have a more coherent policy package than this president.

for sure that is saying something that is it's a little disappointing uh yeah

so uh his advisors are arguing that there's a double standard between you know biden's age and trump's age because there's only four years difference well it's about 40 years difference acuity-wise if you're talking about cognizance yes trump is way younger than than joe biden

you know there's far more far the reason we're not and we mentioned this already but just to put a finer point on it, there is far more evidence of Biden's deterioration at his age than there is of Trump.

I mean, Trump has

misnamed the president a few times.

Big deal.

He has not stumbled around like he's got dementia.

No.

Joe Biden has and does

every single day.

And he makes it pretty clear every single day that he is compromised.

He is mentally compromised.

First of all, he shouldn't be in the presidency anyway, under any circumstances, at any time during his political career.

Wait, let me make that.

Me more clear.

I don't understand.

I understand your stance on this.

Never, ever.

I don't care if he was 12.

He should, well, 12, he couldn't be.

If he was 35, he shouldn't be in the presidency.

There's never a time he was

never good enough at this.

No.

As evidenced by the fact that he lost over and over and over again.

He kept running for president and losing.

In 1988, 1988,

there's a reason we didn't elect him there.

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The other thing with Biden,

and he did it again yesterday, are these weird, repeated, discredited stories that he tells all the time.

That's one of the strangest.

Isn't that bizarre?

And it's not even like he's getting help from the left-wing media.

They have exposed that these are lies.

They've actually done a good job on this mode for the most part.

They've called him out.

They've asked him over and over again, asked his people, why aren't you correcting the stories?

Right.

And they just walk right through it.

The one he told yesterday, are you familiar with the Navy story?

He was going to go to the Naval Academy to play football.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, he was.

I don't think I.

He's a wonderful football player, just an all-star, all-American football player.

This was the story that he told, again, this is, I don't know, we've probably logged about 10 times the way he's told this story on Pack Ray Unleashed.

By the way,

I'm all Navy, but I was appointed to the Navy.

I was going to go play at the Naval Academy until I found out the other guys in the backfield were a guy named Roger Stauback and Joe Polino.

So I decided to go to Delaware.

But our son, so I always used to roost for Navy.

Okay, so he's going to go to Navy, despite the fact he didn't have a senatorial appointment to Navy, which you have to have.

He wasn't recruited to Navy.

There's no evidence that Navy was ever even knew the name Joe Biden when he was in college.

They probably know it now as Commander-in-Chief, but they likely didn't know it then.

And

he didn't play quarterback or running back.

I think he was a wide receiver in high school.

So I don't know.

That's hard to believe.

I know.

It's hard to believe he played football at all.

I would guess that was a running offense.

That would be my guess on that one.

But

why would Roger Staubach

preclude you from going to Navy when he's the quarterback?

And we seem like, I don't know, you'd want a quarterback like that to throw you the ball.

As a wide receiver, yeah, you think one of the best and greatest quarterbacks of all time would be the type of person you might want to throw you the ball.

It's been completely discredited.

There's no truth to it.

It's so weird.

And, you know,

the other one that pops into mind immediately is the Amtrak story.

Yes.

You have that one too?

Yes, I do.

It's this.

And then one of the senior guys on Amtrak, Angelo Negri, I got to know all the conductors really well.

They became my friends.

I mean, really, my genuine friends.

It happened to be home at Christmas and during the summer.

I doubt that.

And Ange walks up to me and goes, Joey, baby, grabs my cheek, and I thought the Secret Service was going to blow his head off.

I said, I swear to God, true story.

Oh, my gosh.

I said, no, no, he's a friend.

He said, what's up, Ange?

He said, Joey.

I read in the paper.

I read in the paper, you travel 1,000 to 1,200,000 miles on Air Force planes because they keep meticulous tabs of it.

I said, yeah.

He said, big,

I won't say the whole thing, big deal.

So you know how many miles you travel on Amtrak, Joey?

And I said, no.

He said, the boys and I figured out the retirement dinner.

He said, you traveled 2,000,000, I think it was 180, but 2,200,000 miles.

So how'd you get that in?

He said, well, 267 miles a day.

We figured you traveled 119 days a year for 36 years, and then you traveled as vice president.

He goes, so Joey, I don't want to hear this about the Air Force anymore.

Now, he swore to God

that was true.

That's an interesting part of that.

Except for the fact that not only had Ange

retired a couple decades before this conversation supposedly took place, in the early 90s, he retired, but he was also dead.

at the time the conversation supposedly took place.

So it was a very eerie conversation.

I was was going to say, you're not going to put it past Joe Biden just randomly talking to someone he thinks is alive, but is actually dead.

So I'm just saying it was a creepy conversation if he had one with Ange.

Yeah, that's very

bizarre.

And the swear to God thing is an interesting part of that.

He doesn't care that he said that at all.

He does not care, but he's a big-time Catholic.

Super, super Catholic, man.

Super Catholic.

It's almost like a superhero.

He's super Catholic.

He's got like a giant C on his chest.

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It's Patton Stew on the Glenn Beck program

complaining just a bit

about Joe Biden.

So bizarre, so

weird in virtually every way.

We're talking about some of his really weird quirks and the stories that he tells that have been proven lies.

And he just keeps telling them anyway.

It just doesn't matter to him that not even the Washington Post and New York Times are going with him on these things.

And they've challenged him on some pretty good things, like the economy, like his claim that he has saved $1.7 trillion.

They've been over that again and again.

And I think it was in the Washington Post where they said he really needs to stop saying this.

Yeah.

And he doesn't.

He hasn't.

He continues to do it.

Even Even now, after the fact that it's reversed.

Right.

So, right.

So he had that first, basically, the scam here, in case you don't know, was basically he took the worst year of the pandemic when everything was upside down.

Obviously, all the emergency spending.

All the emergency spending.

We shut down the entire economy for months at a time.

And so we had to pay trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars.

And again, when I say we had to, go back and watch my shows from March and April of that year.

And I don't actually believe we had to, but regardless, we quote unquote had to spend all this money.

And we spent all this money to keep the economy afloat in their words.

And so, and we had a lot of people not working and losing jobs.

So

the entire economy was totally out of whack.

We spent way more than we normally would, and we took in less than we normally would.

So the one-year deficit number was through the roof.

The next year, as things opened up, people go back to work, that reverses.

It had nothing to do.

Any president would have, this would have been okay, happened under, right?

Like you're reversing a shutdown of the economy.

So the numbers in year two look better than year one, right?

That's no, everyone knows that's going to happen.

At the time, we all knew it was going to happen.

It would have happened if Donald Trump, it would have been even better, I think, if Donald Trump were president, but that's a counterfactual.

We don't know.

We'll never actually know that.

So

they would say that this giant drop in deficit happened.

And everyone knew it technically is on the board, but had nothing to do with Joe Biden, with the exception of he did make it much worse.

He decided to spend even more and make the number worse.

In fact, we know this as

reality as the CBO projects these numbers into the future.

When Donald Trump was still president, they said the deficit was going to be even smaller than it was when Joe Biden actually ran the country.

The Congressional Budget Office projected numbers much better than what Joe Biden got, yet he still went out in front of the American people and said, oh, actually, I

took it down by $1.7 trillion.

No one's ever done that before.

It's incredible.

Well, I don't know.

There weren't a lot of presidents who had to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic, right?

There wasn't a lot of, there's not a lot of other examples of that stuff happening in our society.

So

he does a thousand speeches where he brags about this.

And now the next year numbers came out and he lost, it went the other way.

It was one of the worst, if you want to give you peacetime numbers in history where we weren't having a quote-unquote war on COVID.

It was one of the worst peacetime numbers in the history of the nation.

Again, a lot of that having to do with Joe Biden.

And he doesn't, he still brags about the previous year, even though he's already blown up those numbers.

Like, you could at least make the argument, okay, well, he did this and he's going to continue the progress.

No, he actually made it much, much worse.

And that's based on the Congressional Budget Office's own projections.

Yeah.

And yet he keeps doing it.

So

this calculus there politically is to say, well, what if everyone forgets COVID happened?

This will work.

Wait a minute.

This can't possibly work.

Well, what if everyone forgets COVID happened?

Then it will work.

That's how dumb they think you are.

And with their own voters, they might be right.

Oh, I think they are.

Yeah, I think they are.

With Democrats, they're not going to, they're going to think, oh, yeah, that's great.

Look at he's saving big money in these Republicans.

The evil Republicans keep accusing him of spending so much money.

It will work with them, with many Democrat voters, I think.

And he tried it again yesterday, as you mentioned, with the jobs.

Yeah.

Which is infuriating.

What's his number now?

Did he mention a specific number?

Is it still 13 million or has it gone to 13.954 million?

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So it's almost a million more than he was claiming before.

Yes.

It just keeps going and going and going.

And this is how,

again, it's the exact same scam.

You know, it's you know, this, it's very similar to this.

You ever see a before and after picture of a woman and some

giant weight loss with these really impressive numbers?

And she took this really questionable supplement that is seemingly just ground up tree bark.

And you're just like, wow, really?

That happens?

And you're like, well, wait a minute.

How did that happen?

Maybe she's just lying.

No, it's not that she's lying.

This has happened over and over again.

They've caught these people.

She was pregnant.

Oh, wow.

Right.

So she's pregnant.

She gives birth to a child.

And I don't know.

You may know if you know anything about the biology.

And I know now we know that men can have kids too, but in this case, it was a woman.

When you have a child, you tend to lose weight.

Huh, really?

I don't know exactly how that process works, but it seems like almost like you've removed something from what would be picked up on a scale.

Yeah.

And so this is what he's doing, right?

Like you're removing essentially.

a pregnancy of the of the COVID numbers that weighed everything down.

You remove that and all of a sudden your weight loss numbers look wonderful and you act like it's the tree bark supplement.

That's the Biden scam here.

Everyone knows people gained jobs in 2021 having nothing to do with Joe Biden.

Everyone knows when people came to work after the pandemic,

you were going to have good job numbers.

What's fascinating about that is the reason the numbers look good is because the economy was shut down, a thing that Joe Biden and everyone in his party fully supported and cheered on not only through 2020, but also into 2021 and 2022.

Yeah.

They were the ones pushing for the shutdowns.

And then governors like Ron DeSantis were saying, no, we're going to keep things open.

And Joe Biden gets credit for that in his numbers, even though he was saying he was Ron Death Santis at the time.

It's so disingenuous and requires an opinion of voters that is so low.

It's like this is one of the most defining moments in American history, in people's lives.

And you're saying, we assume they'll just forget it occurred.

We think that little of them.

And you know what?

There's no president in the history of the United States who's ever been personally responsible for 14 million jobs.

So don't that, that's not their, their job is not to create jobs, really, but they do.

do, they can contribute to it in a way by creating the conditions under which jobs can then be created by somebody else.

But there's no president of the United States.

Ronald Reagan, it wasn't creating jobs.

No, not directly.

No, not directly.

Except for the ones that, and this is for every president, sometimes they expand programs and create government jobs, which is nothing to do with

it.

To be proud of, but it is something that does occur.

But

when you're taking credit for 13, 14 million job creation, it's just so ridiculous.

It's just such a stupid lie.

It's such a stupid lie, and you have to think your audience is so stupid.

It's like

insulting to us.

Like, you could tell a classroom of kindergarten students that you created 14 million jobs, and they'll look at you with wide eyes, and they'll go, wow, that sounds like a high number.

They'll have no idea, of course, whether it's true or not.

And that's how he thinks that voters are.

They'll just not understand the most basic thing about their lives.

And now, what's also fascinating is in here, first of all, he does not compare himself to Democratic presidents.

He only

Republican presidents.

And in that, they include Ronald Reagan.

Now, everyone knows how successful the Ronald Reagan, the Reagan economy was, but, of course, he limits it to the first, what is it?

I can't remember how many months he does.

Let's see if it's 33 months in office.

First 33 months in office.

Now, of course, when it was mostly Carter, Jimmy Carter remembers like so his

father.

Carter had a president who put us in a malaise so that so the economy was so bad, we had 20% interest rates and everything was melting down.

Reagan comes in and his first couple of years is reversing that with his policies and they nail him for 487,000 jobs lost.

Jeez.

Which is like, it's triply incoherent.

Like every part of this is a lie and only could be believed by the dumbest human beings that have ever lived in all of human history.

If you went back to caveman times, you could tell them this story and they would be like, wait a minute, Oogamboonga,

we had the pandemic thing.

They would even be able to

figure it out.

And now you have a situation where Joe Biden is running his entire campaign with the only argument being, my people must be so stupid they'll believe this.

And honestly, can you, do you doubt that he's right on that?

He's wrong on a lot of stuff, but man, his voters will eat this stuff up.

They'll lap up every idiotic detail.

They will.

Even with the mainstream media telling them, no, I mean, look, he's lying on this one.

That's why you just hope that Democrats will wake up to how

compromised he is mentally.

I mean, I think even Democrats are seeing how bad he stumbles around, how much he mumbles during speeches, how lost he is when he finishes a speech and can't find his way off the stinking stage, how he can't navigate stairs.

I mean, I'll never forget how a few, I guess it's been a couple of months ago now in Ireland, where he almost fell face first down those stairs.

You ever, did you ever play the, I mean, he stumbles and fortunately there's a railing and he catches himself.

Oh, wow.

But man, that would have been a bad header that he took there because

he would have been hurt.

Pat, think of how terrifying this must be for

the left.

Oh my God.

Because he takes one spill like that.

And you got Kamala Harris.

Potentially.

Either Kamala Harris or at least the fact that

the numbers that show that almost everybody believes that he's too old, those numbers will skyrocket.

Oh, they will.

Because people will be like, oh, my gosh, he can't even walk around.

I mean, the fact that he catches himself on a railing is the difference between him being the nominee or not.

But it's really interesting for the Democrat Party right now.

And I think it places Republicans in a really good place because behind Joe Biden, you don't like him.

Well, you've got Kamala Harris.

She's going to be the head of the party if it's not Joe Biden.

If he were to step down, everybody would say, well, isn't she the logical next

candidate instead of Gavin Newsom, who I don't know, know, I think he's terrible.

He is terrible.

Terrible.

Legitimately, terrible.

Awful job in California.

So I don't know what kind of story he's going to try to tell.

But I mean, he tries to put himself up against Ron DeSantis, and there's no comparison between the job he's done in California and the one DeSantis has done.

No.

So you all.

And that's everyone knows because everyone's moving from California to Florida.

Right.

Right.

By the way, they are going to debate.

It's November 30th.

It's happening.

November 30th.

Oh, wow.

So it's coming up in nine days.

Yeah, nine days.

That's going to be interesting.

It is.

I mean, at the beginning, when it was announced, it was sort of like a, wow, this is in some ways a risk for DeSantis, but also a good way for him to maybe show he can slam someone on the Democratic side and beat up on Gavin Newsom.

But it was a little risky.

I think now, with the way the campaign has gone, there's really only upside for DeSantis.

I mean, if he loses to

Newsome, his campaign's over anyway, but he's already

in some trouble.

So you go in there and if he has a great moment against Newsome, really dominates that debate, that might show people, wow,

this could go well against Joe Biden.

And maybe it'll convince some people for the DeSantis argument that he would do a great job and be more electable than Donald Trump because that's the argument he needs to make.

And so far, honestly, the polls don't support it all that well.

Who's carrying it?

Do you know?

I think it's happening on Hannity's show, isn't it?

Oh, that's right.

It is.

I think it is.

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All right, not to put too fine a point on how bad a president we have,

but we've been talking about his bizarre little Biden-isms.

Yeah.

One of my favorites is other than the train story and the Xi Jinping thing, where he talks about traveling 17,000 miles with him, with Xi Jinping.

And

he talked about the one word that sums up America on the Tibetan plateau.

Sometimes it's a Tibetan plateau and other times

it's some other place where he was asking about it.

But this is one of the weirdest phenomenon that I've ever seen with any president anytime ever.

And that's his weird tendency to tell people not to jump.

He apparently thinks suicide is really funny.

I've never heard anyone else discover this.

I don't know really how you did it initially, but you're the only person I've ever heard discover this.

It's really fascinating.

It's an amazing thing to me.

But here's a few, just a few times.

He's done it, I think we've counted around 50, but this is not all 50.

I see it.

And we also don't jump.

Don't jump.

I didn't even see all the way.

I didn't see the bleachers up there.

Hey, everybody.

Don't jump.

Don't jump.

Bye.

Thank you very much.

All of these are different places, different times.

Don't jump.

Don't jump.

Don't jump.

Thank you, sir.

Don't jump.

Don't jump.

Don't jump.

Hey.

Hey, man.

Don't jump.

You look crazy enough to jump.

Don't jump.

Wow.

Don't jump.

Look.

Bizarre.

And we're coming.

Don't jump.

And this is just basically

every time he sees someone who's higher than him.

Yes, that's what he says.

Anytime, and then last week, he did it with people below him.

And he told them, Don't jump.

Don't jump over us.

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And I got proof positive.

We were just talking about this off air.

Proof positive that there's no global warming.

It got really cold last night in Dallas, Texas.

It's going to be considerably cooler today.

So obviously the temperatures aren't hotter than usual.

They're colder than normal.

Yeah.

So there's no global warming.

Well, that's because they've added all these electric cars.

Oh, secured it.

That's what I love, too.

When you do, if you do happen to mention something like that, then it's because they already took care of the problem.

Right.

Well, then I guess we don't need to spend the $140 trillion or whatever it is.

And they'll be be like no that's not what that means uh-uh no

well wait you can't have it both ways either we fixed it or we didn't which is it

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Have you seen The Creator?

Have you seen that?

It's an AI movie.

No, Glenn saw it, though.

Did he like it?

He said it was one of the most anti-American movies.

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

He said it was like well done, but also one of the most.

Very well done.

Really cool tech, you know, because it supposedly takes place in 2065.

Okay.

And

so from that aspect, it's really kind of cool looking.

They filmed it well.

It was good acting.

But yeah, anti-American and pro-AI.

Like AI was completely peaceful and loving and benevolent and sensitive and inclusive and all the things you'd want it to be.

America, mean, selfish murderers, essentially.

So, yeah, it was disappointing.

And I thought at the end, okay, maybe this was

this done by people from China?

And no, it was not.

It wasn't.

No.

Americans wrote this screenplay.

And

amazing how

people are hating

how people are.

I know.

Gosh,

it's so weird.

I mean, look, I can complain about America.

We do it from time to time.

You may notice.

There are things about America that are worth complaining about.

Certainly public officials that are worth complaining about.

Yeah.

People trying to take our liberty and our rights from us.

Yeah.

But I don't get lost, you know, in this

narrative that America's a bad place overall.

It's a great freaking place, man.

There's nothing better than it.

And yet it's always portrayed, it seems, in Hollywood as the opposite.

Isn't it?

I mean, not always, but oftentimes it is.

And I mean, that was a major release.

That was a, I think that movie cost north of 200 million to produce.

And

there's just, why?

Why did America have to be the bad guy?

And AI is the good guy.

Yeah.

Very bizarre.

Really bizarre.

Very strange, and you just don't understand why.

Like, I I don't know,

certainly probably not in China, but like, do other countries just have movies made about themselves that constantly just show them in the most negative way possible?

My guess would be no.

It's weird.

I mean, maybe Europe, some European countries I could see maybe doing it.

You know, there's probably a lot of, you know, British media that is just bashing Great Britain.

I could see that.

But I don't know.

It doesn't seem nearly as common as it is here.

I remember going back to,

I don't know why I always remember this one dumb tweet, but it was years and years and years ago.

And it was one of the first anti-Iraq war movies that came out.

And it was portraying the Iraq war as like, you know, typical, we treat our soldiers like crap.

It was just one of the second Iraq war.

So 2000, you know, the George Bush era.

And it came out and it totally bombed.

Remember, there was a whole series of those movies that came out.

They were like Sean Penn, you know, like type era.

And it was like, they all came out and they all bombed.

They went to the box office with all these big actors and all this publicity and just bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb over and over and over again.

And some idiot from one of these, it might have been Media Matters, but it was one of these dopey organizations that obsess about, you know, everything that, you know, conservatives say.

And Glenn was making fun of them.

And they said,

apparently Glenn Beck's never heard of a lost leader.

And I just remember thinking, like, wait, what?

Like, you're, so your idea is that eventually there's going to be a lot of hit Iraq war movies that, that show,

that we were evil and were just killing Muslims and wanted our soldiers to die and come back with terrible PTSD or whatever the messages are of these movies and like I just I don't remember the era of the hugely successful anti-Iraq war movies even though like public opinion has turned on it at some level but there was never any commercial successes that I can remember yeah like I don't know I don't think people really like seeing movies about how evil their heroes are yeah I don't think so either It's it's I mean, a little uncommon.

I mean, I guess, you know, some people on the left might watch a movie today about one of their heroes turning bad, like Jeffrey Epstein or something.

But, you know, generally speaking, I don't think that's a huge way.

Like anti-military movies, there's been successes, right?

There were some Vietnam, certainly big Vietnam successes showing about that, you know, the military was bad, but nothing really ever came of the lost leader that was going to come out of the mid-2000s anti-Iraq war movies.

I was just just looking for the box office because you were talking about how many of these anti-American movies bomb.

The creator grossed looks like 36.8 million domestically.

That's terrible.

Oh, that must have been a big budget, too.

Wasn't it a high-tech, like high effect

type movie?

Yeah.

But this says it was a budget around 80 million.

So I overestimated this.

Not super high.

Not super high.

Now, of course, a couple things to take into account whenever you look at these movies.

I've got a couple of friends who've worked in this industry and walked me through this several years ago.

Number one, usually the $80 million budget number they use does not include promotion.

No, I think you're right.

So that's usually either

between 50 and 100% more than the actual budget to get people to watch this movie.

This is why there was this controversy that came out, was it a week or two ago, where they had the Wiley Coyote movie that is completely finished.

And they just decided to just shelve it and take a loss on it.

Oh, wow.

Did you hear about this story?

No.

It was an an I think it was maybe a live action.

I don't remember the live action Wily Coyote.

Yeah, check this.

Someone Google that real quick because I can't remember.

I thought it was live action.

And I remember thinking, I don't think I'd want to watch it.

Also, how do you show Acme anvils landing on people's head when it's live action?

Yeah.

Is it a Saw sequel?

Is it a sequel to some horror movie?

But

I believe it was live action.

Anyway,

live action and animation combination, I'm getting the word, from the studio.

So basically, it was this, it was supposed to be a big budget effort.

Well done.

They went through the testing process.

It tested pretty well.

And so everyone expected them to release it.

And then they decided, now we're just going to take the tax gain for shelving it and getting nothing from it.

And so why would you do that?

Well, part of the reason why you do that is you don't believe it's going to be a huge hit.

And you realize you're going to have to spend another $80 million to advertise it to get it to do anything.

So they didn't want to dump in a bunch more money.

Now, they're going back and forth on that.

There's a rumor now that they may actually wind up releasing it after all.

But that is why a lot of that stuff happens.

So, first of all, you got to add another 50 to 100% of the budget number to the reported budget number to actually get the amount they're really spending.

And then, secondarily, the amount of box office revenue that they get is a top-line revenue number.

It's not the amount that the studio receives.

So, when you look at that number, you should cut it in half.

So, if you get really, if it's 50, if a movie makes $50 million, think of the studio getting about 25 million of it.

And that, now, down the line, there are additional things to factor in, like DVD, you know, not DVD sales anymore, but streaming rights and all these other things that might wind up making the financial picture better down the line.

But if you're just looking at theater box office, revenue-wise, take half of it and budget-wise, add another 50% to 100% to it.

I've also heard that the international box office take is not as good for the studios as the domestic.

Yeah, I think that's true.

I don't know the numbers, but that is, you know, it's not as problematic.

So when you hear a movie has done a billion dollars worldwide, that doesn't mean it's not nearly as good as making a billion dollars in America.

So that is true.

So what you've just discussed is a terrible bomb.

Yeah.

That is a terrible bomb.

So good.

If you think of 80 million, maybe they spent 120 total and they made, instead of 36 million, they made about 18.

That's a disaster.

That's a catastrophe.

It really is.

There's no streaming rights deal.

Unless it has the second life of suits, you're not going to be making that money.

Wow.

That has been incredible.

Yeah.

And we should point out, by the way, you know,

we make a lot of predictions that are correct.

We're almost perfectly correct on every prediction we've ever made.

But we were both way out in front of the suits thing before all you people watched on Netflix.

Yeah.

And you were all like, oh, it's the best show ever.

Yeah.

Pat and I loved that show for years before

we made it to Netflix and became.

And it actually took years.

Neither of us watched it.

Neither of one were.

You've been talking about it for a long time.

You watched it on the original run, didn't you?

I tried to sell you on it on the original run.

And eventually, no.

Eventually you got there.

I think the problem with Suits was the name.

Suits.

Two names.

Suits and USA Network.

Those are the two problems with Suits.

Yes.

But it is.

But man,

what a great series that was.

I love that shit.

It's awesome.

And too.

The fact that

now it is basically like it's the biggest success in the history of netflix as far as just total viewing hours that's incredible it's insane it was a show that

it was relatively popular when it was on usa network but you wouldn't think it would be the biggest streamer of all time now

There is the detail that one of the stars of the show turned out to be a very famous princess.

So that is part of it, I will admit.

You know, having her on the promotional,

and I think for a lot of people, it probably hurts the show.

They think, oh, God, I don't want to see her, Megan Markle.

Which is a mistake.

Which is a mistake because she's awesome and she's great in the show.

She's great.

She's actually really good.

But I think now there's more of a vibe that people don't really like her very much because of some of the stuff she's done since she's been princess.

But yeah, take that out of it.

It's a great show.

And everybody else in the show is great.

Didn't she have a podcast they signed on for like $50 million or something?

And then she produced, was it 12 episodes?

It's incredible.

I think 12.

I don't know.

And then they're like, okay,

bye-bye.

This is the same thing.

What happened with the Obamas?

Yes.

If you are liberal and well-known for something completely different, like that's your second life.

It used to be going to think tanks or

being a professor.

Now they'll offer you $100 million to do a podcast.

I mean, let's be honest, to do nothing.

I mean, they'll give you $100 million to do nothing.

Just like to have your name associated with their brand.

It's crazy.

You know, Megan Markle,

is she a good podcaster?

I doubt it.

My guess is no.

I never watched her podcast.

Maybe she's, I mean, look, she is a good actress.

Like,

you know, so maybe she's able to pull that off.

But like, again, is she doing hardcore research going through and like researching these podcast episodes?

She's coming in.

She's going to a voice booth for 15 minutes and cutting a script.

Yeah.

And they're going to give her $100 million.

Nice.

Like, you know, it's no longer like, oh, I'm a professor at Princeton and I teach one class a year and they give me, you know, a million dollars.

Like, that's old school.

Stu and I will reunite Pat and Stu on Spotify for half that price.

The half of $100 million?

Yeah.

Speak for yourself.

Okay.

I will do the Spotify thing for half of what makes it.

So you'll do it for $50.

And I'll do more than I'll do 24 podcasts.

So

this is a high profit.

I will do the 24 podcasts.

I'll do twice the work for half the money.

I'll do twice the work for the full amount.

I'm not going to do it for half.

Okay.

But I'll do it for the full amount.

I mean, you're driving a hard bargain.

Hey, you know, and that's watch for that phone to ring any minute now.

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More birthday fun from the White House yesterday.

KJP was asked about Biden's age because, you know, he turned to 81 yesterday.

You think that would be a problem?

No.

Is there a real alarm happening behind the scenes that the president is simply too old to stake around for other four years?

No, there's no alarm happening behind the scenes.

It's not about age.

It's about the president's experience.

That's what we believe.

That's what they believe.

You know, as they say, the proof is in the pudding.

I would put

the president's stamina.

That is true.

President's wisdom, ability to get this done

on behalf of the American people against anyone.

Anybody.

Anyone

any day of the week.

She could say that with a straight line.

Over and over and over, she has said that kind of stuff.

He's the best communicator in the White House.

He has the most energy.

The 20-year-olds in the White House can't even keep up with him.

Are they, again, do they have no legs?

How is it possible that nobody can keep up with him?

He shuffles everywhere he goes.

And even if your argument is, well, mentally, they can't keep up with him.

Oh, please.

I mean, first of all, there's a lot of

of people in the White House

some of them maybe that's true yeah maybe general I mean look I mean can Corinne Jean-Pierre keep up with anybody I mean she's an idiot

she's a complete moron in every single way of course she can't keep up with anybody she can't keep up with a with a sausage the men she has the the IQ of a breakfast meat yeah so I of course she can't keep up with anybody a breakfast meat I don't know maybe a luncheon like a processed like bologna like a thin slice of turkey maybe okay Okay.

It's possible.

But look, we all know she's an idiot, and maybe she, maybe she is legitimately impressed by Joe Biden.

I mean, considering where she's coming from, it's possible.

True.

But everyone knows that Joe Biden has these struggles.

And this was their argument.

Like, behind the scenes, you don't understand how incredible.

Proof is in the pudding.

Proof is in the pudding.

And that's great.

The Bidenomics thing is great.

This is what's fantastic about their approach here to this election.

They've decided to take responsibility for all of these horrible failures.

Usually presidents blame the other guy.

And the fact that they're running against the other guy again, which is pretty rare, gives you a unique opportunity to say, actually, this is all Trump's fault.

I don't know how, but believe me, the media will carry the water for you.

It's a definite gift.

They will say anything you want them to say about how bad Trump is.

Instead, they're like, actually, bidenomics is working.

Actually, you don't understand how great this is.

Actually, he's really, really smart behind the scenes.

Actually, you don't understand.

Everything that you feel about life on a daily basis is actually not true.

It's the opposite.

Just believe that.

But how's that working for him?

Poorly.

Where's his, let's say, approval ratings on, like, I don't know, NBC's poll.

Yes, very low.

In fact, it's a new low for Joe Biden.

We actually came up with a, on Studo's America, we, you know, we go through polls a decent amount.

And I kept saying over and over again, like, oh, hey, it's another, it's a new low for Joe Biden.

We just came up with a whole segment.

called Biden's new low because there was always a new low to be discussed.

And this was another example of it on yesterday's program.

He's down at 40%.

You might say 40%?

That sounds really good.

Well, this is an NBC poll that has been favorable to Biden.

So it's shown higher approval

throughout the upper 40s, maybe?

Mid-40s.

Mid and upper 40s over the past year or so.

And now it's down to 40%, which is catastrophic for that particular poll.

This has happened over and over and over and over again.

And again, he's losing to Trump.

Now, it's funny because

the main argument for the Trump challengers is Trump's not electable and you got to elect me.

And so far, the polls don't really support that line of argument.

I mean, look, Trump is showing up relatively well in these polls, leading in a lot of them.

And the argument for Biden is that I'm the only one who can beat Donald Trump, which it's not working for him either.

No.

There's no real argument there.

He has, now, this is a poll that showed Biden ahead by four or five about eight months ago.

And it has,

about eight months ago, he was up by four or five, Biden.

Then it was tied, and now he's down by four or five.

It's going the wrong direction for Joe Biden.

And look, I think the Democrats realize this as much as we do.

It's just a matter of whether they have the balls to switch him out.

I mean,

in theory, it would be obviously the right thing to do.

But you need to do that through a competitive primary, which it will not allow.

Right.

Right.

So he needs to step down if it's going to happen.

He has to go the axle rod way.

Axelrod was like, it's got to be a Joe Biden's decision.

And he's probably right on that.

Yeah.

And

I don't know that I see that happening.

He wants the job.

He's wanted it his entire life.

Yep.

And he's convinced himself he's good at it, I think.

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Including Harry Dunn,

who was a big hero and was given the Presidential Citizen's Medal by Joe Biden.

Big deal.

Because of what he did on January 6th, apparently.

And then it turns out he lied about a lot of it, if not all of it.

Yeah.

And

sometimes I get a little uncomfortable with sometimes how this stuff stuff gets presented on even on the conservative side.

I don't know if you're like this, Pat, but I like, look, there was some bad stuff that happened on January 6th.

Just because the media has gone crazy and said it's the biggest insurrection since, I don't know,

the 1800s.

And yes, all of their stuff has been blown out of proportion.

It was not an insurrection.

It was a riot.

Right.

Nobody was killed.

Nobody killed.

At least on the Capitol police side.

No, nobody got killed.

I mean, you got to go through,

they showed that after the fact, that it was not what caused the officer's death.

Right.

Suicide.

Yeah.

And two strokes.

Yeah.

Now,

the first officer that died died from two.

And I was suspect of that from the beginning because his family was like, well,

he had some medical issues.

But then we didn't find out for a couple of months as to exactly what it was.

But it wasn't the fact that somebody sprayed bear spray in his face.

Yes, that's what we were told.

Nobody hit him over the head with, what was it he was supposed to, fire extinguisher, I think, was what we were told at the beginning.

So

it was just, it's been, and I know what you're saying, but I get so irritated with the other side talking about what a tragedy it was and how bad the right is

for the one time.

And this is what's so frustrating about January 6th to me.

It's the one time they can point to.

All of the thousands of rallies.

I mean, how many did we do going back to the Tea Party era where we had hundreds of thousands of people gathered, and not only were there no arrests, there was barely a piece of trash left over when they left.

And that's become a cliche.

Everyone loves to say that now, but it was true with this audience and the August 28th.

Yeah,

2010.

Yeah, exactly.

Over and over again.

And that's why Glenn emphasized so much.

It's going to be peaceful.

Please don't bring your signs.

Don't even bring signs.

Don't dress up in the

tricornered hat.

Right.

Just come out.

Just come cool.

Be normal.

And an important moment to celebrate and also hope for and pray for a better future for our country.

And this is why, because he knew that one mistake, one mistake.

And if it got out of control, it'd be used against us forever.

And look what's happening.

And look what's happening.

He was 100% right on that.

And I remember at the time being like, why do we even talk about, why do we talk about this so much?

Because Glenn would always say, like, you've got to be peaceful.

And I was like, do you know this audience?

They're always, they are.

And I maintain that's been true even through January 6th.

It wasn't, I mean, I know of no members of this audience that were involved in anything bad, but there were some people who were.

And it is, I think it's a little, it's insanely ridiculous what the media has done, what the left has done to try to turn this into essentially the worst thing since the Civil War.

Yeah.

On the other hand,

it is a little

bit to 9-11.

Yes, ridiculous.

Come on.

Ridiculous.

On the other hand, it does, it's a little, I don't know.

I feel like some of the defenses of January January 6th go too far, too.

It's just like, all right, like, it wasn't as bad as they're saying it was, but it was still bad.

I mean, there's, you know, there's violence against police officers.

I'm not cool with that.

I have no tolerance for that whatsoever.

I have law enforcement members of my family.

I got no tolerance.

They shouldn't have broken things.

They shouldn't have defaced the Capitol building.

All that stuff is unacceptable.

I think most people know that.

They're just sick of talking about it, so they don't want to acknowledge it anymore.

But one of the things that Blaze has done really well is focus this on really specific things.

You know, as Steve Baker has gone through this, like he went to the, it was the Oath Keepers trial and sat in the courtroom every day and watched the accusations, watched this testimony, and was able to go back and show the testimony made in court was actually inaccurate to what is on film.

Yeah.

A big thing, like people vouching for other officers.

And then we will look on the video.

They weren't even in the name, even in the area when the stuff occurred.

Essentially, they're just lying, straight out lying.

I saw this, and they couldn't have seen this unless they can see through walls because they were on the other side of the building.

Yeah, that's true.

You know, stuff like that going on.

And then, in addition,

the part that gets glossed over a lot here is not

we talk about the political debate around January 6th and what it means, and how bad the right is, or how great the left is, and how Donald Trump's bad, and Joe Biden's good, and that's why the media talks about this all the time.

But there were actual real people who are in prison right now on these testimonies the fact that like people who did who said who didn't commit crimes were put in jail based on testimony that we now know is not true and by the way nobody's picking this stuff up the blaze is doing it and you know some people on the on the right are picking it up but like the the mainstream media who is you know will churn out a netflix documentary for even if there's a one percent chance of somebody who's in jail that's innocent will not pick this stuff up at all because of course january 6th, evil.

We can't give Donald Trump what he wants, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Nobody else seems to be doing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And somebody has to.

Somebody has to.

And so we are at the Blaze.

You know, as Glenn said,

one of the things that

Harry Dunn made a big point of was that he, all these racial epitaphs, all of the racial stuff that was thrown at him.

And

Glenn made the point that it's the most video recorded event in history, and there's not a single piece of evidence, video or audio that emerged to show any kind of racially charged event like that.

How is that possible?

They're releasing what?

It's absolutely something

possible.

Essentially, impossible if what he said is true.

You would have heard something, seen something,

but you didn't.

But you didn't.

And this is just, you know, it's part of what the left does over and over again.

They try to find ways to

undercut

conservatives and what they're trying to do by lying about them or just doing kind of the, you know, both side stuff.

I mean,

They always like to act like these things that are huge events in everyone's life didn't exist.

We talked about it with Bionomics, where they're trying to say, basically,

if people don't remember COVID existed, this will be a good argument.

The same thing with the George Floyd riots.

Like, I guess we are all supposed to sit back and act like that didn't happen.

Like, these cities didn't burn to the ground.

Like, you know, people didn't actually enter police precincts and burn them to the ground.

They didn't loot target after target after target.

None of this stuff happened.

These people were just peaceful protesters, but the one incident they have, one of out of all of this time, I mean, you can name them.

I mean, I say one.

What else?

What's the next one you'd name?

Charlottesville.

Now, first of all, the people in Charlottesville have literally nothing in common with me in any way.

I don't believe anything that they believe.

You go back and look at the views of the group of people who were responsible for it.

And these are people that are in support of like universal health care and abortion.

Like these are

nothing, but somehow that gets associated with us on the right.

I don't know how.

They call it the alt-right, which is really, it's an alternative to the right, not an alternative form of the right.

But that's a whole nother story for another day.

They go down and they just, they pick out these little things.

This stuff happens all the time on the left.

These Palestinian protests have had all sorts of vandalism and violence associated with them.

But since they're on the left, they get the

there.

It's okay.

They're beating up Jews in the streets, but that's okay because look, it's consistent with Point Omar.

He was killed.

Killed.

Killed.

Old man.

Killed.

Killed.

It's disgraceful, but they don't care.

They don't care.

No, they don't.

It really is.

No, they don't.

And they continue to tell that story again,

like it's one of the big events of the century.

And

it was not, as you mentioned, an event that conservatives pulled off.

No, it was not at all.

It was a bunch of of fringe groups that had nothing to do with it.

And they try to beat Trump with that, too, because, oh, he said they were really nice people.

He wasn't talking about the Nazis there.

No.

Now,

do you know that because he said, I'm not talking about the white supremacists?

Was it that part of the quote that says?

Yes.

Yes, that's how I know.

Okay.

Because he said it.

That part kind of gets left out.

I've noticed of the transcripts often.

Quite a bit.

Yeah.

That is one of those things when you go back and look at it.

Yeah, look, Trump has some, look, every once in a while, Trump says something that is a self-inflicted wound.

Yeah.

It does happen.

It does, it does happen.

Often, though, this stuff gets blown out of proportion.

And everyone knew what he was saying.

Everyone knew, like,

there were all sorts of conversations about

statues being torn down.

And the point is that some people who don't want statues torn down are not white supremacists, right?

Like, these are people who think, wait a minute, I question whether we should be erasing history.

Even if it's a bad statue, let alone when the left

drags down a statue of Ben Franklin or Thomas Jefferson.

But I'm saying, like, even when we have a Confederate hero of some sort that is maybe a controversial figure or definitely a controversial figure,

some people would say, look, even if it's a bad guy, you got to leave that up.

Yeah.

You know,

that doesn't mean you're a horrible person for arguing for that.

That doesn't mean you support the policies of the Confederacy.

But this is what they paint it to be.

That's amazing.

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We're just talking about the Charlottesville thing and how the left has made that about the right and about conservatives, and it has nothing to do with that.

Back in September, Joe Biden was at a campaign speech, and he said, you remember those folks walking out of the fields, literally carrying torches with Nazi swastikas, holding them forward, singing the same vicious anti-Semitic bile, the same exact bile, bile that was sung in Germany in the 30s.

And a young woman was killed.

A young woman was killed.

Then he went on to say that according to the official White House transcript, the former guy was asked, meaning Donald Trump, what do you think would happen?

He was the sitting president, and he said, I thought there were some very fine people on both sides.

And I mean this sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, that's when I decided I was going to run again.

Then he talked for a couple of minutes about how his extended family urged him to challenge Trump because Trump was such a bad guy.

And then he went on to tell this story.

You know, you may remember that, you know, those folks from Charlottesville, as they came out of the fields and carrying those swastikas, and remember the ones with torches and the Ku

accompanied by the Ku Klux Klan.

and in addition to that they had there were white supremacists anyway they were making the big case about how terrible this was and a young woman was killed in the process a young woman was killed in the process huh seems like we're having deja vu here doesn't it these are this is not you repeating the same story this is joe biden joe biden repeating the same story moments after he already told the story god this is what people with dementia do

and my predecessor as i said was asked what he thought.

There were some very fine people on both sides.

He went on to tell the exact same story minutes later, same speech.

Not days later, like he usually does with the train story or the Xi Jinping story.

Minutes later in the same campaign speech.

Was he on prompter?

Do we know if he was on prompter for this?

I don't know.

I'm wondering if somehow...

I don't know.

I mean, the argument maybe could be made that it was just pasted in there twice.

Because Because he does say the only thing that would make me.

Somebody's head should roll if that's the case.

Oh, for sure.

And then wouldn't you realize, though, as you start into the second.

Well, I told you that already.

Yeah.

Well, doesn't he say something?

As I mentioned, at some point, he seems to catch himself.

Doesn't he in that second part, the second storytelling?

I don't see

any evidence of that.

As I said moments ago.

No, that doesn't seem to be.

And this is from the White House transcript.

So you would think they would put that in there.

Yeah.

Probably would happen.

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Which is just a tremendous publication.

I guess they've noticed that Donald Trump is old too.

Oh, wow.

Is that true?

Yeah, I guess so.

He's mentioned Elton John.

How old do you have to be?

It's really old.

Really old?

Do you remember him?

I frankly do.

So I guess I'm really old as well.

Really, really old.

Because, yeah, I grew up on Elton John music.

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Thanks, Pat.

You're welcome.

You're welcome, Stu.

I appreciate you welcoming me.

It's already hour three of the show, though, so I've been here for a while, but you know, thank you.

Yeah,

I just noticed it.

I just noticed you're sitting just to my right.

And we've also noticed, I guess, at least The Atlantic has, that Donald Trump is really old.

That's actually what the headline is.

Has anyone noticed that Trump is really old?

Is the actual headline of the story?

But it's not for the same reasons, really, is it?

That we've noticed that Joe Biden is old.

And we're not going to be able to do that.

Well, probably.

You know, that's, you know, it's exactly what I would expect out of you.

Yeah.

Exactly to cover up for Donald Trump.

A right-wing extremist, a MAGA extremist,

who's going to come on the air and tell you that Donald Trump is somehow different in the way he's handling things than Joe Biden.

Somehow sharper.

Somehow sharper, right?

More active, more spry.

The headline really is, has anyone noticed that Trump is really old?

He's younger than Biden, but not by much.

Which factually is accurate.

I checked this one.

But although I don't know that it's all that important, here's their case to tell you why Donald Trump is very old.

First of all, it starts out just kind of laying out the full case.

You know, you get the big picture first, and then they give you the details.

You know how they do that in these really intricate stories?

So it starts out with the big case, which is Donald Trump is an old man.

Period.

It's the end of that sentence.

All right.

Then they go on to explain how they got there.

He's 77 years old.

Okay.

When Trump was born, Harry S.

Truman was president and Perry Cuomo topped the year's pop charts.

Betty White hadn't yet started her career in film.

Oh.

Israel and Pakistan didn't exist.

Korea was.

That means it was before 1947.

Nobody's that old.

Nobody's that old.

Come on.

But apparently there is at least one person who is.

Okay.

And it's Donald Trump, I guess.

Korea was a unified country, and Vietnam was not.

The pioneering computer,

E-N-I-A-C, ENAC, I don't know, was just four months old.

I'm missing that reference for whatever reason.

Trump's cultural references are dated and only getting more so.

Elton John and the Rolling Stones

headline his rally playlists.

Nobody but super old, old people play Elton John and the Rolling Stones.

Elton John had had a dumb point.

What was the last Elton John hit?

Candle in the Wind, maybe?

Maybe the 90s?

The 97 version.

He did Candle in the Wind for about 27 people.

Every time someone died.

Yes.

That sucks.

Yes.

Marilyn Monroe, Princess Die.

There was somebody else in there, too, I think.

And there was like Mildred from down the street, who died of old age.

Yes, in the wind.

Yes.

Which was a weird version of that song.

I'll be honest.

I thought he went a little too far on that particular version.

No one even knew who was.

So did I honestly.

But I love Meesome Elton John.

I mean, I think a lot of people do.

I don't think you have to be super old to enjoy Elton John.

No, I mean, Elton John did a song with

Collective Soul.

Elton John has done songs with a lot of contemporary artists.

So, so there you go.

Who?

Dua.

Oh, see, that's somebody.

Dua Lipa.

Dua Lipa.

Lipa.

Dua Lipa, yes.

Dua Lipa.

Okay.

I've missed that Elton John duet with Dua Lipa.

Really?

Yeah, I have.

What's the name of that song?

Do you know?

You don't even know.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

But Elton and Dua

have been a pair, apparently.

Good.

All right.

I mean, he's one of those guys that is very influential, right?

And is one of those people.

Or Dua.

Dua.

Dua's a girl.

Dua as a girl.

A female.

She should.

Yes, a female.

I don't want to lock her down to that.

I don't know exactly how she

identifies.

Looking back at the discography here of,

yeah, it's like he did a...

What charts are these?

It's UK.

He said songs that have charted in the UK really recently.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Where's the U.S.

charts, though?

Because who cares about the UK?

We beat them.

Like, we already won the war.

A couple of times.

Yeah.

You know, it's like,

why are we still looking?

You know, he had stuff that charted, you know, certainly well into the 90s.

And,

you know, I mean, the Candle in the Wind 1997

is so goofy.

Well, it went to number one, though.

Yeah.

It was a number one song and had several others that charted after that.

It's done, you know, again, the UK is more popular than he is.

Well, after Candle in the Wind, he actually had something about The Way You Look Tonight, which charted

on October 11th of 97.

But the Dua Lipa one one with Elton was big.

Two years ago.

Just two years ago.

Cold Heart.

Yeah, and it went to number seven in the U.S.

Wow.

So that was a...

I mean, again, that's...

Look, we can overstate the impact of

Elton's work in that particular song.

And that is a Dua Lipa song where they had him say Cold Heart a couple times, but still.

Oh, that was it?

Yeah.

Did he play piano on it or anything?

Did he help write this song?

I don't know.

I'll never forget the Kanye West

Paul McCartney collaboration

when that came out and people were just discovering Paul McCartney for the first time.

Really?

And it was tweeted out, this Paul McCartney dude about to blow up.

You know, people might remember him.

Yeah.

I feel like he might even get it on the rock and roll Hall of Fame someday.

Wow.

I mean, I was going to throw it out there.

Yeah, that's a lot.

I don't know.

So, again, this is why he's old.

Donald Trump is old because Elton, John, and the Rolling Stone headlined his rally playlist.

Okay.

And when he had a chance to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, his selections included Babe Ruth, who died in 1948, and Elvis, who died in 1977, perhaps.

Perhaps.

Included in the article.

But again, this is like their case that Donald Trump's old.

And, you know, you go through this process.

If you are the left, your first attempt is to say, well, wait a minute, the thing they're accusing my candidate of is not true.

And let me disprove it to you.

They can't do that with Joe Biden because it is true.

He is old.

He is incompetent.

He is incoherent.

They can't bring him out for more.

They can't find the situation in which he would excel.

You can't put him in a positive light.

You can't come up with the moment where he will succeed because there's no chance of him succeeding.

So all you have is, yeah, but your guy's old too.

Your guy's worse, right?

Your guy's bad.

That's it.

That's that's what you do and so they are trying that now to say well wait a minute remember donald trump is old now i think most of that will happen after donald trump wins the primary if he is to do so because right now they're kind of content with trump up by 30 points and they're you know look they think they can beat him now they might not be right on that as they were proven in 2016.

They might not be correct.

They may very well lose this election, but they are convinced they can defeat him.

And I think they're also convinced, and this isn't really reflected in the polling right now, I will admit, but I think that they believe

Biden can only beat Trump.

They don't think he can beat any of these other people.

That doesn't, that's not necessarily the argument.

You can make the argument that doesn't matter.

You might say that Donald Trump deserves it.

And, you know, I'm not saying that you have to switch your vote because you, but that is how they look at this.

They say, look, Trump is a flawed candidate.

People have their minds made up about him.

And I don't know that that, I mean, certainly people have their minds made up about them largely, about him largely.

That being said, they also have their minds made up about Joe Biden, and they have not made their mind up positively.

There's a new poll out today, which is really bad for Democrats.

This is the worst poll I have seen.

This is saying something.

The worst poll I have seen for Joe Biden.

And this is the type of thing.

This is worse than the poll that came out, the Sienna poll of the swing states, where it showed that Trump had a lead.

This is only a national general election poll, but listen to this.

This is just coming out from Harris, which is a legitimate pollster, a nationwide pollster, or

scientific, relatively well-respected.

Trump 47,

Biden

40.

Wow.

Seven points.

A seven-point lead for Donald Trump.

This is the worst poll I have seen, at least, that I can remember.

But what if it's a three-person?

For a three-person race.

And it's just as bad.

Trump, 40.

Biden, 33, Kennedy, 14.

They also have Cornell West in there at 2%.

But another seven-point lead.

Wow.

By the way, I've been monitoring this, and I may do a piece in this for the Blaze or something at some point, talking about what the RFK Jr.

effect looks like.

I would say if you look at all the polls, the majority of the polls have showed more negative effect for Biden than Trump.

There have been some that have showed the reverse of that.

You know, we played the clip of Al Gore yesterday.

Well, sometimes

the SCO2 goes up first, but

sometimes the opposite is true.

It does happen.

Right, yeah, exactly.

Well, um, so it could, this doesn't prove anything in these polls.

I think the lean right now, though, is it's hurting Biden more than it is hurting Trump.

Uh, they, of course, hate RFK.

I think this is legitimately the reason he's not getting Secret Service protection.

I think this is why.

I think you're right.

I'm not saying they want something terrible to happen, but they want to punish him.

for doing what he's doing.

And right now, I think I don't know that necessarily that's the way it's going to end.

Like, I would not be shocked at the end of the day to find out that it hurt Trump more, the RFK thing.

I mean, he has much better favorability numbers on the right right now than he does the left.

I can't believe that.

That hurts me.

That hurts me.

That means you're not looking into him deeply enough.

Yeah, I think.

You could maybe be excused for that.

I mean, look, you know, he's been very public on a few issues and generally, like, you know, I'm a big Bitcoin guy.

I like the cryptocurrency stuff.

And he's good on that.

He's good on that.

He's good on that.

He's good for a lot of people on the back of the vaccine mandates.

He's fantastic.

He's been better on the border lately, but he wasn't always good on the border.

That's all.

I mean, a lot of this stuff seems to be, it seems to be newly discovered.

Hey, guess who my audience is?

Let me talk about this thing that I just figured out last week.

There's a lot of that with RFK Jr.

And he's good on some

like free speech things.

Yeah, because he's been the victim of

censorship.

And

he's been, of course,

even if I don't agree with a lot of his viewpoints, and that's very much the truth, he should be able to say them in the public square, and he should not be censored for them.

So I agree with him

on a few things.

But

we went through

the idea that you should give race-based priorities.

for all sorts of different projects or programs, you know, college admissions, you know, of programs, money that comes from the government in various different ways.

He is in full

unapologetic supporter of all of that crap.

Sure is.

He 100%

believes wholeheartedly at his core that because of the color of your skin, you should get more things from the government than if you have another color of your skin.

Now, I remember that.

That was a popular attitude back during the times of slavery, where people said, you know, I think only white people should get stuff and black people shouldn't.

Very popular viewpoint back then and continues to this day with these programs that he supports.

It's just different colors of skin on either side of it.

That's all.

But it's the same exact crap that we thought we got over a long time ago, but not apparently to RFK Jr.

He is a supporter of that.

He disagrees with the Supreme Court on all of these issues.

And again, I think we mentioned this yesterday.

He is one of the worst people on this planet on climate change.

Oh, yeah.

One of the worst on the planet.

I don't don't know that I could name one that's worse.

I mean, off the top of my head, I mean, like, you know, you could talk about Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

Name your left-wing politician.

I don't know that there's one that is worse than RFK Jr.

on this topic.

And I think for both you and I,

both you and me, actually, I believe it would be,

abortion is our biggest issue, being pro-life.

It's just hard

to overwhelm the 63 million lives that, you know, that's a big one.

That's a really important thing.

Well, he's terrible on that.

Horrible.

He believes believes in abortion.

Leave it up to the woman right up until the time of birth.

Oh, okay.

Oh, that's between she and her doctor or whatever.

That's the kind of stuff he says.

And that's the way I do.

And I believe all murder policies should be that way.

Yeah,

leave it up to the murderer.

If I want to kill Jeff Fisher, for instance.

Yes.

Jeffy.

Jeffy.

I mean, you maybe wouldn't kill him personally, but would you take away my right to kill him?

Your right to choose?

No.

Yeah.

You should be able to do whatever you want as far as this murder in the 2000th trimester.

You should leave that between me and my gun, right?

So

I mean,

again, it's a weird position to me.

And it's not weird on the left, right?

So he's because they don't believe in a third-issue,

hardcore leftist on like half of the issues in his world.

And if you want that, you can have it.

You can have a, I mean, I don't know why you go light with it.

You might as well go with Biden and get that on all the issues.

I don't know.

But to me, he's just not my flavor.

It's not what I want.

But I will say that he has, because he was critical of the COVID regime, sometimes correctly and sometimes not, in my view, but still, he was on the right side of that as far as conservative voters generally.

You're not radical enough on that issue.

There you go.

There you are.

I just want to work on that.

I want to mention that.

I'm going to work on that.

You need to be more extreme on that.

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Did we get to all the reasons why we've noticed now that Donald Trump is really, really old?

Yeah, that goes on and on and on and on.

And I don't even even get a sense it's a really serious effort.

You know, I think that's one of the things that we've learned by these things.

They need to throw these arguments out there, hoping some people will buy them.

Yeah, they're just throwing anything against the wall, seeing what sticks.

Yeah.

And I feel like they have to do that because they can't really talk about their own stuff.

And what are they going to do?

Let me tell you about Joe Biden's record on the border.

Can't do that.

Joe Biden's record on Afghanistan.

Right.

I can't do that.

Interestingly,

one of his best policies, if you want to give him that, which there's not many, would be Israel, where he's been at least mildly supportive.

However, the drop

approval rating is almost entirely due to his support for Israel.

And like, we would normally support a bad approval rating for Joe Biden.

However, honestly, in context, it's actually a problem because the reason why he's dropping in support is because

the left is getting upset with him over Israel.

So

the drop is not Republicans or Independents, which it has been over the last couple of years.

These are Democrats who are big Hamas supporters, apparently, and don't like the fact that he's not cheering on Hamas.

And there's a location program on that.

And my guess would be yes.

Yes.

I'm worried about Cave.

I think he probably will cave on it because, again, he has no principles when it comes to this.

And they've already been saying.

Oh,

you got to bring out

the two-state solution.

Well, okay, but one side doesn't agree with that, and it's not the Israelis.

Yeah.

The Israelis have offered that multiple times.

At least five, right?

Yeah, at least five.

Five or six.

And the U.N.

offered it in 1947, by the way, when Israel was created.

The Palestinian state could have been.

They just chose not to because from the river to the sea.

Right.

They wanted it all.

They don't want a Palestinian state.

They want no Jews.

They want Jews to be dead.

Exactly.

And it's the same thing with the ceasefire, Pat.

Like, has anyone bothered to stop and ask Hamas if they want a ceasefire?

Yeah.

Are we sure they want to rocket fire?

They want to stop being hit, obviously, as anyone would, but they don't want to stop killing.

They don't want to stop firing rockets.

They don't want to stop decapitations and murders and keeping people prisoner.

They don't and they won't.

You can't get a ceasefire when you're holding hundreds of prisoners.

And I say prisoners, I mean kidnapped victims.

Yeah.

So it's just, it's inexcusable.

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Triple 8727 B-E-C-K.

In addition to shrinkflation or inflation, there is now shrinkflation.

Are you familiar with the shrinkflation?

Yeah, where they tragedy

where they shrink the packaging, but charge you the same thing.

And then it's like, see, we lowered our, we kept our prices the same.

Yeah, and it goes from like 13.8 ounces to 11.4.

Yeah, or less sometimes.

Yeah.

Like yesterday, I was buying some strawberries, and they usually have these big,

longer and wider

packages.

And I noticed that it's not as wide anymore.

They kind of made it slimmer, but it's just as long.

It just, they crushed it inside in the middle.

And it's like, wait, and now it's the same price, in fact, a little bit more

for quite a few strawberries less.

I'm really not a fan of

this trend.

Would you prefer the same packaging with higher prices or smaller packaging that you might not notice?

Just be honest with you.

Just be honest.

That's what I like too.

Like, they had this thing with StubHub a while ago where they,

if you know anything about, and I look, I wind up buying tickets from StubHub relatively frequently because I don't like committing to things in advance.

So I don't know if we're going to go to that concert or that game until kind of the last minute.

So I bought a lot of tickets through StubHub.

Yeah.

I've kept the place in business for many years, mainly because the fees they charge on this website are incomprehensible.

Like, it's like 30%,

40% sometimes, these ticket fees.

It feels at times like it doubles the price.

Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't.

It's incredible how high they are.

Yeah.

And

at one time, I don't know, it was probably six or seven years ago, they rolled out this option to,

you can see, they've always had the option of you can see the tickets cost with the fees, but you got to turn it on.

You got to turn on that feature so you can see with the fees, which of course is the only way it makes any sense to look at them, right?

Like when you're talking about 30 and 40% fees, of course.

Yeah, you can't hide a 40% fee.

Right.

They do it.

But they try.

They try.

So at one point, they decided, you know what, we're going to do honest pricing.

You know, you've seen these initiatives by companies before.

And so they turned it on, they said, the default now will be you'll see them with the fees.

And they turned it on.

And I...

You have to look back and find the exact amount of time.

It was, I think, almost definitely less than a week, but it may have been like two days where they, and then they reversed their decision because everyone was going to the site and be like, Well, this ticket costs 250 bucks on StubHub, but it's 180 on this other site.

So I got to go to the other site.

And they lost so much business so quickly, they just changed it and it went back to it.

You have to turn it on, right?

Because people didn't want to see the higher prices.

Now, I argue I want to see it.

Every time I go on the site, I turn it on.

Tell me the real price.

I'm not really paying, right?

Like, why would I care what your price is without the fees?

Why would that be of any interest to me whatsoever?

Same thing with airlines.

Same thing with all products.

Just show me up front.

Just show me up front.

Just tell me.

Let me know up front.

Give me all the crap.

I mean, the airlines, they did the same thing.

They put the fees

until after.

Yep.

But it's really frustrating.

Anyway, long story short, I think people prefer the shrinkflation.

You think so?

Yeah.

I think when it comes down to it, they would say the opposite, but in reality,

would punish the stores if they just showed for the higher price.

That could be.

They do it.

There was a controversy about Oreos recently.

That's exactly where I was going.

Okay, yeah.

You know the details?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wasn't sure if it was true.

It is true.

It is.

They've shrunk

the cream inside.

That's what they shrunk.

Not the packaging.

Wow.

But the cream, which is, of course, cream,

you know, owning a

cookie company.

I'm kind of sensitive to that stuff now.

Yeah, because

the cream is hydrogenated vegetable oil.

Right.

That's not cream.

It's not cream?

No.

Uh-uh.

But I mean, it's mixed with high fructose corn syrup.

Okay.

Well, that makes it better.

Okay.

And soy lecithin

and something and something called vanillin, which I guess is an offshoot of vanilla.

I assume that's it.

It's not actually vanilla.

It's vanillin.

Vanillin.

Like a villain of vanilla?

Yes.

Vanillin.

It's the white superhero.

It's the white

villain in a superhero movie.

Vanillin.

Vanillin.

It does sound like that.

This is the new villain in the Black Panther series coming with vanilla.

Oh, no, it's vanilla.

So people have been taking off, you know, the top chocolate layer and showing how measly the cream inside is.

Wow, that's bad because that's screwing with your formula.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, it's one thing to, you know, give fewer cookies or even make the formula, like shrink everything down a little bit.

Like, you take a few percent off the cookies, a few percent, but make the ratio the same because that's what's key about Oreo.

And we've gone on with this.

We used to do a segment on Pat and Stew, the show we did together for years here on Plays TV, called Spoons.

And we would do the long story of why it was called Spoons, but there's no reason to go into that.

But I will say that like we would basically try.

a new kind of junk food every day.

Like when McDonald's has some new, you know, crazy thing on their menu, Taco Bell has a crazy thing on their menu, Oreo comes out with some new flavor.

We would try it and review it so you would be able to use your money wisely.

It was a weirdly popular segment.

Oh, people loved it.

Yeah.

We got to the point where we were doing it every day.

And after a while, it was really just an excuse to eat to eat food on the air.

Yeah.

But also, I realized I was gaining a lot of weight.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When you do it every day,

and then we would eat one Oreo and I'm like, we get off the air and we'd like eat five more.

And anyway, it was a bad decision.

Long story short, though,

one thing I discovered on that show was the

discovery of Oreo Finns.

Now,

why would you want want that?

Right.

Why would you?

That was my initial.

When you want that.

My uninformed take on Oreo thins.

That's my uninformed take.

Really?

Because you might not remember that.

Why would you want that?

They're thinner, smaller Oreos.

Why would you want that?

It's like the fun size that you get at Halloween.

That's not a fun size.

The fun size would be four times the normal amount.

Right.

Right.

Here, though, is my actual take

on Oreo thins, is they are actually superior to regular Oreos.

Really?

Yes.

And the reason why is all, it's all about the ratio, the ratio from cookie to cream.

Now, and you, as you point out, partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

Yes.

The ratio is far superior in the thins because the, yes, the cookies are a little bit like you, you're going to get less cookie.

If you're only going to have one Oreo,

you're going to get less food in your stomach if you have an Oreo thin.

However, number one, as we all know, when things are bite-sized, you eat more of them.

Oreo thins are not bite-sized, but they are thinner.

Well, I'm getting hardly any calories here, but then when you have 27 of them, and that's what you're going to do with Oreo thins, you're going to eat 27 of them.

And then, secondarily, the cookie, which I think everyone acknowledges with the Oreo, is not the highlight.

Everyone likes the cream.

You get the double, triple stuff.

You eat the cream out.

A lot of people just throw the cookies away.

And that's because there's nothing more delicious than hydrogenated vegetable oil.

And

high-fructose corn syrup.

That combination is.

And vanillin.

Yeah.

Vanillin.

Don't forget the vanilla.

Evil vanillin who

is coming to Waganda at any moment to take out Black Panther.

But

the situation is that they're

the ratio is incredible on those things.

Like it's you get them, it's a much more cream-based ratio

because the cookie's so thin.

So I can't recommend these things.

The lemon ones are delicious.

I can't recommend the thins more.

If you go to the store, get the thins and you'll have 12 of them and you'll just be like, well, they're thin, though.

It's a great argument to yourself in that moment.

When you're in the,

you got your hand in the cabinet and you're standing there kind of over.

And your wife starts nagging at you.

And you're like, you've already had some guy.

Give me a minute.

It's not good for you.

They are thins, vanilla.

Stop being a villain.

Right.

Right.

So I would recommend the thins, but that's different than this because when you screw with the ratio, then you're screwing with the product.

Oreo thins has to be a different product.

You couldn't just roll that out because it's a different ratio.

It's a different vibe completely.

It's not the overwhelming cookie taste.

You get more of the cream vibe and they're like a little crispy.

Now I really want Oreo Finns.

Does anyone have any?

I'm sure somebody in this building does.

Please bring the Oreo Finns immediately.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm just telling that.

That's just to the building.

That's important.

Please deliver them to the studio immediately if you have them.

But they are tasty cookies.

I think that was the point of this.

I think it is.

Are Oreo Finns tasty?

Is that how this started?

That's not exactly how it started.

It started with shrinkflation.

Okay, okay, that's right.

Yes, thank you.

But the shrinkage of the cream center, which is everybody's favorite, as you already pointed out,

that is really important.

When you start scrimping on that, you've really messed up the ratio, right?

Because you got far more of the chocolate cookie outside than you do the Oreo cream filling, the delicious hydrogenated vegetable oil.

And you don't want that.

You want that, you want it to be,

I don't know, what is that?

Half an inch thick at least.

So rather than shrinkflation, you should be doubling.

Like, and they do have Oreo double stuffed, right?

Uh, where they double the size of the cream in the middle.

Oh, they have not only that, they have um

more stuff, I think, and then the most stuff.

Have you seen the most stuff?

I have not.

The most stuff looks basically like if you ordered a quarter powdered with cheese, but the issue it was actually Oreos.

So, like, the buns were Oreo cookies, and in the middle, where the, where normally you'd see a quarter powdered with cheese and all the toppings, that's all cream.

I mean, they've gone over the top on it.

Yeah.

But good.

This is one of the things I love about capitalism.

That's right.

And Nabisco in particular, they will innovate.

And that's one of the things I love about you is that you don't make any bones about your unhealthy food choices.

Oh, I don't.

No, that's true.

You probably eat more unhealthy than any other vegetarian I've ever known.

Oh, I don't even think there's a contest on that.

I thought you were going to put me just in the general scope of humanity.

And then I think there's at least a conversation to be had whether I'm in last place or not.

Among vegetables.

When you include vegetarians, there's no question.

Yeah, nobody.

Like, food is good.

It's a delight of life.

Food is good.

Food is good.

It really is.

It's one of those things that can make you happy.

It is,

I love it.

And

it's delicious.

And capitalism has made it so much better.

There's so many options, so many incredible things out there for people to try and to experience.

And yet, what do we have in a society that's trying to reverse every aspect of capitalism?

Right.

Please don't.

Please don't.

And let me give you a choice between the hydrogenated vegetable oil cookie and a cookie that's made with absolutely no hydrogenated vegetables.

My understanding is the only way you can enjoy a cookie is with high fructose corn syrup.

No.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

That's not true.

We have neither in Kexi cookies.

They're just, they're gourmet.

They're delicious.

And on Black Friday, we're also going to release a chocolate peppermint bread that my wife has concocted.

Breads are delicious.

Oh, my gosh.

Wait till you try them.

I've got to get this from you.

My wife loves the peppermint stuff.

I've got to get that from you.

Get in on it early because once they're gone, there won't be any more being made until next year.

Can you make sure there's one set aside for me?

I mean, just standing right there.

Just guys, toss it on the side.

Okay.

Maybe.

We'll see.

We'll see how you are the next couple of days.

You know, like when we ever get approached in a park and the person's like, hey, oh my gosh, these two speakers fell out of the van and we've got them and they've got them for free.

They overstocked us with extra speakers.

Can you buy them from us in cash?

You ever had that moment?

You could do that with Kex.

You could, why?

You could be like, hey, this chocolate peppermint bread, it fell into my car.

I mean,

they're selling it for whatever on the website.

I'll give it to you for half price right now.

And you just pocket the cash.

Now, you are scamming your own company on that one.

Right, which is probably not a good idea.

But on Friday, we're also kicking off our biggest sale ever, 25% off.

So

get in on that.

And starting in December, we're going to have the cinnamon roll cookie, which I think it's between that and the Boston cream pie cookie now that are our best sellers of all time.

And then speaking of Oreo, we're going to have a peppermint Oreo type of cookie.

Oh, gosh.

And a polar bear, which is a peanut butter caramel cookie.

Really?

That's an interesting cut.

I got to try that one too.

Yeah.

All right.

Texi.com.

K-E-K-S-I.

I'm going to spend my entire salary on Texi cookies this

season.

I think that's a really good option to do it too.

Yeah.

Okay.

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Pat and Stew for Glenn today.

This is sort of a visual clip that we're about to play for you, but it was another one from Biden yesterday.

I mean,

he was so agonizing.

Well, he's agonizing every day.

But he was just at a lot of events that were recorded.

it's a good point.

That's really the difference here.

Yeah, it is.

And so he is at this campaign stop and

seems to notice a little girl, as he so often does.

And rather than sniff her hair, he comments on her ears, which is weird, yes.

But watch the expression.

Jill's in the background.

Watch the expression on her face and watch her turn to the Secret Service like, you've got to stop this guy.

Don't let him go up to that girl.

Or maybe it's just me.

Look at this.

Thank you, thank you.

And I love your ears.

I love them.

They're really cool.

What's your name?

Now she looks over at the Secret Service guy.

Hello.

That's my mommy's name.

Does somebody do something to you?

Nice to see.

How old are you?

17?

Six.

And that's another weird thing he does.

He overstates the age of the kids.

Yeah.

He seems almost funny.

It's almost wishful.

I hate to say it, but it just sounds like it's almost wishful.

It almost almost seems like he's like, hopefully she's above it.

If she's just 17, I'd start to date you.

Yeah.

He says that.

He actually says that real thing, right?

I think said something very similar.

Yeah.

I don't know if it was 17, but he said, if you were older.

If you were 13,

we could talk.

But since you're six, I'll leave you alone.

He doesn't message you on TikTok instead.

How creepy.

He is so creepy.

So her reaction there, yeah, she does look over at the Secret Service Agent like, yeah, are you going to do anything?

Yeah, watch this again.

Because it does seem that she's trying to send

a signal to the Secret Service guy.

And I love your ears.

I love them.

They're really cool.

What's your name?

She looks over now.

Are you going to do something?

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

I think that is why the lawyers are stopping.

I mean, any normal human being.

You can turn this off.

Any normal human being

would say, hear the phrase,

I want to look at your ears and just think immediately it should be stopped.

Whatever's happening should be stopped.

Right.

Unless he's an ear doctor.

Okay.

I want to look inside your ears.

Okay, that makes sense.

Yeah.

But he's not.

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