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Hello, Stu.
Glenn, how are you in your moisture-wicking underpants?
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Okay.
Now that we have that out of the way,
let me start with the latest.
I mean,
should we start here?
Should we start with the latest on Joe Biden and his
incredible lie that is now just completely falling apart?
Or should we start with the really great
story coming out of Atlanta on the Attorney General?
We have more information, thanks to Andy No, on that.
The ADL.
Or we could start about talking to maybe with your net worth.
Pardon me?
Reading a little bit about your net worth today.
I've got some questions.
You have some.
Where were you reading about my net worth?
I went on a very reputable website and learned all about everything that you have.
And I was a bit surprised.
Really?
Yeah.
Because, you know, you try to act like you're the everyman.
Yeah.
You know, that you can get.
Well, that's me.
I mean, I think you listening to me, I mean, you're like, no, he's half chick.
He goes to Broadway shows.
He's just like me.
Yeah.
Doesn't know anything about sports.
Doesn't know anything at all.
Although I did watch the Chiefs last night.
Have no idea who won because I went to bed at halftime.
Okay.
But it was good.
The Chiefs did not win.
They did not win.
They lost 21 to 20.
I hated that.
Yes.
I hated that.
There you go.
Okay.
Anyway, all the receivers that caught every pass in the Super Bowl dropped every pass last night.
None of them can make any plays at all in game one of the regular season, but in the Super Bowl, most amazing players of all time.
Let me tell you.
It's not any frustration from an Eagles fan or or anything.
I have to tell you, that last drive before halftime, it's great.
And then when it gets down to about 29 seconds, 30 seconds every time, doesn't that seem like it takes forever?
Yeah, this is.
It's like you walk out 29 seconds, you come back eight minutes later, and they're still playing.
You're like, what the hell?
And it's like 27 seconds now on the clock.
Yeah, lots of dramatic sports time is something guys usually complain about, which is why I came to you as being an everyman.
Because you are the same complaints.
You're the one that changes all the baseball rules, so the game lasts now 12 minutes.
Thank you for that.
I don't want to stay.
I don't like baseball.
So can you make the game shorter?
I love baseball.
I'm sure you do.
Riddled with ADD.
Every once in a while, you forget you're at a game.
Like nothing happens for so long.
And you're like, hey, wow, I'm at a game.
Look.
Now, I want you to know when you're listening to Glenn talk and he's talking, oh, well, Bidenomics isn't working.
Seems to be working for you, according to this website, that
outlines everything you own.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
You have a net worth of $370 million.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
You have an annual income of $50 million.
Holy.
$9 million in book royalties.
Every year?
Yes, every year.
Holy cow.
How about this?
You never explain this because I met your dad before he passed.
Yeah, yeah.
Great guy.
Yeah.
Didn't seem wealthy to me.
Seemed like a guy who had worked his whole life as a baker.
Right.
Yeah.
Apparently,
you inherited $10 million from him.
I did.
Yeah.
What?
Never said a word.
Straight.
This little, I built this company sounds a little different after you hear that little nugget.
Wow.
My dad left me $10 million.
$10.
Million dollars.
Baking was good for him.
You know, when he was making those donuts, he's like, I'm going to leave my son $10 million.
Sold a lot of donuts.
My guess is looking at you, mostly to you.
That's my guess.
but again i don't know how you'd go off the money just right it's a little bit confusing so this seems a little inaccurate oh i disagree with this it's on the internet right okay okay all right well let me ask you we can we can fact check it with some of the other stuff they report here all right for example how many yachts do you own and i want you to be honest about it because no i'm looking at the number so you just
how many yachts do i own i know what the number is are you going to admit what the number is well
i would say it's less less than one less than one less than one do you want to stick by that i do want to stick by that incorrect you own five i
i own
five yachts is that one for each finger on one hand i tell you i mean you're the one you're the one it's one for every workday of the week there you go yeah okay now you also have uh 200 luxury watches really only the one private jet which does seem a little odd considering how much about the other seven.
Well, I only need one plane to fly to one of my five yachts.
That's true.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
Thank you.
Bitcoin, $8 million in Bitcoin.
$8 million.
Which is pretty impressive.
Now, let's talk a little bit about your home because I had been to your home.
Yes.
It's a very nice home.
Yeah.
However, I apparently haven't taken a full tour.
Okay.
Because
you recently spent $1.9 million to build a custom car garage on the property.
Wow.
Yep.
Wow.
That sounds pretty nice.
It's weird because you can't see it.
You come to my house, it's so well built.
It blends in.
It looks like a backyard.
You can't even see it.
Now, let me ask you this.
Is it maybe because I've been to your home in Texas?
Yes.
And I didn't go to your brand new $36 million 15-bedroom mansion in Florida.
Is that what the problem is?
Did I go to the wrong?
You found out about my home.
Well, as a matter of fact.
Hang on.
So, wait, wait, wait.
So I have a...
a how much did I pay for this?
36 million.
That's 34.
Okay, so way off.
Yeah, so I've got a mansion.
15 bedrooms in Florida.
15 bedrooms.
And you know how, like, normally it would say, okay.
You know what?
I have to tell you, this is a little unfair because 15 bedrooms, only 10 bedrooms, five of them are occupied by the yachts.
You keep them in a bedroom.
Keep it
very large.
Very large bedrooms.
Very large.
This would make sense as I read more detail because you could say, okay, well, they're just making up numbers.
Right.
They're just, you know, AI generating text to say,
no.
And I will say it doesn't sound like that because they give very specific details.
For example, that property that you just bought for $36 million earlier belonged to Clint Eastwood.
Oh, we are like this.
Like this.
You've always said you've wanted to meet him.
Yeah, and I don't know if you bought his house.
You know, he was surprised that he had a house
in.
But he's getting older now.
So it was worth a lot more.
But I, you know, I rip you.
You nailed nailed him on that.
You nailed him on that.
And by the way, think about this next time you hear Glenn Beck talking about how much the price of eggs have gone up.
For example, let me just give you some details about your home.
You would not tell the people.
Okay.
You wouldn't tell the people this.
Right, okay.
If I just didn't surprise you on the airlist, people would never get this information.
And you don't know this because you've never seen this.
I've never seen it, but I've read it.
I'm reading the list.
And you're one of my best friends.
I'm reading the reporting on this.
Right, okay, all right.
Okay.
So I bought
Leniswood's home.
There are some amenities in this mansion.
Amenities.
I want to go over some of these.
Yes.
Number one:
a dance floor.
Well,
why would you not tell me?
You know me in dancing.
Okay.
I am a dancer.
Yeah.
Can you go into more depth on that other than just saying the word again?
What?
Could you go into more detail?
You just said the word.
You repeated the word dance.
Yeah, no.
Dance is my life.
Okay.
Okay.
Not a lot of people know this.
Right.
You know, like a lot of people don't know I'm a painter.
That's true.
They mentioned that.
I'm not a dancer that I am a painter.
And I know that's not saying a lot, but that's why I have a dance floor.
Let me ask you this.
How many outdoor pools do you need?
How many?
I would say two is enough.
Not for clubs.
I think I think five.
I think five.
No, you only have three.
I only have three.
I have three outdoor pools.
But you do have an indoor plunge pool.
Right.
Which I guess is.
Well, that's when Tony Robbins comes over.
And yeah, he just likes to plunge in the pool.
Now, you also have a tennis court, a bowling alley, two guest houses.
This one's kind of true, doomsday bunker.
That one is actually
true.
That's the first thing on this that is actually kind of true.
Hey, look, and I don't want to call you out in the air.
Okay.
Okay.
You don't want to.
Even though I just read it.
But I felt it was necessary, especially to like, let's say some of our,
we have a big audience in Utah, for example.
Right.
Yeah.
They're going to be very disappointed in you.
Number one, you're a recovering alcoholic.
Number two, you're a Mormon.
Yet you have a wine cellar with 3,000 bottles of wine.
That is inappropriate.
Thank God they didn't talk about the hard liquor.
I have a wine cellar.
Yes.
That's weird.
What about why?
You live in the Dallas area.
Why do you have 15 houses in Houston?
Why?
I want to know
sometimes, like, never go to Houston.
Well, that's true.
You're not there that often.
But 15 homes seems like a lot.
But it could be part of your real estate empire, which is also detailed.
I have five yachts
for each workday.
okay
i'm trying to build up to 31 houses plus one for leap years so i can live in a different house every day of the month oh i think that's reasonable it does sound reasonable for you right as the type of person you have they all have dance they all have dance floors they all not all of them have three pools some of them have eight some of them have eight but uh what about your uh your uh luxury cars 20 of them i have 20 luxury cars yes including a Lamborghini.
Okay, now wait a minute.
I do own cars.
You have some nice cars.
I am a freak on cars, on old cars.
How many cars do I have?
You have 20, according to this report.
Okay.
We'll just see if they can get any of them right.
Okay, Mercedes Benz Next Class?
No.
BMW 5 Series?
No.
Lamborghini Urus?
No.
Or is it Urus?
Now, you look at me.
I can't fit in Lamborghini.
No, you're not good.
You're not Lamborghini-friendly.
Right, no.
Lexus LS.
No.
Cadillac DT6?
No.
Porsche Cayman?
No.
No.
Jaguar XJ?
No.
Tesla Model S?
No.
Lincoln Continental?
No.
How about a McLaren GT?
No.
No.
This is an accurate report.
It's pretty good.
And it gives you kind of net worth over the years, too, which I thought was interesting.
Yeah.
Net worth in 1990 was $910,000.
Really?
Yeah.
You knew me in, well, I didn't know you yet in 1995.
Yeah, 1995, you know, 97.
When did we meet?
97?
Yeah.
How much money did I have, Stu?
I mean, judging by your apartment, not $910,000.
I don't think I had $910.
But you nailed that up to $15 million by 2000, $180 million by 2010, 340 million as of last year, and then you just added an extra 30 million on for this year.
So congratulations.
Thank you very much.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
I would like to know.
You know, that's what happens honestly when you live a clean life.
You know, when you live a clean life,
then
you can have the five yachts.
Yeah.
Clean life is
an interesting point because
this report
goes into some of your troubles with the law.
I didn't know what to do.
I wanted to bring this part up.
I wasn't going to bring this up because
I think there was a problem here.
And I didn't, you know, I've never seen this reported before.
I didn't hear about this.
It's not about that girl I killed.
No, no, that was an old mystery.
That was an old story.
That was another story.
That's right.
That they made up.
This is per Forbes, by the way.
You're one of the richest media executives in the United States.
Really?
However.
Per Forbes.
This is not from Forbes because
there's no way Forbes would, I mean, none of that is right.
No, well, some would say.
Well, what do you mean some would say?
Some would say.
I'm just saying.
It's right here.
I'm saying it.
Millions of people are hearing it.
Right.
America has heard it.
The doomsday bunker is the closest thing to right.
In here, and I'm trying to find where it says, it did say there was a bit of an issue with you and a bar fight.
Can you, do you want to further comment before I reveal?
A bar fight?
Yes.
You had a bar fight.
I'll just lay this out for the audience so they know.
You had a bar fight with a famous CNN anchor.
Really?
Yes.
Now, of course, people don't know about this because you settled out of court.
Huh.
How much did I settle for?
You settled out of court for
600K
million.
600K million.
600K million, according to this report.
$600,000 million?
$600,000 million.
Really?
If I'm doing the math, right, $600 billion?
$600,000.
It's a lot.
I had to sell my other seven yachts to pay for it, but six hundred thousand million six hundred thousand million dollars it was worth it i mean depending on who you punched it might have been worth it who was like who did it it was just a famous anchor on cnn oh yeah to well you wouldn't pay six hundred thousand million to punch brian stelter in the face
now he he's not a cnn anchor as you know he he was let go
well i'm drunk 600k million the court actually i guess it settled outside the court beck paid 600k million in damages Wow.
I just wish you'd be honest with the audience.
Like, I know these things have happened in your life.
I mean, there's been multiple biographies that are actually less accurate about your life than this one.
There's no one.
There's nothing accurate in that at all.
That's what I'm commenting on.
The books that were written about you.
They were also, there's not one thing that was accurate in those either.
But I will say, this is an interesting revelation.
Well, and I hope the people now can see that you can't relate to them.
And at any point, you should get in a bar fight with Glenn because he's going going to pay you a lot of money in a settlement.
$600 billion coming your way.
I wouldn't.
Honestly, I don't recommend it.
It's not worth the money.
I mean, look at me.
Okay.
Not only am I a dancer, a passionate dancer.
Yes.
But me in a bar fight.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
It's like a third-grade girl fight.
I mean, you're in.
You are in with a girlfriend.
You are.
It's like someone throwing jello at you from across the room.
That's a pinch.
That's basically how it would feel if you were hit by Glenn.
I'd actually like to try that.
I'd like to.
I'd try to be catching you.
Yeah.
See if you could throw some jello my way.
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Why am I not, why am I still working?
That's my question.
All the bar fighting.
All the bar fight I still owe.
All the bar fight thing.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, well, thank you for bringing us
that information, Stu.
I could have been using it to bring some real news to you.
This one is
a remarkable story.
This story is coming from Mediite.
Presidential libraries for multiple former U.S.
presidents have written a joint statement for the first time to warn about the state state of American democracy.
I have to say this.
I get it out of my system.
We're a republic, not a democracy.
Okay, I've got it out of my system now.
The statement is co-signed by libraries for past presidents, including Barack Obama, George W.
Bush, Bill Clinton, George and Barbara Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter.
Wow.
Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, John F.
Kennedy, Harry Truman, and the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Library, oh, and the Herbert Hoover.
The only one that's not listed on this is the Donald J.
Trump Library because it doesn't exist yet.
Now,
this is thought to be the very first joint statement from all of the presidential libraries.
And I know I've been waiting for it.
I've been thinking to myself,
what do the libraries have to say?
What do those librarians think?
Yep.
Okay.
And it's actually a really good statement.
Americans have a strong interest in supporting democratic movements and respect for human rights around the world because free societies elsewhere contribute to our own security and prosperity here at home.
Now, is this a Ukrainian thing?
I don't know what that is, but it's true.
But that interest is undermined when others see our own house in disarray.
Yes.
The world will not wait for us to address our problems, so we must both continue to strive toward a more perfect union, that is hate speech,
and help those abroad looking for U.S.
leadership.
Our elected officials must lead by example and govern effectively in ways that deliver for the American people.
This in turn will help restore the trust in public service.
True.
Another hate speech line.
The unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, as stated in that document, the Declaration of Independence, are principles that bind us together as Americans.
They have enabled the United States to strive toward a more perfect union, even when we have not always lived up to those ideals.
A diverse nation of people with different backgrounds and beliefs, democracy holds us together.
We're a country rooted in the rule of law, where the protection of rights of all people is paramount.
This is an amazing statement
and accurate.
It should show you where we are in the Republic.
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Hello, America.
It's Friday.
We're glad you're here.
Thank you so much for listening.
There are a lot of things happening in Georgia that we're going to get to later on in the program.
This is a serious RICO case, and it is the first serious attempt I have seen to actually rein in
the crime and
the people that are burning our cities down.
First time I've seen it.
And it is all due to the governor and attorney general of the great state of Georgia.
And it is really good news, especially if you look at the case.
This is a solid, solid case.
There is something else that is happening, and I want to warn you that,
and also tell you, this is good news, but warn you, if you do not start to stand up, and I mean really stand up peacefully and make sure that your voices are heard in a chorus all over the country,
we will shortly fall into some sort of fascism, communism.
I have no idea what it ends up being, but it looks like fascism is coming.
And it's going to come faster and faster because the Biden thing is falling apart.
You're starting to see the corruption and it's being proven now.
The mainstream media is not paying attention to this, but once this starts to come out in open hearings, I don't think they're going to be able to avoid it.
You'll see President Biden get sick, step down,
something
to keep this buried as much as possible because
it is getting really bad and it is showing that everyone is involved in it.
Biden's story had been that he threatened to withhold a loan to Ukraine only because the prosecutor Shokin
was not meeting anti-corruption standards.
Do you remember this?
This is, we found the audio during the
Trump impeachment, where Biden openly said, yeah, I fired Shogun because he was a dirty, corrupt prosecutor, and he was, you know, he was doing all kinds of things wrong.
Here's exactly what he said.
I'm desperately concerned about the backsliding on the part of
Kiev in terms of corruption.
They made, I mean, I'll give you one concrete example.
I was, not I, I, but it just happened to be that was the assignment I got.
I got all the good ones.
And so I got Ukraine.
And
I remember going over, convincing our team, our brothers, to convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees.
And I went over for, I guess, the...
12th, 13th time to Kyiv and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee.
And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from
Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't.
So they said they were walking out to the press conference.
I said, no, I said,
we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
They said, you have no authority.
You're not the president.
The president said, I said, call him.
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.
I said, you're not getting the billion.
I'm going to be leaving here.
And I think it was, what, six hours?
I looked.
I said, I'm leaving in six hours.
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting getting the money oh son of a
got fired and they put in place someone who was solid okay stop at the time this is this is now provable lies on multiple levels we now know that
what was it a week before two weeks before uh his son was in a barisma meeting talking about how that
uh investigator that prosecutor was
snooping into Burisma and asking questions about Hunter Biden and also the guy who was really corrupt that ran it, an oligarch.
So
we now know that in this meeting, they went aside and first, Devin Archer said they called the president.
Hunter called the president or vice president, Joe Biden.
And they worked it out.
Then his attorney came back after break and he's like, are you sure you know he called the vice president?
He's like, no, he called somebody in Washington.
Yeah, I stand corrected on that.
Okay.
So who did he call in Washington?
Because within two weeks, this incident happens where he goes and he says, I want this guy fired.
Now, he said,
you'll call the president.
You can't do that.
Yeah.
I can't call the president.
They never called the president.
They should have called the president.
We now know that the White House and the State Department said the exact opposite of what Joe Biden was saying.
Now there is new evidence.
So we have the State Department communicating with the White House saying, this guy's doing a great job.
Great job.
He's meeting all of his standards.
We're clear.
Okay.
But everybody knew, according to Joe Biden, that it wasn't working.
That was their big sell when all this came out: that it wasn't just Joe Biden thought this.
It was the consensus of all
countries, like every civilized world understood that this guy was corrupt.
So, we've had now the documents from the State Department saying that's not true.
Okay, at the time, they're writing how great this guy's doing.
And now we have
evidence from the EU
where the EU concluded Chokin had met benchmarks on anti-corruption reforms.
In fact,
it's pretty glowing what they write about him.
Now, remember,
this narrative came out because
what did Donald Trump do?
Donald Trump said, hey,
he calls up the president in Ukraine.
I want you to find out what's going on because there is corruption with Biden and I want you to look into it.
He knew that this was happening, okay?
But what do the Democrats do?
They try to say, look, he's trying to get dirt on
his possible
opponent in an election.
That's election interference.
That's what the press sold you.
We told you it wasn't true.
We told you he's tried, eventually, as we did our homework on this during the trial, we laid it all out on a huge chalkboard and said,
Biden is doing exactly what he's saying that Trump was doing.
And this whole firing of Shokin smells really bad.
So at the time, Shokin was investigating the activities of Burisma and Hunter Biden, who had no experience in the energy industry, yet he was being paid at least $83,000 every month.
The European Commission in new documents said, based on these commitments, the anti-corruption benchmark is deemed to have been achieved.
This is from the governing body of anti-corruption.
It was a generally rosy assessment of Ukraine's pace of reforms according to the efforts of Shokin's prosecutor general's office.
They noted that Shokin, just a few months on the job, had already established a special national and anti-corruption prosecutor's office to aid newly reformed FBI-approved investigative unit called the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.
Now,
we told you that we had a problem with that, I did,
because that was a joint effort from the United States and
George Soros.
So, now, do we have anything about George Soros and what he was saying?
Because he's the co-founder, along with the United States of America, of this new anti-corruption.
So
we actually,
we actually do have something.
Let me see if I can find it here.
EU praising more on the EU.
I mean, they just praised, praise, praise, praise, praise.
And then you get to
the
Soros
information.
And Soros also said, his group said that he was meeting all of the benchmarks and was doing a great job.
So now wait.
Wait.
Oh, and one more thing.
Also, the phone call, the phone call to Joe Biden, it was all taped from Poroshenko, that is the head guy of Ukraine at the time, telling Joe Biden in an audio tape:
okay, we don't have any information on these corruption charges.
We don't have any corruption charges standing against this guy.
You're not providing us any information.
We have no information on why he is suddenly offensive to the United States.
But I asked him to resign.
Can we get our billion dollars?
Joe said yes.
So you have the president on tape with our vice president saying, we have no information, we have nothing, but you're holding the billion dollars.
And so, I mean,
I guess we're going to fire him, but we'd like the information because we don't know why we're firing him.
Because the State Department, the White House, George Soros, and the EU all said the guy was doing a great job right before he got on the plane.
Guys, what else does anyone need?
When this stuff actually starts to be in a trial of some sort, it's over.
It's over.
Because that is, honestly, that's just the beginning.
We now also have new evidence that shows the feds
were alerted by Morgan Stanley.
They blew the whistle in 2015 and said
Hunter Biden and his associates are involved in fraudulent and suspicious transactions.
Not only did they flag this, but they then elevated because nobody was doing anything,
the vice president
went from Morgan Stanley and went to the SEC
and said, guys, you've got to look at that.
This is, there is something really wrong.
And now, through the Freedom of Information Act, we now have
a presentation that they made to their compliance officers inside Morgan Stanley saying, this is dirty.
There is money laundering going on here.
Then we also have one more piece from the Washington Examiner.
We now know
that one of Joe Biden's
emails
suggests a close Biden family associate, somebody who was named in the warnings by Morgan Stanley and who was working with Hunter Biden,
went to work
under David Weiss.
And he was involved in the conversations on how to shape the stories related to Hunter Biden's work for Burisma.
So, the guy eventually investigating,
who's, you know, he's totally clean.
He has nothing.
Oh, no, he's got all the power in the world to do whatever he wants.
Well, is apparently what he wanted was one of Hunter Biden's apparently corrupt
workers and
a good friend of the Biden family was involved with his office
trying to shape the narrative.
And it only gets worse.
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There are several other stories where this is starting to crack wide open on Joe Biden and money laundering and everything else.
The reason why this is so important is
we are headed towards war in a country where the Bidens are trying to cover their tracks.
Okay?
I really, I could make a strong case that all of this money being shipped over there is just blackmail.
It's just keep your mouth shut.
Keep your mouth shut.
Keep your mouth shut.
And you could say maybe it's not all, but do you think none of it is?
Can you make the case to me or to anybody else that none of this money over there is going to people that are covering things up?
That's a tough case to make after looking at all this stuff and realizing it's the same place.
Same place.
The clip we played earlier, in which he sounds much more coherent than he does today, by the way,
is talking about withholding aid to Ukraine.
A billion dollars.
A billion dollars of aid to Ukraine.
That was the game then, withholding it.
Now he's on the other side of the game with new people, with tons and tons of money going over there.
And I do not doubt that a lot of that money is going to weapons and all the things that they talk about with the war.
But do you believe all of it is?
Do you really believe all of it is?
And just a small fraction of what we're sending over there would do a lot and it's not just what the government can do it's what this government seems
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Yesterday, I had the opportunity to sit down with John Dodson.
He's the guy that was with the ATF that blew the whistle on Fast and Furious, the only reason why we know about Fast and Furious.
Well, there's some additional information I wanted to get from him today.
He's on a podcast and it is remarkable.
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But I wanted to ask him about three things that have just come out today.
Navarro, Peter Navarro, is now being, he was charged contempt of Congress, but now the Justice Department has taken this, this is a Trump aide, taken it, and they're going to put him in prison for contempt of Congress.
The only other time this has happened was with
Bannon, Steve Bannon.
That just happened.
So two times here in the last couple of years, under Biden, somebody who had contempt of Congress charges are going to prison for it.
Just to give you an idea,
the last time that was used
was during the Red Scare.
when Congress in 1948 put the Hollywood 10 into prison.
Remember, those days were black, black days that we were all supposed to learn from and we should have learned from, but it is happening again.
Now, who else was, uh, who else was charged with contempt of Congress?
Oh, I remember
the guy who was running the Justice Department at the time.
of the gun running scandal, Fast and Furious.
Hmm.
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John Dodson, welcome to the program, sir.
How are you?
I'm fine, sir.
How are you?
I'm good.
I had a great conversation with you.
You scare me a little bit because of what you know
and
what you see happening.
But I wanted to ask you a couple of things.
Yes, sir.
First of all, this story that is coming out of
Matt Gates' office yesterday, he accused the ATF of retaliating against a Florida congressional whistleblower.
In a letter to the ATF director, Steve,
Gates claimed that ATF agents once again aggressively targeted and harassed one of my constituent federal firearms licensees, Chris Smith of the Gulf Coast gun.
Smith had testified in front of Congress alleging ATF mistreatment in June.
And it's for this reason he has been harassed by ATF agents again.
After Chris's testimony at my field hearing hearing on the weaponization of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, ATF agents showed up at his business unprompted to inspect a manufacturing license that he had held for only six months.
Chris had not yet used the license.
The agents had nothing to inspect, and they had no choice but to leave.
The ATF had previously audited Chris's retail license within the last year.
It follows, given the ATF is forbidden from auditing the same business twice in one year, the only excuse the ATF had to harass Chris further was an audit of a new unused manufacturing license.
The local ATF agent admitted that he had no records that Chris was using the license, but nevertheless, he received a direct order to audit Chris's new license.
In addition to this violation of federal law, the ATF showed up uninvited to the home of Christian O'Brien, Chris's store manager, without making an appointment as he doesn't have business hours.
He wrote, Christian does not sell any firearms or perform any business on behalf of Gulf Coast Gun.
Christian was not at home at the time, so the agents called him and told him, don't worry, we know where you work.
What is this?
Well, it kind of, if you go back to what we talked about yesterday, sorry,
it's this concept of total war, all right if you're if you believe that guns are evil that gun owners are evil and thereby gun dealers are evil then you go after them every way that you can you go after them through enforcement and you go after them through regulatory which is where these license inspections come in now you have to understand atf our house is split or i'm no longer with atf i'm retired and currently unemployed but um atf is split into two houses so you have enforcement which are agents and then what we call ioi the industry operations investigators They're the ones that do audits of licenses and things like that.
Now, I can tell you that in the past two years, the amounts of audits and revocation hearings has grown exponentially.
Now in this day and time, things that would normally just be a warning conference or a letter to a dealer about, you know, your books aren't being managed according to the law, according to the regulations, so you need to get this in line.
They are moving rather than they're foregoing all those initial steps and going straight to revocation hearings.
Right.
And this is directly, you know, I believe related to, you know,
orders coming from, you know, on top, from political machines, from an agenda from the White House.
So it's part of this concept of enforce the law on everyone that we can or everyone that we want to that we deem enemy and then enforce regulations to you know the fullest extent create new regulations create hardships put people out of business if we put the ffls out of business, then no one's buying more guns.
This is insidious.
What should that agent have done?
Well,
again,
they're under oath just like we are.
And your oath is to this nation and to the people of it to protect and defend the Constitution.
And like it or not, the Second Amendment is part of our Constitution.
You need to protect and defend it.
You can say no.
You can stand up and say no.
And I've done it, and I know others that have done it, and we've all paid prices for it, some far greater than I.
But
it's what you need to do.
Some things are worth too much than to just
go along to get along.
You paid a really heavy price.
You have been
afraid of your country for the first time.
You've mourned for the loss of what you believe is an honest institution
and no longer believe that anymore.
Make the case to people who are in your former situation that it's worth it.
Well, you know,
we touched on this briefly yesterday.
I was at a point where I had trouble separating my country from my government.
And now
I'm able to do that again.
I love my country.
I love the things that my country was founded on, the things that it represents, the hope, the freedom, you know, those things that now will get me on a terrorist watch list for saying, you know, when you talk about oaths and constitutions.
My government, however, has gone afoul.
It is no longer there to serve the American people.
It is no longer a government, you know, for the people, of the people, and by the people.
It's there strictly to exist itself, to protect its own power.
Power protects power, and that's what it's involved in.
And when someone gets the reins of that government and they decide they believe that something is bad, be it guns, be it whatever, then they use the whole force of the government to go after that.
And that's the most terrifying thing.
Because once, you know, when you know what your government is capable of doing and then you know what they're willing to do, it becomes a very strange world that you live in and a very terrifying one.
Say that again.
Say that.
Say that again because you laid this out so eloquently in the podcast.
And I urge you to listen to this podcast.
You just said what your government is capable of doing
and what your government is willing to do.
What does that mean?
Well, when you understand the capabilities that they have to intrude on in your life, to
go up on your phones, in your computers, to surveil you, to
dig up any dirt that you might have in the closet or manufacture stuff if you don't have any or what you have isn't significant enough the the the the tricks and the surreptits that they can go through that they're capable of and then you find out what they're willing to use those for to protect themselves and protect the power and protect driving the agenda it becomes a terrifying world and most people don't concern themselves with this they don't think about it because it doesn't happen to them and it's like uh well it has an affect me or or what have you but then you never know when it does you never know when that agenda is going to change you don't know know when that focus or that spotlight is going to be put on you.
And then everything that you've been doing is suddenly illegal or
against regulations.
And then the full force of the federal government, that that you know and much that you don't, is focused to attack you.
It's a terrifying concept.
So when you blew the world we live in.
When you blew the whistle, Eric Holder was subpoenaed to go to Congress and testify about Fast and Furious.
And he knew all about it, right?
He would have had to answer questions that would have made him perjure himself or what would the consequences be if he would have admitted to what you guys were doing.
Right.
So he was subpoenaed to not only testify, but DOJ, and as the Attorney General at the time, he's in charge of DOJ, was subpoenaed for any documents or several documents that related to the Fast and Furious investigation, most of which DOJ either refused to turn over or redacted so heavily.
There's a famous picture of Chairman Issa at the time, who was chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, holding up pages of documents that were just completely blacked out, totally redacted.
And so Eric Holder was found in contempt because he would not oblige that subpoena.
He wouldn't honor the subpoena issued by Congress.
And what I think
the majority of Americans don't understand is in our checks and balancing system, you think, I mean, I know when I get a subpoena, I know what happens to me if I don't abide by it, like, you know, what a federal judge will do for me and what my agency will do.
I will get fired if I don't honor a subpoena.
And for him not to do that and to be found in contempt of Congress, I think it was the first time ever that a sitting attorney general had been found in contempt.
Well, all Congress can do is forward that contempt citation to the U.S.
Attorney for the District of Columbia for prosecution.
Every U.S.
attorney in the United States is a presidential appointee.
So who was president at the time, obviously, and then who appointed him.
So no prosecution was ever sought.
But now, as you mentioned in your lead up coming into this, that has changed significantly.
We are now prosecuting these people that were held in contempt.
We're prosecuting those on one side of the political spectrum.
Correct.
Correct.
So if you think it can't happen to you, you know, I would imagine that all of these lawyers that are now facing jail time in Georgia figured, well, I'm an attorney.
I'm doing my job.
I mean, as Alan Dershowitz said in last week's podcast,
these are the same things that we did when I was fighting for the 2000 election with Al Gore.
He's like, same documents.
One of them is written by the same guy.
And they're using that as a conspiracy charge.
He said, I mean, this is, it's unreasonable.
Oh, it's more than unreasonable.
It's nefarious, is what it is.
I mean, it's literally using
our system of justice, the United States system of justice, to target political opponents and political appointees.
It's furthering an agenda.
We are
so close to having
a secret political police state that's going on in this country.
And most people, like I say, don't see it until it affects them.
And I forget exactly how it goes, but what's that famous quote, you know, during World War II, when they came for this group, I said nothing.
When they came for this group, I said nothing.
But when they came for me, there was no one left to say anything.
That's right.
Thank you so much.
I really, I can't thank you enough for everything that you have done for the country and everything that you continue to do and the risk that you and your family have taken.
Appreciate it.
Thank your wife.
I just want to say, oh, yeah, trust me, I thank my wife every day.
She's the reason I'm still here.
Yeah.
So, but there are more than me.
There were other whistleblowers that have suffered as well, and some have come through it.
And some, unfortunately, haven't.
But I encourage those out there in the know, like you can, you can stand up, make a decision not to comply with something that's illegal, immoral, or unjust.
As a matter of fact, your duty is to the opposite.
It's not to comply to that.
It's to challenge that authority.
All right.
You are the first line.
Those agents and those inspectors and the
prosecutors and everyone, you are the first line of defense.
Like, it is it.
It either starts with you or it ends with you.
If they control you, well, you know, it's
what we fear the worst is probably a lot closer than we think.
Yeah.
Thank you very much, John.
I appreciate it.
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Yesterday, here's Peter Navarro talking about how he's willing to go to prison.
Listen.
I said from the beginning, this is going to the Supreme Court.
I said from the beginning, I am willing to go to prison to settle this issue.
I'm willing to do that, but I also know
that the likelihood of me going to prison is relatively small because we are right on this issue.
so contempt of congress uh 1948 is really the last time it was used steve bannon they used it on him too so both trump supporters they get nailed and they're they're going to prison okay uh it will go up to the supreme court but we're doing it again
i'm i'm tempted to call and reach out to alan dershowitz this morning.
In fact, have Sarah reach out to Alan Dershowitz and just ask him, is this Peter Navarro thing another banana on his banana republic list?
He told me last week he was up to six bananas.
When you have 10 bananas, in his view, you have a banana republic.
And he said, if they don't move the trial for Donald Trump in
the, you know, in all the courthouses, if they don't move these past the election, he said, that's a huge banana and pulled probably multiple.
So we're four away, in his opinion, four strikes away from being a completely
ridiculous kangaroo court banana republic.
That's terrifying.
It is terrifying.
It's also a really fun way to think about the country dissolving.
Bananas.
Yeah, it is.
You know, it does
like bananas.
It's kind of a fun way to look at it.
Yeah.
Not necessarily a positive outcome, but a fun way to look at it.
So the presidential library came out, all of the presidential libraries that are in existence.
I wanted to ask you about it because you were talking about about it.
You said, like, it's a good statement, but
isn't the point of it, though, to, I don't know, shame evil Trump supporters or don't vote for I mean, that's the term.
I didn't know the coverage I got about it.
Well, that's the coverage.
Yeah.
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I have to tell you,
there are a lot of things that are happening right now that are very, very good, but it is turning up the temperature.
And when you back a wild animal into a corner, no telling what they will do.
And I think the left is being backed into a corner.
We're just starting.
We've just picked up the righteous cattle prod and went back.
They're not pinned by any chance, and they're not in the corner, but we're at least moving them that way.
What happened in Georgia this week is massive, massive.
Hopefully I'll have time to get to that today and give you more information on that RICO case against the left.
It is rock solid, or at least appears to be.
Also,
in Georgia, there is Representative Andrew Clyde, another great thing in Georgia.
The House Republicans are now looking at the appropriations bill.
Can they defund the special counsels prosecuting president trump
uh representative clide how are you sir
well good morning great to be with you glenn thank you
so tell me what you guys are doing or trying to do
okay you know the power of congress is at its apex when we are actually creating the funding for the next fiscal year And so when we see things that have gone wrong, then the correct thing to do is to defund them.
And I think it is very, very clear that what we are seeing is that the left has dangerously weaponized our judicial system, literally into the election interference arm of the Democrat Party.
They're using taxpayer dollars to persecute the leading political opponent.
That's wrong.
We are not a banana republic.
We don't do those sort of things in America.
That's not what our justice system is for.
We use criminal
statutes against a political opponent to try and take him out of the race.
So from the federal level, the solution to that is you defund it.
And that's exactly what I'm proposing.
When we get back next week, I'm going to introduce an amendment.
I'm on the Appropriations Committee.
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I'm going to introduce an amendment to defund
to prohibit the use of federal funding for the prosecution of any presidential candidate prior to the upcoming presidential election in November of 2024.
So what would that do?
I mean,
what cases does that affect?
That would affect everything that Jack Smith does.
All right.
Now he can still investigate.
He just can't prosecute.
And there's a big difference between the two.
All right.
Now, a second amendment that I would also introduce would be to prohibit federal funding to any entity, any state entity, local entity, that
decides to do the same thing and prosecute a major presidential candidate.
So that means that any state prosecutor, they would be denied federal funding if they decide to go against a presidential candidate between now and the elections in 2024.
So let's just say your own attorney general there in Georgia,
he just came up with RICO charges.
And the case looks, I don't know if you've seen it being national, but the case looks really strong.
And this is the right use of the RICO Act, in my opinion.
What they've uncovered with the collusion even into
a really serious security company playing a role in guiding these people
is really disturbing.
As long as Biden wasn't part of that,
then you'd still get the federal money, but it's just for presidential candidates?
It is just for presidential candidates.
That's correct.
And that ban would
go away after the election.
That's correct.
The ban would go away after the election.
That's correct.
The American people need to be the ones to decide, Glenn.
Not any biased federal prosecutor.
Would you consider a third
I don't know if you could do this.
I don't know if this might violate the
separation separation between federal and state, but
this movement to remove President Trump from all of the ballots, it just started in Colorado and they're threatening that they're going to do it state after state after state.
I mean, how do you what?
I think they would have a problem constitutionally with that.
a significant constitutional problem.
But, you know, it's the states who determine,
who who determine the elections.
We need to keep the federal government out of the election problem.
And which is what we're seeing right here.
The Department of Justice is being weaponized in the electoral process.
And even Joe Biden himself,
you go back to his words, I think it was November of last year in a press conference, when he said, you know, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power, talking about President Trump.
And if he does run, I'm making sure he, and then he adds this, this, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next president again.
Well, Biden is directly threatening to use the power of the executive against his political opponent.
And
we can't stand for that.
Americans can't stand for that.
What are the odds?
What are the odds this even passes with the Republicans?
Oh, I think the odds are pretty good.
You know, I've had significant conversations with many members of
our conference and I have not had anyone push back yet and say hey you know that's a good idea I cannot support that and I've spoken to a vast majority of of all of leadership so I mean it's I I think there's a there's a good chance that this will pass
I think this balances the scales of justice instead of making them tilt toward the Democrats here and it will have to go through the Senate right
that is correct right we can pass pass it in the House.
We'll pass it in the appropriation
in the Justice Department's appropriation.
We'll do it in committee first, then we'll do it on the House floor, then it will have to go to the Senate and it will go into conference.
But we'll fight for it there, too.
Is there any talk about, I mean, the money went to the FBI to build their new headquarters.
Is there any talk about defunding some of these
institutions, which we now know are corrupt?
Oh, absolutely.
In fact,
the money for the FBI's headquarters, which, by the way, the total bill is like $4 billion.
It's a building larger, a facility larger than the Pentagon itself.
Oh, my gosh.
The FBI does not need it.
It would only give them more power and make them feel like they are unaccountable to Congress.
But they have about a billion
so far in their account.
So
they're not even a third of the way there yet.
But
we are going to limit what they have, at least in, it's in two accounts.
One's in the Justice Department, the other's in general government.
But we're going to limit the amount that they can spend to basically repairing their old building.
So tell me how
How does this work?
Because Congress holds the purse strings, and it was put that way because you're the fastest to be replaced.
If you're not doing what the American people want, you've got to be re-elected every two years.
But you hold the purse strings.
And people like me have been saying, Congress, where are you?
But you really kind of don't if it has to go to the Senate.
Now, can that is this only that if you cut the spending, they can't add spending to it?
Or can they add spending?
No, no.
It is a negotiation between the two, all right?
But you are right.
We are the closest to the people.
We're elected every two years.
We have the power of the person in the House.
If we will use it and stand by it, all right, we will win, Glenn.
I'm very, very
confident of that.
And
the Senate has been notorious for doing nothing.
And it's the House where really all the action is.
Right.
But the Senate not doing anything, the problem is, is, you know, unless Congress is serious about not passing any spending bill and we're not going to raise the debt limit or anything else,
the Senate has no reason.
They have no pressure.
Why?
They don't care.
Just keep continuing, you know, get the
what do they call the continuation bills or
the CR continuing resolution.
Right.
Yeah, well, we're not going to have a clean CR.
That's just not going to happen.
At least I will never vote for it.
And I know there is a
significant number of Republicans that are not going to vote for that either, because this is the whole point.
The country gave Republicans the majority to plot a new direction to bring us back to fiscal responsibility and fiscal sanity and to eliminate the policies of the previous Congress.
If we do a clean CR, we are simply rubber stamping
Nancy Pelosi's policies and her spending levels.
And that's something that
is unacceptable.
We cannot do that.
We weren't given the majority to do that.
And honestly, if we want to keep the majority, we will not do that.
So I think that's pretty powerful.
I appreciate everything that you're doing.
Thank you so much for standing up and taking the fight to where it needs to be.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
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Just got a note from Alan Dershowitz because I asked him, hey, you were doing 10 bananas for a banana republic.
You said
that is going to go up.
You are at six bananas.
You said seven, maybe eight, if they don't change what they're doing with Trump in court on the 12 million documents and you have to have them all read by January.
It's impossible.
It has to be done.
That court case should not be heard until after he's lost or won the presidential election.
But he said that will count for another two.
10 bananas is full banana, Republic.
So I just wrote him and I said, hey, wanted to reach out and see if this was another banana amongst all the others that you talked about on last week's podcast.
And it is the former Trump aide, Peter Navarro,
going to prison.
for contempt of Congress.
And he said, it's half a banana because it's likely to be reversed on appeal.
Because it will go to the Supreme Court.
And that is, I will say, something we need to keep in mind here, which is the court system is part of the Republic.
And if it is reversing these things all the time, that is the system working.
It is honestly there to stop people overreaching like this.
And it is absolutely why we
cannot lose the next election.
Clarence Thomas, they're all aging out here.
And if we don't have real constitutional Supreme Court just, can you imagine if it was the Supreme Court of 10 years ago?
None of these things would have been overturned.
We'd be in real trouble, real trouble.
The court really has been the one thing
the line.
I mean, I give you the example of the student loan debacle.
with Biden, where he said he wanted to do this.
Everyone was on record, including his own Department of Education, saying he could not just force this through and relieve all this debt.
Then he just decided to do it, even though he knew he couldn't do it and did it anyway.
And luckily, the court stopped it.
Now he's trying to do it again.
And I think the courts will stop it again.
But he will still keep going.
They'll keep doing it.
They just don't care.
They don't care.
And what is so sad about this is at the end of the day, he gets to just say, well, the court is mean.
Yeah.
You know, they're mean to me.
And they don't want to be nice to students.
and the media will parrot that.
Again, I think he is,
I don't know.
I think if he goes through with all these things,
the jig is up.
You know what I mean?
It's like,
we know what you're doing here now because of things like this.
Yesterday, The Biden administration, this is from Fox News, is considering forcing migrants who cross into the United States illegally to remain in Texas while they wait out their asylum screening.
Are you kidding me?
It cannot be constitutional.
Right.
It can't be constitutional.
So Texas has to take the millions that come across our border and just eat it?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
It's been largely what has happened.
Right.
But it is.
It's been changing a little bit.
Right.
Yeah, because people are realizing, hey, you know, New York City is a sanctuary city.
Look at these comments from the mayor.
I mean, we should be putting billboards up all over the border that just say, hey, number one, fact one about the United States, New York City has a right to shelter law.
Fact two, it is a sanctuary city.
Fact three, here is the mayor and here is his quote.
That's all you have to put up there.
By the way, buses are overlooked.
Let's put those billboards with you.
Oh, my God.
You want to put them up?
I love it.
Yeah.
Let's put them up.
Yeah.
We'll put them up.
I think we should highlight other sanctuary cities as well.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, this is, it's ridiculous.
And it's like,
of course, they're going to go to these cities.
They, for for so long have done this thing where they said, oh, well, you in the South, you people in Texas and other border states.
You just hate.
You hate illegal immigrants.
No.
We love them up here.
We would welcome them here, but you, you hate them.
They look different than you and you hate them.
And wow, are we seeing a lot of not-in-my backyard type stuff going on now?
Oh, we want to help, but not here.
Right.
Not around.
our kids.
Right.
Of course not.
And what is happening
is we're not saying saying you're racist.
We're just saying
you're completely illogical.
You never thought this out in the first place because you knew you wouldn't have to deal with it like border states have to deal with it.
You know, you might be racist, but I'm not claiming that.
I don't know why you're rejecting them now because you love them so.
I don't hate immigrants.
I love immigrants.
You just can't have uncontrolled borders because because it collapses cities and thus collapses countries.
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It is Friday.
I'm going to speak to Coach Joe Kennedy in a second.
Remember, he was the guy who was just trying to say a quiet prayer at a football game.
He was a coach for Bremerton High in Bremerton, Washington.
And they fired him for you can't, You can't offer prayers like that.
Put all kinds of restrictions on it.
He went to the Supreme Court two times, two times, took seven years.
In June of 22, he won.
He went back to work.
This week, he quit.
Wait, what?
He said he didn't want to make it into a big deal.
He didn't even inform his attorneys what were going on.
His attorney said, Joe, you can't, what, uh-uh, you can't do that.
And he now has said, I guess I have a responsibility.
Imagine seven years of your life.
He was an atheist.
He was not a big God guy.
And he, I mean, imagine all of a sudden your whole life is consumed with protecting the First Amendment.
You don't want to do that.
I mean, you got a life you want to lead.
Well, let's find out what happened and where his head is.
Joe Kennedy joins us in 60 seconds.
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Joe Kennedy, welcome to the program.
Also, want to welcome Michael Berry, First Liberty Institute Senior Counsel.
Joe, I saw this happen this week and I thought,
what happened?
Yeah, well, number one thing is we have health problems here in Florida for my father-in-law, and we just got his test results last week, so that played a large part in it.
And, you know, it's been a marathon for the past 11 years, or I'm sorry, past eight years.
You know, fighting to get back on the football field.
And the only thing I wanted was to be able to be a coach and to pray after football games.
I felt like I finally crossed that finish line.
and I'm sure the school wasn't going to lose any sleep over me retiring, so I thought I'd go out on top.
So is that the whole story?
I understand that
they were doing several things to make sure that you weren't so comfortable.
Is that true?
Michael, you want to answer that?
Yeah, you know, and thanks for having us on, Glenn.
You know, Coach is probably too humble to admit that
even though
this historic Supreme Court victory in coaches' favor and a court order directing Bremerton School District that they cannot retaliate against him in any way, it appears that that's exactly what they're doing.
They refused to issue him a coach's locker.
They wouldn't issue him a coach's shirt or you know or sweatshirt like the other coaches got.
They wouldn't list him on the athletic department website.
They didn't list him on the on the coach's roster for the game.
They didn't issue him a play card before the game.
They ostracized him.
They made him out to be a pariah.
They wouldn't even let him participate in the traditional pregame meal with the opposing team coaches.
And it sounds like we're still investigating.
They may even have directed the players to stay away from him during the game
and not to have anything to do with him.
So really poisoning the well, you know, because it's been eight years, so these players don't really know coach the way that the players did when he was there as a longtime coach.
And now here he is, comes back, you know, after the Supreme Court win, and he's treated like a pariah.
So I think most people could probably, you know, would probably say to themselves, gosh, you know, who would want to work in an environment like that where you're supposed to be a coach, you're supposed to be working with the other coaches and the players, and they're not even letting him do his job, and they're treating him like, you know, just like I said, like a pariah.
Did you feel that way, Joe?
I felt a little uncomfortable.
You knew that I knew this was not going to be a picnic.
You knew that it was a hostile environment to go into.
They were being forced to take me back.
Just in their statements that they were releasing, kept saying this eight-year distraction that I was.
And, you know, the First Amendment and religious liberty is not a distraction to me.
So, yeah, it was just little things all along the way.
And
I was expecting it.
Well, you you shouldn't have.
I mean, that's against the law, right, Michael?
Yeah, it sure.
I mean, it looks like what they've done meets the classic definition of retaliation.
And First Liberty Institute is investigating this to see if that's actually the case.
And if so, we're prepared to do what we need to do.
You know, if we need to suit up again with Coach, he knows we've got his back.
You know, no Marine.
That's the one thing.
I'm a Marine as well.
And we learned you don't fight alone.
So we've got Coach's back just like we always have.
It'll be fun to
go to battle with them once more.
It's unfortunate that we may have to do that.
We hope we don't have to.
But
when you've got a bully like Bremerton School District that starts acting like this, just so petty, right,
and just treating him like this and not even really letting him be a part of the team.
And it's like they're saying, well, technically we're complying with the court order, right?
The court told us we couldn't fire him.
We have to reinstate him as a coach.
Okay, we'll do that.
But if we can make his life as miserable as possible, then maybe he'll just, you know, he'll resign on his own.
And so it sure looks like that's exactly what they tried to do, Glenn.
Well, I will tell you, if you can prove that,
you know, Bremerton is
a pretty well-off community, at least it used to be when I lived up in that area.
And,
you know, money doesn't talk, it screams.
And if they were doing that, they need to be taught a lesson.
And that lesson will most likely really come ringing home to them when
money is involved.
Joe, I have to tell you, I feel so bad for you because, you know,
in some ways, I mean, I chose it, but in some ways,
you know, I don't like conflict.
I don't like arguing.
I don't like any of, you know, much of my job.
And, but I chose it and I feel compelled to do it as it's the right thing.
But oftentimes I'll have a conversation with my wife and go, you know, I'm not doing anything that I really I want to do because this is hanging over the country.
And
you don't have that necessary, well, maybe you do, that necessary
obligation.
to stand up.
And you did it and you won.
And you had to be thinking, finally i'm out of this uh and i can get my life back and i want to just do what i want to do how how much of i mean how did that feel when you thought oh crap here it comes
yeah pretty much you nailed it right there glenn yeah i said oh crap and it just kept coming and you know i i am tired i don't want to fight anymore and i mean i just wanted to coach football i wanted to finish out um you know my career the way that I wanted to on my terms.
And it was just unfortunate that I met resistance along the way.
But, you know, being Marine and being American,
you cannot rely on the president to help us or the Congress to help us or even our local representatives.
No, we have to stand up as Americans and we have to do the fighting.
We have to stand up on our own two feet and say enough is enough.
And so I was obligated to fight this fight.
And right now, I feel like I can can continue that fight under my own terms, not under the umbrella of a school district, and stand up for other people's rights and help them out.
Good.
Well, I'm glad to hear that, Coach.
I just think you've had an incredible
burden to bear.
I mean, look at how much time our government has wasted.
Think of the manpower that we have spent in just arguing back and forth nonsense things
the money that has been sent spent look at what the gdp
how it's well this the the man hours and money all of this craziness that is occupying so many people's lives right now
think of the waste and what we could have created but instead we're just doing this.
I commend you for staying in the fight.
Thank you, Coach.
Thanks, brother.
You keep up the fight, too, man.
I couldn't have done them without you.
Thank you.
Also, Michael, thank you.
First Liberty Institute.
You guys are amazing.
What is your web address?
Firstliberty.org.
Okay, firstliberty.org.
This is an organization that if you have a dollar, you have $100,000.
This is an organization that you should invest in.
And it's, you know, you get a tax rebate if that's what you want, but
it's so important, so important, the work that they're doing.
Michael, thank you.
Thanks for having us.
You bet.
Can you imagine that?
No.
I mean, it's been a disgraceful process from the beginning.
Thank God.
I mean, First Liberty has been great on this and a bunch of other stuff.
I mean, a lot of these big religious liberty rulings you hear about in the Supreme Court are pushed through by this particular organization, which does great work.
I mean, it's being being an individual going through that has got to be, you know, just torture.
Just torture.
Eight years
long freaking time.
He just wanted to coach high school football.
Yeah.
And he's had to serve his country after he already served his country as a Marine.
Sure.
He has to spend another eight years serving his country with his life torn up.
Because I always, you know, once this had happened to him, right?
It became a larger story about religious liberty to the country, right?
Not, you know, to him too, but also like his, I thought his personal interactions with this school were over.
I didn't think he'd actually want to go back to the school and coach there.
And that really does seem to be what he wanted to do.
That was it.
And of course, they didn't even make that easy on him, which is massive.
Massive, massive, massively stupid decision by the school district.
Just spiteful.
Just spiteful.
I mean,
this guy takes this seriously.
I don't know if you've noticed the last eight years.
I have to tell you, I hope they sue.
If it's true, I hope they sue them for every dime they can squeeze out of that school district.
It's time people start to pay with jail time.
I got to get to this story in Georgia because it is fantastic and horrifying what they found.
But they need to start paying for what they did in jail, and they have to start paying civil fines, I think.
Start using the court system because they have distorted it and destroyed it.
You want to do this?
Okay, we'll put on the big boy pants.
Come on, let's go.
I mean, not me, but somebody else can do that.
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I want to play something from John Dodson.
This is the podcast.
It's episode 193, ATF Agents Chilling Warning.
John Dodson was the guy who blew the whistle on Fast and Furious.
And when he saw what the government was doing
to the people on the ground, it wasn't just that he thought this was illegal and bad.
He trusted his government.
And he's like, no, no, no, but this is going to be, this is for this and it's going to be really good.
And then he went out and he helped do Fast and Furious and find the gun stores and convince them.
And he said they didn't want to do it.
None of them.
wanted to have a guy with a bag full of cash come in and buy a whole bunch of guns.
He knew that they all knew that that would be deadly.
They were going to go and the Justice Department said, no, no, no, we're going to, we're going to do this so we can track them.
When he tells you how the numbers are manipulated, it is unbelievable.
But then
the Justice Department, when they
when they started getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they blamed the gun stores that actually had to be talked into doing it.
They didn't want to do it in the first place.
And this is what he said.
Listen to this.
Cut six.
When you blew the whistle, what was that like?
It's funny now because at the time I was so
naive, I guess is the best way to put it.
I joined the army when I was 17, still in high school.
I've been under oath to protect and defend this country and this Constitution since I was 17.
And yes, you see, you know, some things happen that are stupid and some things you disagree with.
But all in all, you think, okay, it's there for the greater good.
Like, it's, yes, we have our problems, we have our mistakes, but everybody does.
But everybody's trying to do their best.
And let's be honest, it's government.
So it's not the smartest people in society that gravitate to that line of work.
Myself included.
So
when that happens, when I see the way that they're handling it and they're trying to cover it up, that's when I realize, okay,
things aren't the way that I always thought they were.
And it makes you reflect back on things that you've seen in the past and question that.
And more importantly, it makes you question pretty much everything you hear in the future coming out of that.
And
so it was a defining moment for me and my wife.
And my wife was, I got to tell you, she's so fascinating because she's not in law enforcement, not in government, nothing like that.
But to see the evolution take place in her too, about what she believed her government to be and what it to stand for and things like that.
And then to where she is now, knowing that it's, you know, it's kabuki theater for a better term.
Were you afraid?
Oh, yes, sir.
Yeah, there were, there were times where I would, when I first blew the whistle, so long story short, when Congress, congressional investigators called me, these were people working for Senator Grassley at the time.
And
when they first got a hold of me, because I had vocally voiced my objection to the tactic of what we call gun walking, walking guns.
And
so I guess they had got wind of that and contacted me.
And I told them, I said, look, I'm not going to do this behind ATF's back.
I'm going to do it
above board officially.
So if talking to me is going to hurt your investigation, wait to talk to me last.
And they're like, no, it's not going to hurt us, but we encourage you.
Like, you don't have to say anything and we'll do everything to protect your identity.
And I said, no, I've been saying this and I'll continue to say it.
And I'm going to tell them that I told you, you know, so I told them, and then that's when everything changed for me.
And it got so bad to the point I thought I was going to be arrested.
I thought, you know, SRT was going to hit my house.
And I would, you know,
our special response team or some FBI, HRT, or whomever.
And, you know, I thought I could potentially get shot while resisting.
Or
I used to wait till my wife and kids, my wife went to work, my kids got on the school bus before I would start my car in the morning because every ATF agent knows how to build a bomb.
And
this is what I will tell the American people, and I've said it before.
When you know what your government is capable of, that is one thing.
All right.
When you know what they're willing to do with those capabilities, that's when it gets terrifying.
Jeez.
This,
I waited,
we've waited for years, and he wrote 160, what, three or four days ago and said, I am finally out from under their thumb in 161 days.
I'll call you.
And we counted down.
We called him.
And it's like 100 and I don't know, 170 days or 166 days, something like that since he's been out.
This is his first interview.
And that is terrifying.
When you know what your government is capable of, that's one thing.
But when you truly understand what they're willing to do,
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I've got one more thing that is gigantic, and I've only touched on it today.
I want to go deep here.
The Biden administration, according to Fox News, is considering forcing migrants who cross into the United States illegally to remain in Texas while they wait out their asylum screening.
Are you out of your mind?
First of all, I don't believe there's any constitutional way you can do this, but you want to put the burden on Texas and not all 50 states?
How dare you?
How dare you?
I wanted to get somebody on to talk about this who
knows Ken Cuccinelli.
He is former acting DHS deputy secretary, also the former attorney general of Virginia and now senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America.
Ken, welcome to the program.
Hey, always good to be with you.
Tell me, please, that Fox News has this wrong.
Please.
No.
You know, this administration, it's shocking but not surprising, you know.
But this is incredible.
When your constitutional comment would apply to Americans, interstate travel is not something that can be constitutionally impaired for citizens, et cetera.
But this administration treats people who have invaded this country.
Their first step in here was breaking our laws laws as having all the rights of everyone else around them, which is not legally correct.
And yet, instead of a Remain in Mexico program, which was the most effective deterrent of numerous ones in the Trump administration to
deterring illegal immigration, they have a Remain in Texas program.
You know, right when Eric Adams in New York City is saying, is calling Greg Abbott a madman madman for busing, as he and Governor DeSantis have done, illegals to New York City.
And he's saying it's destroying his city.
He says it will never recover.
It will never be the same.
And how many stew did we see what came up from Texas?
10,000?
Yeah,
I think it was 13,000 total.
13,000 total came from Texas.
100,000 from all of the borders that the people are crossing.
But that's minuscule compared to what Texas is enduring.
Right.
That 13,000 is
two days heavy Biden administration crossings.
Right.
Two days.
Three
regular days.
So here they get a week's worth of crossing into Texas, and they're crying, uncle, and this is outrageous and dastardly.
So much for being a sanctuary city.
This is what it costs to put your money where your big fat mouth is.
And the Biden administration cares more about illegal aliens in other countries than Americans in this country.
This is a direct
punishment for not playing ball with this administration.
I think that
fine, do whatever you want.
We'll destroy you.
Am I reading that wrong?
No, I don't think you're reading that wrong.
And that comes at the same time that they're suing Texas to take down efforts Texas is finally making.
It took two years, but Greg Abbott has finally been trying to repel people from invading Texas.
And the case is specifically about the buoys they are using, these huge buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to block, to essentially create their own waterwall in a particularly high crossing area.
to make it hard for people to get into Texas illegally.
And DOJ is spending its time and effort and
resources
and our money trying to stop Texas from protecting itself and then is rolling out this idea that everyone who invades Texas will then stay there.
So you're absolutely right, Glenn.
This is at the same time they're trying to trap illegals in Texas to preserve LA and Chicago and and New York's sanctuary city status so they can keep political virtue signaling at no cost.
They're also stopping Texas from protecting Texas.
And by the way, when Texas protects their own border, they're protecting all of us.
We all know that.
So let me ask you, Ken.
So
is this just specifically Texas, or does that include New Mexico and Arizona and California?
No.
Funny thing about that.
How about that?
The reporter who broke this story
is a reporter I dealt with at USCIS, which is the legal immigration agency that I led before I became the deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
And he has extremely good sources inside USCIS, which is where these regulations come from.
So he's not, you know, I may not have enjoyed it while I was leading USCIS, but he tends to get...
But he tends to get accurate information of at least what's being considered and thought about.
And so
this is an administration effort to zero in on one state.
There can be no legitimate rationale to exclude the other border states.
There just can't be.
But of course, then you're not protecting Los Angeles, right?
Right.
So this kind of BS we've come to expect from this administration, they have been underwater with Democrat voters on their immigration policies for over two years.
Democrats don't approve of what Joe Biden does or really doesn't do.
What does that tell you?
Going into an election with a
it tells you the lunatic fringe has the wheel in this administration.
That's what it tells you.
And they do.
So is
what are the odds that the people in the administration go forward with this?
So this one is so embarrassing.
It sounds so outrageous right off the top that I think shining the spotlight, as you're doing right now on it, may get the plug pulled.
They may say, oh, no, no, no, we were never thinking about such a thing.
Right.
We heard that about gas stoves.
Yeah, I was going to say, then they go and do it anyway.
Yes.
So, but realize if they attempt to implement a policy like this, Texas is going to be in an extremely good position
to sue them.
Except we have our
rhino Republicans and the Democrats trying to impeach our Attorney General.
So, you know.
Yeah,
I understand.
So is good.
I understand.
They're a little distracted right now.
Yeah.
But the Fifth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit preserved the border barrier, the buoys that DOJ is suing over.
They did that, I want to say, yesterday, after a judge decided to rule against Texas based on a statute while ignoring the constitutional claim of Texas that they have the right to protect themselves under Article 1, Section 10 of the O Constitution, which last time I checked trumped those statutes.
But the judge ignored that.
And so the Fifth Circuit quickly blocked his injunction.
And I'm confident that the Fifth Circuit will flip that and Texas will keep its small water wall and thus have the legal authority to expand it.
And then really what we should do is ask Greg Abbott to do just that.
So, Ken,
I was reading Abraham Lincoln last night, and he said
we cannot be divided.
We can't be a divided country.
And his issue in his day was slavery.
Ours is, I don't know, fascism, Marxism.
I don't know what they're fighting for, but an end of the America under the Constitution.
And he said,
it will only end in one way.
We will either be a nation of all slavery or we will be an all-free nation.
And that's what we're fighting this battle for right now.
And I,
you know, there are people that say, you know, we should, you know.
secede or, you know, whatever, I'm going to move to, you know, the state where I'm betting on I did it.
But it can't end that way because it really will be.
Nobody's going to stop fighting.
I'm not going to stop standing up for the Constitution.
And they're apparently not going to stop
standing up for madness.
Undermining it.
Right.
So
do you see a way out of all of this?
Do you see rays of hope?
Well, yes.
I just wonder if they'll hold.
And, you know, there's an old Reagan quiff about the wisdom of America resides with Americans.
Yeah.
And ultimately, we're going to, we're going to find out, is there enough wisdom left and enough Americans to see this for what it is?
You know, every so often we have to elect a liberal and see the incredible damage they do and go, oh, yeah, that's why we don't elect those people.
And then, you know, somebody on our side comes in and the other side beats them by creating anger and so forth.
And let's face it, Donald Trump does nothing better than motivate opponents, literally nothing better.
And they came out and
that's continued to happen over time.
But now the radical left has the wheel in this administration.
Joe Biden is a walking vegetable.
And they are implementing Erase America policies, erase America's border, erase America's history, erase America's Constitution.
I just made that up.
I kind of like that.
Erase America theory.
But that is what they're doing, right?
I mean, you were trying to put a name on it, but they hate what you and I know is America.
What makes us exceptional and unique.
You talk about it all the time, and you're right.
And they hate it.
They want to drag us down to being just an average other country.
And the best way they think, the quickest way they think to do that is erase the borders, invite everybody in with every other political world history
and make them citizens.
And then let them vote like they ever did in their original country that, lo and behold, didn't work there any more than blue citizens move from New York City to a red state and then vote like they did in their blue city.
And then they're surprised, wow, my red state is getting worse.
Yeah.
There's something to that.
Ken, thank you very much.
The only thing you said that I really disagree with is they're trying to make us an average country.
At this point,
I'd fight a little less hard if I thought that they would stop at us being
France.
In fact, I'd like to be France at this point.
Ken, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
God bless.
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On this particular issue that we've been talking about the last few minutes,
I guess the new U.S.
border is north of the north border of Texas.
So I guess the new southern border will be in Texarkana.
But
the Biden administration is considering
the idea of making people that cross into Texas staying in Texas, which is absolute insanity, unconstitutional, crazy,
gasoline on a fire.
But
those all sound like
positives to the left.
Right.
And what's the point of this, right?
They know they're not going to win in the Supreme Court, I would assume, by this.
So what are they doing?
Poke.
Poke, poke, poke.
Pleasing their donors, right?
Pleasing the left-wing acolytes that want to punish Texas.
That's probably part of it.
Well, we're going to have Governor Abbott on.
He hadn't been on in a long time, but we're going to have Governor Abbott on Tuesday to talk about this and what the plan is on the border.
He's been moving recently and
doing some good.
And I think the idea of shipping people up to New York,
probably the best idea in fighting for border security than anybody else has ever had.
Really amazing.
I can't believe how well it's worked.
Yeah.
And
how that has
taught a lesson to blue cities and states like you never could have imagined.
I mean, look, it was always a good point, but I never thought it would be this successful.
And it really has been.
All right.
We'll see you back here Monday.
I'm going to do a quick Friday behind the scenes on all the stories that I missed.
We're going to do that for Blaze TV subscribers and then have a safe weekend.
God bless.
Thanks for listening.