Best of the Program | Guest: Sen. Tommy Tuberville | 8/22/23

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Speaker 2 Wow, good show today. Wouldn't you say, good podcast? Yeah, good podcast.

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This one is, this one is,

Speaker 2 I don't even know how to describe it. We had two senators on today that I thought were fantastic

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Speaker 2 were just open and honest. And it was just like a real conversation, which doesn't happen with two politicians very often.
That's very true. Right? Very true.

Speaker 2 Stu and I also

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Speaker 2 we were talking about the lyrics and Stu thinks that they're really depressing. And I agree with him, but I can see how many people feel that.
Sure.

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Speaker 2 Oh my gosh,

Speaker 2 I am so nervous about this new COVID vaccine, this new COVID-19. Do we have a vaccine yet? I don't think so, Glenn.
It's on the way. It's on the way.
It's going to save the day. Wow.

Speaker 2 Now, it's coming, and it's coming fast and furious. In fact,

Speaker 2 it was being produced before they announced

Speaker 2 this new version of COVID-19, which is

Speaker 2 weird, but they've got it. And if you just go get, I think this is the ninth booster now, isn't it?

Speaker 2 You're going to be able to

Speaker 2 be able to. Now, this one has a scary name.
Okay, this is really scary. This is not COVID anymore.
It's not. No.

Speaker 2 This one is Eris.

Speaker 2 Eris. E-R-I-S.
Eris. Is that another? Hmm?

Speaker 2 Why is it Eris?

Speaker 2 Well, it's named

Speaker 2 after

Speaker 2 the god of

Speaker 2 strife

Speaker 2 and discord.

Speaker 2 It's a goddess. Strife and discord.
I'm glad you got the gender right. I didn't want to say that.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 I hate doing that to gods. I hate doing that to gods.

Speaker 2 But so I was looking into it today, and I thought, you know, somebody named it Eris.

Speaker 2 Why Eris? Why do we name this one Eris?

Speaker 2 Is the E

Speaker 2 after the

Speaker 2 O

Speaker 2 in the Greek alphabet? Do we know? No. No, it's not.
My understanding is no.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. Because I think they just go like COVID and then Omicron, Omicron.
Omicron. Omicron.
It's been

Speaker 2 so how long it's been since we've talked about this. Yeah.
You're on to like Transformer names. Yeah, I know.
I am. Like the Autobots and the Omicrons.
Well, they are. They are.
They are Transformers.

Speaker 2 And this one is transformed into something very, very, very, very deadly. Now, I started looking into the name of this Greek goddess, the

Speaker 2 one that causes strife,

Speaker 2 which in Greek mythology, strife is wholesome for men.

Speaker 2 She stirs the selfish,

Speaker 2 the shiftless

Speaker 2 to toil.

Speaker 2 Okay. So in other words, strife is good because

Speaker 2 it

Speaker 2 causes you to work, okay? Causes you to, you know, do, okay, well, all right, maybe, I guess. Why would, but, hmm.

Speaker 2 And then the discord she sows.

Speaker 2 She is,

Speaker 2 she's great. She has her feet on the ground and her head in the heavens.
So she knows what's best when she sows discord. Okay.

Speaker 2 Now, this is also a goddess. came from the 1950s, a couple of Americans who started the Discordian religion.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 this is from their, I guess, their religious book. One day, Maltu asked Eris if she really created all those terrible things.

Speaker 2 She told him that she always had liked the old Greeks, but they can't be trusted with historic matters.

Speaker 2 Suffice to say that Eris is not hateful or malicious, but she is mischievous. She does get, quote, a little bitchy at times.

Speaker 2 The story of Eris being snubbed snubbed and indirectly starting the Trojan War is recorded in blah, blah, blah, referred to as the original snub.

Speaker 2 She's the goddess of disorder and being.

Speaker 2 Discordian Eris is looked upon as the foil to the preoccupation of Western philosophy in attempting to find order in the chaos of reality.

Speaker 2 She also is the bringer

Speaker 2 of chaos.

Speaker 2 Let's see. Discordian Eris teaches us that only truth is chaos, and that order and disorder are simply temporary filters applied to the lenses we view the chaos through.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 the god of discord, aka

Speaker 2 chaos.

Speaker 2 Huh.

Speaker 2 Sorry, goddess.

Speaker 2 Her pronouns are her, she,

Speaker 2 me,

Speaker 2 it,

Speaker 2 God.

Speaker 2 Anyway, that's fascinating. I have to say, I saw the story on the new COVID variant and did not even consider clicking on it.
So I see, this is why we're a good team.

Speaker 2 You did the investigation on this one. I did not.
I just find it interesting. I'm going to do more investigation on this.

Speaker 2 I want to read some more on this, but I find it, I just find it fascinating because these names just don't come out. They're not spit out by a computer.
Right.

Speaker 2 Now, when they were doing the Greek alphabet, okay, they're just labeling it by, they're going in order, right? That's what it seemed like.

Speaker 2 And now, all of a sudden, they've just, I don't remember a story. I can't, maybe I just didn't click on it, but I don't remember a story about, hey, we're changing this to

Speaker 2 god names. We're just going to switch this up by mythology.
We're going into that now.

Speaker 2 Omicron or Crom or whatever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, yeah, it was in the Greek alphabet, right? Yeah, it's like, I don't know, one, I don't know,

Speaker 2 midway through or so. Okay, but is it a Greek god god or goddess? What is Omicron? Yeah.
Where did it come from? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know. It was just in the

Speaker 2 Omicron. I don't know.
I don't remember. Again,

Speaker 2 I don't remember naming the diseases after Greek gods. No,

Speaker 2 they were definitely going. I mean, 100%, I'm sure they were going through the Greek alphabet.
I mean, we remember alpha, beta, gamma,

Speaker 2 delta. Remember the delta variant? Yeah, and that's not a god.
That's just, these are letters. Yeah, that's epsilon would be E.
Now, I don't remember them getting past the end.

Speaker 2 I mean, after, you know, you've got, I don't remember the Omega variant. Do we have an Omega variant? Did they get to the end? Maybe I just wasn't.

Speaker 2 Again, it's possible I wasn't paying close enough attention to this. Maybe they had all these variants and I missed it.

Speaker 2 But my understanding was the process was they only used a Greek alphabet letter when it became a variant of concern, which was some level of like, okay, this is going to blow up.

Speaker 2 I remember when the Omicron thing started, it was in South Africa. And it was like, hey, this one looks like it's going to make some noise.

Speaker 2 And it went through that process, and all of a sudden, it was like, Okay, this one's going to be everywhere. And then it was.

Speaker 2 And they used Omicron. But I don't remember another

Speaker 2 since then, I don't remember another alphabet letter coming out and this being a big variant of concern. I don't remember any of that.
I don't either. Maybe it happened.
Maybe it happened.

Speaker 2 Maybe, you know, maybe we got to Zeus and we're like, okay, what are we going to do now? Got to start all over. I don't know.
Maybe. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 But I like, are you, maybe I'm in the minority here, but are you completely past reading news stories about COVID? Like, I'm totally past reading reading.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm only reading them because of their evil nature. You're just talking about, I know you're interested in why is this name this? And

Speaker 2 I'm just, I mean, they always leave breadcrumbs. They always leave breadcrumbs.
So when I saw Eris, I thought, what is what is Eris? Looked it up. Oh, Greek god of discourse, chaos,

Speaker 2 and what was the other one? Strife.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, I like that. I mean, I'm a good 18 months at least past caring about COVID in any way.

Speaker 2 Other than the fact that, like, I'm interested, like, hey, our response to it seemed like a little bit of a problem. Maybe we should make sure we don't do that again.

Speaker 2 That is the extent of my interest in COVID. Like, that is it.
I, I don't have, I don't care about any of the other stuff. Like, this is the flu.

Speaker 2 We'll all be wiped out, I'm sure, and we'll all die in a, in a fiery COVID

Speaker 2 crash of some sort. But I just, I am, I'm well beyond.
Like, I saw there was a story today that there is a small college somewhere that's

Speaker 2 in Atlanta that's re-implementing the masks. And it's like, can you imagine being on that staff? Like, what are you talking? What are you talking about? We're putting masks on.

Speaker 2 Now, maybe the college is so crazy that this is par for the course for them. But, like, you just think, wait, what year are we in? Did we get a flux capacitor? What's going on here? Like, I, I,

Speaker 2 even the flux capacitor seems outdated like the masks. Yes, it does.

Speaker 2 Like, we're, we're going back to 1988. What? Like, I just know.
We're all, we've, we, that was a thing, and it was, and now it's not a thing anymore.

Speaker 2 And like, look, individuals are going to have to deal with this in the way that they do.

Speaker 2 If you're a person who has risk and you see a new variant, like, maybe you should stay away from people for a little bit. But, like, that's on on you this is how it should have been from the beginning

Speaker 2 it's on you does anybody really actually think

Speaker 2 i mean is there anyone with the sound of my voice that's like oh i gotta get a mask i can't imagine i mean i would think if i was like let's say you had a an immune a real serious immune problem if i'm really you're seeing this pop up again you might think to yourself you know what i'm not going to that concert you know i'm going to stay i'm going to stay away i'm going to i'm not going to that indoor meeting where everyone's going to be talking that I was thinking about.

Speaker 2 I might consider that if I was really vulnerable. I only have like one 11th of a lung left from lung cancer.
Then

Speaker 2 seriously. Yeah.
Then I'm like, I'm not going. That's the type of level I'm talking about.
Like if you are really vulnerable and like I get COVID and I could absolutely die from it.

Speaker 2 And look, look, this is something that is real. People are still dying from the complications of this.
It does happen. It's just

Speaker 2 not as societal interest and individual interest are two different things.

Speaker 2 And when you talk about societal interest, you're talking about some large policy that covers millions and millions of people. That's different than a decision you make for yourself.

Speaker 2 So, Stu, we do know that hospitalizations are up 60%.

Speaker 2 Yeah, from what?

Speaker 2 60% from the lowest we've ever known.

Speaker 2 60%.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Should I bring in the

Speaker 2 relative versus absolute risk police squad here to say every time you hear a number like that, ask yourself, is this relative or absolute risk? It's an incredibly important question.

Speaker 2 And when it's relative risk, most of the time it means nothing. Hey, it went from 0.1 to 0.3.
That's a map. That's tripled.

Speaker 2 Tripled means what in this scenario? A very small risk has gotten slightly larger. That means nothing to most people.
And what is the other one?

Speaker 2 Absolute risk. If you have a 30% chance of dying, that's a real important thing to know.
If you have a 30% increase, an increase of what? That's a relative risk question.

Speaker 2 And when you have a relative risk question,

Speaker 2 it's usually a scare tactic by the media to look at some

Speaker 2 slight increase under a small subpopulation to terrify you on the news. All I know is the federal government has started purchasing COVID-19 equipment and hiring advisors on safety protocols.

Speaker 2 This is already happening. Department of Defense, millions of taxpayer funds being used to purchase COVID-19 equipment, such as test kits.

Speaker 2 Some of the contracts, which are traceable via the federal government spending database, scheduled to begin next month or October. And

Speaker 2 we're just spending money hand over fist because we know we're going to need this to fight the flu.

Speaker 2 Now, this is what this is. They say, oh, it's much more aggressive.
It's much more aggressive. It spreads so much easier.
Of course it does. That's what happens over time.

Speaker 2 It becomes less deadly and more virile. That's what happens.

Speaker 2 That's why we have the flu. The flu we have today, the one they change for every year

Speaker 2 is just like, is this, is a variant of the Spanish flu. We don't all freak out every year.
Right.

Speaker 2 And that's, look, I think that's where most people are. I think that the media is going to make their big deal of this.
Some people will lose their mind, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 But the bottom line is: like, COVID was a totally different scenario when none of us had any immunity to it.

Speaker 2 Every person in the country has some level of immunity to it, basically, at this point, right? So, once you get to that point, your body has an ability to fight back.

Speaker 2 It doesn't mean it always wins, but it didn't always win against the flu either. It turns into something that we can actually deal with.
Well,

Speaker 2 take it from a grandma killer, I guess, or or you

Speaker 2 or you can listen to the guy who's been on the Maui situation from day one.

Speaker 2 This is the best of the Glenbeck program. My father said, if we lie to one another, we don't have a family.
And so, you know, honesty is always the best policy.

Speaker 2 So let me just, let me come out from behind this throne of lies on which I sit and tell you that I haven't really been following the Senator Tommy Tuberville thing.

Speaker 2 I said in a meeting last week with my producers, I think this is good, right? I mean, I know that he's trying to stop

Speaker 2 the money going to the military for abortions, or is he just asking for clarification?

Speaker 2 I'm not sure, but I know the left is really pissed off at him, and that kind of makes me happy.

Speaker 2 And it looks like it is,

Speaker 2 like, I can't say it's successful because we don't have an ending to it yet, but this is the first time I've seen somebody do something like this and just not get a brick thrown at their head by everybody.

Speaker 2 And so I wanted Tommy to come on, and I apologize, but I'm watching other things

Speaker 2 and just explain where we are in this campaign. Senator, how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 Good morning, Glenn.

Speaker 3 And don't worry about that. There's a lot of important things going on.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 And not to say that this isn't. I just haven't, I just haven't.
It's constantly on my radar, but over off on a corner. And I keep hearing about it.

Speaker 2 And I think it's been going on for like a year, hasn't it?

Speaker 3 Well, it started about, it started in July last year.

Speaker 3 I heard they were going to change the military abortion policy, which was passed in 1985 by the Democrats and Joe Biden, that you can only do abortion in the military

Speaker 3 because of the three exceptions. And I heard they were going to change that after Roe Wade.
They want to put everybody that's a federal employee on some kind of abortion policy. And

Speaker 3 so it took me about four months, Glenn, to get a briefing.

Speaker 3 I got a briefing, and then I told Secretary Austin, no, no, no, no, we're not going to charge the American taxpayers for travel for abortion for military. That's not going to happen if you do that.

Speaker 3 I'm going to hold your generals and admirals. Well, two months later, in February of this year, so I guess it's been about seven months.

Speaker 3 I put a hold, and that's the only power, Glenn, as a senator. If you're in the minority, that's really the only power that you have.
And so I put a hold on. And

Speaker 3 they've came after me, but I'm not changing my mind. I mean, I'm right.
I'm right.

Speaker 2 So, you know, what's crazy here is that, you know, we have, I think we have 44

Speaker 2 four-star generals right now. In World War II, we had seven.

Speaker 2 Seven. Exactly.
I mean, what the hell? Who's printing up four-star generals? Why do we need all of these? I mean, I have no problem with something like this. And

Speaker 2 it's clear that nobody doing anything knows this is a losing battle for their side.

Speaker 2 Nobody's going to say, oh, you know what? We need to promote those guys. I have no problem with promotions, but not if you're out of control, completely out of control.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for your audience, here's what happens. They bring the general admirals

Speaker 3 to the floor.

Speaker 3 Basically, not to the floor. We do it off the floor.

Speaker 3 We confirm three or four hundred at a time. And instead of voting on them individually, now to me, generals and admirals are very important.

Speaker 3 Obviously, we need to understand whether they can do the job or not do the job. As you said, we had seven back in World War II, now 44 and rising.
The Pentagon is bulging at the seams.

Speaker 3 They're all driving around in black SUVs. And you got to remember this too, Glenn.

Speaker 3 A general, a four-star, basically has a budget and people working around him of $500,000, $600 million a year.

Speaker 2 Oh my God. A year.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 the Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman, for instance, Mark Milleyhood is right now, his budget is something like 300 million and has 4,600 employees.

Speaker 3 What the heck do we need that many people working working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

Speaker 3 It makes no sense. We need warfighters.
You know, listen, I'm a military person, and I hate them doing this. My dad died on active duty.
He was career military. I was a military brat.

Speaker 3 You know, we traveled and

Speaker 3 there's nothing more important, Glenn, in our country than a great military. But let me tell you something.
We are headed south. A whole country is headed south.

Speaker 3 But if we lose our military and our spot in world national security, it's going to be over for us.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 I think we're headed that direction with what we're doing in

Speaker 2 Ukraine

Speaker 2 with these people in the Pentagon. I have, I mean, I'm sure you saw what Mark Milley said yesterday.
Okay, so we had a handful of drag queen shows. That doesn't mean we went woke.

Speaker 2 I have a problem with the first part of that sentence. Okay, we had a handful of drag queen shows.
What the heck? I mean,

Speaker 2 what are they concentrating on?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, Glenn, I'll tell you, I've taken, I've had the opportunity now to look at all the generals and admirals.
And we started in February with one, then it went to 10, then 50, then 75.

Speaker 3 We're up to 300 now, and it'll probably be closer to 600 at the end of the year. Now, again, telling the people out there listening,

Speaker 3 I cannot hold these people up. They can bring them to the floor one at a time and confirm them.
I can't do that, but I can hold all of them being said, okay, we're just going to pass you on by.

Speaker 3 That's what I'm doing. So, Schumer, he doesn't want to bring it to the floor because he will admit guilt of bringing them one at a time.
But

Speaker 3 the thing about all this is just absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 After looking at each one of these generals and admirals, how woke a lot of these people are. I mean, the things that they teach and that they want to teach.
I mean,

Speaker 3 as I tell General Austin and Millie in hearings, face to face,

Speaker 3 out in public, we don't need to educate our young men and women in the military in terms of anything but a killing machine because people have to fear us, and they don't fear us right now because all we're doing is we're teaching DEI, this woke-ism, drag queens.

Speaker 3 Now, a lot of these

Speaker 3 so-called young men or women are getting in the military so they can have their transition paid for by the taxpayers. What in the hell are we doing?

Speaker 2 So, what is your hope that, I mean, if we're passing them one by one, are you hoping that the Americans will eventually do what I did and go, what is this really all about? What are we doing here?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, I want to be brought to the floor where all my colleagues, not just on the left, but also on the right, look at this person that we're confirming, going, wait a minute,

Speaker 3 look at the books that this person has

Speaker 3 written or look at the things that they've taught

Speaker 3 as a one-star or a two-star.

Speaker 3 Again, we've got to get back to having more people that the people that actually

Speaker 3 do the war fighting are the are the second lieutenants the captains the sergeants uh the people that train these people it's not the generals and the admirals these are politicians that's all they are and i i was hoping when i got to dc three years ago that i wouldn't recognize that uh that that there are actually our military was was bipartisan it wasn't politics it was all about hey protecting the united states and its allies

Speaker 3 We're far from that. I mean, this is going, we're going overboard.
And this Ukraine war has just brought more out. I haven't voted for a dime for Ukraine.
Now, listen, I hope they win.

Speaker 3 I was in Ukraine three months before this started, and Zelensky looked me in the eye and says, the only way we can stop this is if y'all give us weapons and put on and let and let Putin see what, that you're going to back us.

Speaker 3 Well, of course, we didn't do that. Joe Biden was asleep at the wheel.
He had a two-minute conversation with Putin.

Speaker 3 And look how many hundreds of thousands of people that Joe Biden has gotten killed because of this. And

Speaker 3 I hate it for the Ukrainian people. And I've said this, and I've taken a lot of flack for it.
It's kind of like a junior high playing against a college football team. They can't win.

Speaker 3 I don't care what we give them unless we go over there and help them fight.

Speaker 3 They can't win. And we're not going to do that on my watch, hopefully.

Speaker 3 I don't know whether I could stop it or not, but I'll be outspoken about it.

Speaker 2 Well, I will tell you this. I know there's a ton of people people that feel like I do.

Speaker 2 You draft my son. My son, I'm personally moving him, well, not to Canada.
I don't know, someplace

Speaker 2 away from the reach of the military. I will not support, I will not let my family, my children support a war in Ukraine with Russia.

Speaker 2 We have no reason to be there. We have funneled so much money, and

Speaker 2 I believe probably at least 50% of that has gone into dark money. It's just gone.

Speaker 2 No thanks. Not going to do it.
Not going to do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 3 what your audience ought to understand, too, is, you know, if when there's a national disaster, you know the next thing is going to happen is the national disaster is going to get very little money.

Speaker 3 A lot of money is going to go to Ukraine. The problem that people don't understand is we don't have anything to sell them right now.
We don't have anything to give them because we're out.

Speaker 3 Even Joe Biden said we're out of munitions. Well, no kidding.
I mean, they've been shooting them

Speaker 3 as fast as they possibly can because they don't have the people. They don't have the people that Russia's got.

Speaker 3 And so the money that we're sending now is going up to prop up their government, prop up their pension system,

Speaker 3 going in to keep

Speaker 3 the country going because they don't have an economy right now.

Speaker 3 They are the 51st state of the United States, and we're sending all that money there.

Speaker 3 And when we're imploding within our borders, the things that are going on in our country, which is in your and my lifetime, Glenn, it's the worst you and I have ever seen, and it's getting worse.

Speaker 2 Are you hopeful?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm hopeful because I believe in this country. You and I had an opportunity to grow up in something that was very special after World War II, the growth and the building of our country.

Speaker 3 But, you know, since the 90s and Clinton's NAFTA and all that, we've sent all of our manufacturing out. I've seen our education, and I talked to you before about our education systems turned into

Speaker 3 not an educational institution, it's turned into a social institution.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's indoctrination.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. And it's just sad to see it go this direction.

Speaker 3 Do we have to go to the bottom before we find out that

Speaker 3 the direction that we're heading? I hope not.

Speaker 3 I just think that and would hope and pray that there would be enough good people in this country to step up and say, even on on the left side, and I know there's people on the left, and I've talked to them about it, senators, all the time, you can't believe this.

Speaker 3 You can't believe what we're doing at the borders right. You can't do that.
I mean, and again, it all goes back to politics. My God, stand up for your country.

Speaker 3 This is not about Republican, Democrat anymore. This is about Americans.
versus anti-Americans. They want to change this country into something that's not.

Speaker 3 You can't, Glenn, you can't run a world, not just our country, a world without fossil fuels. It is impossible.

Speaker 3 But these clowns are trying to convince people about this climate hoax that we've got to do this, but we're going to implode.

Speaker 3 No, we're going to implode because we're not going to have the facilities or the things to do to keep up this country and keep this world going.

Speaker 2 It has been good to talk to you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 I appreciate all that you're doing and let us know how we can help.

Speaker 3 All right, Glenn.

Speaker 2 Stay tuned. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Senator Tommy Tuberville from Alabama.

Speaker 2 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 2 Tomorrow night,

Speaker 2 the first Republican debate of the 2024 presidential primary season, Blaze TV is going to give you the coverage that you need. We're going to start

Speaker 2 with Sarah Gonzalez. Stu, Dave Landau, Steve Dace.
I'll be there as well tomorrow evening to provide live coverage.

Speaker 2 We're doing a pre-show, so you can get that right before the debate, and then post-debate analysis.

Speaker 2 Of course, now Fox won't let anybody take any sound of it or anything, so we're just going to be online.

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Speaker 2 So we've been talking about this song and

Speaker 2 what it means. And I think Stu and I are at the same place that there are a lot of people that are feeling this way and they are blaming the government for things.

Speaker 2 But the government can make you neither happy nor sad.

Speaker 2 You know, I hate to, you know, man search for meaning, but

Speaker 2 That is true. And as a recovering alcoholic, I know it to be true.

Speaker 2 You think that it's all of these other problems that are getting in your way, and so you drink more, and then it's these other problems, and you drink more, and it's none of those things.

Speaker 2 It's that you have a what some would describe as a god-shaped hole in you, and more and more people have this hole in them that they try to fill with fame, or fortune, or you know, likes,

Speaker 2 follows, all of this crap that our kids,

Speaker 2 the world is is empty and meaningless because

Speaker 2 we don't have something bigger than ourselves. That's why the left is using climate change and everything else.

Speaker 2 But you'll see all these people who have grown out of that climate change era of their life, they're all finding it empty in the end because it is.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 You have to have something bigger than yourself.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 everything we do now is about politics, fame, or fortune. And that's not the country.
That's us.

Speaker 2 That's not the politicians. That's us.
The politicians aren't over turning my phone on and pressing the Instagram or TikTok app in my hand.

Speaker 2 We do.

Speaker 2 We do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it just feels like we're kind of on a search for something.

Speaker 2 Man's search for meaning. Yeah, I mean, we really are.

Speaker 2 That's really happening. I have a friend I've been talking to lately.
He's said, you know, I think people are searching for purpose. Yeah.
And it's true. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't think we don't know who to trust and where to find that larger meaning these days. Did you see that poll out from

Speaker 2 who did it about CBS, I think. CBS? Yeah.
This is, we were talking about this earlier

Speaker 2 and Stu asked me a question on this. So let's just play this back here on what the poll said.
The poll was,

Speaker 2 who do you trust to tell you the truth? Now think about that. Who do you trust to tell the truth? Yeah.
Now, is this ⁇ were these answers prompted?

Speaker 2 That's a good question. I didn't try.

Speaker 2 I think it was. I think there were options.
A list. Yeah, options.
So who do you trust? And

Speaker 2 they gave a few options. And this was of Trump voters.

Speaker 2 And they asked, who do you trust? And they said number one was Donald Trump, 71%.

Speaker 2 The other options, though, weren't like Vivek Ramaswamy. The other options were friends and family, which was second at 63%.

Speaker 2 Except if you think of your friends and family, at least I do, I think of all my friends and family, ones that I

Speaker 2 don't believe have it down. They're not paying attention.
Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Then you have conservative media figures at 56%

Speaker 2 and religious leaders at 42%.

Speaker 2 Wow. And like, take, everyone gets so focused, and the media did this constantly.
Oh, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Take Trump out of this for a second.
Put any politician in that position.

Speaker 2 Like, it's

Speaker 2 upside down if the person that you think is going to tell you the truth is a politician, right? Or any person in that position.

Speaker 2 If it's, you know, religious leaders, for example,

Speaker 2 you should be near the top of that list. Or why are you going? Why are you bothering blowing up your Sundays and not watching more NFL football if you don't trust your own religious leaders? Right?

Speaker 2 There's no reason to go to church. Maybe you should find a different church.
Friends, you could choose them. Maybe find ones that you actually like and trust.

Speaker 2 Because, you know, look, any politician should not be in the role of ultimate trust. And that's certainly the reverse of where we were as a country at one point.

Speaker 2 Okay, he has earned his trust in a very strange way, in a way I've never seen anybody earn it before.

Speaker 2 He doesn't always tell the truth, and he knows that. I mean, it's not like he's, he's not,

Speaker 2 he is a storyteller, and he, it's like when people said, don't take him literally, take him seriously.

Speaker 2 So when he said, let's say,

Speaker 2 for instance, that you'll never convince me he did not believe he lost that election.

Speaker 2 He believes he won. He won.
No way, shape, or form at no time has that even crossed his mind that he lost that or lost it fair and square.

Speaker 2 So when he was on the phone call, you can look at it many different ways. He's on the phone call in Georgia and he's like, look, we have 10,000 here.

Speaker 2 We have 25,000 votes that I think are missing here. We have 50,000.

Speaker 2 All you have to do is find 11 and it changes everything. And that is the context of the call.
Correct.

Speaker 2 He's not saying go make up 11,000. He's saying all you have, you don't have to do all 150,000 or whatever number he's presenting.
And I don't think he knew

Speaker 2 the truth that there were 150.

Speaker 2 It's what he had been informed on and suspected, et cetera, et cetera. And so he was throwing that out.
You have to take him for what is he saying? He's saying the votes are not all in.

Speaker 2 All of those votes that should have been counted or all of those votes that shouldn't have been counted, there's a problem here.

Speaker 2 So go find what the truth is.

Speaker 2 That's what he's saying. And I think, like, there's a million examples of this, but like,

Speaker 2 he obviously isn't always telling the truth. And you can know that because he says the exact opposite things for a very specific reason.

Speaker 2 For example, I'm going to annihilate North Korea and Kim Jong-un.

Speaker 2 Missiles are about to fire. And then a week later, Kim Jong-un's a great friend.
We know those two things aren't true at the same time. But they're not lies.
They're negotiating tactics.

Speaker 2 It's a negotiation tactic. Like he's intentionally saying what he thinks will bring him to the next best

Speaker 2 option down the road.

Speaker 2 Whatever he thinks will advance his particular situation he's thinking at that moment because he's a negotiator, right? He talks about this in his book. Here's how he gained his credibility.

Speaker 2 And I've never seen anybody gain it this way before. He gained it because he did some really big things when he was president, really big that I'm not sure any other Republican would have done.

Speaker 2 Jerusalem comes up to the top of the mind. He did a lot of those things.
So he gained credibility on like, hey, you did that. You did that.

Speaker 2 Now, where's the rest of this when you would say, how many people, what is it, 70%? 71%. 71%.
Wow, that's high. But they're Trump supporters.
Yep. Who do you trust?

Speaker 2 The reason why I think people trust him is because he's earned it by his enemies.

Speaker 2 They feel as though he is. The right people hate him.
The right people hate him. Not just hate him.
They've done everything they can to destroy him.

Speaker 2 There's only two reasons you would keep fighting at this point.

Speaker 2 Either you believe it in your soul

Speaker 2 or you just can't let go. And I think both of those are true.
Both of those are true with Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 You don't have anything to gain here. What do you have to gain? Yeah, because he probably isn't charged with all these crimes if he's not running.
I mean,

Speaker 2 if he would have said, I'm out, I'm not going to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 They wouldn't have bothered. I mean, they went those two years, almost giving him an option.
Hey, don't run, and maybe this won't happen. So here's the important thing.

Speaker 2 I have always said that I really just didn't believe. I thought that putting Donald Trump in jail is the icing on the cake.

Speaker 2 They need to bring Donald Trump down to Biden's corruption level.

Speaker 2 So when you have Biden being charged with all these things and you have his main competitor not charged with anything, it's pretty easy. Pretty easy to see good guy, bad guy.

Speaker 2 But if they flood the system with, this guy's a criminal, needs to go to jail, now you've brought Donald Trump or the opposing guy down to the same level where they're leveling the same charges back and forth that's what they're doing and i've never really thought i thought it was just icing on the cake if he actually does go to jail until stu we were talking about this poll And you said what?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was talking about how, okay, 71% of people, and they trust him more than their friends and family and their religious leaders. How do you beat a guy like that?

Speaker 2 Like, you can beat up on DeSantis' campaign and say it hasn't been perfect, but like, is someone like that beatable at all? No. Right? Really difficult to beat someone who's trusted like that.

Speaker 2 And then I said, and what happens to America when they put that guy who's trusted at that level in prison?

Speaker 2 And that's the question

Speaker 2 that made me change my mind.

Speaker 2 I know exactly what happens when when you put a guy like that in prison. You have chaos

Speaker 2 and chaos is all they care about. Simply chaos.
Let's end this podcast where we started this podcast. I told you that there's new COVID,

Speaker 2 new COVID vaccines on the way. They're talking about maybe we should lock down schools.
There's a school in Atlanta that's starting to do it. Yada, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 2 And I've heard all of this, and you've heard all of this. But the one thing I hadn't heard was the explanation of the name of this particular

Speaker 2 line of COVID. Was it Eris?

Speaker 2 Which is

Speaker 2 from mythology, the

Speaker 2 god of goddess. So it is Eris,

Speaker 2 the goddess

Speaker 2 of,

Speaker 2 hang on just a second, I wrote it down, strife,

Speaker 2 discord,

Speaker 2 and chaos.

Speaker 2 What did I say 20 years ago? When we enter these times, it's always going to be about chaos. Chaos will be the operative word.
Everything will be about chaos. They name this COVID,

Speaker 2 this COVID strain after the God of chaos?

Speaker 2 They want to put him in jail? You damn right they do. Why? Because it will cause chaos.

Speaker 2 The author of all lies and author of all chaos. We know who that is.

Speaker 2 Take your stuff and get as far away from chaos as you possibly can.

Speaker 2 Then stand

Speaker 2 because it will grow and it will sweep everywhere unless we stand and stand together.

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