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Well, hello, Stu.

How are you?

Glenn, how was your weekend?

It was pretty good.

It was pretty good.

Yours?

Not bad.

Not bad at all.

Good.

Well, that's wonderful.

It wasn't

114 degrees every day.

Not every day.

No.

I mean, there's a moment there where I hit like 98, and I was like, wow, this is paradise.

Yeah.

You know, I put up, where's my sweater?

Uh-huh.

uh, it was 101

at the football game at 9 p.m.

on Friday.

It was great.

101.

It's been wonderful.

You know what?

I've converted.

Global warming is the most evil thing in the world, at least for a couple more weeks.

Yeah.

So

it's called summer in Texas.

It's not called global warming.

No, it's called summer

in Texas.

So it's

wonderful.

Very, very wonderful.

So the big story, we're kind of,

I don't know,

we're kind of dealing with the same crap.

If you look at the shooting in Florida, it's the same crap.

It's a Nazi with a gun.

Okay,

got it.

Nazis, bad.

Guns, neutral.

Let's make sure that Nazis don't have guns.

Might be a good idea.

Unfortunately,

the progressives are trying trying to make sure that no one has guns except for them.

That's a bad thing.

Because those Nazis don't typically listen to rules all that well

when they're made by people who they don't like.

Yeah.

The thing that fascinated me a little bit about that story was, number one, how it's a national story.

Like, look,

it sounds like a really terrible incident, obviously.

Like, you know, anytime there's a shooting of three people, it's a terrible incident.

But, like, how many times has that happen in Chicago or any other major city?

Like,

and I guess it's not a story when the people have the same color skin doing it to each other.

If it's two white people doing it to each other or two black people doing it to each other, we don't report on it at all.

But because this manifesto, which we suddenly have almost immediately, which I thought was not the pattern anymore, I thought we had to wait months and months and months for politically based

ideological rants about murders.

All of a sudden, we have it right away in this case.

And because it's apparently a completely insane person with a dash of racism or maybe a heaping spoonful of racism,

maybe a shovel of racism, but like seemingly other indications, it was beyond racism, like real mental health difficulties and insanity going on.

But we learned about that right away.

And it's, to me, kind of amazing how quickly.

We've had this total turnaround.

You go back and look at polls from 15, 20 years ago, and you see America was pretty close to having racism solved.

That's not by me saying it.

It's the people who were living at the time, including African Americans, saying like, yeah, things are pretty good race-wise.

And it's completely fallen apart ever since we've decided to try this solution of, hey, everybody, what if we all say that all white people are racist, no matter what they do or say?

And we'll also say all black people are victims and have no chance of succeeding on their own no matter what they do or say and let's give that a shot for a couple decades and see how it turns out not

apparently yeah i think we've done it not well you know we're just a few years from two decades of doing it 2028 will be the 20th anniversary of

uh you know racial and social justice the post-racial period yes and uh the post-racial period's not turning out to be quite like that just elect Barack Obama and you get the post-racial period

and it's funny because you remember we were of course, covering that back in the day.

And I remember walking, we did this coverage and we were in New York City at the time.

And I remember walking to the hotel I was staying at from the studios.

And, you know, people were in the, again, remember, this is New York City.

People were in the streets celebrating, you know,

in the streets trying to, not just because he was a Democrat, but I think larger because he was black.

It was like our first black president.

And even though I thought he was going to be a terrible president and you thought he was going to be a terrible president and everyone in this audience thought he was going to be a terrible president, There was still that piece of, like, well,

you know, there's a real cost to this because he's going to be a bad president, but at least it's good that, like, we can all put this race thing finally behind us.

Like, this is ridiculous.

Obviously, we elected a black president.

Yeah.

This is not a racist country.

Yeah.

Completely wrong.

Yeah.

But the total opposite way in every single part of the world.

The first president is like, I am powerless.

Yeah, right.

I am powerless.

I got here despite all the racists in the country.

And you're like, wait, what?

What?

What happened?

How did that?

What?

That's not.

Yeah, the Klan, they were they were out in force voting for Barack Obama, I guess.

I mean, how else did he win if we're all Klan's members?

Yeah.

Amazing.

Weird, weird, weird time.

Weird.

You know, every piece of medicine they've tried to apply to this problem has done the exact reverse.

But at least it's only in one category.

For instance,

it's not in like education.

You know, the more the progressive gets involved in education, the worse the education gets.

Okay, that's two

though.

That's all you have.

You have nothing else other than the situation.

Well, you know, we have the more they try to lower gas prices through regulation, the higher the gas price goes.

Well, sure.

I mean, that one's well known, but that's really about it.

You also have,

you know, this promise of equality.

And,

you know, blacks had and minorities had the best

they've ever had in success and prosperity under Donald Trump.

But now that they've promised that they were going to equalize things and make things better for the working class blacks and Hispanics,

they're no longer enjoying that prosperity.

Yeah.

It's a story today that's skyrocketing.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

So that's that's weird.

Wow.

It's a stunning.

It's weird.

It's almost like everything they touch turns to garbage.

I was going to use a different word than that.

You know,

hey, our

Inflation Reduction Act does the exact opposite.

Sure.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, you have a few thousand examples, and that's about it.

Okay, that's it.

You know, I only have everything

they do and say, how much we're going to reimagine the police and make our community safer.

Has that worked?

Oh,

no, no, no, works.

My question is, have you had enough yet?

Have you had enough yet?

Do you have enough evidence yet?

Because I do.

I've had it for quite some time, but you know, maybe I was just quick on the uptake on this particular

thousand issues.

But, you know,

when have you had enough?

And you realize, I think when you look at our major cities around the country, there's never a time they get it.

It never comes.

You could put the same people in office for a hundred years.

They have.

And they have, and they failed for a hundred years, and they will still elect the same people.

I know.

it's like it's incomprehensible.

Honestly, like, wouldn't you just try something else out of default?

Right?

Like, just like, you know, what I don't know.

Look, the whole low taxes freedom thing sounds terrible to me, but maybe we should give it a whirl,

right?

Like, isn't there a moment you consider that?

And the answer largely is no.

No, no.

They don't.

Never consider it.

New York, same thing.

And it kills me

the way New York is now reacting to the migrant problem.

Oh, my gosh, it is.

It's crippling New York City.

And they've got like, what, 35,000?

And it's just crippling them.

They can't handle it.

Have you been to Houston?

Have you been to Dallas?

Have you been to the border?

Have you been to Arizona?

I mean,

what are you talking about?

Have you been to California?

Yeah, because New York,

you don't even have to fly.

The only difference between you and Los Angeles now, palm trees.

That's it.

Oh, and snotty celebrities.

No, you've got enough snotty celebrities there.

It is fascinating to watch this because, of course, obviously places like Texas and other border states have been complaining about this forever and saying, like, we've got a real problem here.

No one's helping us.

And, you know, but

it's amazing to see like a few buses.

Like, this is what set you over the edge.

Your society was so close to the edge that a few buses of people that you said you wanted, by the way, which you point out, you were welcoming, you're a sanctuary city, you wanted this so badly.

A few buses show up from the south, and all of a sudden you can't run your society anymore.

You know, I will say, like, you know, Texas, for all it gets all, you know, all this beating about how these evil right-wingers and how they hate immigrants.

You know, like, look, our day-to-day life in Texas is

filled with interactions with illegal immigrants.

They live in our society, all around us, and like largely we just get along with them.

Now, we all realize there are societal issues with our law and how that works, but like generally speaking, like

we wish the law was applied better, but like they're if they're here, like you have interactions with them, they're they're like any other person.

We treat them like every other person, even though we don't think the law is being applied appropriately.

New York's like they see four people with like Hispanic last names and they just decide they're going to abandon the state.

Like, what is happening?

Why can't you figure this out?

Because here's the difference.

In Texas, generally speaking, you know, they'll go to work.

Yeah, exactly.

In New York, they go to the plaza.

And why would they go to work?

Why would you?

You know, in Texas, like, you do get, look, there are definitely people living off the dole.

Like, the criticisms we have of this system are real.

But, like, you're right.

A lot of people come here, even though they're not supposed to be here, and they shouldn't be here because they're breaking the law being here.

But they go every day and they work and they and they interact with people and have a relatively normal life.

And while there are major problems, somehow Texas has been able to do it without, by the way, a state income tax, I should point out.

They are somehow able to keep we're keeping this society running with, I don't know, 10 times, 20 times as many illegal immigrants and no state income tax.

And yet this place place runs 100 times better than New York.

I lived there.

I was born there.

I know.

It runs much, much better.

I've lived in both places.

It's not close.

So what is the problem?

I don't know.

Could it go back to the original part of this conversation?

No, I don't think so.

I mean, because look, our schools are safer now.

All of our schools, they're all saying, you know, we want children to feel safe, to express who they are and be safe.

And there's a teacher of the month, uh casey mcgrath she is fabulous just one teacher of the month uh you know and she's got this little thing she was raping a student at the time um but i think those are separate

what

she won teacher of the month in in the same month as this was going on well she was unlawfully and knowingly engaging in sexual uh penetration with a person of at least 13 years.

Okay, so

you know, was was it one of those things where like she had been doing this the month before and stopped and they said good improvement?

No, I don't know.

No, I don't I don't I don't think so.

I had another teacher in New York City who posted on social media about teaching children consent.

You know, we got to make sure that we teach our kids about consent and hey, they they can consent.

Apparently she taught it really well to a 14-year-old student.

She taught it to that 14-year-old student over and over and over again for many, many months.

A lot of dedication of the students.

A lot of dedication there.

So I don't know about you.

Again,

I'm going to promise you your kids are going to feel safe.

And,

well, they're not.

No, no, they're not.

That's weird.

Again,

name the policy, name the thing that they're saying they're trying to stop.

And show me the policy where it hasn't gotten a thousand times worse.

I'll let you think on that for 60 seconds back in a second.

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Wow.

By the way,

the left and CNN has just come out with a new report, speaking of education.

Since 2021, state lawmakers have introduced nearly 400 bills aimed at giving parents, government officials, and concerned citizens the ability to challenge or monitor what schools teach about race and gender issues, according to a new report.

While many of these laws stop short of directly censoring what is taught in classrooms,

the analysis now has found that many of the proposed bills have had a, quote, chilling effect on public education.

Uh-oh, that sounds sounds bad.

Educators told the advocacy group that they, the advocacy group, that they now fear that they could be held criminally liable and lose their jobs for teaching prohibited concepts.

You mean

so-called porn?

So you should be.

This is

in other words,

you are teaching children and you're afraid you might be arrested if you're teaching them about child mutilation.

Well, we just heard about a couple of teachers who were teaching their kids something very, very important.

In a very personal, very personal one-on-one sort of way.

As you point out over and over and over and over again.

So wow.

So yeah, you know what?

You can get arrested for that sort of behavior.

You know, that's weird as a teacher that you would have to worry about that.

Cause like, I don't worry about that.

Here at my job, I don't worry about that.

I say something, I teach something that is wholly inappropriate.

I don't worry about my job.

There's no way they could fire me.

You know, I could get on here and do anything I want.

Really?

Yeah.

And I think most people are like that in their jobs.

Yeah.

You know, they could have the, you know, the boss come into them and say, don't do this.

And they're like, I'll do whatever I want.

And

they don't get fired.

That's employment for you.

Yeah.

That's employed.

Teachers, I think you've, I think you have it.

I think you have it.

It's funny because it's the

left that really wanted to have centralized control of education.

And so they implement, you know, they work forever to expand the role of government in our schools.

And then someone else gets elected that they don't like, who now has that power.

They don't like it.

And they make decisions that they don't like.

Hey, hey, and it's a catastrophe.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, I have an idea.

I have an idea.

That's why you don't want to have a government that is so big that it tells you.

what you can and cannot do.

Yeah, I don't know about that.

That sounds bad.

I think what we want to do is just always get our guy elected for 100% of the time forever.

No, I don't think that's a naked idea.

You rule over us.

Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.

Think this.

Think this through, okay?

So you have a government that could not tell the local schools what to do,

but you had a local government that was strong enough to arrest people for having sex with teachers.

It's a balance.

It's a line.

It's a balance.

It's a balance.

It's impossible.

Yeah, okay.

Well, just...

You're saying in some sort of

futuristic world.

No, I'm thinking like right now, you know, would be good.

By the way,

the Biden administration is going to reduce your energy bills.

Ceiling fans now are the latest target of the EPA.

Ceiling fans have got to be rethought.

I thought we were supposed to turn off our air conditioning and turn on our ceiling fans.

No, it's not changing.

No, no, it's well, no, you're still part of it.

I mean, we're evolving.

Okay.

We're evolving.

So keep the air conditioning off.

Okay.

And don't turn on your ceiling fan until you get a new one that hasn't been invented yet.

The energy department is requiring now

the ceiling fan industry to come up with one that's much more energy efficient.

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I'm talking about not another restriction.

I am talking about a household savings of $39

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you, you're talking about, right?

No, not all households combined.

Just that one household, your house, it'll save $39

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What is the life of a canned fan?

I feel like the life of a ceiling fan is infinite.

I've never replaced a ceiling fan, so I don't.

I had one that started spinning out of control at one point.

I thought it might decapitate one of my kids, so we did replace that one.

We didn't replace that one.

That's the only one I could ever think of.

Yeah.

I've never had that, so I don't think I've ever replaced one.

And I've had many a ceiling fan.

Yeah, like the life of a ceiling fan is longer than the life of a human, I think.

Why would we be

$39 over the life of the ceiling fan?

Over the life of the ceiling fan.

Now, let's be honest.

That's probably 20 years, longer than you'll live in that house.

It usually is, right?

Yeah.

But $39, think about this.

The money the government is pouring in for the development of these new ceiling fans, the money then you'll have to spend to replace that.

$39 savings.

With this inflation, $39 over a lifetime.

Wow.

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There's a couple of things going on to we should report.

First of all, the

power company, the Hawaiian Electric Company, has

removed all of the,

you know, all of the transformers and the poles and the wires.

And

some would call it evidence.

But they've removed all of that from the scene.

And they said

they only did that because, well, they don't own any of the land.

You know, they're just beyond the power substation.

So they wanted to clean it up, make sure that everything was good.

They said they took pictures, though.

So that's good.

That's good.

Yeah.

You know, picture is worth a thousand words, Glenn.

Yeah, it really is.

What a surprise.

This is a public-private partnership with the government, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm really surprised.

It didn't work out really well.

It never does.

Never does.

They never seem to do their job.

By the way, they only released, what was it, 300 names of the missing

on Friday.

There's 1,100.

people still missing.

And

I mean, I don't know why they're saying it that way.

It's, I mean, it's not that big of an island.

I hate to be, I don't mean to be callous on this, but it's not that big of an island.

It's not like, it's not like somebody, you know, is wandering off and is lost or whatever.

I mean, it's not that big.

And, you know, what it would, what would it be?

Somebody with Alzheimer's, maybe.

Okay.

Yeah, that's a possibility, right?

A kid, maybe.

maybe but i doubt it i mean yeah but it's possible theoretically possibly possible um Because, yeah, why would you be missing?

Or somebody who's like just trying to disappear.

Right, yeah.

You know, making their death.

I mean,

out of

that many missing, certainly don't understand.

Certainly not 5%, right?

No.

Like, what is the number here?

I mean, God, and you think about this, if all these people that are missing are gone, I mean, you know, this is a

horrible drug.

I mean, and this might be why they're holding it back.

Like, they don't want people to

really, you know, come to the point where they recognize what's happened here they say maybe i don't know i don't know what he knows

jp decker he is uh mercury one's executive director uh he was an executive producer for me and a producer for a very long time he's uh now over at mercury one and i believe you leave hawaii today do you not jp yes sir yeah yeah i leave tonight so is there any explanation why they are still holding these names

glenn i have um you know we've been here almost five days, and

that is one thing that every single local is confused on that we've spoken with.

I've spoken with a lot of people, and they said we don't trust anyone.

We do not trust what's coming out of the government.

We don't trust what's coming out of not just the state of Hawaii, but the county and then also our federal government.

How do they not?

I mean, that is terrifying that they don't even believe the county.

And

no, no, go ahead.

Well, it's just one word, though, about the locals

that's come up while we're talking with some of these stories are just, again, horrific.

But these are some of the most resilient people I've ever met in my life.

They, yesterday,

just a quick story.

Yesterday,

we connected with this surfer.

He's a pretty famous surfer on the island.

And they said, hey, you know, we're getting a shipment from one of the other islands of surfboards and fishing equipment and I I said well one we went and helped we were in the water we were pulling surfboards off the boat we were doing you know getting fishing supplies and I said what what is going on here and they said most of these kids lost their surfboards and the mental health crisis that is here right now from seeing people burning in cars from seeing their family members in their homes this is the only thing that's going to bring this community back to what we we know and we love and so this guy is going to take kids, surfboards that were donated from other islands.

And then the fishing supplies is just going to go to these local fishermen who lost literally everything.

These are the guys who go out and buy the fish for all the tourists.

And

speaking with these people, and for me, yesterday we were at church, Harvest Church, which is one of our partners.

And I was standing next to one of the worship leaders' wives who lost everything in this fire.

She's just bawling and crying out and they're singing this one of these songs and it's about how God is still in control in this disaster.

And

it was a powerful moment for me.

I think this is the first time that I finally broke down from seeing the damage and seeing what this city is going through.

And the one thing that really hits close to home is these are Americans.

These are our brothers and sisters.

This isn't just another story in the news cycle that's going to disappear.

These are our people.

And the fact that the government has

just decided to, one, block everyone from going back in still.

There's a few people that have been able to go back in and look at their homes.

But two,

I mean, we've gone past, we have to drive through part of Lahaina every single day.

if we want to get to another part of the island.

And you see the destruction and you smell the smoke still.

You smell the ashes And, you know, those black walls that are going up on the road that everyone says the government's covering up, the ashes, all this.

And it's what we've learned, what we've seen across the whole island, are those black walls are so the ashes in the teeth of whatever is left of any of those human remains don't go into the street and don't get lost.

It's just, it's devastating, Glenn.

Devastating.

I know, you know, people ran into the water.

And

how many people, I mean,

how far in the water did they go i hear some of them were in the water for eight or ten hours just treading water is that true oh yeah yeah glenn we we were uh with a couple people yesterday and there's a story of this teacher and the fire's coming down towards the ocean and she had to run to jump in the ocean with a group a big group of people She doesn't know how many, but a big group of people.

And they all jump in.

They treaded water and swam for up to eight hours,

and everyone around her drowned.

Oh, my gosh.

She's trying to rescue these people, these kids, these dads, these moms, these grandparents.

But

she couldn't do anything.

And so

she just tried to tread and swim, but everyone around her drowned.

They ended up finding her eight hours later alive, this lady, a mile off the coast.

This shouldn't have happened this way.

How did they murder the people?

Yeah,

where were the Coast Guard boats or whatever boats?

Why?

What happened?

Every single local that I have spoken to are asking the same question.

They're asking, you know, we've got installments all around this area on all these islands.

Where was the military?

And, you know, we've heard stories of some Navy SEALs coming in and, you know, just helping.

And then some Chinooks that came in and helped try to rescue.

And the Coast Guard came in later on to try to help.

But we did confirm with a couple locals who ran out that the police were so scared of the power lines that fell through the wind that people were not allowed to get out of Lahaina

during these fires because the police were blocking off because they didn't want them to run into the power lines that were still alive.

Which is the job of the power company that always happens.

A power line goes down and you shut everything off what why didn't they shut it off

they they had they don't they don't want to they haven't come out yet and said anything they don't want they don't want to incriminate i mean uh they don't want to say uh

the other day we were eating at a local restaurant and we smelled a fire and this was the one that kind of you probably might have heard about but there was a there's a pretty large grass fire that was going towards lahaina and so we smelled it um And then what's interesting though, we're at this restaurant and there's a FEMA person, there's a Red Cross person, there's a guy who lost everything,

and then there's a former Doctors Without Borders

person and she was here volunteering.

And the power goes out and all of our phones, emergency phone,

you know what that's like.

Everybody's phone goes off and it says evacuate.

One,

most of the people that are in that room didn't know quite quite what to do, which was interesting.

I mean uh and then the guy who lost his home, he just there's there's tears because what do you do on this island?

There is no escape route.

Lahayena is the escape route.

You go through that street.

There is no medical team on this side.

There's no hospital on this side of the island.

And I mean, you have to go 45 minutes if something were to happen.

And we've heard stories of of some of the burn victims who ended up getting in those, the two ambulances on this side of the island and died

in the ambulance trying to get to a hospital.

So, I mean, with what we're doing with Mercury One is incredible because within the first 48 hours, we sent

a tech team, one of our incredible partners, the name is ITDRC, and they showed up with Starlinks to provide internet for the community because for three or four days, most of these people had no way of communicating to the outside world that we're still alive to their families and friends in the mainland and one

why was it a non-profit that came in and provide internet and the government did nothing they ended up providing internet for the government and the community because they they told us the other day we can cut the red tape we have no red tape but the government has the red tape.

So that's why they come to us.

And, you know, we were one of the first ones with Sparrow's purse to send in a cargo plane of supplies, food, water.

And right now, this island doesn't need the food and water.

What they need is the mental health.

There's already been about five or six suicides.

And that's just when you lose everything.

Including your family.

Including your family.

And but the mental health side is something that we're going to be focused on.

And we spoke with a local restaurant owner the other day.

And he just, again, Glenn, you you know, we brought cameras to help tell the story of what Mercury One and our partners have been doing on the ground, what we're going to do, because we're not here just for a small amount of time.

We're here for the long haul.

We don't just, I mean, when you started this, you said we're the first ones in, last ones out.

That's what we do.

And so we, you know, I was talking with the restaurant, and he just breaks down.

And, you know, we didn't have the cameras with us.

And you see, you know, all these people have been coming in with cameras.

They've just been coming in and just want to take our story and then we just leave again.

And we've had business guys, this is what this guy said, businessmen come in with wads of cash, drop it on our table and say, I'll buy you out.

And I will just buy you out.

This guy has put up 20 of his staff in his restaurant.

He's been providing hundreds of meals a day to people.

I tried to offer some help and he said, I don't want help.

He goes, what I want is for you to help other people, you to help my neighbors.

And when we say 100% goes,

that's usually what I would tell tell these people, hey, we're not your normal nonprofit.

We're not a prophet who takes overhead.

We want to give 100% to this island.

And that's what we do.

That's the most powerful thing that, and they're shocked at it.

They say, no, no, no, I know you take overhead all this.

No, we don't.

But I think, you know, anyways, I know I'm telling so many different stories, but this is one for me personally.

It's changed my life on what community looks like.

These people are exactly what community is.

They're the definition of Ohana, which means family.

And that is community.

JP, thank you so much.

Mercury One executive director coming home today.

But as he said,

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We have Neil Howong coming up in just a second.

He's a historian.

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Generations, the 13th Generation, The Fourth Turning, Millennials Rising.

This is the book that came out in

the 90s where they were talking about how America is about to go into crisis.

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America as we know it.

This is what they were saying back in the 90s.

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I think, give us a very hopeful message because of what the next generation

is capable of.

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I do because of the fourth turning.

So he's going to be joining us here in just a minute.

His latest book is called The Fourth Turning is Here.

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And I don't necessarily want to know what it is.

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I have wanted to talk to Neil Howe for I don't know how many years.

Just never had the chance to do it.

He has a new book out called The Fourth Turning is Here.

The Fourth Turning is something that he wrote back in 97, I think, with William Strauss.

It was an

incredibly impactful book.

This is where you get the millennials, the millennial generation, is from Howe and Strauss.

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Neil, welcome to the program.

I am a huge fan.

Your book, The Fourth Turning,

made a huge impact in my life.

Oh, thank you, Glenn.

It's great to be on your show.

Thank you.

So the fourth turning is here.

I have been reading and I

Before we get to the fourth turning is here, can you explain the turnings, if if you will?

Yeah, this was

something that Bill and I developed.

Actually, we did an earlier book back in 1991 called Generations, and it was really looking at generations as the source of

a historical change, meaning, you know, generations are shaped differently.

You know, each generation is uniquely shaped by...

its childhood experiences and as it comes of age, right, it experiences coming of age.

And then

about 30 or 40 years later, as parents and leaders, they in turn shape history, right?

And we, Generations is the first collective biography of America that anyone had ever written.

That is to say, retelling the entire story of America as a sequence of generational biographies, right?

In other words, following the same group of people.

throughout their entire life and then starting with the next group of people.

And what we found was that generations are very different.

This has always been true.

It's not just, you know, Xers and boomers or millennials and Xers that we're accustomed to today, or boomers and their World War II parents, right?

These differences have been with us since the founding, since the 17th century.

And

what occurred to us as we were writing that book is that this is the source of some of the

otherwise unexplainable regularities in the rhythms of american history i mean for example the fact that we have these enormous periods of civic creative destruction when the entire country goes through a an upheaval of of you know politics and economics we really redefine what our republic is and this happens about the length of a long human life apart right we had this period of revolution and rebellion in the late 17th century,

kind of coinciding with the Glorious Revolution.

And then about a lifetime later, we had the American Revolution, then we had the Civil War, then we had World War II and the Great Depression.

And here we are again, Glenn.

You know what I mean?

This is like the ticking of a talk, you know, or a clock.

And roughly halfway in between these upheavals in the outer world, when we redefine politics and economics and infrastructure and all that, we have these upheavals in the inner world, which very conveniently in American history we number.

So we called them the First Great Awakening, the Second Great Awakening, and so forth.

And this struck us as having very interesting generational roots, generational continuity, right?

Because it's generations that come of age during an awakening that later in old age usually take America into the next crisis.

And generations which

come of age during a crisis usually preside over the next awakening later in life and and this has been true since

you know Ralph Waldo Emerson and and and and Walt Whitman a generation of prophets and religion founders and and and you know commune leaders and who took us into the Civil War and it it was true for the generation born just after the Civil War who who took us really were the wise old men and women of the World War II era.

But it suggests

a rhythm.

And that's what we wanted to write about.

Now, this rhythm has four phases.

It's kind of like seasons of the year.

If you look at

the spring season, this is the period in which

institutions are strong, individualism is weak.

And this is what we,

recently in American history,

we all recall the American high.

This was after World War II, right?

This was the presidencies of Truman and Eisenhower and John Kennedy.

Society had a very definite idea of where it wanted to go collectively, but as individuals, we were very modest, right, about what we wanted.

It was, as William White wrote in the organization, man, people had a strong social ethic.

The duty of each individual was to fit in.

I mean, that's what you were supposed to do, right?

Each person had a job to do based on gender, based on

your aptitude for a different kind of profession.

And that was it.

You didn't have much aspirations beyond that.

We were modest individually, but the nation did incredible things collectively.

I mean, everything from interstate highways to launching the Apollo moon launch program, you know, and

we managed to balance the budget every year, right?

while feeding the world and

presiding over that period of growing global order and prosperity.

The second turning was the awakening, and that was the period that many listeners probably remember, maybe as kids, this was the 60s, 70s, early 80s, and this was a period when all of America wanted to throw off all that social obligation, all that conformity, all those rules.

And this started really with,

started more on the left.

There's no question about that, mainly in the culture, throwing off, you know, patriarchy and military

conscription and all the rest.

And it ended, I think, a little bit more on the conservative side, you know, throwing out regulations, cutting taxes and all the rest.

And so,

but the one theme was we wanted to be a less ordered society.

We wanted individuals to kind of go more their own way.

And the biggest nightmare for boomers at that time was the oppressive middle class, right?

Pleasant Valley Sunday, that was their worst nightmare.

And you talk to millennials today, it's like middle class.

Sounds like a great idea.

Where do we sign up?

You see the difference, right?

And then you have the third turning, which is

we call an unraveling, and that's in many ways the opposite of a high.

Individualism is strong and flourishing.

Institutions are weak and discredited.

And when we think of paradigmatic decades of an unraveling, we think of the roaring 90s and the 1990s.

We also think of the roaring 20s, the 1850s, the 1760s.

These were all decades of cynicism and bad manners, acting out in the culture, disrespecting authority.

And in general,

the key book of the 1990s to me was Francis Fukuyama.

You remember the end of history.

We were all,

the government was going to fade away.

We would all be

individuals living wherever in the world we wanted, I guess, you know, on our laptops in a Starbucks somewhere, just contracting with each other and enjoying infinite possibilities, right?

We wouldn't have families, we wouldn't have roots, we wouldn't have, right?

That was the image, right, of

a world of individuals that wouldn't wouldn't need anything.

And so individualism totally triumphant, no institution or community left.

But history shows us that third turnings inevitably lead to fourth turnings.

And that's when instead of wanting to

rebel against order, society wants more order.

And that's what we're living into today.

And the cutting-edge generation for the awakening was boomers, but the cutting-edge generation now is millennials, and they want a more ordered life.

I mean, you see it.

They want more community.

Their greatest fear is loneliness.

It's FOMO.

You know what I mean?

And the way they invest is crowd investing.

I mean, they're all in these huge, you know,

everything ETFs, right?

So the market goes up or down.

They all go down, up and down together.

And the entire world is being buffeted by this.

And we see this in these new populist movements around the world, often overtly authoritarian because people want authority back again.

It's as simple as that.

And we've seen this before, and we're seeing it again.

And so the purpose of, as you know, the purpose of my writing the book is to is to take this up to date, to bring it up to today.

Right.

Right.

And to hypothesize a little bit on where we're going and what the schedule is and you know what they expect.

Okay, so

there's three theories out there that I have kind of melded into one.

Yours, and I don't know if you've read Michael Drew's work, Pendulum, How Past Generations Shape Our Present and Predict Our Future.

He describes it as a pendulum and describes much of what you guys worked out.

But he shows it's an 80-year cycle.

You're showing it's an 80-year cycle.

And then the third theory that I've always found interesting is the Kondrakyev wave, which is also an 80-year cycle.

And it's all spring,

summer, the arrogance of summer, it's never going to end into

fall.

You know, hey, let's deny this, deny this, deny this.

Oh, it looks like everything is dying to winter.

And then the green shoots again of spring.

And we are,

if I understand, we are now heading into winter, correct?

Yeah,

we're well into winter.

Well into winter.

Yeah, I mean, we started,

I think we entered this era.

I mean, these are eras.

These are generation-long eras.

So these are, you know, 22 years or so.

Right.

And we entered it with 2008, the global financial crisis, when we saw so many things begin to change.

We saw democracies decline at the expense of authoritarian governments.

We saw global trade begin to decline as a share of global product.

I mean, in many ways, it was analogous to 1929, right?

Which is also a great global, you know, financial collapse, right?

So

we've seen that, but we still have a ways to go.

Right.

And, you know, when Kondrakiev, who was Stalin's economic advisor, when he was asked what's better capitalism, communism, he said

it's seasonal and you look at things and capitalism is better because communism, when it starts to go cold into winter, the system props everything up.

And so the system falls apart in the end.

It can't prop up life.

It's got to go in through these cycles.

And we're doing that since 2008.

We're propping everything up so it doesn't go into a hard freeze, but we've bastardized everything.

And I'm wondering, do they always have to end in

like war?

Well, typically they have.

You know,

every total war in American history has occurred during a fourth turning.

And every fourth turning has had a total war.

So it's a pretty close correspondence.

I would say it, you know, I don't like to be a pessimist.

So I like to say what it what it precisely requires is not so much war.

What it requires is

collective mobilization

on a mass scale.

And it's really hard to see how you do that other than sort of organized conflict.

But what happens typically is that as society begins to reseek order, it begins to collectivize again.

Today we see in America blue zone, red zone, right?

I mean, this new tribal mentality.

This is what we saw during the 1930s.

Half of America thought that the 1930s was the red decade.

The other half thought it was the fascist decade.

You know what I'm talking about?

These are the people that said that, you know, Franklin Stalino Roosevelt, right?

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So one thing before we go on to where we're headed, it is interesting to me that America

has had these turnings along with all of the West.

For instance, American Revolution, the French Revolution.

World War II was the same,

you know, same thing that was happening over at Germany, was happening over here.

We had different results, but

there's the we generation and the me generation.

And these things generally happen, do they not, in the we generation

when

we're all collective.

We generations are

made, not born, right?

Yes.

I mean, and that's the important part.

So

how do we avoid going in when we have a collective mindset, going into something very un-American?

You know,

this has been a struggle since the beginning.

Every time, because America is, by its culture and by its heritage, an individualist kind of

society.

And

war has been difficult for that reason.

It was difficult for the revolutionaries.

George Washington implored

again and again

that Congress should

authorize him for this great continental army he needed to fight the British.

And of course, there were a lot of foot draggers and people who didn't want to do that, similarly in the Civil War, similarly

in World War II.

Roosevelt was very slow to be able to actually enact conscription.

Correct.

And we came very late to the table to

the fight against fascism.

And so it is a problem.

And forced turnings, by their very nature, of collective mobilization, put democracy to the test.

Right.

We're already seeing it today in America.

Yeah.

So democracy is the test.

With all of the things that are happening now, I've learned so much from you, I think, on what the role of people my age is supposed to be.

And I'd like you to take us through

what's coming and what each of us in our generations need to do and

show us the hero generation that is coming.

Because I think that is really heartening.

And when you have that understanding of what is coming with the hero generation, it takes some pressure off.

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He is the author of The Fourth Turning Is Here, a recent bestseller.

It is out and available, and I highly recommend you read it.

Neil, tell us what's coming and how best to prepare and what our roles are.

Well, what's coming is

the climax.

We've been in this period where tribal loyalties are deepening, America's relationships to certain other parts of the world are fraying.

Fears of American breakup and even the possibility of civil conflict is rising.

And history suggests that that should climax sometime in the next decade.

We think this period will be over and a new first turning will begin by the early 2030s, right?

So that gives us about a decade.

And

I think what you asked was the different roles generations will play, which is very interesting.

I mean, typically, what we call the prophet archetype, which is the aging

generation that comes of age during during the awakening, is typically,

as it was for Abraham Lincoln's generation, is a generation which is very dominant in the culture all their lives, as boomers have been.

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we didn't have a clue about our parents' music.

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You know what I mean?

And that sense of cultural dominance that boomers have always had.

Younger generations at this time of crisis will look to boomers for that cultural continuity.

In other words, what is America?

How do we get back to what it was?

And we often call this generation the producer of the great champions in history, you know, those leaders that galvanize all generations to behave for the common good.

The generation beneath that,

the Generation X, you know, those who came of age

in the 80s and 90s,

this would be the generation that's going to be squarely in midlife, right?

They're going to be

the generals, the admirals, they'll be the on,

they'll be on-the-scene leaders, actually practically determining

whether the fourth turning ends well or ends badly.

And they will be decisive.

They will be as decisive in determining how it ends as Omar Bradley and George Patton and Ridgway and Dwight Eisenhower were in determining how

that crisis ended.

So

they will have the critical role.

And it's interesting because so many Gen Xers coming of age thought that they were, you know, had no purpose.

They were kind of out there at the end of history and

they were a useless generation.

Can I tell you, I have felt in the shadow of the hippies my whole life, like the hippies just have screwed everything up and were constantly sweeping up after their mess.

And it now seems like, you know, you're talking about the

profit generation.

The profit generation has always let go at some point.

These guys, at least in the ruling class, are just hanging on till

way beyond their ability to do anything.

And it's like, when will the hippies let go?

When will they let go?

When will the hippies let go indeed?

And of course, they're getting older and older, aren't they, Glenn?

Right.

But they do let go, and that's when the energies are released, right?

And suddenly the Xers, which are a

generation of survivalists, pragmatists,

don't trust anything, but they know how to build stuff, right?

And they know how to get stuff done.

And interestingly enough, from their individualism, which they fostered in their, you know, a home alone childhood, they become leaders of a new community.

And that becomes a very interesting transition for them, right?

Because they become those who kind of lead America into a new era of

close community, of national community.

And then, of course, the millennial generation, the sheltered special kids, right,

as the GI generation was early in life, I mean, the GI generation was the first Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, and they were, you know, sheltered by the progressive movement.

And as kids, and they came of age to fight World War II, millennials will have the same transition, and they will transition into a generation that will be collectively the hero generation.

And of course, that will be their right of passage.

That will be their transformation.

It will turn a generation of

Oppenheimers, right?

We were talking earlier about that movie, but a generation which was filled with radicals and didn't know which direction to go back in the 1930s to a generation the majority of whom became the cornerstone of the American high, obviously in the late 40s and 50s.

And they were the founders of everything from the Berbia to

the kind of the black and white Ed Sullivan culture that everyone was sort of the stolid establishment that

boomers later rebelled from.

And that actually takes us into our description late in the book of what the next first turning will be like, right?

Very different from what we're experiencing today.

But as if you would look forward from the late 30s, who would have ever imagined the 1950s?

I mean, that would have been science fiction.

Sure.

So are you, so you're optimistic that

we may because it's

optimistic?

I think, you know, people sometimes say fourth turning, it sounds like end of the world and all this.

And I say, yes, it's an extremely challenging time.

And it is a time of struggle and it's a time of trial.

But the only thing worse than a fourth turning is not having a fourth turning.

Imagine the trends today continuing to just deepen.

You know, the sense of rootlessness, the sense of disempowerment by those who are poor and less educated, the sense of loss of community in America, imagine that just extends indefinitely.

I can't imagine a worse future than that, Clint.

Well, isn't that kind of what happened in

communist Russia?

I mean, it was just a continuation.

It never got any better.

You know,

it seems to me that the progressive movement is just kind of grabs on to everything and then just holds it as a group.

And it just seems to get worse and worse, at least this version of what's happening.

And I'm concerned that do we have the stuff

that held us together

in World War II or in the war

against slavery?

That's what everyone always wondered.

I mean, you look at the diary of John Adams, you know, back

in the early 1770s, and he just said, I'm filled with anxiety and dread.

We don't have the virtue.

We don't have the brains.

We don't have the economy.

How can we possibly win this struggle, right?

It seemed hopeless to him.

And that sense of despair as we go through

this

collective right of passage is the same that we feel in our personal lives, right?

When we go through a new and very challenging period.

But when we come out, we are transformed.

And we're usually transformed from the better.

And that's the positive side of it.

William James once wrote a famous, it was actually a speech he delivered at Sanford University early in the 20th century.

It was called the Moral Equivalent of War.

And he asked the question, you know, he said, yeah, war is great for, you know, bringing us together as a state, and it teaches young people to sacrifice for the community.

And he goes through all of its advantages.

And he said, could we invent anything else?

And by the end of the essay,

you kind of wonder whether he actually believes it's possible.

But he asked his audience at one point, does anyone here believe that America

would you have wished that the Civil War had never happened?

It's kind of an interesting question back then, because, of course, a lot of the people of Civil War are still in in the audience, right?

And he answers his own question.

He said, I'm sure that none of you would have wished the Civil War had never happened because we could not imagine the sense of progress, the sense of nationalism, the industrialism, you know, everything that has brought us together, made us a dynamic nation, had the Civil War not happened, right?

It's kind of an interesting statement he made back then in 1906.

And yet then he asked the question, does anyone want such a thing to happen again?

And he says, I'm sure almost none of you, all of you would say, no.

But isn't that the same way we feel about our personal lives?

If you ask,

would you wish that some traumatic event, I don't care what it is, maybe you lost, maybe a divorce, you lost a spouse, you lost your business, I don't care what it is.

But you ask people, would they wish that it had never have happened?

And on reflection, they'll probably say, no.

I became a better person.

I became a wiser person.

I became a deeper person because of it.

And I think it's much the same for us collectively, Glenn.

So that is really hopeful.

And

I love your book

because I am filled with hope and I am filled with hope for the younger generations.

But I can't get past this.

What makes us different

than Germany?

As I'm looking at the German, you know, starting at World War I,

what they went through and demoralized.

And I mean, many of the same seeds are happening.

And I don't know, you know, left or right.

It doesn't matter.

It's wrong on both sides.

How do we,

what gives you the hope or

what is different about us than

they were?

I mean, they were people too and a republic.

You know, look, I believe in our national culture, and I look at our track record, which historically has been very successful.

And I would say this, that when you talk about Germany and Japan or even Korea coming out of the last fourth turning, America played a huge role in setting them on a better course.

And I think it's interesting, Glenn, that you look back over the last 10 years, you know, in Iraq and Afghanistan, everyone's saying, you can't build nations.

There's no such thing as nation building.

Well, as I recall, in the last fourth turning, America did a pretty darn good job.

I mean, look at those nations and what they became.

I mean, they were certainly different.

And it was largely due to our occupation and our guidance.

I mean, I hate to say it, but

the post-war era

would have been very different for all of us, all of our generations, had we not produced a better world in the wake of

the A-bomb, right?

um and i think we did do the right thing and i think we did produce a better world

i am uh i'm glad to talk to you and i would love to have you in for a podcast because there's so much more to cover uh there is a lot yeah

we could even talk more about kondratiev because he's an old uh he's an old uh hero of mine oh really there's a lot oh good um well let's uh if we can let's schedule something uh sooner rather than later because i think your voice is is so important.

It is, again, as I said at the beginning, it's played a huge role in my understanding and my hanging on to hope, quite honestly.

So, thank you for that.

Thanks, Gwen.

You bet.

You bet.

Neil Howe, he is the

author of The Fourth Turning is Here.

He's written several books.

Fourth Turning is the one that's probably the most famous, that, and

generations that he wrote early on.

But his new book is The Fourth Turning is Here, a Must Read.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That'd be great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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I don't know if you saw all of the

rappers and everybody else saying this is the Bill Clinton thing.

Remember, Bill Clinton became the first black American president because he was caught, you know, having sex in the oval and

then lying about it, and the man came after him, and that's why they called him the first black president.

I mean, I remember hearing that phrase, but I did not know.

I just thought, you know,

because he played the saxophone or something.

No, no.

It was because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

African Americans identified with him being persecuted.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

That's why they called him that.

When actually the first black president was Barack Obama.

But really?

Yes.

Yes.

Not Bill Clinton.

Wow.

So

it looks like the same thing is happening with the African American community, except

there is something

more

important than just him being persecuted.

It's the actual stats.

U.S.

Census Bureau estimated under the Kennedy administration, more than 45% of non-whites were living under the poverty line.

45%

of those of a different color than white.

Lowest ever recorded

percentage of black families living under the threat of hunger, crime, and disease.

Went from 45%.

percent in the Kennedy era all the way down to 16.13%

under the Trump administration.

He didn't do a war on poverty.

He just said, hey, everybody, go out, get a job, and I'm going to cut some regulations for you so it'll be good for business.

Hey, believe in yourself.

And poverty went down in the black community to 16.3%.

Now,

It is at 19.5.

Now, you'd say, well, that started during COVID.

Yes, it did.

The African-American poverty rate was at 19.5 because of COVID.

Now the president has worked his magic and it is

19.5.

So

zero improvement for the African-American community, which

I don't know.

I think that matters.

This is one of the most effective policies of the left.

Usually it makes things worse.

If it kept it even,

that's incredible.

No, it didn't get much, much worse.

No, it did not.

Wow.

Yeah, it did not.

So, well, you're right then.

You know, I should look at the silver line.

This sunny side guy.

Because there's really nothing.

Let's go through it.

Defense, worse.

Oh, yeah.

World standing, demonstrably worse.

Economy, worse.

The inflation rate.

Wait, what if you compare it to the worst of of april 2020 let's let's release some ads about bidenomics that compare today to april 2020 and see what happens don't get me started with bidenomics have you seen the white house by a only a clip okay only a clip of it this is the president i just want you to listen to that because i really thought this was a bit and i was looking at the president thinking wow cgi has gotten so good yeah okay and the reason why not what he was saying, but how he was saying it.

You know, because at some point he's like, and I'm very energetic about doing all this great stuff.

Yeah, because this is a whiteboard video.

And to understand it visually, because it's important to understand what it looks like if you were listening on the radio.

It is a, it's Biden standing in front of a whiteboard, a traditional whiteboard that you'd have in a business meeting.

Except he's not using the whiteboard at all.

It's seemingly just set up like it's a screen, and then they're putting graphics on the whiteboard in post-production.

Post too.

It gets better.

It gets better than that.

But my point, before we get to the video,

to back up what you're saying here

is that this is a produced video.

Yeah,

he could have cut all of these lines 30 times, right?

And then they could have made it incredibly interesting.

This is the best they could get out of this guy.

This is not like an off-the-cuff press conference where he's tired coming off a plane.

No.

This is him in full performance mode.

Yes.

This is him in re-election.

I'm ready for the next four years.

This is supposed to convince you to be excited, vote, and donate to his campaign.

Right.

Here it is.

I want to share with you my economic vision to grow our economy.

Stop.

Stop.

I want to share with you my what?

Economic vision to grow our economy.

Okay.

And the great part, as that's happening, there's this really awkward, slow zoom in on an empty whiteboard, and you just see his left hand in the shot still.

I was like, what is going on?

They have every person in Hollywood.

None of them can work right now.

They're all free available.

Everyone's on strike.

There's no production going on.

They couldn't get anyone here to make the speaker.

They're saying, why spend the money?

He's gotten here with just being in the basement.

How much will they tolerate?

Go ahead.

To grow our economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top-down.

He's not even in the shot.

No.

Trickle-down economics is the belief

that we should trickle down economics

and big corporations and expect it to trickle down to everyone else.

That we should shrink public investment in roads, bridges, and water ships.

He looks like a corpse.

He legitimately looks like he is in a haunted house right now.

This is the guy that when you walk like Jeff Dunham's angry old man, puppy.

He really does.

He looks like you'd come into like a haunted mansion and

he'd be like just standing there in the corner and you wouldn't notice him and you'd turn around and he'd be there and like, you know, he's holding like a

platter with like a head on it.

That's right.

It looks like that.

It's really creepy.

Except he's not

scary because you don't think he could chase you.

No.

You know what I mean?

You'd have to actually lift the axe up, put it on your neck, and then hope that he fell over on the axe.

Right.

And it probably still wouldn't kill you, but you'd have a bad scratch on your neck.

You would be able to escape with a leisurely stroll.

That I will say.

Yes.

Yes.

Or a toddler's crawl.

Here we go.

Go ahead.

Blew up the deficit, increased inequity, and weakened the infrastructure of America.

Okay, trickled down.

And it made it harder for folks to get to the middle class.

That's until now.

This is just, we stop for a second.

Just to fact check this.

Yeah.

The middle class is disappearing.

People say this all the time.

This is actually true, right?

Like this is a provable fact.

But where are they going?

They are going through this period he's complaining about, not his presidency, unfortunately, but the period he's complaining about, the rise of Reaganomics, trickle-down economics.

They are leaving the middle class and they are going to the upper middle class.

That is, you can see it over and over and over again.

When you break it into the five quintiles, they're coming out of the middle quintile and going to the upper middle quintile.

This has happened, it's proven

now.

It's reversing itself when they're implementing their plan because they're going to fix it.

But like people leaving the middle class is good if they're going up.

Yes.

Right?

Like, that's what you want.

And leaving the lower class and going to the middle.

The people who are being replaced are going to be a middle class.

The 45% that

were below the poverty line.

And under Trump, it was 16%.

They didn't go into an invisible group.

They went into a either lower

middle class or middle class group.

Yeah.

Improving their lot in life.

Yeah.

But if you compare it to April 2020, no one had a job.

It's crazy how bad these are.

I mean, it's just,

I just,

I really don't understand it.

By the way, there's a huge mural now in Atlanta of Trump's

mugshot.

I mean, I think this is going to be.

I don't know how to take...

It's interesting.

I mean, one of the first polls came out since the debate happened, and Trump is down six points.

DeSantis is up eight points, and Haley is up six points.

We're going to talk to Donald Trump tomorrow, by the way, about this.

He's on the air with us tomorrow, so we can ask him about all of this.

But

there is, I think, a weird thing going on on the right right now, trying to figure out how to deal with this, because it's like you have to, to, you want to be defensive of a guy who's being persecuted.

Yeah, that's a natural response to that.

And at the same time, people are looking at this and saying, Well, how does this all play out?

We know that they're coming after him, and I don't want to, you know, I'm worried about going down this road.

And then, what if he does lose?

What if they do throw him in prison?

What happens to our country?

We get this guy again for four more years.

It's a tough, it's a tough thing to work through for a lot of people.

And, you know, the problem is we almost need

like two presidents for this next job.

And, you know, I know we can't have one, but

he is so focused on what he's going through because, and rightfully so, he has to be, but also for the rest of America.

What's happening to him is just a foretelling of what's going to happen to us if they're allowed to get away with it.

You know, look at what Elon Musk, what's happening.

DOJ is going after Elon Musk now because, you know, he refuses to put minorities in space.

But I think a lot of New Yorkers would say, if that's where they can keep them, that's okay.

Right, New York, you love them.

That's Kathy Hochl.

Yeah.

Anyway,

you know, he is fighting this massive corruption.

How the president is going to be able to fight for himself

and fight against the DOJ.

and all of the corruption that is in the deep state,

that's a hard job.

It's going to be really, really difficult.

And it's going to be fascinating to watch it play out.

I know we say that often, but it's true.

Like I, this could go a thousand different directions.

Oh, yeah.

I have no idea, really, honestly, at the end of the day, how this is going to look in a year.

No, a hobbit wearing the one ring to rule them all could be the next president.

Could be.

There you go.

Could be.

Giants step up.

Hey, I got this rig.

I'm wearing it.

It's my precious.

Vote for me.

And everybody suddenly would just go, you know what could happen I like my precious sure sure at any point at any point it could happen I don't I it really is fascinating to see like we don't know you know I was trying to think we're we were talking about this on the election uh

post show

after excuse me the debate post show the other night on blaze TV and we're I was like give me your percentage right now if you're looking at the field you go

Trump DeSantis and the rest of the field give me percentage odds of all of them and you start working through that.

And you're like, obviously, Trump's the heavy favorite.

He's way ahead and, you know, still in every poll, even early states.

DeSantis, I think, thought equated himself pretty well, equipped himself pretty well in that debate.

And he was,

you know,

seemingly has done pretty well in the polls afterward.

You know, you saw like Nikki Haley.

Seemingly people liked her performance.

Some people liked Vivek.

It was sort of split on Vivek.

But you go through that.

Why is he under attack now?

He really is.

But you can come up with like a percentage of how you break that out.

And then you have to stop and think, well, what if they put Donald Trump in prison?

Does that make him more likely to get the nomination?

Does it make him less likely to get the nomination?

Do you have to change completely your percentages and how this breaks out?

You almost have to game plan this

different ways.

It's like a flowchart.

You're going down these roads and you don't know which way to go.

I think you just vote for the person you believe in.

Oh, I think that's the point.

You never think you should influence your vote, vote.

When you're game planning, it's just like...

I'm saying as an analyst to game planning to figure out what percentage chance a given candidate has, how can you answer the chance of Ron DeSantis when you don't know the answer of whether Donald Trump is going to be in prison or not?

And

you don't know how the American people will react to that.

That could make him a bigger

person.

I mean, no idea.

Yeah,

literally anything can happen.

Anything can happen.

I believe Carrot Top will be our next president.

I don't know how.

I just assume it's going to occur.

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So

I don't know if you saw what the Canadian foreign minister said.

I know you are a big fan of the Canadian Foreign Minister.

Oh, yeah.

McGroupie.

Yeah.

Melanie Jolly.

Oh, Melanie.

Yes.

I knew the name.

You didn't need to say the name.

I'm just saying.

Some other people may have needed to hear the name.

So, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Jolly

said in an interview that Canada is working on, quote, a game plan for the outcome of America's upcoming presidential election.

Canada is coming up with a game plan.

Apparently,

this is a quote.

Foreign affairs, this is a quote from the National Post.

Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Jolly says Canada has been considering a game plan for how it will respond if the United States takes a far-right authoritarian shift after next year's presidential election.

Now,

I'm trying to figure out, is that just Donald Trump or is that also that very fascistic governor of Florida?

And I've actually heard the extremist

worse than Donald Trump vivek.

Oh, I mean, everyone's always worse.

When they become a threat, they become worse.

Canada will be okay if we elect Asa Hutchinson.

Really?

Yeah, they're going to be okay.

I doubt it.

Honestly, if Asa somehow gets the nomination, which is not going to occur, but if he did, they would say he's more dangerous than Donald Trump, too.

She reportedly added, I will work with my colleagues and with the mayors, the provincial premiers, and with the business community and with the unions and everyone in the country.

So we are regardless, rather,

regardless of the election outcome.

Yeah, here's your plan, Canada.

This is how it works.

You say, congratulations to Philin Name as they've won the next presidency of the United States.

We are encouraged and excited to work work with him or her in the future.

That's kind of the time to do it.

That's your plan.

I don't know.

I mean,

it's kind of like our plan.

I mean, I don't think we have, you know, nobody's ever drawn up war plans against Canada because we don't need to.

We just go and take over.

That's how it,

here's our big strategy session on how to do it.

I don't know.

Trudeau's tough.

And at any point, he could

into blackface, and who knows?

I'm going to give you such a slap.

I'm going to do it, America.

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You know, I don't know how I feel

about this story.

Israel TV's Channel 12 News released an investigative report about the five red heifers that were just brought to the Jewish state last September and the supposed funneling of government funds to construct the third temple.

Now, for those of you who know how the story ends,

this could be a very exciting time.

It could also be a very terrifying time.

Last month, a journalist tweeted about an experiment conducted

by Bar-Ilan University professor Amar, who attempted to determine how many people could be ritually purified by one red heifer.

Apparently, one has enough to purify 660 billion

people, which, you know, there's not that many.

So I don't know why they got the other three had red heifers.

But apparently, there's reports now on Israeli TV claiming that there are plans and everything is in place to rebuild the third temple, which means, if I understand it correctly, that that building there on the temple mount now, it's got a gold dome, I don't remember what it is exactly, would have to be deconstructed in some way or another.

I just, I just

not sure.

I think that's a big stumbling block.

Really?

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I think it's one that's coming.

I don't know when, but, you know, you could be prepared.

But, you know, it's like,

I'm going to marry, I'm going to marry Stu's wife someday.

I've already got the tuxedo.

I've, I've got everything ready.

Except you haven't really talked to Lisa about it yet.

She's still married to Stu and happily married.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, let's not go crazy for the analogy here.

You know, you you exaggerate things for the audience, but I know I know what you mean.

Yeah, I know what you're trying to say there.

I will say that having the extra three heifers, it's good to be prepared.

It is, you know, it is.

It's always good to have a little bit extra.

I'd like to see the number of how many purifications it can perform a little bit farther away from 660.

You know, just a little bit farther away.

I mean, is that accurate?

Could it be maybe

six more?

I mean, I'd prefer six less,

but I'm just

saying.

I'm just saying.

So

Joe Biden

is now talking about everybody getting the new COVID-19 vaccine, and he's requested more funding from Congress.

How is this a story?

How is it happening?

I don't understand.

We have this system in the United States.

This is my understanding of the system.

You tell me where I have it wrong because I definitely have it wrong.

Yeah, you do.

Like,

there are things

the federal government.

There's the federal government.

That's how you get it.

That's how you got it.

Okay, good.

There are things that happen in life, right?

They're called illnesses, disease, ailments, all sorts of things.

And companies make things that they believe will

help alleviate the symptoms, cure them, make all sorts of medicines for all sorts of things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I understand that.

They release them.

You go and buy them.

You get prescribed these medications.

You decide, you make the choice as to what you want to do with them, right?

That's how it's that's how it's always worked.

Right.

Now, I understand that a pandemic and what we dealt with with COVID was a little bit different than that.

And there was a sort of a rush to, hey, we, the government needs to pay for this

because, you know, we all like it's an emergency and blah, blah, blah.

Okay.

All right.

We were there.

We kind of remember that going on.

But like, it's 2023 now.

Yeah.

Why would why would Joe Biden have anything to do with them releasing a new vaccine?

If they want to release a new vaccine.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

You're saying, if I may, paraphrase, Glenn, where is the pharmaceutical arm of the government in the Constitution?

Yes.

Is that what you're saying?

What is that?

Yeah.

Because, like, if Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson ⁇ Johnson

or any company wants to make a COVID vaccine and put it on the market and

let people decide whether they want to take it or not.

That's a process I understand.

The process I don't understand is how we now infinitely pay

for all of these vaccines.

Like,

why?

Why are we?

Why?

Like, but why?

Come to me as a child.

And a child always asks.

Why?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, doctor, and I'm going to butcher the name, Dr.

Jay Bhattachara.

Bhattacharya.

We've had him on the show, haven't we?

I think we have.

You probably butchered his name when he was on the show, sure.

I'm sure I did.

Just a professor of medicine at Stanford, one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.

He said

the president's comments that all Americans will likely be advised to get a new COVID vaccine as new variants spread is, quote, irresponsible.

He said

the president said, I signed off this morning on a proposal we have to present to Congress a request for additional funding.

Again, why?

Why?

Why?

We don't need any more funding.

Tentatively, not decided finally yet.

Tentatively, it is recommended, and it would likely be recommended that everybody get it, no matter whether they got it before.

The good doctor said,

you know,

it's never occurred to me that an American president would be the number one spokesperson for a pharmaceutical company, but here we are.

It's irresponsible to make this kind of public health advice for the entire American public in the absence of excellent

randomized trial evidence.

We don't even have

done with this vaccine yet?

No.

Let alone have it tested.

Like, I don't even think they're done with it yet.

Yeah.

I think they just are getting to the point where they're, you know, like

putting it into these tests.

Again, that's, that's the problem that I pointed out on Friday's program when I played the commercial for

the very long series of disclaimers.

Which it was 50 seconds of disclaimer.

disclaimer of the one minute five zero yeah five zero 50 seconds oh oh ozamic

could cause death right i mean that's really pretty much what it is despite the fact that these studies what they're talking about are incredibly rare side effects correct affect almost no one who actually takes the medication but they still have to jam it into every commercial they do for the product correct because

Because the federal government requires it.

This one doesn't even need a study.

Bro, look, we're fine.

You're going to be fine.

Shut up.

Stop your belly aching or I'll give you something to belly ache about.

That's what the government has become.

It's such a weird, like, it doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make any sense.

And, you know, you want to, like, luckily, I think we're in a, at a place at this point where we can do with the government's advice what we do with all of their other advice when it comes to what we put in our body.

Ignore it completely.

Like, when's the last time you looked at the food pyramid?

I think they even changed it a few years ago under Obama, didn't they?

Into something else.

I don't know.

I don't care.

They can recommend whatever they want.

That is not, you know, at least it's not them saying they're going to mandate it or anything like that.

But even the recommendation is sort of silly at this point.

Like, I don't know.

If you happen to be in a certain circumstance and

you're like, you know what?

This seems like it's the right thing for me.

Then you do it.

You do it.

Joe doesn't do it for you.

Yeah.

Cut down in the prime of his life,

Bob Barker.

We lost him when the price is right.

You could have have broken that to us a little bit easier.

Hey, Bob Barker's up on the roof.

What?

I don't know.

Why is he on a roof?

Why would he be

why?

Why are we?

You don't know that joke.

Barb Barker passed away 99 years old.

Yes.

Complete shock.

So, sometime, you know, shortly after, he heard Bob Barker, come on down.

What is happening?

Did we just insert a segment from a different show?

What is going on?

Also,

also,

also,

we lost Joe the Plumber this weekend.

That was really sad.

Really sad.

Bob lived a very full life.

Sure did.

He was 99 years old.

But Joe, I mean, what a terrible thing.

I mean, he was, what, only 49 years old?

Yeah, 49.

This audience, by the way, made a huge difference in the last days of his life.

I got, in fact, do I have that email?

I got a couple of emails

after it after it happened.

And

they wanted me to honor you and tell you, I don't have it, but tell you that

when he was on the show a month ago.

Wasn't that long ago?

Yeah.

He was on the program.

We talked to him and

you know, he said he was worried about his family stability.

And, you know, he's 49 years old.

and uh and so we asked you to give and you gave a lot uh and uh his family reached out and wanted you to know how much of a difference that you made in his uh last few weeks of life man i understand why he was able to move back closer to his extended family with yeah and the yeah and the it just

he had a good few weeks man geez i mean you know, his story is such an American story, right?

Like,

you think about other countries with kings and queens.

There's not like a story where one guy has a conversation with the king as they're walking down the street and changes the dynamic, you know, and changes the conversation in the entire country.

He was able to do that.

And then once again, at the end of his life, like...

There's very few countries where I think that would happen, where a person who's very sick,

you know, has so many people who don't know him reach out and change the last few days of his life.

I mean,

it's this really sad story, but has a lot of,

there's something to take from it as well.

By the way, those stories do happen in other countries.

They usually end in beheadings, but

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And beheaded them.

And it usually comes after walking down the street with the king saying, you know what?

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So there's

a new trial date for Donald Trump.

And

it's

the federal January 6th charges, election interference.

Okay, all right.

The federal one, not the Georgia one.

Okay, so this is a federal, because the Georgia one is coming, I think, when the RNC is actually having the problem.

Yeah.

But this one for January 6th happens.

No big deal.

It's the day.

Now, it is a very tightly contested primary, actually, caucus in North Dakota against Doug Bergham.

So, who knows what's going to happen there?

Right.

Also, it's the day before Super Tuesday.

I mean, how transparent can they be on this?

I mean, it's the day

before.

You want to talk about with a straight face, we don't want to do anything that could influence an election.

The day before.

Okay.

This is a crime.

I mean, it's

so bad.

Unbelievable.

So, yeah, I mean, so Super Tuesday, you have Alabama, Alaska, American Samoa, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, all on the same day.

And they're putting him to trial the day before,

also the day that North Dakota's caucus.

I mean, I have to tell you, I mean,

honestly, Stu.

Honestly.

Honestly.

They act as if.

They

just know they could beat him.

I don't know if we could beat anybody else, but we could certainly beat him.

Right.

And they want him.

Because you're going to vote the very next day.

What's going to be on your mind?

This government is out of control.

Control.

Every Republican primary voter is going to be thinking that way, I think.

So, I, and then they want to put him in jail.

You and I talked about it last week.

There's

no way.

There's no way they're going to let up on this guy.

No way.

It certainly doesn't seem like it.

No.

You know, and so what, how do they fail here?

Do they go 0 for 91?

i don't know every time they say well this is going to be the one that gets him uh you know and so far uh

no

it's not the one they're just digging a hole deeper and deeper for themselves i think but i don't i don't know and by the way where the hell are the republicans i keep hearing that you know we're gonna look into

you're gonna

Look at what's happening.

Look at what's happening.

You're telling me there's nothing you can do.

You don't hold any purse strings?

This is out of control.

It is out of control.

And I don't know what, like, you don't, it's difficult to figure out what goes on here because if we, if what we believe what we say, we believe, you've done a million shows on the deep state and how serious they do these things, and they'll go to any lengths to

trample this entire process.

If you really do believe that, how do you believe that they go 0 for 91 and this guy's walking around doing debates

against Joe Biden?

How does that happen?

They're going to put him in prison.

If they are who we've said they are, this is what's going to occur at the end of this.

And then what do you want?

They want him to be the candidate and then put him in jail.

I'm convinced of it.

And then what?

Right.

Do the Republicans, honestly, would the Republicans try to figure out a way out of it and say, well, you know, when he's in prison, we can run and run somebody else.

I wouldn't be surprised at at that outcome.

I wouldn't either.

That would be a horrible outcome.

Oh,

I don't see any good outcomes coming out of this, right?

I don't know what the outcome could be that would be positive for this system.

You know, this is, we've had Jesse Kelly on the program before.

Let me give you this tweet from him.

Tell me if you agree with it.

He says, they're never going to let him be president again.

I'm sorry.

It's wrong.

It's awful.

It's unjust.

But it's true.

If you don't see that, you don't understand what you're dealing with.

I mean, I don't.

He's right.

I think he might be right, and then what?

What does that mean?

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