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Speaker 16 Pat Gray is going to be joining us here in a little bit to bring you through today's news.

Speaker 71 And

Speaker 55 look, it's debate week.

Speaker 72 We're here. This is it.

Speaker 73 Red alert.

Speaker 74 Panic.

Speaker 76 We are in the middle of this election.

Speaker 78 This is actually happening.

Speaker 80 Of course, Wednesday night is the big night for the debate.

Speaker 30 Happens on Fox News.

Speaker 69 Of course, we know Donald Trump is telling us he's not going to be there.

Speaker 83 He's going to do an interview with Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 68 And,

Speaker 25 you know,

Speaker 8 we should get into the conversation as to whether that's a good decision and whether it's not.

Speaker 67 I can certainly understand it, and we'll get into that here in just a couple of seconds.

Speaker 85 But you look at this race as it shapes up, and we enter a race in which we have

Speaker 30 a few tiers of candidates, but in the top tier, there's only one candidate.

Speaker 86 I mean, it's Donald Trump.

Speaker 23 He leads by a wide margin.

Speaker 16 New poll out from NBC News and

Speaker 88 kind of the

Speaker 90 most respected pollster by the mainstream media in Iowa has results out today.

Speaker 69 Donald Trump, 42%,

Speaker 71 Ron DeSantis at 19.

Speaker 44 Tim Scott at 9%, Nikki Haley and Mike Pence at 6%, Chris Christie, 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%,

Speaker 8 Doug Bergamentum at 2%,

Speaker 89 and Will Hurd at 1%.

Speaker 93 And I don't know what the Republicans, you know, you never can understand these things.

Speaker 100 They make these rules up about people getting into these debates and they make the restrictions so strange here, you know, not to get into the minutiae of it, but you have to get into, I think it's three polls, three national polls where you show up at 1%.

Speaker 36 I mean, I don't know, 1%, that's enough to get on the debate stage.

Speaker 103 Okay, it's early.

Speaker 104 Maybe make the argument.

Speaker 58 Everyone should at least get a shot.

Speaker 8 I can understand that.

Speaker 49 But now

Speaker 10 everyone's getting on the debate stage.

Speaker 8 There's a cocker spaniel I saw on the way in.

Speaker 105 He's now going to be on the debate stage.

Speaker 8 Everybody's getting on.

Speaker 27 Asa Hutchinson says he's now qualified for this.

Speaker 8 Now, we watched Asa Hutchinson bomb at the...

Speaker 67 at the candidate forum we did with the Blaze in Iowa a few weeks back.

Speaker 19 It's not like he's caught fire since then.

Speaker 52 He's just, he's had 1% in a couple of polls.

Speaker 74 And you're like, well, 1%?

Speaker 109 I mean, if you're mentioned, people by mistake get you to 1%.

Speaker 24 And not to mention, this whole process gives an inordinate amount of control to the media and the people doing the polls.

Speaker 115 If they don't include you in the poll, there's no way you'll get to 1%.

Speaker 48 An example of this, and maybe we'll get to this audio during today's program, is Larry Elder, who, look, you know, I don't know if Larry Elder is going to, it's going to be, it's a long shot for him to win the nomination, clearly.

Speaker 7 However, we all do know Larry Elder as a really good communicator, a really smart conservative, a guy who's been around for a long time, who knows these issues, who's clearly better than someone like Asa Hutchinson.

Speaker 109 And yet he's not included in many of these polls, so he doesn't get 1%.

Speaker 122 And of all the people they're going to throw on this debate stage, including people like Doug Bergham,

Speaker 124 Larry Larry Elder is not going to be there.

Speaker 109 He might be the strongest debater in the entire field, and he's not even going to be on stage.

Speaker 68 And we remember back from 2016 when there were 75 candidates,

Speaker 115 they broke that in.

Speaker 106 Remember this?

Speaker 126 They broke this into the main debate stage and then like the kiddie table, and they had all people at like 1% and 2% battle it out.

Speaker 22 in like the pre-show.

Speaker 128 It was mocked at the time, but honestly, like we're going to have nine or 10 people on the stage if this plays out the way we think it's going to play out.

Speaker 111 And do you get anything from a debate like that?

Speaker 101 Do you get anything from this?

Speaker 27 I understand why Donald Trump isn't going to show up at a debate like that.

Speaker 91 Why would he?

Speaker 101 What's the point of it?

Speaker 58 You get a bunch of people with 0% and 1%.

Speaker 104 battling at a game.

Speaker 122 You get, you know, Mayor Suarez from Miami going up against Doug Bergham, who's up against Asa Hutchinson.

Speaker 111 You know, there's a guy named Perry Johnson.

Speaker 127 You ever hear that name before?

Speaker 48 No?

Speaker 115 Have you listened to talk radio all the time and never heard the name Perry Johnson?

Speaker 130 I don't blame you for that.

Speaker 113 Who would know Perry Johnson?

Speaker 131 He's now claimed that he's qualified for the debate.

Speaker 101 He's running for president.

Speaker 132 He's just some guy.

Speaker 111 And apparently he's been mentioned in a couple of polls, hit 1% in those polls.

Speaker 34 You can manufacture donors, which is the other big qualification to this.

Speaker 16 Doug Bergham famously did this where

Speaker 134 he would offer you $20 gift cards if you gave him a $1 donation.

Speaker 58 So people did do that, which is a good,

Speaker 14 there's a cost-benefit analysis that makes sense for that donation, right?

Speaker 17 You're giving somebody $1, they're giving you $20.

Speaker 137 Most people went along with that.

Speaker 14 So he got to 40,000 donors.

Speaker 16 And 40,000 donors with some different state requirements, it's not that high.

Speaker 117 You could just pay for that, right?

Speaker 12 That's just a matter of whether you have money or not to pay for that.

Speaker 8 It's a sort of a meaningless standard.

Speaker 8 And so he got to

Speaker 12 that number, apparently, he claims.

Speaker 112 And now he may be on the debate stage too.

Speaker 23 We could have 10 people on the debate stage.

Speaker 132 And none of them are going to be Donald Trump, the guy who's actually winning.

Speaker 118 It really is.

Speaker 70 It's hard to overstate how ridiculous this process is getting.

Speaker 109 And I'm not saying it's easy.

Speaker 54 It is difficult.

Speaker 8 These guys are gamifying this.

Speaker 17 They're trying to beat the system so they can get on the stage in front of your eyeballs and hope that they will say some magical phrase.

Speaker 8 I mean, the path to this happening for Doug Bergham is super long,

Speaker 93 but you know, he's running for president.

Speaker 8 He's got a bunch of money to throw at the problem.

Speaker 12 Why not give it a shot?

Speaker 8 Now, I can make a lot of arguments why for the country, there's not really a reason to give it a shot because we're going to get very little out of this debate, I fear.

Speaker 8 I fear that, you know, we're not going to get much when it comes to candidates who actually have a chance to win the nomination. And look, we're at a different stage.

Speaker 24 You know, we've all talked about this before.

Speaker 16 Donald Trump was president of the United States.

Speaker 79 He's the most famous, I would argue, the most, the most famous person in the world.

Speaker 8 So that's a pretty good start for a campaign.

Speaker 136 He's got lots of money, lots of resources to throw at this.

Speaker 142 And he, you know, has been the leader since the beginning.

Speaker 112 And this has never really been a huge question.

Speaker 8 The question was whether there was someone else we should consider.

Speaker 92 And when this comes down to Donald Trump versus Joe Biden and or Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton, the decision for most people is pretty easy when it comes to conservatives.

Speaker 41 Obviously, we're not voting for that person, so we vote for the other person.

Speaker 129 When it comes to a primary, these are different flavors of conservatism, right?

Speaker 108 We're supposed to be sitting here thinking, hey, which one is going to do a better job?

Speaker 8 We know what Donald Trump did, did a lot of good things.

Speaker 117 There were some issues as well that that people didn't like.

Speaker 16 Maybe you don't like his spending policies.

Speaker 94 Maybe you didn't like that he tweets too much, whatever your problem is with Donald Trump.

Speaker 136 You have a chance to look at other conservatives, other possibilities to see if one is better.

Speaker 109 And that's supposed to be a sane process.

Speaker 27 It's not.

Speaker 55 It's turned into this reason to just hate everybody who agrees with you on most things.

Speaker 136 Oh, gosh, that person likes the candidate that I don't like.

Speaker 53 Therefore,

Speaker 123 they shall be murdered by me.

Speaker 11 Like, that's an idiotic way of looking at this, but it's what it's turned into.

Speaker 8 Primary season is the dumbest season.

Speaker 142 People lose their mind in this season.

Speaker 54 They just get so angry about every little thing.

Speaker 9 And I don't understand why it happens, but it happens.

Speaker 34 And that's where people are now.

Speaker 54 And so we enter this debate.

Speaker 27 I think a lot of people want to hear, okay, you know, what does Ronda Sandis have to say?

Speaker 54 What does Tim Scott have to say?

Speaker 80 What does Nikki Haley have to say?

Speaker 16 What does Vivek Ramaswamy have to say?

Speaker 9 You know, Ramaswamy's had some really good polls, especially online polls that have showed him to be surging.

Speaker 85 Is he the real deal?

Speaker 8 He's a really good communicator and a very solid candidate and a guy who we've had on the show a bunch of times.

Speaker 68 He knows his stuff.

Speaker 71 He's very good at speaking and can communicate these ideas in ways that other candidates fail to.

Speaker 101 And it's helped him quite a bit.

Speaker 54 He's exceeded expectations.

Speaker 58 I think if you look at the entire field, there's really only two candidates you can say that about.

Speaker 79 It's probably Vivek Ramaswamy and clearly Donald Trump, which I don't know that he's exceeded my expectations.

Speaker 52 I expected him to be ahead, maybe not by this much, but I did expect him to be leading at this point.

Speaker 8 But now we have a situation where the guy who will probably win the nomination isn't even going to be on the stage, and people like Asa Hutchinson will.

Speaker 44 You want to talk about dysfunction?

Speaker 41 We're right in the middle of this.

Speaker 13 And, you know, Donald Trump is talking about his decision to not go to this debate, and he seems to be hinting he's not going to go to any of them.

Speaker 104 Now, I don't know that people really believe that.

Speaker 35 I think if

Speaker 34 the race were to tighten, he would obviously go and debate in that situation, I think.

Speaker 33 I don't think there's any question about that. You know, if

Speaker 8 Ron DeSantis has some big moment in this debate and starts rising and gets within 10 points of him, you can be sure that Donald Trump's going to show up at the debate stage because he's going to want to try to crush him.

Speaker 13 And that will be really interesting.

Speaker 58 But we may need to wait for a moment like that to actually happen to get something interesting out of this. At least something helpful.

Speaker 80 At some level, Donald Trump kind of demands the news attention whenever he is in a room.

Speaker 21 So these guys do have a chance to make a difference.

Speaker 58 Maybe having their, you know, people having their eyeballs on them for a night does change people's perceptions. Maybe it leads to a breakout candidate.

Speaker 14 We see this every campaign cycle, usually.

Speaker 80 It would be surprising if what we saw was a Donald Trump runaway victory with no one ever even making a move.

Speaker 112 And I mean that more from

Speaker 145 outside of the top two, you have that field below of between

Speaker 26 eight and 12 candidates at this point.

Speaker 137 that one of them doesn't have a breakout moment.

Speaker 104 You know, if you remember, go back to the Democratic primary of 2020.

Speaker 97 You had your Pete Buttigieg moment.

Speaker 80 You had your Kamala Harris moment.

Speaker 14 You obviously had moments where Bernie Sanders was leading and Joe Biden was leading.

Speaker 22 And it seemed like, you know,

Speaker 75 there are ebbs and flows of these things.

Speaker 78 We haven't really had ebbs or flows.

Speaker 130 There's just been basically Donald Trump leading by somewhere between 20 and 50 points.

Speaker 41 And

Speaker 58 news for you, 20 points isn't close either.

Speaker 20 He's just been leading this entire time, and he has a real argument to say, why would I bother here?

Speaker 151 Let's go into that question here in just a second.

Speaker 16 Should Donald Trump, should he be at this debate?

Speaker 58 Would you go to this debate if you were him?

Speaker 81 And what can the other candidates do to try to make noise in a race against someone they're not even debating?

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Speaker 8 All right, the poll again that came out today, NBC News, Donald Trump, 42% in Iowa.

Speaker 106 Ron DeSantis, 19%, Tim Scott, 9%, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence at 6%, Chris Christie at 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%, Doug Bergham at 2, and Will Hurd at 1.

Speaker 79 And, you know, the question is, should Donald Trump show up for this debate?

Speaker 49 Now, I, as a,

Speaker 17 for selfish reasons, do want him to be at this debate.

Speaker 58 I would like to see this to break up into into the, I want the kiddie table back.

Speaker 112 I want, I want Doug Bergham and Asa Hutchinson all at the kiddie table.

Speaker 51 They can have their little debate before the debate if they're going to make the stage.

Speaker 52 And then have a serious conversation between the top, let's say, six or seven candidates, including Donald Trump.

Speaker 114 I would like him to be there.

Speaker 8 I think it's good for the country if he is there.

Speaker 58 I think it's good for the conservative movement if he is there.

Speaker 96 I would like him to be there.

Speaker 48 However,

Speaker 95 if I'm him, I don't know that I bother.

Speaker 114 Why would you bother?

Speaker 16 Your path right now, which is everyone talking about you all the time, seems to be working.

Speaker 8 This poll is pretty consistent with other polling that we've seen recently that shows Donald Trump with a massive lead nationally, less of a lead in Iowa and New Hampshire, but still a pretty significant lead here of 23 points.

Speaker 79 If you have a 23-point lead, what can you do by going to this debate?

Speaker 43 Can you help yourself?

Speaker 92 I guess is the question.

Speaker 52 You got to break this into two different questions here.

Speaker 21 Number one, what's good for America?

Speaker 139 What's good for the Conservative Party?

Speaker 70 If you care about this sort of thing, what's good for the Republican Party?

Speaker 85 You'd like to see the leader in a race

Speaker 127 making an appearance at a debate.

Speaker 140 It's a big-time spotlight on your candidates, on your positions.

Speaker 23 And you'd like to see that.

Speaker 64 But from a selfish perspective, if I'm Donald Trump, it's like, well, I'm already winning.

Speaker 22 Why don't I wait until they sort this out?

Speaker 8 Let them, you know, if they're going to coalesce around one person or two people and those people are going to be within 10 points or 15 points of me, okay, then I'll go talk about them and try to blow them out of the water if I can.

Speaker 114 But right now, why would I do that?

Speaker 58 Why would I throw myself into a position where I got to get yelled at by, you know, stupid Chris Christie?

Speaker 112 And

Speaker 77 for what?

Speaker 16 So I I can lead by 25 instead of 23 if everything works out well?

Speaker 154 What's the purpose of this?

Speaker 58 And not to mention, you know, you think about what he's decided to do, which is go talk to Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 11 Now, Tucker will ask some difficult questions.

Speaker 9 I hope. I hope he pushes him.
I mean, Tucker could be a very difficult interviewer if he wants to be.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 160 I think it's important that he presses Donald Trump on some of these things that he's going to have to face going forward and questions about his record on from a conservative perspective.

Speaker 139 I think there's a lot of questions about that.

Speaker 14 Obviously, you know, probably the biggest one in

Speaker 27 the Republican voting base is

Speaker 68 how the COVID situation was handled,

Speaker 65 whether Anthony Fauci should have been employed the entire time he was and elevated to the levels that he was publicly.

Speaker 4 Those are real questions.

Speaker 139 Obviously, the spending is a big question.

Speaker 15 There are things to talk to Donald Trump about about how how his presidency went.

Speaker 137 You know, a lot of the people he complains about now, he hired.

Speaker 149 And why did that happen?

Speaker 119 Is that going to happen again in another Trump presidency?

Speaker 58 These are questions that are legitimate to be asked of Donald Trump.

Speaker 104 And that's why I think it would be interesting to see him on a debate stage.

Speaker 76 How is he going to change this?

Speaker 8 Look, being president is not easy.

Speaker 30 You're not going to succeed in everything you do, but you should have answers as to how those things are going to change the next time you have a chance.

Speaker 83 And of course, it's a

Speaker 8 smart idea to give some counter programming.

Speaker 84 He's going to do this and a lot of people will pay more attention to what he does with Tucker Carlson than the other debate.

Speaker 80 So if you think of it from a game theory standpoint, he's got a big lead already.

Speaker 137 He doesn't bring the eyeballs that Donald Trump always brings when he shows up on a debate stage.

Speaker 37 Fewer people will be watching this debate.

Speaker 24 And then it's going to be hard for these candidates to figure out a way to attack Donald Trump or I don't mean attack Donald Trump like the unfair way the media does, I mean in the way that any competitor needs to

Speaker 83 compete.

Speaker 130 You know, you can't go out there and just say, okay, well, you know, I just really like the other team, so therefore I'm just going to run it into the line for three times and punt.

Speaker 159 Like, you can't do that either.

Speaker 165 I don't think the voting base of the Republican Party wants to see attacks about January 6th and, you know, indictments and all of that.

Speaker 16 They see that in a totally different way than the mainstream media.

Speaker 126 And the stuff that Chris Christie is going to bring to the table is going to have zero effect

Speaker 12 on

Speaker 12 Donald Trump in the Republican primary, other than to help him.

Speaker 11 But on the other side of that, you have to come up with some way to be critical of Donald Trump and the record that he was able to put together.

Speaker 78 Because if you don't have any problem with his presidency,

Speaker 114 why are you running?

Speaker 114 Why are you there?

Speaker 75 What is the point of you?

Speaker 54 A lot of people in this race seem to be so scared of saying anything critical of Donald Trump's record.

Speaker 141 I'm not saying about his personal character.

Speaker 108 I'm not saying be MSNBC, but you have to be able to say something, don't you?

Speaker 93 Don't you have to come out and say something?

Speaker 117 And if you can't do that,

Speaker 41 you know, probably don't belong in the race in the first place.

Speaker 141 And I do think that there is a calculation

Speaker 79 from some of the people in this field that are just saying, like, look, the bottom line is I'm not going to beat Donald Trump unless he completely destroys himself or gets thrown in prison.

Speaker 59 So I'll just wait it out and then I'll try to win that secondary fight. I can understand that theory.

Speaker 64 I don't know if it's going to work, but look, when it comes to Republican primaries, nothing's worked against Donald Trump.

Speaker 13 It may just be one of these things that is too steep a climb for any of these people to knock him off.

Speaker 150 And that's certainly how it feels right now as we enter in the premiere debate week.

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Speaker 150 It's debate week.

Speaker 117 It's Friday, or excuse me, Wednesday is the debate.

Speaker 8 It's Monday today, of course.

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Speaker 48 Welcome, Pat.

Speaker 132 Thank you.

Speaker 70 Great to be here.

Speaker 55 It's an exciting week.

Speaker 58 We've got big coverage on Blaze TV, of course.

Speaker 80 Wednesday night, we'll be there breaking it all down for you.

Speaker 42 Also, by the way, if you want extended coverage, we're going to be doing that on my YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash stew doesamerica.

Speaker 86 Worth checking out as we'll be trying to do this on every one of these debates and breaking all of this stuff down as we go through all of the next year and a half.

Speaker 132 Hard to believe.

Speaker 3 It's going to be that long.

Speaker 142 It's not quite that long, I guess, now.

Speaker 79 We're in August.

Speaker 49 I mean, it's a year and three months. Yeah.

Speaker 80 So it's going to be a long, long road ahead.

Speaker 8 Pat, we started the show talking about this new poll from Iowa.

Speaker 91 This is from one of the more respected pollsters in Iowa, kind of the one that polling geeks think is the best in America.

Speaker 35 And you can make that decision up for yourself.

Speaker 17 But the results said Donald Trump 42% in first place in Iowa.

Speaker 8 Second place, Ron DeSantis, 19%.

Speaker 16 In third place, Tim Scott at 9%.

Speaker 82 Tied after that is Nikki, excuse me, let's see, Nikki Haley and Mike Pence are at 6%.

Speaker 149 You've got Chris Christie at 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%, and down from there.

Speaker 78 Wow.

Speaker 8 Ramaswamy is interesting.

Speaker 12 There's an internal polling nerd debate on him going on right now, which is

Speaker 79 when these polls are done online, he keeps showing up at like 10% and 9% and 11%.

Speaker 79 When they're done in the traditional way over the phone, he's showing up at more like 2 and 3 and 4.

Speaker 144 And so

Speaker 117 the split is odd.

Speaker 16 It seems to only be affecting him.

Speaker 36 So it is a little bit of a weird quirk,

Speaker 99 whether maybe the more online people who are super online and super engaged in politics, who generally speaking, you'd think would be the people who are showing up at the Iowa caucus.

Speaker 8 But those people seem to be more pro-vivaic than

Speaker 87 the average voter, apparently.

Speaker 84 But we'll see how that plays out.

Speaker 8 The poll interestingly breaks out as well, second choices. So second choice, the number one second choice, as you might expect, is Ron DeSantis.

Speaker 153 20% of voters identified him as their second choice.

Speaker 23 Then after that, it was Tim Scott at 15%.

Speaker 9 And then Vivek Ramaswamy at 12%.

Speaker 44 And Donald Trump as a second choice for 10% of voters.

Speaker 71 And I think one of the interesting things they did is they combined the total footprint.

Speaker 8 People who are considering this candidate. What percentage of voters are even considering them?

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 79 Number one, you might expect Donald Trump.

Speaker 92 63% of people are considering Donald Trump.

Speaker 142 And this might be the one bit of encouraging information

Speaker 168 for any other candidate here.

Speaker 8 When you look at this, people's minds aren't exactly made up.

Speaker 148 Ron DeSantis, his combined footprint in this poll is 61%.

Speaker 61 It's only two points behind

Speaker 74 when you're talking about if you're considering that candidate.

Speaker 58 So it does feel like what people think about this field is like, you know, Donald Trump's winning. He's the one that is favored right now.

Speaker 81 But Ron DeSantis is someone that people like and they are considering him.

Speaker 8 The next person down on that list, by the way, is Tim Scott at 53%.

Speaker 35 If you want to break down polling and you want to make an argument for another candidate outside of those top two, Tim Scott's probably your best argument.

Speaker 8 He doesn't have a lot of negatives.

Speaker 70 He's seen as highly favorable.

Speaker 65 He's usually in the top three or four polling-wise.

Speaker 58 And there are very few people in these polls who say, oh, okay, I don't like that guy at all.

Speaker 12 I won't consider him. He doesn't have a lot of negatives.

Speaker 8 So maybe there's room for him to expand.

Speaker 69 After Tim Scott at 53%, you go to 40% for Nikki Haley.

Speaker 86 She's the next one on the list.

Speaker 71 Then down to Vivek Ramaswamy at 34, Mike Pence at 31.

Speaker 4 And then you're getting down to, you know, Bergamentum, Doug Bergam, Doug Bergamania, 23% considering him.

Speaker 133 So the field is kind of set up in,

Speaker 35 correct me, Pat, if you think this is wrong, but this is the way I sort of laid it out.

Speaker 58 You've got a top tier, tier one,

Speaker 69 you've got Donald Trump there by himself.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 150 Tier two,

Speaker 86 you've got Ron DeSantis there by himself.

Speaker 102 Tier three,

Speaker 44 you've got Vivek Ramaswamy and Tim Scott and Nikki Haley and, you know, maybe a couple of others.

Speaker 23 And then everybody else is like, should be in the kiddie table, really.

Speaker 22 I mean, like, you get to a point where it's ridiculous.

Speaker 173 They should go home.

Speaker 109 Asa Hutchinson is saying he's made this debate.

Speaker 54 Now, that's not been confirmed by the Republicans yet that this is true.

Speaker 109 He's claiming he's hit the 40,000 donors.

Speaker 130 He's claiming he's hit the polling requirements.

Speaker 142 And he's going to sign the pledge to vote for the eventual nominee, basically making the argument, well, I will never vote for Donald Trump, but

Speaker 2 I don't think he'll win.

Speaker 8 So I'll sign it.

Speaker 3 You don't think he'll win. Right.

Speaker 48 What he's already done. He's only ahead by 40 points.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, a small chance of him winning this thing.

Speaker 98 So what's your take on this debate, where this field stands right now?

Speaker 3 I just, I really think it's a little bit illegitimate without Trump being a part of it. I'd really like to see him

Speaker 3 debate the others to be there.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 I think that trying to get them to sign some agreement that they'll vote for the eventual nominee is

Speaker 3 un-American,

Speaker 3 if you will.

Speaker 167 Yeah.

Speaker 78 How about this?

Speaker 3 I'm going to vote for whoever I decide to vote for at that time when that time comes around and I see who the nominee is.

Speaker 132 Otherwise, I might look for a third-party candidate.

Speaker 48 Who knows?

Speaker 3 But I'm not signing your agreement. So

Speaker 3 you can take that and stick it.

Speaker 108 I think that's a totally fair stance.

Speaker 131 You should.

Speaker 3 I mean, look, I understand why they're doing it and they're trying to force people to, they're trying to force unity, but you can't force unity can't that's it's not a thing unless you're in the soviet union yeah you can't force not signing it um and you know if if that was part of donald trump's although i don't think it was part of his uh reasoning for not joining the debate then i i completely understand that although he just should have said how about this i'm not going to sign your agreement but i'll be in the debate or i'll be in your debate if you don't make me sign the agreement yeah i make them tell you no right right but he doesn't want to be in the debate because he's winning by a lot.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 134 But I mean, that's basically what he said, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 He said the public knows who I am and what a successful presidency I had with energy independence, strong border, strong borders and military, biggest ever tax and regulation cuts, no inflation, strongest economy in history, and much more.

Speaker 3 I will therefore not be doing the debates.

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, and like we talk about this sometimes, you know,

Speaker 8 when it comes to sports teams and, you know, like if you have, you know, the Eagles played a preseason game this season, or this weekend,

Speaker 8 Jalen Hurts didn't play in the game.

Speaker 78 Why?

Speaker 24 Well, what's the upside?

Speaker 136 He's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 159 He could get hurt.

Speaker 92 What's the upside?

Speaker 44 And if you're Donald Trump and you're looking at this situation, you're saying, well,

Speaker 77 I don't know, what's the upside here?

Speaker 116 What do I get out of this?

Speaker 76 How does this benefit my campaign?

Speaker 174 And it's hard to make an argument that it could.

Speaker 70 I just feel like for because I care about conservative conservatism, because I care about the country and who's going to lead it, I would like the guy who's leading the race to be in the debate.

Speaker 8 I think it's good for the country. Yeah.

Speaker 131 But I can totally understand why, from his perspective, you're saying, why bother?

Speaker 3 And there are some things that have come up in the last few years that I would really like his take on. I'd like to see where he stands on certain things.

Speaker 3 What are you going to do about the war in Ukraine?

Speaker 3 What do you think about

Speaker 3 the vaccine now? Are you still as married to it as you were in the beginning?

Speaker 71 I think a lot of people who are voting in this coming primary really have that question.

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 22 And it's one he's going to need to answer at some point, you think.

Speaker 3 You would think so. But

Speaker 3 he doesn't want to. And it is hard to blame him because he's 30 points, 40 points ahead, depending on what poll you're looking at.
Yeah.

Speaker 127 Now, in Iowa, to be fair, this one's only, it's only 23, which is still a huge lead.

Speaker 90 Now, if you go back in modern history, no candidate at this time that was up by this much has ever lost.

Speaker 58 So

Speaker 58 you're looking at a situation.

Speaker 8 This would be, I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 120 I don't think it's unfair to say if he loses this election, it's the greatest choke in the history of politics, or at least close to it.

Speaker 53 I mean, he shouldn't have a problem getting through this.

Speaker 104 He's had a massive lead.

Speaker 96 The media gives him fuel.

Speaker 108 constantly

Speaker 71 to make his road easier to win this nomination.

Speaker 8 you know, getting criticized by all the right people is a powerful tool.

Speaker 74 And Donald Trump has absolutely mastered the art of doing that.

Speaker 141 And, you know, whether this helps him in the general is another situation, but in the primary, you know, he probably can just ride this.

Speaker 3 Every indictment just makes him more popular.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Every indictment's like worth another five points for him.

Speaker 172 It's amazing.

Speaker 116 He said it, and people were like, oh, I can't believe he said that back in the day.

Speaker 118 But like, could he shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it on camera?

Speaker 136 i think probably yes probably could i think so and you know it's funny because many of donald trump's you know great moments have come in these situations where he's fighting with people right like i mean what they used to say back in 2016 why do we like him so much it's not his policies it's because he fights and then here he is with a chance to fight with all these campaign with the other other contenders and he doesn't want to do it And honestly, you look at this and you say, why would you?

Speaker 116 What does it do for you?

Speaker 60 You go for a 23-point lead, to a 25-point lead,

Speaker 115 point lead 29 point lead that's all great but i don't know that it does that much for you and you have to sit there and watch asa hutchinson drone on i mean just to avoid that i understand his opinion even if he was losing the debates i don't think i would want to show up if asa hutchinson were there just because you'd be bored to death yeah

Speaker 3 yeah it would it's not for him you know it's for the voters it's for the republican voters that's who it's for so if you're gonna do it that's the only reason to do it because it's not gonna help him You know, he doesn't need any help.

Speaker 3 He's so far ahead that you might want to just do the rest of the campaign from your basement like Biden did last time.

Speaker 3 Just stay out of the way.

Speaker 67 And his basement's a lot nicer than Biden's.

Speaker 86 Yes. He's got a nice basement.

Speaker 92 If he can get around all those classified documents he's been storing there,

Speaker 109 it should be fine.

Speaker 51 You know, I think it's

Speaker 120 true because he really could just,

Speaker 79 I mean, it would make sense from a, you know, from a, you're, you're a head coach type of standpoint.

Speaker 12 You're the campaign manager. Okay, Don, this is what we do here.

Speaker 8 You sit back, you let them fight against each other, make idiots of themselves.

Speaker 9 Half of them will probably quit before we even get to Iowa.

Speaker 119 If someone emerges, if a challenge emerges, then you go in there and you knock it down, right?

Speaker 133 Why try to knock down a challenge that isn't there?

Speaker 14 And I don't think that's exactly right.

Speaker 12 I do think, like, as we just talked about, I mean, Ron DeSantis has a path here, quite quite clearly.

Speaker 36 Tim Scott has a path here.

Speaker 2 You know, there are other candidates.

Speaker 8 I mean, you can make an argument for Vivek.

Speaker 80 You can make an argument for someone like Nikki Haley. You can make an argument,

Speaker 12 obviously, for Doug Bergamentum.

Speaker 77 You could do that pretty easily.

Speaker 114 But, you know,

Speaker 58 there's not a real reason for him to do this

Speaker 93 from a selfish standpoint.

Speaker 142 You're right. This would be

Speaker 14 almost an act of

Speaker 24 charity.

Speaker 95 Yeah.

Speaker 127 But one that I think has some merit.

Speaker 15 I mean, I think like getting yourself in front of voters is something that is fundamental to our system.

Speaker 112 And

Speaker 76 I wish he was doing it.

Speaker 155 Yeah. I do too.

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Speaker 3 But first, on Friday, Joe Biden sat down with the leaders of South Korea and Japan and then asked the press to leave. This is great because I think he was told in his ear:

Speaker 161 ask the press to politely leave or politely ask them to leave.

Speaker 3 And so here's what he said:

Speaker 178 politely asked the press to leave.

Speaker 167 Thank you for coming in.

Speaker 3 Look at that. Look at the vacant stare there afterwards.
The lights are on, but nobody's home. No one's home there.

Speaker 49 Creepy.

Speaker 88 Wow. Really bad.

Speaker 3 So somebody told him in his ear,

Speaker 116 ask the press to politely to leave.

Speaker 3 So that's what he says.

Speaker 179 Ask the press to politely leave.

Speaker 70 Is that really the way he phrased that? It wasn't like,

Speaker 48 I asked.

Speaker 142 No, I'm not sure.

Speaker 48 That's what I'm asking.

Speaker 3 Again, play it one more time.

Speaker 178 Politely asked the press to leave.

Speaker 132 Politely asked.

Speaker 48 to rest.

Speaker 3 You know, so what he said, politely asked the press to leave and thank him for coming in. And that's

Speaker 3 exactly what came out of his mouth. This is so bad.

Speaker 3 It is so embarrassing.

Speaker 132 It is.

Speaker 22 If we looked at this happening in Zimbabwe, we'd laugh at it.

Speaker 103 Yes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we would.

Speaker 55 We would.

Speaker 68 If we saw this happening in, you know, some third world country with no economy,

Speaker 103 we would just think, oh my gosh, do you believe this?

Speaker 86 This guy is in power.

Speaker 163 It's incredible.

Speaker 162 It's hilarious.

Speaker 68 If this is Turkmenistan, we'd be like, oh,

Speaker 3 those dummies over there, they elected this guy.

Speaker 163 Okay.

Speaker 21 And here he is, president of the United States of America. What a disgrace.

Speaker 141 It's embarrassing.

Speaker 17 And there's so many examples of it.

Speaker 152 You've got, of course, John Fetterman.

Speaker 27 Nancy Pelosi gets on this run.

Speaker 141 I mean, Mitch McConnell.

Speaker 84 Let's say it clearly.

Speaker 29 He should not be in office after what happened a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 162 Diane Feinstein's the worst of all of them. Yeah.

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Speaker 79 It can't even control her own finances.

Speaker 122 She can't even do the most basic things in her life.

Speaker 180 They have a power of attorney over her, and she's a senator.

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Speaker 3 Joe Biden

Speaker 3 just okayed the beginning of World War III.

Speaker 107 We'll tell you

Speaker 132 all about that coming up in one minute.

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Speaker 3 Let me remind you of something that Joe Biden said. But this, I mean, again, this is clear back in 2022.

Speaker 173 So it was

Speaker 159 last year.

Speaker 48 I mean,

Speaker 3 does your mind even go back that far?

Speaker 124 I remember those times. I remember that.
Do you really?

Speaker 48 Yeah. Do you really? Yeah.

Speaker 97 If you really think back, you can remember what it was like in 2022.

Speaker 3 How old were you in 2022?

Speaker 153 Do you remember back then? They used to have

Speaker 166 gas-powered automobiles.

Speaker 49 Oh, my God.

Speaker 93 And they had that's right i had forgotten it's been so long on every corner right pat you're driving around on every corner there's these these golden arches and they had these places called mcdonald's and mcdonald's yeah they would serve hamburgers and and and french fries and shakes and it was just an incredible time what a time now brings you back they should do it a sequel to back to the future and just see if they could capture right that moment get the flux capacitor running and see if they could capture and take us all the way back.

Speaker 129 It's so

Speaker 132 last year.

Speaker 83 You're a distant memory.

Speaker 14 It's hard to put yourself in that position.

Speaker 48 Do you know I was four years old?

Speaker 3 I was four. Wow.

Speaker 11 So I don't remember a lot of what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 Yeah. But here's what Joe Biden said last year about sending U.S.
jets into Ukraine.

Speaker 132 He said, that's called World War III.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 So

Speaker 109 wait a minute.

Speaker 96 So if you send jets into Ukraine, that's World War III.

Speaker 131 That's World War III.

Speaker 116 Well, I'm glad we're not going to do that because I don't want World War III.

Speaker 67 I think this is another stance, and I don't know if they're going to cover this during the debates, but it's a stance that I have, and I wish they'd ask about it.

Speaker 113 Do you want World War III?

Speaker 41 I'm a no.

Speaker 132 Are you a hard no? I'm a no.

Speaker 49 Hard no.

Speaker 118 I would not enjoy that.

Speaker 55 Would like to avoid it if possible.

Speaker 160 Okay.

Speaker 55 All right.

Speaker 145 So the things that you, if you had something that you yourself believe would start World War III, I would try to avoid that thing.

Speaker 3 And he stuck to that for a good long time. Like I said, that was last year until this year.
He stuck to that. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 But now he just approved sending American F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands. He just approved that.

Speaker 58 Now, was it just training?

Speaker 87 Was that the only line?

Speaker 19 Was it just planes?

Speaker 3 No, no, he said, the idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews, just understand, don't kid yourself.

Speaker 179 No matter what y'all say,

Speaker 132 that's called World War III.

Speaker 3 Now, the trains, I agree with him on that. Oh, if we send offensive trains in there, offensive train weapons,

Speaker 3 you've gone too far.

Speaker 68 When we send offensive train weapons into Ukraine, I join the Russian military.

Speaker 57 I do it that day.

Speaker 170 We've crossed that very serious line.

Speaker 3 Now, so far, we've not gone that extreme. No, no.
We have held back on that.

Speaker 80 I mean,

Speaker 80 train bombs are too.

Speaker 27 It's too much.

Speaker 149 Now, they're easy to avoid. That's one good thing.

Speaker 108 If you stay away from the tracks, you almost completely avoid them, which is great.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But there's a train derailment of the offensive train weapon bomber.

Speaker 16 And if we've seen anything from this president, he can derail a train.

Speaker 172 He's good at that. Yes.

Speaker 23 He's good at that.

Speaker 23 Yes.

Speaker 3 But he's already done the tanks, right?

Speaker 159 That's already happened.

Speaker 30 So that World War III has already started.

Speaker 3 And now the F-16s

Speaker 3 has been okay.

Speaker 141 Now, are they going directly to Ukraine?

Speaker 3 Is there a... Well, they first, apparently, they've had stops in Denmark and the Netherlands.

Speaker 48 Oh, okay. Well, they won't be.
Russia won't be Netflix.

Speaker 149 They won't understand.

Speaker 163 Now, we're going to tell them.

Speaker 3 They don't think, oh, those are Denmarkian

Speaker 131 F-16s, right?

Speaker 36 They're like, oh, gosh, Denmark.

Speaker 95 You know,

Speaker 80 the United States should file a copyright violation against Denmark and the Netherlands for them copying our plane.

Speaker 89 How dare you?

Speaker 3 How dare you copy our F-16?

Speaker 180 And you might say, hey, maybe it's plausible.

Speaker 78 We didn't tell them, you know, that we were giving them these planes and therefore they can't hold us overtly responsible with the exception of the fact that we are telling them almost every day.

Speaker 60 We tell them all the time.

Speaker 132 We announce every single move we're making.

Speaker 3 Hey, by the way, we're sending in one Abrams tanks now.

Speaker 3 When we made that big announcement months ago, and now it's, oh, by the way, we just said it's okay

Speaker 3 for Denmark and the Netherlands to send our F-16s to Ukraine. So that's going to happen now, too.

Speaker 58 Now, I guess you could argue with that, if you listen to the specific wording of his statement, you could argue he's talking about American crews being brought in by these offensive trains.

Speaker 3 Only if American pilots and crews are manning these weapons,

Speaker 3 then it's World War III. Right.
But not if Ukrainian pilots in American jets.

Speaker 12 And I know if you're a Russian mom and your kid is just, you know, your kid's in the war and just been killed by a missile from an F-16, you're like, well, what's the nationality of the pilot?

Speaker 162 I don't care if he died.

Speaker 96 I care if he was killed by an American.

Speaker 123 I know.

Speaker 96 I care about what nationality was actually flying the American plane.

Speaker 138 That's my line.

Speaker 3 And that's where you draw the line.

Speaker 48 That's where you draw the line. Yeah.

Speaker 30 Which is fascinating.

Speaker 3 Not that you're going to have a fourth generation jet in the

Speaker 3 Ukrainian arsenal now. That's not the issue.
You don't care about that. The issue is who's flying it.
Right.

Speaker 16 Who's flying it? Like, where are they from?

Speaker 14 What housing complex are they from?

Speaker 163 Are they from Idaho?

Speaker 36 Do they follow the rules of their HOA?

Speaker 48 Are they from MAMS now?

Speaker 163 I have to know.

Speaker 3 Or are they from Kiev?

Speaker 44 I don't want to mock this too much because

Speaker 104 Biden might do it.

Speaker 17 And I really don't want American pilots in the middle of this.

Speaker 3 I think we're headed that direction.

Speaker 96 You do.

Speaker 48 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because, I mean, they're losing right now.

Speaker 3 This counteroffensive is not going well.

Speaker 82 And

Speaker 3 we were just reading an article about this that there are some who think the Ukrainian army is on the verge of collapse. So if that were to happen,

Speaker 3 I think that's when we step in with boots on the ground.

Speaker 8 Well, yeah, because luckily we've set up the standard that we will only give them everything they need forever.

Speaker 21 Everything, yes.

Speaker 23 So that standard is very easy to keep up.

Speaker 54 You just always say yes. You just keep saying saying yeah.

Speaker 122 If you say yes to everything,

Speaker 34 eventually you do get probably two American boots on the ground.

Speaker 12 And you do.

Speaker 3 And like, look, I think we've said no to all of this stuff initially, and then, meh, yes.

Speaker 3 The tanks, the jets. Is there anything else?

Speaker 3 The cluster bombs we said no to initially and then started sending them. And so Zelensky just said today that this move is absolutely historic, powerful, and inspiring for us.

Speaker 88 Oh, good.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm glad glad he likes it because that's what is the main focus of the United States of America right now. Does Vladimir Zelensky enjoy what we're doing?

Speaker 68 Yeah, I mean, is he appreciated?

Speaker 16 The central plank of American foreign policy has always been: is Vladimir Zelensky inspired?

Speaker 30 And in this particular case, he's saying he is.

Speaker 3 It was a weird plank before Zelensky took power.

Speaker 48 I thought it was very weird when he was a comedian.

Speaker 48 That was weird.

Speaker 29 I was like, wow, that's a very strange plank.

Speaker 48 But now it makes really good sense.

Speaker 90 And look,

Speaker 169 I think you can be a person who says these efforts, the way we're doing this is really, really questionable and still understand that, like, look, I understand.

Speaker 11 If I'm Ukrainian, I am 100% number one trying to defend my country at all costs.

Speaker 176 And I'm not saying, oh, sure, you can have Crimea.

Speaker 176 What other regions should I be giving you?

Speaker 76 I would be pissed if we were on the air in Ukraine, right?

Speaker 124 Like we were, we're, we're like, morning's in Kyiv.

Speaker 1 Hey, the traffic and weather is coming up here in Kyiv in just a few minutes.

Speaker 48 I want to talk about the Russian invasion as well.

Speaker 96 Our commentary would likely be, I know it would be for me, and I want to speak for you, but

Speaker 89 my commentary would be like, screw

Speaker 152 these Russians.

Speaker 64 We're taking every inch of our territory back, and we're going to take some of theirs too, maybe.

Speaker 109 And also, I would be saying,

Speaker 102 Let's ask the Americans for every freaking thing they'll give us. Will they give us stuff for free?

Speaker 48 Will they?

Speaker 122 Will they give us planes and trains and automobiles for free yes will they give us offensive train weapons that will go on the tracks and blow up somewhere will they give the if they will let's take them and let's beg for them i would a hundred percent be on that side of it i get it from their perspective i do too and i get helping uh other countries in certain ways that are advantageous to us strategically that's something that we do all the time and sometimes is vital but like you can't set a an expectation to a country like ukraine that we will support them for everything they need no matter what.

Speaker 89 Eternally.

Speaker 180 And that's basically what we've said.

Speaker 74 Yeah.

Speaker 102 As long as it takes.

Speaker 129 What is it?

Speaker 102 As long as it takes?

Speaker 102 I mean, that is an impossible standard to hit.

Speaker 8 And the only thing that saves us from this is it's possible that Joe Biden is lying.

Speaker 8 And in reality, he's saying that as a front that eventually we're going to say, okay, well, let's have a settlement here and let's get these guys talking.

Speaker 3 The other thing that gives you a little bit of hope, a modicum of hope that we could get out of this

Speaker 3 is there's an election next year.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, could the war still be going?

Speaker 163 It looks like it's going to be.

Speaker 49 Yeah, any.

Speaker 169 I mean, not no chance of it ending before that, but I would say very small.

Speaker 3 But there are several candidates, including Donald Trump, who have said

Speaker 3 no to this. I mean,

Speaker 3 he has strongly indicated that he would strive to end this thing on day day one. Yep.
Get the two sides together and

Speaker 3 get a peace effort going. I've said a couple of times on Mindshare, we haven't even sent Dennis Rodman yet.

Speaker 83 What?

Speaker 48 What in the hell are we doing? He hasn't even been there.

Speaker 132 He hasn't even been there yet to negotiate this peace for us. What a disgrace is he on?

Speaker 3 You haven't even taken that step. They're just not serious about peace.

Speaker 26 First step in any first step.

Speaker 132 The very first one.

Speaker 117 The first bullet flies, you call Dennis.

Speaker 98 Yes.

Speaker 149 And you say, hey, can you get over there?

Speaker 3 Rod, can you be there by 3 o'clock this afternoon?

Speaker 73 And he would. He would.

Speaker 181 I will say he would.

Speaker 41 I think he would.

Speaker 129 I think he would. It's worth a shot.

Speaker 122 You know, I mean, maybe he's just like Kim Jong-un and it works.

Speaker 3 But several of the Republicans, certainly not Mike Pence, I think he keeps this thing going even stronger than it has been.

Speaker 3 But there are several candidates who would get us out of this thing, I think.

Speaker 64 I think so, too.

Speaker 19 I mean, look, our stance needs to be actively.

Speaker 23 Look, you could say a a lot of things publicly.

Speaker 62 I think you should say very few things publicly.

Speaker 30 And the few things that you say, if you're on the, we're already in this battle or probably, you're going to be supportive.

Speaker 12 You want Ukraine.

Speaker 153 We have a rooting interest in this, I think, from a governmental perspective, right?

Speaker 135 But you're behind the scenes activity should be just get this over with.

Speaker 122 Yes.

Speaker 36 The American people, unlike the Ukrainian people, don't care about the Luhansk region, right?

Speaker 180 Like, I get that.

Speaker 132 They don't even know what it is.

Speaker 48 Right.

Speaker 180 I just want this to stop.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 129 And, you know, what is in our interest here, this war ending.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 58 And again, that has to be also with stopping Russian advances going forward.

Speaker 16 That is part of it.

Speaker 123 You can't just be like, all right, Russia gets to roll over wherever they want, whenever they want.

Speaker 55 And we just say, okay, I understand why you push back against that.

Speaker 122 But like behind the scenes, we need to be making sure that this gets over.

Speaker 101 If they want our support, this has to be coming to an end at some point.

Speaker 133 How much money are you going to spend on this?

Speaker 172 this?

Speaker 132 A lot.

Speaker 159 So, well, it's 200 billion so far.

Speaker 3 Just the 200 billion, though.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 159 But, hey,

Speaker 3 on the other hand, we've sent $700 to Hawaiian families who've lost everything.

Speaker 66 So

Speaker 149 that's not bad.

Speaker 89 I mean, I don't know if it's all arrived yet.

Speaker 163 No, it has.

Speaker 48 Okay, right.

Speaker 3 We're maybe going to send $700.

Speaker 47 We promised to send it.

Speaker 163 We have a pledge.

Speaker 53 Is a pledge good?

Speaker 48 It's good.

Speaker 41 I mean,

Speaker 29 how much of a house can you build with a pledge of $700?

Speaker 8 Do we know?

Speaker 141 A tiny part.

Speaker 48 A tiny part.

Speaker 132 Yeah, a really tiny part.

Speaker 11 That's better than nothing.

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Speaker 3 Pat and Stu for Glenn today. He's got some back pain and hopefully he'll be better tomorrow.

Speaker 3 We were just talking about the difference between what we're doing in Ukraine and what they've pledged so far to Hawaii. And this may not be everything, but

Speaker 3 it's amazing to me that, you know, some of the some of the estimates of how much we've sent them to Ukraine so far is well over 200 billion.

Speaker 3 When you include all the military and humanitarian aid, you put it all together, it's over $200 billion.

Speaker 3 We've pledged so far $700 for the families who've lost everything in Hawaii.

Speaker 3 And just to give you a little perspective on how heartbreaking that is, here's a Maui survivor talking about the president and calling Biden out.

Speaker 184 And right now, the Maui community is helping the Maui community. And I'm really, I'm, it's really affected me because where's the president?

Speaker 184 He decides to come here this week to come here next week. I mean, like, we're, we're,

Speaker 184 aren't we Americans too? Like, we're part of the the United States, but why are we not, why are we getting put in the back pocket? Why are we being ignored?

Speaker 3 Pretty good question.

Speaker 160 Heartbreaking.

Speaker 11 It's heartbreaking. Well, no comment, Pat.

Speaker 48 No comment on that? No comment.

Speaker 25 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 166 That's my stance on this particular issue.

Speaker 41 No comment. No comment.

Speaker 12 I got to go to the beach.

Speaker 173 Okay. So

Speaker 167 that's understandable.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What about Tahoe next week? Are you going to be able to make it there?

Speaker 48 I'll make it there.

Speaker 163 Okay.

Speaker 40 I'll make it there, but no comment on your little.

Speaker 132 What was it? A fire?

Speaker 162 Yeah, fire. Fire.

Speaker 3 In Hawaii, but you don't have a comment on that?

Speaker 33 No, I mean, was it really hot? I'm really following it. Was it hot?

Speaker 149 Very. Oh, wow.

Speaker 80 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 28 So, yeah, no comment on that.

Speaker 10 Okay. No comment on that.
I want to make a brave stance of no comment.

Speaker 3 How weird is that, by the way, the no comment thing?

Speaker 26 I don't even know. I'm fascinated by it.

Speaker 3 I don't understand it.

Speaker 116 Again, I don't think Joe Biden cares about this at all.

Speaker 48 Okay, I want to be clear.

Speaker 109 I don't think he cares.

Speaker 3 But you got to pretend.

Speaker 102 You got to pretend.

Speaker 109 You're in the middle of a presidential campaign.

Speaker 129 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Just politics 101 would describe you at least appearing to care.

Speaker 170 Yeah.

Speaker 111 And he has not crossed that bridge at all.

Speaker 93 He's like, ah, screw it. I don't care.

Speaker 81 I mean, I guess he's so confident he can stay in his basement and he can beat Donald Trump by the media just hammering him and or and or arresting him and putting him in prison that he doesn't have to try.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 101 But that's a dangerous tactic.

Speaker 3 Do you remember when we contrasted this last week?

Speaker 3 Do you remember when Donald Trump was asked immediately after, I don't know, he's coming out of some meeting and a reporter said, hey, any thoughts about Ruth Bader Ginsburg just died? He's like,

Speaker 3 Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Yeah, she just died. We just got that news.
And he stood there and made this really eloquent statement about Ruth Bader Ginsburg and what a great American she was.

Speaker 3 And it was really presidential. Do you remember that?

Speaker 48 By your chance. Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 And you contrast that with him being asked in something he should have been prepared for anyway, but he's asked about Hawaii and he's got no comment.

Speaker 132 How is that possible?

Speaker 159 Have you not had any time?

Speaker 3 Have you not taken a minute to prepare something?

Speaker 8 And again, like, you know, the Trump thing, the example, I kind of remember that, but, you know.

Speaker 24 This is a political opponent, right?

Speaker 139 Someone who tried to uproot his presidency over and over again.

Speaker 3 Somebody who certainly wasn't an ally.

Speaker 48 That's not an ally at all.

Speaker 128 Where Maui, these are your voters. Right.

Speaker 139 if you're a Democrat. Big time.

Speaker 181 You're talking about 80%

Speaker 14 voting for you in some circumstances.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 42 Again, that shouldn't motivate your response here, but you'd think it would at least make you lead with empathy.

Speaker 3 I know. Even when you're talking about the most base politics that are involved here,

Speaker 181 you should just for that,

Speaker 3 just because these are your constituents, potential voters, you got something.

Speaker 133 I'm so cynical on this stuff, Pat.

Speaker 10 Like, there's not a part of me that believes that Joe biden actually would care about these victims but like

Speaker 9 you just think politics would say hey i don't want to come off you don't want to come like what happened to george w bush through katrina yeah and i don't think he did show empathy he did uh care quite clearly when when the you know the historical writings came out about this period quite clearly he did care about this but the media was able to present him as if he didn't care and people bought that for a time And it hurt him.

Speaker 140 It really hurt his second term.

Speaker 12 I mean, it was, you know, arguably one of two things early in his second term that really derailed his presidency.

Speaker 112 And

Speaker 149 Joe Biden has no care at all about that.

Speaker 22 Now, maybe he knows.

Speaker 35 Maybe he's making a coherent calculation that, you know, look, the media is going to be on my side, so I never have to care about this.

Speaker 68 More likely, I think he just really doesn't care and just rolls it out there.

Speaker 32 It has

Speaker 62 no awareness whatsoever.

Speaker 132 He just doesn't care.

Speaker 64 Doesn't care. A fire, who cares?

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Speaker 93 By the way, Pat, I want to say, I take a very controversial stance here.

Speaker 8 We went through the 2016

Speaker 173 scenario, right?

Speaker 104 And it was ugly.

Speaker 21 Those debates were a mess.

Speaker 81 Remember, we had the kiddie table debates.

Speaker 108 Because there were 18 candidates.

Speaker 26 18 candidates.

Speaker 109 So you do like nine is too much for a debate.

Speaker 133 You have nine on the stage, and then they'd all go away.

Speaker 112 And then we'd come back with like the

Speaker 137 adult table.

Speaker 41 And then they'd do all the main contenders.

Speaker 60 They'd fight it out.

Speaker 30 And it was a disaster, and everyone hated it.

Speaker 142 I demand the return of the kitty table.

Speaker 77 I demand this year. I want it back.

Speaker 3 They set the standard too low, I think, for qualifying because it was only 1%

Speaker 3 in three polls or something.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And so all you need is 1% and 40,000 donors. Now, they're doing these stunty things to gain donors.

Speaker 155 Anyone can get the donors.

Speaker 8 If you have enough money, you can get the donors.

Speaker 3 And so some of them, like Bergham, was offering 20 bucks for a dollar donation.

Speaker 132 Okay.

Speaker 70 Fantastic way to make it to be profitable.

Speaker 149 Yeah.

Speaker 137 But, you know, Bergham has a lot of money.

Speaker 16 So he's been able to run tons of ads.

Speaker 98 And so he, I'm not even, it's, Bergham isn't even the problem.

Speaker 137 Like Bergham is actually like on the right, I would say almost on the adult side of the table.

Speaker 41 He's borderline on the adult side of the table.

Speaker 68 He's running a lot of ads. He's got a lot of money.

Speaker 58 If you make any argument that of these people, you don't know who's going to break out of that field.

Speaker 76 I mean, at least make the argument it's Bergham, right?

Speaker 92 You can't make the argument it's Asa Hutchinson.

Speaker 108 It's totally pointless at this, at this point.

Speaker 174 So just quickly running through who's actually qualified for this. Doug Bergham's qualified.
He's in.

Speaker 47 Ron DeSantis is in.

Speaker 67 Nikki Haley is in.

Speaker 68 Mike Pence is in.

Speaker 86 Four. Vivek Ramaswamy is in.

Speaker 153 Five. Tim Scott is in for sure.

Speaker 35 Now, after that, you get to.

Speaker 26 These are the certain. These are the certain.

Speaker 102 Chris Christie is basically a yes.

Speaker 44 I don't know that he signed the pledge.

Speaker 152 But what the way they're getting around signing the pledge is they're saying, well, I don't think, because remember, Chris Christie is saying Donald Trump is unqualified to be president.

Speaker 92 That's the whole basis of his campaign.

Speaker 13 How do you sign a pledge saying you'll vote for him if he wins the nomination?

Speaker 8 His out on that is, I don't think he's going to win.

Speaker 89 So I'll say that. Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 He's only ahead by 40 points.

Speaker 78 It's a really

Speaker 3 small chance of him being victorious in this thing.

Speaker 132 Right.

Speaker 7 It's obviously

Speaker 21 ridiculous. Yes.

Speaker 86 But at the same time,

Speaker 13 I can't imagine Chris Christie is going to give up on his debate appearance because he doesn't want to sign the pledge.

Speaker 153 He's going to figure out yet another lie in his head to make that happen.

Speaker 11 He's very good at crafting them. That would be seven.

Speaker 151 So that would be seven.

Speaker 34 Now, Trump, it's funny, Trump hasn't actually qualified for the debate because he won't sign that pledge.

Speaker 8 He said no.

Speaker 149 So, and technically, we know he's not going to be there, but he hasn't actually technically qualified for the debate because he will not sign this.

Speaker 84 The whole situation with

Speaker 74 the pledge.

Speaker 93 But let me give you some other names. Asa Hutchinson.

Speaker 136 Hutchinson has 11 qualifying polls.

Speaker 131 That's how low this

Speaker 64 has been set. He's got 11 qualifying polls.

Speaker 15 He's hit the donor situation.

Speaker 77 So if he signs the

Speaker 84 loyalty pledge, which he says he will, and he just says, well, I just don't think Trump will win.

Speaker 106 He has that same out.

Speaker 34 He will qualify the debate.

Speaker 11 So how many is that?

Speaker 15 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

Speaker 141 That's eight.

Speaker 80 Now, Trump is out, we know.

Speaker 77 So then we have people like Suarez, the mayor of Miami.

Speaker 81 Now, he has two qualifying polls, and he says he's hit the donor threshold.

Speaker 8 What it seems like is he's just saying it, right?

Speaker 123 There are people very, very skeptical whether he's actually qualified.

Speaker 142 But the Republican, you know, the RNC doesn't seem to have any real way of figuring this out.

Speaker 103 Like, they seem to be taking, at least on surface, just take their words statement from the candidates.

Speaker 3 Oh, wow.

Speaker 11 Now, he would still need another qualifying poll this week to get in, but it could happen.

Speaker 36 Okay.

Speaker 3 So that would be

Speaker 48 nine.

Speaker 73 Will Hurd.

Speaker 141 Also has the donors.

Speaker 72 Come on.

Speaker 101 He has three qualifying polls.

Speaker 3 He's got 40,000 donors. Yep.

Speaker 68 Anyone can can get 40,000 donors. That's why this is dumb.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 77 Also,

Speaker 16 he says he will not sign the loyalty pledge.

Speaker 53 So I don't think he'll be in, but in theory, he could be.

Speaker 93 Let's go down a little bit less when it comes to name recognition because we still have more.

Speaker 89 Perry Johnson.

Speaker 3 Just an entrepreneur, right?

Speaker 149 An entrepreneur running for president, running a lot of ads, has some money personally.

Speaker 64 He's hit the donor threshold.

Speaker 136 He has four qualifying polls.

Speaker 58 It seems like he's qualified there. And it seems like he will be on the stage because he will sign the loyalty.

Speaker 3 So that's like 11.

Speaker 2 And we've got

Speaker 48 Larry Elder.

Speaker 78 Now, Larry Elder, I want to talk about him in a second.

Speaker 73 He's actually worthy of being on the debate stage.

Speaker 109 He's very smart.

Speaker 19 He's very conservative.

Speaker 48 He's like for a long time.

Speaker 58 He's a good debater.

Speaker 116 He'll do a good job.

Speaker 58 And is way more qualified than all these people at the end here I'm listing.

Speaker 3 Wait till you see him on Charlemagne's show last week. It's incredible.

Speaker 103 Now, he only has two qualifying polls.

Speaker 24 A lot of this is because he's not listed in a lot of the polls, but he's only hit two.

Speaker 53 And he has reportedly 39,000 donors right now.

Speaker 24 So I assume he's going to cross that threshold today.

Speaker 139 But he hasn't technically qualified, but he could make the stage still.

Speaker 124 And then how about Binkley?

Speaker 3 Binkley.

Speaker 109 Binkley.

Speaker 132 Who Binkley?

Speaker 78 Binkley.

Speaker 3 Oh, the Binkley. Yes.

Speaker 48 Oh, okay.

Speaker 73 Ryan Binkley.

Speaker 3 Ryan Binkley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 74 He is an entrepreneur and pastor from Texas

Speaker 183 who apparently is also running for president, has hit the 40,000 individual threshold, apparently, with donors.

Speaker 3 That's impossible. Come on.

Speaker 81 Has only one qualifying poll, but he's so he'd need two more this week, but it's not out of the question he could get them.

Speaker 3 I don't believe that Ryan Binkley has been at 1% in any poll ever. Come on.
How dare you? I've never.

Speaker 101 That's what I'm going to say to you, Pat.

Speaker 65 How dare you?

Speaker 48 Pretty easily.

Speaker 3 I dare pretty easily.

Speaker 120 I can't believe you'd even say something like that.

Speaker 3 I mean, perhaps perhaps he's a wonderful pastor. No, he might be.

Speaker 183 People love him. I got to be honest.

Speaker 48 But I've never heard.

Speaker 3 Come on. Nobody knows who he is.

Speaker 137 You get down to this level. I don't know if they're good candidates or not.

Speaker 55 And like, look, there'd be benefit of a kiddie table for some of these people.

Speaker 119 Let them come out. Maybe one of them will shine.

Speaker 81 You know, it's not crazy to think.

Speaker 21 I mean, he got an early start, but like a person like Vivek Ramaswamy easily could have been in the kiddie table this year and probably would have shined.

Speaker 3 He would have dominated the kiddie table.

Speaker 76 He's done really well, and people would have said he's noticeable.

Speaker 131 This has happened before.

Speaker 138 But honestly, at this point, you've got one, two, three, four.

Speaker 111 Politico says there's nine that have qualified.

Speaker 151 It's too many.

Speaker 6 Now, that includes, of course, Trump would be 10.

Speaker 3 If you had five, that's plenty. That's more than enough.
Yeah.

Speaker 68 If you have, I mean, like, look, do five or six in the main table.

Speaker 76 Who's your main table?

Speaker 97 Ron DeSantis, the vaccine Ramaswamy, Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott,

Speaker 43 Chris Christie.

Speaker 62 I'll stretch it to Chris Christie.

Speaker 8 Chris Christie has some good polling in New Hampshire. Obviously, we all know he's not going to win the nomination.

Speaker 3 He's stretching a long way to include Chris Christie.

Speaker 85 Well, he's very wide.

Speaker 172 I have to stretch it. There's like pants.

Speaker 52 Like a waistband, we're stretching far to Chris.

Speaker 3 But I mean, so this is really elastic, like an amazing miracle elastic.

Speaker 132 Yeah, it's like that athleisure wear.

Speaker 65 You know what I mean?

Speaker 77 It's really stretchy. Yeah.

Speaker 102 But like, in all seriousness, look.

Speaker 58 He's only appealing to very moderate anti-Trump people, but they do exist in the party.

Speaker 8 And you look at New Hampshire, he's hitting 7%, 8% in some of those polls.

Speaker 132 That's not nothing.

Speaker 103 I mean, I think he should probably be in the main debate.

Speaker 133 I mean, not Asa Hutchinson, not Perry Johnson, not

Speaker 118 even Bergham.

Speaker 90 No, I mean, he shouldn't be in the main debate.

Speaker 180 You can, you know, if you want to stretch to Bergham and go to seven, maybe you could do it.

Speaker 55 I think it's a stretch.

Speaker 136 He does have, you know, he has some results where he's three or four percent in some of these early states.

Speaker 55 All right. Like, maybe you stretch to that.
It's the first debate. Maybe you have a wide net.

Speaker 110 But Asa Hutchinson and Perry Johnson.

Speaker 48 No.

Speaker 75 And maybe

Speaker 76 Ryan Binkley. No.

Speaker 49 And

Speaker 90 I don't know.

Speaker 41 You know, even Larry Elder, Larry Elder should be on a debate stage.

Speaker 62 He's certainly better than Asa Hutchinson and Perry Johnson to be on a debate stage.

Speaker 3 Is Carrot Top a Republican? Because maybe he should be in this too. That's a good point.
Yeah. I mean, that's a guy that can dial down the middle really well.

Speaker 3 And I don't know a lot of his policy platform, but I know dial down the middle.

Speaker 141 Collect calls and long distance calls, I believe.

Speaker 125 Yes.

Speaker 3 It's exactly right.

Speaker 101 For all the payphone calls you might be making these days.

Speaker 172 If you're going to have Ryan Binkley, you got to have Carrot Top.

Speaker 3 That's my policy position right now. And if they don't, I'm not voting Republican this year.

Speaker 132 Okay.

Speaker 3 I'll find the Constitution Party or something. Who's the Libertarian this year?

Speaker 100 Do you know?

Speaker 12 I don't believe they've had their

Speaker 146 convention yet. They pick at a convention.

Speaker 76 They don't have a primary process, which is, I've always argued, I understand why they do it.

Speaker 116 They have ideological reasons for this particular approach.

Speaker 20 Also, it's expensive to do it.

Speaker 76 But like, it gets nobody involved.

Speaker 80 No one knows what's going on.

Speaker 22 Like, it's just a bunch of people show up at an event and like they pick a candidate.

Speaker 76 You're like, who?

Speaker 116 Wait, what?

Speaker 55 Like, you need to have people.

Speaker 127 The reason why the primary process, which has tons of problems and it comes up with also really bad incentives and, you know, all sorts of real serious issues with it, but it does get people involved in the process and at least gets them attached to a candidate.

Speaker 74 And it lets them know what they care about.

Speaker 11 Like, you know, the general libertarian platform, but you don't know the differences between these people.

Speaker 20 And, you know, it doesn't get sussed out until a bunch of people who are insiders in the party hash it out at a convention. I just don't think it works to raise a

Speaker 16 profile of someone you probably don't know.

Speaker 3 What's really convenient, though, is that the Communist Party doesn't have to run a candidate since they already have Joe Biden. They've already got that candidate.

Speaker 155 It's working out.

Speaker 3 They had him in 2020, endorsed him in 2020. He was so close to everything they believe that they just said, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 48 No, we're happy with him. Yeah.

Speaker 17 And I got to believe like hardline communists were like, look, he's just saying all these crazy liberal things.

Speaker 14 He's not going to do them.

Speaker 81 He's just like, he, you know, he's an old school Democrat.

Speaker 71 He's a, you know, he's not going to do all these things for us.

Speaker 124 And then he paid off.

Speaker 85 What a great turn of events for them.

Speaker 73 Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 30 It's really worked out for those communists. Congratulations.

Speaker 155 That's wonderful. That's crazy.
Isn't that wonderful?

Speaker 3 That's cool news. Worked out for somebody, anyway.

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Speaker 8 I want to bring up this Larry Elder clip from, he's talking to Charlemagne, the radio host, about, I guess, race issues.

Speaker 138 Now, Larry Elder is running for president.

Speaker 17 He should be on the debate stage if freaking Doug Bergham's going to be on the debate stage.

Speaker 169 Larry Elder should definitely be on the debate stage.

Speaker 92 He is running for president.

Speaker 18 And he was on the breakfast club talking about racial issues with Charlemagne.

Speaker 80 They use the N-word many times.

Speaker 154 Now, this is one of those situations where certain people, it depends on the color of your skin whether you're allowed to use certain words, Pat.

Speaker 67 And

Speaker 16 so these are two African Americans allowed to use the N-word.

Speaker 31 We're going to bleep it out because we're not allowed to use it.

Speaker 19 Just to be clear how this works, and I'm totally...

Speaker 3 Or even play their use of it.

Speaker 55 Yes, we can't even say, we can't play that.

Speaker 58 But so that is what they're saying in the bleeps here.

Speaker 8 Go ahead.

Speaker 167 Joe Biden has lied for decades about his civil rights record, claiming that he desegregated movie theaters and restaurants in Wilmington, Delaware, when he didn't do any of that.

Speaker 167 He lied and said that he tried to visit Nelson Mandela during apartheid South Africa. He did not.
And he came in here and told you you you aren't even black unless you think a certain kind of way.

Speaker 167 It seems to me that should have been a wake-up call for you, but it wasn't, apparently.

Speaker 186 Let me know for the record. I'm not a Democrat or Republican.

Speaker 167 I didn't say you were. I think both parties.
I don't know what you are. I never even asked you about your party affiliation.
I'm just saying, but you are black. Absolutely.

Speaker 167 And to have a white guy come in here and tell you you have to think a certain kind of way, otherwise you, quote, ain't black. Wow.
How should I have replied to him, you think?

Speaker 167 What I just now said, how dare you insult me and tell me I think as a human being, let alone as a black person? I don't tell you how to think, Joe Biden. How dare you come in here and tell me how to

Speaker 167 I should think. I'm going to vote for Donald Trump if I want to vote for Donald Trump.
And if I want to vote for Donald Trump, it does not make me not black.

Speaker 167 20% of black people, black men, as I said, voted for Donald Trump in 2020. Are they not black now? So only 80% of black people, black men walking around are really black.

Speaker 167 20% are not because they voted for Donald Trump. How insulting is that? How condescending is that?

Speaker 186 I mean, you're probably right, but I didn't take it in that way.

Speaker 10 Well, I did.

Speaker 186 As I said to him in that moment, you know, it's just about me wanting something for my people. And I want to know what is he going to do for my people.

Speaker 167 And not only for my people people now how are you going to atone for the things you've done to my people right that's it right and this is a guy uh Joe Biden who when he first got into the Senate hung out with segregationists talked about how well he got along with them talked about how he didn't want integration because of a jungle This guy has made all sorts of insulting things to black people and his policies right now are hurting black people.

Speaker 167 Inflation hurts the people at the bottom more than anything else. Letting a bunch of illegal aliens into the border are hurting black people more than anybody else, as I said earlier.
He

Speaker 167 opposes school choice when he has his own kids in private school. And we lost a year, almost two years of in-school education in California because of COVID that he supported.

Speaker 167 I mean, this guy has done monstrous things to black people. And then for him to come in here and tell you how you ought to think of the black person, it blew my mind.

Speaker 10 But Asa Hutchinson is going to be on the stage and not him.

Speaker 166 Yeah. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 Oh, that was a beatdown.

Speaker 132 It's great.

Speaker 3 Can you imagine if Charlemagne had said those things to Joe Biden? What response could he have possibly had to that? I'm sorry.

Speaker 132 How dare you insult me that way?

Speaker 8 All he could do was say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 That might have changed the election. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because there's nothing he could come back with.

Speaker 73 Nope.

Speaker 3 I mean, you got him at that point. You've just destroyed him.

Speaker 16 He saw it with Charlemagne.

Speaker 67 I mean, again, I'm not exactly

Speaker 30 a P1, as they call in radio terms, a main, a big listener to the Charlemagne show.

Speaker 3 You're not a primary listener to the Charlemagne show?

Speaker 77 But what I have seen of him is that

Speaker 15 he's kind of famous for getting in these big debates.

Speaker 94 Like, he'll fight with people.

Speaker 8 He'll have these big arguments with people, take them on.

Speaker 96 I mean, and he was demoted to a withering, you know,

Speaker 137 fern there by Larry Elder.

Speaker 132 Docile.

Speaker 94 Yeah, you're probably right, but I didn't take it that way.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 132 That's great.

Speaker 26 You sure should have. Yeah.

Speaker 59 But, I mean, if there's anybody in this lower polling end that should be on the debate stage, it's Larry Elder.

Speaker 3 Definitely.

Speaker 13 And for some reason, of course, the Republicans will keep him out.

Speaker 67 That makes

Speaker 19 too much sense. Yeah.

Speaker 134 This is exactly what they'll do.

Speaker 52 Amazing.

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Speaker 3 CBS news poll that just came out surveyed pretty goodly number of Americans too, over 2,000. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 found that 70%

Speaker 3 of Americans feel things in America today are going somewhat badly or very badly. I guess that brings up the question,

Speaker 3 who are these other 30% that think

Speaker 3 it's going going well? Seemingly?

Speaker 41 How'd that happen?

Speaker 3 On the topic of the 2020 election, 71% of GOP voters do not consider Joe Biden as the legitimate winner. And of course, Democrats love to talk about that.

Speaker 3 But what they don't talk about is the fact that

Speaker 3 if you polled Democrats about whether or not Hillary legitimately lost in 2016, I bet it'd be a similar number.

Speaker 143 Oh, it is.

Speaker 27 This just came out.

Speaker 14 It's almost half who say that they believe Russians went into voting machines, not even just like, okay, they generally manipulated the population by posting on Facebook or whatever they accuse them of.

Speaker 75 No, going, went into voting machines.

Speaker 146 It's something like 40% of Democratic voters believe that's how Donald Trump got elected initially.

Speaker 3 Have you guys played the

Speaker 3 Democrat version of what they're accusing Trump? You know,

Speaker 3 there's 12 minutes of Democrats calling elections illegitimate. And then there's another one that came out that's double that.
It's 24 minutes.

Speaker 3 There's so many Democrats that have said it so many times. You've got, for just these quick clips, there's enough to fill 24 minutes of time with them denying elections.

Speaker 3 It's incredible.

Speaker 106 It is incredible. The hypocrisy is incredible.

Speaker 80 Now, of course, it's not an argument

Speaker 6 to do it.

Speaker 74 No.

Speaker 27 I mean, imitating the Democrats is not exactly what I want from the Republican Party.

Speaker 36 And I do worry that there's so much talk about how fake elections are all the time.

Speaker 76 You wonder if people are motivated to vote at all.

Speaker 48 I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 73 I feel like we're, we're, you know, again,

Speaker 68 this is, I know, sensitive stuff, and some people get really worked up about it much more than I do about primary time.

Speaker 41 I mean,

Speaker 8 primary season is the dumbest season. Everyone reacts crazily over everything.

Speaker 53 But, like, at the end of the day, you want your voters to show up.

Speaker 60 If you believe elections are legitimate, if you don't believe they're legitimate, why do we bother with this stuff?

Speaker 130 Why do we constantly talk about elections?

Speaker 137 Why do we talk about going to the polls?

Speaker 14 Why do we say go out and support your favorite candidate?

Speaker 2 Why bother with it?

Speaker 6 And I think there's

Speaker 23 so much defeatism

Speaker 78 that a lot of times I think we're talking our own voters out of voting.

Speaker 73 And that doesn't work well.

Speaker 79 No, I just don't, I don't know if people have realized that yet.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it shows that we're pretty cynical about the way things are going right now.

Speaker 3 When asked to describe the U.S. political system, 64% called it dysfunctional.
58% said corrupt,

Speaker 3 14, just 14% called it effective, 7% called it honest.

Speaker 155 That's not good.

Speaker 47 Pat,

Speaker 27 I was watching the movie Tetris this weekend.

Speaker 132 Uh-huh. Have you watched this yet?

Speaker 3 No, I have not.

Speaker 2 You heard of it at all?

Speaker 158 Yeah.

Speaker 58 So it's about basically the

Speaker 12 game, right?

Speaker 75 The video game and getting the rights to the video game. Yeah.

Speaker 76 A video game that was invented in the Soviet Union.

Speaker 80 So getting rights out of that environment, how do you do that?

Speaker 48 They don't do capitalism.

Speaker 12 How do you get rights, worldwide rights, to the game Tetris?

Speaker 87 Well, it was all about the, it's all about the inner workings there.

Speaker 93 And at times,

Speaker 76 watching it is fascinating to bring you back to that era, you know, because it's one of those things where like you could go and they could pull you into, you know, you're thinking you're going into a meeting and you wind up getting the crap beaten out of you in the hallway and you go back to your hotel room and it's bugged.

Speaker 141 And this is how business was back in Russia.

Speaker 132 And I'm sure at some level still is, maybe not quite as bad as the Soviet Union days.

Speaker 12 The reason I bring that up, though, is like

Speaker 58 these polls at times can feel a little misleading, you know, because like, wait a minute, people think things are that bad in America.

Speaker 130 But what we're talking about, I think, when we answer these polls is we're comparing it to our vision of what America should be.

Speaker 111 Not to the Soviet Union.

Speaker 8 We all know that life here is not the Soviet Union.

Speaker 109 I know that we can go, we do business every day, Pat, as

Speaker 132 straight out public opponents of the regime, if you will, in this analogy.

Speaker 118 And we're able to do it. And we're able to live lives and do commerce.

Speaker 58 And yes, we have high-profile examples of people being debanked and being thrown off of social media and having their voices silenced.

Speaker 128 And those are super important to talk about.

Speaker 81 But generally speaking, most of us are able to

Speaker 12 live our lives and live in a country that I still think is better than every other option there is.

Speaker 47 And it's important to note, when we talk about polls like this, it's not comparing it to the Soviet Union or Kim Jong-un.

Speaker 25 Even if we use some of those same terms sometimes, people will use terms that go, you know, that are, you know, that illustrate visions of, you know, regimes from 50 years ago.

Speaker 11 But I think what people are talking about here is this feels closer to that than we should.

Speaker 121 This is supposed to be a country where everything is free.

Speaker 109 You never have to worry about that stuff.

Speaker 16 And all of a sudden we have to.

Speaker 147 Like, does it feel corrupt here?

Speaker 98 Yeah, it feels corrupt here right now.

Speaker 70 Feels like everybody's corrupt.

Speaker 136 Everybody that touches politics seems to be corrupt, with a possible exception of Mike Lee, who just doesn't seem like he ever gets involved in anything, which is great.

Speaker 165 That's why I love the guy.

Speaker 133 But outside of that, it seems like every person we ever talk about is in some sort of corruption scandal, even if it's BS, even if they're the victims of the corruption.

Speaker 127 And there's no, it's understandable that people feel this way.

Speaker 80 You know, I mean, it feels like everybody's being targeted for things that they say.

Speaker 84 You know, we were talking a little bit off the air about Tua, the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins,

Speaker 48 who

Speaker 133 is being beat up by the press and people online now because he said he liked the movie Sound of Freedom.

Speaker 3 Yeah, listen to his quote.

Speaker 3 He said, we had an off day yesterday coming here, went to dinner with the guys on Monday, and then we also got to watch a movie yesterday. So it was cool.
It was like a movie fest yesterday.

Speaker 3 The sound of freedom's good.

Speaker 48 Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 Sound of freedom's definitely good. You should watch that, especially you guys with kids.

Speaker 3 Then he also said that they watched Oppenheimer as well, called that pretty good, but freaking long.

Speaker 132 It is long. It is.

Speaker 106 I will say.

Speaker 74 I liked it.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was very good.

Speaker 162 It was three hours, right?

Speaker 132 Does it feel like three hours?

Speaker 3 No. Or are you entertained the whole time?

Speaker 82 I was entertained by it.

Speaker 3 I also really like the subject matter.

Speaker 142 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 138 I'm fascinated by that.

Speaker 70 And it's an incredible story.

Speaker 8 And I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 12 Like, obviously, they're going to ask questions about whether, you know, the ethics of the nuclear bomb and its use, or the atomic bomb and its use.

Speaker 24 However, I thought it was a,

Speaker 146 they did a good job balancing it, and I thought it was good.

Speaker 98 I thought it was very solid. Did not feel like three hours, but it probably felt 220.

Speaker 172 It didn't feel like it was 90 minutes.

Speaker 106 I'll tell you that.

Speaker 72 It was pretty long. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, you can't praise the sound of freedom, you know, without getting bludgeoned to death. And he did.

Speaker 3 Listen to this comment from some Dolphins fan.

Speaker 3 I will absolutely admit that as a lifelong Dolphins fan and a big Tua fan, that Tua's comments were not only disappointing, but demoralizing and concerning.

Speaker 3 Sound of Freedom has exploited religious people during its entire run.

Speaker 3 It's horrible that he is just another brainwashed idiot.

Speaker 3 How bizarre is it that these people hate this movie so much that anybody who likes it is the enemy now?

Speaker 3 Why? Are you trying to protect child sex trafficking?

Speaker 132 Is it

Speaker 132 something you're really into?

Speaker 49 That is one thing.

Speaker 183 You could be the only reason I can think that you would be bludgeoning the people who've liked the movie.

Speaker 11 They're stopping your sex trafficking.

Speaker 119 Yeah, maybe you want more children imported.

Speaker 68 You're saying, hey, my supply supply is drying up and

Speaker 15 I'm a little upset that they're drawing attention to this.

Speaker 16 Therefore, I'm going to oppose it viscerally online.

Speaker 108 Right. Because I can be saying, like, I didn't like that movie.

Speaker 27 It's being used by Republicans or something.

Speaker 17 I don't even know if it is, really.

Speaker 18 It's really just been more of a

Speaker 39 general, it's really just generalized commentary on we shouldn't have sex slaves that are children.

Speaker 7 Like, I don't think it's like a super controversial topic.

Speaker 3 And they don't even, you know, I keep seeing that it's a religious movie.

Speaker 173 In what way?

Speaker 48 Is it? I don't know.

Speaker 3 They don't promote anybody's religion as far as I can tell.

Speaker 159 Yeah, I mean, in that movie.

Speaker 75 If you happen to be the,

Speaker 167 if you listen to this program, it's very possible you were responsible for this movie in a small way and that the people, the actual operation that is featured in the movie was

Speaker 8 funded by this audience.

Speaker 25 Tim Ballard came on the show.

Speaker 64 He talked about it.

Speaker 15 Glenn talked about it, asked you to donate for this operation.

Speaker 79 They got the money.

Speaker 12 They did the operation.

Speaker 8 The movie went into production years later.

Speaker 58 In fact, it's been done for years.

Speaker 8 It was done in 2017, 2018.

Speaker 49 Glenn, I remember Glenn

Speaker 8 talking to me.

Speaker 71 He had seen it back then and was like, ah, it's really good. I don't know when it's coming out.

Speaker 119 Well, the answer basically, if it was up to Disney, was never.

Speaker 79 Because they had, they wound up merging and getting control of this movie and they just put it on the shelf.

Speaker 16 Eventually we were like, well, someone wants to pay us for this for some reason.

Speaker 68 Let's just give it to them.

Speaker 20 And Angel Studios put it out.

Speaker 109 And it's been one of the biggest.

Speaker 62 I mean,

Speaker 124 it's a monumental success.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 163 I don't know if we've done this.

Speaker 3 It's paid $177 million. Yeah.
And it cost $14 million to make.

Speaker 161 I mean, think about it.

Speaker 113 It's beating both Mission Impossible

Speaker 74 and

Speaker 48 the

Speaker 3 Indiana Jones movie. Yeah.

Speaker 74 Now, remember, it came out, I think, right around the Indiana Jones.

Speaker 16 It was right around July 4th.

Speaker 71 and the Indiana Jones thing came out, and it beat it on its first day when it came out.

Speaker 48 And everyone's like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 And I remember thinking, like, that number one, that's incredible.

Speaker 17 Number two, that's not sustainable.

Speaker 80 Like, this movie is not going,

Speaker 25 even though Indiana Jones sucks,

Speaker 68 it's no way it's going to sustain that.

Speaker 81 It is now defeated.

Speaker 163 It's going to out-earn Indiana Jones.

Speaker 68 Listen to the number.

Speaker 8 These are the movies that are behind it right now.

Speaker 48 This is incredible.

Speaker 68 You've got the latest Indiana Jones sequel is $4 million behind it.

Speaker 153 It's been run in 177, Indiana Jones 173.

Speaker 127 After that, the latest Mission Impossible sequel, the latest Transformers sequel, the latest Rocky sequel, Creed 3.

Speaker 27 Wow.

Speaker 136 The latest Pixar movie.

Speaker 19 The latest Fast and the Furious sequel.

Speaker 149 Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker 23 And then you've got stuff like Puss and Boots, The Last Witch, Wish, Scream Six, The Flash, and the only.

Speaker 12 All Behind.

Speaker 3 All Behind. Sound of Freedom.

Speaker 141 The next one ahead of it is, and it will pass this, John Wick chapter 4.

Speaker 133 And it has a shot at passing Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantamania, which earned over $200 million.

Speaker 16 It's probably the last one it has a chance at, but still, that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 122 It could get into eighth place for the year.

Speaker 103 This is a movie that cost nothing and was sitting on the shelf with no one to distribute it.

Speaker 85 Five years. Five years.
Yeah.

Speaker 74 Crazy. And it's a movie that you likely helped fund.

Speaker 111 And it's like much more important, of course, is actually the operation that they're talking about in the movie.

Speaker 76 But like, you know, these things come and go.

Speaker 42 We were talking about this,

Speaker 157 and of course, you were here for so much of this, Pat, that like this audience has done so many incredible things over the years.

Speaker 75 Incredible things that no one would believe.

Speaker 76 I mean, saving people in Afghanistan, like a radio audience, what?

Speaker 127 This is a small example of it, but right now it's a high-profile one.

Speaker 125 And that none of this happens.

Speaker 74 None of this happens in real life.

Speaker 96 And then the movie's not made if it's not for this audience coming together and being like, you know what?

Speaker 176 I think maybe we're going to be on the anti-child trafficking thing.

Speaker 36 I think we're going to take that side of it and we'll let the left oppose us.

Speaker 121 We'll let the left come out and say, you know what?

Speaker 89 We disagree.

Speaker 164 We think you're wrong for opposing child sex trafficking.

Speaker 125 Apparently, that's their stance.

Speaker 108 Seems like it.

Speaker 159 All right.

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Speaker 3 Oh, one really interesting statistic from this CBS poll that we started talking about a few minutes ago

Speaker 3 among Trump supporters. Get this: 71%

Speaker 3 feel like Trump tells them the truth. 71 percent.

Speaker 3 That's a higher percentage than anything else

Speaker 3 they were polled about.

Speaker 3 Family and friends tell people the truth. Only 63 percent thought family and friends are truthful.

Speaker 3 So they trust Donald Trump

Speaker 3 more than their family and friends. Conservative media figures, 56 percent, and religious leaders 42 percent.
So almost 30 percent almost 30 percentage points more

Speaker 3 for the trust of Donald Trump than religious leaders.

Speaker 88 Wow.

Speaker 3 That's really something. That's fascinating.
That's really something.

Speaker 95 Fascinating.

Speaker 92 I don't think that's healthy for any person to get that level of trust, Donald Trump or anybody else.

Speaker 68 You know, you shouldn't

Speaker 141 trust one person like that.

Speaker 24 And I will say, the one interesting part about those four groups is Trump is the only one that obviously has a self-interest, right?

Speaker 8 Like, you know, you'd think your friends and family are telling you what they believe is true.

Speaker 16 They're not trying to sell you on a candidacy.

Speaker 81 Right. Conservative media, like you could, you could argue, well, it's a business, and it is.

Speaker 97 And that incentivizes people in the business to say things maybe in the most, maybe an outlandish way, right?

Speaker 27 Like, but there's no, there's no incentive to lie.

Speaker 58 You're certainly trying to tell what you believe is true, or no one's going to listen to your show, right?

Speaker 16 You might try to be, maybe you're trying to say it in an exciting way or whatever, to draw on an audience, but like certainly there's no reason, there's no incentive to lie.

Speaker 7 Your religious leaders, if your religious leaders have an incentive to lie, you really shouldn't bother wasting your Sundays.

Speaker 93 You know, I got news for you.

Speaker 16 If you trust Donald Trump more than your religious leaders, why are you going trust?

Speaker 132 It's not a problem there.

Speaker 165 The NFL is a problem.

Speaker 93 You should spend your time doing something else because you're not getting much out of church if that's what you think about your church.

Speaker 74 Again, like, I'm not even, this isn't an anti-Donald Trump argument.

Speaker 183 It's an anti-anybody argument.

Speaker 15 There should be no, I would be embarrassed to tell a pollster that I trusted a political candidate over my religious leaders.

Speaker 48 Why?

Speaker 75 Why would you bother being

Speaker 16 a member of a religion that you trust that infrequently?

Speaker 124 And I might be actively searching for new religious leaders.

Speaker 132 New religious leaders? That's the case.

Speaker 19 New conservative shows.

Speaker 124 And I would argue new friends.

Speaker 111 If you trust Donald Trump or any politician more than you trust your own friends, you need new friends.

Speaker 80 Why are you friends with people that you don't trust?

Speaker 101 And again, I think that what's amazing.

Speaker 37 It's whether they will tell you the truth, right? Yeah.

Speaker 80 And look, I obviously know that, you know, that's been a big thing with Trump where he's tried to say, like, I'm the guy that'll boil it down for you.

Speaker 144 And a lot of people, that's, you know, that's their flavor and that's fine.

Speaker 80 But like, it's just trusting anyone who wants

Speaker 8 that sort of,

Speaker 67 you know,

Speaker 9 I mean, it's, it's asking a lot of dedication.

Speaker 90 And, you know, I come back to this, Pat.

Speaker 17 Like, everyone's in the media is talking about how the DeSantis

Speaker 68 campaign has, you know, oh, they're having all these troubles.

Speaker 92 I mean, there must have been nine stories in the New York Times yesterday about the DeSantis campaign, a guy who's 30 points behind in the polls.

Speaker 158 Like, when has this ever happened?

Speaker 170 They usually bash the guy who's in front.

Speaker 64 And, of course, they do their share of bashing Donald Trump, too.

Speaker 16 But man, they are attacking Ron DeSantis as if he's leading the race by 30 points.

Speaker 48 But

Speaker 101 is Ron DeSantis running a bad campaign?

Speaker 55 Or is it just really hard to beat a guy?

Speaker 180 who

Speaker 125 people trust more than their family?

Speaker 176 How do you beat a guy where it's like, oh, family, friends, screw them.

Speaker 129 I trust this guy.

Speaker 77 How are you going to beat him?

Speaker 101 What's the path to that?

Speaker 21 It's not easy, especially when he's very well-funded and very famous.

Speaker 104 He has unlimited name recognition.

Speaker 147 If also his voters think he's telling more truth than family members and God,

Speaker 176 I don't know how you win.

Speaker 121 Maybe it's not that the Santa's is doing bad.

Speaker 157 Maybe this is a unique challenge for any candidate to go up against.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think that's the bottom line. It's really, it's really tough for any of these candidates.

Speaker 3 As far as the issues that are very important to them lower inflation number one reduce violent crime number two stop illegal immigration just slightly behind at number three cut federal spending stand up to china stop teaching woke ideas in school

Speaker 3 seventh though i mean a lot of talk has been on spent on that topic and that's seventh yeah on this list lower taxes is the last one they list i want lower taxes you might see count me in that yeah me too in that category

Speaker 3 you You might notice nowhere in that top 10 or so is the phrase climate change.

Speaker 138 Hmm. Where is

Speaker 13 how much more money can we spend on Ukraine?

Speaker 46 Is that in there? The Glendack program.

Speaker 79 Whoever said that summertime living is easy almost certainly never visited the great state of Texas.

Speaker 132 Have you noticed it's been a little warm lately, Pat?

Speaker 159 What? Yeah.

Speaker 48 Really?

Speaker 3 No, I hadn't noticed that. I think it's 106.
Like 111 is warm to you? Yeah.

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Speaker 132 No, not the chewy ones are delicious.

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Speaker 89 Is there anything better, though? Yes.

Speaker 132 Yes.

Speaker 132 Oreos?

Speaker 3 No. No, not Oreos.
Nothing comes, you know, this

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Speaker 48 No, it's not Hydrox.

Speaker 3 It's nothing from Nabisco. Okay.
It is from Kexie Cookies. Yeah.
You go to kexie.com, K-E-K-S-I, it's like sexy only with a K.

Speaker 132 Kexi.

Speaker 3 And it's not spelled with an X. But other than that, it's just like it.

Speaker 74 What a slogan.

Speaker 110 Did you develop that one for yourself?

Speaker 165 I did.

Speaker 116 That's a Pat Gray slogan.

Speaker 64 Yeah, you impressed. It's like sexy.

Speaker 132 But it's not the case. It's spelled the same.

Speaker 3 And it's not spelled with an X. So it's nothing like sexy, really, except they taste really good.
And, you know, some people think sexy is really good, too.

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Speaker 162 Well worth it.

Speaker 64 They are delicious freaking cookies.

Speaker 80 I love them.

Speaker 48 Really good.

Speaker 3 K-E-K-S-I. We got these, you can get mini cookies now because our big ones are just so big.

Speaker 163 Yes.

Speaker 3 A lot of people like to cut them in pieces.

Speaker 89 I do that.

Speaker 3 Yes, but we have just introduced these mini cookies.

Speaker 96 Really? Yes, you might try those.

Speaker 26 I will be trying those later today.

Speaker 8 That's one I think I've demanded from you off the air a couple of times.

Speaker 3 And it's happened.

Speaker 132 And it's happened.

Speaker 102 Please, they're too big.

Speaker 73 I will say, because it's like a meal.

Speaker 132 They're like a dessert meal.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 12 It's great for like when you have parties, we've ordered, you know, like, you know, a box of them and we cut them up into like quarters and everyone just kind of takes samples of different ones.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 131 And it's great.

Speaker 113 But I, the, the small smaller cookie is, is a good option to have, I would say.

Speaker 26 I think so. I'm excited about this.

Speaker 3 So, yes, now, now it's available at K-E-K-S-I-Keckse.com. Uh, all right, triple eight seven two seven B-E-C-K.

Speaker 3 Um, you know, we've, we've been talking about this, uh, Tui Tag of

Speaker 3 Tua Tag of Iloa situation.

Speaker 10 I don't even attempt the last name.

Speaker 106 I got to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 I just say Tua. It's hard.

Speaker 8 I don't even go near the last name.

Speaker 35 It could take me a month to pronounce that right.

Speaker 3 I don't have any idea. I know Tua's a big Christian, and he's pretty outspoken about that.

Speaker 3 But I don't know what his politics are. And he happened to mention that, you know, some of he and his teammates, the Dolphins, went out to a movie, a couple of movies.

Speaker 3 One of them was Sound of Freedom.

Speaker 155 The other was Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3 And because he said something good about Sound of Freedom, he is being.

Speaker 3 bludgeoned by, I guess, left-wing people.

Speaker 132 I mean, I don't understand.

Speaker 108 This is

Speaker 3 been the case ever since the movie came out, right?

Speaker 3 The second it came out, there was Rolling Stone articles, there were variety articles, everybody was bludgeoning the movie.

Speaker 132 Why?

Speaker 132 Why?

Speaker 73 And

Speaker 3 I guess the only thing that you can

Speaker 3 sort of tie into the movie is Jim Caviesel's participation in it. He stars as Tim Ballard, and he has said some things that

Speaker 3 I guess align with QAnon.

Speaker 28 They haven't followed all of his commentary on it, but that's always the accusation against him.

Speaker 10 And, you know, obviously a central part of the argument of QAnon, if there is an argument from QAnon, is, you know, there's a lot of child sex trafficking out there.

Speaker 152 Now, of course, we do know there is.

Speaker 68 Whether they, you know, it does seem like there's some liberties taken with the factual

Speaker 62 parts of this.

Speaker 3 One of the things that they believed, I think if I remember correctly, is that weren't they behind the

Speaker 3 Comet Pizza Pizzagate?

Speaker 3 Pizzagate, like they were doing a child sex.

Speaker 137 A lot of crossover there.

Speaker 50 I don't know if they were the originators or anything.

Speaker 155 In the basement. Yeah.
No, they didn't have a bad movie. There was no basement.

Speaker 3 It was a legitimate business that wasn't happening. Yeah.

Speaker 165 Look,

Speaker 55 but again, like...

Speaker 104 I don't agree with any of the actors I see in movies.

Speaker 78 I don't think I've ever agreed with an actor I've seen in a movie.

Speaker 77 They all say crazy crap.

Speaker 60 And I don't, I mean, I, generally speaking, don't care.

Speaker 75 The whole point is that they're playing a character.

Speaker 81 Now, I can understand that you don't, like, if it's, they're doing something so offensive to you.

Speaker 169 Like, we've definitely had people over the years that have said, I won't go see a movie by, you know, with Alec Baldwin in it because of his politics.

Speaker 140 Like, and you know, okay, fine.

Speaker 68 I mean, you know, it seemed like a lot of those movies end in people being shot lately.

Speaker 41 So it's been probably a good idea to stay away from those.

Speaker 112 But for understandable reasons, at times, an actor's profile can get in the way of their acting.

Speaker 8 If what they're known for is political speech, then you think of them as a politician or an activist or a commentator.

Speaker 142 And therefore, you can't be lost in a story.

Speaker 109 You only see them.

Speaker 58 And that's really my main criticism of actors constantly speaking up because it's their role to melt into a story.

Speaker 33 And you can't melt into a story when you're constantly running your mouth about the politics.

Speaker 21 They have the right to do it, obviously, but it ruins the movies at times.

Speaker 122 It does. So, like, I don't know, though.

Speaker 127 Has anyone ever, I mean, have you even heard the Caviesel comments about it?

Speaker 8 I've heard it being referenced a bunch of times.

Speaker 3 I've seen it in print a few times here and there.

Speaker 83 But that's it.

Speaker 80 People don't know Jim Caviezel for his QAnon beliefs, if he has QAnon beliefs. I don't even know if he does.

Speaker 98 But if he does,

Speaker 58 I don't think that's what people associate with Jim Covezel.

Speaker 142 Probably the thing they associate with him is the Jesus movie, right?

Speaker 123 They think, okay, he played Jesus in that big big

Speaker 33 in the passion, the big Mel Gibson thing, but from back in the day.

Speaker 2 That's probably about it.

Speaker 60 I don't think, you know, but like they're trying to make this into this political thing

Speaker 106 because I guess they see this as an attack that's,

Speaker 110 I don't understand it, honestly.

Speaker 138 Like, there are, there are a lot of things that political disagreement explains.

Speaker 77 Taking the opposite side on child sex trafficking shouldn't be one of them.

Speaker 171 It's weird. It is.

Speaker 104 You feel weird when you're on the side of like, you know what?

Speaker 135 I think we're just going to, we're going to, we're going to go, we're going to zig.

Speaker 53 We're going to zag here where people are zigging.

Speaker 74 People are all zigging into the

Speaker 63 anti-child trafficking thing.

Speaker 154 We're going to zag.

Speaker 124 Like, that's a weird thing to do.

Speaker 48 Very.

Speaker 3 It is so very weird.

Speaker 3 But that's where we are right now. I mean, we are so divided in this country.
I guess we can't even get together on child sex trafficking right now, which is pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 One thing we did kind of get together on, though, it's starting to

Speaker 132 occur even to CNN

Speaker 3 that Joe Biden is not telling the truth.

Speaker 132 He's a liar.

Speaker 3 He's a liar. Yes.

Speaker 3 And they actually, the words, Donald Trump was right were actually spoken on CNN.

Speaker 3 by Jake Tapper. Now, Jake Tapper, we used to praise him a lot for being objective.

Speaker 87 He was very good in the, what was it, early Obama years?

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 152 He was the only reporter who would ever ask a difficult question about Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 I mean, outside of Fox News. But then he seemed to come down with

Speaker 3 Trump derangement syndrome, not a fan of Trump at all. And I think that kind of messed up his objectivity.
But they were having a little discussion

Speaker 3 about what's going on right now. And he actually broke down and said something pretty amazing.

Speaker 5 And Kristen Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post had a fact check about about Joe Biden from earlier this month,

Speaker 5 noting that Hunter Biden admitted in court in July that he was, in fact, paid substantial sums from Chinese companies.

Speaker 5 Kessler wrote, Hunter Biden reported nearly $2.4 million in income in 2017 and $2.2 million in income in 2018, most of which came from Chinese or Ukrainian interests.

Speaker 5 And this directly goes against what Joe Biden said in the debate in 2020 with Donald Trump. Take a listen.

Speaker 167 My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about, China. What'd you make? Not a vice president.

Speaker 167 He made a fortune in Ukraine, in China, in Moscow, simply in various other places.

Speaker 5 So it's from two different debates, but I mean, Trump was right. I mean, he did make a fortune from China, and Joe Biden was wrong.
I don't know that he was lying about it.

Speaker 5 He might not have been told by Hunter, but this blind spot is a problem.

Speaker 189 It's a problem, one, because Republicans aren't going to let it go.

Speaker 167 That's for certain It's a problem.

Speaker 48 These problems shouldn't be coming into the legal system.

Speaker 189 It's not as though this is something that's been settled in other jurisdictions and Republicans are just harping on it. It is an ongoing thing in our courts.

Speaker 5 It's not going anywhere. This is a blind spot.
Does it concern you as a Democrat? Well, I think dads have sometimes, and parents sometimes have blind spots about their kids.

Speaker 41 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 And that is an understandable exception.

Speaker 167 But nothing has tied the president

Speaker 5 of Hunter Biden. Stop it.

Speaker 132 Stop saying that. Okay, so they

Speaker 132 should.

Speaker 3 They had to get the lie in there somewhere. They couldn't just do an actual real segment.

Speaker 41 No, nothing to answer is tie.

Speaker 10 Nothing is. There's been no evidence of ties directly.

Speaker 119 What are you talking about?

Speaker 8 There's been tons of evidence.

Speaker 96 Has there been irrefutable proof in a court of law yet?

Speaker 41 No.

Speaker 132 But

Speaker 111 there is certainly evidence.

Speaker 25 I give you the WhatsApp message, for example, where Hunter says he's sitting in the room with his dad when one of these deals is going down, and he's saying, you know, he and his dad are going to punish you.

Speaker 8 Now, they are denying that's a real message. We will see on that one, but that's certainly evidence brought to by a whistleblower that would point you in that direction.

Speaker 37 The

Speaker 163 text that they are not at all saying is not true from

Speaker 136 two business associates of Hunter Biden's talking together, right?

Speaker 81 Where they say, hey,

Speaker 58 we're not supposed to say that Joe is involved in this because they're really sensitive about that.

Speaker 92 So only say that stuff in person.

Speaker 23 My God.

Speaker 74 That is on record. No one's opposing it.

Speaker 110 No one's saying it's a fake message.

Speaker 49 We can go down the rules.

Speaker 8 And one of the things that's very interesting here is they keep saying, well, there's no direct payments to

Speaker 35 Joe Biden.

Speaker 124 Obviously, right?

Speaker 75 No criminal enterprise worth its salt would make the payment go to the vice president of the United States in its front first name.

Speaker 180 We do have

Speaker 60 evidence that these communications were happening potentially

Speaker 39 under a fake name, and that's being looked into right now.

Speaker 137 Again, more evidence to that front, or at least accusations.

Speaker 22 Again, these are coming from outside whistleblowers in the government, in Biden's government are saying these things.

Speaker 180 But in addition to that, we have texts from Hunter Biden complaining that he has to give the money that he gets to his dad.

Speaker 103 50% of the money.

Speaker 127 I keep having to spend half the money that I make and give it to him. Yep.

Speaker 180 There are multiple text messages where he said it to other family members.

Speaker 124 We have

Speaker 176 corporations set up in the names of children in this family.

Speaker 73 Why on earth would you do that?

Speaker 121 Pat, do any of your kids have LLCs set up when they were eight years old?

Speaker 109 You set any overseas companies in their name?

Speaker 176 Does anyone you know, have anyone you've ever met done anything like that?

Speaker 55 There's only one reason to do it, which is to launder money in this way.

Speaker 8 And if all this stuff turns out to be true, or half of it turns out to be true, we will be able to,

Speaker 81 at the end of the day, figure out that this is Joe Biden.

Speaker 42 But at this point right now, what we do have is strong evidence indicating that it's likely.

Speaker 108 Yeah. That's not nothing.

Speaker 3 To say that there's no evidence to connect this. It's just a stupid statement.

Speaker 79 And even if there was no direct payment to Joe Biden, which

Speaker 124 it would be amazing if there were, right?

Speaker 119 Like it would be insane if there were.

Speaker 41 But like, you're an 80-year-old guy who's already independently wealthy.

Speaker 124 What else are you going to do with your money, but give it to your kids and their family and your troubled son who's going through all these tough times the benefit you're getting from these interactions is helping hunter that's what you're trying to do if he really is this loving dad who's constantly trying to buy his kid out of trouble what do you think he's doing with this stuff it's

Speaker 93 he's showing up not only on on speakerphone but also eating

Speaker 176 With he's going physically to the dinners with business associates.

Speaker 108 And somehow,

Speaker 172 it's the first time ever that a one-hour dinner with a bunch of business associates occurred and no business was discussed.

Speaker 129 The first time in human history.

Speaker 176 Every other time business has been a topic, but this one time it wasn't.

Speaker 111 It's so absurd to believe this. They don't believe it.

Speaker 3 Well, you can write out the dinner if you talk about business. So you know they wanted to do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 74 Well, that's true. Right.

Speaker 132 So there you go.

Speaker 3 I mean, it is. It's absurd.

Speaker 3 You've got to be butt stupid to believe the Democrat Party line on this. 888-727-BECK, more Patton Stew for Glenn coming up.

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Speaker 3 what looks like a gigantic

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Speaker 108 It does look like a gigantic gigantic brownie.

Speaker 3 It is actually not.

Speaker 3 It's a dinosaur vertebrae

Speaker 3 that I got from the ICR Discovery Museum.

Speaker 3 They wanted me to have this. We're going to have one of the representatives on our Friday show.
We do these conspiracy shows once a month on the last Friday of the month. Really? And just talk about

Speaker 3 controversial things. Young Earth is the topic this coming Friday.
And so how do dinosaurs fit into that? If the world is only, you know, you know, the theory that the Earth is 7,000 years old, right?

Speaker 3 Rather than 4.5 billion. So there's a little bit of a discrepancy there between science and the Christian belief that it's 7,000 years old.

Speaker 68 And there's no one who takes the position it's in between.

Speaker 62 It's either 7,000 or 30 billion. It's either 4.5 billion.

Speaker 15 7,000

Speaker 48 or 4,5 billion. There you go.

Speaker 3 Take your pick.

Speaker 44 The ICR is Institution for Creationism Research or something like that.

Speaker 132 Something like that. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 It's a really nice museum, too. And they've got cool dinosaurs in there and whatnot and so forth.

Speaker 48 And delicious brownies, apparently.

Speaker 132 And delicious.

Speaker 3 Now, they're a bit hard.

Speaker 3 You want to make sure that you're really sharp teeth when you bite into those.

Speaker 26 So that's coming up Friday? Yeah.

Speaker 117 That's a big show.

Speaker 80 Also, Wednesday is going to be an interesting day.

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Speaker 9 Lots of good stuff coming up for the election as well.

Speaker 3 Now, I meant to ask the other day because Joe Biden claimed that they've, you know, cured cancer, that that changed everything.

Speaker 132 He ended cancer, I believe, was quote, we've ended cancer as we know it.

Speaker 3 So I'm just wondering

Speaker 132 if

Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 website has been updated.

Speaker 131 Let me just check here.

Speaker 65 Has Joe Biden

Speaker 8 cured cancer.com?

Speaker 16 If you go there, you can always check if it's true or not.

Speaker 86 Has he cured cancer.com?

Speaker 61 The answer right now, as of right now.

Speaker 149 Right now. Right now, it's yes.

Speaker 132 No. No.
Oh, wow. No.

Speaker 28 He is not.

Speaker 19 Cancer still exists.

Speaker 3 It's an unpleasant surprise. Doggone it.

Speaker 132 That's it. He said he did.

Speaker 3 Huh, weird.

Speaker 61 I don't understand why

Speaker 54 what exactly fell apart there.

Speaker 59 That was really weird.

Speaker 109 We didn't get a chance to talk about that in any depth together, but like that was like, did someone tell him it was cured?

Speaker 132 Like, I'm worried.

Speaker 3 It's really weird.

Speaker 185 Why did he say that?

Speaker 105 Nobody knows. Wild.

Speaker 3 Nobody knows.

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