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And

look, it's debate week.

We're here.

This is it.

Red alert.

Panic.

We are in the middle of this election.

This is actually happening.

Of course, Wednesday night is the big night for the debate.

Happens on Fox News.

Of course, we know Donald Trump is telling us he's not going to be there.

He's going to do an interview with Tucker Carlson.

And,

you know,

we should get into the conversation as to whether that's a good decision and whether it's not.

I can certainly understand it, and we'll get into that here in just a couple of seconds.

But you look at this race as it shapes up, and we enter a race in which we have

a few tiers of candidates, but in the top tier, there's only one candidate.

I mean, it's Donald Trump.

He leads by a wide margin.

New poll out from NBC News and

kind of the

most respected pollster by the mainstream media in Iowa has results out today.

Donald Trump, 42%,

Ron DeSantis at 19.

Tim Scott at 9%, Nikki Haley and Mike Pence at 6%, Chris Christie, 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%,

Doug Bergamentum at 2%,

and Will Hurd at 1%.

And I don't know what the Republicans, you know, you never can understand these things.

They make these rules up about people getting into these debates and they make the restrictions so strange here, you know, not to get into the minutiae of it, but you have to get into, I think it's three polls, three national polls where you show up at 1%.

I mean, I don't know, 1%, that's enough to get on the debate stage.

Okay, it's early.

Maybe make the argument.

Everyone should at least get a shot.

I can understand that.

But now

everyone's getting on the debate stage.

There's a cocker spaniel I saw on the way in.

He's now going to be on the debate stage.

Everybody's getting on.

Asa Hutchinson says he's now qualified for this.

Now, we watched Asa Hutchinson bomb at the...

at the candidate forum we did with the Blaze in Iowa a few weeks back.

It's not like he's caught fire since then.

He's just, he's had 1% in a couple of polls.

And you're like, well, 1%?

I mean, if you're mentioned, people by mistake get you to 1%.

And not to mention, this whole process gives an inordinate amount of control to the media and the people doing the polls.

If they don't include you in the poll, there's no way you'll get to 1%.

An example of this, and maybe we'll get to this audio during today's program, is Larry Elder, who, look, you know, I don't know if Larry Elder is going to, it's going to be, it's a long shot for him to win the nomination, clearly.

However, we all do know Larry Elder as a really good communicator, a really smart conservative, a guy who's been around for a long time, who knows these issues, who's clearly better than someone like Asa Hutchinson.

And yet he's not included in many of these polls, so he doesn't get 1%.

And of all the people they're going to throw on this debate stage, including people like Doug Bergham,

Larry Larry Elder is not going to be there.

He might be the strongest debater in the entire field, and he's not even going to be on stage.

And we remember back from 2016 when there were 75 candidates,

they broke that in.

Remember this?

They broke this into the main debate stage and then like the kiddie table, and they had all people at like 1% and 2% battle it out.

in like the pre-show.

It was mocked at the time, but honestly, like we're going to have nine or 10 people on the stage if this plays out the way we think it's going to play out.

And do you get anything from a debate like that?

Do you get anything from this?

I understand why Donald Trump isn't going to show up at a debate like that.

Why would he?

What's the point of it?

You get a bunch of people with 0% and 1%.

battling at a game.

You get, you know, Mayor Suarez from Miami going up against Doug Bergham, who's up against Asa Hutchinson.

You know, there's a guy named Perry Johnson.

You ever hear that name before?

No?

Have you listened to talk radio all the time and never heard the name Perry Johnson?

I don't blame you for that.

Who would know Perry Johnson?

He's now claimed that he's qualified for the debate.

He's running for president.

He's just some guy.

And apparently he's been mentioned in a couple of polls, hit 1% in those polls.

You can manufacture donors, which is the other big qualification to this.

Doug Bergham famously did this where

he would offer you $20 gift cards if you gave him a $1 donation.

So people did do that, which is a good,

there's a cost-benefit analysis that makes sense for that donation, right?

You're giving somebody $1, they're giving you $20.

Most people went along with that.

So he got to 40,000 donors.

And 40,000 donors with some different state requirements, it's not that high.

You could just pay for that, right?

That's just a matter of whether you have money or not to pay for that.

It's a sort of a meaningless standard.

And so he got to

that number, apparently, he claims.

And now he may be on the debate stage too.

We could have 10 people on the debate stage.

And none of them are going to be Donald Trump, the guy who's actually winning.

It really is.

It's hard to overstate how ridiculous this process is getting.

And I'm not saying it's easy.

It is difficult.

These guys are gamifying this.

They're trying to beat the system so they can get on the stage in front of your eyeballs and hope that they will say some magical phrase.

I mean, the path to this happening for Doug Bergham is super long,

but you know, he's running for president.

He's got a bunch of money to throw at the problem.

Why not give it a shot?

Now, I can make a lot of arguments why for the country, there's not really a reason to give it a shot because we're going to get very little out of this debate, I fear.

I fear that, you know, we're not going to get much when it comes to candidates who actually have a chance to win the nomination.

And look, we're at a different stage.

You know, we've all talked about this before.

Donald Trump was president of the United States.

He's the most famous, I would argue, the most, the most famous person in the world.

So that's a pretty good start for a campaign.

He's got lots of money, lots of resources to throw at this.

And he, you know, has been the leader since the beginning.

And this has never really been a huge question.

The question was whether there was someone else we should consider.

And when this comes down to Donald Trump versus Joe Biden and or Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton, the decision for most people is pretty easy when it comes to conservatives.

Obviously, we're not voting for that person, so we vote for the other person.

When it comes to a primary, these are different flavors of conservatism, right?

We're supposed to be sitting here thinking, hey, which one is going to do a better job?

We know what Donald Trump did, did a lot of good things.

There were some issues as well that that people didn't like.

Maybe you don't like his spending policies.

Maybe you didn't like that he tweets too much, whatever your problem is with Donald Trump.

You have a chance to look at other conservatives, other possibilities to see if one is better.

And that's supposed to be a sane process.

It's not.

It's turned into this reason to just hate everybody who agrees with you on most things.

Oh, gosh, that person likes the candidate that I don't like.

Therefore,

they shall be murdered by me.

Like, that's an idiotic way of looking at this, but it's what it's turned into.

Primary season is the dumbest season.

People lose their mind in this season.

They just get so angry about every little thing.

And I don't understand why it happens, but it happens.

And that's where people are now.

And so we enter this debate.

I think a lot of people want to hear, okay, you know, what does Ronda Sandis have to say?

What does Tim Scott have to say?

What does Nikki Haley have to say?

What does Vivek Ramaswamy have to say?

You know, Ramaswamy's had some really good polls, especially online polls that have showed him to be surging.

Is he the real deal?

He's a really good communicator and a very solid candidate and a guy who we've had on the show a bunch of times.

He knows his stuff.

He's very good at speaking and can communicate these ideas in ways that other candidates fail to.

And it's helped him quite a bit.

He's exceeded expectations.

I think if you look at the entire field, there's really only two candidates you can say that about.

It's probably Vivek Ramaswamy and clearly Donald Trump, which I don't know that he's exceeded my expectations.

I expected him to be ahead, maybe not by this much, but I did expect him to be leading at this point.

But now we have a situation where the guy who will probably win the nomination isn't even going to be on the stage, and people like Asa Hutchinson will.

You want to talk about dysfunction?

We're right in the middle of this.

And, you know, Donald Trump is talking about his decision to not go to this debate, and he seems to be hinting he's not going to go to any of them.

Now, I don't know that people really believe that.

I think if

the race were to tighten, he would obviously go and debate in that situation, I think.

I don't think there's any question about that.

You know, if

Ron DeSantis has some big moment in this debate and starts rising and gets within 10 points of him, you can be sure that Donald Trump's going to show up at the debate stage because he's going to want to try to crush him.

And that will be really interesting.

But we may need to wait for a moment like that to actually happen to get something interesting out of this.

At least something helpful.

At some level, Donald Trump kind of demands the news attention whenever he is in a room.

So these guys do have a chance to make a difference.

Maybe having their, you know, people having their eyeballs on them for a night does change people's perceptions.

Maybe it leads to a breakout candidate.

We see this every campaign cycle, usually.

It would be surprising if what we saw was a Donald Trump runaway victory with no one ever even making a move.

And I mean that more from

outside of the top two, you have that field below of between

eight and 12 candidates at this point.

that one of them doesn't have a breakout moment.

You know, if you remember, go back to the Democratic primary of 2020.

You had your Pete Buttigieg moment.

You had your Kamala Harris moment.

You obviously had moments where Bernie Sanders was leading and Joe Biden was leading.

And it seemed like, you know,

there are ebbs and flows of these things.

We haven't really had ebbs or flows.

There's just been basically Donald Trump leading by somewhere between 20 and 50 points.

And

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He's just been leading this entire time, and he has a real argument to say, why would I bother here?

Let's go into that question here in just a second.

Should Donald Trump, should he be at this debate?

Would you go to this debate if you were him?

And what can the other candidates do to try to make noise in a race against someone they're not even debating?

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All right, the poll again that came out today, NBC News, Donald Trump, 42% in Iowa.

Ron DeSantis, 19%, Tim Scott, 9%, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence at 6%, Chris Christie at 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%, Doug Bergham at 2, and Will Hurd at 1.

And, you know, the question is, should Donald Trump show up for this debate?

Now, I, as a,

for selfish reasons, do want him to be at this debate.

I would like to see this to break up into into the, I want the kiddie table back.

I want, I want Doug Bergham and Asa Hutchinson all at the kiddie table.

They can have their little debate before the debate if they're going to make the stage.

And then have a serious conversation between the top, let's say, six or seven candidates, including Donald Trump.

I would like him to be there.

I think it's good for the country if he is there.

I think it's good for the conservative movement if he is there.

I would like him to be there.

However,

if I'm him, I don't know that I bother.

Why would you bother?

Your path right now, which is everyone talking about you all the time, seems to be working.

This poll is pretty consistent with other polling that we've seen recently that shows Donald Trump with a massive lead nationally, less of a lead in Iowa and New Hampshire, but still a pretty significant lead here of 23 points.

If you have a 23-point lead, what can you do by going to this debate?

Can you help yourself?

I guess is the question.

You got to break this into two different questions here.

Number one, what's good for America?

What's good for the Conservative Party?

If you care about this sort of thing, what's good for the Republican Party?

You'd like to see the leader in a race

making an appearance at a debate.

It's a big-time spotlight on your candidates, on your positions.

And you'd like to see that.

But from a selfish perspective, if I'm Donald Trump, it's like, well, I'm already winning.

Why don't I wait until they sort this out?

Let them, you know, if they're going to coalesce around one person or two people and those people are going to be within 10 points or 15 points of me, okay, then I'll go talk about them and try to blow them out of the water if I can.

But right now, why would I do that?

Why would I throw myself into a position where I got to get yelled at by, you know, stupid Chris Christie?

And

for what?

So I I can lead by 25 instead of 23 if everything works out well?

What's the purpose of this?

And not to mention, you know, you think about what he's decided to do, which is go talk to Tucker Carlson.

Now, Tucker will ask some difficult questions.

I hope.

I hope he pushes him.

I mean, Tucker could be a very difficult interviewer if he wants to be.

And

I think it's important that he presses Donald Trump on some of these things that he's going to have to face going forward and questions about his record on from a conservative perspective.

I think there's a lot of questions about that.

Obviously, you know, probably the biggest one in

the Republican voting base is

how the COVID situation was handled,

whether Anthony Fauci should have been employed the entire time he was and elevated to the levels that he was publicly.

Those are real questions.

Obviously, the spending is a big question.

There are things to talk to Donald Trump about about how how his presidency went.

You know, a lot of the people he complains about now, he hired.

And why did that happen?

Is that going to happen again in another Trump presidency?

These are questions that are legitimate to be asked of Donald Trump.

And that's why I think it would be interesting to see him on a debate stage.

How is he going to change this?

Look, being president is not easy.

You're not going to succeed in everything you do, but you should have answers as to how those things are going to change the next time you have a chance.

And of course, it's a

smart idea to give some counter programming.

He's going to do this and a lot of people will pay more attention to what he does with Tucker Carlson than the other debate.

So if you think of it from a game theory standpoint, he's got a big lead already.

He doesn't bring the eyeballs that Donald Trump always brings when he shows up on a debate stage.

Fewer people will be watching this debate.

And then it's going to be hard for these candidates to figure out a way to attack Donald Trump or I don't mean attack Donald Trump like the unfair way the media does, I mean in the way that any competitor needs to

compete.

You know, you can't go out there and just say, okay, well, you know, I just really like the other team, so therefore I'm just going to run it into the line for three times and punt.

Like, you can't do that either.

I don't think the voting base of the Republican Party wants to see attacks about January 6th and, you know, indictments and all of that.

They see that in a totally different way than the mainstream media.

And the stuff that Chris Christie is going to bring to the table is going to have zero effect

on

Donald Trump in the Republican primary, other than to help him.

But on the other side of that, you have to come up with some way to be critical of Donald Trump and the record that he was able to put together.

Because if you don't have any problem with his presidency,

why are you running?

Why are you there?

What is the point of you?

A lot of people in this race seem to be so scared of saying anything critical of Donald Trump's record.

I'm not saying about his personal character.

I'm not saying be MSNBC, but you have to be able to say something, don't you?

Don't you have to come out and say something?

And if you can't do that,

you know, probably don't belong in the race in the first place.

And I do think that there is a calculation

from some of the people in this field that are just saying, like, look, the bottom line is I'm not going to beat Donald Trump unless he completely destroys himself or gets thrown in prison.

So I'll just wait it out and then I'll try to win that secondary fight.

I can understand that theory.

I don't know if it's going to work, but look, when it comes to Republican primaries, nothing's worked against Donald Trump.

It may just be one of these things that is too steep a climb for any of these people to knock him off.

And that's certainly how it feels right now as we enter in the premiere debate week.

We'll have lots of coverage here on Blaze TV and the Glenn Beck program.

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Welcome, Pat.

Thank you.

Great to be here.

It's an exciting week.

We've got big coverage on Blaze TV, of course.

Wednesday night, we'll be there breaking it all down for you.

Also, by the way, if you want extended coverage, we're going to be doing that on my YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash stew doesamerica.

Worth checking out as we'll be trying to do this on every one of these debates and breaking all of this stuff down as we go through all of the next year and a half.

Hard to believe.

It's going to be that long.

It's not quite that long, I guess, now.

We're in August.

I mean, it's a year and three months.

Yeah.

So it's going to be a long, long road ahead.

Pat, we started the show talking about this new poll from Iowa.

This is from one of the more respected pollsters in Iowa, kind of the one that polling geeks think is the best in America.

And you can make that decision up for yourself.

But the results said Donald Trump 42% in first place in Iowa.

Second place, Ron DeSantis, 19%.

In third place, Tim Scott at 9%.

Tied after that is Nikki, excuse me, let's see, Nikki Haley and Mike Pence are at 6%.

You've got Chris Christie at 5%, Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%, and down from there.

Wow.

Ramaswamy is interesting.

There's an internal polling nerd debate on him going on right now, which is

when these polls are done online, he keeps showing up at like 10% and 9% and 11%.

When they're done in the traditional way over the phone, he's showing up at more like 2 and 3 and 4.

And so

the split is odd.

It seems to only be affecting him.

So it is a little bit of a weird quirk,

whether maybe the more online people who are super online and super engaged in politics, who generally speaking, you'd think would be the people who are showing up at the Iowa caucus.

But those people seem to be more pro-vivaic than

the average voter, apparently.

But we'll see how that plays out.

The poll interestingly breaks out as well, second choices.

So second choice, the number one second choice, as you might expect, is Ron DeSantis.

20% of voters identified him as their second choice.

Then after that, it was Tim Scott at 15%.

And then Vivek Ramaswamy at 12%.

And Donald Trump as a second choice for 10% of voters.

And I think one of the interesting things they did is they combined the total footprint.

People who are considering this candidate.

What percentage of voters are even considering them?

Okay.

Number one, you might expect Donald Trump.

63% of people are considering Donald Trump.

And this might be the one bit of encouraging information

for any other candidate here.

When you look at this, people's minds aren't exactly made up.

Ron DeSantis, his combined footprint in this poll is 61%.

It's only two points behind

when you're talking about if you're considering that candidate.

So it does feel like what people think about this field is like, you know, Donald Trump's winning.

He's the one that is favored right now.

But Ron DeSantis is someone that people like and they are considering him.

The next person down on that list, by the way, is Tim Scott at 53%.

If you want to break down polling and you want to make an argument for another candidate outside of those top two, Tim Scott's probably your best argument.

He doesn't have a lot of negatives.

He's seen as highly favorable.

He's usually in the top three or four polling-wise.

And there are very few people in these polls who say, oh, okay, I don't like that guy at all.

I won't consider him.

He doesn't have a lot of negatives.

So maybe there's room for him to expand.

After Tim Scott at 53%, you go to 40% for Nikki Haley.

She's the next one on the list.

Then down to Vivek Ramaswamy at 34, Mike Pence at 31.

And then you're getting down to, you know, Bergamentum, Doug Bergam, Doug Bergamania, 23% considering him.

So the field is kind of set up in,

correct me, Pat, if you think this is wrong, but this is the way I sort of laid it out.

You've got a top tier, tier one,

you've got Donald Trump there by himself.

Yeah.

Tier two,

you've got Ron DeSantis there by himself.

Tier three,

you've got Vivek Ramaswamy and Tim Scott and Nikki Haley and, you know, maybe a couple of others.

And then everybody else is like, should be in the kiddie table, really.

I mean, like, you get to a point where it's ridiculous.

They should go home.

Asa Hutchinson is saying he's made this debate.

Now, that's not been confirmed by the Republicans yet that this is true.

He's claiming he's hit the 40,000 donors.

He's claiming he's hit the polling requirements.

And he's going to sign the pledge to vote for the eventual nominee, basically making the argument, well, I will never vote for Donald Trump, but

I don't think he'll win.

So I'll sign it.

You don't think he'll win.

Right.

What he's already done.

He's only ahead by 40 points.

So, yeah, a small chance of him winning this thing.

So what's your take on this debate, where this field stands right now?

I just, I really think it's a little bit illegitimate without Trump being a part of it.

I'd really like to see him

debate the others to be there.

And

I think that trying to get them to sign some agreement that they'll vote for the eventual nominee is

un-American,

if you will.

Yeah.

How about this?

I'm going to vote for whoever I decide to vote for at that time when that time comes around and I see who the nominee is.

Otherwise, I might look for a third-party candidate.

Who knows?

But I'm not signing your agreement.

So

you can take that and stick it.

I think that's a totally fair stance.

You should.

I mean, look, I understand why they're doing it and they're trying to force people to, they're trying to force unity, but you can't force unity can't that's it's not a thing unless you're in the soviet union yeah you can't force not signing it um and you know if if that was part of donald trump's although i don't think it was part of his uh reasoning for not joining the debate then i i completely understand that although he just should have said how about this i'm not going to sign your agreement but i'll be in the debate or i'll be in your debate if you don't make me sign the agreement yeah i make them tell you no right right but he doesn't want to be in the debate because he's winning by a lot.

Yeah.

But I mean, that's basically what he said, too.

Yeah.

He said the public knows who I am and what a successful presidency I had with energy independence, strong border, strong borders and military, biggest ever tax and regulation cuts, no inflation, strongest economy in history, and much more.

I will therefore not be doing the debates.

Well, I mean, and like we talk about this sometimes, you know,

when it comes to sports teams and, you know, like if you have, you know, the Eagles played a preseason game this season, or this weekend,

Jalen Hurts didn't play in the game.

Why?

Well, what's the upside?

He's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

He could get hurt.

What's the upside?

And if you're Donald Trump and you're looking at this situation, you're saying, well,

I don't know, what's the upside here?

What do I get out of this?

How does this benefit my campaign?

And it's hard to make an argument that it could.

I just feel like for because I care about conservative conservatism, because I care about the country and who's going to lead it, I would like the guy who's leading the race to be in the debate.

I think it's good for the country.

Yeah.

But I can totally understand why, from his perspective, you're saying, why bother?

And there are some things that have come up in the last few years that I would really like his take on.

I'd like to see where he stands on certain things.

What are you going to do about the war in Ukraine?

What do you think about

the vaccine now?

Are you still as married to it as you were in the beginning?

I think a lot of people who are voting in this coming primary really have that question.

I think so.

And it's one he's going to need to answer at some point, you think.

You would think so.

But

he doesn't want to.

And it is hard to blame him because he's 30 points, 40 points ahead, depending on what poll you're looking at.

Yeah.

Now, in Iowa, to be fair, this one's only, it's only 23, which is still a huge lead.

Now, if you go back in modern history, no candidate at this time that was up by this much has ever lost.

So

you're looking at a situation.

This would be, I don't think it's fair.

I don't think it's unfair to say if he loses this election, it's the greatest choke in the history of politics, or at least close to it.

I mean, he shouldn't have a problem getting through this.

He's had a massive lead.

The media gives him fuel.

constantly

to make his road easier to win this nomination.

you know, getting criticized by all the right people is a powerful tool.

And Donald Trump has absolutely mastered the art of doing that.

And, you know, whether this helps him in the general is another situation, but in the primary, you know, he probably can just ride this.

Every indictment just makes him more popular.

Yeah.

Every indictment's like worth another five points for him.

It's amazing.

He said it, and people were like, oh, I can't believe he said that back in the day.

But like, could he shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it on camera?

i think probably yes probably could i think so and you know it's funny because many of donald trump's you know great moments have come in these situations where he's fighting with people right like i mean what they used to say back in 2016 why do we like him so much it's not his policies it's because he fights and then here he is with a chance to fight with all these campaign with the other other contenders and he doesn't want to do it And honestly, you look at this and you say, why would you?

What does it do for you?

You go for a 23-point lead, to a 25-point lead,

point lead 29 point lead that's all great but i don't know that it does that much for you and you have to sit there and watch asa hutchinson drone on i mean just to avoid that i understand his opinion even if he was losing the debates i don't think i would want to show up if asa hutchinson were there just because you'd be bored to death yeah

yeah it would it's not for him you know it's for the voters it's for the republican voters that's who it's for so if you're gonna do it that's the only reason to do it because it's not gonna help him You know, he doesn't need any help.

He's so far ahead that you might want to just do the rest of the campaign from your basement like Biden did last time.

Just stay out of the way.

And his basement's a lot nicer than Biden's.

Yes.

He's got a nice basement.

If he can get around all those classified documents he's been storing there,

it should be fine.

You know, I think it's

true because he really could just,

I mean, it would make sense from a, you know, from a, you're, you're a head coach type of standpoint.

You're the campaign manager.

Okay, Don, this is what we do here.

You sit back, you let them fight against each other, make idiots of themselves.

Half of them will probably quit before we even get to Iowa.

If someone emerges, if a challenge emerges, then you go in there and you knock it down, right?

Why try to knock down a challenge that isn't there?

And I don't think that's exactly right.

I do think, like, as we just talked about, I mean, Ron DeSantis has a path here, quite quite clearly.

Tim Scott has a path here.

You know, there are other candidates.

I mean, you can make an argument for Vivek.

You can make an argument for someone like Nikki Haley.

You can make an argument,

obviously, for Doug Bergamentum.

You could do that pretty easily.

But, you know,

there's not a real reason for him to do this

from a selfish standpoint.

You're right.

This would be

almost an act of

charity.

Yeah.

But one that I think has some merit.

I mean, I think like getting yourself in front of voters is something that is fundamental to our system.

And

I wish he was doing it.

Yeah.

I do too.

I really do too.

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But first, on Friday, Joe Biden sat down with the leaders of South Korea and Japan and then asked the press to leave.

This is great because I think he was told in his ear:

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And so here's what he said:

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Look at that.

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Wow.

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So somebody told him in his ear,

ask the press to politely to leave.

So that's what he says.

Ask the press to politely leave.

Is that really the way he phrased that?

It wasn't like,

I asked.

No, I'm not sure.

That's what I'm asking.

Again, play it one more time.

Politely asked the press to leave.

Politely asked.

to rest.

You know, so what he said, politely asked the press to leave and thank him for coming in.

And that's

exactly what came out of his mouth.

This is so bad.

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Yes.

Yeah, we would.

We would.

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Okay.

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What a disgrace.

It's embarrassing.

And there's so many examples of it.

You've got, of course, John Fetterman.

Nancy Pelosi gets on this run.

I mean, Mitch McConnell.

Let's say it clearly.

He should not be in office after what happened a couple weeks ago.

Diane Feinstein's the worst of all of them.

Yeah.

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They have a power of attorney over her, and she's a senator.

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It's embarrassing in every way.

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Joe Biden

just okayed the beginning of World War III.

We'll tell you

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Let me remind you of something that Joe Biden said.

But this, I mean, again, this is clear back in 2022.

So it was

last year.

I mean,

does your mind even go back that far?

I remember those times.

I remember that.

Do you really?

Yeah.

Do you really?

Yeah.

If you really think back, you can remember what it was like in 2022.

How old were you in 2022?

Do you remember back then?

They used to have

gas-powered automobiles.

Oh, my God.

And they had that's right i had forgotten it's been so long on every corner right pat you're driving around on every corner there's these these golden arches and they had these places called mcdonald's and mcdonald's yeah they would serve hamburgers and and and french fries and shakes and it was just an incredible time what a time now brings you back they should do it a sequel to back to the future and just see if they could capture right that moment get the flux capacitor running and see if they could capture and take us all the way back.

It's so

last year.

You're a distant memory.

It's hard to put yourself in that position.

Do you know I was four years old?

I was four.

Wow.

So I don't remember a lot of what you're talking about.

Yeah.

But here's what Joe Biden said last year about sending U.S.

jets into Ukraine.

He said, that's called World War III.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

wait a minute.

So if you send jets into Ukraine, that's World War III.

That's World War III.

Well, I'm glad we're not going to do that because I don't want World War III.

I think this is another stance, and I don't know if they're going to cover this during the debates, but it's a stance that I have, and I wish they'd ask about it.

Do you want World War III?

I'm a no.

Are you a hard no?

I'm a no.

Hard no.

I would not enjoy that.

Would like to avoid it if possible.

Okay.

All right.

So the things that you, if you had something that you yourself believe would start World War III, I would try to avoid that thing.

And he stuck to that for a good long time.

Like I said, that was last year until this year.

He stuck to that.

Oh, okay.

But now he just approved sending American F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands.

He just approved that.

Now, was it just training?

Was that the only line?

Was it just planes?

No, no, he said, the idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews, just understand, don't kid yourself.

No matter what y'all say,

that's called World War III.

Now, the trains, I agree with him on that.

Oh, if we send offensive trains in there, offensive train weapons,

you've gone too far.

When we send offensive train weapons into Ukraine, I join the Russian military.

I do it that day.

We've crossed that very serious line.

Now, so far, we've not gone that extreme.

No, no.

We have held back on that.

I mean,

train bombs are too.

It's too much.

Now, they're easy to avoid.

That's one good thing.

If you stay away from the tracks, you almost completely avoid them, which is great.

Yeah.

But there's a train derailment of the offensive train weapon bomber.

And if we've seen anything from this president, he can derail a train.

He's good at that.

Yes.

He's good at that.

Yes.

But he's already done the tanks, right?

That's already happened.

So that World War III has already started.

And now the F-16s

has been okay.

Now, are they going directly to Ukraine?

Is there a...

Well, they first, apparently, they've had stops in Denmark and the Netherlands.

Oh, okay.

Well, they won't be.

Russia won't be Netflix.

They won't understand.

Now, we're going to tell them.

They don't think, oh, those are Denmarkian

F-16s, right?

They're like, oh, gosh, Denmark.

You know,

the United States should file a copyright violation against Denmark and the Netherlands for them copying our plane.

How dare you?

How dare you copy our F-16?

And you might say, hey, maybe it's plausible.

We didn't tell them, you know, that we were giving them these planes and therefore they can't hold us overtly responsible with the exception of the fact that we are telling them almost every day.

We tell them all the time.

We announce every single move we're making.

Hey, by the way, we're sending in one Abrams tanks now.

When we made that big announcement months ago, and now it's, oh, by the way, we just said it's okay

for Denmark and the Netherlands to send our F-16s to Ukraine.

So that's going to happen now, too.

Now, I guess you could argue with that, if you listen to the specific wording of his statement, you could argue he's talking about American crews being brought in by these offensive trains.

Only if American pilots and crews are manning these weapons,

then it's World War III.

Right.

But not if Ukrainian pilots in American jets.

And I know if you're a Russian mom and your kid is just, you know, your kid's in the war and just been killed by a missile from an F-16, you're like, well, what's the nationality of the pilot?

I don't care if he died.

I care if he was killed by an American.

I know.

I care about what nationality was actually flying the American plane.

That's my line.

And that's where you draw the line.

That's where you draw the line.

Yeah.

Which is fascinating.

Not that you're going to have a fourth generation jet in the

Ukrainian arsenal now.

That's not the issue.

You don't care about that.

The issue is who's flying it.

Right.

Who's flying it?

Like, where are they from?

What housing complex are they from?

Are they from Idaho?

Do they follow the rules of their HOA?

Are they from MAMS now?

I have to know.

Or are they from Kiev?

I don't want to mock this too much because

Biden might do it.

And I really don't want American pilots in the middle of this.

I think we're headed that direction.

You do.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Because, I mean, they're losing right now.

This counteroffensive is not going well.

And

we were just reading an article about this that there are some who think the Ukrainian army is on the verge of collapse.

So if that were to happen,

I think that's when we step in with boots on the ground.

Well, yeah, because luckily we've set up the standard that we will only give them everything they need forever.

Everything, yes.

So that standard is very easy to keep up.

You just always say yes.

You just keep saying saying yeah.

If you say yes to everything,

eventually you do get probably two American boots on the ground.

And you do.

And like, look, I think we've said no to all of this stuff initially, and then, meh, yes.

The tanks, the jets.

Is there anything else?

The cluster bombs we said no to initially and then started sending them.

And so Zelensky just said today that this move is absolutely historic, powerful, and inspiring for us.

Oh, good.

Yeah, I'm glad glad he likes it because that's what is the main focus of the United States of America right now.

Does Vladimir Zelensky enjoy what we're doing?

Yeah, I mean, is he appreciated?

The central plank of American foreign policy has always been: is Vladimir Zelensky inspired?

And in this particular case, he's saying he is.

It was a weird plank before Zelensky took power.

I thought it was very weird when he was a comedian.

That was weird.

I was like, wow, that's a very strange plank.

But now it makes really good sense.

And look,

I think you can be a person who says these efforts, the way we're doing this is really, really questionable and still understand that, like, look, I understand.

If I'm Ukrainian, I am 100% number one trying to defend my country at all costs.

And I'm not saying, oh, sure, you can have Crimea.

What other regions should I be giving you?

I would be pissed if we were on the air in Ukraine, right?

Like we were, we're, we're like, morning's in Kyiv.

Hey, the traffic and weather is coming up here in Kyiv in just a few minutes.

I want to talk about the Russian invasion as well.

Our commentary would likely be, I know it would be for me, and I want to speak for you, but

my commentary would be like, screw

these Russians.

We're taking every inch of our territory back, and we're going to take some of theirs too, maybe.

And also, I would be saying,

Let's ask the Americans for every freaking thing they'll give us.

Will they give us stuff for free?

Will they?

Will they give us planes and trains and automobiles for free yes will they give us offensive train weapons that will go on the tracks and blow up somewhere will they give the if they will let's take them and let's beg for them i would a hundred percent be on that side of it i get it from their perspective i do too and i get helping uh other countries in certain ways that are advantageous to us strategically that's something that we do all the time and sometimes is vital but like you can't set a an expectation to a country like ukraine that we will support them for everything they need no matter what.

Eternally.

And that's basically what we've said.

Yeah.

As long as it takes.

What is it?

As long as it takes?

I mean, that is an impossible standard to hit.

And the only thing that saves us from this is it's possible that Joe Biden is lying.

And in reality, he's saying that as a front that eventually we're going to say, okay, well, let's have a settlement here and let's get these guys talking.

The other thing that gives you a little bit of hope, a modicum of hope that we could get out of this

is there's an election next year.

Yeah.

I mean, could the war still be going?

It looks like it's going to be.

Yeah, any.

I mean, not no chance of it ending before that, but I would say very small.

But there are several candidates, including Donald Trump, who have said

no to this.

I mean,

he has strongly indicated that he would strive to end this thing on day day one.

Yep.

Get the two sides together and

get a peace effort going.

I've said a couple of times on Mindshare, we haven't even sent Dennis Rodman yet.

What?

What in the hell are we doing?

He hasn't even been there.

He hasn't even been there yet to negotiate this peace for us.

What a disgrace is he on?

You haven't even taken that step.

They're just not serious about peace.

First step in any first step.

The very first one.

The first bullet flies, you call Dennis.

Yes.

And you say, hey, can you get over there?

Rod, can you be there by 3 o'clock this afternoon?

And he would.

He would.

I will say he would.

I think he would.

I think he would.

It's worth a shot.

You know, I mean, maybe he's just like Kim Jong-un and it works.

But several of the Republicans, certainly not Mike Pence, I think he keeps this thing going even stronger than it has been.

But there are several candidates who would get us out of this thing, I think.

I think so, too.

I mean, look, our stance needs to be actively.

Look, you could say a a lot of things publicly.

I think you should say very few things publicly.

And the few things that you say, if you're on the, we're already in this battle or probably, you're going to be supportive.

You want Ukraine.

We have a rooting interest in this, I think, from a governmental perspective, right?

But you're behind the scenes activity should be just get this over with.

Yes.

The American people, unlike the Ukrainian people, don't care about the Luhansk region, right?

Like, I get that.

They don't even know what it is.

Right.

I just want this to stop.

Yeah.

And, you know, what is in our interest here, this war ending.

Yeah.

And again, that has to be also with stopping Russian advances going forward.

That is part of it.

You can't just be like, all right, Russia gets to roll over wherever they want, whenever they want.

And we just say, okay, I understand why you push back against that.

But like behind the scenes, we need to be making sure that this gets over.

If they want our support, this has to be coming to an end at some point.

How much money are you going to spend on this?

this?

A lot.

So, well, it's 200 billion so far.

Just the 200 billion, though.

Yeah.

But, hey,

on the other hand, we've sent $700 to Hawaiian families who've lost everything.

So

that's not bad.

I mean, I don't know if it's all arrived yet.

No, it has.

Okay, right.

We're maybe going to send $700.

We promised to send it.

We have a pledge.

Is a pledge good?

It's good.

I mean,

how much of a house can you build with a pledge of $700?

Do we know?

A tiny part.

A tiny part.

Yeah, a really tiny part.

That's better than nothing.

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We were just talking about the difference between what we're doing in Ukraine and what they've pledged so far to Hawaii.

And this may not be everything, but

it's amazing to me that, you know, some of the some of the estimates of how much we've sent them to Ukraine so far is well over 200 billion.

When you include all the military and humanitarian aid, you put it all together, it's over $200 billion.

We've pledged so far $700 for the families who've lost everything in Hawaii.

And just to give you a little perspective on how heartbreaking that is, here's a Maui survivor talking about the president and calling Biden out.

And right now, the Maui community is helping the Maui community.

And I'm really, I'm, it's really affected me because where's the president?

He decides to come here this week to come here next week.

I mean, like, we're, we're,

aren't we Americans too?

Like, we're part of the the United States, but why are we not, why are we getting put in the back pocket?

Why are we being ignored?

Pretty good question.

Heartbreaking.

It's heartbreaking.

Well, no comment, Pat.

No comment on that?

No comment.

Really?

Yeah.

That's my stance on this particular issue.

No comment.

No comment.

I got to go to the beach.

Okay.

So

that's understandable.

Yeah.

What about Tahoe next week?

Are you going to be able to make it there?

I'll make it there.

Okay.

I'll make it there, but no comment on your little.

What was it?

A fire?

Yeah, fire.

Fire.

In Hawaii, but you don't have a comment on that?

No, I mean, was it really hot?

I'm really following it.

Was it hot?

Very.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, yeah, no comment on that.

Okay.

No comment on that.

I want to make a brave stance of no comment.

How weird is that, by the way, the no comment thing?

I don't even know.

I'm fascinated by it.

I don't understand it.

Again, I don't think Joe Biden cares about this at all.

Okay, I want to be clear.

I don't think he cares.

But you got to pretend.

You got to pretend.

You're in the middle of a presidential campaign.

Yeah.

Just politics 101 would describe you at least appearing to care.

Yeah.

And he has not crossed that bridge at all.

He's like, ah, screw it.

I don't care.

I mean, I guess he's so confident he can stay in his basement and he can beat Donald Trump by the media just hammering him and or and or arresting him and putting him in prison that he doesn't have to try.

Yeah.

But that's a dangerous tactic.

Do you remember when we contrasted this last week?

Do you remember when Donald Trump was asked immediately after, I don't know, he's coming out of some meeting and a reporter said, hey, any thoughts about Ruth Bader Ginsburg just died?

He's like,

Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

Yeah, she just died.

We just got that news.

And he stood there and made this really eloquent statement about Ruth Bader Ginsburg and what a great American she was.

And it was really presidential.

Do you remember that?

By your chance.

Yeah, a little bit.

And you contrast that with him being asked in something he should have been prepared for anyway, but he's asked about Hawaii and he's got no comment.

How is that possible?

Have you not had any time?

Have you not taken a minute to prepare something?

And again, like, you know, the Trump thing, the example, I kind of remember that, but, you know.

This is a political opponent, right?

Someone who tried to uproot his presidency over and over again.

Somebody who certainly wasn't an ally.

That's not an ally at all.

Where Maui, these are your voters.

Right.

if you're a Democrat.

Big time.

You're talking about 80%

voting for you in some circumstances.

Why?

Again, that shouldn't motivate your response here, but you'd think it would at least make you lead with empathy.

I know.

Even when you're talking about the most base politics that are involved here,

you should just for that,

just because these are your constituents, potential voters, you got something.

I'm so cynical on this stuff, Pat.

Like, there's not a part of me that believes that Joe biden actually would care about these victims but like

you just think politics would say hey i don't want to come off you don't want to come like what happened to george w bush through katrina yeah and i don't think he did show empathy he did uh care quite clearly when when the you know the historical writings came out about this period quite clearly he did care about this but the media was able to present him as if he didn't care and people bought that for a time And it hurt him.

It really hurt his second term.

I mean, it was, you know, arguably one of two things early in his second term that really derailed his presidency.

And

Joe Biden has no care at all about that.

Now, maybe he knows.

Maybe he's making a coherent calculation that, you know, look, the media is going to be on my side, so I never have to care about this.

More likely, I think he just really doesn't care and just rolls it out there.

It has

no awareness whatsoever.

He just doesn't care.

Doesn't care.

A fire, who cares?

It's pretty amazing.

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We went through the 2016

scenario, right?

And it was ugly.

Those debates were a mess.

Remember, we had the kiddie table debates.

Because there were 18 candidates.

18 candidates.

So you do like nine is too much for a debate.

You have nine on the stage, and then they'd all go away.

And then we'd come back with like the

adult table.

And then they'd do all the main contenders.

They'd fight it out.

And it was a disaster, and everyone hated it.

I demand the return of the kitty table.

I demand this year.

I want it back.

They set the standard too low, I think, for qualifying because it was only 1%

in three polls or something.

Yeah.

And so all you need is 1% and 40,000 donors.

Now, they're doing these stunty things to gain donors.

Anyone can get the donors.

If you have enough money, you can get the donors.

And so some of them, like Bergham, was offering 20 bucks for a dollar donation.

Okay.

Fantastic way to make it to be profitable.

Yeah.

But, you know, Bergham has a lot of money.

So he's been able to run tons of ads.

And so he, I'm not even, it's, Bergham isn't even the problem.

Like Bergham is actually like on the right, I would say almost on the adult side of the table.

He's borderline on the adult side of the table.

He's running a lot of ads.

He's got a lot of money.

If you make any argument that of these people, you don't know who's going to break out of that field.

I mean, at least make the argument it's Bergham, right?

You can't make the argument it's Asa Hutchinson.

It's totally pointless at this, at this point.

So just quickly running through who's actually qualified for this.

Doug Bergham's qualified.

He's in.

Ron DeSantis is in.

Nikki Haley is in.

Mike Pence is in.

Four.

Vivek Ramaswamy is in.

Five.

Tim Scott is in for sure.

Now, after that, you get to.

These are the certain.

These are the certain.

Chris Christie is basically a yes.

I don't know that he signed the pledge.

But what the way they're getting around signing the pledge is they're saying, well, I don't think, because remember, Chris Christie is saying Donald Trump is unqualified to be president.

That's the whole basis of his campaign.

How do you sign a pledge saying you'll vote for him if he wins the nomination?

His out on that is, I don't think he's going to win.

So I'll say that.

Yeah, right.

He's only ahead by 40 points.

It's a really

small chance of him being victorious in this thing.

Right.

It's obviously

ridiculous.

Yes.

But at the same time,

I can't imagine Chris Christie is going to give up on his debate appearance because he doesn't want to sign the pledge.

He's going to figure out yet another lie in his head to make that happen.

He's very good at crafting them.

That would be seven.

So that would be seven.

Now, Trump, it's funny, Trump hasn't actually qualified for the debate because he won't sign that pledge.

He said no.

So, and technically, we know he's not going to be there, but he hasn't actually technically qualified for the debate because he will not sign this.

The whole situation with

the pledge.

But let me give you some other names.

Asa Hutchinson.

Hutchinson has 11 qualifying polls.

That's how low this

has been set.

He's got 11 qualifying polls.

He's hit the donor situation.

So if he signs the

loyalty pledge, which he says he will, and he just says, well, I just don't think Trump will win.

He has that same out.

He will qualify the debate.

So how many is that?

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

That's eight.

Now, Trump is out, we know.

So then we have people like Suarez, the mayor of Miami.

Now, he has two qualifying polls, and he says he's hit the donor threshold.

What it seems like is he's just saying it, right?

There are people very, very skeptical whether he's actually qualified.

But the Republican, you know, the RNC doesn't seem to have any real way of figuring this out.

Like, they seem to be taking, at least on surface, just take their words statement from the candidates.

Oh, wow.

Now, he would still need another qualifying poll this week to get in, but it could happen.

Okay.

So that would be

nine.

Will Hurd.

Also has the donors.

Come on.

He has three qualifying polls.

He's got 40,000 donors.

Yep.

Anyone can can get 40,000 donors.

That's why this is dumb.

Yeah.

Also,

he says he will not sign the loyalty pledge.

So I don't think he'll be in, but in theory, he could be.

Let's go down a little bit less when it comes to name recognition because we still have more.

Perry Johnson.

Just an entrepreneur, right?

An entrepreneur running for president, running a lot of ads, has some money personally.

He's hit the donor threshold.

He has four qualifying polls.

It seems like he's qualified there.

And it seems like he will be on the stage because he will sign the loyalty.

So that's like 11.

And we've got

Larry Elder.

Now, Larry Elder, I want to talk about him in a second.

He's actually worthy of being on the debate stage.

He's very smart.

He's very conservative.

He's like for a long time.

He's a good debater.

He'll do a good job.

And is way more qualified than all these people at the end here I'm listing.

Wait till you see him on Charlemagne's show last week.

It's incredible.

Now, he only has two qualifying polls.

A lot of this is because he's not listed in a lot of the polls, but he's only hit two.

And he has reportedly 39,000 donors right now.

So I assume he's going to cross that threshold today.

But he hasn't technically qualified, but he could make the stage still.

And then how about Binkley?

Binkley.

Binkley.

Who Binkley?

Binkley.

Oh, the Binkley.

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Ryan Binkley.

Ryan Binkley.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He is an entrepreneur and pastor from Texas

who apparently is also running for president, has hit the 40,000 individual threshold, apparently, with donors.

That's impossible.

Come on.

Has only one qualifying poll, but he's so he'd need two more this week, but it's not out of the question he could get them.

I don't believe that Ryan Binkley has been at 1% in any poll ever.

Come on.

How dare you?

I've never.

That's what I'm going to say to you, Pat.

How dare you?

Pretty easily.

I dare pretty easily.

I can't believe you'd even say something like that.

I mean, perhaps perhaps he's a wonderful pastor.

No, he might be.

People love him.

I got to be honest.

But I've never heard.

Come on.

Nobody knows who he is.

You get down to this level.

I don't know if they're good candidates or not.

And like, look, there'd be benefit of a kiddie table for some of these people.

Let them come out.

Maybe one of them will shine.

You know, it's not crazy to think.

I mean, he got an early start, but like a person like Vivek Ramaswamy easily could have been in the kiddie table this year and probably would have shined.

He would have dominated the kiddie table.

He's done really well, and people would have said he's noticeable.

This has happened before.

But honestly, at this point, you've got one, two, three, four.

Politico says there's nine that have qualified.

It's too many.

Now, that includes, of course, Trump would be 10.

If you had five, that's plenty.

That's more than enough.

Yeah.

If you have, I mean, like, look, do five or six in the main table.

Who's your main table?

Ron DeSantis, the vaccine Ramaswamy, Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott,

Chris Christie.

I'll stretch it to Chris Christie.

Chris Christie has some good polling in New Hampshire.

Obviously, we all know he's not going to win the nomination.

He's stretching a long way to include Chris Christie.

Well, he's very wide.

I have to stretch it.

There's like pants.

Like a waistband, we're stretching far to Chris.

But I mean, so this is really elastic, like an amazing miracle elastic.

Yeah, it's like that athleisure wear.

You know what I mean?

It's really stretchy.

Yeah.

But like, in all seriousness, look.

He's only appealing to very moderate anti-Trump people, but they do exist in the party.

And you look at New Hampshire, he's hitting 7%, 8% in some of those polls.

That's not nothing.

I mean, I think he should probably be in the main debate.

I mean, not Asa Hutchinson, not Perry Johnson, not

even Bergham.

No, I mean, he shouldn't be in the main debate.

You can, you know, if you want to stretch to Bergham and go to seven, maybe you could do it.

I think it's a stretch.

He does have, you know, he has some results where he's three or four percent in some of these early states.

All right.

Like, maybe you stretch to that.

It's the first debate.

Maybe you have a wide net.

But Asa Hutchinson and Perry Johnson.

No.

And maybe

Ryan Binkley.

No.

And

I don't know.

You know, even Larry Elder, Larry Elder should be on a debate stage.

He's certainly better than Asa Hutchinson and Perry Johnson to be on a debate stage.

Is Carrot Top a Republican?

Because maybe he should be in this too.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

I mean, that's a guy that can dial down the middle really well.

And I don't know a lot of his policy platform, but I know dial down the middle.

Collect calls and long distance calls, I believe.

Yes.

It's exactly right.

For all the payphone calls you might be making these days.

If you're going to have Ryan Binkley, you got to have Carrot Top.

That's my policy position right now.

And if they don't, I'm not voting Republican this year.

Okay.

I'll find the Constitution Party or something.

Who's the Libertarian this year?

Do you know?

I don't believe they've had their

convention yet.

They pick at a convention.

They don't have a primary process, which is, I've always argued, I understand why they do it.

They have ideological reasons for this particular approach.

Also, it's expensive to do it.

But like, it gets nobody involved.

No one knows what's going on.

Like, it's just a bunch of people show up at an event and like they pick a candidate.

You're like, who?

Wait, what?

Like, you need to have people.

The reason why the primary process, which has tons of problems and it comes up with also really bad incentives and, you know, all sorts of real serious issues with it, but it does get people involved in the process and at least gets them attached to a candidate.

And it lets them know what they care about.

Like, you know, the general libertarian platform, but you don't know the differences between these people.

And, you know, it doesn't get sussed out until a bunch of people who are insiders in the party hash it out at a convention.

I just don't think it works to raise a

profile of someone you probably don't know.

What's really convenient, though, is that the Communist Party doesn't have to run a candidate since they already have Joe Biden.

They've already got that candidate.

It's working out.

They had him in 2020, endorsed him in 2020.

He was so close to everything they believe that they just said, yeah, you know what?

No, we're happy with him.

Yeah.

And I got to believe like hardline communists were like, look, he's just saying all these crazy liberal things.

He's not going to do them.

He's just like, he, you know, he's an old school Democrat.

He's a, you know, he's not going to do all these things for us.

And then he paid off.

What a great turn of events for them.

Yeah, it was really good.

It's really worked out for those communists.

Congratulations.

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That's crazy.

Isn't that wonderful?

That's cool news.

Worked out for somebody, anyway.

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I want to bring up this Larry Elder clip from, he's talking to Charlemagne, the radio host, about, I guess, race issues.

Now, Larry Elder is running for president.

He should be on the debate stage if freaking Doug Bergham's going to be on the debate stage.

Larry Elder should definitely be on the debate stage.

He is running for president.

And he was on the breakfast club talking about racial issues with Charlemagne.

They use the N-word many times.

Now, this is one of those situations where certain people, it depends on the color of your skin whether you're allowed to use certain words, Pat.

And

so these are two African Americans allowed to use the N-word.

We're going to bleep it out because we're not allowed to use it.

Just to be clear how this works, and I'm totally...

Or even play their use of it.

Yes, we can't even say, we can't play that.

But so that is what they're saying in the bleeps here.

Go ahead.

Joe Biden has lied for decades about his civil rights record, claiming that he desegregated movie theaters and restaurants in Wilmington, Delaware, when he didn't do any of that.

He lied and said that he tried to visit Nelson Mandela during apartheid South Africa.

He did not.

And he came in here and told you you you aren't even black unless you think a certain kind of way.

It seems to me that should have been a wake-up call for you, but it wasn't, apparently.

Let me know for the record.

I'm not a Democrat or Republican.

I didn't say you were.

I think both parties.

I don't know what you are.

I never even asked you about your party affiliation.

I'm just saying, but you are black.

Absolutely.

And to have a white guy come in here and tell you you have to think a certain kind of way, otherwise you, quote, ain't black.

Wow.

How should I have replied to him, you think?

What I just now said, how dare you insult me and tell me I think as a human being, let alone as a black person?

I don't tell you how to think, Joe Biden.

How dare you come in here and tell me how to

I should think.

I'm going to vote for Donald Trump if I want to vote for Donald Trump.

And if I want to vote for Donald Trump, it does not make me not black.

20% of black people, black men, as I said, voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

Are they not black now?

So only 80% of black people, black men walking around are really black.

20% are not because they voted for Donald Trump.

How insulting is that?

How condescending is that?

I mean, you're probably right, but I didn't take it in that way.

Well, I did.

As I said to him in that moment, you know, it's just about me wanting something for my people.

And I want to know what is he going to do for my people.

And not only for my people people now how are you going to atone for the things you've done to my people right that's it right and this is a guy uh Joe Biden who when he first got into the Senate hung out with segregationists talked about how well he got along with them talked about how he didn't want integration because of a jungle This guy has made all sorts of insulting things to black people and his policies right now are hurting black people.

Inflation hurts the people at the bottom more than anything else.

Letting a bunch of illegal aliens into the border are hurting black people more than anybody else, as I said earlier.

He

opposes school choice when he has his own kids in private school.

And we lost a year, almost two years of in-school education in California because of COVID that he supported.

I mean, this guy has done monstrous things to black people.

And then for him to come in here and tell you how you ought to think of the black person, it blew my mind.

But Asa Hutchinson is going to be on the stage and not him.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

Oh, that was a beatdown.

It's great.

Can you imagine if Charlemagne had said those things to Joe Biden?

What response could he have possibly had to that?

I'm sorry.

How dare you insult me that way?

All he could do was say, I'm sorry.

That might have changed the election.

Yeah.

Because there's nothing he could come back with.

Nope.

I mean, you got him at that point.

You've just destroyed him.

He saw it with Charlemagne.

I mean, again, I'm not exactly

a P1, as they call in radio terms, a main, a big listener to the Charlemagne show.

You're not a primary listener to the Charlemagne show?

But what I have seen of him is that

he's kind of famous for getting in these big debates.

Like, he'll fight with people.

He'll have these big arguments with people, take them on.

I mean, and he was demoted to a withering, you know,

fern there by Larry Elder.

Docile.

Yeah, you're probably right, but I didn't take it that way.

Okay.

That's great.

You sure should have.

Yeah.

But, I mean, if there's anybody in this lower polling end that should be on the debate stage, it's Larry Elder.

Definitely.

And for some reason, of course, the Republicans will keep him out.

That makes

too much sense.

Yeah.

This is exactly what they'll do.

Amazing.

It's a darn shame.

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Yeah.

So

found that 70%

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I guess that brings up the question,

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Seemingly?

How'd that happen?

On the topic of the 2020 election, 71% of GOP voters do not consider Joe Biden as the legitimate winner.

And of course, Democrats love to talk about that.

But what they don't talk about is the fact that

if you polled Democrats about whether or not Hillary legitimately lost in 2016, I bet it'd be a similar number.

Oh, it is.

This just came out.

It's almost half who say that they believe Russians went into voting machines, not even just like, okay, they generally manipulated the population by posting on Facebook or whatever they accuse them of.

No, going, went into voting machines.

It's something like 40% of Democratic voters believe that's how Donald Trump got elected initially.

Have you guys played the

Democrat version of what they're accusing Trump?

You know,

there's 12 minutes of Democrats calling elections illegitimate.

And then there's another one that came out that's double that.

It's 24 minutes.

There's so many Democrats that have said it so many times.

You've got, for just these quick clips, there's enough to fill 24 minutes of time with them denying elections.

It's incredible.

It is incredible.

The hypocrisy is incredible.

Now, of course, it's not an argument

to do it.

No.

I mean, imitating the Democrats is not exactly what I want from the Republican Party.

And I do worry that there's so much talk about how fake elections are all the time.

You wonder if people are motivated to vote at all.

I mean, I don't know.

I feel like we're, we're, you know, again,

this is, I know, sensitive stuff, and some people get really worked up about it much more than I do about primary time.

I mean,

primary season is the dumbest season.

Everyone reacts crazily over everything.

But, like, at the end of the day, you want your voters to show up.

If you believe elections are legitimate, if you don't believe they're legitimate, why do we bother with this stuff?

Why do we constantly talk about elections?

Why do we talk about going to the polls?

Why do we say go out and support your favorite candidate?

Why bother with it?

And I think there's

so much defeatism

that a lot of times I think we're talking our own voters out of voting.

And that doesn't work well.

No, I just don't, I don't know if people have realized that yet.

Yeah.

And it shows that we're pretty cynical about the way things are going right now.

When asked to describe the U.S.

political system, 64% called it dysfunctional.

58% said corrupt,

14, just 14% called it effective, 7% called it honest.

That's not good.

Pat,

I was watching the movie Tetris this weekend.

Uh-huh.

Have you watched this yet?

No, I have not.

You heard of it at all?

Yeah.

So it's about basically the

game, right?

The video game and getting the rights to the video game.

Yeah.

A video game that was invented in the Soviet Union.

So getting rights out of that environment, how do you do that?

They don't do capitalism.

How do you get rights, worldwide rights, to the game Tetris?

Well, it was all about the, it's all about the inner workings there.

And at times,

watching it is fascinating to bring you back to that era, you know, because it's one of those things where like you could go and they could pull you into, you know, you're thinking you're going into a meeting and you wind up getting the crap beaten out of you in the hallway and you go back to your hotel room and it's bugged.

And this is how business was back in Russia.

And I'm sure at some level still is, maybe not quite as bad as the Soviet Union days.

The reason I bring that up, though, is like

these polls at times can feel a little misleading, you know, because like, wait a minute, people think things are that bad in America.

But what we're talking about, I think, when we answer these polls is we're comparing it to our vision of what America should be.

Not to the Soviet Union.

We all know that life here is not the Soviet Union.

I know that we can go, we do business every day, Pat, as

straight out public opponents of the regime, if you will, in this analogy.

And we're able to do it.

And we're able to live lives and do commerce.

And yes, we have high-profile examples of people being debanked and being thrown off of social media and having their voices silenced.

And those are super important to talk about.

But generally speaking, most of us are able to

live our lives and live in a country that I still think is better than every other option there is.

And it's important to note, when we talk about polls like this, it's not comparing it to the Soviet Union or Kim Jong-un.

Even if we use some of those same terms sometimes, people will use terms that go, you know, that are, you know, that illustrate visions of, you know, regimes from 50 years ago.

But I think what people are talking about here is this feels closer to that than we should.

This is supposed to be a country where everything is free.

You never have to worry about that stuff.

And all of a sudden we have to.

Like, does it feel corrupt here?

Yeah, it feels corrupt here right now.

Feels like everybody's corrupt.

Everybody that touches politics seems to be corrupt, with a possible exception of Mike Lee, who just doesn't seem like he ever gets involved in anything, which is great.

That's why I love the guy.

But outside of that, it seems like every person we ever talk about is in some sort of corruption scandal, even if it's BS, even if they're the victims of the corruption.

And there's no, it's understandable that people feel this way.

You know, I mean, it feels like everybody's being targeted for things that they say.

You know, we were talking a little bit off the air about Tua, the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins,

who

is being beat up by the press and people online now because he said he liked the movie Sound of Freedom.

Yeah, listen to his quote.

He said, we had an off day yesterday coming here, went to dinner with the guys on Monday, and then we also got to watch a movie yesterday.

So it was cool.

It was like a movie fest yesterday.

The sound of freedom's good.

Yeah, Yeah.

Sound of freedom's definitely good.

You should watch that, especially you guys with kids.

Then he also said that they watched Oppenheimer as well, called that pretty good, but freaking long.

It is long.

It is.

I will say.

I liked it.

Yeah, I liked it.

I thought it was very good.

It was three hours, right?

Does it feel like three hours?

No.

Or are you entertained the whole time?

I was entertained by it.

I also really like the subject matter.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I'm fascinated by that.

And it's an incredible story.

And I thought it was pretty good.

Like, obviously, they're going to ask questions about whether, you know, the ethics of the nuclear bomb and its use, or the atomic bomb and its use.

However, I thought it was a,

they did a good job balancing it, and I thought it was good.

I thought it was very solid.

Did not feel like three hours, but it probably felt 220.

It didn't feel like it was 90 minutes.

I'll tell you that.

It was pretty long.

Yeah.

Well, you can't praise the sound of freedom, you know, without getting bludgeoned to death.

And he did.

Listen to this comment from some Dolphins fan.

I will absolutely admit that as a lifelong Dolphins fan and a big Tua fan, that Tua's comments were not only disappointing, but demoralizing and concerning.

Sound of Freedom has exploited religious people during its entire run.

It's horrible that he is just another brainwashed idiot.

How bizarre is it that these people hate this movie so much that anybody who likes it is the enemy now?

Why?

Are you trying to protect child sex trafficking?

Is it

something you're really into?

That is one thing.

You could be the only reason I can think that you would be bludgeoning the people who've liked the movie.

They're stopping your sex trafficking.

Yeah, maybe you want more children imported.

You're saying, hey, my supply supply is drying up and

I'm a little upset that they're drawing attention to this.

Therefore, I'm going to oppose it viscerally online.

Right.

Because I can be saying, like, I didn't like that movie.

It's being used by Republicans or something.

I don't even know if it is, really.

It's really just been more of a

general, it's really just generalized commentary on we shouldn't have sex slaves that are children.

Like, I don't think it's like a super controversial topic.

And they don't even, you know, I keep seeing that it's a religious movie.

In what way?

Is it?

I don't know.

They don't promote anybody's religion as far as I can tell.

Yeah, I mean, in that movie.

If you happen to be the,

if you listen to this program, it's very possible you were responsible for this movie in a small way and that the people, the actual operation that is featured in the movie was

funded by this audience.

Tim Ballard came on the show.

He talked about it.

Glenn talked about it, asked you to donate for this operation.

They got the money.

They did the operation.

The movie went into production years later.

In fact, it's been done for years.

It was done in 2017, 2018.

Glenn, I remember Glenn

talking to me.

He had seen it back then and was like, ah, it's really good.

I don't know when it's coming out.

Well, the answer basically, if it was up to Disney, was never.

Because they had, they wound up merging and getting control of this movie and they just put it on the shelf.

Eventually we were like, well, someone wants to pay us for this for some reason.

Let's just give it to them.

And Angel Studios put it out.

And it's been one of the biggest.

I mean,

it's a monumental success.

Yeah.

I don't know if we've done this.

It's paid $177 million.

Yeah.

And it cost $14 million to make.

I mean, think about it.

It's beating both Mission Impossible

and

the

Indiana Jones movie.

Yeah.

Now, remember, it came out, I think, right around the Indiana Jones.

It was right around July 4th.

and the Indiana Jones thing came out, and it beat it on its first day when it came out.

And everyone's like, oh my gosh.

And I remember thinking, like, that number one, that's incredible.

Number two, that's not sustainable.

Like, this movie is not going,

even though Indiana Jones sucks,

it's no way it's going to sustain that.

It is now defeated.

It's going to out-earn Indiana Jones.

Listen to the number.

These are the movies that are behind it right now.

This is incredible.

You've got the latest Indiana Jones sequel is $4 million behind it.

It's been run in 177, Indiana Jones 173.

After that, the latest Mission Impossible sequel, the latest Transformers sequel, the latest Rocky sequel, Creed 3.

Wow.

The latest Pixar movie.

The latest Fast and the Furious sequel.

Oh, that's amazing.

And then you've got stuff like Puss and Boots, The Last Witch, Wish, Scream Six, The Flash, and the only.

All Behind.

All Behind.

Sound of Freedom.

The next one ahead of it is, and it will pass this, John Wick chapter 4.

And it has a shot at passing Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantamania, which earned over $200 million.

It's probably the last one it has a chance at, but still, that's pretty impressive.

It could get into eighth place for the year.

This is a movie that cost nothing and was sitting on the shelf with no one to distribute it.

Five years.

Five years.

Yeah.

Crazy.

And it's a movie that you likely helped fund.

And it's like much more important, of course, is actually the operation that they're talking about in the movie.

But like, you know, these things come and go.

We were talking about this,

and of course, you were here for so much of this, Pat, that like this audience has done so many incredible things over the years.

Incredible things that no one would believe.

I mean, saving people in Afghanistan, like a radio audience, what?

This is a small example of it, but right now it's a high-profile one.

And that none of this happens.

None of this happens in real life.

And then the movie's not made if it's not for this audience coming together and being like, you know what?

I think maybe we're going to be on the anti-child trafficking thing.

I think we're going to take that side of it and we'll let the left oppose us.

We'll let the left come out and say, you know what?

We disagree.

We think you're wrong for opposing child sex trafficking.

Apparently, that's their stance.

Seems like it.

All right.

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Oh, one really interesting statistic from this CBS poll that we started talking about a few minutes ago

among Trump supporters.

Get this: 71%

feel like Trump tells them the truth.

71 percent.

That's a higher percentage than anything else

they were polled about.

Family and friends tell people the truth.

Only 63 percent thought family and friends are truthful.

So they trust Donald Trump

more than their family and friends.

Conservative media figures, 56 percent, and religious leaders 42 percent.

So almost 30 percent almost 30 percentage points more

for the trust of Donald Trump than religious leaders.

Wow.

That's really something.

That's fascinating.

That's really something.

Fascinating.

I don't think that's healthy for any person to get that level of trust, Donald Trump or anybody else.

You know, you shouldn't

trust one person like that.

And I will say, the one interesting part about those four groups is Trump is the only one that obviously has a self-interest, right?

Like, you know, you'd think your friends and family are telling you what they believe is true.

They're not trying to sell you on a candidacy.

Right.

Conservative media, like you could, you could argue, well, it's a business, and it is.

And that incentivizes people in the business to say things maybe in the most, maybe an outlandish way, right?

Like, but there's no, there's no incentive to lie.

You're certainly trying to tell what you believe is true, or no one's going to listen to your show, right?

You might try to be, maybe you're trying to say it in an exciting way or whatever, to draw on an audience, but like certainly there's no reason, there's no incentive to lie.

Your religious leaders, if your religious leaders have an incentive to lie, you really shouldn't bother wasting your Sundays.

You know, I got news for you.

If you trust Donald Trump more than your religious leaders, why are you going trust?

It's not a problem there.

The NFL is a problem.

You should spend your time doing something else because you're not getting much out of church if that's what you think about your church.

Again, like, I'm not even, this isn't an anti-Donald Trump argument.

It's an anti-anybody argument.

There should be no, I would be embarrassed to tell a pollster that I trusted a political candidate over my religious leaders.

Why?

Why would you bother being

a member of a religion that you trust that infrequently?

And I might be actively searching for new religious leaders.

New religious leaders?

That's the case.

New conservative shows.

And I would argue new friends.

If you trust Donald Trump or any politician more than you trust your own friends, you need new friends.

Why are you friends with people that you don't trust?

And again, I think that what's amazing.

It's whether they will tell you the truth, right?

Yeah.

And look, I obviously know that, you know, that's been a big thing with Trump where he's tried to say, like, I'm the guy that'll boil it down for you.

And a lot of people, that's, you know, that's their flavor and that's fine.

But like, it's just trusting anyone who wants

that sort of,

you know,

I mean, it's, it's asking a lot of dedication.

And, you know, I come back to this, Pat.

Like, everyone's in the media is talking about how the DeSantis

campaign has, you know, oh, they're having all these troubles.

I mean, there must have been nine stories in the New York Times yesterday about the DeSantis campaign, a guy who's 30 points behind in the polls.

Like, when has this ever happened?

They usually bash the guy who's in front.

And, of course, they do their share of bashing Donald Trump, too.

But man, they are attacking Ron DeSantis as if he's leading the race by 30 points.

But

is Ron DeSantis running a bad campaign?

Or is it just really hard to beat a guy?

who

people trust more than their family?

How do you beat a guy where it's like, oh, family, friends, screw them.

I trust this guy.

How are you going to beat him?

What's the path to that?

It's not easy, especially when he's very well-funded and very famous.

He has unlimited name recognition.

If also his voters think he's telling more truth than family members and God,

I don't know how you win.

Maybe it's not that the Santa's is doing bad.

Maybe this is a unique challenge for any candidate to go up against.

Yeah, I think that's the bottom line.

It's really, it's really tough for any of these candidates.

As far as the issues that are very important to them lower inflation number one reduce violent crime number two stop illegal immigration just slightly behind at number three cut federal spending stand up to china stop teaching woke ideas in school

seventh though i mean a lot of talk has been on spent on that topic and that's seventh yeah on this list lower taxes is the last one they list i want lower taxes you might see count me in that yeah me too in that category

you You might notice nowhere in that top 10 or so is the phrase climate change.

Hmm.

Where is

how much more money can we spend on Ukraine?

Is that in there?

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Um, you know, we've, we've been talking about this, uh, Tui Tag of

Tua Tag of Iloa situation.

I don't even attempt the last name.

I got to be honest with you.

I just say Tua.

It's hard.

I don't even go near the last name.

It could take me a month to pronounce that right.

I don't have any idea.

I know Tua's a big Christian, and he's pretty outspoken about that.

But I don't know what his politics are.

And he happened to mention that, you know, some of he and his teammates, the Dolphins, went out to a movie, a couple of movies.

One of them was Sound of Freedom.

The other was Oppenheimer.

And because he said something good about Sound of Freedom, he is being.

bludgeoned by, I guess, left-wing people.

I mean, I don't understand.

This is

been the case ever since the movie came out, right?

The second it came out, there was Rolling Stone articles, there were variety articles, everybody was bludgeoning the movie.

Why?

Why?

And

I guess the only thing that you can

sort of tie into the movie is Jim Caviesel's participation in it.

He stars as Tim Ballard, and he has said some things that

I guess align with QAnon.

They haven't followed all of his commentary on it, but that's always the accusation against him.

And, you know, obviously a central part of the argument of QAnon, if there is an argument from QAnon, is, you know, there's a lot of child sex trafficking out there.

Now, of course, we do know there is.

Whether they, you know, it does seem like there's some liberties taken with the factual

parts of this.

One of the things that they believed, I think if I remember correctly, is that weren't they behind the

Comet Pizza Pizzagate?

Pizzagate, like they were doing a child sex.

A lot of crossover there.

I don't know if they were the originators or anything.

In the basement.

Yeah.

No, they didn't have a bad movie.

There was no basement.

It was a legitimate business that wasn't happening.

Yeah.

Look,

but again, like...

I don't agree with any of the actors I see in movies.

I don't think I've ever agreed with an actor I've seen in a movie.

They all say crazy crap.

And I don't, I mean, I, generally speaking, don't care.

The whole point is that they're playing a character.

Now, I can understand that you don't, like, if it's, they're doing something so offensive to you.

Like, we've definitely had people over the years that have said, I won't go see a movie by, you know, with Alec Baldwin in it because of his politics.

Like, and you know, okay, fine.

I mean, you know, it seemed like a lot of those movies end in people being shot lately.

So it's been probably a good idea to stay away from those.

But for understandable reasons, at times, an actor's profile can get in the way of their acting.

If what they're known for is political speech, then you think of them as a politician or an activist or a commentator.

And therefore, you can't be lost in a story.

You only see them.

And that's really my main criticism of actors constantly speaking up because it's their role to melt into a story.

And you can't melt into a story when you're constantly running your mouth about the politics.

They have the right to do it, obviously, but it ruins the movies at times.

It does.

So, like, I don't know, though.

Has anyone ever, I mean, have you even heard the Caviesel comments about it?

I've heard it being referenced a bunch of times.

I've seen it in print a few times here and there.

But that's it.

People don't know Jim Caviezel for his QAnon beliefs, if he has QAnon beliefs.

I don't even know if he does.

But if he does,

I don't think that's what people associate with Jim Covezel.

Probably the thing they associate with him is the Jesus movie, right?

They think, okay, he played Jesus in that big big

in the passion, the big Mel Gibson thing, but from back in the day.

That's probably about it.

I don't think, you know, but like they're trying to make this into this political thing

because I guess they see this as an attack that's,

I don't understand it, honestly.

Like, there are, there are a lot of things that political disagreement explains.

Taking the opposite side on child sex trafficking shouldn't be one of them.

It's weird.

It is.

You feel weird when you're on the side of like, you know what?

I think we're just going to, we're going to, we're going to go, we're going to zig.

We're going to zag here where people are zigging.

People are all zigging into the

anti-child trafficking thing.

We're going to zag.

Like, that's a weird thing to do.

Very.

It is so very weird.

But that's where we are right now.

I mean, we are so divided in this country.

I guess we can't even get together on child sex trafficking right now, which is pretty amazing.

One thing we did kind of get together on, though, it's starting to

occur even to CNN

that Joe Biden is not telling the truth.

He's a liar.

He's a liar.

Yes.

And they actually, the words, Donald Trump was right were actually spoken on CNN.

by Jake Tapper.

Now, Jake Tapper, we used to praise him a lot for being objective.

He was very good in the, what was it, early Obama years?

Yeah.

He was the only reporter who would ever ask a difficult question about Barack Obama.

I mean, outside of Fox News.

But then he seemed to come down with

Trump derangement syndrome, not a fan of Trump at all.

And I think that kind of messed up his objectivity.

But they were having a little discussion

about what's going on right now.

And he actually broke down and said something pretty amazing.

And Kristen Glenn Kessler from the Washington Post had a fact check about about Joe Biden from earlier this month,

noting that Hunter Biden admitted in court in July that he was, in fact, paid substantial sums from Chinese companies.

Kessler wrote, Hunter Biden reported nearly $2.4 million in income in 2017 and $2.2 million in income in 2018, most of which came from Chinese or Ukrainian interests.

And this directly goes against what Joe Biden said in the debate in 2020 with Donald Trump.

Take a listen.

My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about, China.

What'd you make?

Not a vice president.

He made a fortune in Ukraine, in China, in Moscow, simply in various other places.

So it's from two different debates, but I mean, Trump was right.

I mean, he did make a fortune from China, and Joe Biden was wrong.

I don't know that he was lying about it.

He might not have been told by Hunter, but this blind spot is a problem.

It's a problem, one, because Republicans aren't going to let it go.

That's for certain It's a problem.

These problems shouldn't be coming into the legal system.

It's not as though this is something that's been settled in other jurisdictions and Republicans are just harping on it.

It is an ongoing thing in our courts.

It's not going anywhere.

This is a blind spot.

Does it concern you as a Democrat?

Well, I think dads have sometimes, and parents sometimes have blind spots about their kids.

Yeah, for sure.

And that is an understandable exception.

But nothing has tied the president

of Hunter Biden.

Stop it.

Stop saying that.

Okay, so they

should.

They had to get the lie in there somewhere.

They couldn't just do an actual real segment.

No, nothing to answer is tie.

Nothing is.

There's been no evidence of ties directly.

What are you talking about?

There's been tons of evidence.

Has there been irrefutable proof in a court of law yet?

No.

But

there is certainly evidence.

I give you the WhatsApp message, for example, where Hunter says he's sitting in the room with his dad when one of these deals is going down, and he's saying, you know, he and his dad are going to punish you.

Now, they are denying that's a real message.

We will see on that one, but that's certainly evidence brought to by a whistleblower that would point you in that direction.

The

text that they are not at all saying is not true from

two business associates of Hunter Biden's talking together, right?

Where they say, hey,

we're not supposed to say that Joe is involved in this because they're really sensitive about that.

So only say that stuff in person.

My God.

That is on record.

No one's opposing it.

No one's saying it's a fake message.

We can go down the rules.

And one of the things that's very interesting here is they keep saying, well, there's no direct payments to

Joe Biden.

Obviously, right?

No criminal enterprise worth its salt would make the payment go to the vice president of the United States in its front first name.

We do have

evidence that these communications were happening potentially

under a fake name, and that's being looked into right now.

Again, more evidence to that front, or at least accusations.

Again, these are coming from outside whistleblowers in the government, in Biden's government are saying these things.

But in addition to that, we have texts from Hunter Biden complaining that he has to give the money that he gets to his dad.

50% of the money.

I keep having to spend half the money that I make and give it to him.

Yep.

There are multiple text messages where he said it to other family members.

We have

corporations set up in the names of children in this family.

Why on earth would you do that?

Pat, do any of your kids have LLCs set up when they were eight years old?

You set any overseas companies in their name?

Does anyone you know, have anyone you've ever met done anything like that?

There's only one reason to do it, which is to launder money in this way.

And if all this stuff turns out to be true, or half of it turns out to be true, we will be able to,

at the end of the day, figure out that this is Joe Biden.

But at this point right now, what we do have is strong evidence indicating that it's likely.

Yeah.

That's not nothing.

To say that there's no evidence to connect this.

It's just a stupid statement.

And even if there was no direct payment to Joe Biden, which

it would be amazing if there were, right?

Like it would be insane if there were.

But like, you're an 80-year-old guy who's already independently wealthy.

What else are you going to do with your money, but give it to your kids and their family and your troubled son who's going through all these tough times the benefit you're getting from these interactions is helping hunter that's what you're trying to do if he really is this loving dad who's constantly trying to buy his kid out of trouble what do you think he's doing with this stuff it's

he's showing up not only on on speakerphone but also eating

With he's going physically to the dinners with business associates.

And somehow,

it's the first time ever that a one-hour dinner with a bunch of business associates occurred and no business was discussed.

The first time in human history.

Every other time business has been a topic, but this one time it wasn't.

It's so absurd to believe this.

They don't believe it.

Well, you can write out the dinner if you talk about business.

So you know they wanted to do that.

Yeah.

Well, that's true.

Right.

So there you go.

I mean, it is.

It's absurd.

You've got to be butt stupid to believe the Democrat Party line on this.

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I'm holding in my hand right now.

You can see if you're watching on Blaze TV,

what looks like a gigantic

brownie.

It does look like a gigantic gigantic brownie.

It is actually not.

It's a dinosaur vertebrae

that I got from the ICR Discovery Museum.

They wanted me to have this.

We're going to have one of the representatives on our Friday show.

We do these conspiracy shows once a month on the last Friday of the month.

Really?

And just talk about

controversial things.

Young Earth is the topic this coming Friday.

And so how do dinosaurs fit into that?

If the world is only, you know, you know, the theory that the Earth is 7,000 years old, right?

Rather than 4.5 billion.

So there's a little bit of a discrepancy there between science and the Christian belief that it's 7,000 years old.

And there's no one who takes the position it's in between.

It's either 7,000 or 30 billion.

It's either 4.5 billion.

7,000

or 4,5 billion.

There you go.

Take your pick.

The ICR is Institution for Creationism Research or something like that.

Something like that.

It's interesting.

It's a really nice museum, too.

And they've got cool dinosaurs in there and whatnot and so forth.

And delicious brownies, apparently.

And delicious.

Now, they're a bit hard.

You want to make sure that you're really sharp teeth when you bite into those.

So that's coming up Friday?

Yeah.

That's a big show.

Also, Wednesday is going to be an interesting day.

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Lots of good stuff coming up for the election as well.

Now, I meant to ask the other day because Joe Biden claimed that they've, you know, cured cancer, that that changed everything.

He ended cancer, I believe, was quote, we've ended cancer as we know it.

So I'm just wondering

if

the

website has been updated.

Let me just check here.

Has Joe Biden

cured cancer.com?

If you go there, you can always check if it's true or not.

Has he cured cancer.com?

The answer right now, as of right now.

Right now.

Right now, it's yes.

No.

No.

Oh, wow.

No.

He is not.

Cancer still exists.

It's an unpleasant surprise.

Doggone it.

That's it.

He said he did.

Huh, weird.

I don't understand why

what exactly fell apart there.

That was really weird.

We didn't get a chance to talk about that in any depth together, but like that was like, did someone tell him it was cured?

Like, I'm worried.

It's really weird.

Why did he say that?

Nobody knows.

Wild.

Nobody knows.

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