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So, Stu,
it's it's getting a little old, all of the indictments.
I mean, I know it's like, okay, come on, give me something new.
It's like, okay, you know, fast and the furious.
And okay, all right, the sequel.
Okay, Tokyo Drift seems like you're pushing it a little bit.
And now, where are we?
Yeah.
We're at like
Fast X, I think, just came out.
So we're at 10 now.
And it feels like we're going to get there eventually.
Something like 91 total charges now
against the president.
And
I mean, I'm torn because it's hard for me to imagine they're going to put a president of the United States in prison.
Oh, they will.
But on the other hand, it seems really hard to imagine the government goes oh for 91 here.
Yeah.
It seems really tough to imagine they don't get anything out of this.
Right.
So I mean, I'm throwing spaghetti at the board.
Yes.
I mean, it's
this is so disgusting and despicable.
I mean, this is truly all about two things.
One,
I don't think it's about stopping Donald Trump from being president.
Now, if they can put him in jail, they will,
but he can still run from jail.
Okay.
So I don't think it's about that.
I think that's gravy to them.
That's like, ah, and he's in jail.
This is about deflecting all of the trouble of Hunter and Joe Biden.
This is all about teaching the rest of us a lesson.
If we can do this to this guy, you think you can survive us?
It's a lesson.
But it is also something, and this is.
You know how I've always said
they self-diagnose?
Whatever they say we're doing, they're doing.
This is, I mean, they did this with the impeachment.
They impeached Donald Trump because they said he was inappropriate in Ukraine with the leader of Ukraine.
Okay.
Seems like ancient history.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hard to believe that that's what this comes back to.
It does.
It comes back to them covering their track.
Whatever they said Donald Trump was doing, they were doing.
So,
you know, when they said, well, he's, you know, he's obstructing justice and he's using the Justice Department, you know, against his enemies,
that's what it looks like to us.
No, that's what they do.
Oh, I mean, another example of this is, remember their reaction?
to lock her up, lock her up, lock her up chance at rallies?
Yes.
This is a banana republic.
We don't do this.
We don't put our political enemies behind bars this is america do you remember yes
because they were chanting it at a rally
they got 91 charges against this guy where did that go well he's different
he's different that is what they believe i mean they really truly believe that yeah um
now
listen to the listen to the indictment from yesterday defendant donald j trump lost the united states presidential election held on November 3rd, 2020.
One of the states he lost was Georgia.
Trump and the other defendants charged in this indictment refused to accept that Trump lost.
That's what they do.
I mean,
they protest every presidential election.
Every single time they lose, they say it was stolen.
And do they really believe it?
Because this is the charge.
To make this charge stick, you have to prove that he didn't actually believe that.
So now here's my...
Or at least he was negligent.
He should have understood is the other standard they're going to go for here.
You know,
if I say, look, my lawyer told me I could murder 12 people in the park.
That's not a defense, right?
You need to have.
So they have to prove it's so egregious that he should have known, which is again, a high standard.
Okay.
Again,
that shows me, because they always self-diagnose, that they've never believed any of these things that they've said.
They are just corrupting
the system to corrupt it.
And we've known that.
But to me, this is proof because they always
do
what they accuse the other side of doing.
So
they knew in 2000, they knew in 2004, they knew in 2012, right, or 16.
They knew.
They knew.
We didn't win those.
Oh, yeah.
Well, of course they knew it.
I mean, 2000 was close, you know, so they, I think some of them do believe they won 2000.
Yeah, but no, then you had all the recounts and the ratio.
The New York Times did a recount.
Yeah, they lost.
They lost all these.
But they kept coming out and saying it anyway.
Correct.
Correct.
So they refused to accept that Trump lost, and they knowingly and willfully joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.
That conspiracy contained a common plan and purpose to commit two or more acts of racketeering.
Now, is there anyone that you know of that's in the news that should be charged with racketeering?
No, no, nobody comes to to me.
I thought that was rhetorical.
No, no,
I'm just saying.
Now, if you look at this and
then ask yourself, wait a minute, I remember
somebody
actually putting together a plan
to set the country on fire
should they lose.
And then they would challenge that in the courts.
They would have their people out on the streets,
you know,
no peace, no justice, no peace,
saying that the election was stolen.
And then they would get the slate of electors to change,
which is exactly what they're accusing him of doing.
They even ran ads saying you should do this.
Yeah, they weren't changing the people.
They were trying to get the electors to change their votes, right, with those ads, which is a little bit different, but still, you know,
they had no qualms about changing the outcome of democracy and all this crap that they say now.
They wanted their outcome, and they tried to get their outcome with every single trick they could think of to accomplish it.
It is really incredible.
So,
you know, I don't know.
I mean, I can't imagine, as Stu said, that out of, what, 90?
91 charges.
91 charges that
they're not going to hit something.
0 for 91 would be hard to pull off.
It's just, it just, I mean, the odds.
Because I think there's a, there's a tension between people who are Trump supporters, right?
Which is like, Trump's a fighter.
He's a survivor.
He's going to beat this.
They're not going to put him in prison.
Of course, he's going to win because they see him as a winner, right?
And on the other side of this is this, you know, the same is instinct in the same people saying, saying, this is the deep state.
They're coming after him with everything they got.
They will never relent until he's put behind bars or punished or whatever.
One of those is going to fail here, right?
Either he is put in prison and
he's not invincible or
the deep state doesn't have the power we've been assigning to it this whole time.
Because they've got 91 charges right now.
If they want to put him in prison and the deep state is what we say it is, they're going to put him in prison.
It's on the table for them.
They've done the legwork.
All bets are off on
anybody, on anybody, if they put him in prison.
They put him in prison.
I can't even imagine that.
But I mean, like, what
because I have that same feeling of like,
I can't even imagine.
It's not possible.
This is the United States of America.
That's it.
But it is.
But it is.
And also, there's 91 charges.
Now, maybe there's a chance, right, that they get him on something that's smaller that doesn't result in prison time, right?
I think that's a legitimate possibility.
I think, and I know he says he's not going to do this.
I think it's a legitimate policy.
He winds up pleading out of some of this and just saying, yeah, whatever, guilty.
And then goes on the campaign trail and says, I wasn't guilty.
I just obviously said that, his version of that statement.
Look, I wanted to get this behind us.
I don't think it's out of the question that that is the end of this.
He just
stays out of prison by pleading to something.
So,
there is a new
pollout that shows 12% of the U.S.
population, that's 30 million people,
12% believe that violence is warranted to prevent Trump from assuming the presidency.
So, 30 million people in America believe violence is okay to stop him from being the president again.
Violence.
That's almost double the number of people who believe that violence is warranted
to make sure that Trump does become president.
So you have 12 and about 5.8%.
The left over double the amount of violence or violent people that believe that.
And yet we're the ones made into the violent ones.
We're the ones made look like we're angry.
No,
you have twice the number of people
that want to go into violence.
That's how crazy your side is.
And I will tell you, the 5%
that want violence on the streets, they're just as crazy as the left.
There's no place for violence in the streets.
No, none, none.
And anybody on the right who thinks that's going to work out well for you, you will be the death of the Republic.
You'll be the death of the Republic, period.
But it's interesting to me that the ones who are preaching peace,
30 million of those who despise Donald Trump, 30 million think violence
is justified to make sure he never becomes president again.
It's so, so disturbing.
And, Glenn, I don't know.
Going back to the way the founders drew this all up back in the day, it seems to me they had several different ways to deal with a situation like this, right?
The first one was impeachment, right?
If you believe your president has done something terrible
and needs to be punished, that's the process.
They tried that in a haphazard, pathetic way with no evidence, and they rushed it through because they thought the emotion would help them, just like they try to push through a gun bill after a mass shooting, right?
That's what they tried to do.
It didn't work.
And this is throw the spaghetti against the wall, attempt number 46 to see if they can get something on him.
The other thing that the founders put together, which is pretty helpful, was elections,
Right?
Like, we have opportunities to make these decisions.
If you believe Donald Trump did something, you know, really wrong here, you can make a decision with your vote, and the American people can hold him responsible for that by not making him president of the United States again.
Here's the difference.
The founders
believed in the people.
Yeah.
Okay.
They believe the America, this is a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
The American people will from time to time get it wrong, but eventually they'll figure it out and correct the mistake yep they don't believe in the people no otherwise why would they lock you up why would they say you're a grandma killer if you don't agree with them they they don't believe in you yeah and like i i
the precedent this sets like i believe you know
we go through this in more detail, but like, is there any chance, Glenn, a local prosecutor in 2025, if Joe Biden loses, is there any chance that a local prosecutor doesn't indict Joe Biden?
Somebody in a red state is going to come together and say, wait a minute, there's this charge and this charge and this charge passed through our state.
Yeah, of course they're going to do it.
No, they won't.
The right won't do it.
I don't know.
They should be doing it right now with Hunter Biden.
I mean, I can't believe that we're not charging for racketeering.
I mean, look at what's going to be a big story, though.
Hunter is a,
there's no argument.
He's, you know, he is a, he is legitimately a private citizen, right?
And should be charged and should be, these things should be handled.
There's no impeachment process
for Hunter Biden.
There is for Joe.
And that's what the, that's what the founders thought of when they were like, how do we deal with this?
And they said impeachment.
There's also elections.
Those two things are really powerful tools to hold somebody responsible.
But like, we're in an era now where everyone, every president, right or wrong, coming out of these offices, you have to imagine is going to get indicted after this.
They're just throwing everything at this guy.
And look,
you can look at this and you might say, I think he did something wrong.
And if you do, you shouldn't vote for him, right?
Like you should do the opposite of that, which is vote for somebody else.
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So attorneys for Hunter Biden are in court now arguing, this was Sunday, just two days ago, that the pre-trial diversion agreement signed by federal prosecutors remains binding.
So, this is not the plea deal.
This is the diversion, which means we're not prosecuting you.
The gun part of it.
Court filing last Friday, now special counsel David Weiss asked a federal judge to vacate the charges filed against Biden in Delaware so he could re-file the charges in other jurisdictions.
Weiss told the court that
prosecutors and Biden's counsel were at an impasse impasse and not in agreement on either the plea agreement or the diversion agreement.
Despite the prosecutor's desire to start over, Biden lawyers said the client intends to abide by the terms of the diversion agreement that was executed on July 26 hearing by the defendant.
The parties have a valid and binding bilateral diversion agreement.
This has to be decided by a judge because, unlike the plea deal, when you sign a diversion, that's between you
and the prosecutor.
The judge doesn't have to okay that.
So
both parties signed it, and now they're saying, well, it's binding.
Now, the prosecutor
is like, well, no, no, I'm pretty sure that's not.
No,
no, I'm pretty sure.
But that anything that is an agreement not to prosecute are struck between prosecutors and the defendant, and judicial approval is not typically required.
So that's
interesting.
Again, though, if they wanted to just let Hunter off, wouldn't they
just agree to this?
Why are they fighting it in court?
I get it.
Yeah.
I get it.
It's hard to understand.
I mean, because
I just think that's
honestly, I think that's cover.
The prosecutors also came out and said, you're ready for this.
The reason why they did that kind of a deal, the diversion, was to stop a vindictive Donald Trump from going after him.
You've got to be
kidding me.
If anybody has a right to be vindictive, it's Donald Trump, but I pray that he won't be vindictive.
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Oh, golly.
I don't know if you saw the
story yesterday.
A lot of people just kind of didn't pay attention to it.
So I thought maybe
we should bring it up and maybe highlight in a different way.
There are now
20,
20 politicians in Washington that are over 80.
Wow, that's a lot, although I may have guessed higher.
So I thought we should just go and look at some of these politicians.
And I'm just going to, just to put it into context, you know, what was a song that was out when they were a kid?
Okay.
Okay.
So Chuck Grassley, he's 89.
He was born September 17th, 1933.
And this was the song that was.
When he went away, the blues walked in and met me.
If he stays away, a rockin' chair will get me.
They don't put rocking chair in songs.
No, not enough anymore.
I mean, Lizzo has that one.
Yeah.
Right.
But she was.
She's a flautist for something that starts with an F.
So that's Chuck Grassley.
When
Dianne Feinstein Feinstein was
born, she's 90.
The top-grossing movie was King Kong.
The original.
The original.
The original.
Wow.
This is.
Yeah.
By the way, 1933,
Hitler was also just appointed Chancellor of Germany.
So,
yeah.
Now, at a whopping 81 years old,
born September 8th, 1941,
was Bernie Sanders.
And Bernie
had this super, super hit.
Now, I love this music, though.
It's great.
It really is.
It just, it does feel old.
A little into perspective.
Yeah, it puts it into perspective.
This is what was on the radio.
I'll explain what radio is later to the kids.
But that is Bernie Sanders.
Listening to this stuff, it's like, this is the stuff that you hear when
Michael J.
Fox went back to 90.
And then you're like, wait, no, that was 1955.
Yes.
That was a decade, two decades away.
Yeah.
For when he went back in time,
Diane Feinstein was in her mid-20s.
Mitch McConnell, this is what was playing on the radio.
So if you've ever seen the movie White Christmas,
bingo,
that's, oh, by the way,
the Manhattan Project had just started when Mitch McConnell was born.
Was Mitch in Oppenheimer?
Did he make an appearance in that?
I think he was Fat Man.
Okay.
Or Little Boy.
I don't remember.
Is it Jim Reich?
Risch?
He's a Republican in Idaho.
Here he is.
The year the Slinky was invented.
We don't have anybody young enough to be born in the year the hula hoop was invented, but Slinky.
Yes.
Now, Grace Napolitano from California.
This is what was happening in 1936 when she was born.
Every time it rains,
and he's from heaven.
FDR had just won his second presidential election.
He had
four total.
This was just the beginning of his second one.
Then we have Eleanor Holmes Norton.
She was born the year that Amelia Earhart disappeared.
This was
the radio.
We're still four years away from World War II.
We have Harold Rogers from Kentucky.
He's 85 years old.
He was
born to this music.
And the Shirley Temple film Heidi had just been released.
I'll explain, kids, what Shirley Temple is a little later.
Bill Crabb Pascrel from New Jersey, 86 years old.
I'd like to say...
Heavenly flower.
Oh, the humanity.
Yes, he was born as the Hindenburg
burning to the ground.
Yeah, yeah.
Maxine Waters was born with this super, super classic.
You remember the TV show The Adams Family?
Yeah.
Well, long before television was invented,
it was a comic strip.
Really?
Yes.
I did not know it.
I didn't know that.
It was in something kids called a newspaper.
And there were the Sunday funnies or a comic strip.
Uh, and uh, the the year Maxine Waters was born is the uh first comic strip of the Adams family,
much, much, much later to be a TV show, and then a movie,
yes, and uh, yeah, and cartoons too, right?
I believe so
later on, yeah.
Uh, we have uh Stenny Hoyer,
not a lot of Stennis these days.
Now, do you recognize?
I mean, you recognize this?
This is also the year, don't worry about it, this is also the year that
the Columbia Broadcasting System presents War of the Worlds with Orson Welles.
Yes, yes.
Same year as War of the Worlds.
Stations present Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater on the Air in The War of the Worlds by H.G.
Wells.
Now, slightly, slightly younger than that is James Clyburn.
He's 83.
He was born July 21st, 1940,
when this was out.
And you could buy a pound of bread, buy a pound of bread.
When did we sell bread by the pound?
You could buy a pound of bread for 10 cents.
But
then we have Nancy Pelosi.
She was born in 1940, so she's really kind of a spring chicken here.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In 1940, Congress limited the work week to 40 hours.
Now,
most people would say
people work more than 40 hours.
And other people would say, what's work?
But Nancy Pelosi definitely knows.
Then Danny Davis, he is a Democrat.
Yeah.
Is this Post Malone or who is this?
Yeah.
Now,
this is the year that Captain America was first penned and put in a comic book.
The Marvel movie?
No, not the movie.
No.
No, the comic book.
Okay.
Okay.
John Carter, he's a Republican for Texas.
This is...
Now you're going to like this.
As time goes by, really.
It was...
John would remember that he was born the year General Mills introduced something called Cheerioats.
Oh, Cheerio.
I love Cheerios.
They're delicious.
And much, much, much, much, much, much, much later became Cheerios.
Cheerios.
Yeah.
I prefer the Cheerioats, personally.
Really?
Yeah.
This is Anna Eshu.
Her birthday, December 13th, 1942.
I gotta get it.
This is the year.
She was born the year FDR called for the internment of the Japanese in American concentration camps,
which she's got to be so very proud of.
Frederica Wilson, a Democrat from Florida,
she was born under
this.
And
a 12-ounce Pepsi cost five cents when she was born.
Rosa DeLoro,
she was born the year, and you're not going to find this hard to believe.
Born the year scientists discovered that LSD had psychedelic properties.
Lay that pistol down.
Yeah.
When you could sing songs about pistols.
No, it's putting the pistol down.
It's a gun control song.
You're like, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Virginia Fox from North Carolina, 80 years old,
1943.
She was born.
And we're now about to enter the stereophonic phase.
Yeah, but not yet.
Not yet.
We're still about
10 years, maybe 15 years away from stereophonic.
But
she was born the year Italy surrendered.
in World War II.
And then, of course, we have Kay Granger from Texas.
She was born.
Yeah.
She was born the year James Cagney won Best Actor for his performance in Yankee Doodle Dandy.
Which that's a good performance.
It's a little like Top Gun without
any kind of technology in it.
Yeah,
not a lot of planes, really.
Nothing utilized.
Really, not back then.
It's interesting.
And like, you know, part of me thinks if you're 84 and you get elected for the first time, good for you.
You know, good for you.
If you are so incredible at 84 that you just really walk in there and it's like, hey, I'm running.
And the voters say, hey, come on in.
That's wonderful.
Congratulations.
When it's reelection number 27,
it kind of becomes an issue.
And we're seeing, I don't know, some
after effects of some of these decisions.
California looking at you with Dianne Feinstein right now.
Yeah.
You know what?
By the way, none of these people are boomers.
Oh, we're in Silent Generation?
Yeah.
Is that what it was?
Is that the one before Boomers?
Silent?
Yeah, yeah.
So they weren't boomers because the war hadn't finished yet.
So, baby boomers?
No.
This is the generation before
baby boomers.
just to give you a little perspective now
look
they tell me i don't believe this but they tell me that someday i'll be their age
and that i mean doctors do not agree with this analysis yes they think i'll be dead long before but
uh
uh but that being said uh if i do make it i won't be in Congress.
Right.
And I think maybe some of these really, really, really, really old people
should leave us alone.
You've had your day in the sun.
In fact, you've had more than a day in the sun.
You've had over 80 years in the sun.
And when you leave something out in the sun too long, it tends to dehydrate.
Yes.
And shrivel up.
Right.
And there you are.
Perhaps that's happened to many of the brains in Congress.
Yes.
So please leave Congress.
Now, I hope that this gives you a perspective of the 20 people that are running our country right now.
That does not include the executive branch.
I was going to say, yeah, Biden, we didn't even talk about it.
No, no.
He's obviously on this list.
Absolutely.
But maybe, maybe that will help you understand how very, very old these
generation before the boomers really are.
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How's she supposed to get home?
Possibly one of the greatest songs ever, don't you think?
I think probably the greatest.
I mean, can we are up for a change in the national anthem?
Yeah.
What are you thinking?
I mean, what's this?
She's speaking, you know, the language of a whole generation.
How am I supposed to get home?
Where am I supposed to get home?
Let me show you something really stupid.
I read about this in the Rolling Stone.
Do you have the other one?
Yeah.
Working all day,
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Oh, they're bad.
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Where to hell, my phone?
That's that's art.
Yeah,
Oh, yeah.
All up in her context, which
I don't think we should play any more of that one.
It could go awry.
It could go awry.
Well, it is Lizzo, and she's a genius, honestly.
Look how she posts a Get Homeback program.
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On yesterday's program, we had a former member of the Capitol Police who was giving us new information yesterday about what's on the tapes, what he saw, and who is responsible.
He also gave us a name of somebody I had not heard of, and he said, everybody in America should know this name.
just like they know Ray Epps, but you should know this name as well.
Steve Baker joins us with a further update on this.
He's an investigative journalist and Blaze Media contributor.
He is the guy that has been given permission to view the 12,000 hours of videotape.
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Good to be be back, Lynn.
Thanks for having me.
So I had you on, I think it was last week, and we were talking about the 12,000 hours that you have been promised your first up to view because you're working on a story for the Blaze, and you have found some pretty shocking things, but you need to verify before you even write this.
You need to verify on tape, correct?
That's correct.
It's actually 41,000 hours.
It's roughly the math is the 41,000 hours by time, 1,700-plus cameras that are available on the Capitol campus, and that would be the 24-hour day of January 6th.
That's where that 41,000-hour number comes from.
So they are going to court today to try to cordon off some of this tape and say you can't see it because of national security.
Is that going to prevail and will that affect you?
It's an interesting question because we have, as you know, had limited access.
There's only been five journalists given access up to this point.
The first and most public of those was Tucker Carlson's staff's access.
And then Julie Kelly, John Solomon, Joe Hanneman from the Epoch Times, and myself are the only five up to this point that we know of who have been given that access.
And then there's been a pause button hit, and we were told that the reason why this pause button was hit was because they were developing a new media guideline.
This was coming directly from Speaker McCarthy's staff.
And with this new guidelines that were going to be published, and this was supposed to be published over a month ago, and then I got a call from a staffer last week who told me very specifically, he said, you were first back in.
You were the guy.
We know what you're working on.
We want this story out.
And you're going to be the first one back in under the new guidelines.
And they told me that this guidelines was going to be out last Friday.
Well, that didn't happen.
And so we still haven't seen the guidelines.
And I'm wondering if there's not some connection to this new judicial watch file.
It's not a new judicial watch filing, by the way.
They filed this lawsuit back in February of 21, just a month after January 6th.
But the point being is that the Capitol Police themselves do not want people to have access to this video.
So that's what's coming up in court today.
That's going to be a decision that prevents us from getting back in.
That is a real problem.
This is the people's videotape.
This is the people's house, the people's capital.
And we're not allowed to see the videotape.
I don't buy.
It's not for
a reason that is less than dark.
So
yesterday, we had a former Capitol Police officer on with us, and he said, nobody knows who Julie Farnum is, and everyone should know.
Do Do you know her, and what can you tell us about her?
Julie Farnum was hired by the Capitol Police just October of 2020, so just three months before January 6th.
And she was brought in to basically revamp, which was what they referred to in
the January 6th committee testimony as being a failing agency or a failing division itself.
And she came from Homeland Security.
She was actually oversaw what they called their immigration betting division.
Imagine what that was like.
Yeah.
But she did say that that was a significant intelligence position that she held, and that she was
then brought in to oversee this 12-person internal Intel analyst division at the Capitol Police, which she describes as an intelligent consuming division, not an Intel gathering division, whatever that means.
But I will tell you this, that there's not really anything nefarious at all.
As a matter of fact,
her testimony even before Pelosi's J6 select committee is quite damning as to what was available to them.
She was very clear that they had significant intel.
In fact, they had intel that said specifically that there were going to be a large number of armed and with weapons
coming to the Capitol that day, that there was actual intent to actually invade the Capitol that day, and that furthermore,
there was intelligence that they intended to actually take out Congress members.
And with all of that intelligence there and reported to the January 6th Committee, this information has never been shared with the American public.
But I have the transcript of her testimony.
Holy cow.
So Farnum, she worked for Farnum, right?
In the intelligence arm of Farnum.
She worked for the Capitol Police.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah,
she would have been reporting directly to Assistant Chief Yogananda Pittman, who was the head of Capitol Police Intelligence.
Okay.
And then when she moves over to the chief of police, Pittman,
then Farnum goes where?
Farnum was with the agency for, or with the department, the Capitol Police, as their, what they call assistant director of intelligence and interagency coordination so she headed up that division for about two and a half years before she went back into apparently private practice she's no longer lived with them that she left in May of this year okay so why would he say yesterday that we need to know her she sounds like a good guy
yeah I I I will I will tell you that the background that I have personally done on Farnum doesn't give me any indication that she herself had any nefarious intent.
But I will tell you that, again, going back to her testimony before the select committee, that there are more clues about what
Lieutenant Johnson said in that, that she absolutely called an intelligence meeting with
Upper Echelon of Capitol Police Leadership, and this was on January 4th, in which she specifically says that
both Chief Gallagher and Chief Pittman were present.
And she even says to the committee, it is my understanding that Chief Sund was not invited, quote unquote.
So who would have the power or what would the motivation be for Pittman not to pass all of this intel along?
Well, what would be the motivation?
I mean, we have to, you know, with any type of government operation, we have to start with incompetence.
You know, you always start there.
And when we're talking about
the actual police department administrated by the largest, most incompetent government in the world, you know,
it's a fair place to start before you get into malfeasance or malevolence or anything of that sort.
But the fact that they knew, and this isn't very, very important for the American people to know, is not only that they have the intelligence, and it wasn't just from their own internal analysts, this intelligence of a significant event that was coming their way was testified to by many other sources.
We know that the FBI was sharing intelligence with them.
They were receiving intelligence all the way from the New York Police Department that there was significant, nefarious operators that were going to be descending on D.C.
that day.
And then, of course, we also have heard, as we heard in the Tucker Carlson-Steven Son interview last week, that we had both the
chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Milley, as well as the
Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, wanted to shut D.C.
down.
They wanted to cancel all of the permitted events.
And this is the other thing that Americans don't know, is that the Capitol Police themselves had issued at least six, what they call First Amendment protest permits for that day.
These were signed off by the Capitol Police in which they knew that members of Congress were going to be speaking at some of those side-stage events on the Capitol property.
We're not talking about the big rally that Trump was holding at the ellipse, but these were events that were scheduled, permitted, legally so, signed off by the Capitol Police leadership.
And for some reason, none of that information was ever passed down to their
command level officers like Lieutenant Johnson.
None of that information was ever shared in their morning roll call briefings that morning.
We know from multiple testimonies both on the record and off the record with Capitol Police officers, frontline officers, that they knew nothing about what was coming their way that day.
We even heard those testimonies in trials.
In the first Oath Keeper trial, there was an officer by the name of Ryan Salky, and he was a brave officer.
He stood his ground on the east door.
That's where the famous Columbus doors are.
He was getting beaten, manhandled.
He was getting just drenched in all manner of pepper spray and OC spray.
And he never left his post until that door was finally breached.
And in that trial, he was asked under cross-examination if he knew about the permitted events on the Capitol grounds that day.
And he said, no.
He said, the only thing I know, and I quote from my own notes because I was there at that trial, he said, I only knew something was happening at the White House.
What conclusion do you draw?
And are we ever going to get to the end of this?
Are we ever going to find out what really happened?
What happened to the pipe bombers?
Where is that?
Well, exactly.
Look, Glenn, I draw the same conclusion as Tucker did in that interview last week.
This sounds like a setup.
And there's just too many missing, or there's too many elements here, too many connective tissues showing that it was for this to be just gross incompetence.
And in fact, in Farnum's assessment, one of the last things, questions that she was asked was, was this a failure leading up to January 6th?
And her answer was very simply this.
She said, I don't think it was a failure of intelligence.
I think it was a failure to operationalize the intelligence.
And of course, she would not have had the,
it was not her position to do and write the morning briefings for those officers that day.
Somebody had that information.
Obviously, it goes right up to Pittman's office, and she had a briefing with them on the 4th.
That information was shared, and for some reason, they did not disseminate that to their officers that day.
Do you know what happened with or where we are on the pipe bomb?
Is that just over?
We're not looking forward to that.
It's still called an open investigation, which is why in recent hearings on the Hill that that they won't answer questions about it because, as you know, they always say, well, that's an open investigation.
I can't talk about it.
But I will tell you this.
We know that the pipe bombs themselves were inoperable.
They were stunt pieces.
They were never intended to go off.
They were basically diversionary tactics because the first one was found in the minutes before the first barricade breach at about 12.52 p.m.
that day.
And then the second was found just after that.
And when both of those were found, and you can hear it on the Capitol Police radio comms which I've heard all of them I've heard hours and hours of their radio communications I've read the transcripts that there is
absolutely was chaos in that moment because now the undermanned Capitol Police which is a whole other story in and of itself is why a department with almost 2,000 uniformed officers that day only had a couple of hundred available on campus at the time and then they were
additionally diverted because those pipe bombs were found at buildings under the purview and the responsibility of the Capitol Police themselves.
It is almost like what a terrorist does when they set off a bomb and all the first responders go there
and are distracted from what really is going on, or they're blown up at the site.
They drag them in.
I think these guys with the pipe bombs clearly were dragging the Capitol Police away, so things could get much much worse.
Do you believe the only conclusion?
Yeah, do you believe, Steve?
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Steve, in your investigation that you're doing, and we don't want to give out any details until you find what you're looking for.
You say you have the smoking gun, you just have to get it, and hopefully, it's not
shut out from it after today's hearing.
But how close are you really to being able to prove that
this was at least aided and abetted by somebody in our government?
I can tell you that there were specific circumstances that have been produced in trials and given to the American people through the media sources, the mainstream media mostly, that stories that have been told in those trials are not what the truth
is shown through these videos.
We have clear-cut examples that I have found of And there's just no other way to say it.
I have found, as I think I said to you last week, the kill shot on actual
manufacturing of evidence that did not exist
by the truth of the video reveal, as well as the suppression of exculpatory evidence in some of these trials that
is nothing more than a conspiracy by both the Department of Justice and FBI to create evidence out of whole cloth to convict individuals as well as to suppress
evidence.
Usually when that happens, everybody is released because if they're suppressing evidence or doing anything else, you can't trust any of the court cases at all.
Do you think you'll see these people go free?
I think that
once we reveal this information, and Glenn, to be honest with you, if they block us from getting the access to the videos, I've already seen it.
I've read at least a dozen other people into this, as well as other eyeballs, have seen the information that I have found.
In fact, we called after the first day of what we stumbled upon.
I immediately got on the phone, called Mike Howell from the Oversight Project at the Heritage Foundation, and had him come over.
And I showed him what we found because I needed somebody else's eyeballs on this, but it was that big and it was that important.
So even if they
withhold the access to, in other words, they don't give me the video clips on a hard drive and allow us to show this to the American people, I already have the camera numbers, I have the timelines, and we will reveal the cover-up if we have to go that far.
Wow.
Thank you for everything that you're doing, Steve.
I appreciate it.
I just, I think Americans are just tired of all of this and just want justice, one way or another.
You know, if bad guys are on our side, put them in jail.
If bad guys are on the other side, put them in jail.
I'm so tired of this game that they're playing and our children and our children's lives and opportunities all at stake all at stake for what
so they can have more power and more money it's grotesque
steve thank you
thank you glenn appreciate it
you know i was um
i had our our daily uh meeting with the producers today
and michaela said
man today
oof
today i just I read all of the
news in the show prep, and it just hit me so hard.
I'm really having a hard time.
I had to stop and pray.
And
I'm like, really?
Because I thought today was kind of a slow news day.
It was kind of the typical.
It's weird how some days, you know, it hit us differently.
We are in the battle of our lives for the battle of the Republic.
And I personally think there is so much good news the log jam we are so close
so close to be able to unravel this whole thing and americans are waking up stay calm cool and collective
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Again, I mean, you know, Biden is.
Oof.
You're not going to go as far as Biden.
Mike, you're not going to go to the beach for this, are you?
No, I'm not going to go to the beach.
Okay.
No, I can't do that.
The only way to honor Maui and to support them is to go to the beach.
Right?
Like Chris Christie.
Like, you want to look like Chris Christie.
People are taking pictures of you from a helicopter.
That's what they look like to me with Biden, except he's a little thinner.
Other than that, it was pretty much the same photo.
So what you're saying to me is
I should go to the beach, but I can't.
You should go because that would support Maui.
That's how the president is doing it, and that's how you should do it.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
I think we should all leave.
Just go to the beach right now.
I was talking to Doug Gowdy from WGY this morning, and he, our affiliate in Albany, New York, and he brought up, he's like, you know, the guy I used to work with is from Hawaii.
Like, if you didn't want to do anything about Maui, why not call Barack up and just be like, hey, why don't you take this one on?
Be the face of this.
Maybe go out there and try to help the people a little bit.
He doesn't want to.
He knows what's going on.
He has no idea.
You think they're telling him about Maui?
I doubt it.
I mean, it really is pathetic.
And
multiple levels, too.
Like, it's wrong because these people really need help.
This is a real tragedy.
It's the worst wildfire as far as death goes in 150 years.
A thousand people are still missing.
Is it really that high?
A thousand.
Wow.
I read that last night.
I couldn't believe.
A thousand
are still missing.
And all over and over again, the government promised, we have the highest tech warning systems for anything like this.
Everything.
We don't worry about it.
We've got you.
We've got you.
And then when it happened, none of the warning signals went off.
No one even knew this was happening.
People were waking up at 5 o'clock in the morning to smoke and fire all around them with no hope.
And then they had to sit there and bob in the water for hours until someone came to rescue them.
I mean, it is incomprehensible how bad this is handled.
What bothers me is just, you know,
I don't know.
I think I have a bigger problem with hypocrites than I do with actual just plain old criminals.
You know what I mean?
Criminal who's like, yeah, I mean, of course, yeah, I whacked the guy.
What?
I mean, I have more respect for that
than
the president and his
uppity attitude that he's full of compassion and he just loves everybody and it's time to bring everybody together.
He didn't go to Ohio, he didn't go to Ohio.
No, didn't he say he was going to, and then never went to
he's not going to Hawaii.
I mean,
who is this guy?
And let's take a step back from doing the right thing because I don't know if people have noticed this.
The Biden administration doesn't seem concerned with such things.
Yeah.
So just step back to the point of like, the man is in the middle of a presidential election.
Like, just politics 101
would tell you to appear engaged.
So look at the difference.
Look at the difference between the hurricane in Florida and the way DeSantis handled that and
Hawaii.
Yeah.
I mean, DeSantis has had several of these situations that have gone on in Florida and he's looked really good in all of them
where
the situation with, I mean, over and over again, he's doing this, right?
Buda Jej doesn't show up.
You know, Biden, I mean, I don't know that he should show up to Hawaii right now.
Probably not ideal, but still,
he should be doing daily press conferences with updates, how the resources are getting there.
Again, separating this from what's right and wrong.
I have no expectation of him even attempting to do something that's right.
I'm just saying, from the idea of trying to win an election, do you remember what it looked like when
George Bush looked out?
When he did go and when he just looked out the window of the plane when he was observing it and there was a picture of that.
His presidency was destroyed partially by that.
He did that.
He did that because he wanted to go, but did not want to trouble the people of New Orleans with a presidential visit.
Right.
And I can understand not a presidential visit is not appropriate at this moment.
But like he wanted to appear engaged.
Now, I think George W.
Bush wanted to help the people do too.
But I think he also wanted to appear engaged in a major story where a lot of people were suffering.
And the president goes to the beach.
And by the way, not word one from the media.
Remember all the people who were talking about how often George Bush played golf?
Remember those days?
Oh, by the way, Biden has already surpassed the most vacation days
than anybody else ever in the presidency.
I am not surprised.
And so you have a situation where it's just surprising that you'd think they would say to him, look, you have to at least appear like you care.
I know you don't, but can you appear like you care about this?
Because we have a presidential election coming up unless he just knows he's not running, unless he's already resigned himself to saying, I'm not going to do this anyway, who cares?
Or he already knows he's won.
Or he already knows right around the corner, the next day is going to be a giant Trump indictment and no one's going to be talking about the way he's handling Maui.
And I know it would be shocking because they always say they heard about this stuff on the news just like us.
They never know what Merrick Garland's going to do.
They didn't know what this prosecutor is going to do.
They never know.
They always learn about it actually after us because
they're that disengaged with this process.
It's totally independent, Glenn.
But given the fact that this came out, again, people are not going to be focusing on what Biden is doing with Hawaii.
But this, of course, story is yet another chance to try to throw President Trump in prison.
You know, hang on.
Before you go,
I gave you the opportunity to give the truth about
he doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
You have failed to tell the American people the truth about the FEMA administrator.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Deanne Criswell.
Okay, yeah.
No, I didn't say anything about Deanne Criswell.
You didn't.
You didn't.
She said
she has a desire for the government's efforts to assist the survivors.
And And you have the actual quote here.
Go ahead and play this.
It's very Can you speak to the issue of ongoing communications?
In the earliest crisis, that was a problem and people getting information, whether it was the warning systems or any of that.
But with towers down and
difficulty, how much is the inability to communicate with the citizens, with each other, still an ongoing part of what you're dealing with?
And what can be done to augment communication capabilities?
speak to the initial communications and the warning.
What we are really focused on right now is making sure that we do have continuous communication to help people understand what resources are available, what the next steps in the process are going to be, and where they can go to get more information.
Okay, well, see, now that seems like she didn't, but we cut it off too early because she said we're working with our state and local partners to ensure that our outreach and our messaging is also culturally responsive.
Oh,
good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, great.
Like, so lots of eyes with apostrophes and other eyes.
Yeah.
I, you know, I think it's really, really good.
And I want to be culturally appropriate as well.
So I'm sending in from my childhood.
My puka shells.
Wow.
That's
what a brave choice.
Yeah, I know.
Thank you.
That's really impressive.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Can you believe?
What are you talking about?
No one cares about cultural
culturally responsive?
What are you talking about?
Rescue us.
Fix our houses.
Next time, don't let this happen again.
How about that?
Maybe have Biden show
some attention to the area and maybe get off the beach.
for a little bit.
That would be nice.
Don't worry about what the culturally appropriate thing is to say.
Just help people.
Help people in that moment.
I really, I like Biden, and I'm being sincere.
I like Biden's approach.
It has nothing to do with the federal government.
These things should be taken care of by the American people.
No, I know.
I don't like his approach.
No, I know.
But I think the president shouldn't be involved in all of these things.
And the government shouldn't be the first responder.
It should be the last responder.
However, that's not what they're doing.
They're always saying, we're the best.
We're going to get in there.
We're going to do it.
They don't care.
I've never seen an administration that cares less about the American people than
this group of people.
I really haven't.
I haven't seen anything close to it.
They don't care.
Because they at least pretend.
These guys don't.
No.
They don't care at all.
I mean, why would you tell millions of people they're going to get their loans forgiven when you know it's not going to happen?
You just tell it anyway, let them get all excited, let them start spending more money that they should have been putting toward their loans, and then just rip the rug right out from under them and act like nothing happened.
Even though you knew the whole time it was going to be ruled unconstitutional.
Of course they knew that, but they did it anyway because they don't care about people.
It's a very consistent message from this administration in actions.
And on the two-year anniversary of the disastrous withdrawal in Afghanistan.
Because they didn't care.
They did not care at all about that situation.
He never said anything about the people falling from the airplanes.
I mean, very consistent.
Look,
not necessarily in words, but in actions, it's a very consistent message.
And with the Maui situation, it's kind of actually consistent in words, too, because there's nothing happening.
There's nothing happening.
And I don't know.
I mean, I guess they just feel so shielded from the media at this point.
that they don't have to do anything.
I guess he believes running a campaign from his basement will work again.
So he doesn't have to campaign.
He doesn't have to look like he's engaged.
He doesn't have to care that
people are dying and have died in Hawaii, one of the worst tragedies we've seen in a long time.
He doesn't even have to appear to care, and he can still win.
I guess that's his idea.
Well, we thought it was crazy last time.
I know.
I know.
We thought it was crazy last time.
Maybe he's right.
I really think that Donald Trump should run the campaign that Joe Biden ran in 2020.
So we just never see either of the candidates?
Yeah, just
do it from your house and just, you know, hey, here I am.
And just,
you know,
I don't think Donald Trump has anything to gain by going to this Fox.
And I hope he does.
You know, as a person, but I don't think he has anything to gain.
I mean, look, from a game theory standpoint, there's a really good argument for him not to go to this.
From a country standpoint, I mean, look, he's the leader.
He should be there at a debate.
Don't you think?
Isn't it weird?
I understand from a game, like if I'm a manager of a, of a, of a sports franchise and this is the game I'm trying to manage, I would say to him, look, you're up by 30 or 40 points.
What's the point of this?
Wait till one of these guys breaks out, then go face him one-on-one or two, or one-on-two.
And you don't have to worry about this.
I get that.
But like,
I don't know.
I mean, it just seems like it's the right thing to do to hear from this guy.
If he's going to be winning by 40 points, we should probably be hearing from him and let him compare himself to everyone else.
He's done well well in these debates.
I don't think he's afraid of it.
I think he's just looking at it as what's to gain here.
What am I going to go up by 50?
And I get that, but it doesn't feel like the right way to go through this process.
Do you agree with that?
I do, but I also think
strategic
for him,
I would be saying...
Don't go.
Yeah, let Mike Pence and Chris Christie yell at each other.
Let Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy yell at each other for a while.
You sit back.
They go go punish each other.
If one of them breaks out, which there's honestly no indication that may not even happen, honestly.
With all these indictments coming down, he may win by 80 points.
That's crazy.
But like,
I can totally understand it from a game theory standpoint.
What is there to gain?
But I mean, there is something very American about this process where we're supposed to see these guys together arguing out these ideas.
And I wish at some point, maybe in my lifetime, we will have a conversation about a policy.
Like, I just want that to happen.
Fox News.
I don't think Fox News is going to ask all the same boring,
you know.
Who's doing that?
Do we know who's monitoring?
How much more money will you give to Ukraine?
Do you think that's enough?
I mean, when will you go to war with Ukraine?
It'll just be these typical questions, unlike anything that happened at the summit.
It's time for you.
I think for Martha McCallum and Brett Baer, I think they'll ask some good questions.
Brett Baer, they're both, they both are both pretty good.
There's some over there that I'm not a huge fan of.
The Fox News operation has taken its hits over the past couple of years.
But I mean, I don't have a problem with those two.
They may very well ask a lot of dumb questions.
I'm not saying they won't, but I mean, they might.
I do say that I'm seeing this now, this description of the debate includes pre-taped questions submitted by students.
Oh, God.
Can we stop with it?
Stop it.
Stop with the pre-taped.
Stop it.
Just ask.
Can't, can't.
No.
I say our coverage, we should run, I don't know, Mr.
Smith goes to Washington, and we'll just comment as if that's the debate.
Yeah, it'll be more interesting.
I mean, it's just
yikes.
I don't know.
We'll see.
By the way, it's a week from tomorrow.
We do have Blaze TV coverage, blazetv.com slash Glenn, promo code Glenn, on youtube.com slash stew doesamerica.
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Well,
Stu was just saying that the Fox News channel is doing, you know,
teenagers, I guess, or students asking questions of the candidates.
And Henri is on the phone now.
You're one of those students?
It's Henry.
Yeah, Henry, yes.
Yeah, you snob.
Yeah.
I asked some questions, and he only took one of them.
Yeah.
I asked, in Fortnite, what's your favorite gun?
And then I asked, what's your favorite tower upgrade in Roblox?
And they didn't accept either of those.
They only accepted my third one.
Well, which is...
How much more money will you spend on Ukraine?
They took that one right away.
Good.
Thank you, Henry.
I appreciate it.
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It's Henri.
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I would like to set the record straight after hearing about how horrible this summer has been.
It's been the hottest summer in 155
trillion billion years.
Never been hotter.
Never been hotter.
Of course, we all know that's absolutely true because science has decided.
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So tell me if you've heard this phrase before.
Scientific consensus.
I have a real problem with scientific or all of the experts agree.
A consensus of 97% of government-funded scientists support the idea of man-made global warming.
If it was said that way, I would probably have less of a problem with it.
A consensus of 97% of government-funded scientists all agree.
Most scientists believe when a star goes supernova, the result is
a dense, dense object called a black hole.
9 out of 10 dentists agree that crest toothpaste prevents tooth decay and would recommend crest toothpaste for their family.
Well, that's great.
9 out of 10.
Well, if 9 out of 10 dentists really do agree,
then why don't they just ban all other toothpastes?
I mean, we have the scientific consensus, don't we?
Why don't we just ban everything else?
Because they know more than you do.
How about this one?
99% of scientists agree that bloodletting by way of leeching is healthy and will expel the evil spirits that are in your blood.
That could have been said at one point because all the experts agreed that was true.
What if a car company?
If a car company could just tell you what to do, if a car company knew that their new technology was superior in all ways, but you didn't want to buy it.
Imagine if experts said this car is better and you have to buy that car and you can no longer buy the cars.
Wait a minute.
Oh, that's happening.
All right, how about this one?
Let's say a bunch of experts get together and they told you you couldn't have ice cream or milk or beef because.
Wait, that's happening too.
Yeah, but they would never tell you to eat bu
Oh, they are saying to eat bugs.
Okay, all right.
Experts get together and they say
the stove that you have in your house that you've used forever.
Your kids grew up in the house.
Everybody's fine.
They now say that gas stove is too dangerous.
Okay, they're doing that one too.
Vacations are a thing of the past, so you can't ride airplanes.
And they're doing that one too.
We have allowed a myth to develop.
We may as well now call it the Al Gore myth, that there is some percentage of scientists or experts that is the right percentage of scientists or experts that must compel us to believe their theories, including being compelled to act upon those theories even against the will of the people.
Even if acting upon the consensus of opinion, some expert group tramples on the individual rights of others, it's okay because a majority of scientists think something together.
So you don't matter anymore.
I really, really, really, really hope that one of these days,
we'll realize the only expert that counts is you.
That's the one that counts.
Because look where the experts have gotten us.
Did you see the experts?
They're talking about the new song that is out.
What's that guy's name?
Oliver
Anthony?
Anthony Oliver.
No, Oliver Anthony, I believe.
Yeah, you have two first names.
You don't get to choose the order when you choose that.
You probably know.
All of the experts are now saying he's worthless.
He's no good.
He's just a deplorable.
Why?
And why do we care what they say?
We have Alex Clark on.
She's the host of the spillover from Turning Point USA.
Alex.
Two first names, too.
You could call her Clark Alex Alex.
I am.
I am.
And they're both guy names, and yet she's a woman.
Interesting.
So, Clark, Alex, as if that is your real name.
Welcome to the program.
How are you?
Thanks.
I'm feeling good.
I feel like America is kind of back with this song.
I'm so excited.
You like it?
I do like it.
And I was excited.
So I checked the iTunes charts this morning, Glenn, and he's not only number one on iTunes with this song, but
the top 50 on iTunes right now is filled with multiple songs of his.
So because of this song, now people are going and they're streaming a ton of his songs.
So it's his song is the most viral song in the country right now.
And then Jason Aldeans, try that in a small town.
I mean, that's pretty telling about the state of America.
No, but experts will tell us that those are just four deplorables, that those are just hicks, that
this isn't saying anything except Donald Trump should be the ruler and king for the whole world forever.
I mean,
they are dismissive.
This song, I think, is
it cuts right to the core of how people are feeling,
and they don't care.
They don't care.
Yeah, well, you weren't born to just pay bills and die.
And any genre of music, you know, especially when there is truth and there's passion and there's soul in the performer performing the song, that's going to resonate with people.
That could be said for anybody I mean if you just look across history and what songs have have done particularly well
it's whatever artist has kind of captured the cultural zeitgeist of the moment and that is what this guy has done this song has tapped into the cultural zeitgeist of the silent majority he's talking about growing wealth disparity he's talking about a 1984 or wellian government overreach he's talking about rampant inflation and taxes being unfair.
He's talking about people being hungry and how we have fat homeless people because all we do is feed the poor processed, low-quality, cheap food in this country, a welfare state, male depression.
This is what real people are
going through.
And yet they don't seem to either hear it or care.
And I'm not sure that this guy is necessarily a conservative or a Trump supporter.
Or,
Everybody's like, hey, he's on our side.
I don't know if he is.
I have no idea.
I know that we have tried to get him on several times, and he wants to stay away from political shows because he doesn't want to be made into just a political thing.
But everything is political now.
Everything.
Yeah, but I think that's smart for him to do.
I mean, because look at look at how Morgan Wallen has had to scrape his way back up after his near cancellation and end of his career.
I think it is a mistake for any artistic work, I think movies, music, to just be broadly and openly labeled conservative if it's just talking about culture like this.
Because I think we really need brand
We need artists, brand new artists like Oliver.
We need movies like Sound of Freedom that are really just calling attention to common sense.
And I think that when we are very quick to call these things conservative, that alienates a lot of people in the movie.
And then it prevents the message from getting out.
So if all people see is like, oh, there's this viral song by this Oliver Anthony guy, but he's conservative.
It's a political song, like they're going to be like, well, I'm not going to listen to that.
But if we're just like, hey, there's this like amazing song talking about life or whatever, it's just like very generic, then they're like, okay, I'll listen.
And then his message is likely to really resonate.
Well, I have to tell you, that's the way I received it.
And that's the way I passed it on to friends, was you got to listen to this guy.
Listen to the words of what he's saying.
I don't think he's conservative.
I mean, he might vote like a conservative.
I don't know.
But
this is an American message.
It's not like Democrats aren't suffering under Bidenomics.
It's not like they're not feeling everything
that
conservatives are feeling.
You can't tell me that they like it.
I'm sure some do, but
it's an American message for the time.
And, you know, the other is they're the ones separating themselves.
When you see the sound of freedom, that is something that should appeal to every American, every American.
It is the one thing that I really thought we still agreed on.
Slavery is bad.
Child exploitation is bad.
Rape is bad.
But apparently not.
You know, Disney held that movie and wouldn't release it until they were kind of, they had their hand forced.
Then they gave it to Angel and Angel took it and run.
And there's no point where they say, oh, you know, I guess maybe we should have.
No.
They're releasing Snow White where she's talking about.
you know, the sexism of the story and the dwarves.
It's crazy.
Yeah, exactly.
I had the same thought that there's no way that this song could have this massive amount of success if only conservatives are listening to it and relating to it.
So, you know, that there are people who might be classical liberals who traditionally vote Democrat.
And I'm not talking about a leftist because that's just a whole nother breed of people.
But the liberals, I'm sure that there are some that are like, you know what?
I also feel crippled, you know, by inflation right now.
My small business is struggling.
Like, I relate to this guy.
And the reaction videos on YouTube, you know, people that like play the song and then they they show themselves reacting to it the videos are men and women of all races all shapes all sizes and every single one of these people Glenn they're moved to tears they're moved to tears the reaction to this song being as big as it's been I really think should give people some hope for 2024 and I think that's a really smart decision from this guy to say I'm not going to do any political shows like just keep speaking truth And
that's how you actually red pill people.
You don't tell them, you know, you don't give a kid
like vegetables.
You put it in a smoothie or whatever.
You tell them they're having something else so that they'll actually eat it.
Like, that's what this guy's doing.
I think that's super smart.
What do you think of Alejandro Monteverde?
He is the guy that has,
he directed
the Sound of Freedom.
He's probably one of the world's best directors that no one knows yet.
I've been following him for years.
He's amazing.
And
he was immediately, they called the movie Sound of Freedom QAnon,
which
the movie was made two years before QAnon even showed up.
Where does the QAnon stuff come from?
It's just at this point, it's just a way to use that as an excuse, I think, to shut people up and get us to stop talking about any
productive or important conversation.
I think it's the most frustrating thing for me.
I mean, as soon as that QAnon stuff started flowing around online, like I knew this was bogus.
And I was like, I wish we would stop talking about it because I knew that this would be held against us at our throats as conservatives for the rest of time.
Like we are never escaping that crap, and it will always be held against us to invalidate any important message we have to say and say that we're just conspiracy theorists.
I have to tell you,
I know this is a conspiracy theory, but
it's a very well-run disinformation campaign.
And I don't know who started it, but boy, it sure has benefited one group of people.
to discredit others and also to discredit things like pedophilia.
You know,
there's a lot of people in in powerful positions especially in Hollywood that seem to like pedophilia and
and
it's just interesting to me that
QAnon kind of rose to prominence all about pedophilia thank you so much for being what a heck of a sentence it did
it did
I mean
you know look uh it's a it was you're saying basically like
what exactly?
You know, obviously, because there were some high-profile criminals, right, in Hollywood that were prosecuted for this.
Yeah.
Certainly Jeffrey Epstein.
If I wanted to make sure that,
you know, Epstein looked like a crazy, you know, not a big story.
If I wanted to, you know, make sure I'm protecting friends in Hollywood that were pedophiles, and I knew I was going to normalize pedophilia, the thing I would do is get people to laugh at pedophilia through something like QAnon.
They're going to way to wreck your opponents, essentially.
Yeah, wreck your opponent.
Wreck the credibility of all that so you can go out and do what they did on Sound of Freedom and say it's not that big of a deal.
Certainly what they're doing
by promoting it all the time and talking about QAnon when I don't know anyone who believes in it.
I don't know anybody.
I've never met a person who actually believes all the QAnon stuff, but yet is out there all the time in the media.
Sorry to interrupt.
Sorry to end the interview with that, Alex.
Yeah.
Sorry, Alex.
Thanks for being on with us.
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I'm getting tired of this story, getting tired of saying this story.
Can you imagine Donald Trump?
I think it's practically a joke with him at this point.
Oh, I've been indicted again.
This time for what?
How many?
He has to be at that point.
I mean, it does seem completely ridiculous.
Over and over again, we hear the same exact story, you know, but I've seen the coverage and it seems a little different than what I just heard last week.
Last week when the special counsel was announced for Hunter Biden, CNN went on a lengthy rant about, you know,
maybe it was Dan Abash.
I know I hate to bring humanity into this, but, you know, think about the struggles of this family.
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Like,
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I don't think there's been a moment of consideration about that, you know, and I don't know that it's even a news organization's role to worry about the strain on the family of someone being questioned legally, but still, I mean, come on.
Every single little bit of what even something they could call evidence was a confirmation that he was a Russian agent for eight years.
See, that is the problem.
You know, they say every every time with every new indictment, this is the one.
This is the one.
This is going to put him in jail.
They've been saying that for nine years.
And they never have
anything.
Anything.
Right.
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We have been doing some checking on something because I was going to rant about Fox News yesterday.
Stu was going to rant about it today,
and you still are.
I give you full permission to do that, Stu.
But we wanted to make sure that what was being said, because yesterday we saw a news report that
this is a little inside baseball, that we cannot use more than three minutes total of the audio from the presidential debate.
Now, I've never seen that before.
Fox is saying, you know, we've had that since 2016, 2020.
And it does seem to be, there was a policy in 2016 on these debates that was similar.
But they did not enforce.
Right.
I mean, it would be weird to enforce it, right?
Like, why would you want to hide the information from voters?
Like, these are your listeners.
These are the people that are.
That's really interesting, isn't it?
That's a good question.
It is a good question.
I mean, we now can't hear from Tucker Carlson or any of the candidates.
Right.
How are we supposed to?
So here's the thing.
They are apparently enforcing it this year.
And I've never seen that, not in my entire career.
You know, I was around for the
Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan presidential.
I was on radio.
I've done a ton of them in talk radio.
I have done, what, this will be our fifth presidential election in talk radio.
I've never had to worry about fair use on any clip, ever, ever.
And now
Premier and other radio networks are issuing saying, I don't think we can air any clips from Fox News.
So, wait a minute.
You're telling me that as a commentator, I can't take a presidential debate and take the audio clips from it and play it for you the next day?
I mean, I can't imagine that would hold up in court, but I don't want to get sued.
So,
I understood this is the threat of litigation.
So, help me out, Stu.
What are they doing?
What is Fox News doing?
I mean, look,
the best, most rosy part of idea here would be that they have a product that they're paying to produce and they want people to go to Fox News to watch it.
So, wait a minute.
I understand that.
I understand that.
But that's why you don't let anybody take it live.
So you're watching, because you're going to get about 8 to 10 million people watching.
That's it.
But you will expose it to 50 or 100 million people if you let people take the fair use.
Hey, on the Fox News debate last night, this is what happened.
If you cut that out, you're speaking directly to about 8 million people.
That's it.
I mean, it would certainly be, if this is real, and here's my hope that we have a week here before this, and this, there's some sane resolution behind the scenes that makes it okay for people to cover the news.
Hopefully Fox comes to their senses and there's a sane resolution of this.
And I hope for that.
But without it, I mean, you're basically,
you're certainly putting your own network and business interests above the country.
You don't want your own viewers to be
educated on who the candidates are or people who may have just missed your broadcast.
I mean, how often, Glenn, do we put debate clips in political commercials?
There's a specific clause that says you cannot use it for any reason after a week after the debate.
So once a week past the debate happens, if you play any clip for any reason, they're going to sue you or threaten, they could sue you, I guess, in this in this engagement.
You're breaking what they say is the
when it comes to things like this, you only own things if you enforce it every time.
It's why Disney is known to be just deadly in your courtroom because you have to defend your brand every single time it's challenged.
And if you don't, you lose that.
Yeah.
I mean, look, maybe this is just lawyers doing their thing and it'll get, it'll get,
they'll come to their senses and we'll get to a sane resolution.
I don't want to, I don't want to say that that won't happen because it doesn't make any sense, right?
If you're Fox, the whole point of this is not, this is not a, this is not a, you know, a special show that you're doing, you know, a special episode of, you know, whoever's on Fox these days, whoever, whoever that person is, a special episode and you're doing a special documentary or something.
That's not what this is.
This is a news event.
And yes, they're covering it.
And yes, they should be mentioned every time a clip is used.
This is the Fox News debate from last night, of course.
You know, but that's the way it's traditionally been done.
And I can't imagine.
that courts would look at this and say, oh, yeah, though, they're right.
They can designate the fair use.
You can't listen to the presidential candidates say things.
Why would MSNBC would then, every time they say something, a candidate, Biden goes on MSNBC and he says something dumb, we wouldn't be able to cover it?
It's absurd.
It doesn't make any sense.
It can't be in, it is like, it's like the thing where.
Come on, you're getting mad.
I know.
I'm just
reading to you.
How many times have we said today
that doesn't make any sense?
It isn't.
Just today.
And we're
going back to that well of, well, it can't be because it doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
I I got news for you.
Maybe we're the ones that don't make any sense in today's world.
And it's hilarious because MSNBC is running these things.
They're like, oh, well, these stupid idiot conservatives are all mad because they can't use the footage from Fox and this shows how stupid they are.
Yo, you know how many times they've used clips of the Glenn Beck program on MSNBC?
Should we go back and sue them for every one of those?
Like,
of course they should be able, if you say something stupid, they should be able to highlight it and say how stupid you are because you're a public figure and a news figure and they should be able to cover the news.
That's the way this works.
Now, there are abuses to that, right?
They can't air the entire Glenn Beck program on MSNBC because they're supposed to pay you if they want to do that.
But like for a news clip, a fair use, like
this, this sort of agreement couldn't possibly hold up in court.
But again, who wants to get in a fight?
I'd rather just reenact the thing before.
Well, I'm going to start on puppets now.
Puppets are.
I would actually like, I would like somebody to make a puppet of each of the candidates and send them to me.
Oh, God.
You're going to get 9 million puppets set to send to me.
Well, I'm only going to use the best.
So they better be good if you want to see it on TV.
I'm not sorting through your puppet requests.
Okay.
That's not my job.
Find somebody else.
What's our P.O.
box?
Ask him for our P.O.
box.
No one knows what our P.O.
box is.
We don't have a P.O.
box.
Yes, we do.
We don't have an address.
Get Craig.
Get Craig.
Craig doesn't know.
Get Craig.
He does too.
Craig Craig?
He doesn't speak our language.
Come on, open the door and ask Craig.
Craig's walking out the door, he's too far away now.
No, he's looking at him.
He's all the way over there.
That's glass.
There's
no way they're going to hear him through that glass.
No, yeah, he's talking to somebody else.
So,
he's just turned around and looked at Sarah.
I don't think so.
Uh-huh.
So, I'll get you a P.O.
box here for a second.
You want people to mail you puppets?
Is this a real request?
Are you actually going on the radio right now and saying you want people to mail you puppets?
Yeah.
Yeah, are you kidding me?
I mean, years ago, I asked the audience to mail me an A, and the first one that got here that wasn't broken won.
Now,
I didn't think that went all the way through for the sorting machines.
No.
And
the post office did have a problem with that one.
But puppets.
What would the shipping alone be on a Chris Christie puppet?
Oh.
I mean, that's a good thing.
No, no, no.
Thousands of dollars.
I have to hold it up on my hand.
So it can't be.
Well, Well, it can't be
a scale then.
What is it?
P.O.
box what?
Yes.
Don't do it.
This is you.
Don't put this on me.
She's like, should I give it to him?
You make the decision, Sarah.
Sarah.
You make the decision.
Out of how many puppets show up here?
Million.
I want Sarah sorting the puppets.
I don't have a P.O.
box.
I don't want you to sort them, Sarah.
I don't want you to sort them.
Yeah, until they start coming in.
No, no, no.
I won't have you sort them.
I promise you, I won't have you sort them.
I am not sorting them.
I will not sort puppets.
What's the P.O.
box?
Here we go.
Sarah's now pulling it up on her phone.
Send them to Glenn Beck Presidential Puppets.
P.O.
Box 1, 4,
3, 1, 8.
Now, saying them in duplicate like that is not going to lead to anything.
What city is that?
Is that Irvin?
Irving, Texas.
How big is this P.O.
box?
It's an enormous P.O.
box.
It really is.
And what's the zip code?
How about if I just tell you the whole thing?
Oh, go ahead.
Yeah, let's do the whole thing.
Sarah, here's Sarah now with making the decision to get puppets sent here.
Sarah?
Okay.
I just want to make sure management knows who made the decision here.
Sarah?
Here's Sarah.
Sarah?
123 Yemen Road.
What's the real address?
Was it?
P.O.
Box.
143-189
Irving, Texas.
3900 Teleport Boulevard.
Teleport Boulevard?
I don't even believe that.
That can't be a real address.
Where?
Oh, my gosh.
It is, apparently.
Boulevard, Irving, Texas.
Yeah, 75039.
75039.
I want you to know
if there are puppets that show up at some place and they're left outside outside in a box in this heat you their blood will be on your hands
so what i'm looking for now are you going to make them any way you want but i'm looking for puppets that look like each presidential candidate so we can reenact the fox news debate in puppets okay
so we need them by what the end of next week right isn't it thursday
uh it is next Wednesday night.
Next Wednesday night.
Yeah.
You better hurry.
You better hurry.
So get your puppet making materials.
Hopefully, you just have lots of puppets hanging around after all the candidates and you just kind of ship them out.
And I don't think.
Maybe just people will just have them.
And I don't think that maybe that we need a.
I mean, do we need a Mike Pence puppet?
He's on the stage.
He made it.
By the way.
That was the, he's the most recent one to make it.
So who are, who, who is on the stage?
I believe seven of them have made it.
Oh, my God.
Now, Trump, we do not expect to actually, at this point, do not expect to.
We need a Trump puppet.
That should be easy.
Well, that one I'm sure exists.
You just make a sock with crazy hair.
How dare you?
His hair is the most
luxurious hair there has ever been.
Let's see.
So it's off the top of my head.
Let's see.
It's Ramaswamy's made it.
DeSantis has made it.
Pence has made it.
Trump has made it.
Christie has made it.
Haley has made it.
Scott has made it.
Might be all of them.
Did I miss anybody off?
Anyone seem obvious on that?
Six, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
It could be eight, but it's seven or eight.
What's that?
I said DeSantis.
Yep.
Yeah.
So
those are the puppets we need.
If you happen to know a puppet maker,
you're somebody who says, I've always wanted to make presidential puppets.
Now is your chance.
This is your big moment.
Yeah, it is your big moment.
And your puppets could be famous, and I could make you famous as a puppet maker.
All you have to do is just send them to Glenn Beck Presidential Puppets,
P.O.
Box
143189
Teleport Boulevard.
I just don't think that's wasn't there a number before Teleport Boulevard?
Yeah, what was it?
That's important.
3900 Teleport Boulevard.
3,900.
This is the most complex address.
3,900 Teleport Boulevard.
It's 75039.
Send your puppets now.
And not with eggs.
This is going to be a terrible idea.
I think it's going to be great.
I think you're going to be surprised at how good the puppets are.
Oh, I bet they're going to be incredible.
Yeah,
you know how many grandmas are out there right now that have been like making quilts and everything?
They can make anything.
My grandmother could make anything out of anything.
And they're out there right now going, oh, I'll show that stew.
I'll tell you that right now.
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You know, you're blaming me here for this, and it's really Fox News that is at fault.
We wouldn't need the puppets if
Fox News News would let us use the video and the audio.
I mean, I agree with that, but you are turning a bad situation into an utter catastrophe.
How is it a catastrophe?
What is possibly going to happen?
I don't know everything that's going to happen.
This is why you take moments to think about things before announcing them.
I've had three minutes since we announced it.
Have you three full minutes?
What could possibly happen with people sending in puppets?
I don't know, Mr.
Please send me eggs in the mail.
I'm not sure.
Eggs are different than puppets.
I learned my lesson.
Oh, no.
I was young and stupid.
Really?
I was 19 years old.
I was stupid.
You were stupid.
In the past tense.
Now you're smart at asking for puppets to be mailed to you.
Yes, that's right.
You want a Mike Pence puppet mailed to you.
Yes.
And you're saying
I used to be stupid.
That's what you're saying?
Look, all I'm looking for.
Listen to me.
The reason why I asked for puppets is because I actually do have a puppet show idea.
Okay.
I'm an idea man.
And I've wanted to do this puppet show for a long time, but I don't know anybody that makes good puppets.
Don't know anybody.
I don't know anybody who's good with puppets because I'm not good with puppets.
Like utilizing the puppets, actually?
Yes.
Yes.
And maybe they're all just professionals.
Maybe you go from I have no interest to puppets to I'm a puppeteer overnight.
I don't know.
Like
porn stars.
Like you've never gotten porn, all of a sudden you're a porn star.
You're a porn star.
Once a movie, you're a porn star automatically.
Pretty much.
Pretty
like a prostitution.
I'm not a prostitute.
Oh, you just gave me money.
I am a prostitute.
Oh, wow.
It's that.
Snap your fingers.
It happens.
So what I'm looking for are puppets of the presidential candidates.
Do we need a Brett Baer and Martha McCallum puppet?
If somebody has time to do them, sure.
Because then, well, who's going to make the little desk?
A puppet desk?
You want to?
Who's going to make the little puppet desk and the puppet, you know, podiums?
I don't know.
It's a big question.
I'll take care of the puppet desk and the puppet podiums.
But you don't want your candidate without, I mean, because I'll have to just make a just a sock puppet and sew like an eye to it.
And you don't want that.
You don't want that.
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