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Well, hello, Stu.

Hi, Glenn.

I am back with my superpowers.

Yes, I saw some of these on Instagram.

Have you ever walked in fire?

I'm, I mean,

with the temperature of the studio, I'm considering it.

Yeah.

I'm considering hot coals right below my feet during the show.

Right.

I've walked on fire.

You have?

I saw it.

And it's crazy.

Yeah.

Crazy.

The story's crazy.

Tell you about that.

Also, we get you ready this big week, week before Thanksgiving, for the renewal of the covenant, which happens on Thursday's broadcast.

we have who else was on today?

We have Bodie Bachmann, Bodie Bachman, who's talking about culture

and

how fast that's going south.

And also, we have Rob Schneider on, the actor and comedian.

He's talking about his change to Christ.

He's gotten baptized and joined to faith.

We're going to find out why.

All on today's podcast.

Here it is.

You're listening to the best of the benefit program.

So

there is a broad coalition

for American communities.

It's gathering tomorrow, March for Israel, and it's happening at the National Mall in Washington, D.C.

It is to show

the support for Israel and Jews.

I wish I could be there.

I could not rearrange my schedule, but I highly recommend that you go tomorrow.

I've checked this out six ways to Sunday.

These organizations I don't agree with on everything, but on this, I absolutely agree.

March for Israel tomorrow at the National Mall in Washington, D.C.

We have Rob on.

Rob Schneider is with us now.

He just turned 60.

Hey, old man, how are you?

I don't know how that happened.

Am Am I actually joining that AARP?

I know.

I think you got until 65.

I think.

I don't know.

I'm only 59.

So.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Wow.

So I'm not old like you yet.

All right, Junior.

Okay.

So, Rob, you wrote a great article

about your journey into 60 and your advice at 60, but you also talk about

you've become a practicing Catholic.

Were you Christian your whole life and just never practicing?

Or what's your story?

Yeah, I was kind of going through life slugging along, ignoring God and pretending like there was

like, you know, I kind of like the atheist mistake of there's

and you know, they're my friends atheists, but they make the mistake of thinking like this whole universe is just this gigantic

thing expanding and bumping into stuff and that's meaningless and just and that we are some accidental freak of intelligence that just happened and it'll all go away.

And I just think that, you know, if,

as my buddy Norm McDonald said, you know, we're not a,

we are a small fraction of the universe.

So if there is such a thing as compassion and love and

empathy, then it must be endemic to this whole thing that we exist in.

And

I think,

you know, that little voice of Jesus Christ

was always coming back to me, even though I was going away from him.

And then finally, I think during all this and

kind of more obvious, I don't know how else to say it, but more obvious evil in the world.

And

I think it kind of

gave me,

you know,

I kind of got back to it that way, because if there is this really organized evil in the world, and I don't think it's at all more powerful, but I do think it's here to challenge us as individually, as a family, as a community, and I think also as you and I have come to really understand now, as a nation,

that I think we,

you know,

coming to God and realizing that,

as Father Ripberger said,

And then, and I don't have, the thing some people are having a question about Christianity is in Jesus, whatever form it is.

I just, for me, Catholicism works because it's the closest to the word, it's the closest to the actual word of Jesus through

the Greek and the Latin.

And that's why it works for me.

You know, I saw an article about this in, let me look, it was, I think it was Christianity Today.

No, ChristianPost.com.

And

it talked about how you're, you know, you're

you have failed in the past to show Christ's forgiveness to those who you disagree with.

And it's really beautiful stuff that you've said about forgiving people, et cetera, et cetera.

But then it goes into, yeah,

but he's repeatedly weighed in on LGBTQ-related issues on his ex account.

He was talking about

the female athlete getting spiked in the face by a male competing with the women.

And he wrote, this has got to stop.

If parents, coaches, and women athletes all refuse to play against these men, it all stops.

And then he was on the Glenn Beck program, and he talked about gender mutilation.

And so they're trying to say that, see, you really haven't changed because you're not forgiving of those things.

Well, that's a difference between Christ doesn't want us to just

stand down and accept evil and forgive evil and let it perpetuate.

Christ wants us to stand up against it.

You don't want to just, you have to knock, you know, Christ knocked over the

merchants that were no longer practicing at the temple because he and showed a righteous anger.

We have to protect the most vulnerable members of our society, our children.

Now, there's this weird justification that it seems to be okay for women now to suddenly

for the, quote, progress they need to take a back seat to other men and that's what these people are they're men they're not women in any way shape or form and there's there's this strange societal narcissism that is somehow accepted in in some ways is is I think is an is an attack on women which is an attack on God and I think we need to stand up and protect them and and it's just a um there is evil that can perpetuate and you know it's wrong and the people know it's wrong wrong.

And I'm glad that

the female athletes like Riley Gaines

are actually talking and stepping up.

And my wife actually corrected me because I said,

why don't the student athletes and these women step up, these, you know, who are these swim teams or basketball teams or whatever, or volleyball teams, step up and say something?

And she said, they do.

But people aren't listening to them because people don't listen to women.

And I said, wow.

I mean, I think, I think she's right.

I will tell you that there's a great misunderstanding on

speaking the truth.

That's all that Christ spoke was the truth.

And sometimes people don't like it.

Oh, well, it doesn't mean I stop loving you

because you're my brother or sister.

And I hope that you know, at some point, truth corrects you and you come on the side of truth.

But I don't hate you and

I don't, that's why I don't take it out.

I try not to take it out on you.

It's really hard.

It's really hard.

It is hard.

It is hard.

And it's supposed to be hard.

And it's supposed to be difficult.

But

we have to

try to

trust that.

that righteous instinct.

And it's there to challenge us, but we cannot be silent.

And

we cannot stand down when, you know the especially the most vulnerable members of our society are now under attack and I think it's you know the the LBG LBGTQ community that were it wasn't that's not the whole community but the community that is pushing this knowingly knows it's wrong because they went to a group of attorneys and they got advice about how to do this and they said don't do it with any publicity as far as you know the gender issues and the gender what they call protections.

And it's interesting because they just rename protections for something that is the opposite of it, which is mutilation.

Because you have, like, if these, and I just tell people who are, because they use our goodwill against us, which is inherently evil.

But if these children

can't vote, we don't allow them to drive.

We don't allow them to own a gun.

We don't allow them to join the army

or get even tattoos because they are not capable of making these permanent decisions about these things.

But yet we're able to do these horrible, and they are horrible,

horrible things that have lifelong repercussions.

And you see, you know, in Prager University, there's a wonderful film.

I say wonderful, but there was a very knowledgeable and informing film about the D-transitioners.

And it's just,

it's criminal.

And what it is, it's sad.

And let the child

at least turn 18 before they decide to do something.

I think 18 also.

My child, my oldest one, my daughter, she wasn't an adult at 18 either.

I mean, truthfully, the brain doesn't stop till 25.

Right.

So, but I do think at least at a minimum, if you have any conscience at all, then that they should be

any faith at all.

then you have wait till they're 18 before they make a decision.

And and

and just don't jump on any new fads especially a fad that has

the the the the real evil of it is this idea that they can be uh you know infertile and and just destroy themselves for life.

I think there is a

there is a really an attack on babies, there's an attack on girls, there's an attack on women.

This whole thing is a culture of death.

I mean, you look at what's happening with the Palestinian

rallies, where they're openly chanting, you know, death to Jews and send them to Germany and all of these horrible, horrible things.

Every bit of this evil.

It's coming at us, yeah.

Yeah, is

a culture of death.

It is a culture of death.

It's a culture.

It's just, I think there's

different ways to get at this.

And like, you know, My Coming to Christ was also in a logical sense of, I do think

you have the atheists now who have, it's like the opposite of the Snopes trial.

The Snopes trial,

which cornered in the Snopes trial in the 1920s,

which was about Christianity and evolution.

And the idea that Christianity was trying to

close in and limit the idea of God's plan,

which could have been evolutionary in part, for sure,

was basically putting a fanatic spin on Christianity and faith.

What you have now is the opposite of the Snopes trial.

You have a fanaticism coming from the atheists, coming from godless people,

and that are not wanting to see the potentiality of God.

And the potentiality of what they're doing could be wrong.

And just a real, real

exposing this is seeing the LBGTQ community who are supporting Hamas and Palestinians.

And it's like somebody's got to whisper in their ear, hey, they would kill you in a minute.

They'll stone you to death.

These are not people.

These are murderers.

You have to call them what they are.

And what it really, the sad thing about the pro-Palestinian things you see on campus, and you see, it's like, you know, when they say do not forget, never forget the Holocaust, it's because

it is something that can be forgotten, and it is being forgotten.

Because it's the very few remaining Holocaust survivors who are children now, very young children.

Now, it makes you realize a terrible thing, Glenn, which is that

the idea that the Holocaust could have been, you know, well, that's an end to this horrible anti-Semitism.

You realize that it isn't, that it's just

there's going to to be a continual, it was an apex of anti-Semitism, that there is not, that there is going to be a continuation of pogroms and an attack on these people and

on our on our

on these on these people because it is a it is a continuation of anti-Semitism.

It is certainly not anywhere near the end of it.

And for people who

war is hell, and war is hell, and the idea that somehow there's a clean more or there's a way to do it.

I mean, the death

of children in any situation is abhorrent and horrible.

And you try to prevent it as best you can.

But I remember thinking of Robert McNamara, who was

working with the Air Force during World War II.

They were talking about the fire bombing of Japanese cities.

And which was,

you know,

something that horrific, absolutely horrific.

Dresden was absolutely horrific.

Maybe more people died in Dresden than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined.

The bombing of Dresden

in World War II towards the end of

but to bring Germany to its knees to end that war was a was a was a greater good.

And it's all horrible.

But the idea that Hamas is going to be allowed to survive in any form, now for our questioning of it is

what is going to replace it?

You know, that's the question.

But you have to, you can't sit back and allow your people to be slaughtered.

No.

Your babies.

You can't.

And so we have to stand with Israel.

And we have to know that this is something that

it's not going to be easy.

And it's going to be, I mean, it's going to require prayer.

It's going to require God's help.

It's going to require our help.

But we have to be there for that and not give in to this Hamas

publicity campaign, which they're very good at.

We're talking to Rob Schneider.

He's actor, comedian, writer, and he's just written a piece for theblaze.com, The Gift of Turning 60, where he talks about this and so much more.

And you can find that on the front page of The Blaze.

Rob, great talking to you.

Thank you so much.

Always thank you for your time.

Thank you for your faith.

You bet.

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Let's continue our conversation on the covenant, which is coming on Thursday.

And I pose this question at first.

Why does everybody hate the Jews?

Scientists have actually looked at this.

Experts and historians.

This is really...

Really good question.

Yeah, why does everybody seem to hate the Jews?

One.

First, they came up with five reasons.

One, Jews are hated because they're an inferior race.

Except Jewishness is not a race.

Any person, any creed or color can convert to Judaism.

Okay.

I convert to be a Jew,

they would kill me just as fast.

Okay.

Next one, economic.

Jews are hated because they possess too much wealth and power.

Well, okay, there are some well-off Jews, but there are millions of poor and downtrodden Jews as well.

So Jews are people too.

Isn't it kind of weird like that?

Jews are hated because they're different from everyone else is answer number three.

They're outsiders.

Well, Jewish communities often tried to assimilate.

In the 18th century in Europe, they tried desperately to assimilate.

How'd that work out for them?

Scapegoat.

Answer number four.

The Jews are hated because they're the cause for all the world's problems.

They've been hated because they're an easy target.

Deicide.

The Jews are hated because they killed Jesus Christ.

I just like to point out, I'm pretty sure

those were the Romans that killed Jesus.

They were the ones.

So I ask the question again.

Why do people hate the Jews?

And why is America second in line?

Notice that?

We're the great Satan.

Why?

I think there's really one reason.

The Jewish people know who they are.

They're the children of Israel.

They are from the promised land.

They are God's chosen people.

Who says they're chosen people?

That's not right.

Everybody's searching for answers, searching for the truth.

Jews have something unique.

They have an eternal identity that has been spoken.

And it's an identity that is built on traditions, laws, promise, faith in God, a covenant, a rock of a covenant.

And the Jewish people work hard at studying and teaching that covenant.

They've handed down the traditions and blessings from one generation to another for thousands of years.

They are very clear who they are.

Now,

just that alone, holding on to who you are, passing on customs and traditions and conventions

that makes you a little peculiar in today's world.

We're not doing it.

They are.

And their covenant gives them a relationship with God and with one another.

It binds them.

It lifts them up.

You know, the attitude in Israel is extraordinarily positive right now.

I have heard that people have told me in Israel that Everybody's very optimistic.

They're all like, we're going to win this and we're going to solve this problem.

And they're not cowering in fear.

Where do they get that?

The covenant of God gives them confidence that they're going to be blessed if they do what they're supposed to do.

In a world where the foundations of truth and reality are being destroyed and being distorted, that kind of confidence

lends itself to envy.

And as Yoda warned us, envy leads to jealousy.

Jealousy leads to hate.

Hate leads to anger.

And anger leads to the dark side.

Or something like that.

Like suffering.

Shut up.

I'll tell you what Yoda said.

We are suffering today, are we not?

And it's because we're not grateful.

It's because we forgot who we are.

Jealousy.

It leads to riots, abuse, and kidnappings.

It's led us to war, and over and over again, it has led to mass genocide.

You see, I think why the Jews are so hated is it's Satan's way of winning against God.

This is the scriptures according to Glenn, so take it for what it's worth.

God made the covenant.

God did.

I'll be your God.

You will be my people.

You will grow in size.

All Satan has to do to beat God is to

kill God's chosen people.

That forces it.

If I kill all of his people, then he's no longer God

because

he said he would protect them.

And if we're looking for a way out of our situation, the surest way is to follow the example of the Jew.

Remember who you are.

Remember, too,

that we're number two.

We're the great Satan.

We're next.

And that's because we too are a covenant people.

You notice it's not Great Britain that they're saying is a great Satan.

It's us.

It's us.

Because we, when the pilgrims set foot in America, they stepped forward not only on the rock at Plymouth, but on the rock of the covenant.

Comparisons are made all the time between the Jews and the pilgrims, and the pilgrims were also reviled.

They were persecuted.

They were led to a land of promise.

And like the Jews, the pilgrims built on traditions, laws, and faith in God.

The pilgrims worked hard.

They didn't blame others.

They studied.

They sought and taught the covenant.

They handed down promises and blessings from one generation to the next.

They forged a nation built on a relationship with God.

But when we get to next week and we're celebrating Thanksgiving, how many of us are thinking about any of those things?

Any of them?

We've abandoned our promises.

We've cast aside our blessings.

We've given up on our relationship with God.

But let Thursday change this

because we can pick up the mantle of our national covenant again.

And the pilgrims made their covenant with us.

I tell you, with us.

Not some generic us, but us,

the people living today in mind.

They're nearing the first Thanksgiving.

They had so many trials.

Only half of their company is left.

Half died on the way over, then the other half, the half of the other half died in the first winter.

William Brewster is one of the survivors, and he said, for some divine purpose, we yet remain.

It is our master's will that we stand or fall here, and in our harvest trials, has not the divine presence been with us?

Wherefore let us stand.

We believe this movement to be from Him.

If He prosper us, we shall be the means of planting here a Christian colony and of ending hence its precious blessing.

Blessed, blessed it will be for us.

Blessed for this land, for this vast continent.

Generations to come shall look back to this hour and find these scenes of agonizing trial, to this day of small things, and say, here was our beginning as a people.

These were our fathers.

Through their trials, we inherit our blessings.

Their faith is our faith.

Their hope is our hope.

Their God is our God.

That's what the covenant is about.

You have inherited the blessings and the responsibilities that have come with this covenant.

You didn't make it, but our pilgrims, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, renewed it.

We've made this.

This is

what God means when He says: if that nation will turn back and turn their face back to me, I will heal their land.

It's your turn to step up and answer the call.

The nation is waiting.

waiting.

The world is waiting.

God is waiting.

Thursday on this broadcast.

Do not miss Thursday's broadcast.

If you want to know more about it and you want to prepare for it, just go to Glenbeck.com.

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Oh, my good friend, Dr.

Vodi Bachman is

with us.

He is the author of The Ever Loving Truth.

How are you doing, Vodi?

I'm doing great, man.

It's good to talk to you again.

Thank you.

Are you in Africa still?

Yeah, I'm in Zambia right now.

How are things in Zambia?

I don't get to say that very often.

Things are going okay.

It's hot.

Yeah.

Things are going okay.

Yeah.

So, Vodi, I wanted to get you on because we're doing renewal of the covenant the Pilgrims, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln made in our history.

And

it all really revolves around the truth.

And we have a problem with truth right now.

And I know you have a book out, and you talk about

a pastor that

you were

talking to.

And he said, let me tell you about my Bible study that I had a few weeks ago.

And he was teaching 1 Corinthians chapter 5.

Can you tell that story?

Do you remember that story?

No, no.

You got to help me.

Okay, so he said he was

sitting down in a group full of

people,

and he was watching the young

people because he got to the part of the text where it involved an affair

and that he knew that

there was going to be problems.

And he said, it wasn't the problem of the illicit affair that intrigued the younger set, but the idea that Paul would have

the idea of the response.

Right.

That you should be removed from the church.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, yeah, when you start asking me about the stories in the...

I'm sorry.

Yeah, yeah.

You could throw me a little bit.

I know.

Yeah, that was the idea that the people were offended by the absolute truth claim, more offended by the absolute truth claim than they were by the sin itself.

It's as though in this,

the greatest sin that you can commit is not what God calls sin, but actually calling out what God calls sin.

And, you know,

the reason that I sort of hesitated with that story is because, you know, this is an updated and re-released version of a book, my first book that I actually wrote in 2004.

And that's one of the stories from the actual, from the original, you know, book back in 2004.

And the reason that we redid this, the reason that we did an update and revision was because those things

back then are not only still with us, but they've actually grown and mutated.

Oh, yeah.

And so today,

you know, it wouldn't be, you know, an affair.

Today, it would be something about, you know,

trans and actually saying that, you know, trans women are not real women.

But the fact of the matter is that this new version of tolerance has elevated,

you know, everybody's personal desire above the word of God.

How do you describe this new tolerance?

Because tolerance used to mean that

you just put up with somebody who's saying things you don't necessarily agree with or don't like, and you're just like, you know, just let it pass.

But now you can't do it.

Right.

No, no, no.

The new tolerance, you know,

there's three pieces.

There's relativism, pluralism, and tolerance.

And, you know, I put these together and talk about how they form this foundation.

Relativism, the idea that, you know, truth is relative.

There's no absolute truth.

Pluralism, all ideas are equal and of equal value.

Tolerance is

that you must celebrate the ideas of others and consider them of equal value to your own.

So it's not disagreeing agreeably.

It's not disagreeing at all.

But there's a caveat.

And the caveat is

there are truths with which you can disagree.

And they are truths found in the scripture.

You don't have to tolerate truths that are found in the scripture.

You have have to tolerate all people, but you don't have to tolerate

white, male, heterosexual, cisgendered, able-bodied, native-born.

So again, this new tolerance is selective and intolerant.

You know, there's a,

I've noticed a really disturbing trend

as we all,

at least God-fearing people,

have started to go, you know, maybe

we better turn back to God.

Maybe I haven't done what I was supposed to do.

Maybe I haven't, you know, I'm not the best representative of my faith.

And more and more people are starting to turn there.

And some people are taking,

I've talked to several people in America who believe that our Constitution, it's old, outdated on our side.

It's old, outdated, and it needs to be replaced with more of a religious state, which to me is terrifying and not the path that we're supposed to go down.

Yeah, and it's interesting, you know,

to think that our Constitution, the U.S.

Constitution, is the oldest standing constitution in the world.

By far.

And I think

it speaks to God's providence and the genius of the individuals

who put it together.

But you know, that doesn't mean that it can't be eroded and it is being eroded.

And I don't think the answer to the erosion is to somehow do what other countries do all the time, which is abandon it

and try to do something new and try to do something different.

Because the fact of the matter is, you know, our worldview and foundation

is so skewed that whatever we came up with, I'd be afraid of.

Yeah, so would I.

The idea, though, that

we have people from all different faiths, but we are a Judeo-Christian nation.

That's what we were founded on.

So how you know, go ahead.

That's why.

That's why we can have people of so many different faiths, because our biblical morality is such that we do not force our faith on others.

It is our biblical morality that laid the foundation for people to come and be free.

It's our biblical morality that created the environment.

And ironically, people are now trying to throw away that biblical morality.

And the end result will be tyranny, not tolerance.

The role of the average Christian in, I mean, we've

I think tolerance has been used against us because we've wanted to be kind, et cetera, et cetera, and we stopped speaking the truth.

And that's so misunderstood in today's world.

What role

should

a Christian play in today's society?

What should we be doing?

Yeah, and you know, I talk about this in the book, too.

And at the end of the day, we're truth-tellers.

At the end of the day, we stand on the truth of the gospel.

At the end of the day, we love people enough to tell them the truth.

We believe that all men are sinners and that there is only one answer to man's sin problem.

And when we present Christ and his person and work as the answer to man's sin problem, that is not us saying I'm superior to you.

That's us saying I'm just one beggar telling another beggar where I found bread.

Tell me

your help help on this.

There are so many people.

I was just talking to Rob Schneider, the actor and comedian.

And he just converted, and he's now a Christian, where he was kind of nothing.

And

he said it's because evil is becoming so apparent now.

I figured I should pick a side.

But for some reason, evil is not apparent to so many.

For instance, I feel bad for the innocent people in Gaza that might be killed as collateral damage in a war,

just like I felt bad for Germans that were killed in the war as collateral damage.

But you're seeing people now on the streets call for the death of Jews, quoting Hitler.

And still, So many people all around the world are not waking up to think this sounds evil.

How do you get people to wake up if they will stare evil in its face

and do nothing?

Yeah, and that's the great irony.

People do see evil, but as Isaiah warns, they actually call good evil and evil good.

And ultimately, this is a worldview issue.

You keep hearing this same, and we've talked about this before when I was there with you in person, the same neo-Marxist worldview that divides the world into oppressors and the oppressed.

And when you look at conflicts, you look at conflicts through that lens of who qualifies as the oppressor here,

not by their actions, right, but by your classifications and who qualifies as the oppressed.

And people are making decisions based on that and solely based on that.

And that stops them from seeing

evil, things that they grew up knowing.

I mean, there's not a person, except for Nazis, there's not a person in America that didn't grow up being taught, you know, the Holocaust was a horror show.

Yeah,

yeah.

And that's part of the great, you know, know, irony in all this.

But there's less of that being taught than there is this

oppressor, oppressed binary, which is interesting because we don't want binaries with male and female, but we want binaries with oppressor-oppressed.

But there's so much of that being taught, and it overwhelms anything else that's being taught

in terms of history.

And also,

what's being taught is that there's certain

ideologies that are evil because these ideologies are used to oppress people.

And also, this whole idea of anti-colonialism, right?

And so, if you can classify someone as a colonizer, right?

I mean, that's like the worst thing in the world that anyone could do or be.

And anything that happens to them, they deserve.

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