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Well, it happened.

Israel has agreed to a five-day

ceasefire with Hamas.

Be interesting to see if they've agreed.

It's a pause.

Yeah.

Yeah, they just pressed pause.

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You know, part of the unusual nature of this whole pause is that it was brokered by Qatar.

I don't think I've ever heard that before.

Where Qatar was a main player in any negotiation for anybody ever.

Maybe I've just missed it.

I don't know.

Usually, it's usually us, a soccer free agent signing.

I could see it in that

context.

Maybe that.

That's about it.

Yeah.

But it does kind of show our exit from the prominence of the world stage,

I think.

I mean,

we had some involvement in it, but it's Qatar who really brokered this thing.

Well, I mean,

when you're trying to find a partner to help broker a deal like this, you need to find someone that both sides respect, right?

We just read the poll of the Palestinian people that 98.2% of them have a negative opinion of America.

Yeah.

You know,

and look, should we,

would you be excited if we were negotiating with Hamas?

No.

No.

In reality, probably not.

Probably not.

So, I mean, maybe that's the reason.

I do.

And it's kind of irritating that we probably pushed Israel into this.

Yep.

That much I'm sure we did.

Now, they might be getting,

and I have real hesitation in

reporting this the way the news has been reporting it, which is they're going to get 50 hostages back.

We'll see.

Yeah.

We'll see.

Supposed to be released 10 at a time over five days.

Yes.

So So we'll see if that actually adds up to 50.

One of the things they're already saying is, well, we don't know if we could find them.

We don't know if we can find the hostages.

You know, it's not like we kept them together in a big room.

That's something unacceptable.

Yeah,

I'd say.

Well, they're not all Hamas.

They weren't all captured by Hamas.

What do you mean?

Oh, well, sometimes there were

family crime organizations that just went over there and went to loot.

really unrelated to the murders and just took people to try to make money off of it.

We got to find those people.

It's going to be hard for us over here at Hamas Industries.

It's like, okay, we shut up.

Give the people back right now.

It does show that there was a lot of Palestinian involvement, though.

Just rank-and-file Palestinians going into Israel and taking people hostage.

Yeah.

And stealing things from them.

Oftentimes, Pat, when we talk about foreign countries or foreign lands, we tend to overgeneralize.

Like, we could say the French suck, right?

Yeah.

And it's it's like, look, tons of people in France are pro-American.

Tons of people in France are not completely insane.

Their general policies and their government annoy us a lot.

And we summarize it poorly, maybe.

I don't know.

If you're in France and you love America and you're listening to this program, we love you.

However, in the Palestinian territories,

just

looking at the polling, it's impossible to

be able to

oversimplify oversimplify their views on Western life and Jews in particular,

they hate America.

And I don't mean when I say they, yes, of course there are people there that don't hate America.

There are people from America who live in the Palestinian territories.

A full 1.8%.

It's very dumb.

Right.

Don't hate America.

But it's 1.8%.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, what is the 1.8% here that we would talk about?

There's not a lot of things when you talk about ideological or issue agreement agreement that only 1.8% sides on one

on which you could find 98.2% agreement from Americans.

This does not have 98.2% agreement, but approval rating of Hamas was only 1%.

But it was only 81% disapproved.

So there's still a big chunk of people who don't know either way.

I don't know what you'd find.

That's crazy.

I don't even know.

What would you find?

I don't know.

You look at the

one guy I remember getting somewhat close to this was the very end of the gubernatorial campaign

reign of Rod Boglojevich.

Remember him from Illinois?

He had like a 4% approval rating at one point at the end.

4%.

So occasionally it can happen.

It's hard, though.

It is hard to

unify a society like that.

And one of the reasons it never happens in America is despite our complaints about the indoctrination of children and such, we still have constitutional constitutional protections that don't allow for the types of things, you know, for example, holding people at gunpoint until they agree,

that elicit a 98%

unanimity.

We've got much more diversity here of population than they do in Gaza.

Very true.

Much more.

Much more dangerous.

So it's really hard to get everybody on the same page.

You wouldn't think that by listening to the news.

You'd think that Gaza's the diverse.

Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?

You'd think that they are

the rainbow coalition.

Yeah.

And we are the haters.

People forget that all the time.

Is there a more diverse nation than the United States of America anywhere in the world?

I don't think so.

Let me add one more word to that.

Ever?

Yeah, in the history of the world.

In the history of the world.

Yeah.

You think China is diverse?

No.

Russia, are they diverse?

Norway?

Norway.

Norway is diverse?

No.

They're not.

No.

It's not usually that diversity.

And now that they are seeing some diversity with some of the refugees and some of the immigrants there, they're having real societal problems right now.

I mean, really serious problems.

And so that's why I get so annoyed with people who continually

bash America because we're this or we're that, we're hateful, we're not inclusive, we're not diverse.

We're the most diverse on the planet.

And we get along the best with this kind of diverse population.

It's pretty amazing, really.

If you really stop to think about what happens happens in this country and

who this country is made up of, it's an amazing, it's a miracle, really, that we all get along this well.

Yeah.

It's a miracle.

You know, we complain about, oh, gosh, we're all turning against each other.

And in comparison to the rest of the world, in comparison to history,

we're doing pretty well.

Yeah.

You know, one of the things that we talk about all the time when we talk about issues that are negative, and

a lot of people in the media, a lot of people on the left like to leave this one little question out at the end of all of your complaints.

But you have to ask yourself, as compared to what?

What are you comparing this to?

Are you comparing this to some fake utopia that has never existed and probably will not exist?

Or are you comparing this to every other nation in world history?

Because if you compare us to every other nation in world history, look, things are pretty good.

We complain a lot about the country and the negatives because we see things that are great slipping away.

And we don't want to see those things slip away.

We want to see America achieve all the things that it should be achieving.

But in reality, of course, when you compare it to, none of us are like, I don't have plans to go to Outer Mongolia this weekend to see if I can find a condo to move into because I don't like America.

I really don't have interest in that.

There's no other place on earth that I want to live.

I love it here.

It's great.

I just don't want it to

sink away.

Right.

That's all.

So, will Hamas release the 50 hostages over the next five days?

And the other thing is, they're doing that in exchange for the pause in

sort of a ceasefire and 150 Palestinian

hostages, or not hostages, but people who are imprisoned in Israel being released.

So,

three times the number.

Of course.

Last time Israel uh had a hostage with uh in gaza the i believe it was 120 to one oh geez so this is they're improving at least

yeah but what happened to the whole the the uh the response has to be equal every time we go into war we always hear oh it has to be a proportionate response what happens to that with with hostages yeah why it doesn't have to be proportionate then no one's complaining why aren't they why is gaza getting a disproportionate amount of of

and again hostages is the wrong word there's no hostages being held by Israel in this way.

They are people who have committed crimes and have been convicted of crimes in courts and are in prison.

Those are the people being released, which is questionable, right?

Like a lot of times it's not a good idea to release prisoners, but I guess these are mostly children or not children, teenagers, and

women.

They're being promoted as children, even though they've committed crimes in Israel.

Right.

And that's why they're in jail.

Yes.

So Israel's releasing criminals who have been convicted in a court of law and have been put in.

Three times as many.

Three times as many in exchange for people who have been ripped out of their homes after doing absolutely nothing wrong and watched their families get slaughtered.

Right.

And now they're prisoners over in Gaza.

It's not proportionate.

What happened to the asking of the proportionate response?

We don't get that now.

Yeah, you're not going to see a lot of signs from the pro-Palestinian people.

You will not.

Hey, you're doing it disproportionately on this hostage exchange.

Yeah, you're not going to see that.

So,

the articles on this have been fascinating to me.

Here, listen to this paragraph, for instance.

Israel has placed Gaza under siege and relentless bombardment since the Hamas attack, which killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians, according to Israeli tallies.

Mostly, it was almost all civilians.

Since then, more than 14,000 Gazans have been killed, around 40% of them children, according to medical officials in the Hamas-ruled territory, figures deemed reliable by the United Nations.

That's kind of a problem because I don't deem the United Nations reliable to tell me what's reliable

from Gaza.

All the children were safe, according to reliable sources like Jeffrey Dahmer.

Okay, I don't trust Jeff.

I don't think he's angry.

He's reliably told us, though.

But it's interesting how

the women and children are always pointed out in the Gaza Tally.

But have you noticed that nobody in these stories ever cites how many of the 1,200 Israelis were brutally murdered that were women and children?

Right.

Babies, I mean, at the very beginning, we heard there were 40 babies that were decapitated.

But in the follow-up stories, you never hear, and by the way, most of those were women and children.

Never.

No.

And, you know, look,

a country that is trying to commit genocide, that

wants to lie to everyone and make them believe

that

Hamas did these terrible things that they didn't do does not lower the death count from 1,400 to 1,200.

That does not happen.

Right.

And, you know, we talked about this a little bit the other day, but like it appears that what basically has happened is some of these people were Hamas terrorists.

They found 1,400 people dead and over the process of identifying the bodies, realized that some of them have been taken out by citizens.

And they didn't, and they found out, okay, these people are actually from Hamas.

We're not going to count them toward our death count.

What nation does that that is trying to fool people into a genocide?

Nobody.

Like, there wasn't like the Hut, the Hutu, the Tutsis and the Hutus.

I'm going back to Rwandan history here a a little bit, but like, they were like, oh, hey, you know what?

Actually, you know what?

We didn't really do anything wrong and everything's fine.

Like, that's not what happens.

Like, they don't say, well, actually, the death count was a few thousand less than we originally reported.

We want to make sure we get these facts right.

You know, the cockroaches that we need to go murder right now, they really didn't do anything to us that was as bad as originally described.

And we want to make sure we're clear about that.

That doesn't happen.

And the number wasn't 1 million.

It was only 945,000.

Yeah.

So, you don't see that.

No, it doesn't happen.

So

it's pretty, when you're on the victim side, right?

Like when you're on the, when you're, when you're, of course, on the side doing the murdering, you try to lower the numbers all the time.

But when you're on the side of the victims, you don't lower that count.

It's the, it's, everyone's telling Israel they have to stop these operations because they've killed more people than were killed in their country.

First of all, that's never the standard.

We did certainly did that in World War II.

We are very guilty of all sorts of crimes when you think about how many people we killed in World War II than were killed on our soil.

It's a massive, massive difference.

Huge delta there.

But that had nothing to do with the truth.

The truth was that we were attacked and we got in with

incredibly just reasoning and executed a war that absolutely needed to be fought.

Yeah.

And the fact that the standard is not, all right, we're going to stop when we get to the number of people that you killed on our side.

That's ridiculous.

Psychotic.

That's insane.

Yeah, that's not what you do.

You go for the military objectives so that this can, so the violence can stop eventually.

Yeah.

That's what you do in war.

And that's what Israel is doing now.

And that's what they should do.

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The other thing about this hostage situation is apparently it's female hostages that will be released on both sides.

It's women.

Both sides and children.

Yeah, women and children.

Quote, children.

Right.

And that's why, I mean, there's still going to be 200 more hostages that need to be released.

And I think it only included three Americans out out of the, I believe, 20 that have been taken hostage.

So

we got a long way to go.

And what they will do, apparently, is they'll extend the pause another day for every 10 hostages that are released.

Okay.

So this could go on further.

Good.

We'll see.

Look, if

there is no conversation to have about a ceasefire when one of the suicides is holding a bunch of hostages like this, that's not a conversation to even have.

If they will return these hostages, look, you'll delay

what's going on.

That doesn't mean you leave Hamas in power.

It's nothing like that.

But if you can wait a week and get yourself shored up and also wind up with these citizens back in Israel so that they can hopefully not only go back to their homes in Israel, but also go back to their homes in Thailand and the United States and all the other areas that

they've taken citizens from.

It's worth it.

I don't think anybody opposes that.

But like, there's no conversation to be had.

We keep talking about this.

Like, oh, we want a ceasefire.

The left comes out and they go, well, they want to see, we want to ceasefire.

Okay, well, I don't know.

Number one, you don't have a ceasefire until hostages are returned.

Return the hostages, then we'll talk about a ceasefire.

Number two,

let's ask Hamas if they want a ceasefire because they don't seem to really want one.

They keep firing rockets into Israel.

And if they stop, let's see.

What do you think is going to happen here, Pat?

They're going to get one day into this, and rockets are going to start flying again from Gaza.

And then Israel will resume their siege of Gaza and they'll be the ones at fault.

Yep.

They'll be the ones buying.

You know, and it's war.

I don't like war.

I don't want war, but it happens.

And

they're pretty justified, I believe, in this war.

And so war is ugly.

You know, war is not fun.

And war is not proportional.

When you fight a proportional war, you lose.

Israel knows that.

Israel understands that if they do this on a proportional basis, they're going to continue to face these attacks that they just had happen on October 7th.

And it's going to be probably worse.

I'll bet you Hamas is planning attacks right now.

That are as big, if not bigger, than what just happened.

Yep.

And let us all be reminded that proportional response does not mean dropping a bomb and killing 1,400 or 1,200 people.

And then you're done.

What a proportional response would be is raping, murdering, decapitating, putting people in ovens,

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And we're too close to Thanksgiving for me to go through all the freaking horror show that happened in Israel.

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And there's no argument that Israel would ever do any of those things as a policy.

Nope.

Of of course not, and they shouldn't.

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Elon Musk, richest man on earth, is

suing Media Matters.

They're doing a big boycott of him.

They're trying to get advertisers off of X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it.

And so

this could be a pretty good battle right now.

They were talking about this on MSNBC.

And

is this the head of Media Matters?

I think so, yeah.

Okay.

And here's what they had to say.

Ando, this is your first interview since Musk threatened to take legal action against you.

I must say against your company.

Thank God.

Wait, wait, wait.

Hold on, stop for a second.

What's your responsibility?

Why, thank God.

I don't understand.

Does the anchor have some sort of personal connection here?

He must be emotionally invested in the guy.

Really is.

In his company.

What a strange setup for an interview.

Is this a good friend?

Like, that's how I'd interview you.

Like, I'd be like, hey, Pat, they're coming after your company.

And not you personally, thank God.

But that's how I would say, like, you'd say it to a good friend.

Great journalists.

Right.

So.

Yeah, but

you'd say to someone you have a personal connection.

I mean, maybe...

Who knows?

Obviously, I don't even know who these two people are, but maybe they're, they are good friends.

Maybe they've been hanging out for a long time.

It just has a weird appearance from an outsider's perspective of like, well, I mean, good for you.

I mean, I guess

someone at MSCBC likes you, but it's an odd, it's an odd setup for an interview.

Very, but there's more.

Thank God.

What's your response to this?

I mean, I think that the thing to keep in mind is that

it's not really clear what his cause of action is.

And I think the most important thing is that in his response, in that legal threat, he actually confirmed that our reporting was accurate.

That is not the same thing.

This does not actually exist on the platform.

This is not the thing to keep in mind.

That is not exactly.

That is 100% not the thing to keep in mind.

That is the thing.

Because it's not a thing he said.

Right.

Hey, you know what?

It's really accurate.

Yeah.

But I'm going to sue them anyway.

Right.

Because I don't think that was them.

That was not the tone of his response.

That was the whole

purpose of what he's trying to do here.

If you haven't followed this story, by the way, so Elon Musk is suing him, them

because they released this report that basically said all these advertisers are getting white supremacist messages all the time.

So they accused him of this.

What they did to get

to get this information.

Now, look, media matters, in my view, just makes stuff up all the time.

So this might be, this is

above, above their normal standards.

But what they did was create a bunch of fake accounts, then follow

a bunch of white supremacist accounts that they could find on the service.

So, acting like a white supremacist, they went on, they followed a bunch of white supremacists, and then they still didn't get the results they wanted.

So, what they did was Jen refresh hundreds of times to see if they could get on the same screen one of the advertisers from a big company and some white supremacists.

So, this is not how the system normally works.

It is kept refreshing and refreshing and refreshing.

Now, of course, Elon Musk knows this because

he could tell what these accounts were doing.

He could see it.

At least this is what he claims.

And so when you go down that road, they're completely manipulating the website into an unnatural state to try to get it to get these results.

It is not at all what they describe.

What about the thing we should keep in mind, though, that Elon Musk himself admitted.

That what they were saying was accurate.

That's true.

That's not.

What about that part of it?

That is not.

You conveniently glossed over that.

I just told you exactly how they came to that conclusion, and it's completely absurd.

Unbelievable.

But this is what they do.

This is who they are.

Yeah, it's like, you know, you've seen some of these stories that happen with Chat GPT, where people will go on and ask it crazy questions, and you read the story, and it's like, it took them 45 minutes to manipulate ChatGPT into saying something offensive, and then they brag about it in a story.

Well, good for you.

Like, so what?

Really?

Is that something you should be proud of?

The little parlor trick you came up with to try to make your enemy look bad?

Congratulations.

Like, what an amazing accomplishment.

And, of course, we're talking about generally, you know, vagrant shut-ins that they've hired or they're doing this work.

So you'd assume it wouldn't be any better than this.

But still, it's pathetic.

You got like 38-year-old guys in their parents' basement sitting there in their underwear trying to come up with stuff.

Yeah.

Chat GPT or listening to broadcasts so they can make something out of it.

You know, this is what Media Matters does.

And they've been doing it forever, right?

Like, you know, you wind up creating a bunch of bizarre, stalkerish obsessives over conservative media personalities, and they sit there and obsess over every word and try to take everything they say out of context.

I mean, we, you know, we did this a while ago.

This is when a fill-in show on this program, Pat.

You might not even remember this.

It was years ago.

And

you and I were hosting a show, and it was Keith Olbermann, who was one of the big liberal personalities at the time.

I don't know if he's still

with us.

I'm not sure.

But

he, at the time was a big media personality.

And at the time, there was some mass shooting, I think.

And liberals were doing the typical thing that they do where they blame conservatives for it.

And we pointed out there was another mass shooting that no one was covering, of course.

Why?

Because the person was liberal.

And they were echoing many of the sentiments that Keith Olberman says

on a day-to-day basis on his, I think, MSNBC show at the time.

I don't remember which one of his 46 firings we were in the middle of at that time.

And

we came out and we said dead serious.

I mean, we did do it, dead serious.

We were like, look,

look at this.

This is something.

This is a quote from Keith Olbermann.

It's the exact same thing this guy's saying.

He inspired this attack.

This is, the blood is on the hands of Keith Olbermann.

And we went through this like, I don't know, two-minute rant about how Keith Olberman was responsible for this mass shooting.

Then we paused for about two seconds and then said, by the way, obviously everything we said in the last two minutes is completely ridiculous.

You can't blame Keith Olberman for this.

He's just a liberal commentator.

And this guy might have been liberal, but it has nothing to do with these commentators.

That would be completely ridiculous to do this.

Well, Media Matters got that audio and just cut out the part where we said it was completely ridiculous.

They literally just stopped the transcript and the audio.

Which was the whole reason for doing it.

Right, the whole first place.

Yep.

And tried to make it look like we were blaming Keith Olberman for mass shootings and then posted it on their site.

Now, we railed on them so hard for this.

And we had, obviously, the the evidence.

Everybody who was listening to the show heard us say, by the way, this is ridiculous.

We're just making a point here.

And so they did eventually retract that, which is the only time I can ever remember them retracting anything.

It's just, it's such a terrible organization.

But it was funny, and this is the type of stuff that they do all the time to everyone.

Look, I don't think they achieve very much for the left, but they do attempt to try to get advertisers to quit shows and do all these things with tactics that are pathetic.

And look, it's one thing to fire up a couple of talk show hosts over it.

It's another thing to get a guy who's worth $100 billion pissed off at you.

Because guess what?

Elon Musk has a lot more money than all of your donors.

And he can keep coming for you.

And he will.

I think he will.

I hope he does.

He may very well do the Peter Thiel type of thing.

And drive him out of business.

And drive him out of business.

Now, look,

they'll appear somewhere else and they'll, you know,

they'll change the name and they'll do the same crap.

Obviously, we all know that.

But this is the type of thing that actually,

this guy's coming on TV and being like, oh, well, we did everything right and we're not worried about it.

Bull crap, they're not worried about it.

They're terrified of this because they know Elon Musk has that twitchy eye.

He's one of those guys that, you know, he just might make this his life's work.

He might just give up on the spaceship thing and decide to put this place out of business.

Yeah.

Because he's so pissed off about this.

And he's got the resources to do it.

And this is why, you know, this is one of the reasons why the left hates billionaires because they can't be controlled like everybody else.

You know, you can't just threaten them,

try to cancel them, but get them thrown out of their accounting job like the

person.

They don't have an accounting job.

They don't have an accounting job.

They can just go, they can just say, screw you.

They don't even have an income usually.

It's capital gains that they live off.

Yep.

Which is why people hate capital gains so much.

Yeah.

But

it'll be interesting to see how far this goes.

Yeah.

Let's listen to more of this.

This is fun.

Is that the platform is so saturated with extremism, with white genocide, with anti-Semitism, racism, really with conspiracy theories, things that otherwise should be managed in some way.

Okay, stop.

Again, what about, was there any pro-Hamas stuff on the site?

Was there any question that maybe they should look at that?

Was there?

I don't know.

It seems like there's a lot of on the internet, a lot of crazy things on the left, too.

And by the way, I do not put white genocide on the right.

That's a false narrative, of course, and a false construct.

But there's plenty of stuff that goes on on the left that is crazy, and people post a lot of crazy stuff on the internet.

Like, everyone knows this.

This is not, you're not, I know your 943 refreshes told you an amazing story that you had to report,

but in reality, everyone knows.

Everybody knows that crazy crap comes on the internet.

And come on.

It's not like Twitter X is a big conservative hotbed.

You've got all kinds of liberal, progressive garbage on Twitter.

It's not true.

It's social.

Right.

There's a wide diversity of views.

And look, I don't know.

I didn't create an account and follow a bunch of white genocide accounts to attempt to get this type of material, but I don't see it.

Do you?

No.

I mean, you can search it out and find it, but like my feed isn't filled with that stuff at all.

My feed is filled with people that I think are either interesting or important in some way or just have an interesting perspective or say something funny every once in a while.

Like, I don't know.

know, like I have no problem with that at all.

I don't see any of that material unless it's somebody highlighting how bad it is.

You know, I mean, that's the only time I ever see it.

You can control your experience and they all know that.

This is why the funny thing about Media Matters is like, it's, it's talked about as an organization that tries to, you know, hurt conservative hosts.

And of course they do try to do that.

But it's important to understand this is a secondary goal, right?

Like, yes, they are going to take things out of context and lie to try to get conservative hosts thrown off the air.

Of course.

But the

primary thing that's going on here is a grift of liberals.

Like, what they're doing is going to rich liberals and telling them they're making a difference that they're not making.

And they keep going back to these people who just keep funneling money to

the people that run the organization.

I mean, if you look at this clip, gosh, for a guy who runs a nonprofit, he's in a nice house.

It's a big room he's sitting in.

I mean, like,

I mean, I know they probably pay their minions $4 an hour to do this work, but like, apparently it's at the top.

It's pretty nice gig.

And these liberals who get excited about like, I don't like Glenn Beck, I don't like Rush Limbaugh, I don't like Tucker Carlson, whoever the person is they're targeting that week, they get excited about it because they're big names.

They have these splashy reports that MSNBC reads like their transcripts.

You know, they just read their reporting right off the website and put it on the air.

And they act like that's doing something.

But I have never, I don't know one conservative who has ever been affected business-wise by media matters.

Like they brag about these things and are like, well, we got both Ferrari and Bugatti to stop advertising on the Glenn Beck program.

It's like, well, we didn't have Ferrari.

We didn't have those.

We would welcome Ferrari and Bugatti, but they are not interested

in advertising on conservative advances.

I love that idea.

There was so much of that

during the Fox News time period, where we got 237 advertisers to stop advertising with Glenn Beck we never had 237 advertisers I wish we had 237 but like we never had them great people don't like this that much Mercedes doesn't even advertise with him anymore Glenn did that

one hurt and so they do these things and they they manipulate their stupid donors into giving them millions of dollars so they can buy nice houses.

Yeah.

And it's just, I mean, look,

as a grift, it's not, it's a good idea.

It's a nice little play.

And you give them some credit, like in the way that you give the mob credit for, wow, that was a good strategy to take over the waste management business.

And that way you could deposit the bodies right there as you throw away the trash.

Smart.

In that way, it's smart.

But it is a fascinating thing that stupid liberal donors continue to fall for this.

At some point, you think they just wake up.

I mean, I don't know.

They haven't been nearly as relevant in recent years.

So maybe they haven't.

Yeah, you don't hear about them as much.

That's true.

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So are you going to be hanging around this

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have the kids come over and

you know, like usual?

Yeah.

Jackie's a home person, a wonderful cook, chef.

Yes.

So maybe I can stop by, grab some stuff,

afternoon-ish.

Sure.

What's a good time for you for me to come by?

Like 11:30 p.m.

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I feel like I might get shot.

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Yeah, just take all days.

Yeah, all of them.

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It gets hard because you feel some sort of, I don't know, as an American, I feel some sort of like requirement to watch every game that's on TV.

Like if there's a game on, you kind of have to watch it.

At least that's how I feel.

And so when they do a Thursday night game and you're like, okay, these are the two worst teams in the league.

It's Thursday night.

Like there's no relevance to this whatsoever.

And I still don't know.

That's okay.

I'm going to watch it anyway.

Yeah, I'm going to still watch it anyway.

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Jackie hates it, but I love it.

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It just feels like Thanksgiving.

And on Thanksgiving, especially, like, you know, yeah, of course, you're maybe not tuning into every single play as you normally would on a Sunday.

Yeah.

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So Ron DeSantis has picked up a couple of really big endorsements in Iowa.

First of all, he got, I think this was last week, he got Kim Reynolds, the governor of Iowa.

She's very popular.

He got her endorsement.

It's a big one.

And now he just picked up yesterday Bob Vanderplatz.

Okay.

Big evangelical in Iowa that's very popular.

And he's behind Ron DeSantis.

I didn't realize he, I kind of thought he was supporting him already.

I didn't realize he had not endorsed him.

Yeah, hadn't

He's a big figure.

We've had him on the show before.

He's a staple on Steve Dace's show as well on Bolice TV.

Really smart guy.

Dace, I believe, is also endorsed DeSantis.

He's endorsed DeSantis.

Yeah, both of those guys are super tuned into Iowa politics.

Like if you want to learn about Iowa politics and understand the on-the-ground stuff, both of those guys talking, you'll get a lot out of that.

Bob Vanderplatz

really is tied in.

He knows what's going on there, and that's fascinating.

What do you think about endorsements?

Do they make a big difference?

Will this help him get over the top in Iowa?

He's got a long way to get to the top.

There are a few that matter.

I think the Reynolds, I mean, I think Bob is big as far as the inner workings of what goes on in Iowa politics, especially as it ties to the caucus, right?

Like he's a big organizer.

He knows that stuff really well.

So in some ways, it's not as splashy.

as some endorsements you might seem,

but it is a big endorsement for Ron

to land.

And Kim Reynolds is very popular.

It's certainly not going to hurt.

I think it's been a few weeks since the Reynolds thing.

I haven't seen any movement in the polls

really from it.

But it is important.

One of the things you get from endorsements, and this is the only reason I think long-term they really matter, is you, well, money is a big part of it.

That's true.

I was going to go to the...

It gives you a sense of what the party mechanics are doing.

When you get a bunch of people lining up behind a candidate, you realize that things behind the scenes can be moved, donors can be moved, supporters can be moved.

That's an important element.

Rule, you see this with Biden right now.

Like he's changing the rules so that he doesn't have a primary, right?

And that's a real extreme example.

But these things can happen

often where,

you know, certain groups can be influenced and changed all behind the scenes.

It's not necessarily like, well, I heard Kim Reynolds is voting for Rod DeSantis, so I'm going to vote for Ron DeSantis.

That's not really the way typically

endorsements work.

Now, like an endorsement, for example, from someone like, let's say, Donald Trump.

Donald Trump decides he's going to leave the race for whatever reason, and he throws his weight behind

Vivek Ramaswamy.

Would that make a big difference?

Yes, it would make a big difference for Vivek.

His endorsements in primaries have been pretty meaningful, especially in close primaries.

Of course, Trump overstates the value at times of

his endorsements, but some of them have been very valuable and it can turn a close.

I mean, the Dr.

Oz one would would be maybe the biggest example of this.

Like, there's no way Dr.

Oz would have won that primary without Donald Trump's endorsement.

And he wound up winning a very close primary and then, of course, losing to John

John Fetterman.

Fabulous.

In the general election.

And so that one may be not a great example of it working out all that well in the end, but he did win the primary for Dr.

Oz.

I don't think there's any question he won that primary.

So I don't think that was a good thing, by the way.

Just as kind of a side trip here

on the Fetterman issue, he's been amazing on Israel.

What the hell is going on?

I don't even understand it.

How is it possible that he's been so strong on Israel?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know.

He has.

Look, this is something the left will never do.

They never do this, but we will do it because we will be honest.

John Fetterman has been really good on this issue.

He has been really good on this issue.

He has.

He shouldn't be in office.

No.

He's still terrible.

He's still incompetent.

He should still be removed immediately on his own accord.

He should just walk out and say, guys, I can't do this.

Go take care of your health at home.

Go do that.

But he has been, and he stood up for Israel.

And he's, I would say, quite a bit.

Really strong.

I mean, if we're going to be really,

should we be really uncomfortable here?

Okay.

Can I, can I make, can I do something that will, if it was any other day, but the day before Thanksgiving, end my career in this particular medium?

You know who else has not been bad?

Is Hillary Clinton on this issue.

She has multiple times

come out.

Now you've gone too far.

Okay, now you've just ruined it.

Now,

you just.

Did you hear her explanation to the view, the dunces on the view about what was going on in Israel?

I think I did.

It was eight straight minutes of her explaining actually all the things you're saying are wrong and

explaining how many times they had been offered a state of their own and how many times they had been offered.

She did go through that.

She went through the whole history of it.

And I would say

80% of it was stuff you could hear on this show.

Like it was

amazing.

How did did I miss that?

I don't know.

Again, I think because

one of my producers saw it and, like, I'm not going to show it to him.

He might say it was good, and then he's going to ruin our careers.

This is why he saved this stuff for the day before Thanksgiving.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Come on.

All the executives are out of town.

They won't care.

But really, we shouldn't have to do that.

I should take credit where credit is due.

I'm okay with that.

I know.

And look, she would have been a terrible president.

I can't stand Hillary Clinton for a million different reasons.

She's not, but she's terrible.

But she has been actually, she wrote an op-ed that was,

again, not.

I wouldn't write the exact op-ed op-ed.

I wouldn't have explained Israel the exact same way, but honestly, it was pretty darn good.

Certainly better than the mainstream media is doing on this issue.

And that's embarrassing for the mainstream media.

It is.

And I have to bash the mainstream media just so I can now keep my job after saying Hillary Clinton did a good job on something.

But I mean, it is, I will say, like.

It's a weird issue because we are now at the place where the left has, the Democratic Party has become so insane that you can usually summarize issues by just saying they're totally wrong on

every aspect of this, and it's not even worth considering their opinion.

Israel is one of the very few issues where some Democrats are moderately sane.

They're not completely nuts every time on this issue,

but they're very few and far between at this point.

So again, my praise for both John Petterman and Hillary Clinton is incredibly limited, and I'd like to be employed on Monday.

And one of the reasons is they have a lot of Jewish constituents.

I think that is a big deal.

Yeah.

I mean, like Chuck Schumer, is he going to come out against Israel?

Yeah.

You better not.

Another person.

Another person.

While not.

Well, yeah.

Let's just keep rolling the dice here with the careers here, Pat.

Another person who's been pretty good on this is Amy Schumer.

She's been standing up and saying, again, like, this is obviously very important to her.

She's an idiot on 99% of issues.

But again,

it was very hard for her to take a stance.

I am sure she's been hammered by all of her crazy liberal supporters, all of which, you know, she probably deserves because she's cultivated a bunch of idiots in her audience.

However, like, you know, to come out as a celebrity and say, hey.

Like, this is, I'm not going to back off of this.

Like, you just murdered 1,200 people.

Right.

And that is unusual for them.

That's unusual.

They don't usually take a stand.

Yeah.

This is one of those issues that's not as boilerplate as every other one.

You know, everyone is, there's this unified idiocy on the left.

And this is like, at this point, it's like only half idiocy.

They're not all, it's, everybody on the left is not Elon Omar on this issue or AOC or, God forbid, Rashida Talib.

Right.

There are some people who will still say, even though they'll throw out, I mean, you know, Biden, I will not give it as much credit as some of these other people, though he's had some good statements on Israel.

Yeah, but he's also.

He's kind of deluded yes.

And he used to see the

state solution nonsense in the ceasefire talk.

And you could see him walking away.

You know, one of the scary, this is, we normally would come on the air and tell you, hey,

this is a bad poll for Joe Biden.

That's good news because none of us want Joe Biden to continue being president.

However, this most recent poll, if you care about Israel, is mixed news.

Because yes, his poll numbers are bad.

They're the worst they have been, according to the NBC News poll.

But the erosion there is not from conservatives or independents.

The erosion is from liberals and mainly young liberals because they hate his Israel stance.

And his Israel stance is, if anything else, is just kind of walking the line between Israel and Palestine, or Palestinians.

I'm not going to praise that opinion.

But what I would say is that

Joe Biden has no principles on this stuff.

Like he doesn't, he'll go, he's been in the center of the Democratic Party for 50 years.

He moves wherever that center is, that's where he is.

When it was the era of small government is over, you can go back and find some pretty good statements from Joe Biden on various things.

He's the guy who wrote the crime bill, Mr.

Tough on Crime, when it was cool to be tough on crime.

He'll go wherever the wind goes in the Democratic Party.

He has no principles on this stuff.

And the fact that the wind is now blowing to a place not to support Israel, to instead be much more favorable to the Hamas position here is not a positive.

No, it makes it scary.

It's positive for his reelection hopes.

But what he will probably do is move to where those polls are going.

And that's not positive globally, in my view.

Yeah.

It's interesting because

this is a complex situation for Democrats and for celebrities, you know, Amy Schumer.

Susan Sarandon just got in some trouble

because of her statements on Israel.

What she said was, now Jews are getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America.

Oh, God.

What?

What are you talking about?

This is so bizarre.

It's unreal.

So she just got dropped by her talent agency.

Which is, again, you know, the cancel culture thing, if you want to throw that, you want to include this in cancel culture, usually only hits right-wing opinions.

Right.

In this particular issue, it's not the same.

Like, the, the woman who, and I don't know who she is, I did not see either of these.

I'm sure they were fabulous, but Scream 5 and Scream 6.

Yeah.

You remember the Scream, you know, had Drew Barrymore in the first one.

Yeah.

So it's been a long time.

They've been releasing sequels, I guess, apparently every six months or whatever they do with these movies.

And whoever is the star of this movie, I don't know her have her name off the top of my head.

She wrote some pro-Palestinian stuff, said Israel was committing genocide and all these things.

She's been dropped from Scream 7.

Oh, wow.

Again, this isn't normal behavior for Hollywood.

You have not.

If you say, I want to kill every baby in the womb that is possible,

you are going to be a superstar in Hollywood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is going to be totally fine.

You'll be praised forevermore.

Yeah.

If you want to say, I want all

little

young boys to be in girls' locker rooms, you're going to be fine.

If you want to say, you could say any controversial opinion and be completely fine in Hollywood, with this one exception, right?

Like

there are still a lot of Democrats who feel like, hey, maybe we shouldn't execute all Jews.

And that's nice to say.

There's also a lot of Jewish producers in Hollywood.

You know?

I can't believe.

Are you saying Jews run Hollywood?

No.

Is that what you're saying?

I'm saying some of the heads of the studios are in fact Jewish.

And as you point out, you got Steven Spielberg's, you got, you know, a bunch of guys who everybody knows are Jewish.

So hopefully they're not going to be friendly to things like, you know, Miss

Scream 7,

talking about genocide of Jews.

And look, even though when you look at the profile, we did a, we, we covered a poll of Jewish voters here that was from, I think it was,

I think it was May.

It was before October 7th, though.

And we looked at the profile of those viewers, of those voters.

And there's, you know, obviously Jewish voters can be broken into several different categories.

And, you know, the Orthodox category, let me take that aside for a moment because the Orthodox category, you would, would, would react in the way a lot of conservatives would, right, to these issues.

They're more conservative on almost all issues.

They are very interested in what happens in Israel.

When you go to the 80% of Jews that do not fall into that category, what you find is among the most liberal voters in our society, you find people who are supporting abortion at 80% and 90%.

You find them supporting almost every liberal cause imaginable.

Even Israel, where they are more conservative than other AOC-type liberals,

what you get

with these polls is showing that Israel is one of their lowest priorities.

That is poll.

They are more interested in almost every issue.

It's only like 5% or 6% of liberal Jewish voters consider Israel to be a top issue.

So while they don't want Israel wiped off the planet, of course, it's not a big central focus of their life.

Now, it becomes more of a central focus of their life when their relatives are being murdered by Hamas and Israel.

So I would assume that poll has changed a little bit.

But you see that there are some, this is an important constituency for Democrats.

This is not like

we talk about how they pander to all these different voters.

They'll pander to Jewish voters as well, but I think the tide is turning.

Because they're waking up to the fact that the left is not their friend.

I know.

Never has been, never will be your friend.

Yeah.

The right is your friend.

Yeah.

The Christian right is your friend.

I don't know how you didn't see that before.

I don't either.

But this poll from May showed that one of the questions was asked almost specifically like this.

What group of people would you depend on to

protect you from anti-Semitism?

Now, I don't know how you get this one wrong.

I can't imagine how you possibly can get it wrong.

Are there anti-Semites that identify with the right?

Yes.

There are.

And they are rejected often by everybody on the right.

By us.

Right.

Like, we were not like, hey, remember the Jews will not replace us guys in Charlottesville.

I have no connection with those people whatsoever.

They are not to me on the right at all.

But

when it comes to the polling of Jewish voters on a two and three to one basis, they said Democrats would be better to support them, to protect them against anti-Semitism.

It's unreal.

It's incredible.

How do you think they?

Hopefully they're waking up to it right now, though.

I hope.

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It is Patton Stew in for Glenn, day before Thanksgiving.

We are talking about

really

the global stage as it relates to politics here in the United States.

And, you know, it's fascinating to watch this stuff develop.

Polls have been coming out over the past few days that have been devastating for Joe Biden.

I mean,

catastrophic.

I love that.

I do too.

We discussed it.

We're about a year away from the election, so anything can happen.

Oh, yeah.

It's a good sign.

It's a statue.

Some people are waking up, you know?

And sadly, though,

some of this erosion, like you just pointed out, is from people who are pissed off that he's supporting Israel.

It's true.

It's true.

That's a little bit disconcerting.

But any weakness for Joe Biden, I think, generally speaking, politically is a positive thing.

If you care about the country and you want it it to go in a more conservative direction.

That being said, you can't predict a lot here.

I think people get too confident.

I talk to conservative friends a lot and they're like, oh, gosh, well, Joe Biden's been so bad.

Obviously, he has no chance of winning.

That's not really where we are.

Even these polls mostly are within the margin of error.

Of course, a lot of people are concerned about

new rules and laws and ways votes are occurring, including mail-in voting and mail-out voting, where you just pepper homes with official ballots and see if they come back.

Some of these practices are so wild.

I never thought we'd be there.

And

a lot of our listeners are in states where this has been happening for years.

It's not brand new.

But the fact that you just send ballots out to homes and assume that person still lives there, assume that person is someone, whoever is going to be there, won't fill it out for everyone in their household.

I mean, there's so many problems that can happen with that.

Look,

it's not crazy.

Go back to a system where you need to show up and vote on election day, or even if you want to do these, some of the early voting, okay, to a limited basis, maybe you want to include that.

Yeah.

And then include some sort of rational policy on absentee voting.

I'm going to be out of the state.

I can't be there that day.

Let me cast my vote by the mail when I request a ballot and I give you the reason why I need it.

Like, that is a totally rational

way of voting.

But it's, you're, you're an election denier, if you want to do any of those things.

Yeah.

You're trying to suppress the vote

if you want to do any of those things.

We can't even go back to the pre-pandemic ways without the drop boxes.

That's hateful.

And all the mailing stuff.

It's

asinine.

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It's asinine.

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It is Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

We were just talking

about

the Monday night football game with the Philadelphia Eagles

and the Kansas City Chiefs, and not just because it's Stu's team, the Eagles, and they won,

but it was the most watched Monday night football game in 27 years.

That's amazing.

About 29 million viewers on average watching the game, which is incredible.

I mean, that's amazing.

Those numbers seem familiar from an era when there was three networks

and there's nothing to watch.

I mean, with all the stuff that is on right now, 28.96 million viewers, most watched Monday Night Football in 27 years.

This is after the Super Bowl, which, of course, sadly ended the wrong way with the Eagles losing, but that drew 115.1 million viewers, according to Nielsen, making it the most watched program in television history.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that either.

So more watched than, what's the one that's always cited, Dallas?

Dallas.

Dallas finale.

MASH.

MASH.

There's a bunch of those that are always tossed around.

And this was bigger than on all of them.

I mean, come on.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

But I mean, football is always the number one thing on TV.

It really is, and it's separate from everything else.

I mean, Sunday night football is usually the number one show of the week.

Right.

Every week.

Every week.

You look at the top shows of the week.

And it's not even close.

It's Super Bowl I, and then you get playoff games, and then you get Sunday night football games.

I think last year,

was it 75 of the top 100 or something?

I mean, it was something outrageous.

We're all football games.

Which is crazy.

It's amazing.

And so.

It's amazing.

Do you think

this effort by the left, which is ongoing and real to end football as we know it,

because of the injuries and whatever?

Well, I don't think it's because of the injuries.

I think they want to to destroy American culture.

I think so, too.

But their stated reason.

The American people won't tolerate it.

They won't tolerate.

We'll tolerate Marxism.

We'll tolerate hedonism, but we won't tolerate the football going away.

I think you're going to ⁇ that would cause the American people to rise up and say, no, that's not happening.

You can't get rid of football.

Right?

I mean, is there any other issue that would unite Americans more than that?

Yeah.

Sadly, I don't think so.

I don't know.

Yeah, you're right.

I don't think so.

I do think, though, there is a real movement.

I mean, there is a real movement.

They want to show it as brutal and awful.

And how can you put your kids in this?

Right.

And look, you know, as a parent of a child who plays flag football and wants to play tackle football, you know, you can be of two minds on this.

Like, you know, you're concerned to put your kids.

I have a friend whose son is a really good athlete and played tackle football and, you know, recently broke his back.

It's like a 12-year-old broke his back in a game.

And he's going to be okay and he's going to brace for a while.

But like, I mean, good God,

like, it's terrifying.

And I, you know,

are they going to let him go back?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, this is Texas, Pat.

True.

I think they will.

I mean, and again, that doesn't, look, it's a small, small percentage that something like that could happen.

He's going to be in a brace for a little bit, but he's going to be okay.

And every indication is he's going to be okay.

It was not a devastating injury from the perspective of some long-term consequence.

They don't believe by any means.

But, God, just hearing those words is terrifying.

Not to mention, of course, the concussions and all the other stuff that you're- You were afraid of that.

Yeah, because I think that's sort of, because it's like, you know, my dad played tackle football and he had knee problems his whole life because of it.

He was a linebacker, a darn good one.

And he, you know, had issues with his knees.

He always kind of struggled with them when we'd be playing in the backyard.

He had those issues.

And,

you know, he lived with them and he looked at that as a price for what he did.

I mean, he didn't want to get injured, but he loved the game and loved playing the game and would not have given it up, even knowing what injury he ended up with.

You know, some of these things are really serious, though.

There was a big story in the New York Times this past weekend.

And again, the New York Times is...

leads these movements.

They take,

they are the ones that make these things occur.

This is what happened, you know, a lot of the stuff with CTE.

They're looking into this.

The headline of the story was, they started playing football as young as age six.

They died in their teens and 20s with CTE.

That's the headline of the story.

Now, of course, we all know that this theoretically is possible.

They have, you know, devastating evidence of a young kid who turned 18, was having problems, voices in his head.

He believed he had CTE.

He killed himself, shot himself in the chest.

Oh, geez.

And in his goodbye video to his parents, which he recorded right before the shooting, said, please donate my brain so they can look at this for CTE.

They looked at it for CTE and

they found it.

They found that he had CTE.

Here's the thing, though.

They only test the people that they suspect had CTE who played football.

What if everybody has CTE?

Yes.

I mean, we don't know because you don't get tested.

They know shockingly little about this.

Yeah.

They know shockingly little about this.

I talked to a.

Well, we got that.

Have you ever seen the movie?

Is it Concussion?

I think it's called Will Smith, right?

Yeah.

I mean, you talk about a one-sided movie

that was all from the perspective of the doctor and what he found out and the NFL's evil.

And they should have been on this because they knew the whole time.

And

they didn't.

I think they do too.

Now, look, do they want to protect the shield?

Sure.

Of course.

Well, of course, everybody wants to protect their company.

Their business and their company.

But like,

the way that people don't look at this is back when this was happening,

there was basically one doctor who thought this was going on.

And he was kind of a nobody.

I mean, like, look, this is how these things happen.

This is actually, in some ways, a really good story where he went to the University of Swahili or something.

Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, not that there's anything wrong with Swahili or Nigeria.

Right.

They're wonderful places.

But he was kind of a well-known physician here.

In the community, right?

And so he brought up these concerns, and he was largely ignored because there were, let's put it this way, everyone believed better doctors on staff for the NFL who did not think this was the case.

And by the way, this is still true.

There's still a lot of doctors who believe.

Actually, this isn't as opening, you know, cut and dry as people believe.

I talked to a former NFL team doctor who laid out the research for me a couple of years ago.

And he's like, look, we still know almost nothing about this.

The suspicions are real

and there could be effects, but we also look at this and we find people who didn't ever played football that get this.

There's all sorts of exceptions to these rules.

There's also a thing, a report, where soccer might be even worse than football because they're doing the headers all the time.

Off a ball that's coming at you at 50 miles an hour and then you bash it with your head into the net, that's causing...

severe concussions.

Yeah,

it was different sports.

Like soccer was one of the big ones.

Hockey was another big one.

Hockey.

But this is, and again, like to your point where it's not everybody, this is the New York Times article, which doesn't explicitly say we should end football today, but is almost to that level.

Like they're basically like, what are you doing to your kid, putting your kid in tackle football?

They say researchers examined 152 brains of contact sports

athletes who died before turning 30.

So 152.

They found that

more than 40% had CTE.

So right off the bat, 60% seemingly didn't.

So,

everyone wants to say off the bat, okay, you're going to blame football for all this.

Well, obviously, we're talking about 60% in this study that's trying to make an argument, you know, that this is bad.

They say 60% had CTE.

This is,

they go through sort of the details of this, and they show like really

legitimately emotional footage of these kids who, you know, you watch them play football at six and seven years old and you realize later on they died in some terrible way.

It's awfully heart-rending.

And I understand that.

But of the 63, 48 played football, they say.

So again, now you're at, it was 60%

didn't have CTE.

Now there's another 15 of the 63 people who,

you know, what, a quarter of them

didn't even play football.

The main sports for other athletes in the study who had CTE included hockey, soccer, and wrestling.

So look, I think frequent head trauma can really do some damage.

And we're finding out that that is a real problem and we should do everything we can to prevent it.

However, just like every other dangerous profession and dangerous pastime, it is up to the individuals, the individuals' families, the people involved to make decisions on their well-being.

That is something that we've lost through the COVID period.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

We lose it seemingly every single day where, you know, like what happened to the people that, that,

the frontiersmen who went out and risked their lives on a daily basis to make this country exist?

Yeah, the nation would stop.

If they had

our mindset back then, we would have stopped at Ohio.

We wouldn't go another inch because it was too scary and too dangerous.

We're fighting frontiersmen dying at a level, but that's unacceptable.

We need to stop it right now.

And if the left gets what they want, we will do nothing.

We will sit on our freaking smartphones all day long and never move.

And say what you will about the NFL.

They don't want bad things to happen to their players because that's counterproductive to their business.

Let's say they're completely insensitive to human suffering, which I don't believe.

Yeah, which I don't believe either, not at all.

But let's give them that.

Okay, so let's throw that one out.

At least they want their players to continue to play.

Right.

So it's to their benefit to protect them.

And it doesn't make any sense for them to say, yeah, there's nothing to this.

We're not going to do a thing about it.

No, they really, I believe, they really legitimately believed at the time that these things were not accurate.

And you go back at the timeline, the first,

I'm going to estimate this.

I don't remember the exact year, but the first time, the first restrictions put in and the protections for players for concussions were put in,

I believe it was the same year that Boston University came out with their first study.

It may have even been before it, because there was a lot of conversation that occurred before the study.

But the first conclusive study on CTE, it was within a year that the NFL put in protections.

Now, you might say those protections weren't enough.

You might say that they should have gone farther.

They should have realized earlier before the scientific consensus came out.

You might say they should be playing two hands below the waist.

Exactly.

Or flag football.

Yeah.

That is where I think this is.

And that's where I think they want it to go.

And if it goes there, it's over.

And look,

honestly, nobody's going to watch flag football.

I love my kids.

My son loves football.

And I've had him so far play flag football because I want him to, you know, like there's injuries and it's outside of just

the head stuff, but it's also like he's a really big baseball player and he really loves baseball.

And I think, you know, him getting hurt on the football field might affect that.

There's a bunch of reasons why we've chosen to go that way, especially in their younger years.

I don't think that's wrong.

I don't think that means that you're

against tackle football to protect your kids early in life.

You can have them play flag and it's great for them.

But like, look, NFL athlete, you're a freaking adult.

You're going to college.

You want to play college football.

You're making decisions as an adult in these scenarios.

And you're making really good money.

Almost always, in almost every case, over seven figures, sometimes eight figures.

I mean, it's you're you're

I mean, over the course of your lifetime, you know, some of these guys are making hundreds of millions of dollars.

So they're making a

benefit a cost

risk benefit analysis there for their own life.

Like everyone does.

Like everybody does.

Every day a decision you make in your life has a cost.

Driving on the highway has a cost-benefit analysis associated with it.

You might be making it subconsciously, but you make thousands of them a day.

And when these people are making really important decisions about their life and they are saying, hey, especially now, they know these risks.

They know.

Yeah.

They're aware as to what they're doing and the risks they're taking.

And like, that's why I never, I'm never

an opponent of a guy, you know, getting a first down and getting out of bounds instead of taking an extra hit.

Get out of bounds.

There's no reason.

You don't need to get beat up by a guy that's 300 pounds coming at you full speed if you can avoid it.

But when it's fourth and one in a playoff game and you need that first down, that's the time to take the hit and go for it.

Right.

And, you know, I think, I don't think there's any problem with that.

I think we can do these things in a smarter way.

We don't have to.

I think they've gone too far already with the protections to the point of like sometimes I watch these.

There was, there was a roughing the passer call in that Eagles Chiefs game that was like, are you kidding me?

mahomes released the again i'm an eagles fan mahomes released the ball and like one second after he releases the ball a guy pushes him in the chest and he falls backwards and they call it roughing the passer it's like what sport is this these are supposed to be this is tackle football still right we haven't changed it completely to flag yet have we I get, and this happens, it's not just like the Eagles are only the only ones getting bad calls.

It happens all the time all over the league, and it's absurd at some level.

But like, I understand trying to protect these players, and you should, but like, let these guys be adults.

They're men.

Let them be men.

Let them make decisions to form their lives for themselves and their family.

That's the American way.

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And their game, of course, is

insanity.

They're just completely stark raving mad.

And it starts with the morning postum show with Joe and his main squeeze, Mika, who are actually married now.

I mean, they denied for a long time that they were even interested in each other.

Oh, yeah.

And now they're married.

Now, I don't know who they were denying it to because I can't imagine a person caring.

So

I don't know who they were denying it to.

That's a good point.

It's probably somebody.

It's a good point.

Somebody cared.

Yeah.

I will never forget how friendly they were to Donald Trump at the very beginning of this.

Oh, my God.

Do you remember the difference between 2015 and 2016 with these people?

Yeah.

They loved Donald Trump and they were best friends and they invited him to his, to their wedding.

I'm glad you remember that?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God.

He came to parties.

They were the best of friends.

They sure were.

When they thought they could get benefit from his ratings.

Yes.

And so they brought him on all the time.

I'm glad you remember that, Pat, because when you go through this clip

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I know, Stu, you were on with Sarah Gonzalez on the News and Why yesterday.

Yeah.

And came across a really interesting clip from Joe Scarborough.

Well,

really interesting and Scarborough really don't go hand in hand.

No.

It's a contradiction in terms.

It's just,

I don't know.

Do you have this feeling?

Like, you ever think to yourself, you know, I'd love this, what I believe in this particular situation doesn't benefit me.

And I would love to just say the opposite.

Right.

You ever have that opinion?

I never have that opinion.

You never had that moment?

No.

You know, it would be great for me to just be able to blurt out the opposite of what I believe because it will please my audience.

You ever have that?

I have never had that.

Never.

Some people do, apparently.

In fact, we've done the opposite on a couple of occasions.

Right.

Yes.

Yeah.

To our detriment.

To our detriment, whatever.

I mean, like, you know what?

You can't.

I mean, your audience knows when you're lying anyway.

Yeah.

Usually, I mean, I don't know if that's true on MSNBC, but I think,

at least in conservative talk radio, that's how I go into it.

And look, you don't get into this.

If you want to go into a business to get adulation and know and and all that

you go into liberal

you go into liberal politics because there you know you will get praised by the media you'll have celebrities fawning all over you blah blah blah you go into conservative media you do it because you care about conservative principles that's why you do it i like to think though if ever and i can't imagine it happening but if ever i worked at cnn or msnbc i would still say what I actually believe.

You know, I just, it's not what the audience wants to hear, which is why I wouldn't be hired hired at CNN or MSNBC.

But if I did, you don't change your opinions based on the network you work for.

No, it's just stupid.

It's just boring, right?

Like, we do, look, that's not to say that there aren't

conservative media and

fundraising and politics has their share of grifters, just like every other business.

Like, we, we know that.

That does happen.

But, like, generally speaking, when you get into this business, it's, it's a weird business to get into for that type of stuff because it's not, you don't get the love, the adulation of the world.

You're not put on a pedestal.

You want to say how great Hamas is,

you know, you get some of that.

Yeah.

You want to say, you want to say that

look at, what's her face?

This stupid female soccer player.

What's her name?

I can't think of her.

Megan

Rapino.

Rapino.

She comes out and she says, oh, yeah, like

talks about how it's wonderful that, you know, boys are winning women's sporting events.

Like, I don't know.

Does she believe that?

Probably.

She seems like an idiot.

But like,

if she didn't, like, if she didn't believe it and she just said it, she'd still get the same adulation.

She would get all the sponsors, all the advertisers.

I mean, I don't know.

Was she at one point a good soccer player?

I don't know.

It seemed like she kind of blew the World Cup.

This is the one thing that

was kind of on her back, but whatever.

Like, you know,

she can come out and say these things and people will fawn over her.

You go to the the conservative side, it's not the same.

So, we bring this up with Joe Scarborough because at one point he was a Republican congressman.

Yeah.

And he claimed to be a conservative.

I don't know if there was a ton of evidence of that at the time.

He was, I would say, a generic Republican.

He wasn't the worst Republican in Congress, but he was nowhere near the top half.

And, you know, he became a Republican congressman of little note and then got a job at MSNBC.

He tried to do a radio show for a while that failed.

And

what's amazing there, MSNBC didn't start out to be the MSNBC of today.

Right.

They were completely different.

They were different.

They were kind of like a,

trying to be a normal kind of technology-focused news network.

Then they became a left-wing arm of the Democrat Party.

Yep.

And that was long ago, as we all would note by now.

But I mean, there was a time where conservatives actually could get on the air at MSNBC.

And so at that point, did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I used, when I worked in Houston, they used to have me on there all the time.

All the time.

CNN as well.

But they, you know, there's no chance of that now.

No,

that would never happen.

They would never do it because that's just not what they do now.

And, of course, that's long been known.

Now, of course, if you want to survive at MSNBC and you happen to be hired in a place where they might hire a conservative and then the network changes, what do you do?

Well, you can either continue to say what you are generic Republican things, like Joe Scarborough kind of said he believed at the time, or you can completely transform into a a person who does nothing but criticize conservatives.

And I guess you keep your job.

That could happen organically.

I don't know.

Maybe you're just, since you're exposed to so many people of that ilk and that mindset, maybe you just start to agree with them.

I don't know.

I think, too, the Trump era did change some people who

maybe really were

some flavor of conservative for a while, wind up not liking Trump for whatever reason and wind up maybe kind of changing their views.

That does happen.

People change, you know.

But again, when you're still maintaining you're a conservative and this is all you do, it seems a little hollow.

Not to mention that it's blatantly obvious that, you know, he caters his message to MSNBC viewers who are very, very liberal, very, very infrequent to find.

There's not many of them.

But they are

power players within D.C.

Like that, this show is done for people in D.C.

and New York media,

not to gather a large audience, but to cater specifically to those people.

It's this weird insular sort of ecosystem they've built.

They don't get ratings.

People don't watch the show, but the people who do watch are kind of think of themselves as important.

It's why they get relatively good guests for a show of an audience that size.

I mean, normally a lot of the celebrities or power players would never want to go on a show like that because only like four people watch it.

But they've been able to build up a reputation for a place where these people go.

So that's a lot of setup for Joe Scarborough, but it's important to kind of realize where this comes from.

And now

you have to hear this claim because it is incredible.

And keep in mind, too, one other thing, and that's that

Joe Scarborough and Mika were huge Donald Trump fans.

Yes.

Well, that in 2015, when he first announced, they had him on all the time.

All the time.

At least once a week, and usually multiple times.

They let him call in on the phone, which normally you don't let candidates do.

If you want to come on the air, you come on and like show your face.

No, they'd let him call on the phone over and over and over and over and over again, praised him constantly, said how funny he was, how likable he was.

They went to parties with him.

They invited him to their wedding.

Yeah.

All of those things happened.

And we haven't forgotten that.

He wants you to forget it.

He wants you to forget it.

But here's what he now says about Donald Trump.

Have a responsibility to really tune out the voices of the haters, of the people that are constantly double and triple checking and shilling for him and suggesting that somehow they're being biased,

bending over backwards, treating him like a normal candidate.

Stop.

That's how that's Joe Scarborough.

He's describing literally himself throughout the entire primary season for the Republican Party in 2015 and 2016.

At some point, they had a falling out in 2016, and he then all of a sudden acted like he was a critic.

But like,

they are a large part of the reason why

Donald Trump got a lot of media attention early on.

Now, of course, Trump would always get media attention, but they helped that along and helped

him as a candidate in the Republican primary because, number one, they thought he would lose.

They weren't conservatives.

They didn't like Donald Trump as a presidential candidate, but they assumed he would lose if he got the actual nomination.

And they loved the ratings.

They liked money.

They liked the money that they got.

It was the only time anyone watched watched their show of any note.

You get these big audience bursts because Donald Trump would come on the air and he'd say something and they'd laugh at him and they'd treat him like he was a celebrity.

I'll never forget the clip that came out that I think one of their producers released where they had him in the studio and they kept the microphone going.

They kept recording.

And he and Mika were talking to Trump in the studio and, okay, what do you want to talk about next?

Where do you want to go with this?

What would you like to promote?

What would you like to talk talk about?

And they had this whole discussion about what would you like us to do for you right now?

I mean, amazing.

Again, like I would have you on the show and say off the arc.

What do you want to talk about?

What do we want to talk about?

Like, what do you got?

Is there anything you want to hit?

Not, I'm going to hit you with a whole bunch of really hard questions.

They loved the guy.

Loved him.

They were his friends.

They ran in the same circles.

They went to the same parties.

They were

buddies.

And he

desperately wants you to forget that.

Now, look, as you might say, as a person who likes Donald Trump, you might say, well, I mean, like,

there's nothing wrong with that.

And there isn't anything wrong with that.

But the problem, what's wrong with it is, number one, they decided they didn't like him anymore and totally turned on him.

And now he's the worst person in the world.

The worst person in the world, actually.

Maybe in the history of the world, as we're about to find out.

Yeah, exactly.

He's about to describe him in ways that you will not believe.

But like,

it is a central part of who these people are to say how bad Donald Trump is.

And they desperately want everyone to forget that they love the guy more than life itself in the most crucial time.

When Donald Trump, if let's say you're an anti-Trump person, in the time that Donald Trump could be pushed away, could have been eliminated from the primary, could have not become president of the United States.

15 candidates.

When it mattered,

Joe Scarborough was the most pro-Trump voice in the media that was not.

I think he was more pro-Trump than than anybody was on Fox at the time.

With maybe one exception.

Maybe one exception.

But it was not, not a lot of them.

No,

there were not a lot of exceptions to that because at the time, Fox was pretty skeptical of Donald Trump.

Now they wound up coming along to the Donald Trump thing and wound up.

And now they're back to skeptical.

Now they seem to be a little more skeptical again.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Don't really care.

It's crazy.

But still, it's fascinating.

Okay, let's hear a little bit more of the idiocy from Joe Scarborough.

He's not a normal candidate.

Not a normal candidate.

He is running to end American democracies.

We know it.

He's an authoritarian who a court in Colorado two days ago ruled that they didn't led an insurrection against the United States government.

Stop.

This was in a ruling.

By the way, the ruling was that Donald Trump should be allowed on the ballot in Colorado.

That was what the ruling was.

In the conversation about the ruling, they said, while we believe that he was involved in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they didn't rule that that he was because the whole point of the constitution if you are rule if you are ruled to be guilty of insurrection you can't be on treason right it's treason and you cannot become president that's why they were going after this in colorado to keep him off the ballot it didn't work it doesn't he doesn't include the detail there right that he's on that donald trump will be on the ballot so if they ruled him guilty of insurrection he would not be on the ballot what happened was the opposite of what joe scarborough says and this is constant with joe scarborough what he says he just said, all these media sources cannot treat him like a normal candidate.

That was your entire 2015 and 2016.

It was you treating him not like he was a normal candidate, but like the best guy in the world.

Yeah.

It's just, it's insurmountable the denial this guy is in.

I don't know how much we'll get through, but let's try it again.

Leading schemes to help overthrow the United States government.

So

if they want to frame me that way, that's fine.

If you want to be fair,

if you want to be fair, then you will frame this

as Joe Biden being the candidate that supports American democracy.

Oh, my God.

And Donald Trump, a candidate who supports a new form of government here that's authoritarian.

Okay, pause it for a sec.

Okay.

This is becoming too much for me.

I don't know if I can get through it.

Oh, my gosh.

So Biden is the pro-democracy, which, by the way, yeah, he probably is.

He probably wants us to be a democracy.

We're not a democracy.

I can't believe it.

What are we, Pat?

A constitution?

We're a constitutional republic.

It has elements of democracy inside of that constitutional republic.

It does, but we are not a democracy.

And the democracy

is a literal attempt to bring about

acceptance of socialism.

They want to bring about a democratic socialism.

That's what they're trying to do.

That's why they're trying to get us so familiar with the Democrat thing, with the democracy thing.

This is what Vladimir Lenin did in Russia because he was so afraid that people wouldn't accept communism or socialism.

So he framed it in a completely different way.

This is his framing of it.

We'll get into more of this.

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Oh, it gets much worse than this.

Nothing's even happened yet.

If you think this is bad, hang on.

That's simple.

And by the way, Reverend Now, when people go, oh, you can't compare him to past Nazi leaders, you can't compare him to this past Nazi leader or that past fascist leader, because he hasn't done that.

Well,

what hasn't he done?

He

dumbs up.

What hasn't he done to compare him to Nazi leaders like Adolf Hitler?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Murder people?

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

People in prison camps.

When I think of Adolf Hitler,

one of the first things that comes to my mind is the Holocaust.

What are the first things?

Is it really?

Now, of course, there are other things.

Well, you're a little bit.

The Audubon, for example.

That was one of the first things that comes to mind.

The Volkswagen?

The Volkswagen.

Yeah.

Yes.

We understand there are other things that come to mind.

But number one on my list is the

murdering millions and millions of Jews.

I feel similarly.

Really?

Yeah.

I thought I was alone after watching that clip.

We should note, by the way, the person he's bringing in to discuss

the

Nazi-ish views of Donald Trump is Mr.

Jaime Town himself.

Al Sean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A man who has been on record

with slurs, really negative slurs over and over again about Jews.

Yeah.

I mean, that's

multiple times.

Ancient history at this point, I suppose, in Al's life, but certainly no, no, no, no authority on this particular matter.

Um, in uh, in addition to that, uh, you have this idea that what hasn't he done that other fascist leaders have, have done?

Well, I mean, he hasn't killed eight million Jews.

That's one of the things he hasn't done.

War started a war that killed

50 million people

worldwide.

Yes.

Yes, he didn't do that yet, which is a significant part.

It seems significant to me.

I read the Volkler-Ulrich book, two of them on Hitler, his really

beginning to end,

Hitler ascent and Hitler downfall.

And they mention him killing Jews a lot.

Do they really kill them?

Yeah, like that.

So that was an important element in their mind

concerning Adolf Hitler.

It was recovered.

Now, they also do

mention his love for dogs.

Oh, he loved dogs.

He loved dogs.

He loved his dogs.

Oh, he's He's a dog person.

Yeah, at times in his life, he was a vegetarian for periods.

Wow, you share a lot in common with him.

Don't you love dogs?

And I'm a vegetarian.

And you're a vegetarian.

Though he wasn't an actual vegetarian because he had like odd exceptions to rules where he would eat meat.

Oh.

Which is not typical of vegetarians.

He was like me in that way because I'm mostly vegetarian.

Are you?

Yeah.

But I'll have an occasional, you know, piece of chicken or some fish.

Oh, you know, that's healthy.

And a little bit of beef.

You know?

some cow, steak,

roast,

roast, yeah, brisket, brisket, okay.

Yes, a lot of brisket, because it's Texas, after all.

Yeah, yeah, of course.

But you're mostly and you know, I'll from time to time eat pork, you know, pig, okay, bacon.

Yep.

Had me some bacon on my birthday.

It was delicious.

Oh, really?

Yeah, but that's unusual.

It's unusual.

You're mostly vegetarian.

I don't eat any bear.

No bear.

I don't eat alligator.

Really?

I don't, I, I don't, for instance, eat possum.

Never?

Never.

I've never eaten possum.

So yeah, you're most, most species on this planet that are meat-based, I don't eat.

So like if you were to say a percentage, you're probably only eating like five or ten percent of the animals on planet.

Maybe even less than that.

Yeah.

It might even be less.

It might even be less.

No insects?

No.

None whatsoever.

Even though the UN is trying desperately to get me to eat them.

You're not going to like your future menu.

No, I know that much.

I know.

You're not going to like that.

I'll own nothing and love it, and I'll eat bugs bugs and love that as well.

That's coming soon.

That'll be my protein.

So, also coming soon is a lot more of this clip.

And Sarah mocked me when we got off the air.

She said,

You're not going to get through that clip in one hour with Pat.

Oh, that's probably true.

That's probably true.

But we're going to do our best

because it's so infuriating.

And I will tell you, the craziest parts are yet to come.

It's incredible.

More on the way.

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um forgot about this quite the opposite we're gonna try to get through this but man is it difficult i mean here's a guy who purports to be conservative

and he still purports that.

In fact, let me just play this little clip right here.

This New York Times article.

Let's just go through them.

Okay.

Because it's time that fascism is called fascism, and Americans know exactly what they're voting for.

And, you know, I've heard people poo-poo.

They asked me, oh, people on the far left.

No, I'm a conservative.

I'm on the right.

Wait, what?

What?

Okay.

He's a conservative.

What?

He's on the right.

Is that still something he, you know, he still claims?

Yeah.

This is incredible.

Another weird media dynamic that goes on in that someone of Joe Scarborough's

ability is completely worthless as a liberal.

Yeah.

Because there are better liberals, right?

Like there are plenty of people who can come on and say like, hey, killing kids is great.

Like that's a

thing that's like very common.

You can find really talented people to do that.

Like every celebrity is a liberal, right?

You could just bring them on and host the show.

Where Joe Scarborough shows any value is a guy who says he's conservative, but agrees with all the liberals on everything.

Like, it's a, it's a, it's a whole industry.

Right.

Right.

Right.

And you make a living out of that.

Yeah.

I mean, there's people who are, you know, What's Her Face over at the Washington Post has been doing this for a very long time.

The columnist, uh, Jennifer Rubin, uh, same thing.

Like, she's been saying forever that she's, and at one point, she maybe was conservative, uh, but now makes her money bashing conservatives.

There's tons of people.

Adam Kinzinger.

And Adam Kinzinger's another great example.

No, there'd be no reason to, he was a nothing congressman.

No one knew who he was.

He was a giant zilch.

Because they love him on the left.

They love him because he'll bash, bash, bash the right.

Now he's on TV all the time.

Now he gets attention all the time.

And just one other thing I want to just clear up because they continually say fascism is a right-wing situation.

No.

It is not.

Big government is what it takes to become a fascist.

Yep.

Right?

You have to have a massive government to back up everything you're trying to do as a dictator, as a fascist dictator.

That is anti-right wing.

That right-wing, it wants the smallest possible government.

The conservative

ideology on this is we want government to be as small as possible and still maintain some semblance of order.

Yeah.

And localize the government as much as possible, make local decisions for a local government.

None of that is fascistic.

None of it.

I mean, this might shock people like Joe Scarber.

I don't know.

But one of the defining characteristics of the Nazi regime was total government control

from a centralized position.

If Adolf wanted it, Adolf got it in Nazi Germany.

That was kind of how the country ran.

It was very, very central to his idea of how government should work.

And it's the exact opposite of everything.

I don't know if he still would remember this, but everything a conservative would believe and argue for.

So it is completely a fallacy to say that a fascism is of the the right.

It is not.

It's nonsense.

That might be true in Europe.

It is not true in the United States of America.

All right.

There's more, and we haven't even gotten to the worst of it.

What hasn't he done?

He hasn't done the things that the American judicial system did not allow him to do last time, but may very well allow him to do this time, or

why would they?

Or a judicial system that will be ignored by Donald Trump

and Randolph by Donald Trump to create the greatest constitutional crisis of our lifetimes.

Just because he hasn't done it yet doesn't mean he won't do it when he gets a chance to do it.

He already had that chance.

Yeah, he was present.

He could have done it for four years.

What are you talking about?

It's remarkable.

It's remarkable.

And this is going to even make sense.

I hate to do a history lesson on the day before Thanksgiving,

but let me just delve into this one more time.

One of the defining characteristics of Adolf Hitler was that he didn't care what the judiciary told him was right or wrong.

He did what he wanted to do.

People who are fascist dictatorship.

And he had the power to make that happen.

Right.

Because he had a big government behind him.

Yeah, but sometimes, I mean, he would make, he famously made a speech where he said, look,

I know what I did yesterday was unconstitutional, but it had to be done.

That's because he didn't care.

He didn't care what the judiciary told him.

He just did it.

Then he goes on to assign that characteristic to Trump.

Well, this time he might not even listen to the judiciary.

Well, that's what fascist dictators do.

That's not what Donald Trump did.

When he lost court rulings, he had to live with the court rulings that he lost.

Look, I mean, you could say a lot of things about Donald Trump, but he did not act as a fascist dictator as the president of the United States.

I mean, honestly, sometimes I see people who claim to be on the right arguing for him to do more of that, and I don't want him to do more of that.

I think that's a very bad idea and a very

a path that leads us to very terrible things.

And everybody believes that, who believes in the Constitution?

Because the Constitution doesn't allow for that.

The president of the United States doesn't have that kind of power to become a fascist dictator.

So

the country that they are describing cannot exist under a system described by conservatives in America.

That is the whole

one of the main reasons we argue for these things is because we worry about centralized government doing too many things, controlling too many lives.

This is a blatantly

obvious thing to say, but Adolf Hitler controlled every aspect of everyone's life.

Everyone in the government acted on behest of Adolf Hitler to control every aspect of their life up until whether the life existed or not.

Right?

That's what he did.

Nothing like he wants to build a wall to protect our borders.

It's not like that.

Right.

It's not like him saying mean things on Twitter.

It's not like that.

That's not, I don't know.

Adolph probably would have been a very visceral tweeter

if he lived in our era.

But that would not be what he would be noted for.

He would not be known for that.

He would be known for things like the Holocaust, which again,

Donald Trump was president and did not do and could not do it under a system.

But if he was the dictator that Joe Scarborough is saying he is, he wouldn't care about those restraints.

He didn't even pursue jailing Hillary,

who actually committed some crimes that could have been pursued.

In fact, he immediately came out and said no.

By the way, I never really meant that.

Yeah.

We're never, we were never, he said we were never really going to do that.

And we all know he does from time to time engage in hyperbole.

I've never noticed that.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's see how much we can get through here.

Is voted into office, then a lot of these people that are talking about literal or figurative or whatever the hell they're saying, you're going to look like

he will do,

he will get away with, he will imprison, he will execute whoever

execute people to imprison

execute.

Again, stop.

He will execute whoever he's allowed to execute.

Fascist dictators don't care what they're allowed to do.

They would just execute the people they wanted to execute.

That's what they did.

That was like definitely.

It's the whole book.

All the books about it.

They all tell that.

All the documentaries, all the movies, everything about the Hitler era points you to the idea that they don't care what people say about who they can kill and who they can't.

That's the whole problem with them, or at least a large part of it.

Maybe Donald Trump will be the first caring

fascist dictator.

And he'll be remote.

Well, I don't like what people are saying about me executing all these people.

Yeah.

The judiciary did say I shouldn't kill the six million Jews or eight million Jews.

I went ahead and did it.

Darn it.

Darn.

Darn.

Probably, well, yeah, I should have done it, but dang it, I feel a little bit.

No, I really don't.

All right, let's go.

A drive from the country.

Just look at his past.

It's not really.

Yeah, we should have.

At least that's a great point.

That stood between him

and the destruction of American democracy.

It was the federal judiciary.

Okay, wait.

So again, what does a fascist dictator care about the American judiciary?

Nothing.

Hitler owned the judiciary.

They just ruled however he wanted to rule.

Look at Russia.

They rule however Putin wants them to rule.

That's how this works when you're a dictator.

That's not how it works in America.

We have protections and an American tradition that pushed back against whatever bad instincts not only Donald Trump might have, but other presidents have.

Like, for example, taking over the student loan

system and wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars of debt without the Congress.

The president of the United States tried to upend the Constitution, and he was derailed on that effort because of the American judiciary.

He did something that he knew and stated previously was unconstitutional and did it anyway.

And we have a system that was strong enough to push back against that.

That's the system working.

But again, every president tries crap like this, not to the level of

the Holocaust, but to the level of pushing the boundaries.

And typically what you see is the American judiciary and the Constitution holding up.

A constitutional conservative would would understand that.

Right.

But again, they just, they want to be in this world where,

you know, his, by the way, have you ever been to a party with Donald Trump?

I have not.

No?

No.

No.

I personally haven't.

I haven't either.

I don't hang with Donald Trump at all.

That's weird.

It's weird, but Joe Scarborough's been to, what, hundreds of them?

Probably.

And yet he's the guy who touted his presidency, touted what a wonderful guy he was for years and years and years and years, and now comes out and tries to convince you that he was touting Adolf Hitler.

And we're supposed to respect him for it.

Yeah.

What a backwards freaking world this guy lives in.

And I think he's about to get to the real meat of this discussion.

Oh, no.

There's more.

Oh, that was it.

Okay.

We made it.

He did say we did it.

We got to the end of the clip.

It's only been Sarah Gonzalez, 47 minutes.

Oh,

so in your face.

Yeah.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Sarah.

It's embarrassing.

Oh, my gosh.

You know, we.

And the claim was,

if not in this clip, it's in another clip, that he's actually more dangerous than Hitler, Mussolini, and Vladimir Putin.

Wow.

Wow.

That's quite quite a claim.

Quite a claim.

Maybe you shouldn't have been supporting him then, if you really believe that.

Now, of course, he doesn't believe it.

He just knows that his audience will flock to that nonsense, like, you know,

insects to light.

Yeah.

And that is what, you know, that's how he keeps his job.

Saying things like that is how he keeps his job.

Now, look, a lot of people don't want.

There's one, there's one school of thought, Pat, that says, don't sell your soul.

Oh, there is.

There is one school of salt, a school of thought that says, you know what, don't sell your soul for money and power.

Yeah, but it's not a well-known school anymore.

Yeah, and nobody's ever attended that school, have they?

Certainly not Joe Scarborough or Miko.

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No, you're not.

And that got just derailed as well.

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Because we have a constitutional system.

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Looks like Matt Gates is, I think it kind of surprises me, really underwater with Florida voters.

Have you seen that?

Yeah.

He's got 21% approval rating.

21.

Not good.

No.

That's sub-optimal.

Thank you.

I would say, yeah, I mean, you're going way out on a limb there,

calling it sub-optimal.

Yeah, I know.

Look, I'm taking a bold stance.

I'm going to have to go with you on that.

Now, it doesn't matter for Matt Gates and what his approval rating is statewide for his current job.

It only matters whether he can get elected in his own district.

But I guess he's having trouble in his hometown.

Yeah.

And also their big rumor was he wants to be governor.

He wants to be the next governor.

So that's not going to, you're not going to do that with a 21% approval rating.

And you know what?

I mean,

I disagree with Gates on some things, but I agree with him on a lot of things.

And I will say this about Matt Gates.

He's kind of gutsy from time to time.

Oh, yeah.

Do you remember when he was He was making fun?

He was mocking some pro-abortion protesters,

and a female reporter came up to him to challenge him on that.

Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?

Yes.

What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive?

Be offended.

That's one of my favorites of all time.

Yeah.

Nobody does that.

No.

Nobody defends a position like that.

No, that's not.

Are you saying that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?

Yes.

That's it.

What do you say to people who are offended by that?

Be offended.

Yeah.

It's awesome.

Yeah.

I mean, he is a congressman made for the media era, right?

I mean,

the social media era in particular.

And there's things to like about that, and sometimes maybe not.

There's some things not to like.

But, you know, again, he is

right on a lot of things.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

there's a little bit of hero ball that goes on with Gates and a few of these other congressmen.

You know, I don't know.

Yeah, where you go a little too far.

It's like, you know, the guy who's like dribbling around, like, hey, you've got two guys wide open, and you're dribbling around four feet behind the three-point line, down two in the closing seconds, you just dribble between your legs 80 times and then throw up a brick.

Like, there's a little of that with Gates, you know, but overall, a little bit.

Again,

he's not embracing socialism, so

he's been a lot of the Congressman, that's for sure.

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